October 24, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives into major national issues, political debates, and cultural flashpoints. The segment opens with breaking news on a kinetic strike targeting a fentanyl-laden vessel linked to Venezuela, underscoring the administration’s aggressive stance against drug trafficking. The hosts also discuss the White House renovation project, praising its security benefits and functionality for hosting events.
The conversation shifts to urban crime and political accountability, spotlighting San Francisco’s mayor Daniel Lurie for cooperating with President Trump on crime reduction efforts—a stark contrast to Illinois Governor JB Pritzker, who faced tough questioning from Bret Baier over Chicago’s soaring murder rate. Clay and Buck dissect crime statistics, noting that violent crime disproportionately affects Black and Hispanic communities, and argue that Trump’s surge-in-resources approach could become a national model. They propose a bold 2028 Republican platform: cut U.S. murders by half through federal intervention and tougher enforcement on repeat offenders.
Next, the hosts highlight Bernie Sanders’ surprising admission that Trump “did a better job” securing the border, framing it as proof that strong immigration policies work. This segues into a discussion with Congressman Chip Roy, who addresses the ongoing government shutdown, skyrocketing Obamacare premiums, and his push for healthcare reform through expanded Health Savings Accounts and direct primary care. Roy also champions bipartisan legislation to ban congressional stock trading, citing widespread public support and the need to eliminate conflicts of interest. He then previews his campaign for Texas Attorney General, emphasizing battles against fentanyl trafficking, Soros-backed prosecutors, and radical Islamist networks allegedly targeting Texas communities.
The hour closes with lighter fare: college football talk, including Texas Longhorns’ struggles and Aggies’ prospects, plus Clay’s NFL PrizePicks betting strategy featuring quarterbacks Jackson Dart, Caleb Williams, Mac Jones, and CJ Stroud. Finally, the hosts revisit the NBA poker scandal, correcting misconceptions about poker terminology like “gutshot straight draw” and speculating that more high-profile players, including Kevin Garnett, may be implicated in mafia-linked games.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Second hour of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
It gets going right now. It is fantastic news for
all of you listening and all of us hanging out together.
We have some very interesting stories to get to you.
Here more details on the shutdown, details as well on
the tenth the tenth strike kinetics strike a missile blowing
(00:25):
up a boat with bentanyl in international waters, but departing
from the Narco state of Venezuela. So we shall get
to some of that conversation. The White House renovation modification,
whatever the proper terminology is, this is getting a lot
(00:47):
of attention. I think that what Trump is doing. First
of all, it looks good to me, the thing that
they're trying to do, truly, like I would say if
I didn't think that esthetically, I think it looks good.
I also think it makes a lot of sense for
the White House to have a gathering place. Sometimes they
have big tents and things on the lawn. Like, I
(01:08):
think that this makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
It's probably safer, it's probably a better you can control.
I'm security wise, I think security world, yeah, yeah, yeah,
security wise, I think it makes a lot of sense.
So we'll talk about some of that situation, but.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I wanted to start off with this one.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Because the it was I think it was a really
big moment yesterday, Clay. We mentioned it here on the
show when the mayor of San Francisco, who we had
been told because we have listeners in the Bay Area,
including who live in San Francisco, is being a pretty
reasonable guy. That's not that's not an endorsement of all
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of his policies. It's not, oh, he's great, he's the
second coming of Giuliani in the nineties. Not saying that,
but he is trying to make San Francisco cleaner and safer,
and for a mayor, I know those are really to
safety is number one, because safety is first and foremost local. Right,
(02:09):
If you are going to be wondering where the biggest
risks are gonna come for you, and who on a
law enforcement side is most responsible for your safety, it's
your sheriff, it's your constable, it's your local PD, your
local police department. They have a bigger role in that
than anybody else.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
So the mayor of San Francisco, it seems like he,
well Trump has said this very clearly.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
He is taking the steps.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
And so when Trump says, hey, look, we're gonna come
in with all these federal officers in federal law enforcement,
the mayor pushes back and says, you know what, we're
very think. By the way, this guy also is smart
enough to understand how to deal with Trump, show him respect,
show deference to the president. Daniel Lourie is this guy,
(03:00):
he's the mayor. Yeah, and he's saying, look, mister President,
we appreciate the offer. We understand that you mean this
in good faith and you want San Franciscans to be
safer on their own streets and all the other good
things that happen from this. We are taking the following
steps that we think you would approve of, you would
agree are.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Good things to be doing. And if we need you
in the future, we know we can reach out. But
let's just let us see if we can manage this
and guess what Trump says, Look, I think we'd make
this happen faster for you, but I'm respecting the system here.
I understand this is a local matter for you. First
(03:40):
and foremost. Let's let you try it your way for
a bit, because you're willing to be reasonable, and we
have this outreach.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
That's one version of how to deal Clay. The other
version we.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Get from the Governor of Illinois JB.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Pritzker, mister poker.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Millionaire in a day guy one point four million dollars
in a blackjack blackjack guy, black je was chosen game.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
But yeah, this isn't this is.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
An area where you know, it's good that I'm here
to talk about guns. It's good Clay here to talk
about gambling because I have no I know nothing about
any of this stuff. I don't even know what the
rules of these games are, never mind the name.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I think I got some of the poker and now
and notwithstanding that, I think some of the poker guys
are fired up at me. So I'm not a poker expert.
We may have to clean up that at some point.
Notwithstanding your praise, I well, you can tell me anything,
because I know I know absolutely nothing about poker.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
But JB.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Pritzker, who seems to know a lot about poker, Jamie
Pritzker is telling everybody, well, look, he was on Brett
Bears show, and if you get if you get smoked
by Brett Bear, I mean, Brett's a very very good
journalist and at a very just a solid guy. I
think does a great show, but it's generally a very
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polite and you know, reasonable guy. We also love Uncle Bill,
but like if Bill O'Reilly gives you a banking on TV,
you're not the first one if Brett has to slap
you around a little bit, though you were really asking
for it, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And here is JB.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Pritzker when he's confunded by Brett Bear on the murder
rate in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Listen to this exchange play fourteen.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Why does Chicago have the highest murder rate of all
the big cities?
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Well, we are not in the top thirty in terms
of our murder rate.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
In murder rate, our murder.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Rate has been cut in half over the last four years,
and every year it's gone down by double digits. And
if you look at all of the violent crime over
the last four years.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
We've all gone to US cities seventeen point forty seven
per one hundred thousand population. Chicago's number one over Philadelphia, Houston, Dallas,
San Antonio, Phoenix, Los Angeles, New.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
York, and San Diego. What I'm explaining to you a
violent crime.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Look, you can pull statistics up his ads I'm explaining
to you that our murder rate has been cut in half.
And very importantly, Brett, and you got to hear this,
very importantly. We've been doing the things that are necessary
to bring crime down right. We've invested in community violence interruption,
We've invested in police clay.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
What's going on here.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It's like Pritzker's trying to steamroll Brett, like he's standing
in between him and a box of Twinkies.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Oh that's good, that's very good.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
By the way, Brett Bair, did you see CBS saying, Hey,
maybe we're going to hire him to be the new
nightly news guy on CBS. Not sure he would leave Fox,
but he's.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
In a contract for like for like four more years.
He's not.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
That's just they're just trying to get They're just trying
to get something going over there with CBS getting attention
for the new anyway, not not to I mean, isn't
he It says that he's a he's in a hard
deal for until twenty he's done.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
He's done a great job, is my point.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And I love it because he came right back and
pointed out that the murder rate is awful in Chicago.
And you can say, as JB. Pritzker did well, the
murder rate is not as awful as it was when
we were setting twenty first century all time highs. The
biggest this is important, the biggest increased. Clay BLM created
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the biggest nationwide one year increase in murders in the
history of the National Murder Statistic collection.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
By the FBI. That's right number one all time.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
And they now are bragging about it being basically back
to where it was in twenty nineteen. But I think
a lot of people out there are saying the rates
are just too high. And this is where I give
Trump a lot of credit on just saying, why do
we accept roughly twenty thousand murders a year? Why do
(07:44):
we just say, okay, in America, we're not going to
be concerned about that. My argument would be that to
a large extent, it's because of Democrats, and it's because
rich Democrats typically don't deal with murders, and when murders
do happen in their neighborhoods, I mean violent, you know,
unconnected to the people. Murders just you're walking down the
(08:05):
street and somebody gets shot in the head and they're
completely innocent, there's no connection.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It's usually a big story.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Still, you know this In New York City, if you
get killed, you can tell me the three neighborhoods where
if somebody gets killed, it's on the front page of
the New York Times and everybody is saying, oh my goodness,
crime is out of control. And then you probably can
give me three neighborhoods where when somebody gets murdered it
doesn't even make the news because.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
South Bronx, East New York.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
A little bit of the eastern part of Bedsty, but
the South Bronx is number one by far, and then
Brownsville slash East New York, which is kind of far
east central East Brooklyn. That's where that's that's where a
huge percentage, I don't want to throw out a number,
but a huge percentage of his homicides for the whole
city occur in those three areas.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Rich people live in neighborhoods even if crime is high,
where they don't have to be concerned because they have
private security, because they have armed doormen, because they've got
the ability to be able to protect themselves and their children.
And overwhelmingly, I think as part of this stat I
saw I was doing my research this morning. Ninety five
percent of all murders in Chicago involve black or Hispanic victims. Yes,
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over ninety percent of those incarcerated at Rikers Island, New
York are black, Black or Hispanic. So that the data
on this, the statistics on this shows you both perpetrator
and victim overwhelmingly when you're talking about violent crime involves
the non.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
White community in these cities.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
And I think that's also why there's this horrific irony
of BLM, which is that it says Black Lives Matter,
and then all that it did was create a ground
swell of political force to make things worse for black
and Hispanic communities all over the country by undermining police
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and changing procedures and everything else and incarcerating serious criminals.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So that's a mess. But I actually, Clay, I think.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
The to the Trump issue here for a second. We
know we talk a lot about the crime issue. I
think the San Francisco thing with that mayor, Mayor Lourie
is really interesting because you may start to see this
is maybe the next stage of trump Ism on some
of this, where there's going to be the insane Democrats
and the Democrats who are willing to on a limited issue,
(10:27):
on a limited basis, who don't necessarily have their own
presidential aspirations, work with Trump to get results for their constituents,
and that will cause further disarray in the Democrat Party overall.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
DC.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
With the mayor there, Lourie, with the mayor.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
In San Francisco, you're starting to see people say, you
know what, maybe you can help us a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Well, what's the harm?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I mean, I've never heard anybody argue if Trump is
wrong and surging resources in cities Memphis, Washing In d C,
San Francisco, Chicago, whatever city you want to talk about,
If surging resources in those cities doesn't work, then crime
stays the same and unfortunately the same people end up
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being victims by and large a violent crime. If it works,
then you have a template to put in place all
over the country. I mean imagine, I would love to
see this. I would love if in twenty twenty eight,
as part of you know, JD. Vance or Marco Rubio,
whoever's running, I would love to see a Republican candidate
(11:33):
come out and say my goal is over the four
year term that I'm in office, to cut murders by
half in this country. I want murders to go from
twenty thousand a year to ten thousand a year, and
I'm going to surge federal resources to help all of
our cities and states try to make that happen. I
don't understand how that is not an innately great political result.
(11:55):
Just think about that, buck. I mean, in the same
way that we have grown used to there being twenty
thousand murders. We used to just say, hey, well, we
could never secure the border. And then Trump showed up.
They put a play it in place, and even Bernie
Sanders will play this maybe when we come back. Even
Bernie Sanders now is saying, hey, Democrats blew it on
the border. Trump was right and he has secured the border.
(12:16):
What if Trump's right on he can drive down violent
crime in this country.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I got to tell you, I think he is.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
And when you go into CompStat and the various police
data and sooner it'll be eight. By the way, AI
is going to also be very helpful for a lot
of these law enforcement processes to look at data sets,
understand where hotspots are, understand if there's any statistical basis
for believing that certain policies or procedures are effective in
(12:45):
lowering or limiting crime in some areas. All would take
in most major cities is removing repeat violent offenders or
serious offenders from the general population, and within a few
years of that, Clay, you would have massive drops, yeah,
(13:06):
in crime.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
So we're not even trying because because getting the person
who their first crime is you know, you know, murdering,
the murdering the guy, you know, mowing the law next
door because he's having a bad day.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
We live in society. Human beings are imperfect, they do
bad things. Evil is real. Can't stop everything. You can
stop the guy who finally strangles and murders some woman
jogging in the park who's already been arrested fifty times.
You actually can stop that guy before he does the
last pinous crime that they and that alone would bring
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down the crime rates dramatically. But the left is going
to have to accept it. If they do this, based
on the numbers that we currently live with, you're going
to have a lot of non white people in these
cities who are incarcerated for long periods of time. That
is going to happen based on the stats.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Based on the numbers, am I crazy for saying this
straight up like that should be a goal of twenty
twenty eight at Republican politics is I'm going to commit
resources and we're going to try, over four years to
drive the murder rate down.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
By that, I.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Hope they would show, yes, maybe we put a thousand
more people in prison and say Chicago, and yes, ninety
percent of them are black or Hispanic. But by doing so,
we've saved four thousand, mostly black and Hispanic lives. And
never mind all the people, all the law abiding Black
and Hispanic residents who are not subject to crimes and
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We were
just talking about the fact that Trump solved everything at
the border, so much so that Bernie Sanders is even
giving him credit.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Listen to this.
Speaker 9 (16:42):
You don't have any borders, so you don't have a
nation right in a sense. So has historically the United
States done well on the Democrats and Republicans protecting the border.
Answer is no, Trump did a better Trump. I don't
like Trump, you know, but we should have a secure
border and that hard to do. Biden didn't do it,
those before him did not do it. We should obviously go.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
What a period.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yes, Bernie Sanders correct Bernie Standers sound bite. Very accurate
and smart in that SoundBite because that is true.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
So I don't know, yeah, not even remotely controversial. But
it is somewhat interesting that Bernie Sanders would be deciding
to come out and endorse one of the signature achievements
of the Trump administration so far. And I do think again,
it speaks to a potential test case of what Trump
(17:38):
could do with violent crime in this country, which everybody
says is an intractable, unaddressable problem. We used to hear
that a lot about the border, and now there isn't
a word about the border. Well, it's also interesting that
they're convinced that taking everyone's ar fifteens would lower the
crime rate, even though that's absurd and statistically insane. But
they don't think they're taking criminals off the streets would
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lower the crime rate.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Hmm.
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the great city of Texas. Congressman, appreciate you being with us, sir.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Great to be honest. Always hope you guys are doing
well on this great Friday.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, we're in pretty good spirits, pretty good shape over here.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I think the country overall is although this shutdown, it's
starting to feel more real to people as paychecks are
getting missed. And we got the Washington Post headline here
average Obamacare premiums set to rise thirty percent. Congressman, what
the heck is going on here? I thought Obamacare was
(19:35):
supposed to make it all cheaper.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
Yeah, I mean, there's so much going on to talk about.
I mean, the short version is this, we did our job.
We passed the bill that would fund government through Thanksgiving, right,
I mean we passed that over a month ago in
the House. Chuck Schumer, for very political purposes, has chosen
not to and you're right. I mean the President, God
bless him, and Russ Vote the head of the Omb.
They cobbled together money to pay our true at the
(20:01):
midpoint of October, but this Friday, we're going to hit
the end of the month. I think we can scrape
a few more bucks together to figure out how to
pay the troops. But it's going to get finn and
you got TSA, you got.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
The border patrol.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
And they're doing all of this for no reason other
than political games. There's no other reason to do it, right.
They're not objecting to our spending money for something. They're
not picking a righteous fight. What they're saying is they
have nothing to run on, so they want to try
to pick a fight on healthcare and say that that's
what we're going to win the election on next year.
(20:32):
But you just pointed it out. They give up the joke.
The fact is the subsidies that they're seeking four hundred
billion dollars to go straight to insurance companies. It gives
up the game that, as The Washington Post said two
weeks ago. You quoted the Post. The Post said, the
Affordable Care Act has been anything but affordable because all
(20:54):
it is is a failed system of giving money to
insurance companies, allowing them to get rich while the hardworking
Americans pay more for premiums and get less coverage, get
less care from doctors, and fewer options. So the President's
got alternatives, and we'll talk about those alternatives. I released
a whole plan for healthcare last January, called the Case
(21:14):
for Healthcare Freedom, with expanded health savings accounts, expanded direct
primary care, more options for people to go to health
sharing ministries, the ability to drive prices down. But Democrats
don't want to talk about that. They want to play games.
And I'll just say this, they're holding the government hostage.
But they've been holding the American people hostage to a
broken healthcare system for a decade, and now they're trying
(21:35):
to do it for political purposes.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
We're talking to Congressman Chip Roy, big Texas fan. Unfortunately
for him, his wife's Texas a and m Aggie's are
having a better season right now. We may get to
that eventually, but Congressman, I'm curious. You have been focused
on insider trading, and this is something that gets both
Buck and myself fired up about. You know, we just
(21:58):
had the scandal about inside trading in the NBA. You know, players,
what they're going to play or not, all those things.
I get why that's a crime. I'm actually way more
interested in why everybody in Congress has incredible timing like
Nancy Pelosi. I means he's basically Warren Buffett. Isn't it
kind of a no brainer to not allow congress people
(22:21):
to engage typically in individual stock trading?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
And why does this not happen?
Speaker 7 (22:27):
Yeah, I mean, look, this is one of those things
that polls at something like ninety percent. Clay and I
think Republicans have been missing the mark, not jumping aboard.
I mean I introduced legislation five years ago on a
bipartisan basis. There are multiple bills we spend this summer
kind of cobbling together and merging those bills together into
a package that now has bipartisan consensus. And I don't say.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
That very often.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Right, there's not that many things that we agree on
on a bipartisan basis, but we've got I think twenty
Republican co sponsors about sixty Democrat co sponsors. Publicus have
just been a little slow to catch up to the argument. Look,
I think it's pretty simple. You shouldn't be trading stocks
and making money for yourself based on information that you
(23:14):
have at your disposal. But even put that aside, just
straight up, are you able to make good decisions? For example,
in the House Judiary Committee as I serve on about
whether to break up companies right and anti trust, or
whether to do something with insurance companies at a hospital
corporations with healthcare reforms, or maybe you're in armed services
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and you're appropriator and you're voting on defense contracts. How
can you be doing that in good faith if you're
getting richer based on the policy choices you're making. Because
we now live in a corporate Cronius type environment where
massive federal contracts are at play. Let me give you
an example, Southwest Airlines. I was giving them trouble for
(23:54):
their mask mandates and all their requirements on their flight
attendants and their pilots.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
Know what.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
They told me, Well, we might risk the two hundred
million dollar government contract that we have. That's the world
we live in, and I'm sick of it, and we
shouldn't be trading stocks. So my advice to Republicans is
put this bill on the floor. Let's vote on it,
because I don't think Republicans can vote against it.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Well, I would love to see some accountability on this
one Congressman, But it feels like this is one of
those that somehow always doesn't really get done at the
eleventh hour. I think we all could take some guesses
as to why that is. I think some members really
like being able to outdo a lot of professional stock
(24:39):
pickers for various hedge funds and such. But let me
ask you what is the current because I think.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
This is important.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
The current rules are what for picking stocks for a
member of Congress?
Speaker 7 (24:50):
What?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Because there was a big search to do something about this,
A decade ago and then they passed some water down law.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
So what are the rules right now?
Speaker 7 (25:00):
The rules right now are you pretty much can do
anything you want, you just have to report them. And
it is those increased reporting requirements a little over a
decade ago in the Stock Act that was that that
was what has caused the environment where I can get
the where we have the information at our disposal to
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UH tell us that we need to have these stock
trading bands in place. So I think that helped us.
But we need to put requirements that limit your ability
to trade. There's no reason you shouldn't be in a
broadly traded fund or you shouldn't just be able to
put it in a you know, a simple you know
fund that has no tie to a specific stock and
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then just get out of the business. And in my
colleagues who say, well, we have a right we should
be able to trade. Look, there's only four hundred and
thirty five of us. There's three hundred and twenty million Americans.
So if you don't want if you want to trade,
you want to date trade, then just get out of Congress.
So we're going to try to force a vote on this.
We've got Republicans and Democrats committed to force this issue,
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and we're going to do it as soon as we
can this fall.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
All right, let's go into the AG's race.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I know that Texas has got a ton of super
competitive primaries going on all across the board, so many
different moving parts. You were running for Attorney general of
the great state of Texas. Why do you want to
be ag? How is the race going? What should people
out there? And by the way, let me also add this.
The primary in Texas is in March. So I know
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everybody down in your state right now is obsessed with
high school football and college football, and I mean, it
is the football crazy place. But by the time we
come out of Christmas in New Years, it's basically going
to be almost early voting time. How is the campaign going?
What should people know in Texas right now? As primary
seasons only about six months away?
Speaker 7 (26:57):
Yeah, I know, you're exactly right. We're about four months
away from early vote. And look, I'm running for Attorney
general for the simple reason that Texas is worth fighting
for and preserving and protecting, and Texas is under assault.
We've got this reprieve happily with President Trump, and you know,
good folks in the administration that are securing the border,
that are making sure that they put us in a
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good position. And I think that's important. But we also
have to look ahead and know how Texas is going
to do after President Trump. We have wide open borders
that are currently stopped, but you've got all these bad
actors that are still wanting to make profit and putting
fennel into our streets and to have you know, dangerous
individuals in our communities. You've got these organized Marxist and
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leftists and George Soros prosecutors that are putting criminals on
our streets in San Antonio and in Austin and Houston
and Dallas.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
And then we've got the.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Extent to which we've got Sharia law, and we've got
radical Islamis that are coming into our state and that
they're setting up strongholds throughout the state of Texas. Not
just my Donnie in New York, not just Dearborn, not
just Minneapolis, but Dallas. You have the Muslim brotherhood who's
looking at Dallas as the epicenter of the advancement of
Shria law. The Attorney General has to be at the
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center of that fight. The Attorney general has to have experience.
The attorney general has to have been somebody who stood
up in court as I have as an assistant the
United States Attorney or has stood up in as the
first assistant Attorney General and filed cases in front of
the Supreme Court, defended Texans. And we've got to make
sure someone can lead and carry Texas forward in the
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absence of a President Trump, not just alongside President Trump
going forward.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
All right, Chip, what in the world has happened to
your Texas Longhorns, your wife's inn, Aggie. I'm not feeling
good about your chances this year. But I watched that
game against Kentucky. I mean, I mean it was like
y'all didn't even have an offense. Offensive line, can't block anybody.
You got Missippi State this weekend and down the line again,
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you got the Aggies.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
What's going on?
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Yeah? Well, look, I mean a bunch of that game
last week was tough. But we've got you know, Texas
now going into Mississippi State. That's always a tough game.
Lots of cow bell, as you know, and you know
that's a tough place to play. Look A and M's
gonna have a tough one too. They got to go
on the road into Death Valley at LSU, no doubt,
and uh, you know we need A and M. It's
going to have to have the defense show up. It
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did not show up last week against Arkansas. They let
Arkansas stack forty two points on them. Their defense better
show up when they go down to LSU, and the
offense needs to prove they can do it on the
road like.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
They did with Notre Dame.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
Look with Texas, we just need the offense to get
in sync. Obviously, not where we want to be with
two losses, but we got a little gift. Not one
hundred percent sure why Kentucky went for it twice there
in that you know, we kind of got a little
lucky in my view that they decided to go for
it there on fourth down with that same play. So look,
you know we need a lot of pressuremen pointed on
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arch I think you already noted. Offensive line has basically
been a wide open door and he's been getting rushed.
If you look at the stats, it's been pretty crazy.
So you know, Start's got to figure out how to
deal with what he's got. Right, Like Rumsfeldt said, you
can go to war with the army, you got. If
the offensive line's not getting the job done, you got
to get ourg out and let him create a little bit,
and you got to figure out how to protect him.
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And you know, hopefully we can get back on track
this weekend because we still got a shot. But every
game the rest of the year is the game that
we could win or lose. And you know we want
to We want to be able to finish for two losses,
not more. So got to step on the gas.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You co signed all that buck you think he broke
down as I agree, I'm not going to throw any
flags on that analysis. I think it tracks with mostly
what I'm seeing every weekend on Sundays.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Saturdays, good guests, whatever, close enough.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Congressman will appreciate you. Good luck on the campaign. We'll
talk to you again soon. And tell your wife to
start trying to figure out how she's going to celebrate
the big AGGI win at the end of the year.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
Yeah, well, I can tell you that she's you know,
they're starting to feel it. They're starting to talk a
little smack and my son and daughter they kind of
leaning A and M direction and so but you know
what else that you gotta Remember I went to Virginia undergrad.
They had a great game last week, pulling that one out.
They're now six to one, and who would have thought
Virginia would be ranked higher than Texas right now?
Speaker 3 (31:17):
So U elliotts and it's done a great job in
Charlottesville this year at UVA. We appreciate the time a
man and come on anytime.
Speaker 7 (31:27):
All right, thanks Mike couple stick here.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
That's ship Roy.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
I think he's going to be the next age in
state of Texas, which is going to be very important
because they've got a huge battle going on, as we've
talked about Buck on the Republican Senate primary side, where
they got three big time candidates just throwing punches to
try to see who's going to be the nominee for
the Republican Party going forward. Remember on the Democrat side,
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Speaker 3 (33:45):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton show. Coast to
Coast poker fans, poker players are upset with me. We
got to clean up my error here, Buck gutty? What
is a gutty in poker parlance? Early do not know.
This is why I am a fish. This is why
I do not accept invites to any high end poker tournaments.
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Although Buck, Pablo Torre, who has been breaking a lot
of different stories, says, and this makes total sense that
there are many more star NBA players that may have
been hosting these games for Mafia Dons, including he names
Kevin Garnett, who is another Hall of Fame player, way
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more famous. I would say, Buck, you would probably agree
with this than Chauncey Billups. Yes, And I just said
when we started this conversation, Look, Chauncey Billups is a
famous guy. If you are a big basketball fan, your
average person doesn't know.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Who Chauncey Billups is.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
If he was doing this and the mafia had X
ray card tables and all this technology, do you really
think they were only doing it with him? Of course not.
I think this thing could get really messy in a hurry.
But in the meantime, let me clean up my error.
Chris from New York City listening on WR let's start
on the East Coast with criticism and in.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Professional poker Dealer here when he says a gutty, it's
not a gut instinct. What he's referring to is a
gut shot straight draw, which is a very very low
probability hand. It's a straight that you're most likely not
going to make, so you would not put a lot
of money in.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
The pot for it.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
So if you are putting a lot of money in
the pot, it's very risky and not very profitable. But
it would be if you knew what the car was coming.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah, I mean, look, that's well said. We'll also play
on the left side. We started on the right side
of the country. Let's go to the left side. We
got a huge audience. In Spokane News radio five ninety
KQN T. Richard is also teeing off on me. Here's
what he had to say about my misattribution of the
term gutty.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Hey, Clay, this is Richard.
Speaker 10 (35:54):
Clearly you do not know anything about poker, because a
gutty is a reference to a gut shot straight draw,
like you need a card in the middle of a
run in order to make a straight It is not
an instinct, it's an actual term for poker.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
What we get there, basically, buck is you only make
certain moves in poker if you have a bit of
knowledge that maybe you shouldn't have if the game is
not fair, as has been talked about in poker for
a long time. Even back in the wild West, Dot
Hall day every now and then would shoot a few
men over a cheated game of cards.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I am, like I said, not familiar with these things.
In college, people used to play strip poker, but of
course never partook in any of that that stuff, that
chick cannery.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I'll tell you this, based on the girls that went
to Amherst, I'm not sure i'd want to play strip
poker there when we come back.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
I can't even defend Amherst.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
On that one.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
You went, maybe some SEC schools I've aked
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Second hour of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
It gets going right now. It is fantastic news for
all of you listening and all of us hanging out together.
We have some very interesting stories to get to you.
Here more details on the shutdown, details as well on
the tenth the tenth strike kinetics strike a missile blowing
(00:25):
up a boat with bentanyl in international waters, but departing
from the Narco state of Venezuela. So we shall get
to some of that conversation. The White House renovation modification,
whatever the proper terminology is, this is getting a lot
(00:47):
of attention. I think that what Trump is doing. First
of all, it looks good to me, the thing that
they're trying to do, truly, like I would say if
I didn't think that esthetically, I think it looks good.
I also think it makes a lot of sense for
the White House to have a gathering place. Sometimes they
have big tents and things on the lawn. Like, I
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think that this makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
It's probably safer, it's probably a better you can control.
I'm security wise, I think security world, yeah, yeah, yeah,
security wise, I think it makes a lot of sense.
So we'll talk about some of that situation, but.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I wanted to start off with this one.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Because the it was I think it was a really
big moment yesterday, Clay. We mentioned it here on the
show when the mayor of San Francisco, who we had
been told because we have listeners in the Bay Area,
including who live in San Francisco, is being a pretty
reasonable guy. That's not that's not an endorsement of all
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of his policies. It's not, oh, he's great, he's the
second coming of Giuliani in the nineties. Not saying that,
but he is trying to make San Francisco cleaner and safer,
and for a mayor, I know those are really to
safety is number one, because safety is first and foremost local. Right,
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If you are going to be wondering where the biggest
risks are gonna come for you, and who on a
law enforcement side is most responsible for your safety, it's
your sheriff, it's your constable, it's your local PD, your
local police department. They have a bigger role in that
than anybody else.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
So the mayor of San Francisco, it seems like he,
well Trump has said this very clearly.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
He is taking the steps.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
And so when Trump says, hey, look, we're gonna come
in with all these federal officers in federal law enforcement,
the mayor pushes back and says, you know what, we're
very think. By the way, this guy also is smart
enough to understand how to deal with Trump, show him respect,
show deference to the president. Daniel Lourie is this guy,
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he's the mayor. Yeah, and he's saying, look, mister President,
we appreciate the offer. We understand that you mean this
in good faith and you want San Franciscans to be
safer on their own streets and all the other good
things that happen from this. We are taking the following
steps that we think you would approve of, you would
agree are.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Good things to be doing. And if we need you
in the future, we know we can reach out. But
let's just let us see if we can manage this
and guess what Trump says, Look, I think we'd make
this happen faster for you, but I'm respecting the system here.
I understand this is a local matter for you. First
(03:40):
and foremost. Let's let you try it your way for
a bit, because you're willing to be reasonable, and we
have this outreach.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
That's one version of how to deal Clay. The other
version we.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Get from the Governor of Illinois JB.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Pritzker, mister poker.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Millionaire in a day guy one point four million dollars
in a blackjack blackjack guy, black je was chosen game.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
But yeah, this isn't this is.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
An area where you know, it's good that I'm here
to talk about guns. It's good Clay here to talk
about gambling because I have no I know nothing about
any of this stuff. I don't even know what the
rules of these games are, never mind the name.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I think I got some of the poker and now
and notwithstanding that, I think some of the poker guys
are fired up at me. So I'm not a poker expert.
We may have to clean up that at some point.
Notwithstanding your praise, I well, you can tell me anything,
because I know I know absolutely nothing about poker.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
But JB.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Pritzker, who seems to know a lot about poker, Jamie
Pritzker is telling everybody, well, look, he was on Brett
Bears show, and if you get if you get smoked
by Brett Bear, I mean, Brett's a very very good
journalist and at a very just a solid guy. I
think does a great show, but it's generally a very
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polite and you know, reasonable guy. We also love Uncle Bill,
but like if Bill O'Reilly gives you a banking on TV,
you're not the first one if Brett has to slap
you around a little bit, though you were really asking
for it, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And here is JB.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Pritzker when he's confunded by Brett Bear on the murder
rate in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Listen to this exchange play fourteen.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Why does Chicago have the highest murder rate of all
the big cities?
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Well, we are not in the top thirty in terms
of our murder rate.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
In murder rate, our murder.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Rate has been cut in half over the last four years,
and every year it's gone down by double digits. And
if you look at all of the violent crime over
the last four years.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
We've all gone to US cities seventeen point forty seven
per one hundred thousand population. Chicago's number one over Philadelphia, Houston, Dallas,
San Antonio, Phoenix, Los Angeles, New.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
York, and San Diego. What I'm explaining to you a
violent crime.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Look, you can pull statistics up his ads I'm explaining
to you that our murder rate has been cut in half.
And very importantly, Brett, and you got to hear this,
very importantly. We've been doing the things that are necessary
to bring crime down right. We've invested in community violence interruption,
We've invested in police clay.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
What's going on here.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It's like Pritzker's trying to steamroll Brett, like he's standing
in between him and a box of Twinkies.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Oh that's good, that's very good.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
By the way, Brett Bair, did you see CBS saying, Hey,
maybe we're going to hire him to be the new
nightly news guy on CBS. Not sure he would leave Fox,
but he's.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
In a contract for like for like four more years.
He's not.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
That's just they're just trying to get They're just trying
to get something going over there with CBS getting attention
for the new anyway, not not to I mean, isn't
he It says that he's a he's in a hard
deal for until twenty he's done.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
He's done a great job, is my point.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And I love it because he came right back and
pointed out that the murder rate is awful in Chicago.
And you can say, as JB. Pritzker did well, the
murder rate is not as awful as it was when
we were setting twenty first century all time highs. The
biggest this is important, the biggest increased. Clay BLM created
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the biggest nationwide one year increase in murders in the
history of the National Murder Statistic collection.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
By the FBI. That's right number one all time.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
And they now are bragging about it being basically back
to where it was in twenty nineteen. But I think
a lot of people out there are saying the rates
are just too high. And this is where I give
Trump a lot of credit on just saying, why do
we accept roughly twenty thousand murders a year? Why do
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we just say, okay, in America, we're not going to
be concerned about that. My argument would be that to
a large extent, it's because of Democrats, and it's because
rich Democrats typically don't deal with murders, and when murders
do happen in their neighborhoods, I mean violent, you know,
unconnected to the people. Murders just you're walking down the
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street and somebody gets shot in the head and they're
completely innocent, there's no connection.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It's usually a big story.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Still, you know this In New York City, if you
get killed, you can tell me the three neighborhoods where
if somebody gets killed, it's on the front page of
the New York Times and everybody is saying, oh my goodness,
crime is out of control. And then you probably can
give me three neighborhoods where when somebody gets murdered it
doesn't even make the news because.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
South Bronx, East New York.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
A little bit of the eastern part of Bedsty, but
the South Bronx is number one by far, and then
Brownsville slash East New York, which is kind of far
east central East Brooklyn. That's where that's that's where a
huge percentage, I don't want to throw out a number,
but a huge percentage of his homicides for the whole
city occur in those three areas.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Rich people live in neighborhoods even if crime is high,
where they don't have to be concerned because they have
private security, because they have armed doormen, because they've got
the ability to be able to protect themselves and their children.
And overwhelmingly, I think as part of this stat I
saw I was doing my research this morning. Ninety five
percent of all murders in Chicago involve black or Hispanic victims. Yes,
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over ninety percent of those incarcerated at Rikers Island, New
York are black, Black or Hispanic. So that the data
on this, the statistics on this shows you both perpetrator
and victim overwhelmingly when you're talking about violent crime involves
the non.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
White community in these cities.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
And I think that's also why there's this horrific irony
of BLM, which is that it says Black Lives Matter,
and then all that it did was create a ground
swell of political force to make things worse for black
and Hispanic communities all over the country by undermining police
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and changing procedures and everything else and incarcerating serious criminals.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So that's a mess. But I actually, Clay, I think.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
The to the Trump issue here for a second. We
know we talk a lot about the crime issue. I
think the San Francisco thing with that mayor, Mayor Lourie
is really interesting because you may start to see this
is maybe the next stage of trump Ism on some
of this, where there's going to be the insane Democrats
and the Democrats who are willing to on a limited issue,
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on a limited basis, who don't necessarily have their own
presidential aspirations, work with Trump to get results for their constituents,
and that will cause further disarray in the Democrat Party overall.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
DC.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
With the mayor there, Lourie, with the mayor.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
In San Francisco, you're starting to see people say, you
know what, maybe you can help us a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Well, what's the harm?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I mean, I've never heard anybody argue if Trump is
wrong and surging resources in cities Memphis, Washing In d C,
San Francisco, Chicago, whatever city you want to talk about,
If surging resources in those cities doesn't work, then crime
stays the same and unfortunately the same people end up
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being victims by and large a violent crime. If it works,
then you have a template to put in place all
over the country. I mean imagine, I would love to
see this. I would love if in twenty twenty eight,
as part of you know, JD. Vance or Marco Rubio,
whoever's running, I would love to see a Republican candidate
(11:33):
come out and say my goal is over the four
year term that I'm in office, to cut murders by
half in this country. I want murders to go from
twenty thousand a year to ten thousand a year, and
I'm going to surge federal resources to help all of
our cities and states try to make that happen. I
don't understand how that is not an innately great political result.
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Just think about that, buck. I mean, in the same
way that we have grown used to there being twenty
thousand murders. We used to just say, hey, well, we
could never secure the border. And then Trump showed up.
They put a play it in place, and even Bernie
Sanders will play this maybe when we come back. Even
Bernie Sanders now is saying, hey, Democrats blew it on
the border. Trump was right and he has secured the border.
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What if Trump's right on he can drive down violent
crime in this country.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I got to tell you, I think he is.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
And when you go into CompStat and the various police
data and sooner it'll be eight. By the way, AI
is going to also be very helpful for a lot
of these law enforcement processes to look at data sets,
understand where hotspots are, understand if there's any statistical basis
for believing that certain policies or procedures are effective in
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lowering or limiting crime in some areas. All would take
in most major cities is removing repeat violent offenders or
serious offenders from the general population, and within a few
years of that, Clay, you would have massive drops, yeah,
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in crime.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
So we're not even trying because because getting the person
who their first crime is you know, you know, murdering,
the murdering the guy, you know, mowing the law next
door because he's having a bad day.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
We live in society. Human beings are imperfect, they do
bad things. Evil is real. Can't stop everything. You can
stop the guy who finally strangles and murders some woman
jogging in the park who's already been arrested fifty times.
You actually can stop that guy before he does the
last pinous crime that they and that alone would bring
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down the crime rates dramatically. But the left is going
to have to accept it. If they do this, based
on the numbers that we currently live with, you're going
to have a lot of non white people in these
cities who are incarcerated for long periods of time. That
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Speaker 1 (16:41):
Listen to this.
Speaker 9 (16:42):
You don't have any borders, so you don't have a
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States done well on the Democrats and Republicans protecting the border.
Answer is no, Trump did a better Trump. I don't
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So I don't know, yeah, not even remotely controversial. But
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to come out and endorse one of the signature achievements
of the Trump administration so far. And I do think again,
it speaks to a potential test case of what Trump
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crime rate, even though that's absurd and statistically insane. But
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the great city of Texas. Congressman, appreciate you being with us, sir.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Great to be honest. Always hope you guys are doing
well on this great Friday.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, we're in pretty good spirits, pretty good shape over here.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I think the country overall is although this shutdown, it's
starting to feel more real to people as paychecks are
getting missed. And we got the Washington Post headline here
average Obamacare premiums set to rise thirty percent. Congressman, what
the heck is going on here? I thought Obamacare was
(19:35):
supposed to make it all cheaper.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
Yeah, I mean, there's so much going on to talk about.
I mean, the short version is this, we did our job.
We passed the bill that would fund government through Thanksgiving, right,
I mean we passed that over a month ago in
the House. Chuck Schumer, for very political purposes, has chosen
not to and you're right. I mean the President, God
bless him, and Russ Vote the head of the Omb.
They cobbled together money to pay our true at the
(20:01):
midpoint of October, but this Friday, we're going to hit
the end of the month. I think we can scrape
a few more bucks together to figure out how to
pay the troops. But it's going to get finn and
you got TSA, you got.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
The border patrol.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
And they're doing all of this for no reason other
than political games. There's no other reason to do it, right.
They're not objecting to our spending money for something. They're
not picking a righteous fight. What they're saying is they
have nothing to run on, so they want to try
to pick a fight on healthcare and say that that's
what we're going to win the election on next year.
(20:32):
But you just pointed it out. They give up the joke.
The fact is the subsidies that they're seeking four hundred
billion dollars to go straight to insurance companies. It gives
up the game that, as The Washington Post said two
weeks ago. You quoted the Post. The Post said, the
Affordable Care Act has been anything but affordable because all
(20:54):
it is is a failed system of giving money to
insurance companies, allowing them to get rich while the hardworking
Americans pay more for premiums and get less coverage, get
less care from doctors, and fewer options. So the President's
got alternatives, and we'll talk about those alternatives. I released
a whole plan for healthcare last January, called the Case
(21:14):
for Healthcare Freedom, with expanded health savings accounts, expanded direct
primary care, more options for people to go to health
sharing ministries, the ability to drive prices down. But Democrats
don't want to talk about that. They want to play games.
And I'll just say this, they're holding the government hostage.
But they've been holding the American people hostage to a
broken healthcare system for a decade, and now they're trying
(21:35):
to do it for political purposes.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
We're talking to Congressman Chip Roy, big Texas fan. Unfortunately
for him, his wife's Texas a and m Aggie's are
having a better season right now. We may get to
that eventually, but Congressman, I'm curious. You have been focused
on insider trading, and this is something that gets both
Buck and myself fired up about. You know, we just
(21:58):
had the scandal about inside trading in the NBA. You know, players,
what they're going to play or not, all those things.
I get why that's a crime. I'm actually way more
interested in why everybody in Congress has incredible timing like
Nancy Pelosi. I means he's basically Warren Buffett. Isn't it
kind of a no brainer to not allow congress people
(22:21):
to engage typically in individual stock trading?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
And why does this not happen?
Speaker 7 (22:27):
Yeah, I mean, look, this is one of those things
that polls at something like ninety percent. Clay and I
think Republicans have been missing the mark, not jumping aboard.
I mean I introduced legislation five years ago on a
bipartisan basis. There are multiple bills we spend this summer
kind of cobbling together and merging those bills together into
a package that now has bipartisan consensus. And I don't say.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
That very often.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Right, there's not that many things that we agree on
on a bipartisan basis, but we've got I think twenty
Republican co sponsors about sixty Democrat co sponsors. Publicus have
just been a little slow to catch up to the argument. Look,
I think it's pretty simple. You shouldn't be trading stocks
and making money for yourself based on information that you
(23:14):
have at your disposal. But even put that aside, just
straight up, are you able to make good decisions? For example,
in the House Judiary Committee as I serve on about
whether to break up companies right and anti trust, or
whether to do something with insurance companies at a hospital
corporations with healthcare reforms, or maybe you're in armed services
(23:34):
and you're appropriator and you're voting on defense contracts. How
can you be doing that in good faith if you're
getting richer based on the policy choices you're making. Because
we now live in a corporate Cronius type environment where
massive federal contracts are at play. Let me give you
an example, Southwest Airlines. I was giving them trouble for
(23:54):
their mask mandates and all their requirements on their flight
attendants and their pilots.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
Know what.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
They told me, Well, we might risk the two hundred
million dollar government contract that we have. That's the world
we live in, and I'm sick of it, and we
shouldn't be trading stocks. So my advice to Republicans is
put this bill on the floor. Let's vote on it,
because I don't think Republicans can vote against it.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Well, I would love to see some accountability on this
one Congressman, But it feels like this is one of
those that somehow always doesn't really get done at the
eleventh hour. I think we all could take some guesses
as to why that is. I think some members really
like being able to outdo a lot of professional stock
(24:39):
pickers for various hedge funds and such. But let me
ask you what is the current because I think.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
This is important.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
The current rules are what for picking stocks for a
member of Congress?
Speaker 7 (24:50):
What?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Because there was a big search to do something about this,
A decade ago and then they passed some water down law.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
So what are the rules right now?
Speaker 7 (25:00):
The rules right now are you pretty much can do
anything you want, you just have to report them. And
it is those increased reporting requirements a little over a
decade ago in the Stock Act that was that that
was what has caused the environment where I can get
the where we have the information at our disposal to
(25:22):
UH tell us that we need to have these stock
trading bands in place. So I think that helped us.
But we need to put requirements that limit your ability
to trade. There's no reason you shouldn't be in a
broadly traded fund or you shouldn't just be able to
put it in a you know, a simple you know
fund that has no tie to a specific stock and
(25:46):
then just get out of the business. And in my
colleagues who say, well, we have a right we should
be able to trade. Look, there's only four hundred and
thirty five of us. There's three hundred and twenty million Americans.
So if you don't want if you want to trade,
you want to date trade, then just get out of Congress.
So we're going to try to force a vote on this.
We've got Republicans and Democrats committed to force this issue,
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and we're going to do it as soon as we
can this fall.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
All right, let's go into the AG's race.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I know that Texas has got a ton of super
competitive primaries going on all across the board, so many
different moving parts. You were running for Attorney general of
the great state of Texas. Why do you want to
be ag? How is the race going? What should people
out there? And by the way, let me also add this.
The primary in Texas is in March. So I know
(26:36):
everybody down in your state right now is obsessed with
high school football and college football, and I mean, it
is the football crazy place. But by the time we
come out of Christmas in New Years, it's basically going
to be almost early voting time. How is the campaign going?
What should people know in Texas right now? As primary
seasons only about six months away?
Speaker 7 (26:57):
Yeah, I know, you're exactly right. We're about four months
away from early vote. And look, I'm running for Attorney
general for the simple reason that Texas is worth fighting
for and preserving and protecting, and Texas is under assault.
We've got this reprieve happily with President Trump, and you know,
good folks in the administration that are securing the border,
that are making sure that they put us in a
(27:17):
good position. And I think that's important. But we also
have to look ahead and know how Texas is going
to do after President Trump. We have wide open borders
that are currently stopped, but you've got all these bad
actors that are still wanting to make profit and putting
fennel into our streets and to have you know, dangerous
individuals in our communities. You've got these organized Marxist and
(27:40):
leftists and George Soros prosecutors that are putting criminals on
our streets in San Antonio and in Austin and Houston
and Dallas.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
And then we've got the.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Extent to which we've got Sharia law, and we've got
radical Islamis that are coming into our state and that
they're setting up strongholds throughout the state of Texas. Not
just my Donnie in New York, not just Dearborn, not
just Minneapolis, but Dallas. You have the Muslim brotherhood who's
looking at Dallas as the epicenter of the advancement of
Shria law. The Attorney General has to be at the
(28:10):
center of that fight. The Attorney general has to have experience.
The attorney general has to have been somebody who stood
up in court as I have as an assistant the
United States Attorney or has stood up in as the
first assistant Attorney General and filed cases in front of
the Supreme Court, defended Texans. And we've got to make
sure someone can lead and carry Texas forward in the
(28:33):
absence of a President Trump, not just alongside President Trump
going forward.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
All right, Chip, what in the world has happened to
your Texas Longhorns, your wife's inn, Aggie. I'm not feeling
good about your chances this year. But I watched that
game against Kentucky. I mean, I mean it was like
y'all didn't even have an offense. Offensive line, can't block anybody.
You got Missippi State this weekend and down the line again,
(29:00):
you got the Aggies.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
What's going on?
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Yeah? Well, look, I mean a bunch of that game
last week was tough. But we've got you know, Texas
now going into Mississippi State. That's always a tough game.
Lots of cow bell, as you know, and you know
that's a tough place to play. Look A and M's
gonna have a tough one too. They got to go
on the road into Death Valley at LSU, no doubt,
and uh, you know we need A and M. It's
going to have to have the defense show up. It
(29:23):
did not show up last week against Arkansas. They let
Arkansas stack forty two points on them. Their defense better
show up when they go down to LSU, and the
offense needs to prove they can do it on the
road like.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
They did with Notre Dame.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
Look with Texas, we just need the offense to get
in sync. Obviously, not where we want to be with
two losses, but we got a little gift. Not one
hundred percent sure why Kentucky went for it twice there
in that you know, we kind of got a little
lucky in my view that they decided to go for
it there on fourth down with that same play. So look,
you know we need a lot of pressuremen pointed on
(29:58):
arch I think you already noted. Offensive line has basically
been a wide open door and he's been getting rushed.
If you look at the stats, it's been pretty crazy.
So you know, Start's got to figure out how to
deal with what he's got. Right, Like Rumsfeldt said, you
can go to war with the army, you got. If
the offensive line's not getting the job done, you got
to get ourg out and let him create a little bit,
and you got to figure out how to protect him.
(30:20):
And you know, hopefully we can get back on track
this weekend because we still got a shot. But every
game the rest of the year is the game that
we could win or lose. And you know we want
to We want to be able to finish for two losses,
not more. So got to step on the gas.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You co signed all that buck you think he broke
down as I agree, I'm not going to throw any
flags on that analysis. I think it tracks with mostly
what I'm seeing every weekend on Sundays.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Saturdays, good guests, whatever, close enough.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Congressman will appreciate you. Good luck on the campaign. We'll
talk to you again soon. And tell your wife to
start trying to figure out how she's going to celebrate
the big AGGI win at the end of the year.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
Yeah, well, I can tell you that she's you know,
they're starting to feel it. They're starting to talk a
little smack and my son and daughter they kind of
leaning A and M direction and so but you know
what else that you gotta Remember I went to Virginia undergrad.
They had a great game last week, pulling that one out.
They're now six to one, and who would have thought
Virginia would be ranked higher than Texas right now?
Speaker 3 (31:17):
So U elliotts and it's done a great job in
Charlottesville this year at UVA. We appreciate the time a
man and come on anytime.
Speaker 7 (31:27):
All right, thanks Mike couple stick here.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
That's ship Roy.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
I think he's going to be the next age in
state of Texas, which is going to be very important
because they've got a huge battle going on, as we've
talked about Buck on the Republican Senate primary side, where
they got three big time candidates just throwing punches to
try to see who's going to be the nominee for
the Republican Party going forward. Remember on the Democrat side,
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we may get Jasmine Crockett. Before all it said and done,
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton show. Coast to
Coast poker fans, poker players are upset with me. We
got to clean up my error here, Buck gutty? What
is a gutty in poker parlance? Early do not know.
This is why I am a fish. This is why
I do not accept invites to any high end poker tournaments.
(34:07):
Although Buck, Pablo Torre, who has been breaking a lot
of different stories, says, and this makes total sense that
there are many more star NBA players that may have
been hosting these games for Mafia Dons, including he names
Kevin Garnett, who is another Hall of Fame player, way
(34:29):
more famous. I would say, Buck, you would probably agree
with this than Chauncey Billups. Yes, And I just said
when we started this conversation, Look, Chauncey Billups is a
famous guy. If you are a big basketball fan, your
average person doesn't know.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Who Chauncey Billups is.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
If he was doing this and the mafia had X
ray card tables and all this technology, do you really
think they were only doing it with him? Of course not.
I think this thing could get really messy in a hurry.
But in the meantime, let me clean up my error.
Chris from New York City listening on WR let's start
on the East Coast with criticism and in.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Professional poker Dealer here when he says a gutty, it's
not a gut instinct. What he's referring to is a
gut shot straight draw, which is a very very low
probability hand. It's a straight that you're most likely not
going to make, so you would not put a lot
of money in.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
The pot for it.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
So if you are putting a lot of money in
the pot, it's very risky and not very profitable. But
it would be if you knew what the car was coming.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah, I mean, look, that's well said. We'll also play
on the left side. We started on the right side
of the country. Let's go to the left side. We
got a huge audience. In Spokane News radio five ninety
KQN T. Richard is also teeing off on me. Here's
what he had to say about my misattribution of the
term gutty.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Hey, Clay, this is Richard.
Speaker 10 (35:54):
Clearly you do not know anything about poker, because a
gutty is a reference to a gut shot straight draw,
like you need a card in the middle of a
run in order to make a straight It is not
an instinct, it's an actual term for poker.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
What we get there, basically, buck is you only make
certain moves in poker if you have a bit of
knowledge that maybe you shouldn't have if the game is
not fair, as has been talked about in poker for
a long time. Even back in the wild West, Dot
Hall day every now and then would shoot a few
men over a cheated game of cards.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I am, like I said, not familiar with these things.
In college, people used to play strip poker, but of
course never partook in any of that that stuff, that
chick cannery.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I'll tell you this, based on the girls that went
to Amherst, I'm not sure i'd want to play strip
poker there when we come back.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
I can't even defend Amherst.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
On that one.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
You went, maybe some SEC schools I've aked
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