October 24, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 kicks off with an upbeat tone as Clay and Buck dive into major economic news and cultural commentary. Clay and Buck celebrate record highs in the stock market, crediting President Trump’s economic policies and noting that inflation came in lower than expected, fueling optimism. They highlight falling interest rates, predictions of multiple Federal Reserve rate cuts, and a four-year low in gas prices, framing these trends as signs of a strong Trump economy. The discussion also touches on mortgage rates hitting yearly lows, boosting confidence for homeowners and investors.
The conversation shifts to lifestyle and seasonal topics, with Clay ranking October as the best month of the year thanks to sports like the World Series, football, and fall festivities. Buck counters with his love for January in Florida, sparking a lighthearted debate about weather, vacations, and Halloween traditions—including Clay’s neighborhood “parent treats” and costume plans.
From there, the show pivots to breaking political news: President Trump revealed that an anonymous donor contributed $130 million to cover military pay shortfalls during the ongoing government shutdown. Clay and Buck speculate on the donor’s identity and criticize Democrats for prolonging the shutdown, emphasizing its impact on everyday Americans living paycheck to paycheck. They also mention bipartisan efforts in the Senate to reopen the government.
Later, the hosts tackle a headline-grabbing sports scandal involving NBA legend Chauncey Billups, alleged mafia ties, and rigged high-stakes poker games. They dissect Stephen A. Smith’s controversial comments linking the FBI investigation to Trump, then play FBI Director Cash Patel’s fiery rebuttal dismissing those claims. Clay and Buck explore the broader implications of organized crime infiltrating poker circles, referencing pop culture hits like Rounders, 21, and Molly’s Game.
The hour wraps with a relatable viral moment featuring NFL quarterback Joe Flacco, who shares his newfound appreciation for dining alone while on the road—a sentiment that resonates with parents everywhere. Clay and Buck reflect on family life, personal downtime, and the simple joys of solo meals.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in. It is Friday. Rejoice. We are going to
have an awesome day with all of you. We appreciate
all of you across the country on our five hundred
and fifty five some odd stations hanging out. You can
also find us every single social media platform out there,
and soon you'll be able to watch three hours of
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the show. And I'm already I'm not gonna lie. I'm
a little bit nervous about that. We got to make
sure the lighting's deason because three hours on camera is
a long time on camera. But you will soon have
the ability to hang out with us on camera as well.
And we have got a ton of different news stories
out there. Our good friend Big Tish Letitia James has
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pled not guilty to her mortgage fraud charges. We will
play some of that for all of you, and we've
got a bunch to dive into. But I thought I
would start with a very positive thing because I do think,
as we were talking about yesterday, and as we have
talked about quite a few days, this is one of
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the greatest years in the history of our nation. If
you are saying, as President Trump is just making everything better,
and as I am talking to all of you, Buck,
we have set another all time record in the stock market.
It wasn't very long ago April, in fact, that we
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were in a position where everybody out there was panicked
and they were saying, oh my goodness, with these tariffs,
the American economy may collapse. There's no telling how bad
things could get. Run for the hills, there's no reason
to be in any way optimistic about the fate of
the country. Since then, the S and P five hundred
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has risen two thousand points. If you listen to us
in April of twenty twenty five, not that long ago.
I remember it well because we said maybe some of
the crew can pull it. Hey, stay calm if you
happen to have a little bit of extra cash. Now
is a time, probably over the course of the next
few years, that you'll look back and say, boy, I
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wish I had well. Your four oh one k is
at a record high, your pensions are at record highs.
Never in the history of the nation has the stock
market been in a better position than it is right
now as it is surging. And one reason is surging, Buck,
is because inflation. It's like a record scratch. Stop me.
(02:31):
If you've heard this before came in below what the
experts were anticipating. This is CNBC's Rick Santelli just a
few hours ago as the newest numbers were released. That
has helped you propel the stock market to a new high.
And by the way, I don't know, what do you
think seventy percent sixty five percent of people listening to
us right now are exposed to the stock market in
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some way through four oh one maybe higher four oh
one k's private stock, you know, company stock. That's a
fair approximation, buck Well, certainly, yes, but also companies. A
lot of people work for companies that the public stock
has a huge determination in investment and jobs. Ye, so
you know, if IBM is getting crushed, IBM's cutting jobs.
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So whether you have a lot of stock or not,
these things matter. And by the way, there are people
who sell the IBM or who are down the supply chain.
So the market is an imperfect indicator, but it is
a broad indicator of what's going on in the economy,
and oftentimes six months or a year ahead of where
the economy can be because it is a forward looking mechanism. Okay,
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with that in mind, also we are starting to see
we hit new yearly lows on thirty year mortgages fifteen
year mortgages. There now is an expectation next year that
the FED is going to cut rates three different times,
meaning that overall borrowing costs are going to come down.
But here is CNBC's Rick Santelli giving every won the
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data that would help to create a new stock market high.
This happened a few hours ago.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Cut one.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Here's our late but coming out September eight on the
Consumer Price Index headline number up three tents, one tenth,
cooler than both rearview mirror and what we're expecting. And
if we look at the stripping out of food and
energy known as core, it comes in also a bit
less than expected, up two tents. We're expecting up three tents.
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Our last look was up three tents. Here's the moneyball
numbers here over year three percent, and even though it's
less than the three point one we're expecting, it's dred
and two point nine. And after all it's got a
three handle. And if we look at CPI year over
year ex food and energy, it also comes into three percent.
We're also expecting three point one, but last look was
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three point one, so it cooled a bit, so we're
seeing interest rates move down and stocks move up.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
That's a good combo. By the way interest rates down
stocks go going up. That is the Trump economy starting
to take wind and lift. And again I understand people
out there who are still very frustrated over the continued
increase of prices that we saw during the Biden administration.
Things still feel more expensive to you than they should.
(05:17):
Trust me, I feel it too, but positive Also buck
four year low in gas prices and that has helped
Trump I believe, to feel comfortable putting more pressure on
Russia as it pertains to their gas prices because Trump
has got a very good relationship right now with Middle
East oil producing country. So all of that very positive.
(05:38):
As we get ready to roll into a weekend. Wanted
to make sure that I can textualize that, and we
started off Friday on a good foot.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Look at that, getting everybody in the right kind of
mood for a beautiful fall weekend. Mister Clay Travis, for
advance of some of us who are adults will be
dressing up for Halloween, which I assume you will be
this year, or is that not happening.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Well, we're moving so the Laura Travis Halloween party that
has been in existence for the last decade or so
is not happening in normal fashion, But I suspect that
my wife will have something that she has planned for
us to be wearing. As you know, she gives out
I think I've talked about this before on the air.
Every Halloween in my neighborhood, all this I mean, I
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don't know. There's probably a thousand kids that are sure
or treating in my neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
It's super packed.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Parents also walk around and some houses give out parent treats,
and a parent treat might be alcoholic in nature. We
have for the last decade or so, Buck given out
fireball shots on the Travis front porch for twenty one parents. Parents. Yeah,
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we are not getting kids. We're not getting eight year
olds wasted. No, this is parents only. And occasionally my
wife will will request an ID because there are sometimes
teens that will that will decide to be taking around
their their nieces, nephews or maybe little brothers or sisters
and try to try to take advantage of the largeess here.
(07:10):
But I believe that will be going on, and usually
my wife is dressed up when she's passing that out.
So yes, look, I think Halloween is one of the
most fun times a year. Fall October. If you made
me power rank my months, I think October is the
best month of the year. That would be my power ranking.
I don't know what month you would go to.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Overall.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I just think I'm a sports guy. October is the
best sports month. Weather treat leaves, changing, Halloween. It's my
favorite month of the year. May a second, by the way,
all my power rankings so but but my favorite month
of the year. And yes, there's a lot of reason
for optimism across the nation right now.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
As a New Yorker, I would back your October. But
just because I love fall and the temperature and the leaves.
I can't say that it's because I watch much of
the football, but as just the football buck.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You got the World Series and the Major League Baseball
Playoffs going on, and so it's kind of like everything
coming together.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I'm glad to learn of those things. Yeah, but also
because I had forgotten that the World Series was going on.
But then there's it's a Floridian. You gotta love January
the most.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You gotta love you and cocky Floridian because you just
want to how much time do you spend now that
you live in Miami on your iPhone just occasionally flicking
over to check and see what the weather is in
New York when it is January. This is what Floridians
love to brag about, like, oh, what's the temperature where
you live right now? Not just weather Clay. I go
through Instagram and I check out all these shmos all
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over the country who don't live in South Florida in
mid January with a big itchy wool sweater and a
ski parka and a hat with maybe another hat, trudging
through snow. That's when Florida feels like a magical place.
That's when all of a sudden, So January is the
best month in Florida. I would say, I can't say
(09:03):
December because I don't like our Christmas celebrations down here
as much as I because snow and every year to
be like super warm and have like snow globes out
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah you get, you get. The lights around the palm
trees is not as exciting to me as the stuff
you'll see in the colder parts of the country. So
I have to give the month of December to the
more temper, the uh, you know, the seasonal places across
the country. But once January hits and you're done with
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your New Year's celebration and the Christmas and the Hanakah
holidays and everything else, are you walking around in sandals
because US Floridians are? How about August? I really, you know,
it's not as good. If you like melting all the time,
it's fantastic. If you like the constant feel of your
clothing being wet, then South Florida in August is great.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
So I will say there are very few feelings better.
I don't like cold weather, and I understand a lot
of you live in cold weather.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
My wife likes.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
My wife grew up in Detroit, so there are very
few I always say, it's not a vacation unless you
put on fewer clothes when you get off the plane
than you had on when you got on the plane.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Right, I always have to ski?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Well, But I don't. I'm not even a ski guy.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yes, I understand people like that, and ski villages can
be fine. But if you told me, hey, you can
go to a warm beach or a ski village, I'm
picking warm beach every time now. My family doesn't always agree,
so sometimes we end up out there. Look, I'm a Goodletsville,
Tennessee kid. Nobody around me knew how to ski like,
so you know, I'm not Oh no, I'm just scrolling
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through and catching up on Twitter, and I see that
they shared my I was all in an optimistic mood,
and then I find out that my senior class photos
have just been shared by the Clay and Buck Twitter feed.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Here and have you seen this yet?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I'm thirty minutes behind on social media, and this thing
is going to go everywhere.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Oh oh, Clay's hair if you haven't seen it. Clay's
hair was very much what I was describing as the
worst nineties haircut for men, which was very common. I
cannot lie. I think my older brother had it for
a while. There was a period of time, so it's
fun to take a little throwback. We also got a
lot of commentary on the best song of the eighties
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because and that's a fun Friday one. So if you
haven't sent that in yet, you can email us, send
us your takes on that, give us your talkbacks on
that really interesting announcement. Clay. I'm going to come back
to here in a second, because the government shutdown is
actually starting to bite some people. I mean, the government
shutdown is now has to gone on long enough that
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they're running out of money for things including paying people
who should be getting paid, like our troops. And Trump
revealed something that was really interesting earlier today about that,
and I will dive into that here momentarily. But gold,
my friend, has also had a phenomenal year. It's about
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a fifty five percent. Look. Gold can go up, gold
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term view, gold has value and it has proven for
a long time to be a really important part of
diversifying your holdings and your portfolio. Behind the price increased
this gold gold this year is a purchasing effort by
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central banks around the world because they know the printing
presses are still going to have to keep going in
order to fund all the overspending. So now is still
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Speaker 2 (13:35):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. This was quite a
moment President Trump revealing earlier today that for any troops
who are going to be missing a pay check, an
anonymous obviously pro Trump or Trump supporting donor has written
a check to the government for a well, I'll let
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the presidents say it.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
Play a friend of mine talking about donors, A friend
of mine, a man that's great. I'm not going to
use his name unless he lets me do it as
soon as he can tell you about this, But he was.
He called us the other day and he said, I'd
like to contribute any short for you have because of
the Democrat shutdown. I'd like to contribute personally, contribute any
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shortfall you have with the military, because I love the
military and I love the country, and any shortfall, if
there's a short fall, I'll contributed. And today he sent
us a check for one hundred and thirty million dollars.
Sure that I would love to tell you he deserves.
He doesn't really want the recognition, if you want another truth,
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But he gave us a check for one hundred and
thirty million dollars, which was sort of a short fall
you and that's going to go to the military.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Here, Clay, it's quite a check, quite a check to stroke.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
There's not that many people who could stroke that check,
so I think we could probably limit it. What do
you think there, I mean, actually be able to cut
a check for one hundred and thirty million dollars. I
would think there's probably I don't know, a thousand people
in the United States that could actually.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
An Elon maybe man right, I mean clearly has the money.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, No, it would be It would be a great
move if it were Elon. I think it's a great
move for anybody. And I think what Trump is pointing
out here, I could see Elon doing it, but not
wanting the hubbub around him. That's why I thought maybe.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
But that's it. By the way, that's a total guess.
I do not know.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I do believe that this is where the Democrats shut
down is.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Again.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I think they're only calculus is they're worried about Virginia
and they believe Northern Virginia workers are going to show
up because they bought the idea that this is Trump's fault.
They couldn't do anything before the No Kings protest. I
suspect after the election. So what are we talking at now,
ten days basically until the twenty twenty five elections are
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taking place. I suspect they'll probably get a deal done.
But I do at this point have a great deal
of sympathy for the people out there that are living
as much of us are, and certainly as I have,
and you have before paycheck to paycheck, and so if
your paycheck is being held up, even if you know
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you're going to eventually get it with your back pay,
it can be very, very frustrating. For mortgages, for car payments,
for groceries, for general life experiences. Most people can't go
a month without a paycheck, and now we're talking about
that potentially being an holding pattern, and I get why
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that's very frustrating. I think Democrats are playing politics here
and failing when it comes to being able to do
their most basic job. And I give credit, I don't
know if you saw this buck, maybe we can grab
it and play it. Senator Dave McCormick, Republican of Pennsylvania
and Senator John Fetterman, Democrat of Pennsylvania did a statement
on the steps of the capital saying, Hey, this shouldn't
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be partisan in nature. Let's go ahead and open the
government back up and continue to spend as we had
agreed that we were going to spend. And frankly, there
need to be other sane Democrats who come out alongside.
I think there are three buck if I'm not mistaken
right now that have been willing to vote to reopen
the government. On the side of the Senate, you have
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to get to sixty, which means there has to be
seven Democrats that are willing to do it, and I
think three have so far, one from New Hampshire, one
from Michigan, I believe, and one from Sorry, one from Georgia,
one from Pennsylvania, I think, And I know there's been
a lot of votes, so it's a little bit confusing,
but we need seven Democrats essentially to be willing to
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do this to open back up the government.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
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Speaker 1 (18:58):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. The fallout continues.
This is not on my proverbial bingo card. If you
had told me, Hey, what are the odds that FBI
director Cash Patel and ESPN sports commentator Steven A. Smith
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are going to be engaging in a war of words, Buck,
I would have said, I don't really see that coming.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I don't see that very likely.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
So yesterday this is maybe I think you know, we
did the debate recently. Stephen A sometimes has takes where
I say, you know what, I may disagree. This is
one of the dumbest takes I think Stephen A. Smith
has ever had, and yesterday he called it out.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, I just said, if he's gonna talk politics, now,
I was in my world and you should have stuck
the sports on this one. Not a good take, all right,
So here is cut ten. This is what was said yesterday,
and now FBI Director Cash Pateel is firing back. But
I want you guys to hear first again this has
to do with the arrest and the NBA, the mafia,
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the gambling related fraud that was announced and uncovered yesterday
by the FBI as part of the arrest.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
This is what Stephen A. Smith said in response to
that cut in.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
How many times, for one incident after another, have I
said Trump is coming, He's coming. We're gonna say it
on national television again. Bad Bunny is performing at the
Super Bowl and all of a sudden, you hear in
Ice is gonna be there looking to engage in mass
deportations the super Bowl, disrupting things big night for the
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NBA when Beyonna put on a show that has now
been smeared because we're talking about this story. But I've
been saying He's coming, He's coming, because in his eyes,
folks try to throw him in jail. In his eyes,
he's innocent. They try to put me behind balls. I'm
getting everybody he's not playing, and so this in a
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lot of people's eyes. Talk to people in the NBA,
talk to people in the NFL, talk to people in
the world as what they think.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
This is like the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
These are the kind of words that are coming out
of people mouth. It's not a surprise. It's very disheartening,
it's very concerning. We don't know where this is going
to go. But this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Everybody's been embraced themselves.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Okay, that is a ludicrous take. This investigation has been
going on for multiple years. I'm betting that Cash Patel's
response is something of that nature. But here it is
FBI Director Cash Pateel responding to stephen A. Stephen A.
Speaker 8 (21:31):
Smith, the sports commentator, suggested that this was revenge from
the president for all the kind of left wing activism
of the NBA. Your response to that, I'm the FBI director.
I decide which arrested conduct and which not to conduct.
That may be the single dumbest thing I've ever heard
out of anyone in modern history, and I live most
of my time in Washington, DC. It's right up there
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with Adam Schiff. We arrest people for crimes.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Wow, Cash Pateel, that's Laura Ingrams show Fox New who
was last night? I am presuming with that investigation. An
interview with Cash Bettel about the investigation. Here's what I
would say, Buck, because I was on with Hannity last night,
our buddy Sean Hannity, who many of you are going
to hear after this, and he asked me about this.
Here's where I somewhat agree. I think this is a
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tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Man.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I said this on the show.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
First question, I asked you yesterday we were getting into this. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
The more I think about it, did I talk about
it on the show yesterday? Very much. I am not
a good poker player. I do not do math fast
enough candidly to be able to analyze odds in real time.
Some guys and gals have brains that are basically just
calculators and something a card gets flipped over and they
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can immediately say, all the great poker players can, oh,
my odds have changed by four percent. I'm going to
adjust on the fly here what they were doing was
they were using an X ray machine, and I wanted
to play this because I don't think we played this yesterday.
This is a professional poker player, Buck who said two
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years ago on a podcast, Hey, this guy Chauncey Billups,
seventeen year NBA veteran NBA Hall of Famer, these games
are not on the up and up. These are rigged
poker contests. And before we play this, Buck, I would
just ask you this, do you think if the mafia
went through the trouble of doing X ray machines, of
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chandelier cameras, of all this different technology to rig poker games,
do you think they're only doing that with Chauncey Billips
or they are doing this all over the country. And
I've been invited to some of these high end poker games.
I haven't gone because I know I'm the fish, like
I'm the guy who's gonna get taken advantage of. I'm
not good enough at poker. I don't want to just
give my money to these guys playing poker. Here is
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a professional poker player saying Chauncey Billups wasn't even a
very good player, and he was making decisions that make
no sense. When you look at the car on the
table and somehow he was winning all these hands and
all these poker players were talking about this game's not
on the up and up. Listen, I believe we have
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that cut. Let me make sure that we have that cut.
What's the number? We gotta get a number, mister Clay.
This is cut eleven. The discussion about poker. This is
him saying these games were not on the up and up.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
It was all built around Chauncey Pillips. And I had
heard about the game, and the person who told me
about it was like, look, I know the game run is.
I'm telling you one hundred percent this game is on
the up and up. And I was like, well, I
know a lot of the people that are involved, and
I'm telling you one hundred percent that it is not
on the up and up. And you know, we kind
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of went back and forth and I agreed that, like
I just wasn't gonna go play it, but I I
had some friends who went and played at both in
LA and in Vegas, and it obviously, like was for
sure confirmed to be cheated. Like people who clearly didn't
even understand the rules of no limit hold them are
just like jamming hundreds of big Linds in with like
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a gutty, and then it only the pros are losing.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I don't even know that mean two years ago.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Okay, So what he was saying is, you know, everything
is probability, and a gutty is like, hey, I've got
a gut instinct about what the next card that's going
to pop up is. And if you just go on
gut instinct, overtime probability is going to win out. So
he was saying, I mean, it would be the equivalent
if you play blackjack and you have eighteen and you're like, man,
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I just got I got a really good feeling that
three is going to be the next one up, and
you hit and a three hits and people are like,
you know, you're doing statistically improbable things, and they keep
happening over time, and these professional poker players are sitting
there like, wait a minute, this should never be happening.
This is two years ago. That guy was saying this publicly.
That is, by the way, Matt Burkie, a pro poker player, Well.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I just think that one, yeah, the mob is doing
this more than in what we've already heard about. I
would I would make a bet on that yes, And
I don't know. I think that you're gonna see a
lot more of this come to light. I also lack
the I don't know if it's the gene, the predilection,
(26:37):
the I don't enjoy like like card games like this.
I don't know. And I know this has been a
thing that people like to do. I don't understand how
it's like, I really just mean this. I don't understand
how it is fun impolitely lack. I I really like it.
I think sitting at a table with cards in my
hands and losing money because I absolutely would lose money
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because I don't know what I'm doing is I don't
understand how that's. This is why Vegas for me, when
I go to By the Way, I like Vegas. I
just like the food, the people, the shows. You know,
I'm I don't do the the the all the different
gambling stuff when I'm there. I also think it's kind
of tells you a lot that in these places the
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they can shut you down because you're doing too well.
They can just say they can say you're counting cards. Well,
that's just another way of saying you're doing too well.
And they don't want you there because statistically you're supposed
to be losing money. Right, So again back to the
card game component of this. Even if you get on
a hot streak, if you start to do too well,
and I mean unless I'm missing something, that casino can
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just be like we think you're card counting, are out?
You're out of here? Right?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, no they don't. I mean, look, great movie that is,
you know, bringing down the House. I don't remember what
it was called. Great book about the MIT card counters
in blackjack if you just want to be entertained with
a fun book. They just figured out that they could
count cards. And there's a relatively rare period of time
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in blackjack when the cut, when the decks are actually
in your favor, and basically it has to do with
there's more face cards left. And again I'm not a
card counter because I'm not good enough at math and
my brain doesn't work that way. Now you're not an
MIT math genius who have figured this out. It would
be it would be great to be an MIT mat genius.
I am not a math genius or even probably like
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a community college math genius, much less an MIT mat genius.
But yeah, you're right, like they get caught every now
and then, and you can be banned from a casino now.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
But what I'm saying is getting caught, you're not actually
doing anything other than what's in your between your own
ears with card now, and they just they just can
make that claim.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Sometimes there are teams because the player will be getting signaled.
It's actually a really great book. Bringing down the House,
I think is what it's called. And these guys won
millions and millions of dollars, and yes, like what they'll
do is monitor your bets and say, yeah, this is
card counting, like it's irregular the way that they're putting
money on the table and everything else. The movie version
(29:13):
of this, by the way, is twenty one, and it's
pretty entertaining. But the book, I think Rounders or twenty
one a better movie. Uh well, Rounders is a poker game.
Twenty one is a blackjack game.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
We're gonna we're creating separate film categories from poker and
black No.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
No, I mean I think Rounders, like poker is in theory,
there is no house advantage on poker right like you
could be And which is a better movie. I think
Rounder is a better movie by far better movie Roder
is actually a pretty good movie.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Because as soon as I read this yesterday about the
Chauncey Billups all this stuff that's going on with this
big h you know, FBI announcement of the fraud and
everything else. Was the Molly's Game movie with Jessica Chastain,
which some of you, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Said that when you were talking about that one yesterday
you haven't.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Seen, you know, I feel like you definitely need to
see that wind There was a tractive lady who said something,
I'm sold very high end, very high end poker games.
She runs very high end poker games, and big surprise,
the mob is like this is not okay, and she
gets into trouble. There was a period you may find
this to be true, although streaming has altered the trajectory
(30:24):
of this a bit. Laura and I saw every movie,
and then we had kids, and there was like nine
years where we just didn't go to the movie theater
very often. So there's about a nine or ten year
gap there where my boys were really young and streaming
had not become the case where you could easily get
every movie at home nowadays, like with you guys, like
I don't know what are movies in theaters for three
(30:46):
weeks and then you can basically watch them whenever you want.
I used to only Carrie and I used to sit
and when we're done for the day. I'm very I'm
very I share this with people. I just think that,
you know, one it depends how big your house is.
Our house is not very big. But one TV should
be enough, like there's a TV that you go to
(31:06):
to watch. I know people get very mad at me
for this, very mad at me, but I just think
one TV is enough. But we had our one TV
in the living room and we would watch at night.
And now Clay that I'm fully into the into the
parent thing here. What I find is that when I'm
done changing diapers and one ESI's and and all that
sort of stuff, cleaning up after dinner, sometimes I just
(31:28):
want to sit in the couch and the baby's gone
to bed. I just want to sit on the couch
in silence, just like just be there, just be present
and not have to do anything for like ten minutes.
For like ten minutes, we need.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
To grab the Joe Flacco clip that went viral yesterday.
Joe Flacco is now the quarterback of the Cleveland Browns,
and I think a lot of people out there will
understand it. He's got I think five kids or something
now and sorry. He was the quarterback Cleveland Browns and
now the quarterback in Cincinnati Bengals. And they said, hey,
is it hard your family's still in New Jersey's like,
is it hard, you know, living away from them? And
(32:02):
he said, he paraphrased, he said, you know, when I
was a younger guy, I would go out to a
restaurant or a bar and I would see a guy
sitting there by himself having a meal or having a drink,
and I would think, man, that guy must be the
saddest person on the planet. And he said, now he's like,
I am that guy out at the bar and I
got to order the restaurant. He's like, I gotta tell
you it's it's it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Oh it's amazing. Oh my god, I didn't know about
We gotta find this clip. I just had like this clip.
When I visited you in Nashville, I just had uh
or you know, we we we met up before we
went to Woo. I sat at a place in the gulch,
sat alone at the bar. It's magnificent. I just ordered
exactly what I wanted. No one bothered me. It was
(32:44):
just so nice. Anything.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I will tell you, when you become a dad or
a mom and you got big families everywhere, and you're
out and you eat one meal, you're like, man, food's
cheap because you're not paying for five or six people
or whatever. That Also, I did not get hit with
pureade peas anywhere during this experience, so it was interesting.
We'll grab that clip because I think there's probably a
lot of dads and moms out there that are going
to nod along with Joe Flacco in the meantime. Look,
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Speaker 2 (34:25):
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not heard it yet. This Joe Flacco wisdom about eating
alone Play thirty five.
Speaker 9 (35:09):
I think there's always a challenge of sitting in a
room by yourself and being lonely. So for me, it's
trying to find ways to maybe stay over here a
little bit longer, and then you know, just kind of
take myself out of that mindset, call home, go sit
at a restaurant by myself and realize that, man, that's
pretty enjoyable to do.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
You know.
Speaker 9 (35:31):
After there's not too many situations. I tell you, I
tell people all the time. I used to see guys
sitting at a bar by themselves, or you know, just
sitting by themselves eating and grabbing a little meal, and
I'm like, man, I feel so bad for that guy.
You almost want to go join them. And now I realize,
like that dude was in heaven, and not to say
(35:51):
that that's that's obviously not what I want. I'd rather
I'd rather be at home, sitting at the dinner table
with my kids and hearing what they o they were
talking about all day. But there are but but if
you have to do it, then you might as well
take advantage of it.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Dinner alone at a bar is a great thing once
in a while, eat family, eat, you know, have family
dinner every night you can. But if you're on the
road for work, Clay, I gotta tell you, very peaceful,
very nice.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
It's also so much more affordable. I've been on the
road a lot for work and I will get a
nice fake and a nice you know, maybe a nice
old fashion with it, and you know, some big fry
steak fries, and I get the bill and I'm like, man,
this is this is It's amazing, just because when you're
used and I know a lot of people out there
know what I'm talking about, when you're used to paying
(36:41):
for the entire family to go anywhere, it's super expensive
and uh yeah, it's not a bad not a bad
thing there uh heaven. As Joe Flacko might say, we'll
have some more heavenly show for you coming back top
of the next hour. As we roll through the Friday
edition of the program,
Welcome in. It is Friday. Rejoice. We are going to
have an awesome day with all of you. We appreciate
all of you across the country on our five hundred
and fifty five some odd stations hanging out. You can
also find us every single social media platform out there,
and soon you'll be able to watch three hours of
(00:21):
the show. And I'm already I'm not gonna lie. I'm
a little bit nervous about that. We got to make
sure the lighting's deason because three hours on camera is
a long time on camera. But you will soon have
the ability to hang out with us on camera as well.
And we have got a ton of different news stories
out there. Our good friend Big Tish Letitia James has
(00:44):
pled not guilty to her mortgage fraud charges. We will
play some of that for all of you, and we've
got a bunch to dive into. But I thought I
would start with a very positive thing because I do think,
as we were talking about yesterday, and as we have
talked about quite a few days, this is one of
(01:05):
the greatest years in the history of our nation. If
you are saying, as President Trump is just making everything better,
and as I am talking to all of you, Buck,
we have set another all time record in the stock market.
It wasn't very long ago April, in fact, that we
(01:26):
were in a position where everybody out there was panicked
and they were saying, oh my goodness, with these tariffs,
the American economy may collapse. There's no telling how bad
things could get. Run for the hills, there's no reason
to be in any way optimistic about the fate of
the country. Since then, the S and P five hundred
(01:48):
has risen two thousand points. If you listen to us
in April of twenty twenty five, not that long ago.
I remember it well because we said maybe some of
the crew can pull it. Hey, stay calm if you
happen to have a little bit of extra cash. Now
is a time, probably over the course of the next
few years, that you'll look back and say, boy, I
(02:09):
wish I had well. Your four oh one k is
at a record high, your pensions are at record highs.
Never in the history of the nation has the stock
market been in a better position than it is right
now as it is surging. And one reason is surging, Buck,
is because inflation. It's like a record scratch. Stop me.
(02:31):
If you've heard this before came in below what the
experts were anticipating. This is CNBC's Rick Santelli just a
few hours ago as the newest numbers were released. That
has helped you propel the stock market to a new high.
And by the way, I don't know, what do you
think seventy percent sixty five percent of people listening to
us right now are exposed to the stock market in
(02:52):
some way through four oh one maybe higher four oh
one k's private stock, you know, company stock. That's a
fair approximation, buck Well, certainly, yes, but also companies. A
lot of people work for companies that the public stock
has a huge determination in investment and jobs. Ye, so
you know, if IBM is getting crushed, IBM's cutting jobs.
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So whether you have a lot of stock or not,
these things matter. And by the way, there are people
who sell the IBM or who are down the supply chain.
So the market is an imperfect indicator, but it is
a broad indicator of what's going on in the economy,
and oftentimes six months or a year ahead of where
the economy can be because it is a forward looking mechanism. Okay,
(03:38):
with that in mind, also we are starting to see
we hit new yearly lows on thirty year mortgages fifteen
year mortgages. There now is an expectation next year that
the FED is going to cut rates three different times,
meaning that overall borrowing costs are going to come down.
But here is CNBC's Rick Santelli giving every won the
(04:00):
data that would help to create a new stock market high.
This happened a few hours ago.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Cut one.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Here's our late but coming out September eight on the
Consumer Price Index headline number up three tents, one tenth,
cooler than both rearview mirror and what we're expecting. And
if we look at the stripping out of food and
energy known as core, it comes in also a bit
less than expected, up two tents. We're expecting up three tents.
(04:27):
Our last look was up three tents. Here's the moneyball
numbers here over year three percent, and even though it's
less than the three point one we're expecting, it's dred
and two point nine. And after all it's got a
three handle. And if we look at CPI year over
year ex food and energy, it also comes into three percent.
We're also expecting three point one, but last look was
(04:50):
three point one, so it cooled a bit, so we're
seeing interest rates move down and stocks move up.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
That's a good combo. By the way interest rates down
stocks go going up. That is the Trump economy starting
to take wind and lift. And again I understand people
out there who are still very frustrated over the continued
increase of prices that we saw during the Biden administration.
Things still feel more expensive to you than they should.
(05:17):
Trust me, I feel it too, but positive Also buck
four year low in gas prices and that has helped
Trump I believe, to feel comfortable putting more pressure on
Russia as it pertains to their gas prices because Trump
has got a very good relationship right now with Middle
East oil producing country. So all of that very positive.
(05:38):
As we get ready to roll into a weekend. Wanted
to make sure that I can textualize that, and we
started off Friday on a good foot.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Look at that, getting everybody in the right kind of
mood for a beautiful fall weekend. Mister Clay Travis, for
advance of some of us who are adults will be
dressing up for Halloween, which I assume you will be
this year, or is that not happening.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Well, we're moving so the Laura Travis Halloween party that
has been in existence for the last decade or so
is not happening in normal fashion, But I suspect that
my wife will have something that she has planned for
us to be wearing. As you know, she gives out
I think I've talked about this before on the air.
Every Halloween in my neighborhood, all this I mean, I
(06:23):
don't know. There's probably a thousand kids that are sure
or treating in my neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
It's super packed.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Parents also walk around and some houses give out parent treats,
and a parent treat might be alcoholic in nature. We
have for the last decade or so, Buck given out
fireball shots on the Travis front porch for twenty one parents. Parents. Yeah,
(06:48):
we are not getting kids. We're not getting eight year
olds wasted. No, this is parents only. And occasionally my
wife will will request an ID because there are sometimes
teens that will that will decide to be taking around
their their nieces, nephews or maybe little brothers or sisters
and try to try to take advantage of the largeess here.
(07:10):
But I believe that will be going on, and usually
my wife is dressed up when she's passing that out.
So yes, look, I think Halloween is one of the
most fun times a year. Fall October. If you made
me power rank my months, I think October is the
best month of the year. That would be my power ranking.
I don't know what month you would go to.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Overall.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I just think I'm a sports guy. October is the
best sports month. Weather treat leaves, changing, Halloween. It's my
favorite month of the year. May a second, by the way,
all my power rankings so but but my favorite month
of the year. And yes, there's a lot of reason
for optimism across the nation right now.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
As a New Yorker, I would back your October. But
just because I love fall and the temperature and the leaves.
I can't say that it's because I watch much of
the football, but as just the football buck.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You got the World Series and the Major League Baseball
Playoffs going on, and so it's kind of like everything
coming together.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I'm glad to learn of those things. Yeah, but also
because I had forgotten that the World Series was going on.
But then there's it's a Floridian. You gotta love January
the most.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You gotta love you and cocky Floridian because you just
want to how much time do you spend now that
you live in Miami on your iPhone just occasionally flicking
over to check and see what the weather is in
New York when it is January. This is what Floridians
love to brag about, like, oh, what's the temperature where
you live right now? Not just weather Clay. I go
through Instagram and I check out all these shmos all
(08:43):
over the country who don't live in South Florida in
mid January with a big itchy wool sweater and a
ski parka and a hat with maybe another hat, trudging
through snow. That's when Florida feels like a magical place.
That's when all of a sudden, So January is the
best month in Florida. I would say, I can't say
(09:03):
December because I don't like our Christmas celebrations down here
as much as I because snow and every year to
be like super warm and have like snow globes out
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah you get, you get. The lights around the palm
trees is not as exciting to me as the stuff
you'll see in the colder parts of the country. So
I have to give the month of December to the
more temper, the uh, you know, the seasonal places across
the country. But once January hits and you're done with
(09:33):
your New Year's celebration and the Christmas and the Hanakah
holidays and everything else, are you walking around in sandals
because US Floridians are? How about August? I really, you know,
it's not as good. If you like melting all the time,
it's fantastic. If you like the constant feel of your
clothing being wet, then South Florida in August is great.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
So I will say there are very few feelings better.
I don't like cold weather, and I understand a lot
of you live in cold weather.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
My wife likes.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
My wife grew up in Detroit, so there are very
few I always say, it's not a vacation unless you
put on fewer clothes when you get off the plane
than you had on when you got on the plane.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Right, I always have to ski?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Well, But I don't. I'm not even a ski guy.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yes, I understand people like that, and ski villages can
be fine. But if you told me, hey, you can
go to a warm beach or a ski village, I'm
picking warm beach every time now. My family doesn't always agree,
so sometimes we end up out there. Look, I'm a Goodletsville,
Tennessee kid. Nobody around me knew how to ski like,
so you know, I'm not Oh no, I'm just scrolling
(10:40):
through and catching up on Twitter, and I see that
they shared my I was all in an optimistic mood,
and then I find out that my senior class photos
have just been shared by the Clay and Buck Twitter feed.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Here and have you seen this yet?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I'm thirty minutes behind on social media, and this thing
is going to go everywhere.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Oh oh, Clay's hair if you haven't seen it. Clay's
hair was very much what I was describing as the
worst nineties haircut for men, which was very common. I
cannot lie. I think my older brother had it for
a while. There was a period of time, so it's
fun to take a little throwback. We also got a
lot of commentary on the best song of the eighties
(11:20):
because and that's a fun Friday one. So if you
haven't sent that in yet, you can email us, send
us your takes on that, give us your talkbacks on
that really interesting announcement. Clay. I'm going to come back
to here in a second, because the government shutdown is
actually starting to bite some people. I mean, the government
shutdown is now has to gone on long enough that
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they're running out of money for things including paying people
who should be getting paid, like our troops. And Trump
revealed something that was really interesting earlier today about that,
and I will dive into that here momentarily. But gold,
my friend, has also had a phenomenal year. It's about
(12:02):
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can go down, but if you look over the long
term view, gold has value and it has proven for
a long time to be a really important part of
diversifying your holdings and your portfolio. Behind the price increased
this gold gold this year is a purchasing effort by
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central banks around the world because they know the printing
presses are still going to have to keep going in
order to fund all the overspending. So now is still
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Speaker 2 (13:35):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. This was quite a
moment President Trump revealing earlier today that for any troops
who are going to be missing a pay check, an
anonymous obviously pro Trump or Trump supporting donor has written
a check to the government for a well, I'll let
(13:59):
the presidents say it.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
Play a friend of mine talking about donors, A friend
of mine, a man that's great. I'm not going to
use his name unless he lets me do it as
soon as he can tell you about this, But he was.
He called us the other day and he said, I'd
like to contribute any short for you have because of
the Democrat shutdown. I'd like to contribute personally, contribute any
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shortfall you have with the military, because I love the
military and I love the country, and any shortfall, if
there's a short fall, I'll contributed. And today he sent
us a check for one hundred and thirty million dollars.
Sure that I would love to tell you he deserves.
He doesn't really want the recognition, if you want another truth,
(14:41):
But he gave us a check for one hundred and
thirty million dollars, which was sort of a short fall
you and that's going to go to the military.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Here, Clay, it's quite a check, quite a check to stroke.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
There's not that many people who could stroke that check,
so I think we could probably limit it. What do
you think there, I mean, actually be able to cut
a check for one hundred and thirty million dollars. I
would think there's probably I don't know, a thousand people
in the United States that could actually.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
An Elon maybe man right, I mean clearly has the money.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, No, it would be It would be a great
move if it were Elon. I think it's a great
move for anybody. And I think what Trump is pointing
out here, I could see Elon doing it, but not
wanting the hubbub around him. That's why I thought maybe.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
But that's it. By the way, that's a total guess.
I do not know.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I do believe that this is where the Democrats shut
down is.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Again.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I think they're only calculus is they're worried about Virginia
and they believe Northern Virginia workers are going to show
up because they bought the idea that this is Trump's fault.
They couldn't do anything before the No Kings protest. I
suspect after the election. So what are we talking at now,
ten days basically until the twenty twenty five elections are
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taking place. I suspect they'll probably get a deal done.
But I do at this point have a great deal
of sympathy for the people out there that are living
as much of us are, and certainly as I have,
and you have before paycheck to paycheck, and so if
your paycheck is being held up, even if you know
(16:17):
you're going to eventually get it with your back pay,
it can be very, very frustrating. For mortgages, for car payments,
for groceries, for general life experiences. Most people can't go
a month without a paycheck, and now we're talking about
that potentially being an holding pattern, and I get why
(16:38):
that's very frustrating. I think Democrats are playing politics here
and failing when it comes to being able to do
their most basic job. And I give credit, I don't
know if you saw this buck, maybe we can grab
it and play it. Senator Dave McCormick, Republican of Pennsylvania
and Senator John Fetterman, Democrat of Pennsylvania did a statement
on the steps of the capital saying, Hey, this shouldn't
(17:01):
be partisan in nature. Let's go ahead and open the
government back up and continue to spend as we had
agreed that we were going to spend. And frankly, there
need to be other sane Democrats who come out alongside.
I think there are three buck if I'm not mistaken
right now that have been willing to vote to reopen
the government. On the side of the Senate, you have
(17:22):
to get to sixty, which means there has to be
seven Democrats that are willing to do it, and I
think three have so far, one from New Hampshire, one
from Michigan, I believe, and one from Sorry, one from Georgia,
one from Pennsylvania, I think, And I know there's been
a lot of votes, so it's a little bit confusing,
but we need seven Democrats essentially to be willing to
(17:44):
do this to open back up the government.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
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Speaker 1 (18:58):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. The fallout continues.
This is not on my proverbial bingo card. If you
had told me, Hey, what are the odds that FBI
director Cash Patel and ESPN sports commentator Steven A. Smith
(19:18):
are going to be engaging in a war of words, Buck,
I would have said, I don't really see that coming.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I don't see that very likely.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
So yesterday this is maybe I think you know, we
did the debate recently. Stephen A sometimes has takes where
I say, you know what, I may disagree. This is
one of the dumbest takes I think Stephen A. Smith
has ever had, and yesterday he called it out.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, I just said, if he's gonna talk politics, now,
I was in my world and you should have stuck
the sports on this one. Not a good take, all right,
So here is cut ten. This is what was said yesterday,
and now FBI Director Cash Pateel is firing back. But
I want you guys to hear first again this has
to do with the arrest and the NBA, the mafia,
(20:02):
the gambling related fraud that was announced and uncovered yesterday
by the FBI as part of the arrest.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
This is what Stephen A. Smith said in response to
that cut in.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
How many times, for one incident after another, have I
said Trump is coming, He's coming. We're gonna say it
on national television again. Bad Bunny is performing at the
Super Bowl and all of a sudden, you hear in
Ice is gonna be there looking to engage in mass
deportations the super Bowl, disrupting things big night for the
(20:33):
NBA when Beyonna put on a show that has now
been smeared because we're talking about this story. But I've
been saying He's coming, He's coming, because in his eyes,
folks try to throw him in jail. In his eyes,
he's innocent. They try to put me behind balls. I'm
getting everybody he's not playing, and so this in a
(20:54):
lot of people's eyes. Talk to people in the NBA,
talk to people in the NFL, talk to people in
the world as what they think.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
This is like the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
These are the kind of words that are coming out
of people mouth. It's not a surprise. It's very disheartening,
it's very concerning. We don't know where this is going
to go. But this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Everybody's been embraced themselves.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Okay, that is a ludicrous take. This investigation has been
going on for multiple years. I'm betting that Cash Patel's
response is something of that nature. But here it is
FBI Director Cash Pateel responding to stephen A. Stephen A.
Speaker 8 (21:31):
Smith, the sports commentator, suggested that this was revenge from
the president for all the kind of left wing activism
of the NBA. Your response to that, I'm the FBI director.
I decide which arrested conduct and which not to conduct.
That may be the single dumbest thing I've ever heard
out of anyone in modern history, and I live most
of my time in Washington, DC. It's right up there
(21:52):
with Adam Schiff. We arrest people for crimes.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Wow, Cash Pateel, that's Laura Ingrams show Fox New who
was last night? I am presuming with that investigation. An
interview with Cash Bettel about the investigation. Here's what I
would say, Buck, because I was on with Hannity last night,
our buddy Sean Hannity, who many of you are going
to hear after this, and he asked me about this.
Here's where I somewhat agree. I think this is a
(22:18):
tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Man.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I said this on the show.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
First question, I asked you yesterday we were getting into this. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
The more I think about it, did I talk about
it on the show yesterday? Very much. I am not
a good poker player. I do not do math fast
enough candidly to be able to analyze odds in real time.
Some guys and gals have brains that are basically just
calculators and something a card gets flipped over and they
(22:46):
can immediately say, all the great poker players can, oh,
my odds have changed by four percent. I'm going to
adjust on the fly here what they were doing was
they were using an X ray machine, and I wanted
to play this because I don't think we played this yesterday.
This is a professional poker player, Buck who said two
(23:06):
years ago on a podcast, Hey, this guy Chauncey Billups,
seventeen year NBA veteran NBA Hall of Famer, these games
are not on the up and up. These are rigged
poker contests. And before we play this, Buck, I would
just ask you this, do you think if the mafia
went through the trouble of doing X ray machines, of
(23:28):
chandelier cameras, of all this different technology to rig poker games,
do you think they're only doing that with Chauncey Billips
or they are doing this all over the country. And
I've been invited to some of these high end poker games.
I haven't gone because I know I'm the fish, like
I'm the guy who's gonna get taken advantage of. I'm
not good enough at poker. I don't want to just
give my money to these guys playing poker. Here is
(23:51):
a professional poker player saying Chauncey Billups wasn't even a
very good player, and he was making decisions that make
no sense. When you look at the car on the
table and somehow he was winning all these hands and
all these poker players were talking about this game's not
on the up and up. Listen, I believe we have
(24:15):
that cut. Let me make sure that we have that cut.
What's the number? We gotta get a number, mister Clay.
This is cut eleven. The discussion about poker. This is
him saying these games were not on the up and up.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
It was all built around Chauncey Pillips. And I had
heard about the game, and the person who told me
about it was like, look, I know the game run is.
I'm telling you one hundred percent this game is on
the up and up. And I was like, well, I
know a lot of the people that are involved, and
I'm telling you one hundred percent that it is not
on the up and up. And you know, we kind
(24:56):
of went back and forth and I agreed that, like
I just wasn't gonna go play it, but I I
had some friends who went and played at both in
LA and in Vegas, and it obviously, like was for
sure confirmed to be cheated. Like people who clearly didn't
even understand the rules of no limit hold them are
just like jamming hundreds of big Linds in with like
(25:19):
a gutty, and then it only the pros are losing.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I don't even know that mean two years ago.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Okay, So what he was saying is, you know, everything
is probability, and a gutty is like, hey, I've got
a gut instinct about what the next card that's going
to pop up is. And if you just go on
gut instinct, overtime probability is going to win out. So
he was saying, I mean, it would be the equivalent
if you play blackjack and you have eighteen and you're like, man,
(25:50):
I just got I got a really good feeling that
three is going to be the next one up, and
you hit and a three hits and people are like,
you know, you're doing statistically improbable things, and they keep
happening over time, and these professional poker players are sitting
there like, wait a minute, this should never be happening.
This is two years ago. That guy was saying this publicly.
That is, by the way, Matt Burkie, a pro poker player, Well.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I just think that one, yeah, the mob is doing
this more than in what we've already heard about. I
would I would make a bet on that yes, And
I don't know. I think that you're gonna see a
lot more of this come to light. I also lack
the I don't know if it's the gene, the predilection,
(26:37):
the I don't enjoy like like card games like this.
I don't know. And I know this has been a
thing that people like to do. I don't understand how
it's like, I really just mean this. I don't understand
how it is fun impolitely lack. I I really like it.
I think sitting at a table with cards in my
hands and losing money because I absolutely would lose money
(27:00):
because I don't know what I'm doing is I don't
understand how that's. This is why Vegas for me, when
I go to By the Way, I like Vegas. I
just like the food, the people, the shows. You know,
I'm I don't do the the the all the different
gambling stuff when I'm there. I also think it's kind
of tells you a lot that in these places the
(27:21):
they can shut you down because you're doing too well.
They can just say they can say you're counting cards. Well,
that's just another way of saying you're doing too well.
And they don't want you there because statistically you're supposed
to be losing money. Right, So again back to the
card game component of this. Even if you get on
a hot streak, if you start to do too well,
and I mean unless I'm missing something, that casino can
(27:44):
just be like we think you're card counting, are out?
You're out of here? Right?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, no they don't. I mean, look, great movie that is,
you know, bringing down the House. I don't remember what
it was called. Great book about the MIT card counters
in blackjack if you just want to be entertained with
a fun book. They just figured out that they could
count cards. And there's a relatively rare period of time
(28:08):
in blackjack when the cut, when the decks are actually
in your favor, and basically it has to do with
there's more face cards left. And again I'm not a
card counter because I'm not good enough at math and
my brain doesn't work that way. Now you're not an
MIT math genius who have figured this out. It would
be it would be great to be an MIT mat genius.
I am not a math genius or even probably like
(28:30):
a community college math genius, much less an MIT mat genius.
But yeah, you're right, like they get caught every now
and then, and you can be banned from a casino now.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
But what I'm saying is getting caught, you're not actually
doing anything other than what's in your between your own
ears with card now, and they just they just can
make that claim.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Sometimes there are teams because the player will be getting signaled.
It's actually a really great book. Bringing down the House,
I think is what it's called. And these guys won
millions and millions of dollars, and yes, like what they'll
do is monitor your bets and say, yeah, this is
card counting, like it's irregular the way that they're putting
money on the table and everything else. The movie version
(29:13):
of this, by the way, is twenty one, and it's
pretty entertaining. But the book, I think Rounders or twenty
one a better movie. Uh well, Rounders is a poker game.
Twenty one is a blackjack game.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
We're gonna we're creating separate film categories from poker and
black No.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
No, I mean I think Rounders, like poker is in theory,
there is no house advantage on poker right like you
could be And which is a better movie. I think
Rounder is a better movie by far better movie Roder
is actually a pretty good movie.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Because as soon as I read this yesterday about the
Chauncey Billups all this stuff that's going on with this
big h you know, FBI announcement of the fraud and
everything else. Was the Molly's Game movie with Jessica Chastain,
which some of you, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Said that when you were talking about that one yesterday
you haven't.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Seen, you know, I feel like you definitely need to
see that wind There was a tractive lady who said something,
I'm sold very high end, very high end poker games.
She runs very high end poker games, and big surprise,
the mob is like this is not okay, and she
gets into trouble. There was a period you may find
this to be true, although streaming has altered the trajectory
(30:24):
of this a bit. Laura and I saw every movie,
and then we had kids, and there was like nine
years where we just didn't go to the movie theater
very often. So there's about a nine or ten year
gap there where my boys were really young and streaming
had not become the case where you could easily get
every movie at home nowadays, like with you guys, like
I don't know what are movies in theaters for three
(30:46):
weeks and then you can basically watch them whenever you want.
I used to only Carrie and I used to sit
and when we're done for the day. I'm very I'm
very I share this with people. I just think that,
you know, one it depends how big your house is.
Our house is not very big. But one TV should
be enough, like there's a TV that you go to
(31:06):
to watch. I know people get very mad at me
for this, very mad at me, but I just think
one TV is enough. But we had our one TV
in the living room and we would watch at night.
And now Clay that I'm fully into the into the
parent thing here. What I find is that when I'm
done changing diapers and one ESI's and and all that
sort of stuff, cleaning up after dinner, sometimes I just
(31:28):
want to sit in the couch and the baby's gone
to bed. I just want to sit on the couch
in silence, just like just be there, just be present
and not have to do anything for like ten minutes.
For like ten minutes, we need.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
To grab the Joe Flacco clip that went viral yesterday.
Joe Flacco is now the quarterback of the Cleveland Browns,
and I think a lot of people out there will
understand it. He's got I think five kids or something
now and sorry. He was the quarterback Cleveland Browns and
now the quarterback in Cincinnati Bengals. And they said, hey,
is it hard your family's still in New Jersey's like,
is it hard, you know, living away from them? And
(32:02):
he said, he paraphrased, he said, you know, when I
was a younger guy, I would go out to a
restaurant or a bar and I would see a guy
sitting there by himself having a meal or having a drink,
and I would think, man, that guy must be the
saddest person on the planet. And he said, now he's like,
I am that guy out at the bar and I
got to order the restaurant. He's like, I gotta tell
you it's it's it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Oh it's amazing. Oh my god, I didn't know about
We gotta find this clip. I just had like this clip.
When I visited you in Nashville, I just had uh
or you know, we we we met up before we
went to Woo. I sat at a place in the gulch,
sat alone at the bar. It's magnificent. I just ordered
exactly what I wanted. No one bothered me. It was
(32:44):
just so nice. Anything.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I will tell you, when you become a dad or
a mom and you got big families everywhere, and you're
out and you eat one meal, you're like, man, food's
cheap because you're not paying for five or six people
or whatever. That Also, I did not get hit with
pureade peas anywhere during this experience, so it was interesting.
We'll grab that clip because I think there's probably a
lot of dads and moms out there that are going
to nod along with Joe Flacco in the meantime. Look,
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Speaker 2 (34:25):
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not heard it yet. This Joe Flacco wisdom about eating
alone Play thirty five.
Speaker 9 (35:09):
I think there's always a challenge of sitting in a
room by yourself and being lonely. So for me, it's
trying to find ways to maybe stay over here a
little bit longer, and then you know, just kind of
take myself out of that mindset, call home, go sit
at a restaurant by myself and realize that, man, that's
pretty enjoyable to do.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
You know.
Speaker 9 (35:31):
After there's not too many situations. I tell you, I
tell people all the time. I used to see guys
sitting at a bar by themselves, or you know, just
sitting by themselves eating and grabbing a little meal, and
I'm like, man, I feel so bad for that guy.
You almost want to go join them. And now I realize,
like that dude was in heaven, and not to say
(35:51):
that that's that's obviously not what I want. I'd rather
I'd rather be at home, sitting at the dinner table
with my kids and hearing what they o they were
talking about all day. But there are but but if
you have to do it, then you might as well
take advantage of it.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Dinner alone at a bar is a great thing once
in a while, eat family, eat, you know, have family
dinner every night you can. But if you're on the
road for work, Clay, I gotta tell you, very peaceful,
very nice.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
It's also so much more affordable. I've been on the
road a lot for work and I will get a
nice fake and a nice you know, maybe a nice
old fashion with it, and you know, some big fry
steak fries, and I get the bill and I'm like, man,
this is this is It's amazing, just because when you're
used and I know a lot of people out there
know what I'm talking about, when you're used to paying
(36:41):
for the entire family to go anywhere, it's super expensive
and uh yeah, it's not a bad not a bad
thing there uh heaven. As Joe Flacko might say, we'll
have some more heavenly show for you coming back top
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