October 6, 2025 • 56 mins
Buck is Back!
Buck returns from an eye-opening trip to Taiwan, sharing firsthand insights into the escalating tensions with China, the looming threat of invasion, and the critical role of TSMC in global semiconductor supply chains. He previews an exclusive interview with Taiwan’s president, President Lai Ching-te, airing later in the program and underscores why U.S. policy in the region matters for national security and the global economy.
Back on the home front, the hour dives deep into the government shutdown and its political implications, followed by a fiery discussion on the immigration enforcement battle. Buck breaks down President Trump’s deployment of Federal Protection Missions and National Guard units to cities like Portland and Chicago, where local and state Democratic leaders are resisting federal immigration law enforcement. He argues that Democrats are enabling lawlessness by refusing to cooperate with ICE and federal authorities, framing this as a fight for the rule of law versus open borders.
Crime is a Choice
Buck zeroes in on the escalating crime crisis in Chicago, contrasting the city’s staggering murder rates with the safety and social trust he observed during his recent trip to Taiwan. He highlights shocking statistics—Chicago averaged around 600 murders annually, compared to just 200 in all of Taiwan, a nation of 23 million people. Buck shares vivid anecdotes from Taipei, where families stroll in parks at night and residents leave smartphones unattended in cafes, illustrating what a high-trust, low-crime society looks like versus the lawlessness plaguing U.S. cities under Democratic leadership.
The discussion then pivots to Mayor Brandon Johnson’s attacks on President Trump, accusing him of waging a “war on poor people” over immigration enforcement and crime reduction efforts. Buck dismantles these claims, arguing that Trump’s deployment of federal resources and National Guard units aims to protect vulnerable communities from gang violence and fentanyl-fueled chaos. He frames the debate as a battle between law and order versus progressive incompetence, calling out Democratic leaders like Johnson and Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker for perpetuating urban decay.
Paying for Illegals
Buck covers the government shutdown standoff, featuring live remarks from White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt and commentary from Texas Senator Ted Cruz. Cruz blasts Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer for what he calls a “temper tantrum” driven by fear of a primary challenge from AOC. Buck underscores that Democrats are demanding additional spending for programs like Obamacare subsidies, sparking a broader conversation on the failures of the Affordable Care Act. He argues Obamacare has led to skyrocketing premiums, reduced coverage, and ballooning Medicaid costs, while Democrats quietly push healthcare benefits for illegal immigrants—despite public denials from figures like Elizabeth Warren.
Speaker Mike Johnson
Speaker of the House Mike Johnson joining the program to break down the latest on what Buck calls the “Schumer Shutdown.” Speaker Johnson explains that Republicans offered a clean continuing resolution to keep the government open, but Democrats blocked it to create a political fight over healthcare. He accuses Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer of prioritizing his own political survival over the American people, citing fears of a primary challenge from the far left.
Johnson details how Democrats are pushing to restore taxpayer-funded healthcare benefits for illegal immigrants, reversing GOP reforms that saved nearly $200 billion by ending Medicaid loopholes, emergency care expansions, and Obamacare subsidies for non-citizens. He warns that the shutdown is causing real pain for Americans, including halted nutrition programs and unpaid federal workers, while Democrats refuse to compromise.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of The Clay Travis N.
Buck Sexton Show. I am back from Taiwan and it
was fascinating play out today on vacation with his family.
Appreciate him holding down the fort last week. The Sexton
Brothers mission to Taiwan was fascinating. We have an interview
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with the President of Taiwan that will air in this
program in the third hour where we get into the
threat from China, which is higher than it has ever been,
the threat of invasion. It's really getting tents over there.
That's one of the reasons, the main reason really why
I wanted to go, so I could see for myself
and learn what is going on. Meetings over there, interviews
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with the President, the Vice president, the National Security Advisor,
members of the National Security Council, senior leadership. From the
trillion dollar TSMC Corporation that's the market cap of it.
I mean, it's one of the most valuable companies in
the world that makes the chips for your phones, my friends.
It is the only manufacturer of the most advanced chips
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that are needed for ai So we talked to TSMC.
I toured a Taiwanese military base discussed preparations for a
possible amphibious invasion. I mean, it was a heck of
a week, I can tell you that, and I'm gonna
bring you as much of those insights as I can
of the course of this week clays out, I believe,
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until Thursday, so we have some time together over the
next couple of days. But so a lot to talk
about with respect to Taiwan and China. It really does matter.
It is incredibly important. It is something that we as
a country need to make sure we understand and we
avoid a massive war in the east. That's the real
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problem here. That's what we're trying to tackle because it
would crash the markets and cause huge problems or global
supply chain for technology. My friends, it is the flash
point right now, and I hope that things stay calm
and peaceful and status quo reigns over there, and we
have a big hand in it. Anyway, I will get
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more into that. I know, first and foremost we are
looking here at what's going on at home. On the
home front. We have Oh boy, the shutdown happened. We
are in a shutdown, and it is not in fact,
dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria, but it is
interesting to see what Democrats place their priorities on. We
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will have the Speaker of the House, number three in
line for the presidency, Speaker Johnson set to join us
also in the third hour of the program. It's a
pre pac third hour, Speaker of the House Representatives, President
of Taiwan. We've got a big show for you, my friends.
So we'll discuss the shutdown negotiations, the latest on that
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with the Speaker of the House. So that then brings
me to the showdown over water being called federal protection missions.
I was following this from Afar twelve hours behind in
Oh no, I'm sorry, twelve hours ahead rather in Taiwan,
so watching the news from a distance and in a
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different timeframe. But certainly this showdown over the deployment of
these federal protection missions to different American cities is really
a big deal. It matters tremendously for the immigration enforcement mission,
which is central to the Trump administration agenda, but it
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also goes to sovereignty and the rule of law as
general principles in this country. Do we have rule of
law or not? Let me just take a step back
here for a moment. Democrats at every turn have insisted
that state governments, wherever they have control, state governments do
nothing to help and if possible, even thwart federal law enforcement.
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And they will when they Democrats are in charge of
federal government power, they will refuse help from the state government.
So it is the policy of the Democrat party to
undermine immigration law always at all times. When they have
the federal government they don't want, they will not accept
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help from the state. In fact, you will recall under
the disastrous Biden administration, they were telling Texas that Texas,
as a state on the border, was not allowed to
set up barriers to illegal entry. They forced Texas to
remove barriers to make it easier for the ten million plus.
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I keep saying plus because I don't maybe it was
twelve million with the Godaways. We don't know. Ten million
plus illegals piling into the country. Under Biden a decision
made by the Democrats to undermine our sovereignty, to be
lawless and reckless as a party, top down, the decision
was made to do this. And now that we have
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the Trump administration saying okay, we're actually going to enforce
the law, Democrats try to stop it at every point
at every juncture, and you're seeing this once again. If
they had any actual courage of their convictions, why don't
they just come out and say they're for open borders.
Let's really just get down to this. Democrats do not
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want enforcement of our immigration laws. They don't want border security,
they don't want deportations. They want to have the continuous
importation of the third World, of developing countries, of people
who don't speak English, who don't obey our laws. The
first act they commit on our soil is a violation
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of our laws at our sovereignty. And they do this
because they view America as something that needs radical change
with Democrats in charge, and the only way they can
achieve that, achieve that is to import non American voters.
Buy the millions, Buy the millions. This is the game plan,
this is what they do. Trump is trying to not
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only stop the inflow, but create an outflow of illegals
scent packing as are federal law states, they should be.
Let's be very clear about this. There's a lot of
talk about prioritization, about who can stay and who can go,
and oh my gosh, you know they're sending away this
Grandma who's been here for all these years. If you're
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here illegally, you are subject to deportation. That is federal law.
If Democrats don't like that, then Democrats in the House
and the Senate should try to change it. But what
they do is lie and say, oh, no, we're for
immigration laws, but we just want to make sure that
they're never actually enforced. They want to have it both ways.
They want to play this double game. Enough is enough.
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So Trump is forcing their hand because what you see
in Portland, what you see in Chicago, and the state
actions from Democrats controlling both proves my thesis beyond any doubt.
It is exactly what I have been saying and am
saying to you. That's what's going on. And you see
it with these federal protection missions. Now Portland, which unfortunately
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has for a long time been Antifa Stan, Antifa just
gets to show up, run rough shot, Mayhem, anarchy, do
whatever they want. Portland is Antifa Stan, as we know.
And they have these demonstrations and an Immigration and Customs
Enforcement facility, their ice facility there, demonstrations play where they're riots.
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You know, they're they're they're impeding law enforcement. They're getting
in the way there, there was the car being rammed
into Ice recently. I mean, they're doing all this crazy
stuff to stop law enforcement from conducting its duties. This
is lawlessness, This is unacceptable. And the fact that state
and local law enforcement, because this is a Democrat enclave,
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a Democrat fiefdom, the fact that state and local law
enforcement refuses to assist, refuses to provide backup, is all
the indication that anybody should need that the federal government
needs to double down and send reinforcements. That's what this
Federal Protection Mission is. President Trump, this is cut twelve.
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Spoke about the situation in Portland.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Listen, Portland's different. That's a bunch of paid insurrections. But
you have a lot of pay people in Chicago. Do
I believe the politicians are under threat because there's.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
No way somebody can say that things are one to
vote in Chicago, almod fifty five I think it was
fifty five people over a short third of times have
been murdered in Chicago, has been shot. Two hundred and
twenty two people over short have been hit, have been wounded,
(09:03):
not died, but fifty five people died over a short
pirit dumit you're telling me there's no city in the
world like that.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
We're going to straight it down. And I think that Pritzker,
he's not a stupid person. I think that Pritzker's afread
for his life.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Here we have Trump continuing to push on these issues
where I think he not only is right legally and morally,
but also politically because Democrats don't want things to get better.
They stand in the way of progress on bringing the
crime numbers down, murders down in Chicago, and immigration enforcement
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in Chicago, which is another big issue right now. They're saying, oh,
these they keep calling them militarized raids. They're antagonizing the
New York Times and Chicago Tribute and the Washington Post.
They're constantly inflaming and antagonizing the public, lying to the
public about the nature of these This is what is
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lawful for these ice officers to do. They are allowed
to go into areas and enforce our laws. Democrats cannot
get away with this game anymore. We cannot allow this
where they say, well, we support immigration forces, but I
don't like the way they're doing it. They're being really
mean in this area as they do it. What do
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they want to have happen here. You've got people that
don't want to go back to their own country, their
actual home country, their country of citizenship, and they are
fighting against it. Sometimes they are resisting arrest, they are
trying to evade law enforcement. Enough is enough. Democrats showed
us who they are underbided. They are an open borders party.
They are a bunch of liars. They cannot win. They
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show me one Democrat who can debate this issue with
someone like me, someone who's fired up and knowledgeable and
has been following it for now a decade very closely.
It doesn't exist because they're We've all seen that they
are lying. And that's why in Oregon it's really Portland
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is the issue. But within the Oregon state government this
is getting a lot of attention. A bunch of communists,
unfortunately run that place just like they run Portland. And
then Illinois. I feel bad if Pritzker is the governor
of Illinois, but really he's like the Viceroy of Chicago
because it's the Chicago political machine that controls the rest
of the state. There's a lot of nice places in Illinois,
(11:30):
with plenty of sane people. It's just Chicago is run
by the crazies. And so you have the Mayor of Chicago,
Brandon Johnson, the governor of Illinois, like I say, the
Viceroy of Chicago Pritzker, who also wants to step up
for leadership of the Democrat Party. You have all of
them coming together trying to again inflame the public and
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stop Trump from doing what he needs to do or
what he seeks to do here in these places. And
it's just madness. I think people have seen this. Now
you have a federal judge Sunday Night has blocked the
Trump administration from deploying National Guard, or has put out
an order to block the National Guard, I should say.
And now today Illinois has sued the Trump administration over
(12:16):
Guard deployments. And so you got a couple of states
that are saying, no, you're not allowed to help with
enforcement of immigration. You cannot use federal resources in our
state to help with immigration enforcement and also to help
with crime. Not allowed to do it. This is lawlessness.
This is a critical fight. It's one where Trump is
(12:38):
right and has to continue. So I'll give you more
of this. By the way, I want to remind everybody
while these judges are coming forward to say Hey, you
can't do this. There's no need for this. There was
another time when there was National Guard deployed and there
was no need for it. That Democrats made a very
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big deal of deployed the national Guard and it was absurd,
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Speaker 1 (14:08):
Welcome in Everybody's second hour of play in Buck kicks
off right now. So we's talked a lot about Portland
in the first hour of program, and these dueling issues
of immigrations and customs enforcement particularly and lawlessness in Portland,
and then similar situation in Chicago. Ice facilities under siege,
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Democrats wanting illegals to just be able to continue to
break our laws with impunity. That's not how the law works, lives.
But there's also just the crime issue and homicides, murders,
as salts, robberies, all of that, and the situation in
Chicago where you have still a very high overall murder rate.
(14:54):
It's America's third largest city. It's a beautiful city. I
love Chicago as a place, and it's got a lot
of great people. It's got wonderful food and architecture, and
there's you know, a lot of things going for Chicago.
Here it's a little cold in the winter, but a
lot of things going for Chicago. Sorry, I'm from Miami now,
so I get to say these things. Little chili in
January in Chicago, but I hear it's a lovely place overall,
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and I had I've only been there once and I
had a great experience, I must say. But there's too
much crime. And the mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, is
an incompetent and is only making things worse there, and
he sees this as his chance to square off against
Donald Trump, so he's going after the President. Remember, the
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President wants to make safe the city of Chicago for
all residents. In doing so, using federal law enforcement resources
in federal support to make it make their fewer murders
and to make it safe for on the streets of Chicago.
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It would disproportionately help minorities because there are more black
residents of Chicago who are shot and killed than anyone else,
and so it is actually a great service to the
predominantly black areas of the city of Chicago to bring
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the crime rate down. It's very small percentage of people
who are doing a very large percentage of the violent crime,
and of those crimes, the targets the victims are largely
disproportionately black. We all know these numbers. We've all talked
about this. Meanwhile, Mayor Johnson, this is cut twenty three,
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is attacking Trump for these efforts. Play it a double
minded man.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
He is unstable in every way possible, unhinged and unhealthy.
The idea of described the American people as enemies from
within is clearly not just a sign of authoritarianism. He
has totally imbibed the full spirit of tyranny, and our
cities are not training ground for the military. In fact,
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even the notion to suggest that the brave women and
men who sign up to serve this country, to fight
terrorism around the globe, to protect our way of existence,
turning neighbors on their own neighbors is not only unconstitutional,
it is reprehensible.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
It is reprehensible. Huh, Mayor of Chicago is shameless. We
all understand what President Trump is trying to do here,
and he's trying to make Chicago safer. Let's look at
some of the Let's turn to the numbers. Shall we
last year twenty twenty four, that's the last year for
which we have full numbers. Chicago had five hundred and
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seventy three murders. Now that's the first time since twenty
nineteen that the number was under six hundred Chicago in
twenty twenty one. Let me just see the twenty twenty
one had pulling it up as I talked to you. Wow,
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in ninety four, there were nine hundred and thirty murders.
That's a lot. Seven hundred and seventy eight murders in
twenty twenty. Seven hundred and seventy eight murders in just
the city of Chicago in twenty twenty. Now, I just
got back, as you know, from Taiwan. I was on
a fact finding expedition there on a whole range of things,
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mostly on the national security and economic front, because Taiwan
is critical for well the world actually on those issues.
And I'll be explaining more of that. But how many
murders do you think Taiwan's a country of twenty three
million people? How many murders you think Taiwan had last year?
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See about two hundred in the whole country of twenty
three million people. There are two million people in Chicago,
and Chicago had seven hundred and seventy eight murders in
twenty twenty last year. I know, let's say it's so
let's say they're running at about six hundred murders a
year on average for the last few years, because it's
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usually above six hundred, we'll be generous, We'll say about
six hundred murders. So Chicago, a city of two million,
has three times the total murder rate of the entire
nation of Taiwan with twenty three million people, with multiple
cities that have over two million people. I think we
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can see what's going on here. Right. You might be thinking, well,
what is it like to be and I hadn't had
this experience in quite some time, what's it like to
be in a place that feels really safe. Well, when
I was walking through a park at about ten o'clock
at night, a public park in the downtown of Taipei,
the main city, there were families in the park at night,
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just enjoying, you know, because it's nice and warm there.
It's very similar climate actually to South Florida. It's nice
and warm there. And they all they had was some
lamps providing an ambient light from the city. It's quite
a city type but you had families sitting on the
park benches in the playgrounds, just like as if it
was broad daylight. There's no concern about I can't be
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in a park at night because bad things will happen.
And there are little kids running around playing, parents sitting
on the benches watching for afar. And I had people
writing to me, oh, buck, but it's like that in
my town in South Dakota, or it's like that, you know,
in my town of five hundred people in you know,
South Carolina or something. And I'm like, okay, yeah, that's nice.
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But this is a city of millions of people, millions
of people consolidated together in one place, and they and
it's as safe as a town of a few thousands
in a very red rural part of America. It is
as safe as that. So you say, well, it must
be possible. One of the other anecdotes I have for this,
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which I thought was so interesting, was that people would
do this thing where you would be in a cafe
and they would put their phone down, and I would
say to myself, wait a second. They'd get up to
go to the bathroom and they would leave their phone
at the you know, their one thousand dollars, iPhone or
whatever at their seat. I had never seen this before, right,
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I would When I lived in Midtown Manhattan, I was
worried that somebody was going to reach into my pocket
when I was sitting there drinking my coffee and try
to take my phone. They leave their phone there to
mark their seat, to save their seat while they go
to the bathroom, and no one this is what you'd interesstand.
I asked some of the locals about this. No one
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thinks this is odd. They're like, yeah, of course they
want ever to know. It's like if you're at a
buffet at a hotel and you know, you leave your
your napkin on the tables. Everybody knows that you're sitting there.
They do that with their smartphone in public places where
people are coming and going on the street, No big deal.
High trust society a place where people do not have
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to be worried, do not have to be concerned about
crime because it is not a realistic concern for them. Now.
I'm not saying we're going to be able to turn
Chicago into Taipei in terms of safety and security. It
would be nice, but that's not gonna happen. I do
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point it out, though, because we should know what is possible.
We should know that there are cities with millions of
people living together where there is basically no concern whatsoever
about crime, and then use that as a comparison to
say Chicago, where there is far too much crime for
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far too long. It doesn't have to be this way.
Crime is a choice. Society makes a choice about how
much crime it will tolerate. But crime is a choice.
We don't have to deal with things the way that
they are. And unfortunately, what you see from the Mayor
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of Chicago and from Governor Pritzker is they don't want
it to get better. They want this status quo. The
same way that the Taiwanese people. And I say, I
love Taiwan, and I love the Taiwanese people. They really
endeared themselves to be topped about. Everybody I dealt with there.
Everyone is so polite and considerate and friendly, and it's
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just a great place. It's a great place the same
way that they are proud, and they should be because
I talked to them. They kind of giggle, they laugh
when I'm saying, well, you got it's so safe here.
How is this little old ladies walking around midnight by
themselves on the streets, not a care in the world. Kids,
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I didn't see. I didn't take the subway there. I
took their high speed trains to get around the countryside
because I had some places I had to go. But
they do, they do have people. We'll get on these trains.
I thought I was sitting in the quiet car. If
you've ever taken the Acella from DC to or Boston
down to d C with the New York stop, I
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thought I was in the quiet car. No, that's just
people are just quiet and respectful. They're not all, you know,
playing their iPhones on speaker phone. They're not all shouting,
they're not all loud talking. I thought I was in
a quiet car. I was just in a Taiwanese railcar.
People just all being respectful. And there's no trash. They're
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trash anywhere. I mean, whether in the high speed train
or on the streets, there's no litter. Isn't that amazing?
It turns out you don't have to have people just
dropping their you know, their big mac rappers wherever they're walking.
It doesn't have to be that way, and we could
all be in a place that is much safer in
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this country, in the big cities, if we were willing
to make the necessary decisions as a society, you get
the crime you tolerate. It is not a given. It
is not Oh, there's no way out of this status quo.
But when you have people like Mayor Johnson who don't
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want it to get better, it won't get better. You
are locked into this. Here, this is cut twenty four.
Here he is saying that really, this is about a
war on poor people that Trump is waging.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Play it.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
This is not about deportation, This is not about community safety.
This is quite frankly, this is about for profit. You know,
we know that there is an investigation right now that's
underway with Tom Holman, who took fifty thousand dollars, fifty
thousand dollars from two FBI agents because Tom Holman made
a promise to direct contracts to the very people who
(26:17):
are running these detention centers, who actually gave over almost
three million dollars to President Trump's campaign.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
The president of the United States of America.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Has declared war on poor people. And if there was
ever a time for working people to stand up across
this world, the time is now.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
What a just rabble rousing, lying jerk. This guy is
war on poor people. Trump's trying to keep keep poor
people from getting shot walking to the grocery store. He's
trying to keep children from catching a bullet from some
gang banger who can aim and doesn't care shooting it
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out with some other gang bang over who gets to
sell fentonl murdering people in the streets. Trump wants to
stop that, and the Mayor of Chicago thinks that he's
the good guy here. He thinks that Trump's waging a
war on poor people. No, the war on poor people
is from incompetent democrats like the mayor of Chicago. The
war on poor people is from less left wing race
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hustling democrats who don't want to take the necessary steps,
who don't want to do what they can do to
save lives and make those city streets safer. It could
be a heck of a lot better than it is,
and Trump's trying to make it so. And you know,
I'll be honest with you so much about this country
I am so proud of. I do think we're the
greatest country in the world. I know we have our problems.
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I love America though I truly do. When you come
home from being abroad, it reminds you how much you
love this place. But it is embarrassing how much crime
there is in our Democrat cities like New York, where
I used to live in. Though Chicago's way worse than
New York. It's embarrassing because it doesn't have to be
this way. And the leadership that says that it is,
whether it's Pritzker or Johnson or any of these Democrats,
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you vote for them, you get more of it. It's
that straightforward, it's that simple. Trump's trying to save people,
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and Buck. We have the White House addressing the shutdown
and other questions right now. But on the shutdown issue,
here's here's where things stand. Democrats, I think that they
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are finding this is not breaking the way for them
that they have wanted it to. They in general think
that shutdowns are something that favors Democrats, probably because they
have the media in their back pocket. But here, here,
let let's get into some of this. Ted Cruz, for example,
(30:27):
Senator Cruz, this has cut four. It's pretty straightforward. The
Republicans have said they'll fund the government. It's Democrats that
want their special goodies in addition to the continuing resolution funding.
So it's Democrats who are throwing their little tantrum, and
Senator Cruz is saying, maybe they should stop stop throwing tantrents.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
Play for the real reason we're having the shutdown is
Chuck Schumer is at a political crisis. A couple of
months ago, he agreed to allow the government to stay open,
and his left wing base got furious with him. He
is looking over his left shoulder, terrified that AOC is
going to primary him, and so this is a temper tantrum.
This is Chuck Schumer and the Democrats saying we hate
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Donald Trump, and we hate Donald Trump so much we
are going to shut the government down. The government will
reopen when Schumer's temper tantrum ends. But this is pure
political theater, trying to guard his left base.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
So that's one part of it. Democrats trying to figure
out how to play this when it comes to their
constituencies and what this looks like. And I like that
Senator Cruz goes after the possibility of an AOC primary.
Oh man, wouldn't that be great. It would be such
a fun thing to do to just just pop the
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popcorn and watch AOC try to take Schumer down. And
he's got to be thinking about that. Schumer, he's a
guy who say what you will about him. He knows
how to keep that funding flowing for his campaigns, and
he wants to keep that Senate seat. Would have a
big advantage with well, a whole bunch of things, but
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certainly with her media profile and using digital media. This mom,
Donny guy, by the way, New York, I'm worried. I'm
worried about what's gonna happen to you guys. I really am,
including my own family that's there. This mom, Donny guy's
a disaster. Really truly, he he'sn't even worse. I thought
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he was really bad, But the more I'm seeing from him,
I think he's worse than I thought, which I'm not
even sure I knew that was possible, but it is
because he is. It's not good. It's not good. I
think I'm gonna get some fellow Floridians out of this bargain,
some people who are sane, but I know a lot
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of people are. It's not as easy as just picking
up and leaving. I was lucky. I was not yet married,
had a mobile job, I didn't have a kid yet
in school, so it was easy enough for me to move.
I know it's hard for people to just pick up
and move. You wouldn't have to, right, You shouldn't have
to flee some communist maniac in a state like New York,
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which is a great place and has so much going
for it. The city of New York, I should say,
which has so much going for it. But here we are,
here's Trump. Let's just let Trump weigh in. This is
cut one on the shutdown and the possibility there could
be some Democrat job cuts from this, go for it.
Speaker 9 (33:24):
But it's all because of the Democrats. The Democrats are
causing the loss of a lot of jobs with their
it's a shutdown. It's their shutdown, not our shutdown. It's
their shutdown.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
It is their shutdown, the Schumer shut down, if you will.
They have decided that it is so important for them
to try to get these Obamacare ACA supplemental payments out there.
Let's just make this really easy. Obamacare, which is the
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signature achievement, if you can call it that. But the
main thing that Barack Obama in eight years got done
was Obamacare. As we know, I know, ruining the country
and igniting race riots and all that. Yeah, that too,
But the main thing from a legislative standpoint is Obamacare.
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And they promised that this was going to cover everybody,
and it was going to bring cost down. That was
really It was going to cover everybody and bring costs
down and also not explode deficit spending. And what you've
seen is that it was a It has failed on
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all fronts. Essentially, it has covered more people, but overwhelmingly
through medicaid. Medicaid is busting budgets in states all over
the country, and there's the complicated machinery of how these
states are funding these programs and how they're like what
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they do in a state like California, they spend in
order to get they spend more to they can get
more federal matching dollars. They're running all kinds of scams
essentially to just create this massive slush fund and medicaid.
There's so much of it too that has nothing to
do with actual care and it's a disaster. But okay,
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before we get into all or without even getting into
this state funding of these things, have your premiums gone up?
All of you are saying yes, have your premiums gone
up a lot? As in, are you in whatever healthcare
plan you have which you weren't allowed to keep? That
was the big promise of Obamacare. If you like your plan,
you can keep your plan? No you can't. And on
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your new plan, do you have better coverage? No you don't.
Are you paying a lot more for it? Yes? You are.
Was the whole Obamacare game, other than being a huge
giveaway to the insurance industry, but was the whole game
that you were subsidizing. It's just a complex scheme for
you to subsidize other people's healthcare. That's what Medicaid is.
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But that's also what a lot of Obamacare exchanges are
really all about. It is healthcare socialism. It's exactly what
people who were criticizing it, like me at the time,
said it would be. But then you add to that illegals.
You add to that the millions and millions of people
who have come into this country who are illegal aliens,
(36:35):
who are also getting healthcare now in something like emergency
room care. You've seen New York City with its surge
of migrants. In twenty twenty four, thirty percent of emergency
room visits were illegals because they just use it as Okay,
now I have a toothache, I go to the er.
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I need prescription glasses. I go to the er and
they don't pay anything, and no one thinks they're going
to pay anything. So that's one part of this, right,
But the way it works is even more complicated and
more nefarious, I would say, than just you having to
shoulder the burden of people coming into this country and
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making the because the money comes from somewhere, right, someone
is paying for all these illegals. Oh and you also
pay for it with your time. If you try to
go to and this is true of cities across the country.
If you try to go to the emergency room for
an emergency, I know, they say they do triage, but
they're overwhelmed. They got doctors, and you know, yeah, maybe
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you get seen before the illegals if you've got like
a you know, a stake knife in your shoulder when
you come in. But if you go in there and
you know you're having a problem, you want to get
seen quickly, and it's not like immediate life or death.
You got a whole bunch of illegals who are in there,
who are also being seen, who are being seen ahead
of you, and they're using it, like I said, for
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non emergency care. But then you look at what happens
in say California, New York, where they do give they
do give health care to illegals as part of their
state programs. Well, then what California does is find every
creative way possible to make the federal government pay more
(38:24):
health care funds into the state of California, which are
then fungible, which then California uses to cover illegals. This
is the game. And they say, oh, but none of
these Obamacare dollars go to illegals. Okay, but California, the
state of California has a budget. It has money that
it spends. And if California is spending money covering illegals
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and also taking federal dollars to shore up whatever wild
spending spreees it's going on with healthcare generally, guess what
this is like. When they used to say, remember one
of the big lies about planned parenthood, with its decades
of murdering babies in the womb, planned paranoid, it was, oh, well,
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none of the dollars will go remember the High Demendment.
None of the dollars will go toward abortion, only go
toward women's healthcare. If I tell you, hey, you're running,
you need money for your household budget, I'm going to
give you one thousand dollars a month, but only for food.
(39:31):
You can't use it for gas. Well, if I'm giving
you one thousand dollars, what difference does it make. I'm
giving you one thousand dollars, right, whatever, The money that
you were going to be spending on food can now
be used for gas. This is how they play the
game of giving illegals healthcare coverage. And this is why
Democrats are fighting so hard on this issue and why
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people like Elizabeth Warren so upsehut, he's just shaking her fist.
Here's is when CBS asks her if Democrats want to
provide healthcare to non citizens, this is cut to listen
to what Senator Warren, when she goes on the war path,
she's scary. Listen to what she has to say. Publicans say,
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what you're really fighting for is taxpayer dollars for, as
they put it, illegal aliens.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
I know that's not strictly true, but there is a provision.
Speaker 10 (40:21):
Excuse me, not strictly it's not true, but out lie.
It is a flat out.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
Lie the way that they frame it.
Speaker 10 (40:31):
In Medicaid. There is nothing in Medicare that permits one
undocumented immigrant to get one dollar of assistance.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
But they get it. And now they've already admitted that
it does happen, they just say it doesn't happen. It's
the classic Democrat sliding scale. It's not happening, you're lying. Okay,
it's happening, but it's not happening that much. You know
where they'll eventually be as people see more than numbers. Okay,
it's happening, and it's a good thing. Shut your face.
Why are you such a racist? That's where we're headed,
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you know. But Elizabeth Warren fired up there, Someone better
hands her a piece pipe. Very upset, very unhappy with this.
But people are sick of Remember, our healthcare has gotten
more expensive and worse, and illegals are getting health care
at a whole bunch of ways, and you are paying
for it, and your children and your grandchildren will be
paying for it, and that's wrong. We should not be
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the soup kitchen and emergency room for the entire world's poor.
And that's what we are right now. And it's not fair,
it's not right. We have Americans who need help. We
have Americans who are struggling. We have Americans who can't
pay their bills and are behind and have unaffordable bills
from doctors and emergency rooms. Oh, but they're expected to
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pay them, unlike the illegals. So Trump is on this
fight and should be, and it's the right way to go.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
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Speaker 1 (43:08):
Speaker of the House, Speaker Johnson is with us now.
Mister Speaker, appreciate you making the time we can discuss
some shutdown and other issues.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
Buck great to be with you. I look forward to
that interview. That's timely stuff with Taiwan. We watch it
very closely, so I'm glad you got to go over
there and see it first.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
An thank you. Yeah, please do listen in. He had
a I asked him, I said, what's your message directly
to President Trump? People should know that we don't have
an embassy there. We don't have direct high level meetings
with the government of Taiwan. So getting the word around
I think is really important because things are heating up
with China. But in the meantime, mister Speaker, just bring
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us up to the latest here on are we calling
it the Schumer shutdown? I am, but what's the latest
on this government shutdown? What's happening?
Speaker 6 (43:55):
Yeah? I wish there were more developments to report, but
we're stuck at a stalemate. It is the Schumer Democrat shutdown.
And I did a little press conference this morning, just
trying to lay out once again reiterating the simple truths.
I mean, the truth has been obscured by all these Democrats.
They're relentless efforts at spinning what everybody knows to be true.
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I mean, look, this is a clean, continuing resolution, and
what we mean by that is there's no part of provisions,
and it no tricks, no gimmicks. We're just simply trying
to keep the lights on. Because as we were going
through the appropriations process, we ran out of clock because
the end of the fiscal year September thirtieth and not
the end of the calendar year at December thirty one,
so we needed more time. And Chuck Schumer's always been
(44:38):
a champion of the ars. He never wanted to shut
down the government because he knows how dangerous it is.
And I mean, but roll the tape. I mean, he
gave the most impassioned speeches on this very subject in
March of this year. This is like six months ago.
But something changed, and I'm trying to point out to
everybody this is very simple. It comes down to Chuck
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covering his own tail.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
All right, Well, so let's there's the politics of this
for Schumer, which because I want to talk about healthcare
piece too. But your friend on the Republican side of
the Senate, Senator Cruz brought this up that there is
some specific political calculation here for Chuck Schumer. Can you
just elucidate elaborate on that a little bit.
Speaker 6 (45:22):
I'll elaborate as briefly as I can, because it's pretty simple. Look,
Chuck Schumer is a far left progressive politician. Everybody knows
that he's been in Congress for forty four years. Brother,
at most of our lives, right, he's been serving here,
But it's.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Actually longer than I've been alive, mister speaker.
Speaker 6 (45:38):
But yeah, there you go, all right, Yeah, I was
gonna all right, all right, so I'm giving myself a
little credit here, But look, all of your life he's
been here, Okay, But he is yesterday's news. He's the
last generation of leadership. He's seventy four years old now,
and he's no longer the cool kid. Here's the problem,
Chuck Schumer has, plain and simple, the Marxister now running
(45:58):
New York. That's his state. They're about to elect Mom Damie,
an open Marxist, to be the mayor of America's largest city.
Cheff Schumer is terrified by that because he knows that
he's going to get a challenge from his left and
his next Senate reelection bid, and that's probably could be
AOC or somebody else, but it's almost a guarantee at
this point, and he's almost guaranteed to lose. So he's
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got to show a fight against Trump. They didn't have
any fight to show because again, we have a clean
fe r to keep the government open. So they concocted
this faux issue. They're trying to argue that this is
suddenly a debate about healthcare. Never was. This is about
simple funding, a simple funding measure. The healthcare debate is
for the three months ahead of us going into the
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end of the year. That's the calculation. All this, all
the pain inflicted upon the American people, is to cover
one guy's political future. And his name is Chuff Schumer,
and he happens to leave the Democrats in the Senate.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Now we've got that political piece of this. Can you
dive a little more into the the healthcare for illegals
debate that has just been all over and I was
on the other side of the world and trying to
follow it from from Taiwan last week. But this has
been a major issue. Democrats seem to be taking multiple
(47:15):
positions at the same time on it. Oh, it never happens.
It only happens a little bit. It happens sometimes, but
it's a good thing. What is the truth about the
concerns that illegal immigrants, legal aliens in this country are accessing,
even indirectly, federal dollars for healthcare?
Speaker 6 (47:33):
Thank you. There's a couple of very important facts that
are irrefutable, and I laid them out in my prescotte
this morning. That's all on social media. But here's the thing. Okay,
the Democrats have been wanting to give taxpayer funded benefits
to illegals, and they actually did it. We know that.
Go back to rerund to twenty twenty, to the presidential
debate stage when everybody was trying to get the Democrat nomination,
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and they asked all of them in that debate, raise
your hand if you would like to give taxpayer funded
benefits and healthcare to illegal aliens. Every single Democrat candidate
on the stage raised their hand, including Joe Biden and
Kamala Harris. So when they got elected, they did that
for four years. They used all the forces of the
government and they expanded all these programs to illegals. We
fixed it, Buck, We passed the one big beautiful bill.
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Republicans got control and last November of Congress and we
pushed through the American the Working Family's tax cuts. Okay,
And in that bill, we reversed all that nonsense. We
took the health care benefits away from illegals. It was
never intended. Medicaid was never intended for non US citizens,
and we fixed it. So what Chuck Schumer did, because
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remember they needed a political issue now it's a fight
of her healthcare. They fought this monstrosity of a counterproposal
just to keep the lights on, just to keep the
government open. They are demanding now that we spend one
point five trillion dollars of additional taxpayer funds on big
liberal priorities. Included in that is reversing the chain as
we made and restoring taxpayer funded healthcare to illegal aliens.
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In fact, it is a fact. Go to the website
Speaker dot gov. Pull it up for yourself. Don't take
my words for it. Go look at Chuck Schimbers document
that he filed in the Congressional record. We have highlighted
their page fifty seven Sestion twenty one forty one that
does exactly what I just said.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Now, can you just explain this. We're speaking to a
Speaker of the House Johnson here. How does that mechanism work?
As in, what is the process through which illegals are
accessing federal dollars for their healthcare? Or how is the
state playing budgetary games in this case, states like California
(49:44):
and New York in order to give illegal aliens healthcare
that is funded in some way by the federal government.
Speaker 6 (49:52):
Well, there's a number of ways that's done. And it's
a great question, and there is an exhibit right there
on that website speaker dot gov that shows you this
in a simple chart. Okay, the Democrat Continuing Resolution Chuck
Schumer's gambit here would spend nearly two hundred billion dollars
of American taxpayer funds on healthcare subsidies for illegal immigrants
(50:12):
and other non citizens. And what are we talking about.
There's six specific ways they do it. We reversed them
all in the Working Families Tax God Act, the one
big beautiful bill. And the quick summary of what they
are is we in our bill, we ended medicaid funding
for most non citizens. That's about six point two billion
dollars in savings. We ended the emergency care for illegal
(50:35):
aliens that had been expanded. Believe it or not, California,
for example, expanded Medicaid to cover able bodied illegal alien adults,
and in the process of all this, we call that
the California loophole. We ended that they also were literally
hospitals were being reimbursed more for treating illegal aliens in
(50:55):
an emergency room than American citizens, but while pregnant and
American single women. I mean, it's it's just madness. Okay.
We took all that out. We reversed the fraud, waste,
abuse in Medicaid, Medicare, Obamacare funding for most non citizens,
these special rules they put in, and Obamacare for immigrants.
You add it all up, it's one hundred and ninety
two point eight billion dollars. Okay. We reversed that into
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big beautiful bill and check Schimmer on phase fifty seven
of his counterproposal c R would reverse all of it.
It's a fact. They can't refute it. Not a single
one of them have done it on TV or radio anywhere.
They cannot. As John Adam said, facts are suborn things.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
And yet here we are. What are we six days
into this shutdown? Seven six days something like that? What
is yours? Yeah, what is your sense, mister speaker for
where this is going? And also can you speak to
mister speaker the possibility of not just furloughs, but some
trimmed federal jobs as a result of this shutdown. Where
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does that? Where does that lie?
Speaker 6 (52:01):
Well, there's two good and important questions I think with
regard to when does this end? As soon as we
get a handful, we need five or six additional Democrats
in the Senate to come to their senses and stop
the madness. They've always voted for CRS in the past.
They need to recognize real Americans being hurt here. I
reminded everybody in the press commerce this morning. I said,
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basic civics. You'll remember, we don't have enough Republican votes
to get out of this mess, because you need sixty
votes in the Senate. Our problem is we only have
fifty three Republicans there. So you've got to have Democrats
that get off of this plank that they've walked themselves
on and do the right thing for the people. So
we'll see it goes probably at least another week. They've
painted themselves into a corner. But with regard to the
(52:43):
real pain, brother, real.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Mister speaker, hold on a sec did you move somewhere
because our cell are We had a beautiful, beautiful crystal
clear cell connection and then it got a little bit
a little bit funky there for a second, so I
could get you to either step to the other side
of your office wherever you were, hopefully maybe the connection
will just clear up. Go for it.
Speaker 6 (53:00):
Yeah, is that a little better?
Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yes, it is. There we go crystal clear. Keep going.
Speaker 6 (53:04):
Okay, I think it's the Russians. They're securing our thing
from the capitol here, so listen. So here's the deal.
We're in this situation and it's causing real pain to
real American people. You're talking about you know, infant women,
infants and children that have their nutrition subsidies, their supplemental
nutrition being halted. Right now. You've got health services to veterans,
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You've got our troops and our border patrol agents and TSA.
They're all working to protect Americans with no pay right now.
I mean, it just goes on and on and on,
so real pain by real people. The question is how
long are the Senate Democrats going to allow this to
go on? And you know, among all those those pain points,
(53:45):
there's a lot of things involved. Now you talked about
the furlough of federal workers, Russ vote. Our good friend
runs the Office of Management and Budget and the Trump administration.
His job is to scale down the government because Chuck
Schumer decided to turn off the funding streams. He has
an choice in the matter. He takes no pleasure in it,
but he has to sit down and evaluate everything the
federal government does and Trio you right, You've got to
(54:07):
determine what are the most essential services, policy personnel that
we carry on and which are less so. And anybody
who's in his position in any administration of these circumstances
has that responsibility. If falls to our friend Russ, we
pray that he uses wisdom and discernment, but you know
he has no choice in the matter.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
Mister Spaker, appreciate you making the time for us, sir.
Speaker 6 (54:31):
You got it, brother, Take care.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
Man. He's Democrats. It's funny, the more the truth gets out,
the worse their position looks, not just on this, pretty
much on everything, but on this it is absolutely the case.
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Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of The Clay Travis N.
Buck Sexton Show. I am back from Taiwan and it
was fascinating play out today on vacation with his family.
Appreciate him holding down the fort last week. The Sexton
Brothers mission to Taiwan was fascinating. We have an interview
(00:21):
with the President of Taiwan that will air in this
program in the third hour where we get into the
threat from China, which is higher than it has ever been,
the threat of invasion. It's really getting tents over there.
That's one of the reasons, the main reason really why
I wanted to go, so I could see for myself
and learn what is going on. Meetings over there, interviews
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with the President, the Vice president, the National Security Advisor,
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possible amphibious invasion. I mean, it was a heck of
a week, I can tell you that, and I'm gonna
bring you as much of those insights as I can
of the course of this week clays out, I believe,
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until Thursday, so we have some time together over the
next couple of days. But so a lot to talk
about with respect to Taiwan and China. It really does matter.
It is incredibly important. It is something that we as
a country need to make sure we understand and we
avoid a massive war in the east. That's the real
(01:53):
problem here. That's what we're trying to tackle because it
would crash the markets and cause huge problems or global
supply chain for technology. My friends, it is the flash
point right now, and I hope that things stay calm
and peaceful and status quo reigns over there, and we
have a big hand in it. Anyway, I will get
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more into that. I know, first and foremost we are
looking here at what's going on at home. On the
home front. We have Oh boy, the shutdown happened. We
are in a shutdown, and it is not in fact,
dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria, but it is
interesting to see what Democrats place their priorities on. We
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will have the Speaker of the House, number three in
line for the presidency, Speaker Johnson set to join us
also in the third hour of the program. It's a
pre pac third hour, Speaker of the House Representatives, President
of Taiwan. We've got a big show for you, my friends.
So we'll discuss the shutdown negotiations, the latest on that
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with the Speaker of the House. So that then brings
me to the showdown over water being called federal protection missions.
I was following this from Afar twelve hours behind in
Oh no, I'm sorry, twelve hours ahead rather in Taiwan,
so watching the news from a distance and in a
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different timeframe. But certainly this showdown over the deployment of
these federal protection missions to different American cities is really
a big deal. It matters tremendously for the immigration enforcement mission,
which is central to the Trump administration agenda, but it
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also goes to sovereignty and the rule of law as
general principles in this country. Do we have rule of
law or not? Let me just take a step back
here for a moment. Democrats at every turn have insisted
that state governments, wherever they have control, state governments do
nothing to help and if possible, even thwart federal law enforcement.
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And they will when they Democrats are in charge of
federal government power, they will refuse help from the state government.
So it is the policy of the Democrat party to
undermine immigration law always at all times. When they have
the federal government they don't want, they will not accept
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help from the state. In fact, you will recall under
the disastrous Biden administration, they were telling Texas that Texas,
as a state on the border, was not allowed to
set up barriers to illegal entry. They forced Texas to
remove barriers to make it easier for the ten million plus.
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I keep saying plus because I don't maybe it was
twelve million with the Godaways. We don't know. Ten million
plus illegals piling into the country. Under Biden a decision
made by the Democrats to undermine our sovereignty, to be
lawless and reckless as a party, top down, the decision
was made to do this. And now that we have
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the Trump administration saying okay, we're actually going to enforce
the law, Democrats try to stop it at every point
at every juncture, and you're seeing this once again. If
they had any actual courage of their convictions, why don't
they just come out and say they're for open borders.
Let's really just get down to this. Democrats do not
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want enforcement of our immigration laws. They don't want border security,
they don't want deportations. They want to have the continuous
importation of the third World, of developing countries, of people
who don't speak English, who don't obey our laws. The
first act they commit on our soil is a violation
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of our laws at our sovereignty. And they do this
because they view America as something that needs radical change
with Democrats in charge, and the only way they can
achieve that, achieve that is to import non American voters.
Buy the millions, Buy the millions. This is the game plan,
this is what they do. Trump is trying to not
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only stop the inflow, but create an outflow of illegals
scent packing as are federal law states, they should be.
Let's be very clear about this. There's a lot of
talk about prioritization, about who can stay and who can go,
and oh my gosh, you know they're sending away this
Grandma who's been here for all these years. If you're
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here illegally, you are subject to deportation. That is federal law.
If Democrats don't like that, then Democrats in the House
and the Senate should try to change it. But what
they do is lie and say, oh, no, we're for
immigration laws, but we just want to make sure that
they're never actually enforced. They want to have it both ways.
They want to play this double game. Enough is enough.
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So Trump is forcing their hand because what you see
in Portland, what you see in Chicago, and the state
actions from Democrats controlling both proves my thesis beyond any doubt.
It is exactly what I have been saying and am
saying to you. That's what's going on. And you see
it with these federal protection missions. Now Portland, which unfortunately
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has for a long time been Antifa Stan, Antifa just
gets to show up, run rough shot, Mayhem, anarchy, do
whatever they want. Portland is Antifa Stan, as we know.
And they have these demonstrations and an Immigration and Customs
Enforcement facility, their ice facility there, demonstrations play where they're riots.
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You know, they're they're they're impeding law enforcement. They're getting
in the way there, there was the car being rammed
into Ice recently. I mean, they're doing all this crazy
stuff to stop law enforcement from conducting its duties. This
is lawlessness, This is unacceptable. And the fact that state
and local law enforcement, because this is a Democrat enclave,
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a Democrat fiefdom, the fact that state and local law
enforcement refuses to assist, refuses to provide backup, is all
the indication that anybody should need that the federal government
needs to double down and send reinforcements. That's what this
Federal Protection Mission is. President Trump, this is cut twelve.
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Spoke about the situation in Portland.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Listen, Portland's different. That's a bunch of paid insurrections. But
you have a lot of pay people in Chicago. Do
I believe the politicians are under threat because there's.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
No way somebody can say that things are one to
vote in Chicago, almod fifty five I think it was
fifty five people over a short third of times have
been murdered in Chicago, has been shot. Two hundred and
twenty two people over short have been hit, have been wounded,
(09:03):
not died, but fifty five people died over a short
pirit dumit you're telling me there's no city in the
world like that.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
We're going to straight it down. And I think that Pritzker,
he's not a stupid person. I think that Pritzker's afread
for his life.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Here we have Trump continuing to push on these issues
where I think he not only is right legally and morally,
but also politically because Democrats don't want things to get better.
They stand in the way of progress on bringing the
crime numbers down, murders down in Chicago, and immigration enforcement
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in Chicago, which is another big issue right now. They're saying, oh,
these they keep calling them militarized raids. They're antagonizing the
New York Times and Chicago Tribute and the Washington Post.
They're constantly inflaming and antagonizing the public, lying to the
public about the nature of these This is what is
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lawful for these ice officers to do. They are allowed
to go into areas and enforce our laws. Democrats cannot
get away with this game anymore. We cannot allow this
where they say, well, we support immigration forces, but I
don't like the way they're doing it. They're being really
mean in this area as they do it. What do
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they want to have happen here. You've got people that
don't want to go back to their own country, their
actual home country, their country of citizenship, and they are
fighting against it. Sometimes they are resisting arrest, they are
trying to evade law enforcement. Enough is enough. Democrats showed
us who they are underbided. They are an open borders party.
They are a bunch of liars. They cannot win. They
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show me one Democrat who can debate this issue with
someone like me, someone who's fired up and knowledgeable and
has been following it for now a decade very closely.
It doesn't exist because they're We've all seen that they
are lying. And that's why in Oregon it's really Portland
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is the issue. But within the Oregon state government this
is getting a lot of attention. A bunch of communists,
unfortunately run that place just like they run Portland. And
then Illinois. I feel bad if Pritzker is the governor
of Illinois, but really he's like the Viceroy of Chicago
because it's the Chicago political machine that controls the rest
of the state. There's a lot of nice places in Illinois,
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with plenty of sane people. It's just Chicago is run
by the crazies. And so you have the Mayor of Chicago,
Brandon Johnson, the governor of Illinois, like I say, the
Viceroy of Chicago Pritzker, who also wants to step up
for leadership of the Democrat Party. You have all of
them coming together trying to again inflame the public and
(11:52):
stop Trump from doing what he needs to do or
what he seeks to do here in these places. And
it's just madness. I think people have seen this. Now
you have a federal judge Sunday Night has blocked the
Trump administration from deploying National Guard, or has put out
an order to block the National Guard, I should say.
And now today Illinois has sued the Trump administration over
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Guard deployments. And so you got a couple of states
that are saying, no, you're not allowed to help with
enforcement of immigration. You cannot use federal resources in our
state to help with immigration enforcement and also to help
with crime. Not allowed to do it. This is lawlessness.
This is a critical fight. It's one where Trump is
(12:38):
right and has to continue. So I'll give you more
of this. By the way, I want to remind everybody
while these judges are coming forward to say Hey, you
can't do this. There's no need for this. There was
another time when there was National Guard deployed and there
was no need for it. That Democrats made a very
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big deal of deployed the national Guard and it was absurd,
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Speaker 1 (14:08):
Welcome in Everybody's second hour of play in Buck kicks
off right now. So we's talked a lot about Portland
in the first hour of program, and these dueling issues
of immigrations and customs enforcement particularly and lawlessness in Portland,
and then similar situation in Chicago. Ice facilities under siege,
(14:31):
Democrats wanting illegals to just be able to continue to
break our laws with impunity. That's not how the law works, lives.
But there's also just the crime issue and homicides, murders,
as salts, robberies, all of that, and the situation in
Chicago where you have still a very high overall murder rate.
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It's America's third largest city. It's a beautiful city. I
love Chicago as a place, and it's got a lot
of great people. It's got wonderful food and architecture, and
there's you know, a lot of things going for Chicago.
Here it's a little cold in the winter, but a
lot of things going for Chicago. Sorry, I'm from Miami now,
so I get to say these things. Little chili in
January in Chicago, but I hear it's a lovely place overall,
(15:18):
and I had I've only been there once and I
had a great experience, I must say. But there's too
much crime. And the mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, is
an incompetent and is only making things worse there, and
he sees this as his chance to square off against
Donald Trump, so he's going after the President. Remember, the
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President wants to make safe the city of Chicago for
all residents. In doing so, using federal law enforcement resources
in federal support to make it make their fewer murders
and to make it safe for on the streets of Chicago.
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It would disproportionately help minorities because there are more black
residents of Chicago who are shot and killed than anyone else,
and so it is actually a great service to the
predominantly black areas of the city of Chicago to bring
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the crime rate down. It's very small percentage of people
who are doing a very large percentage of the violent crime,
and of those crimes, the targets the victims are largely
disproportionately black. We all know these numbers. We've all talked
about this. Meanwhile, Mayor Johnson, this is cut twenty three,
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is attacking Trump for these efforts. Play it a double
minded man.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
He is unstable in every way possible, unhinged and unhealthy.
The idea of described the American people as enemies from
within is clearly not just a sign of authoritarianism. He
has totally imbibed the full spirit of tyranny, and our
cities are not training ground for the military. In fact,
(17:12):
even the notion to suggest that the brave women and
men who sign up to serve this country, to fight
terrorism around the globe, to protect our way of existence,
turning neighbors on their own neighbors is not only unconstitutional,
it is reprehensible.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
It is reprehensible. Huh, Mayor of Chicago is shameless. We
all understand what President Trump is trying to do here,
and he's trying to make Chicago safer. Let's look at
some of the Let's turn to the numbers. Shall we
last year twenty twenty four, that's the last year for
which we have full numbers. Chicago had five hundred and
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seventy three murders. Now that's the first time since twenty
nineteen that the number was under six hundred Chicago in
twenty twenty one. Let me just see the twenty twenty
one had pulling it up as I talked to you. Wow,
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in ninety four, there were nine hundred and thirty murders.
That's a lot. Seven hundred and seventy eight murders in
twenty twenty. Seven hundred and seventy eight murders in just
the city of Chicago in twenty twenty. Now, I just
got back, as you know, from Taiwan. I was on
a fact finding expedition there on a whole range of things,
(18:36):
mostly on the national security and economic front, because Taiwan
is critical for well the world actually on those issues.
And I'll be explaining more of that. But how many
murders do you think Taiwan's a country of twenty three
million people? How many murders you think Taiwan had last year?
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See about two hundred in the whole country of twenty
three million people. There are two million people in Chicago,
and Chicago had seven hundred and seventy eight murders in
twenty twenty last year. I know, let's say it's so
let's say they're running at about six hundred murders a
year on average for the last few years, because it's
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usually above six hundred, we'll be generous, We'll say about
six hundred murders. So Chicago, a city of two million,
has three times the total murder rate of the entire
nation of Taiwan with twenty three million people, with multiple
cities that have over two million people. I think we
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can see what's going on here. Right. You might be thinking, well,
what is it like to be and I hadn't had
this experience in quite some time, what's it like to
be in a place that feels really safe. Well, when
I was walking through a park at about ten o'clock
at night, a public park in the downtown of Taipei,
the main city, there were families in the park at night,
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just enjoying, you know, because it's nice and warm there.
It's very similar climate actually to South Florida. It's nice
and warm there. And they all they had was some
lamps providing an ambient light from the city. It's quite
a city type but you had families sitting on the
park benches in the playgrounds, just like as if it
was broad daylight. There's no concern about I can't be
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in a park at night because bad things will happen.
And there are little kids running around playing, parents sitting
on the benches watching for afar. And I had people
writing to me, oh, buck, but it's like that in
my town in South Dakota, or it's like that, you know,
in my town of five hundred people in you know,
South Carolina or something. And I'm like, okay, yeah, that's nice.
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But this is a city of millions of people, millions
of people consolidated together in one place, and they and
it's as safe as a town of a few thousands
in a very red rural part of America. It is
as safe as that. So you say, well, it must
be possible. One of the other anecdotes I have for this,
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which I thought was so interesting, was that people would
do this thing where you would be in a cafe
and they would put their phone down, and I would
say to myself, wait a second. They'd get up to
go to the bathroom and they would leave their phone
at the you know, their one thousand dollars, iPhone or
whatever at their seat. I had never seen this before, right,
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I would When I lived in Midtown Manhattan, I was
worried that somebody was going to reach into my pocket
when I was sitting there drinking my coffee and try
to take my phone. They leave their phone there to
mark their seat, to save their seat while they go
to the bathroom, and no one this is what you'd interesstand.
I asked some of the locals about this. No one
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thinks this is odd. They're like, yeah, of course they
want ever to know. It's like if you're at a
buffet at a hotel and you know, you leave your
your napkin on the tables. Everybody knows that you're sitting there.
They do that with their smartphone in public places where
people are coming and going on the street, No big deal.
High trust society a place where people do not have
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to be worried, do not have to be concerned about
crime because it is not a realistic concern for them. Now.
I'm not saying we're going to be able to turn
Chicago into Taipei in terms of safety and security. It
would be nice, but that's not gonna happen. I do
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point it out, though, because we should know what is possible.
We should know that there are cities with millions of
people living together where there is basically no concern whatsoever
about crime, and then use that as a comparison to
say Chicago, where there is far too much crime for
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far too long. It doesn't have to be this way.
Crime is a choice. Society makes a choice about how
much crime it will tolerate. But crime is a choice.
We don't have to deal with things the way that
they are. And unfortunately, what you see from the Mayor
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of Chicago and from Governor Pritzker is they don't want
it to get better. They want this status quo. The
same way that the Taiwanese people. And I say, I
love Taiwan, and I love the Taiwanese people. They really
endeared themselves to be topped about. Everybody I dealt with there.
Everyone is so polite and considerate and friendly, and it's
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just a great place. It's a great place the same
way that they are proud, and they should be because
I talked to them. They kind of giggle, they laugh
when I'm saying, well, you got it's so safe here.
How is this little old ladies walking around midnight by
themselves on the streets, not a care in the world. Kids,
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I didn't see. I didn't take the subway there. I
took their high speed trains to get around the countryside
because I had some places I had to go. But
they do, they do have people. We'll get on these trains.
I thought I was sitting in the quiet car. If
you've ever taken the Acella from DC to or Boston
down to d C with the New York stop, I
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thought I was in the quiet car. No, that's just
people are just quiet and respectful. They're not all, you know,
playing their iPhones on speaker phone. They're not all shouting,
they're not all loud talking. I thought I was in
a quiet car. I was just in a Taiwanese railcar.
People just all being respectful. And there's no trash. They're
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trash anywhere. I mean, whether in the high speed train
or on the streets, there's no litter. Isn't that amazing?
It turns out you don't have to have people just
dropping their you know, their big mac rappers wherever they're walking.
It doesn't have to be that way, and we could
all be in a place that is much safer in
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this country, in the big cities, if we were willing
to make the necessary decisions as a society, you get
the crime you tolerate. It is not a given. It
is not Oh, there's no way out of this status quo.
But when you have people like Mayor Johnson who don't
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want it to get better, it won't get better. You
are locked into this. Here, this is cut twenty four.
Here he is saying that really, this is about a
war on poor people that Trump is waging.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Play it.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
This is not about deportation, This is not about community safety.
This is quite frankly, this is about for profit. You know,
we know that there is an investigation right now that's
underway with Tom Holman, who took fifty thousand dollars, fifty
thousand dollars from two FBI agents because Tom Holman made
a promise to direct contracts to the very people who
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are running these detention centers, who actually gave over almost
three million dollars to President Trump's campaign.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
The president of the United States of America.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Has declared war on poor people. And if there was
ever a time for working people to stand up across
this world, the time is now.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
What a just rabble rousing, lying jerk. This guy is
war on poor people. Trump's trying to keep keep poor
people from getting shot walking to the grocery store. He's
trying to keep children from catching a bullet from some
gang banger who can aim and doesn't care shooting it
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out with some other gang bang over who gets to
sell fentonl murdering people in the streets. Trump wants to
stop that, and the Mayor of Chicago thinks that he's
the good guy here. He thinks that Trump's waging a
war on poor people. No, the war on poor people
is from incompetent democrats like the mayor of Chicago. The
war on poor people is from less left wing race
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hustling democrats who don't want to take the necessary steps,
who don't want to do what they can do to
save lives and make those city streets safer. It could
be a heck of a lot better than it is,
and Trump's trying to make it so. And you know,
I'll be honest with you so much about this country
I am so proud of. I do think we're the
greatest country in the world. I know we have our problems.
(27:45):
I love America though I truly do. When you come
home from being abroad, it reminds you how much you
love this place. But it is embarrassing how much crime
there is in our Democrat cities like New York, where
I used to live in. Though Chicago's way worse than
New York. It's embarrassing because it doesn't have to be
this way. And the leadership that says that it is,
whether it's Pritzker or Johnson or any of these Democrats,
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that straightforward, it's that simple. Trump's trying to save people,
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and Buck. We have the White House addressing the shutdown
and other questions right now. But on the shutdown issue,
here's here's where things stand. Democrats, I think that they
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are finding this is not breaking the way for them
that they have wanted it to. They in general think
that shutdowns are something that favors Democrats, probably because they
have the media in their back pocket. But here, here,
let let's get into some of this. Ted Cruz, for example,
(30:27):
Senator Cruz, this has cut four. It's pretty straightforward. The
Republicans have said they'll fund the government. It's Democrats that
want their special goodies in addition to the continuing resolution funding.
So it's Democrats who are throwing their little tantrum, and
Senator Cruz is saying, maybe they should stop stop throwing tantrents.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
Play for the real reason we're having the shutdown is
Chuck Schumer is at a political crisis. A couple of
months ago, he agreed to allow the government to stay open,
and his left wing base got furious with him. He
is looking over his left shoulder, terrified that AOC is
going to primary him, and so this is a temper tantrum.
This is Chuck Schumer and the Democrats saying we hate
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Donald Trump, and we hate Donald Trump so much we
are going to shut the government down. The government will
reopen when Schumer's temper tantrum ends. But this is pure
political theater, trying to guard his left base.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
So that's one part of it. Democrats trying to figure
out how to play this when it comes to their
constituencies and what this looks like. And I like that
Senator Cruz goes after the possibility of an AOC primary.
Oh man, wouldn't that be great. It would be such
a fun thing to do to just just pop the
(31:43):
popcorn and watch AOC try to take Schumer down. And
he's got to be thinking about that. Schumer, he's a
guy who say what you will about him. He knows
how to keep that funding flowing for his campaigns, and
he wants to keep that Senate seat. Would have a
big advantage with well, a whole bunch of things, but
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certainly with her media profile and using digital media. This mom,
Donny guy, by the way, New York, I'm worried. I'm
worried about what's gonna happen to you guys. I really am,
including my own family that's there. This mom, Donny guy's
a disaster. Really truly, he he'sn't even worse. I thought
(32:24):
he was really bad, But the more I'm seeing from him,
I think he's worse than I thought, which I'm not
even sure I knew that was possible, but it is
because he is. It's not good. It's not good. I
think I'm gonna get some fellow Floridians out of this bargain,
some people who are sane, but I know a lot
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of people are. It's not as easy as just picking
up and leaving. I was lucky. I was not yet married,
had a mobile job, I didn't have a kid yet
in school, so it was easy enough for me to move.
I know it's hard for people to just pick up
and move. You wouldn't have to, right, You shouldn't have
to flee some communist maniac in a state like New York,
(33:07):
which is a great place and has so much going
for it. The city of New York, I should say,
which has so much going for it. But here we are,
here's Trump. Let's just let Trump weigh in. This is
cut one on the shutdown and the possibility there could
be some Democrat job cuts from this, go for it.
Speaker 9 (33:24):
But it's all because of the Democrats. The Democrats are
causing the loss of a lot of jobs with their
it's a shutdown. It's their shutdown, not our shutdown. It's
their shutdown.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
It is their shutdown, the Schumer shut down, if you will.
They have decided that it is so important for them
to try to get these Obamacare ACA supplemental payments out there.
Let's just make this really easy. Obamacare, which is the
(33:57):
signature achievement, if you can call it that. But the
main thing that Barack Obama in eight years got done
was Obamacare. As we know, I know, ruining the country
and igniting race riots and all that. Yeah, that too,
But the main thing from a legislative standpoint is Obamacare.
(34:20):
And they promised that this was going to cover everybody,
and it was going to bring cost down. That was
really It was going to cover everybody and bring costs
down and also not explode deficit spending. And what you've
seen is that it was a It has failed on
(34:40):
all fronts. Essentially, it has covered more people, but overwhelmingly
through medicaid. Medicaid is busting budgets in states all over
the country, and there's the complicated machinery of how these
states are funding these programs and how they're like what
(35:01):
they do in a state like California, they spend in
order to get they spend more to they can get
more federal matching dollars. They're running all kinds of scams
essentially to just create this massive slush fund and medicaid.
There's so much of it too that has nothing to
do with actual care and it's a disaster. But okay,
(35:24):
before we get into all or without even getting into
this state funding of these things, have your premiums gone up?
All of you are saying yes, have your premiums gone
up a lot? As in, are you in whatever healthcare
plan you have which you weren't allowed to keep? That
was the big promise of Obamacare. If you like your plan,
you can keep your plan? No you can't. And on
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your new plan, do you have better coverage? No you don't.
Are you paying a lot more for it? Yes? You are.
Was the whole Obamacare game, other than being a huge
giveaway to the insurance industry, but was the whole game
that you were subsidizing. It's just a complex scheme for
you to subsidize other people's healthcare. That's what Medicaid is.
(36:13):
But that's also what a lot of Obamacare exchanges are
really all about. It is healthcare socialism. It's exactly what
people who were criticizing it, like me at the time,
said it would be. But then you add to that illegals.
You add to that the millions and millions of people
who have come into this country who are illegal aliens,
(36:35):
who are also getting healthcare now in something like emergency
room care. You've seen New York City with its surge
of migrants. In twenty twenty four, thirty percent of emergency
room visits were illegals because they just use it as Okay,
now I have a toothache, I go to the er.
(36:56):
I need prescription glasses. I go to the er and
they don't pay anything, and no one thinks they're going
to pay anything. So that's one part of this, right,
But the way it works is even more complicated and
more nefarious, I would say, than just you having to
shoulder the burden of people coming into this country and
(37:17):
making the because the money comes from somewhere, right, someone
is paying for all these illegals. Oh and you also
pay for it with your time. If you try to
go to and this is true of cities across the country.
If you try to go to the emergency room for
an emergency, I know, they say they do triage, but
they're overwhelmed. They got doctors, and you know, yeah, maybe
(37:39):
you get seen before the illegals if you've got like
a you know, a stake knife in your shoulder when
you come in. But if you go in there and
you know you're having a problem, you want to get
seen quickly, and it's not like immediate life or death.
You got a whole bunch of illegals who are in there,
who are also being seen, who are being seen ahead
of you, and they're using it, like I said, for
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non emergency care. But then you look at what happens
in say California, New York, where they do give they
do give health care to illegals as part of their
state programs. Well, then what California does is find every
creative way possible to make the federal government pay more
(38:24):
health care funds into the state of California, which are
then fungible, which then California uses to cover illegals. This
is the game. And they say, oh, but none of
these Obamacare dollars go to illegals. Okay, but California, the
state of California has a budget. It has money that
it spends. And if California is spending money covering illegals
(38:47):
and also taking federal dollars to shore up whatever wild
spending spreees it's going on with healthcare generally, guess what
this is like. When they used to say, remember one
of the big lies about planned parenthood, with its decades
of murdering babies in the womb, planned paranoid, it was, oh, well,
(39:11):
none of the dollars will go remember the High Demendment.
None of the dollars will go toward abortion, only go
toward women's healthcare. If I tell you, hey, you're running,
you need money for your household budget, I'm going to
give you one thousand dollars a month, but only for food.
(39:31):
You can't use it for gas. Well, if I'm giving
you one thousand dollars, what difference does it make. I'm
giving you one thousand dollars, right, whatever, The money that
you were going to be spending on food can now
be used for gas. This is how they play the
game of giving illegals healthcare coverage. And this is why
Democrats are fighting so hard on this issue and why
(39:52):
people like Elizabeth Warren so upsehut, he's just shaking her fist.
Here's is when CBS asks her if Democrats want to
provide healthcare to non citizens, this is cut to listen
to what Senator Warren, when she goes on the war path,
she's scary. Listen to what she has to say. Publicans say,
(40:13):
what you're really fighting for is taxpayer dollars for, as
they put it, illegal aliens.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
I know that's not strictly true, but there is a provision.
Speaker 10 (40:21):
Excuse me, not strictly it's not true, but out lie.
It is a flat out.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
Lie the way that they frame it.
Speaker 10 (40:31):
In Medicaid. There is nothing in Medicare that permits one
undocumented immigrant to get one dollar of assistance.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
But they get it. And now they've already admitted that
it does happen, they just say it doesn't happen. It's
the classic Democrat sliding scale. It's not happening, you're lying. Okay,
it's happening, but it's not happening that much. You know
where they'll eventually be as people see more than numbers. Okay,
it's happening, and it's a good thing. Shut your face.
Why are you such a racist? That's where we're headed,
(41:04):
you know. But Elizabeth Warren fired up there, Someone better
hands her a piece pipe. Very upset, very unhappy with this.
But people are sick of Remember, our healthcare has gotten
more expensive and worse, and illegals are getting health care
at a whole bunch of ways, and you are paying
for it, and your children and your grandchildren will be
paying for it, and that's wrong. We should not be
(41:26):
the soup kitchen and emergency room for the entire world's poor.
And that's what we are right now. And it's not fair,
it's not right. We have Americans who need help. We
have Americans who are struggling. We have Americans who can't
pay their bills and are behind and have unaffordable bills
from doctors and emergency rooms. Oh, but they're expected to
(41:49):
pay them, unlike the illegals. So Trump is on this
fight and should be, and it's the right way to go.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
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Speaker 1 (43:08):
Speaker of the House, Speaker Johnson is with us now.
Mister Speaker, appreciate you making the time we can discuss
some shutdown and other issues.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
Buck great to be with you. I look forward to
that interview. That's timely stuff with Taiwan. We watch it
very closely, so I'm glad you got to go over
there and see it first.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
An thank you. Yeah, please do listen in. He had
a I asked him, I said, what's your message directly
to President Trump? People should know that we don't have
an embassy there. We don't have direct high level meetings
with the government of Taiwan. So getting the word around
I think is really important because things are heating up
with China. But in the meantime, mister Speaker, just bring
(43:46):
us up to the latest here on are we calling
it the Schumer shutdown? I am, but what's the latest
on this government shutdown? What's happening?
Speaker 6 (43:55):
Yeah? I wish there were more developments to report, but
we're stuck at a stalemate. It is the Schumer Democrat shutdown.
And I did a little press conference this morning, just
trying to lay out once again reiterating the simple truths.
I mean, the truth has been obscured by all these Democrats.
They're relentless efforts at spinning what everybody knows to be true.
(44:16):
I mean, look, this is a clean, continuing resolution, and
what we mean by that is there's no part of provisions,
and it no tricks, no gimmicks. We're just simply trying
to keep the lights on. Because as we were going
through the appropriations process, we ran out of clock because
the end of the fiscal year September thirtieth and not
the end of the calendar year at December thirty one,
so we needed more time. And Chuck Schumer's always been
(44:38):
a champion of the ars. He never wanted to shut
down the government because he knows how dangerous it is.
And I mean, but roll the tape. I mean, he
gave the most impassioned speeches on this very subject in
March of this year. This is like six months ago.
But something changed, and I'm trying to point out to
everybody this is very simple. It comes down to Chuck
(44:58):
covering his own tail.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
All right, Well, so let's there's the politics of this
for Schumer, which because I want to talk about healthcare
piece too. But your friend on the Republican side of
the Senate, Senator Cruz brought this up that there is
some specific political calculation here for Chuck Schumer. Can you
just elucidate elaborate on that a little bit.
Speaker 6 (45:22):
I'll elaborate as briefly as I can, because it's pretty simple. Look,
Chuck Schumer is a far left progressive politician. Everybody knows
that he's been in Congress for forty four years. Brother,
at most of our lives, right, he's been serving here,
But it's.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Actually longer than I've been alive, mister speaker.
Speaker 6 (45:38):
But yeah, there you go, all right, Yeah, I was
gonna all right, all right, so I'm giving myself a
little credit here, But look, all of your life he's
been here, Okay, But he is yesterday's news. He's the
last generation of leadership. He's seventy four years old now,
and he's no longer the cool kid. Here's the problem,
Chuck Schumer has, plain and simple, the Marxister now running
(45:58):
New York. That's his state. They're about to elect Mom Damie,
an open Marxist, to be the mayor of America's largest city.
Cheff Schumer is terrified by that because he knows that
he's going to get a challenge from his left and
his next Senate reelection bid, and that's probably could be
AOC or somebody else, but it's almost a guarantee at
this point, and he's almost guaranteed to lose. So he's
(46:20):
got to show a fight against Trump. They didn't have
any fight to show because again, we have a clean
fe r to keep the government open. So they concocted
this faux issue. They're trying to argue that this is
suddenly a debate about healthcare. Never was. This is about
simple funding, a simple funding measure. The healthcare debate is
for the three months ahead of us going into the
(46:42):
end of the year. That's the calculation. All this, all
the pain inflicted upon the American people, is to cover
one guy's political future. And his name is Chuff Schumer,
and he happens to leave the Democrats in the Senate.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Now we've got that political piece of this. Can you
dive a little more into the the healthcare for illegals
debate that has just been all over and I was
on the other side of the world and trying to
follow it from from Taiwan last week. But this has
been a major issue. Democrats seem to be taking multiple
(47:15):
positions at the same time on it. Oh, it never happens.
It only happens a little bit. It happens sometimes, but
it's a good thing. What is the truth about the
concerns that illegal immigrants, legal aliens in this country are accessing,
even indirectly, federal dollars for healthcare?
Speaker 6 (47:33):
Thank you. There's a couple of very important facts that
are irrefutable, and I laid them out in my prescotte
this morning. That's all on social media. But here's the thing. Okay,
the Democrats have been wanting to give taxpayer funded benefits
to illegals, and they actually did it. We know that.
Go back to rerund to twenty twenty, to the presidential
debate stage when everybody was trying to get the Democrat nomination,
(47:56):
and they asked all of them in that debate, raise
your hand if you would like to give taxpayer funded
benefits and healthcare to illegal aliens. Every single Democrat candidate
on the stage raised their hand, including Joe Biden and
Kamala Harris. So when they got elected, they did that
for four years. They used all the forces of the
government and they expanded all these programs to illegals. We
fixed it, Buck, We passed the one big beautiful bill.
(48:19):
Republicans got control and last November of Congress and we
pushed through the American the Working Family's tax cuts. Okay,
And in that bill, we reversed all that nonsense. We
took the health care benefits away from illegals. It was
never intended. Medicaid was never intended for non US citizens,
and we fixed it. So what Chuck Schumer did, because
(48:40):
remember they needed a political issue now it's a fight
of her healthcare. They fought this monstrosity of a counterproposal
just to keep the lights on, just to keep the
government open. They are demanding now that we spend one
point five trillion dollars of additional taxpayer funds on big
liberal priorities. Included in that is reversing the chain as
we made and restoring taxpayer funded healthcare to illegal aliens.
(49:06):
In fact, it is a fact. Go to the website
Speaker dot gov. Pull it up for yourself. Don't take
my words for it. Go look at Chuck Schimbers document
that he filed in the Congressional record. We have highlighted
their page fifty seven Sestion twenty one forty one that
does exactly what I just said.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Now, can you just explain this. We're speaking to a
Speaker of the House Johnson here. How does that mechanism work?
As in, what is the process through which illegals are
accessing federal dollars for their healthcare? Or how is the
state playing budgetary games in this case, states like California
(49:44):
and New York in order to give illegal aliens healthcare
that is funded in some way by the federal government.
Speaker 6 (49:52):
Well, there's a number of ways that's done. And it's
a great question, and there is an exhibit right there
on that website speaker dot gov that shows you this
in a simple chart. Okay, the Democrat Continuing Resolution Chuck
Schumer's gambit here would spend nearly two hundred billion dollars
of American taxpayer funds on healthcare subsidies for illegal immigrants
(50:12):
and other non citizens. And what are we talking about.
There's six specific ways they do it. We reversed them
all in the Working Families Tax God Act, the one
big beautiful bill. And the quick summary of what they
are is we in our bill, we ended medicaid funding
for most non citizens. That's about six point two billion
dollars in savings. We ended the emergency care for illegal
(50:35):
aliens that had been expanded. Believe it or not, California,
for example, expanded Medicaid to cover able bodied illegal alien adults,
and in the process of all this, we call that
the California loophole. We ended that they also were literally
hospitals were being reimbursed more for treating illegal aliens in
(50:55):
an emergency room than American citizens, but while pregnant and
American single women. I mean, it's it's just madness. Okay.
We took all that out. We reversed the fraud, waste,
abuse in Medicaid, Medicare, Obamacare funding for most non citizens,
these special rules they put in, and Obamacare for immigrants.
You add it all up, it's one hundred and ninety
two point eight billion dollars. Okay. We reversed that into
(51:20):
big beautiful bill and check Schimmer on phase fifty seven
of his counterproposal c R would reverse all of it.
It's a fact. They can't refute it. Not a single
one of them have done it on TV or radio anywhere.
They cannot. As John Adam said, facts are suborn things.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
And yet here we are. What are we six days
into this shutdown? Seven six days something like that? What
is yours? Yeah, what is your sense, mister speaker for
where this is going? And also can you speak to
mister speaker the possibility of not just furloughs, but some
trimmed federal jobs as a result of this shutdown. Where
(51:59):
does that? Where does that lie?
Speaker 6 (52:01):
Well, there's two good and important questions I think with
regard to when does this end? As soon as we
get a handful, we need five or six additional Democrats
in the Senate to come to their senses and stop
the madness. They've always voted for CRS in the past.
They need to recognize real Americans being hurt here. I
reminded everybody in the press commerce this morning. I said,
(52:22):
basic civics. You'll remember, we don't have enough Republican votes
to get out of this mess, because you need sixty
votes in the Senate. Our problem is we only have
fifty three Republicans there. So you've got to have Democrats
that get off of this plank that they've walked themselves
on and do the right thing for the people. So
we'll see it goes probably at least another week. They've
painted themselves into a corner. But with regard to the
(52:43):
real pain, brother, real.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Mister speaker, hold on a sec did you move somewhere
because our cell are We had a beautiful, beautiful crystal
clear cell connection and then it got a little bit
a little bit funky there for a second, so I
could get you to either step to the other side
of your office wherever you were, hopefully maybe the connection
will just clear up. Go for it.
Speaker 6 (53:00):
Yeah, is that a little better?
Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yes, it is. There we go crystal clear. Keep going.
Speaker 6 (53:04):
Okay, I think it's the Russians. They're securing our thing
from the capitol here, so listen. So here's the deal.
We're in this situation and it's causing real pain to
real American people. You're talking about you know, infant women,
infants and children that have their nutrition subsidies, their supplemental
nutrition being halted. Right now. You've got health services to veterans,
(53:25):
You've got our troops and our border patrol agents and TSA.
They're all working to protect Americans with no pay right now.
I mean, it just goes on and on and on,
so real pain by real people. The question is how
long are the Senate Democrats going to allow this to
go on? And you know, among all those those pain points,
(53:45):
there's a lot of things involved. Now you talked about
the furlough of federal workers, Russ vote. Our good friend
runs the Office of Management and Budget and the Trump administration.
His job is to scale down the government because Chuck
Schumer decided to turn off the funding streams. He has
an choice in the matter. He takes no pleasure in it,
but he has to sit down and evaluate everything the
federal government does and Trio you right, You've got to
(54:07):
determine what are the most essential services, policy personnel that
we carry on and which are less so. And anybody
who's in his position in any administration of these circumstances
has that responsibility. If falls to our friend Russ, we
pray that he uses wisdom and discernment, but you know
he has no choice in the matter.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
Mister Spaker, appreciate you making the time for us, sir.
Speaker 6 (54:31):
You got it, brother, Take care.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
Man. He's Democrats. It's funny, the more the truth gets out,
the worse their position looks, not just on this, pretty
much on everything, but on this it is absolutely the case.
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