December 10, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show kicks off with Clay broadcasting from Birmingham, Alabama, where he’s set to speak to hundreds of listeners later in the evening. The hour dives into major cultural and political topics shaping the national conversation. First up is the announcement of Jasmine Crockett’s Senate campaign in Texas, which Clay and Buck analyze as a strategic move likely fueled by inflated online support and aimed at boosting her national profile. They predict her candidacy will generate media attention but question her chances in a deeply conservative state.
The discussion then pivots to sports and cultural commentary as the world’s number one women’s tennis player publicly denounces the inclusion of biological men in women’s athletics. Clay and Buck praise her stance as common sense and note the significance of such a high-profile athlete speaking out on fairness in sports. This leads to a broader conversation about gender roles, masculinity, and societal trends. The hosts dissect Minnesota Governor Tim Walz’s viral comments claiming Republicans criticize him because they’re “intimidated by his masculinity.” Clay and Buck mock the performative masculinity Democrats attempt to project, arguing that progressive ideology undermines traditional gender norms and alienates male voters.
From there, the hour explores deeper cultural issues, including declining birth rates and delayed marriage trends. Clay delivers a passionate monologue on the consequences of prioritizing career over family, warning that societal messaging has misled women into postponing marriage and motherhood, creating long-term demographic and civilizational challenges. Buck adds perspective on the importance of gender roles and family structure, emphasizing that these norms exist for a reason and contribute to societal stability.
The conversation takes a sharp turn into media ethics and political discourse as Clay and Buck address the disturbing attacks on Erika Kirk, widow of Charlie Kirk, who was assassinated 90 days ago. They condemn left-wing commentators for labeling her a “grifter” and calling for her to be “kicked to the curb,” praising Erica’s advocacy as selfless and honorable. The hosts highlight John Fetterman’s unexpected defense of Erika and criticize the silence of some conservatives who should be speaking out. This segment underscores the toxic nature of modern political rhetoric and the moral obligation to defend grieving families from partisan cruelty.
Hour 1 closes with lighter moments, including Clay’s controversial take on Christmas music being overplayed and a humorous exchange about holiday gift-giving traditions. The hosts agree that Christmas gifts should be reserved for children, sparking listener reactions and playful banter about practical presents versus extravagant gestures. Clay also teases an upcoming appearance on Kayleigh McEnany’s Fox News show, promising to address recent on-air jabs about his fondness for rosé wine.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome. In Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, I
appreciate everyone out there hanging with us, and I would
like to say thank you to our affiliate here in Birmingham, Alabama.
I am down to speak this evening, and I am
looking forward to speaking to hundreds of our listeners a
(00:22):
little bit later this evening. But I also appreciate the
fact that we have a monster audience here. We're often
number one in this marketplace, and so thank you to
everyone that's making that happen all over the country, but
particularly today for everyone in the Birmingham, Alabama area. All Right, Buck,
we got a lot to dive into. Our good friend
(00:43):
Jasmine Crockett is officially under sorry, is officially underway in
her campaign for the Senate in Texas.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
There are reports that there was.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
A deluge of fake support, motivated by publican activists who
were praying that she would think it was real and
decide to enter the race.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We will have some fun with that.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Susie Wiles, President Trump's chief of staff, weighing in as
the President hit the road in Pennsylvania and began to
make the case for why you should support his agenda.
In twenty twenty six and why you should vote for Republicans.
We will discuss that we finally had a super powerful,
positive women's athlete, in fact, the number one tennis player
(01:32):
in the world. I might mispronounce her name because I
will confess that I am not a huge women's is
it Ariana Sabolenka.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Did I get that right? Na Sablenka?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Okay, she has absolutely teed off on the idea. She's
the world's number one tennis player. She is absolutely teed
off on the idea that there should be any men
involved in women's athletics at all, And that sounds something
that is very common sense. But I think she probably
has become the most famous women's athlete, certainly the most
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famous current women's athlete to have spoken out about this.
She is the world's number one tennis player. We may
talk about that, but I thought we could have some fun.
This has gone viral. It was out for a little while.
One quick thing from the tennis world. I thought so interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Of the top ten female highest paid athletes in the world,
this was just I saw this in the last week
and I thought, of you, mister sports. Yes, I think
eight of them are female tennis players. Which tells you
something about the global popularity of women's tennis. It's actually
a great sport. If you're a high level men's tennis player,
watching the women is actually better for you because you're
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never going to serve like those guys. But you can
learn more from the pace of women's professional tennis anyway.
I also, by the way, not that I'm very good
at tennis at all, I would rather watch a three
set tennis match at most than a five set tennis match,
just because I don't want to watch a four hour
sporting event if I don't have to, So I actually
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prefer that they get done in three sets.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But so we will talk a little bit about that.
Buck remember one hundred and three mile an hour serve.
He doesn't need to watch women's tennis players, says he
has such a.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
One to three by the women serve like one twenty.
But we don't have to talk about that right now.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
It's okay, speaking of masculine Tim Walls, this has gone
viral in the last couple of days.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Evidently, Tim Walls was on.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
With uh with Gavin Newsom on that podcast that Gavin
Newsom does, and he decided to weigh in on masculinity,
and he said that the reason why he gets so
much criticism from Republicans is because they are intimidated by
his masculinity.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
This is real.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Now, to be fair, this was from March, but this
is Tim Walls talking about what a man he is.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Listen, this notion of toxicity and masculinity has to be separated,
and I think it's been conflated.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
And I think we we We're gonna have to work
on that.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
A little bit. And I think there's Look, there is
a christ I think so much scare them. I think
I scare them a little bit.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Why they spend so much time on this.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
No, I'm serious, because I can fix a truck.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
They know I'm not bullshit on this. Yeah, I'm not
putting this in people's grill. I don't know if my
identity is not hunting. My identity is not football coaching.
My identity is not you know, a beard in a truck.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
This is again I've said this before, but I think
I think I wrote it in my book. Tim Walls
is a lesbian woman's idea of a man that will
appeal to men, and Democrats are aware that they have
an issue with male voters, but Buck. They lack the
ability to just be normal dudes to such an extent
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that they end up picking guys like Tim Walls, who
they think, we made fun of this for all last year.
But they put him in a car heart and they
put him in boots, and they gave him a gun,
and they had him walk around and they were like, oh, see,
this is a normal guy. And he's not a normal
guy because normal guys don't think that dudes with penises
should be in women's locker rooms and they don't believe that,
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but women are actually men, and they don't understand even
how to talk to men.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, this is exactly the point, though, to be in
good standing with the Democrat Party, you have to. Now
people say, well, what about like there are a lot
of uh, you know, masculine particularly like masculine black men
who are Democrats, and they're yeah, they don't talk about
the trans issue publicly. They also don't actually pay attention
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to what Democrats say today. They're sort of vestigial Democrats
because from the nineties and the early two thousand.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
But not for me.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
My point here is is like, you know, yeah, like
there are a lot of like, you know, NBA players
who I'm sure like came out for Kamala and we're
big you know, Democrat voters.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
They're not big on the trans issue though, right.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I mean, you know, you start to break down the
Democrat coalition very quickly and see that if you're going
to be somebody who is on board with the Democrat
agenda in public, you're going to have to take positions
that normal masculine men find preposterous, find demeaning, finds abhorrence, right,
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a whole range of things. Like a normal man hears, hey,
I think that twelve year old should start to get
hormones because they've come home from school one day and say,
I'm not a boy, I'm actually a girl. A normal
dad who's like a dad dad, here's that and goes,
you're twelve years old. This is insane. What's going on here?
The science behind this is completely science actually shows it's
(06:42):
a horrible idea. But put that aside. Normal men hear that,
they say this, Normal men hear things like toxic masculinity
and inherently cringe because they go, really, toxic masculinity is
actually just undermining masculinity, because what you're doing is setting
up a paradigm where nothing can be good that is masculine.
The only things that are actually singular to masculinity are
(07:05):
bad things, right, Because Clay, if I say what's good masculinity?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
And you saw this was the the probably the.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Best known exchange I had on that that Bill maher appearance, which,
by the way, the reason I've mentioned a few times
is because it was fun. I got to go on
a Democrat show in front of a Democrat audience and
basically spike the football before Trump's election on all of
this and everything was true and now they've had to
admit it, all right, So it was like a particular moment.
But I said, so you can't say masculinity is courage
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because then feminists and you know, left wingers go.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
What about courageous women?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
And really it's like, so nothing is allowed to be
specifically masculine that is good. Normal guys see that. They
think that's absurd. You go down this list of stuff.
By the way, masculine men don't think that criminals should
be able to hurt people, women, children, old people.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
And get away with it.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Masculine men hear that and they're like, I want to
go kick someone's ass.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And you know, if you're a democrat. If you're a
democrat's you have to do the whole like well, maybe
the seventieth time you got arrested was when you were
ready for reform.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
This is why Clay, to your point of course, this
is what has happened, and Democrats are just trying to
pretend like this isn't the obvious reality.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I spend a ton of time thinking about this because
it troubles me. It troubles me because if you look
at population collapsing, what is let's take a step back,
what is ultimate success between men and women when it
comes to our interactions and our relationships. It's children, right,
that is the ultimate success story. Now I understand some
(08:38):
of you have incredibly loving marriages and you never had children.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And I'm not demeaning that.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I'm just saying the ultimate goal of our species is
that we have to have children to propagate the species.
We're failing at that. We are failing as a society
in the most civilized, the most brilliant historical record countries
and their very different, whether it's Japan or Italy and
(09:07):
now in the United States, certainly in Britain, Germany, like
you just run through the list we're failing at producing
more children than existed before us, and that is not
a good thing. It's actually potentially going to lead to
serious civilizational issues.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I think, Clay, that your man explaining and leaving out
all of the intersex and non binary individuals who have
also chosen not to have children because of climate anxiety.
So really we need to be more inclusive of their
multiple psychoses.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
And by the way, one of the challenges here is
I was reading yesterday, I believe the average age for
marriage is now over thirty. Let me make a psa here.
That's fine for dudes. Women you should be getting married
way younger. And I'm not trying to set anybody off
(09:59):
on a foot panic, but this whole idea that women
should be the same as men. There are a lot
of moron guys out there that suddenly looked around at
forty five or fifty or even fifty five and said, hey,
you know what, I'd really like to have kids that
still had the ability to do it. There's a lot
(10:20):
of women that get to that age and they say,
but wait, I went to grad school, I did everything,
I was a girl boss, I did everything that society
told me I should do. And I passed up on
marriage because I couldn't find mister Wright, and I was
so focused on my career. I don't think the aspiration
of anyone, male or female should be to desperately claw
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their way to middle management at the expense of having children.
And so I think we've sold a bill of goods here.
And if I had daughters, I'd be talking to them
about this. It's actually good to get married in your
twenties if you're a girl. It's actually good to have
children in your twenties if you are female. Men we
have the luxury of being morons for a long time
(11:06):
because of biology. But this idea of men are gonna
get married at thirty two or thirty three or forty
five or fifty or whatever it is. No, I feel
like no one tells women this. And then you go
and you get you know, get your advanced degree and
you bust your ass in a law firm for five
or six years, or you're a you know, doctor or
an architect or whatever supreme achievement you have, and then
(11:30):
you have a great deal of difficulty. They call it
after thirty five buck, you know what, They call it
a geriatric pregnancy.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Oh, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I don't think of people as thirty five years old
as being old. Most of you don't either, but biologically
you're starting to get old, it becomes more difficult. So anyway,
I'm fired up about this because it's becoming a bigger
issue every year. Men and women are not getting along.
Men should be masculine, women should be feminine, and we
shouldn't confuse the two, and that's actually a very good thing.
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And the fact that Democrats can't get this right, I
think culturally is why they've lost men. And I think
increasingly women are getting angry at what they see as
what they've been sold versus the reality. It ain't that
good to be a girl boss and be in middle
management when you're fifty eight years old. I'm telling you,
I bet a lot of people end up regretting that choice.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I mean, there are differences with the genders. You know,
at nighttime duty Speed calls out for mama. That's his
favorite word. He wants his mommy. That's his favorite person
in the whole world. That is the person closer than
any other. And that's the way that it's supposed to be.
If something goes crash, bang, whatever in the middle of
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the night, Dad, Dad grabs his clock nineteen and goes
to check it out and see what the heck is
going on downstairs. Right, Gender roles are a good thing
in many, many cases, almost almost all cases. There's a
reason gender roles exist pretty much. I mean, there's a
whole anyway. This this is a big discussion. But this
(13:06):
is funny that that Tim Tim Walls is still You
could tell he's really sore about that thing.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
He thought. His ace up the sleeve was like, got
my carheart, check it on, I'm gonna go. You know,
they tried to call him.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Remember when they introduced him at the Democrat National Convention.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
They didn't call him Governor Walls. They called him Coach Walls.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So they thought they were going to Friday Night Lights,
Eric Taylor him, everybody was gonna come around and this
guy with spirit fingers walking around awkwardly doing leg kicks.
Most dudes were not That's like, most guys were thinking
were not funny. And I actually recept like that was
the most interesting thing that you know, his jazz hands
was a level of creativity that I was not expecting.
(13:45):
Tak to be fair to him, by the way, for
his age, his leg high kicks were actually fairly fairly impressive.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
He'd be a great run at Tim Walls.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
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Podcasts of those groovy tunes. Doing the trump dance to
those groovy Christmas tunes. You know, Perry's like, fuck, what
are you playing? When we're you know, getting ready for
the party tomorrow. We're putting up garlands and decorations. I'm like, oh, honey,
can you hear that? That's Mannheim steamroller baby, That's how
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Speaker 2 (15:50):
We're pouring in. But I'm right, there's too much Christmas music.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I mean, I'm not saying when you're I work to retail,
we'll play some of your talkbacks, some of your anger,
some of the vitriol it's been descending upon me since yesterday.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
You know, if you're in a store, you're gonna hear
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hear the Christmas music, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
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Do what what is the most what is the spiciest
troll take that you have had on the show of
all time? I mean, flute players are never going to
forgive you, but there's not that many flute players. You're
right about them all, I mean flute player if you
chose to play and oh getting ice cream yourself as
a god. So I still that was harsh. There are
a lot of guys that fell called out by that one.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Well, I mean, I'm right on all these things.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
I understand that some of you feel angered, sometimes attacked
because I'm right and you're wrong. But yeah, like you know,
grown men, Uh, that's actually funny. I was I don't
remember what the kid was, but I have a tendency
of saying nice things to kids because I'm a dad.
I see myself as a dad, like so, uh, you know,
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like if you're out and somebody's biking or something like, hey,
you're doing a good job on that bicycle or what like.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I'm actually a pretty nice person. Laura told me the
other day.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
She was like, I think, because you have a beard
and you're getting older, maybe you shouldn't talk to young
kids as much. And I was like that, you don't know.
I thought I was just being super nice. Like We're
just walking down the sidewalk and you know, you know,
there's like a kid and I'm like, oh, that's a
that's a cool sweatshirt, you know, or hey, you're doing
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a really good job on that bike. I thought I
was just being super nice. She was like, no, I
think I think it's you're getting like you're like the
old guy with the beard, like you're the And I
was like, you're judging there is an old guy level
where you can you can reach old guy level because
I knew a guy like this in New York and
he was he had like an accent to which always
hous and he would just walk by like attractive women
on the Street, and I'd.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Be like, oh, you look beautiful, Dolly beautiful. It was okay.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I think maybe I'm at the creepy age as opposed
to the super old guy, where you can get away
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New Year. Welcome back in Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you rolling with us through the Wednesday
edition of the program. A couple of things that are
out there. I'm looking right now. We're gonna have Erica
(19:16):
Kirk on the show on Friday. It has been ninety days, Buck,
since there was the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I bring that up because so many of the.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Attacks on Erica Kirk have been super nasty, but I
have to give credit too, of all people.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Trump was in Pennsylvania yesterday and John Fetterman tweeted this
earlier today. Buck, it's gross and dehumanizing to attack a
widow with young children after just witnessing his public assassination.
It shouldn't be controversial to put our political views aside
(19:58):
and extend the grace for a deep traumatized family to grieve.
He's referring to this audio, and some of you say, Okay, Clay,
you're giving And I know we talk about this quite
a lot. Buck, You're giving attention to people who don't
deserve it. And I struggle with that sometimes, but this
is not a supremely minority view. There are a lot
(20:22):
of people out there in this holiday season that are
attacking the Kirk family, like Jennifer Welch, super left wing podcaster.
Listen to what she said. That is what John Fetterman
credit to him, is responding to.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
But she's abundantly aware of the when you talk about
women and poverty, that black and brown women stick off
the charts more so than white women. This is an
intentional attack on poor women. And this is a dehumanization,
all done in the name of her Lord and savior,
(20:58):
Jesus Christ, which is the exact opposite of what the
central character of the faith of Christianity preached against. So
this is intentional weaponization of her gender and her faith.
And this she is a grifter. And just look at
the costume changes. Look at the costume change, just look
at the affect and how she does that. It's while
(21:21):
this woman should be kicked to the curb. She is
an absolute grifter, just like Donald Trump and just like
her unrepentant, racist, homophobic husband was.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
So I have a few things, a few thoughts on
this woman who is getting a lot of attention these days.
She is modern Democrat Party leftism, like built in a laboratory,
and she is essentially the the ultimate distillation. Like if
(21:54):
you were to come together and really take the the
the ego, the super ego. So if you were to
look at all of the aspects of the Democrat Party
that have risen to the top of their hierarchy and
the kind of people who are calling the shots of
the Democrat Party, I just want to this absolutely nasty, ignorant,
(22:18):
heinous woman is really the perfect Democrat. She's actually the distillation.
She is purity. She is the ultimate Democrat female in
twenty twenty five going into twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
So I just think everybody should take take stock.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Of that from and her popularity, very rapid popularity, speaks
to speak to that that reality that she is a
very you know, internally a deeply sad and really unscrupulous
and nasty and narcissistic human being.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So I think all that is really well said. I
don't think she stands alone. I think it's important to
recognize that she is becoming popular for what she's saying.
I do think also when you call Erica Kirk a
grifter who should be kicked to the curb, and then
obviously she attacked Charlie. If and I hope God forbid
(23:16):
ohe it never happens. If someone killed me for something
that I was advocating for in public, at a public
event like this, I would hope that my wife would
be an eloquent voice for the arguments that I was
making after I was gone. Erica Kirk, to me, is
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trying to It's the opposite of being a grifter. She's
trying to ensure that her husband did not die in
vain and that the things that he believed in and
that he stood for are not going to pass with him.
So if anything, and I mean this in a very
(24:03):
sincere way, she is being selfless. It's the opposite of grifting.
To me, advocating on behalf of your spouse who can
no longer advocate for himself is one of the great
aspects of marriage that we should all hope that our
lives would embody. And if you're, whether you're a husband
or a wife, speaking for someone who has lost their
(24:24):
life in a violent way and standing up for them,
it's not just that she's wrong and nasty buck, It's
that even the logic of her argument is refuted. To me,
what Erica Kirk is doing is a form of selfless
service for her husband's values that otherwise no one else
can articulate as well as her. Does that make sense?
(24:45):
So it's actually the exact opposite. Even if you want
to give this crazy left wing woman the benefit of
accepting her argument, she's actually saying not only awful things,
but even the logic behind her argument, it's the opposite
what she's saying.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yes, I think that's I think that's all true, and
that's why again, the fact that this person has risen
so much in popularity. I mean, I will tell you
some of the some of the the podcast and and
digital creators that I'm seeing that are have grown to
the absolute top of the charts. I think the apocalypse
(25:24):
is not I don't know what to tell you. It's
a little scary, and I won't get in. I'm not
even thinking about anybody on the right specifically right now.
I'm thinking about some of the ones on the left,
and and one or two that are sort of non political.
But I'm like, that's the dumbest that that woman. Uh well,
now I'm kind of giving away something.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Is I'll just say no, I'll take I'll take the no.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
No, no, I'm you're not thinking of what I'm thinking of. Okay,
you're not thinking of what I'm thinking of. I'm thinking
of somebody who like tells women about how their brain
should function and stuff. I'm like, she was on the
Bill maher show. I don't even think this woman has
sold millions of books. She knows nothing. She knows nothing.
I do not understand. She's a huge, huge podcast. Oh
(26:06):
this is yeah, I think I do know what is
Is she the let them chick yes? Or is that
a different person She's the let them chick yes? Yeah,
I've I've I've had a few dealings with her before
she had this whole thing.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
She actually tried to do radio for a while. I
don't know what to say.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Like the population, I generally celebrate people's popular like I've
always seen here, oh man, like what Rogan built was
incredible and and you know, we're always very grateful for
Rush Limbaugh shoulder, like building the house of talk radio
and shouldering that responsibility in burden for thirty years. And
I think what people do that's greatly successful. But I
(26:45):
want to be able to celebrate it as something that's worthwhile,
even if it's not my thing. You know, people like
some of the true crime podcasts. It's not my cup
of tea. I don't have time for that stuff whatever,
But I can say they're really well done, they're really engrossing.
I've listened to a little bit of them here and there, whatever,
But some of the stuff that is getting really like
this this left wing woman, I can't remember her name,
but when we're talking about and this whole like let
(27:06):
them theory, this is like, this is brain damage, this
is idiocy. I don't know what else to say. I
don't know what people don't understand. I don't understand, like
I don't understand the idea. And again you went to
Blue Sky right after it happened. But I think it's
important to stare at it and recognize that not only
does it exist, it's not some crazy, outlandish not responded
(27:31):
to in a positive way. Take people on the left
that clip we played of the crazy Jennifer Welch chick
tons of mostly women, because I don't think any men
listen to that. Trying to think of a word I
can use without gindness in trouble, I don't think that
many men listen to that show, right, There are a
(27:51):
ton of left wing women that heard everything she said
about Erica Kirk and they were nodding along and they
were saying preach and they just something else.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I'll say that, friends that you're reminding me of this too.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
You know you mentioned like what if something terrible and nothing,
you're gonna be fine, But like theoretically, or rather if
we're talking about this, something terrible happened to you. There
are a bunch of us who would absolutely obviously me,
we do a show together three hours a day, we're
co hosts on this show, would go to the mat
and then some against anybody who would attack Laura, attack
(28:26):
your legacy. Yeah, and I'm just gonna say it. There
are some people who are much closer than I. I
wasn't close to Charlie. We were friendly, you know, I
knew him a bit, you know, we really I kne
him more like ten years ago when he first got started.
But Charlie and I always got a long fine, and
you know, and I respected a lot of what he
had built.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
But I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
There are people that are really close to Charlie who
are letting crazy stuff be said and be said about
his wife and be said, and they are silent on
this issue, and people can say, well, why aren't you
more involved one because, like I said, I didn't actually
know I've never met.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Erica, so I didn't know Charlie that well.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
So it's and but I'm just saying, you know, you said,
what if something happened to me, I don't know how
I'd be able to sleep at night if people were
saying crazy stuff about Laura after somebody had taken you
out of an assassination.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
And I'm just sitting there quietly after being your know,
co host with you for you know.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
But I think that's why it's that the attack is
so unfair to me because to me, her being a
voice as she is in public for Charlie is a
form of selflessness. To me, it is what you would
hope that your significant other would be trying to do
or able to do. And certainly it's a credit to
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Charlie that his wife is an accomplished Yeah, her attacking
and she's the woman who's attacking her is a psycho.
I mean, that's what I'm saying. But there are people
who should be standing up to the psycho and standing
up to some of the craziness out there on Charlie's
behalf and like I said, you might well buck what
about you, guys, I'm not Clay and I were not
you know, we weren't going to turning points in and we
(30:00):
were not super close to Charlie.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Again, friends, we liked him, respect what he did. But
there are people who were like Charlie's squad, Yeah, and
they're silent on this stuff. And I don't want to
call anybody up by name because it's not about that.
But I just hope that maybe someone will hear this
and be like, come on, man, look.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
What do you think this is?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Your buddy got taken out and there's lunacy all over
the place, and this woman is going after Charlie's widow.
And you're not gonna You're not gonna take that up.
You're not gonna say anything. John Fetterman spoke out. I'm
sure Fetterman didn't know Charlie Kirk. I give him, got
a copy of your book Balls, because Federman's got some.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I mean, good for him, but I mean, when is
the standard when you're going after widows?
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
And again I think that she is doing an amazing
job speaking out because they tried to keep Charlie from
speaking out, and the idea that you would attack her
is even even by the standards of accepting that there
is going to be awfulness out there, her being attacked
to the degree that she is is it really has
(31:05):
staggered me and the number of people out there we
know who celebrated Charlie Kirk's death and now also are
calling his widow.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
A grifter who should be kicked to the curb. How
dare she?
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I just it is a sign of a level of
awfulness that exists on the left that frankly, I do
not believe exists on the right.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I don't. I don't think any of you out there if.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Bucks he's got a little crazy lately, I'm a little
sad about what's going on the right, But that's a conversation.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I yeah, Well, there's a lot of craziness out there
in general. But if an innocent person gets assassinated and
then his wife is trying to talk about the things
that he cared about, even if I disagreed with all
the politics, I wouldn't be going at I can't imagine
that there would be a similar vein of awfulness directed
at the left wing version of Erica Kirk to the
(32:02):
extent that she could exist. I really don't think it would.
Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe it would be just as toxic.
I would like to think that that is not true.
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I'll talk to you about we had an election that
actually happened here and not a great outcome. Are you
able to vote in the Miami mayor's race or is
it a small enough area that you're not in it.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I live in Miami Beach. I actually am not a
Miami City resident. It's a different city. I know that's
for a lot of the tourists. It feels like it's
all one place, but it's a little bit of a
Dallas Fort Worth situation, like these are different cities. So
I live in Miami Beach. Our mayor the mayor that
I voted for one reelection, so I was happy about that.
But I'll give you the update here and they're trying
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to push uh, They're trying to push this as oh
the first depth. Well, I'll get into it. But Miami
unfortunately had a loss last night toward socialism, which is
which is unfortunate, and I'll give you the updates on
that one. Also, we have uh, here we go ff
podcast listener Ron from Toledo wants to weigh in on something.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Here we go go ahead, Ron.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Somebody that has a glock nineteen needs to get some
more testosterone get himself in nineteen eleven.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Good listening to you.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
I'm just gonna tell you, man DJ Shipley of Seal
Team six, who I've trained with, he has a Glock
nineteen as his bedside gun.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
So, like, I don't know what, I don't want to say.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
I'm sophisticated enough knowledge of guns to even know the
gun trash talk that that guy's trying to bring.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Ron, Ron from from Toledo, Ohio. I'm glad that you
have a nineteen eleven. I hope that it goes well
with your walker because it's an old man gun.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Okay podcast.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Let's trash talk podcast listener don gg hit it.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
As far as Christmas gifts, Christmas is for kids with
the gifts, especially the little kids and the best gifts
that adults can give each other is not having to
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I agree, I'm totally Except for our sponsors, get those
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as a general premise, unless you're getting one of our
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Speaker 1 (35:33):
Except to tell my wife all the time, living with
me every day is a gift. Why would I need
to give you an additional one?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
We might need a Laura talkback for the Christmas season
on just how living with Clay every day is a gift.
So maybe she'll send that in uh the IP email
from Mark. Hey, guys, I think the real question regarding
Tim Wallas's masculinity is whether he would drink rose. Thank you,
you're doing great.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Jokes? Are you gonna be Are you gonna do Caylee's
show this weekend?
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Are they gonna pull the pull the wool over my
eyes again or pull the rug out from under me?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Maybe? I think I'm doing the show on Saturday morning.
I will be appearing.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I will be responding to the out blandish and outrageous
attacks upon my character that have been levied on Fox
News and Kaylee Mcananey better just buckle up. I know
she's a big deal, former White House Press secretary, got
her own show on Fox News. Mom, she's doing really well,
Harvard lograt. I think all these things very Marry an
MLB player too. Carry's got to run run on the
(36:35):
lot of impressive little check marks there. But I just
am telling her she better buckle up, because you know,
I might show up with my own bottle of rose
ready to ready to rumble on Saturday morning on Fox News.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
You never know what you're gonna get. You know, there
already is a brand called Brose or else. I would say,
we would have to get that. Then going, we'll talk
Miami election, We'll talk Trump, we will talk economy and more.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Oh and Jasmine Crockett coming up m
Welcome. In Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, I
appreciate everyone out there hanging with us, and I would
like to say thank you to our affiliate here in Birmingham, Alabama.
I am down to speak this evening, and I am
looking forward to speaking to hundreds of our listeners a
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little bit later this evening. But I also appreciate the
fact that we have a monster audience here. We're often
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everyone that's making that happen all over the country, but
particularly today for everyone in the Birmingham, Alabama area. All Right, Buck,
we got a lot to dive into. Our good friend
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Jasmine Crockett is officially under sorry, is officially underway in
her campaign for the Senate in Texas.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
There are reports that there was.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
A deluge of fake support, motivated by publican activists who
were praying that she would think it was real and
decide to enter the race.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We will have some fun with that.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Susie Wiles, President Trump's chief of staff, weighing in as
the President hit the road in Pennsylvania and began to
make the case for why you should support his agenda.
In twenty twenty six and why you should vote for Republicans.
We will discuss that we finally had a super powerful,
positive women's athlete, in fact, the number one tennis player
(01:32):
in the world. I might mispronounce her name because I
will confess that I am not a huge women's is
it Ariana Sabolenka.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Did I get that right? Na Sablenka?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Okay, she has absolutely teed off on the idea. She's
the world's number one tennis player. She is absolutely teed
off on the idea that there should be any men
involved in women's athletics at all, And that sounds something
that is very common sense. But I think she probably
has become the most famous women's athlete, certainly the most
(02:04):
famous current women's athlete to have spoken out about this.
She is the world's number one tennis player. We may
talk about that, but I thought we could have some fun.
This has gone viral. It was out for a little while.
One quick thing from the tennis world. I thought so interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Of the top ten female highest paid athletes in the world,
this was just I saw this in the last week
and I thought, of you, mister sports. Yes, I think
eight of them are female tennis players. Which tells you
something about the global popularity of women's tennis. It's actually
a great sport. If you're a high level men's tennis player,
watching the women is actually better for you because you're
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never going to serve like those guys. But you can
learn more from the pace of women's professional tennis anyway.
I also, by the way, not that I'm very good
at tennis at all, I would rather watch a three
set tennis match at most than a five set tennis match,
just because I don't want to watch a four hour
sporting event if I don't have to, So I actually
(03:04):
prefer that they get done in three sets.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But so we will talk a little bit about that.
Buck remember one hundred and three mile an hour serve.
He doesn't need to watch women's tennis players, says he
has such a.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
One to three by the women serve like one twenty.
But we don't have to talk about that right now.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
It's okay, speaking of masculine Tim Walls, this has gone
viral in the last couple of days.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Evidently, Tim Walls was on.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
With uh with Gavin Newsom on that podcast that Gavin
Newsom does, and he decided to weigh in on masculinity,
and he said that the reason why he gets so
much criticism from Republicans is because they are intimidated by
his masculinity.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
This is real.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Now, to be fair, this was from March, but this
is Tim Walls talking about what a man he is.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Listen, this notion of toxicity and masculinity has to be separated,
and I think it's been conflated.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
And I think we we We're gonna have to work
on that.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
A little bit. And I think there's Look, there is
a christ I think so much scare them. I think
I scare them a little bit.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Why they spend so much time on this.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
No, I'm serious, because I can fix a truck.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
They know I'm not bullshit on this. Yeah, I'm not
putting this in people's grill. I don't know if my
identity is not hunting. My identity is not football coaching.
My identity is not you know, a beard in a truck.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
This is again I've said this before, but I think
I think I wrote it in my book. Tim Walls
is a lesbian woman's idea of a man that will
appeal to men, and Democrats are aware that they have
an issue with male voters, but Buck. They lack the
ability to just be normal dudes to such an extent
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that they end up picking guys like Tim Walls, who
they think, we made fun of this for all last year.
But they put him in a car heart and they
put him in boots, and they gave him a gun,
and they had him walk around and they were like, oh, see,
this is a normal guy. And he's not a normal
guy because normal guys don't think that dudes with penises
should be in women's locker rooms and they don't believe that,
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but women are actually men, and they don't understand even
how to talk to men.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, this is exactly the point, though, to be in
good standing with the Democrat Party, you have to. Now
people say, well, what about like there are a lot
of uh, you know, masculine particularly like masculine black men
who are Democrats, and they're yeah, they don't talk about
the trans issue publicly. They also don't actually pay attention
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to what Democrats say today. They're sort of vestigial Democrats
because from the nineties and the early two thousand.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
But not for me.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
My point here is is like, you know, yeah, like
there are a lot of like, you know, NBA players
who I'm sure like came out for Kamala and we're
big you know, Democrat voters.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
They're not big on the trans issue though, right.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I mean, you know, you start to break down the
Democrat coalition very quickly and see that if you're going
to be somebody who is on board with the Democrat
agenda in public, you're going to have to take positions
that normal masculine men find preposterous, find demeaning, finds abhorrence, right,
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a whole range of things. Like a normal man hears, hey,
I think that twelve year old should start to get
hormones because they've come home from school one day and say,
I'm not a boy, I'm actually a girl. A normal
dad who's like a dad dad, here's that and goes,
you're twelve years old. This is insane. What's going on here?
The science behind this is completely science actually shows it's
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a horrible idea. But put that aside. Normal men hear that,
they say this, Normal men hear things like toxic masculinity
and inherently cringe because they go, really, toxic masculinity is
actually just undermining masculinity, because what you're doing is setting
up a paradigm where nothing can be good that is masculine.
The only things that are actually singular to masculinity are
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bad things, right, Because Clay, if I say what's good masculinity?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
And you saw this was the the probably the.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Best known exchange I had on that that Bill maher appearance, which,
by the way, the reason I've mentioned a few times
is because it was fun. I got to go on
a Democrat show in front of a Democrat audience and
basically spike the football before Trump's election on all of
this and everything was true and now they've had to
admit it, all right, So it was like a particular moment.
But I said, so you can't say masculinity is courage
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because then feminists and you know, left wingers go.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
What about courageous women?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
And really it's like, so nothing is allowed to be
specifically masculine that is good. Normal guys see that. They
think that's absurd. You go down this list of stuff.
By the way, masculine men don't think that criminals should
be able to hurt people, women, children, old people.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
And get away with it.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Masculine men hear that and they're like, I want to
go kick someone's ass.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And you know, if you're a democrat. If you're a
democrat's you have to do the whole like well, maybe
the seventieth time you got arrested was when you were
ready for reform.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
This is why Clay, to your point of course, this
is what has happened, and Democrats are just trying to
pretend like this isn't the obvious reality.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I spend a ton of time thinking about this because
it troubles me. It troubles me because if you look
at population collapsing, what is let's take a step back,
what is ultimate success between men and women when it
comes to our interactions and our relationships. It's children, right,
that is the ultimate success story. Now I understand some
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of you have incredibly loving marriages and you never had children.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And I'm not demeaning that.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I'm just saying the ultimate goal of our species is
that we have to have children to propagate the species.
We're failing at that. We are failing as a society
in the most civilized, the most brilliant historical record countries
and their very different, whether it's Japan or Italy and
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now in the United States, certainly in Britain, Germany, like
you just run through the list we're failing at producing
more children than existed before us, and that is not
a good thing. It's actually potentially going to lead to
serious civilizational issues.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I think, Clay, that your man explaining and leaving out
all of the intersex and non binary individuals who have
also chosen not to have children because of climate anxiety.
So really we need to be more inclusive of their
multiple psychoses.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
And by the way, one of the challenges here is
I was reading yesterday, I believe the average age for
marriage is now over thirty. Let me make a psa here.
That's fine for dudes. Women you should be getting married
way younger. And I'm not trying to set anybody off
(09:59):
on a foot panic, but this whole idea that women
should be the same as men. There are a lot
of moron guys out there that suddenly looked around at
forty five or fifty or even fifty five and said, hey,
you know what, I'd really like to have kids that
still had the ability to do it. There's a lot
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of women that get to that age and they say,
but wait, I went to grad school, I did everything,
I was a girl boss, I did everything that society
told me I should do. And I passed up on
marriage because I couldn't find mister Wright, and I was
so focused on my career. I don't think the aspiration
of anyone, male or female should be to desperately claw
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their way to middle management at the expense of having children.
And so I think we've sold a bill of goods here.
And if I had daughters, I'd be talking to them
about this. It's actually good to get married in your
twenties if you're a girl. It's actually good to have
children in your twenties if you are female. Men we
have the luxury of being morons for a long time
(11:06):
because of biology. But this idea of men are gonna
get married at thirty two or thirty three or forty
five or fifty or whatever it is. No, I feel
like no one tells women this. And then you go
and you get you know, get your advanced degree and
you bust your ass in a law firm for five
or six years, or you're a you know, doctor or
an architect or whatever supreme achievement you have, and then
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you have a great deal of difficulty. They call it
after thirty five buck, you know what, They call it
a geriatric pregnancy.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Oh, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I don't think of people as thirty five years old
as being old. Most of you don't either, but biologically
you're starting to get old, it becomes more difficult. So anyway,
I'm fired up about this because it's becoming a bigger
issue every year. Men and women are not getting along.
Men should be masculine, women should be feminine, and we
shouldn't confuse the two, and that's actually a very good thing.
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And the fact that Democrats can't get this right, I
think culturally is why they've lost men. And I think
increasingly women are getting angry at what they see as
what they've been sold versus the reality. It ain't that
good to be a girl boss and be in middle
management when you're fifty eight years old. I'm telling you,
I bet a lot of people end up regretting that choice.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I mean, there are differences with the genders. You know,
at nighttime duty Speed calls out for mama. That's his
favorite word. He wants his mommy. That's his favorite person
in the whole world. That is the person closer than
any other. And that's the way that it's supposed to be.
If something goes crash, bang, whatever in the middle of
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the night, Dad, Dad grabs his clock nineteen and goes
to check it out and see what the heck is
going on downstairs. Right, Gender roles are a good thing
in many, many cases, almost almost all cases. There's a
reason gender roles exist pretty much. I mean, there's a
whole anyway. This this is a big discussion. But this
(13:06):
is funny that that Tim Tim Walls is still You
could tell he's really sore about that thing.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
He thought. His ace up the sleeve was like, got
my carheart, check it on, I'm gonna go. You know,
they tried to call him.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Remember when they introduced him at the Democrat National Convention.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
They didn't call him Governor Walls. They called him Coach Walls.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So they thought they were going to Friday Night Lights,
Eric Taylor him, everybody was gonna come around and this
guy with spirit fingers walking around awkwardly doing leg kicks.
Most dudes were not That's like, most guys were thinking
were not funny. And I actually recept like that was
the most interesting thing that you know, his jazz hands
was a level of creativity that I was not expecting.
(13:45):
Tak to be fair to him, by the way, for
his age, his leg high kicks were actually fairly fairly impressive.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
He'd be a great run at Tim Walls.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Doing the can can is something that you know you
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Podcasts of those groovy tunes. Doing the trump dance to
those groovy Christmas tunes. You know, Perry's like, fuck, what
are you playing? When we're you know, getting ready for
the party tomorrow. We're putting up garlands and decorations. I'm like, oh, honey,
can you hear that? That's Mannheim steamroller baby, That's how
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we do in this household. So we're having a good
time with all of our Christmas music. Clay, on the
other hand, womp woma.
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We're pouring in. But I'm right, there's too much Christmas music.
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I mean, I'm not saying when you're I work to retail,
we'll play some of your talkbacks, some of your anger,
some of the vitriol it's been descending upon me since yesterday.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
You know, if you're in a store, you're gonna hear
the Christmas music, like if you're if you're in al
if you're in a place that's selling gifts, you're gonna
hear the Christmas music, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
So we will get to your.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Do what what is the most what is the spiciest
troll take that you have had on the show of
all time? I mean, flute players are never going to
forgive you, but there's not that many flute players. You're
right about them all, I mean flute player if you
chose to play and oh getting ice cream yourself as
a god. So I still that was harsh. There are
a lot of guys that fell called out by that one.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Well, I mean, I'm right on all these things.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
I understand that some of you feel angered, sometimes attacked
because I'm right and you're wrong. But yeah, like you know,
grown men, Uh, that's actually funny. I was I don't
remember what the kid was, but I have a tendency
of saying nice things to kids because I'm a dad.
I see myself as a dad, like so, uh, you know,
(17:00):
like if you're out and somebody's biking or something like, hey,
you're doing a good job on that bicycle or what like.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I'm actually a pretty nice person. Laura told me the
other day.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
She was like, I think, because you have a beard
and you're getting older, maybe you shouldn't talk to young
kids as much. And I was like that, you don't know.
I thought I was just being super nice. Like We're
just walking down the sidewalk and you know, you know,
there's like a kid and I'm like, oh, that's a
that's a cool sweatshirt, you know, or hey, you're doing
(17:31):
a really good job on that bike. I thought I
was just being super nice. She was like, no, I
think I think it's you're getting like you're like the
old guy with the beard, like you're the And I
was like, you're judging there is an old guy level
where you can you can reach old guy level because
I knew a guy like this in New York and
he was he had like an accent to which always
hous and he would just walk by like attractive women
on the Street, and I'd.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Be like, oh, you look beautiful, Dolly beautiful. It was okay.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I think maybe I'm at the creepy age as opposed
to the super old guy, where you can get away
with anything. I don't know, I'd never even really thought
about it. I want you to be able to get
away with making the best possible picks, no matter who
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Clay Travis with The Clay and Buck Show, wishing you
and your family a very merry Christmas and a happy
New Year. Welcome back in Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you rolling with us through the Wednesday
edition of the program. A couple of things that are
out there. I'm looking right now. We're gonna have Erica
(19:16):
Kirk on the show on Friday. It has been ninety days, Buck,
since there was the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I bring that up because so many of the.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Attacks on Erica Kirk have been super nasty, but I
have to give credit too, of all people.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Trump was in Pennsylvania yesterday and John Fetterman tweeted this
earlier today. Buck, it's gross and dehumanizing to attack a
widow with young children after just witnessing his public assassination.
It shouldn't be controversial to put our political views aside
(19:58):
and extend the grace for a deep traumatized family to grieve.
He's referring to this audio, and some of you say, Okay, Clay,
you're giving And I know we talk about this quite
a lot. Buck, You're giving attention to people who don't
deserve it. And I struggle with that sometimes, but this
is not a supremely minority view. There are a lot
(20:22):
of people out there in this holiday season that are
attacking the Kirk family, like Jennifer Welch, super left wing podcaster.
Listen to what she said. That is what John Fetterman
credit to him, is responding to.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
But she's abundantly aware of the when you talk about
women and poverty, that black and brown women stick off
the charts more so than white women. This is an
intentional attack on poor women. And this is a dehumanization,
all done in the name of her Lord and savior,
(20:58):
Jesus Christ, which is the exact opposite of what the
central character of the faith of Christianity preached against. So
this is intentional weaponization of her gender and her faith.
And this she is a grifter. And just look at
the costume changes. Look at the costume change, just look
at the affect and how she does that. It's while
(21:21):
this woman should be kicked to the curb. She is
an absolute grifter, just like Donald Trump and just like
her unrepentant, racist, homophobic husband was.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
So I have a few things, a few thoughts on
this woman who is getting a lot of attention these days.
She is modern Democrat Party leftism, like built in a laboratory,
and she is essentially the the ultimate distillation. Like if
(21:54):
you were to come together and really take the the
the ego, the super ego. So if you were to
look at all of the aspects of the Democrat Party
that have risen to the top of their hierarchy and
the kind of people who are calling the shots of
the Democrat Party, I just want to this absolutely nasty, ignorant,
(22:18):
heinous woman is really the perfect Democrat. She's actually the distillation.
She is purity. She is the ultimate Democrat female in
twenty twenty five going into twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
So I just think everybody should take take stock.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Of that from and her popularity, very rapid popularity, speaks
to speak to that that reality that she is a
very you know, internally a deeply sad and really unscrupulous
and nasty and narcissistic human being.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So I think all that is really well said. I
don't think she stands alone. I think it's important to
recognize that she is becoming popular for what she's saying.
I do think also when you call Erica Kirk a
grifter who should be kicked to the curb, and then
obviously she attacked Charlie. If and I hope God forbid
(23:16):
ohe it never happens. If someone killed me for something
that I was advocating for in public, at a public
event like this, I would hope that my wife would
be an eloquent voice for the arguments that I was
making after I was gone. Erica Kirk, to me, is
(23:42):
trying to It's the opposite of being a grifter. She's
trying to ensure that her husband did not die in
vain and that the things that he believed in and
that he stood for are not going to pass with him.
So if anything, and I mean this in a very
(24:03):
sincere way, she is being selfless. It's the opposite of grifting.
To me, advocating on behalf of your spouse who can
no longer advocate for himself is one of the great
aspects of marriage that we should all hope that our
lives would embody. And if you're, whether you're a husband
or a wife, speaking for someone who has lost their
(24:24):
life in a violent way and standing up for them,
it's not just that she's wrong and nasty buck, It's
that even the logic of her argument is refuted. To me,
what Erica Kirk is doing is a form of selfless
service for her husband's values that otherwise no one else
can articulate as well as her. Does that make sense?
(24:45):
So it's actually the exact opposite. Even if you want
to give this crazy left wing woman the benefit of
accepting her argument, she's actually saying not only awful things,
but even the logic behind her argument, it's the opposite
what she's saying.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yes, I think that's I think that's all true, and
that's why again, the fact that this person has risen
so much in popularity. I mean, I will tell you
some of the some of the the podcast and and
digital creators that I'm seeing that are have grown to
the absolute top of the charts. I think the apocalypse
(25:24):
is not I don't know what to tell you. It's
a little scary, and I won't get in. I'm not
even thinking about anybody on the right specifically right now.
I'm thinking about some of the ones on the left,
and and one or two that are sort of non political.
But I'm like, that's the dumbest that that woman. Uh well,
now I'm kind of giving away something.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Is I'll just say no, I'll take I'll take the no.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
No, no, I'm you're not thinking of what I'm thinking of. Okay,
you're not thinking of what I'm thinking of. I'm thinking
of somebody who like tells women about how their brain
should function and stuff. I'm like, she was on the
Bill maher show. I don't even think this woman has
sold millions of books. She knows nothing. She knows nothing.
I do not understand. She's a huge, huge podcast. Oh
(26:06):
this is yeah, I think I do know what is
Is she the let them chick yes? Or is that
a different person She's the let them chick yes? Yeah,
I've I've I've had a few dealings with her before
she had this whole thing.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
She actually tried to do radio for a while. I
don't know what to say.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Like the population, I generally celebrate people's popular like I've
always seen here, oh man, like what Rogan built was
incredible and and you know, we're always very grateful for
Rush Limbaugh shoulder, like building the house of talk radio
and shouldering that responsibility in burden for thirty years. And
I think what people do that's greatly successful. But I
(26:45):
want to be able to celebrate it as something that's worthwhile,
even if it's not my thing. You know, people like
some of the true crime podcasts. It's not my cup
of tea. I don't have time for that stuff whatever,
But I can say they're really well done, they're really engrossing.
I've listened to a little bit of them here and there, whatever,
But some of the stuff that is getting really like
this this left wing woman, I can't remember her name,
but when we're talking about and this whole like let
(27:06):
them theory, this is like, this is brain damage, this
is idiocy. I don't know what else to say. I
don't know what people don't understand. I don't understand, like
I don't understand the idea. And again you went to
Blue Sky right after it happened. But I think it's
important to stare at it and recognize that not only
does it exist, it's not some crazy, outlandish not responded
(27:31):
to in a positive way. Take people on the left
that clip we played of the crazy Jennifer Welch chick
tons of mostly women, because I don't think any men
listen to that. Trying to think of a word I
can use without gindness in trouble, I don't think that
many men listen to that show, right, There are a
(27:51):
ton of left wing women that heard everything she said
about Erica Kirk and they were nodding along and they
were saying preach and they just something else.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I'll say that, friends that you're reminding me of this too.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
You know you mentioned like what if something terrible and nothing,
you're gonna be fine, But like theoretically, or rather if
we're talking about this, something terrible happened to you. There
are a bunch of us who would absolutely obviously me,
we do a show together three hours a day, we're
co hosts on this show, would go to the mat
and then some against anybody who would attack Laura, attack
(28:26):
your legacy. Yeah, and I'm just gonna say it. There
are some people who are much closer than I. I
wasn't close to Charlie. We were friendly, you know, I
knew him a bit, you know, we really I kne
him more like ten years ago when he first got started.
But Charlie and I always got a long fine, and
you know, and I respected a lot of what he
had built.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
But I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
There are people that are really close to Charlie who
are letting crazy stuff be said and be said about
his wife and be said, and they are silent on
this issue, and people can say, well, why aren't you
more involved one because, like I said, I didn't actually
know I've never met.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Erica, so I didn't know Charlie that well.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
So it's and but I'm just saying, you know, you said,
what if something happened to me, I don't know how
I'd be able to sleep at night if people were
saying crazy stuff about Laura after somebody had taken you
out of an assassination.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
And I'm just sitting there quietly after being your know,
co host with you for you know.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
But I think that's why it's that the attack is
so unfair to me because to me, her being a
voice as she is in public for Charlie is a
form of selflessness. To me, it is what you would
hope that your significant other would be trying to do
or able to do. And certainly it's a credit to
(29:40):
Charlie that his wife is an accomplished Yeah, her attacking
and she's the woman who's attacking her is a psycho.
I mean, that's what I'm saying. But there are people
who should be standing up to the psycho and standing
up to some of the craziness out there on Charlie's
behalf and like I said, you might well buck what
about you, guys, I'm not Clay and I were not
you know, we weren't going to turning points in and we
(30:00):
were not super close to Charlie.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Again, friends, we liked him, respect what he did. But
there are people who were like Charlie's squad, Yeah, and
they're silent on this stuff. And I don't want to
call anybody up by name because it's not about that.
But I just hope that maybe someone will hear this
and be like, come on, man, look.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
What do you think this is?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Your buddy got taken out and there's lunacy all over
the place, and this woman is going after Charlie's widow.
And you're not gonna You're not gonna take that up.
You're not gonna say anything. John Fetterman spoke out. I'm
sure Fetterman didn't know Charlie Kirk. I give him, got
a copy of your book Balls, because Federman's got some.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I mean, good for him, but I mean, when is
the standard when you're going after widows?
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
And again I think that she is doing an amazing
job speaking out because they tried to keep Charlie from
speaking out, and the idea that you would attack her
is even even by the standards of accepting that there
is going to be awfulness out there, her being attacked
to the degree that she is is it really has
(31:05):
staggered me and the number of people out there we
know who celebrated Charlie Kirk's death and now also are
calling his widow.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
A grifter who should be kicked to the curb. How
dare she?
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I just it is a sign of a level of
awfulness that exists on the left that frankly, I do
not believe exists on the right.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I don't. I don't think any of you out there if.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Bucks he's got a little crazy lately, I'm a little
sad about what's going on the right, But that's a conversation.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I yeah, Well, there's a lot of craziness out there
in general. But if an innocent person gets assassinated and
then his wife is trying to talk about the things
that he cared about, even if I disagreed with all
the politics, I wouldn't be going at I can't imagine
that there would be a similar vein of awfulness directed
at the left wing version of Erica Kirk to the
(32:02):
extent that she could exist. I really don't think it would.
Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe it would be just as toxic.
I would like to think that that is not true.
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I'll talk to you about we had an election that
actually happened here and not a great outcome. Are you
able to vote in the Miami mayor's race or is
it a small enough area that you're not in it.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I live in Miami Beach. I actually am not a
Miami City resident. It's a different city. I know that's
for a lot of the tourists. It feels like it's
all one place, but it's a little bit of a
Dallas Fort Worth situation, like these are different cities. So
I live in Miami Beach. Our mayor the mayor that
I voted for one reelection, so I was happy about that.
But I'll give you the update here and they're trying
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to push uh, They're trying to push this as oh
the first depth. Well, I'll get into it. But Miami
unfortunately had a loss last night toward socialism, which is
which is unfortunate, and I'll give you the updates on
that one. Also, we have uh, here we go ff
podcast listener Ron from Toledo wants to weigh in on something.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Here we go go ahead, Ron.
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Somebody that has a glock nineteen needs to get some
more testosterone get himself in nineteen eleven.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Good listening to you.
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I'm just gonna tell you, man DJ Shipley of Seal
Team six, who I've trained with, he has a Glock
nineteen as his bedside gun.
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So, like, I don't know what, I don't want to say.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
I'm sophisticated enough knowledge of guns to even know the
gun trash talk that that guy's trying to bring.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Ron, Ron from from Toledo, Ohio. I'm glad that you
have a nineteen eleven. I hope that it goes well
with your walker because it's an old man gun.
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As far as Christmas gifts, Christmas is for kids with
the gifts, especially the little kids and the best gifts
that adults can give each other is not having to
give a gift. Take care.
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Speaker 1 (35:33):
Except to tell my wife all the time, living with
me every day is a gift. Why would I need
to give you an additional one?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
We might need a Laura talkback for the Christmas season
on just how living with Clay every day is a gift.
So maybe she'll send that in uh the IP email
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you're doing great.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Jokes? Are you gonna be Are you gonna do Caylee's
show this weekend?
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Are they gonna pull the pull the wool over my
eyes again or pull the rug out from under me?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Maybe? I think I'm doing the show on Saturday morning.
I will be appearing.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I will be responding to the out blandish and outrageous
attacks upon my character that have been levied on Fox
News and Kaylee Mcananey better just buckle up. I know
she's a big deal, former White House Press secretary, got
her own show on Fox News. Mom, she's doing really well,
Harvard lograt. I think all these things very Marry an
MLB player too. Carry's got to run run on the
(36:35):
lot of impressive little check marks there. But I just
am telling her she better buckle up, because you know,
I might show up with my own bottle of rose
ready to ready to rumble on Saturday morning on Fox News.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
You never know what you're gonna get. You know, there
already is a brand called Brose or else. I would say,
we would have to get that. Then going, we'll talk
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