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December 2, 2025 36 mins

Hour 3 of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show continues with high-stakes political drama and breaking news as the Venezuelan drug boat strike controversy dominates headlines. The hour opens with updates from President Trump’s marathon cabinet meeting, which lasted over two hours and was broadcast live on major networks. Secretary of War Pete Hegseth addressed the September 2 strike on a narco-terrorist vessel, defending the decision to “eliminate the threat” and dismantle cartel operations responsible for flooding the U.S. with fentanyl. Hegseth blasted the Washington Post for publishing what he called “fake stories” about alleged kill orders, stressing the reality of the fog of war and reaffirming that commanders acted lawfully under the Law of Armed Conflict. Clay and Buck analyze the legal and strategic implications, warning that Democrats and the media are using this narrative to delegitimize Hegseth and weaken Trump’s foreign policy as part of a broader impeachment strategy.

The discussion expands to Venezuela, raising questions about whether Maduro’s removal signals a deeper U.S. commitment to regime change and intervention. Clay and Buck emphasize Trump’s aggressive stance against narco-terrorists as a national security imperative, contrasting deterrence with appeasement. They argue that clear, consistent messaging from the administration could neutralize the controversy and prevent political fallout. Listener calls add fiery energy to the hour, with viral moments like Linda’s blunt declaration—“When in doubt, take ’em out”—sparking debate over rules of engagement and ethics in warfare. Other callers draw parallels to historic military actions, from the Bin Laden raid to naval confrontations with Iran, fueling a lively discussion on legality, morality, and public perception.

The hour also shifts to domestic politics, urging Tennessee voters to turn out for the special election in the 7th Congressional District. Senator Marsha Blackburn joins the show to rally support for Republican candidate Matt Van Epps and warns against Democratic efforts to flip the seat. Blackburn addresses critical issues beyond the election, including Big Tech’s exploitation of children and her push for the Kids Online Safety Act, the fallout from Biden’s Afghan withdrawal and vetting failures, and explosive revelations about DOJ surveillance targeting eight GOP senators and conservative organizations. She details how subpoenas and secret monitoring violated constitutional protections, calling for accountability and disbarment of officials involved.

Hour 3 closes with sharp commentary on civil liberties, election integrity, and the political weaponization of government power, reinforcing the show’s central theme: defending transparency, security, and conservative values in the face of media bias and institutional overreach.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show, all of
you hanging.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Out with us.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
This is still live, right if I'm not mistaken, The
White House Cabinet meeting has now been going on, Buck.
For the entirety of our radio show, we are competing
with the Trump Show head to heads.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's another radio show, Clinn, That's really what it is.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Trump has been doing over two hours straight along with
his cabinet taking questions. It does feel to some extent
Buck like this is a response to The New York
Times saying that he doesn't have the vitality and the
vigor that he used to.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Maybe I'm wrong on this, But then a couple of.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Days later, he's like, all right, let's just do a
three hour potentially press conference that Fox News has been
carrying straight through and even CNN now has elected to
go live to Trump. So we're continuing to monitor that.
I just sent a couple of clips to producer Greg

(01:06):
as Hegseth has weighed in more on the on the
boat strike off Venezuela, which evidently Buck happened September second,
So this was one of the earliest strikes that occurred
on the boats. I do think that matters here. I
don't know that we've given a date, but he did

(01:26):
in his answer, which we will have soon.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Vote Go vote, Go vote.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
If you are in the seventh congressional district in the
state of Tennessee, it is election day.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I went this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
I took my fifth grader to school, I dropped him off,
and then I went into the polling place right there
at his school. My wife is working all day at
as a volunteer at this local polling center. I think
I mentioned this before, Buck, But you know Laura quite well.
She was really fired up at the overall security issues

(02:06):
associated with elections, and so she said, well, heck, I
want to see this for myself. So she decided that
she would volunteer and watch as the election is taking
place here locally. By the way, President Trump standing up
right now, we are no longer competing with the Trump Show.
He has just walked out after a marathon two plus

(02:27):
hour session with his cabinet, and it is just now
breaking up in real time. All right, this is funny,
Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, Buck. There are many different,
super serious stories that are going on, but you know,
I trust college football fans implicitly. In addition to everything

(02:52):
else that was discussed, Marco Rubio came out and said,
if the Miami Hurricanes, your new home town team, buck,
if they're not in the playoff, he's furious and he's
gonna put President Trump in charge of next year's playoff.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
This is funny.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
This did just happen, among many other things in the
in the cabinet meeting.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Listen to this, and.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
I know I'm last, so I wanted to be fast,
but there was allowed to cover. I do want to say,
this is the most wonderful, magical time of the year.
By that, of course, I'm referring to the college football playoffs.
And I just want to say this as a point
of personal privilege. If and I'm on Florida Gator but
at the University of Miami gets screwed out of the
college with the football playoffs after going ten and two
and being a Notre dame, the whole thing should be

(03:38):
scrapped and you're gonna have to take over it next year.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Marco better watch out. He could get another job. Maybe
he becomes like SEC commissioner or something. In addition to
I think keys Secretary of State National Security advisor USAID director.
The Marco portfolio is a remarkable thing to behold. Your
wife is a Florida Gator grad. Marco Rubio's son is

(04:06):
a football player for the Florida Gators. So I was
actually texting with him over the weekend, nothing at all
to do with serious things, just about the college football
coaching searches going on. Marco Rubio is doing a fantastic job,
but so many different topics. I did think it was
funny that he decided that he wanted to weigh in

(04:27):
on that, because Marco Rubio is a Miami guy, big
college football fan, which is one reason we get along
so well. Do we have from producer Greg yet the
clip that I sent in of heg Seth giving more details.
It's not in yet, Buck, Okay, we will have. This
is the lead story now for people out there who
are saying, what are you doing here? Why are you
talking about this? The lead story everywhere? We want to

(04:49):
make sure that we're addressing it well.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News basically all covering this as
the top news story of the day.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah. Well, because the implications of this, first of all,
aren't just about the attempts to undermine an attack headset,
and with him this administration. There's also this issue of
what this does to Venezuela, and increasingly we have what
seems to be a de facto regime change policy in place. Now.

(05:24):
Regime change in nation building are not necessarily things that
go hand in hand, but they often do. And so
this is going to start to bring up some very
important and difficult conversations. I think if Maduro goes. But
here we have Secretary Hegset just moments ago getting into
the details of this strike that has been widely reported on.

(05:46):
Let's listen to the Secretary of War. I didn't stick
around for the hour and two hours.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
Whatever where all the sensitive side exploitation digitally occurs.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
So I'm moving on to my next meeting.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
A couple of hours later, I learned that that commander
had made which the complete authority to do. And by
the way, Edward Bradley made the correct decision to ultimately.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Sink the boat and eliminate the threat.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
He stunked the boat, sunk the boat.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
And eliminated the threat, and he was the right call.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
We have his back and the American people are safer
because narco terrorists no you can't bring drugs through the
water and eventually on land if necessary, I have to
do to the American people. We will eliminate that threat,
and we're proud to do it.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
So you didn't see any survivors, to be clear, after.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
The first strut, I did not personally see survivors, but
I stand because the thing was on fire, that was exploded.
In fire smoke, you can't see anything you got digital.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
There's this is called the fog of war. This is
what you and the press don't understand.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
You sit in Americ conditioned offices or up on Capitol
Hill and you nit pick, and you plant fake stories
in the Washington Post about kill everybody, phrases on anonymous sources,
not based in anything, not based in any truth at all,
and then you want to throw really irresponsible terms about
American heroes, about the judgment that they've made.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Iver a whole book on this topic.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
Because of what politicians and the press does to warfighters,
President Trump is empowered commanders, commanders to do what is necessary,
which is dark and difficult things in the dead of
night on behalf of the American people. We support them,
and we will stop the poisoning of the American people.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Okay, that's a better answer.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
I still think, and this is the lawyer in me, buck,
I want a clear, concise, direct description of what the
admiral did. And it may be the case that they
haven't talked in detail about this decision, but that would
help to end this story.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I believe once and for all. It's hard to sound
objective talking about Pete because you and I both know
Pete and or we're personally friends with Pete. I've known
Pete now for almost fifteen years. So I just I
say that because I think we need to be honest
about where we come from, especially talking with some of

(08:03):
these public figures we know on a personal level. And
I know Pete loves the country, and I know he
loves the war fighters in the United States military like
his own family, and so I bring all of that
to this discussion too, all right. That said, I think
that the problem that he's running into here a little

(08:23):
bit clay, is when you start to say things again,
I'm looking at this like the enemy here in the media,
which he's addressing very clearly. He's saying, you guys are
a bunch of jerks that don't understand anything. But when
he says things like fog of war, that they're going
to take that now and say so you don't know
if there were survivors or not. That's what they're that's

(08:44):
the next stage.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Now.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I think in this process it went from the order
to kill survivors to now you're saying fog of war again.
I understand from the very beginnings, you know, need to
call in and say what he did is totally lawful.
I believe that Pete Hegseth and the and the jaysok
Here Joint Special Operations Command. I think they operated in
a lawful fashion. I am just saying the way this

(09:07):
is turning into a story is leaving bits of daylight
here with the facts as presented, the narrative as constructed
from the top of the of the Pentagon hierarchy. And
when you say things like, you know, fog of war,
I get it. I know what he's saying. But they're
going to say so you don't even know if there

(09:28):
were you know, there was smoke, you know, there could
have been survivors. You know, this is the next this
is the next phase of it, I think totally. And
this is why I say, and this is me speaking
as a former criminal defense attorney.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Your story has to be consistent, and you have to
stick to it, and you have to put it out there,
and it has to be ironclad in terms of you
being able to prove.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
What exactly it is.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
And I just think the story of we had to
hit the boat a second time because it had not
been completely obliterated and there were still drugs there, and
they could have brought another boat in and gotten those
drugs off, and they could have still come to the
United States. The purpose of the mission was to ensure
that that boat is completely obliterated and there are no

(10:18):
drugs that survived the attack. The first attack it did,
we put in a second one. That's what happened. I
don't know anything about the people that were on the boat. Frankly,
I don't care about them, because they were terrorists trying
to kill people in the United States. They may have survived,
they may not have, but I know that boat didn't
and the drugs are gone. That's my answer. That's a
pretty good one. I wish it had been given. Yeah,

(10:39):
I stopped the threat.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
This is a threat that's identified, a threat that we
can lawfully use the United States military to address and
Secretary of War heeg Seth and those below him in
the chain of command who were directly involved in the strike.
They were operating to stop the threat against the American people.
And if two missiles is what are required to stop
the threatreat, then that is what it required. But this

(11:02):
is why, again, you know, the specificity of the same
thing in a self defense case. If somebody came at
me clay in my own home, which would be a
very bad idea because I do have a lot of
guns here and I am pretty trained up these days.
But if somebody came at me in my own home
and I put one in him, and then they say, well,
why did you why did you actually unload your whole

(11:23):
magazine into this person who's coming at you, let's say,
with a knife or something, I would say, because in
the moment, that's what I believe to stop the threat
against my life. That's the answer. Yes, right, it doesn't
whether it's one bullet or ten bullets. I acted to
stop the threat against me and my family. What you
don't want to get into is, well, I hit him
five times, but then I thought, you know what, I

(11:44):
got to get some headshots in here to make sure
he's not moving anymore. You don't want to, in a
self defense situation say anything like that. This is those
of you. You don't have to know law of war
necessarily to understand how this. When you're talking about use
of force, you got to be very specific about why
you're using that. For z and I've sat through the classes,

(12:04):
I've sat through the discussion we had this in the CIA.
We had to have conversations about lethal force.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Right.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
This is you have to understand what the framework is.
We're using violence against another human being.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Always, the threat wasn't eliminated with the first strike, so
we had to have a second strike to eliminate the threat.
This is not very complicated. But again, when they start
nitpicking at you, I appreciate the fact that Pete recognizes
he's the target here. Somebody, I think this is important,
leaked probably very classified information to a large extent to

(12:39):
the Washington Post, which may or may not be accurate.
But somebody obviously has Pete as the target here. They're
attempting to come after him, the admiral and the president.
I mean, their intent here matters, And so again I
think you have to eliminate this story to the best

(13:00):
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Speaker 2 (15:35):
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Speaker 1 (15:36):
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Speaker 2 (15:41):
Linda called in. I was like, well, Sureley, Linda.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
You know, if they're like treading water and hanging on
to the side of a boat, you wouldn't want to
just machine gun them, would you?

Speaker 2 (15:48):
And Linda cut thirty six.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Linda said, took a dragon, said nukem Uh listen.

Speaker 7 (15:54):
Who cares about the two guys in the water. They
were bad guys.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Oh yeah, you bad guys. You got guys. You gotta
take out the bad guys, no question. There's a lot
of people in the audience that are like I, I
love lovely. They want they want Linda to be their
local sheriff. Yeah, guys, get no quarter. Linda.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
If she had kids and the kids were like, I'm
a little tired. I don't feel that good. I don't
want to go to school. Linda's like getting the car,
just driving with the will the windows rolled up, dragging,
taking drags of her cigarettes everywhere. Everybody's like, I can't
how did Linda start start becoming a marble red smoker.
She just reminds me that you remember back in the day,

(16:37):
nobody smokes anymore, basically, but you be in the car
with a mom and she was kind of a tough mom,
and she'd be taking a drag on a cigarette and
it'd be like twenty eight degrees outside, so she'd just
occasionally roll down the window and you'd be like, I
can't breathe, mom, and she'd be.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Like, you'll be fine. That's Linda, you know, just poke them. Yeah,
that she she made very clear her feelings on these things,
that is for sure. We've had a fair amount of
that too. VIP email from Joe Back in the day
when Iran was blocking tankers going through the Strait of Hormuz.
Being in the navy, we fired upon Iranian boats, plus
the Iranians were taken over oil platforms and firing at

(17:13):
US ships. We didn't wait until we saw the whites
of their eyes. We shelled them. Period. Yeah, no, Joe,
I mean interesting perspective, but clearly Iranian warships getting getting
blown up by are shot at by American warships is
a long established and well understood part of this equation.
This is a little different, a little different, and just

(17:35):
trying to make sure we're all clear on this. I
keep saying, I just want to clarify right that if
there are people clinging to wreckage, we don't machine gun them.
And everyon's like yeah, yeah, yeah, but I mean if
they're really bad guys, Ah, that's the Linda met I
don't know about it. I don't know about that. I
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for details. Welcome back in here, everybody. We are joined
by Senator Marsha Blackburn. Center. Blackburn always appreciates you being

(19:03):
with us and.

Speaker 7 (19:05):
It is always so good to join you. Thank you
so much.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
First off, can you just speak to some politics going
on in your home state, the seventh congressional district you
got a looney leftist trying to sneak a congressional seed.
And what is not just a red area of the
wonderful state of Tennessee center Blackburn, but also Clay's backyard,
like I think his yard is in fact considered part

(19:29):
of the district. What can you tell us about this
race today?

Speaker 7 (19:33):
Well, indeed, and we need everybody to get out and vote,
that is for sure. And these off year special elections
sometimes they get a little funky on you. And what
you have are Democrats that are very excited. They saw
what they thought were big victories in blue areas and

(19:58):
so now they're trying to California Tennessee and are putting
a lot of energy in that today. But Matt Van
Epps is a good, solid candidate. He is going to win.
He is going to be an outstanding member of the
US House. He has wonderful experience and a record of service,

(20:23):
a good solid record of service for the people of
Tennessee and for this nation, his military service, his business expertise,
the way he served Governor Lee in his cabinet, And
I know that Matt is going to bring that fighting
spirit to work on the issues of cost of living
and access to affordable health care and really getting the

(20:48):
country back on track. You know, Joe Biden and the
Democrats raised taxes, they ran up the cost of health care.
Inflation was at nine point one percent, and President Trump
and Republicans are trying to get everything back on track.
Matt Vanipps is going to do a good job doing that,

(21:08):
and the people of Tennessee support President Trump and his agenda.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
We're talking to Senator Marshall Blackburn, she is also running
for governor of Tennessee. She's telling all of you to
get out in the seventh Congressional district all the way
from Fort Campbell up on the border with Kentucky, all
the way down south with Alabama. Nashville included part of
Davidson County, Franklin, Williamson County, Brentwood, all points in between.

(21:35):
You also are a mom and a grandma and you
have a USA Today editorial piece up about the lack
of protection for young people online. And I know in
social media era, there's a lot of mom's, dads, grandma's,
grandpa's out there that are deeply concerned about this. What
have you uncovered, what do people need to know and

(21:57):
what should happen going.

Speaker 7 (21:58):
Forward, Yes, and 'p ed is at Time dot com.
And this is work that we have done on the
Kids Online Safety Act. And I was just on the
phone talking with a house colleague, Catchemick out of Florida,
and she and I have several of these bills together. Look,

(22:18):
big tech uses our children as a cash cow, and
when kids are online, they are the product. And we've
been trying to pass legislation that would protect children in
the virtual space, just as we have laws in the
physical space that says you can't sell alcohol and tobacco

(22:41):
to kids, you can't expose them to pornography, you can't
endanger children, you can't force children into contracts, you can't
traffic children, you can't groom children. All of this there
are laws, but it happens in the virtual space twenty
four hours a day day, seven days a week. And

(23:02):
when you look at these apps that are catering to children,
when you look at these platforms catering to children, and
you know that big Tech is trying to get these
kids on their site and they want them to doom
scroll for hours on end. And then you talk to
parents and teachers and preachers and pediatricians and you hear

(23:27):
that addiction to these screens is one of the biggest
problems they have. When it comes to cyberbullying and behavioral
issues in schools. Most of it start in the virtual space.
When kids meet a drug dealer, a pedophile, a trafficker,

(23:47):
a groomer. Generally it is in the virtual space, and
we need to put these protections in place for our
children in the virtual space, just as they exist in
the physical space.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Speaking to Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee, Senator, the terrible
terrorist attack that occurred just before the Thanksgiving holiday took
the life of a National Guard member of the National
Guard and almost took another life has got people focused
in here on how could something like this happen, How

(24:25):
was the vetting or really what was the lack of
vetting like to bring in many of these Afghans during
the Biden withdrawal. I wanted you to speak to that
and give us a census to what do you think
the Trump administration is going to be able to or
should do now that there's a recognition that there was
insufficient vetting for many, perhaps most, of the Afghans who

(24:48):
were brought here during the Biding.

Speaker 7 (24:49):
Withdrawal, and actually the Inspector General's report from twenty twenty
two with the Apartment of Homeland Security noted there was
efficient vetting, and the response from the Biden administration was
that they were going to go back and do this vetting.
Obviously they did not, and now what the Trump administration

(25:13):
is discussing doing is halting immigration while they catch up
and make certain that they have vetted all these individuals,
whether they came in through the Afghan Welcome program that
Biden had put in place, or it is people that
are in the system that illegally were in the country,

(25:35):
or people that were here legally on a visa and
have overstayed their visa. You're going to see this administration,
in this Department of Homeland Security and the Department of
State circle back and actually clean up some of these

(25:55):
and if someone needs to go, they will be issued
an order of deep and then deported and removed from
the country.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
I don't think we've asked you about this, but I
asked you about it in person the last time I
saw you, and I want to make sure we hit it.
I think it's a pretty extraordinary, unbelievable story that at
least eight United States senators, including you, had your phones
tapped as part of an investigation. I know that you
guys are continuing to follow up on that.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Can you tell our audience what happened there? Why?

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Obviously it's significant and should never happen again, and what
is going to happen as a result. Where is that
story for people who don't know very much about it
or haven't been paying attention.

Speaker 7 (26:43):
Yes, and the story is continuing to unfold as we're
getting more documents and hearing more from whistleblowers. And I
think it's tomorrow we have Judge Boseberg who is going
to come before us. He is the one who issued
as many as one hundred and ninety seven subpoenas for

(27:05):
information on our phones, and on top of those subpoenas,
he put a non disclosure order, which meant that the
wireless companies could not tell us that they had a
subpoena for our phone records. Now, we were targeted, from

(27:25):
what we have learned, because we were all Republicans, we
all support President Trump, and we each of us had
questions about the twenty twenty election. Now, the reason we're
continuing to dig on this and to get information is

(27:45):
because if they were going after phone records, there is
no doubt and we have reason to believe that they
went after other information. Where are they going after the
content of those contacts? Because what they did was to
get every phone call I made or received and the

(28:10):
location where I was when I made or received that call,
and who that call was made to or received from.
And it started on January first of twenty one with me,
and it was a pure spying effort. It was a
pure phishing expedition. But we also want to know did

(28:34):
they get the content of emails? Did they get the
content of text messages? Was there any wire tapping in
real time that they did? Did they surveil and investigate
people that we were in contact with? What was the

(28:55):
extent of that surveillance? Did they go after financial documents
and other information about us? So we are trying to
get to the bottom of us that I think each
of the eight of us want to know the extent
of this, and I will tell you this. We want

(29:15):
to know what they've done to other conservatives. They know
there were one hundred and ninety seven subpoenas issued against
four hundred and thirty individuals Conservatives and it was organizations
and individuals in that mix, citizens, Unine, and a turning

(29:36):
point USA, different organizations what they were after. We know
they got financial documents on some of those, but we
want to see that. We want to make certain this
never happens again, and conservatives have to be protected. And

(29:59):
of course in this this case, because you have some
whistleblowers over at DOJ that we're aware of this, they
brought the information to Senator Grassley, and that is how
we've been able to find out as much as we
have gotten so far about what they did to conservatives

(30:20):
in the extent of it. Jack Smith, who ran Arctic Frost,
needs to be held to account. I think he ought
to be in jail, and we need to hold everyone
to account. I have written a letter that calls for
the Office of Professional Conduct at the Department of Justice

(30:42):
to look into his actions. He should be disbarred. We
also have written a letter to the DC bar about
his conduct and what the actions that he took. The
email chain that we got last week. You know, the

(31:03):
interesting thing is the attorney the Council that was advising
Jack Smith and Arctic Frost told them this is a
constitutional violation and pointed out to them what we had
said early on. It's a First and Fourth Amendment violation.

(31:24):
It is a violation of the separation of powers. It's
a violation of the Speech and Debate claus it is
a violation of due process. It is a violation of
the Stored Communications Act. And to think they did this
knowing it was outside of the law, but they hate

(31:45):
Donald Trump and people that support Donald Trump, and so
they did it anyway.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Amen, it's a big story.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
I think we're going to continue to follow it on
this program. Please keep us update it and thanks taking
the time. And one more time, tell everybody to go vote.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Senator you got it.

Speaker 7 (32:06):
Be certain that you go vote today. Tennessee seven. Matt
Van Epps need your vote. Let's send a message that
the Democrats are not going to take this seat.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Amen that Senator Marsha Blackburn, great state of Tennessee, soon
to be governor, appreciate you, Senator.

Speaker 7 (32:24):
You got it.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Take care all right, buck.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Your boy Pickles, he's actually turned into one of the
greatest receivers in the NFL. Right now, George Pickings, were
you always coming many miles away? This is not even
the least I said always bet on Pickles, and I
was correct. I appreciate your mom and dad saying that
they'll lie for you and claim that you were watching
college football to try to keep you from having to

(32:51):
be reprimanded by me for not spending time watching football.
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(33:13):
than seventy seven and a half receiving yards, Jamiir Gibbs
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(33:36):
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Speaker 8 (33:57):
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Speaker 1 (34:12):
Here is another cut from Linda earlier. Let me play
Devil's Advocate here. If if it were to be reported
and confirmed that the Narco terrorists, which I agree are
bad guys, were floating in the water and we ordered
a helicopter to go in and to mow them down

(34:32):
as they floated in the water, you wouldn't have an
issue with that.

Speaker 7 (34:38):
I wouldn't have an issue with that at all, after
letting in twenty million illegals.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
I respect the clarity here. I respect the no holds barred.
You know, we got to start selling T shirts. When
in doubt take them out, Linda.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
When in doubt, talk about Kelsey and Franklin, tennessee my
backyard legiti at what you got for us.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
Kelsey, Hey, I just talked to my husband and he
was in line voting for an hour. He said that
he talked to some of the pool workers and they
said that there were lines all day. He said a
lot of talk around there where was about church and family.
So stay in line and vote.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Thank you for the call to Kelsey.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I went Tennessee seven Residents seventh Congressional District election day,
going on till seven pm Central. I went today, Thank
you for the prompt, Kelsey. Tom in Oklahoma City, He's
got Linda's back.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Tom.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
Yeah, we had of done beIN Lauden in his home
and killed him. No one had a problem. These guys
were in the act of a crime.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
What's the difference, Tom.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
I mean, I agree, I think I think I don't
remember specifically. Didn't Bin Laden have a gun and was
using someone as a human shield there?

Speaker 5 (35:57):
Well?

Speaker 2 (35:57):
No, But I mean he might have been reached for
an AK forty seven that was twenty or so feet
away from him. Possibly, Glad you could you can get
like Rob O'Neil or one of the Seal Team six
guys to come on and tell us specifically. But I
think I think but Lawton had had a little bit
of a twitchy.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Arm, and he went for something. You know what I mean,
if he messed around, he found out Bob in Minnesota
really fast. You want to just shoot everybody, fire.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Away, all right.

Speaker 8 (36:25):
I met Randy Weaver, his wife and friends.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
What about Randy's wife being.

Speaker 8 (36:30):
Taken out by a military sniper holding a baby on
her front porch. I want you liberals out there that
are listening in the state of Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
So we just went we'll be rich at the end
of the show. Here, we'll have to come back back

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