December 15, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of today’s Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show dives into a series of major breaking news stories and critical cultural debates shaping the global conversation. The hour opens with in-depth coverage of the terrorist attack at Bondi Beach in Australia, where a father-son duo targeted a Hanukkah celebration, killing multiple Jewish Australians. Clay and Buck analyze the shocking failure of law enforcement during the 20-minute shooting spree, drawing comparisons to the Uvalde response and highlighting the dangers of restrictive Australian gun laws. The discussion expands into the broader implications for Western civilization, immigration policy, and the rise of radical Islamic terrorism, with a strong critique of the “diversity is our strength” narrative and warnings about toxic empathy and cultural relativism.
The hosts also examine the Australian Prime Minister’s call for tougher gun laws, questioning whether limiting firearms ownership would prevent future attacks. They contrast Australia’s approach with America’s Second Amendment protections, emphasizing why armed citizens and well-trained law enforcement are vital for public safety. This segment includes a sobering look at how jihadist ideology and Islamist political movements threaten Western values globally, and why immigration policies must prioritize assimilation over cultural fragmentation.
In addition to the Bondi Beach attack, Hour 1 covers two other major stories: the ambush on U.S. soldiers in Syria by ISIS-aligned jihadists, and the fatal shooting at Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, where the suspect remains at large despite extensive campus surveillance. Clay and Buck raise critical questions about campus security and law enforcement preparedness in the wake of this Ivy League tragedy.
The hour also reports on the shocking murder of legendary Hollywood director Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle, allegedly by their son during a mental health crisis. The hosts reflect on Reiner’s cultural impact and the disturbing rise in family-related violence.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of The Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And a lot of news over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Unfortunately, a very violent and tragic series of events and
going to be defining this news cycle today. The terrorist
attack in Bondai Beach in Australia on a Honuka celebration
targeting Jewish Australians. We'll discuss what happened there, the government's
(00:30):
response to it, and what it tells us about, you know,
the issues that immediately come up, gun control, immigration, all
of it. Also an ambush on US soldiers in Syria.
Isis aligned here or al Qaeda aligned. I'll take a
look at what the specific designation is here shortly, but
(00:53):
jiehattis there we go. They killed two American soldiers and
a US interpreter. Also so was shooting on Brown University campus,
an Ivy League institution in Newport, Rhode Island. Brown University
obviously in shock after the fatal shooting on their campus.
(01:13):
And then another story that just broke in the last
twenty four hours, the very celebrated, widely known director Rob
Reiner and his wife Michelle were found murdered in their
Los Angeles home. With their throats slit, and it is
(01:34):
alleged that this was their son who had a mental
health crisis and mental health challenges. We'll discuss that as well.
There's reaction to that pouring in a lot of you.
I'm sure if you even hear the filmography that Rob
Reiner is responsible for. Yes, he had very left wing politics,
(01:54):
but he was a human being. He was a dad,
he was a husband and made some great movies, made
some great movies. So we'll discuss all the aspects of
this as it as it comes up in just a
little bit. But first, Clay, I was watching the Bondai
beach attack footage all throughout the weekend and I have.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
To tell you it's particularly frustrating.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
And I spent much of Saturday at the gun range
with my friend Shermichael Singleton, and we were just going
through tactical drills. And this is something that we do
mostly as of course a hobby, as a as a
sportsman's exercise, but it's also in case of need. It's
also training so that we are prepared and if you
(02:44):
have a situation like what unfolded in Bandai or what
happened on October seventh, I'm ready to go. Sure, Michael
is too in every sense, armed and trained. And I
bring it up just because when you watch the law
enforcement response in Bondai, it was very reminiscent of what
we saw in uvall day officers on the scene. You
(03:07):
had two a father and son team of Muslim jihatists
shooting up Jews. So I think the motive here is
quite obvious, quite clear. We don't have to spend a
lot of time. We may never know the motive. No, Clay,
we know the motive. We know right away. Hatred of Jews,
anti Semitism, jihattists, trying to kill Jews and anybody else
(03:27):
who was in the vicinity as well. They were shooting anyone,
but they targeted this Honika celebration thinking it would have
a preponderance of Jewish Australians, as it did. And here
is one of the observers, Clay, of this saying that
for twenty minutes, look, you know, fog of war a
couple minutes. You got to get on the scene. You
gotta know what's going on. You got to see you
(03:48):
don't want to hit any civilians. Fine, twenty minutes. For
twenty minutes, the cops lined up in Australia. This is
cut twelve and did nothing. Listen to this eyewitness, Can
you tell me what happens?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Two shooters, one on the bridge, one under the bridge,
just out of shoot. So twenty minutes they should should
change change your magazine and just shoot.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
See punderstand. Twenty minutes was four pm.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
There nobody give fire back, nothing cruse that could It
looked like twenty minutes and they should the guy change magazine.
I look at him all the time. I was with
two of my babies under me, and I look at
that and it's just where I felt, and a pistol
and just should.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
And should play.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
The Australian version is not better when it comes to
the ability to defend yourself. The Australian laws on this,
and I can get into the details. Leave you disarmed,
leave you helpless, and leave you like this man wondering. Oh,
the police actually aren't going to defend us either. There
was one brave, unarmed civilian who tackled and disarmed one
(04:57):
of the attackers. But I couldn't stop reading about it.
I can't stop examining it because I think, Buck, it
is just evidence of you and I and many of
us out there understanding this before. Frankly, huge parts of
Western civilization have not were in a profound war between
(05:19):
good and evil. And I couldn't stop thinking this morning
early when I woke up and I was doing my reading.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
This was a father son duo. You've got a young
guy that you're raising. Now, I've got a seventeen, fifteen,
and eleven year old boys. For those of us out
there who are dads, for those of us out there
who are granddads raising young men, this young man was
raised to kill Jews. I can't even comprehend Buck, the idea.
(05:51):
You think about all the things that fathers and sons
share in Western civilization, in a world that values in
and raises them into strong father figures. This was a
present dad in the household who raised his son to
go murder fifteen innocent Jewish people, starting at the age
(06:14):
of ten. I think these victims all the way up
to around eighty and the guns that they had, Buck,
this was them treating Jews as target practice. They were
legally able to have these six guns, according to what
I read, even though many guns have been banned. This
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guy with a twenty four year old the son was
on some form of watch list out there, Buck, but
it I've been to Bondai Beach. I was there two
weeks ago, two years ago, almost to this exact time.
I took my family, we made the walk there Sydney.
It's a beautiful place to have this attack happen and
(06:57):
to have none of the police or and you mentioned
you've all day and there. I mean, this is the
most public place out there, Buck. This would be like
I'm trying to see this like Samtage Clay. This really
hits home. This is a huge beach tourist destination. That's
like a wordiology. So imagine where you are at South Beach,
somebody walking around for twenty minutes just picking out uh,
(07:19):
and there's no police response or anything. It's a failure
of Australian society to me, from top to bottom, on
every level. This was so predictable, Buck. In Sydney and
inn at Melbourne, we have seen the number of anti
Semitic incidents triple and quadruple since October seven, twenty twenty three.
(07:39):
This was self evident that something like this was going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I actually crunched some of the numbers just so we
could have a facts of facts laid in conversation about this,
and I've been familiar with Australia's gun laws for a
long time. Australia had a mandatory gun buyback. Oh, by
the way, I meant Providence, Rhode Island is where Brown
University is, not Newport, Rhode Island.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Pardon me.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Australia had a mandatory buyback program after I believe it
was a school shooting in Tasmania, the Island of Tasmania.
Team correct me if I'm wrong on that one. They
had a horrific school shooting in Tasmania and then they
did a mandatory buyback program. Is anyone to guess, are
there are there more or fewer guns in Australian hands
now than before the buy back? The answer is there's
(08:23):
about twenty five or thirty percent more than before the buyback.
So the buyback program didn't actually mean there are less
guns in civilian hands in the first place. So when
people have this conversation and they say, oh, Australia has
a low crime rate because of the buy back, No,
that's not true. Australia has had a low crime rate
because Australia.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Has not been dealing with.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
The importation of third world foreigners on the same scale
as some other countries that have seen their crime rates
markedly increase as a result of it. Europe is a
very good example, specifically with Muslim refugee immigrants. You start
to look at the knife crime rates in the UK,
you look at the sexual assault rates in places like
Austria and Sweden. So I also looked at sexual assault
(09:05):
rates crimes in Australia Clay over the last decade. Does
anyone want to guess as the Muslim immigrant population of
this country from remember from war torn countries? Okay, it's
not people from Kuwait arriving in a private jet as
the immigrants. They're not kids who are studying at LSC
London School of Economics who then go to Australia. That
(09:27):
we're talking about talking about people that come from Afghanistan,
people that come from Somalia, people that come from name
a war torn Middle Eastern country. And they've had every
year for ten years in increasing the sexual assault rate
in Australia, and we're not supposed to notice, You're not
supposed to think that the worst sexual assault rate that
they've ever had since they carried statistics coinciding directly with
(09:47):
the importation of refugees has anything to do with anything.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Well, how long do we want to continue to do well? Clay.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Unfortunately you listen to the you know, the Labor MP
in Australia here Lola McAvoy saying, the real problem here
is all the Islamophobia that's going to come out of this.
It's we need to detoxify how we think about diversity.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Play nine.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I think it's important to note that so the escalation
of this narrative of who were against and how much
we we want to divide each other and how much
we want to attack each other, that is really at
the core of a lot of the problems that we
have in the country at the moment. And I firmly
believe that people are good and that given the opportunity,
they will look out for each other. And I just
(10:33):
want to say that as much as possible, we should
try and detoxify the way that we think of people
who aren't like us, because our diversity in this country
is our strength. And I firmly am on the side
of working together and celebrating our difference.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Clay.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
A mass shooting of Jews by crazed Muslims in Australia
and what we need is a lecture on diversity and
how the real problem is the as homophobia that comes
from this.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
That's a member of Parliament in Australia.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Yeah, diversity is not our strength because again this was
a dad who raised his son to go out and
murder Jews. We're in an existential battle between good and
evil in this country. And I understand some of you
out there are going to say, well, why should I
care about what happens in Australia. I hear this quite
a bit. I only care about America. The battle that's
(11:25):
going on right now for Western civilization is worldwide, and
they have the people who want to drag us back
into the Middle Ages. They've made a calculated attempt to
take advantage of lax immigration laws and frankly, of toxic
empathy to flood many different countries all around the world
(11:50):
that were built on Western civilization and try to slowly
take them over. They're in the midst of a generational
struggle where they are having more kids and they believe
they can start to take over many of these European
countries and turn them into assets for Islam. This is
(12:13):
the truth, okay, and I'm not trying to paint with
a broad brush. But in the immediate aftermath of fifteen
innocent Jews being slaughtered on the first day of Hanukkah
at the most popular beach, probably in all of Australia,
one of the top tourist attractions, I'm sorry. I'm not
(12:35):
concerned about Islamophobia in the least. And Buck, let me
mention this because I do think it's significant. When I
was there two years ago, she she she's a British
member of parliament. I guess she's weighing in on the
Australia whatever. It's the same, you know, the same country.
One's got kangaroos, same I well, I think also it
actually illustrates what I'm talking about with Western civilization. The
(12:56):
same response that happens in England is going to happen
from the left in Australia, in America. And it's all
interconnected here, certainly in English speaking regions, but in regions
that embraced Western civilization. I was so struck by Buck
when I visited Australia with my family. Beautiful country. I
loved it, and there are lots of great people there
(13:17):
before they did the national January first fireworks display, they
apologize to all the Aborigine people for stealing their land.
This was the open of their fireworks. We toured the
Sydney Bridge. We got to the top of the Sydney Bridge,
beautiful architectural accomplishment linking the two sides of the city.
(13:41):
The first thing they said was recognize as you gaze
out from the top of this bridge that we are
looking at stolen lands. That was the open of that tour.
This is an intentional goal to make white people, the
majority of those who live in Australia, feel as if
if they are the bad guys, and they are not
(14:03):
allowed to be proud of the culture that they have
created or Western civilization itself. And this is the actual battle, okay,
And this is why it's connected. October seventh. This is
why for those of you out there who say I
don't care, why should I care what happens in Israel?
Because Israel is the most westernized of all Middle East countries.
(14:24):
We should want more countries that look like Israel, more
countries that look like the United States, more countries that
look like in theory, Australia and Canada and Europe that
embrace Western civilization, and when you import people who hate
Western civilization, they raise their children to destroy what they
(14:44):
have been raised in. This twenty four year old, I
can't get over it. This is the culture that they
have created. This is the war that they want to fight.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Clay, We're gonna take calls on this one, but I
just think that we've reached a point here where it's
just getting harder and harder for anyone to hear the nonsense,
first of all, about gun control, as if this was
your sort. You have a country that they point to
is look at how good strict gun control is, and
then this happens, and then they just ignore it and
(15:16):
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(17:01):
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(17:21):
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who has been arrested in Los Angeles. Stabbed to death,
and he has a four million dollar bail. I'm surprised
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Speaker 2 (18:59):
So we're talking.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
About and sorry it's incongruous a little bit with the
or a lot the Christmas music, but it is the
Christmas season.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
So this is a news show.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Sometimes we're going to talk news that's very disheartening, very upsetting,
very tragic, and there's unfortunately a lot of that from
over the weekend. We've been looking at this terrorist attack
in Bandai Beach, Australia and Clay this is a reminder
(19:31):
of the threats that we face in remember Western civilization.
It's interesting Australia is on the other side of the globe,
but Australia is a part of Western civilization very much so,
and one of our sister countries of the Anglo sphere.
So that means that we can see what's going on there,
(19:51):
see what's going on in the UK, Canada, New Zealand,
and they are particularly culturally close to us and aligned
with us, and some when things go wrong there, it
means that things could also go wrong here. Rather, we
have perhaps the ability to see some of the mistakes
and missteps that they make and then look at how
(20:12):
we could avoid the same situation. Our Second Amendment is
something the founding fathers thought long and hard about and
included for good reason. Despite all of the nonsense you
will hear about this, despite all of the claims, I
saw some Democrat congressman saying that Trump wants more violence, actually,
(20:33):
and that's why he defends the Second Amendment.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I mean, they'll say anything.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
The fact of the matter is that their gun grabbing
just disarms the law abiding and sets us up for tyranny.
And this is why when the Australian Prime Minister comes
forward Cut eleven. This is the problem with statism, is
that the only response can always be from the statists
more state control, even when their state controls have failed.
(20:59):
Here's the Australian Minister saying they want to tighten gun laws.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Player eleven.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
The Government is prepared to take whatever action is necessary.
Included in that is the need for tougher gun laws.
And this afternoon at four o'clock, I will put on
the Exenda of the National Cabinet tougher gun laws, including
limits on the number of guns that can be used
(21:24):
or licensed by individuals, a review of licenses over a
period of time, people's circumstances change, people can be radicalized
over a period of time. Licenses should not be in perpetuity,
and checks of course, making sure that those checks and
balances are in place as well.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Okay, So as a as a gun owner who, in
all honesty, I was talking to my brother, I'm about
to get a couple more guns, so I mean, and
not having nothing to do this, I just mean I
want more guns, and I'm gonna get more. My brother
has I think twice the number that I have, and
that just seems like I need to catch up.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I'm at rookie numbers.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
This idea that you will make people safer Clay by
saying you can only have three guns and not five.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Let's just say just put that out there for a second.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
As if one gun is not enough if you're a
bad guy who wants to hurt a lot of people.
The Virginia Tech shooter, which I believe was the most
the most fatalities from any shooting in the US for
a period of time. I'm not sure you know the
latest numbers are, but it was among the certainly in
the top three or top five pistols. The guy effectively
had two pistols, the Ford Hood shooter pistols. You only
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need one or two if you're gonna kill innocent people,
and you can kill a lot of people. Let me
also point out a big problem here. You know we
talked about Bandai Beach versus South Beach, Clay. If this guy,
if these two jihatas start doing something like this around here,
if they're out just as they were, we all could
see the video. It's broad daylight in a very prominent
place with a lot of tourists, a lot of people celebrating,
just like what's outside my door here in South Beach, Miami.
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If somebody does that there, I mean, I know a
number of gun owners in my building, like we can
respond and would respond in a situation like that. Nobody
could respond here. So limiting the number of guns is moronic.
And then this pretense that oh if only we did
reviews Clay. Really, Australia is gonna review the Muslim guys
who want guns, and they're gonna say, I don't really
(23:22):
like what you're saying in the mosque these days, so
I'm gonna take your gun license away. They don't have
the stones to do it. They wouldn't do it, they
wouldn't catch it in the first place, and even if
they did, we've seen this in so many countries already. Oh,
I don't want to be offensive. Diversity is our strength.
Did jihadiser get guns too?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah? Look, I think if.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
You are Australian today, you should be looking around at
everything that happened and asking yourself, how did we get here?
And I think there are multiple different steps that were
taken that led to the place, but ultimately they all
come back to Western civilization under attack and how has
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Australia benefited to a large extent from this level of
this level of change inside of their country. And I
just think we're at a time for such significant conversation.
(24:31):
I hope that we're willing to have it about the
fact that we have opened our doors preying on the
innate goodness of all of these successful Western countries, and
we basically have rolled the dice that we are importing
people who want to live with traditional Western values. And
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when you see this guy raising his son to grow
up and killed Jews, I think that is a major
point of time where people should step back and say,
wait a minute, what have we done? And you can
say and it is true that this represents a minority
of the people that are brought into the country. Okay,
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that doesn't mean that it should still be happening at all.
And again, this whole idea that diversity is our strength,
I think it's one of the biggest lies we've all
been told. If you don't have a root relationship and
endorsement of Western civilization, then actually you're not showing up
to strengthen Western civilization any way, You're showing up to
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destroy it. And again being afraid to condemn radical Islamic
fundamental terrorism because you're worried that you might offend people
who are Muslim that are not radical terrorists. That to
me is just a further example of toxic empathy that's
being taken advantage of. I mean, in theory buck, this
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twenty four year old should have been this is the
argument right, that he should have been accultivated and embraced
inside of Australian society such that he would never grow
up and be willing to go out and kill innocent
people because of their religious faith. Yet whatever Australia provided
as a basis to counteract this toxicity did not work,
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and so this father came to Australia, took advantage of
all of the advantages of Australian life and raised his
son to grow up and be a murderer and be
willing to give his life. And this is important. You
know it because you studied and have been involved here.
This is in their mind. This father had raised his
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son to be a hero. His son is a martyr.
This is the bravest, most extraordinary act that he could
have created for his son to engage in.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
And what you're talking about, Clay, also is something that
is a context that has been lost. I've seen a
lot of people on the right, unfortunately prominent voices embracing
the plight of the Palestinians as though they're this it's
specifically in Gaza, this innocent society of people that is
being beaten up on by these big bad Israelis uh.
(27:23):
And that just shows an extreme ignorance of the reality
of what a Hamas ruled Gaza was like. It was
a terrorist state. They teach little kids in school, there's
videos of this, you can see. They teach little kids
in school they want to go out and kill the Jews.
I mean, this is a top down societal hatred that
is inculcated in the Muslims of Gaza against the Jews
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and against anybody who stands with them, and that existed
before October seventh. That has existed for decades. Some people
will say it has existed for many centuries now, but
that's a reality.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
That's what goes on.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
This is why people who have spent time either studying
or even meeting with, say Palestinians who have lost children
to jihadism by being suicide bombers, meaning that their kids
decided to be suicide bombers. Palestinian parents celebrate this. They
celebrate this like imagine a school shooter and in this
(28:24):
country and you go, we'll talk about the Browns shooting
in a little bit, and you were to go and
sit with that family, and the family said, yes, this
is what I raised my son to do, to go
into a school and shoot as many innocent people as
possible because he hated them and I hate them. That
is Palestinian society today in Gaza, unfortunately, or rather it
was whatever's left of Gaza.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
That is the truth.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
And a lot of people on the right who don't
really know a damn thing about the Middle East have
seemed to have lost this and talk about how terrible
it is that there's a genocide in Gaza. There was
no genocide in Gaza. There was also no starvation in Gaza.
Those were lies, and the virus of jihadism, which many
of us saw up close in personal in the GWAT,
is making a comeback. It never really went away. But
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you will see more of this and it's going to
raise questions Clay, exactly like what you were talking about
a moment ago. Are people who are Jihatis compatible with
Western civilization that ideology?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
No they are not.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Are Islamists people who believe in Islam as a vehicle
for politics in Western democracies, Are they compatible with Western civilization?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
No they are not.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
So diversity is very much not our strength when you
have people who are Muslims who think that Islamic faith
should be something that is used to govern and that
they should use the democratic process to put Islamic principles
to work. That is Islamism. And this is going to
be a big problem in Europe and it's going to
increasingly be a problem here unless we start to change
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the way we do our immigration system, whereby we take
in people who adopt our system want to be like us,
the American people, not want to bring their version of
something else here and then spread that.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
And these are real conversations that should be had. And
if you think that what just happened at Bondai Beach
is not going to happen here, we fortunately have reports
that there was a major Muslim tarror attack that was
scheduled to happen in LA and thankfully we were able
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to keep that from happening. But I think you worked
in this world, Buck, it feels to me like absolute
certainty that something similar to what happened in Bondi will
be happening in the United States in who knows exactly
what the horizon will be, but at some point in
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unfortunately the relatively near future. I would say that generally,
and we have the evidence to prove this, are cops
overall and overwhelmingly are like the cops that showed up
that day at Covington. Remember we saw that video and
they just went room to room in that house, clearing
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it with their M four's, and they eliminated the threat.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
That's that's most of our cops. That's a vast majority
of our cops. So I think that at least is
different here. We still have something now. It does bring
up also the gender differences among law enforcement officers, because
there were a bunch of female cops in Australia who
were cowering behind their vehicles and they were armed and
they did nothing.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
So that's what I think. That's an important conversation too.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
I would also point this out, they haven't had a
mass shooting in thirty years. How much training do they
actually do to respond to outing?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
These cops couldn't These cops couldn't hit the broadside of
a bar and Clay, I can tell you that right offhand,
the ones that showed up in Australia. We have cops
in this country. I mean, you know, I live in
Miami Beach. Just to keep bringing it back to another
beach community where something of this could happen. Our police
response time here is under two minutes for felts. And
I know the cops that are on the force here,
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and I know some of the guys from the squad here,
and they can shoot, and if they show up, they're
going to shoot. In fact, there was a hostage incident
here about a year or two ago where a guy
took a woman hostage in a store and put a
knife to her neck. Miaby Beach police showed up, eliminated
the threat, took him out with a headshot. So that
is different the UK Australia, they are trained to not shoot. Yeah,
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even a lethal force situations. God forbid, you have to
shoot a Muslim guy running around with a hatchet chopping
people up, You're gonna have your career iceed for the
next six years while they try to figure out if
you were right.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
And I know it's tough to watch, but I encourage
you to watch that video again.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
This is open air.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
This is running around at one of the most public,
famous places in all of Australia. It's South Beach in Miami.
It's Santa Monica Peer basically in La Right, a place
that if you go to those cities, you go to
that beach area because it is iconic and well known.
And these guys were allowed to run around with impunity
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for over ten minutes killing innocent people. I mean, it's
just unacceptable on every front. But the big picture question
that I think has to be addressed is Western civilization
is under attack and we are bringing people into Western
civilized countries that are not compatible with the values that
have made these countries the greatest in the history of
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the world, and we have to understand that we are
being taken advantage of.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I think this is a big deal.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Eight hundred and two A two two at A two
will continue to update you much less serious.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Well, actually this directly ties in.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Let me switch the read that I was going to do,
because it's perfect right now. Some are calling the Bondai
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Speaker 4 (35:07):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We appreciate
all of you out there hanging out with us, and
there are a lot of people who want to weigh in.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
As you might imagine.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Let's go to Jim in Boston because he's again it's
sliding under the radar. If the shooting in Bondai had
not been the only if it had been, if it
had not occurred, everybody would be talking about Brown and
Jim and Boston, the shooting at Brown University. Jim and
Boston has a good question.
Speaker 8 (35:41):
Yes, I was wondering if during the press conference people
were asking all these different types of questions and no
one ever asked the questions, especially in the press. Did
anyone shoot back at him?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Okay, thanks for coming up on the edge.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
I thought he wanted to know more details, and I
do think we need to jump into this in an
hour two buck, I believe they said there are eight
hundred cameras on Brown University's campus. How is it possible
for someone to come into a school building kill two people?
And we'll tell you We now are getting the names
(36:18):
of those two people. The manhunt is ongoing. They had
the wrong gun, correct? How is it possible that someone
could go into a campus building, fire as many shots,
kill two people wound I think nine, get out of
the building, leave the campus, and no one has any
idea who the guy is. And they went and potentially
(36:42):
detained the wrong guy. We'll get into that. We'll update
you on the awful story about Rob Reiner and his
wife Michelle being up murdered by their son.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
All that to come. Tough weekend of news Neck
Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of The Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And a lot of news over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Unfortunately, a very violent and tragic series of events and
going to be defining this news cycle today. The terrorist
attack in Bondai Beach in Australia on a Honuka celebration
targeting Jewish Australians. We'll discuss what happened there, the government's
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response to it, and what it tells us about, you know,
the issues that immediately come up, gun control, immigration, all
of it. Also an ambush on US soldiers in Syria.
Isis aligned here or al Qaeda aligned. I'll take a
look at what the specific designation is here shortly, but
(00:53):
jiehattis there we go. They killed two American soldiers and
a US interpreter. Also so was shooting on Brown University campus,
an Ivy League institution in Newport, Rhode Island. Brown University
obviously in shock after the fatal shooting on their campus.
(01:13):
And then another story that just broke in the last
twenty four hours, the very celebrated, widely known director Rob
Reiner and his wife Michelle were found murdered in their
Los Angeles home. With their throats slit, and it is
(01:34):
alleged that this was their son who had a mental
health crisis and mental health challenges. We'll discuss that as well.
There's reaction to that pouring in a lot of you.
I'm sure if you even hear the filmography that Rob
Reiner is responsible for. Yes, he had very left wing politics,
(01:54):
but he was a human being. He was a dad,
he was a husband and made some great movies, made
some great movies. So we'll discuss all the aspects of
this as it as it comes up in just a
little bit. But first, Clay, I was watching the Bondai
beach attack footage all throughout the weekend and I have.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
To tell you it's particularly frustrating.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
And I spent much of Saturday at the gun range
with my friend Shermichael Singleton, and we were just going
through tactical drills. And this is something that we do
mostly as of course a hobby, as a as a
sportsman's exercise, but it's also in case of need. It's
also training so that we are prepared and if you
(02:44):
have a situation like what unfolded in Bandai or what
happened on October seventh, I'm ready to go. Sure, Michael
is too in every sense, armed and trained. And I
bring it up just because when you watch the law
enforcement response in Bondai, it was very reminiscent of what
we saw in uvall day officers on the scene. You
(03:07):
had two a father and son team of Muslim jihatists
shooting up Jews. So I think the motive here is
quite obvious, quite clear. We don't have to spend a
lot of time. We may never know the motive. No, Clay,
we know the motive. We know right away. Hatred of Jews,
anti Semitism, jihattists, trying to kill Jews and anybody else
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who was in the vicinity as well. They were shooting anyone,
but they targeted this Honika celebration thinking it would have
a preponderance of Jewish Australians, as it did. And here
is one of the observers, Clay, of this saying that
for twenty minutes, look, you know, fog of war a
couple minutes. You got to get on the scene. You
gotta know what's going on. You got to see you
(03:48):
don't want to hit any civilians. Fine, twenty minutes. For
twenty minutes, the cops lined up in Australia. This is
cut twelve and did nothing. Listen to this eyewitness, Can
you tell me what happens?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Two shooters, one on the bridge, one under the bridge,
just out of shoot. So twenty minutes they should should
change change your magazine and just shoot.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
See punderstand. Twenty minutes was four pm.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
There nobody give fire back, nothing cruse that could It
looked like twenty minutes and they should the guy change magazine.
I look at him all the time. I was with
two of my babies under me, and I look at
that and it's just where I felt, and a pistol
and just should.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
And should play.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
The Australian version is not better when it comes to
the ability to defend yourself. The Australian laws on this,
and I can get into the details. Leave you disarmed,
leave you helpless, and leave you like this man wondering. Oh,
the police actually aren't going to defend us either. There
was one brave, unarmed civilian who tackled and disarmed one
(04:57):
of the attackers. But I couldn't stop reading about it.
I can't stop examining it because I think, Buck, it
is just evidence of you and I and many of
us out there understanding this before. Frankly, huge parts of
Western civilization have not were in a profound war between
(05:19):
good and evil. And I couldn't stop thinking this morning
early when I woke up and I was doing my reading.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
This was a father son duo. You've got a young
guy that you're raising. Now, I've got a seventeen, fifteen,
and eleven year old boys. For those of us out
there who are dads, for those of us out there
who are granddads raising young men, this young man was
raised to kill Jews. I can't even comprehend Buck, the idea.
(05:51):
You think about all the things that fathers and sons
share in Western civilization, in a world that values in
and raises them into strong father figures. This was a
present dad in the household who raised his son to
go murder fifteen innocent Jewish people, starting at the age
(06:14):
of ten. I think these victims all the way up
to around eighty and the guns that they had, Buck,
this was them treating Jews as target practice. They were
legally able to have these six guns, according to what
I read, even though many guns have been banned. This
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guy with a twenty four year old the son was
on some form of watch list out there, Buck, but
it I've been to Bondai Beach. I was there two
weeks ago, two years ago, almost to this exact time.
I took my family, we made the walk there Sydney.
It's a beautiful place to have this attack happen and
(06:57):
to have none of the police or and you mentioned
you've all day and there. I mean, this is the
most public place out there, Buck. This would be like
I'm trying to see this like Samtage Clay. This really
hits home. This is a huge beach tourist destination. That's
like a wordiology. So imagine where you are at South Beach,
somebody walking around for twenty minutes just picking out uh,
(07:19):
and there's no police response or anything. It's a failure
of Australian society to me, from top to bottom, on
every level. This was so predictable, Buck. In Sydney and
inn at Melbourne, we have seen the number of anti
Semitic incidents triple and quadruple since October seven, twenty twenty three.
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This was self evident that something like this was going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I actually crunched some of the numbers just so we
could have a facts of facts laid in conversation about this,
and I've been familiar with Australia's gun laws for a
long time. Australia had a mandatory gun buyback. Oh, by
the way, I meant Providence, Rhode Island is where Brown
University is, not Newport, Rhode Island.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Pardon me.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Australia had a mandatory buyback program after I believe it
was a school shooting in Tasmania, the Island of Tasmania.
Team correct me if I'm wrong on that one. They
had a horrific school shooting in Tasmania and then they
did a mandatory buyback program. Is anyone to guess, are
there are there more or fewer guns in Australian hands
now than before the buy back? The answer is there's
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about twenty five or thirty percent more than before the buyback.
So the buyback program didn't actually mean there are less
guns in civilian hands in the first place. So when
people have this conversation and they say, oh, Australia has
a low crime rate because of the buy back, No,
that's not true. Australia has had a low crime rate
because Australia.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Has not been dealing with.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
The importation of third world foreigners on the same scale
as some other countries that have seen their crime rates
markedly increase as a result of it. Europe is a
very good example, specifically with Muslim refugee immigrants. You start
to look at the knife crime rates in the UK,
you look at the sexual assault rates in places like
Austria and Sweden. So I also looked at sexual assault
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rates crimes in Australia Clay over the last decade. Does
anyone want to guess as the Muslim immigrant population of
this country from remember from war torn countries? Okay, it's
not people from Kuwait arriving in a private jet as
the immigrants. They're not kids who are studying at LSC
London School of Economics who then go to Australia. That
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we're talking about talking about people that come from Afghanistan,
people that come from Somalia, people that come from name
a war torn Middle Eastern country. And they've had every
year for ten years in increasing the sexual assault rate
in Australia, and we're not supposed to notice, You're not
supposed to think that the worst sexual assault rate that
they've ever had since they carried statistics coinciding directly with
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the importation of refugees has anything to do with anything.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Well, how long do we want to continue to do well? Clay.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Unfortunately you listen to the you know, the Labor MP
in Australia here Lola McAvoy saying, the real problem here
is all the Islamophobia that's going to come out of this.
It's we need to detoxify how we think about diversity.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Play nine.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I think it's important to note that so the escalation
of this narrative of who were against and how much
we we want to divide each other and how much
we want to attack each other, that is really at
the core of a lot of the problems that we
have in the country at the moment. And I firmly
believe that people are good and that given the opportunity,
they will look out for each other. And I just
(10:33):
want to say that as much as possible, we should
try and detoxify the way that we think of people
who aren't like us, because our diversity in this country
is our strength. And I firmly am on the side
of working together and celebrating our difference.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Clay.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
A mass shooting of Jews by crazed Muslims in Australia
and what we need is a lecture on diversity and
how the real problem is the as homophobia that comes
from this.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
That's a member of Parliament in Australia.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Yeah, diversity is not our strength because again this was
a dad who raised his son to go out and
murder Jews. We're in an existential battle between good and
evil in this country. And I understand some of you
out there are going to say, well, why should I
care about what happens in Australia. I hear this quite
a bit. I only care about America. The battle that's
(11:25):
going on right now for Western civilization is worldwide, and
they have the people who want to drag us back
into the Middle Ages. They've made a calculated attempt to
take advantage of lax immigration laws and frankly, of toxic
empathy to flood many different countries all around the world
(11:50):
that were built on Western civilization and try to slowly
take them over. They're in the midst of a generational
struggle where they are having more kids and they believe
they can start to take over many of these European
countries and turn them into assets for Islam. This is
(12:13):
the truth, okay, and I'm not trying to paint with
a broad brush. But in the immediate aftermath of fifteen
innocent Jews being slaughtered on the first day of Hanukkah
at the most popular beach, probably in all of Australia,
one of the top tourist attractions, I'm sorry. I'm not
(12:35):
concerned about Islamophobia in the least. And Buck, let me
mention this because I do think it's significant. When I
was there two years ago, she she she's a British
member of parliament. I guess she's weighing in on the
Australia whatever. It's the same, you know, the same country.
One's got kangaroos, same I well, I think also it
actually illustrates what I'm talking about with Western civilization. The
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same response that happens in England is going to happen
from the left in Australia, in America. And it's all
interconnected here, certainly in English speaking regions, but in regions
that embraced Western civilization. I was so struck by Buck
when I visited Australia with my family. Beautiful country. I
loved it, and there are lots of great people there
(13:17):
before they did the national January first fireworks display, they
apologize to all the Aborigine people for stealing their land.
This was the open of their fireworks. We toured the
Sydney Bridge. We got to the top of the Sydney Bridge,
beautiful architectural accomplishment linking the two sides of the city.
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The first thing they said was recognize as you gaze
out from the top of this bridge that we are
looking at stolen lands. That was the open of that tour.
This is an intentional goal to make white people, the
majority of those who live in Australia, feel as if
if they are the bad guys, and they are not
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allowed to be proud of the culture that they have
created or Western civilization itself. And this is the actual battle, okay,
And this is why it's connected. October seventh. This is
why for those of you out there who say I
don't care, why should I care what happens in Israel?
Because Israel is the most westernized of all Middle East countries.
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We should want more countries that look like Israel, more
countries that look like the United States, more countries that
look like in theory, Australia and Canada and Europe that
embrace Western civilization, and when you import people who hate
Western civilization, they raise their children to destroy what they
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have been raised in. This twenty four year old, I
can't get over it. This is the culture that they
have created. This is the war that they want to fight.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Clay, We're gonna take calls on this one, but I
just think that we've reached a point here where it's
just getting harder and harder for anyone to hear the nonsense,
first of all, about gun control, as if this was
your sort. You have a country that they point to
is look at how good strict gun control is, and
then this happens, and then they just ignore it and
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Let me update you on two of these and we'll
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far as I know, the Brown kill, that is, the
(17:01):
person who shot up a Brown University classroom is still
at large. They had the wrong person of interest. There
are cameras everywhere on that campus. We will talk about that.
But if you are listening to us in the Rhode
Island area, it's been several days since, but that person
is still on the loose. Rob Reiner seventy eight years old,
(17:21):
his sixty eight year old wife allegedly murdered by their son,
who has been arrested in Los Angeles. Stabbed to death,
and he has a four million dollar bail. I'm surprised
that they would give him any bail at all. We
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his sons. We will discuss both of those stories when
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So we're talking.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
About and sorry it's incongruous a little bit with the
or a lot the Christmas music, but it is the
Christmas season.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
So this is a news show.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Sometimes we're going to talk news that's very disheartening, very upsetting,
very tragic, and there's unfortunately a lot of that from
over the weekend. We've been looking at this terrorist attack
in Bandai Beach, Australia and Clay this is a reminder
(19:31):
of the threats that we face in remember Western civilization.
It's interesting Australia is on the other side of the globe,
but Australia is a part of Western civilization very much so,
and one of our sister countries of the Anglo sphere.
So that means that we can see what's going on there,
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see what's going on in the UK, Canada, New Zealand,
and they are particularly culturally close to us and aligned
with us, and some when things go wrong there, it
means that things could also go wrong here. Rather, we
have perhaps the ability to see some of the mistakes
and missteps that they make and then look at how
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we could avoid the same situation. Our Second Amendment is
something the founding fathers thought long and hard about and
included for good reason. Despite all of the nonsense you
will hear about this, despite all of the claims, I
saw some Democrat congressman saying that Trump wants more violence, actually,
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and that's why he defends the Second Amendment.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I mean, they'll say anything.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
The fact of the matter is that their gun grabbing
just disarms the law abiding and sets us up for tyranny.
And this is why when the Australian Prime Minister comes
forward Cut eleven. This is the problem with statism, is
that the only response can always be from the statists
more state control, even when their state controls have failed.
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Here's the Australian Minister saying they want to tighten gun laws.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Player eleven.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
The Government is prepared to take whatever action is necessary.
Included in that is the need for tougher gun laws.
And this afternoon at four o'clock, I will put on
the Exenda of the National Cabinet tougher gun laws, including
limits on the number of guns that can be used
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or licensed by individuals, a review of licenses over a
period of time, people's circumstances change, people can be radicalized
over a period of time. Licenses should not be in perpetuity,
and checks of course, making sure that those checks and
balances are in place as well.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Okay, So as a as a gun owner who, in
all honesty, I was talking to my brother, I'm about
to get a couple more guns, so I mean, and
not having nothing to do this, I just mean I
want more guns, and I'm gonna get more. My brother
has I think twice the number that I have, and
that just seems like I need to catch up.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I'm at rookie numbers.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
This idea that you will make people safer Clay by
saying you can only have three guns and not five.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Let's just say just put that out there for a second.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
As if one gun is not enough if you're a
bad guy who wants to hurt a lot of people.
The Virginia Tech shooter, which I believe was the most
the most fatalities from any shooting in the US for
a period of time. I'm not sure you know the
latest numbers are, but it was among the certainly in
the top three or top five pistols. The guy effectively
had two pistols, the Ford Hood shooter pistols. You only
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need one or two if you're gonna kill innocent people,
and you can kill a lot of people. Let me
also point out a big problem here. You know we
talked about Bandai Beach versus South Beach, Clay. If this guy,
if these two jihatas start doing something like this around here,
if they're out just as they were, we all could
see the video. It's broad daylight in a very prominent
place with a lot of tourists, a lot of people celebrating,
just like what's outside my door here in South Beach, Miami.
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If somebody does that there, I mean, I know a
number of gun owners in my building, like we can
respond and would respond in a situation like that. Nobody
could respond here. So limiting the number of guns is moronic.
And then this pretense that oh if only we did
reviews Clay. Really, Australia is gonna review the Muslim guys
who want guns, and they're gonna say, I don't really
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like what you're saying in the mosque these days, so
I'm gonna take your gun license away. They don't have
the stones to do it. They wouldn't do it, they
wouldn't catch it in the first place, and even if
they did, we've seen this in so many countries already. Oh,
I don't want to be offensive. Diversity is our strength.
Did jihadiser get guns too?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah? Look, I think if.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
You are Australian today, you should be looking around at
everything that happened and asking yourself, how did we get here?
And I think there are multiple different steps that were
taken that led to the place, but ultimately they all
come back to Western civilization under attack and how has
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Australia benefited to a large extent from this level of
this level of change inside of their country. And I
just think we're at a time for such significant conversation.
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I hope that we're willing to have it about the
fact that we have opened our doors preying on the
innate goodness of all of these successful Western countries, and
we basically have rolled the dice that we are importing
people who want to live with traditional Western values. And
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when you see this guy raising his son to grow
up and killed Jews, I think that is a major
point of time where people should step back and say,
wait a minute, what have we done? And you can
say and it is true that this represents a minority
of the people that are brought into the country. Okay,
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that doesn't mean that it should still be happening at all.
And again, this whole idea that diversity is our strength,
I think it's one of the biggest lies we've all
been told. If you don't have a root relationship and
endorsement of Western civilization, then actually you're not showing up
to strengthen Western civilization any way, You're showing up to
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destroy it. And again being afraid to condemn radical Islamic
fundamental terrorism because you're worried that you might offend people
who are Muslim that are not radical terrorists. That to
me is just a further example of toxic empathy that's
being taken advantage of. I mean, in theory buck, this
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twenty four year old should have been this is the
argument right, that he should have been accultivated and embraced
inside of Australian society such that he would never grow
up and be willing to go out and kill innocent
people because of their religious faith. Yet whatever Australia provided
as a basis to counteract this toxicity did not work,
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and so this father came to Australia, took advantage of
all of the advantages of Australian life and raised his
son to grow up and be a murderer and be
willing to give his life. And this is important. You
know it because you studied and have been involved here.
This is in their mind. This father had raised his
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son to be a hero. His son is a martyr.
This is the bravest, most extraordinary act that he could
have created for his son to engage in.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
And what you're talking about, Clay, also is something that
is a context that has been lost. I've seen a
lot of people on the right, unfortunately prominent voices embracing
the plight of the Palestinians as though they're this it's
specifically in Gaza, this innocent society of people that is
being beaten up on by these big bad Israelis uh.
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And that just shows an extreme ignorance of the reality
of what a Hamas ruled Gaza was like. It was
a terrorist state. They teach little kids in school, there's
videos of this, you can see. They teach little kids
in school they want to go out and kill the Jews.
I mean, this is a top down societal hatred that
is inculcated in the Muslims of Gaza against the Jews
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and against anybody who stands with them, and that existed
before October seventh. That has existed for decades. Some people
will say it has existed for many centuries now, but
that's a reality.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
That's what goes on.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
This is why people who have spent time either studying
or even meeting with, say Palestinians who have lost children
to jihadism by being suicide bombers, meaning that their kids
decided to be suicide bombers. Palestinian parents celebrate this. They
celebrate this like imagine a school shooter and in this
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country and you go, we'll talk about the Browns shooting
in a little bit, and you were to go and
sit with that family, and the family said, yes, this
is what I raised my son to do, to go
into a school and shoot as many innocent people as
possible because he hated them and I hate them. That
is Palestinian society today in Gaza, unfortunately, or rather it
was whatever's left of Gaza.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
That is the truth.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
And a lot of people on the right who don't
really know a damn thing about the Middle East have
seemed to have lost this and talk about how terrible
it is that there's a genocide in Gaza. There was
no genocide in Gaza. There was also no starvation in Gaza.
Those were lies, and the virus of jihadism, which many
of us saw up close in personal in the GWAT,
is making a comeback. It never really went away. But
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you will see more of this and it's going to
raise questions Clay, exactly like what you were talking about
a moment ago. Are people who are Jihatis compatible with
Western civilization that ideology?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
No they are not.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Are Islamists people who believe in Islam as a vehicle
for politics in Western democracies, Are they compatible with Western civilization?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
No they are not.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
So diversity is very much not our strength when you
have people who are Muslims who think that Islamic faith
should be something that is used to govern and that
they should use the democratic process to put Islamic principles
to work. That is Islamism. And this is going to
be a big problem in Europe and it's going to
increasingly be a problem here unless we start to change
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the way we do our immigration system, whereby we take
in people who adopt our system want to be like us,
the American people, not want to bring their version of
something else here and then spread that.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
And these are real conversations that should be had. And
if you think that what just happened at Bondai Beach
is not going to happen here, we fortunately have reports
that there was a major Muslim tarror attack that was
scheduled to happen in LA and thankfully we were able
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to keep that from happening. But I think you worked
in this world, Buck, it feels to me like absolute
certainty that something similar to what happened in Bondi will
be happening in the United States in who knows exactly
what the horizon will be, but at some point in
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unfortunately the relatively near future. I would say that generally,
and we have the evidence to prove this, are cops
overall and overwhelmingly are like the cops that showed up
that day at Covington. Remember we saw that video and
they just went room to room in that house, clearing
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it with their M four's, and they eliminated the threat.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
That's that's most of our cops. That's a vast majority
of our cops. So I think that at least is
different here. We still have something now. It does bring
up also the gender differences among law enforcement officers, because
there were a bunch of female cops in Australia who
were cowering behind their vehicles and they were armed and
they did nothing.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
So that's what I think. That's an important conversation too.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
I would also point this out, they haven't had a
mass shooting in thirty years. How much training do they
actually do to respond to outing?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
These cops couldn't These cops couldn't hit the broadside of
a bar and Clay, I can tell you that right offhand,
the ones that showed up in Australia. We have cops
in this country. I mean, you know, I live in
Miami Beach. Just to keep bringing it back to another
beach community where something of this could happen. Our police
response time here is under two minutes for felts. And
I know the cops that are on the force here,
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and I know some of the guys from the squad here,
and they can shoot, and if they show up, they're
going to shoot. In fact, there was a hostage incident
here about a year or two ago where a guy
took a woman hostage in a store and put a
knife to her neck. Miaby Beach police showed up, eliminated
the threat, took him out with a headshot. So that
is different the UK Australia, they are trained to not shoot. Yeah,
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even a lethal force situations. God forbid, you have to
shoot a Muslim guy running around with a hatchet chopping
people up, You're gonna have your career iceed for the
next six years while they try to figure out if
you were right.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
And I know it's tough to watch, but I encourage
you to watch that video again.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
This is open air.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
This is running around at one of the most public,
famous places in all of Australia. It's South Beach in Miami.
It's Santa Monica Peer basically in La Right, a place
that if you go to those cities, you go to
that beach area because it is iconic and well known.
And these guys were allowed to run around with impunity
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for over ten minutes killing innocent people. I mean, it's
just unacceptable on every front. But the big picture question
that I think has to be addressed is Western civilization
is under attack and we are bringing people into Western
civilized countries that are not compatible with the values that
have made these countries the greatest in the history of
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the world, and we have to understand that we are
being taken advantage of.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I think this is a big deal.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Eight hundred and two A two two at A two
will continue to update you much less serious.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Well, actually this directly ties in.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Let me switch the read that I was going to do,
because it's perfect right now. Some are calling the Bondai
Beach terror attack Australia's October seventh. People were out celebrating
the beginning of Hanik at one of the most iconic
beaches in the country prior to the attack. Social media
videos circulated online people singing, eating, laughing, and enjoying time
with family and friends. Videos have eerie similarities to the
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We appreciate
all of you out there hanging out with us, and
there are a lot of people who want to weigh in.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
As you might imagine.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Let's go to Jim in Boston because he's again it's
sliding under the radar. If the shooting in Bondai had
not been the only if it had been, if it
had not occurred, everybody would be talking about Brown and
Jim and Boston, the shooting at Brown University. Jim and
Boston has a good question.
Speaker 8 (35:41):
Yes, I was wondering if during the press conference people
were asking all these different types of questions and no
one ever asked the questions, especially in the press. Did
anyone shoot back at him?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Okay, thanks for coming up on the edge.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
I thought he wanted to know more details, and I
do think we need to jump into this in an
hour two buck, I believe they said there are eight
hundred cameras on Brown University's campus. How is it possible
for someone to come into a school building kill two people?
And we'll tell you We now are getting the names
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of those two people. The manhunt is ongoing. They had
the wrong gun, correct? How is it possible that someone
could go into a campus building, fire as many shots,
kill two people wound I think nine, get out of
the building, leave the campus, and no one has any
idea who the guy is. And they went and potentially
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detained the wrong guy. We'll get into that. We'll update
you on the awful story about Rob Reiner and his
wife Michelle being up murdered by their son.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
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