October 3, 2025 • 61 mins
MABA: Make American Babies Again
Clay highlights the booming stock market, with the Dow, Nasdaq, and S&P 500 hitting record highs under President Trump’s economic policies, contrasting this success with prior predictions of economic collapse. The discussion shifts to crime reduction efforts in Memphis, where the Trump administration has partnered with local leaders to combat one of the nation’s highest murder rates—a story largely ignored by mainstream media. Clay also previews an upcoming interview with journalist Nick Sorter, who was arrested in Portland while covering Antifa protests outside an ICE facility, sparking a federal investigation.
A major theme of the hour is cultural and demographic trends, including a striking statistic: 60.5% of babies born in 2025 so far are in Trump-voting states. Clay argues this reflects optimism and family values in conservative America, contrasting it with what he calls the Democratic Party’s “dark, nihilistic” messaging that discourages having children. He warns that this worldview fuels political violence and long-term electoral challenges for Democrats as population growth accelerates in red states.
Mamdani's Rose is Wilted
The conversation then pivots to the economy, where Clay underscores strong GDP growth at 3.8% and low inflation under Trump, while acknowledging lingering frustration from Biden-era price hikes. He critiques socialist economic proposals, spotlighting New York City mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani’s plan for city-run grocery stores, calling it “Cuban-style madness.” Clay dissects Mamdani’s savvy cultural strategy, including a viral Bachelor-themed campaign ad that resonates with young voters, warning conservatives not to underestimate the power of pop culture in politics.
Nick Sortor Calls In
an exclusive interview with journalist Nick Sorter, who recounts his shocking arrest in Portland during violent Antifa-led protests outside an ICE facility. Sorter describes being assaulted while documenting the chaos, saving a burning American flag, and then being charged with disorderly conduct despite Antifa’s ongoing lawlessness. He reveals that Attorney General Pam Bondi personally called him, announcing a Department of Justice civil rights investigation into the Portland Police Bureau. Clay and Nick expose how Portland’s leadership and police culture have allowed five years of unchecked riots, fueling public demand for federal intervention and National Guard deployment.
The conversation escalates as White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt addresses Sorter’s arrest live from the podium, condemning Portland’s failure to protect journalists and pledging to review federal aid to states that “allow anarchy.” Clay underscores how this crisis reflects a broader collapse of law and order in Democrat-run cities, warning that Portland’s inability to restore safety has even cost it opportunities like a Major League Baseball franchise—an example of how urban decay impacts economic growth and corporate investment.
Make Michigan Competitive Again
Michigan politics with State Senator Aric Nesbitt, a Hillsdale College graduate and GOP candidate for governor. Nesbitt outlines why Michigan is a critical battleground for 2026 and 2028, citing Trump’s recent victory and growing Republican momentum. He blasts Governor Gretchen Whitmer’s COVID lockdowns, sharing a deeply personal story of being barred from comforting his wife during a miscarriage due to pandemic restrictions. Nesbitt vows to reverse Whitmer’s policies, restore parental rights, and fight progressive agendas like men competing in women’s sports and pronoun enforcement in schools. He frames Michigan as the “front line” in the battle to protect families, small businesses, and traditional values, pledging to make Michigan competitive again for jobs and education.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton show Buck
is still in Taiwan. He may be flying back. That's
a long trip. I'm not sure exactly where he is,
but I know he interviewed the president of Taiwan and
he will be playing that for you on Monday. I'm
sure telling you much about what he has learned in
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his overseas trip. We have got a loaded show with you.
There's a ton of different breaking news stories that we
are going to be tracking during the course of today's show.
Of course, the shutdown is still ongoing. The stock market
does not care. Some positivity to start off the day
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on Friday, record highs across the board in the stock
market again. So if you are out there and you
just bought s and P five hundred index funds and
you've said, I don't know what the politicians are going
to do, but I'm just going to invest in American companies, Congratulations,
you have got more money than you ever have had
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in the history of your four oh one K. The
stock market has continued to set new highs over the
past year. And remember it was only back in April
that all of the experts told you that the economy
was collapsing because of the decisions that President Trump had made. Instead,
go ahead, learn it they were wrong. The Dow to
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a record high today as we are all talking, the
Nasdaq to a record high, and the S and P
five hundred all two record highs, along with many of
the stocks out there, including Nearly although it's come back
down a little bit Tesla. Remember when Mike Walls, sorry
Tim Walls, whatever the heck his name is, the governor
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of Minnesota, held up his phone and said, boy, does
anybody else get really excited when they see that Elon
Musk company stock is going down? Yeah, good move. I
hope you sold all your stock, you moron. Because Tesla's
continued to set new highs as we are rolling through
the early days of fall. So that is going on. Memphis.
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I love this. I do think that if this were
a city where people paid more attention to from a
media perspective, the fact that the Trump administration has gone
into Memphis, the fact that many of the leaders of
Memphis have said, hey, we really need to help. Crime
is out of control. You heard some of our callers
yesterday from the Memphis area. One of the things you learn,
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I know Rush talked about the drive by media all
the time. If it happens in New York City or Washington,
d C. Or LA, there are tons of media there
with microscopes basically just leaning right over and looking at
every little minute detail. If it happens in the middle
part of the country. And I say this as a
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guy who's lived in the middle part of the country
pretty much my entire life, oftentimes people don't pay attention
to it. And so the fact that we actually they
have a partnership going on in Memphis designed to drive
down the murder rate in a city that, per capita
has one of the highest murder rates in the country,
is actually an incredibly successful and positive story. Of course,
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not getting very much attention at all, there is to
a large degree as we enter I think it's day
three of the shutdown, there is also sort of a
recognition setting in. I think that Democrats have no idea
what they want to do, and they have no real message,
and there are a bunch of things I want to
talk about with that. By the way, also, ice protests
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outside of a facility in Portland have spiraled out of control.
There was a reporter arrested who is getting a lot
of attention. They are now investigating somehow. The Portland police
can't investigate anyone. But this guy who saved a would
be burning American flag and was there reporting on it.
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He is going to join us. Nick Sorter is his name.
He's going to join us at ten oh five Pacific,
that is one oh five on the East coast. He
is out in Portland, So we're going to talk about
what he is seeing on the ground. I know we
have a lot of you out in the Pacific Northwest refugees.
In many ways, you feel like from the insanity out
there that listen to this program. So we will be
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talking with Nick about that. But I wanted to start
with this idea because I saw our friend Ryan Gerdusky
share a data point that some of you may have
also seen out there, and he said, hey, the only
place that's having babies is Trump voting areas. And that's
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a little bit of an exaggeration. But here is Gurdusky's headline,
and I was reading it this morning as I was
getting ready. Among the counties with the highest fertility rate
so far in twenty twenty five, all of them voted
for Donald Trump. Sixty point five percent of the babies
born in twenty twenty five so far were in states
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that voted for Trump in the last election, and he
dives into the data. And I was thinking about this
because my assistant Katie had her baby girl, and we
went to go visit Annie, who is one day old,
and I got to hold a one day old baby,
and I forgot I had three one day old babies
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at one point in my household, but I just forgot
how small they are. And her in laws were there,
and she's doing great, and this is her second baby,
and everybody's very excited. And if you were fortunate enough
to have kids or grandkids that have recently joined your family,
you know that feeling of just optimism and excitement. And
we talked about this on the program because Buck's got
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a six month old and it's hard not to be
optimistic about the future and also committed to building a
better future when you have a baby in your arms.
And I was thinking about this in the context of
the government shutdown and putting all this together, or as
I was doing my reading and getting ready for the
show today, and I was thinking about, what is the
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message that democrats are selling such that the most ardent
of all Democrat supporters have decided that they should not
have children, that kids are too much of a drain
on the climate, that we are headed for some form
of apocalyptic future, and if you add children to the mix,
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that somehow you are making things worse, and you are
throwing them basically into the proverbial boiling pot, and there's
no hope. And I was thinking about that in the
context of the shutdown, and I think one of the
real challenges that the Democrat Party has is not that
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its messaging is being unheard. It's that its message is
being heard, and it's so profoundly dark that even the
people who buy into the message are making decisions that
are worse than if they never listen to the message
at all. Well, this is a big picture analysis, but
I think it all kind of ties together. If you're
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not willing to have children, you are effectively saying, I
don't believe in the future. I don't buy into the
idea that humanity is going to lead us to a
better place. And I think it ties in with one
of the questions that we asked that was so important
in the aftermath of Trump's big win in November, that
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so many of you and us all contributed to. It
was what is the Democrat Party going to do with this?
They had two options. They could look in the mirror
and they could say the nation heard our message and
they overwhelmingly rejected it. Or they could argue, as Kamala
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Harris is now doing in her book A Hundred in
seven Days, which Buck is reading and I cannot wait
to hear his review of. Or they could argue, as
Kamala Harris did, we just didn't have enough time. Our
message didn't get out there, it wasn't able to be
heard by the American public. And Democrats are still focused
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on number two. They're focused on the message not being
heard loud enough. But I think that's profoundly wrong. I
think the message of what they are selling is being
heard and rejected, and it's being rejected by huge swaths
of the population white, Black, Asian, Hispanic, reasonable, common sense,
family oriented voters out there across the nation of a
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wide variety of backgrounds. Remember all fifty states moved towards
Trump in twenty twenty four. But it's not just that
their message is being rejected by the American voter. It's
that the people that are hearing their message and acting
on it, are actually making worst decisions for their lives.
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Think about that for a moment, because I don't know
that we've ever really lived in an era where something
like that could happen. Democrats that are the most committed,
the most left wing in the country, they are hearing
what their party is arguing, and they are saying things
are so bad now. America is so awful that I
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don't want to bring children into this country. They are
hearing what Democrats are arguing, and they are saying, we
have to kill President Trump because he is hitler. They
are hearing what Democrats are arguing, and they are saying,
we have to go kill Charlie Kirk. We can't argue
against his message. His words are violence that we have
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to answer with violence of our own. They're burning down churches,
They're going into schools, and they are killing innocent children
at Christian schools in Minneapolis, in Nashville. They're trying to
show up and kill Supreme Court justices because they're concerned
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about what their rulings are going to do on the
Roe v. Wade issue. You stitch all this together, and
the nation thankfully is rejecting the arguments being made by
the Democrat Party, but the shutdown is being led by
the far left of this party, the part of the
party that is just angry and just demands that they're
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be conflict and confrontation. And yet that element of the
party is toxic and sick, and it's now infecting not
only their political beliefs, but it's impacting in a very
negative way the larger society around them, such that if
you voted for Kamala Harris, you don't want to have kids.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Long range, this is a very self defeating proposition, because,
as Ryan Gardusky is saying twenty twenty five, if sixty
point five percent of kids are being born in Trump
States and if Trump counties are overwhelmingly seeing population growth, well,
this is a lot of babies being born for freedom.
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And the overall structural problems that confront the Democrat Party
actually are profoundly more challenging going forward, because theoretically, those
families are going to raise their kids to be proud
of America and to support freedom and to support the
overall American way of life. But as they fall further behind,
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and as their worldview becomes darker and more nihilistic. I
think we have to all prepare ourselves for way more violence.
And I don't think all of this has been put
together necessarily, and a lot of people have thought about it.
But the next census is going to make base make
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it impossible for Democrats to win a presidential election. No
one is talking about this, but the only way Kamala
could have won in twenty twenty four was by winning Pennsylvania, Michigan,
and Wisconsin, and she came about two hundred and twenty
thousand votes ish away from winning those states. If she had,
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she would have won the electoral college two seventy to
two sixty eight. Twenty twenty eight. We still have the
existing census that's broken and didn't get things correct twenty
thirty two. That pathway has gone forever because way more
electoral votes are shifting to the red states. And even
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if the Republican candidate in twenty thirty two lost the
so called blue Wall of the Midwest, which I'm skeptical
would happen. But even if that happened, that wouldn't be
a pathway for the Democrat Party to win. Sooner or later,
they have to come down to the South, and they
have to start winning Southern states where I live, and
I just don't think that's going to happen. From a
cultural perspective, I think those states where I live are
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all moving redder in a rapid fashion. And so this
awful worldview that they are selling that leads right now
to the government being shut down, and they don't really
have any argument for why it needs to be shut down.
They're just angry. This awful worldview that does not create
babies like the baby I just went to go see,
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does not create optimism, does not create American ingenuity and
an embrace of the human spirit, and just basic optimism.
It's leading the Democrat Party to a very dark place
where unfortunately, I think we have to prepare ourselves for
more Charlie Kirks. Because it's not that the Democrat message
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isn't being heard. It's being heard and rejected by saying
people all across the United States, which is why all
fifty states move towards Trump. But it's particularly being heard
by the toxic base of the Democrat Party, and they
are acting out in an angry fashion because the dark,
dystopian vision that is being shared by the Democrat Party
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is now motivating direct acts of political violence, and just
outrageous attacks on the idea of government even being open
itself when there's nothing that they're even arguing for. It's
just a anger, a lash out, the petulant fit of
a child. That's where we are, and I think it's
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important to put all these things together and recognize where
that's going to lead us. So that's what I was
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The economy growing currently at three point eight percent rate,
inflation still yet to rear its ugly head. I'm just
telling you the Trump economy is starting to take flights,
and I hope that all of you are aware of that.
I understand that the lingering impact here's the biggest challenge.
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People say, Okay, what what is the biggest challenge right
now in the economy as you see it. I think it's,
frankly just that the lingering impact of how awful Biden's
economic picture was is hard to get past because a
lot of you still feel and I feel it and
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when I buy things too, that things just all cost
too much. And it's going to take years for the
rapid increase in prices that occurred during Biden's era to
actually normalize itself out. The reality is we need probably
five years of two percent two and a half percent
inflation in order for us to kind of normalize and
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get used to the rapid increase in prices that occurred
during the Biden administration, and other than oil and gas,
which the prices have come back down, and that's a
more fluctuating commodity price. The reality is, once you have
embedded inflation, prices don't come back down. They don't ever
go negative. So the reason I think there is a
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disconnect between what is rapidly becoming a very strong economy
and what still feels frustrating every time you buy something
is I just I don't think most people out there
really understood how bad Biden managed the economy. And I
wasn't alive back then, or at least was so young,
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I certainly had no impressions. My bet is those of
you who lived through the rapid inflation of the nineteen seventies,
pricing normalcy didn't really return to you until the second
term of Ronald Reagan, where finally the rapid price increases
that occurred during Jimmy Carter's tenure came back down to
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a form of normalcy. Now, I mentioned off the start
of the program about the fact that Democrat message was
being heard and they recognize that it's hard to stand
for left wing policies because those left wing policies actually
end up costing everyone. New York City is going to
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bear the cost of this because there is an articulate
and charismatic and young and attractive socialistic candidate that is
saying things that people want to hear without understanding any
of the economic realities that underpin this. Remember Zorn Mandami said,
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the way to deal with higher grocery prices is for
the City of New York to be in charge of groceries.
Let me just tell you something. There has never been
a successful city or state eight sponsored grocery in the
history of mankind that I'm aware of. This is what
they do in Cuba. So the idea that suddenly things
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are going to get cheaper if a much more inefficient
method of bringing produce and bringing product to the city
is going to be put in place is madness. And
many of you out there understand this because you understand
basic business. And the reality is there are very few
businesses on the planet that have a lower profit margin
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than grocery stores. We're talking about grocery stores making one
two percent. They sell a lot of product, but it's
a volume based business with very tiny margins. So the
idea that you're going to be able to somehow cut
into the profit margins of grocery stores and make way
more money is frankly bonkers. It's insane. It's a form
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of just absolute madness, which unfortunately has overtaken, as I
laid out, much of the left in this country. But
Mam Donnie is an eloquent advocate for awful policies. And
I saw this and I said I should share this
because sometimes you guys complain. I don't know why you
talk about culture so much. Tell me more about how
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the flat tax intersects with the larger geopolitical ramifications of
a bearing street energy pipeline and how that's going to Okay,
you can talk super specific policy. Super specific policy doesn't
win elections. I'm sorry, it doesn't. You have to tap
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into the culture. And I saw this and I said,
this is how Mamdanni's doing it. The Bachelor is back
on air. Okay, The Bachelor. You may not watch. I
think it's the Golden Bachelor. Now, this is an old
guy meeting with older women, and it's wildly popular in
pop culture and zoron Mam Donnie made a New York
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City ad that aired during The Bachelor this week, and
this is what you would have heard. And so for
those of you who have ever watched The Bachelor, the
concept of the show is at the end of the show,
a host a bachelorette two is a version of this,
gives the contestants a rose if they get to continue
to compete to win the true love of the Bachelor
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or the Bachelorette. Mam Donnie speaks the language of young,
disaffected voters. It's important you go where they are. You
don't ask them to come where you are. And this
is the ad. He ran. I think it's ridiculous. I
think it's absurd. Guess what it works. Listen.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
You deserve better.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
You deserve to be able to raise your family here,
to be safe.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
You need to travel where you need to for you
have costs and worry.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
You deserve someone who works as hard as you do.
He thinks about you every second of the day. That's
the kind of mayor I promised to be New York.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Will you accept this rose? Okay? I get it. A
lot of you are rolling your eyes. Producer Ali was
so mad when I sent her this. She said, Oh,
it works. The reason he's gonna win is he's glib.
He connects on the culture. He's good on social media.
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He's handsome on Instagram. He's good at cutting through the
noise because oh, he watches The Bachelor too. He's giving
us a rose. How bad of a guy could he be.
He's gonna make my rent lower, and he's gonna build
grocery stores and I'm gonna be able to get all
of my hair care products and all of my face
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creams so much cheaper. He's so great. I love so
running m Dodey. It works. It works. You have to
go where people are and you have to confront them.
These girls saw that ad and they're like, oh, he's
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where we are. He's watching The Bachelor too. He's gonna
make my I don't know, I don't even know what
people buy. Faith. He's gonna make me. I buy books,
and I buy like Kirkland products at Costco. So I'm
not very good at thinking about how everything's gonna be cheaper.
He's gonna make my uh ug boots that's popular with
the girls, right, He's gonna make my ug boots so
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much cheaper. Oh my god, He's so amazing, like like
like you think this is crazy, I'm telling you, this
bachelor ad is echoing all through all through this young
voting public, which overwhelmingly thinks socialism works.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
See.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
One of the challenges of capitalism is it so good
that people start to take for granted how good it is.
This is true of anything in life that is really great.
At some point in time, you forget how important it
is to have solid foundational values in place. Because solid
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foundational values work so well that you can start to think, hey,
what if we just didn't care about this anymore. The
ultimate flaw of capitalism is capitalism works so well people
start thinking that other forms of government might work too.
All these kids that are mostly having their rent paid
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for by mom and dad living in New York City
because they can't afford their own rent. They have no
economic basis in reality whatsoever, But Mom Donnie looks like
the kind of person that they think should be their politician.
This is how Kamala's entire career happened. Kamala Harris was
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smart enough to realize, hey, you know, the average left
wing California voter wants someone who looks like me to
be in a position of prominence in this state, and
she wrote that almost all the way to the White House.
I'm not sure what Kamala Harris has ever done well
in her entire life, but she looks like the kind
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of person that makes rich white women feel better about
themselves in California, and she can win an election based
on it. Mom, Donnie looks like the kind of person
that rich white liberals want to represent them in New
York City. And then he shows up at the places
that they care about, and he's conversant in the pop
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culture language. And you may think it's ridiculous that this
thirty four year old socialist Ugandan out of no where
is suddenly showing up with a rose telling New York
City that he should be their mayor. But according to
the gambling markets right now, he's at ninety percent likelihood
to win. He's really good at marketing himself. He's got
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a genius for selling the product, and the product is him,
and it's awful and everything that he supports is wrong.
But there is no alternative for him in New York
City right now. And I got to give him credit
because again, a lot of you are going to say, oh,
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this is cringe. Oh, this is ridiculous. You're not the target.
You're not the target. Everybody who watches The Bachelor. I
bet the Bachelor in New York City. I bet the
people watching The Bachelor in New York City vote Democrat
ninety ten. It's an overwhelmingly young female audience. They see
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Mom Donnie with that rose, it's melt. Oh, look at
that handsome guy. This is the kind of guy I
would like today. Oh, he'll take care of the city,
just like he would take care of me. And they
go vote for him. And then meanwhile, a bunch of
people who don't understand how to compete in the modern
cultural wars are just sitting around like, I don't know
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who cares about the Bachelor. Yeah, we did just elect
the most successful Republican twenty first century political candidate with
a landslide election, who is famous to a large extent
because he was on a reality television show. You can
say a lot of things about Donald Trump. People get
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mad sometimes when he comments on Taylor Swift getting engaged,
or when he comments on what the NFL kickoff rules are.
You go to people where they are and that's how
you win. And Mom Donnie showing up on The freaking Bachelor.
I don't know that any politician has ever done an
ad like this before. And it's going to work. And
New York City is in trouble because Curtis Sliwa and
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Andrew Cuomo, neither one of whom has a chance at
all of winning, are both gonna end up in a
what's it like when you're It reminds me of like
a fight where you're both wrestling and you're sinking underground.
You're both just gonna drown, and the guy's just sitting
in the boat, not even having to get in a
fight with you. You're both wrestling with each other as
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you slowly sink underwater to see who can do the
best job to come in second place. And the guy
who's gonna win is just sitting up there in the
boat with a rose between his teeth, just kicking his
feet up and enjoying the boat ride. That's kind of
the metaphorical sense of what I have for where New
York City is headed. And again I give credit to
mom Donnie, not because he's right on any issue, but because,
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Speaker 1 (31:15):
Welcome again, Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are rolling
through the Friday edition of the program. We'll take a
bunch of your calls and continue to react to everything
going on in the world at large. But right now
we head up to the Pacific northwest to Portland, Oregon,
and we are joined by Nick Sorder, who was arrested
(31:36):
last night in the midst of all the chaos outside
the ice facility in Portland, where President Trump has said
we need to send in reinforcement, and where the leaders
of the state of Oregon have claimed there is no
need whatsoever for that to occur. So Nick, I just
want to give you the floor here. I want you
to tell everyone what happened to you. Just walk me
(31:58):
through and walk us through through your experiences last night.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I appreciate you guys having me here, and it's still
surreal thinking about this, about how this all went down
last night. You know, I had said a couple of
days ago on X that this city is so messed
up that if I were to defend myself, I would
be arrested while my assailant would get away, And that's
(32:26):
exactly what happened here. I have every right. These people
don't understand this. I have every right as a journalist
to be on the sidewalk and record what's going on
in public, no matter how much they wind, scream and
cry about it. I have every right to do so.
And these Antifa thugs, they'd been able to get away
(32:46):
with physical violence for so long now that they feel
empowered to harass you, to hit you, to break your equipment,
and sometimes even mace you. The amount of times I
had mace thrown in my safe this week has been crazy.
Like I'm surprised I still have visions and nothing has
ever done about any of that. Ever, it's when I
(33:09):
tried to defend myself after ten people gang up on
me and throw me in a flower pit, that that's
when the police decide, okay, we're going to actually do
something for once. So all these theories that we've had
about how Antifa has pretty much infiltrated the Portland Police Department,
or that Antifa has been by the balls, it's just
(33:30):
it was confirmed true last night. I mean, this goes
to show that the conspiracy theories quote unquote were true.
And you know, it's not going to intimidate me. It's
not going to stop me. If anything, I'm going to
be more aggressive with it because now we've got the
DJ involved, now we've got you know, national headlines about
(33:51):
about this. The six hours in jail was really worth
it for what I think is going to come out
of Portland, Oregon.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Now, okay, let me then a couple of things that
happened last night. You witnessed them trying to burn a
American flag last night, and you stepped in to save
the flag, and that certainly antagonized them as well.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Correct, absolutely, Yeah, that's when they started following me around.
I was talking to to somebody on the other side
of the something walked. I saw MO set the flag
on fire. So I walked over them and rammed it.
I yanked it out of his flance and took the fire,
and ietually took the flag. I still had the feeling,
and because I immediately went and uh, you know, I
(34:37):
this about ten I heard it for about ten minutes
and then I brought it to my car and and
put it in my car, and you know, I don't
feel bad about that. I'm sorry if somebody got their
feelings hurt that I, uh put the flames.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Out of the American flag.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
I'm not gonna apologize for that, and I would do
it again in the heart beat. So I knew that
I was I was risking, you know, getting right buttons
by these people by doing that, But at the time,
I just I didn't care because it's what needed to
be done. I'm so sick of watching these people just
you desecrate our flag and crap on our country, especially
(35:15):
when these same people are you know, they're waiting for
him flags while burning the American flag.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I'm set up with it. I weren't most Americans.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Uh, what were you charged with? Have you officially been
charged with anything? I know you were arrested and you
were held for several hours. What charges are you facing?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, so it took them an hour to figure out
what to charge me with. They had me in the
back of the patrol car sitting on the side of
the road while they had because they basically were like, okay, yeah,
we won't we want to take him into custody, but
we don't know what for yet, So we'll figure it
out as we go. So they arrested me, put me
in the back of the car, they started driving around.
They pulled over randomly and and got out of the
(35:55):
car so they could talk to the lieutenant without me
hearing it. And and that's when they just they were
going to charge me with disorderly conduct. And naturally I
was like, okay, disorderly conduct, Like okay, what did I do?
Tell me what I did? And I'm like, oh, well,
we don't know that information. We just know that you're
being charged with disorderly conduct. So it took until after
(36:16):
I was out of jail to see what the official
narrative was. Because the disorderly conduct can mean disorderly conduct
too in Oregon can mean either blocking the road, blocking
a sidewalk, or fighting. And I'm like, okay, well, the
Antifa Paris are doing the first two, you know, constantly
(36:37):
on a rolling basis. They're always blocking it. It was always
blocking the sidewalk, and every other minute they're fighting each other.
None of them are ever charged with this crime, just me.
Is that a coincidence? Or was I targeted?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You were called already, I believe by the Attorney General
of the United States, Pam Bondi, What did she tell you?
What was that conversation like that?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
That was pretty incredible phone call to get this morning
from the Attorney General Bondi on her cell phone calling
me and telling me that she was immediately ordering har
Meat Dilan, the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, to
launch a full investigation into the Portland Police Bureau to
(37:20):
because like this is this isn't a one off situation.
This happens frequently to It's just the difference is this
time I have a platform, right, how many other victims
of this police department are there? I would argue that
half of Portland are victims of this police department from
their lack of action, from their support for Antifa. And
(37:41):
so that was really good. And if you know anything
about har Meat Dylan, I'm telling you that that part
excited me the most. Putting har Meat Dylan on this
Portland isn't ready for what's coming.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
I'm just saying, why do you think this has been
allowed to occur for so long? Because Portland is a
great city. I don't know where your homes, but it
is a jewel of America. If you just consider natural beauty.
It had been and long had been a thriving place.
But it was safe, right Like it might be left leaning,
(38:12):
but it wasn't a violent place. There were not very
many murders. The city was safe. Now that downtown is
a mess, and I know we've got a ton of
people listening to us right now on eleven ninety k
e X in the Portland area. This all kind of
went to hell starting with the George Floyd protests and
it has continued for for a long time. Uh, left
(38:35):
wing politicians will say antifa is not a thing. What
would you say to those people? What would you say
to anyone out there who's saying, oh, Antifa, that's not
really anything to be concerned about.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, well that's that's say Joe Biden era talking point, right,
because you know they they don't want to they at
the end of the day, these these far left Democrats
are really I mean, hell, the leaders of the Democrat
Party at this point, Johan Omar and Jasmine Krockett and AOC,
they're never going to condemn these people, right, they actually
(39:08):
support the message that they're doing. So the saying that
antifa is just an idea, I mean, come down here
and talk to any of them on the street. It's
an organized group. They have subgroups too, like the one
here is Rose City Antifa. It's an organized group, an
organized effort. So I mean, it's just blatantly false to
(39:30):
say that it's just an idea and not an organization.
I don't even know, but I mean, that's that's pretty
much the modern day Democrat Party at this point. You
just blatantly lie to your face and let me ask
you this, that you don't think anything else of it?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
And yeah, no, I think that's totally true. We're talking
to Nick Sorder, who has done incredible sort of on
the ground journalism surrounding these protests in Portland. What do
you think of the police force in Portland? Because I'm
gonna be honest with you. I meet officers all over
the country and they say, hey, you're you know, we
(40:04):
listen to the show. We agree with you on everything.
When you got arrested, did anybody say, hey, man, I
agree with you. I got to stay undercover a little bit.
Do you think the Portland police as a group have
been basically taken over by left wing activism and that's
why they're not arresting or do you think the police
force recognizes how much a bs this is, but they're
(40:28):
being led from above and not allowed to actually make
the community safe. What's going on in your mind with
the culture of the Portland police as it pertains to
these protests.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
I'm going to be totally honest with you, and I'm
not going to have any disrespect for the officers that
arrested me yesterday. But they had a very tough time
figuring out how to write a police report. It's like
they just never do it anymore. And that's probably true.
Speaker 6 (40:54):
They are.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I was when I was there for that six hours,
three peeps came into the jail that the jail houses.
It's the only one in Portland and all of Portland,
and three people came in a major American city overnight.
They're not arresting anybody. They're not arresting anybody. And in
my there was an officer that from a neighboring jurisdiction
(41:18):
that was there with me yesterday. He was he had
left right before this entire thing went down, that he
was providing security for me, and he went up to
some of the officers there in Portland and said, you
guys have no shame. You should resign in disgrace. You
should not be following these BS orders, orders that you
know are BS because they're told to stand down constantly.
(41:42):
You have these quot unquote liaison officers that stand there.
Bill Malluchin posted a video would be being assaulted by
these anti foot thugs the other day and you can
see in the background these officers just standing there, watching
doing nothing. Because what do you think following orders?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
What do you think would happened.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
From a page and just follow orders like that and watch,
you know, people get beaten the street like I'm sorry,
I'm not going to follow that order.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
If you have President Trump, the White House you mentioned
you talked with Pam Bondy, what should they do to
take control of Portland streets because it sounds like the
Governor's not going to allow it. It sounds like the
Mayor's not going to allow it. But I know there's
a lot of people out there that are listening to
us right now in Portland that are just saying, much
(42:26):
like with what happened with Seattle, oh hey, we've got
to have some sanity come in. What should the White
House do? What should the National Guard do? Nobody's getting arrested.
What should happen?
Speaker 2 (42:37):
She Caroline Levitt is talking about it right now. Actually,
she is going off on Portland about how they're being
ravaged that she's speaking about the arrest and such. Honestly,
I think that the we if you talk to residents here,
this is what they want to see. They actually support
(42:57):
the idea of the federal government coming in and taking
more control here. They're just going to say it publicly
because they'll be you know, harassed and assaulted for it.
But okay, right, well, sorry, I described by Caroline kind.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Of a bit kind of a big deal to have
the White House or talking about your arrest while you're
being interviewed on the biggest radio show in the country.
So we certainly understand that.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Sorry I don't mean to pause there, but uh but
but yeah, but I live at Washington, d C. Right
where they act like all these people are uh, not
wanting or not liking the federal intervention that happened Theerry,
and that's just not true. Everyday residents love it. They're
excited by it, they feel safe, they can walk around again.
(43:44):
The people of Portland want the same thing, they just
can't say publicly or else they'll be beating the street too, Nick.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
While we're talking to you, Mary Margaret Olihan, I'm sure
you're talking about this, but for there seeing this for yourself,
because I can hear Caroline the background, Mary Margaret Olihan
at the Daily Wire said, Caroline Levitt says Nick Storder's
arrest should be very should is unacceptable and everyone should
be concerned that you were arrested rather than the violent
(44:10):
rioters in Portland. And so we will let you continue
to watch that just we'll be in touch. Are you
going to be out in the streets again in Portland?
What's your plan now? And do you feel like you're
going to be safe?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Oh yeah, I've got the I've got a lot of
patriots coming today, so it'll be it'll it'll be good,
It'll be safe. It's a lot of people flying in
just to support me today.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
So well, we appreciate everything you're doing. We know it's
a crazy time. We appreciate you making the time to
come on with us. Stay safe, and thank you to
everybody out there that can be and will be patriots.
If people are listening in Portland and they want to
support you, what should they do? What could you tell
them to do hon street.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Just uh just support me on x That's that's that's
what that's that's what we need the most is just
uh uh support independent journalists, not even just me, just
people that are there a lot of well if you
like Katie Davis Corn with the post millennial that just
got assaulted with a freaking hype on the streets to
Portland the other day, and of course nothing is done
(45:11):
about it, tweeted, do anything, but like support invented journalists.
That's what needs to happen because we're the ones that
are actually embedded boots on the ground, you know, risking
our own safety and we even freedom doing this stuff.
And you know, the outboting and support has been incredible
from so many people from around the world. And I
appreciate you giving me the platform today.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Thank you for coming on with us. And stay safe.
That is Nick sorder. Encourage you guys. You can go
follow and we'll share some of his videos and some
of the stories. But again, he was arrested last night
at the Antifa attacked event, basically the protest that Antifa
is putting on surrounding Ice and being talked about right
now in the White House as President Trump prepares, I
(45:53):
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you. While we were just talking with Nick Sorter
about his arrest, the White House was talking about Nick
Sorder's arrest. Here's our friend Caroline Levitt at the White
House podium discussing that just moments ago, cut thirty one.
Speaker 7 (47:44):
Just last night we saw an extremely troubling incident where
conservative journalist Nick Sorder was captured on video being taken
into custody by the Portland police after he was ambushed
by Antifa and was defending himself from these assaults. But
instead of arresting these violent mob members nights after nights
after night who are ravaging this community, the police arrested
(48:06):
a journalist who is there trying to document the chaos.
And everyone in this room should be extremely concerned about that.
The Department of Justice spoke with that journalist this morning
and they will be launching a full investigation into his arrest.
This incident is part of a troubling trend in Portland
where left wing mobs believe they get to decide who
can visit and live in their city. It is not
their city, it is the American people's city. And President
(48:28):
Trump is going to restore that.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
I just spoke with the.
Speaker 7 (48:30):
President about this, and he has directed his team here
at the White House to begin reviewing aid that can
potentially be cut in Portland. We will not fund states
that allow anarchy.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Well, so Portland is in the FO stage of FAFO
and we will see what ends up happening. We want
Nick to stay safe, and so I know many of
you in the Portland area and beyond, but certainly in Portland,
appreciate the reporting that he's doing. But we got to
arrest all these all these kooks, all these crazy people.
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He is a state senator in Michigan. Running for the
governor's office. Up there, we talked about how Michigan is
probably the most important state. I honestly mean this if
(50:28):
you look at twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight
and the amount of serious offices that are up for
grabs as there will be no incumbent governors. The awful
Gretchen Whitmer will hop on her broomstick and right off
into the night sky. Eric nesbit with us. Now, what
do you see on the ground. We talked about this
(50:48):
yesterday as well. What do you see on the ground
in Michigan? And are you optimistic that Michigan can become
much more of a red state in the years ahead.
Speaker 6 (51:00):
Thanks for having me on, and I'll tell you one thing.
Michigan Republicans are excited after last year President Trump winning
the state again and drawing out a record setting number
of people as we continue to grow the party here
in Michigan, because we've seen what it means under Governor
Whitmer and the Democrats here in Michigan that it's tougher
(51:21):
to make it in Michigan. It's tougher to do business
in Michigan. Three out of four fourth graders can't read
at grade level. So it's tougher for our kids to
learn in Michigan, and our job creators, it's tough for them.
With the highest energy costs, highest insurance costs in the Midwest,
it's just tougher to expand and invest. And with Governor
Whitmer term limited out, with Gary Peters leaving and fleeing
(51:44):
the US Senate, with three competitive congressional seats, with the
state House, with President Trump's leadership, last year, we won
back the State House in Michigan and we ended a
Democrat trifecta. I feel positive on the ground and motivated
as we continue to grow our campaign and activate folks
(52:05):
on the ground to turn out. I was in Monominee
last Saturday, which is a small community I think about
twenty thousand people. Actually, Tudor Dixon was up there as
one of the speakers. Her and I were the keynote
speakers there, and there was a sold out crowd, over
one hundred and thirty people in this small county, and
they already had sixty tickets for Lincoln they sold for
next years. There's a lot of energy that's around there,
(52:27):
and we're continuing to see that around the state.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Talking to Eric Nesbitt, I'm curious when you went to Hillsdale,
and we love Hillsdale College here, doctor Larry Arn has
built a powerhouse. What was that experience like for you?
And I know you have young kids, as do I.
You've got three. As you start to look forward in
the larger educational environment, how impactful do you think Hillsdale
(52:53):
is becoming not only in the state of Michigan where
you are, and obviously as your alma mater has a
lot of connection to it cultural force across the nation.
Speaker 6 (53:01):
Now, yeah, doctor Harn has been a great mentor at
me over the years. He's continues to show leadership and
light and darkness. You know where there's a lot of
darkness and higher education and you saw that with Charlie
Kirk going into college campuses. He was at Michigan State
University this spring. I have a plenty of staff that
(53:23):
used to work for Turning Point or Bountier on campuses.
But you see how the left wing tries to shut
down debate and dissent and try to indoctrinate our kids
in public universities and private colleges. And God blessed Charlie
for taking it on and they tried to cancel them
and silence them. An Unfortunately, a few weeks ago an
(53:44):
assassin's bullet took them out. But I'm like a lot
of these schools, Hillsdale was one that Charlie Kirk actually
believed in, and he knew that they taught the basic
foundations of American government, of why our rights actually come
(54:05):
from a creator, our God, not from government, where Democrats
and the left wing progressives believe our rights come from government.
And we saw that during the COVID lockdowns. It was
disgusting and wrong the way Governor Whitmer shut down our schools,
shut down our businesses. And this is part of the reason.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
Why I'm running.
Speaker 6 (54:25):
My wife and I we went to the OB's office.
We were expecting our second kid, and for me, it
began with COVID. My wife was pregnant in twenty twenty
and I wasn't even allowed to attend an OB's appointment
with her. And I'll never forget the text message she
sent when we had when we found out.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
We had a miscarriage.
Speaker 6 (54:45):
As I sat in the parking lot when she informed
me that she had a miscarriage, she was experienced the
worst thing a parent can go through losing a child,
and the Democrats said, I could not be there and
comfort her as her husband is the And I'll never
forgive Gretchen Whitwor for that she did that to our
family and we cannot let that happen ever again, never again.
(55:08):
And that's why I'm fighting, and that's why we need
to understand. It's not just about COVID. People can't make
it in Michigan anymore, and our businesses it's tougher for them.
They cannot make it in Michigan. Our farmers cannot make
it in Michigan, Our families cannot make it a Michigan
and the next generation. Unfortunately, our largest export used to
(55:28):
be cars, and now it's our young people that needs
to stop.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
We're talking to Eric Nasabit, running for governor in Michigan.
That's an awful story about your wife and what she
had to discover about the baby while she was by herself. Unfortunately,
there's tons of people out there who weren't able, who
had similar emotionally heartrending experiences, weren't able to say goodbye
to mom or dad, or grandma or grandpa, or people
of their families and friends because they were restricted from
(55:56):
being able to enter under these broken COVID policies. Gretchen
actually thinks she did a good job with COVID, and
she may well run for President of the United States
based partly on what she considers to be her great
leadership of Michigan. What happens next with her and how
does Michigan as the front lines of a fifty to
fifty country, help to determine not only the future of
(56:18):
Gretchen Whitner, but the nation as well well.
Speaker 6 (56:20):
You got to have strong leadership, just the way Florida
was a fifty to fifty state ten years ago before
President Trump came on the scene. He's effectively worked it
to make it a lot more Republican, and you're seeing
that in Michigan. We I think we're becoming more and
more Republican because of President Trump's leadership and working to
bring out working class voters. We're the party of small
(56:43):
business owners, farmers, workers, seniors vote, you know, folks that
actually trust parents, and I believe this is our last
chance to save the state of Michigan. That's why I'm
running for governor is because I want everyone to be
able to make it in Michigan, and if we want
people to be able to make it in Michigan, we
got to turn the chapter from the Biden Whitmer administration
(57:06):
to the Trump Nesband administration. We have to make Michigan
work for working families, for our seniors, for our small
business owners, and our farmers. And this is what we're
building up and we're getting some great responses across the state.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Would you have ever believe you have two daughters, Would
you ever believe that it would become Democrat Party orthodoxy,
including in the state of Michigan where there have been
many controversies relating to this about men competing in women's
sports being something that needs to be protected by the
state of Michigan.
Speaker 6 (57:37):
And I have two younger daughters, a six year old
and a six month old. That's just blessed on both
of them. And I couldn't imagine ten years ago that
anybody would be defending having a man shower in a
gym with my daughter, or having them play on girls' sports,
or having them learn all the different pronouns instead of
(58:00):
twenty six pronouns being taught in schools. When you get
back to the twenty six letters of the alphabet I had.
I was out in Wayne County a few weeks ago
at a fundraiser mind and a parent came up to
me and said that they have a twelve year old
son going to a public school.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Sixth grade and.
Speaker 6 (58:22):
He didn't use the they them pronoun for another boy.
He was sent to the principal's office. This is not
the america you and I grew up. And God blessed
that twelve year old kid. And when he went down
to the principal's office, he says, well, with President Trump's orders,
I thought we could actually tell what people are by
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the secs that they were born as.
Speaker 1 (58:47):
I mean, Wayne County is Detroit for people who don't know.
And yeah, congrats to that twelve year old boy for
actually recognizing biological reality, something that virtually every Democrat elects
that official nationwide refuses to do so. Eric Nasbit, how
can people find your website? Where should they go if
they want to know more about the campaign?
Speaker 6 (59:07):
Yeah, it's a NUSBEIT for governor. Dot com is the
campaign address. I'm on Twitter and Facebook and Instagram all
that others. But it's Eric with an a middle of
five kids all started with a's and by the time
Mom got to me, it was either going to be
Eric or Erica with an A and boy, I'm glad
she with Eric, I would have grown up a little tougher.
I it was Erica, but yeah, Eric nesbitt and just
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farm boy. And that needs to We need to shake
up the status quar and Lansing. Turn the chapter from
Gretchen Whitmer away from Biden, and we need to bring
an ally at President Trump into that. That Governor's office
in Lead, Michigan is President Trump's working to make things
in the USA. We need to make sure that it's
easier to make things here in Michigan awesome.
Speaker 1 (59:54):
I appreciate the time and have a great weekend, and
good luck with that six month old. I hope she
sleep and tell your wife we've got her back here
as a community. That's a tough story you had to
go through in twenty twenty, but I'm glad you have
a new baby girl.
Speaker 6 (01:00:07):
Hey Clay, thank you so much and God bless you.
Thanks for covering the issues that matter and bringing it
to the people. And fortunately she started sleeping right after
Mother's Day and actually Mother's Day was the first full
night to the night that was a big.
Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Gift, no doubt. It's one of the best days out there.
We appreciate you. That's Eric Nesbit. When we come back,
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Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton show Buck
is still in Taiwan. He may be flying back. That's
a long trip. I'm not sure exactly where he is,
but I know he interviewed the president of Taiwan and
he will be playing that for you on Monday. I'm
sure telling you much about what he has learned in
(00:20):
his overseas trip. We have got a loaded show with you.
There's a ton of different breaking news stories that we
are going to be tracking during the course of today's show.
Of course, the shutdown is still ongoing. The stock market
does not care. Some positivity to start off the day
(00:41):
on Friday, record highs across the board in the stock
market again. So if you are out there and you
just bought s and P five hundred index funds and
you've said, I don't know what the politicians are going
to do, but I'm just going to invest in American companies, Congratulations,
you have got more money than you ever have had
(01:03):
in the history of your four oh one K. The
stock market has continued to set new highs over the
past year. And remember it was only back in April
that all of the experts told you that the economy
was collapsing because of the decisions that President Trump had made. Instead,
go ahead, learn it they were wrong. The Dow to
(01:25):
a record high today as we are all talking, the
Nasdaq to a record high, and the S and P
five hundred all two record highs, along with many of
the stocks out there, including Nearly although it's come back
down a little bit Tesla. Remember when Mike Walls, sorry
Tim Walls, whatever the heck his name is, the governor
(01:46):
of Minnesota, held up his phone and said, boy, does
anybody else get really excited when they see that Elon
Musk company stock is going down? Yeah, good move. I
hope you sold all your stock, you moron. Because Tesla's
continued to set new highs as we are rolling through
the early days of fall. So that is going on. Memphis.
(02:09):
I love this. I do think that if this were
a city where people paid more attention to from a
media perspective, the fact that the Trump administration has gone
into Memphis, the fact that many of the leaders of
Memphis have said, hey, we really need to help. Crime
is out of control. You heard some of our callers
yesterday from the Memphis area. One of the things you learn,
(02:32):
I know Rush talked about the drive by media all
the time. If it happens in New York City or Washington,
d C. Or LA, there are tons of media there
with microscopes basically just leaning right over and looking at
every little minute detail. If it happens in the middle
part of the country. And I say this as a
(02:52):
guy who's lived in the middle part of the country
pretty much my entire life, oftentimes people don't pay attention
to it. And so the fact that we actually they
have a partnership going on in Memphis designed to drive
down the murder rate in a city that, per capita
has one of the highest murder rates in the country,
is actually an incredibly successful and positive story. Of course,
(03:12):
not getting very much attention at all, there is to
a large degree as we enter I think it's day
three of the shutdown, there is also sort of a
recognition setting in. I think that Democrats have no idea
what they want to do, and they have no real message,
and there are a bunch of things I want to
talk about with that. By the way, also, ice protests
(03:35):
outside of a facility in Portland have spiraled out of control.
There was a reporter arrested who is getting a lot
of attention. They are now investigating somehow. The Portland police
can't investigate anyone. But this guy who saved a would
be burning American flag and was there reporting on it.
(03:56):
He is going to join us. Nick Sorter is his name.
He's going to join us at ten oh five Pacific,
that is one oh five on the East coast. He
is out in Portland, So we're going to talk about
what he is seeing on the ground. I know we
have a lot of you out in the Pacific Northwest refugees.
In many ways, you feel like from the insanity out
there that listen to this program. So we will be
(04:18):
talking with Nick about that. But I wanted to start
with this idea because I saw our friend Ryan Gerdusky
share a data point that some of you may have
also seen out there, and he said, hey, the only
place that's having babies is Trump voting areas. And that's
(04:41):
a little bit of an exaggeration. But here is Gurdusky's headline,
and I was reading it this morning as I was
getting ready. Among the counties with the highest fertility rate
so far in twenty twenty five, all of them voted
for Donald Trump. Sixty point five percent of the babies
born in twenty twenty five so far were in states
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that voted for Trump in the last election, and he
dives into the data. And I was thinking about this
because my assistant Katie had her baby girl, and we
went to go visit Annie, who is one day old,
and I got to hold a one day old baby,
and I forgot I had three one day old babies
(05:24):
at one point in my household, but I just forgot
how small they are. And her in laws were there,
and she's doing great, and this is her second baby,
and everybody's very excited. And if you were fortunate enough
to have kids or grandkids that have recently joined your family,
you know that feeling of just optimism and excitement. And
we talked about this on the program because Buck's got
(05:45):
a six month old and it's hard not to be
optimistic about the future and also committed to building a
better future when you have a baby in your arms.
And I was thinking about this in the context of
the government shutdown and putting all this together, or as
I was doing my reading and getting ready for the
show today, and I was thinking about, what is the
(06:07):
message that democrats are selling such that the most ardent
of all Democrat supporters have decided that they should not
have children, that kids are too much of a drain
on the climate, that we are headed for some form
of apocalyptic future, and if you add children to the mix,
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that somehow you are making things worse, and you are
throwing them basically into the proverbial boiling pot, and there's
no hope. And I was thinking about that in the
context of the shutdown, and I think one of the
real challenges that the Democrat Party has is not that
(06:50):
its messaging is being unheard. It's that its message is
being heard, and it's so profoundly dark that even the
people who buy into the message are making decisions that
are worse than if they never listen to the message
at all. Well, this is a big picture analysis, but
I think it all kind of ties together. If you're
(07:13):
not willing to have children, you are effectively saying, I
don't believe in the future. I don't buy into the
idea that humanity is going to lead us to a
better place. And I think it ties in with one
of the questions that we asked that was so important
in the aftermath of Trump's big win in November, that
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so many of you and us all contributed to. It
was what is the Democrat Party going to do with this?
They had two options. They could look in the mirror
and they could say the nation heard our message and
they overwhelmingly rejected it. Or they could argue, as Kamala
(07:58):
Harris is now doing in her book A Hundred in
seven Days, which Buck is reading and I cannot wait
to hear his review of. Or they could argue, as
Kamala Harris did, we just didn't have enough time. Our
message didn't get out there, it wasn't able to be
heard by the American public. And Democrats are still focused
(08:18):
on number two. They're focused on the message not being
heard loud enough. But I think that's profoundly wrong. I
think the message of what they are selling is being
heard and rejected, and it's being rejected by huge swaths
of the population white, Black, Asian, Hispanic, reasonable, common sense,
family oriented voters out there across the nation of a
(08:40):
wide variety of backgrounds. Remember all fifty states moved towards
Trump in twenty twenty four. But it's not just that
their message is being rejected by the American voter. It's
that the people that are hearing their message and acting
on it, are actually making worst decisions for their lives.
(09:04):
Think about that for a moment, because I don't know
that we've ever really lived in an era where something
like that could happen. Democrats that are the most committed,
the most left wing in the country, they are hearing
what their party is arguing, and they are saying things
are so bad now. America is so awful that I
(09:24):
don't want to bring children into this country. They are
hearing what Democrats are arguing, and they are saying, we
have to kill President Trump because he is hitler. They
are hearing what Democrats are arguing, and they are saying,
we have to go kill Charlie Kirk. We can't argue
against his message. His words are violence that we have
(09:47):
to answer with violence of our own. They're burning down churches,
They're going into schools, and they are killing innocent children
at Christian schools in Minneapolis, in Nashville. They're trying to
show up and kill Supreme Court justices because they're concerned
(10:07):
about what their rulings are going to do on the
Roe v. Wade issue. You stitch all this together, and
the nation thankfully is rejecting the arguments being made by
the Democrat Party, but the shutdown is being led by
the far left of this party, the part of the
party that is just angry and just demands that they're
(10:29):
be conflict and confrontation. And yet that element of the
party is toxic and sick, and it's now infecting not
only their political beliefs, but it's impacting in a very
negative way the larger society around them, such that if
you voted for Kamala Harris, you don't want to have kids.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Long range, this is a very self defeating proposition, because,
as Ryan Gardusky is saying twenty twenty five, if sixty
point five percent of kids are being born in Trump
States and if Trump counties are overwhelmingly seeing population growth, well,
this is a lot of babies being born for freedom.
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And the overall structural problems that confront the Democrat Party
actually are profoundly more challenging going forward, because theoretically, those
families are going to raise their kids to be proud
of America and to support freedom and to support the
overall American way of life. But as they fall further behind,
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and as their worldview becomes darker and more nihilistic. I
think we have to all prepare ourselves for way more violence.
And I don't think all of this has been put
together necessarily, and a lot of people have thought about it.
But the next census is going to make base make
(12:00):
it impossible for Democrats to win a presidential election. No
one is talking about this, but the only way Kamala
could have won in twenty twenty four was by winning Pennsylvania, Michigan,
and Wisconsin, and she came about two hundred and twenty
thousand votes ish away from winning those states. If she had,
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she would have won the electoral college two seventy to
two sixty eight. Twenty twenty eight. We still have the
existing census that's broken and didn't get things correct twenty
thirty two. That pathway has gone forever because way more
electoral votes are shifting to the red states. And even
(12:44):
if the Republican candidate in twenty thirty two lost the
so called blue Wall of the Midwest, which I'm skeptical
would happen. But even if that happened, that wouldn't be
a pathway for the Democrat Party to win. Sooner or later,
they have to come down to the South, and they
have to start winning Southern states where I live, and
I just don't think that's going to happen. From a
cultural perspective, I think those states where I live are
(13:07):
all moving redder in a rapid fashion. And so this
awful worldview that they are selling that leads right now
to the government being shut down, and they don't really
have any argument for why it needs to be shut down.
They're just angry. This awful worldview that does not create
babies like the baby I just went to go see,
(13:28):
does not create optimism, does not create American ingenuity and
an embrace of the human spirit, and just basic optimism.
It's leading the Democrat Party to a very dark place
where unfortunately, I think we have to prepare ourselves for
more Charlie Kirks. Because it's not that the Democrat message
(13:51):
isn't being heard. It's being heard and rejected by saying
people all across the United States, which is why all
fifty states move towards Trump. But it's particularly being heard
by the toxic base of the Democrat Party, and they
are acting out in an angry fashion because the dark,
dystopian vision that is being shared by the Democrat Party
(14:14):
is now motivating direct acts of political violence, and just
outrageous attacks on the idea of government even being open
itself when there's nothing that they're even arguing for. It's
just a anger, a lash out, the petulant fit of
a child. That's where we are, and I think it's
(14:35):
important to put all these things together and recognize where
that's going to lead us. So that's what I was
thinking about this morning. We'll take some of your calls
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The economy growing currently at three point eight percent rate,
inflation still yet to rear its ugly head. I'm just
telling you the Trump economy is starting to take flights,
and I hope that all of you are aware of that.
I understand that the lingering impact here's the biggest challenge.
(17:07):
People say, Okay, what what is the biggest challenge right
now in the economy as you see it. I think it's,
frankly just that the lingering impact of how awful Biden's
economic picture was is hard to get past because a
lot of you still feel and I feel it and
(17:29):
when I buy things too, that things just all cost
too much. And it's going to take years for the
rapid increase in prices that occurred during Biden's era to
actually normalize itself out. The reality is we need probably
five years of two percent two and a half percent
inflation in order for us to kind of normalize and
(17:52):
get used to the rapid increase in prices that occurred
during the Biden administration, and other than oil and gas,
which the prices have come back down, and that's a
more fluctuating commodity price. The reality is, once you have
embedded inflation, prices don't come back down. They don't ever
go negative. So the reason I think there is a
(18:17):
disconnect between what is rapidly becoming a very strong economy
and what still feels frustrating every time you buy something
is I just I don't think most people out there
really understood how bad Biden managed the economy. And I
wasn't alive back then, or at least was so young,
(18:40):
I certainly had no impressions. My bet is those of
you who lived through the rapid inflation of the nineteen seventies,
pricing normalcy didn't really return to you until the second
term of Ronald Reagan, where finally the rapid price increases
that occurred during Jimmy Carter's tenure came back down to
(19:03):
a form of normalcy. Now, I mentioned off the start
of the program about the fact that Democrat message was
being heard and they recognize that it's hard to stand
for left wing policies because those left wing policies actually
end up costing everyone. New York City is going to
(19:27):
bear the cost of this because there is an articulate
and charismatic and young and attractive socialistic candidate that is
saying things that people want to hear without understanding any
of the economic realities that underpin this. Remember Zorn Mandami said,
(19:47):
the way to deal with higher grocery prices is for
the City of New York to be in charge of groceries.
Let me just tell you something. There has never been
a successful city or state eight sponsored grocery in the
history of mankind that I'm aware of. This is what
they do in Cuba. So the idea that suddenly things
(20:09):
are going to get cheaper if a much more inefficient
method of bringing produce and bringing product to the city
is going to be put in place is madness. And
many of you out there understand this because you understand
basic business. And the reality is there are very few
businesses on the planet that have a lower profit margin
(20:34):
than grocery stores. We're talking about grocery stores making one
two percent. They sell a lot of product, but it's
a volume based business with very tiny margins. So the
idea that you're going to be able to somehow cut
into the profit margins of grocery stores and make way
more money is frankly bonkers. It's insane. It's a form
(20:57):
of just absolute madness, which unfortunately has overtaken, as I
laid out, much of the left in this country. But
Mam Donnie is an eloquent advocate for awful policies. And
I saw this and I said I should share this
because sometimes you guys complain. I don't know why you
talk about culture so much. Tell me more about how
(21:23):
the flat tax intersects with the larger geopolitical ramifications of
a bearing street energy pipeline and how that's going to Okay,
you can talk super specific policy. Super specific policy doesn't
win elections. I'm sorry, it doesn't. You have to tap
(21:45):
into the culture. And I saw this and I said,
this is how Mamdanni's doing it. The Bachelor is back
on air. Okay, The Bachelor. You may not watch. I
think it's the Golden Bachelor. Now, this is an old
guy meeting with older women, and it's wildly popular in
pop culture and zoron Mam Donnie made a New York
(22:08):
City ad that aired during The Bachelor this week, and
this is what you would have heard. And so for
those of you who have ever watched The Bachelor, the
concept of the show is at the end of the show,
a host a bachelorette two is a version of this,
gives the contestants a rose if they get to continue
to compete to win the true love of the Bachelor
(22:30):
or the Bachelorette. Mam Donnie speaks the language of young,
disaffected voters. It's important you go where they are. You
don't ask them to come where you are. And this
is the ad. He ran. I think it's ridiculous. I
think it's absurd. Guess what it works. Listen.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
You deserve better.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
You deserve to be able to raise your family here,
to be safe.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
You need to travel where you need to for you
have costs and worry.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
You deserve someone who works as hard as you do.
He thinks about you every second of the day. That's
the kind of mayor I promised to be New York.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Will you accept this rose? Okay? I get it. A
lot of you are rolling your eyes. Producer Ali was
so mad when I sent her this. She said, Oh,
it works. The reason he's gonna win is he's glib.
He connects on the culture. He's good on social media.
(23:30):
He's handsome on Instagram. He's good at cutting through the
noise because oh, he watches The Bachelor too. He's giving
us a rose. How bad of a guy could he be.
He's gonna make my rent lower, and he's gonna build
grocery stores and I'm gonna be able to get all
of my hair care products and all of my face
(23:51):
creams so much cheaper. He's so great. I love so
running m Dodey. It works. It works. You have to
go where people are and you have to confront them.
These girls saw that ad and they're like, oh, he's
(24:13):
where we are. He's watching The Bachelor too. He's gonna
make my I don't know, I don't even know what
people buy. Faith. He's gonna make me. I buy books,
and I buy like Kirkland products at Costco. So I'm
not very good at thinking about how everything's gonna be cheaper.
He's gonna make my uh ug boots that's popular with
the girls, right, He's gonna make my ug boots so
(24:35):
much cheaper. Oh my god, He's so amazing, like like
like you think this is crazy, I'm telling you, this
bachelor ad is echoing all through all through this young
voting public, which overwhelmingly thinks socialism works.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
See.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
One of the challenges of capitalism is it so good
that people start to take for granted how good it is.
This is true of anything in life that is really great.
At some point in time, you forget how important it
is to have solid foundational values in place. Because solid
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foundational values work so well that you can start to think, hey,
what if we just didn't care about this anymore. The
ultimate flaw of capitalism is capitalism works so well people
start thinking that other forms of government might work too.
All these kids that are mostly having their rent paid
(25:44):
for by mom and dad living in New York City
because they can't afford their own rent. They have no
economic basis in reality whatsoever, But Mom Donnie looks like
the kind of person that they think should be their politician.
This is how Kamala's entire career happened. Kamala Harris was
(26:05):
smart enough to realize, hey, you know, the average left
wing California voter wants someone who looks like me to
be in a position of prominence in this state, and
she wrote that almost all the way to the White House.
I'm not sure what Kamala Harris has ever done well
in her entire life, but she looks like the kind
(26:28):
of person that makes rich white women feel better about
themselves in California, and she can win an election based
on it. Mom, Donnie looks like the kind of person
that rich white liberals want to represent them in New
York City. And then he shows up at the places
that they care about, and he's conversant in the pop
(26:51):
culture language. And you may think it's ridiculous that this
thirty four year old socialist Ugandan out of no where
is suddenly showing up with a rose telling New York
City that he should be their mayor. But according to
the gambling markets right now, he's at ninety percent likelihood
to win. He's really good at marketing himself. He's got
(27:15):
a genius for selling the product, and the product is him,
and it's awful and everything that he supports is wrong.
But there is no alternative for him in New York
City right now. And I got to give him credit
because again, a lot of you are going to say, oh,
(27:36):
this is cringe. Oh, this is ridiculous. You're not the target.
You're not the target. Everybody who watches The Bachelor. I
bet the Bachelor in New York City. I bet the
people watching The Bachelor in New York City vote Democrat
ninety ten. It's an overwhelmingly young female audience. They see
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Mom Donnie with that rose, it's melt. Oh, look at
that handsome guy. This is the kind of guy I
would like today. Oh, he'll take care of the city,
just like he would take care of me. And they
go vote for him. And then meanwhile, a bunch of
people who don't understand how to compete in the modern
cultural wars are just sitting around like, I don't know
(28:19):
who cares about the Bachelor. Yeah, we did just elect
the most successful Republican twenty first century political candidate with
a landslide election, who is famous to a large extent
because he was on a reality television show. You can
say a lot of things about Donald Trump. People get
(28:41):
mad sometimes when he comments on Taylor Swift getting engaged,
or when he comments on what the NFL kickoff rules are.
You go to people where they are and that's how
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Speaker 1 (31:15):
Welcome again, Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are rolling
through the Friday edition of the program. We'll take a
bunch of your calls and continue to react to everything
going on in the world at large. But right now
we head up to the Pacific northwest to Portland, Oregon,
and we are joined by Nick Sorder, who was arrested
(31:36):
last night in the midst of all the chaos outside
the ice facility in Portland, where President Trump has said
we need to send in reinforcement, and where the leaders
of the state of Oregon have claimed there is no
need whatsoever for that to occur. So Nick, I just
want to give you the floor here. I want you
to tell everyone what happened to you. Just walk me
(31:58):
through and walk us through through your experiences last night.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I appreciate you guys having me here, and it's still
surreal thinking about this, about how this all went down
last night. You know, I had said a couple of
days ago on X that this city is so messed
up that if I were to defend myself, I would
be arrested while my assailant would get away, And that's
(32:26):
exactly what happened here. I have every right. These people
don't understand this. I have every right as a journalist
to be on the sidewalk and record what's going on
in public, no matter how much they wind, scream and
cry about it. I have every right to do so.
And these Antifa thugs, they'd been able to get away
(32:46):
with physical violence for so long now that they feel
empowered to harass you, to hit you, to break your equipment,
and sometimes even mace you. The amount of times I
had mace thrown in my safe this week has been crazy.
Like I'm surprised I still have visions and nothing has
ever done about any of that. Ever, it's when I
(33:09):
tried to defend myself after ten people gang up on
me and throw me in a flower pit, that that's
when the police decide, okay, we're going to actually do
something for once. So all these theories that we've had
about how Antifa has pretty much infiltrated the Portland Police Department,
or that Antifa has been by the balls, it's just
(33:30):
it was confirmed true last night. I mean, this goes
to show that the conspiracy theories quote unquote were true.
And you know, it's not going to intimidate me. It's
not going to stop me. If anything, I'm going to
be more aggressive with it because now we've got the
DJ involved, now we've got you know, national headlines about
(33:51):
about this. The six hours in jail was really worth
it for what I think is going to come out
of Portland, Oregon.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Now, okay, let me then a couple of things that
happened last night. You witnessed them trying to burn a
American flag last night, and you stepped in to save
the flag, and that certainly antagonized them as well.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Correct, absolutely, Yeah, that's when they started following me around.
I was talking to to somebody on the other side
of the something walked. I saw MO set the flag
on fire. So I walked over them and rammed it.
I yanked it out of his flance and took the fire,
and ietually took the flag. I still had the feeling,
and because I immediately went and uh, you know, I
(34:37):
this about ten I heard it for about ten minutes
and then I brought it to my car and and
put it in my car, and you know, I don't
feel bad about that. I'm sorry if somebody got their
feelings hurt that I, uh put the flames.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Out of the American flag.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
I'm not gonna apologize for that, and I would do
it again in the heart beat. So I knew that
I was I was risking, you know, getting right buttons
by these people by doing that, But at the time,
I just I didn't care because it's what needed to
be done. I'm so sick of watching these people just
you desecrate our flag and crap on our country, especially
(35:15):
when these same people are you know, they're waiting for
him flags while burning the American flag.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I'm set up with it. I weren't most Americans.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Uh, what were you charged with? Have you officially been
charged with anything? I know you were arrested and you
were held for several hours. What charges are you facing?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, so it took them an hour to figure out
what to charge me with. They had me in the
back of the patrol car sitting on the side of
the road while they had because they basically were like, okay, yeah,
we won't we want to take him into custody, but
we don't know what for yet, So we'll figure it
out as we go. So they arrested me, put me
in the back of the car, they started driving around.
They pulled over randomly and and got out of the
(35:55):
car so they could talk to the lieutenant without me
hearing it. And and that's when they just they were
going to charge me with disorderly conduct. And naturally I
was like, okay, disorderly conduct, Like okay, what did I do?
Tell me what I did? And I'm like, oh, well,
we don't know that information. We just know that you're
being charged with disorderly conduct. So it took until after
(36:16):
I was out of jail to see what the official
narrative was. Because the disorderly conduct can mean disorderly conduct
too in Oregon can mean either blocking the road, blocking
a sidewalk, or fighting. And I'm like, okay, well, the
Antifa Paris are doing the first two, you know, constantly
(36:37):
on a rolling basis. They're always blocking it. It was always
blocking the sidewalk, and every other minute they're fighting each other.
None of them are ever charged with this crime, just me.
Is that a coincidence? Or was I targeted?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You were called already, I believe by the Attorney General
of the United States, Pam Bondi, What did she tell you?
What was that conversation like that?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
That was pretty incredible phone call to get this morning
from the Attorney General Bondi on her cell phone calling
me and telling me that she was immediately ordering har
Meat Dilan, the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, to
launch a full investigation into the Portland Police Bureau to
(37:20):
because like this is this isn't a one off situation.
This happens frequently to It's just the difference is this
time I have a platform, right, how many other victims
of this police department are there? I would argue that
half of Portland are victims of this police department from
their lack of action, from their support for Antifa. And
(37:41):
so that was really good. And if you know anything
about har Meat Dylan, I'm telling you that that part
excited me the most. Putting har Meat Dylan on this
Portland isn't ready for what's coming.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
I'm just saying, why do you think this has been
allowed to occur for so long? Because Portland is a
great city. I don't know where your homes, but it
is a jewel of America. If you just consider natural beauty.
It had been and long had been a thriving place.
But it was safe, right Like it might be left leaning,
(38:12):
but it wasn't a violent place. There were not very
many murders. The city was safe. Now that downtown is
a mess, and I know we've got a ton of
people listening to us right now on eleven ninety k
e X in the Portland area. This all kind of
went to hell starting with the George Floyd protests and
it has continued for for a long time. Uh, left
(38:35):
wing politicians will say antifa is not a thing. What
would you say to those people? What would you say
to anyone out there who's saying, oh, Antifa, that's not
really anything to be concerned about.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, well that's that's say Joe Biden era talking point, right,
because you know they they don't want to they at
the end of the day, these these far left Democrats
are really I mean, hell, the leaders of the Democrat
Party at this point, Johan Omar and Jasmine Krockett and AOC,
they're never going to condemn these people, right, they actually
(39:08):
support the message that they're doing. So the saying that
antifa is just an idea, I mean, come down here
and talk to any of them on the street. It's
an organized group. They have subgroups too, like the one
here is Rose City Antifa. It's an organized group, an
organized effort. So I mean, it's just blatantly false to
(39:30):
say that it's just an idea and not an organization.
I don't even know, but I mean, that's that's pretty
much the modern day Democrat Party at this point. You
just blatantly lie to your face and let me ask
you this, that you don't think anything else of it?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
And yeah, no, I think that's totally true. We're talking
to Nick Sorder, who has done incredible sort of on
the ground journalism surrounding these protests in Portland. What do
you think of the police force in Portland? Because I'm
gonna be honest with you. I meet officers all over
the country and they say, hey, you're you know, we
(40:04):
listen to the show. We agree with you on everything.
When you got arrested, did anybody say, hey, man, I
agree with you. I got to stay undercover a little bit.
Do you think the Portland police as a group have
been basically taken over by left wing activism and that's
why they're not arresting or do you think the police
force recognizes how much a bs this is, but they're
(40:28):
being led from above and not allowed to actually make
the community safe. What's going on in your mind with
the culture of the Portland police as it pertains to
these protests.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
I'm going to be totally honest with you, and I'm
not going to have any disrespect for the officers that
arrested me yesterday. But they had a very tough time
figuring out how to write a police report. It's like
they just never do it anymore. And that's probably true.
Speaker 6 (40:54):
They are.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I was when I was there for that six hours,
three peeps came into the jail that the jail houses.
It's the only one in Portland and all of Portland,
and three people came in a major American city overnight.
They're not arresting anybody. They're not arresting anybody. And in
my there was an officer that from a neighboring jurisdiction
(41:18):
that was there with me yesterday. He was he had
left right before this entire thing went down, that he
was providing security for me, and he went up to
some of the officers there in Portland and said, you
guys have no shame. You should resign in disgrace. You
should not be following these BS orders, orders that you
know are BS because they're told to stand down constantly.
(41:42):
You have these quot unquote liaison officers that stand there.
Bill Malluchin posted a video would be being assaulted by
these anti foot thugs the other day and you can
see in the background these officers just standing there, watching
doing nothing. Because what do you think following orders?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
What do you think would happened.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
From a page and just follow orders like that and watch,
you know, people get beaten the street like I'm sorry,
I'm not going to follow that order.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
If you have President Trump, the White House you mentioned
you talked with Pam Bondy, what should they do to
take control of Portland streets because it sounds like the
Governor's not going to allow it. It sounds like the
Mayor's not going to allow it. But I know there's
a lot of people out there that are listening to
us right now in Portland that are just saying, much
(42:26):
like with what happened with Seattle, oh hey, we've got
to have some sanity come in. What should the White
House do? What should the National Guard do? Nobody's getting arrested.
What should happen?
Speaker 2 (42:37):
She Caroline Levitt is talking about it right now. Actually,
she is going off on Portland about how they're being
ravaged that she's speaking about the arrest and such. Honestly,
I think that the we if you talk to residents here,
this is what they want to see. They actually support
(42:57):
the idea of the federal government coming in and taking
more control here. They're just going to say it publicly
because they'll be you know, harassed and assaulted for it.
But okay, right, well, sorry, I described by Caroline kind.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Of a bit kind of a big deal to have
the White House or talking about your arrest while you're
being interviewed on the biggest radio show in the country.
So we certainly understand that.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Sorry I don't mean to pause there, but uh but
but yeah, but I live at Washington, d C. Right
where they act like all these people are uh, not
wanting or not liking the federal intervention that happened Theerry,
and that's just not true. Everyday residents love it. They're
excited by it, they feel safe, they can walk around again.
(43:44):
The people of Portland want the same thing, they just
can't say publicly or else they'll be beating the street too, Nick.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
While we're talking to you, Mary Margaret Olihan, I'm sure
you're talking about this, but for there seeing this for yourself,
because I can hear Caroline the background, Mary Margaret Olihan
at the Daily Wire said, Caroline Levitt says Nick Storder's
arrest should be very should is unacceptable and everyone should
be concerned that you were arrested rather than the violent
(44:10):
rioters in Portland. And so we will let you continue
to watch that just we'll be in touch. Are you
going to be out in the streets again in Portland?
What's your plan now? And do you feel like you're
going to be safe?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Oh yeah, I've got the I've got a lot of
patriots coming today, so it'll be it'll it'll be good,
It'll be safe. It's a lot of people flying in
just to support me today.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
So well, we appreciate everything you're doing. We know it's
a crazy time. We appreciate you making the time to
come on with us. Stay safe, and thank you to
everybody out there that can be and will be patriots.
If people are listening in Portland and they want to
support you, what should they do? What could you tell
them to do hon street.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Just uh just support me on x That's that's that's
what that's that's what we need the most is just
uh uh support independent journalists, not even just me, just
people that are there a lot of well if you
like Katie Davis Corn with the post millennial that just
got assaulted with a freaking hype on the streets to
Portland the other day, and of course nothing is done
(45:11):
about it, tweeted, do anything, but like support invented journalists.
That's what needs to happen because we're the ones that
are actually embedded boots on the ground, you know, risking
our own safety and we even freedom doing this stuff.
And you know, the outboting and support has been incredible
from so many people from around the world. And I
appreciate you giving me the platform today.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Thank you for coming on with us. And stay safe.
That is Nick sorder. Encourage you guys. You can go
follow and we'll share some of his videos and some
of the stories. But again, he was arrested last night
at the Antifa attacked event, basically the protest that Antifa
is putting on surrounding Ice and being talked about right
now in the White House as President Trump prepares, I
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you. While we were just talking with Nick Sorter
about his arrest, the White House was talking about Nick
Sorder's arrest. Here's our friend Caroline Levitt at the White
House podium discussing that just moments ago, cut thirty one.
Speaker 7 (47:44):
Just last night we saw an extremely troubling incident where
conservative journalist Nick Sorder was captured on video being taken
into custody by the Portland police after he was ambushed
by Antifa and was defending himself from these assaults. But
instead of arresting these violent mob members nights after nights
after night who are ravaging this community, the police arrested
(48:06):
a journalist who is there trying to document the chaos.
And everyone in this room should be extremely concerned about that.
The Department of Justice spoke with that journalist this morning
and they will be launching a full investigation into his arrest.
This incident is part of a troubling trend in Portland
where left wing mobs believe they get to decide who
can visit and live in their city. It is not
their city, it is the American people's city. And President
(48:28):
Trump is going to restore that.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
I just spoke with the.
Speaker 7 (48:30):
President about this, and he has directed his team here
at the White House to begin reviewing aid that can
potentially be cut in Portland. We will not fund states
that allow anarchy.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Well, so Portland is in the FO stage of FAFO
and we will see what ends up happening. We want
Nick to stay safe, and so I know many of
you in the Portland area and beyond, but certainly in Portland,
appreciate the reporting that he's doing. But we got to
arrest all these all these kooks, all these crazy people.
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He is a state senator in Michigan. Running for the
governor's office. Up there, we talked about how Michigan is
probably the most important state. I honestly mean this if
(50:28):
you look at twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight
and the amount of serious offices that are up for
grabs as there will be no incumbent governors. The awful
Gretchen Whitmer will hop on her broomstick and right off
into the night sky. Eric nesbit with us. Now, what
do you see on the ground. We talked about this
(50:48):
yesterday as well. What do you see on the ground
in Michigan? And are you optimistic that Michigan can become
much more of a red state in the years ahead.
Speaker 6 (51:00):
Thanks for having me on, and I'll tell you one thing.
Michigan Republicans are excited after last year President Trump winning
the state again and drawing out a record setting number
of people as we continue to grow the party here
in Michigan, because we've seen what it means under Governor
Whitmer and the Democrats here in Michigan that it's tougher
(51:21):
to make it in Michigan. It's tougher to do business
in Michigan. Three out of four fourth graders can't read
at grade level. So it's tougher for our kids to
learn in Michigan, and our job creators, it's tough for them.
With the highest energy costs, highest insurance costs in the Midwest,
it's just tougher to expand and invest. And with Governor
Whitmer term limited out, with Gary Peters leaving and fleeing
(51:44):
the US Senate, with three competitive congressional seats, with the
state House, with President Trump's leadership, last year, we won
back the State House in Michigan and we ended a
Democrat trifecta. I feel positive on the ground and motivated
as we continue to grow our campaign and activate folks
(52:05):
on the ground to turn out. I was in Monominee
last Saturday, which is a small community I think about
twenty thousand people. Actually, Tudor Dixon was up there as
one of the speakers. Her and I were the keynote
speakers there, and there was a sold out crowd, over
one hundred and thirty people in this small county, and
they already had sixty tickets for Lincoln they sold for
next years. There's a lot of energy that's around there,
(52:27):
and we're continuing to see that around the state.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Talking to Eric Nesbitt, I'm curious when you went to Hillsdale,
and we love Hillsdale College here, doctor Larry Arn has
built a powerhouse. What was that experience like for you?
And I know you have young kids, as do I.
You've got three. As you start to look forward in
the larger educational environment, how impactful do you think Hillsdale
(52:53):
is becoming not only in the state of Michigan where
you are, and obviously as your alma mater has a
lot of connection to it cultural force across the nation.
Speaker 6 (53:01):
Now, yeah, doctor Harn has been a great mentor at
me over the years. He's continues to show leadership and
light and darkness. You know where there's a lot of
darkness and higher education and you saw that with Charlie
Kirk going into college campuses. He was at Michigan State
University this spring. I have a plenty of staff that
(53:23):
used to work for Turning Point or Bountier on campuses.
But you see how the left wing tries to shut
down debate and dissent and try to indoctrinate our kids
in public universities and private colleges. And God blessed Charlie
for taking it on and they tried to cancel them
and silence them. An Unfortunately, a few weeks ago an
(53:44):
assassin's bullet took them out. But I'm like a lot
of these schools, Hillsdale was one that Charlie Kirk actually
believed in, and he knew that they taught the basic
foundations of American government, of why our rights actually come
(54:05):
from a creator, our God, not from government, where Democrats
and the left wing progressives believe our rights come from government.
And we saw that during the COVID lockdowns. It was
disgusting and wrong the way Governor Whitmer shut down our schools,
shut down our businesses. And this is part of the reason.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
Why I'm running.
Speaker 6 (54:25):
My wife and I we went to the OB's office.
We were expecting our second kid, and for me, it
began with COVID. My wife was pregnant in twenty twenty
and I wasn't even allowed to attend an OB's appointment
with her. And I'll never forget the text message she
sent when we had when we found out.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
We had a miscarriage.
Speaker 6 (54:45):
As I sat in the parking lot when she informed
me that she had a miscarriage, she was experienced the
worst thing a parent can go through losing a child,
and the Democrats said, I could not be there and
comfort her as her husband is the And I'll never
forgive Gretchen Whitwor for that she did that to our
family and we cannot let that happen ever again, never again.
(55:08):
And that's why I'm fighting, and that's why we need
to understand. It's not just about COVID. People can't make
it in Michigan anymore, and our businesses it's tougher for them.
They cannot make it in Michigan. Our farmers cannot make
it in Michigan, Our families cannot make it a Michigan
and the next generation. Unfortunately, our largest export used to
(55:28):
be cars, and now it's our young people that needs
to stop.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
We're talking to Eric Nasabit, running for governor in Michigan.
That's an awful story about your wife and what she
had to discover about the baby while she was by herself. Unfortunately,
there's tons of people out there who weren't able, who
had similar emotionally heartrending experiences, weren't able to say goodbye
to mom or dad, or grandma or grandpa, or people
of their families and friends because they were restricted from
(55:56):
being able to enter under these broken COVID policies. Gretchen
actually thinks she did a good job with COVID, and
she may well run for President of the United States
based partly on what she considers to be her great
leadership of Michigan. What happens next with her and how
does Michigan as the front lines of a fifty to
fifty country, help to determine not only the future of
(56:18):
Gretchen Whitner, but the nation as well well.
Speaker 6 (56:20):
You got to have strong leadership, just the way Florida
was a fifty to fifty state ten years ago before
President Trump came on the scene. He's effectively worked it
to make it a lot more Republican, and you're seeing
that in Michigan. We I think we're becoming more and
more Republican because of President Trump's leadership and working to
bring out working class voters. We're the party of small
(56:43):
business owners, farmers, workers, seniors vote, you know, folks that
actually trust parents, and I believe this is our last
chance to save the state of Michigan. That's why I'm
running for governor is because I want everyone to be
able to make it in Michigan, and if we want
people to be able to make it in Michigan, we
got to turn the chapter from the Biden Whitmer administration
(57:06):
to the Trump Nesband administration. We have to make Michigan
work for working families, for our seniors, for our small
business owners, and our farmers. And this is what we're
building up and we're getting some great responses across the state.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Would you have ever believe you have two daughters, Would
you ever believe that it would become Democrat Party orthodoxy,
including in the state of Michigan where there have been
many controversies relating to this about men competing in women's
sports being something that needs to be protected by the
state of Michigan.
Speaker 6 (57:37):
And I have two younger daughters, a six year old
and a six month old. That's just blessed on both
of them. And I couldn't imagine ten years ago that
anybody would be defending having a man shower in a
gym with my daughter, or having them play on girls' sports,
or having them learn all the different pronouns instead of
(58:00):
twenty six pronouns being taught in schools. When you get
back to the twenty six letters of the alphabet I had.
I was out in Wayne County a few weeks ago
at a fundraiser mind and a parent came up to
me and said that they have a twelve year old
son going to a public school.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Sixth grade and.
Speaker 6 (58:22):
He didn't use the they them pronoun for another boy.
He was sent to the principal's office. This is not
the america you and I grew up. And God blessed
that twelve year old kid. And when he went down
to the principal's office, he says, well, with President Trump's orders,
I thought we could actually tell what people are by
(58:43):
the secs that they were born as.
Speaker 1 (58:47):
I mean, Wayne County is Detroit for people who don't know.
And yeah, congrats to that twelve year old boy for
actually recognizing biological reality, something that virtually every Democrat elects
that official nationwide refuses to do so. Eric Nasbit, how
can people find your website? Where should they go if
they want to know more about the campaign?
Speaker 6 (59:07):
Yeah, it's a NUSBEIT for governor. Dot com is the
campaign address. I'm on Twitter and Facebook and Instagram all
that others. But it's Eric with an a middle of
five kids all started with a's and by the time
Mom got to me, it was either going to be
Eric or Erica with an A and boy, I'm glad
she with Eric, I would have grown up a little tougher.
I it was Erica, but yeah, Eric nesbitt and just
(59:32):
farm boy. And that needs to We need to shake
up the status quar and Lansing. Turn the chapter from
Gretchen Whitmer away from Biden, and we need to bring
an ally at President Trump into that. That Governor's office
in Lead, Michigan is President Trump's working to make things
in the USA. We need to make sure that it's
easier to make things here in Michigan awesome.
Speaker 1 (59:54):
I appreciate the time and have a great weekend, and
good luck with that six month old. I hope she
sleep and tell your wife we've got her back here
as a community. That's a tough story you had to
go through in twenty twenty, but I'm glad you have
a new baby girl.
Speaker 6 (01:00:07):
Hey Clay, thank you so much and God bless you.
Thanks for covering the issues that matter and bringing it
to the people. And fortunately she started sleeping right after
Mother's Day and actually Mother's Day was the first full
night to the night that was a big.
Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Gift, no doubt. It's one of the best days out there.
We appreciate you. That's Eric Nesbit. When we come back,
we'll take some of your calls. Talk back Friday. No
more guest schedule for the rest of the show. You
can react to everything as we roll you into the weekend.
I want to say, it's fall and if you're walking
around outside, no matter where you are, you may start
to feel a little bit of a brisk coolness in
the morning. I felt like that this morning. I was
(01:00:42):
walking my fifth grader to school and I thought to myself, Ah,
it does feel a little bit like fall now that
we're into October, and even a few tree leaves where
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