November 27, 2025 • 34 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Weird.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Thankful for you on this Thanksgiving Day for being a
listener here on the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
You are listening to the best of Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Malcolm Gladwell probably, I think the most famous non fiction
celebrity author in America. Would you buy into that designation
in terms of book sells, I don't know that anybody
would have sold more copies than him.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
It's him and Michael Lewis probably for our to go
to the last twenty years or so, those would be
the two that I think are. I met him in France,
by the way, for the iHeart event, so I actually
met mister Gladwell for the first we shook hands.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I mean, he wouldn't you know, He.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Had no idea who I was like, hey man, yeah,
so yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
So I'm going to play a cut for him. I
imagine a lot of you have read his books. Tipping
Point is probably the most famous, but he's got a
ton of different books, and I think he has a
very popular podcast. So I would bet a huge percentage
of you are familiar with who Malcolm Gladwell is. So
let me take you behind the scenes a little bit.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Here.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I sold my company OutKick to Fox in twenty twenty one.
On Super Bowl Sunday twenty twenty one, we made two
million dollars in affiliate revenue for from FanDuel. That is
that Super Bowl Day. The company that I ran, we
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and founded. We were one of the top affiliates in
the entire country. So if you were watching Tom Brady
Tampa Bay Buccaneers go up against Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs,
our company and to a large extent me made more
money than anybody playing in that game. On sports gambling
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affiliate referral deals we were for FanDuel, which is the
biggest sports affiliate company sports gambling company in the country.
We were either their best or second best affiliate partner
in the country. Pat McAfee, who now is at ESPN,
was also wildly profitable for them. We were their too
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best at helping to promote and I love sports gambling obviously.
We've got a great relationship with Price Picks, which ties
in here with that. We made six seven million dollars
a year on that deal. That was important for us
as a part of the company sold the company. FanDuel
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said they wouldn't work with me anymore, Buck because I
was too outspoken on the trans sports issue. This is
a sports gambling company. They said Clay is too controversial
because he is saying men should not be competing in
women's sports, and FanDuel is worried about the controversy that
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he brings for being so outspoken on that issue. As
a result, FanDuel refused to work with me, and as
a result, refused to work withoutkick So me merely saying
men should not be able to compete in women's athletics
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cost the company that I founded and owned around seven
million dollars a year. I don't know how much money
you guys make, but seven million dollars a year for
a media company is a big, huge part of what
allows the company to be profitable to employ tons of people.
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But as a matter of principle, I said, I'm not
going to stop talking about this, even though FanDuel is saying, well,
you're too controversial for saying this. So the reason why
I give you that backstory is it was even though
it's one hundred percent the right thing to say, it
took hutzba It took sometimes turning away from millions of
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dollars to say what I personally believe to be true
and allow the company to be at the forefront of
arguing this.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Is no, no, no, no, no, no, not what you not
what you personally believe to be true, what is undeniably, unequivocally,
obviously and as clear as anything could be true, which
I think is important. You weren't penalized, Clay for an opinion.
You were penalized for a fact, which is a whole
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that is Soviet Union level stuff. That is everyone who's starving.
Say the grain harvest is the biggest grain harvest of
all time. That is a manufactured delusion, my friend.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
And if you wonder why did people not step up
against this across all of sports, only OutKick and really
only me at the at the forefront of this, we're
willing to make this argument. It's because the big advertising
partners out there would grab you by the you know
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what and they would squeeze if you tried to step
out along. This is the truth. Nobody else will even
tell you this. I'm telling you directly. Okay, Malcolm Gladwell
came out. They have a big sports conference, sports analytics
conference at MIT, and they had a bunch of famous
(05:15):
uh Malcolm Gladwell has a connection to sports. He's a
big sports fan. He's done sports related reporting and stories.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
And he and everybody else on that panel at the
I think it's the Sloan Kettering Mit Institute or whatever,
refused to speak out against men competing in women's sports
because the consequences were real. What I just told you,
it could cost your company millions of dollars, It could
cost you personally millions of dollars. It could impact your employability.
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They were very targeted in the way that they attacked here.
And now he's come out, this just happened yesterday, and
Malcolm Gladwell says, Hey, I was bullied, I was cowed.
I was afraid of the consequences, and now I'm going
to tell you the truth. Men shouldn't be able to
compete in women's sports.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
To listen, if we did a replay of that exact
panel at the Sloan conference this coming March, it runs
in exactly the opposite direction, and it would be I
suspect near unanimity in the room that trans athletes have
no place in the female category. I don't think this
is any question. I just think it was a strange.
(06:25):
I mean, I felt. I mean the reason I'm ashamed
of my performance of that panel because I share your
position one hundred percent, and I was count the idea
of saying anything on this issue. I was in a
I believe in retrospect in a dishonest way.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
I was.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
I was objective in a dishonest way.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Okay, I give him credit for coming out and being
honest about this. I think this is so incredibly important
because there are consequences. Unfortunately, when you are willing to
speak the truth, your qualification is important there. This is
not This is not me arguing what the tax rate
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in Moldova should be, and we're sitting around and we're like, well,
you know, this is his Dudes are not chicks, and
chicks are not dudes, and pretending they are is a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
That is what this is.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Even in the world of sports, it's beyond that buck
because you're saying men don't have a competitive advantage, or
you're sitting around you're saying, well, we have to do studies.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
No, men are.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Bigger, stronger and faster than women, you know, but underlying
all of it, underlying all of it, and this has
to be remembered is that trans for example, and this
is usually what we're talking about in the sports context,
trans women are women indistinguishable and to be treated by
society and the law as women indistinguishable from women in
all respects, even though they're not women. That is the
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actual foundational mandatory belief of the trans movement, right is
that they transplate what is the phrase trans women are women? Yeah,
this is this is what they say. Trans women are women,
and that's why they should be able to play in
women's sports.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
That is a lie.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I think this is important though, and I see this everywhere,
and people who may not be involved in media, a
lot of you sit around you say, well, how did
this happen? It was if you were willing to speak
out on this issue. Advertisers said, I can't. I won't
work with this person anymore. And I'm talking about a
friggin sports gambling company. You think that it's a coincidence
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that that they're, of all companies that should be one
that recognized, hey, men and women's sports is ridiculous. They
actually pushed back and they said, even though you, Clay
and your company have made us tens of millions of dollars,
which we had objective reality you could look at and say, hey,
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people love this, they wouldn't spend money with us anymore.
And this is how they control what people say. Because
most people are not willing to give up the money.
They just pretend this story didn't exist. It wasn't that
everybody was as outspoken in as Gladwell is saying there.
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It was just that a lot of companies just pretended
this didn't happen, or they would say, as they still say, now,
I don't know why you care about that. Why you
even care? It doesn't happen that often. It's not that
big of it.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Well, this is always that. This is always the progression. Right,
it's not happening. It's not happening that much. Why do
you care? Okay, it's happening. It's happening a little bit.
Uh to, It's good, it's happening. Shut your face. We're
in charge now. And this is this is this was COVID,
this is trans this, this is that is the the
slippery slope of leftism in America today. It has to progressivism,
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it has to progress The argument always has to go
to the next level. And it's all based on lies,
because of course it is happening because they know what's happening,
and they know it's wrong, and they know they want
to do more of it, but they use an incrementalist
strategy to chip away at things and for gladwell become
out now, Clay, Yeah, because everything has changed now Now
you can say it.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Now you can actually because people like.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Me spoke out so hard and took the slings and arrows.
I will say, Buck, I give him some credit for
acknowledging he was wrong, because what a lot of people
are going to do is they're going to wait another
couple of years and they're gonna come They're gonna say, well,
everybody knew this was ridiculous all along, and then that
they never actually argue otherwise.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah. I mean that's particularly gross, right, But that will happen.
I think that is true.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Five years from now, there will not be a single
man in America who will say I ever thought it
was okay? Oh no, no, men pretending to be women
were competing. I disagree with that. There will be people, Clay.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
There are people that will take this to the very
end and they think that they can get a rebound
with this in time. All they have to do that
they think that they will find their way back into power,
back into the culture. Twenty percent of the country is
never going to abandon this. Twenty percent of the country
is certifiably insane. I mean they think the common Harris
was a good candidate and Joe Biden's brain was working.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
These people are nuts.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Well I say this, I mean people who are actual
sports fans, right, because I understand on some level, if
you stay, if you don't know anything about sports and
you think, like, hey, maybe Serena Williams is better than
Roger Federer at tennis, maybe they should play and maybe
the woman would win, I actually give them a pass
because they're so clueless on the difference of biology. But
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any man, I mean this honestly, any man who has
ever played a high school, college, and certainly a pro
sport knows that the idea of men being able to
compete in women's sports was on its face, laughably absurd.
And where it matters is if they can get you
to argue that, or if they can get you to
stay silent on that, they can keep advancing the the
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the left wing agenda because they've cowed you into silence.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yeah, well, and you've you've basically become complicit in your
own cowardice and your own silencing. And if they can
get you to say something that's that crazy, they can
get you to say anything. That's the whole point. If
they can get you to believe this, they can get
you to believe that you know that the sky is purple,
and you know the earth is flat, and you name it.
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And that's that's a very powerful tool of psychological manipulation,
because it's degrading. When the state or when society forces
you to mouth a lie, to say the slogans that
they demand that you know are false, it degrades you psychologically.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah. The point.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
They do this in all totalitarian regimes, by the way,
and they do it purposefully.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
And let me say this too. I think the one
thing I will say additionally in favor of Gladwell is this,
I think America would be far better if we all
acknowledge when we get things wrong. I don't think that
anybody out there listening expects for you or me to
get everything right. I think when we claim that we
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never get anything wrong, it actually delegitimizes the things that
we get right. And I do think Malcolm Gladwell coming
out and saying yes, it's convenient now. Yes, the consequences
and the stakes and the punishment for being on the
quote unquote wrong side of the ledger on this issue
are much de minimized because we won this battle so far.
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But I do think being willing to acknowledge we've said it.
Like I said it was gonna be a red tsunami
in twenty twenty two. Didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I had to wear it like I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Now, we got a lot right about the twenty twenty
four election, But I don't think people out there trusted
us less because you got something wrong, because everybody gets
things wrong.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Well, that's a prediction too. Yeah, there's a difference between
a prediction, which is inherently uncertain, and telling a lie. Yes,
one goes to analysis and nobody's perfect. Another goes to
you're selling out, and a lot of people. I will
tell you almost everyone sold out. I won't name them
because I don't. People can always, even people on the
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other side, if they asked to speak me in confidence,
I keep I keep confidence. I know some prominent democrats
in the media, Clay who would say to me offline, oh,
the trance thing is crazy, but the agenda's crazy. But
I can't say it because my side would eat me alive. Yep,
welcome back in here.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
To Clay and Buck. Let's take some talkbacks.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Hear from all of you all across this great land
of ours. We've got Ken who listens in Lincoln, Nebraska,
d D on the talkback hit It.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
Don't be hating on people who sports the robe. Yes,
it is a lifestyle. I'm retiring. Well, I'm not a
retiring pastor. I'm still a pastor, but I'm about to retire.
I'm an avid fly fisherman, have built several poles, So
don't be hating. Good show. Have a blessed one.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Thank you, you have a blessed one too. I don't usually
think of robe guys as also fly fishermen, but.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
That is a bit of a that is a bit
of an upset, like if he had been like and
I'm also into smoking pot and and you know, wearing
Birkenstocks yours, smoking pot and orgies.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
That's kind of what I think about for a rogue guy.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
So I've also I've noticed something, probably because of all
the lot of all the young people walking around trick
or treating, there is This is very unk of me,
which is how you wearing an unk T shirt.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I am Ali got me an unk T shirt.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Bunk and owning it.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So that's a word that the youth uses.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
But I've noticed something that the kids, like thirteen to sixteen,
they're wearing crocks. Un ironically.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Oh yeah, the shoe was popular. Crocs.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
And their hairstyle is this like poofy in the front
thing like it's like unkempt, kind of like like wavy curly.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
This is the hairy boy. I think my boys have this.
I mean exactly what you're saying. If you had them
come over to the camera, I can tell you. But
I can tell you they're all these kids walking around
with the same hair. It's a very unique hairstyle. Yes,
and that they're rocking. Crocs are and have been for
several years now, insanely popular with young kids, like teenage
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teenage kids. I thought you were going to say, well,
hold on, let's play Renee in Kentucky who wanted to
react to the idea of all this candy being stolen.
Speaker 8 (16:17):
If my son had ever dumped a bowl of candy
and his bag, I would have busted his ass on
the spot. He would have had to apologize as well
as do community service work for that neighbor. That's how
that goes. Anyone else that would do something different is
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low class.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Rena, you are someone who is holding a line on
civilization and I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Renee is very civilized. Buck, I love that.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
And yeah, if you happened to see your kid on
one of those viral videos, I think you should make
a video of the kid oologizing and make them go
knock on the door and buy candy, maybe do some
yard work to make up for the candy that he took. Hey,
I'm Clay Travis and I'm Buck Sexton. You know what
we're thankful for this year?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
All of you. That's right.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
We have the best radio audience in the country, hands down.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Sending a big, warm and happy Thanksgiving from the Clay
and Buck Show.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
And there are tons of videos that are going viral
of the so called, you know, sort of Halloween porch
pirates on Friday, the number of people that left out treats.
This happened even in my own neighborhood. Some my wife
was showing me some of these videos and kids a
lot of times, teenagers frankly who sometimes make as all
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of you well remember, moronic decisions, but also parents that
are involved here and right off the top, we had
our last Halloween in the Travis House. We have been
in the same house for a decade. I just posted
a photo gave out seventeen bottles of fireball shots to
all the moms and dads the neighborhood that we lived
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in in Franklin, Tennessee. I can say it now, I
think I don't know that I ever said it before.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
West Haven.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
You've been there, buck one of the greatest neighborhoods I
think in the entirety of the United States. After a decade,
are moving, not going to do Halloween there anymore. But
Halloween has been phenomenal thanks to everybody who has been
so great to my family for over a decade of
living there. Super sad yesterday when I left, because you know,
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you raise your family in a house at some point
you're going to be in this experience. You got a
six month old we moved into that house. My youngest
was in in a crib. He now is in fifth grade.
So it's just been in a tremendous experience there. I
would describe where I lived as, generally speaking, a high
trust community where everybody looks after everybody else's kids, and
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it's a fantastic place to live as a result, And
everybody comes around and mostly with parents. You take one
little piece of candy at a time. But as you
see all of these different stories about these ring cameras
and everybody coming along and just dumping the entire thing
into their bag, I do think this is culture, buck,
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and when you lose culture, you lose the country. And
it might sound small, but I do think it's a
metaphor of a low trust society that unfortunately exists in
much of America now.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
But we're just talking about the circulation of videos all
over the country. Remember these are usually with parents present.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
That's the part. That's the part that I think is people.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
So there are parents who are watching their kids. Now,
now let's like work through this process for a second.
They're watching their children maybe you know, eleven, twelve, thirteen.
It's really not like young kids that are doing this.
It's not five year olds. It's you know, ten, eleven, twelve,
thirteen year olds, maybe fourteen year olds that are just
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pillaging the take one piece of candy for yourself. Why
is that the rule or why is that the request
so that other people can get their candy?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Right? It's very and also you see these kids.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
It's not like they're taking a handful and we're saying, oh,
they're only supposed to take one. Okay, a handful's fine.
No one's got a problem with that. There are videos
with parents watching, okay, the parents of these kids where
they take like the candy bowl and they dump the
whole thing, yes, you know, five pounds of candy. They
dump it into their bag and they're kind of laughing
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and gleeful about this and then they, you know, hurriedly
walk away and.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
It's just a disgrace. It's disgusting.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
And you know, this is one of these things you
see what you see. You know, we're in this era
where there's video of that over the place and everywhere
of everything, and uh, you know, people, we should bring
back shame a little bit in this country. Like if
you're doing this stuff and people know and your neighbors know, like,
you should feel ashamed. I agree, it should be shamed.
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You should apologize. You know, there's all these I remember
even near me where there was all the theft going
on Clay There was a grocery store near me that
had the photos of the of the repeat shoplifters, and
there have been efforts to sue them. How dare you
and you know you're not allowed to show this. It's like,
why are people okay with this? This is this should
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be something that we all are are clearly against and
it's just a shame that it's something that should be
as joyful and innocent as you know Halloween trick or treating.
There are people who are being really gross about the
whole thing, a lot of them by it. If this
isn't like one person, there's a lot of this going on. No,
I think totally.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
And people can say, well, what's the significance you know
of this? I do think it is representative of low
trust in culture. And I talked about in Chicago, dad
and daughter going out trick or treating. Dad pulls up
in a car and instantly the car gets stolen. Somebody
runs up with a gun, puts it in his face,
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just trying to take the little girl out trick or treating.
And I do think that what you will see likely
occur is the parents that are allowing this to happen,
and even encouraging it to happen. Have raised kids that
are gonna have a lot of issues in the years
ahead because they have lost the ability to interact in
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an honest culture. And to your point, teenagers do stupid things,
and so to me, the parents watching it and even
encouraging it is a substantial part of this. But I
think it speaks also to and I know there are
strict moms, but we had a big conversation about this.
I think it speaks also to a lot of times
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dads are enforcers in households, you know, particularly young men boys.
They respond to dad as a household influencer more than
they do to mom. That doesn't mean that moms out
there aren't often forced to do incredible job both raising,
trying to play the role of both parents because a
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lot of men are absent. But this reminds me Buck
of do you remember the big study they did. This
is why I think it would be true if you
could run out for years. One of the best signs
of your ability to succeed in life is can you
defer rewards? And they have that great is the like
either it's a donut or a cookie, marshmallows was the
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initial one they tell you for those of you haven't
seen this study, and they actually have funny videos of
this of little kids trying to avoid a treat, right
and they basically come in and they say, hey, if
you can wait a certain amount of time, will give
you two. And so there's a treat on the table
and it's sometimes a cookie donut. I think it started
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with marshmallows, and they'll be like, hey, little if you
can wait, then we'll give you double. And what they
have been able to find is the kids that are
able to defer the reward have overwhelmingly higher levels of
success than the kids who take the immediate gratification in
front of them. And to me, this is a sign
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of that, right, hey, you're still going to get a
lot of candy. I mean, my son came home with
a whole a pillowcase full of candy. But you have
to put in the time to go from one house
to another, or you can run up and dump the
whole thing in at once. I think you're going to
see that the life results are actually negative for the
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kids that are doing this.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
There's also very clear, very clear data on delaying gratification
and IQ level. So now you start to get it
to this part of the conversation as well. Higher IQ
corresponds directly with a greater likelihood to be willing to
delay gratification for better reward. So this is true. Any
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of you can, you can check this out. Dumber people
want it right now? Yeah, just true? No, I mean
look and look.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
For being a parent, I would argue one of the
most important things you do as a parent is teach
your kids to play the long game.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Get good grades in school.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Do you get immediate gratification because you make good grades
in school in eighth grade? Not necessarily. Do you get
immediate gratification for doing your homework every single night, for
showing up at class, for taking tough courses. Not immediately,
But you play the long game and overtime, good decisions
lead to better outcomes. And this is a big part,
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you know, candidly, of what I wrote about. And I'm
asking you to go buy the book, to buy the
book Balls. It's all about how do we raise better, younger,
more successful men. And this is something that I spend
a lot of time thinking about. And when I saw
these videos of these porch pirates, stealing all the candy.
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I couldn't help but think there's a lot of absent dads,
I bet, and moms, but particularly dads when it comes
to bad behavior by kids. So you got to be shameless.
The book is out tomorrow. I asked you in the
first hour I'm gonna talk about it tomorrow. Can you
drive this to the top ten best sellers on Amazon.
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That would mean a tremendous amount to me, all of
the proceeds going to charity. Just got to sell the
book is Balls. I'm holding it up on the video
feed from our New York City studio. You're going to
see me all over Fox News selling this book. But
it would mean a lot to me if you guys
would go buy a copy and give it to someone else.
Buy a copy for somebody that you think needs some
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balls in their life, either metaphorically speaking. Again, it's everywhere.
It's going to be in every bookstore. My name Clay Travis.
The book is Ball. Please go buy it. Buck's gonna
have a book out in uh in January.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I'm told the publisher is very happy. I bought a
copy of Balls.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I got Balls on the way.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
He got Balls on the way. His roommate who loves
Polish sausages told him, Hey, you might as well add
some balls to it too.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
You know, I'm gonna throw this out there because I
didn't want to. I didn't want to start this once again,
because he actually is a real roommate from the Chicago area.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
He also was a robe guy.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Which maybe is not surprising Polish sausage, this guy being
a robe guy.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I mean, I think that you know it would just
say it.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
He also would walk around our dorm room in h
in a row or you know, our dorm housing in
a robe all the time. So Polish sausage and robe
they can go hand in hand.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
You never know.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
We got an email rolling in here from a VIP
I thought this was funny. Matt Wright caught up yesterday
on the Sunday Hang. I encourage all of you. Sunday
Hang is fun, just like a not very serious. If
you're just looking for something to hang with, it's a
great name for it. Producer ally puts this together. I
have a bone to pick with you for two horrible
takes number one, and I'm gonna stand by these takes, Buck,
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but I want you to hear them. Chick fil A
biscuits are terrible, way too sweet. Your credibility took a
nose dive after hyping them up. I will go to
war that Chick fil A biscuits are amazing, and I
bet I have an entire army of people lining up
behind me. Matt, you're wrong on that second part.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Here.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
You grilled Buck on why he showered in a swimsuit
with his dog, Ginger after she rolled around in poop.
Paraphrasing Buck's response, I wanted to protect my man region
from dog peep dog poop. How about I don't want
to shower with my dog naked. That'd be a strange
thing to do. And then he comes after me, and
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then he comes after me. Hold on, Clay, love you man,
But after hearing your sentiment on nudity, you strike me
as one of the old guys at the gym who
chills in the locker room for way too long, strikes
up conversations with everyone while all caps fuck naked.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Cheers. Fella, keep up the good work.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I think it would. I think I understand your argument
for why you were in a swimsuit. I think it's
weirder to be in the shower with the dog in
a swimsuit.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Can we swim trunks? Can we call them swim trunks
or something? Or swim shorts?
Speaker 4 (29:22):
You know, swimsuit makes it sound like I'm wearing a
one piece in there, But yes, yes, swimsuit.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I don't think the dog would be troubled by your nudity.
And and maybe I I, I.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Well, may this may shock the collar. The dog is
naked when it sleeps in my bed every night. The
dog is constantly walking. The dog walks around my house
naked all the time. Doesn't even care, So I don't
think the dog minds. I'll also point this out. I'm
not a locker room naked guy, but I don't care
if people see me naked. Most of my life has
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been trying to get people to be willing to see
me naked as a single man. We have a new
house that we built.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
The window, the mirrors, I mean the uh the window
treatments are not in yet, and there are people building
across the street. I just walked through right naked. My
wife is like, oh my god, they're gonna see you.
Why do I care? It's all male construction workers. Now, she,
because she is a woman, is used to people trying
to see her naked, so she protects her nudity. I
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got no issues if people want to watch me as
I'm walking from my shower to go get my first
is not that exciting of a view for the construction guys.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Be running across like the room like trying to shield
myself like there's some like great scandal of minudity.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
So maybe I am the old actually blown right now?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Brian and Wooster, I said that Buck needs to prepare
himself for Gavin Newsom to be campaigning in the South
and suddenly debut a great and by great.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I mean ridiculous Southern accent. Uh.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
And I said we need a mixture between Keanu Reeves
and a guy from Mobile, Alabama. And Brian says he's
got a theory for you, Buck, on a little bit
of research.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Let's play. Ahh.
Speaker 7 (31:07):
If you want to hear what Keanu Reeves would sound
like if he was born in the South, all you
have to do is watch Devil's Advocate with him and Pacino,
one of the worst Southern accents ever put on film.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I think we have a clip of that, Buck. This
is what Keanu sounded like, actually, it was a pretty
good movie. I thought Devil's Advocate back in the day.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
I mean, there are a lot worse movies. But here's
what he sounded like.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
How about Cullen, how's it going? Have youth on beam?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
That's a long conversation. I want to come up and
tell me.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Now, let's talk tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
All right, So there's Keanu.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
You can go watch Devil's Advocates and I that was
a pretty bad Southern accent. I don't recall it. He's
an attorney JJ Don in Florida. I think he this
is the worst Southern accent in a movie. Don what
you got for us?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Hey, claym Buck, you want the war a Southern accent?
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Look at Nicholas Cage and con Air.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Nicholas Cage and con Air is a the bunned Down.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I remember that.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
It is an unbelievably awful Southern accent. It's not an
awful movie. I mean, given the premise.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I mean it's it's an absurd movie, but not an
awful movie. Right, That's that's yes, Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Like the premise is ridiculous and it shouldn't be as good.
I mean much like honestly, the uh, the movie about
the the oh, what's it called?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
The rock?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
The Rock from the nineteen nineties, the Alcatraz movie with
Sean Connery and Nicholas Cage is actually a really fun movie.
It's patently absurd in many differences talked to bottom. Yes,
yea possibly, but really a fun watch. And uh and
those are these let's uh, let's play this. Maybe we
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can talk about this a bit tomorrow, Buck. Karine Jean
Pierre has got a book out, I guess, and she's
doing all sorts of touring. And I want to roll
over a couple of these cuts. The other one, roll
it over, guys. But let's play this first one from
Karine Jean Pierre. She's asked whether she basically bears any
blame at all for Joe Biden. Listen to her answer.
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This is perfect watch Charin, Do you have any regrets
at all for anything that you said while you were
speaking on behalf of this administration.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Look, it's a simple answer.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
No, no, no, Because you're asking for answer, no question.
I want to put some context to it too. I
woke up every day, I woke up every day very
proud to be the White House Press secretary.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
I woke up every day.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
As a as a black woman who is queer, who
had never no one had ever seen someone like me
at that podium, standing behind that lecture. It was an
honor and a privilege to have that job, and I
did it to the best of my abilities.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Immediately going to no, you know, we covered up.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
We lied about a guy who had no business being
in the White House too. Oh well, let me talk
about the fact that I'm black and gay in case
you didn't know, rather than actually answer your question.
Speaker 8 (34:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
I think that her book is going over so poorly
that it actually has made one hundred and seven days
Kamala's book which you left me behind on the battlefield
to read solo, which was way harsh. I think that
Karine Jean Pierre's book is even more negatively received by
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Democrats than Kamala's book was, which tells you a lot
about the legacy of the Biden administration and why Kamala's
going to end up not running and becoming a provost
that Clay is going to owe me a stake
Weird.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Thankful for you on this Thanksgiving Day for being a
listener here on the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
You are listening to the best of Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Malcolm Gladwell probably, I think the most famous non fiction
celebrity author in America. Would you buy into that designation
in terms of book sells, I don't know that anybody
would have sold more copies than him.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
It's him and Michael Lewis probably for our to go
to the last twenty years or so, those would be
the two that I think are. I met him in France,
by the way, for the iHeart event, so I actually
met mister Gladwell for the first we shook hands.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I mean, he wouldn't you know, He.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Had no idea who I was like, hey man, yeah,
so yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
So I'm going to play a cut for him. I
imagine a lot of you have read his books. Tipping
Point is probably the most famous, but he's got a
ton of different books, and I think he has a
very popular podcast. So I would bet a huge percentage
of you are familiar with who Malcolm Gladwell is. So
let me take you behind the scenes a little bit.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Here.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I sold my company OutKick to Fox in twenty twenty one.
On Super Bowl Sunday twenty twenty one, we made two
million dollars in affiliate revenue for from FanDuel. That is
that Super Bowl Day. The company that I ran, we
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and founded. We were one of the top affiliates in
the entire country. So if you were watching Tom Brady
Tampa Bay Buccaneers go up against Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs,
our company and to a large extent me made more
money than anybody playing in that game. On sports gambling
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affiliate referral deals we were for FanDuel, which is the
biggest sports affiliate company sports gambling company in the country.
We were either their best or second best affiliate partner
in the country. Pat McAfee, who now is at ESPN,
was also wildly profitable for them. We were their too
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best at helping to promote and I love sports gambling obviously.
We've got a great relationship with Price Picks, which ties
in here with that. We made six seven million dollars
a year on that deal. That was important for us
as a part of the company sold the company. FanDuel
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said they wouldn't work with me anymore, Buck because I
was too outspoken on the trans sports issue. This is
a sports gambling company. They said Clay is too controversial
because he is saying men should not be competing in
women's sports, and FanDuel is worried about the controversy that
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he brings for being so outspoken on that issue. As
a result, FanDuel refused to work with me, and as
a result, refused to work withoutkick So me merely saying
men should not be able to compete in women's athletics
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cost the company that I founded and owned around seven
million dollars a year. I don't know how much money
you guys make, but seven million dollars a year for
a media company is a big, huge part of what
allows the company to be profitable to employ tons of people.
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But as a matter of principle, I said, I'm not
going to stop talking about this, even though FanDuel is saying, well,
you're too controversial for saying this. So the reason why
I give you that backstory is it was even though
it's one hundred percent the right thing to say, it
took hutzba It took sometimes turning away from millions of
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dollars to say what I personally believe to be true
and allow the company to be at the forefront of
arguing this.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Is no, no, no, no, no, no, not what you not
what you personally believe to be true, what is undeniably, unequivocally,
obviously and as clear as anything could be true, which
I think is important. You weren't penalized, Clay for an opinion.
You were penalized for a fact, which is a whole
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that is Soviet Union level stuff. That is everyone who's starving.
Say the grain harvest is the biggest grain harvest of
all time. That is a manufactured delusion, my friend.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
And if you wonder why did people not step up
against this across all of sports, only OutKick and really
only me at the at the forefront of this, we're
willing to make this argument. It's because the big advertising
partners out there would grab you by the you know
(04:54):
what and they would squeeze if you tried to step
out along. This is the truth. Nobody else will even
tell you this. I'm telling you directly. Okay, Malcolm Gladwell
came out. They have a big sports conference, sports analytics
conference at MIT, and they had a bunch of famous
(05:15):
uh Malcolm Gladwell has a connection to sports. He's a
big sports fan. He's done sports related reporting and stories.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
And he and everybody else on that panel at the
I think it's the Sloan Kettering Mit Institute or whatever,
refused to speak out against men competing in women's sports
because the consequences were real. What I just told you,
it could cost your company millions of dollars, It could
cost you personally millions of dollars. It could impact your employability.
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They were very targeted in the way that they attacked here.
And now he's come out, this just happened yesterday, and
Malcolm Gladwell says, Hey, I was bullied, I was cowed.
I was afraid of the consequences, and now I'm going
to tell you the truth. Men shouldn't be able to
compete in women's sports.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
To listen, if we did a replay of that exact
panel at the Sloan conference this coming March, it runs
in exactly the opposite direction, and it would be I
suspect near unanimity in the room that trans athletes have
no place in the female category. I don't think this
is any question. I just think it was a strange.
(06:25):
I mean, I felt. I mean the reason I'm ashamed
of my performance of that panel because I share your
position one hundred percent, and I was count the idea
of saying anything on this issue. I was in a
I believe in retrospect in a dishonest way.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
I was.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
I was objective in a dishonest way.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Okay, I give him credit for coming out and being
honest about this. I think this is so incredibly important
because there are consequences. Unfortunately, when you are willing to
speak the truth, your qualification is important there. This is
not This is not me arguing what the tax rate
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in Moldova should be, and we're sitting around and we're like, well,
you know, this is his Dudes are not chicks, and
chicks are not dudes, and pretending they are is a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
That is what this is.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Even in the world of sports, it's beyond that buck
because you're saying men don't have a competitive advantage, or
you're sitting around you're saying, well, we have to do studies.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
No, men are.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Bigger, stronger and faster than women, you know, but underlying
all of it, underlying all of it, and this has
to be remembered is that trans for example, and this
is usually what we're talking about in the sports context,
trans women are women indistinguishable and to be treated by
society and the law as women indistinguishable from women in
all respects, even though they're not women. That is the
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actual foundational mandatory belief of the trans movement, right is
that they transplate what is the phrase trans women are women? Yeah,
this is this is what they say. Trans women are women,
and that's why they should be able to play in
women's sports.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
That is a lie.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I think this is important though, and I see this everywhere,
and people who may not be involved in media, a
lot of you sit around you say, well, how did
this happen? It was if you were willing to speak
out on this issue. Advertisers said, I can't. I won't
work with this person anymore. And I'm talking about a
friggin sports gambling company. You think that it's a coincidence
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that that they're, of all companies that should be one
that recognized, hey, men and women's sports is ridiculous. They
actually pushed back and they said, even though you, Clay
and your company have made us tens of millions of dollars,
which we had objective reality you could look at and say, hey,
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people love this, they wouldn't spend money with us anymore.
And this is how they control what people say. Because
most people are not willing to give up the money.
They just pretend this story didn't exist. It wasn't that
everybody was as outspoken in as Gladwell is saying there.
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It was just that a lot of companies just pretended
this didn't happen, or they would say, as they still say, now,
I don't know why you care about that. Why you
even care? It doesn't happen that often. It's not that
big of it.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Well, this is always that. This is always the progression. Right,
it's not happening. It's not happening that much. Why do
you care? Okay, it's happening. It's happening a little bit.
Uh to, It's good, it's happening. Shut your face. We're
in charge now. And this is this is this was COVID,
this is trans this, this is that is the the
slippery slope of leftism in America today. It has to progressivism,
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it has to progress The argument always has to go
to the next level. And it's all based on lies,
because of course it is happening because they know what's happening,
and they know it's wrong, and they know they want
to do more of it, but they use an incrementalist
strategy to chip away at things and for gladwell become
out now, Clay, Yeah, because everything has changed now Now
you can say it.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Now you can actually because people like.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Me spoke out so hard and took the slings and arrows.
I will say, Buck, I give him some credit for
acknowledging he was wrong, because what a lot of people
are going to do is they're going to wait another
couple of years and they're gonna come They're gonna say, well,
everybody knew this was ridiculous all along, and then that
they never actually argue otherwise.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah. I mean that's particularly gross, right, But that will happen.
I think that is true.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Five years from now, there will not be a single
man in America who will say I ever thought it
was okay? Oh no, no, men pretending to be women
were competing. I disagree with that. There will be people, Clay.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
There are people that will take this to the very
end and they think that they can get a rebound
with this in time. All they have to do that
they think that they will find their way back into power,
back into the culture. Twenty percent of the country is
never going to abandon this. Twenty percent of the country
is certifiably insane. I mean they think the common Harris
was a good candidate and Joe Biden's brain was working.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
These people are nuts.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Well I say this, I mean people who are actual
sports fans, right, because I understand on some level, if
you stay, if you don't know anything about sports and
you think, like, hey, maybe Serena Williams is better than
Roger Federer at tennis, maybe they should play and maybe
the woman would win, I actually give them a pass
because they're so clueless on the difference of biology. But
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any man, I mean this honestly, any man who has
ever played a high school, college, and certainly a pro
sport knows that the idea of men being able to
compete in women's sports was on its face, laughably absurd.
And where it matters is if they can get you
to argue that, or if they can get you to
stay silent on that, they can keep advancing the the
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the left wing agenda because they've cowed you into silence.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yeah, well, and you've you've basically become complicit in your
own cowardice and your own silencing. And if they can
get you to say something that's that crazy, they can
get you to say anything. That's the whole point. If
they can get you to believe this, they can get
you to believe that you know that the sky is purple,
and you know the earth is flat, and you name it.
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And that's that's a very powerful tool of psychological manipulation,
because it's degrading. When the state or when society forces
you to mouth a lie, to say the slogans that
they demand that you know are false, it degrades you psychologically.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah. The point.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
They do this in all totalitarian regimes, by the way,
and they do it purposefully.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
And let me say this too. I think the one
thing I will say additionally in favor of Gladwell is this,
I think America would be far better if we all
acknowledge when we get things wrong. I don't think that
anybody out there listening expects for you or me to
get everything right. I think when we claim that we
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never get anything wrong, it actually delegitimizes the things that
we get right. And I do think Malcolm Gladwell coming
out and saying yes, it's convenient now. Yes, the consequences
and the stakes and the punishment for being on the
quote unquote wrong side of the ledger on this issue
are much de minimized because we won this battle so far.
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But I do think being willing to acknowledge we've said it.
Like I said it was gonna be a red tsunami
in twenty twenty two. Didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I had to wear it like I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Now, we got a lot right about the twenty twenty
four election, But I don't think people out there trusted
us less because you got something wrong, because everybody gets
things wrong.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Well, that's a prediction too. Yeah, there's a difference between
a prediction, which is inherently uncertain, and telling a lie. Yes,
one goes to analysis and nobody's perfect. Another goes to
you're selling out, and a lot of people. I will
tell you almost everyone sold out. I won't name them
because I don't. People can always, even people on the
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other side, if they asked to speak me in confidence,
I keep I keep confidence. I know some prominent democrats
in the media, Clay who would say to me offline, oh,
the trance thing is crazy, but the agenda's crazy. But
I can't say it because my side would eat me alive. Yep,
welcome back in here.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
To Clay and Buck. Let's take some talkbacks.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Hear from all of you all across this great land
of ours. We've got Ken who listens in Lincoln, Nebraska,
d D on the talkback hit It.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
Don't be hating on people who sports the robe. Yes,
it is a lifestyle. I'm retiring. Well, I'm not a
retiring pastor. I'm still a pastor, but I'm about to retire.
I'm an avid fly fisherman, have built several poles, So
don't be hating. Good show. Have a blessed one.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Thank you, you have a blessed one too. I don't usually
think of robe guys as also fly fishermen, but.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
That is a bit of a that is a bit
of an upset, like if he had been like and
I'm also into smoking pot and and you know, wearing
Birkenstocks yours, smoking pot and orgies.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
That's kind of what I think about for a rogue guy.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
So I've also I've noticed something, probably because of all
the lot of all the young people walking around trick
or treating, there is This is very unk of me,
which is how you wearing an unk T shirt.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I am Ali got me an unk T shirt.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Bunk and owning it.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So that's a word that the youth uses.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
But I've noticed something that the kids, like thirteen to sixteen,
they're wearing crocks. Un ironically.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Oh yeah, the shoe was popular. Crocs.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
And their hairstyle is this like poofy in the front
thing like it's like unkempt, kind of like like wavy curly.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
This is the hairy boy. I think my boys have this.
I mean exactly what you're saying. If you had them
come over to the camera, I can tell you. But
I can tell you they're all these kids walking around
with the same hair. It's a very unique hairstyle. Yes,
and that they're rocking. Crocs are and have been for
several years now, insanely popular with young kids, like teenage
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teenage kids. I thought you were going to say, well,
hold on, let's play Renee in Kentucky who wanted to
react to the idea of all this candy being stolen.
Speaker 8 (16:17):
If my son had ever dumped a bowl of candy
and his bag, I would have busted his ass on
the spot. He would have had to apologize as well
as do community service work for that neighbor. That's how
that goes. Anyone else that would do something different is
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low class.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Rena, you are someone who is holding a line on
civilization and I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Renee is very civilized. Buck, I love that.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
And yeah, if you happened to see your kid on
one of those viral videos, I think you should make
a video of the kid oologizing and make them go
knock on the door and buy candy, maybe do some
yard work to make up for the candy that he took. Hey,
I'm Clay Travis and I'm Buck Sexton. You know what
we're thankful for this year?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
All of you. That's right.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
We have the best radio audience in the country, hands down.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Sending a big, warm and happy Thanksgiving from the Clay
and Buck Show.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
And there are tons of videos that are going viral
of the so called, you know, sort of Halloween porch
pirates on Friday, the number of people that left out treats.
This happened even in my own neighborhood. Some my wife
was showing me some of these videos and kids a
lot of times, teenagers frankly who sometimes make as all
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of you well remember, moronic decisions, but also parents that
are involved here and right off the top, we had
our last Halloween in the Travis House. We have been
in the same house for a decade. I just posted
a photo gave out seventeen bottles of fireball shots to
all the moms and dads the neighborhood that we lived
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in in Franklin, Tennessee. I can say it now, I
think I don't know that I ever said it before.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
West Haven.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
You've been there, buck one of the greatest neighborhoods I
think in the entirety of the United States. After a decade,
are moving, not going to do Halloween there anymore. But
Halloween has been phenomenal thanks to everybody who has been
so great to my family for over a decade of
living there. Super sad yesterday when I left, because you know,
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you raise your family in a house at some point
you're going to be in this experience. You got a
six month old we moved into that house. My youngest
was in in a crib. He now is in fifth grade.
So it's just been in a tremendous experience there. I
would describe where I lived as, generally speaking, a high
trust community where everybody looks after everybody else's kids, and
(18:54):
it's a fantastic place to live as a result, And
everybody comes around and mostly with parents. You take one
little piece of candy at a time. But as you
see all of these different stories about these ring cameras
and everybody coming along and just dumping the entire thing
into their bag, I do think this is culture, buck,
(19:18):
and when you lose culture, you lose the country. And
it might sound small, but I do think it's a
metaphor of a low trust society that unfortunately exists in
much of America now.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
But we're just talking about the circulation of videos all
over the country. Remember these are usually with parents present.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
That's the part. That's the part that I think is people.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
So there are parents who are watching their kids. Now,
now let's like work through this process for a second.
They're watching their children maybe you know, eleven, twelve, thirteen.
It's really not like young kids that are doing this.
It's not five year olds. It's you know, ten, eleven, twelve,
thirteen year olds, maybe fourteen year olds that are just
(20:05):
pillaging the take one piece of candy for yourself. Why
is that the rule or why is that the request
so that other people can get their candy?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Right? It's very and also you see these kids.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
It's not like they're taking a handful and we're saying, oh,
they're only supposed to take one. Okay, a handful's fine.
No one's got a problem with that. There are videos
with parents watching, okay, the parents of these kids where
they take like the candy bowl and they dump the
whole thing, yes, you know, five pounds of candy. They
dump it into their bag and they're kind of laughing
(20:38):
and gleeful about this and then they, you know, hurriedly
walk away and.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
It's just a disgrace. It's disgusting.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
And you know, this is one of these things you
see what you see. You know, we're in this era
where there's video of that over the place and everywhere
of everything, and uh, you know, people, we should bring
back shame a little bit in this country. Like if
you're doing this stuff and people know and your neighbors know, like,
you should feel ashamed. I agree, it should be shamed.
(21:07):
You should apologize. You know, there's all these I remember
even near me where there was all the theft going
on Clay There was a grocery store near me that
had the photos of the of the repeat shoplifters, and
there have been efforts to sue them. How dare you
and you know you're not allowed to show this. It's like,
why are people okay with this? This is this should
(21:27):
be something that we all are are clearly against and
it's just a shame that it's something that should be
as joyful and innocent as you know Halloween trick or treating.
There are people who are being really gross about the
whole thing, a lot of them by it. If this
isn't like one person, there's a lot of this going on. No,
I think totally.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
And people can say, well, what's the significance you know
of this? I do think it is representative of low
trust in culture. And I talked about in Chicago, dad
and daughter going out trick or treating. Dad pulls up
in a car and instantly the car gets stolen. Somebody
runs up with a gun, puts it in his face,
(22:08):
just trying to take the little girl out trick or treating.
And I do think that what you will see likely
occur is the parents that are allowing this to happen,
and even encouraging it to happen. Have raised kids that
are gonna have a lot of issues in the years
ahead because they have lost the ability to interact in
(22:28):
an honest culture. And to your point, teenagers do stupid things,
and so to me, the parents watching it and even
encouraging it is a substantial part of this. But I
think it speaks also to and I know there are
strict moms, but we had a big conversation about this.
I think it speaks also to a lot of times
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dads are enforcers in households, you know, particularly young men boys.
They respond to dad as a household influencer more than
they do to mom. That doesn't mean that moms out
there aren't often forced to do incredible job both raising,
trying to play the role of both parents because a
(23:12):
lot of men are absent. But this reminds me Buck
of do you remember the big study they did. This
is why I think it would be true if you
could run out for years. One of the best signs
of your ability to succeed in life is can you
defer rewards? And they have that great is the like
either it's a donut or a cookie, marshmallows was the
(23:35):
initial one they tell you for those of you haven't
seen this study, and they actually have funny videos of
this of little kids trying to avoid a treat, right
and they basically come in and they say, hey, if
you can wait a certain amount of time, will give
you two. And so there's a treat on the table
and it's sometimes a cookie donut. I think it started
(23:57):
with marshmallows, and they'll be like, hey, little if you
can wait, then we'll give you double. And what they
have been able to find is the kids that are
able to defer the reward have overwhelmingly higher levels of
success than the kids who take the immediate gratification in
front of them. And to me, this is a sign
(24:20):
of that, right, hey, you're still going to get a
lot of candy. I mean, my son came home with
a whole a pillowcase full of candy. But you have
to put in the time to go from one house
to another, or you can run up and dump the
whole thing in at once. I think you're going to
see that the life results are actually negative for the
(24:40):
kids that are doing this.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
There's also very clear, very clear data on delaying gratification
and IQ level. So now you start to get it
to this part of the conversation as well. Higher IQ
corresponds directly with a greater likelihood to be willing to
delay gratification for better reward. So this is true. Any
(25:04):
of you can, you can check this out. Dumber people
want it right now? Yeah, just true? No, I mean
look and look.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
For being a parent, I would argue one of the
most important things you do as a parent is teach
your kids to play the long game.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Get good grades in school.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Do you get immediate gratification because you make good grades
in school in eighth grade? Not necessarily. Do you get
immediate gratification for doing your homework every single night, for
showing up at class, for taking tough courses. Not immediately,
But you play the long game and overtime, good decisions
lead to better outcomes. And this is a big part,
(25:46):
you know, candidly, of what I wrote about. And I'm
asking you to go buy the book, to buy the
book Balls. It's all about how do we raise better, younger,
more successful men. And this is something that I spend
a lot of time thinking about. And when I saw
these videos of these porch pirates, stealing all the candy.
(26:08):
I couldn't help but think there's a lot of absent dads,
I bet, and moms, but particularly dads when it comes
to bad behavior by kids. So you got to be shameless.
The book is out tomorrow. I asked you in the
first hour I'm gonna talk about it tomorrow. Can you
drive this to the top ten best sellers on Amazon.
(26:28):
That would mean a tremendous amount to me, all of
the proceeds going to charity. Just got to sell the
book is Balls. I'm holding it up on the video
feed from our New York City studio. You're going to
see me all over Fox News selling this book. But
it would mean a lot to me if you guys
would go buy a copy and give it to someone else.
Buy a copy for somebody that you think needs some
(26:49):
balls in their life, either metaphorically speaking. Again, it's everywhere.
It's going to be in every bookstore. My name Clay Travis.
The book is Ball. Please go buy it. Buck's gonna
have a book out in uh in January.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I'm told the publisher is very happy. I bought a
copy of Balls.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I got Balls on the way.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
He got Balls on the way. His roommate who loves
Polish sausages told him, Hey, you might as well add
some balls to it too.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
You know, I'm gonna throw this out there because I
didn't want to. I didn't want to start this once again,
because he actually is a real roommate from the Chicago area.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
He also was a robe guy.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Which maybe is not surprising Polish sausage, this guy being
a robe guy.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I mean, I think that you know it would just
say it.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
He also would walk around our dorm room in h
in a row or you know, our dorm housing in
a robe all the time. So Polish sausage and robe
they can go hand in hand.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
You never know.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
We got an email rolling in here from a VIP
I thought this was funny. Matt Wright caught up yesterday
on the Sunday Hang. I encourage all of you. Sunday
Hang is fun, just like a not very serious. If
you're just looking for something to hang with, it's a
great name for it. Producer ally puts this together. I
have a bone to pick with you for two horrible
takes number one, and I'm gonna stand by these takes, Buck,
(28:04):
but I want you to hear them. Chick fil A
biscuits are terrible, way too sweet. Your credibility took a
nose dive after hyping them up. I will go to
war that Chick fil A biscuits are amazing, and I
bet I have an entire army of people lining up
behind me. Matt, you're wrong on that second part.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Here.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
You grilled Buck on why he showered in a swimsuit
with his dog, Ginger after she rolled around in poop.
Paraphrasing Buck's response, I wanted to protect my man region
from dog peep dog poop. How about I don't want
to shower with my dog naked. That'd be a strange
thing to do. And then he comes after me, and
(28:46):
then he comes after me. Hold on, Clay, love you man,
But after hearing your sentiment on nudity, you strike me
as one of the old guys at the gym who
chills in the locker room for way too long, strikes
up conversations with everyone while all caps fuck naked.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Cheers. Fella, keep up the good work.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I think it would. I think I understand your argument
for why you were in a swimsuit. I think it's
weirder to be in the shower with the dog in
a swimsuit.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Can we swim trunks? Can we call them swim trunks
or something? Or swim shorts?
Speaker 4 (29:22):
You know, swimsuit makes it sound like I'm wearing a
one piece in there, But yes, yes, swimsuit.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I don't think the dog would be troubled by your nudity.
And and maybe I I, I.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Well, may this may shock the collar. The dog is
naked when it sleeps in my bed every night. The
dog is constantly walking. The dog walks around my house
naked all the time. Doesn't even care, So I don't
think the dog minds. I'll also point this out. I'm
not a locker room naked guy, but I don't care
if people see me naked. Most of my life has
(29:53):
been trying to get people to be willing to see
me naked as a single man. We have a new
house that we built.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
The window, the mirrors, I mean the uh the window
treatments are not in yet, and there are people building
across the street. I just walked through right naked. My
wife is like, oh my god, they're gonna see you.
Why do I care? It's all male construction workers. Now, she,
because she is a woman, is used to people trying
to see her naked, so she protects her nudity. I
(30:21):
got no issues if people want to watch me as
I'm walking from my shower to go get my first
is not that exciting of a view for the construction guys.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Be running across like the room like trying to shield
myself like there's some like great scandal of minudity.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
So maybe I am the old actually blown right now?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Brian and Wooster, I said that Buck needs to prepare
himself for Gavin Newsom to be campaigning in the South
and suddenly debut a great and by great.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I mean ridiculous Southern accent. Uh.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
And I said we need a mixture between Keanu Reeves
and a guy from Mobile, Alabama. And Brian says he's
got a theory for you, Buck, on a little bit
of research.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Let's play. Ahh.
Speaker 7 (31:07):
If you want to hear what Keanu Reeves would sound
like if he was born in the South, all you
have to do is watch Devil's Advocate with him and Pacino,
one of the worst Southern accents ever put on film.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I think we have a clip of that, Buck. This
is what Keanu sounded like, actually, it was a pretty
good movie. I thought Devil's Advocate back in the day.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
I mean, there are a lot worse movies. But here's
what he sounded like.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
How about Cullen, how's it going? Have youth on beam?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
That's a long conversation. I want to come up and
tell me.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Now, let's talk tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
All right, So there's Keanu.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
You can go watch Devil's Advocates and I that was
a pretty bad Southern accent. I don't recall it. He's
an attorney JJ Don in Florida. I think he this
is the worst Southern accent in a movie. Don what
you got for us?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Hey, claym Buck, you want the war a Southern accent?
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Look at Nicholas Cage and con Air.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Nicholas Cage and con Air is a the bunned Down.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I remember that.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
It is an unbelievably awful Southern accent. It's not an
awful movie. I mean, given the premise.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I mean it's it's an absurd movie, but not an
awful movie. Right, That's that's yes, Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Like the premise is ridiculous and it shouldn't be as good.
I mean much like honestly, the uh, the movie about
the the oh, what's it called?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
The rock?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
The Rock from the nineteen nineties, the Alcatraz movie with
Sean Connery and Nicholas Cage is actually a really fun movie.
It's patently absurd in many differences talked to bottom. Yes,
yea possibly, but really a fun watch. And uh and
those are these let's uh, let's play this. Maybe we
(32:58):
can talk about this a bit tomorrow, Buck. Karine Jean
Pierre has got a book out, I guess, and she's
doing all sorts of touring. And I want to roll
over a couple of these cuts. The other one, roll
it over, guys. But let's play this first one from
Karine Jean Pierre. She's asked whether she basically bears any
blame at all for Joe Biden. Listen to her answer.
(33:20):
This is perfect watch Charin, Do you have any regrets
at all for anything that you said while you were
speaking on behalf of this administration.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Look, it's a simple answer.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
No, no, no, Because you're asking for answer, no question.
I want to put some context to it too. I
woke up every day, I woke up every day very
proud to be the White House Press secretary.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
I woke up every day.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
As a as a black woman who is queer, who
had never no one had ever seen someone like me
at that podium, standing behind that lecture. It was an
honor and a privilege to have that job, and I
did it to the best of my abilities.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Immediately going to no, you know, we covered up.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
We lied about a guy who had no business being
in the White House too. Oh well, let me talk
about the fact that I'm black and gay in case
you didn't know, rather than actually answer your question.
Speaker 8 (34:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
I think that her book is going over so poorly
that it actually has made one hundred and seven days
Kamala's book which you left me behind on the battlefield
to read solo, which was way harsh. I think that
Karine Jean Pierre's book is even more negatively received by
(34:35):
Democrats than Kamala's book was, which tells you a lot
about the legacy of the Biden administration and why Kamala's
going to end up not running and becoming a provost
that Clay is going to owe me a stake
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