Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Dec 5 2025

Steve Hilton: Hold My Beer 

Buck highlights two major fraud scandals in Minnesota and California, exposing systemic corruption tied to one-party rule and sanctuary policies. He highlights the staggering $300 million fraud in Minnesota’s child nutrition program and plays Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey’s evasive response. Buck then interviews Steve Hilton, who is running for governor of California, to discuss the state’s own crisis of waste and mismanagement. Hilton reveals shocking figures: $20 billion lost to unemployment fraud during the pandemic, $24 billion squandered on homelessness programs, and $13 billion allocated for free healthcare for illegal immigrants—all under Gavin Newsom’s leadership. 

Hilton details how California’s “homeless industrial complex” funnels taxpayer money into crony nonprofits and inflated housing projects, with units costing up to $1 million each while homelessness worsens. He also exposes Newsom’s failed promises, including a half-billion-dollar emergency communication system that doesn’t work, and warns of Newsom’s looming presidential ambitions backed by elite donors.  The discussion closes with sharp political insights into Kamala Harris’s declining influence, Josh Shapiro’s blunt criticism of her leadership, and the early maneuvering of California Democrats ahead of 2028. Hilton predicts a fierce battle among figures like Katie Porter, Tom Steyer, and Eric Swalwell, while emphasizing the urgent need to dismantle California’s entrenched political machine.

Clay Calls In from FIFA! 

Clay calls in from the FIFA World Cup draw event at the Kennedy Center, where President Donald Trump received the inaugural FIFA Peace Award. Clay describes the event’s global scale, Trump’s vision of tying the World Cup to America’s 250th anniversary celebrations, and the cultural clash between soccer’s left-leaning U.S. fan base and Trump’s presence. Buck and Clay discuss the international reaction, noting outrage from sports media and European elites, while highlighting Trump’s strategic use of global sports diplomacy.

Sen. Markwayne Mullin 

Senator Markwayne Mullin of Oklahoma provides critical insight into U.S. national security and economic policy. Mullin confirms the legality and necessity of recent military strikes on Venezuelan narco boats, dismissing war crime allegations as baseless and detailing classified briefings that show cartel operatives actively attempting to recover narcotics and communicate with reinforcements. He outlines the Trump administration’s strategy to pressure Nicolás Maduro to leave power, dismantle drug labs, and destabilize terrorist networks without committing U.S. ground troops. Mullin also addresses the American beef industry crisis, explaining collapsing cattle prices, foreign-owned meat packer monopolies, and the looming threat of corporate consolidation. He calls for potential policy solutions, including price-fixing investigations, insurance backstops for ranchers, and reforms to protect domestic protein production.

Isabel Brown: Make American Babies Again

Buck welcomes Isabel Brown, host of The Isabel Brown Show, for an in-depth conversation about her fiery appearance on CNN’s Abby Phillip panel. Isabelle recounts the tense exchange surrounding the arrest of Brian Cole Jr., the alleged January 6th pipe bomber, and exposes the media’s double standard in excusing political violence when it aligns with left-wing narratives. She highlights how the discussion devolved into partisan spin, with CNN panelists obsessing over race and hypothetical pardons rather than addressing the gravity of planting pipe bombs near the RNC and DNC. Isabelle calls out the cultural hypocrisy where “everything is violence except actual violence,” underscoring the growing ideological divide in mainstream media.

The conversation shifts to a deeply personal and cultural topic: the revival of the American family among Gen Z. Isabel shares her experience as a new mother and describes how parenthood has transformed her perspective, giving her a renewed sense of purpose. She and Buck explore the generational shift toward valuing marriage, faith, and family despite decades of anti-family messaging and declining fertility rates. They discuss how young Americans are rejecting toxic narratives, rediscovering traditional values, and even walking away from birth control and dating apps to pursue meaningful relationships. Isabel points to a spiritual awakening among Gen Z, coupled with a rejection of climate alarmism and corporate-driven isolation, as key drivers of this cultural renaissance. The segment also touches on lighter moments, including fashion trends like the return of baggy je

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Our guest here plading for governor of California. He lives
in California, and when he's hearing us talk about this
story of rampant and really disgraceful fraud in Minneapolis, he says, oh,
hold my beer, Minnesota, let me tell you about a
little place called California. Steve Hilton is with us now,

(00:21):
mister Hilton, thanks for coming back.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Of course, hey, but great to be with you. What
a disaster. I mean, here's the point, right. You look
at Minnesota and what's being revealed there, it is disgusting
and shocking. But in California, everything is a thousand times worse.
First of all, we've had one party rule for longer
in California. In minnesota's been three years, in California fifteen years.
And it's this one party rule that breeds this kind

(00:46):
of corruption and an abuse of taxpayer trust. And then
on top of that, we were the first state in
California to have a statewide sanctuary policy. We are the
home of the open borders insanity, and that idealogy is
still held deeply by the Democrats in charge here in California.
You can see the way they're fighting the President on

(01:06):
every aspect of his immigration agenda. And then you look
at the fraud that we already know about in California,
twenty billion dollars in the pandemic for just the employment department,
stolen by criminal gangs and people getting checks and they're
on death row and all this nonsense. Then you have
twenty four billion dollars the state auditor revealed lost on

(01:30):
homelessness spending that ended up in the pockets of crony
nonprofits and all this corruption there. And then you add
to that again this is official money that shouldn't be
being spent thirteen billion dollars this year in the budget
from Gavin Newston for free healthcare for illegal immigrants that
shouldn't even be here in the country. That's just my

(01:50):
basic math. You don't even need Tim Walt's level accounting skills.
That's fifty seven billion dollars that we know about, and
as before you get into the rest of the loaded
nanny state bureaucracy and welfare system here in California. So
that's why this week I did two things. I set
up a fraud hotline, because a tipline, because you saw

(02:12):
in Minnesota so many brave and honest state workers. They're
trying to blow the whistle on all this for years,
but being silenced and intimidated by Tim Wolds and the
Democrat machine. So I've set up a line califraud dot
Com for state workers in California to tell us what's
going on. And secondly, I've been in touch with Christy Nome,
who made that a shocking revelation at the cabinet meeting

(02:33):
this week that half of the visas that they looked
at in Minnesota were fraudulent. I said, look, we need
that kind of investigation here in California too. I wrote
her a letter about that. I've been talking to senior
leadership at DHS who agree with me that an investigation
is warranted. So hopefully we can make some progress on
exposing this kind of nonsense right here in California.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Twenty four billion dollars spend in California, as you called,
on the homeless and industrial complex. I mean, one thing
that I remember seeing is Gavin Newsom right when he
became governor the first time, talking about how.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
You know, I'm going to bring homelessness down to the
lowest rates.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
And it's gone nothing but up it's just home. The
homelessess problem in California has only gotten worse since he
has been in office.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
So what do they spend the twenty four billion dollars on?

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Well, I tell you, actually, just to sort of underline
the point, I think we're now in it the twenty
I lose track. I think it's the twenty second year
of Gavin Newsom's plan to end homelessness in ten years.
I mean, it's just a joke. The money goes, as
I said, into the pockets of there's the two. The
two big components of what we call the homeless industrial

(03:44):
complex are crony nonprofits who pretend to solve the homelessness problem,
but actually they're they're doing work that continues to let
it continue without being addressed. So, for example, they're providing
what they call permanent supportive housing, that is a euphemism
for a home with no strings attached. Is that costs

(04:07):
a fortune. I've got friends who are, you know, supporters
of mine in the house building industry, building apartments. Three
of all the government nonsense and all the corruptions attached
to this. Here in California, they can build an apartment
for I don't know two hundred and fifty three hundred
thousand dollars a door, as they call it. So that's
the unit cost. The cost for these homeless industrial complex apartments,

(04:28):
permanent supportive housing eight hundred thousand dollars nine hundred thousand
just now San Francis in the Bay Area a million dollars,
So it's four times the cost for exactly the same
kind of building. Why because it's being eaten up in
payments to the other component of it, not just the
crony nonprofits, but the crony affordable housing developers, all of

(04:51):
whom are massive donors to New some of the Democrat politicians,
both at the state level and locally, and they get
these massively inflated contenty to build this stuff, and they're
running away with the taxpayer money. And meanwhile the problem
gets worse because none of these units have any strings attached.
So people who we know that eighty percent plus of
people who are homeless have drug addiction or alcohol addiction

(05:13):
mental health problems, they get given these homes with those
strings attached, so they end up back on the street
dealing drugs, using drugs. It's just a total disaster, all
of it, totally corrupt, and we've got to bring it
into it.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
I speaking of building, I saw something where I think
it was supposed to be a moment of congratulations in
Los Angeles County. But Mayor Karen Bass correct me if
I'm wrong. They're they're applauding themselves because they just approved
the first like four bedroom house since the Palisades fire

(05:48):
devastated whole neighborhoods, whole areas of Los Angeles, they've approved
the four bedroom house to be rebuilt.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Oh bug, I'm so glad you mentioned this. I literally
was there yesterday afternoon. I walked right past it, made
little video and we'll be posting that, I think over
the weekend. So here's the deal. They trumpeted the first
house fully rebuilt after the fire. What's the truth about
this house. First of all, it's not a real house.
It's a show home built by developer. No one's ever

(06:16):
going to live in it. Secondly, it was all approved
and permitted before the fires. The fires. The one thing
that they didn't get was a permit for bulldozing what
was on the property beforehand, but that took care of
itself with the fires. They didn't need the permit so
the whole thing is a face, and this is what

(06:39):
they're trumpeting as a success. Reminded, right and just on
the day when Newsom is in DC saying we need
federal money, we need, we need, Trump's not giving us
the support that we need, when it was Gavin Newsom
nearly a year ago now who stood there in the
smoldering debris of the Palisades fire and told NBC News, well,
I've put the video clip out again, yes today to

(07:00):
remind people. I am developing a Marshall plan. That's his quote,
a Marshall plan to rebuild LA and it can barely
do one house. I mean, this guy's a complete joke.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
It's astonishing. We're speaking of Steve Hilton.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
He's running for governor in California, and I certainly hope
you're able to continue to make a lot of noise
about what's going on in in that state, Steve, because
it needs help. But I also wanted you to tell
us your take on this. You might have you probably
saw this. It got a little overshadowed by some other
news stories this week, but I'll just tell you.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
I'll tell you what happened.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Governor Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania was asked about his portrayal
in Kamala's awful book one hundred and seven Days, which
I will tell you just because I got to take
a bow for this one.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I read.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
I read so that somebody on this show, because I
told Clay only one of us has to hop on
this hand grenade, so I said, I will read.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
I'll read it. So I read one hundred seven Days.
It is terrible.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Felt like it was one hundred and seven days to
read it. And she basically said Shapiro was like arrogant
and this is in the.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Whole VP race component of her campaign. I bring it up.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Because Shapiro apparently just swatted this down with She's just
trying to cover her behind and she's an absolute crain wreck.
More or less is that I know that we you
and I feel that way because we can observe reality.
Are Democrats pretty cold on Pamela in California?

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yes, they don't want to see her back in any
kind of race. There was no support for her floating
the idea of running for governor. The donors weren't behind it,
the activists weren't behind it, and they said, please, that's
the last time we want. So that's so she even
in her home state for running for governor, there was
no support for that. And you've got to believe Shapiro

(08:54):
on this because we see the pattern with people like
Kamala Harris and with Gavin Newsom and with Biden. They're
all the same. They're these machine politicians. They don't believe
in anything. They'll say whatever is convenient to try and
climb that political ladder and further their careers. They have
no principles, no beliefs, no convictions, nothing, and that's why
they end up saying totally different things, contradictory things all

(09:17):
the time. They lie for a living. They are pathological liars,
and so on this particular one, you've got to assume
that Shapiro's right. But there's no appetite for Kamala Harris
here in California, just as there isn't across the country
if she decides to run for president.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Are you already seeing though the early efforts by the
Newsom for President Kevin right? Are you hearing the super
fancy fundraisers in Malibu or are they going to be getting
the r dervs ready here in short order order?

Speaker 1 (09:47):
What can you tell us about those machinations.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Well, not so much in Malibu because they haven't been
able to rebuild their homes in Malie.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Oh whoops, Yeah, I forgot about that. Somewhere else were
their fancy Beverly Hills.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
You've got to build the luxury mansions back before you
do that. Though I don't know, you're definitely, certainly there's
a that he's in a different category to Kamla. They
believe he's a winner, they really do. They think that
he's the guy. They are lining up behind him. I'm
hearing that definitely from the donor community in California. They're
going to be proud and excited to support him. So

(10:20):
you know, watch out America. The worst and as I
call him, Mugger, the most useless governor in America. He's
coming your way to try and replicate on the national
stage what he's done here in California, which is the
worst results in the country. The highest gas prices, the
highest electric bills, highest unemployment rate, highest poverty rate, highest
costs for everything that matters, fiftieth out of fifty states

(10:41):
on affordability, fiftieth out of fifty states on opportunity, And
this guy thinks can I just tell you one last
story if we have time? Sure, and got much attention,
This just came to light. It's such a newsome classic.
So just nearly seven years ago, in his first budget
as governor, he made a huge fuss about the fact
that the state's emergence the communication system was antiquated, analogue

(11:04):
total disaster, not fit for purpose if they're fires or
an earthquake. He was going to modernize the whole thing.
So here's what was announced this week. In the intervening
nearly seven years, they have spent half a billion dollars
on this new, essentially new phone line, and at the
end of it all, it doesn't work at all, and

(11:24):
they've just announced that they're scrapping the whole thing. This guy,
for half a billion dollars can't even produce a working
phone line and he wants to be president. I mean,
it's just such a joke.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I saw that your possible competition here. I don't think
she's announced yet, but people on the Democrats side talk
about the Katie Porter, but her numbers are looking a
little shaky because the more people know about Katie Porter,
it seems the less they want to support Katie Porter.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
For Governor of California.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Well, funny enough, I'm just in San Jose today. I
was just literally on the debate. It's not really a debate,
they call it a candidates forum, with Katie Porter and
a couple of the others, including billionaire climate fanatic Tom Steyer,
who I had great fun pointing out is one of
the main architects of the fact that everything's so expensive
in California. So she's still in the race. Her numbers

(12:17):
are down a little bit but not collapsed at all.
But the new entrant that we're all very excited to
see what happens with this, our friend Eric Swalwell, who's
now running. And so, as I say often, I can't
decide which who I'd rather face in the general election.
Katie Porter with the endless opportunity for mash potato jokes
or Eric with the endless opportunity for fang fang jokes.

(12:39):
I don't know. I don't know which to choose in
terms of my preference.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Amazing stuff. Thank you so much for being with us. Steve,
what's your website for Governor?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Steve Hilton for Governor dot com f o R Steve
Hilton for Governor dot com. We've got to beat this
Democrat machine, Sony, any help with that? Gratefully received, Thank
you bug.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Good to see you got to beat that mash all right.

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Speaker 2 (14:26):
Thanks for being here with us. We will get updates
for you. I know you're on the edge of your seats.
You're like Buck. Forget about the fate of the republic.
Who cares about the economy, war and peace in the
Caribbean with Venezuela. None of those things matter until we
know the US men's national soccer team draw so we

(14:47):
we'll get you that.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Information as set as we can.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
They're playing, you know, Spain, Argentina and Bolivia.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Who are they playing. We'll get you that one weekend.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
I promise I will not leave that off of our
list of things to inform you of today. Yeah, Clay's
out the FIFA vent Trump just got the FIFA Piece Award.
I think years ago FIFA was super corrupt. Sounds about right.
Wasn't there some big problem with FIFA. There's maybe even
a documentary about I can't remember now. The only FIFA

(15:19):
that I know of is the I'm not gonna lie
the play PlayStation five video game, which I am really
good at, like very good. I probably play it too much.
I find it very relaxing for the mind. It's a
very I really don't watch TV very much. I'll watch
shows here and there. Carrie and I. I think we're

(15:40):
about to start watching Task, which has got the annoying
actor who has the really left wing politics, Mark Ruffalo.
But I've heard it's good on HBO. I just I
like to watch on the weekends with you know, a
little WIFEI time we put Speed to sleep. I had
Speed myself last night. Kerry went out for a girls' night,

(16:02):
went out Dan, you know when it went out not dancing,
but you know, went out to dinner, had fun with
the ladies and everything else. She says, you want to come,
I said, you know what, I'm just going to rock
out with speed. You know, we watched a Samurai show.
That's that's what did two guys do when when WiFi
is out on the town with the ladies. It's art
basle here this week in Miami, which is very fancy.

(16:26):
So I everyone, this is always the funny thing that happens.
Everyone always asks me, who comes down to Miami around
this time of year, Oh, what are you doing for Basil?
And I have to tell them, Well, the people who
know me already know this, but the people who don't
know me that well, I have to tell them whatever
does not require me to leave my home, see people

(16:48):
or be in any traffic.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
The traffic here is total madness.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
It's like the un General Assembly, but with fancy artwork
like you and General Assembly in New York.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Where it's just gridlock everywhere.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
There's a lot of tra It's a great event for Myami,
and I'm glad everyon has fun and there's parties and
everything else. But you know, I'm I was having a
great time speed tonight. We're watching the Samurai stuff. It's great,
you know, it was really fun. So why was it
telling you? But oh yeah, the show task. I'll probably
check that out. It's tough to find a good show,
but I do.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
I do enjoy.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
I got started playing the occasional video game during COVID
because I was locked at home just you know, eating
gluten free mac and cheese.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
We have Clay right now.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
See look at the amazing tap dancing that I do
here while we're waiting for mister Clay Travis to call
us from the FIFA event.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Hey, buddy, everyone's waiting for you. How you doing.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
It's pretty spectacular, buck. I'm not gonna lie. I'm just
stepped out here in the grand foyer outside of the
theater where hopefully soon you know, they just had the
Prime Minister of Canada and the President of Mexico and
Trump on. I don't know if people are watching. They're
about to start the draw sooner or later. But this
thing is really well done, very well put on Roma

(18:04):
de Ravi, you know, who has been on the show
for as one of the board members here, but they
put on an absolute spectacular show so far. They took
over the Kennedy Center, FIFA did, and look a lot
of people are having this conversation, and I do think
it's cool. People say, Okay, well, why is the president involved?

(18:24):
What's going on here? I think Trump one hundred percent
sees this as a huge part of America's two hundred
and fiftieth anniversary celebration. He's going to have the UFC fight,
He's going to put on a show the likes of
which we haven't seen in a very long time. And
I think he wants the whole world to recognize what
pretty much everybody out there listening to us would agree with,

(18:45):
which is, this is the absolute best country that's ever
existed in the history of the world, and we should
put our best face forward for the two hundred and
fiftieth anniversary of the country. And so the birthday celebration
is going to include this incredible sporting festival that hasn't
been here in thirty years. So I think it's gonna

(19:06):
be awesome, and I've got my fingers crossed. I was
out with our friend Alexi Ollis last night for dinner.
Who you know we've had on the show quite a bit,
the lead soccer analyst for Fox Sports, and you know,
he's already run through the best possible draw for people
who don't know. The draw can dictate to a large
extent whether you advance to the knockout stage. And you know,

(19:27):
hopefully we'll get a good draw here in the next
twenty thirty minutes. I don't know that it's out there
very publicly, but two of the games are going to
be played in Los Angeles for the US men and
one of them is going to be played in Seattle.
So they already know where the location for the games
are going to be for the US team, but they
don't know who's going to actually be be playing. So

(19:49):
that's what we're waiting on right now for this event
to determine play.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
We are the best country, but unfortunate we're not the
best soccer team, that's for sure. How is the U
men's team. I'm sure you don't like you talked about this.
Are they actually gonna maybe get out of the first
knockout state?

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (20:08):
So he felt good about them. So they now have
expanded the knockout stage to thirty two teams from sixteen
and he felt good about them getting to the round
of thirty two. Again, we have to wait and see
exactly what the group play is going to be, but
he felt good about that. And look, we're around the
twelfth or thirteenth best team in the United States. Men

(20:30):
are and so yeah, I think that's about me for rankings.
Somebody in the studio can pull them up exactly. But
you know the problem is there's sometimes a big drop off.
The talk is it's Spain, it is fraying France, Spain,
France and England in addition obviously to Brazil and Argentina

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and that caliber of teams. So what we have is
not anywhere near the talent at the elite programs have
in the elite countries. So we have to rely on
some good fortune, good luck, the ball bouncing our proverbial way,
in order to make some noise. I think, and I
will say, there was hope, you know this, that this

(21:14):
was going to be kind of the golden generation, that
we were going to have a lot of good young
players that all came together, as sometimes occurs in countries.
And I just think the Christian pulistics of the world
that we're supposed to be the stars of this team
have not necessarily advanced like we would have hoped four
years ago in terms of becoming the best at what

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they do.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Now, how was it in there when Trump got his
Peace Award, the FIFA Peace Award?

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Or is there.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Grumbling about this from the journals? I mean, it's it's
a high five for Trump.

Speaker 6 (21:48):
Oh yeah, the journals are furious in the sports media,
and you know this, it's it's kind of very interesting
when you think about it. In America, soccer is kind
of a sport for the left wing, I would say,
sort of the elite people, whereas most of the rest
of the world, soccer is the game that all the

(22:11):
poor kids play. Right in America has kind of flipped.
Soccer tends to have a higher socioeconomic status, and so
soccer fans overwhelmingly skew democrat, right, you know, not necessarily
the Yay America fans, but just the hardcore soccer fans.
They're furious about it, but you know, I kind of

(22:32):
love it. But yes, that that element of the of
the American sports media is just throwing up their arms.
And it's I think kind of smart with Trump to
lean in on this, because you know, We were last
night out with some of the international soccer players at
a FIFA events, and several of them were kind of
rolling their eyes at the idea of the European guys

(22:55):
that Trump was going to get this Peace Prize today,
which again I just think is absolutely spectacular. It just
drove them crazy.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, I was gonna say, for nothing else, the trolling
value of Trump getting the award is fantastic. Something Clay
that that. I'm just curious about the atmospherics here the
streets of DC. You're obviously with a lot of DC residents,
there are a lot of people live there, the journals
and others, White House staff, you know, give Stephen Miller
a high five from from the Clay and Buck Show.

(23:25):
But is there talk about the streets really feeling. I know,
we just had a horrible instant with the National Guard,
but that was really a terrorist attack. Is their sense
that things are safer from a crime perspective?

Speaker 6 (23:38):
Yeah, I do think that's the case. I mean, I
was talking to some people last night and they said
they just don't feel like they have to look over
their shoulder as much when they're going around in d C. Now,
like many cities, parts of d C are comparatively safe.
You know, the northwest d C, which is where the

(23:58):
White House is, tends to be safe for then southeast
for instance, for people who know the area. So the
driving down of violent crime, though, has been pretty spectacular
across the board. You know, we're talking about sixty percent
declines to you know, frankly lows of crime that we
have not seen almost in the history of the city
of Washington. And you know it's going well because you

(24:20):
don't hear anything hardly at all about the protest going
on anymore. And I will say I didn't see them,
but there were evidently going to be protesters outside of
the Kennedy Center go figure protesting Trump getting the Peace Award.
And so when I was walking in, I walked through

(24:44):
a group of DC cops and they were all talking
about the fact I heard them getting a briefing. They
were saying, hey, guys, just be aware, we're expecting some
protesters to show up. You know, they've got the area fenced,
so you have to go through security because the presidents
are here.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
But I was kind of.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
Hoping that I would see you know, these but draggled,
you know, old people protesting the World Cup and Trump
getting the Peace Prize not too similar to what we
saw when we were up here a little bit less
than a year ago for the inauguration. So there definitely
is the sense that the city is safer, but there's
still that you know, tiny baseline of absolute morons that

(25:24):
will even show up to protest a FIFA event because
they think that the president is being honored too much
at the FIFA event.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
I also, you've got to get some reaction from the
journals that are settled there clay for me about how
this is a big week for Trump and peace because
not only did he get the FIFA Peace Prize, which
we let we played that live on air as he
was talking, you know, saying thank you and all that he's.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Renamed the Institute of Peace for himself.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
Yeah, no, Look, I mean I actually thought Trump's acceptance
speech was relatively humble, as Trump acceptance speech is go.
But he immediately put his gold Medal of Peace on,
which has got everybody losing their minds. And let's be honest,
I mean, he should have gotten the Nobel Peace Prize.
So the fact that FIFA has created their own Peace

(26:14):
Prize and that he is the inaugural recipient is somewhat funny,
but again I think speaks to the good relationship that
he has with the president of FIFA. And I give
the President of FIFA credit because again, there are lots
of European countries that are soccer watching this right now live.
You know, they say up to a billion people maybe

(26:36):
watching this this World Cup draw, which is crazy right
to think about around the world, because it's such a
big deal to see who you're gonna play and where
you're going to play. And so the President understands certainly
speaking to big audiences. But there are a lot of
diehard soccer fans that are furious that Trump got the
Peace Prize, which frankly, I love.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Me too well.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Clay, thank you for doing some on this. We've seen
sports correspondence for us here, very good stuff.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
No doubt.

Speaker 6 (27:03):
I'll send you a memo if we get a voice
memo you guys can.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yes, if we get a good draw, and.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
I'll break it down the likely success here. I might
even pass the phone to Alexi Wallace and let him
be the official expert analyst of the draw.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Fantastic here, Sure we're here, we're live, let us know
and We will certainly also talk to you on Monday.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
So if I don't talk to you before that, have
a great weekend.

Speaker 6 (27:27):
Man, all right, everybody else out there too, and fingers crossed,
we get a good draw here very shortly.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Oh, everyone's baited breath from all the SEC football fans
about the US soccer US soccer bracket.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
We'll see how this goes, Thank you, Clay.

Speaker 7 (27:43):
All right.

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Speaker 1 (28:54):
All right, welcome back in to Clay and Buck. We
are joined now by Senator Mark Wayne Mullin of Oklahoma.
Senator always good to talk to you. Thanks for making
the time for us.

Speaker 8 (29:05):
Oh, absolutely glad to be on your show again.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
So Clay is out today, he sends his regards. He
is hanging out with the President and others at the
Kennedy Center for FIFA. Before we get into serious things,
I'm gonna kind of reverse the order here, usually getting
the less serious things toward the end. But are you,
at least for today a soccer fan? Where do you
come down on this.

Speaker 8 (29:28):
I don't know the first thing about soccer at all.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Zero non, Okay, I like the honesty.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
I had a feeling I didn't want I'm not trying
to typecast you, but I had a feeling you might
go in that direction that you were going to tell
me that you're like a big Manchester City fan or something.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
So anyway, okay, just getting that.

Speaker 8 (29:45):
Name a player or a team. Uh and but you
just said Manchester, So there I can name you that
one but.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
One transition piece I could I could give you on
this though, Senator, is President Trump got in a war
the fief of Peace Award, which well, whether it's a
new award right, so it doesn't have quite the esteem
of say the Nobel Prize. But with a billion people
apparently watching this event at the Kennedy Center, the President,
i say, is getting this peace award from his international body.

(30:17):
I can tell you the journals very unhappy about it,
very unhappy.

Speaker 8 (30:21):
Well, I don't any journalists, it seems like for the
most part, not you guys, but most of these journalists
are so left wing they can't stand the president. But
think about this, saying how many countries he's brought peace
to Since he's been in office, there has been nine
wars he stopped, so that you could say eighteen countries
and almost everyone in these countries, you know, they appreciate

(30:42):
sports and soccer too.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
And you know, one thing we do do.

Speaker 8 (30:45):
One thing my office we work with is the US
a Athletic Department. So when you start talking about I
say Department US Athletics, be it from the world to
the Olympic side of things.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
We work with their getting pieces.

Speaker 8 (30:59):
We start with the wrestling community because obviously that's what
we do, uh, and that's what my family does, that's
what my kids do, That's what I did, is wrestle
and and so we worked so well with that that
we've helped with this process getting tough countries visus to
come in here to be able to compete. And we're
doing the same thing with the Olympic program too. So

(31:20):
we've that's that's that's my extent of helping with brings.
You know, I guess they say football, we cut say
soccer to to help with make sure it's a great
event here again.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Turning us to the international scene here and taking us
in a different direction toward UH national security, war and
peace these strikes. I've played some of the audio before
the strikes on the Narco boats coming from Venezuela toward
the United States, and they've been taken out. I think
we're getting close to now one hundred who will have
been who will have been killed in this process of

(31:54):
these strikes, maybe a dozen or so boats, something like
a few dozen boats.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
There was all this.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Allegation swirling in the media. Allegations were swirling the media
about this as a war crime. I've played Senator Cotton,
your colleague. He seems entirely satisfied the strikes were lawful
and legitimate.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
I wanted you to weigh in on this.

Speaker 8 (32:16):
Yes, absolutely, one hundred percent. Any Democrat that comes out
right now that saw this briefing, that saw the video,
that's had opportunity to read it, anyone that comes to
any other conclusion is flat lying to you, one hundred percent, completely.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Lying to you.

Speaker 8 (32:31):
Now, those that haven't got the briefing, and those that
haven't read their documents, and those that haven't saw the video,
they've chose to be ignorant on it because they the
White House has made it accessible to them, and so
there's no exhues for you talking on the point of ignorance,
because if you're going to be talking about the subject,
you should and you think it's you're passionate about it,
so you're going to complain about the administration for doing

(32:51):
something wrong, then at least be smart enough to go
get the facts, because anybody that watches it knows itout
a doubt. This was a good hit. These individuals wasn't
just floating in the water. They were actively trying and
this isn't classified information. They were actually trying to get

(33:12):
the boat back right side up, and they were also
communicating with another boat that was in the area that
we know was trying to come and pick them up.
And it is very very very clear when it goes
to where the requirements are for the Navy or the
coastcard to intercept and rescue stranded people and open water,

(33:32):
and when they are not to put a person, meaning
a service member in harm's way to do so when
they're considered an enemy force, which the terrorist organizations are terrorists.
We deemed them terrastds. We know that they carry arms
in these boats.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
We don't.

Speaker 8 (33:49):
That's not a maybe we know they do. We do
know that this was an active terrorist orgization that was
actively trying to bring poison drug us into our country.
And so without question, this was a good hit. And
I'm glad these individuals are on the bottom of the ocean.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
You are on the Armed Services Committee in the US Senate,
and just for all I know you know that, but
for all of our listeners, and so you're very much
getting brief. You're in the know on what's going on here,
the situation of Maduro and Venezuela. What can you tell
us about the trajectory here and what the Trump administration

(34:32):
is seeking as the endgame.

Speaker 8 (34:35):
We want Marduro to leave, and we gave him an opportunity,
even though we have a reward for him to be
taken out live or dead doesn't really make any difference
to us. We have told him he could leave peacefully
if he chose to go to a different country. His
country has made it very clear that they do not
want him there. This was used to be a democracy,

(34:56):
now that he has turned it into a dictator slash
communist country. Absolutely runt the country. He's destabilized the entire
region because Venezuela used to be this great democracy that
had a strong economy. He is he has now turned
it into his playground for terrorism and uh and drugs

(35:16):
instead of the great economy used to be. So the
President has made it very clear, we will allow you
to go to Russia. Well, I shall allow you to
go to the country you choose to go to, but
you can't stay where you're at. Now. That doesn't mean
that we're going to commit troops to the country. That's
not what we're that's not what we we've committed to do.
What we will do, though, is if we have labs

(35:39):
that are making them narcotics, that are killing our friends
and family and loved ones on our on our streets,
in our towns and in our states, that we will
strike those inside Venezuela if we have to. We're able
to do that because we've done this with terriiff organizations
all over the world. I mean, you think about you know,

(36:00):
for these Democrats are throwing a fit about the President
using this kinetic force. They never said a word when
Obama when he killed his thousands with drone strikes and
air strikes to same terrorist organizations that the United States
that deemed is a terrorists as terrorist organizations. So I

(36:20):
have zero issue with what's happening, and I think the
President's approach to Venezuela is spot on.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Senator Mark Waynemullen with us now of Oklahoma, something I
wanted you to weigh in on, and I know that
this is something you have a personal understanding of, which
is the position of American ranchers and the beef industry.
You know this has come up a bunch with Trump
and the tariff talks. Just can you tell us how's
it going for American ranchers right now? And is there

(36:50):
any policy fixed change or addition that should be made
because having a robust beef industry not just because I
love a good steak my favorite actual food, but how
is that, How is that part of our economy doing,
and how's the Trump administration working to bolster it?

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Well, it's tough.

Speaker 8 (37:11):
You know, we're a colcav operation. We have a lot
of a lot of a lot of a lot of
cattle and we see the prices drop sharply. There's been
a lot of dispute from those of us that sell
on the hoof. That means the cow or the steer
itself that we're selling, we call that on the hoof.
But there's a big difference between what we get market
price and what is selling out of the meat packers

(37:33):
by the box, beef by the box, huge difference in pricing.
What we don't understand is why the pricing has continued
to drop. The President had put out a couple of
statements in the market, in my opinion, overreacted on it.
And then the President said he was going to start
investigating the big four meat packers for price fixing, which

(37:53):
we feel like they are. And then immediately saw Tyson
come out and said they're closing their doors, which they did,
and so you got three major meat packers left. And
the interesting thing is all three of those are foreign
owned and they're controlling the market. It's not a free
market when you when you consolidated that much. And it's
very tough to be a rancher today. There is any

(38:14):
startup branches today that you can't do that. You either
own your land and you're running cattle on it. So
your landowner that has cattle on it, or you know
you're you're going broke because you can't have you can't
have both. Used to when I first start started, you
could run cattle and purchase land based on the land
and how many and how many heads you thought you

(38:35):
could run on it, that would make sense. Today, land
prices are so high, tractor prices are so high, your
input costs from your fertilizer to your seed, uh, to grain,
and to labor costs. It doesn't make any sense if
you're trying to make a land payment on top of
that with cattle alone. So it's a very very tough
industry and it's one of the few, it's the only

(38:56):
it's the only protein industry that has it consolidated into
corporate farms. You see it, you know chicken as chicken
and pork obviously consolidated into corporate arms. Beef is We
have been able to prevent that from happening, but if
we don't take a hard, complete look at this, you
could see where that might turn into it because it's

(39:17):
very difficult hoof prices right now or not hoop prices
that are heard or is down to the level of
nineteen fifty three and only getting worse because right now
people are going to are having to sell off. They
were trying to sell off because of prices, but they
got some loans on some of this stuff. They've got
to sell at low prices, so they're trying to have
to sell morehead than what they've even anticipated to do.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Senator, can I ask you just in the realm of
what might be helpful or I want you know way
more about this industry than I do.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
I'm totally a student here. I have no expertise at.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
All other than as I said, I want to robust,
robust meat industry, domestic meat industry here in America for
a whole bunch of reasons.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
To that end, is there an adjustment that should be
made to tree of origin labeling so that people know,
you know, my beef or my chicken whatever is from
here in America in the hard land.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
You could do that.

Speaker 8 (40:10):
Studies to show that it probably wouldn't make that big
of a difference for those that need to because they're
still going to buy by the price they are going
to be. They're just they're going to purchase things that
they can afford. What we really probably need to start
looking at is there's cop there's crop prices, so there's
always a backstop for the for for the farmers. We
might have to be looking at some point that there's

(40:30):
a backstop for ranchers too, kind of like there's crop insurance,
we maybe have to look at something of beef insurance.
There used to be that out there, but it's just
not affordable today. And so we've had a lot of
conversations with the farmers and our ranchers combined. But beef
is just so so so unique, and so we've Congress

(40:52):
is really good at working off emergencies and waiting until
the last minute, and sometimes it's too late. I think
these conversations that we're having is but we're nowhere near
trying to figure out how to happen and how to
make it work. Because at the same time, there's a
lot of ranchers out there and say, hey, just the
best thing government can do is just get out of
our way, just let the market work. Just don't don't

(41:13):
touch us. And there's a lot to be said about that.
But then there's the other ones that's saying, we can't
afford to go unless there's somebody back in US and banks.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
And I think just think for a senator, for people
like me that don't know much. I mean, the American
beef industry, just a quick search on it. It's one
hundred billion dollar industry. It's a big deal, right, it
matters a big industry, matters to our economy, matters the country.
So well, we'll continue to look at that and obviously
if at any point there's something you want to bring

(41:42):
to our attention on that one, there's something I think
that really hits home with people what goes on their plate,
whether it's chicken, beef, pork, whatever it may be.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
We want to make sure.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
We get the best, we get the best pricing, and
that we have it here from America whenever possible. Senator,
appreciate you making the time for us today. You have
a great weekend.

Speaker 8 (41:59):
Thanks Buck, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2 (43:16):
Third hour of Play and Buck kicks off right now.
Thanks for being here, everybody. We have Isabelle Brown with us.
She is the host of The isabel Brown Show on
all social platforms or Daily Liar plus. Isabelle, I think
first time we've had you on radio, but you and
I go way back from the first TV and the
digital days.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
How you doing doing?

Speaker 9 (43:36):
Fantastic? So excited to be here.

Speaker 7 (43:37):
I actually think I have been on once, if memory serves,
a year and a half plus ago, right before the
release of my book, and it's crazy how much life
has changed since then.

Speaker 9 (43:46):
So it's great to be back.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Fantastic to have you back. Your memory is better than mine,
which is not surprising because I'm about to be forty
four years old, so I am getting more forgetful. So
welcome back. It's been eighteen months. We should had you
back sooner, but here we are. I hope the book
was Hope the book was fantastic, by the way, So
just take us into the scene a little bit here.
I ten years ago, I used to do CNN. It's

(44:10):
been a long time now, basically been about ten years
since I've I've done CNN.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
You were on CNN last night.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
We'll play Oh, we have the cut for everybody, so
you're what is the show?

Speaker 1 (44:20):
You can tell everybody what this one is? This is?

Speaker 7 (44:22):
This was Abby Phillips panel show that runs during the
ten PM hour, and boy it was pretty spicy last night.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
I'll tell you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Yeah, So let's let's let everyone hear just a little,
a little taste, a little snippet here.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
This is cut twenty seven play.

Speaker 10 (44:35):
You can speculate all you want, but the authorities who
are charging this guy haven't laid out a motive. That's
all upset. The other thing is that, no, I'm not
suggesting that he was tied to stop the steal, but
I'm not.

Speaker 7 (44:47):
Sure your question a summer night after janis so it suited.
It's all the hypothetic individual So it's called the hypothetical.

Speaker 10 (44:55):
Had he been prosecuted alongside all of those other people
who were involved in violent acts on Jenny very six,
would Donald Trump have pardoned him? No?

Speaker 7 (45:03):
Because individuals who were why not the Capitol Building on
January sixth? We're not planting pipe bomb? What about the one?

Speaker 10 (45:09):
But what about what about the ones that the American
fas bring to me that now we have no idea
what the moment? It's about this? What about ms?

Speaker 6 (45:20):
It is about?

Speaker 7 (45:20):
What about the time hours of what about the people
who as the American this was intended to boonement additional
what to detract relaforcements.

Speaker 10 (45:30):
About they don't want to you don't want to grapple
of what happened. Question, let me ask you, Let me
ask you a question. Let me ask you a question.
What about the people who assaulted and beat police officers
on January? Regularly said, so do you think do you
think that that they are just trespassing, that they were

(45:53):
wrongfully prosecuted?

Speaker 7 (45:54):
Well, one, we didn't beat police in January sixth.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Okay, so there's I know, everyone's like, whoa, what's going on.
It's like they're in the middle of the scrum, the
melee that's going on. Can I give it to you
to just make make your initial point because it seems
like the host there slash whoever else is kind of
you know, chiming in doesn't understand that walking into the
Capitol and taking a selfie and planning a pipe bomb

(46:22):
are different things.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Help work through that for.

Speaker 7 (46:25):
Us, Well, you know, it's obvious that everything is violence
except actual violence. To the left right words are violence,
ideas or violence. The American flag is violence, but planting
pipe bombs actually isn't violent. I guess according to CNN
that was just one of many different topics we covered
on this very fiery panel last night, I of course

(46:45):
being the metaphorical punching bag where every question I was
asked two words in the host just immediately spoke over
me and completely ignored everything that I was saying. For example,
I answered that question I think there was one snippet
there about if violent protesters deserve to be part in
or not.

Speaker 9 (47:00):
I said, of course not.

Speaker 7 (47:01):
If anyone is beating a police officer, of course they
need to be in prison for such behavior. And then
she just completely ignored that six or seven times. But
what was really interesting to me is this panel was
so obsessed with running interference for anyone that they remotely
associated with being on the left. And when it came
to this particular conversation about the arrest that was made

(47:21):
against Brian Cole Junior, the alleged pipe bomber from January
fifth is when he planted those bombs twenty twenty one,
but they were discovered on January sixth, in the midst
of all the chaos. They literally had the audacity to say, well,
let's just.

Speaker 9 (47:34):
State the obvious.

Speaker 7 (47:36):
This guy's black, so he'll never get a presidential pardon
for planting pipe bombs. The obsession that these people have,
particularly the left wing establishment media, with excusing any sort
of political violence as long as it fits their agenda,
if that's something as ridiculous as planting a pipe bomb
or a school shooting against Catholic school children because they're

(47:58):
Catholic and therefore are somehow dreamists for our country, or
even all out assassinations of people like our friend Charlie Kirk.
It's becoming so obvious to me in the last three months,
more than ever before in my career, that the demons
are getting louder and evil is being exposed with every
passing day. The literal darkness I felt in the CNN

(48:18):
studio yesterday was very palpable.

Speaker 9 (48:20):
I said that to my team as I walked out.

Speaker 7 (48:22):
And I'm realizing, after these last few months, I don't
know that I'll ever be the same again, realizing how
strong that evil has taken hold in our country.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
So we just went into kind of an intense and
serious direction there. But it is a Friday, and I'm
actually now is well, you can't I don't think you
can see this, but I am now holding the famous
fellow known as Baby Speed.

Speaker 9 (48:42):
Oh I can't see I wish I could.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
He he's anyone who's watching on the YouTube can see it.
And he's now speaking up a little bit. Oh there
he is. I was grabbing a microphone. He's a lot
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and I have a child about the same age. WHOA Okay,
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We have a child about the same age. That was
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(49:08):
What's the whole parent thing been like for you?

Speaker 1 (49:11):
And whoa? Therey is sorry?

Speaker 7 (49:14):
I love that baby Speed wants to have his own
podcast because my daughter Aila constantly is talking all the time.
I keep saying, there's a lot of money to be
out in a baby podcast somewhere, so maybe we should
start one.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
I love it.

Speaker 7 (49:27):
I had my daughter at the end of April. Birthday
was April thirtieth, and truly, as I'm sure you know,
as a new parent, my whole life has changed in
all of the best ways. Since then, I am a
completely different person. I view the world completely differently, but
in the most beautiful, holistic way. I think there's such
a greater purpose to what I do every day. It
gives me a reason to jump out of bed in
the morning, to know exactly what I'm fighting for and

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I've never experienced this depth of love ever before in
my life.

Speaker 9 (49:52):
It is truly.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Magical, it is, it is incredible.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
I honestly I love being a parent every single day
and even the days when the sleep is not great.
And maybe Speed is a pretty amazing baby, but he
can be you know, he's a baby. He can get
a little fussy sometimes at night. I will say, my
wife is incredible and she handles like ninety percent of
the really challenging stuff, but I pitch in sometimes. I
try to be a very involved dad. But I do

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think and I want to you're Are you gen Z
or you like you know you're gen Z.

Speaker 9 (50:21):
I'm very very proudly the first year of gen Z.

Speaker 7 (50:24):
I will wear that as a badge of honor till
the day time.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
You are gen Z.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
I think that there is just for my observation, that
people are now in the culture here in America thinking
about family and building families in a more just generally
in a very positive way. But also I'm talking about
the youth, you know, the young people now and at
a younger age, like I feel like there has been

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a shift toward family toward thinking at least about family.
The numbers, I know don't bear this out. The numbers
are that we're going down, but I feel like the
conversation has changed.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
That is that wishful thinking on my part? How do you?

Speaker 7 (51:02):
I think that's a very beautiful and accurate diagnosis of
where young people's culture is at in this country. You're right,
the numbers are very, very sad when it comes to
the state of America's fertility rate that includes just the
choice to have children. We are at a one hundred
year low fertility rate in our country, which is coupled
with one of the lowest marriage rates we've ever had

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in our country's history. That is the legacy and story,
sadly of the millennial generation who was constantly bombarded with
anti marriage and anti family messaging. That messaging has gotten
so overtly loud and honestly crazy, like people are actually
running headlines like the Los Angeles Times last year just
before the election, it is almost shameful to want to

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have children, real headline that I think people are starting
to see between the lines and read between all of
this craziness to realize there is a very clear agenda
to make you lonely, depressed and miserable. I mean, for
God's sakes, the last Surgeon General of the United States,
our top ranking doctor under the Biden admin, actually issued
a public health warning that parenting is dangerous to your health.

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This was real, on the record from the federal government.
Because it seems making more people somehow makes you more lonely, which.

Speaker 9 (52:17):
Makes no sense, right.

Speaker 7 (52:19):
But young people are also having this massive revival of faith,
and I think so much of that has to do
with voices like Charlie Kirk, like the Clay and Buck
show here, and so many other people that are tapping
into this spiritual crisis young people have had for several generations,
now realizing we have to fight for what is good
and true and beautiful in culture way more than we

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ever fight for politics, and that the cornerstone of that
is reviving the American family. All of my friends are engaged, married,
or having babies. My best friend shout out to Savannah
had her baby last night. First baby. It's just so
exciting to see that revival of family all across our country,
led by gen Z.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
I also think this is maybe a little bit of
an aside, but it's it's related. You know, they've walked
back and Bill Gates and others have walked back some
of the climate change dumerism stuff that's out there, and
I feel like they owe an apology to be They
managed to convince some people this was a real thing.

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It's hard to think that it could be, but it
was real that climate extinction or climate change extinction was
so severe, meaning that if people didn't stop stop having kids,
we would go extinct because we would overstress the resources
of the planet. It's a crazy idea, but they convince

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people of that, Isabelle, And now they're like, yeah, maybe
we missed the mark on that a little bit.

Speaker 7 (53:43):
Yeah, in case you didn't hear this, because lord knows,
the media didn't cover it. Just a few days ago,
Bill Gates came forward and said, yeah, oops, actually there
is no climate crisis anymore. We fixed it. Sorry to
have alarm you that we're all going to die in
literally twelve years. I mean, the propaganda is just insanity,
But I have to say, I'm just so encouraged to
see ordinary people, regardless of where you fall in the

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political spectrum or what your personal deepest held values are,
realizing that life is meant to.

Speaker 9 (54:10):
Be shared with the people that we love.

Speaker 7 (54:11):
Just a few days ago, the Wall Street Journal came
to our house and covered my family on the cover
of the Wall Street Journal about the revival of the
American family and young women really tapping into this idea
that we can have thriving careers and entrepreneurship and some
of the girl boss culture without the toxic corporate element
to that. But more importantly, that means nothing if we

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don't have our children to share it with in a
legacy to build upon which had resoundingly positive effects and
lots of great response from people. So I'm incredibly excited
about this family revival. My daughter means so much more
to me than any paycheck ever will. And the response
I'm getting even from young women on the very radical
left about this, that they're quitting their birth control, they're

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deleting their dating apps, they are desperate to find a
god fearing husband and wanting to build a family out
of the big city and restoring American roots of what
the American dream has always looked like.

Speaker 9 (55:03):
I love to see it.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Can you, Jo, Can you just have a little conversation
though with some of your female millennial peers, these oversized
like like dad jeans, they're not even dad jeans. They're
they're I don't know what they are, these giant jeans
that these women are walking around.

Speaker 7 (55:20):
Am I wearing baggy jeans from the nineties right now?

Speaker 9 (55:23):
Yes? Yes, I am. You know what I'm all about it.
The mom jean has made a return. And my postpart
of mom body is grateful for Ali.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Is she wearing mom? Am I telling her to shut
down the mom jeans? And she's wearing them right now
in the studio.

Speaker 9 (55:37):
Oh, they're not like, but they are pretty jeans that.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
I see these young women wearing. I'm like, you might
as well be wearing a burka. I'm just saying this
is crazy talk, but apparently some of you think they're comfortable.
I'm not a fashion guys. I sit here in a
T shirt, but I know.

Speaker 7 (55:54):
It's funny you say burka. I actually saw several burkas
in the wild in Washington, d C.

Speaker 9 (55:59):
A few days ago.

Speaker 7 (56:00):
So sadly here in New York where I am too,
I think that will probably be one of the next
fashion statements if we don't bring back a classic cut
bootcut gene.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Yeah, I'm all about the classic American gene, all right.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Isabel Brown, Isabel Brown Show. Go check it out.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Everybody, and Isabel, thank you for being here with us.
Great to talk to you, Thanks for coming to hang
with the team in New York.

Speaker 9 (56:20):
Thanks for having me back. Merry Christmas, everybody.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Merry Christmas.

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