October 6, 2025 • 36 mins
In Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Buck zeroes in on the escalating crime crisis in Chicago, contrasting the city’s staggering murder rates with the safety and social trust he observed during his recent trip to Taiwan. He highlights shocking statistics—Chicago averaged around 600 murders annually, compared to just 200 in all of Taiwan, a nation of 23 million people. Buck shares vivid anecdotes from Taipei, where families stroll in parks at night and residents leave smartphones unattended in cafes, illustrating what a high-trust, low-crime society looks like versus the lawlessness plaguing U.S. cities under Democratic leadership.
The discussion then pivots to Mayor Brandon Johnson’s attacks on President Trump, accusing him of waging a “war on poor people” over immigration enforcement and crime reduction efforts. Buck dismantles these claims, arguing that Trump’s deployment of federal resources and National Guard units aims to protect vulnerable communities from gang violence and fentanyl-fueled chaos. He frames the debate as a battle between law and order versus progressive incompetence, calling out Democratic leaders like Johnson and Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker for perpetuating urban decay.
Next, Buck covers the government shutdown standoff, featuring live remarks from White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt and commentary from Senator Ted Cruz. Cruz blasts Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer for what he calls a “temper tantrum” driven by fear of a primary challenge from AOC. Buck underscores that Democrats are demanding additional spending for programs like Obamacare subsidies, sparking a broader conversation on the failures of the Affordable Care Act. He argues Obamacare has led to skyrocketing premiums, reduced coverage, and ballooning Medicaid costs, while Democrats quietly push healthcare benefits for illegal immigrants—despite public denials from figures like Elizabeth Warren.
The hour closes with listener calls exposing real-world consequences of emergency room overcrowding caused by illegal immigration, reinforcing Buck’s point that Americans are paying the price in time, taxes, and diminished care. He previews upcoming segments on Speaker Mike Johnson’s strategy to end the shutdown and his exclusive interview with Taiwan’s president about the looming threat from China.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We welcome in everybody's second hour of play in Buck
(00:02):
kicks off right now. So we's talked a lot about
Portland in the first hour of program, and these dueling
issues of immigrations and customs enforcement particularly and lawlessness in Portland,
and then similar situation in Chicago, ice facilities under siege,
(00:22):
Democrats wanting illegals to just be able to continue to
break our laws with impunity. That's not how the law works, lives.
But then there's also just the crime issue and homicides, murders,
as salts, robberies, all of that, and the situation in
Chicago where you have still a very high overall murder rate.
(00:46):
It's America's third largest city. It's a beautiful city. I
love Chicago as a place, and it's got a lot
of great people. It's got wonderful food and architecture, and
there's a lot of things going for Chicago. Here it's
a little cold in the winter, but a lot of
things going for Chicago. Sorry, I'm from Miami now, so
I get to say these things. Little chili in January
in Chicago, but I hear it's a lovely place overall.
(01:09):
And I've only been there once and I had a
great experience, I must say, but there's too much crime.
And the Mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, is an incompetent
and is only making things worse there. And he sees
this as his chance to square off against Donald Trump.
So he's going after the President. Remember, the President wants
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to make safe the city of Chicago for all residents.
In doing so, using federal law enforcement resources in federal
support to make it make their fewer murders and to
make it safer on the streets of Chicago. It would
disproportionately help minorities because there are more black resident of
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Chicago who are shot and killed than anyone else. And
so it is actually a great service to the predominantly
black areas of the city of Chicago to bring the
crime rate down. It's very small percentage of people who
are doing a very large percentage of the violent crime,
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and of those crimes, the targets the victims are largely
disproportionately black. We all know these numbers. We've all talked
about this. Meanwhile, Mayor Johnson, this is cut twenty three,
is attacking Trump for these efforts.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Play it a double minded man.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
He is unstable in every way possible, unhinged and unhealthy.
The idea of described the American people as enemies from
within is clearly not just a sign of authoritarianism. He
has totally imbibed the full spirit of tyranny, and our
cities are not training ground for the military. In fact,
(03:03):
even the notion to suggest that the brave women and
men who sign up to serve this country to fight
terrorism around the globe, to protect our way of existence,
turning neighbors on their own neighbors is not only unconstitutional,
it is reprehensible.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It is reprehensible. Huh, Mayor of Chicago is shameless. We
all understand what President Trump is trying to do here,
and he's trying to make Chicago safer. Let's look at
some of the Let's turn to the numbers, shall we.
Last year, twenty twenty four, that's the last year for
which we have full numbers, Chicago had five hundred and
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seventy three murders. Now, that's the first time since twenty
nineteen that the number was under six hundred Chicago in
twenty twenty one. Let me just see the twenty twenty
one had pulling it up as I talked to you, Wow,
(04:07):
in ninety four, there were nine hundred and thirty murders.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
That's a lot.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Seven hundred and seventy eight murders in twenty twenty, seven
hundred and seventy eight murders in just the city of
Chicago in twenty twenty. Now, I just got back, as
you know, from Taiwan. I was on a fact finding
expedition there on a whole range of things, mostly on
the national security and economic front, because Taiwan is critical
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for well the world actually on those issues. And I'll
be explaining more of that. But how many murders do
you think Taiwan's a country of twenty three million people.
How many murders do you think Taiwan had last year?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Let me see, about two.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Hundred in the whole country of twenty three million people.
There are two million people in Chicago, and Chicago had
seven hundred and seventy eight murders in twenty twenty last year.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I know.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Let's say it's so let's say they're running at about
six hundred murders a year on average for the last
few years, because it's usually above six hundred, We'll we'll
be generous, We'll say about six hundred murders. So Chicago,
a city of two million, has three times the total
murder rate of the entire nation of Taiwan with twenty
(05:27):
three million people, with multiple cities that have over two
million people. I think we can see what's going on here.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
You might be thinking, well, what is it like to
be and I hadn't had this experience in quite some time.
What's it like to be in a place that feels
really safe. Well, when I was walking through a park
at about ten o'clock at night, a public park in
the downtown of Taipei, the main city, there were families
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in the park at night, just enjoying, you know, because
it's nice and warm there. It's very similar to climate
actually in South Florida. It's nice and warm there. And
they all they had was some lamps providing an ambient
light from the city. It's quite a city TYPEI but
you had families sitting on the park benches in the playgrounds.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Just like as if it was broad daylight.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
There's no concern about I can't be in a park
at night because bad things will happen, And there are
little kids running around playing, parents sitting on the benches
watching for afar and I had people writing to me, oh, buck,
but it's like that in my town in South Dakota,
or it's like that in you know, in my town
of five hundred people in you know, South Carolina or something.
(06:42):
And I'm like, okay, yeah, that's nice. But this is
a city of millions of people, millions of people consolidated
together in one place, and they and it's as safe
as a town of a few thousands in a very red.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Rural part of America. It is as safe that.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So you say, well, it must be possible. One of
the other anecdotes I have for this, which I thought
was so interesting, was that people would do this thing
where you would be in a cafe and they would
put their phone down.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And I would say to myself, wait a second. They'd
get up to go.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
To the bathroom, and they would leave their phone at
the you know, their one thousand dollars iPhone or whatever
at their seat. I had never seen this before, right,
I would. When I lived in Midtown Manhattan, I was
worried that somebody was going to reach into my pocket
when I was sitting there drinking my coffee and try
to take my phone. They leave their phone there to
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mark their seat to save their seat while they go
to the bathroom, and no one this is what you
had understand. I asked some of the locals about this.
No one thinks this is odd. They're like, yeah, of
course they want ever to know. It's It's like if
you're at a buffet at a hotel and you know
you leave your your napkin on the tables. Everybody knows
that you're sitting there. They do that with their smartphone
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in public places where people are coming and going on
the street.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
No big deal.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
High trust society, a place where people do not have
to be worried, do not have to be concerned about
crime because it is not a realistic concern for them.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Now, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Saying we're going to be able to turn Chicago into
Taipei in terms of safety and security. It would be nice,
but that's not gonna happen. I do point it out, though,
because we should know what is possible. We should know
that there are cities with millions of people living together
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where there is basically no concern whatsoever about crime, and
then use that as a comparison to say Chicago, where
there is far too much crime for far too long
It doesn't have to be this way. Crime is a choice.
Society makes a choice about how much crime it will tolerate.
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But crime is a choice. We don't have to deal
with things the way that they are. And unfortunately, what
you see from the mayor of Chicago and from Governor
Pritzker is they don't want it to get better. They
want this status quo. The same way that the Taiwanese people.
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And I say, I love Taiwan and I love the
Taiwanese people. They really endeared themselves to be talked about.
Everybody I dealt with there. Everyone is so polite and
considerate and friendly, and it's just a great place. It's
a great place the same way that they are proud,
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and they should be because I talk to them. They
kind of giggle, they laugh when I'm saying, well, you
got it's so safe.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Heer. How is this.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Little old ladies walking around midnight by themselves on the
streets not a care in the world. Kids, I didn't see.
I didn't take the subway there. I took their high
speed trains to get around the countryside because I had
some places I had to go.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
But they do.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
They do have people. We'll get on these trains. I
thought I was sitting in the quiet car. If you've
ever taken the Asella from DC to or Boston down
to d C with the New York stop, I thought
I was in the quiet car. No, that's just people
are just quiet and respectful. They're not all, you know,
playing their iPhones on speaker phone. They're not all shouting,
they're not all loud talking. I thought I was in
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a quiet car. I was just in a Taiwanese railcar.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
People just all being respectful. And there's no trash. There're
trash anywhere.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I mean, whether in the high speed train or on
the streets, there's no litter.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Isn't that amazing?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
It turns out you don't have to have people just
drop being you know, they're big mac rappers wherever they're walking.
It doesn't have to be that way, and we could
all be in a place that is much safer in
this country, in the big cities, if we were willing
to make the necessary decisions. As a society. You get
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the crime you tolerate. It is not a given. It
is not Oh, there's no way out of this status quo.
But when you have people like Mayor Johnson who don't
want it to get better. It won't get better. You
are locked into this. Here, this is cut twenty four.
(11:40):
Here he is saying that really, this is about a
war on poor people that Trump is waging.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Play it.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
This is not about deportation, This is not about community safety.
This is quite frankly, this is about for profit.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
You know, we know that there.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Is an investigation right now that's underway with Tom Holman,
who took fifty thousand dollars thousand dollars from two FBI
agents because Tom Holman made a promise to direct contracts
to the very people who are running these detention centers,
who actually gave over almost three million dollars to President
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Trump's campaign.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
The president of the.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
United States of America has declared war on poor people.
And if there was ever a time for working people
to stand up across this world, the time is now.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
What a just rabble rousing, lying jerk.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
This guy is war on poor people. Trump's trying to
keep keep poor people from getting shot walking to the
grocery store. He's trying to keep children from catching a
bullet from some gang banger who can aim and doesn't
care shooting it out with some other gang banger over
who gets to sell fentonal murdering people in the streets.
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Trump wants to stop that, and the mayor of Chicago
thinks that he's the good guy here. He thinks that
Trump's waging a war on poor people.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
No, the war on poor.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
People is from incompetent Democrats like the mayor of Chicago.
The war on poor people is from less left wing
race hustling democrats who don't want to take the necessary steps,
who don't want to do what they can do to
save lives and make those city streets safer.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
It could be a.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Heck of a lot better than it is, and Trump's
trying to make it so. And you know, I'll be
honest with you so much about this country I am
so proud of. I do think we're the greatest country
in the world. I know we have our problems. I
love America, though, I truly do. When you come home
from being abroad, it reminds you how much you love
this place. But it is embarrassing how much crime there
is in our Democrat cities like New York, where I
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used to live in. Though Chicago's way worse than New York,
It's embarrassing because it doesn't have to be this way,
and the leadership that says that it is. Whether it's
Pritzker or Johnson or any of these Democrats, you vote
for them, you get more of it. It's that straightforward,
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Speaker 2 (15:04):
All right, welcome back, and we let's go live here.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
We got Caroline Levitt on the shutdown from the White
House podium in the West wighing.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Let's hear what she's saying. She's taking questions right now.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Right, Look, the President is definitely committed to fixing and
improving our healthcare system. You saw it again last week
when he had one of the largest pharmaceutical companies in
the world coming into the Oval Office and promising to
lower drug prices by two hundred, three hundred, one hundred
percent in many cases for various types of drugs for
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American patients. That is a huge fix to a broken
system that has been ripping off the American people for
far too long. So the President's very committed to this.
But right now, we need to reopen the federal government,
and the President is remaining very firm in that position.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Catherine.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
If the vote failed in the Senate today to reopen
the government.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Or that trigger layoffs, Look again, we hope that the
vote will not fail. Because this administration wants to reopen
the government. We don't want to see people laid off,
but unfortunately, if this shutdown continues, layoffs are going to
be an unfortunate consequence of that.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I mean for when that would happen.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
We'll see how the vote goes tonight.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
Is the White House floating a proposal to cap Obama
fair subsidies by denying them to new enrollees.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I have not seen a proposal like that, Emily.
Speaker 8 (16:22):
Thanks Karen.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
The President said yesterday he was considering a phase.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Two approach to Venezuela, as the President considering the.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
US foods on the ground or any kind of supportive
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Speaker 1 (16:40):
So talking with Venezuela, I want to bring you mostly
the shutdown update. Look, we got to Speaker of the
House joining us in the third hour here on the program,
who will get into some of those details. But one
of the latest from the White House there our friend
Caroline Levitt doing a fantastic job as per usual, but yes,
it is definitely the case that Democrats, I think are
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being exposed here on what their real agenda is and
what they're willing to stand up and fight for, and
that is money for illegals health care. It's so funny
to see they say, oh, we would never do that,
we don't want health care for illegals. Remember what happened
on the debate stage in the election cycle in twenty
twenty when all of those Democrats, all of them in
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that debate, on that debate stage, said they wanted to
give health care Obamacare to illegals, And now they act
like they would never do that.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
They're lying to you.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
And also, Obamacare, we don't spend enough time on this
on the right, and I wish we would do more
on it.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Obamacare is a disaster.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Everybody who was a huge critic of it, saying it's
going to cost so much more, your coverage is going
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welcome back back in to play and buck. We have
the White House addressing the shutdown and other questions right now.
But on the shutdown issue, here's here's where things stand. Democrats,
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I think that they are finding this is not breaking
the way for them that they have wanted it to.
They in general think that shutdowns are something that favors Democrats,
probably because they have the media in their back pocket.
But here, here, let let's get into some of this.
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Ted Cruz, for example, Senator Cruz, this has cut four
It's pretty straightforward. The Republicans have said they'll fund the government.
It's Democrats that want their special goodies in addition to
the the continuing Resolution funding. So it's Democrats who are
throwing their little tantrum, and Senator Cruz is saying, maybe
they should stop stop throwing tantrents.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Play for the real reason we're having the shutdown is
Chuck Schumer is at a political crisis. A couple of
months ago, he agreed to allow the government to stay open,
and his left wing base got furious with him. He
is looking over his left shoulder, terrified that AOC is
going to primary him. And so this is a temper tantrum.
This is Chuck Schumer and the Democrats saying, we hate
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Donald Trump, and we hate Donald Trump so much we
are going to shut the government down. The government will
reopen when Schumer's temper tantrum ends. But this is pure
political theater, trying to guard his left base.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So that's one part of it.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Democrats trying to figure out how to play this when
it comes to their constituencies and what this looks like.
And I like that Senator Cruz goes after the possibility
of an AOC primary. Oh man, wouldn't that be great?
It would be such a fun thing to do to
just just pop the popcorn and watch AOC try to
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take Schumer down. And he's got to be thinking about that.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Schumer. He's a guy who say what you will about him.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
He knows how to keep that funding flowing for his
campaigns and he wants to keep that Senate seat. But
AOC would have a big advantage with well, a whole
bunch of things, but certainly with her media profile and
using digital media. This mom, Donny guy, by the way,
New York, I'm worried. I'm worried about what's gonna happen
to you guys. I really am, including my own family
(21:25):
that's there. This mom, Donny guy's a disaster, really truly.
He he'sn't even worse.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I thought he was really bad.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
But the more I'm seeing from him, I think he's
worse than I thought, which I'm not even sure I
knew that was.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Possible, but it is because he is. It's not good.
It's not good.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I think I'm gonna get some fellow Floridians out of
this bargain, some people who are sane, but I know
a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Of people are. It's not as easy as just picking
up and leaving. I was lucky.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I was not yet married, had a mobile job, I
didn't have a kid yet in school, so it was
easy enough for me to move.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I know it's hard for people to just pick up
and move, and they.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Shouldn't have to, right, You shouldn't have to flee some
communist maniac in a state like New York, which is
a great place and has so much going for it.
The city of New York, I should say, which has
so much going for it.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
But here we are.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
There, here's Trump. Let's just let Trump weigh in. This
is cut one on the shutdown and the possibility there
could be some Democrat job cuts from this.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Go for it, but it's all because of the Democrats.
Speaker 9 (22:36):
The Democrats are causing the loss of a lot of
jobs with their it's a shutdown.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
It's their shutdown, not our shutdown. It's their shutdown.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
It is their shutdown, the Schumer shut down, if you will.
They have decided that it is so important for them
to try to get these Obamacare ACA supplemental payments out there.
Let's just make this really easy Obamacare, which is this
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signature achievement, if you can call it that.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
But the main thing.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
That Barack Obama in eight years got done was Obamacare,
as we know, I know, ruining the country and igniting
race riots and all that. Yeah, that too, But the
main thing from a legislative standpoint is Obamacare. And they
promised that this was going to cover everybody and it
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was going to bring cost down. That was really it
was going to cover everybody and bring costs down and
also not explode deficit spending. And what you've seen is
that it was a It has failed on all fronts. Essentially,
it has covered more people, but overwhelmingly through medicaid. Medicaid
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is busting budgets in stea all over the country. And
there's the complicated machinery of how these states are funding
these programs and how they're like what they do in
a state like California, they spend in order to get
they spend more to they can get more federal matching dollars.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
They're running all.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Kinds of scams essentially to just create this massive slush
fund and Medicaid. There's so much of it too that
has nothing to do with actual care and.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's a disaster.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
But okay, before we get into all or without even
getting into this state funding of these things, have your
premiums gone up? All of you are saying yes, have
your premiums gone up?
Speaker 7 (24:45):
A lot?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
As in are you in whatever healthcare plan you have
which you weren't allowed to keep? That was the big
promise of obamaca if you like your plan, you can
keep your plan. No, you can't. And on your new plan,
do you have better coverage?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
You don't. Are you paying a lot more for it? Yes?
You are.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Was the whole Obamacare game, other than being a huge
giveaway to really the insurance industry, but was the whole
game that you were subsidizing. It's just a complex scheme
for you to subsidize other people's healthcare. That's what medicaid is.
But that's also what a lot of Obamacare exchanges are
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really all about. It is healthcare socialism. It's exactly what
people who were criticizing it, like me at the time,
said it would be. But then you add to that illegals.
You add to that the millions and millions of people
who have come into this country who are illegal aliens,
who are also getting healthcare now in something like emergency
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room care. You've seen New York City with its surge.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Of migrants in.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Twenty twenty four, thirty percent of emergency room visits where
legals because they just use it as Okay, now I
have a toothache, I go to the er. I need
prescription glasses. I go to the er and they don't
pay anything, and no one thinks they're going to pay anything.
So that's one part of this, right, But the way
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it works is even more complicated and more nefarious, I
would say, than just you having to shoulder the burden
of people coming into this country and making the because
the money comes from somewhere, right, someone is paying.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
For all these illegals.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Oh, and you also pay for it with your time
if you try to go to and this is true
if cities across the country, if you try to go
to the emergency room for an emergency. I know, they
say they do triage, but they're overwhelmed. They got doctors,
and you know, yeah, maybe you get seen before the
illegals if you've got like a you know.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
A stake knife in your shoulder when you come in.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
But if you go in there and you know you're
having a problem and you want to get seen quickly
and it's not like immediate life or death, you got
a whole bunch of illegals who are in there, who
are also being seen, who are being seen ahead of you,
and they're using it, like I said, for non emergency care.
(27:15):
But then you look at what happens in say California,
New York, where they do give they do give health
care to illegals as part of their state programs. Well,
then what California does is find every creative way possible
to make the federal government pay more health care funds
into the state of California, which are then fungible, which
(27:38):
then California uses to cover illegals.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
This is the game.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
And they say, oh, but none of these Obamacare dollars
go to illegals. Okay, but California, the state of California
has a budget, it has money that it spends. And
if California is spending money covering illegals and also taking
federal dollars to shore up whatever wild spending spreees it's
(28:03):
going on with healthcare generally, guess.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
What this is like. When they used to say, remember
that one.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Of the big lies about planned parenthood, with its decades
of murdering babies in the womb, planned paranoid, it was oh, well,
none of the dollars will go remember the high Demendment.
None of the dollars will go toward abortion, only go
toward women's healthcare. If I tell you, hey, you're running,
(28:32):
you need money for your household budget, I'm going to
give you one thousand dollars a month, but only for food.
You can't use it for gas. Well, if I'm giving
you a thousand dollars, what difference does it make. I'm
giving you one thousand dollars, right, whatever, the money that
you were going to be spending on food can now
be used for gas. This is how they play the
(28:53):
game of giving illegals healthcare coverage, and this is why
Democrats are fighting so hard on this issue and why
people like.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Elizabeth Warren Sharp shut he's just shaking her fist.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Here she is when CBS asks her if Democrats want
to provide healthcare to non citizens, this is cut to
listen to what Senator Warren when she goes on the
war path, she's scary.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Listen to what she has to say.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Publicans say, what you're really fighting for is taxpayer dollars for,
as they put it, illegal aliens.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I know that's not strictly true, but there is a provision.
Excuse me, not strictly it's not true, but.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Out why it is a flat out lie the way
that they frame it in Medicaid, there is nothing in
Medicare that permits one undocumented immigrant to get one dollar
of assistance.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
But they get it. And now they've already admitted that
it does happen. They just say it doesn't happen. It's
the classic Democrat sliding scale. It's not happening your line. Okay,
it's happening, but it's not happening that much. You know
where they'll eventually be as people see more than numbers. Okay,
it's happening, and it's a good thing. Shut your face.
Why are you such a racist? That's where we're headed,
(30:13):
you know, but Elizabeth Warren fired up there, someone better
hands her a peace pipe. Very upset, very unhappy with this.
But people are sick of Remember, our healthcare has gotten
more expensive and worse, and illegals are getting health care
out a whole bunch of ways, and you are paying
for it, and your children and your grandchildren will be
paying for it. And that's wrong. We should not be
(30:35):
the soup kitchen and emergency room for the entire world's poor.
And that's what we are right now. And it's not fair,
it's not right. We have Americans who need help. We
have Americans who are struggling. We have Americans who can't
pay their bills and are behind and have unaffordable bills
from doctors and emergency rooms. Oh but they're expected to
(30:57):
pay them, unlike the illegals. So Trump is on this
fight and should be, and it's the right way to go.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
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Speaker 2 (32:17):
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Speaker 1 (32:19):
We should be joined here in just a few moments,
a few minutes, i should say, by Speaker of the
House Johnson. So that will give us the most up
to date possible from the inside of the Capitol and
of this negotiation process on the Schumer shutdown. And I'm
going to ask him some specific questions about exactly what
(32:40):
we were just talking about, what's really at the heart
of this, and why are Democrats so dead set on
Well they set this thing off. Remember, Republicans said, here's
here's the cr let's just keep funding the government.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
No big deal.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Democrats said, no, I want more stuff beyond just funding
the government.
Speaker 9 (33:00):
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Speaker 1 (33:00):
No, you are not in the majority. You do not
have the White House, you do not have the House,
you don't have the Senate.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
What all right?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Government shutdown here? We are time for Democrats to see
the light and be reasonable. Well, that means we could
be waiting a very long time. VIP email from Mike.
I agree with President Trump using the National Guard, but
here's a different approach. Don't go into these Democrat run
cities that are saying they don't need them. Then flood
the TV and radio stations with ads, dating or already
(33:27):
you are ready to send them into help. But your
Democrat leaders say there's no crime problem if you agree
to keep voting Democrat. If you want law an order,
vote Republican.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Mike.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I like the idea, but I think Trump just wants
to save people and prove the process. Unfortunately, some of
these cities Democrat voters, they just haven't suffered enough. They
will not change their minds. They refuse to see reality.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Think about it.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Lori Lightfoot was a horrible mayor for Chicago, absolutely an incompetent. Uh,
just a disaster, and their crime rate was through the
roof and the riots and the George Floyd stuff and everything.
And then Chicago decided to elect Brandon Johnson, who might
(34:15):
be worse as a mayor. Hard to imagine. People keep saying, Mom,
Donnie's gonna be the worst mayor in America, worse than
Brandon Johnson. Really, I mean that's possible, Mom, Donnie could, Mom,
Donnie could go for the crown here, he could be
the champ. But it's tough. Brandon Johnson's really bad. Is
(34:36):
Ted Wheeler still the mayor of Portland? I remember he
was his Guys, who's the mayor of Portland right now.
I don't know the mayors of every city. I know
a lot of stuff, but I don't know the mayors
of every city. Offhand. It was Wheeler, which was hilarious
because I remember he went down during the George Floyd
Riots and he went down to downtown Portland to tell
Anti fuzz.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
He's like, I'm with you, guys, and they.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Were like, shut up, you you will you know, capular
capitalist swine.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I mean, they absolutely hated his guns. That's the best when.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
You're a cringing, bowing, kneeling, scraping lib politician. Keith Wilson
is the current mayor of Portland, Oregon. I'm sure he's
just I'm sure he is Ted.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Wheeler two point zero. He's got to be. He's got
to be because they're.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Not allowing, not allowing law enforcement to help their federal
counterparts local law enforcement. So that's all you have to
know about so much as a leader as a mayor.
Let's take Lisa calling in from San Antonio, Texas, wants
to chat.
Speaker 9 (35:36):
What's up, Lisa, Well, I'm glad you're back, and I
just wanted to give people some example of what's really
happening in the emergency rooms in the medical centers. My
father fell, he's ninety three and split up in the
back of his head, wasn't seen for four to five
hours after getting to the emergency room because it was
(35:57):
so full and overcrowded. Then he was released until after
midnight that night. That's from eleven am on a Sunday
to after midnight on a Sunday when he finally was
able to be released with staples in his head because
of the overcrowding of the emergency rooms because of the illegals.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, thanks for calling in. Sorry your dad had to
go through that. But this is happening all the time,
all across the country. So you're paying for with your
tax dollars, you're paying for with your time. You're paying
for with your suffering when you're sitting there waiting to
actually get seen in an emergency room, and Democrats want
to tell you there's no problem.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Be quiet.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Sound sounds kind of xenophobic or racist to even care
about all the illegals in these emergency rooms.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
That's what they want to tell you.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
All right, we'll talk to you a speaker Johnson here
in just a few moments about this shutdown. Also, my
interview with the president of Taiwan. Is China getting ready
to invade and why should Americans care about it? And
what should President Trump know about it? That's all coming
up next hour.
We welcome in everybody's second hour of play in Buck
(00:02):
kicks off right now. So we's talked a lot about
Portland in the first hour of program, and these dueling
issues of immigrations and customs enforcement particularly and lawlessness in Portland,
and then similar situation in Chicago, ice facilities under siege,
(00:22):
Democrats wanting illegals to just be able to continue to
break our laws with impunity. That's not how the law works, lives.
But then there's also just the crime issue and homicides, murders,
as salts, robberies, all of that, and the situation in
Chicago where you have still a very high overall murder rate.
(00:46):
It's America's third largest city. It's a beautiful city. I
love Chicago as a place, and it's got a lot
of great people. It's got wonderful food and architecture, and
there's a lot of things going for Chicago. Here it's
a little cold in the winter, but a lot of
things going for Chicago. Sorry, I'm from Miami now, so
I get to say these things. Little chili in January
in Chicago, but I hear it's a lovely place overall.
(01:09):
And I've only been there once and I had a
great experience, I must say, but there's too much crime.
And the Mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, is an incompetent
and is only making things worse there. And he sees
this as his chance to square off against Donald Trump.
So he's going after the President. Remember, the President wants
(01:34):
to make safe the city of Chicago for all residents.
In doing so, using federal law enforcement resources in federal
support to make it make their fewer murders and to
make it safer on the streets of Chicago. It would
disproportionately help minorities because there are more black resident of
(02:00):
Chicago who are shot and killed than anyone else. And
so it is actually a great service to the predominantly
black areas of the city of Chicago to bring the
crime rate down. It's very small percentage of people who
are doing a very large percentage of the violent crime,
(02:23):
and of those crimes, the targets the victims are largely
disproportionately black. We all know these numbers. We've all talked
about this. Meanwhile, Mayor Johnson, this is cut twenty three,
is attacking Trump for these efforts.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Play it a double minded man.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
He is unstable in every way possible, unhinged and unhealthy.
The idea of described the American people as enemies from
within is clearly not just a sign of authoritarianism. He
has totally imbibed the full spirit of tyranny, and our
cities are not training ground for the military. In fact,
(03:03):
even the notion to suggest that the brave women and
men who sign up to serve this country to fight
terrorism around the globe, to protect our way of existence,
turning neighbors on their own neighbors is not only unconstitutional,
it is reprehensible.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It is reprehensible. Huh, Mayor of Chicago is shameless. We
all understand what President Trump is trying to do here,
and he's trying to make Chicago safer. Let's look at
some of the Let's turn to the numbers, shall we.
Last year, twenty twenty four, that's the last year for
which we have full numbers, Chicago had five hundred and
(03:46):
seventy three murders. Now, that's the first time since twenty
nineteen that the number was under six hundred Chicago in
twenty twenty one. Let me just see the twenty twenty
one had pulling it up as I talked to you, Wow,
(04:07):
in ninety four, there were nine hundred and thirty murders.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
That's a lot.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Seven hundred and seventy eight murders in twenty twenty, seven
hundred and seventy eight murders in just the city of
Chicago in twenty twenty. Now, I just got back, as
you know, from Taiwan. I was on a fact finding
expedition there on a whole range of things, mostly on
the national security and economic front, because Taiwan is critical
(04:32):
for well the world actually on those issues. And I'll
be explaining more of that. But how many murders do
you think Taiwan's a country of twenty three million people.
How many murders do you think Taiwan had last year?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Let me see, about two.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Hundred in the whole country of twenty three million people.
There are two million people in Chicago, and Chicago had
seven hundred and seventy eight murders in twenty twenty last year.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I know.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Let's say it's so let's say they're running at about
six hundred murders a year on average for the last
few years, because it's usually above six hundred, We'll we'll
be generous, We'll say about six hundred murders. So Chicago,
a city of two million, has three times the total
murder rate of the entire nation of Taiwan with twenty
(05:27):
three million people, with multiple cities that have over two
million people. I think we can see what's going on here.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
You might be thinking, well, what is it like to
be and I hadn't had this experience in quite some time.
What's it like to be in a place that feels
really safe. Well, when I was walking through a park
at about ten o'clock at night, a public park in
the downtown of Taipei, the main city, there were families
(05:58):
in the park at night, just enjoying, you know, because
it's nice and warm there. It's very similar to climate
actually in South Florida. It's nice and warm there. And
they all they had was some lamps providing an ambient
light from the city. It's quite a city TYPEI but
you had families sitting on the park benches in the playgrounds.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Just like as if it was broad daylight.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
There's no concern about I can't be in a park
at night because bad things will happen, And there are
little kids running around playing, parents sitting on the benches
watching for afar and I had people writing to me, oh, buck,
but it's like that in my town in South Dakota,
or it's like that in you know, in my town
of five hundred people in you know, South Carolina or something.
(06:42):
And I'm like, okay, yeah, that's nice. But this is
a city of millions of people, millions of people consolidated
together in one place, and they and it's as safe
as a town of a few thousands in a very red.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Rural part of America. It is as safe that.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So you say, well, it must be possible. One of
the other anecdotes I have for this, which I thought
was so interesting, was that people would do this thing
where you would be in a cafe and they would
put their phone down.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And I would say to myself, wait a second. They'd
get up to go.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
To the bathroom, and they would leave their phone at
the you know, their one thousand dollars iPhone or whatever
at their seat. I had never seen this before, right,
I would. When I lived in Midtown Manhattan, I was
worried that somebody was going to reach into my pocket
when I was sitting there drinking my coffee and try
to take my phone. They leave their phone there to
(07:42):
mark their seat to save their seat while they go
to the bathroom, and no one this is what you
had understand. I asked some of the locals about this.
No one thinks this is odd. They're like, yeah, of
course they want ever to know. It's It's like if
you're at a buffet at a hotel and you know
you leave your your napkin on the tables. Everybody knows
that you're sitting there. They do that with their smartphone
(08:04):
in public places where people are coming and going on
the street.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
No big deal.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
High trust society, a place where people do not have
to be worried, do not have to be concerned about
crime because it is not a realistic concern for them.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Now, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Saying we're going to be able to turn Chicago into
Taipei in terms of safety and security. It would be nice,
but that's not gonna happen. I do point it out, though,
because we should know what is possible. We should know
that there are cities with millions of people living together
(08:46):
where there is basically no concern whatsoever about crime, and
then use that as a comparison to say Chicago, where
there is far too much crime for far too long
It doesn't have to be this way. Crime is a choice.
Society makes a choice about how much crime it will tolerate.
(09:10):
But crime is a choice. We don't have to deal
with things the way that they are. And unfortunately, what
you see from the mayor of Chicago and from Governor
Pritzker is they don't want it to get better. They
want this status quo. The same way that the Taiwanese people.
(09:31):
And I say, I love Taiwan and I love the
Taiwanese people. They really endeared themselves to be talked about.
Everybody I dealt with there. Everyone is so polite and
considerate and friendly, and it's just a great place. It's
a great place the same way that they are proud,
(09:52):
and they should be because I talk to them. They
kind of giggle, they laugh when I'm saying, well, you
got it's so safe.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Heer. How is this.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Little old ladies walking around midnight by themselves on the
streets not a care in the world. Kids, I didn't see.
I didn't take the subway there. I took their high
speed trains to get around the countryside because I had
some places I had to go.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
But they do.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
They do have people. We'll get on these trains. I
thought I was sitting in the quiet car. If you've
ever taken the Asella from DC to or Boston down
to d C with the New York stop, I thought
I was in the quiet car. No, that's just people
are just quiet and respectful. They're not all, you know,
playing their iPhones on speaker phone. They're not all shouting,
they're not all loud talking. I thought I was in
(10:38):
a quiet car. I was just in a Taiwanese railcar.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
People just all being respectful. And there's no trash. There're
trash anywhere.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I mean, whether in the high speed train or on
the streets, there's no litter.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Isn't that amazing?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
It turns out you don't have to have people just
drop being you know, they're big mac rappers wherever they're walking.
It doesn't have to be that way, and we could
all be in a place that is much safer in
this country, in the big cities, if we were willing
to make the necessary decisions. As a society. You get
(11:19):
the crime you tolerate. It is not a given. It
is not Oh, there's no way out of this status quo.
But when you have people like Mayor Johnson who don't
want it to get better. It won't get better. You
are locked into this. Here, this is cut twenty four.
(11:40):
Here he is saying that really, this is about a
war on poor people that Trump is waging.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Play it.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
This is not about deportation, This is not about community safety.
This is quite frankly, this is about for profit.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
You know, we know that there.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Is an investigation right now that's underway with Tom Holman,
who took fifty thousand dollars thousand dollars from two FBI
agents because Tom Holman made a promise to direct contracts
to the very people who are running these detention centers,
who actually gave over almost three million dollars to President
(12:13):
Trump's campaign.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
The president of the.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
United States of America has declared war on poor people.
And if there was ever a time for working people
to stand up across this world, the time is now.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
What a just rabble rousing, lying jerk.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
This guy is war on poor people. Trump's trying to
keep keep poor people from getting shot walking to the
grocery store. He's trying to keep children from catching a
bullet from some gang banger who can aim and doesn't
care shooting it out with some other gang banger over
who gets to sell fentonal murdering people in the streets.
(12:56):
Trump wants to stop that, and the mayor of Chicago
thinks that he's the good guy here. He thinks that
Trump's waging a war on poor people.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
No, the war on poor.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
People is from incompetent Democrats like the mayor of Chicago.
The war on poor people is from less left wing
race hustling democrats who don't want to take the necessary steps,
who don't want to do what they can do to
save lives and make those city streets safer.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
It could be a.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Heck of a lot better than it is, and Trump's
trying to make it so. And you know, I'll be
honest with you so much about this country I am
so proud of. I do think we're the greatest country
in the world. I know we have our problems. I
love America, though, I truly do. When you come home
from being abroad, it reminds you how much you love
this place. But it is embarrassing how much crime there
is in our Democrat cities like New York, where I
(13:46):
used to live in. Though Chicago's way worse than New York,
It's embarrassing because it doesn't have to be this way,
and the leadership that says that it is. Whether it's
Pritzker or Johnson or any of these Democrats, you vote
for them, you get more of it. It's that straightforward,
it's that simple. Trump's trying to save people, all right. Look,
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Speaker 2 (15:04):
All right, welcome back, and we let's go live here.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
We got Caroline Levitt on the shutdown from the White
House podium in the West wighing.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Let's hear what she's saying. She's taking questions right now.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Right, Look, the President is definitely committed to fixing and
improving our healthcare system. You saw it again last week
when he had one of the largest pharmaceutical companies in
the world coming into the Oval Office and promising to
lower drug prices by two hundred, three hundred, one hundred
percent in many cases for various types of drugs for
(15:34):
American patients. That is a huge fix to a broken
system that has been ripping off the American people for
far too long. So the President's very committed to this.
But right now, we need to reopen the federal government,
and the President is remaining very firm in that position.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Catherine.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
If the vote failed in the Senate today to reopen
the government.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Or that trigger layoffs, Look again, we hope that the
vote will not fail. Because this administration wants to reopen
the government. We don't want to see people laid off,
but unfortunately, if this shutdown continues, layoffs are going to
be an unfortunate consequence of that.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I mean for when that would happen.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
We'll see how the vote goes tonight.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
Is the White House floating a proposal to cap Obama
fair subsidies by denying them to new enrollees.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I have not seen a proposal like that, Emily.
Speaker 8 (16:22):
Thanks Karen.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
The President said yesterday he was considering a phase.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Two approach to Venezuela, as the President considering the.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
US foods on the ground or any kind of supportive
overthrowing Maguro. I won't get into any specific proposals that
are being considered by the President in his national foscay.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
So talking with Venezuela, I want to bring you mostly
the shutdown update. Look, we got to Speaker of the
House joining us in the third hour here on the program,
who will get into some of those details. But one
of the latest from the White House there our friend
Caroline Levitt doing a fantastic job as per usual, but yes,
it is definitely the case that Democrats, I think are
(17:01):
being exposed here on what their real agenda is and
what they're willing to stand up and fight for, and
that is money for illegals health care. It's so funny
to see they say, oh, we would never do that,
we don't want health care for illegals. Remember what happened
on the debate stage in the election cycle in twenty
twenty when all of those Democrats, all of them in
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welcome back back in to play and buck. We have
the White House addressing the shutdown and other questions right now.
But on the shutdown issue, here's here's where things stand. Democrats,
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I think that they are finding this is not breaking
the way for them that they have wanted it to.
They in general think that shutdowns are something that favors Democrats,
probably because they have the media in their back pocket.
But here, here, let let's get into some of this.
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Ted Cruz, for example, Senator Cruz, this has cut four
It's pretty straightforward. The Republicans have said they'll fund the government.
It's Democrats that want their special goodies in addition to
the the continuing Resolution funding. So it's Democrats who are
throwing their little tantrum, and Senator Cruz is saying, maybe
they should stop stop throwing tantrents.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Play for the real reason we're having the shutdown is
Chuck Schumer is at a political crisis. A couple of
months ago, he agreed to allow the government to stay open,
and his left wing base got furious with him. He
is looking over his left shoulder, terrified that AOC is
going to primary him. And so this is a temper tantrum.
This is Chuck Schumer and the Democrats saying, we hate
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Donald Trump, and we hate Donald Trump so much we
are going to shut the government down. The government will
reopen when Schumer's temper tantrum ends. But this is pure
political theater, trying to guard his left base.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So that's one part of it.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Democrats trying to figure out how to play this when
it comes to their constituencies and what this looks like.
And I like that Senator Cruz goes after the possibility
of an AOC primary. Oh man, wouldn't that be great?
It would be such a fun thing to do to
just just pop the popcorn and watch AOC try to
(20:55):
take Schumer down. And he's got to be thinking about that.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Schumer. He's a guy who say what you will about him.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
He knows how to keep that funding flowing for his
campaigns and he wants to keep that Senate seat. But
AOC would have a big advantage with well, a whole
bunch of things, but certainly with her media profile and
using digital media. This mom, Donny guy, by the way,
New York, I'm worried. I'm worried about what's gonna happen
to you guys. I really am, including my own family
(21:25):
that's there. This mom, Donny guy's a disaster, really truly.
He he'sn't even worse.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I thought he was really bad.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
But the more I'm seeing from him, I think he's
worse than I thought, which I'm not even sure I
knew that was.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Possible, but it is because he is. It's not good.
It's not good.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I think I'm gonna get some fellow Floridians out of
this bargain, some people who are sane, but I know
a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Of people are. It's not as easy as just picking
up and leaving. I was lucky.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I was not yet married, had a mobile job, I
didn't have a kid yet in school, so it was
easy enough for me to move.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I know it's hard for people to just pick up
and move, and they.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Shouldn't have to, right, You shouldn't have to flee some
communist maniac in a state like New York, which is
a great place and has so much going for it.
The city of New York, I should say, which has
so much going for it.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
But here we are.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
There, here's Trump. Let's just let Trump weigh in. This
is cut one on the shutdown and the possibility there
could be some Democrat job cuts from this.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Go for it, but it's all because of the Democrats.
Speaker 9 (22:36):
The Democrats are causing the loss of a lot of
jobs with their it's a shutdown.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
It's their shutdown, not our shutdown. It's their shutdown.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
It is their shutdown, the Schumer shut down, if you will.
They have decided that it is so important for them
to try to get these Obamacare ACA supplemental payments out there.
Let's just make this really easy Obamacare, which is this
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signature achievement, if you can call it that.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
But the main thing.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
That Barack Obama in eight years got done was Obamacare,
as we know, I know, ruining the country and igniting
race riots and all that. Yeah, that too, But the
main thing from a legislative standpoint is Obamacare. And they
promised that this was going to cover everybody and it
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was going to bring cost down. That was really it
was going to cover everybody and bring costs down and
also not explode deficit spending. And what you've seen is
that it was a It has failed on all fronts. Essentially,
it has covered more people, but overwhelmingly through medicaid. Medicaid
(23:57):
is busting budgets in stea all over the country. And
there's the complicated machinery of how these states are funding
these programs and how they're like what they do in
a state like California, they spend in order to get
they spend more to they can get more federal matching dollars.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
They're running all.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Kinds of scams essentially to just create this massive slush
fund and Medicaid. There's so much of it too that
has nothing to do with actual care and.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's a disaster.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
But okay, before we get into all or without even
getting into this state funding of these things, have your
premiums gone up? All of you are saying yes, have
your premiums gone up?
Speaker 7 (24:45):
A lot?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
As in are you in whatever healthcare plan you have
which you weren't allowed to keep? That was the big
promise of obamaca if you like your plan, you can
keep your plan. No, you can't. And on your new plan,
do you have better coverage?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
You don't. Are you paying a lot more for it? Yes?
You are.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Was the whole Obamacare game, other than being a huge
giveaway to really the insurance industry, but was the whole
game that you were subsidizing. It's just a complex scheme
for you to subsidize other people's healthcare. That's what medicaid is.
But that's also what a lot of Obamacare exchanges are
(25:24):
really all about. It is healthcare socialism. It's exactly what
people who were criticizing it, like me at the time,
said it would be. But then you add to that illegals.
You add to that the millions and millions of people
who have come into this country who are illegal aliens,
who are also getting healthcare now in something like emergency
(25:49):
room care. You've seen New York City with its surge.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Of migrants in.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Twenty twenty four, thirty percent of emergency room visits where
legals because they just use it as Okay, now I
have a toothache, I go to the er. I need
prescription glasses. I go to the er and they don't
pay anything, and no one thinks they're going to pay anything.
So that's one part of this, right, But the way
(26:16):
it works is even more complicated and more nefarious, I
would say, than just you having to shoulder the burden
of people coming into this country and making the because
the money comes from somewhere, right, someone is paying.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
For all these illegals.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Oh, and you also pay for it with your time
if you try to go to and this is true
if cities across the country, if you try to go
to the emergency room for an emergency. I know, they
say they do triage, but they're overwhelmed. They got doctors,
and you know, yeah, maybe you get seen before the
illegals if you've got like a you know.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
A stake knife in your shoulder when you come in.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
But if you go in there and you know you're
having a problem and you want to get seen quickly
and it's not like immediate life or death, you got
a whole bunch of illegals who are in there, who
are also being seen, who are being seen ahead of you,
and they're using it, like I said, for non emergency care.
(27:15):
But then you look at what happens in say California,
New York, where they do give they do give health
care to illegals as part of their state programs. Well,
then what California does is find every creative way possible
to make the federal government pay more health care funds
into the state of California, which are then fungible, which
(27:38):
then California uses to cover illegals.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
This is the game.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
And they say, oh, but none of these Obamacare dollars
go to illegals. Okay, but California, the state of California
has a budget, it has money that it spends. And
if California is spending money covering illegals and also taking
federal dollars to shore up whatever wild spending spreees it's
(28:03):
going on with healthcare generally, guess.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
What this is like. When they used to say, remember
that one.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Of the big lies about planned parenthood, with its decades
of murdering babies in the womb, planned paranoid, it was oh, well,
none of the dollars will go remember the high Demendment.
None of the dollars will go toward abortion, only go
toward women's healthcare. If I tell you, hey, you're running,
(28:32):
you need money for your household budget, I'm going to
give you one thousand dollars a month, but only for food.
You can't use it for gas. Well, if I'm giving
you a thousand dollars, what difference does it make. I'm
giving you one thousand dollars, right, whatever, the money that
you were going to be spending on food can now
be used for gas. This is how they play the
(28:53):
game of giving illegals healthcare coverage, and this is why
Democrats are fighting so hard on this issue and why
people like.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Elizabeth Warren Sharp shut he's just shaking her fist.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Here she is when CBS asks her if Democrats want
to provide healthcare to non citizens, this is cut to
listen to what Senator Warren when she goes on the
war path, she's scary.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Listen to what she has to say.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Publicans say, what you're really fighting for is taxpayer dollars for,
as they put it, illegal aliens.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I know that's not strictly true, but there is a provision.
Excuse me, not strictly it's not true, but.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Out why it is a flat out lie the way
that they frame it in Medicaid, there is nothing in
Medicare that permits one undocumented immigrant to get one dollar
of assistance.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
But they get it. And now they've already admitted that
it does happen. They just say it doesn't happen. It's
the classic Democrat sliding scale. It's not happening your line. Okay,
it's happening, but it's not happening that much. You know
where they'll eventually be as people see more than numbers. Okay,
it's happening, and it's a good thing. Shut your face.
Why are you such a racist? That's where we're headed,
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you know, but Elizabeth Warren fired up there, someone better
hands her a peace pipe. Very upset, very unhappy with this.
But people are sick of Remember, our healthcare has gotten
more expensive and worse, and illegals are getting health care
out a whole bunch of ways, and you are paying
for it, and your children and your grandchildren will be
paying for it. And that's wrong. We should not be
(30:35):
the soup kitchen and emergency room for the entire world's poor.
And that's what we are right now. And it's not fair,
it's not right. We have Americans who need help. We
have Americans who are struggling. We have Americans who can't
pay their bills and are behind and have unaffordable bills
from doctors and emergency rooms. Oh but they're expected to
(30:57):
pay them, unlike the illegals. So Trump is on this
fight and should be, and it's the right way to go.
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All right, welcome back in to Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
We should be joined here in just a few moments,
a few minutes, i should say, by Speaker of the
House Johnson. So that will give us the most up
to date possible from the inside of the Capitol and
of this negotiation process on the Schumer shutdown. And I'm
going to ask him some specific questions about exactly what
(32:40):
we were just talking about, what's really at the heart
of this, and why are Democrats so dead set on
Well they set this thing off. Remember, Republicans said, here's
here's the cr let's just keep funding the government.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
No big deal.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Democrats said, no, I want more stuff beyond just funding
the government.
Speaker 9 (33:00):
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Speaker 1 (33:00):
No, you are not in the majority. You do not
have the White House, you do not have the House,
you don't have the Senate.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
What all right?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Government shutdown here? We are time for Democrats to see
the light and be reasonable. Well, that means we could
be waiting a very long time. VIP email from Mike.
I agree with President Trump using the National Guard, but
here's a different approach. Don't go into these Democrat run
cities that are saying they don't need them. Then flood
the TV and radio stations with ads, dating or already
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you are ready to send them into help. But your
Democrat leaders say there's no crime problem if you agree
to keep voting Democrat. If you want law an order,
vote Republican.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Mike.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I like the idea, but I think Trump just wants
to save people and prove the process. Unfortunately, some of
these cities Democrat voters, they just haven't suffered enough. They
will not change their minds. They refuse to see reality.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Think about it.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Lori Lightfoot was a horrible mayor for Chicago, absolutely an incompetent. Uh,
just a disaster, and their crime rate was through the
roof and the riots and the George Floyd stuff and everything.
And then Chicago decided to elect Brandon Johnson, who might
(34:15):
be worse as a mayor. Hard to imagine. People keep saying, Mom,
Donnie's gonna be the worst mayor in America, worse than
Brandon Johnson. Really, I mean that's possible, Mom, Donnie could, Mom,
Donnie could go for the crown here, he could be
the champ. But it's tough. Brandon Johnson's really bad. Is
(34:36):
Ted Wheeler still the mayor of Portland? I remember he
was his Guys, who's the mayor of Portland right now.
I don't know the mayors of every city. I know
a lot of stuff, but I don't know the mayors
of every city. Offhand. It was Wheeler, which was hilarious
because I remember he went down during the George Floyd
Riots and he went down to downtown Portland to tell
Anti fuzz.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
He's like, I'm with you, guys, and they.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Were like, shut up, you you will you know, capular
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Speaker 2 (35:01):
I mean, they absolutely hated his guns. That's the best when.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
You're a cringing, bowing, kneeling, scraping lib politician. Keith Wilson
is the current mayor of Portland, Oregon. I'm sure he's
just I'm sure he is Ted.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Wheeler two point zero. He's got to be. He's got
to be because they're.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Not allowing, not allowing law enforcement to help their federal
counterparts local law enforcement. So that's all you have to
know about so much as a leader as a mayor.
Let's take Lisa calling in from San Antonio, Texas, wants
to chat.
Speaker 9 (35:36):
What's up, Lisa, Well, I'm glad you're back, and I
just wanted to give people some example of what's really
happening in the emergency rooms in the medical centers. My
father fell, he's ninety three and split up in the
back of his head, wasn't seen for four to five
hours after getting to the emergency room because it was
(35:57):
so full and overcrowded. Then he was released until after
midnight that night. That's from eleven am on a Sunday
to after midnight on a Sunday when he finally was
able to be released with staples in his head because
of the overcrowding of the emergency rooms because of the illegals.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, thanks for calling in. Sorry your dad had to
go through that. But this is happening all the time,
all across the country. So you're paying for with your
tax dollars, you're paying for with your time. You're paying
for with your suffering when you're sitting there waiting to
actually get seen in an emergency room, and Democrats want
to tell you there's no problem.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Be quiet.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Sound sounds kind of xenophobic or racist to even care
about all the illegals in these emergency rooms.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
That's what they want to tell you.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
All right, we'll talk to you a speaker Johnson here
in just a few moments about this shutdown. Also, my
interview with the president of Taiwan. Is China getting ready
to invade and why should Americans care about it? And
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