November 7, 2025 • 55 mins
Fight, Fight, Fight
Clay and Buck react to Zohran Mamdani’s recent mayoral win and its implications for the state’s political future. They spotlight Congresswoman Elise Stefanik’s announcement that she’s running for governor of New York, positioning her as a strong Republican alternative to incumbent Democrat Kathy Hochul. The hosts argue that Hochul’s leadership has contributed to rising crime, unaffordable living conditions, and failed bail reform policies—making Stefanik’s candidacy a potential turning point for the Empire State.
National politics also take center stage, with Donald Trump’s blunt remarks on Nancy Pelosi’s retirement drawing praise from the hosts. They frame Pelosi’s departure as symbolic of a broader shift in power and discuss how Trump’s continued influence is reshaping the political landscape. The conversation expands into the ongoing government shutdown, with bipartisan frustration mounting over unpaid federal workers and travel disruptions. Surprisingly, Senator John Fetterman is praised for his pragmatic stance on reopening the government, prompting Clay to reflect on how Fetterman has emerged as a rational voice in Congress.
Escape from New York
Clay and Buck discuss the government shutdown and Donald Trump’s call to end the Senate filibuster to reopen federal operations. Trump also outlines his vision for election reform, including voter ID laws, restrictions on mail-in voting, and a return to single-day voting—topics that resonate strongly with the conservative base.
Clay shares his travel woes amid widespread airline cancellations, receiving support from fans including Southwest and JetBlue pilots offering standby tickets. This sparks a broader conversation about the show’s loyal audience and the challenges of navigating travel during government disruptions. The hosts take calls from listeners grading Trump’s first 10 months in office. Opinions range from a C-minus to an A-plus, with debates over Trump’s handling of the economy, border security, and crime. Buck and Clay defend Trump’s record, citing historic declines in violent crime in cities like Memphis and Washington, D.C., and emphasizing his success in securing the southern border. They argue that inflation and high prices are lingering effects of Biden-era economic mismanagement, not failures of Trump’s current administration. The conversation shifts to the role of artificial intelligence in boosting productivity and long-term economic growth. Buck shares insights from his visit to Taiwan’s TSMC and predicts that AI will transform daily life and improve quality of living, despite current frustrations over inflation and affordability.
Miracles Among Us
A compelling interview with Dr. Marc Siegel, Fox News medical analyst and author of Miracles Among Us. Siegel discusses the intersection of faith and science, recounting miraculous recoveries including DeMar Hamlin’s cardiac arrest on the field and the role of prayer, preparation, and divine intervention in healing. He also shares personal stories and emphasizes the power of hope and spirituality in medicine.
The Great Irony
Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy joins the conversation, defending his department’s decisions amid flight cancellations and staffing shortages. He urges critics to focus on reopening the government rather than blaming the FAA for safety-driven decisions. The hosts also discuss the broader implications of the shutdown, including delayed SNAP benefits and judicial overreach, with Vice President JD Vance criticizing a federal judge’s ruling that mandates executive action during the shutdown. The Affordable Care Act comes under fire as Buck argues that Obamacare has made health insurance so expensive that many Americans now opt out entirely. He calls for transparency in government welfare programs and criticizes the euphemistic language used to describe food assistance, advocating for a return to plain terms like “food stamps.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Oh man, it's
a Friday Rejoice. But I'm looking up at all the news.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
The airlines are just in an uproar. It is the
lead story right now on Fox. I got an email.
I was just joking with people off the air I
got an email from the airline I'm supposed to fly
in a little bit, and they were just like, hey,
basically in the email, we're not really sure the plane's
gonna go take off. You might want to consider other
(00:33):
airlines and just have backup plans in place. It's I
don't know that I've ever gotten emails like this. I mean,
it's one thing to have delays, it's another thing for
your airline to be like, hey, yeah, so we may
or may not be able to take off today. You
might want to have multiple airline flights a different airlines booked.
(00:55):
Oh boy, So I imagine that a lot of you
out there are dealing with this with and family as well.
So that chaos is underway. Let's give me a couple
of positives here, Buck. I know that w R listeners
in New York City have been unhappy with me because
I told you all that we were going to see
(01:16):
an absolute destruction of Curtis Liwa, and that occurred, and
that Mom Donnie was going to win unless he was
going head to head with only one person, even if
it was the awful Andrew Cuomo. But those of you
who have been listening for a while will remember that
I said there was a shining better day to come
(01:37):
for New Yorkers even if Mom Donnie won. And I
said because I really do think it will open the
door to winning a more significant office, which is the
governorship and the governorship of New York with the awful
Kathy Hokel in office, who basically decapitated Andrew Cuomo over
(02:00):
this sexual harassment scandal that wasn't actually in the grand
scheme of things that bad. I mean, what Cuomo did
during COVID was infinitely worse than any of the allegations
against him relating to sexual harassment. So now we have
the awful Kathy Hochel as governor, maybe the worst governor
in America, which is obviously JB. Pritzker, Gretchen Whitmer, Gavin Newsom.
(02:22):
There's a lot of people I think we could toss
out there and say are in that mix. But this
morning on Fox and Friends. I don't think it's coincidental
on her timing. Alis Stephonic, former New York Congressman. She
would have been the ambassador to the UN, but she
decided to go back to Congress to help because the
majority was not very substantial there. She has announced that
(02:43):
she is running for governor to make New York affordable
and safe. She did that this morning, Buck, this was
a positive Let's listen, cut one.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I'm running for governor to make New York affordable and safe.
We have seen decades of single party rule led by Democrats,
and Kathy Hokl is the worst governor in a mayora.
New York is the most unaffordable state in the nation,
with the highest taxes, the highest energy bills, the highest
utility bills. We also have a crime crisis because Kathy
Hochel has brought us failed bail reform and has embraced
(03:12):
the defrom the police, Democrats, and after this week Ainsley,
when we saw a raging anti semi prohamas communist who
wants to raise taxes and frankly he barely won the
majority of New York City voters. Kathy Hokl endorsed him
and bent the Nie. She has failed New Yorkers.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I think that's right.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
And so if you are a frustrated New York voter
right now, if you are a New York City area resident,
and you are thinking to yourself, oh my goodness, this
is awful. Next year the state gets the opportunity to
punch back and react to what happened in New York City.
And I do think that Alice Stephonic would be an
incredible choice for New York. She is infinitely better than
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Kathy Hochel. She's gonna be fighting an uphill battle. But
oftentimes election cycle swing from one direction to another, and
electing a communist in New York City, maybe you want
to elect then a decently reasonable, rational person to be governor.
So I wanted to start with that buck because I
(04:17):
wanted to start with at least some positivity after a
tough week.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
The positivity is I do think this helps a least
stefanic a great deal that Mom Donnie won. It would
be so nice for the Empire state to return to
a place of sanity. You're never going to get Texas
or Florida policies in New York.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Although wouldn't that be nice? But you will be able to,
I think, have a very close contest in the next
governor's race, because one HOCl is terrible and two Stefanic
is a pretty talented and solid choice that's right to
run on the Republican side, So that that is good.
And also to your point about how this has been
a tough week. We lost races we were supposed to lose.
(05:00):
There was no big shock or surprise at all, and
that's just the way it's going to go sometimes. So
we dust ourselves off, we move forward. Remember Trump is
still in charge, He's still doing great things, and one
of them is just pointing out this has cut three
Clay that Nancy Pelosi's retirement is perhaps the greatest act
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of patriotism she has ever she has ever made. Play three.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
I think she's an evil woman. I'm glad she's retiring.
I think she did the country a great service by retire.
I think she was a tremendous liability for the country.
I thought she was an evil woman who did a
poor job to cross the country a lot in damages
and in reputation. I thought she was terrible, Thank you
(05:47):
very much.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I like that he's just letting him rip. Look, she's retiring,
he's not. He's not at a at a at a
situation here where he has to say nice things, and
he's not going to say nice things because those would
be untrue. Nancy Pelosi has been deeply destructive to the country,
and I think it'll be a better place without her
wielding the iron fist of Pelosi over the Democrats in
(06:10):
the House. So let's see that Democrats really are without
Pelosi running cover and keeping them from being completely insane
in public before elections. I do think.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
It has to really gall Nancy Pelosi that she had
to step down as Trump is at his most descendant power.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
That's kind of a you know, chef's kiss.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
If I were Trump advisor there, I would say, you
know what, I love that Nancy Pelosi recognized that it's
time for her to step down, and I couldn't think
it's better for the country that she's leaving the fight
right as she recognizes that I've won all the battles.
I wish Nancy well in retirement, and the biggest loss
(06:57):
we're going to have with Nancy is I've been trying
to figure out how to be as good of an
investor as her. I don't know what we're all gonna
do without having the Nancy Pelosi stock tracker out there
to make us all rich. She's the Warren Buffett of
Congress and really kind of gigger. But I think Trump
genuinely detests her, So that came across in certainly the
(07:20):
answer that he gave in that press conference yesterday. They're
also continuing to battle, by the way, on the government shutdown,
and we'll see. But my thought is that when people
get frustrated at airports, then it's Democrats, it's Republicans, it's independents.
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A lot of people will put up with political shenanigans
until it starts directly impacting their day to day existence.
And for those of us who travel, and those of
us who are trying to pick people up at airports,
and those of us who were just trying to get
around the country, this thing. Can you imagine, buck if
this they extended for another few weeks and we moved
(08:02):
into the Thanksgiving travel season, that would be absolutely bonkers.
It's the most difficult time of year to be traveling anyway,
and then you're gonna layer it on top of people
not getting paid and all of the chaos. And really
the Democrat objectives here have always been very difficult to
(08:23):
explain in a succinct fashion. And they're the ones shutting
down the government. And I feel like they got their
No Kings protests, they got their election wins in New
Jersey and Virginia. There's zero doubt that Virginia was aided
because there's so many federal employees by the fact that
the government shut down happened. Now, let's go ahead and
(08:43):
just open the government back up. And in fact, he's
the same guy. This is exactly what John Fetterman said, Buck,
play cut seven World.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Kitchens feeding government workers. We're in in my neighborhood in
Avy Yard. I mean, it's really impacting these folks. It's
like we've all been paid, but all these workers haven't
been paid. The Capitol police that are protecting here haven't
been paid. Our military. Why that's not controversial. Pay our military,
pay all these folks, and I'll make sure everyone's fed. Now,
(09:15):
why would we put ourselves in that situation at this point?
You know, we've had the election. Now we can all
reopen and I'll find a way forward.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Now, this is kind of crazy, Buck, When you really
break it all down, that maybe the thing that we
were most wrong on the show in four years, aside
from the red Wave twenty twenty two, I never would
have ever believed having watched the twenty twenty two Senate campaigns,
I never would have believed that John Fetterman would end
(09:44):
up one of the most irrational, reasonable, efficient, and effective
senators when it comes to just analyzing basic things like this.
Would you have ever bought in, like if we went
back in time to when he was engaged in the debate,
when he was running against doctor I never would have
ever believed that this could be a situation where Fetterman
(10:06):
were lauding and saying, Hey, this guy is actually one
of the best troop tellers on Capitol Hill. But I
mean everything he just said was eminently reasonable, not particularly partisan,
and rational. And I can't believe I'm saying this, but
we need five or six more John Fetterman's in order
to get the country back up and running and get
(10:26):
the government open.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
What are the Democrats really achieving with all them? Well
that's the question. That's the thing that we're going to
have to look back on when this eventually ends. What
have they gotten I do not think Republicans can give
them what they want, because then you've said a president,
I might add the minority party can say I just
want billions of dollars that have nothing to do with
the actual funding of the government, or else I'm gonna
(10:50):
take my ball and go home, or else I'm I'm
going to stop things from happening in DC. You can't
negotiate with terrorists. Friends, This is congressional terrorism, so to speak.
This is not playing by the pre established rules. So
eventually you're gonna have to just see who has got
(11:10):
the grit, who stays together as a caucus, and I'm
hopeful Republicans stay with it. I do think the one
thing Trump keeps saying, hey, we need the filibuster. You know,
they've moderated the filibuster on an ending the filibuster. They've
moderated the filibuster on a great number of different aspects.
(11:30):
To me, there is a decent argument to be made,
and I think our friend Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin
has made this argument publicly for some time, and in fact,
if he's listening, he's welcome to call in and make
it better than I'm about to make it. But can
we just do away with the ability to shut down
the government and require there be sixty votes to reopen it.
(11:54):
That doesn't seem like the filibuster for many things makes sense.
Should we have a filibuster when it to whether you
can add Supreme Court justices or add senators from New Jersey,
senators from You can't have a minority of the Senate
say sorry, no government business till I get what I want.
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
That would seem like a solution. And look, Republicans may
be frustrated by that somewhere down the line, but the
majority party should be able to keep the government open.
That seems very basic to me, and so you know,
I would love to hear Senator Johnson explain exactly that perspective.
(12:32):
But it seems like a reasonable middle ground that doesn't
require eliminating the entirety of the filibuster, and instead would
just allow government to be open so that we can
all be able to take airplane flights safely, and so
that the soldiers can get paid, and so we make
sure that a lot of people out there who are
(12:55):
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Speaker 4 (14:51):
The second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Now.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Everybody appreciate you being with us. We're having a great
Friday already. UH definitely want to take a lot of
your talk facts, your VIP emails, your live calls of course.
Eight to eight two eight hundred two eight two eight
A two crossed me up? I guys, what I just
forgot my own call number. It's been like two a
(15:14):
two two eight two buck. I said it right, right.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I think you just you you questioned yourself as you
went through it. Every now and then that happens to
me too. One thing that has happened in the era
of smartphones. I it's actually a point of anxiety for me.
I do not know any phone numbers correct. And back
in the day when I when we had old school
answering machines, Remember you sit there and you were like
(15:39):
in college or whatever, or maybe you were a young
guy in your twenties. You had your voicemail and you're like, hey,
I'm not like trying to sound cool, I'm just casual
and want you to leave your message at the beep.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
You know, remember all that stuff. Don't lie to me.
A lot of you did over and over. You did
multiple takes over and over again, of your answering machine voicemail.
Uh so that was very very much a throwback. But yes,
so Clay, let's dive in, shall we. Let's dive into
(16:13):
what Trump is saying about the filibuster, about affordability, about
all of that good stuff. Oh and I was gonna say,
he's back in the day. He's to remember all the
phone numbers too.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I still remember friends from high school's phone number. I
remember my high school phone number to this day. Yes,
but I can't remember any other numbers either, because everything's
in the phone. Uh and you you know, pull up
somebody's name and have no idea. By the way, loaded lines.
A lot of good feedback to coming in. A lot
of people reacting to our boy who called in from
(16:46):
Ohio and gave Trump and f on the first ten months.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's uh, that's that's gonna get the
that's gonna get the folks riled up. Speaking of Trump,
here is he Look he's saying it. He wants the
filibuster ended right now, at least to open the government
that I agree with. Look, you're going to say this
is a bit of a change, Yeah, but this is
a change that we can live with. If. I don't
(17:10):
think Republicans should be able to in minority demand sixty
votes to open the government. Yeah, that's crazy. I think
Democrats should be able to do this in minority either.
This is sabotage of the system that the system did
not predetermine should exist. Here's Trump play four.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Well, I think it's time for them to end a
filibuster and just put everybody back to work. Vote in
voter ID, vote in, no mail in voting except for military,
far away military and people that are very sick. No,
I'd like to see one day voting. I'd like to see,
not sixty five days of voting from all over the place. Though,
(17:48):
I'd like to clean up the elections the border. We've
done a great job. We have a great strong vorder.
Now I'd like to see new rules on immigration that
could be fair and good, you know, close to get
the rules that they're never going to get. There's so
many things we could put in, including tax cuts that
we could get, and we could do it all ourselves. Yeah,
but you to do that, you have to end the.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Philibus clay if Democrats really aren't aren't gonna blink your
The election's over and there doesn't seem to be much
movement from them to reopen the government, and people you
are one of them, are dealing with the realities of
what this means. Now you're supposed to fly today, Yes,
I don't know. I don't know what's gonna happen here,
(18:30):
my friend, you might have to try to, you know,
hit your ride on air force one or something.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
That would be nice, because I bet you could definitely
take off. But I'm I got the email, as I said,
early early today from my travel situation, and they're just
like if it was like somebody telling you, hey, we
may be able to hang out, we might not be
able to hang out. It's really kind of on you.
You might want to make plans to somebody else. It's
(18:57):
like trying to go on a date with somebody who
doesn't really want to go on a date with you,
which you know by the way I've been through that.
I will say this audience is amazing. People are so
kind out there. We got an email from a Southwest pilot.
I heard Clay may have trouble getting out of New York.
I have a standby ticket he can use. This is
a Southwest pilot, and he reached out. I've got a
(19:19):
flight on Southwest. So I am going to right now
be going an hour early on the show so that
I can get out. Maybe I will call and report
from the airport to be able to get back home
and not get left in New York City. It's like
escape from New York City here time. I'm gonna get
back to Nashville. But I've been on a ton of
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Southwest Airlines flights in my life because they go in
and out of Nashville. It's my favorite airline. People pick
on me about it sometimes, but I'm on Southwest all
the time. So many of their flight attendants and now
pilots I have met that are fans of this show,
that are fans of OutKick.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I love that airline. I'm just to be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I love the people that work on Southwest Airlines as
a group, just a fantastic collection of people. And the
fact that one of our listeners out there is a
Southwest pilot and he just reached out and said, hey,
I can help get you on standby on a flight.
I mean, you guys are fantastic. Now, we got a
lot of people who want to weigh in on a
variety of different topics. It's Friday. Let's hit some of
(20:22):
these loaded phone lines. Let's see Dan Bend, Oregon.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Dan, you're a.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Three time Trump voter. We had Jacob call in and
gave him an F. Do you also give him an F?
Speaker 8 (20:35):
No, sir, good morning. I would give him a C
minus though, just because first off, we know Trump's not
a one man show, right. He has an administration of
people he relies upon. So I think from my perspective,
some of the decisions he's making.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Okay, so let me let me pause. You here for
sex C minus. Okay, I don't agree with that rating,
but that is you know, that's not an f right.
I don't think anybody who voted three times for Trump
would give him an F. Honestly, in the first ten months,
why would you give him a C minus? Buck, I'm
gonna be honest with you, I would give him an A.
He's done almost everything that I thought he would do.
He's been more effective and more efficient.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I mean, I don't want to quibble. I might just
say a minus because you can always do a little better.
But I'm right there with you.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
So I'm curious, what, Dan, what has Trump not done
that you anticipated he would do in the first ten
months such that you give him a C minus?
Speaker 9 (21:28):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (21:29):
And great question, thank you. It's not necessarily what I
anticipated or expected Trump to do. It's what he has
done that has brought my questions to focus on data centers,
to focus on money from the Middle East. The recent
discussion about no longer allowing medical debts to be exempted
on credit reports. And again, some of the decisions I
(21:50):
do believe that Trump has made specifically focus on the
way his administration has guided him. The one Big Beautiful Bill,
a lot of great things passed. I thought it could
have been better, but I know he worked hard and
he got a lot of good things done. But unfortunately,
when I hear him say things like forgiving Google and
Apple and how the EU should no longer you know,
(22:10):
give them fines and penalties, is ridiculous when these guys
are also up on charges into in America for committee.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
This is thank you for the call, and I was
going to ask our I was going to ask our
steam caller. I feel like you might too. Are you
maybe being a little unrealistic about what's possible for the
president to do?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Also how perfect he's supposed to be. My thought would be,
maybe you're involved in tech. These are very specific, very specific.
It feels like issues that matter to you specifically, but
aren't necessarily at the top of the list for most voters.
Speaker 9 (22:46):
Yes, In other ways, as I as I make under
fifty thousand, sitting here on the ground and being disabled,
I also feel this income pinch, and I feel the
hardships of what the economy is doing. I worked full time, don't.
I don't take any disability payments, But you know, I
do see how it affects other people and other families.
I do see how stores and others have taken advantage of.
It doesn't mean it's all Trump right, it does not,
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But it does mean that his administration has caused some
issues down here. So when we focused on tariffs without
focusing on domestic production that would have boosted the economy
using those terrifts as an advantage versus a weapon, I
just think was poorly timed. It's a good plan, we
needed it, but I think there were things to fix
the Biden economics that screwed us over really bad as
(23:30):
a priority.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Okay, thank you for the call. Basically, it sounds like
he mostly doesn't agree with the things that Trump has
done we said, And I think this is important to
remember that this was an election, and I think Trump
ran it as an election that was focused on the economy,
border crime. You hear nothing about the border. I don't
know that anybody has ever been more successful in directly
(23:53):
addressing what they said they would address on something like
the border than we've ever seen in any of our lives.
Just not an issue right for a huge majority of you.
The border was maybe your number one issue. Certainly it
was in the top three. So border is solved. He
solved it in ten months. He solved it in six months.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Crime.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
We are right now heading towards potentially a fifty or
sixty year low in murders in the country. In cities
that Trump has actually aggressively addressed, Washington, d C. My
home state city of Memphis, the number of murders is plummeting. Buck,
(24:34):
this is not getting attention in Memphis. I had somebody
reach out to me. We're going to get on a
politician from Memphis to talk about it. He said, there's
a seventy percent decline in violent crime right now in Memphis. Again,
a lot of people don't pay attention to Memphis.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
It's a you know, one of the top forty or
fifty biggest cities. There's a lot of other cities that
are bigger that get more attention. That's an unbelievable success
story that could be extrapolated elsewhere. Economy, stock market is
at record highs, gas prices are down for the last
four years compared to where they were. The problem here
(25:10):
I see on economy and people say, oh, you don't
see it. I do see it. Prices went up so
fast that people are angry. Trump can't make prices go
back to where they were in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty.
It's never going to happen for the rest of our lives.
Biden screwed up so bad that the best thing Trump
can do is try to rehabilitate the economy that Biden destroyed.
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That's the reality, and so I get that people are frustrated.
I think the people who are most frustrated with Trump
are upset because grocery bills are still high, and rent
is still high, and everything costs more than you think
it should.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
The problem is nothing ever goes back in price, so
you don't get to wave a magic wand and be like, hey,
everything cost what it did in twenty nineteen. That's the
pernicious awfulness of inflation and why it is so disastrous
to any country.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
The hope here is that the increases in productivity that
will come from AI and I don't think this is
pie in the sky. I've seen you know, when you
see enough drone factories and things, and when I was
in Taiwan and when I was at TSMC and talking
to them about what is already possible technologically, our lives
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are going to be very different in over the next
ten years from what we've been used to in terms
of a lot of things that we're not going to
have to do a lot of things that will be
very easy to do or be done for us. And
that means that there can be attendant quality of life
and productivity increases and general wealth. Right they're like wealth
(26:47):
that all of us, we are all richer than the
kings of Europe from the time of Henry the Eighth,
all of us, all of you listening right now, it
is possible for humanity to actually just be wealthier. I
do think that AI is going to be a big
part of that. But the other issue we have is
that we have a political system where half the country
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still thinks that the other half the country is going
to come up with ways to pay all of the
bills that they don't want to pay, and that's not
going to change. And that's also unfortunately not sustainable. If
they're going to just run the printing presses like crazy.
And I know people say, well Trump spent a lot
of money during COVID. He did, but the Democrats absolutely
demanded that, and no one seems willing to do anything
(27:32):
about it now to bring the curve down in the
other direction. So this is where this is where we
are we talk about this. It's very frustrating whenever the
debt becomes an issue and we want to have that conversation,
it goes beyond just oh yeah, that's a political issue.
People say, well I paid into this, and they take
it very personally. You know, I paid for Medicare. Whatever
(27:53):
it may be, all right, so let me just keep
doing what we're doing. This is where this is where
it ends up. And I think lirtually, if you want
to talk about prices, when you have more dollars chasing
fewer goods, this is like econ one oh one week
one more dollars out in the system chasing fewer goods
and services, you have inflation. And that's what happened and
(28:18):
now we're dealing with it. But you know, deflation would
be a painful process as well. So if it comes
too quickly, you know, I don't know, what do you
think I am. I basically as the broad strokes correct.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Here.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Your broad strokes are completely correct, and I get it.
I think that the degree of frustration is through the
roof over cost of goods and economy, border crime, border
solved crime trending towards record lows thanks to police being supported.
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I don't think it's getting enough attention. And Trump has
attacked in a way that I don't know that we've
ever seen before the violent crime in this country, and
he's winning on that level. You just have to trust them.
I really do believe the economy is going to be
firing on all cylinders. I think it's going pretty well
in the stock market right now. Gas prices are down again.
I think it's going to be firing on all cylinders
by the spring and summer. Problem is, prices are not
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coming back down. And I think it's to the extent
that anyone has promised you in any way that prices
are going to come back down to twenty nineteen or
twenty twenty levels the pre Biden era prices is just
not physically it's not going to happen.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
I think of Mom Donnie, Mo'm Donnie's big winning line
for a lot of the young people in New York
voted for them. Is I'm going to freeze the rent
that makes the problem of affordability worse. Everybody that makes
it worse. It may not make it worse that day,
but it will make it worse in the long run. Yeah,
for sure. That's awesome. All right.
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Welcome back in. We've got a actual guest with us,
doctor Mark Siegel. You all know him from Fox News
where he's the senior medical analyst. He's the author of
The Miracles among Us how God's Grace plays a role
in healing. Doctor Siegel, congrats on the book, Thanks for
calling in.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Great to be with you today. You know I'm a
friends of your wife.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Right Oh yeah, but carries a big fan, So when
you have a book coming out, it's not even a question.
She's like, she just told me doctor Siegel's come on
and talk about his book. I said, yes, ma'am, right away,
tell us about the book.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Same is me. So look, the book starts with the
idea that there's the Catholic Church as miracles that are
very rigid. But I actually look into that, and I
do a chapter on Lords and I in France and
I actually interviewed the doctor there at Di Franciscus, who
actually is a Harvard epidemiologist who trained as a pediatrician,
(31:53):
and he's very religious. That's the key to this book,
that you can combine faith and science. They're not different,
and they're not separate. It's not like, oh no, I'm
doing surgery now, I can't believe in God. That's just crazy.
In fact, we have to be looking at our patients
as precious, as spiritual, as individuals. That's why I'm against
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physicianists assisted suicide. This book is about people who defy
the odds. And in Lords, there's one case of Bernadette,
like the Bernadette that inspired Lords years ago, where she
was completely unable to walk because of her Quota aquina
syndrome and she couldn't control her bowels or bladder in
a horrible foot pain. She was in a wheelchair. She
(32:36):
went and visited there. Three days later she felt heat
through her body and suddenly it was fine and all
through prayer and Defranciscus looked at this, but here's the point.
He got thirty three other doctors involved. He got an
expert and involved, He got radiologists involved, He even got
psychiatrists involved. All said, this is really a spontaneous intervention
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of God. Now that's not the only thing the book
is about, because those are hard miracles, those are church miracles.
There's also miracles that I am more interested in, which
is an accumulation of coincidences. I call it a miracle lane.
You're in the miracle lane and you can't even pick
out which is the specific miracle. The publisher of the
(33:19):
book from HarperCollins and ilesa sharky. We actually have a
back and forth what's the main miracle of that chapter?
And Clay will be interested to know that De mar
Hamlin story has a lot more miracles to it than
you might think.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Tell me about that, because for a lot of people
out there, that is one of the most chilling things
to see happen on a football field. For those of
you who have forgotten, football player makes a hit playing
for the Buffalo Bills and nearly dies on the field.
They have to bring out the shock machine to try
to bring him back to life. They put him in
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an ambulance, rush him out of there. Game basically ends
right then, what is the backstory now on DeMar Hamlin
and how exactly that went down.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
The backstory is the first miracle. It's that Leslie Bisson,
who is the team physician for the Buffalo Bills and
the Buffalo Sabers and the head of orthopedics at Buffalo
at the medical school. In two thousand and seven, he
had a skater almost die. It was a former Buffalo
Sabers skater and he bled from a carotid artery. He
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barely saved them with all of these transfusions, and he said,
you know what, from here on, all of my teams
are going to rehearse for tragic events on the field,
and they're going to be rehearsed and we're going to
be ready. And when he went to the Buffalo Bills,
they said, Leslie, you're crazy. We haven't had a carneiac
arrest on the field since nineteen fifty five. He says,
(34:48):
I'm rehearsing, and he had a premonition that one day
this would be needed. But everyone thought he was crazy.
But he had a drill and he had a defibrillator
right there, and he trained the the trainer of the
of the Bills and all of them were ready for
an event where somebody dropped on the field like Damar did.
That's why they rushed over there. And we have an
(35:09):
expression in medicine, time his brain, and they did. They
started CPR so fast, and that defibrillator so fast, and
they got their shoulder pads off so fast, only because
they had rehearsed it. Now, the next part of the
miracle is that when Damarro was recovering. People don't know this,
but Damar and I interviewed everybody for this, and the
doctors and the trainers and every DeMar was recovering, it
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took him a while to feel back in the game,
let's say, so to speak. And you know, it wasn't
just I woke he woke up. What was the final score?
It was more like it took a few days for
him to come back to himself. And then it was
a combination of prayer, very religious tomorrow and yoga and meditation.
All of these things helped him. And then he felt
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and this is another key to the book, that having
received a miracle, he needed to give out miracles, and
so he went around the community and he has been
the biggest proponent of defibrillators AEDs automatic defibrillators in any
facility imaginable. He's out there teaching CPR with that, with
the sports doock with Leslie Bisson, and he goes all
(36:17):
over the country. He's a great human being. God's giving
back to.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Him speing a doctor Mark Siegel of Fox News. He's
got a book out, the Miracles among Us how God's
grace plays a role in healing. Doctor Siegel. Interesting that
there's research, real research that has been done and is
still being done on prayer and helping people to heal.
I'm wondering if you could speak to that well.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
First of all, believe it or not. The part of
the brain, the right frontal part of the brain. I
spoke to the researcher on this exact issue. That part
of the brain where you connect the dots and you
kind of have to use your imagination and creativity. That
creates such a positive feeling believing in miracles that it
takes the place of negative feelings like political divisiveness and
(37:03):
the same part of the brain and it wants you
to join a community and it gives you a sense
of hope and reassurance to think that there's a greater
force than you out there that makes these decisions. God
gives us the miracles he wants us to have, not
necessarily the ones we're asking for, and knowing that that
we should fear God but not each other is greatly uplifting.
(37:25):
It definitely decreats his depression and it improves health outcomes,
which has been shown again and again. And I also
talk about that in the book where Bait way back
in the Old Testament, Hannah's praying for a son, and
God only answers that prayer because he looks down the
road and he knows that son will be Samuel, who
becomes a great prophet, so that we have to put
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our lives and our futures in God hands. Another great
story from the book related to that is Robert Redfield's
son who hits his head. Robert Redfield, former CDC director,
hits his head, goes into a deep coma herniates, is
not expected to recover at all, but he ends up
being brought to the top trauma center in the country,
(38:07):
in the world in Maryland. And Tom Scalia is not
a big believer. He runs the place, but he says,
you know, we do miracles here every day. I said,
what are the chances of Danny Redfield having a full recovery,
he says, probably zero. Danny Redfield fully recovers and ends
up back on the golf course, beating his old scores.
Because Robert Redfield and his wife are praying to God
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every single day. You know, he knew John Paul the
second he's involved in a Catholic church. He has a
group of Franciscan sisters praying for him in upstate New York.
One day, and this is a great story. One day,
he says to Danny, who is starting to recover, something's
wrong with your eye. Danny, what's wrong with your eye?
Are you seeing double? Danny says no, I can't see
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out of my right eye at all. So Redfield goes
back to God and he says, you promised me a
full recovery. And I said to Redfield, you criticized the Lord,
and he said, why not? It worked? Two weeks later,
Danny singing, well out of both eyes.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
That's an amazing, amazing tell us how to get the book,
because going around I'm going around trying to sell a
book right now, I know how hard this is for
people out there who like these stories and would like
to maybe get some inspiration in their life?
Speaker 4 (39:21):
How can they find it?
Speaker 2 (39:22):
And that's the key. By the way, every one of
us has a miracle. We can tell my father's one
hundred and two years old, my mother's one hundred. They've
kept together through all of the medical turns in the road.
You need this.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
How many years have they been hold on? How many
years have they been married?
Speaker 2 (39:36):
They've been married seventy three years. They and they're married
through love of each other. And the fact that doctors
believe that you can operate and fix a hip on
a ninety eight year old or put a ninety nine
year old on a ventilator. Doctors that believe in what
they're doing and believe in God are more likely not
to give up on you. And that's really important. And
every story will inspire you in this book that you
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might have the same thing happen to you. And you
can get this book through Amazon, through Fox News Books,
through Barnes and Noble, and it will be published on
November eighteenth, but right now it's available in pre orders.
Get my book, get your book as well.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Yeah, everybody buy books. Let's read more great books for
the holidays. Doctor Stiegel, appreciate you sir, come back anytime.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Great to be on with you, guys. Thank you.
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Speaker 4 (42:10):
All right, welcome back in, give the little ass buck anything.
You might be getting a call from play at a minute,
but you can call and ask me whatever you want.
How about that it's Friday and we're having a good
time here. You, like I said, Clay might be ringing
us from the airport to let us know what kind
of chaos, what kind of a mess it has all
(42:32):
turned into?
Speaker 7 (42:32):
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Speaker 4 (42:33):
It is, It is tough, It is not going well
here with the shutdown situation. Jd Vance, This is twenty five.
Jd Vance is saying, now the pain start. It's one
thing to have a shutdown for a few days a week,
ten days. Now there's real consequences to this stuff. Play
twenty five.
Speaker 10 (42:53):
The American people are unfortunately about to start suffering some
very real consequences because of the shutdown. In the past,
when you had a government shutdown, you would have go
under the Obama administration, they would lean into all of
the problems it was going to cousse for the American people.
At the beginning of the shutdown, the President has told
us to keep as much going as humanly possible. But
(43:13):
after thirty days of this thing, forty days of this thing,
you're going to start seeing very real travel delays. That's
because the Democrat government shut down. You're going to start
seeing snap benefits run out. That's because the Democrat government shutdown.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
They should stop the charade and.
Speaker 10 (43:27):
Open up the government. That's what we want them to do.
We've been asking them to do it for forty days.
It's time.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
Why not just open the government up and then say, hey, guys,
we also have to fix the Obamacare exchanges by funneling
billions of dollars of subsidies to them afterwards. Do they
really think that Republicans are going to allow people to
have forty thousand dollars a year in expense for some
of these Obamacare approved plans, which is what some of
(43:54):
these plans are going to cost for a family of four,
Just completely unaffordable stuff and stuff that will will destroy
people's finances. What you'll have is a lot of people
will refuse to get insurance. And remember, we don't have
those Obamacare finds anymore, right, they got rid of that,
So you'll just have a lot of people who go
on insured. Isn't that the great irony of this Obamacare
(44:15):
will have made health insurance so expensive that without billions
of dollars of subsidies showered on it to just artificially
make people think the price has been decreased, Obamacare, the
quote Affordable Care Act, will have made healthcare so unaffordable
(44:37):
that people will choose not to have it. That's going
to become the legacy of the ACA. I think at
some level Democrats recognize this is going to be a
problem for them. This is going to be a problem
for their party. Because this is still the single most transformational,
(44:58):
unfortunately in a very bad way, p of legislation that
the Democrat Party has managed to get through. I'm probably
in twenty something years. I don't know, you have to
go back quite a while. The other big things that
Democrats have gotten that are wins are all just judicial fiat.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
It's the Supreme Court before the Trump appointees came on board,
handing them and in some cases even with the Trump
appointees handing Democrats the policy victories they could have never
gotten at the ballot box. And so there we have it. Oh,
speaking of judges, you also have this judge now who
has ruled this is what the administration must do on
(45:35):
on snap food stamps. Notice that why would they change?
This isn't this is meaningful? Why is it this supplemental
nutritional assistance program? Why not just call it food stamps?
What's wrong with that? We even call it something like
(45:56):
food aid? You know, why do we have to call
it supple We come up with this science sounding the
supplemental nutritional assistance. It's buying free food for people. It
is food welfare. Now, there are reasons when people can
be down on their luck things happen, I get it.
I do not think that we should have no safety net. Well,
(46:19):
if anything, we should have a safety net where we
take care of each other or decency and charity as
Americans means that nobody would ever go hungry because we
don't allow them to. But I'm not opposed to a
safety net. And I understand that things can be difficult
than people have challenges, but I also think we should
call things what they are. I also think that when
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you're giving food welfare, we should know as a people,
that's what it is. You hear, that's your welfare. A
lot less it's these all these bureaucracies also that administer
this stuff don't want people to think of what they're
doing as welfare because then they realize that this is
their money that's just being handed to people. And also
the bureaucracies are very wasteful and very bloated, so they remember,
(47:03):
the bureaucracies take a cut because this government money going
through government hands to get to the people who are
getting it for free. So yeah, we should call it
food stamps. The same way, they don't want you to
think of illegal aliens. Somebody who is not American, not
supposed to be in the country undocumented. What is undocumented
even mean? Is it really a meaningless term? The problem
(47:26):
is that they lack a document. No, the problem is
that they're illegally in the United States and they're in
violation of our laws. So these things do matter. The
way we talk about this does make a difference. But
on the snap ruling, because this is now that's the
official government term for it, maybe Trump should change that
it call it food welfare. What's wrong with that? All
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the different welfare forms we have, I might add, you know,
people were for of Section eight housing, for example, what
does that mean? That could be anything? Actually eight housing
we don't call the medicaid. We don't call anything really.
I mean, there's probably some exceptions, but we don't call
things welfare anymore because it's always supposed to be hidden
(48:12):
from the American people in the taxpayer. The size and
scope of the free stuff that we are giving to
people in a country where half the country pays no
income tax whatsoever. That's that's not a good and sustainable program,
is it. Here's vance on the judge's ruling about how
(48:36):
this is just a judge saying this is what the
federal government must do now the government shut down on
food stamps Play twenty six.
Speaker 10 (48:43):
It's an absurd ruling because you have a federal judge
effectively telling us what we have to do in the
midst of a Democrat government shutdown, which what we'd like
to do is for the Democrats to open up the government,
of course, and then we can fund snap and we
can also do a lot of other good things for
the American people. But in the midst of a shutdown,
we can't have a fed court telling the president how
he has the triage of the situation. We're trying to
(49:04):
keep as much turned on. We're trying to keep as
much going as possible. The President and the entire administration
are working on that. But we're not gonna do it
under the orders of a federal judge. We're going to
do it according to what we think we have to
do to comply with the law, of course, but also
to actually make the government work for people in the
midst of the Democrat government shut down.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
I mean, what if the judge just said the Democrats,
I've got a better idea. Hey, judge, whatever you know,
Obama or Biden or maybe maybe probably not Clinton. That's
going back too far. But Obama Biden, judge, this is uh.
Or are the Democrats to reopen the government? How why
don't we try that one? If we're just gonna become
(49:47):
king for a day as a federal judge, let's just
have the government reopened by the fiat of a judge.
Just trample off, trample on the executive I mean, the
legislative branches, prerogative. Just forget about all that. You're the judge,
you're the emperor in the black robes, and just do
your thing. There's way too much of this, way too
(50:10):
much of this stuff going on to try to stop
this administration, to order around this administration, to dictate to
the Trump team from these judges. And notice that Trump
just the way he handles it is to go to court,
go through the process, go through the process. That's not
how kings do things. For the no Kings protest, honestly,
(50:30):
I don't know how people, I don't know how you
can take yourself seriously if you go to a no
King's protest, Oh no kings. It is so pathetic. But
people would rather continue to be sanctimonious and wrong than
be self effacing and right. So common Unfortunately it's so common.
(50:54):
I hate being wrong. Clay and I share this. We
both if we get any fact wrong, anything we say.
When I say wrong, inaccurate right, predictions, you know, you
win some, you lose some. We like to have fun
with predictions. But no one can predict the future. So
that's that is what it is. That's more of a
parlor game than anything else. But accuracy really counts. Accuracy
really matters. It bothers me to be inaccurate, but also analysis.
(51:19):
If I'm really wrong on a point of analysis, I
try to go back, admit that first off, and then
try to understand why. The great part of being a
Democrat is never admitting you're wrong, never admitting that your
policies are dumb, that your ideas are idiotic, that it's destructive,
that you make everything worse for everyone, including yourself, with
most of the things that you want to have happen.
(51:41):
You know, the walk back from climate change is the
biggest existential threat in the world, which is happening a
little bit quietly. But with Bill Gates and then others too,
Why are they making more movies about how I'm in Florida,
Go try to get a deal on Florida, Florida beachfront
real estate right now, Okay, especially given what just happened
(52:02):
in New York, go try to get a deal. Say somebody,
you know what, I'm gonna help you out. You're right
here on the beach, very close to those rising oceans.
I'm gonna give you twenty percent of what you think
this place is worth. I'll take it off your hands.
See what happens. Let me know how that goes for you.
Of course, it was all nonsense. It was all lies.
They were all wrong. All that climate change stuff is absurd,
(52:23):
and yet they never have to stop and think, you
know what, m maybe there's a problem there, say anything
with the government shutdown, I might add, as soon as
we end this government shutdown, or rather it ends, Democrats
are going to pretend like this wasn't a thing that
they did, and the suffering that people had because of
it was not their fault. They're just going to lie
about all of it and lies. Unfortunately, as they're very destructive,
(52:47):
they're also very powerful. Lies are a very effective tool
of power because if you can always lie to people
about what you do, you can never be held responsible
for what you do, and therefore you can convince the
masses of whatever you need to stay in power just
by lying to them. That's why when Gavin Newsom said
he hates politicians who lie, everyone across the country with
(53:08):
an IQ above fifty was like laughing out loud. But
Gavin Duff protests too much on that one. We're gonna
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Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Oh man, it's
a Friday Rejoice. But I'm looking up at all the news.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
The airlines are just in an uproar. It is the
lead story right now on Fox. I got an email.
I was just joking with people off the air I
got an email from the airline I'm supposed to fly
in a little bit, and they were just like, hey,
basically in the email, we're not really sure the plane's
gonna go take off. You might want to consider other
(00:33):
airlines and just have backup plans in place. It's I
don't know that I've ever gotten emails like this. I mean,
it's one thing to have delays, it's another thing for
your airline to be like, hey, yeah, so we may
or may not be able to take off today. You
might want to have multiple airline flights a different airlines booked.
(00:55):
Oh boy, So I imagine that a lot of you
out there are dealing with this with and family as well.
So that chaos is underway. Let's give me a couple
of positives here, Buck. I know that w R listeners
in New York City have been unhappy with me because
I told you all that we were going to see
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an absolute destruction of Curtis Liwa, and that occurred, and
that Mom Donnie was going to win unless he was
going head to head with only one person, even if
it was the awful Andrew Cuomo. But those of you
who have been listening for a while will remember that
I said there was a shining better day to come
(01:37):
for New Yorkers even if Mom Donnie won. And I
said because I really do think it will open the
door to winning a more significant office, which is the
governorship and the governorship of New York with the awful
Kathy Hokel in office, who basically decapitated Andrew Cuomo over
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this sexual harassment scandal that wasn't actually in the grand
scheme of things that bad. I mean, what Cuomo did
during COVID was infinitely worse than any of the allegations
against him relating to sexual harassment. So now we have
the awful Kathy Hochel as governor, maybe the worst governor
in America, which is obviously JB. Pritzker, Gretchen Whitmer, Gavin Newsom.
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There's a lot of people I think we could toss
out there and say are in that mix. But this
morning on Fox and Friends. I don't think it's coincidental
on her timing. Alis Stephonic, former New York Congressman. She
would have been the ambassador to the UN, but she
decided to go back to Congress to help because the
majority was not very substantial there. She has announced that
(02:43):
she is running for governor to make New York affordable
and safe. She did that this morning, Buck, this was
a positive Let's listen, cut one.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I'm running for governor to make New York affordable and safe.
We have seen decades of single party rule led by Democrats,
and Kathy Hokl is the worst governor in a mayora.
New York is the most unaffordable state in the nation,
with the highest taxes, the highest energy bills, the highest
utility bills. We also have a crime crisis because Kathy
Hochel has brought us failed bail reform and has embraced
(03:12):
the defrom the police, Democrats, and after this week Ainsley,
when we saw a raging anti semi prohamas communist who
wants to raise taxes and frankly he barely won the
majority of New York City voters. Kathy Hokl endorsed him
and bent the Nie. She has failed New Yorkers.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I think that's right.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
And so if you are a frustrated New York voter
right now, if you are a New York City area resident,
and you are thinking to yourself, oh my goodness, this
is awful. Next year the state gets the opportunity to
punch back and react to what happened in New York City.
And I do think that Alice Stephonic would be an
incredible choice for New York. She is infinitely better than
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Kathy Hochel. She's gonna be fighting an uphill battle. But
oftentimes election cycle swing from one direction to another, and
electing a communist in New York City, maybe you want
to elect then a decently reasonable, rational person to be governor.
So I wanted to start with that buck because I
(04:17):
wanted to start with at least some positivity after a
tough week.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
The positivity is I do think this helps a least
stefanic a great deal that Mom Donnie won. It would
be so nice for the Empire state to return to
a place of sanity. You're never going to get Texas
or Florida policies in New York.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Although wouldn't that be nice? But you will be able to,
I think, have a very close contest in the next
governor's race, because one HOCl is terrible and two Stefanic
is a pretty talented and solid choice that's right to
run on the Republican side, So that that is good.
And also to your point about how this has been
a tough week. We lost races we were supposed to lose.
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There was no big shock or surprise at all, and
that's just the way it's going to go sometimes. So
we dust ourselves off, we move forward. Remember Trump is
still in charge, He's still doing great things, and one
of them is just pointing out this has cut three
Clay that Nancy Pelosi's retirement is perhaps the greatest act
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of patriotism she has ever she has ever made. Play three.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
I think she's an evil woman. I'm glad she's retiring.
I think she did the country a great service by retire.
I think she was a tremendous liability for the country.
I thought she was an evil woman who did a
poor job to cross the country a lot in damages
and in reputation. I thought she was terrible, Thank you
(05:47):
very much.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I like that he's just letting him rip. Look, she's retiring,
he's not. He's not at a at a at a
situation here where he has to say nice things, and
he's not going to say nice things because those would
be untrue. Nancy Pelosi has been deeply destructive to the country,
and I think it'll be a better place without her
wielding the iron fist of Pelosi over the Democrats in
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the House. So let's see that Democrats really are without
Pelosi running cover and keeping them from being completely insane
in public before elections. I do think.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
It has to really gall Nancy Pelosi that she had
to step down as Trump is at his most descendant power.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
That's kind of a you know, chef's kiss.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
If I were Trump advisor there, I would say, you
know what, I love that Nancy Pelosi recognized that it's
time for her to step down, and I couldn't think
it's better for the country that she's leaving the fight
right as she recognizes that I've won all the battles.
I wish Nancy well in retirement, and the biggest loss
(06:57):
we're going to have with Nancy is I've been trying
to figure out how to be as good of an
investor as her. I don't know what we're all gonna
do without having the Nancy Pelosi stock tracker out there
to make us all rich. She's the Warren Buffett of
Congress and really kind of gigger. But I think Trump
genuinely detests her, So that came across in certainly the
(07:20):
answer that he gave in that press conference yesterday. They're
also continuing to battle, by the way, on the government shutdown,
and we'll see. But my thought is that when people
get frustrated at airports, then it's Democrats, it's Republicans, it's independents.
(07:40):
A lot of people will put up with political shenanigans
until it starts directly impacting their day to day existence.
And for those of us who travel, and those of
us who are trying to pick people up at airports,
and those of us who were just trying to get
around the country, this thing. Can you imagine, buck if
this they extended for another few weeks and we moved
(08:02):
into the Thanksgiving travel season, that would be absolutely bonkers.
It's the most difficult time of year to be traveling anyway,
and then you're gonna layer it on top of people
not getting paid and all of the chaos. And really
the Democrat objectives here have always been very difficult to
(08:23):
explain in a succinct fashion. And they're the ones shutting
down the government. And I feel like they got their
No Kings protests, they got their election wins in New
Jersey and Virginia. There's zero doubt that Virginia was aided
because there's so many federal employees by the fact that
the government shut down happened. Now, let's go ahead and
(08:43):
just open the government back up. And in fact, he's
the same guy. This is exactly what John Fetterman said, Buck,
play cut seven World.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Kitchens feeding government workers. We're in in my neighborhood in
Avy Yard. I mean, it's really impacting these folks. It's
like we've all been paid, but all these workers haven't
been paid. The Capitol police that are protecting here haven't
been paid. Our military. Why that's not controversial. Pay our military,
pay all these folks, and I'll make sure everyone's fed. Now,
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why would we put ourselves in that situation at this point?
You know, we've had the election. Now we can all
reopen and I'll find a way forward.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Now, this is kind of crazy, Buck, When you really
break it all down, that maybe the thing that we
were most wrong on the show in four years, aside
from the red Wave twenty twenty two, I never would
have ever believed having watched the twenty twenty two Senate campaigns,
I never would have believed that John Fetterman would end
(09:44):
up one of the most irrational, reasonable, efficient, and effective
senators when it comes to just analyzing basic things like this.
Would you have ever bought in, like if we went
back in time to when he was engaged in the debate,
when he was running against doctor I never would have
ever believed that this could be a situation where Fetterman
(10:06):
were lauding and saying, Hey, this guy is actually one
of the best troop tellers on Capitol Hill. But I
mean everything he just said was eminently reasonable, not particularly partisan,
and rational. And I can't believe I'm saying this, but
we need five or six more John Fetterman's in order
to get the country back up and running and get
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the government open.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
What are the Democrats really achieving with all them? Well
that's the question. That's the thing that we're going to
have to look back on when this eventually ends. What
have they gotten I do not think Republicans can give
them what they want, because then you've said a president,
I might add the minority party can say I just
want billions of dollars that have nothing to do with
the actual funding of the government, or else I'm gonna
(10:50):
take my ball and go home, or else I'm I'm
going to stop things from happening in DC. You can't
negotiate with terrorists. Friends, This is congressional terrorism, so to speak.
This is not playing by the pre established rules. So
eventually you're gonna have to just see who has got
(11:10):
the grit, who stays together as a caucus, and I'm
hopeful Republicans stay with it. I do think the one
thing Trump keeps saying, hey, we need the filibuster. You know,
they've moderated the filibuster on an ending the filibuster. They've
moderated the filibuster on a great number of different aspects.
(11:30):
To me, there is a decent argument to be made,
and I think our friend Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin
has made this argument publicly for some time, and in fact,
if he's listening, he's welcome to call in and make
it better than I'm about to make it. But can
we just do away with the ability to shut down
the government and require there be sixty votes to reopen it.
(11:54):
That doesn't seem like the filibuster for many things makes sense.
Should we have a filibuster when it to whether you
can add Supreme Court justices or add senators from New Jersey,
senators from You can't have a minority of the Senate
say sorry, no government business till I get what I want.
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
That would seem like a solution. And look, Republicans may
be frustrated by that somewhere down the line, but the
majority party should be able to keep the government open.
That seems very basic to me, and so you know,
I would love to hear Senator Johnson explain exactly that perspective.
(12:32):
But it seems like a reasonable middle ground that doesn't
require eliminating the entirety of the filibuster, and instead would
just allow government to be open so that we can
all be able to take airplane flights safely, and so
that the soldiers can get paid, and so we make
sure that a lot of people out there who are
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The second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Now.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Everybody appreciate you being with us. We're having a great
Friday already. UH definitely want to take a lot of
your talk facts, your VIP emails, your live calls of course.
Eight to eight two eight hundred two eight two eight
A two crossed me up? I guys, what I just
forgot my own call number. It's been like two a
(15:14):
two two eight two buck. I said it right, right.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I think you just you you questioned yourself as you
went through it. Every now and then that happens to
me too. One thing that has happened in the era
of smartphones. I it's actually a point of anxiety for me.
I do not know any phone numbers correct. And back
in the day when I when we had old school
answering machines, Remember you sit there and you were like
(15:39):
in college or whatever, or maybe you were a young
guy in your twenties. You had your voicemail and you're like, hey,
I'm not like trying to sound cool, I'm just casual
and want you to leave your message at the beep.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
You know, remember all that stuff. Don't lie to me.
A lot of you did over and over. You did
multiple takes over and over again, of your answering machine voicemail.
Uh so that was very very much a throwback. But yes,
so Clay, let's dive in, shall we. Let's dive into
(16:13):
what Trump is saying about the filibuster, about affordability, about
all of that good stuff. Oh and I was gonna say,
he's back in the day. He's to remember all the
phone numbers too.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I still remember friends from high school's phone number. I
remember my high school phone number to this day. Yes,
but I can't remember any other numbers either, because everything's
in the phone. Uh and you you know, pull up
somebody's name and have no idea. By the way, loaded lines.
A lot of good feedback to coming in. A lot
of people reacting to our boy who called in from
(16:46):
Ohio and gave Trump and f on the first ten months.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's uh, that's that's gonna get the
that's gonna get the folks riled up. Speaking of Trump,
here is he Look he's saying it. He wants the
filibuster ended right now, at least to open the government
that I agree with. Look, you're going to say this
is a bit of a change, Yeah, but this is
a change that we can live with. If. I don't
(17:10):
think Republicans should be able to in minority demand sixty
votes to open the government. Yeah, that's crazy. I think
Democrats should be able to do this in minority either.
This is sabotage of the system that the system did
not predetermine should exist. Here's Trump play four.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Well, I think it's time for them to end a
filibuster and just put everybody back to work. Vote in
voter ID, vote in, no mail in voting except for military,
far away military and people that are very sick. No,
I'd like to see one day voting. I'd like to see,
not sixty five days of voting from all over the place. Though,
(17:48):
I'd like to clean up the elections the border. We've
done a great job. We have a great strong vorder.
Now I'd like to see new rules on immigration that
could be fair and good, you know, close to get
the rules that they're never going to get. There's so
many things we could put in, including tax cuts that
we could get, and we could do it all ourselves. Yeah,
but you to do that, you have to end the.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Philibus clay if Democrats really aren't aren't gonna blink your
The election's over and there doesn't seem to be much
movement from them to reopen the government, and people you
are one of them, are dealing with the realities of
what this means. Now you're supposed to fly today, Yes,
I don't know. I don't know what's gonna happen here,
(18:30):
my friend, you might have to try to, you know,
hit your ride on air force one or something.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
That would be nice, because I bet you could definitely
take off. But I'm I got the email, as I said,
early early today from my travel situation, and they're just
like if it was like somebody telling you, hey, we
may be able to hang out, we might not be
able to hang out. It's really kind of on you.
You might want to make plans to somebody else. It's
(18:57):
like trying to go on a date with somebody who
doesn't really want to go on a date with you,
which you know by the way I've been through that.
I will say this audience is amazing. People are so
kind out there. We got an email from a Southwest pilot.
I heard Clay may have trouble getting out of New York.
I have a standby ticket he can use. This is
a Southwest pilot, and he reached out. I've got a
(19:19):
flight on Southwest. So I am going to right now
be going an hour early on the show so that
I can get out. Maybe I will call and report
from the airport to be able to get back home
and not get left in New York City. It's like
escape from New York City here time. I'm gonna get
back to Nashville. But I've been on a ton of
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Southwest Airlines flights in my life because they go in
and out of Nashville. It's my favorite airline. People pick
on me about it sometimes, but I'm on Southwest all
the time. So many of their flight attendants and now
pilots I have met that are fans of this show,
that are fans of OutKick.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I love that airline. I'm just to be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I love the people that work on Southwest Airlines as
a group, just a fantastic collection of people. And the
fact that one of our listeners out there is a
Southwest pilot and he just reached out and said, hey,
I can help get you on standby on a flight.
I mean, you guys are fantastic. Now, we got a
lot of people who want to weigh in on a
variety of different topics. It's Friday. Let's hit some of
(20:22):
these loaded phone lines. Let's see Dan Bend, Oregon.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Dan, you're a.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Three time Trump voter. We had Jacob call in and
gave him an F. Do you also give him an F?
Speaker 8 (20:35):
No, sir, good morning. I would give him a C
minus though, just because first off, we know Trump's not
a one man show, right. He has an administration of
people he relies upon. So I think from my perspective,
some of the decisions he's making.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Okay, so let me let me pause. You here for
sex C minus. Okay, I don't agree with that rating,
but that is you know, that's not an f right.
I don't think anybody who voted three times for Trump
would give him an F. Honestly, in the first ten months,
why would you give him a C minus? Buck, I'm
gonna be honest with you, I would give him an A.
He's done almost everything that I thought he would do.
He's been more effective and more efficient.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I mean, I don't want to quibble. I might just
say a minus because you can always do a little better.
But I'm right there with you.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
So I'm curious, what, Dan, what has Trump not done
that you anticipated he would do in the first ten
months such that you give him a C minus?
Speaker 9 (21:28):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (21:29):
And great question, thank you. It's not necessarily what I
anticipated or expected Trump to do. It's what he has
done that has brought my questions to focus on data centers,
to focus on money from the Middle East. The recent
discussion about no longer allowing medical debts to be exempted
on credit reports. And again, some of the decisions I
(21:50):
do believe that Trump has made specifically focus on the
way his administration has guided him. The one Big Beautiful Bill,
a lot of great things passed. I thought it could
have been better, but I know he worked hard and
he got a lot of good things done. But unfortunately,
when I hear him say things like forgiving Google and
Apple and how the EU should no longer you know,
(22:10):
give them fines and penalties, is ridiculous when these guys
are also up on charges into in America for committee.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
This is thank you for the call, and I was
going to ask our I was going to ask our
steam caller. I feel like you might too. Are you
maybe being a little unrealistic about what's possible for the
president to do?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Also how perfect he's supposed to be. My thought would be,
maybe you're involved in tech. These are very specific, very specific.
It feels like issues that matter to you specifically, but
aren't necessarily at the top of the list for most voters.
Speaker 9 (22:46):
Yes, In other ways, as I as I make under
fifty thousand, sitting here on the ground and being disabled,
I also feel this income pinch, and I feel the
hardships of what the economy is doing. I worked full time, don't.
I don't take any disability payments, But you know, I
do see how it affects other people and other families.
I do see how stores and others have taken advantage of.
It doesn't mean it's all Trump right, it does not,
(23:08):
But it does mean that his administration has caused some
issues down here. So when we focused on tariffs without
focusing on domestic production that would have boosted the economy
using those terrifts as an advantage versus a weapon, I
just think was poorly timed. It's a good plan, we
needed it, but I think there were things to fix
the Biden economics that screwed us over really bad as
(23:30):
a priority.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Okay, thank you for the call. Basically, it sounds like
he mostly doesn't agree with the things that Trump has
done we said, And I think this is important to
remember that this was an election, and I think Trump
ran it as an election that was focused on the economy,
border crime. You hear nothing about the border. I don't
know that anybody has ever been more successful in directly
(23:53):
addressing what they said they would address on something like
the border than we've ever seen in any of our lives.
Just not an issue right for a huge majority of you.
The border was maybe your number one issue. Certainly it
was in the top three. So border is solved. He
solved it in ten months. He solved it in six months.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Crime.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
We are right now heading towards potentially a fifty or
sixty year low in murders in the country. In cities
that Trump has actually aggressively addressed, Washington, d C. My
home state city of Memphis, the number of murders is plummeting. Buck,
(24:34):
this is not getting attention in Memphis. I had somebody
reach out to me. We're going to get on a
politician from Memphis to talk about it. He said, there's
a seventy percent decline in violent crime right now in Memphis. Again,
a lot of people don't pay attention to Memphis.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
It's a you know, one of the top forty or
fifty biggest cities. There's a lot of other cities that
are bigger that get more attention. That's an unbelievable success
story that could be extrapolated elsewhere. Economy, stock market is
at record highs, gas prices are down for the last
four years compared to where they were. The problem here
(25:10):
I see on economy and people say, oh, you don't
see it. I do see it. Prices went up so
fast that people are angry. Trump can't make prices go
back to where they were in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty.
It's never going to happen for the rest of our lives.
Biden screwed up so bad that the best thing Trump
can do is try to rehabilitate the economy that Biden destroyed.
(25:33):
That's the reality, and so I get that people are frustrated.
I think the people who are most frustrated with Trump
are upset because grocery bills are still high, and rent
is still high, and everything costs more than you think
it should.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
The problem is nothing ever goes back in price, so
you don't get to wave a magic wand and be like, hey,
everything cost what it did in twenty nineteen. That's the
pernicious awfulness of inflation and why it is so disastrous
to any country.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
The hope here is that the increases in productivity that
will come from AI and I don't think this is
pie in the sky. I've seen you know, when you
see enough drone factories and things, and when I was
in Taiwan and when I was at TSMC and talking
to them about what is already possible technologically, our lives
(26:25):
are going to be very different in over the next
ten years from what we've been used to in terms
of a lot of things that we're not going to
have to do a lot of things that will be
very easy to do or be done for us. And
that means that there can be attendant quality of life
and productivity increases and general wealth. Right they're like wealth
(26:47):
that all of us, we are all richer than the
kings of Europe from the time of Henry the Eighth,
all of us, all of you listening right now, it
is possible for humanity to actually just be wealthier. I
do think that AI is going to be a big
part of that. But the other issue we have is
that we have a political system where half the country
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still thinks that the other half the country is going
to come up with ways to pay all of the
bills that they don't want to pay, and that's not
going to change. And that's also unfortunately not sustainable. If
they're going to just run the printing presses like crazy.
And I know people say, well Trump spent a lot
of money during COVID. He did, but the Democrats absolutely
demanded that, and no one seems willing to do anything
(27:32):
about it now to bring the curve down in the
other direction. So this is where this is where we
are we talk about this. It's very frustrating whenever the
debt becomes an issue and we want to have that conversation,
it goes beyond just oh yeah, that's a political issue.
People say, well I paid into this, and they take
it very personally. You know, I paid for Medicare. Whatever
(27:53):
it may be, all right, so let me just keep
doing what we're doing. This is where this is where
it ends up. And I think lirtually, if you want
to talk about prices, when you have more dollars chasing
fewer goods, this is like econ one oh one week
one more dollars out in the system chasing fewer goods
and services, you have inflation. And that's what happened and
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now we're dealing with it. But you know, deflation would
be a painful process as well. So if it comes
too quickly, you know, I don't know, what do you
think I am. I basically as the broad strokes correct.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Here.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Your broad strokes are completely correct, and I get it.
I think that the degree of frustration is through the
roof over cost of goods and economy, border crime, border
solved crime trending towards record lows thanks to police being supported.
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I don't think it's getting enough attention. And Trump has
attacked in a way that I don't know that we've
ever seen before the violent crime in this country, and
he's winning on that level. You just have to trust them.
I really do believe the economy is going to be
firing on all cylinders. I think it's going pretty well
in the stock market right now. Gas prices are down again.
I think it's going to be firing on all cylinders
by the spring and summer. Problem is, prices are not
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coming back down. And I think it's to the extent
that anyone has promised you in any way that prices
are going to come back down to twenty nineteen or
twenty twenty levels the pre Biden era prices is just
not physically it's not going to happen.
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for a lot of the young people in New York
voted for them. Is I'm going to freeze the rent
that makes the problem of affordability worse. Everybody that makes
it worse. It may not make it worse that day,
but it will make it worse in the long run. Yeah,
for sure. That's awesome. All right.
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Welcome back in. We've got a actual guest with us,
doctor Mark Siegel. You all know him from Fox News
where he's the senior medical analyst. He's the author of
The Miracles among Us how God's Grace plays a role
in healing. Doctor Siegel, congrats on the book, Thanks for
calling in.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Great to be with you today. You know I'm a
friends of your wife.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Right Oh yeah, but carries a big fan, So when
you have a book coming out, it's not even a question.
She's like, she just told me doctor Siegel's come on
and talk about his book. I said, yes, ma'am, right away,
tell us about the book.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Same is me. So look, the book starts with the
idea that there's the Catholic Church as miracles that are
very rigid. But I actually look into that, and I
do a chapter on Lords and I in France and
I actually interviewed the doctor there at Di Franciscus, who
actually is a Harvard epidemiologist who trained as a pediatrician,
(31:53):
and he's very religious. That's the key to this book,
that you can combine faith and science. They're not different,
and they're not separate. It's not like, oh no, I'm
doing surgery now, I can't believe in God. That's just crazy.
In fact, we have to be looking at our patients
as precious, as spiritual, as individuals. That's why I'm against
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physicianists assisted suicide. This book is about people who defy
the odds. And in Lords, there's one case of Bernadette,
like the Bernadette that inspired Lords years ago, where she
was completely unable to walk because of her Quota aquina
syndrome and she couldn't control her bowels or bladder in
a horrible foot pain. She was in a wheelchair. She
(32:36):
went and visited there. Three days later she felt heat
through her body and suddenly it was fine and all
through prayer and Defranciscus looked at this, but here's the point.
He got thirty three other doctors involved. He got an
expert and involved, He got radiologists involved, He even got
psychiatrists involved. All said, this is really a spontaneous intervention
(32:58):
of God. Now that's not the only thing the book
is about, because those are hard miracles, those are church miracles.
There's also miracles that I am more interested in, which
is an accumulation of coincidences. I call it a miracle lane.
You're in the miracle lane and you can't even pick
out which is the specific miracle. The publisher of the
(33:19):
book from HarperCollins and ilesa sharky. We actually have a
back and forth what's the main miracle of that chapter?
And Clay will be interested to know that De mar
Hamlin story has a lot more miracles to it than
you might think.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Tell me about that, because for a lot of people
out there, that is one of the most chilling things
to see happen on a football field. For those of
you who have forgotten, football player makes a hit playing
for the Buffalo Bills and nearly dies on the field.
They have to bring out the shock machine to try
to bring him back to life. They put him in
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an ambulance, rush him out of there. Game basically ends
right then, what is the backstory now on DeMar Hamlin
and how exactly that went down.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
The backstory is the first miracle. It's that Leslie Bisson,
who is the team physician for the Buffalo Bills and
the Buffalo Sabers and the head of orthopedics at Buffalo
at the medical school. In two thousand and seven, he
had a skater almost die. It was a former Buffalo
Sabers skater and he bled from a carotid artery. He
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barely saved them with all of these transfusions, and he said,
you know what, from here on, all of my teams
are going to rehearse for tragic events on the field,
and they're going to be rehearsed and we're going to
be ready. And when he went to the Buffalo Bills,
they said, Leslie, you're crazy. We haven't had a carneiac
arrest on the field since nineteen fifty five. He says,
(34:48):
I'm rehearsing, and he had a premonition that one day
this would be needed. But everyone thought he was crazy.
But he had a drill and he had a defibrillator
right there, and he trained the the trainer of the
of the Bills and all of them were ready for
an event where somebody dropped on the field like Damar did.
That's why they rushed over there. And we have an
(35:09):
expression in medicine, time his brain, and they did. They
started CPR so fast, and that defibrillator so fast, and
they got their shoulder pads off so fast, only because
they had rehearsed it. Now, the next part of the
miracle is that when Damarro was recovering. People don't know this,
but Damar and I interviewed everybody for this, and the
doctors and the trainers and every DeMar was recovering, it
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took him a while to feel back in the game,
let's say, so to speak. And you know, it wasn't
just I woke he woke up. What was the final score?
It was more like it took a few days for
him to come back to himself. And then it was
a combination of prayer, very religious tomorrow and yoga and meditation.
All of these things helped him. And then he felt
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and this is another key to the book, that having
received a miracle, he needed to give out miracles, and
so he went around the community and he has been
the biggest proponent of defibrillators AEDs automatic defibrillators in any
facility imaginable. He's out there teaching CPR with that, with
the sports doock with Leslie Bisson, and he goes all
(36:17):
over the country. He's a great human being. God's giving
back to.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Him speing a doctor Mark Siegel of Fox News. He's
got a book out, the Miracles among Us how God's
grace plays a role in healing. Doctor Siegel. Interesting that
there's research, real research that has been done and is
still being done on prayer and helping people to heal.
I'm wondering if you could speak to that well.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
First of all, believe it or not. The part of
the brain, the right frontal part of the brain. I
spoke to the researcher on this exact issue. That part
of the brain where you connect the dots and you
kind of have to use your imagination and creativity. That
creates such a positive feeling believing in miracles that it
takes the place of negative feelings like political divisiveness and
(37:03):
the same part of the brain and it wants you
to join a community and it gives you a sense
of hope and reassurance to think that there's a greater
force than you out there that makes these decisions. God
gives us the miracles he wants us to have, not
necessarily the ones we're asking for, and knowing that that
we should fear God but not each other is greatly uplifting.
(37:25):
It definitely decreats his depression and it improves health outcomes,
which has been shown again and again. And I also
talk about that in the book where Bait way back
in the Old Testament, Hannah's praying for a son, and
God only answers that prayer because he looks down the
road and he knows that son will be Samuel, who
becomes a great prophet, so that we have to put
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our lives and our futures in God hands. Another great
story from the book related to that is Robert Redfield's
son who hits his head. Robert Redfield, former CDC director,
hits his head, goes into a deep coma herniates, is
not expected to recover at all, but he ends up
being brought to the top trauma center in the country,
(38:07):
in the world in Maryland. And Tom Scalia is not
a big believer. He runs the place, but he says,
you know, we do miracles here every day. I said,
what are the chances of Danny Redfield having a full recovery,
he says, probably zero. Danny Redfield fully recovers and ends
up back on the golf course, beating his old scores.
Because Robert Redfield and his wife are praying to God
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every single day. You know, he knew John Paul the
second he's involved in a Catholic church. He has a
group of Franciscan sisters praying for him in upstate New York.
One day, and this is a great story. One day,
he says to Danny, who is starting to recover, something's
wrong with your eye. Danny, what's wrong with your eye?
Are you seeing double? Danny says no, I can't see
(38:52):
out of my right eye at all. So Redfield goes
back to God and he says, you promised me a
full recovery. And I said to Redfield, you criticized the Lord,
and he said, why not? It worked? Two weeks later,
Danny singing, well out of both eyes.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
That's an amazing, amazing tell us how to get the book,
because going around I'm going around trying to sell a
book right now, I know how hard this is for
people out there who like these stories and would like
to maybe get some inspiration in their life?
Speaker 4 (39:21):
How can they find it?
Speaker 2 (39:22):
And that's the key. By the way, every one of
us has a miracle. We can tell my father's one
hundred and two years old, my mother's one hundred. They've
kept together through all of the medical turns in the road.
You need this.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
How many years have they been hold on? How many
years have they been married?
Speaker 2 (39:36):
They've been married seventy three years. They and they're married
through love of each other. And the fact that doctors
believe that you can operate and fix a hip on
a ninety eight year old or put a ninety nine
year old on a ventilator. Doctors that believe in what
they're doing and believe in God are more likely not
to give up on you. And that's really important. And
every story will inspire you in this book that you
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might have the same thing happen to you. And you
can get this book through Amazon, through Fox News Books,
through Barnes and Noble, and it will be published on
November eighteenth, but right now it's available in pre orders.
Get my book, get your book as well.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Yeah, everybody buy books. Let's read more great books for
the holidays. Doctor Stiegel, appreciate you sir, come back anytime.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Great to be on with you, guys. Thank you.
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Speaker 4 (42:10):
All right, welcome back in, give the little ass buck anything.
You might be getting a call from play at a minute,
but you can call and ask me whatever you want.
How about that it's Friday and we're having a good
time here. You, like I said, Clay might be ringing
us from the airport to let us know what kind
of chaos, what kind of a mess it has all
(42:32):
turned into?
Speaker 7 (42:32):
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Speaker 4 (42:33):
It is, It is tough, It is not going well
here with the shutdown situation. Jd Vance, This is twenty five.
Jd Vance is saying, now the pain start. It's one
thing to have a shutdown for a few days a week,
ten days. Now there's real consequences to this stuff. Play
twenty five.
Speaker 10 (42:53):
The American people are unfortunately about to start suffering some
very real consequences because of the shutdown. In the past,
when you had a government shutdown, you would have go
under the Obama administration, they would lean into all of
the problems it was going to cousse for the American people.
At the beginning of the shutdown, the President has told
us to keep as much going as humanly possible. But
(43:13):
after thirty days of this thing, forty days of this thing,
you're going to start seeing very real travel delays. That's
because the Democrat government shut down. You're going to start
seeing snap benefits run out. That's because the Democrat government shutdown.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
They should stop the charade and.
Speaker 10 (43:27):
Open up the government. That's what we want them to do.
We've been asking them to do it for forty days.
It's time.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
Why not just open the government up and then say, hey, guys,
we also have to fix the Obamacare exchanges by funneling
billions of dollars of subsidies to them afterwards. Do they
really think that Republicans are going to allow people to
have forty thousand dollars a year in expense for some
of these Obamacare approved plans, which is what some of
(43:54):
these plans are going to cost for a family of four,
Just completely unaffordable stuff and stuff that will will destroy
people's finances. What you'll have is a lot of people
will refuse to get insurance. And remember, we don't have
those Obamacare finds anymore, right, they got rid of that,
So you'll just have a lot of people who go
on insured. Isn't that the great irony of this Obamacare
(44:15):
will have made health insurance so expensive that without billions
of dollars of subsidies showered on it to just artificially
make people think the price has been decreased, Obamacare, the
quote Affordable Care Act, will have made healthcare so unaffordable
(44:37):
that people will choose not to have it. That's going
to become the legacy of the ACA. I think at
some level Democrats recognize this is going to be a
problem for them. This is going to be a problem
for their party. Because this is still the single most transformational,
(44:58):
unfortunately in a very bad way, p of legislation that
the Democrat Party has managed to get through. I'm probably
in twenty something years. I don't know, you have to
go back quite a while. The other big things that
Democrats have gotten that are wins are all just judicial fiat.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
It's the Supreme Court before the Trump appointees came on board,
handing them and in some cases even with the Trump
appointees handing Democrats the policy victories they could have never
gotten at the ballot box. And so there we have it. Oh,
speaking of judges, you also have this judge now who
has ruled this is what the administration must do on
(45:35):
on snap food stamps. Notice that why would they change?
This isn't this is meaningful? Why is it this supplemental
nutritional assistance program? Why not just call it food stamps?
What's wrong with that? We even call it something like
(45:56):
food aid? You know, why do we have to call
it supple We come up with this science sounding the
supplemental nutritional assistance. It's buying free food for people. It
is food welfare. Now, there are reasons when people can
be down on their luck things happen, I get it.
I do not think that we should have no safety net. Well,
(46:19):
if anything, we should have a safety net where we
take care of each other or decency and charity as
Americans means that nobody would ever go hungry because we
don't allow them to. But I'm not opposed to a
safety net. And I understand that things can be difficult
than people have challenges, but I also think we should
call things what they are. I also think that when
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you're giving food welfare, we should know as a people,
that's what it is. You hear, that's your welfare. A
lot less it's these all these bureaucracies also that administer
this stuff don't want people to think of what they're
doing as welfare because then they realize that this is
their money that's just being handed to people. And also
the bureaucracies are very wasteful and very bloated, so they remember,
(47:03):
the bureaucracies take a cut because this government money going
through government hands to get to the people who are
getting it for free. So yeah, we should call it
food stamps. The same way, they don't want you to
think of illegal aliens. Somebody who is not American, not
supposed to be in the country undocumented. What is undocumented
even mean? Is it really a meaningless term? The problem
(47:26):
is that they lack a document. No, the problem is
that they're illegally in the United States and they're in
violation of our laws. So these things do matter. The
way we talk about this does make a difference. But
on the snap ruling, because this is now that's the
official government term for it, maybe Trump should change that
it call it food welfare. What's wrong with that? All
(47:49):
the different welfare forms we have, I might add, you know,
people were for of Section eight housing, for example, what
does that mean? That could be anything? Actually eight housing
we don't call the medicaid. We don't call anything really.
I mean, there's probably some exceptions, but we don't call
things welfare anymore because it's always supposed to be hidden
(48:12):
from the American people in the taxpayer. The size and
scope of the free stuff that we are giving to
people in a country where half the country pays no
income tax whatsoever. That's that's not a good and sustainable program,
is it. Here's vance on the judge's ruling about how
(48:36):
this is just a judge saying this is what the
federal government must do now the government shut down on
food stamps Play twenty six.
Speaker 10 (48:43):
It's an absurd ruling because you have a federal judge
effectively telling us what we have to do in the
midst of a Democrat government shutdown, which what we'd like
to do is for the Democrats to open up the government,
of course, and then we can fund snap and we
can also do a lot of other good things for
the American people. But in the midst of a shutdown,
we can't have a fed court telling the president how
he has the triage of the situation. We're trying to
(49:04):
keep as much turned on. We're trying to keep as
much going as possible. The President and the entire administration
are working on that. But we're not gonna do it
under the orders of a federal judge. We're going to
do it according to what we think we have to
do to comply with the law, of course, but also
to actually make the government work for people in the
midst of the Democrat government shut down.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
I mean, what if the judge just said the Democrats,
I've got a better idea. Hey, judge, whatever you know,
Obama or Biden or maybe maybe probably not Clinton. That's
going back too far. But Obama Biden, judge, this is uh.
Or are the Democrats to reopen the government? How why
don't we try that one? If we're just gonna become
(49:47):
king for a day as a federal judge, let's just
have the government reopened by the fiat of a judge.
Just trample off, trample on the executive I mean, the
legislative branches, prerogative. Just forget about all that. You're the judge,
you're the emperor in the black robes, and just do
your thing. There's way too much of this, way too
(50:10):
much of this stuff going on to try to stop
this administration, to order around this administration, to dictate to
the Trump team from these judges. And notice that Trump
just the way he handles it is to go to court,
go through the process, go through the process. That's not
how kings do things. For the no Kings protest, honestly,
(50:30):
I don't know how people, I don't know how you
can take yourself seriously if you go to a no
King's protest, Oh no kings. It is so pathetic. But
people would rather continue to be sanctimonious and wrong than
be self effacing and right. So common Unfortunately it's so common.
(50:54):
I hate being wrong. Clay and I share this. We
both if we get any fact wrong, anything we say.
When I say wrong, inaccurate right, predictions, you know, you
win some, you lose some. We like to have fun
with predictions. But no one can predict the future. So
that's that is what it is. That's more of a
parlor game than anything else. But accuracy really counts. Accuracy
really matters. It bothers me to be inaccurate, but also analysis.
(51:19):
If I'm really wrong on a point of analysis, I
try to go back, admit that first off, and then
try to understand why. The great part of being a
Democrat is never admitting you're wrong, never admitting that your
policies are dumb, that your ideas are idiotic, that it's destructive,
that you make everything worse for everyone, including yourself, with
most of the things that you want to have happen.
(51:41):
You know, the walk back from climate change is the
biggest existential threat in the world, which is happening a
little bit quietly. But with Bill Gates and then others too,
Why are they making more movies about how I'm in Florida,
Go try to get a deal on Florida, Florida beachfront
real estate right now, Okay, especially given what just happened
(52:02):
in New York, go try to get a deal. Say somebody,
you know what, I'm gonna help you out. You're right
here on the beach, very close to those rising oceans.
I'm gonna give you twenty percent of what you think
this place is worth. I'll take it off your hands.
See what happens. Let me know how that goes for you.
Of course, it was all nonsense. It was all lies.
They were all wrong. All that climate change stuff is absurd,
(52:23):
and yet they never have to stop and think, you
know what, m maybe there's a problem there, say anything
with the government shutdown, I might add, as soon as
we end this government shutdown, or rather it ends, Democrats
are going to pretend like this wasn't a thing that
they did, and the suffering that people had because of
it was not their fault. They're just going to lie
about all of it and lies. Unfortunately, as they're very destructive,
(52:47):
they're also very powerful. Lies are a very effective tool
of power because if you can always lie to people
about what you do, you can never be held responsible
for what you do, and therefore you can convince the
masses of whatever you need to stay in power just
by lying to them. That's why when Gavin Newsom said
he hates politicians who lie, everyone across the country with
(53:08):
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