December 5, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show brings listeners a mix of live reporting, political analysis, and exclusive interviews. Clay calls in from the FIFA World Cup draw event at the Kennedy Center, where President Donald Trump received the inaugural FIFA Peace Award. Clay describes the event’s global scale, Trump’s vision of tying the World Cup to America’s 250th anniversary celebrations, and the cultural clash between soccer’s left-leaning U.S. fan base and Trump’s presence. Buck and Clay discuss the international reaction, noting outrage from sports media and European elites, while highlighting Trump’s strategic use of global sports diplomacy.
The hour also covers breaking news on the January 6th pipe bomber case, as reports emerge that suspect Brian Cole Jr. questioned the 2020 election results. Buck warns listeners about media spin framing the suspect as a Trump supporter without full context, emphasizing how narratives are weaponized for political gain. He underscores the seriousness of the crime—live pipe bombs planted near the RNC and DNC—and promises continued coverage as more facts develop.
Buck then interviews Senator Markwayne Mullin of Oklahoma, who provides critical insight into U.S. national security and economic policy. Mullin confirms the legality and necessity of recent military strikes on Venezuelan narco boats, dismissing war crime allegations as baseless and detailing classified briefings that show cartel operatives actively attempting to recover narcotics and communicate with reinforcements. He outlines the Trump administration’s strategy to pressure Nicolás Maduro to leave power, dismantle drug labs, and destabilize terrorist networks without committing U.S. ground troops. Mullin also addresses the American beef industry crisis, explaining collapsing cattle prices, foreign-owned meat packer monopolies, and the looming threat of corporate consolidation. He calls for potential policy solutions, including price-fixing investigations, insurance backstops for ranchers, and reforms to protect domestic protein production.
The hour closes with Buck previewing Isabelle Brown’s upcoming segment on her fiery CNN appearance and a sharp critique of Minnesota Governor Tim Walz following Trump’s controversial remarks. Buck frames Walz’s outrage as political theater, contrasting it with his administration’s failure to address massive fraud in Minnesota’s child nutrition program.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks for being here with us. We will get updates
for you. I know you're on the edge of your seats.
You're like Buck forget about the fate of the republic.
Who cares about the economy? War and peace in the
Caribbean with Venezuela. None of those things matter until we
know the US men's national soccer team draw. So we'll
(00:21):
get you that information as good as we can. They're playing,
you know, Spain, Argentina and Bolivia. Who are they playing?
We'll get you that one week. Can I promise I
will not leave that off of our list of things
to inform you of today. Yeah, clays out the FIFA.
Van Trump just got the FIFA Piece Award. I think
(00:44):
years ago FIFA was super corrupt. Sounds about right. Wasn't
there some big problem with FIFA. There's maybe even a
documentary about I can't remember now. The only FIFA that
I know of is the I'm not gonna lie the
play PlayStation five video game, which I am really good at,
like very good. I probably play it too much. I
find it very relaxing for the mind. It's a very
(01:08):
I really don't watch TV very much. I'll watch shows
here and there, Carrie and I. I think we're about
to start watching Task, which has got the annoying actor
who has the really left wing politics, Mark Ruffalo. But
I've heard it's good on HBO. I just I like
to watch on the weekends with you know, a little WiFi.
(01:30):
Time we put Speed to sleep. I had Speed myself.
Last night Carrie went out for a girls' night, went
out dance, you know when it went out not dancing,
but you know, went out to dinner, had fun with
the ladies and everything else. She says, you want to come,
I said, you know what, I'm just going to rock
out with Speed. You know, we watched a samurai show.
That's that's what did two guys do when when WiFi
(01:52):
is out on the town with the ladies. It's art
Basel here this week in Miami, which is very fancy.
So everyone this is always the funny thing that happens.
Everyone always asks me, who comes down to Miami around
this time of year? Oh, what are you doing for Basil?
(02:13):
And I have to tell them, Well, the people who
know me already know this, but the people who don't
know me that well, I have to tell them whatever
does not require me to leave my home see people
or be in any traffic. The traffic here is total madness.
It's like the un General Assembly, but with fancy artwork
like you and General Assembly in New York, where it's
just gridlock everywhere. There's a lot of track. It's a
(02:33):
great event for Miami, and I'm glad everyone has fun
and there's parties and everything else. But you know, I'm
I was having a great time speed and I we're
watching the Samurai stuff. It's great. You know, it was
really fun. So why was it telling you? But oh yeah,
the show task. I'll probably check that out. It's tough
to find a good show, but I do. I do enjoy.
(02:53):
I got started playing the occasional video game during COVID
because I was locked at home just you know, eating
gluten free mac and cheese. We have Clay right now.
See look at the amazing tap dancing that I do
here while we're waiting for mister Clay Travis to call
us from the FIFA event. Hey, buddy, everyone's waiting for you.
How you doing.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's pretty spectacular, buck. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I'm just stepped out here in the grand foyer outside
of the theater where hopefully soon.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You know, they just had the Prime.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Minister of Canada and the President of Mexico and Trump on.
I don't know if people are watching. They're about to
start the draw sooner or later. But this thing is
really well done, very well put on. Roma Deravi. You
know who is has been on the show for is
one of the board members here. But they put on
an absolute spectacular show so far. They took over the
(03:49):
Kennedy Center FIFA did, and look a lot of people
are having this conversation, and I do think it's cool.
People say, Okay, well, why is the president involved?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
What's going on here?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I think tru one hundred percent sees this as a
huge part of America's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary celebration.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
He's going to have the UFC.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Fight, He's going to put on a show the likes
of which we haven't seen in a very long time.
And I think he wants the whole world to recognize
what pretty much everybody out there listening to us would
agree with, which is, this is the absolute best country
that's ever existed in the history of the world, and
we should put our best face forward for the two
(04:28):
hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the country, and so the
birthday celebration is going to include this incredible sporting festival
that hasn't been here in thirty years. So I think
it's gonna be awesome and I've got my fingers crossed.
I was out with our friend Alexi Lallis last night
for dinner, who you know, we've had on the show
quite a bit, the lead soccer analyst for Fox Sports,
(04:49):
and you know, he's already run through the best possible
draw for people who don't know. The draw can dictate
to a large extent whether you advance to the knockout stage,
and you know, hopefully we'll get a good draw here
in the next twenty thirty minutes. I don't know that
it's out there very publicly, but two of the games
are going to be played in Los Angeles for the
(05:09):
US men and one of them is going to be
played in Seattle. So they already know where the location
for the games are going to be for the US team,
but they don't know who's going to actually be playing.
So that's what we're waiting on right now for this
event to determine play.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
We are the best country, but unfortunately We're not the
best soccer team, that's for sure. How is the US
men's team. I'm sure you don't like to you talked
about this. Are they actually going to maybe get out
of the first knockout stage?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, so he felt good about them. So they now
have expanded the knockout stage to thirty two teams from sixteen,
and he felt good about them getting to the round
of thirty two. Again, we have to wait and see
exactly what the group play is going to be, but
he felt good about that. And look, we're around the
twelfth or thirteenth best team in the United States men
(06:04):
are And so yeah, I think that's about me for rankings.
Somebody in the studio can pull them up exactly. But
you know the problem is there's sometimes a big drop off.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
The talk is it's Spain.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It is Spain, France, Spain, France and England in addition
obviously to Brazil and Argentina and that caliber of teams.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
So what we have is not anywhere near.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
The talent that the elite programs have in the elite countries.
So we have to rely on some good fortune, good luck,
the ball bouncing our proverbial way in order to make
some noise, I think, and I will say, there was hope,
you know this, that this was going to be kind
of the golden generation, that we were going to have
a lot of good young players that all came together,
(06:54):
as sometimes occurs in countries. And I just think the
Christian pulistics of the world that we're supposed to be
the stars of this team have not necessarily advanced like
we would have hoped four years ago in terms of
becoming the best at what they do.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Now, how was it in there when Trump got his
Peace Award, the FIFA Peace Award? Or is there grumbling
about this from the journals? I mean, it's it's a
high five for Trump.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Oh yeah, the journals are furious in the sports media,
and you know this, it's it's It's kind of very
interesting when you think about it. In America, soccer is
kind of a sport for the left wing, I would say,
sort of the elite people, whereas in most of the
rest of the world, soccer is the game that all
(07:44):
the poor kids play. Right in America, it's kind of flipped.
Soccer tends to have a higher socioeconomic status, and so
soccer fans overwhelmingly Skew Democrat, right, you know, not necessarily
the Yay America, but just the hardcore soccer fans. They're
furious about it. But you know, I kind of love it.
(08:06):
But yes, that that element of the of the American
sports media is just throwing up their arms. And it's
I think kind of smart with Trump to lean in
on this, because you know, we were last night out
with some of the international soccer players at a FIFA
events and several of them were kind of rolling their
(08:26):
eyes at the idea of the European guys that Trump
was going to get this Peace Prize today, which again
I just think is absolutely spectacular.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Just throw them crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, I was gonna say, for nothing else, the trolling
value of Trump getting the award is fantastic. Something Clay
that that. I I'm just curious about the atmospherics here,
the the streets of DC. You're obviously with a lot
of DC residents there a lot of people live there,
the journals and others, White House staff. You know, give
Steven Miller a high five from from the Klay and
(08:58):
Buck Show, But is there talk about the streets really
feeling I know, we just had a horrible instant with
the National Guard, but that was really a terrorist attack.
Is there sense that things are safer from a crime.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Perspective, Yeah, I do think that's the case.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I mean I was talking to some people last night
and they said they just don't feel like they have
to look over their shoulder as much when they're going
around in DC. Now, like many cities, parts of d
C are comparatively safe.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
You know, the northwest d C, which is where the.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
White House is, tends to be safer than southeast, for instance,
for people who know the area. So the driving down
of violent crime, though, has been pretty spectacular across the board.
You know, we're talking about sixty percent declines to you know,
frankly lows of crime that we have not seen almost
in the history of the city of Washington. And you
(09:52):
know it's going well because you don't hear anything hardly
at all about the protest going on anymore. And I
will say I didn't see them, but there were evidently
going to be protesters outside of the Kennedy Center go
figure protesting Trump getting the Peace Award. And so when
(10:15):
I was walking in, I walked through a group of
DC cops and they were all talking about the fact
I heard them getting a briefing. They were saying, hey, guys,
just be aware, we're expecting some protesters to show up.
You know, they've got the area fenced so you have
to go through security because the presidents are here. But
but I was kind of hoping that I would see
(10:36):
you know, these but draggled you know, old people protesting
the World Cup and Trump getting the Peace Prize not
too similar to what we saw when we were up
here a little bit less than a year ago for
the inauguration. So there definitely is the sense that the
city is safer, but there's still that you know, tiny
baseline of absolute morons that will even show up to
(10:59):
protest a FEE event because they think that the president
is being honored too much at the FIFA event.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I also, you've got to get some reaction from the
journals that are settled there clay for me about how
this is a big week for Trump and peace because
not only did he get the FIFA Peace Prize, which
we let we played that live on air as he
was talking, you know, saying thank you and all that
he's renamed the Institute of Peace for himself.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, no, Look, I mean I actually thought Trump's accepted
speech was relatively humble as Trump accepted speeches go, But
he immediately put his Gold Medal of Peace on, which
has got everybody losing their minds. And let's be honest,
I mean, he should have gotten the Nobel Piece Prize.
So the fact that FIFA has created their own Peace
(11:48):
Prize and that he is the inaugural recipient is somewhat funny,
but again I think speaks to the good relationship that
he has with the president of FIFA, and I get
the President of FIFA credit because again, there are lots
of European countries that are soccer watching this right now live.
You know, they say up to a billion people maybe
(12:09):
watching this this World Cup draw, which is crazy right
to think about around the world because it's such a
big deal to see who you're going to play and
where you're going to play. And so the President understands
certainly speaking to big audiences. But there are a lot
of diehard soccer fans that are furious that Trump got
the Peace Prize, which frankly I love.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Ah me too. Well. Clay, thank you for doing some
on the scene sports correspondence for us here.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Very good stuff, no doubt, I'll send you a memo
if we get a voice memo, you guys can yes,
if we get a good draw, and I'll break it
down the likely success here. I might even pass the
phone to Alexi Wallace and let him be the official
expert analyst of the DRAFA fantastic here.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Sure we're here, we're live, let us know, and we
will certainly also talk to you on Monday. So if
I don't talk to you, that, have a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Man, all right, everybody else out there too, and fingers crossed,
we'd get a good draw here very shortly.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh everyone's it's baited breath from all the SEC football
fans about the US soccer US soccer bracket. We'll see
how this goes, so thank you, Clay. All right, Look
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Speaker 1 (14:27):
All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
It was fun to have played call us live from
the scene of the FIFA bracket draw, which he says
has a billion people worldwide watching. People like not so
much in America, but somewhat in America. But people like
their soccer. Like you guys can make your jokes all
(14:48):
day about about soccer, but it is a very popular
thing around the world. Some of you like soccer. Some
of you, I'm sure are are fans. I would I
would guess like twe Actually, I wonder what the nationwide
numbers are for people describing themselves as soccer fans. All right, whatever,
That's not something we had spent too much time on.
(15:11):
I did want to update you on this because I
had mentioned it and now Fox News is reporting it.
I had seen it was one of these chain of
reportage situations where it was someone saying that someone said
that somebody, you know, talk to somebody at CNN or something,
and you know that was a little bit removed. But
(15:31):
here's what we've got now on this guy, Brian Cole Junior.
He is the one who was arrested by the FBI
for the pipe bomb leaving the pipe bombs in front
of the RNC and the DNC. Fox reporting that sources
close to the investigation are saying that this guy had
(15:52):
he doubted the twenty twenty presidential election outcome and he's
making his first federal court appearance later today. He has
made multiple statements to law enforcement, so he has weighed
in on this. Now a second source telling Fox News
(16:12):
here the suspect's possible motivation just one piece of information
in an active ongoing investigation. There is not a full
picture of the suspect that has emerged. Now here's what
I can tell you. They are already running with this
as though it is a FATECH complie. It is a
(16:34):
certainty that this guy is a Trump supporter. That that
is what they are saying, that this guy is a
Trump supporter, and therefore, you know, part of all of
the political violence, et cetera of January sixth. Notice this,
first of all, I'm not saying that I'm telling you
what they are saying, and that it may be the
(16:55):
case that he viewed himself as a Trump spport. He's
also a crazy person. But one thing that you will
notice very much or right away, they aren't waiting for
more facts on this mote all of a sudden, all
the cases, to think of all the times where there's
a manifesto left behind and there's a and it couldn't
be any more obvious who we're dealing with the same
(17:19):
thing with whether it was the guy who tried to
shoot Trump. They were trying to say there were efforts
to make it sound like the guy who tried to
shoot Trump and shot him in the year was it
was somehow actually a Trump supporter. I mean, they will
say anything, so I'm very aware of that. I'm very
aware of the dishonesty that the media will engage in
to score political points on this stuff. But they're not
(17:40):
going to wait for more facts. They're gonna be running
with an ms now CNN all week and all the
conversations all weekend are going to be, oh, well, we
have this, he didn't like it or he didn't trust
the twenty twenty election. So clearly this guy is naga.
That's what they're going to be saying. Will continue to
look at the facts as they come in, and it's
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to Clay and Buck. We are joined now by Senator
Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma. Senator. Always good to talk
to you. Thanks for making the time for us.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Oh, absolutely glad to be on your show again.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
So Clay is out today, he sends his regards. He
is hanging out with the President and others at the
Kennedy Center for FIFA. Before we get into serious things,
I'm going to kind of reverse the order here, usually
getting the less serious things toward the end. But are you,
at least for today a soccer fan. Where do you
come down on this?
Speaker 5 (19:26):
I don't know the first thing about soccer at all.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Zero non, Okay, I like the honesty. I had a
feeling I didn't want I'm not trying to typecast you,
but I had a feeling you might go in that
direction that you were going to tell me that you're
like a big Manchester City fan or something. So anyway, okay,
just getting that.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Name you a player or a team. Uh and but
you just said Manchester So there I can name you
that one.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
But one transition piece I could I could give you
on this noose, Senator, is President Trump got an award,
the FIFA Peace Award, which well, whether it's a new award, right,
so it doesn't have quite the esteem of say the
Nobel Prize. But with a billion people apparently watching this
event at the Kennedy Center, the President, i say, is
(20:12):
getting this peace award from his international body. I can
tell you the journals very unhappy about it, very unhappy.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Well, I don't any journalists. It seems like for the
most part, not you guys, but most of these journalists
are so left wing they can't stand to president. But
think about this, saying, how many countries he's brought peace
to since he's been in office, there has been nine
wars he stopped, so that you could say eighteen countries
and almost everyone in these countries, you know, they appreciate
(20:40):
sports and soccer too. And you know, one thing we
do do. One thing my office we work with is
the US a Athletic Department. So when you start talking
about I say Department US Athletics, be it from the
world to the Olympic side of things. We work with
their getting pieces. We started with their wrestling community because
(21:00):
obviously that's what we do, uh, and that's what my
family does, that's what my kids do, That's what I did,
is wrestle and and so we worked so well with
that that we've helped with this process getting tough countries
visus to come in here to be to compete. And
we're doing the same thing with the Olympic program too,
So we've that's that's that's my extent of helping with
(21:21):
bringing you know, I guess they say football, we cut
say soccer to to help with make sure it's a
great event here again.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Turning us to the international scene here and taking us
in a different direction toward UH national security war and
peace these strikes. I've played some of the audio before
the strikes on the Narco boats coming from Venezuela toward
the United States, and they've been taken out. I think
we're getting close to now one hundred who will have
been who will have been killed in this process of
(21:52):
these strikes, maybe a dozen or so boats, something like
a few dozen boats. There was all this uh allegation
swirling in the media. Allegations were swirling the media about
this as a war crime. I played Senator Cotton, your colleague.
He seems entirely satisfied the strikes were lawful and legitimate.
I wanted you to weigh in on this.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Yes, absolutely, one hundred percent. Any Democrat that comes out
right now that saw this briefing, that saw the video,
that's had opportunity to read it, anyone that comes to
any other conclusion is flat lying to you, one hundred percent,
completely lying to you. Now, those that haven't got the briefing,
and those that haven't read their documents, and those that
haven't saw the video, they've chose to be ignorant on
(22:36):
it because they the White House has made it accessible
to them, and so there's no exhues for you talking
on the point of ignorance, because if you're going to
be talking about the subject, you should and you think
you're passionate about it, So you're going to complain about
the administration for doing something wrong, then at least be
smart enough to go get the facts, because anybody that
watches it knows itout a doubt. This was a good hit.
(22:59):
These individuals wasn't just floating in the water. They were
actively trying and this isn't classified information. They were actually
trying to get the boat back right side up, and
they were also communicating with another boat that was in
the area that we know was trying to come and
pick them up. And it is very very very clear
(23:20):
when it goes to where the requirements are for the
Navy or the coastcard to intercept and rescue stranded people
and open water, and when they are not to put
a person, meaning a service member in harm's way to
do so when they're considered an enemy force, which the
(23:40):
terrorist organizations are terrorists. We deemed them terrastds. We know
that they carry arms in these boats.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
We don't.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
That's not a maybe we know they do. We do
know that this was an active terrorist organization that was
actively trying to bring poison drugs into our into our country.
And so without question, this was a good hit. And
I'm glad these individuals are on the bottom of the ocean.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
You are on the Armed Services Committee in the US Senate,
and just for all I know you know that, but
for all of our listeners, and so you're very much
getting brief. You're in the know on what's going on here,
the situation of Maduro and Venezuela. What can you tell
us about the trajectory here and what the Trump administration
(24:30):
is seeking as the endgame.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
We want Marduro to leave, and we gave him an opportunity,
even though we have a reward for him to be
taken out live or dead doesn't really make any difference
to us. We have told him he could leave peacefully
if he chose to go to a different country. His
country has made it very clear that they do not
want him there. This was used to be a democracy.
(24:53):
Now that he has turned it into a dictator slash
communist country. He's absolutely runt the country. He's destabilized the
entire region because Venezuela used to be this great democracy
that had a strong economy he is, he has now
turned it into his playground for terrorism and uh and
drugs instead of the great economy used to be. So
(25:17):
the President has made it very clear, we will allow
you to go to Russia. Well, I shall allow you
to go to the country you choose to go to,
but you can't stay where you're at.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Now.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
That doesn't mean that we're going to commit troops to
the country. That's not what we're That's not what we
we've committed to do. What we will do, though, is
if we have labs that are making them narcotics, that
are killing our friends and family and loved ones on
our on our streets, in our towns and in our states,
that we will strike those inside Venezuela if we have to.
(25:51):
We're able to do that because we've done this with
terriiff organizations all over the world. I mean, you think
about you know, for these Democrats are throwing fit about
the President using this kinetic force. They never said a
word when Obama when he killed his thousands with drone
strikes and air strikes to same terrorist organizations that the
(26:13):
United States that deemed is A terrorists as terrorist organizations.
So I have zero issue with what's happening, And I
think the President's approach to Venezuela is spot on.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Senator Mark WAYN Mullen with us now of Oklahoma, something
I wanted you to weigh in on, and I know
that this is something you have a personal understanding of,
which is the position of American ranchers and the beef industry.
You know this has come up a bunch with Trump
and the tariff talks. Just can you tell us how's
it going for American ranchers right now? And is there
(26:48):
any policy fixed change or addition that should be made
because having a robust beef industry not just because I
love a good steak, it's my favorite actual food, but
how how is that? How is that part of our
economy doing? And how's the Trump administration working to bolster it?
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Well, it's tough.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
You know.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
We're a cowcav operation. We have a lot of a
lot of a lot of a lot of cattle and
we see the prices drop sharply. There's been a lot
of dispute from those of us that sell on the hoof.
That means the cow or the steer itself that we're selling.
We call that on the hoof but there's a big
difference between what we get market price and what is
(27:29):
selling out of the meat packers by the box, beef
by the box, huge difference in pricing. What we don't
understand is why the pricing has continued to drop. The
President had put out a couple of statements in the market,
in my opinion, overreacted on it. And then the President
said he was going to start investigating the big four
meat packers for price fixing, which we feel like they are.
(27:53):
And then immediately saw Tyson come out and said they're
closing their doors, which they did, and so you got
three major meat packers left. And the interesting thing is
all three of those are foreign owned and they're controlling
the market. It's not a free market when you when
you consolidated that much. And it's very tough to be
a rancher today. There is any startup branches today that
(28:13):
you can't do that. You either own your land and
you're running cattle on it. So your landowner that has
cattle on it, or you know you're you're going broke
because you can't have you can't have both. Used to
when I first start started, you could run cattle and
purchase land based on the land and how many and
how many heads you thought you could run on it,
that would make sense. Today, land prices are so high,
(28:36):
tractor prices are so high, your input costs from your fertilizer,
to your seed, uh, to grain, and to labor costs.
It doesn't make any sense if you're trying to make
a land payment on top of that with cattle alone.
So it's a very very tough industry, and it's one
of the few, it's the only it's the only protein
industry that has it consolidated into corporate farms.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
You see it.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
You know chicken as chicken and pork obviously consolidated into
corporate arms. Beef is We have been able to prevent
that from happening, but if we don't take a hard,
complete look at this, you could see where that might
turn into it because it's very difficult. Hoof prices right
now are not hoop prices that are heard or is
(29:18):
down to the level of nineteen fifty three and only
getting worse because right now people are going to are
having to sell off. They were trying to sell off
because of prices, but they got some loans on some
of this stuff. They've got to sell at low prices,
so they're trying to have to sell morehead than what
they've even anticipated to do.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Senator, can I ask you just in the realm of
what might be helpful or you know way more about
this industry than I do. I'm totally a student here.
I have no expertise at all other than as I said,
I want to robust, robust meat industry, domestic meat industry
here in America for a whole bunch of reasons. To
that end, is there an adjustment that should be made
(29:57):
to country of origin labeling so that people know, you know,
my beef or my chicken whatever is from here in
America in the hard land.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
You could do that.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Studies to show that it probably wouldn't make that big
of a difference for those that need because they're still
going to buy by the price they are going to be.
They're just they're going to purchase things that they can afford.
What we really probably need to start looking at is
there's cop there's crop prices, so there's always a backstop
for the for for the farmers. We might have to
be looking at some point that there's a backstop for
(30:29):
ranchers too, kind of like there's crop insurance, we maybe
have to look at something of beef insurance. There used
to be that out there, but it's just not affordable today.
And so we've had a lot of conversations with the
farmers and our ranchers combined. But beef is just so
so so unique, and so we've Congress is really good
(30:50):
at working off emergencies and waiting until the last minute,
and sometimes it's too late. I think that these conversations
that we're having is helpful, but we're nowhere near trying
to figure out how to happen and how to make
it work. Because at the same time, there's a lot
of ranchers out there and say, hey, just the best
thing government can do is just get out of our way,
just let the market work. Just don't don't touch us.
(31:12):
And there's a lot to be said about that. But
then there's the other ones that's saying, we can't afford
to go unless there's somebody back in US and banks.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
And I think just think for a senator, for people
like me that don't know much. I mean, the American
beef industry, just a quick search on it. It's one
hundred billion dollar industry. It's a big deal, right. It
matters a big industry, matters to our economy, matters the country.
So well, we'll continue to look at that and obviously
if at any point there's something you want to bring
(31:40):
to our attention on that one, there's something I think
that really hits home with people what goes on their plate,
whether chicken, beef, pork, whatever it may be. We want
to make sure we get the best, we get the
best pricing, and that we have it here from America
whenever possible. Senator, appreciate you making the time for us today.
You have a great weekend.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Thanks Buck, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
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Welcome back to Clay and Buck. We'll talk to Isabelle
Brown here coming up in a moment, uh, and that
will be very interesting because she was on CNN last
night and sitting there in the cauldron of madness that
is the CNN round Table, whatever that show is. I
don't remember the name of the show, but it doesn't matter.
See and the one with Scott Jennings that he goes on
to where you get the This is the only the
(33:36):
only thing Democrats can do to get anyone to watch
these days is just put up these clay pigeons who
get blown to smithereens by conservatives on the air over
and over again. That's it. That's all they've got, uh,
speaking of getting getting the rough stuff. So you might
have seen that. I believe Trump. I believe the President
(33:57):
said that Tim Walls was hearted, right, isn't that? Am
I right on that? I'm just quoting him. I don't
think people. People are not now saying the R word
instead they actually will just say retarded. So I believe
that President Trump said that Tim Wallas has retarded. Tim
Walls is very upset because this has now created for
(34:19):
the governor of Minnesota a situation where now a lot
of people are in fact calling him retarded. This has
cut five Listen, hello.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
This creates danger. And I'll tell you what, in my
time on this I'd never seen this before. People driving
my house by my house and using the R word
in front of people.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
This is shameful.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
And I have yet to see an elected official, a
Republican elected official, say you're right, that's shameful. He should
not say it. So look, I'm worried. We know how
these things go. They start with taunts, they turn to violence.
So deeply concerned.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yes, the lecture that Tim Walls is giving us now
about the word used by a guy who was shot
through the year while he was running for president and
then had some other sniper setting up on him on
a golf course a month later. We need lectures about
violence from mean rhetoric from Democrats. Sure we do. This
is just one of these things, though, where because Tim
(35:19):
Walls does not want he clearly is very bothered by
Trump referring to referring to him as retarded, he does
not want to.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Rather, because he says that bothers him, a lot more
people are going to say it everyone from the schoolyard.
You know this, when when you get taunted with something
you say, don't call me that. The people who are
taunting you, they're going to lean into it even more.
But it is a reminder that Tim Walls is a
remarkably inept fellow and presided over one of the most
(35:52):
as governor. One of the most breathtaking and obvious and
really gross frauds in recent memory in this country where
you have all these Somali immigrants pretending that they're helping
children who are hungry and buying themselves cars and houses
with the money, and Tim Walls his government in Minnesota
(36:16):
just like doesn't care if anything. They probably figured, well,
we turn a blind eye to this, and now it's
more Somali votes for the Democrat machine that's continuing to
keep this money flowing. So you know, he can say,
don't call me the R word, but Trump's gonna keep
calling him the R word. We're gonna talk to Isabel
Brown here coming up in a moment, So stick around
(36:36):
for that and much more. Team a big Hour three
getting ready to send you off for the weekend. Stick around,
Thanks for being here with us. We will get updates
for you. I know you're on the edge of your seats.
You're like Buck forget about the fate of the republic.
Who cares about the economy? War and peace in the
Caribbean with Venezuela. None of those things matter until we
know the US men's national soccer team draw. So we'll
(00:21):
get you that information as good as we can. They're playing,
you know, Spain, Argentina and Bolivia. Who are they playing?
We'll get you that one week. Can I promise I
will not leave that off of our list of things
to inform you of today. Yeah, clays out the FIFA.
Van Trump just got the FIFA Piece Award. I think
(00:44):
years ago FIFA was super corrupt. Sounds about right. Wasn't
there some big problem with FIFA. There's maybe even a
documentary about I can't remember now. The only FIFA that
I know of is the I'm not gonna lie the
play PlayStation five video game, which I am really good at,
like very good. I probably play it too much. I
find it very relaxing for the mind. It's a very
(01:08):
I really don't watch TV very much. I'll watch shows
here and there, Carrie and I. I think we're about
to start watching Task, which has got the annoying actor
who has the really left wing politics, Mark Ruffalo. But
I've heard it's good on HBO. I just I like
to watch on the weekends with you know, a little WiFi.
(01:30):
Time we put Speed to sleep. I had Speed myself.
Last night Carrie went out for a girls' night, went
out dance, you know when it went out not dancing,
but you know, went out to dinner, had fun with
the ladies and everything else. She says, you want to come,
I said, you know what, I'm just going to rock
out with Speed. You know, we watched a samurai show.
That's that's what did two guys do when when WiFi
(01:52):
is out on the town with the ladies. It's art
Basel here this week in Miami, which is very fancy.
So everyone this is always the funny thing that happens.
Everyone always asks me, who comes down to Miami around
this time of year? Oh, what are you doing for Basil?
(02:13):
And I have to tell them, Well, the people who
know me already know this, but the people who don't
know me that well, I have to tell them whatever
does not require me to leave my home see people
or be in any traffic. The traffic here is total madness.
It's like the un General Assembly, but with fancy artwork
like you and General Assembly in New York, where it's
just gridlock everywhere. There's a lot of track. It's a
(02:33):
great event for Miami, and I'm glad everyone has fun
and there's parties and everything else. But you know, I'm
I was having a great time speed and I we're
watching the Samurai stuff. It's great. You know, it was
really fun. So why was it telling you? But oh yeah,
the show task. I'll probably check that out. It's tough
to find a good show, but I do. I do enjoy.
(02:53):
I got started playing the occasional video game during COVID
because I was locked at home just you know, eating
gluten free mac and cheese. We have Clay right now.
See look at the amazing tap dancing that I do
here while we're waiting for mister Clay Travis to call
us from the FIFA event. Hey, buddy, everyone's waiting for you.
How you doing.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's pretty spectacular, buck. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I'm just stepped out here in the grand foyer outside
of the theater where hopefully soon.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You know, they just had the Prime.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Minister of Canada and the President of Mexico and Trump on.
I don't know if people are watching. They're about to
start the draw sooner or later. But this thing is
really well done, very well put on. Roma Deravi. You
know who is has been on the show for is
one of the board members here. But they put on
an absolute spectacular show so far. They took over the
(03:49):
Kennedy Center FIFA did, and look a lot of people
are having this conversation, and I do think it's cool.
People say, Okay, well, why is the president involved?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
What's going on here?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I think tru one hundred percent sees this as a
huge part of America's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary celebration.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
He's going to have the UFC.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Fight, He's going to put on a show the likes
of which we haven't seen in a very long time.
And I think he wants the whole world to recognize
what pretty much everybody out there listening to us would
agree with, which is, this is the absolute best country
that's ever existed in the history of the world, and
we should put our best face forward for the two
(04:28):
hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the country, and so the
birthday celebration is going to include this incredible sporting festival
that hasn't been here in thirty years. So I think
it's gonna be awesome and I've got my fingers crossed.
I was out with our friend Alexi Lallis last night
for dinner, who you know, we've had on the show
quite a bit, the lead soccer analyst for Fox Sports,
(04:49):
and you know, he's already run through the best possible
draw for people who don't know. The draw can dictate
to a large extent whether you advance to the knockout stage,
and you know, hopefully we'll get a good draw here
in the next twenty thirty minutes. I don't know that
it's out there very publicly, but two of the games
are going to be played in Los Angeles for the
(05:09):
US men and one of them is going to be
played in Seattle. So they already know where the location
for the games are going to be for the US team,
but they don't know who's going to actually be playing.
So that's what we're waiting on right now for this
event to determine play.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
We are the best country, but unfortunately We're not the
best soccer team, that's for sure. How is the US
men's team. I'm sure you don't like to you talked
about this. Are they actually going to maybe get out
of the first knockout stage?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, so he felt good about them. So they now
have expanded the knockout stage to thirty two teams from sixteen,
and he felt good about them getting to the round
of thirty two. Again, we have to wait and see
exactly what the group play is going to be, but
he felt good about that. And look, we're around the
twelfth or thirteenth best team in the United States men
(06:04):
are And so yeah, I think that's about me for rankings.
Somebody in the studio can pull them up exactly. But
you know the problem is there's sometimes a big drop off.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
The talk is it's Spain.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It is Spain, France, Spain, France and England in addition
obviously to Brazil and Argentina and that caliber of teams.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
So what we have is not anywhere near.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
The talent that the elite programs have in the elite countries.
So we have to rely on some good fortune, good luck,
the ball bouncing our proverbial way in order to make
some noise, I think, and I will say, there was hope,
you know this, that this was going to be kind
of the golden generation, that we were going to have
a lot of good young players that all came together,
(06:54):
as sometimes occurs in countries. And I just think the
Christian pulistics of the world that we're supposed to be
the stars of this team have not necessarily advanced like
we would have hoped four years ago in terms of
becoming the best at what they do.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Now, how was it in there when Trump got his
Peace Award, the FIFA Peace Award? Or is there grumbling
about this from the journals? I mean, it's it's a
high five for Trump.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Oh yeah, the journals are furious in the sports media,
and you know this, it's it's It's kind of very
interesting when you think about it. In America, soccer is
kind of a sport for the left wing, I would say,
sort of the elite people, whereas in most of the
rest of the world, soccer is the game that all
(07:44):
the poor kids play. Right in America, it's kind of flipped.
Soccer tends to have a higher socioeconomic status, and so
soccer fans overwhelmingly Skew Democrat, right, you know, not necessarily
the Yay America, but just the hardcore soccer fans. They're
furious about it. But you know, I kind of love it.
(08:06):
But yes, that that element of the of the American
sports media is just throwing up their arms. And it's
I think kind of smart with Trump to lean in
on this, because you know, we were last night out
with some of the international soccer players at a FIFA
events and several of them were kind of rolling their
(08:26):
eyes at the idea of the European guys that Trump
was going to get this Peace Prize today, which again
I just think is absolutely spectacular.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Just throw them crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, I was gonna say, for nothing else, the trolling
value of Trump getting the award is fantastic. Something Clay
that that. I I'm just curious about the atmospherics here,
the the streets of DC. You're obviously with a lot
of DC residents there a lot of people live there,
the journals and others, White House staff. You know, give
Steven Miller a high five from from the Klay and
(08:58):
Buck Show, But is there talk about the streets really
feeling I know, we just had a horrible instant with
the National Guard, but that was really a terrorist attack.
Is there sense that things are safer from a crime.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Perspective, Yeah, I do think that's the case.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I mean I was talking to some people last night
and they said they just don't feel like they have
to look over their shoulder as much when they're going
around in DC. Now, like many cities, parts of d
C are comparatively safe.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
You know, the northwest d C, which is where the.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
White House is, tends to be safer than southeast, for instance,
for people who know the area. So the driving down
of violent crime, though, has been pretty spectacular across the board.
You know, we're talking about sixty percent declines to you know,
frankly lows of crime that we have not seen almost
in the history of the city of Washington. And you
(09:52):
know it's going well because you don't hear anything hardly
at all about the protest going on anymore. And I
will say I didn't see them, but there were evidently
going to be protesters outside of the Kennedy Center go
figure protesting Trump getting the Peace Award. And so when
(10:15):
I was walking in, I walked through a group of
DC cops and they were all talking about the fact
I heard them getting a briefing. They were saying, hey, guys,
just be aware, we're expecting some protesters to show up.
You know, they've got the area fenced so you have
to go through security because the presidents are here. But
but I was kind of hoping that I would see
(10:36):
you know, these but draggled you know, old people protesting
the World Cup and Trump getting the Peace Prize not
too similar to what we saw when we were up
here a little bit less than a year ago for
the inauguration. So there definitely is the sense that the
city is safer, but there's still that you know, tiny
baseline of absolute morons that will even show up to
(10:59):
protest a FEE event because they think that the president
is being honored too much at the FIFA event.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I also, you've got to get some reaction from the
journals that are settled there clay for me about how
this is a big week for Trump and peace because
not only did he get the FIFA Peace Prize, which
we let we played that live on air as he
was talking, you know, saying thank you and all that
he's renamed the Institute of Peace for himself.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, no, Look, I mean I actually thought Trump's accepted
speech was relatively humble as Trump accepted speeches go, But
he immediately put his Gold Medal of Peace on, which
has got everybody losing their minds. And let's be honest,
I mean, he should have gotten the Nobel Piece Prize.
So the fact that FIFA has created their own Peace
(11:48):
Prize and that he is the inaugural recipient is somewhat funny,
but again I think speaks to the good relationship that
he has with the president of FIFA, and I get
the President of FIFA credit because again, there are lots
of European countries that are soccer watching this right now live.
You know, they say up to a billion people maybe
(12:09):
watching this this World Cup draw, which is crazy right
to think about around the world because it's such a
big deal to see who you're going to play and
where you're going to play. And so the President understands
certainly speaking to big audiences. But there are a lot
of diehard soccer fans that are furious that Trump got
the Peace Prize, which frankly I love.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Ah me too. Well. Clay, thank you for doing some
on the scene sports correspondence for us here.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Very good stuff, no doubt, I'll send you a memo
if we get a voice memo, you guys can yes,
if we get a good draw, and I'll break it
down the likely success here. I might even pass the
phone to Alexi Wallace and let him be the official
expert analyst of the DRAFA fantastic here.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Sure we're here, we're live, let us know, and we
will certainly also talk to you on Monday. So if
I don't talk to you, that, have a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Man, all right, everybody else out there too, and fingers crossed,
we'd get a good draw here very shortly.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh everyone's it's baited breath from all the SEC football
fans about the US soccer US soccer bracket. We'll see
how this goes, so thank you, Clay. All right, Look
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Speaker 1 (14:27):
All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
It was fun to have played call us live from
the scene of the FIFA bracket draw, which he says
has a billion people worldwide watching. People like not so
much in America, but somewhat in America. But people like
their soccer. Like you guys can make your jokes all
(14:48):
day about about soccer, but it is a very popular
thing around the world. Some of you like soccer. Some
of you, I'm sure are are fans. I would I
would guess like twe Actually, I wonder what the nationwide
numbers are for people describing themselves as soccer fans. All right, whatever,
That's not something we had spent too much time on.
(15:11):
I did want to update you on this because I
had mentioned it and now Fox News is reporting it.
I had seen it was one of these chain of
reportage situations where it was someone saying that someone said
that somebody, you know, talk to somebody at CNN or something,
and you know that was a little bit removed. But
(15:31):
here's what we've got now on this guy, Brian Cole Junior.
He is the one who was arrested by the FBI
for the pipe bomb leaving the pipe bombs in front
of the RNC and the DNC. Fox reporting that sources
close to the investigation are saying that this guy had
(15:52):
he doubted the twenty twenty presidential election outcome and he's
making his first federal court appearance later today. He has
made multiple statements to law enforcement, so he has weighed
in on this. Now a second source telling Fox News
(16:12):
here the suspect's possible motivation just one piece of information
in an active ongoing investigation. There is not a full
picture of the suspect that has emerged. Now here's what
I can tell you. They are already running with this
as though it is a FATECH complie. It is a
(16:34):
certainty that this guy is a Trump supporter. That that
is what they are saying, that this guy is a
Trump supporter, and therefore, you know, part of all of
the political violence, et cetera of January sixth. Notice this,
first of all, I'm not saying that I'm telling you
what they are saying, and that it may be the
(16:55):
case that he viewed himself as a Trump spport. He's
also a crazy person. But one thing that you will
notice very much or right away, they aren't waiting for
more facts on this mote all of a sudden, all
the cases, to think of all the times where there's
a manifesto left behind and there's a and it couldn't
be any more obvious who we're dealing with the same
(17:19):
thing with whether it was the guy who tried to
shoot Trump. They were trying to say there were efforts
to make it sound like the guy who tried to
shoot Trump and shot him in the year was it
was somehow actually a Trump supporter. I mean, they will
say anything, so I'm very aware of that. I'm very
aware of the dishonesty that the media will engage in
to score political points on this stuff. But they're not
(17:40):
going to wait for more facts. They're gonna be running
with an ms now CNN all week and all the
conversations all weekend are going to be, oh, well, we
have this, he didn't like it or he didn't trust
the twenty twenty election. So clearly this guy is naga.
That's what they're going to be saying. Will continue to
look at the facts as they come in, and it's
just just the early innings here, my friend. All right,
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to Clay and Buck. We are joined now by Senator
Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma. Senator. Always good to talk
to you. Thanks for making the time for us.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Oh, absolutely glad to be on your show again.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
So Clay is out today, he sends his regards. He
is hanging out with the President and others at the
Kennedy Center for FIFA. Before we get into serious things,
I'm going to kind of reverse the order here, usually
getting the less serious things toward the end. But are you,
at least for today a soccer fan. Where do you
come down on this?
Speaker 5 (19:26):
I don't know the first thing about soccer at all.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Zero non, Okay, I like the honesty. I had a
feeling I didn't want I'm not trying to typecast you,
but I had a feeling you might go in that
direction that you were going to tell me that you're
like a big Manchester City fan or something. So anyway, okay,
just getting that.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Name you a player or a team. Uh and but
you just said Manchester So there I can name you
that one.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
But one transition piece I could I could give you
on this noose, Senator, is President Trump got an award,
the FIFA Peace Award, which well, whether it's a new award, right,
so it doesn't have quite the esteem of say the
Nobel Prize. But with a billion people apparently watching this
event at the Kennedy Center, the President, i say, is
(20:12):
getting this peace award from his international body. I can
tell you the journals very unhappy about it, very unhappy.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Well, I don't any journalists. It seems like for the
most part, not you guys, but most of these journalists
are so left wing they can't stand to president. But
think about this, saying, how many countries he's brought peace
to since he's been in office, there has been nine
wars he stopped, so that you could say eighteen countries
and almost everyone in these countries, you know, they appreciate
(20:40):
sports and soccer too. And you know, one thing we
do do. One thing my office we work with is
the US a Athletic Department. So when you start talking
about I say Department US Athletics, be it from the
world to the Olympic side of things. We work with
their getting pieces. We started with their wrestling community because
(21:00):
obviously that's what we do, uh, and that's what my
family does, that's what my kids do, That's what I did,
is wrestle and and so we worked so well with
that that we've helped with this process getting tough countries
visus to come in here to be to compete. And
we're doing the same thing with the Olympic program too,
So we've that's that's that's my extent of helping with
(21:21):
bringing you know, I guess they say football, we cut
say soccer to to help with make sure it's a
great event here again.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Turning us to the international scene here and taking us
in a different direction toward UH national security war and
peace these strikes. I've played some of the audio before
the strikes on the Narco boats coming from Venezuela toward
the United States, and they've been taken out. I think
we're getting close to now one hundred who will have
been who will have been killed in this process of
(21:52):
these strikes, maybe a dozen or so boats, something like
a few dozen boats. There was all this uh allegation
swirling in the media. Allegations were swirling the media about
this as a war crime. I played Senator Cotton, your colleague.
He seems entirely satisfied the strikes were lawful and legitimate.
I wanted you to weigh in on this.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Yes, absolutely, one hundred percent. Any Democrat that comes out
right now that saw this briefing, that saw the video,
that's had opportunity to read it, anyone that comes to
any other conclusion is flat lying to you, one hundred percent,
completely lying to you. Now, those that haven't got the briefing,
and those that haven't read their documents, and those that
haven't saw the video, they've chose to be ignorant on
(22:36):
it because they the White House has made it accessible
to them, and so there's no exhues for you talking
on the point of ignorance, because if you're going to
be talking about the subject, you should and you think
you're passionate about it, So you're going to complain about
the administration for doing something wrong, then at least be
smart enough to go get the facts, because anybody that
watches it knows itout a doubt. This was a good hit.
(22:59):
These individuals wasn't just floating in the water. They were
actively trying and this isn't classified information. They were actually
trying to get the boat back right side up, and
they were also communicating with another boat that was in
the area that we know was trying to come and
pick them up. And it is very very very clear
(23:20):
when it goes to where the requirements are for the
Navy or the coastcard to intercept and rescue stranded people
and open water, and when they are not to put
a person, meaning a service member in harm's way to
do so when they're considered an enemy force, which the
(23:40):
terrorist organizations are terrorists. We deemed them terrastds. We know
that they carry arms in these boats.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
We don't.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
That's not a maybe we know they do. We do
know that this was an active terrorist organization that was
actively trying to bring poison drugs into our into our country.
And so without question, this was a good hit. And
I'm glad these individuals are on the bottom of the ocean.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
You are on the Armed Services Committee in the US Senate,
and just for all I know you know that, but
for all of our listeners, and so you're very much
getting brief. You're in the know on what's going on here,
the situation of Maduro and Venezuela. What can you tell
us about the trajectory here and what the Trump administration
(24:30):
is seeking as the endgame.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
We want Marduro to leave, and we gave him an opportunity,
even though we have a reward for him to be
taken out live or dead doesn't really make any difference
to us. We have told him he could leave peacefully
if he chose to go to a different country. His
country has made it very clear that they do not
want him there. This was used to be a democracy.
(24:53):
Now that he has turned it into a dictator slash
communist country. He's absolutely runt the country. He's destabilized the
entire region because Venezuela used to be this great democracy
that had a strong economy he is, he has now
turned it into his playground for terrorism and uh and
drugs instead of the great economy used to be. So
(25:17):
the President has made it very clear, we will allow
you to go to Russia. Well, I shall allow you
to go to the country you choose to go to,
but you can't stay where you're at.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Now.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
That doesn't mean that we're going to commit troops to
the country. That's not what we're That's not what we
we've committed to do. What we will do, though, is
if we have labs that are making them narcotics, that
are killing our friends and family and loved ones on
our on our streets, in our towns and in our states,
that we will strike those inside Venezuela if we have to.
(25:51):
We're able to do that because we've done this with
terriiff organizations all over the world. I mean, you think
about you know, for these Democrats are throwing fit about
the President using this kinetic force. They never said a
word when Obama when he killed his thousands with drone
strikes and air strikes to same terrorist organizations that the
(26:13):
United States that deemed is A terrorists as terrorist organizations.
So I have zero issue with what's happening, And I
think the President's approach to Venezuela is spot on.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Senator Mark WAYN Mullen with us now of Oklahoma, something
I wanted you to weigh in on, and I know
that this is something you have a personal understanding of,
which is the position of American ranchers and the beef industry.
You know this has come up a bunch with Trump
and the tariff talks. Just can you tell us how's
it going for American ranchers right now? And is there
(26:48):
any policy fixed change or addition that should be made
because having a robust beef industry not just because I
love a good steak, it's my favorite actual food, but
how how is that? How is that part of our
economy doing? And how's the Trump administration working to bolster it?
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Well, it's tough.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
You know.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
We're a cowcav operation. We have a lot of a
lot of a lot of a lot of cattle and
we see the prices drop sharply. There's been a lot
of dispute from those of us that sell on the hoof.
That means the cow or the steer itself that we're selling.
We call that on the hoof but there's a big
difference between what we get market price and what is
(27:29):
selling out of the meat packers by the box, beef
by the box, huge difference in pricing. What we don't
understand is why the pricing has continued to drop. The
President had put out a couple of statements in the market,
in my opinion, overreacted on it. And then the President
said he was going to start investigating the big four
meat packers for price fixing, which we feel like they are.
(27:53):
And then immediately saw Tyson come out and said they're
closing their doors, which they did, and so you got
three major meat packers left. And the interesting thing is
all three of those are foreign owned and they're controlling
the market. It's not a free market when you when
you consolidated that much. And it's very tough to be
a rancher today. There is any startup branches today that
(28:13):
you can't do that. You either own your land and
you're running cattle on it. So your landowner that has
cattle on it, or you know you're you're going broke
because you can't have you can't have both. Used to
when I first start started, you could run cattle and
purchase land based on the land and how many and
how many heads you thought you could run on it,
that would make sense. Today, land prices are so high,
(28:36):
tractor prices are so high, your input costs from your fertilizer,
to your seed, uh, to grain, and to labor costs.
It doesn't make any sense if you're trying to make
a land payment on top of that with cattle alone.
So it's a very very tough industry, and it's one
of the few, it's the only it's the only protein
industry that has it consolidated into corporate farms.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
You see it.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
You know chicken as chicken and pork obviously consolidated into
corporate arms. Beef is We have been able to prevent
that from happening, but if we don't take a hard,
complete look at this, you could see where that might
turn into it because it's very difficult. Hoof prices right
now are not hoop prices that are heard or is
(29:18):
down to the level of nineteen fifty three and only
getting worse because right now people are going to are
having to sell off. They were trying to sell off
because of prices, but they got some loans on some
of this stuff. They've got to sell at low prices,
so they're trying to have to sell morehead than what
they've even anticipated to do.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Senator, can I ask you just in the realm of
what might be helpful or you know way more about
this industry than I do. I'm totally a student here.
I have no expertise at all other than as I said,
I want to robust, robust meat industry, domestic meat industry
here in America for a whole bunch of reasons. To
that end, is there an adjustment that should be made
(29:57):
to country of origin labeling so that people know, you know,
my beef or my chicken whatever is from here in
America in the hard land.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
You could do that.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Studies to show that it probably wouldn't make that big
of a difference for those that need because they're still
going to buy by the price they are going to be.
They're just they're going to purchase things that they can afford.
What we really probably need to start looking at is
there's cop there's crop prices, so there's always a backstop
for the for for the farmers. We might have to
be looking at some point that there's a backstop for
(30:29):
ranchers too, kind of like there's crop insurance, we maybe
have to look at something of beef insurance. There used
to be that out there, but it's just not affordable today.
And so we've had a lot of conversations with the
farmers and our ranchers combined. But beef is just so
so so unique, and so we've Congress is really good
(30:50):
at working off emergencies and waiting until the last minute,
and sometimes it's too late. I think that these conversations
that we're having is helpful, but we're nowhere near trying
to figure out how to happen and how to make
it work. Because at the same time, there's a lot
of ranchers out there and say, hey, just the best
thing government can do is just get out of our way,
just let the market work. Just don't don't touch us.
(31:12):
And there's a lot to be said about that. But
then there's the other ones that's saying, we can't afford
to go unless there's somebody back in US and banks.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
And I think just think for a senator, for people
like me that don't know much. I mean, the American
beef industry, just a quick search on it. It's one
hundred billion dollar industry. It's a big deal, right. It
matters a big industry, matters to our economy, matters the country.
So well, we'll continue to look at that and obviously
if at any point there's something you want to bring
(31:40):
to our attention on that one, there's something I think
that really hits home with people what goes on their plate,
whether chicken, beef, pork, whatever it may be. We want
to make sure we get the best, we get the
best pricing, and that we have it here from America
whenever possible. Senator, appreciate you making the time for us today.
You have a great weekend.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Thanks Buck, appreciate it.
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Speaker 1 (33:14):
Welcome back to Clay and Buck. We'll talk to Isabelle
Brown here coming up in a moment, uh, and that
will be very interesting because she was on CNN last
night and sitting there in the cauldron of madness that
is the CNN round Table, whatever that show is. I
don't remember the name of the show, but it doesn't matter.
See and the one with Scott Jennings that he goes on
to where you get the This is the only the
(33:36):
only thing Democrats can do to get anyone to watch
these days is just put up these clay pigeons who
get blown to smithereens by conservatives on the air over
and over again. That's it. That's all they've got, uh,
speaking of getting getting the rough stuff. So you might
have seen that. I believe Trump. I believe the President
(33:57):
said that Tim Walls was hearted, right, isn't that? Am
I right on that? I'm just quoting him. I don't
think people. People are not now saying the R word
instead they actually will just say retarded. So I believe
that President Trump said that Tim Wallas has retarded. Tim
Walls is very upset because this has now created for
(34:19):
the governor of Minnesota a situation where now a lot
of people are in fact calling him retarded. This has
cut five Listen, hello.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
This creates danger. And I'll tell you what, in my
time on this I'd never seen this before. People driving
my house by my house and using the R word
in front of people.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
This is shameful.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
And I have yet to see an elected official, a
Republican elected official, say you're right, that's shameful. He should
not say it. So look, I'm worried. We know how
these things go. They start with taunts, they turn to violence.
So deeply concerned.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yes, the lecture that Tim Walls is giving us now
about the word used by a guy who was shot
through the year while he was running for president and
then had some other sniper setting up on him on
a golf course a month later. We need lectures about
violence from mean rhetoric from Democrats. Sure we do. This
is just one of these things, though, where because Tim
(35:19):
Walls does not want he clearly is very bothered by
Trump referring to referring to him as retarded, he does
not want to.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Rather, because he says that bothers him, a lot more
people are going to say it everyone from the schoolyard.
You know this, when when you get taunted with something
you say, don't call me that. The people who are
taunting you, they're going to lean into it even more.
But it is a reminder that Tim Walls is a
remarkably inept fellow and presided over one of the most
(35:52):
as governor. One of the most breathtaking and obvious and
really gross frauds in recent memory in this country where
you have all these Somali immigrants pretending that they're helping
children who are hungry and buying themselves cars and houses
with the money, and Tim Walls his government in Minnesota
(36:16):
just like doesn't care if anything. They probably figured, well,
we turn a blind eye to this, and now it's
more Somali votes for the Democrat machine that's continuing to
keep this money flowing. So you know, he can say,
don't call me the R word, but Trump's gonna keep
calling him the R word. We're gonna talk to Isabel
Brown here coming up in a moment, So stick around
(36:36):
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