December 4, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show delivers explosive analysis of breaking news surrounding the arrest of the alleged January 6th pipe bomber, Brian Cole Jr., after a five-year investigation. Clay and Buck dissect the FBI press conference led by Attorney General Pam Bondi and FBI Director Cash Patel, highlighting the stunning revelation that no new evidence was needed—only renewed focus and leadership under the current administration. This raises critical questions about why the Biden-era DOJ and FBI deprioritized the case despite branding January 6th as the “darkest day since the Civil War.” The hosts argue that political motivations may have sidelined the investigation because the suspect reportedly has ties to Antifa, contradicting the long-standing narrative that the Capitol riot was solely driven by MAGA extremists.
The hour features a detailed review of the criminal complaint and affidavit, which alleges Cole purchased bomb-making materials with his own credit cards and was tracked via cell phone data near the RNC and DNC on January 5th, 2021. Clay and Buck emphasize how these findings could reshape the January 6th narrative, undermining claims of a purely right-wing insurrection and exposing potential cover-ups within the prior FBI leadership. They also explore broader implications, including whether this case signals systemic bias in federal law enforcement and the possibility of additional charges or co-conspirators.
Julie Kelly, one of the most prominent journalists covering January 6th, joins the show to provide expert insight. She calls the arrest a “massive scandal,” asserting that the FBI’s decision to shelve the investigation for years was deliberate and politically motivated. Kelly warns of significant legal ramifications, noting that exculpatory evidence was withheld from January 6th defendants while the DOJ pushed an insurrection narrative. The discussion also touches on Kamala Harris’s proximity to one of the pipe bombs, raising further questions about security lapses and media silence.
Listeners weigh in with fiery talkbacks, reinforcing skepticism about the DOJ’s priorities and echoing frustration over selective enforcement. Clay and Julie conclude by examining the affidavit’s granular details—credit card purchases, cell tower pings, and surveillance footage—while stressing the need for transparency and accountability as this case unfolds.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third hour of Clay in Buck kicks off right now.
Thanks for being here with us. Okay, so we're just
finishing up here. The presser just ended moments ago, and
so we can bring you the most important parts of
it to recap a bit or if you're joining us
here for the first time today, the DC, the DC
pipe bomber case has had a major break January fifth,
(00:24):
twenty twenty one. Pipe bombs left outside the RNC going
for years here unable to find and people. I asked this,
Clay in the first hour. I talked about the resources
deployed for January sixth versus the resources deployed for the
pipe bomber on January fifth, A vast disparity in terms
of the desire to track down people. It seems under
(00:48):
the Bide administration, that's now no longer the case. And
so there's somebody who is in custody. We have opening
remarks here where they cover the most I think salient
facts where things stand right now from both the Attorney
General Pam Bondi and FBI Director Cash. But tell, let's
(01:08):
start with Attorney General Bondi Here, Clay, this has cut
thirty three.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Play it early this morning Brian Cole Junior was arrested
and charged with placing the pipe bombs at the RNC
and the DNC on January fifth, twenty twenty one. He
has been charged with violating eighteen USC. Eight forty four,
which is use of an explosive device. This investigation is
(01:37):
ongoing as we speak, search warrants are being executed and
there could be more charges to come. I'm going to
let our US attorney discuss that shortly. This was the
work of multiple agencies working together. This morning's operation was
carried out safely and successfully. We know that there is
(01:58):
there are so many many issues when you're issuing search warrants,
dangerous things can happen, and this was carried out safely
and secure securely thanks to all of the people standing
around me.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
All right, Clay, So a lot of high fives for
the teamwork here. And I think that not only is
it because just what an important case this is, and
there's a lot you know, we haven't had the focus
on well, there was really a maniacal focus on January
sixth by Democrats to try to prevent Trump from becoming president.
January sixth, you know, CNN is not doing nightly specials
(02:35):
on January six anymore. So we haven't had it as
much front and center, but there are stories, and there
are narratives, there are things that surround it that the
pipe bomber in custody. Now, I think people are going
to want to look back at some of what was
said and some of what we were told. This is
an important piece in the overall puzzle.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
One hundred percent, and I think as you break all
of this down and look at it, the question that
I think is going to keep coming up, and it's
a good one, and I think many of you out
there are asking it is if they didn't have to
get any new information, if all they had to do
was go back over and commit investigation resources to all
(03:23):
of the evidence that was already there in order to
find the culprit allegedly, why didn't they do this in
the Biden administration?
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Right?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
This is a very basic question, and I think a
lot of you are This is why there's been sort
of this conspiracy theory, this alarm bell going off. You
said it an hour one, if you were a grandma
and you went into the Capitol, they were able to
show up with the full force and might of the
FBI and drag you out of your home and potentially
(03:55):
put you in prison for years. I mean, they put
people in and we'll talk with Julie Kelly about this.
I mean they've helped people in solitary confinement for months
in DC for going into the Capitol on January sixth.
And you're telling me that the full might of the
federal government couldn't find a guy who had allegedly left
(04:19):
pipe bombs. I mean, look, there were violent acts committed
on January sixth, don't get me wrong. And if you
attack police officers, as you and I have said for
a long time, there should be consequences on that. Whether
you're a Democrat, Republican or independent, you can't put your
hands on a police officer, but a pipe bomb. Like again,
(04:41):
many of you out there have been asking the question
that is far more significant than anything else that has
been charged related to January sixth, And again we said
Ashley Babbitt was the only person who died on that day.
Why did it take five years to get this guy?
And why did it take a ran new president to
get this guy? I think that raises a lot of
(05:04):
alarm bells about you know, the focus of prosecutorial decision
making and whether they chose to not go full fledged
after this guy because they didn't like where the trail
was leading.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
One part of the January sixth narrative that Democrats become
very agitated when you bring up and I think that
means we're over the target. You want to continue to
bring it up. In fact, I brought this up in
the overtime segment on Real Time with Bill Marclay before
the election, and the Democrats in the panel got very upset.
But I just I said, you cannot talk about January
(05:39):
sixth as though it happened in a vacuum. It came
after months of Biden Democrat street demonstrations riots, you know,
the the left Antifa stormtroopers. I mean, the craziness, neighborhoods
being burned down, police station being burned down, the insanity
(06:02):
that was unleashed by Democrats as a show of force
during COVID, and the complete lack of consequences and punishment.
Kamala Harris was raising money for the bail funded after
they burned down a whole part of Minneapolis. Right, the
absolute really working together of Democrats with the leftist street mobs. Well,
(06:27):
what one hand washes the other, mean they are one
and the same. That was the context of the election
and January sixth, and I think that one of the
reasons the pipe bomber story was so uninteresting to Democrats,
including the Biden FBI was whole. On a second, you
mean that there might have been some lunatic leftist who
(06:47):
was trying to bomb and perhaps dismember people outside the
RNC right before right before January sixth occurred. It just
is something that does not go along with the official narrative,
which is why of the Democrats, which is why it
was I think buried for so long. We've got cash Bettell.
By the way, his opening statement here, Clay, listen to
(07:08):
what the FBI director had to say, Play thirty four.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
I want to take a moment to thank the Metropolitan
Police Department, the United States Capitol Police, our brave prosecutors,
the Department of Justice, and our leader, Attorney General Pambondi
and US Attorney Janine Piro, whose relentless work on this
case made this possible. As the Attorney General said, we
did not discover any new information. What we did an
(07:31):
investigation spearheaded by the Deputy Director and the adic of
our Washington Field office, brought in a new team of
investigators and experts, re examined every piece of evidence, sifted
through all the data, something that the prior administration refused
and failed to do. As a result of that, we
generated numerous investigative leads, executed multiple legal process with their
(07:54):
US attorney partners, and came to this conclusion today. And
that is why we were able to safely secure this
individual into custody. Remember, we are dealing with an individual
was alleged to have made bombs. We cannot do this
sort of takedown in haste because it endangers the lives
of law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Again, it is it is.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I mean, you you worked, you, you know with the
NY terrorism cases, things like that. I just strip away
all of everything else and just pretend that for five
years they have been looking for this guy. Why would
the Biden team, which committed ungodly amounts of resources investigatively
(08:42):
to try to go get everybody that they could that
had a remote connection to January sixth, why in the
world would they not have been able to catch this guy?
I mean, just from your point objectively, it's because I'll
tell you my theory. You tell me if I'm crazy,
it's because they didn't want to catch this guy. They
didn't think it was a resource that they cared about.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
No, there's no there's there was no imperative here because,
like I was saying, no matter what we find out
about this guy, it muddies the narrative for Democrats, just
like talking about the six months of mayhem leading up
to this, which were all Democrat riots. And I've said it,
I stand behind this one hundred percent. The twenty twenty
election was held under the duress of Democrats threatening to
(09:26):
burn down cities and neighborhoods all across America, which we
know because there were store owners and others were boarding
things up after they had seen what had already happened
when you upset Democrats. Right, So there was the threat
of force, an ongoing anarchy, all at the hands of Democrats.
But the only riot that has ever upset them is
January sixth. The only riot that wasn't the voice of
(09:48):
the people being heard was January sixth. What the heck
was going on with the pipe bomber.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
The day before?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah? What was what was he trying to do? What
side of the spectrum ideologically was he on, because I'd
be willing to bet, just like we've been talking about
all long here, that's probably some leftist, anarchist loon. And
it just goes to show you once again, you know,
maybe ninety nine times out of one hundred, but the
political violence problem is.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
On the left, and if they had arrested a left
wing violent lunatic, then it would have severely curtailed their
ability to make it seem as if this was an
insurrection and Trump supporters were unique dangers to the country. Again,
(10:34):
I just come back to if you want to say
that this entire incident was the most dangerous thing that's
happened to the United States since the Civil War, That's
what Biden and Kamalis said. It was the darkest day
in America since the Civil War. Wouldn't you want to
find the guy that was trying to commit the greatest
(10:57):
act of violence on January sixth. I mean, I'm just
looking at it as like, if I'm an objective investigator
and I go and I say, hey, this is a serious,
serious incident, what's the first thing you say, Let's go
get the guys or gals that are responsible for the
most violent and serious components of this incident, and somehow,
(11:19):
somehow that didn't happen for five years, and then they
come out in this press conference and they say, this
wasn't some brand new tip, This wasn't some brand new
person coming forward and giving the FBI information. It was
just a diligent focus on this as a major point
of investigation.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Which goes to one the doggedness and efficiency at the
top levels of this new FBI, which is why I
think it does deserve the credit that is being spread
around right now. And also it goes to what we've
said all along, which is it just wasn't a priority
for the Biden FBI. Obviously they had years to do this.
No new leads. What does that mean. It means a
(11:59):
Biden f I backburner this thing. Yep, Why they backburner? Well,
that's what we're talking about. I think that's the only question.
We'll talk with this with Julie Kelly, who has been
hammering this. To her credit, she's been talking about this
for years, she's talked about it with us on.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
The show for years, and we'll see what she thinks.
But I think at a minimum, again, assuming they got
the right guy and the guy has a presumption of innocence,
as all people do. This is a tremendous success story
for Dan Bongino and Cash Ptel and frankly Attorney General
Pam Bondi too, because they came in and said, we're
going to figure out who's actually responsible for this, and
(12:34):
they have arrested the individual they believe was responsible for
putting down these pipe bombs on that day. I'm actually
genuinely curious to hear what Julie's take on all of
this is in about twelve minutes, because she has covered
this aspect of the story more aggressively than almost anyone,
and so we'll see what details she has found most
(12:54):
surprising or interesting or significant that have come out. You know,
Cash Betel tweeted twenty minutes ago when Dan Bongino and
I came to the FBI, the pipe bomb investigation have
been stalled for five years. We rebuilt it from scratch,
rerunning every lead, retesting every piece of evidence, bringing in
(13:15):
top experts, and deploying new technology to engineer the break
that finally nailed the suspect. Today is the result of
that outstanding work. We didn't need new evidence, just new
leaders and a new President willing to let good cops
be cops. So that is the significant aspect again of
(13:36):
all of this, and we will see what Julie Kelly
has saying about twelve minutes.
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We are rolling through the program. Julie Kelly going to
join us next again, Big Story out There press conference.
The pipe bomber of the January sixth, weekend of that
incident has been arrested, according to the FBI. According to
(15:44):
the Attorney General, Julie Kelly knows more about this than
almost anybody in the way that it's been covered over
the last five days. We will talk with her about that,
but we have a couple of fun talkbacks. Derek from
Minnesota News Talk eleven thirty. He's got Linda's back. Hh.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I'm with Linda as far as who cares if they
die or not?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And if they were alive, they should be killed. Anyways,
they should go back and run more drugs obviously as
they did. Anyways, Well, what's the what's this movie with
Max von Seeda where he's like, kill them all, let
God sort them out?
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Isn't that?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Isn't that Stephen King movie?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
And I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I know that phrase, but I don't know the movie. Ah,
I can't remember the movie either. I'll figure that one out.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Oh, I'm gonna say VIP email from Dennis. I think
I just went by Linda's house because there was a
sign in the front yard that said trespassers will be
shot survivors will be shot again.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
But the quote is from the nineteen ninety three movie
Needful Things, And uh, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
So callers, my call screener just went down. Tom and
Rhode Island.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
What you got for us?
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
What's up, buddy?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
How are you?
Speaker 6 (16:57):
I'm okay, let me get it off speak a phone.
The reason I'm caught is uh, I'm the first time
call a long time listener. You guys are great. I
see here on Fox A lot one of you said
why didn't divide in people do anything about this, doing
thing about it? Because they were too busy going after
Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well, yeah, that's where we're We've said versions of that
there will go out for jan six, Trump the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Sure, thank you, thank you for the call, and thanks
for listening. They didn't want to catch the guy. Let's
go to a rhetorical question. Why didn't If you're convinced
this is the most dangerous thing that's happened to the
country since the Civil War, wouldn't you get the most
violent person?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And Frank Frank from New Jersey GG on the talk
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Speaker 4 (17:45):
I was thinking playing But guy who's in the CIA,
A guy who likes the books about balls.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
What a bunch of good guys. Then all of a
sudden we started.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Talking about red wine and uh sausage parties. But Linda,
thank you for saving me and I will.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
Teat this one.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
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rest of the way, Julie Kelly joins me. Now, Julie,
I don't know anybody who has covered Jan six better,
(19:11):
more significantly or more regularly than you have. You've been
coming on with us for years, this pipe bomber. We've
talked about you some on this related incident for years
in the past, and I just want to start before
we dive into the specifics with you, if you truly
believed that, as the Biden administration told us they did,
(19:34):
that Jan six, then surrounding days was basically the worst
threat to the country since the Civil War. The alleged
pipe bombs would be the most violent of all of
the protests that were surrounding that day in terms of
what they could have occurred if they had exploded. Wouldn't
(19:54):
you have made that your number one focus of investigation?
Why do you think I think it was not the
number one focus because clearly it was not of the
Biden doj.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Hey, Clay, I'm sorry you broke up that very first
part there, but why this was not not only not
focus of their investigation, this was a very vigorous investigation
early on through January February twenty twenty one, then all
of a sudden it disappeared, And that really is a takeaway.
That's the scandal about this arrest today, not necessarily that
(20:30):
this suspect is in custody and now they just posted
the complaints. So I'm going to be looking through that.
But why Chris Ray's doj Joe Biden's Department of Justice
completely dropped this matter. And we have to believe at
this point some of the reporting indicating that this individual,
who was twenty five or twenty six at the time,
(20:52):
was linked to Antifa or that anti fascist movement and
was not a Maca person as we were told for here.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
So what do you think, actually, what do you think
actually has happened here? And you said, the complaint has
just been posted. Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, Pam Bondi. They
had a big press conference. We've played some cuts from that.
I'm scrolling through Twitter right now trying to see if
I can see that complaint as you were just talking
about as well, what exactly has been alleged here? But
(21:28):
the arrest this, Brian, Well, let me play for you, Julian,
lets you react to this. This was Dan Bongino describing
the moment they were able to solve the case and
his reaction cut thirty five.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Was there a particular moment where the evidence is coming
in and it's starting to look like progress is being made.
What was the moment that you knew that you were
on the road to salving the case?
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Yeah, sure, smiling you because I certainly remember the moment.
Karen remembers it too. He said, are you sitting down?
Called me on the phone. I said, oh boy, why
sis bad news? And he said, I think we got him.
What exactly that tip was. We're going to have to
(22:18):
pass on that for right now. I wisht there's obviously
we're in the prologue of a long book. This is
just the beginning. This is not the end of the investigation.
As you all well know having reported on these for
a long time. There's interviews to be conducted, the search,
more in processing. Scene is not even done.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Okay, The affid David is up. Julie on the criminal complaint.
I've just seen images of this guy start to circulate.
He is a young black man, Brian Cole Junior, and
the indications that he is a diehard Trump supporter or
(22:57):
that he would have been an insurrectionist seems quite clearly
not to be true. And again, I'm reading through with
this affidavit right now. What I think this has the potential.
So let me take a step back, because we're analyzing
this in real time. This has to put the potential
(23:17):
to change in many ways the narrative surrounding jan six itself.
If instead of a crazed group of Trump terrorists, uh,
there were also individuals here who are uh, you know
this individual, uh is maybe just a left wing radical
that was also involved in this. That really kind of
(23:40):
changes the oh, these are crazy white supremacist Trump supporters narrative,
doesn't it doesn't it challenge things?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
It definitely does, Clay, and that's why. And I was
saying this earlier and interviews this morning before we even
knew you know, the individual's name. But there was some
reporting that he was tied to Antifa. Is that that
explained means why the investigation was dropped because it completely
contradicted what FBI Director Christopher Ray and I will be
(24:09):
posting these clips shortly on acts doing Underscore Kelly two.
Christopher Ray's insistence that Antifa played no role in the
events of January sixth, now, he was saying this as
early as March of twenty twenty one when he designated
January sixth an active domestic terrorism. But he was insistent
(24:30):
that no one from Antifa was involved. There was no
way for him to know that, Clay, But because you
had the president, because you had people who were there
on January sixth who were saying that they saw Antifa there.
They Antifa getting out of buses, we also have right now. Finally,
(24:50):
I think it was discovered last year or in twenty
twenty three, undercoveredc Metro police officers arriving at Capitol Grounds
telling people they were there to find antipas. So this
would have been not just decimated the entire January sixth
insurrection narrative, but also contradicted Chris Ray because he was
(25:12):
desperate to help develop this insurrection narrative and use it
against the President and the MAGA movement. So we have
a much bigger scandal on our hands. Rather than just
taking a man into custody who was on seen on
that video on January fifth, this is a huge cover
up on a massive scale of Chris Ray's FBI and
(25:34):
Joe Biden, Marrick Garland's Department of Justice, keeping this from
the American people, keeping it out of legal proceedings. Jasics
defendants could have used something like this as exculpatory evidence
because you had judged calling this an insurrection incited by
the president. So there are a lot of consequences legal
ramifications of what Chris Ray's cover up. If that is
(25:59):
indeed the same of this individual who planted the pipe
bombs and then compted the first leave of panic and
these evacuations that day, write a sejoint session with Suzing
at one o'clock.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
All right, let me read this is the court tran
Let me see. I want to make sure I get
the official because my producer. This is the affidavit in
support of the criminal complaint that has been filed and released,
and I'm reading through it live with you right now.
Cole lives in a single family house with his mother
(26:31):
and other family members. He is thirty years old, resident
of Woodbridge, Virginia. The evidence laid out here, Julian, I'm
reading this in real time. The FBI has identified one
bank checking account, six credit cards used by Cole to
they allege purchase multiple items consistent with the components used
(26:53):
to manufacture the pipe bombs, and they say that he
bought these things in a physical retail locations in northern Virginia,
and then it runs through the specifics of exactly what
was included in these pipe bombs and where they were
able to find and trace the purchases at home depot.
(27:18):
They then say that they were and this is very
detailed about the things that were purchased that they believe
were directly used in the pipe bomb that they were
able to analyze. They also then say that since at
least as early as January five, twenty twenty one, they
have identified his cell phone number and they have been
(27:41):
able to obtain historical cell site records located in the
immediate vicinity of the RNC and the DNC at the
time at which the bomb was placed. And these are
cell phone towers location data records obtained. And again I'm
reading from this in real time from the cell phone
provider provide service to Cole's cell phone show that he
(28:05):
was in the area and that they are able let's
see the particular sector that engaged and basically that he
was there during the time that they believe that these
pipe bombs were actually placed. So again I'm reading in
(28:25):
real time the specific pinging. You may or may not
have this in front of you, Julie. This will be
ultimately for a court to determine guilt or innocence. But
they have it appears him purchasing the items that were
used to make the pipe bomb with his credit card,
and then his cell phone being in the location where
(28:46):
the pipe bomb was placed on that night. That is circumstantial.
They obviously have video footage of an individual as well.
He's covered up, he fits the height size. Maybe they'll
be able to find some of these clothes. I don't know,
but this is very detailed. It was not discussed at
the press conference, so your reaction to some of this
(29:08):
obviously as it's coming down in real time, right.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
So this does appear to confirm that the FBI has
the right person in custody. So that's a good sign.
We don't want, you know, a rush to judgment here,
and that does not appear to be the case. But
what was said during the press conference today, and I
would have liked to have seen a lot more details
(29:32):
on the suspect and where this investigation is headed and
the cover up apparently by Chris Ray's FBI rather than
sort of you know, this teamwork performance that we got instead.
So this this apidated, this complaint will be helpful in
giving put some putting some warm meat on the bone.
But Clay, what was said during the press conference is
(29:53):
very important. This discovery identifying the suspect was not based
on new information or evidence. Yeah right, They were working
off what they already had, just putting new investigators, fresh
pairs of eyes on this, which means that the Ray
FBI has had had that for years. So this was
an intentional decision by someone, whether it was Chris Ray,
(30:16):
whether it's Stephen Dantuano, who was a DC FBI chief
at the time overseeing the pipe bomb investigation. So someone
or somebody's made conscious choice not to pursue this, but
to pretend at the same time that the FBI actually
was looking for this person. So, you know, as I said,
(30:38):
there are big ramifications for this, and I hope that
we hear more from the FBI and the dj about
what they had when they had it, the singer prints
all over that information early on, and then who made
the decision to shut the whole thing down.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yes, Julie, we appreciate the time again, this is a
breaking news story. I know you're going to have a day.
We're trying to make sense of it all. But I
think certainly the idea that this was a white supremacist
led revolt against the United States government would be challenged
if the most violent alleged perpetrator was a young black
(31:15):
man connected to Antifa, as the detail seemed to suggest
he was. Based on the information that is coming out here,
so well, hey.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Put yourself, put us back to April of twenty twenty one.
Let's say that Chris Ray does announce this arrest of
this individual and he's a young black man, no ties
to MAGA, but has ties to Antifa. There would be
no January sixth insurrection narrative. It would have been over. Yeah,
it could not allow that to happen. And this is
a scandal of massive proportion, and that should be the
(31:50):
biggest takeaway today.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
And then I think Julie to build on top of that,
a lot of people are going to start to say, Okay,
what motivated this twenty five year old at that point
in time to decide to do this? And then he
vanishes for five years and doesn't do anything else, and
he's living at his parents' house in northern Virginia and
we suddenly find him like what is his bag? It
(32:14):
just they're an awful lot of lone wolfs that seem
who engage and I'm using quotation marks for those watching
on video, who engage in acts of violence that we hear, Oh,
they had no connection to anyone else. Isn't it kind
of suspicious how often that seems to happen.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
It is happening more often. And I think that this
is something that that FBI, that Cash and Dan are
going to have to address straight on. I mean, if
we are expected to believe that this individual did this
on his own, we could see him on a phone.
We can see him using his glasses to like peer
for an address, we can see him retracing his steps.
(32:52):
This was not a sophisticated operation that this kid did
on his own. Who would he working as his behest?
And then Clayton, like you and I and you Buck
and I have talked about for years the very suspicious
surroundings of related to the discovery at the R and
C and the DNC, I still believe that something morener
(33:15):
theory has happened in that timeline that day on January sixth,
right before those discoveries. Then what happened with this individual
who is arrested today.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Well, remember, I mean there's that video of Kamala Harris
supposedly an incredible danger coming within what a few feet
of the alleged pipe bomb, and nobody notices it and
they didn't turn into a huge story. I think you've
talked about this in the past, when you know you're
about to be elected as vice president and there's a
pipe bomb in close proximity to you and nobody seems
(33:46):
to be concerned about it. Anyway, there's a lot here,
and I appreciate you coming on, and I think a
lot of this is going to continue to be explained
and to be unraveled as we go forward so that
there's more sense to be made here. But we appreciate
the time and thank you for everything that you've been
doing on.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
These cases to great How do you soon thinks?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
That's Julie Kelly.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I'll try to get to a couple of your calls
when we come back, because again I'm trying to read
this affidavit in real time and analyze it as a
major breaking news and again, at a minimum, this is
destructive to the narrative of Jan. Six then a seismic
way that now a young black man who appears to
have been of left wing ideology is arrested as the
(34:34):
foremost violent actor of the Jan. Sixth window. It's just
big news. It is huge news. And they couldn't find
this guy for five years. Biden had four years when
they were dragging Grandma's out of their house, when they
were looking for everyone on Jan. Six and they couldn't
find the guy who was engaged in potentially the most
(34:57):
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Thanks for being here with us. Okay, so we're just
finishing up here. The presser just ended moments ago, and
so we can bring you the most important parts of
it to recap a bit or if you're joining us
here for the first time today, the DC, the DC
pipe bomber case has had a major break January fifth,
(00:24):
twenty twenty one. Pipe bombs left outside the RNC going
for years here unable to find and people. I asked this,
Clay in the first hour. I talked about the resources
deployed for January sixth versus the resources deployed for the
pipe bomber on January fifth, A vast disparity in terms
of the desire to track down people. It seems under
(00:48):
the Bide administration, that's now no longer the case. And
so there's somebody who is in custody. We have opening
remarks here where they cover the most I think salient
facts where things stand right now from both the Attorney
General Pam Bondi and FBI Director Cash. But tell, let's
(01:08):
start with Attorney General Bondi Here, Clay, this has cut
thirty three.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Play it early this morning Brian Cole Junior was arrested
and charged with placing the pipe bombs at the RNC
and the DNC on January fifth, twenty twenty one. He
has been charged with violating eighteen USC. Eight forty four,
which is use of an explosive device. This investigation is
(01:37):
ongoing as we speak, search warrants are being executed and
there could be more charges to come. I'm going to
let our US attorney discuss that shortly. This was the
work of multiple agencies working together. This morning's operation was
carried out safely and successfully. We know that there is
(01:58):
there are so many many issues when you're issuing search warrants,
dangerous things can happen, and this was carried out safely
and secure securely thanks to all of the people standing
around me.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
All right, Clay, So a lot of high fives for
the teamwork here. And I think that not only is
it because just what an important case this is, and
there's a lot you know, we haven't had the focus
on well, there was really a maniacal focus on January
sixth by Democrats to try to prevent Trump from becoming president.
January sixth, you know, CNN is not doing nightly specials
(02:35):
on January six anymore. So we haven't had it as
much front and center, but there are stories, and there
are narratives, there are things that surround it that the
pipe bomber in custody. Now, I think people are going
to want to look back at some of what was
said and some of what we were told. This is
an important piece in the overall puzzle.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
One hundred percent, and I think as you break all
of this down and look at it, the question that
I think is going to keep coming up, and it's
a good one, and I think many of you out
there are asking it is if they didn't have to
get any new information, if all they had to do
was go back over and commit investigation resources to all
(03:23):
of the evidence that was already there in order to
find the culprit allegedly, why didn't they do this in
the Biden administration?
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Right?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
This is a very basic question, and I think a
lot of you are This is why there's been sort
of this conspiracy theory, this alarm bell going off. You
said it an hour one, if you were a grandma
and you went into the Capitol, they were able to
show up with the full force and might of the
FBI and drag you out of your home and potentially
(03:55):
put you in prison for years. I mean, they put
people in and we'll talk with Julie Kelly about this.
I mean they've helped people in solitary confinement for months
in DC for going into the Capitol on January sixth.
And you're telling me that the full might of the
federal government couldn't find a guy who had allegedly left
(04:19):
pipe bombs. I mean, look, there were violent acts committed
on January sixth, don't get me wrong. And if you
attack police officers, as you and I have said for
a long time, there should be consequences on that. Whether
you're a Democrat, Republican or independent, you can't put your
hands on a police officer, but a pipe bomb. Like again,
(04:41):
many of you out there have been asking the question
that is far more significant than anything else that has
been charged related to January sixth, And again we said
Ashley Babbitt was the only person who died on that day.
Why did it take five years to get this guy?
And why did it take a ran new president to
get this guy? I think that raises a lot of
(05:04):
alarm bells about you know, the focus of prosecutorial decision
making and whether they chose to not go full fledged
after this guy because they didn't like where the trail
was leading.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
One part of the January sixth narrative that Democrats become
very agitated when you bring up and I think that
means we're over the target. You want to continue to
bring it up. In fact, I brought this up in
the overtime segment on Real Time with Bill Marclay before
the election, and the Democrats in the panel got very upset.
But I just I said, you cannot talk about January
(05:39):
sixth as though it happened in a vacuum. It came
after months of Biden Democrat street demonstrations riots, you know,
the the left Antifa stormtroopers. I mean, the craziness, neighborhoods
being burned down, police station being burned down, the insanity
(06:02):
that was unleashed by Democrats as a show of force
during COVID, and the complete lack of consequences and punishment.
Kamala Harris was raising money for the bail funded after
they burned down a whole part of Minneapolis. Right, the
absolute really working together of Democrats with the leftist street mobs. Well,
(06:27):
what one hand washes the other, mean they are one
and the same. That was the context of the election
and January sixth, and I think that one of the
reasons the pipe bomber story was so uninteresting to Democrats,
including the Biden FBI was whole. On a second, you
mean that there might have been some lunatic leftist who
(06:47):
was trying to bomb and perhaps dismember people outside the
RNC right before right before January sixth occurred. It just
is something that does not go along with the official narrative,
which is why of the Democrats, which is why it
was I think buried for so long. We've got cash Bettell.
By the way, his opening statement here, Clay, listen to
(07:08):
what the FBI director had to say, Play thirty four.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
I want to take a moment to thank the Metropolitan
Police Department, the United States Capitol Police, our brave prosecutors,
the Department of Justice, and our leader, Attorney General Pambondi
and US Attorney Janine Piro, whose relentless work on this
case made this possible. As the Attorney General said, we
did not discover any new information. What we did an
(07:31):
investigation spearheaded by the Deputy Director and the adic of
our Washington Field office, brought in a new team of
investigators and experts, re examined every piece of evidence, sifted
through all the data, something that the prior administration refused
and failed to do. As a result of that, we
generated numerous investigative leads, executed multiple legal process with their
(07:54):
US attorney partners, and came to this conclusion today. And
that is why we were able to safely secure this
individual into custody. Remember, we are dealing with an individual
was alleged to have made bombs. We cannot do this
sort of takedown in haste because it endangers the lives
of law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Again, it is it is.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I mean, you you worked, you, you know with the
NY terrorism cases, things like that. I just strip away
all of everything else and just pretend that for five
years they have been looking for this guy. Why would
the Biden team, which committed ungodly amounts of resources investigatively
(08:42):
to try to go get everybody that they could that
had a remote connection to January sixth, why in the
world would they not have been able to catch this guy?
I mean, just from your point objectively, it's because I'll
tell you my theory. You tell me if I'm crazy,
it's because they didn't want to catch this guy. They
didn't think it was a resource that they cared about.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
No, there's no there's there was no imperative here because,
like I was saying, no matter what we find out
about this guy, it muddies the narrative for Democrats, just
like talking about the six months of mayhem leading up
to this, which were all Democrat riots. And I've said it,
I stand behind this one hundred percent. The twenty twenty
election was held under the duress of Democrats threatening to
(09:26):
burn down cities and neighborhoods all across America, which we
know because there were store owners and others were boarding
things up after they had seen what had already happened
when you upset Democrats. Right, So there was the threat
of force, an ongoing anarchy, all at the hands of Democrats.
But the only riot that has ever upset them is
January sixth. The only riot that wasn't the voice of
(09:48):
the people being heard was January sixth. What the heck
was going on with the pipe bomber.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
The day before?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah? What was what was he trying to do? What
side of the spectrum ideologically was he on, because I'd
be willing to bet, just like we've been talking about
all long here, that's probably some leftist, anarchist loon. And
it just goes to show you once again, you know,
maybe ninety nine times out of one hundred, but the
political violence problem is.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
On the left, and if they had arrested a left
wing violent lunatic, then it would have severely curtailed their
ability to make it seem as if this was an
insurrection and Trump supporters were unique dangers to the country. Again,
(10:34):
I just come back to if you want to say
that this entire incident was the most dangerous thing that's
happened to the United States since the Civil War, That's
what Biden and Kamalis said. It was the darkest day
in America since the Civil War. Wouldn't you want to
find the guy that was trying to commit the greatest
(10:57):
act of violence on January sixth. I mean, I'm just
looking at it as like, if I'm an objective investigator
and I go and I say, hey, this is a serious,
serious incident, what's the first thing you say, Let's go
get the guys or gals that are responsible for the
most violent and serious components of this incident, and somehow,
(11:19):
somehow that didn't happen for five years, and then they
come out in this press conference and they say, this
wasn't some brand new tip, This wasn't some brand new
person coming forward and giving the FBI information. It was
just a diligent focus on this as a major point
of investigation.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Which goes to one the doggedness and efficiency at the
top levels of this new FBI, which is why I
think it does deserve the credit that is being spread
around right now. And also it goes to what we've
said all along, which is it just wasn't a priority
for the Biden FBI. Obviously they had years to do this.
No new leads. What does that mean. It means a
(11:59):
Biden f I backburner this thing. Yep, Why they backburner? Well,
that's what we're talking about. I think that's the only question.
We'll talk with this with Julie Kelly, who has been
hammering this. To her credit, she's been talking about this
for years, she's talked about it with us on.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
The show for years, and we'll see what she thinks.
But I think at a minimum, again, assuming they got
the right guy and the guy has a presumption of innocence,
as all people do. This is a tremendous success story
for Dan Bongino and Cash Ptel and frankly Attorney General
Pam Bondi too, because they came in and said, we're
going to figure out who's actually responsible for this, and
(12:34):
they have arrested the individual they believe was responsible for
putting down these pipe bombs on that day. I'm actually
genuinely curious to hear what Julie's take on all of
this is in about twelve minutes, because she has covered
this aspect of the story more aggressively than almost anyone,
and so we'll see what details she has found most
(12:54):
surprising or interesting or significant that have come out. You know,
Cash Betel tweeted twenty minutes ago when Dan Bongino and
I came to the FBI, the pipe bomb investigation have
been stalled for five years. We rebuilt it from scratch,
rerunning every lead, retesting every piece of evidence, bringing in
(13:15):
top experts, and deploying new technology to engineer the break
that finally nailed the suspect. Today is the result of
that outstanding work. We didn't need new evidence, just new
leaders and a new President willing to let good cops
be cops. So that is the significant aspect again of
(13:36):
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has saying about twelve minutes.
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We are rolling through the program. Julie Kelly going to
join us next again, Big Story out There press conference.
The pipe bomber of the January sixth, weekend of that
incident has been arrested, according to the FBI. According to
(15:44):
the Attorney General, Julie Kelly knows more about this than
almost anybody in the way that it's been covered over
the last five days. We will talk with her about that,
but we have a couple of fun talkbacks. Derek from
Minnesota News Talk eleven thirty. He's got Linda's back. Hh.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I'm with Linda as far as who cares if they
die or not?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And if they were alive, they should be killed. Anyways,
they should go back and run more drugs obviously as
they did. Anyways, Well, what's the what's this movie with
Max von Seeda where he's like, kill them all, let
God sort them out?
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Isn't that?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Isn't that Stephen King movie?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
And I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I know that phrase, but I don't know the movie. Ah,
I can't remember the movie either. I'll figure that one out.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Oh, I'm gonna say VIP email from Dennis. I think
I just went by Linda's house because there was a
sign in the front yard that said trespassers will be
shot survivors will be shot again.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
But the quote is from the nineteen ninety three movie
Needful Things, And uh, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
So callers, my call screener just went down. Tom and
Rhode Island.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
What you got for us?
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
What's up, buddy?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
How are you?
Speaker 6 (16:57):
I'm okay, let me get it off speak a phone.
The reason I'm caught is uh, I'm the first time
call a long time listener. You guys are great. I
see here on Fox A lot one of you said
why didn't divide in people do anything about this, doing
thing about it? Because they were too busy going after
Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well, yeah, that's where we're We've said versions of that
there will go out for jan six, Trump the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Sure, thank you, thank you for the call, and thanks
for listening. They didn't want to catch the guy. Let's
go to a rhetorical question. Why didn't If you're convinced
this is the most dangerous thing that's happened to the
country since the Civil War, wouldn't you get the most
violent person?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And Frank Frank from New Jersey GG on the talk
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I was thinking playing But guy who's in the CIA,
A guy who likes the books about balls.
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What a bunch of good guys. Then all of a
sudden we started.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Talking about red wine and uh sausage parties. But Linda,
thank you for saving me and I will.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
Teat this one.
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with us. Buck had to bounce. I've got you the
rest of the way, Julie Kelly joins me. Now, Julie,
I don't know anybody who has covered Jan six better,
(19:11):
more significantly or more regularly than you have. You've been
coming on with us for years, this pipe bomber. We've
talked about you some on this related incident for years
in the past, and I just want to start before
we dive into the specifics with you, if you truly
believed that, as the Biden administration told us they did,
(19:34):
that Jan six, then surrounding days was basically the worst
threat to the country since the Civil War. The alleged
pipe bombs would be the most violent of all of
the protests that were surrounding that day in terms of
what they could have occurred if they had exploded. Wouldn't
(19:54):
you have made that your number one focus of investigation?
Why do you think I think it was not the
number one focus because clearly it was not of the
Biden doj.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Hey, Clay, I'm sorry you broke up that very first
part there, but why this was not not only not
focus of their investigation, this was a very vigorous investigation
early on through January February twenty twenty one, then all
of a sudden it disappeared, And that really is a takeaway.
That's the scandal about this arrest today, not necessarily that
(20:30):
this suspect is in custody and now they just posted
the complaints. So I'm going to be looking through that.
But why Chris Ray's doj Joe Biden's Department of Justice
completely dropped this matter. And we have to believe at
this point some of the reporting indicating that this individual,
who was twenty five or twenty six at the time,
(20:52):
was linked to Antifa or that anti fascist movement and
was not a Maca person as we were told for here.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
So what do you think, actually, what do you think
actually has happened here? And you said, the complaint has
just been posted. Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, Pam Bondi. They
had a big press conference. We've played some cuts from that.
I'm scrolling through Twitter right now trying to see if
I can see that complaint as you were just talking
about as well, what exactly has been alleged here? But
(21:28):
the arrest this, Brian, Well, let me play for you, Julian,
lets you react to this. This was Dan Bongino describing
the moment they were able to solve the case and
his reaction cut thirty five.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Was there a particular moment where the evidence is coming
in and it's starting to look like progress is being made.
What was the moment that you knew that you were
on the road to salving the case?
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Yeah, sure, smiling you because I certainly remember the moment.
Karen remembers it too. He said, are you sitting down?
Called me on the phone. I said, oh boy, why
sis bad news? And he said, I think we got him.
What exactly that tip was. We're going to have to
(22:18):
pass on that for right now. I wisht there's obviously
we're in the prologue of a long book. This is
just the beginning. This is not the end of the investigation.
As you all well know having reported on these for
a long time. There's interviews to be conducted, the search,
more in processing. Scene is not even done.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Okay, The affid David is up. Julie on the criminal complaint.
I've just seen images of this guy start to circulate.
He is a young black man, Brian Cole Junior, and
the indications that he is a diehard Trump supporter or
(22:57):
that he would have been an insurrectionist seems quite clearly
not to be true. And again, I'm reading through with
this affidavit right now. What I think this has the potential.
So let me take a step back, because we're analyzing
this in real time. This has to put the potential
(23:17):
to change in many ways the narrative surrounding jan six itself.
If instead of a crazed group of Trump terrorists, uh,
there were also individuals here who are uh, you know
this individual, uh is maybe just a left wing radical
that was also involved in this. That really kind of
(23:40):
changes the oh, these are crazy white supremacist Trump supporters narrative,
doesn't it doesn't it challenge things?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
It definitely does, Clay, and that's why. And I was
saying this earlier and interviews this morning before we even
knew you know, the individual's name. But there was some
reporting that he was tied to Antifa. Is that that
explained means why the investigation was dropped because it completely
contradicted what FBI Director Christopher Ray and I will be
(24:09):
posting these clips shortly on acts doing Underscore Kelly two.
Christopher Ray's insistence that Antifa played no role in the
events of January sixth, now, he was saying this as
early as March of twenty twenty one when he designated
January sixth an active domestic terrorism. But he was insistent
(24:30):
that no one from Antifa was involved. There was no
way for him to know that, Clay, But because you
had the president, because you had people who were there
on January sixth who were saying that they saw Antifa there.
They Antifa getting out of buses, we also have right now. Finally,
(24:50):
I think it was discovered last year or in twenty
twenty three, undercoveredc Metro police officers arriving at Capitol Grounds
telling people they were there to find antipas. So this
would have been not just decimated the entire January sixth
insurrection narrative, but also contradicted Chris Ray because he was
(25:12):
desperate to help develop this insurrection narrative and use it
against the President and the MAGA movement. So we have
a much bigger scandal on our hands. Rather than just
taking a man into custody who was on seen on
that video on January fifth, this is a huge cover
up on a massive scale of Chris Ray's FBI and
(25:34):
Joe Biden, Marrick Garland's Department of Justice, keeping this from
the American people, keeping it out of legal proceedings. Jasics
defendants could have used something like this as exculpatory evidence
because you had judged calling this an insurrection incited by
the president. So there are a lot of consequences legal
ramifications of what Chris Ray's cover up. If that is
(25:59):
indeed the same of this individual who planted the pipe
bombs and then compted the first leave of panic and
these evacuations that day, write a sejoint session with Suzing
at one o'clock.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
All right, let me read this is the court tran
Let me see. I want to make sure I get
the official because my producer. This is the affidavit in
support of the criminal complaint that has been filed and released,
and I'm reading through it live with you right now.
Cole lives in a single family house with his mother
(26:31):
and other family members. He is thirty years old, resident
of Woodbridge, Virginia. The evidence laid out here, Julian, I'm
reading this in real time. The FBI has identified one
bank checking account, six credit cards used by Cole to
they allege purchase multiple items consistent with the components used
(26:53):
to manufacture the pipe bombs, and they say that he
bought these things in a physical retail locations in northern Virginia,
and then it runs through the specifics of exactly what
was included in these pipe bombs and where they were
able to find and trace the purchases at home depot.
(27:18):
They then say that they were and this is very
detailed about the things that were purchased that they believe
were directly used in the pipe bomb that they were
able to analyze. They also then say that since at
least as early as January five, twenty twenty one, they
have identified his cell phone number and they have been
(27:41):
able to obtain historical cell site records located in the
immediate vicinity of the RNC and the DNC at the
time at which the bomb was placed. And these are
cell phone towers location data records obtained. And again I'm
reading from this in real time from the cell phone
provider provide service to Cole's cell phone show that he
(28:05):
was in the area and that they are able let's
see the particular sector that engaged and basically that he
was there during the time that they believe that these
pipe bombs were actually placed. So again I'm reading in
(28:25):
real time the specific pinging. You may or may not
have this in front of you, Julie. This will be
ultimately for a court to determine guilt or innocence. But
they have it appears him purchasing the items that were
used to make the pipe bomb with his credit card,
and then his cell phone being in the location where
(28:46):
the pipe bomb was placed on that night. That is circumstantial.
They obviously have video footage of an individual as well.
He's covered up, he fits the height size. Maybe they'll
be able to find some of these clothes. I don't know,
but this is very detailed. It was not discussed at
the press conference, so your reaction to some of this
(29:08):
obviously as it's coming down in real time, right.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
So this does appear to confirm that the FBI has
the right person in custody. So that's a good sign.
We don't want, you know, a rush to judgment here,
and that does not appear to be the case. But
what was said during the press conference today, and I
would have liked to have seen a lot more details
(29:32):
on the suspect and where this investigation is headed and
the cover up apparently by Chris Ray's FBI rather than
sort of you know, this teamwork performance that we got instead.
So this this apidated, this complaint will be helpful in
giving put some putting some warm meat on the bone.
But Clay, what was said during the press conference is
(29:53):
very important. This discovery identifying the suspect was not based
on new information or evidence. Yeah right, They were working
off what they already had, just putting new investigators, fresh
pairs of eyes on this, which means that the Ray
FBI has had had that for years. So this was
an intentional decision by someone, whether it was Chris Ray,
(30:16):
whether it's Stephen Dantuano, who was a DC FBI chief
at the time overseeing the pipe bomb investigation. So someone
or somebody's made conscious choice not to pursue this, but
to pretend at the same time that the FBI actually
was looking for this person. So, you know, as I said,
(30:38):
there are big ramifications for this, and I hope that
we hear more from the FBI and the dj about
what they had when they had it, the singer prints
all over that information early on, and then who made
the decision to shut the whole thing down.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yes, Julie, we appreciate the time again, this is a
breaking news story. I know you're going to have a day.
We're trying to make sense of it all. But I
think certainly the idea that this was a white supremacist
led revolt against the United States government would be challenged
if the most violent alleged perpetrator was a young black
(31:15):
man connected to Antifa, as the detail seemed to suggest
he was. Based on the information that is coming out here,
so well, hey.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Put yourself, put us back to April of twenty twenty one.
Let's say that Chris Ray does announce this arrest of
this individual and he's a young black man, no ties
to MAGA, but has ties to Antifa. There would be
no January sixth insurrection narrative. It would have been over. Yeah,
it could not allow that to happen. And this is
a scandal of massive proportion, and that should be the
(31:50):
biggest takeaway today.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
And then I think Julie to build on top of that,
a lot of people are going to start to say, Okay,
what motivated this twenty five year old at that point
in time to decide to do this? And then he
vanishes for five years and doesn't do anything else, and
he's living at his parents' house in northern Virginia and
we suddenly find him like what is his bag? It
(32:14):
just they're an awful lot of lone wolfs that seem
who engage and I'm using quotation marks for those watching
on video, who engage in acts of violence that we hear, Oh,
they had no connection to anyone else. Isn't it kind
of suspicious how often that seems to happen.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
It is happening more often. And I think that this
is something that that FBI, that Cash and Dan are
going to have to address straight on. I mean, if
we are expected to believe that this individual did this
on his own, we could see him on a phone.
We can see him using his glasses to like peer
for an address, we can see him retracing his steps.
(32:52):
This was not a sophisticated operation that this kid did
on his own. Who would he working as his behest?
And then Clayton, like you and I and you Buck
and I have talked about for years the very suspicious
surroundings of related to the discovery at the R and
C and the DNC, I still believe that something morener
(33:15):
theory has happened in that timeline that day on January sixth,
right before those discoveries. Then what happened with this individual
who is arrested today.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Well, remember, I mean there's that video of Kamala Harris
supposedly an incredible danger coming within what a few feet
of the alleged pipe bomb, and nobody notices it and
they didn't turn into a huge story. I think you've
talked about this in the past, when you know you're
about to be elected as vice president and there's a
pipe bomb in close proximity to you and nobody seems
(33:46):
to be concerned about it. Anyway, there's a lot here,
and I appreciate you coming on, and I think a
lot of this is going to continue to be explained
and to be unraveled as we go forward so that
there's more sense to be made here. But we appreciate
the time and thank you for everything that you've been
doing on.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
These cases to great How do you soon thinks?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
That's Julie Kelly.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I'll try to get to a couple of your calls
when we come back, because again I'm trying to read
this affidavit in real time and analyze it as a
major breaking news and again, at a minimum, this is
destructive to the narrative of Jan. Six then a seismic
way that now a young black man who appears to
have been of left wing ideology is arrested as the
(34:34):
foremost violent actor of the Jan. Sixth window. It's just
big news. It is huge news. And they couldn't find
this guy for five years. Biden had four years when
they were dragging Grandma's out of their house, when they
were looking for everyone on Jan. Six and they couldn't
find the guy who was engaged in potentially the most
(34:57):
heinous of the potential violent acts. Anybody. Again, a lot
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