December 11, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show zeroes in on immigration policy, border security, and the cultural and economic consequences of mass migration under President Donald Trump’s administration. Buck Sexton leads a candid discussion on the breaking news that a federal judge has ordered the release of Ilmar Abrego Garcia, an alleged MS-13 gang member previously detained by ICE. This controversial ruling sparks debate about the legal wrangling surrounding deportations, the Supreme Court’s involvement, and the Trump administration’s efforts to treat MS-13 as a foreign terrorist organization.
Buck frames the immigration crisis as a systemic failure spanning decades, criticizing both Democrats and establishment Republicans for enabling what he calls a “third-world invasion.” He cites expert commentary from Steven Miller, who argues that unchecked immigration impacts every major policy issue—from education and healthcare to crime and the federal deficit. Miller’s analysis underscores how subtracting illegal immigration from these metrics would dramatically improve outcomes, revealing the hidden costs of current policies.
The conversation expands to Trump’s stance on merit-based immigration, including his blunt remarks about prioritizing immigrants from high-functioning countries like Norway and Denmark over those from unstable regions plagued by crime and terrorism. Buck explores the cultural implications of mass migration, questioning whether America can maintain its identity amid tens of millions of illegal immigrants—estimated at 20 to 30 million today. He warns that Democrats’ push for amnesty and open borders could permanently alter the nation’s political and social fabric.
Listeners hear Buck dismantle common pro-immigration narratives, challenging the notion that assimilation is automatic. He points to examples in Europe, where large migrant populations have resisted integration, fueling crime and cultural clashes. Buck emphasizes that shared language, law, and culture are essential for national unity, advocating for stronger enforcement and a slowdown in immigration to preserve American values.
The hour also touches on DHS Secretary Noem’s testimony on Capitol Hill, where she defends Trump’s immigration policies against Democratic attacks. Buck critiques media coverage, particularly CNN’s framing of the issue, and calls for honesty about historical immigration patterns and their consequences. He argues that America’s foreign-born population has reached unsustainable levels, making assimilation and economic stability increasingly difficult.
Throughout Hour 2, Buck urges Republicans to stay focused on immigration as a defining issue for the midterms, alongside affordability and economic messaging. He closes with reflections on cultural cohesion, the importance of English as a national language, and the need for policies that prioritize American interests over globalist agendas.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, second hour, Clay and Buck. Let's look at immigration,
shall we. Let's jump into the biggest immigration story today.
A federal judge has ordered ordered President Trump well the
Department of Justice to release Kilmar Abrago Garcia from ICE
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Immigration and Customs Enforcement from ICE custody. This is Judge
Paula Zennis x I NI S I guess yeah, so
he is supposed to be released immediately. Tea monitor this
one for me. Let me know if in fact he
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does get released immediate. I have a feeling the administration
it's gonna say. I'm not sure that's how this is
gonna go. We'll see. But this has been quite a
story and the Democrats are going to continue to push
very hard on this. Let's just take a little trip
down memory lane, shall we. This guy Abrego Garcia, he
(01:07):
is the alleged MS thirteen gang member who had an
order of deportation against him at some point, wasn't deported,
fighting his deportation, all this stuff, and on March fifteenth
of this year, he was sent from the US to
El Salvador, where he was detained in the Seacott the
(01:31):
Center for Terrorism Confinement, and the Supreme Court weighed in
on this one, and I believe it was nine to
ohero and they said, look, you guys, you can't just
remove this guy.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
To L.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Salvador. And this removal to L. Salvador was illegal. So
the US then brought him back in. The Trump administration
brought him back in. They there's now all this legal
wrangling about is he a member of MS thirteen? Is
he not? Abrego Garcia says he is not a member
of MS thirteen. Now that matters because that gang has
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been designated a foreign terrorist organization. So from a legal perspective,
the Trump administration seeks to treat or now does treat
it in some ways MS thirteen like al Qaeda, and
this guy is now supposed to be released. There was
one point at which at which the Trump administration was
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trying to remove him to Liberia, Uganda, Ghana or as
what tiny I gotta tell you. We're getting really deep
into geography knowledge here with that one. That's one of
these really tiny countries in Africa. There's some very very
small countries in Africa that are not well known. And yeah,
(02:57):
he was not removed to those countries, but that was
what was happening. Here's what's that issue with all of this?
There has been, there's gonna be the continued legal fighting
over this, and is there a detainee order to Our
whole immigration system has been turned into a massive scam
and a Third World invasion of this country as a
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result of the misleading of the American people, the taking
advantage of the American people, and has been largely bipartisan.
Democrats have been complete liars and frauds on this, top
to bottom. One hundred percent of Democrats are terrible on immigration, and.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Half of Republicans, I would say in the twenty first century,
roughly half of Republicans are pretty terrible on immigration.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I think that would be fair me. You know, in
recent years the numbers changed a lot because of Trump,
but if you were to take this all the way
back to say the year two thousand, you take this
back to the Bush era, Republicans have been bad too.
So this has been a huge, huge issue and a
little bit like where we are with the debt. And
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I'm not somebody who traffics in despair on this program.
Quite the opposite. Right, we talk about the problems, we
also talk about the solutions. We look at what's gone wrong,
we never forget what's going right. But the immigration situation
is a bit like our four are soon to be
forty trillion dollars of debt. It is massive. It is
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affecting everything, and I don't know if we're going to
be able to fix it. This is just the truth.
We're going to try. I certainly am advocating for it.
But you hear people like Stephen Miller, who knows this
issue and is of sound mind on this issue at
the absolute peak. I mean, he's like at the top
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of his game on immigration. This has cut sixteen. He's
pointing out that this issue of immigration, and more specifically
legal it is messing up everything in this country. You
cannot bring tens of millions. We don't know the number.
I would guess, see whatever I say, you're gonna say, buck,
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how could you? It's more, it's less. Most of you
would say. I think there are twenty to thirty million
illegals in the country right now. Twenty to thirty million,
And I don't think that's even I think that's like
definitely twenty twenty five, and maybe it's thirty thirty five.
It's a lot, it's a lot. Tens of millions for sure.
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The number they were telling us it's eleven million. Please.
They let ten million in under Biden, and they're planning
to never leave. So we know we're in the twenties.
I think we're in the thirties. Some of you are
gonna say, book we're in the forties. Maybe, but it's
definitely twenties, thirties millions that we're talking about here. And
this is Stephen Miller on what a big issue it is.
Play sixteen.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
We mask the impact of immigration every public alls the
issue we discuss. We talk about test scores. If you
subtract immigration out of test scores, all of a sudden,
our test scores skyrocket. If you subtract immigration out of healthcare,
all of a sudden, we don't have near the science
of the healthcare challenges our country fasis. If you subtract
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immigration out of public safety, all of a sudden, we
don't have by the crime in so many of our cities.
Issue after issue, we talk about these things that just
they just happened to us. The schools just suddenly fail,
by the crime just suddenly explodes, the deficit just suddenly skyrockets.
These are a result of social policy choices that we
made through immigration.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It's all true. It's all true now the way that
this issue has been in and this is why the
Abrago Garcia thing is interfascinating Democrats acluvs types, Oh my gosh,
anything to keep a Brao Garcia and this this guy's
in illegal, it's been been accused of crimes. He's in illegal.
(06:59):
He should go. Whatever it is they wanted, whatever is
they have to do, they will do the left the
Democrats will do to keep illegals in this country. They
want to keep them all. If they could keep them all,
they would keep them all. Occasionally and they'll say what
about Obama and all this, Yeah, in order to fool
just enough people to stay in power, Democrats will occasionally
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go through a period of oh, you know, you're right,
this is a problem. Oh maybe we should And what
Obama did was change the definition of a deportation such
that people who were caught and turned away immediately the
border they counted as a deportation. So they were juicing
the numbers there. But they were also doing that so
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they could create the political momentum with the Gang of
Eight bill, with the Gang the Senate Gang of Eight.
They were trying to create the political momentum for a
mass amnesty, which is and by the way, that's game over.
Do you know that the Ray ammessy The worst thing
that Reagan did when he was president was the amnesty
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they did under Eisenhower, the deportation operation there and I
think it was over a million. It was like one
point q one point three million in one year deported
and that was in nineteen fifty something. So we've been
here before and the country at at some points has said,
(08:25):
you know what, this is crazy. You gotta go, you
gotta go. Also, note people act like it's so oh,
you've been in America for a year or three years
or whatever it may be. The notion of going back
to the country you lived in your whole life until
you snuck into this country. It's so horrible, it's so unthinkable.
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What does that mean? Well, actually, it's interesting. Trump is
just saying stuff out loud that you're you're not supposed
to say, you're not allowed to say, but we say
it now. There are countries that people want to live in,
countries that are crappy. This is true. There are cultures
that produce countries where people live in security prosperity, able
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to achieve some degree of of you know, of of
relative happiness, and and where countries where that's just not
not going on at all, where people live a far
more Hobbesian you know, life is British, nasty and short
Hobbesian existence. And Somalia is a very very high on
that list of what Hobbes would say. That's a rough place.
(09:35):
Here is Trump saying, you know, we should be bringing
in more people from countries that produce extremely law abiding,
extremely high productivity, aligned with our values, immigrants, that's what
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we should be doing. This is cut fifteen. This is
what Trump says.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
We had a meeting and I say, why is it
we only take people from whole countries? Right?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Why can't we have some people from Norway?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Sweeten?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Just a few? Let us have a few from from Denmark.
Do you mind sending us with your people, Send us
some nice people, do you mind? But we always take
people from Semia, places that are a disaster, right, filthy, dirty, discussing.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Ridden with crime.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
The only thing they're good at is going after ships.
You can tell Trump not a fan of Somalia. It's
definitely seeing black Hawk down a few times. Not a
fan of Somolia, and a lot of Somalis aren't either.
You know, we talk about the Somali population here in Minneapolis.
There's a tremendous amount of displacement of Somalis into Kenya,
which is right next door, which is still a country
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with a lot of tremendous amount of crime, unfortunately, a
lot of problems, but the functional country. Uh. Notice though
that it's you're not supposed to say we want people
from happy, good countries. And you say, well, hold on,
I thought our immigration system we have been told all
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this time that we're.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Taking the next founder of Google, and we're this is
you know, immigration doing the jobs Americans won't do, and
we're a nation of immigrants.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
You hear all this propaganda, all this stuff all the time.
It's supposed the system is supposed to benefit the people.
Here is the system. Is our immigration system in the
twenty first century, benefiting those who are already here on
a aggregate you know, net net on an aggregate basis,
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or have we turned into a immigration from third world
countries welfare ward that we constantly are lied to and
because most of the very poor countries in the world,
this starts to get into other conversations about immigration and
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about the nation state. Most of the very poor countries
in the world are non white countries. And so when
you start to look at countries that you don't necessarily
want to take a lot of immigrants from because they're
going to have Again, this is just objective stuff. It's
not about not liking the way someone looks. It's not
about judging someone because of their skin color. It's we're
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making policies to benefit Americans. If you're taking people from
countries with high levels of crime and or terrorism, low
level of education, do not speak English and have no
cultural tie or affinity to America other than we're really
rich here, and they get to be safe and get
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free stuff. And then, of course, as soon as possible,
start voting in the directions that will undermine all of that, right,
start voting for socialism, start voting for Islamism, start voting
for whatever. We are told that that's not what's happening,
but that has been happening, and people are allowed to
notice that and be upset about it, and the American
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people are allowed to say this baiten switch cannot happen anymore.
Where you say it is to our benefit. But really
it is part of some global dei crusade of we
need to have the most non white immigration possible. Look,
there are a lot, There are plenty of countries that
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are non white countries that are wonderful places.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
People are doing.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Great, you know. I KNOWE ever always is attacking Japan,
for example, for its lack of you know, replacement. They've
got to have more kids. That's true. But it's an
amazing Taiwan, which I just came back from. It is
an amazing country, phenomenal in so many ways, wonderful people,
incredibly smart, incredibly civilized. And you know, there are many,
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many others. There are a lot of great countries all
around the world. Our immigration system is absolutely not set
up to prioritize those people. We say the reality of
immigration is kind of the way if you had, like,
you know, a Gavin Newsome voting California, you know, wine
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swilling lib you know, with the Chardonnay glass, and oh,
let's take as many people from war torn filling the
blank as possible, because that'll make me feel I'm gonna
live in Beverly Hills, but it'll make me feel good
about myself to say that we're gonna take as many
people from what do they call it in Team America
(14:41):
Dirka Drkistan, right to take as many people from whatever
country is some gee hottest hellhole of the moment or
whatever going through some famine or civil war. We're supposed
to have a very small percentage of asylum seekers. Look
what happened. These millions and millions of people came in.
They're all say they're here for asylum. They're not here
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for asylum, They're here for the spoil system. Can we
get enough of them to actually go back to their
home countries that America can be saved? This is the question.
This is where we are, and it certainly where the
Trump administration is on this. But I'm is it too late?
We'll see what do you think happens? If a Democrat
wins the next election, they're gonna open the floodgates again.
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Of course, of course they are. If Trump can't get
this done with the House in the Senate, who's gonna
reverse the flood. We need to talk about this. We
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You kind of feel like you're an afterthought if your
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to Clay and Buck, we are talking immigration and how
this is such a critical issue, So go with immigration,
So go with the nation. I think ken Trump and
his team fix it. You had DHS Secretary of Nome
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on the Hill today getting a whole lot of back
and forth with Democrats who are trying to get their soundbites,
and she is trying to make the case, make the
case that well, for one, Democrats are very dishonest on
this issue. Of course that's true, and that the Trump
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administration is acting within the law, and that there's going
to be a lot more of what we have already seen.
I certainly hope that's the case. In the meantime, over
on that CNN show, I think it's CNN tonight, right,
is that the one or they changed them all the time.
It doesn't really it's that the one with Abby Phillip
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whatever they call it. She was talking about this. She
was talking about the immigration issue that you and I
are discussing here. And I just want to point out
whenever you start to hear a liberal talk about this
country and they're the worst on guns, this is just
(20:14):
kind of funny for those of you, which is pretty
much not all of you, but a vast, vast majority
of you who are gun people. Democrats will speak about
guns and it's like their first day of learning Mandarin Chinese,
like they just know nothing and they don't care. They
know nothing. They'll talk about chainsaw, bayonets and machine gun, flamethrower,
(20:35):
you know, laser pods, and they just have no idea.
They just know they want to ban them, they want
to take them from you. Everything goes. When they talk
about the history of immigration, they also have no idea.
They don't know what they're talking about, and they leave
out very key things, things that we need to know
today and we need to have people familiar with in
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order to have reasonable mitigration policy going forward. And I
think we've reached a point in America where the foreign
born population is too high, meaning that we need to
slow things down. It's not a knock on anybody who's
an immigrant legally, not a knock on anybody's background who's
an immigrant, or anyone's religion or skin color who's an immigrant.
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It's just okay. The history of America and its immigration
policies has been we take in a bunch of people
and then we say, okay, we need to let everyone
do the America thing for a while here, and then
all right, we taking in a bunch of people, and
then we say, hold on a second, it's time to
let everybody get to know each other, americanize the new arrivals.
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And this is now something you can talk about. You
couldn't even say this stuff really ten fifteen years ago
without oh my gosh, how could you. Well, look, what's
happening in Europe. You have large constituencies, including of asylum
seekers or refugee in European countries who make it very explicit.
They hate the country. That I mean when I say
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hate it. They love the welfare, they love that they're
now safe and fed and warm and housed and all
of that courtesy of the host country. But they despise
the beliefs and the people and the culture and everything else.
You have this in the UK, you have this in Sweden,
you have this in the Netherlands. You have this in Belgium,
you have this in France, you have this in Spain.
You know you have Germany. You have this in these countries.
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Now large populations of new arrivals who are not saying, hey,
we're gonna we're gonna be there for you. We're going
to do the best stuff we had, and we're so grateful.
We're so grateful. Do you get the sense that the
illegals that have come into America, who go to these protests,
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for example, and create all this this spectacle in places
like Los Angeles, Remember we saw that Trump called it
the National Guard, do they ever speak of the gratitude
they have for this country. No, they think they just
they think that it's owed to them. I came here
and I'm just as American as you, but you're not.
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You're not lawfully in this country. You violated the Compact.
The law of the United States is something that binds
all Americans, and you, the illegal, have violated that. You
are not as American as everybody else. Sorry, but you
go on place like CNN and they will say things
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that are just counterfactual about the history of immigration and
how these processes have all worked. And I've even gotten
to the point now where I like to say to people,
you know, pick a country, Pick a country like Sweden.
It's a good example for a bunch of reasons. I
think Sweden has ten million people, you know, ten million people,
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and they've let in something like a million migrants in
the last decade or two from the Middle East, from
Muslim countries, and they've got some problems, some challenges by
the the data on particularly violent crimes of sex sexual
crimes show that the new arrivals, unfortunately in these countries
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from the Muslim world, are wildly disproportionately represented in the
ranks of the offenders, just a fact, so much so
that countries like Sweden try to hide it as a
matter of state policy. We have that too, I might add,
in this country you have a lot of in the
(24:37):
stats about who's committing crimes. You'll have illegals who look
like they're in MS thirteen, but they'll be counted in
prison data as white. So wait, so now we're dealing
with the white Hispanic thing again. Remember that with George Zimmerman,
which they only could pull off. They thought the media
on the Trayvon Martin situation because his last name was Zimmerman.
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If his name was, you know, with George to Minguez,
might have been a little harder to say he's a
white guy. But that's that's what they tried for a
while there. The white Hispanic I'd never I had truly never.
I'm trying to think in the media. Have had I
ever heard that term? I don't think I'd ever heard
that term in a media report, at least before the
George Zimmerman Trayvon Martin trial, which Obama weighed in on.
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If you recall and said, if he had a son,
he would have looked like Trayvon because Obama was really
interested in harmony and racial healing in this country. Sure,
how did that all go for us? Regardless? I am
now on a mission to try to do all I
can to educate people who were willing to listen about
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what really happened at various times in this country's history
when it comes to immigration. Oh sorry, Sweden, I have
to finish my Sweden a Sweden model. I'm weaving. I'm weaving,
as Trump says, right, he says, I'm weaving and weaving
a story, weaving a tale. Okay, sweeteness, ten million people.
Would it still be Sweden if they brought in five
million Syrians, Iraqis and Somalis? Just take that one. Would
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it still be Sweden? Technically? Yes? Maybe you would. You
would call it that? Is it the same country? Is
it the same country? Oh? So the people will admit
when you go through this that at some point, if
you change the people in a country enough, it is
a different country. That's obvious. And if that, and if
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the five million of the ten million coming from very
different cultures, very different backgrounds, doesn't okay, what if we
brought in ten million, What if you're brought in ten
what if all of a sudden You'll also notice that
it is only countries, according to the Left and according
to Democrats, that are predominantly or overwhelmingly white Caucasian, that
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are supposed to just say this is a process, that
this is as natural as it can be. We want
as many people from the third world as possible. The
Japanese aren't doing that, quite the opposite. In fact, they
Japan is for Japanese. China is not doing that, second
biggest country in the world, India is not doing that,
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the biggest country in the world. They're not saying, give
me everyone from everywhere else. But why is it that America,
Canada and Western European countries are supposed to do that
without protest, no matter the consequences. Well we start to
see what's what the awakening in this country has been
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all about. And I would also again just work through
this piece by piece. If all countries are the same
in terms of where we should be privileging those who
come here legally, why even have a system that pretends
to be sorting and making decisions. It's all the same,
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of course, it's not all the same. Canada had a
points system, an explicit point system for how much money
you have, your education, and they still have all kinds
of problems up there now with assimilation and with the
unity of the Canadian people, and still have a lot
of problems. But they were just like, we're going to
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take the people that are going to do the best
for us, and that was I think, well, I'll let
the Canadian speak on that one. But it's been a
big change in perception about that. So why even have
a system that allows some in but not others If
it's all the same. Clearly some countries are going to
send and this is not This is again about policy.
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Are there amazing? Are there incredible? Yeah? Ion Hersy Ali
is Somali. She's brilliant, She's brave, she's incredible, incredible woman.
Read her book Infidel whatever it was twenty something years ago.
She is gutsy, she is she's an amazing woman, she's Somalie.
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It's not about holding anything against any individual. And we
talk about immigration, it's about we gotta make we got
to draw the line somewhere. We have to have some
what's generally true policies, And it is generally true that
taking people from I've talked about Taiwana fair a bit
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because I was just there from Taiwan is going to
result in more people who are highly productive, highly law
abiding than taking people who have have come here from
pick a country from Yemen. Yemen's been in rough shape
(29:42):
for a long time now, very poor country, war torn country, ideologically,
a lot of jihadism. Okay, So and then this goes
back even to what the's so called Muslim bent. We
have to start to look at this, Okay, I wanted
to do. CNN. Here's CNN's Abby Phillip taking shots at
Stephen Miller over his role in Trump administration immigration policy,
(30:06):
play seventeen.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
Why are you assuming that assimilation is not happening? Yeah,
because you know, when Stephen Miller's ancestors came here in
the early nineteen hundreds, they didn't speak a lick of English. Okay,
they were working factory jobs there is a generational shift
that happens where sometimes the first generation they don't speak English,
but they have children and those people are Americans and
(30:30):
they become people who are no different from you or
you or you or you. Assimilation actually is happening. It
does happen.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
So that's not the policy that we have been told
is in effect, which is just take anybody. Eventually they'll
learn English, and their kids will be born here and
they'll be as American as everybody else. And I also note,
in the context of a place like Europe, we've seen
it's not always true, not always true they even learn
a language. And I'm gonna tell you this, I'm here
(31:01):
in South Florida. There are I did not really come
across as very much in New York City in my
thirty something years living in New York. It is more
common here. There are people here who speak no English,
who live here, who are here forever. They speak no English.
They are immigrants to this country. They do not speak
any English. That's a problem. Everybody who's here should be
(31:24):
able to speak English. English to Trump signed, you know,
English is the National Language Executive Order. I would like
to see actually more action on this with Congress. You
have to have shared law, shared language, shared culture, shared history,
because a nation at some level is a people who
come together around ideas and those shared things that I
(31:47):
just laid out, But it is a people, meaning that
it's a place in time and a people in that place.
And you can't just say all of you go over
here to some other place and we're going to replace
all of you at once, and it's the same country.
That's just not true. And so we've had to look
at this at a very baseline level. What is going
(32:08):
on in America today? How rapidly is the are the
American people not as American in the sense that you've
got tens of millions of illegals who are here, and
you've got people who are arriving here and in the
case of what we see in Minneapolis, immediately becoming dependent
(32:29):
on the state. Immediately they want their benefits, and that's
on all of us to pay those bills. The Americans
who are already here, we're allowed to say, I don't
want to be I don't want the boot of the
state on my neck making sure that I give forty
percent of my income to the federal government so that
I can pay for foreigners who have arrived here, and
(32:51):
you can say, oh, it's only a small part of
the budget. Okay, well then get rid of it that
it shouldn't be happening at all. Finally we can talk
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you have a great holiday too. Merry Christmas. I don't
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(36:43):
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Okay, second hour, Clay and Buck. Let's look at immigration,
shall we. Let's jump into the biggest immigration story today.
A federal judge has ordered ordered President Trump well the
Department of Justice to release Kilmar Abrago Garcia from ICE
(00:22):
Immigration and Customs Enforcement from ICE custody. This is Judge
Paula Zennis x I NI S I guess yeah, so
he is supposed to be released immediately. Tea monitor this
one for me. Let me know if in fact he
(00:43):
does get released immediate. I have a feeling the administration
it's gonna say. I'm not sure that's how this is
gonna go. We'll see. But this has been quite a
story and the Democrats are going to continue to push
very hard on this. Let's just take a little trip
down memory lane, shall we. This guy Abrego Garcia, he
(01:07):
is the alleged MS thirteen gang member who had an
order of deportation against him at some point, wasn't deported,
fighting his deportation, all this stuff, and on March fifteenth
of this year, he was sent from the US to
El Salvador, where he was detained in the Seacott the
(01:31):
Center for Terrorism Confinement, and the Supreme Court weighed in
on this one, and I believe it was nine to
ohero and they said, look, you guys, you can't just
remove this guy.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
To L.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Salvador. And this removal to L. Salvador was illegal. So
the US then brought him back in. The Trump administration
brought him back in. They there's now all this legal
wrangling about is he a member of MS thirteen? Is
he not? Abrego Garcia says he is not a member
of MS thirteen. Now that matters because that gang has
(02:12):
been designated a foreign terrorist organization. So from a legal perspective,
the Trump administration seeks to treat or now does treat
it in some ways MS thirteen like al Qaeda, and
this guy is now supposed to be released. There was
one point at which at which the Trump administration was
(02:34):
trying to remove him to Liberia, Uganda, Ghana or as
what tiny I gotta tell you. We're getting really deep
into geography knowledge here with that one. That's one of
these really tiny countries in Africa. There's some very very
small countries in Africa that are not well known. And yeah,
(02:57):
he was not removed to those countries, but that was
what was happening. Here's what's that issue with all of this?
There has been, there's gonna be the continued legal fighting
over this, and is there a detainee order to Our
whole immigration system has been turned into a massive scam
and a Third World invasion of this country as a
(03:17):
result of the misleading of the American people, the taking
advantage of the American people, and has been largely bipartisan.
Democrats have been complete liars and frauds on this, top
to bottom. One hundred percent of Democrats are terrible on immigration, and.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Half of Republicans, I would say in the twenty first century,
roughly half of Republicans are pretty terrible on immigration.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I think that would be fair me. You know, in
recent years the numbers changed a lot because of Trump,
but if you were to take this all the way
back to say the year two thousand, you take this
back to the Bush era, Republicans have been bad too.
So this has been a huge, huge issue and a
little bit like where we are with the debt. And
(04:06):
I'm not somebody who traffics in despair on this program.
Quite the opposite. Right, we talk about the problems, we
also talk about the solutions. We look at what's gone wrong,
we never forget what's going right. But the immigration situation
is a bit like our four are soon to be
forty trillion dollars of debt. It is massive. It is
(04:29):
affecting everything, and I don't know if we're going to
be able to fix it. This is just the truth.
We're going to try. I certainly am advocating for it.
But you hear people like Stephen Miller, who knows this
issue and is of sound mind on this issue at
the absolute peak. I mean, he's like at the top
(04:52):
of his game on immigration. This has cut sixteen. He's
pointing out that this issue of immigration, and more specifically
legal it is messing up everything in this country. You
cannot bring tens of millions. We don't know the number.
I would guess, see whatever I say, you're gonna say, buck,
(05:13):
how could you? It's more, it's less. Most of you
would say. I think there are twenty to thirty million
illegals in the country right now. Twenty to thirty million,
And I don't think that's even I think that's like
definitely twenty twenty five, and maybe it's thirty thirty five.
It's a lot, it's a lot. Tens of millions for sure.
(05:36):
The number they were telling us it's eleven million. Please.
They let ten million in under Biden, and they're planning
to never leave. So we know we're in the twenties.
I think we're in the thirties. Some of you are
gonna say, book we're in the forties. Maybe, but it's
definitely twenties, thirties millions that we're talking about here. And
this is Stephen Miller on what a big issue it is.
Play sixteen.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
We mask the impact of immigration every public alls the
issue we discuss. We talk about test scores. If you
subtract immigration out of test scores, all of a sudden,
our test scores skyrocket. If you subtract immigration out of healthcare,
all of a sudden, we don't have near the science
of the healthcare challenges our country fasis. If you subtract
(06:17):
immigration out of public safety, all of a sudden, we
don't have by the crime in so many of our cities.
Issue after issue, we talk about these things that just
they just happened to us. The schools just suddenly fail,
by the crime just suddenly explodes, the deficit just suddenly skyrockets.
These are a result of social policy choices that we
made through immigration.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It's all true. It's all true now the way that
this issue has been in and this is why the
Abrago Garcia thing is interfascinating Democrats acluvs types, Oh my gosh,
anything to keep a Brao Garcia and this this guy's
in illegal, it's been been accused of crimes. He's in illegal.
(06:59):
He should go. Whatever it is they wanted, whatever is
they have to do, they will do the left the
Democrats will do to keep illegals in this country. They
want to keep them all. If they could keep them all,
they would keep them all. Occasionally and they'll say what
about Obama and all this, Yeah, in order to fool
just enough people to stay in power, Democrats will occasionally
(07:23):
go through a period of oh, you know, you're right,
this is a problem. Oh maybe we should And what
Obama did was change the definition of a deportation such
that people who were caught and turned away immediately the
border they counted as a deportation. So they were juicing
the numbers there. But they were also doing that so
(07:44):
they could create the political momentum with the Gang of
Eight bill, with the Gang the Senate Gang of Eight.
They were trying to create the political momentum for a
mass amnesty, which is and by the way, that's game over.
Do you know that the Ray ammessy The worst thing
that Reagan did when he was president was the amnesty
(08:04):
they did under Eisenhower, the deportation operation there and I
think it was over a million. It was like one
point q one point three million in one year deported
and that was in nineteen fifty something. So we've been
here before and the country at at some points has said,
(08:25):
you know what, this is crazy. You gotta go, you
gotta go. Also, note people act like it's so oh,
you've been in America for a year or three years
or whatever it may be. The notion of going back
to the country you lived in your whole life until
you snuck into this country. It's so horrible, it's so unthinkable.
(08:48):
What does that mean? Well, actually, it's interesting. Trump is
just saying stuff out loud that you're you're not supposed
to say, you're not allowed to say, but we say
it now. There are countries that people want to live in,
countries that are crappy. This is true. There are cultures
that produce countries where people live in security prosperity, able
(09:11):
to achieve some degree of of you know, of of
relative happiness, and and where countries where that's just not
not going on at all, where people live a far
more Hobbesian you know, life is British, nasty and short
Hobbesian existence. And Somalia is a very very high on
that list of what Hobbes would say. That's a rough place.
(09:35):
Here is Trump saying, you know, we should be bringing
in more people from countries that produce extremely law abiding,
extremely high productivity, aligned with our values, immigrants, that's what
(09:56):
we should be doing. This is cut fifteen. This is
what Trump says.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
We had a meeting and I say, why is it
we only take people from whole countries? Right?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Why can't we have some people from Norway?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Sweeten?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Just a few? Let us have a few from from Denmark.
Do you mind sending us with your people, Send us
some nice people, do you mind? But we always take
people from Semia, places that are a disaster, right, filthy, dirty, discussing.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Ridden with crime.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
The only thing they're good at is going after ships.
You can tell Trump not a fan of Somalia. It's
definitely seeing black Hawk down a few times. Not a
fan of Somolia, and a lot of Somalis aren't either.
You know, we talk about the Somali population here in Minneapolis.
There's a tremendous amount of displacement of Somalis into Kenya,
which is right next door, which is still a country
(10:50):
with a lot of tremendous amount of crime, unfortunately, a
lot of problems, but the functional country. Uh. Notice though
that it's you're not supposed to say we want people
from happy, good countries. And you say, well, hold on,
I thought our immigration system we have been told all
(11:11):
this time that we're.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Taking the next founder of Google, and we're this is
you know, immigration doing the jobs Americans won't do, and
we're a nation of immigrants.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
You hear all this propaganda, all this stuff all the time.
It's supposed the system is supposed to benefit the people.
Here is the system. Is our immigration system in the
twenty first century, benefiting those who are already here on
a aggregate you know, net net on an aggregate basis,
(11:41):
or have we turned into a immigration from third world
countries welfare ward that we constantly are lied to and
because most of the very poor countries in the world,
this starts to get into other conversations about immigration and
(12:03):
about the nation state. Most of the very poor countries
in the world are non white countries. And so when
you start to look at countries that you don't necessarily
want to take a lot of immigrants from because they're
going to have Again, this is just objective stuff. It's
not about not liking the way someone looks. It's not
about judging someone because of their skin color. It's we're
(12:24):
making policies to benefit Americans. If you're taking people from
countries with high levels of crime and or terrorism, low
level of education, do not speak English and have no
cultural tie or affinity to America other than we're really
rich here, and they get to be safe and get
(12:45):
free stuff. And then, of course, as soon as possible,
start voting in the directions that will undermine all of that, right,
start voting for socialism, start voting for Islamism, start voting
for whatever. We are told that that's not what's happening,
but that has been happening, and people are allowed to
notice that and be upset about it, and the American
(13:08):
people are allowed to say this baiten switch cannot happen anymore.
Where you say it is to our benefit. But really
it is part of some global dei crusade of we
need to have the most non white immigration possible. Look,
there are a lot, There are plenty of countries that
(13:29):
are non white countries that are wonderful places.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
People are doing.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Great, you know. I KNOWE ever always is attacking Japan,
for example, for its lack of you know, replacement. They've
got to have more kids. That's true. But it's an
amazing Taiwan, which I just came back from. It is
an amazing country, phenomenal in so many ways, wonderful people,
incredibly smart, incredibly civilized. And you know, there are many,
(13:57):
many others. There are a lot of great countries all
around the world. Our immigration system is absolutely not set
up to prioritize those people. We say the reality of
immigration is kind of the way if you had, like,
you know, a Gavin Newsome voting California, you know, wine
(14:20):
swilling lib you know, with the Chardonnay glass, and oh,
let's take as many people from war torn filling the
blank as possible, because that'll make me feel I'm gonna
live in Beverly Hills, but it'll make me feel good
about myself to say that we're gonna take as many
people from what do they call it in Team America
(14:41):
Dirka Drkistan, right to take as many people from whatever
country is some gee hottest hellhole of the moment or
whatever going through some famine or civil war. We're supposed
to have a very small percentage of asylum seekers. Look
what happened. These millions and millions of people came in.
They're all say they're here for asylum. They're not here
(15:01):
for asylum, They're here for the spoil system. Can we
get enough of them to actually go back to their
home countries that America can be saved? This is the question.
This is where we are, and it certainly where the
Trump administration is on this. But I'm is it too late?
We'll see what do you think happens? If a Democrat
wins the next election, they're gonna open the floodgates again.
(15:24):
Of course, of course they are. If Trump can't get
this done with the House in the Senate, who's gonna
reverse the flood. We need to talk about this. We
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Speaker 6 (16:51):
Buck, My birthday is also on Christmas, and I just
wanted to weigh in on the birthday paper versus Christmas paper.
On birthday presents.
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You kind of feel like you're an afterthought if your
birthday presence are wrapped in Christmas paper. It's kind of
important to at least separate them out so you know
the difference.
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Really, Producer Ali, can I get a Can I take
this to the judge's table here or Producer Mike, am
I supposed to make distinctions between Christmas wrapping paper and
birthday wrapping? Absolutely? I'm with the ladies on this one.
What this is just like little designs? I mean, aren't
there just you know, little like elephants with balloons or
something for them both? Now I know what? Yeah, that's great.
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There's a mutanty you guys have started a mutiny with
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to Clay and Buck, we are talking immigration and how
this is such a critical issue, So go with immigration,
So go with the nation. I think ken Trump and
his team fix it. You had DHS Secretary of Nome
(19:09):
on the Hill today getting a whole lot of back
and forth with Democrats who are trying to get their soundbites,
and she is trying to make the case, make the
case that well, for one, Democrats are very dishonest on
this issue. Of course that's true, and that the Trump
(19:31):
administration is acting within the law, and that there's going
to be a lot more of what we have already seen.
I certainly hope that's the case. In the meantime, over
on that CNN show, I think it's CNN tonight, right,
is that the one or they changed them all the time.
It doesn't really it's that the one with Abby Phillip
(19:53):
whatever they call it. She was talking about this. She
was talking about the immigration issue that you and I
are discussing here. And I just want to point out
whenever you start to hear a liberal talk about this
country and they're the worst on guns, this is just
(20:14):
kind of funny for those of you, which is pretty
much not all of you, but a vast, vast majority
of you who are gun people. Democrats will speak about
guns and it's like their first day of learning Mandarin Chinese,
like they just know nothing and they don't care. They
know nothing. They'll talk about chainsaw, bayonets and machine gun, flamethrower,
(20:35):
you know, laser pods, and they just have no idea.
They just know they want to ban them, they want
to take them from you. Everything goes. When they talk
about the history of immigration, they also have no idea.
They don't know what they're talking about, and they leave
out very key things, things that we need to know
today and we need to have people familiar with in
(20:57):
order to have reasonable mitigration policy going forward. And I
think we've reached a point in America where the foreign
born population is too high, meaning that we need to
slow things down. It's not a knock on anybody who's
an immigrant legally, not a knock on anybody's background who's
an immigrant, or anyone's religion or skin color who's an immigrant.
(21:19):
It's just okay. The history of America and its immigration
policies has been we take in a bunch of people
and then we say, okay, we need to let everyone
do the America thing for a while here, and then
all right, we taking in a bunch of people, and
then we say, hold on a second, it's time to
let everybody get to know each other, americanize the new arrivals.
(21:44):
And this is now something you can talk about. You
couldn't even say this stuff really ten fifteen years ago
without oh my gosh, how could you. Well, look, what's
happening in Europe. You have large constituencies, including of asylum
seekers or refugee in European countries who make it very explicit.
They hate the country. That I mean when I say
(22:05):
hate it. They love the welfare, they love that they're
now safe and fed and warm and housed and all
of that courtesy of the host country. But they despise
the beliefs and the people and the culture and everything else.
You have this in the UK, you have this in Sweden,
you have this in the Netherlands. You have this in Belgium,
you have this in France, you have this in Spain.
You know you have Germany. You have this in these countries.
(22:27):
Now large populations of new arrivals who are not saying, hey,
we're gonna we're gonna be there for you. We're going
to do the best stuff we had, and we're so grateful.
We're so grateful. Do you get the sense that the
illegals that have come into America, who go to these protests,
(22:49):
for example, and create all this this spectacle in places
like Los Angeles, Remember we saw that Trump called it
the National Guard, do they ever speak of the gratitude
they have for this country. No, they think they just
they think that it's owed to them. I came here
and I'm just as American as you, but you're not.
(23:09):
You're not lawfully in this country. You violated the Compact.
The law of the United States is something that binds
all Americans, and you, the illegal, have violated that. You
are not as American as everybody else. Sorry, but you
go on place like CNN and they will say things
(23:30):
that are just counterfactual about the history of immigration and
how these processes have all worked. And I've even gotten
to the point now where I like to say to people,
you know, pick a country, Pick a country like Sweden.
It's a good example for a bunch of reasons. I
think Sweden has ten million people, you know, ten million people,
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and they've let in something like a million migrants in
the last decade or two from the Middle East, from
Muslim countries, and they've got some problems, some challenges by
the the data on particularly violent crimes of sex sexual
crimes show that the new arrivals, unfortunately in these countries
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from the Muslim world, are wildly disproportionately represented in the
ranks of the offenders, just a fact, so much so
that countries like Sweden try to hide it as a
matter of state policy. We have that too, I might add,
in this country you have a lot of in the
(24:37):
stats about who's committing crimes. You'll have illegals who look
like they're in MS thirteen, but they'll be counted in
prison data as white. So wait, so now we're dealing
with the white Hispanic thing again. Remember that with George Zimmerman,
which they only could pull off. They thought the media
on the Trayvon Martin situation because his last name was Zimmerman.
(24:58):
If his name was, you know, with George to Minguez,
might have been a little harder to say he's a
white guy. But that's that's what they tried for a
while there. The white Hispanic I'd never I had truly never.
I'm trying to think in the media. Have had I
ever heard that term? I don't think I'd ever heard
that term in a media report, at least before the
George Zimmerman Trayvon Martin trial, which Obama weighed in on.
(25:20):
If you recall and said, if he had a son,
he would have looked like Trayvon because Obama was really
interested in harmony and racial healing in this country. Sure,
how did that all go for us? Regardless? I am
now on a mission to try to do all I
can to educate people who were willing to listen about
(25:44):
what really happened at various times in this country's history
when it comes to immigration. Oh sorry, Sweden, I have
to finish my Sweden a Sweden model. I'm weaving. I'm weaving,
as Trump says, right, he says, I'm weaving and weaving
a story, weaving a tale. Okay, sweeteness, ten million people.
Would it still be Sweden if they brought in five
million Syrians, Iraqis and Somalis? Just take that one. Would
(26:08):
it still be Sweden? Technically? Yes? Maybe you would. You
would call it that? Is it the same country? Is
it the same country? Oh? So the people will admit
when you go through this that at some point, if
you change the people in a country enough, it is
a different country. That's obvious. And if that, and if
(26:29):
the five million of the ten million coming from very
different cultures, very different backgrounds, doesn't okay, what if we
brought in ten million, What if you're brought in ten
what if all of a sudden You'll also notice that
it is only countries, according to the Left and according
to Democrats, that are predominantly or overwhelmingly white Caucasian, that
(26:51):
are supposed to just say this is a process, that
this is as natural as it can be. We want
as many people from the third world as possible. The
Japanese aren't doing that, quite the opposite. In fact, they
Japan is for Japanese. China is not doing that, second
biggest country in the world, India is not doing that,
(27:12):
the biggest country in the world. They're not saying, give
me everyone from everywhere else. But why is it that America,
Canada and Western European countries are supposed to do that
without protest, no matter the consequences. Well we start to
see what's what the awakening in this country has been
(27:35):
all about. And I would also again just work through
this piece by piece. If all countries are the same
in terms of where we should be privileging those who
come here legally, why even have a system that pretends
to be sorting and making decisions. It's all the same,
(27:55):
of course, it's not all the same. Canada had a
points system, an explicit point system for how much money
you have, your education, and they still have all kinds
of problems up there now with assimilation and with the
unity of the Canadian people, and still have a lot
of problems. But they were just like, we're going to
(28:16):
take the people that are going to do the best
for us, and that was I think, well, I'll let
the Canadian speak on that one. But it's been a
big change in perception about that. So why even have
a system that allows some in but not others If
it's all the same. Clearly some countries are going to
send and this is not This is again about policy.
(28:38):
Are there amazing? Are there incredible? Yeah? Ion Hersy Ali
is Somali. She's brilliant, She's brave, she's incredible, incredible woman.
Read her book Infidel whatever it was twenty something years ago.
She is gutsy, she is she's an amazing woman, she's Somalie.
(28:58):
It's not about holding anything against any individual. And we
talk about immigration, it's about we gotta make we got
to draw the line somewhere. We have to have some
what's generally true policies, And it is generally true that
taking people from I've talked about Taiwana fair a bit
(29:20):
because I was just there from Taiwan is going to
result in more people who are highly productive, highly law
abiding than taking people who have have come here from
pick a country from Yemen. Yemen's been in rough shape
(29:42):
for a long time now, very poor country, war torn country, ideologically,
a lot of jihadism. Okay, So and then this goes
back even to what the's so called Muslim bent. We
have to start to look at this, Okay, I wanted
to do. CNN. Here's CNN's Abby Phillip taking shots at
Stephen Miller over his role in Trump administration immigration policy,
(30:06):
play seventeen.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
Why are you assuming that assimilation is not happening? Yeah,
because you know, when Stephen Miller's ancestors came here in
the early nineteen hundreds, they didn't speak a lick of English. Okay,
they were working factory jobs there is a generational shift
that happens where sometimes the first generation they don't speak English,
but they have children and those people are Americans and
(30:30):
they become people who are no different from you or
you or you or you. Assimilation actually is happening. It
does happen.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
So that's not the policy that we have been told
is in effect, which is just take anybody. Eventually they'll
learn English, and their kids will be born here and
they'll be as American as everybody else. And I also note,
in the context of a place like Europe, we've seen
it's not always true, not always true they even learn
a language. And I'm gonna tell you this, I'm here
(31:01):
in South Florida. There are I did not really come
across as very much in New York City in my
thirty something years living in New York. It is more
common here. There are people here who speak no English,
who live here, who are here forever. They speak no English.
They are immigrants to this country. They do not speak
any English. That's a problem. Everybody who's here should be
(31:24):
able to speak English. English to Trump signed, you know,
English is the National Language Executive Order. I would like
to see actually more action on this with Congress. You
have to have shared law, shared language, shared culture, shared history,
because a nation at some level is a people who
come together around ideas and those shared things that I
(31:47):
just laid out, But it is a people, meaning that
it's a place in time and a people in that place.
And you can't just say all of you go over
here to some other place and we're going to replace
all of you at once, and it's the same country.
That's just not true. And so we've had to look
at this at a very baseline level. What is going
(32:08):
on in America today? How rapidly is the are the
American people not as American in the sense that you've
got tens of millions of illegals who are here, and
you've got people who are arriving here and in the
case of what we see in Minneapolis, immediately becoming dependent
(32:29):
on the state. Immediately they want their benefits, and that's
on all of us to pay those bills. The Americans
who are already here, we're allowed to say, I don't
want to be I don't want the boot of the
state on my neck making sure that I give forty
percent of my income to the federal government so that
I can pay for foreigners who have arrived here, and
(32:51):
you can say, oh, it's only a small part of
the budget. Okay, well then get rid of it that
it shouldn't be happening at all. Finally we can talk
about this. The President's talking about this a lot, but
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with either a call, a talkback or an email just
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thank you, kill high dittos, chield tie mega dittos, Thank
you so much. You see that guys man card reinstated
over this one. Two kinds of two kinds of wrapping.
You New York City, You New York City team getting
a little fancy, a little high falutin if you will.
(35:23):
Uh you know you you're wrapping your two different kinds
of paper while wearing a top hat and monocle. Just
say it. That's right, I'm I'm I'm on to you
guys up there down here in Florida, we just we
just wrap it with whatever. Wrap it in, uh, wrap
it in in uh you know, palm leaves. If I
have to here, we go gg Jim in Texas.
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As far as wrapping paper, do what my dad used
to do. He would wrap everything Birthday or Christmas in newspapers,
our old grocery shopping bags.
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Thank y'all, and y'all have a wonderful holiday. Hey Jim,
you have a great holiday too. Merry Christmas. I don't
know I think if I wrapped, if someone wrapped my
Christmas present in newspaper. I would think they were giving
me like fish from the from the you know, fish market,
or maybe some steak. Now I love my steak, but
(36:19):
that would be my association. So I'm not sure I
could do the newspaper thing right away. But that is
kicking at old school for sure. We've got the White
House weighing in on the economy, which we're gonna talk
more about in the next hour. Also, Senator Ron Johnson
of Wisconsin will be with us in the middle of
the next hour. We'll talk to him about the Senate
healthcare vote today, about the economy, and about so much more.
(36:43):
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