In this episode, Tudor Dixon talks with Scott Jennings about his new book A Revolution of Common Sense and how Donald Trump reshaped American politics and media. Jennings breaks down why authenticity matters more than ever, the contrast between Trump-style campaigning and traditional GOP politics, and the political fallout surrounding Marjorie Taylor Greene. They also dig into institutional battles in Washington, the release of the Epstein files, the shortcomings of Obamacare, and the cultural challenges driving the demand for major reform in America. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I have my friend
Scott Jennings with me today. He has just written a
new book. You know him as the host of the
Scott Jennings radio show on Salem. Also you see him
fighting liberals every day on CNN. But right now he's
got a new book out. It's called A Revolution of
Common Sense How Donald Trump stormed Washington and fought for
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Western civilization. Scott, thanks so much for coming on.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm really honored to be here, Tutor. Thanks for having
me on to talk about this great book. I've been
working on it all year, and finally it's in bookstores.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
You can walk in and buy it today.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
That is so, I saw you were at the White
House and you sat with the president. It seems like
you maybe went there and got some had some discussions,
and then he actually signed it too, so he's a fan.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yes, he cooperated and I interviewed quite a bit of
the cabinet and several of his senior staffers, so they
were very generous with their time and access this year.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So I signed one for him, and he signed one
for me.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
And I was in there for about an hour on Monday,
and I saw the Vice President JD. Vance, And you know,
as always, if you're in the Oval office, there's a
lot of people coming and going, So it was it
was fun to be there. He was on his way
to the McDonald's speech the other night when I saw him,
but he was in he was in a pretty good mood,
and I got a bit of a tutorial about the
East wing construction. So you never know what you're gonna
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get when you go in there, but it's always.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Exciting, absolutely, And he was right about the tartar sauce
on fileia fish. There should be more ipe McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Here's a true behind the scenes story.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I was talking to Abby Phillip, my friend here at
CNN who I'm on her show a lot at night.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
And she actually said, I agree with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
The fileo fish sandwich is the best sandwich and they
don't use enough tartar sauce. So we found common ground
between Trump and Abby over the Fialleo fish.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's a miracle. It's a miracle. That is so funny.
But I was when he I was like, that is
so something he would say, and he's right about it,
and that's something that you talk about. He's an unscripted politician.
And it's so hard to find someone who's just genuine
because so many of us are like, yeah, I want
to say that too, and he just says it. And
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that's not just about McDonald's, it's about so many other things.
You think that this is kind of like a new
era of politician, But how many people can really be
like that?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Well, it's a great question.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I'll tackle the first part first, which is I think
he's totally changed media and politics in that, you know,
we're done with the era of scripted politicians. You know,
people who can only read a script or read something
that someone else has written for them. Audiences want you
to speak from the heart. They want to know that
this is authentically what you believe. He has mastered that.
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You can say a lot of things about Donald Trump,
but no one could ever accuse him of not telling
us what's on his mind.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I mean he does, so be'st number one. Number two.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I think this is also affecting our media choices. I
think people are looking at you know, cable news or
whatever show they want to watch, and they're wondering, is
this an authentic conversation or is this a scripted thing?
And I think the things that are unscripted and more
authentic are succeeding right now. That's why a lot of
independent media is succeeding, because you know, they're not, you know,
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doing things in a tight little box with a teleprompter
and stuff. They're just kind of going from the heart.
And I think it has a lot of appeal. That
is part of his political magic.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
It's funny because I've seen people who try to replicate it,
and it is very hard for the typical politician to
break out of the box. And I think you if
you've been spent some time in the political world, you
know that it's all so risky because if you just
shoot from the hip, you can say something you can't
come back from. He seems to be immune from that.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Well.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I think what he learned is is that a people
will forgive you your you know, mistakes or your contradictions
or whatever, as long as they believe you're being straight
with them and you're speaking from the heart.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
That's number one. Number two.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You know, you can see the difference in him when
he speaks off the cuff versus when they try to
put him on the tele prompter.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Like the energy level, it's so different.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It's so different, and I just think he is a
thousand percent better when they just wind him up and
let him go. And yeah, you know, maybe you know,
he says a few things that people get bent out
of shape about, but I just think that's what audiences
are looking for. The American people just want folks to
be straight with them. And you know, these scripted politicians
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like Kamala Harris was you know, or there are even
some Republicans that he ran against. That's all they were
capable of doing was just reading what someone else put
in front of their face. And that I just have
a feeling we're past that now. Authenticity is the coin.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Of the realm.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, I agree, I see it. I also see it
more on the Republican side. I mean, Jade Vance goes
out and does these podcasts and he talks a long form.
A lot of Republicans are starting to do this. But
if you look at the Democrat Party, I mean, you
brought up Kamala, she obviously couldn't do it. She can't
have those long form conversations. But even if you look
at the most recent races in New Jersey and in
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DC or in Virginia and then also, especially in New York.
Mom Donnie, he gave a lot of scripted speeches. He's
an actor, his mother is a producer. He was very
well produced. He didn't go and sit and just shoot
the breeze with people. Do you think this is only
a Republican thing? Are the Democrats just sticking to their
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talking points?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Well?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I think in the case of Mom Donnie, once he
won the primary, I mean, they just need to not
make any mistakes. I mean, so they were running sort
of I think a risk averse campaign. And look, he
got to run against Andrew Cuomo twice. I mean, how
many people are this lucky in politics? He got to
run against justliked people. The guy was disgraced when he
left office, and so Mom Donnie got lucky in some ways.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I think people who are trying to rise up in.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Politics in most cases are going to have to exude
some of that authenticity. And sometimes it just has to
do with the circumstances you're in, the people that you're
running against. You know, when you look at the Trump
versus Harris race, I mean she was incapable of answering
basic questions and unscripted setting.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
She couldn't do it. Look.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
She her campaign effectively ended the day that she went
on The View, and Sonny Hosten, of all people, one
of the dumbest people on American television, said well, hey,
is there anything that you would do differently than Joe Biden?
And she says, I can't think of anything, so that,
I mean, honestly, like it ended her campaign that day
because she's only capable of scripted, tightly controlled settings.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
So even the View in that case was a dangerous
environment for her.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
The better candidates are going to be people who have
enough confidence to go into any kind of a conversational
setting and be confident enough what they're doing and what
they're saying to answer questions from people a friendly or hostile.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Well, you brought up the view. We've seen Marjorie Taylor
Green recently on the View. She has suddenly taken She's
like turned against what got her elected, which seems very weird.
She's turned against the I mean, I would say she's
turned against the grass. She's turned against MAGA in general.
She certainly made it clear that she's turned against the president,
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and he responded, he doesn't always respond to things like
this that are close to home, but I do think
that this one is particularly painful because they were close
and he did come out and support her, and vice versa,
she came out and supported him. You have some behind
the scenes information that I had also heard about the poll.
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Do you think that she is acting out of emotion
here and can she come back from this?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Well? I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I wouldn't want to speak to her motivations about how
she's feeling today. Obviously, she has chosen to go on
a media tour to attack the president. I mean, that's
her choice right now. I do think, and I talked
to people around the president. I spoke to him about
it the other night. Look, early this summer, she wanted
to run for office in Georgia's statewide They sent her
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a poll.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
He did it discreetly, He did it behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
He didn't choose to embarrass her or do anything publicly,
but they showed her the information to try to save
her from a humiliation in Georgia that it just wasn't
going to work out for her. And since that time,
she has opposed the president on his Middle East policy.
She has opposed the president on deportations. She has gone
on all sorts of liberal media and attacked the President,
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and it all kind of started about the time that
they sent her that information. He was trying to do
her a favor, I believe, and save her from a humiliation,
and she has reacted negatively to that, and so it's unfortunate.
You know, I know they were friends, and look, people
come and go. I saw Elon Musk get a state
dinner this week.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I know, right exactly, you never know what will happen, So.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You would hope that, like you know, people you know,
put these kinds of things aside, because I truly also
believe that the common enemy is the left, not each
other inside the conservative movement, and the more we fight
each other, the worse off we're going to be in
our fight against the left. So you know, I'm always
hoping for good vibes and good feelings inside the tent.
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But sometimes people do things that I think aren't good.
And I think her attacking Donald Trump on the view
and watching the hosts and the audience sit there and
clap like seals is not at all helpful of the
conservative movement.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
But you have a very interesting perspective on it because
you've been in the White House. You see kind of
the behind the scenes you knew the behind the scenes
from the Bush White House. I think a lot of
people don't see it the way you see it, and
the fact that you bring out like he's doing her
a favor, he's talking to her, he's saying, you have
a brand, you have a lot of power. And I
think that's what people miss. When you're in Congress, you
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are in a small district in the state. When you
run for Senate, you have to win over the whole state.
Georgia is a different state than I mean, it's not
a red state. I know some people mistake it because
they're like, oh, it's a southern state, so it's red.
But it's not a red state. She's in a very
red district. So when you say he was protecting her,
he was trying to be generous and he did it quietly.
(10:03):
That is very significant to me because it shows a
side of Donald Trump that people don't necessarily see, but
his entire his entire administration, because it's not a decision
that he makes in a vacuum. They discuss it as
a team.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Oh yeah, and look, when you're the president, you have
a political affairs team and you're the titular head of
your party. I worked in political affairs when I worked
for President Bush, and so the party looks to you
for sound decision making and sound judgment when it comes
to political affairs and political issues going on throughout your
political party. It's not unusual for people who want to
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run for office to seek the advice of the president
or his political team, and so in this case, they
were giving her, I think, the best advice they could,
but it was in the form of information, and the
information was quite clear about what the outcome would be
if she chose to run against John Ossol, she would
not have come anywhere near winning Senate in Georgia, and
so that was good for her to know, and it
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was good for them to.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Be honest with her.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
The worst thing you can do is, you know, just
kind of play along with something.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
When you know it's a terrible idea. So I think
it was a moment of honesty.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
But again it was done discreetly, and they didn't try
to publicly humiliate her over that.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
They didn't try to embarrass her.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
But now she's out trying to embarrass the president, and.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
The left just jumps on that. They love more.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
The easiest way to get on TV in Washington as
a Republican is to be willing to criticize Trump or
crap on your own people. That's the fastest way to
get on TV and to start to get all the
plaudits from the media and the people who run that
and so that that's what she's doing now, and it's
I'm sure it's highly disappointing to him because, as you
pointed out, they had had a close relationship.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
So you you obviously were talking about the Trump White House,
but you were there for the Bush White House. What
are the big differences because obviously on the outside we
see differences and we assume things, but you have been
on the inside of both. Tell us what you see.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
The main difference, of course, is the communications environment in
which Trump operates, in which Bush operated. You know, Bush
came just before the dawn of social media. So the
way you had to deal with the press, the way
information moved it was a lot slower and a lot different.
Now they are in an instantaneous, dynamic communications environment. The
political information distribution complex is far less influential today than
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it has ever been.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
The corporate media is less influential today.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
There's all this new media, you know, people with YouTube
channels and podcasts and independent journalists. There's just more ways
to get your message out today for Trump than there
ever was for George W.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Bush.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
So it's it's even hard to compare because the communications.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Eras are so different.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
But I think the other thing is, and this is
what Republicans love about the president, the man fights back.
You know, when you are a Republican president, you've got
the media that's trying to destroy you, You've got Democrats
that are trying to destroy you, and you've got the
entrenched federal bureaucracy that's trying to stop you at a
minimum and destroy you at worst. And so you have
to fight back. And that's what Trump does. He fights back.
(13:03):
And in this term, what I learned about my reporting
for the book is it's easy to get overwhelmed by
these antagonistic forces in Washington, and Trump just decided I'm
going to overwhelm them. I mean, he basically said, you
throw a pebble at me, I'm throwing a boulder back
at you.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
And he overwhelmed them, and he was.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Able to hit the ground running in this term before
they ever even really got out of bed and realized
what was happening to them. And I think he picked
the team to do that who understood his management style
and his leadership style. And you know, most people I
know the voted for Trump are elated with how much
he's been able to get done inside that strategy over
ten months.
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Scott Jennings after this. We love that because you're right,
there's a he can get his message out. But the
attacks also come fast and furious in a different way
than they have before. And in the past Republicans have
been kind of mealing mouth. They haven't really fought back.
There hasn't been this aggression. It's almost like, you know,
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we're the kind party, we're the nice guys. We're Midwest
nice across the whole party, so we don't go out
and attack. But he is all New York, right, so
he just goes right after him. And I think for
us that has been incredibly valuable from the standpoint of
what we're headed into in the midterms in twenty eight
because we have been used to being attacked and backing down.
(15:31):
I'll take the BBC for example. You know, they said, oh,
we apologize, We're not going to do anything else, and
he immediately said, I'm going to sue. Now all of
these legal experts have come out and said he can't
do it. I'm on the side of yeah, keep fighting,
because if you can even make them pay ten thousand dollars,
that moment is big for a company like that, and
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every other media company goes. You know what, we better
be careful about how we do things, just like the
CBS interview. We better be careful about manipulating this stuff
in the future. And it only happens if you make
them feel financial pain.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I think one of the things Trump looks at in
these situations is this question, is this a fight worth having?
And whether it's with the media who treat Republicans terribly,
or whether it's with these universities who have treated Jewish
students on their impuses terribly, or you know, name your institution,
if they are corrupt, if they are failing, and if
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they are hurting people, is this a fight worth having?
And Trump often decides, yes, it is a fight worth having.
Maybe I don't have a great chance of success, maybe
a court's gonna, you know, disagree with me, but the
fight is worth having because it sheds light on the
institutional failure. I look at what he's done with these universities,
and they're run atrociously. There's no ideological diversity on campus.
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They allow Jewish students and sometimes Christian students to be
terrorized on their campuses with these radicals, you know, who
hate America and hate the way running a wild on campus.
Trump says, what, we don't have to allow this. Why
can't someone step into the breach here and say, hold on,
you're failing as an institution. It's a fight worth having.
And so when you have these fights with institutions, of course,
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it makes them angry. So you hear media people raging,
or you hear university people raging.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
But that's okay. I think the American people have.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Concluded, or at least have a strong suspicion, that many
of our institutions have failed us, and so they're looking
for someone to pick this fight because having the fights
leads to reform. The media will reform, the universities will reform.
These institutions that have failed can reform, but often reform
requires a little conflict to get it going. And I
think that's what Trump the catalyst has provided.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I think you're right about the fact that he looks
at the problem, he goes, is this worth battling? And
I think he sees it from a media perspective. He's
been not only has he been in the construction and
building industry, but he also had the media, had his show,
and he sees he has that mindset of, you know,
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central casting and what's going to come out good and
what is worth having out there in the public. But
the Epstein files has been kind of a He's gone
back and forth on that. When he was when he
was campaigning, he was all about He's going to release
the Epstein files, and then it almost seems like once
he got into office, he really was in the mode
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of I've got two years to push these things through,
and we're going to have the midterms, and we've got
to see how the midterms go. But when you get
in and you've got a four year term and you
have midterms in the middle, you know, he's thinking, I
got to push everything through and he doesn't want distractions.
And I truly believe that he knows that the Epstein
files are going to consume all of the media's time
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for the next year. Ultimately he has changed that. They've
he said this week go out there vote on it.
You know what, I'm fine with the letting it all
come out. Interestingly, you've talked about how he excommunicated Epstein
from mar A Lago, which, so far, what we've seen
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coming out of these files is it seems like Epstein
was never happy with Trump. He was always kind of
going against him. You even see it when he's coaching
the Democrat in the hearing about Trump, like, hey, here's
what you can bring out and here's how you can
attack more. He is actually coaching someone on a on
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a committee that is going after Trump. We see that now.
Wouldn't it have been quite devastating for Epstein in his
dirty little business to be excommunicated from a big club
like mar A Lago, because it's not just that he
can't do business there, that suddenly destroys his reputation. And
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what he did, as disgusting as it was, it was
all based on reputation. So wouldn't it be fair to
say he's likely he was likely not a fan of
Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Oh, I think your comment about what we're learning is
that he hated Trump is right. Look at some of
the emails that have been released. I think he hated.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Trump because Trump threw him out.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I mean when Trump realized, I mean it seems to
me and look, I wasn't there, you weren't there. But
it just looks like that when Trump realized this guy
was a total creep, he jettisoned him from mar A Lago,
He got rid of him out of his life.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Contrast that to the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Jeffrey Epstein gets convicted of sex crimes and they are
still buddying up with this guy. They are consulting with him,
They want to raise money from him. Got Hakeem Jeffrey's
trying to get him to come to a fundraiser. You've
got Larry Summers, the president of Harvard, the former Bill
Clinton Treasury secretary, soliciting dating advice from Jeffrey Epstein. You've
got Stacy Plaskett, who's texting with him. What do I
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say now? What do I say now? It's like he
was controlling a member of Congress and programming what they
were going to say in a hearing. I think the
Democrats in the media have wanted the Epstein's story to
be a Trump story. What we may find out is
that it's a Democrat story and how tied in to
the Democratic establishment and to the left that Epstein really was.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
So they've been clamoring for this.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It may blow up in their face because it seems
to me that the real story here is Trump got
rid of the guy Democrats never did, and we may
find out the depths of that.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Well you I saw you talking about this and CNN
and somebody and the whole Stacy Plasket thing, and somebody said, well,
don't we don't know that she knew anything about him
at that time. But he had already been convicted in
twenty twelve, right.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yes, he had been and the conversation, yes, and the
conversations with Plasket occurred in twenty nineteen. At this point,
he's convicted sex trafficker and so look and then she says, well,
it's just my constituent. And then she went on and
see it in this morning, I guess and said, well,
you know, some people did some things, and so she
really had. She really has stepped in it here. But
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Democrats knew what they were dealing with. But the fundraising
connections that he had and look what Plaskett was doing
was clear. They hate Trump so much that they were
willing to coordinate with and align with a convicted sex
trafficker that also hated Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Orange Man Dad means I will align.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
With the worst people in the world if I can
get a political advantage or score some points on Donald Trump.
That is basically how the Democratic Party operates. We now
know that the documents are quite clear. The Washington Post
has reported on this, so it's simply not true that
we don't really know what was going on. Plasket knew,
they know, and now everybody knows. And it's an embarrassment
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for the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Well considering this has been the topic of conversation for
all of these months now, and this is their focus,
and they are just they didn't say anything when Biden
was in office. Now they're just all over this. But
they wouldn't censure her. They wouldn't censor Stacey Plaskett. So
what does that say? How much do they really care?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
And I you know, and sadly I saw that some
Republicans may have not wanted to do it either, which
I don't get it, Like, look, she did a bad
thing here, and then she also has lied about it.
And if we're going to be serious about Epstein and
if we're going to go down the whole the road
here of saying anyone who had anything to do with
Epstein is tainted and we have to make them take
responsibility for it. Well, that's got to apply to Democrats too. Again,
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they want this to be a story about Donald Trump.
But when it's your own party, you got to hold
everybody to the same standard.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I just think a lot more Democrats had a lot
more to do with Epstein than Donald Trump ever did.
But you know what I have also learned a tutor,
is I don't think Democrats care about the victims. I
don't think they care about any of the outcomes here.
They just care about dunking on Trump. They want to
create narratives about Trump. They want people to believe that
Trump had something to do with this, when there's not
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a shred of evidence that he have done anything wrong
or had anything to do with it at all. They
did the same thing on Russia. They wanted everyone to
believe that Russia had stolen the election, and by the way,
they were successful. One whole political party takes as an
article of faith that Russia stole the twenty sixteen election.
And now I assume if you went to a Democratic
political dinner, one hundred percent of the people in there
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would take it as an article of faith that Donald
Trump had something to do with Epstein, when you and
I know there's not a shred of evidence to support that.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Right absolutely, And it's not just that I think they
don't care about the victims. I mean, we look at
what has happened in the last two months. They shut
down the government. They would not vote for the same
thing they'd voted for time and time again under Joe Biden.
They allowed these They allowed our military to go without payments.
And for those people who weren't close to somebody, let
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me tell you, we have a family at our school
that went without pay for weeks and got to the
point where they were pretty humiliated. I mean, that's the
thing about it. It's not just that you're in a
financial disaster. You're humiliated. You're working without pay and you
can't pay your bills. They allowed the American people to
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be humiliated. They allowed people to go without the benefits
that they should have. And they still can't say that
Obamacare is a failure.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, the Affordable Care Act, it's not affordable and you
can't get any care.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I mean it was an act.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
It has that going for it, but the other the
first two words are inoperable. This is what Democrats do.
They name legislation the opposite of what it does. Yes,
Production Act. It did not reduce inflation. It wasn't act,
but it was the Inflation Inflation Act. And so they
will frequently name things the opposite of what they do.
They want to pin this tail on the Republicans. It's
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Obamacare is the underlying issue. The subsidies were Democratic subsidies.
The sunset provision was a democratic provision. All of these
things are problems manifested by the Democrats. And you want
to turn this into a Republican problem, I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Good luck.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I think what we learned in the shutdown fight is
the democratic health care regime under which we all live
is a total failure. It is in complete collect We
also learned that the SNAP benefit program forty three million
Americans on SNAP.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I was shocked when I heard that number.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And so now we need to have a conversation about
the broader welfare state. And I think it's right that
the Trump folks are going to make people reapply for
this because you know there is fraud and abuse in
that system. Those things need to exist for the people
who truly need it, not for the people who are
defrauding it or who are somehow gaming the system. And
so the welfare reform they did in the Big Beautiful
(26:30):
Bill was good and it's generational. Now it continues with
snap and I think it's long overdue.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. Reminds me a lot of when
we were talking about men and women's sports and the
shame of you can't question anything, which I find interesting.
I don't know if you saw this, but Joy Read
recently was interviewed and she said, well, I don't want
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a man in my locker room. I don't want to
see a penis in my life locker room. And I
was like, really, what, Well, that's what we've been saying.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
You now match ninety eight percent of the rest of
us who think, yes, women should play against women, men
should play against men, they should not share a locker room.
By the way, the title of my book, a Revolution
of Common Sense, There is an entire section in here
about the transgender issues that Trump has tackled. That's one
of a bunch of cultural issues where we were sort
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of forced down our throats. This uncommon nonsense of the left.
DEI is another part of it. But Trump shows up
it says, wait a minute, I'm just going to say
what everyone else is thinking.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
This is crazy.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
So that's one of the reasons he won the election,
and then of course he acted on it when he
got in office.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
And I think a lot of people are grateful for.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
It right well, And I think that's the key here
for people who are trying to figure out how to
talk about this, because we watch you every day and
I have to say, there's like this jealousy when I
watch him, like how does he do it? He's so smart,
he knows all the He's able to just go after
every one of these arguments. But we're now in a
situation where even in our own personal lives, you talk
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about Hitler and the fact that Hitler, the statement of
being Hitler has no meaning anymore. You talk about all
of these things that have to do with common sense,
but we don't know how to talk back about it.
And that's why I do want people to go get
the book, because you don't get to escape politics as
much as you might want to, and guess what. Thanksgiving
(28:31):
is coming and Christmas is coming, and you're going to
have people attacking you about politics, and this will help
you talk about it.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Let me give you some advice.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
If you know somebody who loves Trump, give this to
them for Christmas. They'll be elated. If you know someone
who hates Trump, give that. Put this under the tree
and watch them unwrap it on Christmas morning, and you'll
have the best life.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Either way.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
It's a winner. Either way, it's a winner. So go
to the bookstore or go to Amazon and get it today.
I'm really proud that I was able to write it
and had great access some of the things Elon told me.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
By the way, I've popping and.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
So just there's some great stuff in there and great issues,
and I hope you like it.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
That's actually the Elon interview is very interesting. He wants,
he has this great desire to keep the United States
from going bankrupt. I think we are so spoiled, we
think we're fine, And he was uniquely in that position,
going this is I'm looking at these numbers. It's not okay.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I asked him, why are you here, and he said,
I'm trying to find a way to make America not
go bankrupt, and that was one sort of part of
our conversation. But he thinks, you know, our fiscal issues
devaluing our currency, combined with the mass migration crisis that
we have suffered and that Europe has suffered. He thinks
all of this is going to sort of culminate into
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a downfall of the West, our falling birth rates. He
thinks this is part of it. And so you know,
he's quite clear about his mission. He thinks Western civilization
is hanging in the balance, and that's why he supported Trump.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
That's why he went into the government.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
And I spoke to him, I think, on the Presidence
one hundred and first day in office, and I could
tell Elon was a little bit out of shape with
Washington that I don't think he found people there that
he thought really shared his urgency for the problems that
we face. I didn't realize he and Trump were going
to part ways there for a couple of months over
the big Beautiful Bill, and I saw that they're back
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together this week at the Saudis State Dinner, which I'm
grateful for. But Elon is feeling an urgency about what
we're facing in this world. It's not politics as usual.
There's more existential things going on here that we have
to solve.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I think that anybody who goes into Washington for the
first time is stunned by the lack of movement. You know,
it's not like business. You think it is, but it's not.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
It's not like business.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
And of course Elon was getting his first taste of
government service. And you run headlong into this bureaucracy in Washington,
you run headlong into Capitol Hill, and it can be
enormously frustrating for people who are used to moving fast
and breaking things. I think the principles of Doze and
what they were trying to do were enormously valuable.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
We spend money on a bunch of nonsense.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
The President laid a lot of it out in his
March speech to Congress, and it was funny to us
at the time, But can you imagine how did our
government produce funding transgender operas in other countries and all
sort of the nonsense that we were funding. Like somehow
our bureaucracy wound up deciding to do that. And it
is more than annoying, it is alarming because if you
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would decide to do that with our money, What else
would you decide to do?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
And so I think what Elon was trying to.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Accomplish was totally worthwhile, and the program ought to continue.
Maybe you could do better pr on it over time,
but I just I think the idea that reining in
that kind of annoying or worth spending it was one
of the better features of the first part of the
of the year for Trump.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Oh absolutely exposing that was invaluable. The American people needed
to see it, and without Elon it wouldn't have happened.
And so I appreciate him, but I appreciate you. I
appreciate what you have done on TV. I appreciate your book.
Tell everybody where they can get it, because they're getting
close to Christmas. They got to go now.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Go now.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
It's called a revolution of common sense. Walk into a
bookstore and it should be in there, or go on
Amazon and you'll have it the next day. Wherever you
get your books. You can buy the hard copy and
put it under the Christmas tree. You can get the
audible version. I read it myself, and so if you
like audiobooks, you can do that.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
However you get it, I hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I hope you learn something, and you'll learn a little
bit about Trump behind the scenes, and you'll learn about
Trump interpersonally. I didn't know him that well when I
started writing the book, but I got to spend some
time with him, and it was an eye opening experience
and a valuable experience, and I think it'll make you
a more informed person on American politics.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
If you read the book, and if you listen you
get that nice Kentucky accent, it'll be great.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
You got it. I had to drawl and all in there,
so I hope you like that too.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Rival I went to UK, So did you go to UK?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I did?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, I don't think I did well. I'm sorry to
tell you know. Louisville bee Kentucky the other night.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I'm suh, stop, yes, let's not Why did I bring
this up?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah, Louiell's gonna be good this year. We might be
fine for material.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I've been a Kentucky fan for a part of my
life too, so I always like going to games in
both a Rapperina and the Young Center.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
But Louisville, Louisville did get the better of the Cats
the other night.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
So well, I might have a I might have a
girl going to UK in a few years. We visited
over the summer and she loved it, so we'll see.
But I'm a big Kentucky fan in general, and I
am a big fan of yours. Scott Jennings, thank you
so much for coming on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Thanks Tudor, love you, thank you, thank.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
You, and thank you all for listening to the Tutor
Dixon Podcast. As always, you can get it on the
iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts,
and make sure you join us next time, and as always,
have a blast day.
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I have my friend
Scott Jennings with me today. He has just written a
new book. You know him as the host of the
Scott Jennings radio show on Salem. Also you see him
fighting liberals every day on CNN. But right now he's
got a new book out. It's called A Revolution of
Common Sense How Donald Trump stormed Washington and fought for
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Western civilization. Scott, thanks so much for coming on.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm really honored to be here, Tutor. Thanks for having
me on to talk about this great book. I've been
working on it all year, and finally it's in bookstores.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
You can walk in and buy it today.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
That is so, I saw you were at the White
House and you sat with the president. It seems like
you maybe went there and got some had some discussions,
and then he actually signed it too, so he's a fan.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yes, he cooperated and I interviewed quite a bit of
the cabinet and several of his senior staffers, so they
were very generous with their time and access this year.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So I signed one for him, and he signed one
for me.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
And I was in there for about an hour on Monday,
and I saw the Vice President JD. Vance, And you know,
as always, if you're in the Oval office, there's a
lot of people coming and going, So it was it
was fun to be there. He was on his way
to the McDonald's speech the other night when I saw him,
but he was in he was in a pretty good mood,
and I got a bit of a tutorial about the
East wing construction. So you never know what you're gonna
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get when you go in there, but it's always.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Exciting, absolutely, And he was right about the tartar sauce
on fileia fish. There should be more ipe McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Here's a true behind the scenes story.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I was talking to Abby Phillip, my friend here at
CNN who I'm on her show a lot at night.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
And she actually said, I agree with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
The fileo fish sandwich is the best sandwich and they
don't use enough tartar sauce. So we found common ground
between Trump and Abby over the Fialleo fish.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's a miracle. It's a miracle. That is so funny.
But I was when he I was like, that is
so something he would say, and he's right about it,
and that's something that you talk about. He's an unscripted politician.
And it's so hard to find someone who's just genuine
because so many of us are like, yeah, I want
to say that too, and he just says it. And
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that's not just about McDonald's, it's about so many other things.
You think that this is kind of like a new
era of politician, But how many people can really be
like that?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Well, it's a great question.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I'll tackle the first part first, which is I think
he's totally changed media and politics in that, you know,
we're done with the era of scripted politicians. You know,
people who can only read a script or read something
that someone else has written for them. Audiences want you
to speak from the heart. They want to know that
this is authentically what you believe. He has mastered that.
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You can say a lot of things about Donald Trump,
but no one could ever accuse him of not telling
us what's on his mind.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I mean he does, so be'st number one. Number two.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I think this is also affecting our media choices. I
think people are looking at you know, cable news or
whatever show they want to watch, and they're wondering, is
this an authentic conversation or is this a scripted thing?
And I think the things that are unscripted and more
authentic are succeeding right now. That's why a lot of
independent media is succeeding, because you know, they're not, you know,
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doing things in a tight little box with a teleprompter
and stuff. They're just kind of going from the heart.
And I think it has a lot of appeal. That
is part of his political magic.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
It's funny because I've seen people who try to replicate it,
and it is very hard for the typical politician to
break out of the box. And I think you if
you've been spent some time in the political world, you
know that it's all so risky because if you just
shoot from the hip, you can say something you can't
come back from. He seems to be immune from that.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Well.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I think what he learned is is that a people
will forgive you your you know, mistakes or your contradictions
or whatever, as long as they believe you're being straight
with them and you're speaking from the heart.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
That's number one. Number two.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You know, you can see the difference in him when
he speaks off the cuff versus when they try to
put him on the tele prompter.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Like the energy level, it's so different.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It's so different, and I just think he is a
thousand percent better when they just wind him up and
let him go. And yeah, you know, maybe you know,
he says a few things that people get bent out
of shape about, but I just think that's what audiences
are looking for. The American people just want folks to
be straight with them. And you know, these scripted politicians
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like Kamala Harris was you know, or there are even
some Republicans that he ran against. That's all they were
capable of doing was just reading what someone else put
in front of their face. And that I just have
a feeling we're past that now. Authenticity is the coin.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Of the realm.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, I agree, I see it. I also see it
more on the Republican side. I mean, Jade Vance goes
out and does these podcasts and he talks a long form.
A lot of Republicans are starting to do this. But
if you look at the Democrat Party, I mean, you
brought up Kamala, she obviously couldn't do it. She can't
have those long form conversations. But even if you look
at the most recent races in New Jersey and in
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DC or in Virginia and then also, especially in New York.
Mom Donnie, he gave a lot of scripted speeches. He's
an actor, his mother is a producer. He was very
well produced. He didn't go and sit and just shoot
the breeze with people. Do you think this is only
a Republican thing? Are the Democrats just sticking to their
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talking points?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Well?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I think in the case of Mom Donnie, once he
won the primary, I mean, they just need to not
make any mistakes. I mean, so they were running sort
of I think a risk averse campaign. And look, he
got to run against Andrew Cuomo twice. I mean, how
many people are this lucky in politics? He got to
run against justliked people. The guy was disgraced when he
left office, and so Mom Donnie got lucky in some ways.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I think people who are trying to rise up in.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Politics in most cases are going to have to exude
some of that authenticity. And sometimes it just has to
do with the circumstances you're in, the people that you're
running against. You know, when you look at the Trump
versus Harris race, I mean she was incapable of answering
basic questions and unscripted setting.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
She couldn't do it. Look.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
She her campaign effectively ended the day that she went
on The View, and Sonny Hosten, of all people, one
of the dumbest people on American television, said well, hey,
is there anything that you would do differently than Joe Biden?
And she says, I can't think of anything, so that,
I mean, honestly, like it ended her campaign that day
because she's only capable of scripted, tightly controlled settings.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
So even the View in that case was a dangerous
environment for her.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
The better candidates are going to be people who have
enough confidence to go into any kind of a conversational
setting and be confident enough what they're doing and what
they're saying to answer questions from people a friendly or hostile.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Well, you brought up the view. We've seen Marjorie Taylor
Green recently on the View. She has suddenly taken She's
like turned against what got her elected, which seems very weird.
She's turned against the I mean, I would say she's
turned against the grass. She's turned against MAGA in general.
She certainly made it clear that she's turned against the president,
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and he responded, he doesn't always respond to things like
this that are close to home, but I do think
that this one is particularly painful because they were close
and he did come out and support her, and vice versa,
she came out and supported him. You have some behind
the scenes information that I had also heard about the poll.
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Do you think that she is acting out of emotion
here and can she come back from this?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Well? I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I wouldn't want to speak to her motivations about how
she's feeling today. Obviously, she has chosen to go on
a media tour to attack the president. I mean, that's
her choice right now. I do think, and I talked
to people around the president. I spoke to him about
it the other night. Look, early this summer, she wanted
to run for office in Georgia's statewide They sent her
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a poll.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
He did it discreetly, He did it behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
He didn't choose to embarrass her or do anything publicly,
but they showed her the information to try to save
her from a humiliation in Georgia that it just wasn't
going to work out for her. And since that time,
she has opposed the president on his Middle East policy.
She has opposed the president on deportations. She has gone
on all sorts of liberal media and attacked the President,
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and it all kind of started about the time that
they sent her that information. He was trying to do
her a favor, I believe, and save her from a humiliation,
and she has reacted negatively to that, and so it's unfortunate.
You know, I know they were friends, and look, people
come and go. I saw Elon Musk get a state
dinner this week.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I know, right exactly, you never know what will happen, So.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You would hope that, like you know, people you know,
put these kinds of things aside, because I truly also
believe that the common enemy is the left, not each
other inside the conservative movement, and the more we fight
each other, the worse off we're going to be in
our fight against the left. So you know, I'm always
hoping for good vibes and good feelings inside the tent.
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But sometimes people do things that I think aren't good.
And I think her attacking Donald Trump on the view
and watching the hosts and the audience sit there and
clap like seals is not at all helpful of the
conservative movement.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
But you have a very interesting perspective on it because
you've been in the White House. You see kind of
the behind the scenes you knew the behind the scenes
from the Bush White House. I think a lot of
people don't see it the way you see it, and
the fact that you bring out like he's doing her
a favor, he's talking to her, he's saying, you have
a brand, you have a lot of power. And I
think that's what people miss. When you're in Congress, you
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are in a small district in the state. When you
run for Senate, you have to win over the whole state.
Georgia is a different state than I mean, it's not
a red state. I know some people mistake it because
they're like, oh, it's a southern state, so it's red.
But it's not a red state. She's in a very
red district. So when you say he was protecting her,
he was trying to be generous and he did it quietly.
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That is very significant to me because it shows a
side of Donald Trump that people don't necessarily see, but
his entire his entire administration, because it's not a decision
that he makes in a vacuum. They discuss it as
a team.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Oh yeah, and look, when you're the president, you have
a political affairs team and you're the titular head of
your party. I worked in political affairs when I worked
for President Bush, and so the party looks to you
for sound decision making and sound judgment when it comes
to political affairs and political issues going on throughout your
political party. It's not unusual for people who want to
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run for office to seek the advice of the president
or his political team, and so in this case, they
were giving her, I think, the best advice they could,
but it was in the form of information, and the
information was quite clear about what the outcome would be
if she chose to run against John Ossol, she would
not have come anywhere near winning Senate in Georgia, and
so that was good for her to know, and it
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was good for them to.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Be honest with her.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
The worst thing you can do is, you know, just
kind of play along with something.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
When you know it's a terrible idea. So I think
it was a moment of honesty.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
But again it was done discreetly, and they didn't try
to publicly humiliate her over that.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
They didn't try to embarrass her.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
But now she's out trying to embarrass the president, and.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
The left just jumps on that. They love more.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
The easiest way to get on TV in Washington as
a Republican is to be willing to criticize Trump or
crap on your own people. That's the fastest way to
get on TV and to start to get all the
plaudits from the media and the people who run that
and so that that's what she's doing now, and it's
I'm sure it's highly disappointing to him because, as you
pointed out, they had had a close relationship.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
So you you obviously were talking about the Trump White House,
but you were there for the Bush White House. What
are the big differences because obviously on the outside we
see differences and we assume things, but you have been
on the inside of both. Tell us what you see.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
The main difference, of course, is the communications environment in
which Trump operates, in which Bush operated. You know, Bush
came just before the dawn of social media. So the
way you had to deal with the press, the way
information moved it was a lot slower and a lot different.
Now they are in an instantaneous, dynamic communications environment. The
political information distribution complex is far less influential today than
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it has ever been.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
The corporate media is less influential today.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
There's all this new media, you know, people with YouTube
channels and podcasts and independent journalists. There's just more ways
to get your message out today for Trump than there
ever was for George W.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Bush.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
So it's it's even hard to compare because the communications.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Eras are so different.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
But I think the other thing is, and this is
what Republicans love about the president, the man fights back.
You know, when you are a Republican president, you've got
the media that's trying to destroy you, You've got Democrats
that are trying to destroy you, and you've got the
entrenched federal bureaucracy that's trying to stop you at a
minimum and destroy you at worst. And so you have
to fight back. And that's what Trump does. He fights back.
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And in this term, what I learned about my reporting
for the book is it's easy to get overwhelmed by
these antagonistic forces in Washington, and Trump just decided I'm
going to overwhelm them. I mean, he basically said, you
throw a pebble at me, I'm throwing a boulder back
at you.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
And he overwhelmed them, and he was.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Able to hit the ground running in this term before
they ever even really got out of bed and realized
what was happening to them. And I think he picked
the team to do that who understood his management style
and his leadership style. And you know, most people I
know the voted for Trump are elated with how much
he's been able to get done inside that strategy over
ten months.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Stick around. We have more with Scott Jennings. But if
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Scott Jennings after this. We love that because you're right,
there's a he can get his message out. But the
attacks also come fast and furious in a different way
than they have before. And in the past Republicans have
been kind of mealing mouth. They haven't really fought back.
There hasn't been this aggression. It's almost like, you know,
(15:08):
we're the kind party, we're the nice guys. We're Midwest
nice across the whole party, so we don't go out
and attack. But he is all New York, right, so
he just goes right after him. And I think for
us that has been incredibly valuable from the standpoint of
what we're headed into in the midterms in twenty eight
because we have been used to being attacked and backing down.
(15:31):
I'll take the BBC for example. You know, they said, oh,
we apologize, We're not going to do anything else, and
he immediately said, I'm going to sue. Now all of
these legal experts have come out and said he can't
do it. I'm on the side of yeah, keep fighting,
because if you can even make them pay ten thousand dollars,
that moment is big for a company like that, and
(15:53):
every other media company goes. You know what, we better
be careful about how we do things, just like the
CBS interview. We better be careful about manipulating this stuff
in the future. And it only happens if you make
them feel financial pain.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I think one of the things Trump looks at in
these situations is this question, is this a fight worth having?
And whether it's with the media who treat Republicans terribly,
or whether it's with these universities who have treated Jewish
students on their impuses terribly, or you know, name your institution,
if they are corrupt, if they are failing, and if
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they are hurting people, is this a fight worth having?
And Trump often decides, yes, it is a fight worth having.
Maybe I don't have a great chance of success, maybe
a court's gonna, you know, disagree with me, but the
fight is worth having because it sheds light on the
institutional failure. I look at what he's done with these universities,
and they're run atrociously. There's no ideological diversity on campus.
(16:51):
They allow Jewish students and sometimes Christian students to be
terrorized on their campuses with these radicals, you know, who
hate America and hate the way running a wild on campus.
Trump says, what, we don't have to allow this. Why
can't someone step into the breach here and say, hold on,
you're failing as an institution. It's a fight worth having.
And so when you have these fights with institutions, of course,
(17:13):
it makes them angry. So you hear media people raging,
or you hear university people raging.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
But that's okay. I think the American people have.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Concluded, or at least have a strong suspicion, that many
of our institutions have failed us, and so they're looking
for someone to pick this fight because having the fights
leads to reform. The media will reform, the universities will reform.
These institutions that have failed can reform, but often reform
requires a little conflict to get it going. And I
think that's what Trump the catalyst has provided.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I think you're right about the fact that he looks
at the problem, he goes, is this worth battling? And
I think he sees it from a media perspective. He's
been not only has he been in the construction and
building industry, but he also had the media, had his show,
and he sees he has that mindset of, you know,
(18:05):
central casting and what's going to come out good and
what is worth having out there in the public. But
the Epstein files has been kind of a He's gone
back and forth on that. When he was when he
was campaigning, he was all about He's going to release
the Epstein files, and then it almost seems like once
he got into office, he really was in the mode
(18:26):
of I've got two years to push these things through,
and we're going to have the midterms, and we've got
to see how the midterms go. But when you get
in and you've got a four year term and you
have midterms in the middle, you know, he's thinking, I
got to push everything through and he doesn't want distractions.
And I truly believe that he knows that the Epstein
files are going to consume all of the media's time
(18:49):
for the next year. Ultimately he has changed that. They've
he said this week go out there vote on it.
You know what, I'm fine with the letting it all
come out. Interestingly, you've talked about how he excommunicated Epstein
from mar A Lago, which, so far, what we've seen
(19:09):
coming out of these files is it seems like Epstein
was never happy with Trump. He was always kind of
going against him. You even see it when he's coaching
the Democrat in the hearing about Trump, like, hey, here's
what you can bring out and here's how you can
attack more. He is actually coaching someone on a on
(19:32):
a committee that is going after Trump. We see that now.
Wouldn't it have been quite devastating for Epstein in his
dirty little business to be excommunicated from a big club
like mar A Lago, because it's not just that he
can't do business there, that suddenly destroys his reputation. And
(19:53):
what he did, as disgusting as it was, it was
all based on reputation. So wouldn't it be fair to
say he's likely he was likely not a fan of
Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Oh, I think your comment about what we're learning is
that he hated Trump is right. Look at some of
the emails that have been released. I think he hated.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Trump because Trump threw him out.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I mean when Trump realized, I mean it seems to
me and look, I wasn't there, you weren't there. But
it just looks like that when Trump realized this guy
was a total creep, he jettisoned him from mar A Lago,
He got rid of him out of his life.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Contrast that to the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Jeffrey Epstein gets convicted of sex crimes and they are
still buddying up with this guy. They are consulting with him,
They want to raise money from him. Got Hakeem Jeffrey's
trying to get him to come to a fundraiser. You've
got Larry Summers, the president of Harvard, the former Bill
Clinton Treasury secretary, soliciting dating advice from Jeffrey Epstein. You've
got Stacy Plaskett, who's texting with him. What do I
(20:48):
say now? What do I say now? It's like he
was controlling a member of Congress and programming what they
were going to say in a hearing. I think the
Democrats in the media have wanted the Epstein's story to
be a Trump story. What we may find out is
that it's a Democrat story and how tied in to
the Democratic establishment and to the left that Epstein really was.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
So they've been clamoring for this.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It may blow up in their face because it seems
to me that the real story here is Trump got
rid of the guy Democrats never did, and we may
find out the depths of that.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Well you I saw you talking about this and CNN
and somebody and the whole Stacy Plasket thing, and somebody said, well,
don't we don't know that she knew anything about him
at that time. But he had already been convicted in
twenty twelve, right.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yes, he had been and the conversation, yes, and the
conversations with Plasket occurred in twenty nineteen. At this point,
he's convicted sex trafficker and so look and then she says, well,
it's just my constituent. And then she went on and
see it in this morning, I guess and said, well,
you know, some people did some things, and so she
really had. She really has stepped in it here. But
(21:58):
Democrats knew what they were dealing with. But the fundraising
connections that he had and look what Plaskett was doing
was clear. They hate Trump so much that they were
willing to coordinate with and align with a convicted sex
trafficker that also hated Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Orange Man Dad means I will align.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
With the worst people in the world if I can
get a political advantage or score some points on Donald Trump.
That is basically how the Democratic Party operates. We now
know that the documents are quite clear. The Washington Post
has reported on this, so it's simply not true that
we don't really know what was going on. Plasket knew,
they know, and now everybody knows. And it's an embarrassment
(22:38):
for the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Well considering this has been the topic of conversation for
all of these months now, and this is their focus,
and they are just they didn't say anything when Biden
was in office. Now they're just all over this. But
they wouldn't censure her. They wouldn't censor Stacey Plaskett. So
what does that say? How much do they really care?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
And I you know, and sadly I saw that some
Republicans may have not wanted to do it either, which
I don't get it, Like, look, she did a bad
thing here, and then she also has lied about it.
And if we're going to be serious about Epstein and
if we're going to go down the whole the road
here of saying anyone who had anything to do with
Epstein is tainted and we have to make them take
responsibility for it. Well, that's got to apply to Democrats too. Again,
(23:23):
they want this to be a story about Donald Trump.
But when it's your own party, you got to hold
everybody to the same standard.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I just think a lot more Democrats had a lot
more to do with Epstein than Donald Trump ever did.
But you know what I have also learned a tutor,
is I don't think Democrats care about the victims. I
don't think they care about any of the outcomes here.
They just care about dunking on Trump. They want to
create narratives about Trump. They want people to believe that
Trump had something to do with this, when there's not
(23:53):
a shred of evidence that he have done anything wrong
or had anything to do with it at all. They
did the same thing on Russia. They wanted everyone to
believe that Russia had stolen the election, and by the way,
they were successful. One whole political party takes as an
article of faith that Russia stole the twenty sixteen election.
And now I assume if you went to a Democratic
political dinner, one hundred percent of the people in there
(24:15):
would take it as an article of faith that Donald
Trump had something to do with Epstein, when you and
I know there's not a shred of evidence to support that.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Right absolutely, And it's not just that I think they
don't care about the victims. I mean, we look at
what has happened in the last two months. They shut
down the government. They would not vote for the same
thing they'd voted for time and time again under Joe Biden.
They allowed these They allowed our military to go without payments.
And for those people who weren't close to somebody, let
(24:42):
me tell you, we have a family at our school
that went without pay for weeks and got to the
point where they were pretty humiliated. I mean, that's the
thing about it. It's not just that you're in a
financial disaster. You're humiliated. You're working without pay and you
can't pay your bills. They allowed the American people to
(25:03):
be humiliated. They allowed people to go without the benefits
that they should have. And they still can't say that
Obamacare is a failure.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, the Affordable Care Act, it's not affordable and you
can't get any care.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I mean it was an act.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
It has that going for it, but the other the
first two words are inoperable. This is what Democrats do.
They name legislation the opposite of what it does. Yes,
Production Act. It did not reduce inflation. It wasn't act,
but it was the Inflation Inflation Act. And so they
will frequently name things the opposite of what they do.
They want to pin this tail on the Republicans. It's
(25:37):
Obamacare is the underlying issue. The subsidies were Democratic subsidies.
The sunset provision was a democratic provision. All of these
things are problems manifested by the Democrats. And you want
to turn this into a Republican problem, I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Good luck.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I think what we learned in the shutdown fight is
the democratic health care regime under which we all live
is a total failure. It is in complete collect We
also learned that the SNAP benefit program forty three million
Americans on SNAP.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I was shocked when I heard that number.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And so now we need to have a conversation about
the broader welfare state. And I think it's right that
the Trump folks are going to make people reapply for
this because you know there is fraud and abuse in
that system. Those things need to exist for the people
who truly need it, not for the people who are
defrauding it or who are somehow gaming the system. And
so the welfare reform they did in the Big Beautiful
(26:30):
Bill was good and it's generational. Now it continues with
snap and I think it's long overdue.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. Reminds me a lot of when
we were talking about men and women's sports and the
shame of you can't question anything, which I find interesting.
I don't know if you saw this, but Joy Read
recently was interviewed and she said, well, I don't want
(26:57):
a man in my locker room. I don't want to
see a penis in my life locker room. And I
was like, really, what, Well, that's what we've been saying.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
You now match ninety eight percent of the rest of
us who think, yes, women should play against women, men
should play against men, they should not share a locker room.
By the way, the title of my book, a Revolution
of Common Sense, There is an entire section in here
about the transgender issues that Trump has tackled. That's one
of a bunch of cultural issues where we were sort
(27:28):
of forced down our throats. This uncommon nonsense of the left.
DEI is another part of it. But Trump shows up
it says, wait a minute, I'm just going to say
what everyone else is thinking.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
This is crazy.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
So that's one of the reasons he won the election,
and then of course he acted on it when he
got in office.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
And I think a lot of people are grateful for.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
It right well, And I think that's the key here
for people who are trying to figure out how to
talk about this, because we watch you every day and
I have to say, there's like this jealousy when I
watch him, like how does he do it? He's so smart,
he knows all the He's able to just go after
every one of these arguments. But we're now in a
situation where even in our own personal lives, you talk
(28:09):
about Hitler and the fact that Hitler, the statement of
being Hitler has no meaning anymore. You talk about all
of these things that have to do with common sense,
but we don't know how to talk back about it.
And that's why I do want people to go get
the book, because you don't get to escape politics as
much as you might want to, and guess what. Thanksgiving
(28:31):
is coming and Christmas is coming, and you're going to
have people attacking you about politics, and this will help
you talk about it.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Let me give you some advice.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
If you know somebody who loves Trump, give this to
them for Christmas. They'll be elated. If you know someone
who hates Trump, give that. Put this under the tree
and watch them unwrap it on Christmas morning, and you'll
have the best life.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Either way.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
It's a winner. Either way, it's a winner. So go
to the bookstore or go to Amazon and get it today.
I'm really proud that I was able to write it
and had great access some of the things Elon told me.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
By the way, I've popping and.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
So just there's some great stuff in there and great issues,
and I hope you like it.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
That's actually the Elon interview is very interesting. He wants,
he has this great desire to keep the United States
from going bankrupt. I think we are so spoiled, we
think we're fine, And he was uniquely in that position,
going this is I'm looking at these numbers. It's not okay.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I asked him, why are you here, and he said,
I'm trying to find a way to make America not
go bankrupt, and that was one sort of part of
our conversation. But he thinks, you know, our fiscal issues
devaluing our currency, combined with the mass migration crisis that
we have suffered and that Europe has suffered. He thinks
all of this is going to sort of culminate into
(29:50):
a downfall of the West, our falling birth rates. He
thinks this is part of it. And so you know,
he's quite clear about his mission. He thinks Western civilization
is hanging in the balance, and that's why he supported Trump.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
That's why he went into the government.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
And I spoke to him, I think, on the Presidence
one hundred and first day in office, and I could
tell Elon was a little bit out of shape with
Washington that I don't think he found people there that
he thought really shared his urgency for the problems that
we face. I didn't realize he and Trump were going
to part ways there for a couple of months over
the big Beautiful Bill, and I saw that they're back
(30:24):
together this week at the Saudis State Dinner, which I'm
grateful for. But Elon is feeling an urgency about what
we're facing in this world. It's not politics as usual.
There's more existential things going on here that we have
to solve.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I think that anybody who goes into Washington for the
first time is stunned by the lack of movement. You know,
it's not like business. You think it is, but it's not.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
It's not like business.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
And of course Elon was getting his first taste of
government service. And you run headlong into this bureaucracy in Washington,
you run headlong into Capitol Hill, and it can be
enormously frustrating for people who are used to moving fast
and breaking things. I think the principles of Doze and
what they were trying to do were enormously valuable.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
We spend money on a bunch of nonsense.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
The President laid a lot of it out in his
March speech to Congress, and it was funny to us
at the time, But can you imagine how did our
government produce funding transgender operas in other countries and all
sort of the nonsense that we were funding. Like somehow
our bureaucracy wound up deciding to do that. And it
is more than annoying, it is alarming because if you
(31:31):
would decide to do that with our money, What else
would you decide to do?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
And so I think what Elon was trying to.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Accomplish was totally worthwhile, and the program ought to continue.
Maybe you could do better pr on it over time,
but I just I think the idea that reining in
that kind of annoying or worth spending it was one
of the better features of the first part of the
of the year for Trump.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Oh absolutely exposing that was invaluable. The American people needed
to see it, and without Elon it wouldn't have happened.
And so I appreciate him, but I appreciate you. I
appreciate what you have done on TV. I appreciate your book.
Tell everybody where they can get it, because they're getting
close to Christmas. They got to go now.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Go now.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
It's called a revolution of common sense. Walk into a
bookstore and it should be in there, or go on
Amazon and you'll have it the next day. Wherever you
get your books. You can buy the hard copy and
put it under the Christmas tree. You can get the
audible version. I read it myself, and so if you
like audiobooks, you can do that.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
However you get it, I hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I hope you learn something, and you'll learn a little
bit about Trump behind the scenes, and you'll learn about
Trump interpersonally. I didn't know him that well when I
started writing the book, but I got to spend some
time with him, and it was an eye opening experience
and a valuable experience, and I think it'll make you
a more informed person on American politics.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
If you read the book, and if you listen you
get that nice Kentucky accent, it'll be great.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
You got it. I had to drawl and all in there,
so I hope you like that too.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Rival I went to UK, So did you go to UK?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I did?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, I don't think I did well. I'm sorry to
tell you know. Louisville bee Kentucky the other night.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I'm suh, stop, yes, let's not Why did I bring
this up?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah, Louiell's gonna be good this year. We might be
fine for material.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I've been a Kentucky fan for a part of my
life too, so I always like going to games in
both a Rapperina and the Young Center.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
But Louisville, Louisville did get the better of the Cats
the other night.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
So well, I might have a I might have a
girl going to UK in a few years. We visited
over the summer and she loved it, so we'll see.
But I'm a big Kentucky fan in general, and I
am a big fan of yours. Scott Jennings, thank you
so much for coming on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Thanks Tudor, love you, thank you, thank.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
You, and thank you all for listening to the Tutor
Dixon Podcast. As always, you can get it on the
iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts,
and make sure you join us next time, and as always,
have a blast day.
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