November 10, 2025 • 61 mins
Clay's New Studio! Clay debuts his new studio, complete with a treadmill that he'll be walking on during the show to try stay in shape. He jokes that he might have to change his background though because it resembles a penis. Clay and Buck argue that the shutdown was a strategic move by Democrats to sow chaos and emotional unrest ahead of the elections but ultimately backfired. The hosts emphasize that the disruption to air travel—delayed flights, unpaid air traffic controllers, and public frustration—was a tipping point that forced Democrats to retreat. President Donald Trump’s response to the shutdown is spotlighted, including his call for bonuses for air traffic controllers who continued working and criticism of those who took time off. The show frames this as a leadership moment, contrasting Trump’s decisive stance with what they describe as Democrat disarray. Clay and Buck also dive into the internal conflict within the Democratic Party, noting that eight Democrat senators broke ranks, leading to what they call a “civil war” within the party. Chuck Schumer and Bernie Sanders are both criticized, with Sanders accused of using emotional manipulation and class warfare rhetoric to rally support. The show mocks the Democrats’ messaging around “Trumpism” and their failure to deliver tangible results from the shutdown. Most Hated Industry in America Clay and Buck argue that the Affordable Care Act has led to skyrocketing premiums, reduced quality of care, and a broken system that benefits insurance companies more than patients. The discussion includes commentary on SNAP benefits, obesity-related healthcare costs, and the lack of price transparency in medical services. The hosts call for market-driven reforms and accuse Democrats of subsidizing the most hated industry in America—health insurance. Healthcare Realities A major segment focuses on healthcare policy and the future of Obamacare, with in-depth criticism of how Democrats have handled healthcare reform. The hosts argue that the Affordable Care Act has empowered insurance companies and failed to deliver meaningful improvements, potentially setting the stage for a push toward a single-payer system. A retired healthcare executive calls in to offer a free-market solution, emphasizing the need to reduce government control and restore physician autonomy. In a cultural pivot, the show covers President Trump’s surprise appearance at an NFL game, where he flew over in Air Force One and joined the Fox Sports broadcast booth. Trump’s commentary on football, his high school playing days, and interactions with players like Drew Brees are discussed as emblematic of his growing cultural acceptance. The hosts highlight how athletes, including the Detroit Lions, celebrated Trump with the now-viral “Trump dance,” signaling a shift in how young men and sports figures view the president. Leftwing Bitchiness Reflections on the end of the longest government shutdown in U.S. history, with Clay and Buck criticizing Democrats for what they describe as a performative and damaging political stunt. The hosts argue that the shutdown achieved little beyond public frustration and economic disruption. The conversation shifts to pop culture as Kim Kardashian’s repeated attempts to pass the California bar exam are discussed. While acknowledging her billionaire status, the hosts commend her persistence and ambition, contrasting it with what they perceive as a lack of humility and gratitude from former First Lady Michelle Obama. A significant portion of the hour is dedicated to a critical examination of Michelle Obama’s public statements, her Princeton thesis, and her perceived victimhood narrative. The hosts argue that the Obama family received unprecedented media grace and support, especially compared to other presidential families, including the Bushes, Clintons, and the current First Family under President Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of The Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. Much to discuss the government shutdown.
Where are we on this one? Inching closer to official
reopening here? There's a deal in the Senate, so it
looks imminent that the government will be formally opened. But
(00:30):
Democrats took this through the election and sure enough turned
around and said, you know what, we probably should open
this government at some point, considering that people are getting
stuck on tarmac's, flights are being delayed, government employees aren't
being paid, air traffic controllers, all of those things going
(00:50):
on here. And it seems, Clay increasingly clear that the
pain and chaos was the point of what the Democrats
were doing all along. Their desire was exactly what we saw,
which was to frustrate people, to make them anxious, to
make them agitated in advance of the elections. And you, sure, yes,
(01:14):
go ahead. You look like I can't tell if you're
swiveling around with energy about this or you're just in
your new studio.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'm in my new studio. So Buck, there's several things
that could go awry. First of all, we're gonna have
to get a picture taken. I am attempting, and you're
gonna think this is the most ridiculous of all decisions
that I've ever made. I'm attempting now to do the
show from a treadmill, like I'm trying to walk like
four miles. Yeah, You're losing your mind, and I'm probably
(01:42):
gonna step off, and this is gonna be ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
We have designed in the new studio.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I have a walking desk where I am right now
attempting to do like four miles instead of sitting. This
is my attempt to make America healthy again. I'm trying
to do the show like totally normal, just standing here
from a Yeah. So at some point if I just
take a wrong step, at some point, I may just
(02:09):
kill myself.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
This is this is gonna be an interesting decision.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
All I saw was you the shoulders moving side to side,
and I thought you were just so excited to talk
about the shutdown that you couldn't contain yourself. Like my
baby does this when I walk in the room if
he hasn't seen me, he shakes side to side. But
that is in fact not what's going on you were
walking while doing the radio show. I'm gonna have to
This is gonna take me a beat to get get
used to, this.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Get adjusted to. And also for people watching on the
new cameras, I am told that I look like a
penis with two different logos of Clay and Buck on
either side of me. So there's no telling how much
will go awry before we get this all fixed. But
even if we are a mess on the show, optically, Buck,
(02:55):
we're not as mess a much of a mess as
the Democrat Party.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Is right now.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
They have completely screwed this all up. And this is
yet another story that I would say we got completely
right because we told you that they wanted to have
their stupid no Kings protest, and we told you that
they wanted to have the election in Virginia with all
of the federal employees who were likely to be showing up,
(03:24):
and that as soon as they did that, which they did,
at some point they would buckle. And it's amazing how
quickly we pivoted from Boy Republicans have got a real
issue here to try to figure out exactly what's going
on to Boy. Democrats are a mess. Eight Democrat senators
have joined in, and now as a result, I think
(03:48):
you're going to see a real civil war breaking out
among the Democrat party over how do they solve that,
What is the next step, what should they.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Do going forward?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I don't know that they even have a very good answer,
because right now, Hakeem Jefferies is speaking on CNN Live
and he's.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Screaming at everybody.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And these eight senators have come out and they've made
the choice that they wanted to make, and so I
just think this is exactly what we told everybody was
going to happen.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
They had no plan, they got nothing. They threw a
temper tantrum.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
You've got a six month old, hopefully he's not having
temper tantrums yet.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
But Speed is way better behaved than Democrat senators. It's
not even for time.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
You get the temper tantrum that comes out and there
is no result, and they're going to be even more frustrated.
The left is going to lose their mind over this.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
So Trump put this out. As we've said, there's already
been agreement. I don't think Democrats could really walk back
from this in the Senate after they've made these concessions,
and we'll get into some of the specifics of what
the deal looks like to get the government back open.
Over the weekend, Trump was saying, and many others were saying,
to nuke the filibuster. Time to go, time to make it.
And there may still be an argument underway about that.
(05:04):
But here's what Trump says about air traffic controllers. This
is always clay historically, where the rubber meets the road,
so to speak. On the shutdown, when people really get
angry is when air traffic is a complete mess and
you have people that are not able to go on
business trips, on vacations, go see relatives, waiting three hours,
(05:25):
waiting twenty four hours, you know, cancel flights, all that stuff.
So Trump put this out. All air traffic controllers must
get back to work now. Anyone who doesn't will be
substantially docked. For those air traffic controllers who were great
patriots and didn't take any time off during the Democrats shutdown, hopes,
I will be recommending a bonus of ten thousand dollars
per person for distinguished service to our country. For those
(05:49):
that did nothing but complain and took time off even
though everyone knew they would be paid in full. I
am not happy with you, very Trump here, very big
daddy Trump, letting everybody know where he stands on this.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, and look, I do think if you're a Democrat
and you are convinced that Trump is a king, and
you are convinced that Trump is Hitler, and you finally
had your party say we're not going to take this anymore,
and then they just meekly come back and.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Say, actually, we're just going to open the government back up.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And I do think Buck, this is a function of
all of the travel issues, because whether you're a Democrat,
Republican or an independent, if you have to stand in
line for hours to get through TSA, people lose their mind.
And if you have to put yourself in a position
where you are somehow defending that absurdity, it's not a
(06:40):
good spot to be in it.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Again. I just come back to we said this exactly
was what was going to happen.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
They would get through the elections on Tuesday, they would
look around and they would say, hey, we don't really
have the ability to keep this up forever. Republicans called
their bluff, said we're not going to change anything, and
as a result, these Democrats, these eight just came back
meekly and said, Okay, we're going.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
To do it. Here's what they did, Buck.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
They gave Chuck Schumer an opportunity to look tough so
that he can stand up to AOC right, which I
think is a huge part of what.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
He's trying to do.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And then ultimately, even though he's not involved in reopening
the government he voted against it. His number two, Dick
Durbin from Illinois, was in favor of it, which kind
of gives you a nod that Chuck Schumer is telling
his constituents behind scenes, Hey, let's go ahead and do this.
And the whole thing is just it's a debacle. Let's
(07:38):
be honest. There is no actual benefit that the Democrat
Party has gained in any way.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Well, they threw a tantrum. Yeah, I think that they've
set the groundwork for the emotional manipulation that is going
to be the foundation of their mid term pitch. Right,
what are they going to say so that they can
take control of the House. And then all it's going
to be is do everything you can to stop Trump
from doing anything for the last two years of his presidency. Right,
(08:06):
do everything you can in pgs to in PHM and
just be as difficult as possible, grind the gears of
government to a halt. To the degree they can do that,
they're they're really heavily leaning into the class warfare stuff.
It's feeling very two thousand and nine all over again here, Mom.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Donnie took the mask off buck in his speech. Even
the Washington Post editorial board I was reading it said, oh,
he's a nice he's a gentle you know, socialist. As
soon as he won, he was like, we're coming for you.
We're going to tax you. There are gonna be consequences.
We've got a mandate. We got over fifty percent. Get ready.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah. And that's people say, well, what happens to the
identity politics of the Democrat coalition? All they shift focus
a little bit now, they go from race communism to
old school communism. That's essentially the playbook, I think, And
that's why the healthcare issue plays so heavily into this,
and why Bernie Sanders. Of course, Bernie Sanders is one
(09:09):
of the big voices you'll hear out there who's upset,
as he always is, about the millionaires and the billionaires
and all this stuff here. This is a video that
he released on social media. This is cut to where
he is slamming.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
What is he slamming?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You'll hear it, play it.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Tonight, eight Democrats voted with the Republicans to allow them
to go forward on this continuing resolution. Into my mind,
this was a very very bad vote.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Just on Tuesday, we had an election all over this country.
And what the election showed is that the American people
want us to stand up to trump Ism, to his
war against working class people, dontarianism. That is what the
American people wanted. But tonight that is not what happened.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
What is the war against working class people? And what
is that? What does that even mean? These are this
is what I mean by emotional manipulation. This is buzzwords
to get people to play into Oh my bills? Are
you know high?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I have frustration in life? It's someone else's fault. If
it is someone else's fault, fine, but let's at least
know who and why and then fix that instead of
just playing on the rage of the masses, which is
what Bernie's trying to do.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Buck think about the arguments that they simultaneously were making.
They said, hey, everybody's gonna go hungry and too many
people are gonna starve to death. Basically, that's what they
were trying to say with the SNAP related issues.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And as soon as.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
The government opens back up, what are they saying? How
dare we not stand up to Trump? Wait a minute,
what is the consequence of a government shut down? Is
it that tons of people are not gonna have enough
food to eat, in which case the government should reopen immediately,
or is it that you're just trying to extract pain
against and throw a temper tantrum. Well, as soon as
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the government gets opened back up, everybody who wants those
Snap benefits is going to get them. By the way,
site Notebuck, have you seen a lot of the people
being interviewed talking about their necessity of needing Snap. Does
it look like most of those people are a meal
away from starvation?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Because to me, it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
And in fact, I think there's a stat out there
that the people that are on SNAP benefits, as you
pointed out, they're not making the most healthy decisions when
it comes to the food that they're choosing to buy.
And it used to be that we would hear all
the time about oh, you know, there's a food desert,
or there's an inability for people out there to be
able to make healthy decisions.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But as you pointed out, they did a.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Study where they gave people subsidized healthy foods, and the
overall purchases of food did not change at all. In fact,
people continued to make unhealthy dietary decisions. But this idea
that calorically, somehow there's a huge percentage of Americans that
are struggling and not getting enough to eat. Most of
the people that are on snap benefits that I've seen
(12:04):
interviewed talking about how desperately they need Snap benefits actually
look like they could go a couple of weeks without
eating anything and might be in the healthier position.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Look, I think, first of all, you know, if you
the CDC even estimates that the costs we're talking about
healthcare costs, extreme obesity costs the American healthcare system two
hundred billion dollars a year extreme obesity two hundred I'm not,
by the way, don't start a all fucking on. You
know you've been twenty pounds or forty pounds overweighted. No, No,
(12:34):
I'm talking about like like somebody who is morbidly obese.
That's the term you use for two hundred million dollars
a year is what that costs. But the other part
of this, and you know you've been tweeting about it,
I've been tweeting about it. We need to actually look
at what's going on with healthcare in this country because
Obamacare they want to move away from this.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Obamacare is a massive by its own standards everyone, a
massive failure. It has increased quote, coverage at the expense
of cost quality care. Everything that's gotten worse. You have
a little thing now that says you have Obamacare or whatever,
you have a plan that's on an exchange, or you're
(13:14):
part of the Medicaid expansion. But you didn't increase doctors,
you didn't increase efficiency in the system. You've made costs
for those who actually pay for their healthcare premiums more
than double, a lot of cases triple. And the Democrats
answer to this is to shovel tens of billions of
subsidies in the city. They're just hiding play, they're just
(13:36):
hiding the actual costs.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well, when you subsidize something that is bad, the thing
that you subsidize gets worse. And we subsidized healthcare. All
Obamacare really.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Is is a huge giveaway to insurance companies. And do
you know.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Who the most hated groups of companies in America are
healthcare insurance companies because no one has any idea what
things cost because you can't figure out why you have
to pay X one week and the next week it
goes to why because there is no cost analysis associated
with this at all. So Obamacare is an unmitigated disaster.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Buck. It is a failure of epic magnitude.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
And it failed in exactly the ways that people like
me who were opposed to it at the time said
it would. I'm not saying I'm the only one all
Republicans were paying attention to this, Clay, but it is
an absolute mess. It is a disaster, and I think
that we all need to start to grapple with the
realities of the healthcare system instead of really what it is.
They just plan to make the whole thing collapse into
(14:40):
a single payer that's the whole They're just gonna make
everything medicare. They're going to try to do the Canada
model here, which is gonna be a nightmare everybody. It's
just gonna make it all worse when.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
We come back.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I want to hear what MSNBC viewing was like this morning.
Oh yeah, I saw you at the six box. You
know things have gotten serious when you have six people
who simultaneously need to be taught talking about how awful
things are.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
And I've also seen some of the Blue Sky reactions.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Blue Sky is the far left wing version of Twitter,
and they're having complete meltdowns there over the Democrats bending
the knee to King Trump.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
We'll talk about that. Unfortunately, we lost, Buck.
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Speaker 2 (17:04):
So the shutdown is about to end, and I was
curious how they were going to spin this. So this
morning I was a lovely Morning. I was sitting there.
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was sitting there and I had little I had ginger
on one side, speed on the other, and I'm like,
all right, I'm I'm prepared. I'm prepared to subject myself
to the madness.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Of Morning not subject. You are the number one fan
of Morning Joe. Don't downplay it here. You are their
base clay.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Just because I am so dedicated for this team that
I'm willing to suffer through this. Let's not pretend like
I just want to see what kind of zipsweater Joe
is wearing so I can mirror image it myself sometime,
or I can watch Mika get all hissy up there.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I don't know that some times going that well, Buck,
I don't I just just doing a little bit of
a viewing.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
They don't seem very happy.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, I had a female co host on TV at
one point. I gotta tell you, marriage is tough enough.
I can't imagine being married and then showing up and
being co host on a TV show together as well.
That would be It's a lot. That's a lot of stuff.
That's why I try not to text Clay over the weekend,
because like, fifteen hours during the week of talking to
each other not enough. I gotta be like, hey, buddy,
what's going on? What are you up to? You know,
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we try to try to give each other a little
space on the weekends. As Clay is now catching his
breath on the treadmill, so we have no he's good,
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Speaker 3 (18:53):
I'm gonna be in such elite shape. People are not
going to recognize me now with this treadmill setup.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
So morning, Joe, they had to come up with some
kind of a position on it. And I just want
you to get a sense you already know where this
is going. Somehow, the Democrats shut down the government caused
all this pain, didn't get the concession that they were demanding,
didn't get the you know the Rather, the hostage taking
did not result in what they actually wanted. And the
(19:23):
real takeaway here is that the American people, according to
Morning Joe, are blaming Republicans play for.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
This is not like a Republican position or a Democratic
position when it comes to the voters, and certainly not
an independent fight. This is not partisan. They're Americans and
red state America who desperately need this help. They're Americans
in blue state America that need this help too. But
(19:51):
I guarantee you from Dalton, Georgia, to Bucks County, Pennsylvania,
to every place in America, rural place in America, also.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
The Republicans are not on their side, not in this debate.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
And I just sounds a little bit like a guy
who's practicing a stump speech. Part one, Part two, Part two.
This is a Republican's fault. Like they're just doing the
thing that we said they would do all along, which
is they've lit the fire. Okay, the house is now burning,
the fire department's coming, and they're walking around telling the neighbors,
can you believe these guys with this fireclay. It's crazy
(20:32):
what's going on here.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I also think it's kind of amazing how quickly we
went from boy, Republicans are really going to have to
have a civil war now two Democrats are at each
other's throats almost overnight. And I just wonder in a
larger context, you and I asked this question from the
get go. You can't enter into a decision like the
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Democrats did here with no exit ramp. We talked about
this for forty days. We said, there is no exit
ramp here. There is no goal that they are somehow,
in some form or fashion going to get.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
And so again no King's.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Protest on what was at October eighteenth, that Saturday, beautiful
day all over the country that Democrats gave up to
rally against President Trump. And then you had the election,
and I do think it probably juice turnout in northern
Virginia and helped them get a little bit more political
power in that state than they otherwise would have. But
(21:36):
then everybody who is in any way moderate on the
Democrat side of the aisle just says, hey, we got
to sue for peace, and buck I think the ultimate yes,
it was no Kings. Yes, it was also the election
having taken place. We told you that it would get
solved right after that. I think what they didn't calculate was,
(21:56):
I guarantee you they're getting blown up about all of
the issues at airports because it's one thing to hear, Hey,
the government's shut down, and it's having this impact. I'm
talking about if you're not air traffic control, if you're
not military, if you're not a federal employee. But as
soon as I show up at the airport and I
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have to stand in line for hours to get through TSA,
or even worse than that, you get to the airport,
you stand in line for hours at TSA, and then
your flight gets canceled. Democrat, Republican or independent. People are mad,
and you don't want to be on the receiving end
of people being mad, especially when there isn't really a
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basis for any kind of tangible result that they're going
to get. And that was why I actually thought about
you this morning. When I woke up, I was like,
I don't want to put on MSNBC. I got to
get the kids to school. I got to make sure
that things are going okay here. But a part of
me was a little bit jealous that you got to
sit and watch the chaos unspool on MSNBC, because I
(23:00):
did put it on for just a few minutes last night,
just to see all of the people on the panel saying,
wait a minute. They got us all worked up. They
told us that they were standing up to Trump, and
then the result is after forty days, they say, well,
we made the conversation shift, Oh we made this. They
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just failed and it just makes them look utterly incompetent,
and a part of me wonders if they're gonna demand
Chuck Schumer's head on a platter over this buck.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Oh guess what Sonny Hostin? Oh yeah, chief chief bitterness
analyst over at the View. She's She's the queen of
Queen of bitter. She always always unhappy about something.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Being married to Sonny Hostin, Buck, can you imagine that
poor bastard husband, Like, how awful his life must be.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I bet he works one hundred and.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Eighty hours a week just to avoid having to spend
time with her. She just seems like an energy vampire
of epic magnitude. Even in the context of the View.
I don't think i'd be fun to be married to
Whoopie or Joy Behar. But they don't seem like they're
awful humans. Sunny Hostin seems to me to be an
awful human.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
She's a she's definitely she really should call her Sonny hostile.
Oh yeah, she's very she's very hostile.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yes, very hot.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I mean she's very very un unhospitable and hostile.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Here she is.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
She's hostile toward Chuck Schumer. It turns out play twenty
now they just cave and surrendered.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
I think Chuck Schumer his days are over and he.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Cannot put that.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
If he cannot keep his pockets together, if he cannot
keep this clocketts together, he needs to go Clay.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
What this really is is uh, you know Reme remember
the the two minutes hate with Emmanuel gold See in
nineteen eighty four, where Evering just shouts, I know, Emmanuel
gold state, all right, so bad and no one even
don't even know who this guy is or what's going
on or whatever. But it's just meant to get everybody.
This is the Left just venting their spleen, their rage,
(25:08):
their anger at trump Ism. And this was all in
advance of the election, going to election day to make
them think Democrats are fighting. It was all kabuki theater.
It's all a pantomime.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I also think Buck this could be one of the
lasting impacts of it. They have created a world if
you go look at issues, where people think, oh, Democrats
they care about health care more than Republicans. Now, I'm
not saying that everybody out there listening right now believes this,
but they have created the idea, oh, we care way
more about healthcare than the opposing party. I actually think
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the failure of Obamacare is going to open a larger
conversation about health care where we sit back and we say,
wait a minute. Structurally, all we did with Obamacare was
give huge subsidies to health insurance companies that huge majorities
of Americans don't like. Instead of I saw Trump put
(26:10):
up a truth post about this. Instead of putting more
money in people's pockets and letting them make rational decisions
about what healthcare they need or want that is the
best result for their family, for all of you out there,
they said, hey, let's just give way more money to
health insurance companies and let's mandate that everybody has to
(26:31):
buy health insurance.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
It's a really bad idea.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
That I don't think Republicans have really elucidated. Well, you
have the least popular for profit businesses in America health
care companies, and the Democrats solution that people feel like
cheat them, that people feel like, don't give them adequate coverage,
that don't give them adequate customer service. Can you even
(26:56):
get your health care provider insurance company on the phone?
And when you do, how many times do they actually
help you or even be able to explain why you're
being charged what you are?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I mean, I hate health insurance companies. Most of you
do too.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
In fact, you might even argue with your spouse over
who has to call the health insurance company when you
have a billing dispute, because it's such a miserable experience.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
And so the Democrats solution to.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Healthcare was to give the least popular industry in America
a handout of hundreds of billions of dollars to make
them more money. I'm sorry, that's a really bad position
for them to try to defend.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Well, you know, this is where you get into the
ways that this market is. It's not a market really
at all. It manipulated so much that it's just central
it's just central planning held together with some elements of
the market in some places, but Clay. This is when
people find out that if you have insurance, the price
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could be you know, six hundred dollars for whatever it
is that you're doing. If you don't have insurance, the
price can be three hundred dollars. But if they find
out you have insurance, you're not allowed to pay the
three hundred dollars no insurance price.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
This is all about taking money from some people to
pay for other people who don't want to pay for
the stuff that they're getting. That is the whole thing.
And by the way, this is all it's not insurance.
It's not even insurance. You should not be paying for
you know, or rather when you go into the doctor
for your checkup and for these things, you shouldn't be
(28:43):
filing acclaim.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You know. This is when people think about with their car.
When do you call your car insurance? If somebody t
bones you at an intersection and you've got real damage,
right or you know there's something that serious happened to
your car, you don't call them. If you know an
a corps larren scratches the rim, you don't call them.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
For gas.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
But our whole healthcare system is just that now to
you know, everywhere you go. I can't even get in Clay.
I could go in somewhere, you know, Oh, I think
I have a sinus infection. I have to fill out
fifteen minutes of paperwork about allline. Probably even though it's
all online now, you still have to fill out the
stupid paperwork over and over and over again. What's your insurance?
Do you have a secondary insure? Who's your spouse is?
(29:23):
It's all garbage.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
It's infuriating, It's infuriating.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
And that's why I think Republicans have an opportunity here
because all Democrats have done is subsidize the most hated
industry in America and give them more money to an
already broken system. And I think that conversation is actually
going to become more paramount here because this is a major,
(29:47):
major issue, and look, Democrats are going to try to
make it an issue in twenty twenty six. I think
trying to defend health insurance companies as doing a good
job and deserving more of our money is not something
that most Americans are going to nod along with. And
I just come back to time after time after time.
The reason healthcare is broken in this country is because
(30:10):
nobody has any idea that builds on just what you
were saying, Buck, what anything is going to cost?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Hold on, No, you're not allowed to know. It's actually
worse than that. You're not allowed to know cost. It's
not like you're just walking around, you know, like, oh,
just you know, who cares about whatever? I could go
into the back office of a hospital and say, hey, guys,
what is the actual cost of this? They say, we'll
get back to you in three months with a big bill.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
By the way, look, I talked about this when my
wife was having bait with our babies. Right. It's one
of the few healthcare things where you can actually go
around and ask what something costs. I said, how much
is it going to cost to have a baby here?
I'd like to compare that cost with somewhere else? They said, well,
we don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
How can you.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Give me an opportunity to tour maternity wards and the
only thing you're not competing on your competing on Wi
Fi bamboo.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Flooring, waiting rooms. You can't tell me what the cost
is it was.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I can tell you it's everybody out here in Miami Beach. Uh,
in this area at least, it's all it's all turning
into concierge medicine. Yeah, people are just doctors are just
opting out of this system. And it's not because they're
being greedy. They just want to be able to practice
medicine without being paperwork. Uh, you know, adult bureaucrats all
day long, and so people are just paying. This is
(31:28):
what's gonna increasingly happen. And you can have all these
Democrats saying I love the I love Obamacare. They're not
Obombacare plans. Correct, They're on gold plated, amazing plans. They
see any doctor they want, they don't pay anything. I mean,
if friends, if you want to want to see what
their version of healthcare looks like for all of us,
go see how it all was working out in the
Soviet Uni. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Sure it was all free.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
But well you know the government employees who never gave
a paycheck. Yeah, everybody in Congress, they kept getting paid.
We'll take we'll take your calls on this, my friends.
Here in a moment, we're.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
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Speaker 3 (32:53):
That we finally are going to have an into the
incredibly unsuccessful government shutdown that has been going on for
forty days. It appears that it will be over officially
on Thursday. The shutdown already underway, as eight different Democrat
senators have joined all of the Republican senators. We had
(33:15):
to get to sixty in order for that to happen.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Now.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Unfortunately, the air travel disruption situation, I'm looking at it
right now on Fox News book there are three thousand
nearly flights that have been canceled today.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Over eleven thousand delays.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
So if you are trying to travel right now, this
is frankly a complete mess all over the country. As
I think a big part of why we finally got
this resolution was because Democrats have recognized one they're not
going to get anything accomplished, and two.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
We are now past the No.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Kings Day and election in Virginia. But a third part
of this is a lot of people were and have
become super frustrated overall with everything going on relating to
air traffic delays, and so that is where we are
positive news. In fact, I believe we have audio from
(34:18):
Senator Angus King who went on MSNBC and said, hey, yeah,
by the way, it turns out that the decision to
not open the government to shut down made everything more
more powerful as it pertains to all things Trump. Can
we play that cut from earlier today on MSNBC.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Please.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
You have to go back to what the strategy was
at the beginning of the shutdown. There were two goals,
both of which I support. One was standing up to
Donald Trump. The other was getting some resolution on the
ACA premium tax credit issue. The problem was the shutdown
wasn't accomplishing either goals, and there was practically well it
was zero likelihood that it was going to In terms
(35:04):
of standing up to Donald Trump, the shutdown actually gave
him more power. Exhibit A being what he's done with
Snap and Snap benefits across the country. Oh, by the way, Joe,
you're going to love this. Guess who's getting paid during
the shutdown. Not the park rangers or air traffic controllers,
the ice agents under special law under that big awful
(35:27):
bill that they passed last summer. The ice agents are
being paid. Nobody else is. So standing up to Donald
Trump didn't work. It actually gave him more power.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah, so Angus King going on with MSNBC and saying, hey,
we've actually ended up in a situation where President Trump
has more power than he would otherwise. Also, by the way,
Trump is continuing, he is meeting with the new president
of Syria. Underrated aspect of foreign diplomacy that has not
(36:00):
gotten a ton of attention was normalizing relations with Syria
helped to create more Mid East peace because everybody was
lining up against Iran and giving a nod towards the
new government in Syria helped with the relationships with other
Middle Eastern countries as it pertains to all of that
(36:22):
stock market. Not surprisingly, buck up substantially as the government
shutdown comes down, and now the big battle has become
Democrat senators, everybody is pointing the finger at Chuck Schumer.
So question for you, where does Chuck Schumer go from here?
And let me give you the scenarios. He's got AOC
(36:43):
really after him on the left flank, and that was
I think a huge part of the motivation for why
he decided to allow this shutdown to take place as well.
Now eight senators on the right are coming forward and
saying this is ridiculous. We're not getting anything. We have
to go back and uh and and open the government
(37:03):
back up. We're getting too much blowback. We're not getting anything.
This is a negative overall for the party. Where does
this leave Chuck Schumer? Because we play you want me
to be a lot of the pressure.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Is he done? Like his career end?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
At this point, Chuck Schumer's chief comms guy, Okay, here
we go. Uh. This doesn't look good for Chuck right now,
here's what's gonna happen, though. He's going to go into
this next year gearing up for the mid terms, doing
a lot of fundraising, a lot of pressing of the palms.
What he's gonna say is, guys, I fought, I fought.
(37:36):
You got it. You know, you can't have these upstarts
like AOC. They don't know the game so important that
we take control of at least the House in this
midterm election. And I I know, and I'm gonna fight
in the Senate and I'm Chuck Schumer. He's created the
narrative to allow him to go to the uh you know,
ten thousand dollars or plate dinners or whatever it is,
(37:58):
in order to present him self as the resistance against Trump.
People will forget and this may sound cynical, but I
think it's quite obviously true. People will forget that this
was much ado about nothing, and he will turn it
into oh, I stood and fought and we got some
concessions out of Trump when we were in the minority.
Just wait till we actually have a majority in Congress.
(38:21):
Give me money, Chuck Schumer. That's the whole thing that's
going to be the pitch.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
I think.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
So he's going to create a narrative out of this
that ignores the truth of what really happened here. The
best asset that he has sho hire me, by the way.
I feel like that's pretty good for Schumer spokesman.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Oh, not so much. I don't know. I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I think the best asset that Schumer has is that
AOC doesn't actually want to be a senator. That's my
she wants to be president. I don't think she sees
that much difference in being a House of Representative member
or a senator. There is, but I think her aspirations
are higher.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Her senate's an excellent steppingstone, especially for Democrats. That's how
they always see it. Remember, Democrats like to have senators run,
We like to have governors run.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Okay, So question then in that context, And I don't
know that anybody's even talked about this, Mam donnie. We
know he could be governor one day, he could be
senator one day.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
That's the apex of his power.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
You can argue, New York City mayor is a higher
level of office than senator or governor would be. Is
there a world where Mam Donnie decides to challenge Chuck Schumer.
If AOC is running for president, and we know that
Mam Donnie can't run for president because he was born
in Uganda, I'm just trying to play it out for Schumer.
(39:39):
A lot of these results buck to me end with
Schumer not running for reelection next year. The problem with
that is what else does Chuck Schumer have going on
such that he would give up power at seventy five
or seventy six years old, which is young compared to
Nancy Pelosi who went all the way.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Up to eighty five.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
And again that's depending on who control, because if you're
in the minority, that's not necessarily very enjoyable. I'm told
from people who you know work day to day in
the Senate.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
When is uh? When is Schumer up? When is his
turn next year?
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Right? Next year?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
So he's up, so I mean by January or February
of next year, right, meaning like four months from now,
we'll start to find out whether anybody is actually going
to primary him or not. I'm not sure what the
filing deadline is in New York, but he's terrified AOC
is going to primary him. My thought is AOC doesn't
(40:34):
actually want to be Senator, although maybe to your point,
she thinks, hey, I can be a senators.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Not the reelection next year. I thought he was up
in twenty six. No, no, no, no, no, no, okay,
he's up in twenty eight. Yeah, and yeah he's up
in he's up in twenty eight. So that's this is
But this is all right, now, maybe you do want
to hire me as Schumer spokesman. Clay he just goes
into the fundraising cycle for next year. No one's even
gonna by the time he's up, no one's even going
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to remember this challenge from his left flank. I always
thought that was a little overblown as an explanation for this.
I think that they realized the real problem is that
with Obama, they got to shore up. The boat is
taking on water with Obamacare in a big way, and
that causes big problems for them on the healthcare front.
And twenty in the midterms, healthcare was the quiet issue.
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Wasn't really that quiet, but health care was the issue
in twenty eighteen that delivered the Democrats a big win. Overwhelmingly.
It was healthcare that they said was what was, you know,
propelling them forward?
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Well, that's why I said in the last hour, I
think the issue they could have going forward is they
may well have created real obstacles for themselves on the
only issue that really they show up in a positive vein. Now,
I know people, the economy is just it's a negative
(41:56):
frankly for everybody because there's just a lot of unhappy people.
Border crime, very positive Trump issues. I think the economy
by next year is going to be a Trump issue
if Democrats don't have health care. If a lot of
people start to have the conversation that we did last hour,
where they look around and say, wait a minute, the
reason why healthcare companies have increasingly more and more power
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is because the Democrats just gave them hundreds of billions
of dollars in handouts. I think a lot of people
might start to say, wait a minute, Democrats have totally
screwed this up, and Obamacare has made everything worse. And
I think, to your point, the idea with Obamacare, honestly,
it feels like it's designed to fail so that they
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can just to your point, say, hey, government's got to
take over everything otherwise everybody's going to die.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Which is that was always that was always the opposition
to Obamacare from the start was that the way it
was constructed was destined to fail, but that failure would
lead to a single payer system, which is Medicare for all,
which is what Bertie Sanders is always saying, which you
want to talk about out of control costs and blowed
in bureaucracy and waiting. I mean, you know, if the
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government is writing all the checks for everybody's health care
and you have something like this in the UK where
the government also controls the output of healthcare right National
Health Service, which means that not only are they paying
for it, but they are the deliverers of the product.
And the NHS has blown an enormous hole in the
UK economy for decades. The whole thing's a disaster. I
(43:28):
thought this was interesting, though, Clay that of the eight
Senate Democrats who have voted to end the shutdown, none
of them are up for reelection next year. So the
thing that they have going for, the thing that they
all have in common is that they're not facing angry
AOC leftists next year because it's a it's a pretty
wide You got Dick Durbin out of Illinois, super Several.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Of those guys too are stepping down buck like Seth
Right Heen like they're they're just.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Waving on their way out.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
So these are the Democrats that it's safe for them
to stop the madness. Quartes Mastone have Well, you got
a purple state there, but she's not up next year,
you know, to Tim Kaine or Virginia, Angus King of Maine,
Jackie Rose in Nevada, Jean Shaheen New Hampshire, none of
them are up. I think that's very interesting.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
The most vulnerable incumbent in fact is John Ossoff, who
next year Georgians will be deciding, hey, are we going
to re elect this guy? There's a primary battle underway
to figure out who the Republican nominee is going to be.
He supported this and Georgia you talk about a state
that is truly up for grabs. All of the elections
in Georgia have been very close, notwithstanding the statewide when
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that Brian Kemp had that was so substantial in twenty
twenty two. But yeah, in twenty twenty six. Osoff is
up next year. He's probably the only sitting incumbent that
would be in true peril in terms of potentially getting
beaten in a normal election cycle where it doesn't drastically
favor one side or the other. And he voted to
(45:01):
continue the shutdown, and he's been voting in favor of
men and women's sports, and so he's really out of
touch with the overall voters of Georgia. Now the question
will be what does the electorate look like in you know,
eleven months there. But it is interesting to me that
he bent the knee and stayed committed to the far
(45:23):
left wing even in a very middle of.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
The road state.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Clay, you know what they say. There are a lot
of quarters of baseball left here. So it's a lot
of time, a lot of time between now and that
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things I want to talk to you about. Obviously, the
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shutdown is coming to an end, longest shutdown in our history,
and the Democrats are trying to say they fought the
good fight. Really, they threw a temper tantrum and they
made people anxious, frustrated, and made people suffer just because
Democrats like to do those things. They did not actually
(47:16):
achieve their main end, but we'll discuss that a bit
more coming up. We've also got the very very important
news that Claire reminded me of that Kim Kardashian, despite trying,
did not pass the California bar exam. I believe she's
tried a few times at this point, but has not
yet passed it. So we're hoping, we're pulling for Kim
(47:39):
to pass the bar exam. I think she isn't she
worth a billion dollars so this really is just like
a personal mountain that she is trying to climb.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
I we'll get into this, but yes, she is.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
She definitely does not need the money that might come
from practicing law in any way.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
So that's not obviously an important story, but it's one
of those stories that people are going to be talking about.
So I just thought i'd let you know she has
failed the bar exam three times already, but she's gonna
keep going. And you know what Clay a wise man
once said to me, Persistence is the key. Persistence is
the key, very very important.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
A lot of people are making fun of her, and
I'll just say this, I think we should encourage people
to try to do hard things, and it would be
very easy, to your point, buck, when you become a billionaire,
to just say, hey, I've got everything I could possibly want.
I'm not going to try to push myself any further.
And she decided she wanted to try to become a lawyer,
(48:38):
and she is attempting to do it. I would point
out who was it that failed the bar a ton
of times, JFK Junior, I think, if.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
I remember correctly, Yeah, yeah, well no one thought the
JFK Junior was going to be a rocket scientist, so
that's not surprising for me.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
But I mean he went straight to law school. I
think they led him into Columbia or Harvard or wherever
the heck they did.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Completely irrelevant. They let him in because of his last name. Yes,
he could be illiterate Kennedy, and they would have led
him into Harvard law school and he continued to trail.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
So anyway, I do think everybody's trying to poke fun
at her, but I give her credit for being willing
to try to do something super hard when she could
just chill and have an easy life.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
I think it's I think it's important to always try
to work on yourself and to be willing to embrace
the humility that must come with that. So I'm actually
with you. I'm far less. I'm not you know, Oh
my gosh, how could you fill the bar? Exam. Good
for Kim Kardashian for trying, and hopefully at some point
(49:36):
she'll pass. On the other side of the gratitude scale, yes,
on the other side of that scale, we have the
former First Lady Michelle Obama, who has a remarkable talent
for seeming just perpetually ungrateful and full of grievance, which
(49:59):
for somebody who has who was the First Lady for
eight years, I don't even know how many magazine covers.
Uh has her pick of which billionaires three hundred million
dollar yacht she chooses to vacation with her daughter's on.
I don't know if you could find all in a
more privileged and elitist person on the planet, it would
(50:24):
be very hard, right, because you know, yeah, there's like
like Elon Musk is worth a ton of money, but
Elon Musk is like sleeping on the floor of the
Tesla factory building. All this stuff big cost to his
personal life. Some people hate him, obviously, He's the allied
with Trump. Michelle Obama, everwhere should go. She is worshiped,
worshiped by elite society, and yet you when she talks
(50:46):
about things like, for example, how she needed to have
a celebrity style glam team when she was in the
White House, this is how she speaks of it. Play eight.
Speaker 8 (50:57):
I didn't really have that choices firstly, worst right, yeah,
every day every time I was up as we called it,
you know, I was up for the public, yes, and
the days were long, so as you mentioned, to save time,
you know, I know, having a glam team a trifecta.
It feels like a luxury, but it was a time's time,
(51:19):
this necessity. There's absolutely no way that I would be
able to do my hair and make up and have
clothes ready that fit, you know, because where is the
woman that can live off the rack?
Speaker 2 (51:35):
I know a lot of women who live off the rack,
eight Clay, I know a lot.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
Actually, Michelle Obama might be the person who should give
the country more gratitude than anyone that has the least
gratitude of anyone in public eye that I can see.
And every time she speaks, I like her less and
I don't think I'm unique in that she has been hoddled,
(52:00):
she's been protected, she has been told that she is
incredibly accomplished and a uniquely transcendent figure, such that she
decided that she needed to start her own podcast. I
actually feel sorry for Barack Obama for having to deal
with her, And let me explain why that is. I
(52:21):
went off. I might have gone off more on this
than almost anybody in the country when she wasn't willing
to show up for Jimmy Carter's funeral. To me, it
was such a personal slap in the face to every American.
Speaker 5 (52:34):
Look.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
I understand you don't want to always have to go
to public events, but when you run for president of
the United States, or when you are married to the
President of the United States, there are certain moments that
demand to me that you show up and show the
least semblance of respect for the country that you could.
(52:55):
Hillary Clinton was at the funeral for Jimmy Carter. The
Bushes were at the funeral for Jimmy Carter. Certainly Trump
and Milania were there. It doesn't take a lot to
be willing to give a few hours of your time
to get on a private jet and fly somewhere, get
(53:18):
off be respectful for a couple of hours. She didn't
show up for the inauguration of Trump Barack Obama. Did
I give him credit for that? She doesn't seem like
a person that would be fun to spend time with.
Buck and I just I look at this and instead
of saying, hey, boy, you know I'm from I think
(53:38):
the South side of Chicago. If I'm not mistaken, I
grew up and I got to be the first lady
of the United States, I married the president. What is
an incredible story that is that you can be a
kid from the south side of Chicago and you can
grow up to do this, right. I mean, you know
who's actually leaned into that, because I think he's also
(53:58):
from the South side of Shchaquaro the Pope.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
The American Pope Leo. He's talked.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
I've seen quite a lot about how amazing it is
that a kid who grew up on the South side
of Chicago could ascend to become the Pope. I just
every time Michelle Obama speaks, I think to myself, what
a be careful here, you might need to turn down
the radio.
Speaker 1 (54:22):
What a bitch? What an ungrateful bitch?
Speaker 3 (54:25):
Michelle Obama is unique among all of the first ladies
of different political parties. All she does is wine and
talk like, hey, well I have to have a glam
squad or I'm not even gonna travel with my uh
with my wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
People, Oh, I don't.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
I don't wear a lot of things off the rack.
I wear everything off the rack. I know a lot
of women that wear things off the rack. Now you
can come after me because I shouldn't, because you should say, oh,
you should have that better tailored. Oh why are your
pants drag? Why are your sleeves too long?
Speaker 1 (54:57):
Those are criticisms.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
The answer is because I just things off the rack,
and I'm not a diva, and I just I don't
get it.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (55:07):
Every time she speaks buck, I just think to myself, boy,
she had an opportunity. She reminds me of the US
women's soccer team. I think there's a lot of this.
I don't think it's just unique to her for left
winging people. Do you remember when Meghan Raupino they were
playing in the World Cup and she just chose that
opportunity to take shots at President Trump said, I'm not
(55:28):
gonna go to the White House. I'm not gonna visit
and then she insulted him with explotives. And I'm thinking
to myself, you were on the national stage for young
women everywhere around the world who aspire to grow up
and be great soccer players like you.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
How about a sentilla.
Speaker 3 (55:45):
Of gratitude for the fact that you have this opportunity
and this.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
Left wing and I think it's.
Speaker 3 (55:53):
Primarily women, honestly, which is the foundation of the Democrat Party.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
This left wing.
Speaker 3 (56:00):
Hectoring, ungrateful, baseline bitchiness that is the Democrat Party.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Buck. I think it's why men are done with them.
Speaker 3 (56:09):
Every man out there is like, yeah, I've had to
deal with that in my life. It's like every single
Democrat woman has got her finger out and.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
She's lecturing you all day long.
Speaker 3 (56:21):
And I think a lot of women out there listening
to us right now are nodding along. It's like the
whole party is just the most annoying person at your
job who's lecturing you about something that she doesn't like
that really isn't anything wrong at all.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
Nothing has changed, by the way, in the apparent attitude
that Michelle Obama formerly Michelle Robinson has, you can easily
go find her Princeton thesis, which I read back in
the y you told me it was just atrocious administration.
It is atrocious. It is absolutely brutal reading in terms
of you're like, what is this? But it's Princeton educated
(56:57):
blacks and the black community is was her was her thesis.
Does anyone want to guess what it's about? The isolation
and the feelings of subtle racism you deal with as
a black student at Princeton. She wrote her thesis on this,
her entire like the peak, the pinnacle of her academic
life as an undergraduate was to write a one hundred
(57:19):
page whine about how hard it was to be black
at Princeton, which, by the way, this was in the
heyday of affirmative action. She probably got about three hundred
points worth of assistance on in terms of SAT comparison,
at least two hundred plus points to get into Princeton.
Speaker 3 (57:36):
So the reason she could whine about being black at
Princeton is because she was black at Princeton.
Speaker 2 (57:42):
And being black and applying to Princeton at that time
was a particular privilege in the admissions process. So yes,
that is the great irony of this. Michelle Obama got
into Princeton in large part because she was a black woman.
And then she wrote a thesis about her heart it
was to be a black woman at Princeton, and that
kind of sums up the attitude.
Speaker 3 (58:02):
I also think it sums up the legacy media in general,
the protect you see the I don't know that we
played this clip.
Speaker 1 (58:08):
I think it was last week. It was going viral.
Speaker 3 (58:10):
She was saying something like, oh, our family never got
the grace that other families got. And I saw that clip.
Maybe we can grab it before we finished the hour,
and I'm sorry, Buck. Do you remember, as I do,
the Bush daughters getting destroyed by national media for relatively
(58:32):
minor teenage related infractions as if they were modern day
you know, felons of an enormous magnitude. They got treated
basically the same as Hunter. And by the way, how
about the Bidens. Now they did a lot, but Hunter
and all the other Biden kids got incredible negative media attention.
And Chelsea back in the day, I don't remember everybody
(58:56):
bending over backwards to.
Speaker 1 (58:57):
Treat Chelsea really well.
Speaker 3 (58:59):
And so you look at all the other kids, I
would say that the Obamas and their daughters got treated
more fairly than any children of the president have, regardless
of political party, in my whole life. And we know
we've had all these guys on the program. Do you
think the Trumps have been treated fairly like the kids?
(59:21):
I'm not talking about Trump himself. They would put them
in prison if they could, for sure, and they haven't
done anything wrong. Yes, all true.
Speaker 2 (59:30):
Well, the Democrats tried to be clear they would It's
not just they would desire to put Trump family members
in prison, they made moves to do so.
Speaker 1 (59:38):
Oh totally.
Speaker 3 (59:40):
Other people are gonna say, oh, well Hunter, Yeah, Hunter
committed about one hundred felonies on his laptop.
Speaker 1 (59:46):
If you just click and went and looked through any of.
Speaker 3 (59:49):
Hunter's laptop, he got insanely favorable treatment.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
I guess maybe it was all just Russian disinformation.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
Story.
Speaker 2 (59:59):
That's a joke, everybody, that's a joke. Calm down, Calm down.
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Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of The Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. Much to discuss the government shutdown.
Where are we on this one? Inching closer to official
reopening here? There's a deal in the Senate, so it
looks imminent that the government will be formally opened. But
(00:30):
Democrats took this through the election and sure enough turned
around and said, you know what, we probably should open
this government at some point, considering that people are getting
stuck on tarmac's, flights are being delayed, government employees aren't
being paid, air traffic controllers, all of those things going
(00:50):
on here. And it seems, Clay increasingly clear that the
pain and chaos was the point of what the Democrats
were doing all along. Their desire was exactly what we saw,
which was to frustrate people, to make them anxious, to
make them agitated in advance of the elections. And you, sure, yes,
(01:14):
go ahead. You look like I can't tell if you're
swiveling around with energy about this or you're just in
your new studio.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'm in my new studio. So Buck, there's several things
that could go awry. First of all, we're gonna have
to get a picture taken. I am attempting, and you're
gonna think this is the most ridiculous of all decisions
that I've ever made. I'm attempting now to do the
show from a treadmill, like I'm trying to walk like
four miles. Yeah, You're losing your mind, and I'm probably
(01:42):
gonna step off, and this is gonna be ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
We have designed in the new studio.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I have a walking desk where I am right now
attempting to do like four miles instead of sitting. This
is my attempt to make America healthy again. I'm trying
to do the show like totally normal, just standing here
from a Yeah. So at some point if I just
take a wrong step, at some point, I may just
(02:09):
kill myself.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
This is this is gonna be an interesting decision.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
All I saw was you the shoulders moving side to side,
and I thought you were just so excited to talk
about the shutdown that you couldn't contain yourself. Like my
baby does this when I walk in the room if
he hasn't seen me, he shakes side to side. But
that is in fact not what's going on you were
walking while doing the radio show. I'm gonna have to
This is gonna take me a beat to get get
used to, this.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Get adjusted to. And also for people watching on the
new cameras, I am told that I look like a
penis with two different logos of Clay and Buck on
either side of me. So there's no telling how much
will go awry before we get this all fixed. But
even if we are a mess on the show, optically, Buck,
(02:55):
we're not as mess a much of a mess as
the Democrat Party.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Is right now.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
They have completely screwed this all up. And this is
yet another story that I would say we got completely
right because we told you that they wanted to have
their stupid no Kings protest, and we told you that
they wanted to have the election in Virginia with all
of the federal employees who were likely to be showing up,
(03:24):
and that as soon as they did that, which they did,
at some point they would buckle. And it's amazing how
quickly we pivoted from Boy Republicans have got a real
issue here to try to figure out exactly what's going
on to Boy. Democrats are a mess. Eight Democrat senators
have joined in, and now as a result, I think
(03:48):
you're going to see a real civil war breaking out
among the Democrat party over how do they solve that,
What is the next step, what should they.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Do going forward?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I don't know that they even have a very good answer,
because right now, Hakeem Jefferies is speaking on CNN Live
and he's.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Screaming at everybody.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And these eight senators have come out and they've made
the choice that they wanted to make, and so I
just think this is exactly what we told everybody was
going to happen.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
They had no plan, they got nothing. They threw a
temper tantrum.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
You've got a six month old, hopefully he's not having
temper tantrums yet.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
But Speed is way better behaved than Democrat senators. It's
not even for time.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
You get the temper tantrum that comes out and there
is no result, and they're going to be even more frustrated.
The left is going to lose their mind over this.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
So Trump put this out. As we've said, there's already
been agreement. I don't think Democrats could really walk back
from this in the Senate after they've made these concessions,
and we'll get into some of the specifics of what
the deal looks like to get the government back open.
Over the weekend, Trump was saying, and many others were saying,
to nuke the filibuster. Time to go, time to make it.
And there may still be an argument underway about that.
(05:04):
But here's what Trump says about air traffic controllers. This
is always clay historically, where the rubber meets the road,
so to speak. On the shutdown, when people really get
angry is when air traffic is a complete mess and
you have people that are not able to go on
business trips, on vacations, go see relatives, waiting three hours,
(05:25):
waiting twenty four hours, you know, cancel flights, all that stuff.
So Trump put this out. All air traffic controllers must
get back to work now. Anyone who doesn't will be
substantially docked. For those air traffic controllers who were great
patriots and didn't take any time off during the Democrats shutdown, hopes,
I will be recommending a bonus of ten thousand dollars
per person for distinguished service to our country. For those
(05:49):
that did nothing but complain and took time off even
though everyone knew they would be paid in full. I
am not happy with you, very Trump here, very big
daddy Trump, letting everybody know where he stands on this.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, and look, I do think if you're a Democrat
and you are convinced that Trump is a king, and
you are convinced that Trump is Hitler, and you finally
had your party say we're not going to take this anymore,
and then they just meekly come back and.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Say, actually, we're just going to open the government back up.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And I do think Buck, this is a function of
all of the travel issues, because whether you're a Democrat,
Republican or an independent, if you have to stand in
line for hours to get through TSA, people lose their mind.
And if you have to put yourself in a position
where you are somehow defending that absurdity, it's not a
(06:40):
good spot to be in it.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Again. I just come back to we said this exactly
was what was going to happen.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
They would get through the elections on Tuesday, they would
look around and they would say, hey, we don't really
have the ability to keep this up forever. Republicans called
their bluff, said we're not going to change anything, and
as a result, these Democrats, these eight just came back
meekly and said, Okay, we're going.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
To do it. Here's what they did, Buck.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
They gave Chuck Schumer an opportunity to look tough so
that he can stand up to AOC right, which I
think is a huge part of what.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
He's trying to do.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And then ultimately, even though he's not involved in reopening
the government he voted against it. His number two, Dick
Durbin from Illinois, was in favor of it, which kind
of gives you a nod that Chuck Schumer is telling
his constituents behind scenes, Hey, let's go ahead and do this.
And the whole thing is just it's a debacle. Let's
(07:38):
be honest. There is no actual benefit that the Democrat
Party has gained in any way.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Well, they threw a tantrum. Yeah, I think that they've
set the groundwork for the emotional manipulation that is going
to be the foundation of their mid term pitch. Right,
what are they going to say so that they can
take control of the House. And then all it's going
to be is do everything you can to stop Trump
from doing anything for the last two years of his presidency. Right,
(08:06):
do everything you can in pgs to in PHM and
just be as difficult as possible, grind the gears of
government to a halt. To the degree they can do that,
they're they're really heavily leaning into the class warfare stuff.
It's feeling very two thousand and nine all over again here, Mom.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Donnie took the mask off buck in his speech. Even
the Washington Post editorial board I was reading it said, oh,
he's a nice he's a gentle you know, socialist. As
soon as he won, he was like, we're coming for you.
We're going to tax you. There are gonna be consequences.
We've got a mandate. We got over fifty percent. Get ready.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah. And that's people say, well, what happens to the
identity politics of the Democrat coalition? All they shift focus
a little bit now, they go from race communism to
old school communism. That's essentially the playbook, I think, And
that's why the healthcare issue plays so heavily into this,
and why Bernie Sanders. Of course, Bernie Sanders is one
(09:09):
of the big voices you'll hear out there who's upset,
as he always is, about the millionaires and the billionaires
and all this stuff here. This is a video that
he released on social media. This is cut to where
he is slamming.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
What is he slamming?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You'll hear it, play it.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Tonight, eight Democrats voted with the Republicans to allow them
to go forward on this continuing resolution. Into my mind,
this was a very very bad vote.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Just on Tuesday, we had an election all over this country.
And what the election showed is that the American people
want us to stand up to trump Ism, to his
war against working class people, dontarianism. That is what the
American people wanted. But tonight that is not what happened.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
What is the war against working class people? And what
is that? What does that even mean? These are this
is what I mean by emotional manipulation. This is buzzwords
to get people to play into Oh my bills? Are
you know high?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I have frustration in life? It's someone else's fault. If
it is someone else's fault, fine, but let's at least
know who and why and then fix that instead of
just playing on the rage of the masses, which is
what Bernie's trying to do.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Buck think about the arguments that they simultaneously were making.
They said, hey, everybody's gonna go hungry and too many
people are gonna starve to death. Basically, that's what they
were trying to say with the SNAP related issues.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And as soon as.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
The government opens back up, what are they saying? How
dare we not stand up to Trump? Wait a minute,
what is the consequence of a government shut down? Is
it that tons of people are not gonna have enough
food to eat, in which case the government should reopen immediately,
or is it that you're just trying to extract pain
against and throw a temper tantrum. Well, as soon as
(11:02):
the government gets opened back up, everybody who wants those
Snap benefits is going to get them. By the way,
site Notebuck, have you seen a lot of the people
being interviewed talking about their necessity of needing Snap. Does
it look like most of those people are a meal
away from starvation?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Because to me, it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
And in fact, I think there's a stat out there
that the people that are on SNAP benefits, as you
pointed out, they're not making the most healthy decisions when
it comes to the food that they're choosing to buy.
And it used to be that we would hear all
the time about oh, you know, there's a food desert,
or there's an inability for people out there to be
able to make healthy decisions.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But as you pointed out, they did a.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Study where they gave people subsidized healthy foods, and the
overall purchases of food did not change at all. In fact,
people continued to make unhealthy dietary decisions. But this idea
that calorically, somehow there's a huge percentage of Americans that
are struggling and not getting enough to eat. Most of
the people that are on snap benefits that I've seen
(12:04):
interviewed talking about how desperately they need Snap benefits actually
look like they could go a couple of weeks without
eating anything and might be in the healthier position.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Look, I think, first of all, you know, if you
the CDC even estimates that the costs we're talking about
healthcare costs, extreme obesity costs the American healthcare system two
hundred billion dollars a year extreme obesity two hundred I'm not,
by the way, don't start a all fucking on. You
know you've been twenty pounds or forty pounds overweighted. No, No,
(12:34):
I'm talking about like like somebody who is morbidly obese.
That's the term you use for two hundred million dollars
a year is what that costs. But the other part
of this, and you know you've been tweeting about it,
I've been tweeting about it. We need to actually look
at what's going on with healthcare in this country because
Obamacare they want to move away from this.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Obamacare is a massive by its own standards everyone, a
massive failure. It has increased quote, coverage at the expense
of cost quality care. Everything that's gotten worse. You have
a little thing now that says you have Obamacare or whatever,
you have a plan that's on an exchange, or you're
(13:14):
part of the Medicaid expansion. But you didn't increase doctors,
you didn't increase efficiency in the system. You've made costs
for those who actually pay for their healthcare premiums more
than double, a lot of cases triple. And the Democrats
answer to this is to shovel tens of billions of
subsidies in the city. They're just hiding play, they're just
(13:36):
hiding the actual costs.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well, when you subsidize something that is bad, the thing
that you subsidize gets worse. And we subsidized healthcare. All
Obamacare really.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Is is a huge giveaway to insurance companies. And do
you know.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Who the most hated groups of companies in America are
healthcare insurance companies because no one has any idea what
things cost because you can't figure out why you have
to pay X one week and the next week it
goes to why because there is no cost analysis associated
with this at all. So Obamacare is an unmitigated disaster.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Buck. It is a failure of epic magnitude.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
And it failed in exactly the ways that people like
me who were opposed to it at the time said
it would. I'm not saying I'm the only one all
Republicans were paying attention to this, Clay, but it is
an absolute mess. It is a disaster, and I think
that we all need to start to grapple with the
realities of the healthcare system instead of really what it is.
They just plan to make the whole thing collapse into
(14:40):
a single payer that's the whole They're just gonna make
everything medicare. They're going to try to do the Canada
model here, which is gonna be a nightmare everybody. It's
just gonna make it all worse when.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
We come back.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I want to hear what MSNBC viewing was like this morning.
Oh yeah, I saw you at the six box. You
know things have gotten serious when you have six people
who simultaneously need to be taught talking about how awful
things are.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
And I've also seen some of the Blue Sky reactions.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Blue Sky is the far left wing version of Twitter,
and they're having complete meltdowns there over the Democrats bending
the knee to King Trump.
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We'll talk about that. Unfortunately, we lost, Buck.
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all right, I'm I'm prepared. I'm prepared to subject myself
to the madness.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
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Speaker 2 (17:57):
Just because I am so dedicated for this team that
I'm willing to suffer through this. Let's not pretend like
I just want to see what kind of zipsweater Joe
is wearing so I can mirror image it myself sometime,
or I can watch Mika get all hissy up there.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I don't know that some times going that well, Buck,
I don't I just just doing a little bit of
a viewing.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
They don't seem very happy.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, I had a female co host on TV at
one point. I gotta tell you, marriage is tough enough.
I can't imagine being married and then showing up and
being co host on a TV show together as well.
That would be It's a lot. That's a lot of stuff.
That's why I try not to text Clay over the weekend,
because like, fifteen hours during the week of talking to
each other not enough. I gotta be like, hey, buddy,
what's going on? What are you up to? You know,
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we try to try to give each other a little
space on the weekends. As Clay is now catching his
breath on the treadmill, so we have no he's good,
he's money, he's some money.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I'm gonna be in such elite shape. People are not
going to recognize me now with this treadmill setup.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
So morning, Joe, they had to come up with some
kind of a position on it. And I just want
you to get a sense you already know where this
is going. Somehow, the Democrats shut down the government caused
all this pain, didn't get the concession that they were demanding,
didn't get the you know the Rather, the hostage taking
did not result in what they actually wanted. And the
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real takeaway here is that the American people, according to
Morning Joe, are blaming Republicans play for.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
This is not like a Republican position or a Democratic
position when it comes to the voters, and certainly not
an independent fight. This is not partisan. They're Americans and
red state America who desperately need this help. They're Americans
in blue state America that need this help too. But
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I guarantee you from Dalton, Georgia, to Bucks County, Pennsylvania,
to every place in America, rural place in America, also.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
The Republicans are not on their side, not in this debate.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
And I just sounds a little bit like a guy
who's practicing a stump speech. Part one, Part two, Part two.
This is a Republican's fault. Like they're just doing the
thing that we said they would do all along, which
is they've lit the fire. Okay, the house is now burning,
the fire department's coming, and they're walking around telling the neighbors,
can you believe these guys with this fireclay. It's crazy
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what's going on here.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I also think it's kind of amazing how quickly we
went from boy, Republicans are really going to have to
have a civil war now two Democrats are at each
other's throats almost overnight. And I just wonder in a
larger context, you and I asked this question from the
get go. You can't enter into a decision like the
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Democrats did here with no exit ramp. We talked about
this for forty days. We said, there is no exit
ramp here. There is no goal that they are somehow,
in some form or fashion going to get.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
And so again no King's.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Protest on what was at October eighteenth, that Saturday, beautiful
day all over the country that Democrats gave up to
rally against President Trump. And then you had the election,
and I do think it probably juice turnout in northern
Virginia and helped them get a little bit more political
power in that state than they otherwise would have. But
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then everybody who is in any way moderate on the
Democrat side of the aisle just says, hey, we got
to sue for peace, and buck I think the ultimate yes,
it was no Kings. Yes, it was also the election
having taken place. We told you that it would get
solved right after that. I think what they didn't calculate was,
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I guarantee you they're getting blown up about all of
the issues at airports because it's one thing to hear, Hey,
the government's shut down, and it's having this impact. I'm
talking about if you're not air traffic control, if you're
not military, if you're not a federal employee. But as
soon as I show up at the airport and I
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have to stand in line for hours to get through TSA,
or even worse than that, you get to the airport,
you stand in line for hours at TSA, and then
your flight gets canceled. Democrat, Republican or independent. People are mad,
and you don't want to be on the receiving end
of people being mad, especially when there isn't really a
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basis for any kind of tangible result that they're going
to get. And that was why I actually thought about
you this morning. When I woke up, I was like,
I don't want to put on MSNBC. I got to
get the kids to school. I got to make sure
that things are going okay here. But a part of
me was a little bit jealous that you got to
sit and watch the chaos unspool on MSNBC, because I
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did put it on for just a few minutes last night,
just to see all of the people on the panel saying,
wait a minute. They got us all worked up. They
told us that they were standing up to Trump, and
then the result is after forty days, they say, well,
we made the conversation shift, Oh we made this. They
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just failed and it just makes them look utterly incompetent,
and a part of me wonders if they're gonna demand
Chuck Schumer's head on a platter over this buck.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Oh guess what Sonny Hostin? Oh yeah, chief chief bitterness
analyst over at the View. She's She's the queen of
Queen of bitter. She always always unhappy about something.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Being married to Sonny Hostin, Buck, can you imagine that
poor bastard husband, Like, how awful his life must be.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I bet he works one hundred and.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Eighty hours a week just to avoid having to spend
time with her. She just seems like an energy vampire
of epic magnitude. Even in the context of the View.
I don't think i'd be fun to be married to
Whoopie or Joy Behar. But they don't seem like they're
awful humans. Sunny Hostin seems to me to be an
awful human.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
She's a she's definitely she really should call her Sonny hostile.
Oh yeah, she's very she's very hostile.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yes, very hot.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I mean she's very very un unhospitable and hostile.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Here she is.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
She's hostile toward Chuck Schumer. It turns out play twenty
now they just cave and surrendered.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
I think Chuck Schumer his days are over and he.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Cannot put that.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
If he cannot keep his pockets together, if he cannot
keep this clocketts together, he needs to go Clay.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
What this really is is uh, you know Reme remember
the the two minutes hate with Emmanuel gold See in
nineteen eighty four, where Evering just shouts, I know, Emmanuel
gold state, all right, so bad and no one even
don't even know who this guy is or what's going
on or whatever. But it's just meant to get everybody.
This is the Left just venting their spleen, their rage,
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their anger at trump Ism. And this was all in
advance of the election, going to election day to make
them think Democrats are fighting. It was all kabuki theater.
It's all a pantomime.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I also think Buck this could be one of the
lasting impacts of it. They have created a world if
you go look at issues, where people think, oh, Democrats
they care about health care more than Republicans. Now, I'm
not saying that everybody out there listening right now believes this,
but they have created the idea, oh, we care way
more about healthcare than the opposing party. I actually think
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the failure of Obamacare is going to open a larger
conversation about health care where we sit back and we say,
wait a minute. Structurally, all we did with Obamacare was
give huge subsidies to health insurance companies that huge majorities
of Americans don't like. Instead of I saw Trump put
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up a truth post about this. Instead of putting more
money in people's pockets and letting them make rational decisions
about what healthcare they need or want that is the
best result for their family, for all of you out there,
they said, hey, let's just give way more money to
health insurance companies and let's mandate that everybody has to
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buy health insurance.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
It's a really bad idea.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
That I don't think Republicans have really elucidated. Well, you
have the least popular for profit businesses in America health
care companies, and the Democrats solution that people feel like
cheat them, that people feel like, don't give them adequate coverage,
that don't give them adequate customer service. Can you even
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get your health care provider insurance company on the phone?
And when you do, how many times do they actually
help you or even be able to explain why you're
being charged what you are?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I mean, I hate health insurance companies. Most of you
do too.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
In fact, you might even argue with your spouse over
who has to call the health insurance company when you
have a billing dispute, because it's such a miserable experience.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
And so the Democrats solution to.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Healthcare was to give the least popular industry in America
a handout of hundreds of billions of dollars to make
them more money. I'm sorry, that's a really bad position
for them to try to defend.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Well, you know, this is where you get into the
ways that this market is. It's not a market really
at all. It manipulated so much that it's just central
it's just central planning held together with some elements of
the market in some places, but Clay. This is when
people find out that if you have insurance, the price
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could be you know, six hundred dollars for whatever it
is that you're doing. If you don't have insurance, the
price can be three hundred dollars. But if they find
out you have insurance, you're not allowed to pay the
three hundred dollars no insurance price.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
This is all about taking money from some people to
pay for other people who don't want to pay for
the stuff that they're getting. That is the whole thing.
And by the way, this is all it's not insurance.
It's not even insurance. You should not be paying for
you know, or rather when you go into the doctor
for your checkup and for these things, you shouldn't be
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filing acclaim.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You know. This is when people think about with their car.
When do you call your car insurance? If somebody t
bones you at an intersection and you've got real damage,
right or you know there's something that serious happened to
your car, you don't call them. If you know an
a corps larren scratches the rim, you don't call them.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
For gas.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
But our whole healthcare system is just that now to
you know, everywhere you go. I can't even get in Clay.
I could go in somewhere, you know, Oh, I think
I have a sinus infection. I have to fill out
fifteen minutes of paperwork about allline. Probably even though it's
all online now, you still have to fill out the
stupid paperwork over and over and over again. What's your insurance?
Do you have a secondary insure? Who's your spouse is?
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It's all garbage.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
It's infuriating, It's infuriating.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
And that's why I think Republicans have an opportunity here
because all Democrats have done is subsidize the most hated
industry in America and give them more money to an
already broken system. And I think that conversation is actually
going to become more paramount here because this is a major,
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major issue, and look, Democrats are going to try to
make it an issue in twenty twenty six. I think
trying to defend health insurance companies as doing a good
job and deserving more of our money is not something
that most Americans are going to nod along with. And
I just come back to time after time after time.
The reason healthcare is broken in this country is because
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nobody has any idea that builds on just what you
were saying, Buck, what anything is going to cost?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Hold on, No, you're not allowed to know. It's actually
worse than that. You're not allowed to know cost. It's
not like you're just walking around, you know, like, oh,
just you know, who cares about whatever? I could go
into the back office of a hospital and say, hey, guys,
what is the actual cost of this? They say, we'll
get back to you in three months with a big bill.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
By the way, look, I talked about this when my
wife was having bait with our babies. Right. It's one
of the few healthcare things where you can actually go
around and ask what something costs. I said, how much
is it going to cost to have a baby here?
I'd like to compare that cost with somewhere else? They said, well,
we don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
How can you.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Give me an opportunity to tour maternity wards and the
only thing you're not competing on your competing on Wi
Fi bamboo.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Flooring, waiting rooms. You can't tell me what the cost
is it was.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I can tell you it's everybody out here in Miami Beach. Uh,
in this area at least, it's all it's all turning
into concierge medicine. Yeah, people are just doctors are just
opting out of this system. And it's not because they're
being greedy. They just want to be able to practice
medicine without being paperwork. Uh, you know, adult bureaucrats all
day long, and so people are just paying. This is
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what's gonna increasingly happen. And you can have all these
Democrats saying I love the I love Obamacare. They're not
Obombacare plans. Correct, They're on gold plated, amazing plans. They
see any doctor they want, they don't pay anything. I mean,
if friends, if you want to want to see what
their version of healthcare looks like for all of us,
go see how it all was working out in the
Soviet Uni. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Sure it was all free.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
But well you know the government employees who never gave
a paycheck. Yeah, everybody in Congress, they kept getting paid.
We'll take we'll take your calls on this, my friends.
Here in a moment, we're.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Making progress, uh with the Trump administration with some of
the spending cup acts, but the debt is still huge
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Speaker 3 (32:53):
That we finally are going to have an into the
incredibly unsuccessful government shutdown that has been going on for
forty days. It appears that it will be over officially
on Thursday. The shutdown already underway, as eight different Democrat
senators have joined all of the Republican senators. We had
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to get to sixty in order for that to happen.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Now.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Unfortunately, the air travel disruption situation, I'm looking at it
right now on Fox News book there are three thousand
nearly flights that have been canceled today.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Over eleven thousand delays.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
So if you are trying to travel right now, this
is frankly a complete mess all over the country. As
I think a big part of why we finally got
this resolution was because Democrats have recognized one they're not
going to get anything accomplished, and two.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
We are now past the No.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Kings Day and election in Virginia. But a third part
of this is a lot of people were and have
become super frustrated overall with everything going on relating to
air traffic delays, and so that is where we are
positive news. In fact, I believe we have audio from
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Senator Angus King who went on MSNBC and said, hey, yeah,
by the way, it turns out that the decision to
not open the government to shut down made everything more
more powerful as it pertains to all things Trump. Can
we play that cut from earlier today on MSNBC.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Please.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
You have to go back to what the strategy was
at the beginning of the shutdown. There were two goals,
both of which I support. One was standing up to
Donald Trump. The other was getting some resolution on the
ACA premium tax credit issue. The problem was the shutdown
wasn't accomplishing either goals, and there was practically well it
was zero likelihood that it was going to In terms
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of standing up to Donald Trump, the shutdown actually gave
him more power. Exhibit A being what he's done with
Snap and Snap benefits across the country. Oh, by the way, Joe,
you're going to love this. Guess who's getting paid during
the shutdown. Not the park rangers or air traffic controllers,
the ice agents under special law under that big awful
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bill that they passed last summer. The ice agents are
being paid. Nobody else is. So standing up to Donald
Trump didn't work. It actually gave him more power.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah, so Angus King going on with MSNBC and saying, hey,
we've actually ended up in a situation where President Trump
has more power than he would otherwise. Also, by the way,
Trump is continuing, he is meeting with the new president
of Syria. Underrated aspect of foreign diplomacy that has not
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gotten a ton of attention was normalizing relations with Syria
helped to create more Mid East peace because everybody was
lining up against Iran and giving a nod towards the
new government in Syria helped with the relationships with other
Middle Eastern countries as it pertains to all of that
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stock market. Not surprisingly, buck up substantially as the government
shutdown comes down, and now the big battle has become
Democrat senators, everybody is pointing the finger at Chuck Schumer.
So question for you, where does Chuck Schumer go from here?
And let me give you the scenarios. He's got AOC
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really after him on the left flank, and that was
I think a huge part of the motivation for why
he decided to allow this shutdown to take place as well.
Now eight senators on the right are coming forward and
saying this is ridiculous. We're not getting anything. We have
to go back and uh and and open the government
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back up. We're getting too much blowback. We're not getting anything.
This is a negative overall for the party. Where does
this leave Chuck Schumer? Because we play you want me
to be a lot of the pressure.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Is he done? Like his career end?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
At this point, Chuck Schumer's chief comms guy, Okay, here
we go. Uh. This doesn't look good for Chuck right now,
here's what's gonna happen, though. He's going to go into
this next year gearing up for the mid terms, doing
a lot of fundraising, a lot of pressing of the palms.
What he's gonna say is, guys, I fought, I fought.
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You got it. You know, you can't have these upstarts
like AOC. They don't know the game so important that
we take control of at least the House in this
midterm election. And I I know, and I'm gonna fight
in the Senate and I'm Chuck Schumer. He's created the
narrative to allow him to go to the uh you know,
ten thousand dollars or plate dinners or whatever it is,
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in order to present him self as the resistance against Trump.
People will forget and this may sound cynical, but I
think it's quite obviously true. People will forget that this
was much ado about nothing, and he will turn it
into oh, I stood and fought and we got some
concessions out of Trump when we were in the minority.
Just wait till we actually have a majority in Congress.
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Give me money, Chuck Schumer. That's the whole thing that's
going to be the pitch.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
I think.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
So he's going to create a narrative out of this
that ignores the truth of what really happened here. The
best asset that he has sho hire me, by the way.
I feel like that's pretty good for Schumer spokesman.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Oh, not so much. I don't know. I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I think the best asset that Schumer has is that
AOC doesn't actually want to be a senator. That's my
she wants to be president. I don't think she sees
that much difference in being a House of Representative member
or a senator. There is, but I think her aspirations
are higher.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Her senate's an excellent steppingstone, especially for Democrats. That's how
they always see it. Remember, Democrats like to have senators run,
We like to have governors run.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Okay, So question then in that context, And I don't
know that anybody's even talked about this, Mam donnie. We
know he could be governor one day, he could be
senator one day.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
That's the apex of his power.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
You can argue, New York City mayor is a higher
level of office than senator or governor would be. Is
there a world where Mam Donnie decides to challenge Chuck Schumer.
If AOC is running for president, and we know that
Mam Donnie can't run for president because he was born
in Uganda, I'm just trying to play it out for Schumer.
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A lot of these results buck to me end with
Schumer not running for reelection next year. The problem with
that is what else does Chuck Schumer have going on
such that he would give up power at seventy five
or seventy six years old, which is young compared to
Nancy Pelosi who went all the way.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Up to eighty five.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
And again that's depending on who control, because if you're
in the minority, that's not necessarily very enjoyable. I'm told
from people who you know work day to day in
the Senate.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
When is uh? When is Schumer up? When is his
turn next year?
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Right? Next year?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
So he's up, so I mean by January or February
of next year, right, meaning like four months from now,
we'll start to find out whether anybody is actually going
to primary him or not. I'm not sure what the
filing deadline is in New York, but he's terrified AOC
is going to primary him. My thought is AOC doesn't
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actually want to be Senator, although maybe to your point,
she thinks, hey, I can be a senators.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Not the reelection next year. I thought he was up
in twenty six. No, no, no, no, no, no, okay,
he's up in twenty eight. Yeah, and yeah he's up
in he's up in twenty eight. So that's this is
But this is all right, now, maybe you do want
to hire me as Schumer spokesman. Clay he just goes
into the fundraising cycle for next year. No one's even
gonna by the time he's up, no one's even going
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to remember this challenge from his left flank. I always
thought that was a little overblown as an explanation for this.
I think that they realized the real problem is that
with Obama, they got to shore up. The boat is
taking on water with Obamacare in a big way, and
that causes big problems for them on the healthcare front.
And twenty in the midterms, healthcare was the quiet issue.
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Wasn't really that quiet, but health care was the issue
in twenty eighteen that delivered the Democrats a big win. Overwhelmingly.
It was healthcare that they said was what was, you know,
propelling them forward?
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Well, that's why I said in the last hour, I
think the issue they could have going forward is they
may well have created real obstacles for themselves on the
only issue that really they show up in a positive vein. Now,
I know people, the economy is just it's a negative
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frankly for everybody because there's just a lot of unhappy people.
Border crime, very positive Trump issues. I think the economy
by next year is going to be a Trump issue
if Democrats don't have health care. If a lot of
people start to have the conversation that we did last hour,
where they look around and say, wait a minute, the
reason why healthcare companies have increasingly more and more power
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is because the Democrats just gave them hundreds of billions
of dollars in handouts. I think a lot of people
might start to say, wait a minute, Democrats have totally
screwed this up, and Obamacare has made everything worse. And
I think, to your point, the idea with Obamacare, honestly,
it feels like it's designed to fail so that they
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can just to your point, say, hey, government's got to
take over everything otherwise everybody's going to die.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Which is that was always that was always the opposition
to Obamacare from the start was that the way it
was constructed was destined to fail, but that failure would
lead to a single payer system, which is Medicare for all,
which is what Bertie Sanders is always saying, which you
want to talk about out of control costs and blowed
in bureaucracy and waiting. I mean, you know, if the
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government is writing all the checks for everybody's health care
and you have something like this in the UK where
the government also controls the output of healthcare right National
Health Service, which means that not only are they paying
for it, but they are the deliverers of the product.
And the NHS has blown an enormous hole in the
UK economy for decades. The whole thing's a disaster. I
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thought this was interesting, though, Clay that of the eight
Senate Democrats who have voted to end the shutdown, none
of them are up for reelection next year. So the
thing that they have going for, the thing that they
all have in common is that they're not facing angry
AOC leftists next year because it's a it's a pretty
wide You got Dick Durbin out of Illinois, super Several.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Of those guys too are stepping down buck like Seth
Right Heen like they're they're just.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Waving on their way out.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
So these are the Democrats that it's safe for them
to stop the madness. Quartes Mastone have Well, you got
a purple state there, but she's not up next year,
you know, to Tim Kaine or Virginia, Angus King of Maine,
Jackie Rose in Nevada, Jean Shaheen New Hampshire, none of
them are up. I think that's very interesting.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
The most vulnerable incumbent in fact is John Ossoff, who
next year Georgians will be deciding, hey, are we going
to re elect this guy? There's a primary battle underway
to figure out who the Republican nominee is going to be.
He supported this and Georgia you talk about a state
that is truly up for grabs. All of the elections
in Georgia have been very close, notwithstanding the statewide when
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that Brian Kemp had that was so substantial in twenty
twenty two. But yeah, in twenty twenty six. Osoff is
up next year. He's probably the only sitting incumbent that
would be in true peril in terms of potentially getting
beaten in a normal election cycle where it doesn't drastically
favor one side or the other. And he voted to
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continue the shutdown, and he's been voting in favor of
men and women's sports, and so he's really out of
touch with the overall voters of Georgia. Now the question
will be what does the electorate look like in you know,
eleven months there. But it is interesting to me that
he bent the knee and stayed committed to the far
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left wing even in a very middle of.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
The road state.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Clay, you know what they say. There are a lot
of quarters of baseball left here. So it's a lot
of time, a lot of time between now and that
next election. We'll see what ends up happening. See Clay knows.
He didn't even feel the need to correct me. There
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shutdown is coming to an end, longest shutdown in our history,
and the Democrats are trying to say they fought the
good fight. Really, they threw a temper tantrum and they
made people anxious, frustrated, and made people suffer just because
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achieve their main end, but we'll discuss that a bit
more coming up. We've also got the very very important
news that Claire reminded me of that Kim Kardashian, despite trying,
did not pass the California bar exam. I believe she's
tried a few times at this point, but has not
yet passed it. So we're hoping, we're pulling for Kim
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to pass the bar exam. I think she isn't she
worth a billion dollars so this really is just like
a personal mountain that she is trying to climb.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
I we'll get into this, but yes, she is.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
She definitely does not need the money that might come
from practicing law in any way.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
So that's not obviously an important story, but it's one
of those stories that people are going to be talking about.
So I just thought i'd let you know she has
failed the bar exam three times already, but she's gonna
keep going. And you know what Clay a wise man
once said to me, Persistence is the key. Persistence is
the key, very very important.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
A lot of people are making fun of her, and
I'll just say this, I think we should encourage people
to try to do hard things, and it would be
very easy, to your point, buck, when you become a billionaire,
to just say, hey, I've got everything I could possibly want.
I'm not going to try to push myself any further.
And she decided she wanted to try to become a lawyer,
(48:38):
and she is attempting to do it. I would point
out who was it that failed the bar a ton
of times, JFK Junior, I think, if.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
I remember correctly, Yeah, yeah, well no one thought the
JFK Junior was going to be a rocket scientist, so
that's not surprising for me.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
But I mean he went straight to law school. I
think they led him into Columbia or Harvard or wherever
the heck they did.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Completely irrelevant. They let him in because of his last name. Yes,
he could be illiterate Kennedy, and they would have led
him into Harvard law school and he continued to trail.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
So anyway, I do think everybody's trying to poke fun
at her, but I give her credit for being willing
to try to do something super hard when she could
just chill and have an easy life.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
I think it's I think it's important to always try
to work on yourself and to be willing to embrace
the humility that must come with that. So I'm actually
with you. I'm far less. I'm not you know, Oh
my gosh, how could you fill the bar? Exam. Good
for Kim Kardashian for trying, and hopefully at some point
(49:36):
she'll pass. On the other side of the gratitude scale, yes,
on the other side of that scale, we have the
former First Lady Michelle Obama, who has a remarkable talent
for seeming just perpetually ungrateful and full of grievance, which
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for somebody who has who was the First Lady for
eight years, I don't even know how many magazine covers.
Uh has her pick of which billionaires three hundred million
dollar yacht she chooses to vacation with her daughter's on.
I don't know if you could find all in a
more privileged and elitist person on the planet, it would
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be very hard, right, because you know, yeah, there's like
like Elon Musk is worth a ton of money, but
Elon Musk is like sleeping on the floor of the
Tesla factory building. All this stuff big cost to his
personal life. Some people hate him, obviously, He's the allied
with Trump. Michelle Obama, everwhere should go. She is worshiped,
worshiped by elite society, and yet you when she talks
(50:46):
about things like, for example, how she needed to have
a celebrity style glam team when she was in the
White House, this is how she speaks of it. Play eight.
Speaker 8 (50:57):
I didn't really have that choices firstly, worst right, yeah,
every day every time I was up as we called it,
you know, I was up for the public, yes, and
the days were long, so as you mentioned, to save time,
you know, I know, having a glam team a trifecta.
It feels like a luxury, but it was a time's time,
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this necessity. There's absolutely no way that I would be
able to do my hair and make up and have
clothes ready that fit, you know, because where is the
woman that can live off the rack?
Speaker 2 (51:35):
I know a lot of women who live off the rack,
eight Clay, I know a lot.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
Actually, Michelle Obama might be the person who should give
the country more gratitude than anyone that has the least
gratitude of anyone in public eye that I can see.
And every time she speaks, I like her less and
I don't think I'm unique in that she has been hoddled,
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she's been protected, she has been told that she is
incredibly accomplished and a uniquely transcendent figure, such that she
decided that she needed to start her own podcast. I
actually feel sorry for Barack Obama for having to deal
with her, And let me explain why that is. I
(52:21):
went off. I might have gone off more on this
than almost anybody in the country when she wasn't willing
to show up for Jimmy Carter's funeral. To me, it
was such a personal slap in the face to every American.
Speaker 5 (52:34):
Look.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
I understand you don't want to always have to go
to public events, but when you run for president of
the United States, or when you are married to the
President of the United States, there are certain moments that
demand to me that you show up and show the
least semblance of respect for the country that you could.
(52:55):
Hillary Clinton was at the funeral for Jimmy Carter. The
Bushes were at the funeral for Jimmy Carter. Certainly Trump
and Milania were there. It doesn't take a lot to
be willing to give a few hours of your time
to get on a private jet and fly somewhere, get
(53:18):
off be respectful for a couple of hours. She didn't
show up for the inauguration of Trump Barack Obama. Did
I give him credit for that? She doesn't seem like
a person that would be fun to spend time with.
Buck and I just I look at this and instead
of saying, hey, boy, you know I'm from I think
(53:38):
the South side of Chicago. If I'm not mistaken, I
grew up and I got to be the first lady
of the United States, I married the president. What is
an incredible story that is that you can be a
kid from the south side of Chicago and you can
grow up to do this, right. I mean, you know
who's actually leaned into that, because I think he's also
(53:58):
from the South side of Shchaquaro the Pope.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
The American Pope Leo. He's talked.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
I've seen quite a lot about how amazing it is
that a kid who grew up on the South side
of Chicago could ascend to become the Pope. I just
every time Michelle Obama speaks, I think to myself, what
a be careful here, you might need to turn down
the radio.
Speaker 1 (54:22):
What a bitch? What an ungrateful bitch?
Speaker 3 (54:25):
Michelle Obama is unique among all of the first ladies
of different political parties. All she does is wine and
talk like, hey, well I have to have a glam
squad or I'm not even gonna travel with my uh
with my wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
People, Oh, I don't.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
I don't wear a lot of things off the rack.
I wear everything off the rack. I know a lot
of women that wear things off the rack. Now you
can come after me because I shouldn't, because you should say, oh,
you should have that better tailored. Oh why are your
pants drag? Why are your sleeves too long?
Speaker 1 (54:57):
Those are criticisms.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
The answer is because I just things off the rack,
and I'm not a diva, and I just I don't
get it.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (55:07):
Every time she speaks buck, I just think to myself, boy,
she had an opportunity. She reminds me of the US
women's soccer team. I think there's a lot of this.
I don't think it's just unique to her for left
winging people. Do you remember when Meghan Raupino they were
playing in the World Cup and she just chose that
opportunity to take shots at President Trump said, I'm not
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gonna go to the White House. I'm not gonna visit
and then she insulted him with explotives. And I'm thinking
to myself, you were on the national stage for young
women everywhere around the world who aspire to grow up
and be great soccer players like you.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
How about a sentilla.
Speaker 3 (55:45):
Of gratitude for the fact that you have this opportunity
and this.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
Left wing and I think it's.
Speaker 3 (55:53):
Primarily women, honestly, which is the foundation of the Democrat Party.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
This left wing.
Speaker 3 (56:00):
Hectoring, ungrateful, baseline bitchiness that is the Democrat Party.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Buck. I think it's why men are done with them.
Speaker 3 (56:09):
Every man out there is like, yeah, I've had to
deal with that in my life. It's like every single
Democrat woman has got her finger out and.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
She's lecturing you all day long.
Speaker 3 (56:21):
And I think a lot of women out there listening
to us right now are nodding along. It's like the
whole party is just the most annoying person at your
job who's lecturing you about something that she doesn't like
that really isn't anything wrong at all.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
Nothing has changed, by the way, in the apparent attitude
that Michelle Obama formerly Michelle Robinson has, you can easily
go find her Princeton thesis, which I read back in
the y you told me it was just atrocious administration.
It is atrocious. It is absolutely brutal reading in terms
of you're like, what is this? But it's Princeton educated
(56:57):
blacks and the black community is was her was her thesis.
Does anyone want to guess what it's about? The isolation
and the feelings of subtle racism you deal with as
a black student at Princeton. She wrote her thesis on this,
her entire like the peak, the pinnacle of her academic
life as an undergraduate was to write a one hundred
(57:19):
page whine about how hard it was to be black
at Princeton, which, by the way, this was in the
heyday of affirmative action. She probably got about three hundred
points worth of assistance on in terms of SAT comparison,
at least two hundred plus points to get into Princeton.
Speaker 3 (57:36):
So the reason she could whine about being black at
Princeton is because she was black at Princeton.
Speaker 2 (57:42):
And being black and applying to Princeton at that time
was a particular privilege in the admissions process. So yes,
that is the great irony of this. Michelle Obama got
into Princeton in large part because she was a black woman.
And then she wrote a thesis about her heart it
was to be a black woman at Princeton, and that
kind of sums up the attitude.
Speaker 3 (58:02):
I also think it sums up the legacy media in general,
the protect you see the I don't know that we
played this clip.
Speaker 1 (58:08):
I think it was last week. It was going viral.
Speaker 3 (58:10):
She was saying something like, oh, our family never got
the grace that other families got. And I saw that clip.
Maybe we can grab it before we finished the hour,
and I'm sorry, Buck. Do you remember, as I do,
the Bush daughters getting destroyed by national media for relatively
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minor teenage related infractions as if they were modern day
you know, felons of an enormous magnitude. They got treated
basically the same as Hunter. And by the way, how
about the Bidens. Now they did a lot, but Hunter
and all the other Biden kids got incredible negative media attention.
And Chelsea back in the day, I don't remember everybody
(58:56):
bending over backwards to.
Speaker 1 (58:57):
Treat Chelsea really well.
Speaker 3 (58:59):
And so you look at all the other kids, I
would say that the Obamas and their daughters got treated
more fairly than any children of the president have, regardless
of political party, in my whole life. And we know
we've had all these guys on the program. Do you
think the Trumps have been treated fairly like the kids?
(59:21):
I'm not talking about Trump himself. They would put them
in prison if they could, for sure, and they haven't
done anything wrong. Yes, all true.
Speaker 2 (59:30):
Well, the Democrats tried to be clear they would It's
not just they would desire to put Trump family members
in prison, they made moves to do so.
Speaker 1 (59:38):
Oh totally.
Speaker 3 (59:40):
Other people are gonna say, oh, well Hunter, Yeah, Hunter
committed about one hundred felonies on his laptop.
Speaker 1 (59:46):
If you just click and went and looked through any of.
Speaker 3 (59:49):
Hunter's laptop, he got insanely favorable treatment.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
I guess maybe it was all just Russian disinformation.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
Story.
Speaker 2 (59:59):
That's a joke, everybody, that's a joke. Calm down, Calm down.
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