December 11, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of today’s Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show dives deep into the state of the U.S. economy, immigration enforcement battles, and the political messaging challenges facing Republicans as we head toward the midterms. Buck Sexton hosts solo while Clay is in transit, setting the stage for a packed hour of analysis and listener interaction.
The discussion opens with the economic outlook under President Donald Trump’s second term, emphasizing persistent affordability issues and inflationary pressures that remain despite strong stock market performance. Buck highlights the lingering impact of COVID-era shutdowns and stimulus spending, noting that prices for essentials like housing, healthcare, and education remain high. He cites recent trade deficit improvements as evidence of Trump’s “America First” trade policies and tariff strategy, while warning that Democrats will weaponize price discontent in upcoming elections.
Listeners hear insights from former SEC Chair Jay Clayton on the 22% price surge under Biden, framing affordability as the defining economic challenge. Buck stresses that Republicans must go beyond blaming Biden-era inflation and articulate clear solutions, including boosting supply and efficiency rather than resorting to destructive price controls—a policy he compares to Venezuela’s economic collapse.
The hour also touches on Miami’s political shift, where Democrats recently won downtown for the first time in 30 years, driven by housing costs—a trend Buck warns could repeat nationally. He underscores that economic messaging and immigration enforcement will be pivotal for GOP success in 2026.
On immigration, Buck previews breaking news about a federal judge ordering the release of Ilmar Abrego Garcia, an alleged MS-13 gang member at the center of Trump administration deportation efforts. This case unfolds as DHS Secretary Nome testifies on Capitol Hill, spotlighting the administration’s push for stronger ICE enforcement and border security.
Buck also addresses healthcare policy battles, revealing dueling Senate bills on Obamacare subsidies and criticizing Democrats’ push to extend Affordable Care Act provisions, which he argues have made healthcare far less affordable. He warns that rising premiums and taxpayer-funded coverage for illegal immigrants remain underreported but critical issues.
Throughout Hour 1, Buck calls for unity on the right, rejecting intramural squabbles and urging focus on core priorities: fixing costs, securing the border, and countering media misinformation. He promotes his upcoming book Manufacturing Delusion, which explores propaganda and political manipulation, framing it as essential reading for understanding today’s ideological battles.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody. Thursday edition of The Clay Travis en
Buck Sexton Show. It kicks off right now. Mister Clay
is in transit, so he is in the sky. I
will be your solo pilot for the next three hours.
My co pilot is on another plane. But we've got
a lot to talk about. He'll be back tomorrow. We'll
(00:21):
actually be together here in South Florida doing the show.
And in the meantime, I want to bring you up
to speed on all of the things that are happening
out there right now, so many of them, so many things,
so many things happening. You had DHS Secretary Nome up
on Capitol Hill, you have business leaders talking to Trump
(00:44):
about the state of the economy and this affordability question.
Some people are concerned, and I mean people on our side, capitalists,
reasonable intelligent people, concerned about how things are looking going
into the end of the year here and what it
will mean for the mid terms. Now, for those who
(01:05):
are saying the concern should be fix the economy, not
the political consequences of problems in the economy, well let
me tell you something. It's getting a lot worse. If
Democrats can throw sand in the gears of the Trump administration.
If they can play spoiler just by having a majority
in the House, we will get to impeachment number three.
(01:26):
It will be a circus, the whole thing. So it
is important that we get into a good place here
and also that the Trump administration continues to tell everybody
what the plans are more on immigration and ice enforcement
as well. We've got some important sound to share with you,
(01:48):
some some clips to share with you on that. I'm
going to start off actually with a little bit of
talk on the economy. There's there's news today that we
will dive into shortly about a Fed judge now saying
that Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the alleged MS thirteen gang member
who for over a year now has been at the
(02:08):
center of all these administration efforts to deport this guy,
and it's turned into a huge political football. This has
turned into a Supreme Court weighing in. God got sound
to al Salvador. We're gonna send him a bunch of
other countries, but then we can. And now you've got
a federal judge saying you gotta let him out right now,
(02:30):
So we will see. And that's going on while DHS
Secretary Nome is up on Capitol Hill, so that's certainly
in our sites and an important story. Let's though, just
for a bit here, talk about where we stand on
the economy. People are concerned, and I hear that concern
(02:54):
from many of you that prices are quite high. And
I understand the challenge here is it's really hard to
bring down prices once they've gone up considerably, and this
is a legacy of the madness of COVID. I think
everyone should keep that in mind. That many of us,
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well not many, some of us. There were even some
conservatives who were pretty bad on the COVID stuff, especially
on lockdowns and all the rest of it. We're saying,
you can't just tell people stay home, don't do anything
in print money, and then you can't just spend as
much money as you want to juice the economy after
that shutdown. Unfortunately, that is largely what happened, and we
(03:39):
are still dealing with the reality of that. Now. I
will give you some of these details, or we will
discuss some of these details. But first up here CNBC,
this is cut eleven Rick Santelli. He's talking some numbers,
talking trade deficit. Let's hear from the man over at
CNBC play it.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Trade billance fit fifty two point eight billion. That's a
better lower trade deficit than we expected. We were looking
for a number closer to sixty two billion, and that
follows a revised minus fifty nine billion. Minus fifty two
billion would be the lightest going back to Wow, we're
really going back. Well, my records go back to nineteen
(04:23):
ninety two, and to find a smaller number than minus
fifty two billion, we're all the way back to June
of twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
So this is important because Trump is establishing a rebalancing
of our global trade, America's global trade with the tariffs.
And as I've said all along, you don't have to
be an expert in tariffs to understand that something is up.
When all of these other countries have tariffs on us,
we don't have tariffs on really anyone. And we're the
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ones who can't figure this out, or you know, we're
we're the odd man out. But it's because we're so
much smarter than every other country, or is it because
we've been convinced by the globalist elite in our own
country that entirely free trade that does not take in
America first perspective. That allows all the offshoring and all
the stuff that we have seen decimate the American for example,
(05:21):
American manufacturing sector, auto industry, all these things that that
is somehow to our benefit. Well it's really to the
perhaps the stock price benefit of a handful of companies.
But people are changing their tune on this. They're seeing
what's really going on. But the problem is prices. The
problem is that stuff is still expensive and people are
upset about it. In fact, even here in my home. Well,
(05:45):
I live in Miami Beaches, you know, and that's next
door to Miami. I didn't even know this until I've
moved down here. Technically different cities, they're not part of
one city. And so Miami proper just elected Downtown Miami
elected a Democrat for the first time thirty years. And
it was a combination of two things that we're going
to have to really get right for the next year
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for the purposes of the midterm election, but also just
because they will be central I think to the success
or failure of the Trump agenda in his second term.
The cost of stuff, particularly housing young people came out
Miami has become incredibly expensive as a City. It used
to be a great deal. I mean, if you were
smart enough to come here in two thousand and nine
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ten and start buying up some condos, you've done phenomenally well.
Now not so much. But the price of things, especially
housing in Miami is very high, so that factors in.
We saw this also in New York City when you
have Mom. Donnieism largely built around the promise of bringing
housing prices down. He's going to bring the cost of
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rent down. Now, if you know anything about economics, you
know that his solutions to these problems will actually make
things worse. But they sound good, and you can get
a lot of power by saying things that sound good,
no matter how bad the results are actually going to be.
One of the issues we're going to have is that
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going into a midterm year, right, It's we're at the
end of year one of Trump's second term. Yeah, a
lot of us can point to the status of the
Biden economy and what was going on, but that is
not going to be compelling enough to win in key
in challenging races. Former SEC chair Jay Clayton had this
(07:40):
to say about the economy. I thought you should hear this.
This is cut twelve. The affordability issue is but from
the twenty two percent increase in prices in inflation under Biden,
there's this full stop right there.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
That's the affordability issue, and you got to be able
to explain that.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
And look, I think that with the economic team President
Trump and the economic team led by Scott Dessa, you
have people who very much understand us. And it was
a they were thrown You know what, I would say,
the worst economy for the average American in my adult
lifetime in terms of the like you said, the incredible
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increase in prices at the household.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
This is true, and the case has to be made,
but it is not sufficient on its own. All of
you who call in, write in and say, hey guys,
hey Clay, hey Buck, this stuff is just too expensive
where I am, particularly healthcare, housing, education, these things are
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just the price out of control in some aspects depends
on the product, but groceries. Gas prices are down, but
many of you and the truckers out there, we love
our truckers, are saying diesel prices are still considerably higher
than we would want to see them for a robust economy.
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Spending at Christmas time. I've seen some of the data
on this one. Spending at Christmas time seems to be
quite a bit down. People are not shelling out the
kind of cash that they did, even compared to last year. Now.
I think there was tremendous bullions about the economy because
of Trump's victory. So that explains in part why last
(09:27):
year people were spending because they thought, oh, we're going
to have a good economy, and they were right. But
now it's too full. The challenge ahead on prices, affordability
a word I'm as I've said along, you have to
prepare yourself to hear about this more than any of
us are going to want to. But the power balance
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in DC and therefore the future of the country for
the next few years is going to be largely determined.
I think based upon that the two big issues it's
going to be the affordability and immigration election mid terms.
That's what's gonna that's what's gonna move the needle. And
this is Republicans are seeing this early enough. Thankfully, I'm
(10:10):
not having this talk with all of you in August
of the election year or September of the election year. Hey, Republicans,
it's time to make the case. I think they're actually
seeing this in advance. And they have Scott Besson, who
is both very good at the job of Treasury Secretary
and a very good spokesman for what this administration, the Treasury,
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the economy, the Fed, all of this is doing. He's
a very good mind, a very good mouthpiece on these issues.
But this is what Democrats are gonna hammer. They're gonna
hammer the discontent of the prices. Isn't this the most
classic move that the Democrats could possibly come up with.
They made it so prices get all jacked up. We
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told them don't We said, don't do it. This is
going back to twenty twenty one, said don't do it. Guys,
it's crazy. Don't spend the trillions. We've already put a
lot of pressure, a lot of heat into the economy
with all the shutdown spending. And that was under Trump,
but that was both sides were saying, Oh, the world's
gonna end, you know, the whole thing. Trump left it
(11:16):
to the states whether to stay open or not, and
with the exception of Florida, states generally did not stay open.
South Dakota state open. But there's not very many people
in South Dakota. So that was easier. Most states shut down,
as you know, and so we had to do something.
There was that whole emergency. But now telling people that
the worst inflation in forty years started four years ago
(11:41):
is not really a winning strategy, right or in five
years ago, whatever, it's that's not enough. I think that, unfortunately,
is going to be insufficient as part of the narrative
which brings me to you the solutions and the things
that Trump and his team are trying to do. Look
at what has happened on Trey alone. That's why I
started with that. Look at where he is on tariffs.
(12:05):
They said, the so called intelligency and Trump's going to
crash the economy based on the tariffs. He's gonna mess
everything up. No, in fact, the economy, this stock market
has been booming, but prices have remained high. The only
way to bring prices down is well, if you want
to get really technical about it, technical about it, you
got to see a you can have a cessation of demand,
(12:28):
or you could have an increase in supply. But the
best thing that we could see is an increase in
efficiency of manufacturing of goods and services. And you know,
and spending and investment, and that's what will bring prices down.
Mandates the Mamdani approach price controls. Price controls not only
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have made New York City and the whole state of
California but because of government regulation, but price controls in
New York City have made real estate far more Anywhere
where they try this, it makes real estate more expensive.
And overall, price controls in the economy is part of
what has destroyed a large part of what destroyed the
Venezuelan economy. I mean, there's many things, but price controls
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is at the heart of it. Oh, we're just gonna
seize assets, and then we can't make this stuff. We're
gonna seize the factories, right, this is the Maduro approach.
We'll seize the factories and we'll make the stuff, but
we can't make much money off of it, and we're
not very good at making it, so we'll just say
it has to cost this. Well, that doesn't work that
way because you can't make them at that price. I
(13:33):
guess what happened. Shortages and then the black market comes
in with the real price. And all of this is
very well established. But the Trump team has to get
very dialed in on here is yes, talk about what
the Biden inflation was, and that's why I played that
se former SEC chair talk about what the Biden inflation was,
(13:54):
but also how it is coming down, how it is
being addressed, and how it is going to get better
over the next year because of what Trump is doing.
Republicans gotta focus in on this because it is not
an overstatement to say if we have a week year
of not just policy, but a week year of messaging,
(14:15):
and I'm gonna say, Republicans, where's the big legislation, guys,
the big beautiful bill. Okay, it's a spending bill. Where's
the legislation, where's the you know, the the new approach
to healthcare. Got to get together on this one and
make some things happen. If you lose the House and
you're Donald Trump, then it just turns into, all right,
(14:36):
we gotta wait for the next election. We gotta wait
for the you know, the heir apparent of the Republican
Party to take over for MAGA, because the Democrats will
just till they will what's the phrase cut off their
nose to spite their face. I mean, they will just
make everything stink and then blame it all on Trump.
And you know that. So economy, economy, economy, very very important.
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Speaker 1 (16:29):
Welcome back in here. We'll get into the immigration issue
in a second. I want to take some of your calls.
Uh Ken in Texas wants to chat economy and Trump.
What's going on? Ken?
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Good morning. What's on my mind is is that you know,
you guys are covering the economy and immigration and all
the other modern day issues on your show, and Donald
Trump is going around doing interviews as well as some
of his surrogates. But those interviews are only lasting about
thirty minutes to an hour and they're being edited. On
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the other hand, for twenty five four hours a day,
seven days a week. CNN, MSNBC and their Democrat cohorts
are just blaming everything on Donald Trump, which is ridiculous
if you actually pay attention. But the z gen Z
and those and the ladies that actually are voting Democrat,
they get all of their information from CNM, MSNBC and
(17:21):
the View. So how do you counter that in a
year when they're spreading total misinformation and there's only a
few outlets like you and Fox News that are actually
covering real information.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Well, I would say what you're saying is all true, Ken,
but certainly don't despair. I mean, keep in mind Trump
is the president and Republicans do have the House in
the Senate, so we are capable of getting the truth
out and getting the messaging out beyond. And it's more
so now, I think, than it has been in a
very long time. The media advantage is much less. But
let me get let me get back into that when
we come back here to second, Ken, I think you
(17:55):
raise a very good point. How do we deal with
the narrative? How do we have a counter narra to
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(19:03):
be here before you know. You know, my wife's birthday
is Christmas, so I can do the two for one
on the presence. I'm just saying I got that going
for me, which is nice. And then my birthday is
a few days later, on December the twenty eighth, so
I will not be on air that day, but I
will be turning. I'm not kidding, I forget right now
(19:25):
forty four. I will be forty four years old, as
the gray in my little kind of almost almost appeared
is indicating I'm getting older. But I'm very excited for
the Christmas season. I've got my in laws here actually
right now, I'll be seeing more and more family, and
I'm sure many of you will too, and that's fantastic.
(19:46):
So on the one hand, I am in a really
good mood, and I think that it has been a
great year. I've had a great year. I've loved doing
this show. And we'll talk more about this next week.
In the last couple of days i'm live on the
air with you. Great year for this program, and we're
so thankful for all of you, honestly who listen and
who are with us through this. I feel blessed that
(20:07):
I get to do this show every day. I love
my job. There's no other job that I would rather
have than this job, which is an incredible thing to
be able to say. And I say that as somebody
who was asked at one point to maybe have a
cabinet level position in the government. I still would rather
do this job, you know, full stop. I love what
we get to do here. But there's a responsibility with
(20:28):
that as well, of course, not just to do the
best show possible, but to try to help help save
the country in what little way we can. There's so
many competing voices out there, and that then brings me
to the I keep calling it the food fight. You know,
there's all this stuff that's happening right now, and I'm
not even sure how many of you are aware of it.
(20:48):
You know, you haven't brought it up very much. And
I always tell you this. Your calls, your emails, even
the ones that don't make it on the air, the
team reads them, Clay and I read them. So we
haven't ongoing conversation every day. All the VIP emails, all
the talkbacks, and even if you don't get on the air,
but you call in and you talk to usually it's
(21:08):
producer Greg to come on live on the show. He
tells us what you were going to say, So we
know where you are as much as we can. And
we're always trying to be up on your thoughts on
how the country is going, and we haven't seen very
much of Hey, where are you on the food fight?
And you know, I really appreciate that, and I like
(21:30):
it because there is a decency and a maturity in
this audience that is I think second to none in
the entire world of media, but also in it's certainly
in conservative media. I think that you are people who
come at this, this saving of the country, caring about
(21:52):
the country with so much good faith and enough wisdom
to know that you don't want your time wasted on
petty non sense, petty nonsense. So and Clay and I
talked about this, you know, because we see what's going
on out there and we choose not to get into
the into the mudslugging and everything else. Some of these
(22:13):
are people that are involved that we'd like. Some of them.
I don't even really know some of them. I don't
want to know. It doesn't really matter. I'm telling you
about all this one just so you know that we're
we're for any of you who are asking why haven't
you gotten into We're trying to save the country here.
And I don't say that to be grandiose or you
know what, We're trying to get as many people as informed,
(22:35):
as fired up, as engaged, and get more people. We
want more young people. We want digital audience too, we
want YouTube subscribers, we want you know, as well as
our fantastic five hundred and sixty something stations. Who's counting.
We are, But we want to focus on what really
matters here. And I just want to say, I think
(22:56):
it is to your tremendous credit that you want to
as well, because we're not getting a lot of we
don't get a lot of chirping at us about well
what about this crazy thing that this lunatic said. You know, yeah,
we make fun of the left and the Democrats to
say things, but we don't. I don't get into squabbles
with people on the right. If you're on my team
(23:18):
for ninety percent or ninety five percent of stuff, you're
on my team as it pertains to policy, as it
pertains to saving the country. And I just think that
you give us the latitude in a leeway to continue
to focus on what matters, which brings me to we
are in a real fight here for the stuff that
is affecting you every day, and I think we're we're
(23:40):
losing that, am I saying? We the Republicans are losing
a little bit of ground on this right now? How
many even new about this? That there are competing Obamacare
plans being voted on right now in the Senate. In fact,
I think the Republican one just right producer ally just
got voted on and failed. Now, of course that of
(24:00):
course it failed, that's not the surprise. But they need
to be talking about what's involved here and now we've
got these these different plans. This is the stuff that
really affects your day to day life. You're talking to
me about prices. Everyone needs to understand Obama Care, which
(24:21):
was passed with a Senate supermajority. Right remember the disaster
of the McCain two thousand and eight campaign and a
huge recession, and you know, the Great Recession, all this stuff,
they had wide open, wide open pathway to slam through
whatever they wanted, essentially, and this is what they did.
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They pushed this reorganization of healthcare that has really put
us on a glide path to single payer. And it's ali,
I shouldn't say glidepath. It's more like a train that
has gone off the tracks and is eventually going to
like implode, right, But they know that that's what has happened.
There's nothing gliding about this. It's not nice because the
(25:04):
failures that occur along the way, your family's healthcare premiums,
the cost that you are paying every time you go
to the doctor, every time you're going to have an
elective surgery or or an emergency surgery, whatever it may be,
all of that is worse now than it was before
they passed to Obamacare. And you, with your tax dollars,
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but also more specifically specifically with your healthcare premiums that
you pay, are going to subsidize illegal aliens who aren't
even supposed to be the country in the first place.
That's happening. They can pretend it's not happening, but absolutely
is happening because the whole premise of this is that
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people are going people with more. You know, this is
from each according to his ability, to each according to
his needs, played out via healthcare, and it's a disaster
for all of us because it's not increasing. I said,
how do you deal with costs? How do you make
stuff cheaper, make more of it, make it more efficiently,
(26:08):
put more out there, do it better or you have shortages,
especially with something like healthcare. What they've really done actually
is incentivize people who have care to use more of it,
irrespective of the outcomes. The insurance companies get rich on
this because they have guaranteed customer bases now who have
(26:31):
no choice and no say. The whole thing is an
absolute mess. And how many people right now even know
about the dueling Senate bills And the Schumer bill is
going to just extend the affordable care subsidies. First of all,
isn't it funny? Notice a trend here. Democrats call it
(26:53):
the Affordable Care Act, and it has without question, there
is no counter argument here rooted in numbers, in reality, Okay,
it has made healthcare far less affordable. Premiums are up
one hundred, one hundred and fifty percent. You want to
talk about prices, that's something you're gonna be paying every month.
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That affects. By the way, the bottom line, if you
own a business or you work for a business, that
is affecting everything because you're expected to you know, you
gotta have this stuff or you're gonna go beaar and
then you're just gonna deal with the realities of the
healthcare system as somebody who's not an illegal alien but
doesn't have insurance but could have insurance, and the whole
(27:38):
thing is a mess. So what the Democrats want to
do is extend the subsidies. Yeah, it is the Unaffordable
Care Act. And that's the truth. Just like the Inflation
Reduction Act. Remember under Biden they passed the Inflation Reduction Act.
Didn't reduce inflation at all. If anything, it increased inflation.
(27:59):
And the whole bill really wasn't about inflation anyway, they lie.
It is straight out of news speak from orwell, it
is straight out of the propaganda playbook. By the way,
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of the book is about propaganda. Go buy this book,
Manufacturing Delusion. I really mean this. It is worth all
of you reading. And you know I would not say that.
People say, Buck, you've been doing this fifteen years, why
(28:43):
haven't you written a book before? Because I wanted to
write a book that I cared about. I was going
to write it. I had the time to write it,
and I had the ability to make the book matter
because of this platform, because of this radio show, the
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, which I share with
my main man who's up in the sky right now
(29:04):
on a plane. He's okay, but Clay, that gives me
the ability to have the critical mass where it's It
was worth the time because I didn't want to do
the like how I am defeating the Libs. Buck's way
to defeat the Libs and you know, and pay someone
else to write some book that I'm inno that hawk
And I'm sorry, you know, I don't call out names.
(29:27):
People do their own thing, but they're just saturating those
saturating the conservative book market with forgettable you know, slop
written by somebody else. That's what's been going on in
recent years. Just the truth, you know it. I researched,
I wrote. I put this book together because I think
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it matters. I think that the manipulation of minds to
political ends, the creation of mass delusion, the playbook to
do it is the scariest thing we face. Yes, COVID,
of course is a type or the you know, the
Pinnacle example that comes to mind for many, but there
are so many examples of this that play out. There
are so many aspects of this in our politics today.
(30:11):
People believe in all kinds of insane stuff, you know,
and we are increasingly in a world where, you know,
if you're not saying the most inflammatory conspiratorial people think
that you're like a sellout. Well, what I always want
to say to people is how often are we wrong
on this show? How often have I had to come
(30:31):
to you or Clay and say, look, we make predictions
and we like to joke around about that. Although a
lot of our predictions, you know, end up coming true.
So but but I'm talking about telling you something that
is fact or that we know to be true. Then
we go actually, or we're really we missed that one
in a big way. We tell you we we speak
(30:51):
to you on this show in the same way and
with the same respect that I speak to my closest
friends and my family members about these issues. Again, that
is our currency with you, that authenticity, that integrity that
we bring to the show. I do it and Clay
does it. And this is why honesce why we get
along so well on the air and off the air
because we are completely united in that mission. And yes,
(31:16):
it's the continuation, it's the the honoring of Russia's legacy
because Rush did that before. But that's what all this
is supposed to be about. It's not supposed to be
people who are just you know, sniping at this person
or that person with little things on Twitter and getting
all nasty with each other. And you're you're a fake,
(31:37):
You're a fed, you're you know, no, guys, the Communists
want to ruin the country. Do you understand they still
want to do this? And I know that we've had
a year where it feels like we're winning, but that
can change in the blink of an eye. It can
change in the blink of an eye. And then all
of a sudden, you want to talk about having a
rough go of things, A fractured right within, a sendant lunatic,
(32:01):
AOC mom, Donnie left is a very scary country for us.
So again, how do we get there? How can people
believe this? The book Manufacturing delusion? Manufacturing Delusion is the book.
Please go And I know you say, oh Buck, I'm
gonna wait, No, just go get it now. And then
February it'll arrive at your front door on the day
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of I'm also there. You can get the audiobook too.
By the way, I'm gonna be recording that in a
couple of weeks, but that'll be out on the release
date of February seventeenth. I really want all of you
to get the book, and I truly mean that. I
don't know if I'm ever going to write a book
beyond this. I don't know. This one took me two
years and it's not long. You can read the whole thing.
It is not a long book either. I think it
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matters and I want you to read it and you
can get There's a link up at clayanbook dot com.
But please go get the book, because, like I said,
this is the show. The things that we do are
supposed to have purpose, and it's beyond ego, and it's
beyond congratulation and a lot of the stuff that I
see going on with the right these days. We got
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to fix healthcare, we got to fix costs, we got
to fix inflation. We have to not just secure the border.
We got to ramp up these deportations way more than
what we've already seen. I know they're working on that,
but we have to stay focused. Now is not the
time to get into intramural squabbles and lose sight of
what really matters. And to that end, I will come
(33:26):
back and discuss the Abrago, Garcia and just the overall
immigration enforcement picture, because, like I've said, economy, it's going
to be number one the next twelve months. I'm telling
you this, economy and how we talk about it and
what happens is critical. But also, yeah, the border is secure,
what do we do about all the people who are
here illegally and what that has done to our system?
(33:47):
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Speaker 3 (35:14):
And they do a lot of it with the Sunday
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Speaker 1 (35:25):
Welcome back in. Let's take some calls. Susanna in West
Virginia wants to chat with me. Hey Susanna, Hi Buck,
how are you. I'm very good? Thank you.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
Look, I have a bone to pick with you about
Carrie's birthday two for one comment. I understand that it's
on Christmas. Yeah, Ever, however, she deserves to have, you know,
birthday present and Christmas present wrapped separately.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
But how can she know? Okay, it's the rapping. I
was gonna say, what if I just got her something
even nicer? But it was one, But she doesn't know
if it was gonna be two. You know what I'm saying, Like,
I don't know if how you can tell the difference.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
No, I totally get it. But look, you said your
birthday was after Christmas. My birthday's on the seventh of December,
and so it's you know, it's it's vital that she
gets presents wrapped in birthday paper, Okay, because people in
June they get birthday paper and they get Christmas paper.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Is there a difference in wrapping paper between Christmas and
birthday paper? I don't even know. This is a thing. Also,
I'll let you know, Susannah. My family says that I
have a special wrapping technique, by which they mean that
I wrap things very poorly, so they always know when
it's a gift for me. And I like to think
that it's the thought that counts with the wrapping. We'll
(36:50):
be right back
Welcome in everybody. Thursday edition of The Clay Travis en
Buck Sexton Show. It kicks off right now. Mister Clay
is in transit, so he is in the sky. I
will be your solo pilot for the next three hours.
My co pilot is on another plane. But we've got
a lot to talk about. He'll be back tomorrow. We'll
(00:21):
actually be together here in South Florida doing the show.
And in the meantime, I want to bring you up
to speed on all of the things that are happening
out there right now, so many of them, so many things,
so many things happening. You had DHS Secretary Nome up
on Capitol Hill, you have business leaders talking to Trump
(00:44):
about the state of the economy and this affordability question.
Some people are concerned, and I mean people on our side, capitalists,
reasonable intelligent people, concerned about how things are looking going
into the end of the year here and what it
will mean for the mid terms. Now, for those who
(01:05):
are saying the concern should be fix the economy, not
the political consequences of problems in the economy, well let
me tell you something. It's getting a lot worse. If
Democrats can throw sand in the gears of the Trump administration.
If they can play spoiler just by having a majority
in the House, we will get to impeachment number three.
(01:26):
It will be a circus, the whole thing. So it
is important that we get into a good place here
and also that the Trump administration continues to tell everybody
what the plans are more on immigration and ice enforcement
as well. We've got some important sound to share with you,
(01:48):
some some clips to share with you on that. I'm
going to start off actually with a little bit of
talk on the economy. There's there's news today that we
will dive into shortly about a Fed judge now saying
that Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the alleged MS thirteen gang member
who for over a year now has been at the
(02:08):
center of all these administration efforts to deport this guy,
and it's turned into a huge political football. This has
turned into a Supreme Court weighing in. God got sound
to al Salvador. We're gonna send him a bunch of
other countries, but then we can. And now you've got
a federal judge saying you gotta let him out right now,
(02:30):
So we will see. And that's going on while DHS
Secretary Nome is up on Capitol Hill, so that's certainly
in our sites and an important story. Let's though, just
for a bit here, talk about where we stand on
the economy. People are concerned, and I hear that concern
(02:54):
from many of you that prices are quite high. And
I understand the challenge here is it's really hard to
bring down prices once they've gone up considerably, and this
is a legacy of the madness of COVID. I think
everyone should keep that in mind. That many of us,
(03:16):
well not many, some of us. There were even some
conservatives who were pretty bad on the COVID stuff, especially
on lockdowns and all the rest of it. We're saying,
you can't just tell people stay home, don't do anything
in print money, and then you can't just spend as
much money as you want to juice the economy after
that shutdown. Unfortunately, that is largely what happened, and we
(03:39):
are still dealing with the reality of that. Now. I
will give you some of these details, or we will
discuss some of these details. But first up here CNBC,
this is cut eleven Rick Santelli. He's talking some numbers,
talking trade deficit. Let's hear from the man over at
CNBC play it.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Trade billance fit fifty two point eight billion. That's a
better lower trade deficit than we expected. We were looking
for a number closer to sixty two billion, and that
follows a revised minus fifty nine billion. Minus fifty two
billion would be the lightest going back to Wow, we're
really going back. Well, my records go back to nineteen
(04:23):
ninety two, and to find a smaller number than minus
fifty two billion, we're all the way back to June
of twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
So this is important because Trump is establishing a rebalancing
of our global trade, America's global trade with the tariffs.
And as I've said all along, you don't have to
be an expert in tariffs to understand that something is up.
When all of these other countries have tariffs on us,
we don't have tariffs on really anyone. And we're the
(04:57):
ones who can't figure this out, or you know, we're
we're the odd man out. But it's because we're so
much smarter than every other country, or is it because
we've been convinced by the globalist elite in our own
country that entirely free trade that does not take in
America first perspective. That allows all the offshoring and all
the stuff that we have seen decimate the American for example,
(05:21):
American manufacturing sector, auto industry, all these things that that
is somehow to our benefit. Well it's really to the
perhaps the stock price benefit of a handful of companies.
But people are changing their tune on this. They're seeing
what's really going on. But the problem is prices. The
problem is that stuff is still expensive and people are
upset about it. In fact, even here in my home. Well,
(05:45):
I live in Miami Beaches, you know, and that's next
door to Miami. I didn't even know this until I've
moved down here. Technically different cities, they're not part of
one city. And so Miami proper just elected Downtown Miami
elected a Democrat for the first time thirty years. And
it was a combination of two things that we're going
to have to really get right for the next year
(06:10):
for the purposes of the midterm election, but also just
because they will be central I think to the success
or failure of the Trump agenda in his second term.
The cost of stuff, particularly housing young people came out
Miami has become incredibly expensive as a City. It used
to be a great deal. I mean, if you were
smart enough to come here in two thousand and nine
(06:31):
ten and start buying up some condos, you've done phenomenally well.
Now not so much. But the price of things, especially
housing in Miami is very high, so that factors in.
We saw this also in New York City when you
have Mom. Donnieism largely built around the promise of bringing
housing prices down. He's going to bring the cost of
(06:54):
rent down. Now, if you know anything about economics, you
know that his solutions to these problems will actually make
things worse. But they sound good, and you can get
a lot of power by saying things that sound good,
no matter how bad the results are actually going to be.
One of the issues we're going to have is that
(07:15):
going into a midterm year, right, It's we're at the
end of year one of Trump's second term. Yeah, a
lot of us can point to the status of the
Biden economy and what was going on, but that is
not going to be compelling enough to win in key
in challenging races. Former SEC chair Jay Clayton had this
(07:40):
to say about the economy. I thought you should hear this.
This is cut twelve. The affordability issue is but from
the twenty two percent increase in prices in inflation under Biden,
there's this full stop right there.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
That's the affordability issue, and you got to be able
to explain that.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
And look, I think that with the economic team President
Trump and the economic team led by Scott Dessa, you
have people who very much understand us. And it was
a they were thrown You know what, I would say,
the worst economy for the average American in my adult
lifetime in terms of the like you said, the incredible
(08:21):
increase in prices at the household.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
This is true, and the case has to be made,
but it is not sufficient on its own. All of
you who call in, write in and say, hey guys,
hey Clay, hey Buck, this stuff is just too expensive
where I am, particularly healthcare, housing, education, these things are
(08:46):
just the price out of control in some aspects depends
on the product, but groceries. Gas prices are down, but
many of you and the truckers out there, we love
our truckers, are saying diesel prices are still considerably higher
than we would want to see them for a robust economy.
(09:06):
Spending at Christmas time. I've seen some of the data
on this one. Spending at Christmas time seems to be
quite a bit down. People are not shelling out the
kind of cash that they did, even compared to last year. Now.
I think there was tremendous bullions about the economy because
of Trump's victory. So that explains in part why last
(09:27):
year people were spending because they thought, oh, we're going
to have a good economy, and they were right. But
now it's too full. The challenge ahead on prices, affordability
a word I'm as I've said along, you have to
prepare yourself to hear about this more than any of
us are going to want to. But the power balance
(09:49):
in DC and therefore the future of the country for
the next few years is going to be largely determined.
I think based upon that the two big issues it's
going to be the affordability and immigration election mid terms.
That's what's gonna that's what's gonna move the needle. And
this is Republicans are seeing this early enough. Thankfully, I'm
(10:10):
not having this talk with all of you in August
of the election year or September of the election year. Hey, Republicans,
it's time to make the case. I think they're actually
seeing this in advance. And they have Scott Besson, who
is both very good at the job of Treasury Secretary
and a very good spokesman for what this administration, the Treasury,
(10:34):
the economy, the Fed, all of this is doing. He's
a very good mind, a very good mouthpiece on these issues.
But this is what Democrats are gonna hammer. They're gonna
hammer the discontent of the prices. Isn't this the most
classic move that the Democrats could possibly come up with.
They made it so prices get all jacked up. We
(10:55):
told them don't We said, don't do it. This is
going back to twenty twenty one, said don't do it. Guys,
it's crazy. Don't spend the trillions. We've already put a
lot of pressure, a lot of heat into the economy
with all the shutdown spending. And that was under Trump,
but that was both sides were saying, Oh, the world's
gonna end, you know, the whole thing. Trump left it
(11:16):
to the states whether to stay open or not, and
with the exception of Florida, states generally did not stay open.
South Dakota state open. But there's not very many people
in South Dakota. So that was easier. Most states shut down,
as you know, and so we had to do something.
There was that whole emergency. But now telling people that
the worst inflation in forty years started four years ago
(11:41):
is not really a winning strategy, right or in five
years ago, whatever, it's that's not enough. I think that, unfortunately,
is going to be insufficient as part of the narrative
which brings me to you the solutions and the things
that Trump and his team are trying to do. Look
at what has happened on Trey alone. That's why I
started with that. Look at where he is on tariffs.
(12:05):
They said, the so called intelligency and Trump's going to
crash the economy based on the tariffs. He's gonna mess
everything up. No, in fact, the economy, this stock market
has been booming, but prices have remained high. The only
way to bring prices down is well, if you want
to get really technical about it, technical about it, you
got to see a you can have a cessation of demand,
(12:28):
or you could have an increase in supply. But the
best thing that we could see is an increase in
efficiency of manufacturing of goods and services. And you know,
and spending and investment, and that's what will bring prices down.
Mandates the Mamdani approach price controls. Price controls not only
(12:49):
have made New York City and the whole state of
California but because of government regulation, but price controls in
New York City have made real estate far more Anywhere
where they try this, it makes real estate more expensive.
And overall, price controls in the economy is part of
what has destroyed a large part of what destroyed the
Venezuelan economy. I mean, there's many things, but price controls
(13:11):
is at the heart of it. Oh, we're just gonna
seize assets, and then we can't make this stuff. We're
gonna seize the factories, right, this is the Maduro approach.
We'll seize the factories and we'll make the stuff, but
we can't make much money off of it, and we're
not very good at making it, so we'll just say
it has to cost this. Well, that doesn't work that
way because you can't make them at that price. I
(13:33):
guess what happened. Shortages and then the black market comes
in with the real price. And all of this is
very well established. But the Trump team has to get
very dialed in on here is yes, talk about what
the Biden inflation was, and that's why I played that
se former SEC chair talk about what the Biden inflation was,
(13:54):
but also how it is coming down, how it is
being addressed, and how it is going to get better
over the next year because of what Trump is doing.
Republicans gotta focus in on this because it is not
an overstatement to say if we have a week year
of not just policy, but a week year of messaging,
(14:15):
and I'm gonna say, Republicans, where's the big legislation, guys,
the big beautiful bill. Okay, it's a spending bill. Where's
the legislation, where's the you know, the the new approach
to healthcare. Got to get together on this one and
make some things happen. If you lose the House and
you're Donald Trump, then it just turns into, all right,
(14:36):
we gotta wait for the next election. We gotta wait
for the you know, the heir apparent of the Republican
Party to take over for MAGA, because the Democrats will
just till they will what's the phrase cut off their
nose to spite their face. I mean, they will just
make everything stink and then blame it all on Trump.
And you know that. So economy, economy, economy, very very important.
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Speaker 1 (16:29):
Welcome back in here. We'll get into the immigration issue
in a second. I want to take some of your calls.
Uh Ken in Texas wants to chat economy and Trump.
What's going on? Ken?
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Good morning. What's on my mind is is that you know,
you guys are covering the economy and immigration and all
the other modern day issues on your show, and Donald
Trump is going around doing interviews as well as some
of his surrogates. But those interviews are only lasting about
thirty minutes to an hour and they're being edited. On
(16:58):
the other hand, for twenty five four hours a day,
seven days a week. CNN, MSNBC and their Democrat cohorts
are just blaming everything on Donald Trump, which is ridiculous
if you actually pay attention. But the z gen Z
and those and the ladies that actually are voting Democrat,
they get all of their information from CNM, MSNBC and
(17:21):
the View. So how do you counter that in a
year when they're spreading total misinformation and there's only a
few outlets like you and Fox News that are actually
covering real information.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Well, I would say what you're saying is all true, Ken,
but certainly don't despair. I mean, keep in mind Trump
is the president and Republicans do have the House in
the Senate, so we are capable of getting the truth
out and getting the messaging out beyond. And it's more
so now, I think, than it has been in a
very long time. The media advantage is much less. But
let me get let me get back into that when
we come back here to second, Ken, I think you
(17:55):
raise a very good point. How do we deal with
the narrative? How do we have a counter narra to
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(19:03):
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is Christmas, so I can do the two for one
on the presence. I'm just saying I got that going
for me, which is nice. And then my birthday is
a few days later, on December the twenty eighth, so
I will not be on air that day, but I
will be turning. I'm not kidding, I forget right now
(19:25):
forty four. I will be forty four years old, as
the gray in my little kind of almost almost appeared
is indicating I'm getting older. But I'm very excited for
the Christmas season. I've got my in laws here actually
right now, I'll be seeing more and more family, and
I'm sure many of you will too, and that's fantastic.
(19:46):
So on the one hand, I am in a really
good mood, and I think that it has been a
great year. I've had a great year. I've loved doing
this show. And we'll talk more about this next week.
In the last couple of days i'm live on the
air with you. Great year for this program, and we're
so thankful for all of you, honestly who listen and
who are with us through this. I feel blessed that
(20:07):
I get to do this show every day. I love
my job. There's no other job that I would rather
have than this job, which is an incredible thing to
be able to say. And I say that as somebody
who was asked at one point to maybe have a
cabinet level position in the government. I still would rather
do this job, you know, full stop. I love what
we get to do here. But there's a responsibility with
(20:28):
that as well, of course, not just to do the
best show possible, but to try to help help save
the country in what little way we can. There's so
many competing voices out there, and that then brings me
to the I keep calling it the food fight. You know,
there's all this stuff that's happening right now, and I'm
not even sure how many of you are aware of it.
(20:48):
You know, you haven't brought it up very much. And
I always tell you this. Your calls, your emails, even
the ones that don't make it on the air, the
team reads them, Clay and I read them. So we
haven't ongoing conversation every day. All the VIP emails, all
the talkbacks, and even if you don't get on the air,
but you call in and you talk to usually it's
(21:08):
producer Greg to come on live on the show. He
tells us what you were going to say, So we
know where you are as much as we can. And
we're always trying to be up on your thoughts on
how the country is going, and we haven't seen very
much of Hey, where are you on the food fight?
And you know, I really appreciate that, and I like
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it because there is a decency and a maturity in
this audience that is I think second to none in
the entire world of media, but also in it's certainly
in conservative media. I think that you are people who
come at this, this saving of the country, caring about
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the country with so much good faith and enough wisdom
to know that you don't want your time wasted on
petty non sense, petty nonsense. So and Clay and I
talked about this, you know, because we see what's going
on out there and we choose not to get into
the into the mudslugging and everything else. Some of these
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are people that are involved that we'd like. Some of them.
I don't even really know some of them. I don't
want to know. It doesn't really matter. I'm telling you
about all this one just so you know that we're
we're for any of you who are asking why haven't
you gotten into We're trying to save the country here.
And I don't say that to be grandiose or you
know what, We're trying to get as many people as informed,
(22:35):
as fired up, as engaged, and get more people. We
want more young people. We want digital audience too, we
want YouTube subscribers, we want you know, as well as
our fantastic five hundred and sixty something stations. Who's counting.
We are, But we want to focus on what really
matters here. And I just want to say, I think
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it is to your tremendous credit that you want to
as well, because we're not getting a lot of we
don't get a lot of chirping at us about well
what about this crazy thing that this lunatic said. You know, yeah,
we make fun of the left and the Democrats to
say things, but we don't. I don't get into squabbles
with people on the right. If you're on my team
(23:18):
for ninety percent or ninety five percent of stuff, you're
on my team as it pertains to policy, as it
pertains to saving the country. And I just think that
you give us the latitude in a leeway to continue
to focus on what matters, which brings me to we
are in a real fight here for the stuff that
is affecting you every day, and I think we're we're
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losing that, am I saying? We the Republicans are losing
a little bit of ground on this right now? How
many even new about this? That there are competing Obamacare
plans being voted on right now in the Senate. In fact,
I think the Republican one just right producer ally just
got voted on and failed. Now, of course that of
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course it failed, that's not the surprise. But they need
to be talking about what's involved here and now we've
got these these different plans. This is the stuff that
really affects your day to day life. You're talking to
me about prices. Everyone needs to understand Obama Care, which
(24:21):
was passed with a Senate supermajority. Right remember the disaster
of the McCain two thousand and eight campaign and a
huge recession, and you know, the Great Recession, all this stuff,
they had wide open, wide open pathway to slam through
whatever they wanted, essentially, and this is what they did.
(24:42):
They pushed this reorganization of healthcare that has really put
us on a glide path to single payer. And it's ali,
I shouldn't say glidepath. It's more like a train that
has gone off the tracks and is eventually going to
like implode, right, But they know that that's what has happened.
There's nothing gliding about this. It's not nice because the
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failures that occur along the way, your family's healthcare premiums,
the cost that you are paying every time you go
to the doctor, every time you're going to have an
elective surgery or or an emergency surgery, whatever it may be,
all of that is worse now than it was before
they passed to Obamacare. And you, with your tax dollars,
(25:27):
but also more specifically specifically with your healthcare premiums that
you pay, are going to subsidize illegal aliens who aren't
even supposed to be the country in the first place.
That's happening. They can pretend it's not happening, but absolutely
is happening because the whole premise of this is that
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people are going people with more. You know, this is
from each according to his ability, to each according to
his needs, played out via healthcare, and it's a disaster
for all of us because it's not increasing. I said,
how do you deal with costs? How do you make
stuff cheaper, make more of it, make it more efficiently,
(26:08):
put more out there, do it better or you have shortages,
especially with something like healthcare. What they've really done actually
is incentivize people who have care to use more of it,
irrespective of the outcomes. The insurance companies get rich on
this because they have guaranteed customer bases now who have
(26:31):
no choice and no say. The whole thing is an
absolute mess. And how many people right now even know
about the dueling Senate bills And the Schumer bill is
going to just extend the affordable care subsidies. First of all,
isn't it funny? Notice a trend here. Democrats call it
(26:53):
the Affordable Care Act, and it has without question, there
is no counter argument here rooted in numbers, in reality, Okay,
it has made healthcare far less affordable. Premiums are up
one hundred, one hundred and fifty percent. You want to
talk about prices, that's something you're gonna be paying every month.
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That affects. By the way, the bottom line, if you
own a business or you work for a business, that
is affecting everything because you're expected to you know, you
gotta have this stuff or you're gonna go beaar and
then you're just gonna deal with the realities of the
healthcare system as somebody who's not an illegal alien but
doesn't have insurance but could have insurance, and the whole
(27:38):
thing is a mess. So what the Democrats want to
do is extend the subsidies. Yeah, it is the Unaffordable
Care Act. And that's the truth. Just like the Inflation
Reduction Act. Remember under Biden they passed the Inflation Reduction Act.
Didn't reduce inflation at all. If anything, it increased inflation.
(27:59):
And the whole bill really wasn't about inflation anyway, they lie.
It is straight out of news speak from orwell, it
is straight out of the propaganda playbook. By the way,
great time to check one portion of Manufacturing Delusion. That
really the book is is in thirds. It's brainwashing, it's indoctrination,
(28:23):
it's propaganda, and it's stories and hit stories from my
life and history about these things. So the back third
of the book is about propaganda. Go buy this book,
Manufacturing Delusion. I really mean this. It is worth all
of you reading. And you know I would not say that.
People say, Buck, you've been doing this fifteen years, why
(28:43):
haven't you written a book before? Because I wanted to
write a book that I cared about. I was going
to write it. I had the time to write it,
and I had the ability to make the book matter
because of this platform, because of this radio show, the
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, which I share with
my main man who's up in the sky right now
(29:04):
on a plane. He's okay, but Clay, that gives me
the ability to have the critical mass where it's It
was worth the time because I didn't want to do
the like how I am defeating the Libs. Buck's way
to defeat the Libs and you know, and pay someone
else to write some book that I'm inno that hawk
And I'm sorry, you know, I don't call out names.
(29:27):
People do their own thing, but they're just saturating those
saturating the conservative book market with forgettable you know, slop
written by somebody else. That's what's been going on in
recent years. Just the truth, you know it. I researched,
I wrote. I put this book together because I think
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it matters. I think that the manipulation of minds to
political ends, the creation of mass delusion, the playbook to
do it is the scariest thing we face. Yes, COVID,
of course is a type or the you know, the
Pinnacle example that comes to mind for many, but there
are so many examples of this that play out. There
are so many aspects of this in our politics today.
(30:11):
People believe in all kinds of insane stuff, you know,
and we are increasingly in a world where, you know,
if you're not saying the most inflammatory conspiratorial people think
that you're like a sellout. Well, what I always want
to say to people is how often are we wrong
on this show? How often have I had to come
(30:31):
to you or Clay and say, look, we make predictions
and we like to joke around about that. Although a
lot of our predictions, you know, end up coming true.
So but but I'm talking about telling you something that
is fact or that we know to be true. Then
we go actually, or we're really we missed that one
in a big way. We tell you we we speak
(30:51):
to you on this show in the same way and
with the same respect that I speak to my closest
friends and my family members about these issues. Again, that
is our currency with you, that authenticity, that integrity that
we bring to the show. I do it and Clay
does it. And this is why honesce why we get
along so well on the air and off the air
because we are completely united in that mission. And yes,
(31:16):
it's the continuation, it's the the honoring of Russia's legacy
because Rush did that before. But that's what all this
is supposed to be about. It's not supposed to be
people who are just you know, sniping at this person
or that person with little things on Twitter and getting
all nasty with each other. And you're you're a fake,
(31:37):
You're a fed, you're you know, no, guys, the Communists
want to ruin the country. Do you understand they still
want to do this? And I know that we've had
a year where it feels like we're winning, but that
can change in the blink of an eye. It can
change in the blink of an eye. And then all
of a sudden, you want to talk about having a
rough go of things, A fractured right within, a sendant lunatic,
(32:01):
AOC mom, Donnie left is a very scary country for us.
So again, how do we get there? How can people
believe this? The book Manufacturing delusion? Manufacturing Delusion is the book.
Please go And I know you say, oh Buck, I'm
gonna wait, No, just go get it now. And then
February it'll arrive at your front door on the day
(32:22):
of I'm also there. You can get the audiobook too.
By the way, I'm gonna be recording that in a
couple of weeks, but that'll be out on the release
date of February seventeenth. I really want all of you
to get the book, and I truly mean that. I
don't know if I'm ever going to write a book
beyond this. I don't know. This one took me two
years and it's not long. You can read the whole thing.
It is not a long book either. I think it
(32:44):
matters and I want you to read it and you
can get There's a link up at clayanbook dot com.
But please go get the book, because, like I said,
this is the show. The things that we do are
supposed to have purpose, and it's beyond ego, and it's
beyond congratulation and a lot of the stuff that I
see going on with the right these days. We got
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to fix healthcare, we got to fix costs, we got
to fix inflation. We have to not just secure the border.
We got to ramp up these deportations way more than
what we've already seen. I know they're working on that,
but we have to stay focused. Now is not the
time to get into intramural squabbles and lose sight of
what really matters. And to that end, I will come
(33:26):
back and discuss the Abrago, Garcia and just the overall
immigration enforcement picture, because, like I've said, economy, it's going
to be number one the next twelve months. I'm telling
you this, economy and how we talk about it and
what happens is critical. But also, yeah, the border is secure,
what do we do about all the people who are
here illegally and what that has done to our system?
(33:47):
All right, two weeks from today is Christmas Day. That's
enough time for you to do something really creative for
your family. Hear me out on this because I know
Clay and I are saying, oh, gifts, Well yeah, but
that's that's getting somebody a leather belt for the fourth
year row. Not that anybody would do that, but maybe
that's happened to one of us. That's like a gift
that doesn't have any thought behind it. What about a
gift that has tremendous thought behind it, that brings you
(34:11):
to a place where you can enjoy cherish memories with
family members and also you enjoy the whole process because
it makes you think about it. You sit down with
your family. Oh look at this VHS tape, remember this,
this school play, remember this family reunion. Legacy Box, My friends,
if you have not done a Legacy Box before, this
is the year you gotta do it. Legacy Box has
(34:33):
earned the trust of over a million families. Clay and
I both have our families in that group. You have
them ship you a special shipping box from Legacy Box
where you load your videos, film and photos and then
you get it all back digitized new files. It's great
entertainment over the Christmas holidays. It's a really fun thing
to do. And this is a worth This is a
(34:54):
present that has meaning. So get it for yourself, or
get a Legacy Box for somebody that you know. Get
your families videotapes converted for just nine dollars during this
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Sometimes all you can do is laugh.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
And they do a lot of it with the Sunday
Hang Join Clay and Buck as they laugh it up
in the Clay and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio
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Speaker 1 (35:25):
Welcome back in. Let's take some calls. Susanna in West
Virginia wants to chat with me. Hey Susanna, Hi Buck,
how are you. I'm very good? Thank you.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
Look, I have a bone to pick with you about
Carrie's birthday two for one comment. I understand that it's
on Christmas. Yeah, Ever, however, she deserves to have, you know,
birthday present and Christmas present wrapped separately.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
But how can she know? Okay, it's the rapping. I
was gonna say, what if I just got her something
even nicer? But it was one, But she doesn't know
if it was gonna be two. You know what I'm saying, Like,
I don't know if how you can tell the difference.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
No, I totally get it. But look, you said your
birthday was after Christmas. My birthday's on the seventh of December,
and so it's you know, it's it's vital that she
gets presents wrapped in birthday paper, Okay, because people in
June they get birthday paper and they get Christmas paper.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Is there a difference in wrapping paper between Christmas and
birthday paper? I don't even know. This is a thing. Also,
I'll let you know, Susannah. My family says that I
have a special wrapping technique, by which they mean that
I wrap things very poorly, so they always know when
it's a gift for me. And I like to think
that it's the thought that counts with the wrapping. We'll
(36:50):
be right back
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