November 10, 2025 • 33 mins
In this episode of A Numbers Game, Ryan breaks down the numbers behind New Jersey’s political shift—where Republicans are making surprising gains among Latino and working-class white voters. He’s joined by Nalin Haley, son of presidential candidate Nikki Haley, for an inside look at Gen Z’s growing economic frustration, distrust of legacy media, and changing views on immigration.
Together, they unpack the generational divide within the GOP, explore how social media is reshaping conservative identity, and debate whether young voters could redefine the future of the Republican Party.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to a Numbers Game with Ryan Grodski. Thank
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you never missed a single episode. Anyway, before I get
to today's episode, I need to tell my listener something
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if these people make six figures, I am going to
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this is nuts. I just I was very I was interested.
Then I was, you know, wanting to give up a
humanity that people were watching us. And then I was
making questions of my own career choices in life because
I can't imagine the fact that they make more than
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I do when I work seven days a week and
they have pillow fights for nine minutes. I'm not joking.
I'm It's going to be a dark moment in the
life of Ryan or Dusky. I will tell you that anyway. Okay,
so sorry to go into the pill If I think
I want to sit there and talk a little bit
more breakdown on the data from last week's elections about
the Democrats' victory. I wrote an article in the American
Conservative magazine and I got a little backlash or commentary
(02:11):
on social media. But I want to really push what
I think. I still think New Jersey as a swing
statement making. I know that seems like now, Ryan, we
said a blowout loss or a blow out win if
you're a Democrat. Here's why. And I'm going to put
a big emphasis on voter registration. Now, do you remember
what happened after twenty sixteen? After the twenty sixteen election.
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I remember all the women wearing pink hats and the
constant comments that the wall was closing in and Trump
need to the twenty fifth Amendment and he was losing
his mind, and he was impeached twice. That time in America,
there was a huge surge of support for Democrats, especially
in New Jersey. From twenty sixteen to twenty twenty, New
Jersey registered four hundred and fifty thousand new Democrats compared
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to only two hundred and thirty three thousand new Republicans. Right,
so big advantaged Democrat registration. Voter advantage grew from eight
hundred and sixty two thousand, one million, seventy nine thousand
in just four years. Trump being president was great for
Democrats during that time. In the four years that followed
twenty twenty, Democrats added only ten thousand, seven hundred and
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seventy eight new voters while Republicans added one hundred and
eighty four thousand. Now we're almost done with the year one,
the first full year of Trump's presidency in the second term,
and that energy that you would expect to go back
towards Democrats that was there the first term hasn't metastasize.
In this year, Republicans added forty four thousand new voters
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in New Jersey while Democrats lost nine thousand. Democrat voter
advantage in New Jersey today is smaller than it was
before Trump took the White House in twenty sixteen. Right,
So all that momentum that Democrats have built during that
first Trump term is completely on that huge advantage that
they were going to have to make the state even
bluer and blue and bluer. A big part of the
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wind from last Tuesday was because Democrats still have that
voter advantage. Right, They ginned up their base. Voter participation
was well over fifty percent among everybody, and that's a
ten point increase from twenty twenty one, but among Democrats
it's substantially higher. Right, Republicans did do a decent job
(04:26):
at turning out their own base, but Democrats not only
matched them, but they exceeded them. And remember, even though
it's trending in Republican direction, there's just still eight hundred
and fifth of voters to contend with. We're not there yet,
but I think we're getting there. And a lot has
been made over the conversation of Latinos, right, Latinos that
showed up for Trump. Trump swung Latinos in his direction
(04:47):
northern New Jersey, and then they swung back, meaning the
whole Trump Latino thing is over, and they're going to
be just basic Democrats again. I broke down the numbers
on this, and this is why I also disagree. I
don't think that this is actual accurate portrayal. What's really happening. First,
when you look at the governor's elections the last three
twenty seventeen, twenty twenty one, and twenty twenty five, Republicans
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have seen their level of support in Latina majority towns
increase at a faster rate than Democrats. Right, some Latino towns,
not all of them, but like Passaic County, New Jersey,
which is one of the bigger Latina majority towns, more
new Republicans people for the Republicans than new people voted
for Democrats. Republicans are increasing in the raw turnout, even
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when you consider that in twenty seventeen and in twenty
twenty five it was democratic landslides where the Democratic candidate
basically got the same percentage of the vote in Passaic,
in North Bergen and East New York, Republicans raw vote
is increasing at a faster rate than even Democrats. And
when you compare how Republicans perform in all those Hispanic
places in twenty seventeen compared to Democrats, when you say
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there's this, they're both won by fourteen points. Look at
how they did as a whole five to six points
better in Latino majority towns in northern New Jersey from
twenty seventeen to twenty twenty five. So the state numbers,
overall numbers are the same. Latino towns are moving to
the right. The media is running around sitting there and saying, oh,
(06:16):
this is all part of a backlash over Trump's immigration policy. Right,
it's immigration, immigration, immigration. Latinos are angry, they are abellas
being deported or whatever they're saying, and that might be
part of it. Right, I'm willing to concede that there's
probably a lot of Latinos who are angry over immigration.
But it's just one little piece of data. Because there's
I want to give. I want to look at Chittarelli's
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performance not only among Latinos but among working class whites
from twenty twenty one. Right, there are four towns I
looked at called South Amboy, South River Borough, Manville Burrow,
and Kyeport Borough. They are white working class towns. When
you compare how Chittarelli did come in twenty twenty five
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vers is how he did in twenty twenty one, Chitarelly
went down anywhere between fifteen points in the case of
Kyport Borough to thirty points in the case of Manville Borough. Right,
Chitarelly lost so much support among white working class voters. Now,
look at the Latino areas Perth and Boy, Western New York, Passaic, Gudenberg,
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North Bergen, prostect Park. They were mixed. Right in places
like Perth and Boy, Chitarelli lost about seven point support
in prospect Park. He lost about fourteen point support in Passaic,
in Guttenberg, in north Bergen, he gained from where he
was in twenty seventeen, he didn't lose. So it makes
youres that they're gonna say, why are why are Hispanics
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and white working class people, Why are they coming at
a crossroads right where they're voting more similarly, even though
obviously whites without a college or grey voting much more
to the right. But when one is swinging the other
one swinging as well, right in the same direction, what
is happening? I don't believe the primary motivating fact was immigration.
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I think it was the economy. And I have a
little bit more evidence to say. They're gonna say this
the Polster Unidose, which the Latino Polster. The media loves
to cite them, loves talking with them. They're not a
very accurate polster and they're never held accountable for that,
but I will I'm going to cite them because it's
all we have, but take it with a grain of salt.
But they're a democratic leaning polster. And they still said
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when they asked Latinos what is the top five issues
going into the selection? They said, affordability and the cost
of living, healthcare, jobs in the economy, housing, and then
gun violence. It was an immigration. Immigration did not make
the top five among any of these Latino voters being
polled in all these being important swing states. Right now
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is a weak economy, right working class people are feeling it.
They're maxing out their credit cards. It is tough. Prices
did not go down after Biden's inflation. Inflation went down,
but prices did it. People are still feeling feeling it,
you know, four years later, three years later, since COVID.
That's just a reality. That's just a function of how
it's how it's going. And they wanted Trump to have
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like a magic wand or a band ait and it couldn't. Right,
So now they're angry the Republicans. They're angered the trumpministration.
They'll be angry at the next Democrats, the next Republican whatever.
If this continues, something has to happen. But that anxiety
among working class people, both Latino and white, and the
overall increase in activist Democrats. People go to the No
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King's rally, who show up with those kinds of things
to go vote at a higher rate than the average
Republican is what punished Republicans because they were also punished Trump.
The fundamentals of New Jersey as I see it, as
I believe it says it's going to still be a
swing state. Though I really do believe that New voters
are picking the GOP over the Democrats. And it's completely organic.
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There's no huge, you know, Republican Party actively registering people.
This has been a trend on their own. They know
the Democratic Party isn't working for working class people, even
if they were angry in the moment they voted Republican.
Growth even in Latino neighborhoods is up from twenty twenty one,
and it's way up from twenty seventeen. We will see
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if Chimmean's change in twenty twenty six, but as of now,
the trend lines in New Jersey to me seem very
very straightforward. Now there's a lot of conversations happening online
about a generational divide, a generational splinter among Republicans. I
know it's that was a harsh transition. Enough about New Jersey.
I believe it's the swings day in the future. Let
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me bring up what I want to talk about with
the rest of this episode, which is this generational divide Online,
there's a lot of conversation that younger gen Z Republicans
are they're you know, they're tougher than their parents on
certain positions, and that they are especially more nationalists right.
They are less supportive unrestricted free trade, they are less
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supportive of immigration, they want more immigration restrictions. They are
just more like Donald Trump and the party that he built.
My guest in today's episode has been making a lot
of attention when it comes to, you know, breaking off
from I guess the political establishment of yesterdayear or the
political thought of his parents' generation. And that is Nalan Haley,
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the son of former South Carolina Governor Nicki Haley. He
is so interesting. He has got a while take on
many many things, and he will be up. Nalan Haley
became a public figure during his mom, Nicki Haley's run
for the White House, and he's been stepping out on
his own and getting a lot of attention because he's
quote unquote a radical. Naleen, thank you for being on
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this podcast. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Ryan.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
So Naylan, I want to ask you first of a
couple basic questions, would do you remember a time in
your life before, like your mom was a politician.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, I remember it pretty well.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I think things started to change was when she won
and I was in third grade.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But before that it was just a very simple life.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
My mom was an account at my dad was in
the military, and we lived the very typical suburban family life.
And then once she won, my life changed and was
never the same in a good way or a bad way.
And I mean, in some ways it's both. I like
to think of it as more optimistic than negative. I mean,
there's definitely some elements, such as my life being so public.
(12:28):
I would prefer it to be more private, But in
a lot of ways, I got to experience a lot
of cool things, meet a lot of cool people, see
a lot of the state, So I value a lot
of that as well.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I think people like to imagine for those who don't
have like a politician parent, like to imagine like they
come home at the dinner table and or like you'll
never believe what the budget was like, like you know.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Not at all, not at all at all, and it's
it's like we don't talk about politics at all. Like
it's it's very the reason why people think that is
because they only know Nicky Hayes. They don't know my mom,
and those two things, they're the same person. But to me,
it's mom. To everyone else's Sneaky Haley, So they can't
rationalize her being just a mom. And so whether it's
(13:12):
with my family or even my friends, like my friends
know nothing about politics, and that's not on accident, because
that's why they're my friends.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I don't want friends that know everything about politics. And
my friends aren't even know my life. No I know,
I mean I work in it. I don't know what
I do. What when did you know like your mom
was famed? The last question your mom just wanted to know,
like when did you realize like your mom was famous?
So I asked people this question a lot.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah, I think when she was running it was the
primary and started to pick up where she was doing. Well,
you started to see your signs everywhere, people started to
stop at the grocery store. I think that was when
I noticed that something was different. Yeah, was about probably
second third grade.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Well, I talked to my buddy Megan McCain ahead of
this interview because obviously her dad John McCain, and I
was just like what was it like, you know, talking
to her about her and she's like, my dad always
said to me, be yourself, Like, don't worry, I'm not
gonna make you believe what I believe. I imagine that your
mom was a lot of the same things.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, I mean again, we never really talked about politics,
so and they always encourage me to think for myself.
And that's the thing is like a lot of people
can't seem to understand. It's like, well, I can't believe
you have different views than your mom. And it's like,
do you have the same views as your mom? And
they'll say no. So I just tell them, why would
I be any different. I'm from a different generation. We
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have different problems, so therefore I have different solutions.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Well, I want to talk to your generation is you.
People pay a lot of attention to you, obviously because
of familiar reasons, but you have interesting takes, which is
why they stay paying attention to you. You know, I
think you talk a lot about your own life experiences,
that of friends of yours, struggling to find a job,
struggling to be able to get a house one day,
even for yourself. What about today? For gen z is
(14:55):
especially hard. That has changed a lot of their politics.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I definitely think it's a mixture of economic and cultural changes.
I think we've seen it in just such a short
period of time. The economy mainly is causing a lot
of frustration when people don't work, when people aren't getting paid,
they get frustrated, and they're right to be frustrated because
they're not doing anything wrong. It'd be one thing if
they were lazy, not getting their education, not willing to
(15:23):
put in the work. But gen Z in some ways
has a problem with work ethic. But mostly when they
want to work, they will, and they're good at it.
So when they have the opportunity to try and make
something of themselves and I'm not even getting a chance
to start, that's when they get angry, and they've every
right to be.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Does do you feel like your generation, Well, you and
your generation I guess is not a spokes but someone
dealing with it that they have like sort of animus
towards Baby boomers, like you feel like they screwed.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, I absolutely do. I absolutely do. Because they inherited everything.
They inherited something that was great and they turned it
into something that was terrible.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
For us. They were. I mean, you think about what
a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Of boomers had, a lot of them were able to
afford a home, afford two cars, and their kids to
school off of just one salary. Back then, the mom
didn't even work. They're able to have all those things,
and it was the golden age for them. Everything was affordable.
A lot of people a job. I'm not saying what's
like that for everyone, but by and large, it was
very simple, easy and it worked. And now we have
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things where people don't have jobs, crime is out of control,
things don't work, and so people were frustrated that something
that was inherited to that generation is now being turned
upside down because of those boomer policies.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
What would you say if somebody pushed back and said, well,
boomers had to a lot of them, depending how old
they are, they had to serve in Vietnam or be drafted.
That they had that they had less opportunity, less less
you know, technology and availability towards luxury items than you do.
That they're cheaper. Now, what would you say something like that.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I mean, I would say that it's good that they
served in wars.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I think that's great, but I mean it doesn't change
the fact that they have bad policies, and there are
a lot of the reasons why we have economic struggles
while we have too much immigration. A lot of the
problems that we see are boomers just not doing what
they're supposed to do. They have what they had, they
changed it, and our generation's feeling it now.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I wanted about immigration because you talk about that a lot.
It's something I've talked about a lot. It was definitely
a red pilling issue for me. What do you say
to people who sit there insane? I've seen people say
this to you on Twitter, so's why I'm asking. But
people who said there and said to you, nail In,
your grandparents are Indian immigrants, How could you be against immigration?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, that's stupid.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
It's stupid because one, it's not nineteen sixty nine. Everyone
can look around and see that it's a very different country,
that we have a very different set of circumstances. It
is rational to then adapt and change those policies. It's
also stupid because I'm not loyal to, you know, my grandparents'
way of thinking or what they did, just like you aren't.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Just like they aren't.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
If a lot of us believe in the same things
our grandparents did, then we would have a different country.
But no one believes in what their grandparents do or
think very few do, So why would I then accept
that when they had a different upbringing, a different way
of life than I do.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, So what you're saying is you can respect to
your grandparents for our people, but we can't have a
first century econ of the twentieth century immigration system, because
that's what I immigration was created. It was created over
a half a century ago. It's not for a high tech,
high skill population, right.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
It's not sustainable and it's irresponsible to have it right now,
even the legal immigration. And it's because we have an
economy that's fragile. We have AI taking a lot of jobs,
and we have companies not hiring. So why would we
import more workers when we already have that struggle?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
And I think that what people people are realizing it now,
I feel like more than ever, but they didn't before
the New York City election, are like, oh, some people
we import really do support socialism when we are importing
the third world? And I mean I would go back
to twenty sixteenth primary where Ted Kruz literally said good immigration,
legal immigration, good, illegal immigration bad.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
He was the me, right.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
And it's more so like they're not they're just oh,
they're supporting socialism and leftist policies. They're not even identifying
as American a lot of them. And I think we
started to see around the Obama years was when we
started to see immigrants come in and they said, you
don't need to change anything. You're good the way you are.
You don't have to assimilate, you don't have to do
this or that. But what it does is it loses
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our very identity, is what we are as America. If
the people coming in don't see themselves as American, we're
essentially just a globalist entity, not even a country, not
with a specific identity, a culture or anything, a language, religion.
We're just a globalist entity. And that's not what I
want to be and I never wanted to become that. Yes,
and that's why I want to stop immigration, both illegal
(19:59):
and it's irresponsible.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, talk to me about the this isthing. I kind
of don't even understand. I'm like fifteen years older than you. Like,
what is it with women in gen Z? Why are
they so far left?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I think I would say I would be hesitant to
say that they're like that.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I know a majority are, but I wouldn't say it's
as much as people think. I think a lot of
it has to do with the Internet. The Internet shapes
the way a lot of gen z thinks. And if
you have a for you page, you're on TikTok or Instagram,
all you have to do is put your gender in there.
If you put no other information and just your gender,
(20:43):
the algorithm will then feed you complete opposite stuff. And
this is what a lot of these companies do, what
a lot of foreign governments do, is they want to
create a divide And so I have been saying for
years the future of divide and division in America likely
isn't going to be race, or income or a lot
of stuff. It's going to be gender, which is specifically
(21:03):
a problem because we need each other. We need women
and women need men. It's just the truth.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, as someone who's a millennial, I feel like one
of the biggest lies that was told to women in
my generation, and I have a lot of friends in
their late thirties right now, was like, you have all
the time in the world to have kids, all the
time in the world to start a family, and I
know women in my life thirties who are like scrambling
to find a husband. They are like, this is my
last chance. I need to get a baby immediately, and
it's it's hard to sit there and see these people
(21:33):
like this. So I really hope that women in your
generation don't kind of fall for the same thing. I mean,
there is biologies real, and time is real, and there's
no other way about it. What about young men in
your generation, are they because there's like there seems to
be you know, the Harry Simpsons of the world, and
then there's not real.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
By the way, he's not a real person. Views aren't
real completely paid, not.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Really, Yeah, because he doesn't have consulting fees and stuff
like that.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Right yeah, yeah, I mean it's all, well, what was
your political evolution?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Was there a book or experience do you have that
maybe you like sit there and say, like, I believe
in these things this way.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I would say, I feel like I was very typical
Maga Republican for a lot of high school, but I
would say it wasn't until late junior year where I
feel like I started to think outside of that, particularly
with immigration, particularly with maybe some of our relations with
other governments and foreign policy being you know, not so interventionist.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I think I would say that was late junior year
of high school.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Or was it like YouTube videos or was it No.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
It wasn't anything that happened. I think I just started
to research it more. I started to think more. I
started to not just accept what I was given on
the internet and by you know, con inc you know,
I wanted to think for myself.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Okay, if you were, if you were, if someone a
parent was to say, hey, now when I have a
fifteen year old, what should I point them to that
made you like this? What would it be?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I don't know where they should go because I just
hate all media, I really do. The media is they're
the worst people in the world, the biggest enemy to
the American people. It's not Iran, it's not China, it's
not Russia, it's not even the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
It's the media.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
They're the worst. They're vultures, they're blood sucking leeches. All
they do is just cause division and chaos in America.
They do that because that's how they get money in ratings.
They have no loyalty to a country, to an ideology
to a people only their money in the ratings, which
come from chaos and a vision. They don't care about
telling the truth. They want to make the story, not
(23:32):
tell it. So I don't know where to go because
I hate all of them.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Okay, well it's not as helpful as I thought it
would be. The last question.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Now, you know the media sucks and everyone knows that.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Well, I've worked in the media. I worked with Bill
Chrispwall with the Washington Examiner. That was in twenty sixteen.
That was a rough experience. Last question, if you were
to get a vice president of answered President Trump and
a room and say like, these are the three things
or the two things that you need to focus on
for my generations heading to the mid terms? In there
like this is what we need. What would it be
that you guys need.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I would say, in terms of what they need to do,
I would say in H one B visa's stop legal immigration,
try to curb AI and technology from taking a lot
of jobs, which is not just my generation, that's everyone.
And I would say not be so interventionist in a
lot of foreign governments. But I think Trump does a
good job because he's very pragmatic on foreign policy. Yeah,
(24:26):
that's more of an advice for Advance to more adopt
Trump's foreign policy. But I would say those are some
big things because the main issue is jobs, affordability and safety.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, and immigration. Yeah, and you mentioned safety. I want
to put this idea in your head. Think of like
all the homes in like really bad crimeer in neighborhoods
that no one wants to live in if they were
available because the crime wasn't there, Housing prices would be
solved a lot, Neil, And where can people go to
read more about what you could put out? Because you
put out the fiery, spiciest tweets on the Internet, And like,
(25:00):
I spend so much time like oh god, what did
Nayaleen say about this or that? And I know a
lot of times I laugh out loud, but like I'm
always curious.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
It's not meant to be funny. It's not meant to
get attention. These are literally I don't even think when
I do it. It's just me being genuine and it's
just I react to what I see.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
But well, some people are genuinely funny. I mean they
don't have to. That's what makes people like interesting yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I would say they could find me on X. It's
just nailing underscore Haley.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
And then if you're local or you're in South Carolina
and you want to get involved, I would say I'm
starting a Young Republicans group for York, Lancaster, and Chester counties.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
It's going to be South Carolina, right, it's South Carolina.
It's just south of Charlotte and.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
That reason in northern South Carolina. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
And so we're focused on advocating for gen Z causes.
We want a campaign and door knock and get on
the ground for conservative candidates, and we want to increase turnout.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Young Republicans are notorious for not doing anything, so I
want to change that.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I want to make it an actual, active, grassroots local movie.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Do you still door knock?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I mean I try to if it's someone that I
that I really want to support you. I was in
Iowa and I doorknocked the negative fifty degrees.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I'll never do that again.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
But did she do you ever door knock and someone
else the door? Like, oh my god, it's nailing, Like that's.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Crazy now and I prefer.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
It that way. Okay, cool, Well, thank you everyoning this
podcast I appreciate so much.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Thank you, Ryan.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Now it's time for Asking Me Anything. If you want
to be part of the Ask Me Anything segment, email
me Ryan at Numbers Game podcast dot com. That's Ryan
at Numbers Game podcast dot com. Plural numbers. I read
them all, I get to them. I have a big stack.
I'm gonna have to do a whole ask Me Anything
day one day. But I love getting these questions and
I answer them all either on the air or on
(26:49):
private email emailing you back. So this one comes from Frank.
He writes, you mentioned that you listen to an unhinged
You listen to unhinged liberal podcasts. Can you recommend any
particularly fun ones or better, Yeah, particularly funny individual episodes
or clips. I remember long ago you recommend a listening
to a podcast episode from Mary Trump and it was fantastic. Yes, Frank,
(27:10):
thank you for listening. What I'm saying that was the
Mary L. Trump Election Day podcast. It was so deranged.
It was so fun because it's like seven hours long,
as you're kind of skip until like results are coming out.
But in the beginning they were like we're kinna sweep
you know, Florida and Texas and it's all going blue.
And then like the night goes on, they go you know,
(27:31):
they're like they're like, we don't need it, we don't
need the state, we don't need that state. We're still good.
The blue walls still holding, the blue wall still holding.
And then it just goes the whole map goes red
and they just start losing their minds. They're like crying
on air and they're like, at least we still have
the house, Like no, we don't have the house. And like,
(27:53):
I mean, one one literally balls crying, like screamed out,
like it was. It was like a guttural cry. It
was so good. It was so so I mean, I
gonna watch that tonight instead of a movie. Just sit
there and put that on. Election nights are great resources
for unhinged liberals. Destiny had an unhinged, unhinged episode on
his YouTube where he was like, you know, hopeful and optimistic.
(28:17):
I think the king of it though, is Alan Lichtman.
I don't know if you know who he is. He's
the guy who had like the thirteen keys or the
sixteen keys. This man's an utter freakin' moron. This man
is dumber than a sack of bricks, and he really
loves to tell him that he's a genius, and I
could not. I I'm not joking to you if he was,
(28:37):
you know, if he had, I'm not gonna say what
we want to say. I want to say something very crude.
But if he had, you know, never mind, I'm not
gonna say I'm not I'm not something that my father
always say. And my father has a mouth like a
truck driver, and I keep the podcast clean. He is
not a bright man, is my point. His election a
podcast about why his thirteen Keys were so accurate and
(28:58):
so smart. And you can't agree from the thirteen Keys.
Oh it's so good because he's delusional. Any other ones
that are really really good, I have to sit there
and go back and watch what I'm watching. I watch
a bunch of Rosie. It's always the women too, like
middle aged women who are like completely obsessed with politics.
Are the ones who are on the left. Who are
the ones who are all like completely out there. I
(29:20):
watch every Rosi o'donnald interview. I can because like they're
not all gems. But when I grew up watching her show,
so I kind of like her from as a kid,
like enjoying her show. But two because when she is
on Hinge, when she goes for a comment about Trump
that is completely not true, like that Elon stole the election.
It is just heaven, like it is heaven. So it's
(29:41):
not a podcast because she doesn't say it all the time,
but when she does, oh it's gold. And then this
is not a podcast. But if you want to like
laugh sometimes, you know on MSNBC and CNN they like
to show themselves very serious. They're very, very intelligent. They read.
It's the sound of a newspaper flipping over. There's so smart.
Morning has seven hundred newspapers everywhere and none of them
(30:02):
are opened, but he's got them constantly. They are the
great props Rachel Maddow. And she did this a couple
of times. An Colter always tells me, like, Rachel Mattow
is the biggest conspiracy theorist on television. She's bigger than
Alex Jones, and she very much is a wild conspiracy theorist.
In twenty nineteen, she said on air, because I remember
watching this and I couldn't believe she said this. In
(30:24):
twenty nineteen, she said that Russia was planning to hack
America's energy grid to freeze the entire state of North
Dakota to death. Yes, the whole state of North Dakota
was going to die in twenty nineteen, according to Rachel Maddow.
And I remember hearing it go. Did she just say,
(30:44):
is anyone is this a gag? She was completely serious,
and she said at another time too, she repeated her conversation,
said you know, they're going to hack the power grid
and freeze everyone in North Dakota to death. And I
still can't get over that. And she's never been fired
or called out for like no comment ever. I think
she was given a raise. But yeah, those kinds of things,
(31:04):
when liberals will say something that's utterly nutty, I find fasting.
There's that one woman who's going very popular on the blogs.
She's got a lot of botox, she came with her
face very well. I don't even know her name. She's
like anger and screaming all the time. I don't enjoy
her because I find her like to be extremely annoying.
Kar Swishers the same way, like Karen can have moments
(31:25):
where I'm like, well that Carra has a show with
her with like a liberal guy who's a teacher at
Scott Galloway's its prosiony you and like sometimes when it's attack,
that's something very interesting to sit there and say, or
about the markets. They lapsing, very very smart. They'll take
from me and then when they talk about politics they'll
say something completely delusional. And their post and pre election
(31:47):
was fantastic, fantastic because they have no shame in being
wrong all the time. Uh, and they are very proud
of it. They're very proud of their opinions. Even their
opinions are you know, jaw droppingly incorrect. Scott Galloway was
on a school board. He said this. He was on
(32:07):
the school board and he voted to shut the school
board down. He caused irreparable damage to young men and
young women's lives by shutting it on a school He
has no shame in it whatsoever. And he said, you
guys should all just move on. No, I love watching
them suffer, like I really do, and and embarrass themselves.
I really really do, because while you know there's no
(32:28):
harm in them being wrong on a podcast, he has
actually harmed people in his lives. Not great when it
comes to being accountable anyway. That's a long rane those
are some good episodes. I like to watch them. Kathy
Griffin also has like delusional things that she says a
lot of her on her podcasts on YouTube. She actually
one last thing and I'm going to close the show.
(32:50):
She actually was the first person I've heard this rumor
in DC circles. I never believed it, so I never
repeated it. But there was always a rumor in DC
circles that Elon Musk was having an affair with Stephen Willer,
Miller's wife. Once again, I don't believe it. I never
believed it was just a rumor that I constantly heard.
These rumors were circulating around constant, but other things, and
you have to parse what seems like it's nonsense and
(33:12):
what seems like it doesn't. She was the first person
I ever heard who said this out loud on a
podcast and was like, oh, yeah, you know this is
this is how uh this is what's going on? I
was like, WHOA, One, how did she hear that kind
of gossip? And two it's absolutely alive she's saying it.
You know, what's LII because she's never you know, she's
also another crazy one like Rosie who's never accurate. But
(33:33):
makes me laugh sometimes. Anyway, thank you for listening to podcast.
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to today's episode, I need to tell my listener something
because you guys who listen this podcast a lot know
that I am not a sports guy. I don't watch
sports very often. So last night I went to a
bar just to have some food and a drink, and
you know, I kind of christal out the weekend and
(00:44):
a channel called ESPN News was on. Now I thought
that was just ESPN, So I'm looking around. I have
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the crazy easiest thing was was they hit Sponsors people
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was a prize. If you're in the championship, it's a
game at David Buster's. Then I'm finishing dinner. I look
up again. They have Championship Men's Pillow Fight League. I
need to make a new career for myself. I made
all the wrong choices in my life. If you could
make money doing pillow fighting against other men for three minutes,
(01:29):
if these people make six figures, I am going to
scream into the you know, into a bag somewhere because
this is nuts. I just I was very I was interested.
Then I was, you know, wanting to give up a
humanity that people were watching us. And then I was
making questions of my own career choices in life because
I can't imagine the fact that they make more than
(01:50):
I do when I work seven days a week and
they have pillow fights for nine minutes. I'm not joking.
I'm It's going to be a dark moment in the
life of Ryan or Dusky. I will tell you that anyway. Okay,
so sorry to go into the pill If I think
I want to sit there and talk a little bit
more breakdown on the data from last week's elections about
the Democrats' victory. I wrote an article in the American
Conservative magazine and I got a little backlash or commentary
(02:11):
on social media. But I want to really push what
I think. I still think New Jersey as a swing
statement making. I know that seems like now, Ryan, we
said a blowout loss or a blow out win if
you're a Democrat. Here's why. And I'm going to put
a big emphasis on voter registration. Now, do you remember
what happened after twenty sixteen? After the twenty sixteen election.
(02:34):
I remember all the women wearing pink hats and the
constant comments that the wall was closing in and Trump
need to the twenty fifth Amendment and he was losing
his mind, and he was impeached twice. That time in America,
there was a huge surge of support for Democrats, especially
in New Jersey. From twenty sixteen to twenty twenty, New
Jersey registered four hundred and fifty thousand new Democrats compared
(02:57):
to only two hundred and thirty three thousand new Republicans. Right,
so big advantaged Democrat registration. Voter advantage grew from eight
hundred and sixty two thousand, one million, seventy nine thousand
in just four years. Trump being president was great for
Democrats during that time. In the four years that followed
twenty twenty, Democrats added only ten thousand, seven hundred and
(03:20):
seventy eight new voters while Republicans added one hundred and
eighty four thousand. Now we're almost done with the year one,
the first full year of Trump's presidency in the second term,
and that energy that you would expect to go back
towards Democrats that was there the first term hasn't metastasize.
In this year, Republicans added forty four thousand new voters
(03:43):
in New Jersey while Democrats lost nine thousand. Democrat voter
advantage in New Jersey today is smaller than it was
before Trump took the White House in twenty sixteen. Right,
So all that momentum that Democrats have built during that
first Trump term is completely on that huge advantage that
they were going to have to make the state even
bluer and blue and bluer. A big part of the
(04:06):
wind from last Tuesday was because Democrats still have that
voter advantage. Right, They ginned up their base. Voter participation
was well over fifty percent among everybody, and that's a
ten point increase from twenty twenty one, but among Democrats
it's substantially higher. Right, Republicans did do a decent job
(04:26):
at turning out their own base, but Democrats not only
matched them, but they exceeded them. And remember, even though
it's trending in Republican direction, there's just still eight hundred
and fifth of voters to contend with. We're not there yet,
but I think we're getting there. And a lot has
been made over the conversation of Latinos, right, Latinos that
showed up for Trump. Trump swung Latinos in his direction
(04:47):
northern New Jersey, and then they swung back, meaning the
whole Trump Latino thing is over, and they're going to
be just basic Democrats again. I broke down the numbers
on this, and this is why I also disagree. I
don't think that this is actual accurate portrayal. What's really happening. First,
when you look at the governor's elections the last three
twenty seventeen, twenty twenty one, and twenty twenty five, Republicans
(05:08):
have seen their level of support in Latina majority towns
increase at a faster rate than Democrats. Right, some Latino towns,
not all of them, but like Passaic County, New Jersey,
which is one of the bigger Latina majority towns, more
new Republicans people for the Republicans than new people voted
for Democrats. Republicans are increasing in the raw turnout, even
(05:31):
when you consider that in twenty seventeen and in twenty
twenty five it was democratic landslides where the Democratic candidate
basically got the same percentage of the vote in Passaic,
in North Bergen and East New York, Republicans raw vote
is increasing at a faster rate than even Democrats. And
when you compare how Republicans perform in all those Hispanic
places in twenty seventeen compared to Democrats, when you say
(05:54):
there's this, they're both won by fourteen points. Look at
how they did as a whole five to six points
better in Latino majority towns in northern New Jersey from
twenty seventeen to twenty twenty five. So the state numbers,
overall numbers are the same. Latino towns are moving to
the right. The media is running around sitting there and saying, oh,
(06:16):
this is all part of a backlash over Trump's immigration policy. Right,
it's immigration, immigration, immigration. Latinos are angry, they are abellas
being deported or whatever they're saying, and that might be
part of it. Right, I'm willing to concede that there's
probably a lot of Latinos who are angry over immigration.
But it's just one little piece of data. Because there's
I want to give. I want to look at Chittarelli's
(06:39):
performance not only among Latinos but among working class whites
from twenty twenty one. Right, there are four towns I
looked at called South Amboy, South River Borough, Manville Burrow,
and Kyeport Borough. They are white working class towns. When
you compare how Chittarelli did come in twenty twenty five
(06:59):
vers is how he did in twenty twenty one, Chitarelly
went down anywhere between fifteen points in the case of
Kyport Borough to thirty points in the case of Manville Borough. Right,
Chitarelly lost so much support among white working class voters. Now,
look at the Latino areas Perth and Boy, Western New York, Passaic, Gudenberg,
(07:22):
North Bergen, prostect Park. They were mixed. Right in places
like Perth and Boy, Chitarelli lost about seven point support
in prospect Park. He lost about fourteen point support in Passaic,
in Guttenberg, in north Bergen, he gained from where he
was in twenty seventeen, he didn't lose. So it makes
youres that they're gonna say, why are why are Hispanics
(07:44):
and white working class people, Why are they coming at
a crossroads right where they're voting more similarly, even though
obviously whites without a college or grey voting much more
to the right. But when one is swinging the other
one swinging as well, right in the same direction, what
is happening? I don't believe the primary motivating fact was immigration.
(08:04):
I think it was the economy. And I have a
little bit more evidence to say. They're gonna say this
the Polster Unidose, which the Latino Polster. The media loves
to cite them, loves talking with them. They're not a
very accurate polster and they're never held accountable for that,
but I will I'm going to cite them because it's
all we have, but take it with a grain of salt.
But they're a democratic leaning polster. And they still said
(08:26):
when they asked Latinos what is the top five issues
going into the selection? They said, affordability and the cost
of living, healthcare, jobs in the economy, housing, and then
gun violence. It was an immigration. Immigration did not make
the top five among any of these Latino voters being
polled in all these being important swing states. Right now
(08:49):
is a weak economy, right working class people are feeling it.
They're maxing out their credit cards. It is tough. Prices
did not go down after Biden's inflation. Inflation went down,
but prices did it. People are still feeling feeling it,
you know, four years later, three years later, since COVID.
That's just a reality. That's just a function of how
it's how it's going. And they wanted Trump to have
(09:11):
like a magic wand or a band ait and it couldn't. Right,
So now they're angry the Republicans. They're angered the trumpministration.
They'll be angry at the next Democrats, the next Republican whatever.
If this continues, something has to happen. But that anxiety
among working class people, both Latino and white, and the
overall increase in activist Democrats. People go to the No
(09:31):
King's rally, who show up with those kinds of things
to go vote at a higher rate than the average
Republican is what punished Republicans because they were also punished Trump.
The fundamentals of New Jersey as I see it, as
I believe it says it's going to still be a
swing state. Though I really do believe that New voters
are picking the GOP over the Democrats. And it's completely organic.
(09:53):
There's no huge, you know, Republican Party actively registering people.
This has been a trend on their own. They know
the Democratic Party isn't working for working class people, even
if they were angry in the moment they voted Republican.
Growth even in Latino neighborhoods is up from twenty twenty one,
and it's way up from twenty seventeen. We will see
(10:15):
if Chimmean's change in twenty twenty six, but as of now,
the trend lines in New Jersey to me seem very
very straightforward. Now there's a lot of conversations happening online
about a generational divide, a generational splinter among Republicans. I
know it's that was a harsh transition. Enough about New Jersey.
I believe it's the swings day in the future. Let
(10:36):
me bring up what I want to talk about with
the rest of this episode, which is this generational divide Online,
there's a lot of conversation that younger gen Z Republicans
are they're you know, they're tougher than their parents on
certain positions, and that they are especially more nationalists right.
They are less supportive unrestricted free trade, they are less
(10:58):
supportive of immigration, they want more immigration restrictions. They are
just more like Donald Trump and the party that he built.
My guest in today's episode has been making a lot
of attention when it comes to, you know, breaking off
from I guess the political establishment of yesterdayear or the
political thought of his parents' generation. And that is Nalan Haley,
(11:19):
the son of former South Carolina Governor Nicki Haley. He
is so interesting. He has got a while take on
many many things, and he will be up. Nalan Haley
became a public figure during his mom, Nicki Haley's run
for the White House, and he's been stepping out on
his own and getting a lot of attention because he's
quote unquote a radical. Naleen, thank you for being on
(11:42):
this podcast. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Ryan.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
So Naylan, I want to ask you first of a
couple basic questions, would do you remember a time in
your life before, like your mom was a politician.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, I remember it pretty well.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I think things started to change was when she won
and I was in third grade.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But before that it was just a very simple life.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
My mom was an account at my dad was in
the military, and we lived the very typical suburban family life.
And then once she won, my life changed and was
never the same in a good way or a bad way.
And I mean, in some ways it's both. I like
to think of it as more optimistic than negative. I mean,
there's definitely some elements, such as my life being so public.
(12:28):
I would prefer it to be more private, But in
a lot of ways, I got to experience a lot
of cool things, meet a lot of cool people, see
a lot of the state, So I value a lot
of that as well.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I think people like to imagine for those who don't
have like a politician parent, like to imagine like they
come home at the dinner table and or like you'll
never believe what the budget was like, like you know.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Not at all, not at all at all, and it's
it's like we don't talk about politics at all. Like
it's it's very the reason why people think that is
because they only know Nicky Hayes. They don't know my mom,
and those two things, they're the same person. But to me,
it's mom. To everyone else's Sneaky Haley, So they can't
rationalize her being just a mom. And so whether it's
(13:12):
with my family or even my friends, like my friends
know nothing about politics, and that's not on accident, because
that's why they're my friends.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I don't want friends that know everything about politics. And
my friends aren't even know my life. No I know,
I mean I work in it. I don't know what
I do. What when did you know like your mom
was famed? The last question your mom just wanted to know,
like when did you realize like your mom was famous?
So I asked people this question a lot.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah, I think when she was running it was the
primary and started to pick up where she was doing. Well,
you started to see your signs everywhere, people started to
stop at the grocery store. I think that was when
I noticed that something was different. Yeah, was about probably
second third grade.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Well, I talked to my buddy Megan McCain ahead of
this interview because obviously her dad John McCain, and I
was just like what was it like, you know, talking
to her about her and she's like, my dad always
said to me, be yourself, Like, don't worry, I'm not
gonna make you believe what I believe. I imagine that your
mom was a lot of the same things.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, I mean again, we never really talked about politics,
so and they always encourage me to think for myself.
And that's the thing is like a lot of people
can't seem to understand. It's like, well, I can't believe
you have different views than your mom. And it's like,
do you have the same views as your mom? And
they'll say no. So I just tell them, why would
I be any different. I'm from a different generation. We
(14:30):
have different problems, so therefore I have different solutions.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Well, I want to talk to your generation is you.
People pay a lot of attention to you, obviously because
of familiar reasons, but you have interesting takes, which is
why they stay paying attention to you. You know, I
think you talk a lot about your own life experiences,
that of friends of yours, struggling to find a job,
struggling to be able to get a house one day,
even for yourself. What about today? For gen z is
(14:55):
especially hard. That has changed a lot of their politics.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I definitely think it's a mixture of economic and cultural changes.
I think we've seen it in just such a short
period of time. The economy mainly is causing a lot
of frustration when people don't work, when people aren't getting paid,
they get frustrated, and they're right to be frustrated because
they're not doing anything wrong. It'd be one thing if
they were lazy, not getting their education, not willing to
(15:23):
put in the work. But gen Z in some ways
has a problem with work ethic. But mostly when they
want to work, they will, and they're good at it.
So when they have the opportunity to try and make
something of themselves and I'm not even getting a chance
to start, that's when they get angry, and they've every
right to be.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Does do you feel like your generation, Well, you and
your generation I guess is not a spokes but someone
dealing with it that they have like sort of animus
towards Baby boomers, like you feel like they screwed.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, I absolutely do. I absolutely do. Because they inherited everything.
They inherited something that was great and they turned it
into something that was terrible.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
For us. They were. I mean, you think about what
a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Of boomers had, a lot of them were able to
afford a home, afford two cars, and their kids to
school off of just one salary. Back then, the mom
didn't even work. They're able to have all those things,
and it was the golden age for them. Everything was affordable.
A lot of people a job. I'm not saying what's
like that for everyone, but by and large, it was
very simple, easy and it worked. And now we have
(16:27):
things where people don't have jobs, crime is out of control,
things don't work, and so people were frustrated that something
that was inherited to that generation is now being turned
upside down because of those boomer policies.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
What would you say if somebody pushed back and said, well,
boomers had to a lot of them, depending how old
they are, they had to serve in Vietnam or be drafted.
That they had that they had less opportunity, less less
you know, technology and availability towards luxury items than you do.
That they're cheaper. Now, what would you say something like that.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I mean, I would say that it's good that they
served in wars.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I think that's great, but I mean it doesn't change
the fact that they have bad policies, and there are
a lot of the reasons why we have economic struggles
while we have too much immigration. A lot of the
problems that we see are boomers just not doing what
they're supposed to do. They have what they had, they
changed it, and our generation's feeling it now.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I wanted about immigration because you talk about that a lot.
It's something I've talked about a lot. It was definitely
a red pilling issue for me. What do you say
to people who sit there insane? I've seen people say
this to you on Twitter, so's why I'm asking. But
people who said there and said to you, nail In,
your grandparents are Indian immigrants, How could you be against immigration?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, that's stupid.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
It's stupid because one, it's not nineteen sixty nine. Everyone
can look around and see that it's a very different country,
that we have a very different set of circumstances. It
is rational to then adapt and change those policies. It's
also stupid because I'm not loyal to, you know, my grandparents'
way of thinking or what they did, just like you aren't.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Just like they aren't.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
If a lot of us believe in the same things
our grandparents did, then we would have a different country.
But no one believes in what their grandparents do or
think very few do, So why would I then accept
that when they had a different upbringing, a different way
of life than I do.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, So what you're saying is you can respect to
your grandparents for our people, but we can't have a
first century econ of the twentieth century immigration system, because
that's what I immigration was created. It was created over
a half a century ago. It's not for a high tech,
high skill population, right.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
It's not sustainable and it's irresponsible to have it right now,
even the legal immigration. And it's because we have an
economy that's fragile. We have AI taking a lot of jobs,
and we have companies not hiring. So why would we
import more workers when we already have that struggle?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
And I think that what people people are realizing it now,
I feel like more than ever, but they didn't before
the New York City election, are like, oh, some people
we import really do support socialism when we are importing
the third world? And I mean I would go back
to twenty sixteenth primary where Ted Kruz literally said good immigration,
legal immigration, good, illegal immigration bad.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
He was the me, right.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
And it's more so like they're not they're just oh,
they're supporting socialism and leftist policies. They're not even identifying
as American a lot of them. And I think we
started to see around the Obama years was when we
started to see immigrants come in and they said, you
don't need to change anything. You're good the way you are.
You don't have to assimilate, you don't have to do
this or that. But what it does is it loses
(19:38):
our very identity, is what we are as America. If
the people coming in don't see themselves as American, we're
essentially just a globalist entity, not even a country, not
with a specific identity, a culture or anything, a language, religion.
We're just a globalist entity. And that's not what I
want to be and I never wanted to become that. Yes,
and that's why I want to stop immigration, both illegal
(19:59):
and it's irresponsible.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, talk to me about the this isthing. I kind
of don't even understand. I'm like fifteen years older than you. Like,
what is it with women in gen Z? Why are
they so far left?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I think I would say I would be hesitant to
say that they're like that.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I know a majority are, but I wouldn't say it's
as much as people think. I think a lot of
it has to do with the Internet. The Internet shapes
the way a lot of gen z thinks. And if
you have a for you page, you're on TikTok or Instagram,
all you have to do is put your gender in there.
If you put no other information and just your gender,
(20:43):
the algorithm will then feed you complete opposite stuff. And
this is what a lot of these companies do, what
a lot of foreign governments do, is they want to
create a divide And so I have been saying for
years the future of divide and division in America likely
isn't going to be race, or income or a lot
of stuff. It's going to be gender, which is specifically
(21:03):
a problem because we need each other. We need women
and women need men. It's just the truth.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, as someone who's a millennial, I feel like one
of the biggest lies that was told to women in
my generation, and I have a lot of friends in
their late thirties right now, was like, you have all
the time in the world to have kids, all the
time in the world to start a family, and I
know women in my life thirties who are like scrambling
to find a husband. They are like, this is my
last chance. I need to get a baby immediately, and
it's it's hard to sit there and see these people
(21:33):
like this. So I really hope that women in your
generation don't kind of fall for the same thing. I mean,
there is biologies real, and time is real, and there's
no other way about it. What about young men in
your generation, are they because there's like there seems to
be you know, the Harry Simpsons of the world, and
then there's not real.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
By the way, he's not a real person. Views aren't
real completely paid, not.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Really, Yeah, because he doesn't have consulting fees and stuff
like that.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Right yeah, yeah, I mean it's all, well, what was
your political evolution?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Was there a book or experience do you have that
maybe you like sit there and say, like, I believe
in these things this way.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I would say, I feel like I was very typical
Maga Republican for a lot of high school, but I
would say it wasn't until late junior year where I
feel like I started to think outside of that, particularly
with immigration, particularly with maybe some of our relations with
other governments and foreign policy being you know, not so interventionist.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I think I would say that was late junior year
of high school.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Or was it like YouTube videos or was it No.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
It wasn't anything that happened. I think I just started
to research it more. I started to think more. I
started to not just accept what I was given on
the internet and by you know, con inc you know,
I wanted to think for myself.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Okay, if you were, if you were, if someone a
parent was to say, hey, now when I have a
fifteen year old, what should I point them to that
made you like this? What would it be?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I don't know where they should go because I just
hate all media, I really do. The media is they're
the worst people in the world, the biggest enemy to
the American people. It's not Iran, it's not China, it's
not Russia, it's not even the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
It's the media.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
They're the worst. They're vultures, they're blood sucking leeches. All
they do is just cause division and chaos in America.
They do that because that's how they get money in ratings.
They have no loyalty to a country, to an ideology
to a people only their money in the ratings, which
come from chaos and a vision. They don't care about
telling the truth. They want to make the story, not
(23:32):
tell it. So I don't know where to go because
I hate all of them.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Okay, well it's not as helpful as I thought it
would be. The last question.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Now, you know the media sucks and everyone knows that.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Well, I've worked in the media. I worked with Bill
Chrispwall with the Washington Examiner. That was in twenty sixteen.
That was a rough experience. Last question, if you were
to get a vice president of answered President Trump and
a room and say like, these are the three things
or the two things that you need to focus on
for my generations heading to the mid terms? In there
like this is what we need. What would it be
that you guys need.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I would say, in terms of what they need to do,
I would say in H one B visa's stop legal immigration,
try to curb AI and technology from taking a lot
of jobs, which is not just my generation, that's everyone.
And I would say not be so interventionist in a
lot of foreign governments. But I think Trump does a
good job because he's very pragmatic on foreign policy. Yeah,
(24:26):
that's more of an advice for Advance to more adopt
Trump's foreign policy. But I would say those are some
big things because the main issue is jobs, affordability and safety.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, and immigration. Yeah, and you mentioned safety. I want
to put this idea in your head. Think of like
all the homes in like really bad crimeer in neighborhoods
that no one wants to live in if they were
available because the crime wasn't there, Housing prices would be
solved a lot, Neil, And where can people go to
read more about what you could put out? Because you
put out the fiery, spiciest tweets on the Internet, And like,
(25:00):
I spend so much time like oh god, what did
Nayaleen say about this or that? And I know a
lot of times I laugh out loud, but like I'm
always curious.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
It's not meant to be funny. It's not meant to
get attention. These are literally I don't even think when
I do it. It's just me being genuine and it's
just I react to what I see.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
But well, some people are genuinely funny. I mean they
don't have to. That's what makes people like interesting yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I would say they could find me on X. It's
just nailing underscore Haley.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
And then if you're local or you're in South Carolina
and you want to get involved, I would say I'm
starting a Young Republicans group for York, Lancaster, and Chester counties.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
It's going to be South Carolina, right, it's South Carolina.
It's just south of Charlotte and.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
That reason in northern South Carolina. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
And so we're focused on advocating for gen Z causes.
We want a campaign and door knock and get on
the ground for conservative candidates, and we want to increase turnout.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Young Republicans are notorious for not doing anything, so I
want to change that.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I want to make it an actual, active, grassroots local movie.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Do you still door knock?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I mean I try to if it's someone that I
that I really want to support you. I was in
Iowa and I doorknocked the negative fifty degrees.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I'll never do that again.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
But did she do you ever door knock and someone
else the door? Like, oh my god, it's nailing, Like that's.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Crazy now and I prefer.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
It that way. Okay, cool, Well, thank you everyoning this
podcast I appreciate so much.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Thank you, Ryan.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Now it's time for Asking Me Anything. If you want
to be part of the Ask Me Anything segment, email
me Ryan at Numbers Game podcast dot com. That's Ryan
at Numbers Game podcast dot com. Plural numbers. I read
them all, I get to them. I have a big stack.
I'm gonna have to do a whole ask Me Anything
day one day. But I love getting these questions and
I answer them all either on the air or on
(26:49):
private email emailing you back. So this one comes from Frank.
He writes, you mentioned that you listen to an unhinged
You listen to unhinged liberal podcasts. Can you recommend any
particularly fun ones or better, Yeah, particularly funny individual episodes
or clips. I remember long ago you recommend a listening
to a podcast episode from Mary Trump and it was fantastic. Yes, Frank,
(27:10):
thank you for listening. What I'm saying that was the
Mary L. Trump Election Day podcast. It was so deranged.
It was so fun because it's like seven hours long,
as you're kind of skip until like results are coming out.
But in the beginning they were like we're kinna sweep
you know, Florida and Texas and it's all going blue.
And then like the night goes on, they go you know,
(27:31):
they're like they're like, we don't need it, we don't
need the state, we don't need that state. We're still good.
The blue walls still holding, the blue wall still holding.
And then it just goes the whole map goes red
and they just start losing their minds. They're like crying
on air and they're like, at least we still have
the house, Like no, we don't have the house. And like,
(27:53):
I mean, one one literally balls crying, like screamed out,
like it was. It was like a guttural cry. It
was so good. It was so so I mean, I
gonna watch that tonight instead of a movie. Just sit
there and put that on. Election nights are great resources
for unhinged liberals. Destiny had an unhinged, unhinged episode on
his YouTube where he was like, you know, hopeful and optimistic.
(28:17):
I think the king of it though, is Alan Lichtman.
I don't know if you know who he is. He's
the guy who had like the thirteen keys or the
sixteen keys. This man's an utter freakin' moron. This man
is dumber than a sack of bricks, and he really
loves to tell him that he's a genius, and I
could not. I I'm not joking to you if he was,
(28:37):
you know, if he had, I'm not gonna say what
we want to say. I want to say something very crude.
But if he had, you know, never mind, I'm not
gonna say I'm not I'm not something that my father
always say. And my father has a mouth like a
truck driver, and I keep the podcast clean. He is
not a bright man, is my point. His election a
podcast about why his thirteen Keys were so accurate and
(28:58):
so smart. And you can't agree from the thirteen Keys.
Oh it's so good because he's delusional. Any other ones
that are really really good, I have to sit there
and go back and watch what I'm watching. I watch
a bunch of Rosie. It's always the women too, like
middle aged women who are like completely obsessed with politics.
Are the ones who are on the left. Who are
the ones who are all like completely out there. I
(29:20):
watch every Rosi o'donnald interview. I can because like they're
not all gems. But when I grew up watching her show,
so I kind of like her from as a kid,
like enjoying her show. But two because when she is
on Hinge, when she goes for a comment about Trump
that is completely not true, like that Elon stole the election.
It is just heaven, like it is heaven. So it's
(29:41):
not a podcast because she doesn't say it all the time,
but when she does, oh it's gold. And then this
is not a podcast. But if you want to like
laugh sometimes, you know on MSNBC and CNN they like
to show themselves very serious. They're very, very intelligent. They read.
It's the sound of a newspaper flipping over. There's so smart.
Morning has seven hundred newspapers everywhere and none of them
(30:02):
are opened, but he's got them constantly. They are the
great props Rachel Maddow. And she did this a couple
of times. An Colter always tells me, like, Rachel Mattow
is the biggest conspiracy theorist on television. She's bigger than
Alex Jones, and she very much is a wild conspiracy theorist.
In twenty nineteen, she said on air, because I remember
watching this and I couldn't believe she said this. In
(30:24):
twenty nineteen, she said that Russia was planning to hack
America's energy grid to freeze the entire state of North
Dakota to death. Yes, the whole state of North Dakota
was going to die in twenty nineteen, according to Rachel Maddow.
And I remember hearing it go. Did she just say,
(30:44):
is anyone is this a gag? She was completely serious,
and she said at another time too, she repeated her conversation,
said you know, they're going to hack the power grid
and freeze everyone in North Dakota to death. And I
still can't get over that. And she's never been fired
or called out for like no comment ever. I think
she was given a raise. But yeah, those kinds of things,
(31:04):
when liberals will say something that's utterly nutty, I find fasting.
There's that one woman who's going very popular on the blogs.
She's got a lot of botox, she came with her
face very well. I don't even know her name. She's
like anger and screaming all the time. I don't enjoy
her because I find her like to be extremely annoying.
Kar Swishers the same way, like Karen can have moments
(31:25):
where I'm like, well that Carra has a show with
her with like a liberal guy who's a teacher at
Scott Galloway's its prosiony you and like sometimes when it's attack,
that's something very interesting to sit there and say, or
about the markets. They lapsing, very very smart. They'll take
from me and then when they talk about politics they'll
say something completely delusional. And their post and pre election
(31:47):
was fantastic, fantastic because they have no shame in being
wrong all the time. Uh, and they are very proud
of it. They're very proud of their opinions. Even their
opinions are you know, jaw droppingly incorrect. Scott Galloway was
on a school board. He said this. He was on
(32:07):
the school board and he voted to shut the school
board down. He caused irreparable damage to young men and
young women's lives by shutting it on a school He
has no shame in it whatsoever. And he said, you
guys should all just move on. No, I love watching
them suffer, like I really do, and and embarrass themselves.
I really really do, because while you know there's no
(32:28):
harm in them being wrong on a podcast, he has
actually harmed people in his lives. Not great when it
comes to being accountable anyway. That's a long rane those
are some good episodes. I like to watch them. Kathy
Griffin also has like delusional things that she says a
lot of her on her podcasts on YouTube. She actually
one last thing and I'm going to close the show.
(32:50):
She actually was the first person I've heard this rumor
in DC circles. I never believed it, so I never
repeated it. But there was always a rumor in DC
circles that Elon Musk was having an affair with Stephen Willer,
Miller's wife. Once again, I don't believe it. I never
believed it was just a rumor that I constantly heard.
These rumors were circulating around constant, but other things, and
you have to parse what seems like it's nonsense and
(33:12):
what seems like it doesn't. She was the first person
I ever heard who said this out loud on a
podcast and was like, oh, yeah, you know this is
this is how uh this is what's going on? I
was like, WHOA, One, how did she hear that kind
of gossip? And two it's absolutely alive she's saying it.
You know, what's LII because she's never you know, she's
also another crazy one like Rosie who's never accurate. But
(33:33):
makes me laugh sometimes. Anyway, thank you for listening to podcast.
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