October 3, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show wraps up the week with a hard-hitting discussion on crime, politics, media trust, and cultural battles shaping America’s future. Clay opens the hour reflecting on family, fall break, and the importance of spending time with kids before diving into a major theme: the failure of progressive policies on law and order. He highlights shocking examples, including a Manchester, England terror attack committed by a man out on bail for rape, and a Seattle mayoral debate where the current mayor admitted he has “no desire to put criminals in jail,” even after multiple offenses. Clay argues that “toxic empathy” and soft-on-crime policies in cities like Seattle, Portland, and San Francisco have fueled chaos and eroded public safety.
The conversation shifts to demographic and cultural trends, citing data that 60.5% of babies born in 2025 are in Trump-voting states, underscoring optimism and family values in conservative America versus the left’s “apocalyptic” climate narrative that discourages having children. Clay frames this as a battle of good versus evil, stressing that optimism and strong families are essential to preserving freedom.
Clay then takes aim at media hypocrisy and political dishonesty, playing clips of Rep. Madeline Dean praising Joe Biden as “terrific” after his disastrous 2024 debate performance, only to later claim Donald Trump is in “cognitive decline.” He uses this to illustrate why Gallup reports trust in media has plunged to an all-time low of 28%, urging listeners to value truth over partisan spin.
The hour also touches on global security and Middle East tensions as the second anniversary of the October 7th Hamas attack approaches, with Clay reaffirming support for Israel and criticizing Hamas for rejecting peace plans. He then pivots to cultural influence and political strategy, previewing his upcoming book Balls, which argues conservatives must engage younger generations and fight cultural battles where they happen—on college campuses, in pop culture, and beyond. Clay emphasizes that winning hearts and minds requires bold messaging and outreach, not just “preaching to the choir.”
Listener calls add perspective on Portland’s decline, the need for federal intervention, and the broader cultural decay in left-run cities. Clay closes by sharing personal stories, discussing his media bans from CNN and ESPN, and reaffirming his mission to take arguments everywhere—from radio to TV to bookstores—to shape America’s future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, welcome back in. That's the final hour of the week.
Fourteen hours up. This is our number fifteen. We'll take
some of your reactions, we'll take some of your calls.
We'll have some fun as we take you into the weekend.
Buck is in Taiwan interviewed the President of Taiwan there.
He will be back with you on Monday. I'll be
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back again on Thursday. It is fall break season for
the kids, and this is one of the great things
that they have created that did not exist when I
was in school. Everybody at spring break. Fall break was
not a thing. Now they have created fall break, and
I've got to be honest with you, traveling in October
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does not suck. So but my boys as is unfortunately
off in the case for those of you who have
kids at multiple schools, different fall breaks. So we've got
the oldest for a few days coming up, and then
we'll sorry the youngest, and then we'll have the oldest
for the next week. So I'll be out a few
days just hanging out with my family. I mentioned the
other day, I encourage all of you to do the same.
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I'm looking around and realizing my boys are growing up
really fast and I've tried to do as many different
events with them as I can, but I'm going to
have a kid in college this fall. We're going through
the college application process right now, and I want to
travel and do as many fun things with them before
they all start running off into their own lives and
becoming adults. And so we're going to be doing some
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of that. So maybe out occasionally, but we will both
Buck or I will basically be in as we always
have for I think years and years to come, and
we'll most of the time be together. But Buck, we'll
be back on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. I'll be back with
him on Thursday. And just giving you a little bit
of an idea of where we're headed, I mentioned I
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don't think I've mentioned this on the show, but this
idea of not holding criminals responsible for what they do
is not just a United States issue. It's an issue
for all of Western civilization. Don't how many of you
paid attention or have followed. We haven't really talked about
it on the program. There was a Manchester, England, terror attack.
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A couple of innocent Jewish people on the way to
their local synagogue were murdered in cold blood by a
anti Israel, anti Jewish activist, and news came out this
morning as I was doing my prep that's Manchester, England,
that the guy who killed them both was out on
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bail for a rape charge. Now, we played the cut yesterday.
I believe it was of the dad, Stephen Federico, I
believe was his name, talking about his daughter Logan and
the fact that she had been stabbed to death by
a guy who had been arrested and charged with twenty
nine different felonies prior to killing his daughter, and how
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many times did he need to be arrested in order
for him not to be out on the streets. This
idea that we have to be kinder to criminals is embedded,
unfortunately in left wing thought across the entire country. And
during this past commercial break, as we finished the hour,
I was scrolling through making sure that I'm on top
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of all the news, as we're constantly doing, and as
if you watch video, you'll see me always on the
phone making sure, hey, we've got all the facts right,
that we're on top of whatever the news may be.
And Seattle Mayor Bruce Harrell, I've sent this in to
producer Greg but he says, when a man does six
or seven crimes, we don't know his life story. Maybe
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he was hungry. Therefore I have zero desire to jail him.
This is what toxic sympathy leads to. And it's not
a coincidence that the bluest of the blue cities, places
like Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, they refuse to actually hold
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criminal elements accountable and as a result, the criminal elements
continue to reign to rule, to dominate the culture of
their cities. And this is a part of what trying
to be too empathetic leads to. Sometimes you just have
to say, now we're gonna lock bad guys up and
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throw away the key, and that shouldn't be remotely controversial.
And if you break the law, we're going to go
out and we're going to arrest you. And I talked
to start the show about Ryan Gardusky, our friend, part
of the Clay and Buck podcast network. The podcast is
continuing to explode. The network is doing fantastically well. That's
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because of all of you. Producer Ali does great work.
If you're busy and you want a distilled version of
the show for the weekend, for travel, or just because
you're doing yard work and you want something to listen to.
She is doing a great job of collating some of
the fifteen hours and synthesizing it and connecting everything there.
But I said, if you look at Ryan Gardusky's reports
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that are out there, places that are left wing are
having fewer and fewer children. He said, sixty point five
percent of the kids being born so far in America
are red states, that is states that Donald Trump won.
And he said all of the top counties for most
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kids being born on a per capita basis have been
won by Donald Trump. And that is I think a
direct result of the Democrat Party having no vision, and
to the extent that it does have a vision, it's
an apocalyptic one. It is one where the climate devours
the nation. It's one where the climate devours the world.
It's one where everything is getting worse. And it would
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be irresponsible of you, as a result, to bring life
into a world that is filled with darkness. Now, as
someone with three kids, and I know many of you
out there with kids and grandkids, the entire purpose of life,
in my opinion, is to bring light to darkness. And
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I can't think of a better way to bring light
to darkness than to raise children to be the shining
lights combating the darkness, to rise up against evil and
bring good. And I do think we are in a
profoundly good versus evil struggle for the moral soul of
the nation right now. I don't think that's hyperbolic, but
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ultimately winning requires optimism, because if you believe that the
future is despotic and authoritarian and filled with with no freedom,
that's the future you're going to create. And honestly, it's
the future being advocated for by a huge position, huge
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percentages of the Democrat Party. And a big part of
this is just I don't think that Bernie Sanders is right.
I think he's wrong on virtually every major issue. But
I respect the fact that he's out advocating for his
positions and he's actually somewhat consistent. He's wrong, but he's
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wrong and at least consistent so far as I can
tell in the positions that he adopts. I respect that
he is in some way principled, a principled man of
the left. And I think this is why. If you
guys remember in twenty sixteen in New Hampshire, when Donald
Trump was running and trying to become the nominee for
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the Republicans, and Bernie was running and trying to become
the nominee for the Democrats, and may well have become
the nominee but for the fact that Hillary rigged the
DNC in her favor. A lot of people out there
voting in the primaries were trying to decide, Hey, am
I a Bernie guy or a Trump guy? And many
people were trying to decide between the two because there
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was a principle underlying what they were speaking to in
twenty sixteen, which was America is not addressing the concerns
of huge majorities of the United States population, and I
think Bernie is addressing it in the wrong way. I
think the fight the oligarchy tour actually makes it more
likely that more people are in positions of poverty than
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would be if we embrace capitalism and allow the full
growth and flourishment of capitalism in this country to lead
us to a higher standard of living across the board. Yes,
rich people are going to be rich. Rich people have
always been rich. What matters is is the floor being lifted,
is everybody having a higher quality of life? That, to
me is what capitalism offers. But there's a consistency of
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argument at least even if I disagree with the principles
of Bernie Sanders. It's actually rare. In fact, I wanted
to play this for you, becare, because I think it
is emblematic of the deep lies that we are told
in why Frankly Gallup found this week that trust in
media has hit an all time low of twenty eight percent.
It's because of people like this. Okay, this is I
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don't even know this chick, Representative Madeline Dean. It's a
Democrat from Pennsylvania. On July eighth, twenty twenty four, after
the first presidential debate of June twenty seventh, when Joe
Biden last year, a little bit over a year ago,
when Joe Biden fell flat on his face and anyone
with a functional brain could look at this and say
that guy is not qualified to be president of the
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United States. She said on uh was it CNN? Tell
me where she was? She said Biden was well spirited
and just fine. This is Representative Madelin Dean, Democrat of Pennsylvania.
Last year, after Joe Biden fell flat on his face
and the worst debate performance of any president in any
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of our lives. This is what she went on the
air and and said, cut too.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I think you know, I traveled with the President yesterday
in Pennsylvania to a fantastic church in Mount Airy with
a service that lifted us all right out of our seats.
And the President was well spirited. He worked from a notebook.
I know, the teleprompter argument goes on. He worked nicely
from a notebook. We also were together in front of
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folks who were organizers on the campaign side and labor
where the President spoke without any notes, and he was terrific.
He was just.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Fine, terrific Joe Biden, July twenty twenty four, just fine, terrific,
well spirited, didn't need any notes, he was a teleprompter.
He was terrific. That is July twenty twenty four, Madeline,
Madeline Dean on Joe Biden. Here is Madelin Dean last
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night on CNN. She says Trump is She's sorry, she
says Trump is aging and in the grips of cognitive decline,
cut one doesn't an unwell again, what do you mean
by that?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Well, he's aging, aren't we all? I think we can
very much notice that he's a different man. Than he
was in his first term. He's slower, he's a little more.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Lethargic, he's in the midst of cognitive decline. So this
is where I say, Hey, if she had called out
Joe Biden, and she had said, hey, here's the deal,
I don't think anybody over the age of seventy should
be president of the United States, Democrat, Republican or independent.
And if she had called out Joe Biden, and then
she came back and she said, hey, Trump's aging, he's
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slowing down. He shouldn't be in office either, then she
would at least be consistent on her argument. She argued
that Joe Biden, who clearly was in the midst of
cognitive decline and was not physically capable of the United
States presidency, was terrific and doing an incredible job. And
now she is arguing that Trump is too old and
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in the midst of cognitive a client and can't do
the job. How can you trust her on anything? We
talked about that question yesterday. Who do you trust in media?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Not?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Who do you agree with? Because sometimes I probably more
oft than me, and sometimes Buck will say things on
this program and he might you might hear it and
you say I disagree completely. You guys are wrong on
that issue. Clay, you're wrong, Buck, You're wrong. So I'm
not expecting you to agree with me or him or
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any one person all the time. In fact, you shouldn't
in my opinion, because you should trust, but verify, work
through things in your own mind. Figure out does it
make sense? Wait? Is this a good argument? Bad argument?
Are there supporting facts? Be aggressive in the way that
you analyze the arguments that I make, the arguments that
Buck makes, the arguments that anybody out there who's trying
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to argue that you that they deserve your vote, that
they make. But you should trust. What I can care
about more is not whether you agree with me. I
care about whether you trust me, because we're going to
agree or disagree on a ton of things over the
course of fifteen hours a week on radio, and over
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the course of days and weeks and months and years
now together on radio. You're not gonna agree with everything
I say. Sometimes you're gonna think that I'm crazy. But
I believe over time you have come to trust me,
not to always agree with me, but to trust me.
How many people can you say about that in media?
How many people can you say about that in politics?
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People who will sometimes say the unpopular thing because it
is necessary in order to continue to stand on principle.
There's hardly any of them in politics. And so when
you hear that side by side, separated by a year.
Whatever you think about Donald Trump, the guy does rolling
press conferences all day long, basically every day, answering every
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question under the sun. You might disagree with him, but
the idea that he's not capable of being president of
the United States is on its face absurd. And if
you argued that Joe Biden was terrific, never in the
rest of your political career, in my opinion, can you
ever analyze the mental or physical state of any other
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president and be trusted to any degree at all. Because
I already know you lied to me when you told
me that Joe Biden was terrific and that he was
doing just fine as president of the United States, I
can't trust you any more for the rest of your career.
And she, unfortunately, is emblematic of many other people who
made the same arguments. All Right, this weekend, we are
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coming up on nearly the two year anniversary of October seventh,
and the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews said, what
can we do to honor those twelve hundred people who
lost their lives and the continued war that is going
on in Gaza. Hamas seems is going to reject the
peace plan. Kind of interesting how they keep claiming that
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they're being treated unfairly and they're trying to wipe them off,
and every time there's a peace plan, Hamas says, no,
we can't, we can't sign on to that, even though
it now appears the vast majority of people in Gaza
want that peace plan to be signed off on. If
you want to stand with the truth, with justice, with
the people in the Middle East who would bring peace
not war, you need to stand with Israel, and the
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Flags of Fellowship is our way of showing support for
Israel and its people. On the second anniversary of October seven,
that's today, twelve hundred Israelis lost their life. Two hundred
and fifty more we're taken hostage. There's still forty eight
hostages in captivity in Gaza. You can be a part
of the Flags of Fellowship movement by going to IFCJ
dot org. That's IFCJ dot org. One more time IFCJ
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dot org. Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and
they do a lot of it with the Sunday Hang
Join Clay and Buck as they laugh it.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Up in the Klaan Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Welcome back in play Travis Buck Sexton Show. I believe
we have the audio from this is the Seattle Mayor's
debate last night, and this was the current mayor of
Seattle talking about the fact that he does not want
to actually end up putting people in prison. This is
Bruce Harrell. I read the quotes, but I want you
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to hear them for yourself because I think they tie
in well with the discussion we've been having about Portland
and about violent crime running rampant and our tolerance of
that violent crime nationwide Cut thirty four.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
The criminal system has had a disparate impact on black
and brown communities. Let me lead with that. So when
this person's committing six or seven crimes, I didn't know
his or her story. Maybe they were abused as a child,
maybe they're hungry.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
So my.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Remedy is to find their life story to see how
we can help. First, I have no desire to put
them in jail.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I mean, this is what I'm talking about. First of all,
there's a disparate impact on violent crime arrests because black
and brown people commit way more violent crimes. So the
disparity is the rate of violence. And the fact that
this is just even allowed to occur as an argument
is patently absurd. This is why you have to go
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look at the murder rates. Okay, who commits murders, Well,
roughly that data is going to correspond to who gets
arrested for murder. Murder is the most significant crime that
can be committed in our criminal justice system. Now, if
you want to talk about disparities in crime for jaywalking, okay,
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we can have that conversation. But violent crime is where
the focus needs to be, and the only way to
make people safe is to put violent criminals behind bars.
And I don't see that as a remotely partisan perspective. Democrat, Republican, independent,
bad guys, they're overwhelmingly bad guys need to go to jail.
We don't say that the criminal justice system is systemically
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So all right, let's hit you with some positives here
on the final thirty minutes of the week. The stock
market is at an all time high, and if you
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have simply held onto your stocks and not done anything
at all, you have never had more money in the
stock market than you have right now, So congratulations on that.
Several other stories that are out there that I believe
are actually very positive. If you voted for Donald Trump,
you're having more babies. That is according to Ryan Gerdusky,
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the cracker barrel has fired. I don't think I've mentioned
this yet. The marketing agency that nearly destroyed the fifty
year old brand of the stock market there sorry of
the Cracker Barrel, and led to a huge stock market collapse.
American Eagle sold out of all of the Sydney Sweeney
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jeans and the Sydney Sweeney coat, and the stock price
has soared simply because they said, hey, let's put a
pretty girl in denim instead of an androgynoist dude with
an almost cursed dude with a penis who is pretending
to be a chick. And we are in the midst
of a lockdown that is having almost no impact, and
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many people nationwide are realizing that the Democrats stand for
absolutely nothing that is actually in any way a positive. Now,
those are all things that are stringing together. I am
asking you guys to do something for me. I mentioned
this yesterday. My book is out in exactly one month.
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It's called Balls, a ton of you went and bought
this yesterday. I'm telling you that I want this book
to be out there everywhere. I want you to give
it to your grandson. I want you to give it
to your granddaughter. I want you to give it to
your son or daughter because I think they are going
to respond favorably to many of the arguments that I make,
because I'm making them from a cultural perspective that they
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will understand. We have to win young people. This is
the great genius of Charlie Kirk going into college campuses.
This is something that I think about all the time.
I'm going to be on another college campus this weekend.
I'm going to be at Florida State. I have for
the last twenty years basically been on college campuses every
weekend for big college football games, talking to a lot
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of young people. Some of you listening to me right
now are now no longer young, because I'm now no
longer young. But when I started doing this, I was
very young, twenty five years old. Now I'm forty six.
You now have raised your own kids. Heck, I'm gonna
have a kid in college next year as well. I'm
writing this book to try to influence the next generation.
I have written books in the past, and I've told
you about this Dixie Land, Delight on Rocky Top, when
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I didn't have any money, when I had a super
negative net worth, when I had tons of law school
loans out there, when I had a big mortgage. I
have lived. When you're looking around, you're like, man, is
gonna be a tough month, It's gonna be a tough year.
I've been through it. I'm now in a spot where
I am not having to struggle financially. That's a credit
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to the fact that the market has responded very well
to the messages that I put out there, and that's
a credit to you guys listening every day and how
the last twenty years is gone. So I am donating
one hundred percent of the money that I make from
this book to charity. And I have decided that based
on some of the arguments a ton of you sent
me emails, a lot of that's going to go to
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Turning Point because I think Charlie has done tremendous work
and I want to give back to the organization that
he supported and the arguments that I'm making in this
book he helped to popularize out there going around to
college kids. We all have to lift up, we all
have to make arguments better. I want this book in
the front of bookstores. You wonder how do you change
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hearts and minds? Sometimes you have to find people when
they're not looking for you. The argument that I made
that I talked about was the older I get, the
more I see it. My grandparents, Richard K. Fox and
Ruth Fox, eight Trenton Street, Red Bank, Tennessee, just outside
a check Nuga house is still there near the Bojangles
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near the Red Bank High School. Super specific could be
any community out there in America because there's lots of
people doing what they did. My grandfather worked combustion engineering,
worked in a factory much of his life. My grandmother
was a school teacher in Georgia. She drove into Georgia
because they paid a little bit better than Tennessee. Grandfather
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played football at the University of Tennessee. Wouldn't buy gas
in the state of Georgia because there were too many
Georgia Bulldog fans and he didn't want to support him.
This is where I come from. They retired and spent
the rest of their life ministering to people in prison
and trying to get them to become Christians. They didn't
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go and preach to the choir. There's nothing wrong with
preaching to the choir. But the reason that phrase exists
is it's easy to convince people who already agree with
you that they should agree with you. That's not how
you win, and there's a role for that. I'm not
disparaging the importance of preaching to the choir. You can
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make the diehards more die hard. You can deliver for
the diehards, as many of you out there that are
part of congregations have seen ministers, preachers, priests do for generations.
It's not how you win. I think about winning all
the time, way too much. The only way you win
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is by convincing people that you've got the best arguments,
and that means I was talking about earlier. That means
you have to find zoron Mondami is doing it. Guys.
He bought a freaking ad during the Bachelor and stands
there with a rose. Every one of his arguments is wrong,
but he's going to where people are and convincing him
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that he has the answer for them, and a lot
of people are responding. We have to take the fight
to people who don't even understand that we're in a battle.
Yet we have to win hearts and minds. That's how
you convert people. And Donald Trump I think the math is.
I write about this a lot in the book. Got
sixty four million votes roughly the first time he ran
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for president in twenty sixteen. He just got over seventy
seven million in twenty twenty four. How'd that happen? Some
of you God bless you Trump people sixteen twenty twenty four.
That's great, But that means at a minimum thirteen million
people who weren't willing to vote Trump in twenty sixteen
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showed up and voted Trump in twenty twenty four. Probably
more than that, because the reality is a decent number
of the sixty four million that voted Trump in twenty sixteen,
they weren't with us by twenty twenty four. So probably
twenty million new voters showed up and somehow pushed that button,
wrote down that name, pulled that lever for Donald Trump.
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How did that happen? People of the rightness of the
arguments going to people who are not already in the
congregation and saying, hey, it's the right choice for you.
How do you get a majority of Hispanic men? How
do you get twenty one percent of Black men? How
does Asian support skyrocket? You know, the only group Kamala
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Harris did better with in twenty twenty four than she
did twenty twenty White women. This book, I'd like to
think a lot of young white women are going to
read and they're going to say, you know what, these
are good arguments. I'm asking you to help me get
this book out to as many people as can possibly
see it. And I'm donating all the proceeds. Arguments I
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make here I think are really important. I'm not trying
to make money off this. In fact, I'm going to
donate all the money that I make to a variety
of worthy charitable causes. Right now. Books a Million they
heard me talking about this yesterday. They said, hey, we're
going to give you a thirty percent discount if you
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If you've got somebody in your life that maybe you
think could be influenced. Maybe they're a reader, they're not
a video watcher, Maybe they're a thinker. And they're open
to persuasion. I'm asking you to get this book in
their hands, and I want people to see this if
they're walking through an airport. That's why the cover has
two big balls on it, because a lot of people
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do judge a book by its cover, and the first
thing you have to do is sometimes punch them in
the mouth and make them think, wait a minute, is
he really saying that. Yeah, Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying.
The Republican Party has balls, Democrats don't. It's a metaphor
somewhat figuratively accurate if you've watched Tim Wallas walk around
with spirit fingers. But I think I can cut through
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the noise and convince a lot of people of the
importance of being engaged. And we all have to do
more in the way of what happened to Charlie, and
so to do as much as it can possibly take.
And I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is.
Certainly I've been willing to put my time down. I
write the whole book. I don't have ghostwriters sitting there
in front of my laptop by myself after I finish the show.
Every day grinding trying to make arguments that I think matter.
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So you go to Books a Million, use code Travis
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If you just want to go to Amazon, I would
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publisher called me yesterday. He was like, this is incredible.
Thousands of people went and bought the book yesterday after
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asking you favor to me, but I'm donating all the
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proceeds for me, but for more importantly the arguments in
this book. Please go get it. The reason why I'm
saying it now a month before publication is I hope
people go out to bookstores and get it in a month.
This is when they decide where to put your book.
Do you get to be on the front tables. Do
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you get to be in Costco? Do you get to
be in Walmart? Do you get to go to where
people are get the book in front of them and
have them think, oh, what is this? Let me pick
this up and see whether or not I'm going to
buy in, and so that is my request for you
would mean a ton to me personally. One month out,
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on the radio, you drove me absolutely nuts. But I've
come to find out that you.
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And I are a lot more alike than we are not.
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And I absolutely love that you're such a family man
and that you talk about your kids and the things
that they're doing and how involved you are with them.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Keep up the good work.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Well, thanks for the look. There is no difference between
what I say on the mic and what I will
see if I ever see you in person. Some people
are great performers, some people are incredible actors. That is
not me, I sit down in front of a mic,
and same thing, when I sit down and write and
say exactly what I think. That's rare because most people
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tiptoe up to their opinions. They're afraid of what other
people might think. They're sensitive about the responses to what
they say. That's normal. I don't have those genes for
whatever reason. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. But I
like to think, and certainly my radio career is reflected.
The more you listen, the more people start to think, hey,
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you know, I kind of agree with a lot of
what this guy says, or at least somewhat entertained Moses,
Moses from Western Montana. He's going to lead us to
the promised Lamb. What you got for us?
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I've got a son, two sons, one daughter, and five
grandchildren that live in the Greater Portland area, and I
am telling you what martial law needs to get imposed.
My last two visits there, it gets worse and worse.
It's the smell, it's the scudge, it's the homeless, and
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the cops do nothing.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I think what he said is actually so important there
the left is not beautiful, and I don't mean that
necessarily physically beautiful. I mean the things that they embrace.
Look at what they do to their body, look at
the lack of beauty and buildings. There's something rotten at
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the core of the left that manifests itself physically in
the structures, in the bodies. I do think that it
then also certainly grades the streets. They're dirty, they're disgusting,
they're filthy. It's a physical manifestation. I think of a
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hole in the soul that many in the left don't
even realize that they have. And again, I think this
is where you come back to arguments. You just hope
that you can convince people these are not good choices
being made for you or your families. And I do
think over time we're winning this argument. But it's going
to be a long battle, and it's not going to
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end when Donald Trump leaves off. It's not going to
end in twenty twenty six or twenty twenty eight. We
need a generation of healing, I think in this country,
and it's going to take a lot of us fighting
for a long time to come. When we come back,
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Welcome Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Also, by
the way, if you're watching on video, I am now
dressed in a nice shirt and a nice jacket because
I'm immediately going to be on Martha McCollum show. As
soon as this program ends. I try to do and
generally do do Fox News most days, and that's because
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I'm trying to win arguments everywhere, trying to be wherever
the audience is. And I'm impressed by the way. I
mentioned the number of you who bought the book yesterday.
After I said it's one month out, the publisher said,
tons of you are buying the audiobook. That counts from
my perspective as reading. I read the whole thing, so
I'm going to give you credit for reading it too.
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Trust me, when you sit in a studio and you
have to read an entire book, you have lots of
time to be sitting there thinking about yourself, particularly me,
who mispronounces so many words. As you guys well know,
I want to play one cut speaking of the difficulty
of winning arguments. Remember I'm banned on CNN. I'm also
banned on ESPN. And if you guys ever doubted it,
(35:38):
my friend Paul Finbaum, we had a big interview that
made a lot of news this week. I meant to
play this earlier, he said, Yeah. ESPN came in and
told me I can no longer have you on the
air because they're unhappy with some of the things that
you say.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Listen, going to ESPN cost us the best guests that
we had, right, which is Claiy Trapping.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
And people at ESPEND don't always love it. I've never
admitted that, but you know, I think it would be
it would be disingenuous. For one time, I literally called
you and said, by the way, I know you may
think we don't like you, we can't have you on anymore.
I was banned. I'm still banned at CNN.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Maybe one day.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
ESPN or this side they like me, So I mean,
this is where we are. If people don't like the
arguments that they may, they don't argue against you. They
try and keep you from being able to make those
arguments to the public. So I try to go to
audiences wherever they will have me, whether it's books, whether
it's television, whether it's radio. And I am so thankful
that we have had you for the last four plus
(36:37):
years and many more years to come. And I'm very
thankful to iHeart and Julie Talbot, who is the best
boss that I have ever had. All Right, you will
literally see me on television in five minutes on Fox News,
I'm dressed nicely. I'm stepping over to the TV side
of the equation buck. We'll have you back on Monday.
Have fantastic weekends. I'll see some of you at Miami,
Florida State
Oh, welcome back in. That's the final hour of the week.
Fourteen hours up. This is our number fifteen. We'll take
some of your reactions, we'll take some of your calls.
We'll have some fun as we take you into the weekend.
Buck is in Taiwan interviewed the President of Taiwan there.
He will be back with you on Monday. I'll be
(00:22):
back again on Thursday. It is fall break season for
the kids, and this is one of the great things
that they have created that did not exist when I
was in school. Everybody at spring break. Fall break was
not a thing. Now they have created fall break, and
I've got to be honest with you, traveling in October
(00:42):
does not suck. So but my boys as is unfortunately
off in the case for those of you who have
kids at multiple schools, different fall breaks. So we've got
the oldest for a few days coming up, and then
we'll sorry the youngest, and then we'll have the oldest
for the next week. So I'll be out a few
days just hanging out with my family. I mentioned the
other day, I encourage all of you to do the same.
(01:03):
I'm looking around and realizing my boys are growing up
really fast and I've tried to do as many different
events with them as I can, but I'm going to
have a kid in college this fall. We're going through
the college application process right now, and I want to
travel and do as many fun things with them before
they all start running off into their own lives and
becoming adults. And so we're going to be doing some
(01:24):
of that. So maybe out occasionally, but we will both
Buck or I will basically be in as we always
have for I think years and years to come, and
we'll most of the time be together. But Buck, we'll
be back on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. I'll be back with
him on Thursday. And just giving you a little bit
of an idea of where we're headed, I mentioned I
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don't think I've mentioned this on the show, but this
idea of not holding criminals responsible for what they do
is not just a United States issue. It's an issue
for all of Western civilization. Don't how many of you
paid attention or have followed. We haven't really talked about
it on the program. There was a Manchester, England, terror attack.
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A couple of innocent Jewish people on the way to
their local synagogue were murdered in cold blood by a
anti Israel, anti Jewish activist, and news came out this
morning as I was doing my prep that's Manchester, England,
that the guy who killed them both was out on
(02:34):
bail for a rape charge. Now, we played the cut yesterday.
I believe it was of the dad, Stephen Federico, I
believe was his name, talking about his daughter Logan and
the fact that she had been stabbed to death by
a guy who had been arrested and charged with twenty
nine different felonies prior to killing his daughter, and how
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many times did he need to be arrested in order
for him not to be out on the streets. This
idea that we have to be kinder to criminals is embedded,
unfortunately in left wing thought across the entire country. And
during this past commercial break, as we finished the hour,
I was scrolling through making sure that I'm on top
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of all the news, as we're constantly doing, and as
if you watch video, you'll see me always on the
phone making sure, hey, we've got all the facts right,
that we're on top of whatever the news may be.
And Seattle Mayor Bruce Harrell, I've sent this in to
producer Greg but he says, when a man does six
or seven crimes, we don't know his life story. Maybe
(03:43):
he was hungry. Therefore I have zero desire to jail him.
This is what toxic sympathy leads to. And it's not
a coincidence that the bluest of the blue cities, places
like Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, they refuse to actually hold
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criminal elements accountable and as a result, the criminal elements
continue to reign to rule, to dominate the culture of
their cities. And this is a part of what trying
to be too empathetic leads to. Sometimes you just have
to say, now we're gonna lock bad guys up and
(04:26):
throw away the key, and that shouldn't be remotely controversial.
And if you break the law, we're going to go
out and we're going to arrest you. And I talked
to start the show about Ryan Gardusky, our friend, part
of the Clay and Buck podcast network. The podcast is
continuing to explode. The network is doing fantastically well. That's
(04:48):
because of all of you. Producer Ali does great work.
If you're busy and you want a distilled version of
the show for the weekend, for travel, or just because
you're doing yard work and you want something to listen to.
She is doing a great job of collating some of
the fifteen hours and synthesizing it and connecting everything there.
But I said, if you look at Ryan Gardusky's reports
(05:11):
that are out there, places that are left wing are
having fewer and fewer children. He said, sixty point five
percent of the kids being born so far in America
are red states, that is states that Donald Trump won.
And he said all of the top counties for most
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kids being born on a per capita basis have been
won by Donald Trump. And that is I think a
direct result of the Democrat Party having no vision, and
to the extent that it does have a vision, it's
an apocalyptic one. It is one where the climate devours
the nation. It's one where the climate devours the world.
It's one where everything is getting worse. And it would
(05:54):
be irresponsible of you, as a result, to bring life
into a world that is filled with darkness. Now, as
someone with three kids, and I know many of you
out there with kids and grandkids, the entire purpose of life,
in my opinion, is to bring light to darkness. And
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I can't think of a better way to bring light
to darkness than to raise children to be the shining
lights combating the darkness, to rise up against evil and
bring good. And I do think we are in a
profoundly good versus evil struggle for the moral soul of
the nation right now. I don't think that's hyperbolic, but
(06:36):
ultimately winning requires optimism, because if you believe that the
future is despotic and authoritarian and filled with with no freedom,
that's the future you're going to create. And honestly, it's
the future being advocated for by a huge position, huge
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percentages of the Democrat Party. And a big part of
this is just I don't think that Bernie Sanders is right.
I think he's wrong on virtually every major issue. But
I respect the fact that he's out advocating for his
positions and he's actually somewhat consistent. He's wrong, but he's
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wrong and at least consistent so far as I can
tell in the positions that he adopts. I respect that
he is in some way principled, a principled man of
the left. And I think this is why. If you
guys remember in twenty sixteen in New Hampshire, when Donald
Trump was running and trying to become the nominee for
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the Republicans, and Bernie was running and trying to become
the nominee for the Democrats, and may well have become
the nominee but for the fact that Hillary rigged the
DNC in her favor. A lot of people out there
voting in the primaries were trying to decide, Hey, am
I a Bernie guy or a Trump guy? And many
people were trying to decide between the two because there
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was a principle underlying what they were speaking to in
twenty sixteen, which was America is not addressing the concerns
of huge majorities of the United States population, and I
think Bernie is addressing it in the wrong way. I
think the fight the oligarchy tour actually makes it more
likely that more people are in positions of poverty than
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would be if we embrace capitalism and allow the full
growth and flourishment of capitalism in this country to lead
us to a higher standard of living across the board. Yes,
rich people are going to be rich. Rich people have
always been rich. What matters is is the floor being lifted,
is everybody having a higher quality of life? That, to
me is what capitalism offers. But there's a consistency of
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argument at least even if I disagree with the principles
of Bernie Sanders. It's actually rare. In fact, I wanted
to play this for you, becare, because I think it
is emblematic of the deep lies that we are told
in why Frankly Gallup found this week that trust in
media has hit an all time low of twenty eight percent.
It's because of people like this. Okay, this is I
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don't even know this chick, Representative Madeline Dean. It's a
Democrat from Pennsylvania. On July eighth, twenty twenty four, after
the first presidential debate of June twenty seventh, when Joe
Biden last year, a little bit over a year ago,
when Joe Biden fell flat on his face and anyone
with a functional brain could look at this and say
that guy is not qualified to be president of the
(09:35):
United States. She said on uh was it CNN? Tell
me where she was? She said Biden was well spirited
and just fine. This is Representative Madelin Dean, Democrat of Pennsylvania.
Last year, after Joe Biden fell flat on his face
and the worst debate performance of any president in any
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of our lives. This is what she went on the
air and and said, cut too.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I think you know, I traveled with the President yesterday
in Pennsylvania to a fantastic church in Mount Airy with
a service that lifted us all right out of our seats.
And the President was well spirited. He worked from a notebook.
I know, the teleprompter argument goes on. He worked nicely
from a notebook. We also were together in front of
(10:22):
folks who were organizers on the campaign side and labor
where the President spoke without any notes, and he was terrific.
He was just.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Fine, terrific Joe Biden, July twenty twenty four, just fine, terrific,
well spirited, didn't need any notes, he was a teleprompter.
He was terrific. That is July twenty twenty four, Madeline,
Madeline Dean on Joe Biden. Here is Madelin Dean last
(10:54):
night on CNN. She says Trump is She's sorry, she
says Trump is aging and in the grips of cognitive decline,
cut one doesn't an unwell again, what do you mean
by that?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Well, he's aging, aren't we all? I think we can
very much notice that he's a different man. Than he
was in his first term. He's slower, he's a little more.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Lethargic, he's in the midst of cognitive decline. So this
is where I say, Hey, if she had called out
Joe Biden, and she had said, hey, here's the deal,
I don't think anybody over the age of seventy should
be president of the United States, Democrat, Republican or independent.
And if she had called out Joe Biden, and then
she came back and she said, hey, Trump's aging, he's
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slowing down. He shouldn't be in office either, then she
would at least be consistent on her argument. She argued
that Joe Biden, who clearly was in the midst of
cognitive decline and was not physically capable of the United
States presidency, was terrific and doing an incredible job. And
now she is arguing that Trump is too old and
(11:59):
in the midst of cognitive a client and can't do
the job. How can you trust her on anything? We
talked about that question yesterday. Who do you trust in media?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Not?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Who do you agree with? Because sometimes I probably more
oft than me, and sometimes Buck will say things on
this program and he might you might hear it and
you say I disagree completely. You guys are wrong on
that issue. Clay, you're wrong, Buck, You're wrong. So I'm
not expecting you to agree with me or him or
(12:29):
any one person all the time. In fact, you shouldn't
in my opinion, because you should trust, but verify, work
through things in your own mind. Figure out does it
make sense? Wait? Is this a good argument? Bad argument?
Are there supporting facts? Be aggressive in the way that
you analyze the arguments that I make, the arguments that
Buck makes, the arguments that anybody out there who's trying
(12:52):
to argue that you that they deserve your vote, that
they make. But you should trust. What I can care
about more is not whether you agree with me. I
care about whether you trust me, because we're going to
agree or disagree on a ton of things over the
course of fifteen hours a week on radio, and over
(13:13):
the course of days and weeks and months and years
now together on radio. You're not gonna agree with everything
I say. Sometimes you're gonna think that I'm crazy. But
I believe over time you have come to trust me,
not to always agree with me, but to trust me.
How many people can you say about that in media?
How many people can you say about that in politics?
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People who will sometimes say the unpopular thing because it
is necessary in order to continue to stand on principle.
There's hardly any of them in politics. And so when
you hear that side by side, separated by a year.
Whatever you think about Donald Trump, the guy does rolling
press conferences all day long, basically every day, answering every
(13:58):
question under the sun. You might disagree with him, but
the idea that he's not capable of being president of
the United States is on its face absurd. And if
you argued that Joe Biden was terrific, never in the
rest of your political career, in my opinion, can you
ever analyze the mental or physical state of any other
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president and be trusted to any degree at all. Because
I already know you lied to me when you told
me that Joe Biden was terrific and that he was
doing just fine as president of the United States, I
can't trust you any more for the rest of your career.
And she, unfortunately, is emblematic of many other people who
made the same arguments. All Right, this weekend, we are
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coming up on nearly the two year anniversary of October seventh,
and the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews said, what
can we do to honor those twelve hundred people who
lost their lives and the continued war that is going
on in Gaza. Hamas seems is going to reject the
peace plan. Kind of interesting how they keep claiming that
(15:02):
they're being treated unfairly and they're trying to wipe them off,
and every time there's a peace plan, Hamas says, no,
we can't, we can't sign on to that, even though
it now appears the vast majority of people in Gaza
want that peace plan to be signed off on. If
you want to stand with the truth, with justice, with
the people in the Middle East who would bring peace
not war, you need to stand with Israel, and the
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Flags of Fellowship is our way of showing support for
Israel and its people. On the second anniversary of October seven,
that's today, twelve hundred Israelis lost their life. Two hundred
and fifty more we're taken hostage. There's still forty eight
hostages in captivity in Gaza. You can be a part
of the Flags of Fellowship movement by going to IFCJ
dot org. That's IFCJ dot org. One more time IFCJ
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dot org. Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and
they do a lot of it with the Sunday Hang
Join Clay and Buck as they laugh it.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Up in the Klaan Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Welcome back in play Travis Buck Sexton Show. I believe
we have the audio from this is the Seattle Mayor's
debate last night, and this was the current mayor of
Seattle talking about the fact that he does not want
to actually end up putting people in prison. This is
Bruce Harrell. I read the quotes, but I want you
(16:24):
to hear them for yourself because I think they tie
in well with the discussion we've been having about Portland
and about violent crime running rampant and our tolerance of
that violent crime nationwide Cut thirty four.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
The criminal system has had a disparate impact on black
and brown communities. Let me lead with that. So when
this person's committing six or seven crimes, I didn't know
his or her story. Maybe they were abused as a child,
maybe they're hungry.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
So my.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Remedy is to find their life story to see how
we can help. First, I have no desire to put
them in jail.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I mean, this is what I'm talking about. First of all,
there's a disparate impact on violent crime arrests because black
and brown people commit way more violent crimes. So the
disparity is the rate of violence. And the fact that
this is just even allowed to occur as an argument
is patently absurd. This is why you have to go
(17:22):
look at the murder rates. Okay, who commits murders, Well,
roughly that data is going to correspond to who gets
arrested for murder. Murder is the most significant crime that
can be committed in our criminal justice system. Now, if
you want to talk about disparities in crime for jaywalking, okay,
(17:43):
we can have that conversation. But violent crime is where
the focus needs to be, and the only way to
make people safe is to put violent criminals behind bars.
And I don't see that as a remotely partisan perspective. Democrat, Republican, independent,
bad guys, they're overwhelmingly bad guys need to go to jail.
We don't say that the criminal justice system is systemically
(18:05):
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So all right, let's hit you with some positives here
on the final thirty minutes of the week. The stock
market is at an all time high, and if you
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have simply held onto your stocks and not done anything
at all, you have never had more money in the
stock market than you have right now, So congratulations on that.
Several other stories that are out there that I believe
are actually very positive. If you voted for Donald Trump,
you're having more babies. That is according to Ryan Gerdusky,
(19:32):
the cracker barrel has fired. I don't think I've mentioned
this yet. The marketing agency that nearly destroyed the fifty
year old brand of the stock market there sorry of
the Cracker Barrel, and led to a huge stock market collapse.
American Eagle sold out of all of the Sydney Sweeney
(19:54):
jeans and the Sydney Sweeney coat, and the stock price
has soared simply because they said, hey, let's put a
pretty girl in denim instead of an androgynoist dude with
an almost cursed dude with a penis who is pretending
to be a chick. And we are in the midst
of a lockdown that is having almost no impact, and
(20:15):
many people nationwide are realizing that the Democrats stand for
absolutely nothing that is actually in any way a positive. Now,
those are all things that are stringing together. I am
asking you guys to do something for me. I mentioned
this yesterday. My book is out in exactly one month.
(20:35):
It's called Balls, a ton of you went and bought
this yesterday. I'm telling you that I want this book
to be out there everywhere. I want you to give
it to your grandson. I want you to give it
to your granddaughter. I want you to give it to
your son or daughter because I think they are going
to respond favorably to many of the arguments that I make,
because I'm making them from a cultural perspective that they
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will understand. We have to win young people. This is
the great genius of Charlie Kirk going into college campuses.
This is something that I think about all the time.
I'm going to be on another college campus this weekend.
I'm going to be at Florida State. I have for
the last twenty years basically been on college campuses every
weekend for big college football games, talking to a lot
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of young people. Some of you listening to me right
now are now no longer young, because I'm now no
longer young. But when I started doing this, I was
very young, twenty five years old. Now I'm forty six.
You now have raised your own kids. Heck, I'm gonna
have a kid in college next year as well. I'm
writing this book to try to influence the next generation.
I have written books in the past, and I've told
you about this Dixie Land, Delight on Rocky Top, when
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I didn't have any money, when I had a super
negative net worth, when I had tons of law school
loans out there, when I had a big mortgage. I
have lived. When you're looking around, you're like, man, is
gonna be a tough month, It's gonna be a tough year.
I've been through it. I'm now in a spot where
I am not having to struggle financially. That's a credit
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to the fact that the market has responded very well
to the messages that I put out there, and that's
a credit to you guys listening every day and how
the last twenty years is gone. So I am donating
one hundred percent of the money that I make from
this book to charity. And I have decided that based
on some of the arguments a ton of you sent
me emails, a lot of that's going to go to
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Turning Point because I think Charlie has done tremendous work
and I want to give back to the organization that
he supported and the arguments that I'm making in this
book he helped to popularize out there going around to
college kids. We all have to lift up, we all
have to make arguments better. I want this book in
the front of bookstores. You wonder how do you change
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hearts and minds? Sometimes you have to find people when
they're not looking for you. The argument that I made
that I talked about was the older I get, the
more I see it. My grandparents, Richard K. Fox and
Ruth Fox, eight Trenton Street, Red Bank, Tennessee, just outside
a check Nuga house is still there near the Bojangles
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near the Red Bank High School. Super specific could be
any community out there in America because there's lots of
people doing what they did. My grandfather worked combustion engineering,
worked in a factory much of his life. My grandmother
was a school teacher in Georgia. She drove into Georgia
because they paid a little bit better than Tennessee. Grandfather
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played football at the University of Tennessee. Wouldn't buy gas
in the state of Georgia because there were too many
Georgia Bulldog fans and he didn't want to support him.
This is where I come from. They retired and spent
the rest of their life ministering to people in prison
and trying to get them to become Christians. They didn't
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go and preach to the choir. There's nothing wrong with
preaching to the choir. But the reason that phrase exists
is it's easy to convince people who already agree with
you that they should agree with you. That's not how
you win, and there's a role for that. I'm not
disparaging the importance of preaching to the choir. You can
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make the diehards more die hard. You can deliver for
the diehards, as many of you out there that are
part of congregations have seen ministers, preachers, priests do for generations.
It's not how you win. I think about winning all
the time, way too much. The only way you win
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is by convincing people that you've got the best arguments,
and that means I was talking about earlier. That means
you have to find zoron Mondami is doing it. Guys.
He bought a freaking ad during the Bachelor and stands
there with a rose. Every one of his arguments is wrong,
but he's going to where people are and convincing him
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that he has the answer for them, and a lot
of people are responding. We have to take the fight
to people who don't even understand that we're in a battle.
Yet we have to win hearts and minds. That's how
you convert people. And Donald Trump I think the math is.
I write about this a lot in the book. Got
sixty four million votes roughly the first time he ran
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for president in twenty sixteen. He just got over seventy
seven million in twenty twenty four. How'd that happen? Some
of you God bless you Trump people sixteen twenty twenty four.
That's great, But that means at a minimum thirteen million
people who weren't willing to vote Trump in twenty sixteen
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showed up and voted Trump in twenty twenty four. Probably
more than that, because the reality is a decent number
of the sixty four million that voted Trump in twenty sixteen,
they weren't with us by twenty twenty four. So probably
twenty million new voters showed up and somehow pushed that button,
wrote down that name, pulled that lever for Donald Trump.
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How did that happen? People of the rightness of the
arguments going to people who are not already in the
congregation and saying, hey, it's the right choice for you.
How do you get a majority of Hispanic men? How
do you get twenty one percent of Black men? How
does Asian support skyrocket? You know, the only group Kamala
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Harris did better with in twenty twenty four than she
did twenty twenty White women. This book, I'd like to
think a lot of young white women are going to
read and they're going to say, you know what, these
are good arguments. I'm asking you to help me get
this book out to as many people as can possibly
see it. And I'm donating all the proceeds. Arguments I
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make here I think are really important. I'm not trying
to make money off this. In fact, I'm going to
donate all the money that I make to a variety
of worthy charitable causes. Right now. Books a Million they
heard me talking about this yesterday. They said, hey, we're
going to give you a thirty percent discount if you
go on the Books a Million website and you use
the code Travis, it's nine dollars off. The thing's twenty bucks.
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If you've got somebody in your life that maybe you
think could be influenced. Maybe they're a reader, they're not
a video watcher, Maybe they're a thinker. And they're open
to persuasion. I'm asking you to get this book in
their hands, and I want people to see this if
they're walking through an airport. That's why the cover has
two big balls on it, because a lot of people
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do judge a book by its cover, and the first
thing you have to do is sometimes punch them in
the mouth and make them think, wait a minute, is
he really saying that. Yeah, Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying.
The Republican Party has balls, Democrats don't. It's a metaphor
somewhat figuratively accurate if you've watched Tim Wallas walk around
with spirit fingers. But I think I can cut through
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the noise and convince a lot of people of the
importance of being engaged. And we all have to do
more in the way of what happened to Charlie, and
so to do as much as it can possibly take.
And I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is.
Certainly I've been willing to put my time down. I
write the whole book. I don't have ghostwriters sitting there
in front of my laptop by myself after I finish the show.
Every day grinding trying to make arguments that I think matter.
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So you go to Books a Million, use code Travis
my last name, nine dollars off Books a million website.
If you just want to go to Amazon, I would
love you to go there, two tons of you. My
publisher called me yesterday. He was like, this is incredible.
Thousands of people went and bought the book yesterday after
you asked them to do on the show. So I'm
asking you favor to me, but I'm donating all the
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proceeds for me, but for more importantly the arguments in
this book. Please go get it. The reason why I'm
saying it now a month before publication is I hope
people go out to bookstores and get it in a month.
This is when they decide where to put your book.
Do you get to be on the front tables. Do
you get to be in the airport when you're walking
down the aisle and there's a Hudson Bookstores there? Do
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you get to be in Costco? Do you get to
be in Walmart? Do you get to go to where
people are get the book in front of them and
have them think, oh, what is this? Let me pick
this up and see whether or not I'm going to
buy in, and so that is my request for you
would mean a ton to me personally. One month out,
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show up on your doorstep on the Tuesday. If you
read it, passing on to somebody else. Word of mouth
is valuable. But please, I'm asking you go buy a
copy nine dollars off right now at Books a Million.
You can get them in Amazon free shipping if you're
part of Amazon Prime. As I know a lot of
you are. Mark in Salt Lake City listening on one
oh five point nine k n R s GG. What
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you got for.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
Us, mister Travis. This is Mark in Salt Lake. Just
wanted to tell you. When I first started hearing you
on the radio, you drove me absolutely nuts. But I've
come to find out that you.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
And I are a lot more alike than we are not.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
And I absolutely love that you're such a family man
and that you talk about your kids and the things
that they're doing and how involved you are with them.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Keep up the good work.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Well, thanks for the look. There is no difference between
what I say on the mic and what I will
see if I ever see you in person. Some people
are great performers, some people are incredible actors. That is
not me, I sit down in front of a mic,
and same thing, when I sit down and write and
say exactly what I think. That's rare because most people
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tiptoe up to their opinions. They're afraid of what other
people might think. They're sensitive about the responses to what
they say. That's normal. I don't have those genes for
whatever reason. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. But I
like to think, and certainly my radio career is reflected.
The more you listen, the more people start to think, hey,
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you know, I kind of agree with a lot of
what this guy says, or at least somewhat entertained Moses,
Moses from Western Montana. He's going to lead us to
the promised Lamb. What you got for us?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
I've got a son, two sons, one daughter, and five
grandchildren that live in the Greater Portland area, and I
am telling you what martial law needs to get imposed.
My last two visits there, it gets worse and worse.
It's the smell, it's the scudge, it's the homeless, and
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the cops do nothing.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I think what he said is actually so important there
the left is not beautiful, and I don't mean that
necessarily physically beautiful. I mean the things that they embrace.
Look at what they do to their body, look at
the lack of beauty and buildings. There's something rotten at
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the core of the left that manifests itself physically in
the structures, in the bodies. I do think that it
then also certainly grades the streets. They're dirty, they're disgusting,
they're filthy. It's a physical manifestation. I think of a
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hole in the soul that many in the left don't
even realize that they have. And again, I think this
is where you come back to arguments. You just hope
that you can convince people these are not good choices
being made for you or your families. And I do
think over time we're winning this argument. But it's going
to be a long battle, and it's not going to
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end when Donald Trump leaves off. It's not going to
end in twenty twenty six or twenty twenty eight. We
need a generation of healing, I think in this country,
and it's going to take a lot of us fighting
for a long time to come. When we come back,
we'll take some of your calls and close up shop
on the week. But I want to tell you fun.
I'm going to be at the Florida State Miami game
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in Tallahassee this weekend. Looking forward to being there. Are
going to be down on the Florida Gulf Coast, God's Country,
and it's a great game on the road against Florida State.
Had an awesome time in dol Campbell Stadium. Seminole fans
were fantastic. I know, we got a lot of Miami
people that are listening right now. Probably some of you
are going to be at that game. But if you're
not gonna be at that game, you may be a
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big college football fan. You may just want to have
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Welcome Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Also, by
the way, if you're watching on video, I am now
dressed in a nice shirt and a nice jacket because
I'm immediately going to be on Martha McCollum show. As
soon as this program ends. I try to do and
generally do do Fox News most days, and that's because
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I'm trying to win arguments everywhere, trying to be wherever
the audience is. And I'm impressed by the way. I
mentioned the number of you who bought the book yesterday.
After I said it's one month out, the publisher said,
tons of you are buying the audiobook. That counts from
my perspective as reading. I read the whole thing, so
I'm going to give you credit for reading it too.
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Trust me, when you sit in a studio and you
have to read an entire book, you have lots of
time to be sitting there thinking about yourself, particularly me,
who mispronounces so many words. As you guys well know,
I want to play one cut speaking of the difficulty
of winning arguments. Remember I'm banned on CNN. I'm also
banned on ESPN. And if you guys ever doubted it,
(35:38):
my friend Paul Finbaum, we had a big interview that
made a lot of news this week. I meant to
play this earlier, he said, Yeah. ESPN came in and
told me I can no longer have you on the
air because they're unhappy with some of the things that
you say.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Listen, going to ESPN cost us the best guests that
we had, right, which is Claiy Trapping.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
And people at ESPEND don't always love it. I've never
admitted that, but you know, I think it would be
it would be disingenuous. For one time, I literally called
you and said, by the way, I know you may
think we don't like you, we can't have you on anymore.
I was banned. I'm still banned at CNN.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Maybe one day.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
ESPN or this side they like me, So I mean,
this is where we are. If people don't like the
arguments that they may, they don't argue against you. They
try and keep you from being able to make those
arguments to the public. So I try to go to
audiences wherever they will have me, whether it's books, whether
it's television, whether it's radio. And I am so thankful
that we have had you for the last four plus
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years and many more years to come. And I'm very
thankful to iHeart and Julie Talbot, who is the best
boss that I have ever had. All Right, you will
literally see me on television in five minutes on Fox News,
I'm dressed nicely. I'm stepping over to the TV side
of the equation buck. We'll have you back on Monday.
Have fantastic weekends. I'll see some of you at Miami,
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