December 9, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show kicks off with a deep dive into one of the most consequential legal debates in decades: the Supreme Court’s oral arguments on presidential authority. Clay and Buck break down the case that could redefine the separation of powers by determining whether presidents can fire executive branch officials who lead independent regulatory agencies. They argue that this decision isn’t just about Donald Trump—it will impact every future president, from Obama to potential leaders like Gavin Newsom or JD Vance. The hosts criticize Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson’s comments during oral arguments, questioning her understanding of constitutional principles and highlighting what they see as her overtly political approach. Clay even raises the provocative argument that Biden’s pledge to appoint a Black woman to the Court may have violated federal law, sparking a broader discussion on merit, diversity, and judicial competence.
The hour then pivots to cultural commentary, featuring clips from The View and a spirited debate about Donald Trump’s legacy. Clay and Buck dismantle claims that Trump will be a mere “footnote,” asserting that he is the most influential political figure of the 21st century and second only to Ronald Reagan in the past 45 years. They compare Trump’s impact to other modern presidents, including Obama, Clinton, and George W. Bush, and explore how Trump reshaped American politics and global dynamics. This segment underscores the enduring influence of Trump’s policies and persona, regardless of media narratives.
Political news takes center stage as the hosts analyze Jasmine Crockett’s announcement that she will run for the U.S. Senate in Texas. Clay and Buck predict her campaign is less about winning and more about elevating her national profile for lucrative media opportunities or a future presidential bid in 2028. They discuss Crockett’s strategy, her appeal to identity politics, and the challenges Democrats face in Texas. The conversation also touches on the fallout from Colin Allred’s withdrawal, the role of redistricting in shaping congressional power, and the broader implications for the 2026 midterms. In a humorous twist, the hosts dissect Crockett’s lavish spending habits and speculate about her ambitions to join shows like The View or networks such as CNN or MSNBC.
Hour 1 closes with analysis of a major Supreme Court decision upholding Texas’s redistricting map, which could add multiple Republican seats and influence control of Congress. Clay and Buck preview upcoming cases on majority-minority districts and their constitutionality, emphasizing how these rulings will shape the political landscape for years to come.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis
end Buck Sexton Show. Getting deep into December already. I
can't believe it much to discuss. In fact, without even
planning this, Clay, I'm sitting here in a Crockett T
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(00:21):
We've got cold bean ground, bean cake cup mushroom Blend.
It's amazing, plus great gear. I bring it up though,
because there is a different Crockett in the news. We
will be discussing that momentarily, Jasmine Crocket. Now we do
have to take into account, Clay, the possibility that worsh
you to say, run for president, You and I would
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often be seen in public wearing Crockett gear, and this
could be confusing. So we're gonna have to address this
somehow looks like we're out there canvassing for votes for
missus Jasmine Crockett of the House of Representatives, when in
fact we're just trying to sell you the best coffee
that you'll ever have. So we'll talk about Jasmine crockettnouncing
her Senate run coming off. We've also got more on
(01:03):
the Minnesota and Somali American fraud situation playing out. We
have a Trump interview with Dasha Burns of Politico addressing
a whole range of issues. We'll bring you the highlights
of that. Trump was at a ECON roundtable yesterday, got
to talk affordability. In fact, Uncle Bill also known as
(01:26):
Bill O'Reilly, bestselling author, TV host, etc. He will be
with us at one eastern here next hour on the program.
We'll ask him a lot of things, but certainly about
the affordability question, because I think that is what will
determine most likely determine the mid terms the outcome, more
than any other single issue. But I actually wanted to
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start with this one, if I may, mister Clay. Yesterday
we had mentioned this, but there were oral arguments in
front of the Supreme Court yesterday, and those oral arguments
included a case that goes right to presidential power, presidential authority,
whether essentially the president can fire people who work for
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the executive branch, or is there truly a forever state,
a deep state, whatever you want to call it. There
are people who are the bureaucracy that are effectively a
fourth branch of government because they cannot be fired by
the executive branch. They are not employees of the legislative branch.
They're certainly not part of the judicial branch. So what
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the heck is going on here? It is a very
interesting question, I think, Clay. The outcome should be quite clear.
And yet here is Catanji Brown Jackson, who I think
you'd have to say is the most left wing member
of the Court. She also, and this is I mean this,
she talks the most by far of anybody on the Court,
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and that's just a question of timing. On the transcript,
she talks the most by far, and unfortunately sometimes shows
that she doesn't really understand the very basics of our government,
which for Supreme Court justice I think is a problem.
Here she is yesterday Clay on the issue of presidential authority,
and can you fire these forever bureaucrats play cut six.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Some issues, some matters, some areas should be handled in
this way by nonpartisan experts. That Congress is saying that
expertise matters with respect to aspects of the economy and
transportation and the various independent agencies that we have. So
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having a president come in and fire all the scientists
and the doctors, and the economists and the PhDs, and
replacing them with loyalists and people who don't know anything
is actually not in the best interest of the citizens
of the United States. These issues should not be in
presidential control.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Whose control should they be? And then Clay, that's the
question that seems obvious, among others, that Katangi Brown Jackson
I do not think has a particularly erudite answer to.
I have never said this before. I would be a
better Supreme Court justice than Katanji Brown Jackson, and I
would not be a great Supreme Court justice. I don't
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think she has the intellectual theft to do this job,
and the questions that she asks confirm that on a
regular basis. Look, what she's trying to grapple with inarticulately
is the concept of where do the powers of the
presidency extend and how to they implicate the powers of Congress.
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So essentially what we've got here, and it is I
think it actually intriguing. An important position is how do
you end up making choices on Let me take a
step back and explain, because I think this has gotten
confusing to a lot of people, and I don't think
it's overwhelmingly confusing, So let me just kind of lay
out the issue here. About one hundred years ago, Congress
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started to create these independent regulatory agencies inside of government
that were basically neither executive nor congressional in nature. They
were kind of a hybrid, and effectively, the question is
and most of the time the terms on these agencies rotate,
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and they're supposed to be mixed Democrat, Republican and all
of these things. And the question really at essence here
is where does that fall within separation of powers? Because
if you decide that these people are doing a bad job,
the president is saying, I should have the authority to
fire them because they are acting in an executive capacity.
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Katanji Brown Jackson is trying to argue that they are
independent of the entire political process, but derive their power
from congressional authorization and therefore should be able to serve
in their office without the need to be at the
behest of anyone. Right, And I think for most of
us out there, we say, wait a minute. In a government,
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people should be actionable, and if you're acting in some
form in an executive capacity, the president should have the
ability to decide whether or not someone is on one
of these agencies. And Kataji Brown Jackson is trying to say, well,
we need experts from outside the world of politics. Let's
actually anti democratic, right, because the entire process of our
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country is predicated on there should be people who are
able to be removed if the will of the people
is violated on some level. And that's really what all
this is about. And look, it's getting tied up in Trump,
but I actually think that's a poor way of the
media conveying it because Trump's only going to be president
for three more years, and largely the question is what
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are the powers of the executive as it pertains to
these agencies. And I happen to think the executive should
have the power or to remove. But Katanji Brown Jackson,
let's go back to her for a minute, buck, because
I actually think there's an argument that her selection for
the Supreme Court quite clearly violated federal law because Biden
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said I'm only going to pick a black woman. You
could not do that in almost any job in America
without violating the law, because you shouldn't ever say the
only person who can get publicly, the only person who
can get this job is a black woman. In doing so,
Buck Biden eliminated ninety seven percent of all individuals from
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being able to be considered. I think three percent of
the overall court is made up of the overall legal
apparatus made up a black woman. I don't think that
he could appoint her. I think there is an argument
that her appointment was illegal under federal law because it
clearly violates principles that the Supreme Court has our ticulated
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when it comes to how to consider race and sex
in terms of jobs. I also think she's not going
to win you over with more of her oral arguments,
which we're about to play here, Clay. In terms of
her ability to under I don't mean I may disagree,
and I do disagree with Kagan, for example, on a
lot of things. I do think she understands what's going on,
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meaning I think she understands competing is forseally a brilliant lawyer. Yeah,
she's and the constitutional framework that we are discussing. So
while I can disagree, she understands what does my side say?
What does your side say? I don't think a Tanji
Brown Jackson really understands what the sides are in this.
She just knows what she wants. She's a Poloiticisian. She's
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effectively a legislator wearing judicial robes. And here she is
more of the k J. I'm sorry, k b J
Rant play seven.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Can you speak to me about the danger of allowing
in these various areas the president to actually control the
Transportation Board and potentially the Federal Reserve and all these
other independent agencies in these particular areas, we would like
to have independence. We don't want the president controlling I
guess what I don't understand from your overarching argument is
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why that determination of Congress, which makes perfect sense given
its duty to protect the people of the United States,
why that is subjugated to a concern about the president
not being able to control everything. I mean, I appreciate
there's a conflict between the two, but one would think
under our constitutional design, given the history of the monarchy
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and the concerns that the Framers had about a president
controlling everything, that in the clash between those two congresses,
view that we should be able to have independence with
respect to certain issues should take precedence.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I don't what does she even say. She sounds to
me like she thinks that there is a special imputed
power from Congress to have elements of government outside the
executive branch, outside the legislative branch, where people are unfirable
because of their so called expertise. I mean, this case
comes from trying to fire someone on the Federal Trade Commission, Right,
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it's the case is Trump Vslaughter, and it's about firing
an FTC director. I think we could find somebody else
to do the FTC job, thank you very much. I
think really what this goes to, Clay, is that Democrats
cling to this, if you will, Fauciite power, going back
(10:39):
to doctor Fauci of people who can have vast power
within the bureaucracy but are answer will answering to no one,
because bureaucrats tend to be Democrats. Also, it's Congress not
doing its job, because I mean, this is very basic
and I get it that when you go to separation
of powers, where we really run into where the rubber
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meets the road is where do you define the separation
of the power? Right, this is Marbarry v. Madison back
in the day with Hey. The Supreme Court has the
ability to review any actions of the executive or the
or the obviously a congressional power and try to make
a determination there. But again, I don't have any problem
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with Katanji Brown Jackson's perspectives, but she she everything that
she does, it appears that she thinks she's a senator
or a governor or even a presidential candidate. She wants
to do politics, that's fine, but the job of a
justice sitting on the Supreme Court is not to articulate
political arguments, and that's all she seems capable of doing. Well,
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I don't think she knows the difference, which is a
huge problem. Well that I think she's showing an issue
deeply mired in her perspective, point of view and political ideology,
that she does not know the difference between the role
of a judge and the role of a legislator. That's
what came across to me in this argument, that she
has no idea that she couldn't make a distinction really,
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because she's saying things like, Okay, well, who determines that
these people are experts? Someone hired them somewhere along the line,
so who gets to fire them? I mean, if you
start to work backward from her premise, so once you
work for the FTC, you get to stay there forever.
Explain this to me. We can't find somebody better. I
think what you're seeing also internally in the Supreme Court
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is there's a growing disrespect of Katanji Brown Jackson's seat
on the Supreme Court. I think you saw it when
Amy Coney Barrett slapped her down in kind of unprecedented terms.
But there was a big article I read in the
New York Times recently where even Elena Kagan and Justice
Soto Mayor are not that happy with Katanji Brown Jackson.
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And so I think this is a curse that she
makes their side look silly. Is really what's going on.
This is the lasting curse of the Biden era that
is going to unfortunately stay in the Supreme Court for
the next thirty forty years, maybe long after I'm gone.
Katanji Brown Jackson is I think around fifty years old.
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She's probably got thirty years left on the Supreme Court,
and I think she's going to be a real liability
as a justice going forward. And again, I don't know
that I've ever pointed this out with anybody. I don't
think I'm not trying to brag and say, hey, as
a lawyer, I'd be some great Supreme Court justice. I
don't think i'd be very good at it. I would
be better than Katanji Brown Jackson as a Supreme Court
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justice play I didn't go to law school, and I
think i'd be better than Katanji Brown Jackson, and I
actually probably there's probably a lot of people out there
that would be better. But again, I think there's an argument.
I've never heard anybody make it, but I think there's
an argument that her appointment is illegal under federal law
and should not stand because of Biden specifically saying I'm
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only going to put a black woman on and by
the way, she's a I think a poor choice within
the black female community. I think Biden not surprisingly made
a poor choice, except to your point, he probably knew
what he was doing, which is just basically putting a
left wing politician on the court to make left wing arguments.
And I think that's why you're seeing Sotomayor and Kagan
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back away from KBJ, and why you're actually seeing any
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Speaker 1 (16:08):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. I can't
stop thinking about the Katanji Brown Jackson situation. This is
one of those elements, Buck, where when the oral arguments
are released and you hear some of the judges. I
think the most embarrassing oral argument questions I've ever heard
were actually sut a mayor during the vaccine debate. Vaccine
(16:33):
as in quotation marks around COVID where it was clear
sut of Mayor wasn't doing the basic homework. But I
think this is important and worth reiterating. Every justice is
able to hire four of the brightest, most brilliant legal
minds in America to basically do the job for them.
I mean, and I don't know that people spend a
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lot of time thinking about this job. But you go
out and you hire the most sterling, being brilliant twenty
five year olds in America, and you have them writing
your opinions and researching all the issues, so they are
handing you All you have to do is just read
the work that they have done to come up with
the arguments that you want to make. And it seems
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to me that Katanji Brown Jackson is either hiring morons,
which is possible, or not even doing the bare minimum
of work to read the arguments that they are handing
to her before she goes out and speaks publicly. It
actually reminds me of the girls on the View who
have huge staffs and just won't spend the basic amount
of work to do research to be able to talk.
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Speaker 1 (19:12):
Wait do we not? I just oh, yeah, here we go.
This is what I was talking about here wood Be
Goldberg on this is cut eleven. If you're wondering, what
is the what is sort of the level of Democrat
opposition to this trumpet administration these days? What are the
more eloquent arguments that are being made. I can't help you.
(19:35):
I just know that they hate him and they say
he's not a king, as if we needed to be
reminded of that. This is cut eleven. Listen to this
his personal stuff. I care less.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
I want to know what are you doing for us? Now?
You say you you said you're going to be the
president for everybody, But you haven't been a president for anybody.
You've been a president just for you. Well, the crypto
guys that people in pressed, even the people he's partying,
he's not connected to that. He said he was our president.
(20:08):
He's not our president. He's a guy who likes to
get but kissed.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
That's what he is.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
I need to be the president or your legacy, your legacy,
what's left of it, is going to disappear and you
will just be a footnote like gas in the desert.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I don't think so. I think I think it's the
dominant political figure of the last decade and that's not changing.
But okay, I just can't imagine being arrogant enough to
go on a show and say that a two twice
elected president of the United States is not going to
have any legacy at all. Like you could. You could say, hey,
(20:50):
I think Trump is doing an awful job. I disagree,
but you can make that argument. He is the most
consequential political figure of the world, I would argue in
the twenty first century so far. Now there's still seventy
five years left, so maybe somebody else is going to
come along and bump him off the top of the list.
(21:10):
But since he came down that escalator in twenty fifteen,
Trump is the most significant political figure in the twenty
first century. I don't even think you can argue that.
And also Buck, I would argue, and I think it
starts to get really kind of fascinating. The depends on
(21:31):
how far back you want to go, But let's say
we started nineteen eighty and we make it roughly two generations, right.
Other than Reagan, I think Trump is the most significant
political figure in the last forty years. And the reason
why I say Reagan is the most significant in the
last it's forty five years, I guess technically is because
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of the Cold War and the opening of Eastern Europe
and all of those things that Reagan brought about. But
I would put Trump too. Would you sign on to that?
As Reagan won Trump two in the last forty five years.
I think we agree in the twenty first century, Trump
is the most consequential. But I think you can go
back two generations now and say, going back to nineteen eighty,
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the only person even in the conversation with Trump is Reagan.
I would put Reagan one in Trump two, and to
a large extent, that's because the reordering of the global uh,
you know, the collapse of communism, all those things. I
think that defeating the evil Empire of the opinion was
a big win. That's a big w Yeah. I don't
think there's any doubt if you're talking about Republican politicians.
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I think if you're talking unfortunately, I think Obama has
to be the conversation if you're asked about lasting impact.
But I think so much of the Obama impact was
deeply negative for the country, but he was consequential. We're
still dealing with the consequences. But yes, for Republicans, Trump
and Reagan are clearly the the I don't even think
(22:57):
you can just I mean, I think that's including because
I would go Reagan one, I would go Trump to,
I would go Clinton three, I'd go Obama four. I
think it's hard to argue when you get two terms
and then w Bush probably five in the last forty
years in terms of the most impactful. Now you can
argue that they were impactful and a negative way. Obama
(23:19):
had way more impact than Bill Clinton. Wait, really, way more? Yeah,
I think that. I think that Bill Clinton. Well, I'm
saying positive impact. I'm just looking at like who left
their imprint on things, But you're just saying, like, did
some good things. Yeah, sure, who had the most positive
impact in the country. If you go two term presidents
in the last forty years, forty five years, I think
(23:41):
you go Reagan one, Trump two. Now that your argument
of who also considering negative impact gets more challenging. I'm
trying to only look on the bright side of things. Well,
this is like who was the I think it was
I think it was Maybe it was Bill Maher, I
can't remember now, but who said that? Like Time magazine
did their hundred most Influential People of the twentieth century,
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and Princess Diana was ahead of Stalin. He's like, he's
like influential. I think that Salin really really funny, more influent. Like,
remember it's not who we like her, who's good influential?
Stalin pretty influential, Uh, you know, committed, you know, but
unfortunately condemned millions and millions of people to die. And
but but I mean definitely had a big influence. So yes,
(24:24):
I think Obama was also very influential, unfortunately in very
bad ways for this country. There may come a time, Clay,
when we have to sit here, perhaps some years ahead,
and discuss the tremendous political influence of the Crockett presidency,
as in Jasmin Crockett. Now, she has not announced for
president to run for president yet, but she has announced
(24:46):
as of yesterday a Senate run and this, my friends,
is cut one. Let's hear her say it.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
I'm asking you to tune out those intrusive voices say
she can't win.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Because she's black, because she's a woman, or because.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
She's a democrat.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
If you believe women should be in all spasis, then
I ask you to stand with me.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
She is going to do nothing but elevate her brand,
raise her profile. I understand. Is she gonna win a
Senate race in Texas? No, she is not. Now, you
can't go to sleep on this one, Texans. A lot
of you listening here, you can't go to sleep on
this one because they're hoping that complacency becomes their greatest
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asset in a place like Texas where we have a
clear advantage. But she's gonna get a lot of media attention.
She's gonna lose this Senate race, and then she's gonna
run for president. Lay Now, I don't think she's gonna
win that either, But you're gonna be seeing a lot
more Jasmine Crockett in the years ahead.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I don't think there's any doubt that this is an
angle to get I think what she's gonna do is
First of all, we should play this audio because this
kind of tells you everything about what is she going
to try to do? Will she convert Trump voters to
vote for her? That's the only way she can win.
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There is no mathematical equation in the state of Texas
that allows a Texas Democrat to win without getting a
ton of people who voted for President Trump to also
vote for you. That is the math, very basic. She
answers that question of what she's trying to do here
Buck with her answer to cut three.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
Listen, how you make voters who previously voted for Trump,
particularly given that you have been an outspoken critic and
he has inserted himself Just take your campaign video as is.
He has inserted himself at every turn when it comes
to your commentary. How will you convert those who are
supportive of him to voters for you? Yeah, I don't
(26:49):
know that will necessarily convert all of Trump' supporters.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
That's not our you need to. Our goal is to
definitely talk to people. No, we don't. We don't need to.
That's the that's the game. I think she's running for
a good media job that she thinks will pay her
more At CNN or MSNBC. Her profile will increase, and
then I think she'll run for president in twenty twenty eight.
(27:13):
And again, to your point, not very many people lose
from running for president her profile increases. I think there's
a quiet panic in the Democrat Party over the fact
that she's running. Already. One Colin Allred has dropped out.
He was the nominee who ran against Ted Kruz, moderate
ish guy, former NFL player, and now it's Crockett versus
(27:36):
tall Rico. I hope she wins. I hope she wins
on March third, which is going to be here faster
than we know it. The guy that got that got
roughed up for following some of the uh right in
you may be right, he's a minister. I think. I
think he's a left wing minister who got caught following
(27:59):
OnlyFans earls on his Oh yeah, and I wanted to
make sure I got this right. Devout Christian Democrat James
Tallerico following a bunch of porn stars and prostitutes. He's
the Jesus Shepherd, it to everybody buck he was following.
According to The New York Post, here, a woman who
self described as a bisexual Latina cyberslut on Instagram. You know,
(28:25):
you know the I appreciate the fact that she's checking
a lot of boxes back that she's a what a
bisexual cyber slut. Yes, Latina, a bisexual Latin. This is
her self description in her profile. So perhaps he was
just trying to minister to her. Yes, I probably, like Jesus,
probably trying to convert her from her ways of sin
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and walk in the light of the Lord. But I
would just point out that this is the modern Mary Magdalen.
I see exactly where he's going with this. That's why
he's following her. I would just point out that famous
ministers are often intertwined with prostitutes, and not usually for
the Ministry. That seems to happen quite frequently in the
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Ministry universe. Maybe they start out with good intentions and
then they start to walk with the devil a bit. Look,
I think Jasmin Crockett's going to be the nominee, and
I think she's going to be angling for we played
view clips. I tweeted this, I think she's angling to
get a job on the view. I think she's looked around.
You go look at the way she spends money. I
think our friend Jesse Kelly pointed this out, and once
(29:29):
you see it, it's hard not to notice. Most politicians
want to live like rich people without doing the work
that requires you to do to become rich. And so
I was looking at the expenses that Jasmin Crockett has
run up on super fancy luxury hotel rooms, and look,
if you're fortunate enough to make good money and you
(29:50):
want to stay in a super fancy luxury hotel room,
more power to you. Using to drink a little rose,
We're not throwing any stones here over that. Look, using
your campaign funds to pay for you to stay in
multi thousand dollars a night hotel rooms is just gross
to me. Using campaign funds to play pay for your
(30:10):
private jet travel gross to me. And look, she wants
to live the lifestyle that super millionaires live without actually
being a millionaire herself, and this is her pathway to
do it. The View or CNN or you know, MS now,
whatever the heck they're called. Now they'll give her a
(30:31):
million dollar contract after she gets smoked in the Texas
Senate race. And again, I think we should have a
conversation about this. And whilst Bill O'Reilly's going to be
on with this next hour. I think this is a
panic inside the Democrat Party about her becoming a face. Well,
think about it this way. Would you rather make two
hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year and be one
of one hundred senators from Texas or make call it
(30:55):
three to five million dollars a year to be a
panelist on the view If you're Jasmine Crockett, take a
side or you know, put aside serving the country and
doing good legislation, like which of those options strikes you
as more appealing? And we already know what her speech
is going to be, Buck, It's going to be that
Texas wasn't ready for a black woman as strong as
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voiced as she is, but the nation may be, and
she's going to take her voice to the nation. That'll
be her when she is with That will be her
speech in the aftermath of getting smoked in the election.
It will be this was racism, this was sexism. But
I'm not done fighting. I'm taking the battle now to
the nation and she's going to run for president twenty
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twenty eight and her entire platform will be America is
racist against Black women and yet she will be making
millions of dollars a year to basically just be a
black woman who says America hates black women. It's really
quite an unbelievable turn. But I'm telling you how the
next two years of her career are going to go.
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Patriots radio hosts a couple of regular guys, Clay Travis
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Speaker 1 (33:37):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you. We're going to be joined by Bill O'Reilly.
Top of the next hour. We should mention I don't
know how much time you spent on this Friday, but
since we were talking about the situation with the Senate
race in Texas with Jasmincrockett being in it. The Supreme
Court basically said the red drawn map from Texas is legal,
(34:03):
and that is one of the aspects I think that
motivated Jasmincrockett to run because her district, I think could
be impacted by the redistricting that is being laid out
there that will likely lead to five more Republican seats,
And as a part of this six' to three. Decision
as we speak right, NOW i Believe indiana is trying
(34:25):
to push through in Their senate a redistricting that would
add Two republican. Seats we'll keep you updated on. That,
florida where you, live buck is contemplating redrawing their districts as,
well and there is still a Major Supreme court decision
to come that actually will be addressing, minority sorry majority
(34:48):
minority districts and whether they are constitutional in the wake
of the civil rights movement and the era that we
now live. In So michael In atlanta has a thought on.
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Speaker 7 (35:00):
Us hey, Guys, mary Christ, hey, Guys, Christmas, Mary, Christmas. Christmas,
YEAH i wanted to say THAT i really actually think
That Colin ulright is the smart guy out this whole,
thing because if you look at, it, one he lost
The senate race To Tech cruise, already so he's going
in sort of in a. Deficit Then Desmond, crockett as we,
(35:23):
know is not the brightest, ball AND i think he realizes,
that so he goes and runs for his previous. District
he doesn't have to run and make that much money
in campaign compared to running A senate, campaign AND i
think he'll he'll win while she'll lose and he'll basically
get back into. Politics SO i think he actually made
the smart move and she made The time of. Movie
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that's my.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Point, well, look you're, presuming AND i Think buck has it.
RIGHT i think we have it. Right that the goal
is to be In congress and make one hundred and
eighty thousand dollars a. YEAR i don't think that's our.
GOAL i think she sees The senate race as an
opportunity to increase her national. PROFILE i, mean Remember, Beto
beto got beaten By Ted cruz but thought that he
was gonna Be remember THAT i was born for this
(36:08):
cover where he argued he was born he was born
to raise a lot of, money being vanity fair and
lose by a, law and then he launched his presidential
campaign and it was dead on. Arrival and SO i
Think Jasmine crockett, BELIEVES i think, inaccurately BUT i think
she believes this is going to launch her to more
national prominence even if she. Loses it's because the state
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is racist and. Sexist it Wasn't bedo's. Fault it was
all THE ar. Fifteens they all got together in THE ar,
fifteens they voted against. Him
Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis
end Buck Sexton Show. Getting deep into December already. I
can't believe it much to discuss. In fact, without even
planning this, Clay, I'm sitting here in a Crockett T
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We've got cold bean ground, bean cake cup mushroom Blend.
It's amazing, plus great gear. I bring it up though,
because there is a different Crockett in the news. We
will be discussing that momentarily, Jasmine Crocket. Now we do
have to take into account, Clay, the possibility that worsh
you to say, run for president, You and I would
(00:42):
often be seen in public wearing Crockett gear, and this
could be confusing. So we're gonna have to address this
somehow looks like we're out there canvassing for votes for
missus Jasmine Crockett of the House of Representatives, when in
fact we're just trying to sell you the best coffee
that you'll ever have. So we'll talk about Jasmine crockettnouncing
her Senate run coming off. We've also got more on
(01:03):
the Minnesota and Somali American fraud situation playing out. We
have a Trump interview with Dasha Burns of Politico addressing
a whole range of issues. We'll bring you the highlights
of that. Trump was at a ECON roundtable yesterday, got
to talk affordability. In fact, Uncle Bill also known as
(01:26):
Bill O'Reilly, bestselling author, TV host, etc. He will be
with us at one eastern here next hour on the program.
We'll ask him a lot of things, but certainly about
the affordability question, because I think that is what will
determine most likely determine the mid terms the outcome, more
than any other single issue. But I actually wanted to
(01:47):
start with this one, if I may, mister Clay. Yesterday
we had mentioned this, but there were oral arguments in
front of the Supreme Court yesterday, and those oral arguments
included a case that goes right to presidential power, presidential authority,
whether essentially the president can fire people who work for
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the executive branch, or is there truly a forever state,
a deep state, whatever you want to call it. There
are people who are the bureaucracy that are effectively a
fourth branch of government because they cannot be fired by
the executive branch. They are not employees of the legislative branch.
They're certainly not part of the judicial branch. So what
(02:30):
the heck is going on here? It is a very
interesting question, I think, Clay. The outcome should be quite clear.
And yet here is Catanji Brown Jackson, who I think
you'd have to say is the most left wing member
of the Court. She also, and this is I mean this,
she talks the most by far of anybody on the Court,
(02:51):
and that's just a question of timing. On the transcript,
she talks the most by far, and unfortunately sometimes shows
that she doesn't really understand the very basics of our government,
which for Supreme Court justice I think is a problem.
Here she is yesterday Clay on the issue of presidential authority,
and can you fire these forever bureaucrats play cut six.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Some issues, some matters, some areas should be handled in
this way by nonpartisan experts. That Congress is saying that
expertise matters with respect to aspects of the economy and
transportation and the various independent agencies that we have. So
(03:34):
having a president come in and fire all the scientists
and the doctors, and the economists and the PhDs, and
replacing them with loyalists and people who don't know anything
is actually not in the best interest of the citizens
of the United States. These issues should not be in
presidential control.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Whose control should they be? And then Clay, that's the
question that seems obvious, among others, that Katangi Brown Jackson
I do not think has a particularly erudite answer to.
I have never said this before. I would be a
better Supreme Court justice than Katanji Brown Jackson, and I
would not be a great Supreme Court justice. I don't
(04:16):
think she has the intellectual theft to do this job,
and the questions that she asks confirm that on a
regular basis. Look, what she's trying to grapple with inarticulately
is the concept of where do the powers of the
presidency extend and how to they implicate the powers of Congress.
(04:39):
So essentially what we've got here, and it is I
think it actually intriguing. An important position is how do
you end up making choices on Let me take a
step back and explain, because I think this has gotten
confusing to a lot of people, and I don't think
it's overwhelmingly confusing, So let me just kind of lay
out the issue here. About one hundred years ago, Congress
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started to create these independent regulatory agencies inside of government
that were basically neither executive nor congressional in nature. They
were kind of a hybrid, and effectively, the question is
and most of the time the terms on these agencies rotate,
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and they're supposed to be mixed Democrat, Republican and all
of these things. And the question really at essence here
is where does that fall within separation of powers? Because
if you decide that these people are doing a bad job,
the president is saying, I should have the authority to
fire them because they are acting in an executive capacity.
(05:45):
Katanji Brown Jackson is trying to argue that they are
independent of the entire political process, but derive their power
from congressional authorization and therefore should be able to serve
in their office without the need to be at the
behest of anyone. Right, And I think for most of
us out there, we say, wait a minute. In a government,
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people should be actionable, and if you're acting in some
form in an executive capacity, the president should have the
ability to decide whether or not someone is on one
of these agencies. And Kataji Brown Jackson is trying to say, well,
we need experts from outside the world of politics. Let's
actually anti democratic, right, because the entire process of our
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country is predicated on there should be people who are
able to be removed if the will of the people
is violated on some level. And that's really what all
this is about. And look, it's getting tied up in Trump,
but I actually think that's a poor way of the
media conveying it because Trump's only going to be president
for three more years, and largely the question is what
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are the powers of the executive as it pertains to
these agencies. And I happen to think the executive should
have the power or to remove. But Katanji Brown Jackson,
let's go back to her for a minute, buck, because
I actually think there's an argument that her selection for
the Supreme Court quite clearly violated federal law because Biden
(07:15):
said I'm only going to pick a black woman. You
could not do that in almost any job in America
without violating the law, because you shouldn't ever say the
only person who can get publicly, the only person who
can get this job is a black woman. In doing so,
Buck Biden eliminated ninety seven percent of all individuals from
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being able to be considered. I think three percent of
the overall court is made up of the overall legal
apparatus made up a black woman. I don't think that
he could appoint her. I think there is an argument
that her appointment was illegal under federal law because it
clearly violates principles that the Supreme Court has our ticulated
(08:00):
when it comes to how to consider race and sex
in terms of jobs. I also think she's not going
to win you over with more of her oral arguments,
which we're about to play here, Clay. In terms of
her ability to under I don't mean I may disagree,
and I do disagree with Kagan, for example, on a
lot of things. I do think she understands what's going on,
(08:22):
meaning I think she understands competing is forseally a brilliant lawyer. Yeah,
she's and the constitutional framework that we are discussing. So
while I can disagree, she understands what does my side say?
What does your side say? I don't think a Tanji
Brown Jackson really understands what the sides are in this.
She just knows what she wants. She's a Poloiticisian. She's
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effectively a legislator wearing judicial robes. And here she is
more of the k J. I'm sorry, k b J
Rant play seven.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Can you speak to me about the danger of allowing
in these various areas the president to actually control the
Transportation Board and potentially the Federal Reserve and all these
other independent agencies in these particular areas, we would like
to have independence. We don't want the president controlling I
guess what I don't understand from your overarching argument is
(09:15):
why that determination of Congress, which makes perfect sense given
its duty to protect the people of the United States,
why that is subjugated to a concern about the president
not being able to control everything. I mean, I appreciate
there's a conflict between the two, but one would think
under our constitutional design, given the history of the monarchy
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and the concerns that the Framers had about a president
controlling everything, that in the clash between those two congresses,
view that we should be able to have independence with
respect to certain issues should take precedence.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I don't what does she even say. She sounds to
me like she thinks that there is a special imputed
power from Congress to have elements of government outside the
executive branch, outside the legislative branch, where people are unfirable
because of their so called expertise. I mean, this case
comes from trying to fire someone on the Federal Trade Commission, Right,
(10:18):
it's the case is Trump Vslaughter, and it's about firing
an FTC director. I think we could find somebody else
to do the FTC job, thank you very much. I
think really what this goes to, Clay, is that Democrats
cling to this, if you will, Fauciite power, going back
(10:39):
to doctor Fauci of people who can have vast power
within the bureaucracy but are answer will answering to no one,
because bureaucrats tend to be Democrats. Also, it's Congress not
doing its job, because I mean, this is very basic
and I get it that when you go to separation
of powers, where we really run into where the rubber
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meets the road is where do you define the separation
of the power? Right, this is Marbarry v. Madison back
in the day with Hey. The Supreme Court has the
ability to review any actions of the executive or the
or the obviously a congressional power and try to make
a determination there. But again, I don't have any problem
(11:23):
with Katanji Brown Jackson's perspectives, but she she everything that
she does, it appears that she thinks she's a senator
or a governor or even a presidential candidate. She wants
to do politics, that's fine, but the job of a
justice sitting on the Supreme Court is not to articulate
political arguments, and that's all she seems capable of doing. Well,
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I don't think she knows the difference, which is a
huge problem. Well that I think she's showing an issue
deeply mired in her perspective, point of view and political ideology,
that she does not know the difference between the role
of a judge and the role of a legislator. That's
what came across to me in this argument, that she
has no idea that she couldn't make a distinction really,
(12:10):
because she's saying things like, Okay, well, who determines that
these people are experts? Someone hired them somewhere along the line,
so who gets to fire them? I mean, if you
start to work backward from her premise, so once you
work for the FTC, you get to stay there forever.
Explain this to me. We can't find somebody better. I
think what you're seeing also internally in the Supreme Court
(12:31):
is there's a growing disrespect of Katanji Brown Jackson's seat
on the Supreme Court. I think you saw it when
Amy Coney Barrett slapped her down in kind of unprecedented terms.
But there was a big article I read in the
New York Times recently where even Elena Kagan and Justice
Soto Mayor are not that happy with Katanji Brown Jackson.
(12:53):
And so I think this is a curse that she
makes their side look silly. Is really what's going on.
This is the lasting curse of the Biden era that
is going to unfortunately stay in the Supreme Court for
the next thirty forty years, maybe long after I'm gone.
Katanji Brown Jackson is I think around fifty years old.
(13:14):
She's probably got thirty years left on the Supreme Court,
and I think she's going to be a real liability
as a justice going forward. And again, I don't know
that I've ever pointed this out with anybody. I don't
think I'm not trying to brag and say, hey, as
a lawyer, I'd be some great Supreme Court justice. I
don't think i'd be very good at it. I would
be better than Katanji Brown Jackson as a Supreme Court
(13:36):
justice play I didn't go to law school, and I
think i'd be better than Katanji Brown Jackson, and I
actually probably there's probably a lot of people out there
that would be better. But again, I think there's an argument.
I've never heard anybody make it, but I think there's
an argument that her appointment is illegal under federal law
and should not stand because of Biden specifically saying I'm
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only going to put a black woman on and by
the way, she's a I think a poor choice within
the black female community. I think Biden not surprisingly made
a poor choice, except to your point, he probably knew
what he was doing, which is just basically putting a
left wing politician on the court to make left wing arguments.
And I think that's why you're seeing Sotomayor and Kagan
(14:18):
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Speaker 1 (16:08):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. I can't
stop thinking about the Katanji Brown Jackson situation. This is
one of those elements, Buck, where when the oral arguments
are released and you hear some of the judges. I
think the most embarrassing oral argument questions I've ever heard
were actually sut a mayor during the vaccine debate. Vaccine
(16:33):
as in quotation marks around COVID where it was clear
sut of Mayor wasn't doing the basic homework. But I
think this is important and worth reiterating. Every justice is
able to hire four of the brightest, most brilliant legal
minds in America to basically do the job for them.
I mean, and I don't know that people spend a
(16:54):
lot of time thinking about this job. But you go
out and you hire the most sterling, being brilliant twenty
five year olds in America, and you have them writing
your opinions and researching all the issues, so they are
handing you All you have to do is just read
the work that they have done to come up with
the arguments that you want to make. And it seems
(17:17):
to me that Katanji Brown Jackson is either hiring morons,
which is possible, or not even doing the bare minimum
of work to read the arguments that they are handing
to her before she goes out and speaks publicly. It
actually reminds me of the girls on the View who
have huge staffs and just won't spend the basic amount
of work to do research to be able to talk.
(17:38):
That's a fabulous transition, because there are some view clips
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I think are people in this audience mishearing the incredible
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Speaker 1 (19:12):
Wait do we not? I just oh, yeah, here we go.
This is what I was talking about here wood Be
Goldberg on this is cut eleven. If you're wondering, what
is the what is sort of the level of Democrat
opposition to this trumpet administration these days? What are the
more eloquent arguments that are being made. I can't help you.
(19:35):
I just know that they hate him and they say
he's not a king, as if we needed to be
reminded of that. This is cut eleven. Listen to this
his personal stuff. I care less.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
I want to know what are you doing for us? Now?
You say you you said you're going to be the
president for everybody, But you haven't been a president for anybody.
You've been a president just for you. Well, the crypto
guys that people in pressed, even the people he's partying,
he's not connected to that. He said he was our president.
(20:08):
He's not our president. He's a guy who likes to
get but kissed.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
That's what he is.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
I need to be the president or your legacy, your legacy,
what's left of it, is going to disappear and you
will just be a footnote like gas in the desert.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I don't think so. I think I think it's the
dominant political figure of the last decade and that's not changing.
But okay, I just can't imagine being arrogant enough to
go on a show and say that a two twice
elected president of the United States is not going to
have any legacy at all. Like you could. You could say, hey,
(20:50):
I think Trump is doing an awful job. I disagree,
but you can make that argument. He is the most
consequential political figure of the world, I would argue in
the twenty first century so far. Now there's still seventy
five years left, so maybe somebody else is going to
come along and bump him off the top of the list.
(21:10):
But since he came down that escalator in twenty fifteen,
Trump is the most significant political figure in the twenty
first century. I don't even think you can argue that.
And also Buck, I would argue, and I think it
starts to get really kind of fascinating. The depends on
(21:31):
how far back you want to go, But let's say
we started nineteen eighty and we make it roughly two generations, right.
Other than Reagan, I think Trump is the most significant
political figure in the last forty years. And the reason
why I say Reagan is the most significant in the
last it's forty five years, I guess technically is because
(21:51):
of the Cold War and the opening of Eastern Europe
and all of those things that Reagan brought about. But
I would put Trump too. Would you sign on to that?
As Reagan won Trump two in the last forty five years.
I think we agree in the twenty first century, Trump
is the most consequential. But I think you can go
back two generations now and say, going back to nineteen eighty,
(22:14):
the only person even in the conversation with Trump is Reagan.
I would put Reagan one in Trump two, and to
a large extent, that's because the reordering of the global uh,
you know, the collapse of communism, all those things. I
think that defeating the evil Empire of the opinion was
a big win. That's a big w Yeah. I don't
think there's any doubt if you're talking about Republican politicians.
(22:36):
I think if you're talking unfortunately, I think Obama has
to be the conversation if you're asked about lasting impact.
But I think so much of the Obama impact was
deeply negative for the country, but he was consequential. We're
still dealing with the consequences. But yes, for Republicans, Trump
and Reagan are clearly the the I don't even think
(22:57):
you can just I mean, I think that's including because
I would go Reagan one, I would go Trump to,
I would go Clinton three, I'd go Obama four. I
think it's hard to argue when you get two terms
and then w Bush probably five in the last forty
years in terms of the most impactful. Now you can
argue that they were impactful and a negative way. Obama
(23:19):
had way more impact than Bill Clinton. Wait, really, way more? Yeah,
I think that. I think that Bill Clinton. Well, I'm
saying positive impact. I'm just looking at like who left
their imprint on things, But you're just saying, like, did
some good things. Yeah, sure, who had the most positive
impact in the country. If you go two term presidents
in the last forty years, forty five years, I think
(23:41):
you go Reagan one, Trump two. Now that your argument
of who also considering negative impact gets more challenging. I'm
trying to only look on the bright side of things. Well,
this is like who was the I think it was
I think it was Maybe it was Bill Maher, I
can't remember now, but who said that? Like Time magazine
did their hundred most Influential People of the twentieth century,
(24:03):
and Princess Diana was ahead of Stalin. He's like, he's
like influential. I think that Salin really really funny, more influent. Like,
remember it's not who we like her, who's good influential?
Stalin pretty influential, Uh, you know, committed, you know, but
unfortunately condemned millions and millions of people to die. And
but but I mean definitely had a big influence. So yes,
(24:24):
I think Obama was also very influential, unfortunately in very
bad ways for this country. There may come a time, Clay,
when we have to sit here, perhaps some years ahead,
and discuss the tremendous political influence of the Crockett presidency,
as in Jasmin Crockett. Now, she has not announced for
president to run for president yet, but she has announced
(24:46):
as of yesterday a Senate run and this, my friends,
is cut one. Let's hear her say it.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
I'm asking you to tune out those intrusive voices say
she can't win.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Because she's black, because she's a woman, or because.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
She's a democrat.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
If you believe women should be in all spasis, then
I ask you to stand with me.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
She is going to do nothing but elevate her brand,
raise her profile. I understand. Is she gonna win a
Senate race in Texas? No, she is not. Now, you
can't go to sleep on this one, Texans. A lot
of you listening here, you can't go to sleep on
this one because they're hoping that complacency becomes their greatest
(25:32):
asset in a place like Texas where we have a
clear advantage. But she's gonna get a lot of media attention.
She's gonna lose this Senate race, and then she's gonna
run for president. Lay Now, I don't think she's gonna
win that either, But you're gonna be seeing a lot
more Jasmine Crockett in the years ahead.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I don't think there's any doubt that this is an
angle to get I think what she's gonna do is
First of all, we should play this audio because this
kind of tells you everything about what is she going
to try to do? Will she convert Trump voters to
vote for her? That's the only way she can win.
(26:09):
There is no mathematical equation in the state of Texas
that allows a Texas Democrat to win without getting a
ton of people who voted for President Trump to also
vote for you. That is the math, very basic. She
answers that question of what she's trying to do here
Buck with her answer to cut three.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
Listen, how you make voters who previously voted for Trump,
particularly given that you have been an outspoken critic and
he has inserted himself Just take your campaign video as is.
He has inserted himself at every turn when it comes
to your commentary. How will you convert those who are
supportive of him to voters for you? Yeah, I don't
(26:49):
know that will necessarily convert all of Trump' supporters.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
That's not our you need to. Our goal is to
definitely talk to people. No, we don't. We don't need to.
That's the that's the game. I think she's running for
a good media job that she thinks will pay her
more At CNN or MSNBC. Her profile will increase, and
then I think she'll run for president in twenty twenty eight.
(27:13):
And again, to your point, not very many people lose
from running for president her profile increases. I think there's
a quiet panic in the Democrat Party over the fact
that she's running. Already. One Colin Allred has dropped out.
He was the nominee who ran against Ted Kruz, moderate
ish guy, former NFL player, and now it's Crockett versus
(27:36):
tall Rico. I hope she wins. I hope she wins
on March third, which is going to be here faster
than we know it. The guy that got that got
roughed up for following some of the uh right in
you may be right, he's a minister. I think. I
think he's a left wing minister who got caught following
(27:59):
OnlyFans earls on his Oh yeah, and I wanted to
make sure I got this right. Devout Christian Democrat James
Tallerico following a bunch of porn stars and prostitutes. He's
the Jesus Shepherd, it to everybody buck he was following.
According to The New York Post, here, a woman who
self described as a bisexual Latina cyberslut on Instagram. You know,
(28:25):
you know the I appreciate the fact that she's checking
a lot of boxes back that she's a what a
bisexual cyber slut. Yes, Latina, a bisexual Latin. This is
her self description in her profile. So perhaps he was
just trying to minister to her. Yes, I probably, like Jesus,
probably trying to convert her from her ways of sin
(28:46):
and walk in the light of the Lord. But I
would just point out that this is the modern Mary Magdalen.
I see exactly where he's going with this. That's why
he's following her. I would just point out that famous
ministers are often intertwined with prostitutes, and not usually for
the Ministry. That seems to happen quite frequently in the
(29:07):
Ministry universe. Maybe they start out with good intentions and
then they start to walk with the devil a bit. Look,
I think Jasmin Crockett's going to be the nominee, and
I think she's going to be angling for we played
view clips. I tweeted this, I think she's angling to
get a job on the view. I think she's looked around.
You go look at the way she spends money. I
think our friend Jesse Kelly pointed this out, and once
(29:29):
you see it, it's hard not to notice. Most politicians
want to live like rich people without doing the work
that requires you to do to become rich. And so
I was looking at the expenses that Jasmin Crockett has
run up on super fancy luxury hotel rooms, and look,
if you're fortunate enough to make good money and you
(29:50):
want to stay in a super fancy luxury hotel room,
more power to you. Using to drink a little rose,
We're not throwing any stones here over that. Look, using
your campaign funds to pay for you to stay in
multi thousand dollars a night hotel rooms is just gross
to me. Using campaign funds to play pay for your
(30:10):
private jet travel gross to me. And look, she wants
to live the lifestyle that super millionaires live without actually
being a millionaire herself, and this is her pathway to
do it. The View or CNN or you know, MS now,
whatever the heck they're called. Now they'll give her a
(30:31):
million dollar contract after she gets smoked in the Texas
Senate race. And again, I think we should have a
conversation about this. And whilst Bill O'Reilly's going to be
on with this next hour. I think this is a
panic inside the Democrat Party about her becoming a face. Well,
think about it this way. Would you rather make two
hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year and be one
of one hundred senators from Texas or make call it
(30:55):
three to five million dollars a year to be a
panelist on the view If you're Jasmine Crockett, take a
side or you know, put aside serving the country and
doing good legislation, like which of those options strikes you
as more appealing? And we already know what her speech
is going to be, Buck, It's going to be that
Texas wasn't ready for a black woman as strong as
(31:16):
voiced as she is, but the nation may be, and
she's going to take her voice to the nation. That'll
be her when she is with That will be her
speech in the aftermath of getting smoked in the election.
It will be this was racism, this was sexism. But
I'm not done fighting. I'm taking the battle now to
the nation and she's going to run for president twenty
(31:37):
twenty eight and her entire platform will be America is
racist against Black women and yet she will be making
millions of dollars a year to basically just be a
black woman who says America hates black women. It's really
quite an unbelievable turn. But I'm telling you how the
next two years of her career are going to go.
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Speaker 1 (33:37):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you. We're going to be joined by Bill O'Reilly.
Top of the next hour. We should mention I don't
know how much time you spent on this Friday, but
since we were talking about the situation with the Senate
race in Texas with Jasmincrockett being in it. The Supreme
Court basically said the red drawn map from Texas is legal,
(34:03):
and that is one of the aspects I think that
motivated Jasmincrockett to run because her district, I think could
be impacted by the redistricting that is being laid out
there that will likely lead to five more Republican seats,
And as a part of this six' to three. Decision
as we speak right, NOW i Believe indiana is trying
(34:25):
to push through in Their senate a redistricting that would
add Two republican. Seats we'll keep you updated on. That,
florida where you, live buck is contemplating redrawing their districts as,
well and there is still a Major Supreme court decision
to come that actually will be addressing, minority sorry majority
(34:48):
minority districts and whether they are constitutional in the wake
of the civil rights movement and the era that we
now live. In So michael In atlanta has a thought on.
That what's got for?
Speaker 7 (35:00):
Us hey, Guys, mary Christ, hey, Guys, Christmas, Mary, Christmas. Christmas,
YEAH i wanted to say THAT i really actually think
That Colin ulright is the smart guy out this whole,
thing because if you look at, it, one he lost
The senate race To Tech cruise, already so he's going
in sort of in a. Deficit Then Desmond, crockett as we,
(35:23):
know is not the brightest, ball AND i think he realizes,
that so he goes and runs for his previous. District
he doesn't have to run and make that much money
in campaign compared to running A senate, campaign AND i
think he'll he'll win while she'll lose and he'll basically
get back into. Politics SO i think he actually made
the smart move and she made The time of. Movie
(35:45):
that's my.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Point, well, look you're, presuming AND i Think buck has it.
RIGHT i think we have it. Right that the goal
is to be In congress and make one hundred and
eighty thousand dollars a. YEAR i don't think that's our.
GOAL i think she sees The senate race as an
opportunity to increase her national. PROFILE i, mean Remember, Beto
beto got beaten By Ted cruz but thought that he
was gonna Be remember THAT i was born for this
(36:08):
cover where he argued he was born he was born
to raise a lot of, money being vanity fair and
lose by a, law and then he launched his presidential
campaign and it was dead on. Arrival and SO i
Think Jasmine crockett, BELIEVES i think, inaccurately BUT i think
she believes this is going to launch her to more
national prominence even if she. Loses it's because the state
(36:30):
is racist and. Sexist it Wasn't bedo's. Fault it was
all THE ar. Fifteens they all got together in THE ar,
fifteens they voted against. Him
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