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December 16, 2025 61 mins

I'm Getting a Bad Vibe

Updates on the Brown University shooting, where speculation grows about whether the attack was a politically motivated assassination targeting Ella Cook, a prominent conservative and College Republicans leader on one of the nation’s most left-wing campuses. Buck examines eyewitness reports suggesting the shooter yelled “Allahu Akbar,” raising questions about radical Islamic extremism and why authorities in Providence are withholding key details. He warns of political spin and compares this case to past incidents where officials obscured jihadist motives, such as the Pulse nightclub attack.  Buck promotes his upcoming book Manufacturing Delusion, warning about the resurgence of radical Islam and the dangers of silencing truth under the guise of political correctness. 

Bondi Beach Police Response

Buck explores the police response failures during the Bondi attack, highlighting video evidence of officers—particularly female officers—struggling to subdue armed attackers under restrictive use-of-force policies. Buck calls for an honest conversation about physical realities in law enforcement and the dangers of politically driven policing standards.  Buck also investigates the attackers’ training links to jihadist networks in the southern Philippines, including ISIS affiliates like Abu Sayyaf and BIFF. He explains how these terror groups provide ideological indoctrination and tactical skills, drawing parallels to patterns seen in past plots against U.S. targets. This segment underscores the resurgence of radical Islam and the global spread of jihadist ideology.

The Lost Generation

In a major cultural segment, Buck highlights a Compact Magazine exposé on DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion), arguing that DEI policies have derailed a generation of professionals, lowered standards in elite institutions, and degraded quality in media, publishing, and Hollywood. He explains how diversity hiring became an explicit, racially biased practice that sidelined meritocracy, resulting in declining creativity and institutional prestige.

Name that Terrorist Group

Buck explores the broader terrorism threat landscape, drawing on his experience as a former CIA Counterterrorism Center analyst. He argues that radical Islam remains a unique global security challenge, contrasting it with other religions and dismantling the narrative around “Islamophobia.” This segment includes a candid discussion on why media and political elites downplay Islamist violence while exaggerating right-wing extremism.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Whether you're lighting a candle on the Manua or placing
Baby Jesus in the Nativity. We hope your holiday is
full of grace, wonder and.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Love and maybe even a little snow. Merry Christmas and
happy Honika from all of us at the Clay and
Buck Show.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome in everybody to the Tuesday edition of The Clay,
Travis and Buck Sexton Show. It is just going to
be me today, and I'm sorry to say you will
pick it up in my voice. I have a cold,
no surprise. I stayed out till ten pm one night
like a crazy man. Ten o'clock Eastern nuts. How can

(00:36):
you do that? Buck? Well, it was my Christmas party.
Now I'm paying the price. I have gotten the cold
that has been ripping around Florida and I guess probably
the Holy East Coast. And also we have Clay out
today because his uncle passed away, so he is going
to his uncle, Kenneth eighty four years old, a Vietnam

(00:59):
War vet. Clay's mother's brother sadly passed away. It was
something that they knew was likely imminent, but it's always
always so difficult when you lose a family member. It's
Clay's Mom's only siblings. So Clay is at the service
today and I am here helming the show solo. As

(01:21):
a result, we do have a lot of news to
get to. I apologize if my voice breaks at some
point when I'm talking about it, but I am going
to be hydrating with as much Crockett coffee as I
possibly can. Maybe I need to start making Crockett tea,
but that's something we'll work on. So we have updates
on a few things that I wanted to spend time

(01:41):
with you on the big stories, the Brown University shooting.
Secretary of War heg Seth responding to another strike, this
one of the Eastern Pacific think off the coast of Mexico,
Eastern Pacific, blowing up more of those drug boats that
can use. The border situation and the realities of national

(02:04):
security with an open border, A conversation that I want
to have a lot of people going to outrage level
eleven on Trump's comments on Rob Reiner. You know, I
don't know what they think they're going to accomplish by
making this a huge thing, but there's a lot of reaction.
This has become now there the anti Trump story of

(02:26):
the week. It seems is that Trump truth about Rob Reiner.
And we've got some Trump comments from yesterday in the
Oval Office, also on healthcare, on a whole range of things.
So oh, and I mentioned the Bondi beach shooting. We
have some updates on that for you as well on
the perpetrators of that. So we have a very busy show.

(02:49):
Something I thought was interesting, Look, there are a lot
of people out there right now who in the commentary
sphere who.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Have a.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Approach where they just say the most outlandi ish thing,
usually the fastest or the first, and then if it
turns out to be totally wrong, who cares. People paid
attention when they did, and then they just move on.
We try to do something different here where we do
forward leaning analysis. Will say, okay, this is where I
think something is likely to go, but here's the evidence.

(03:21):
Here is the proof. Here's my level of certainty or
lack thereof just essentially total honesty. I mean I speak
and Clay when we're here on this show together, I
speak to you in the same way. This is actually
how I was trained to do radio, going back to
when I work for Glenn Beck at The Blaze. Glenn
told me this his program director Don Theodore told me this.

(03:44):
They said, you are talking to a dear and trusted
friend that is radio, and that is what we do
every day. I talk to you the same way that
I speak to my brothers, who I talk to pretty
much every day, my parents, Carrie about these issues, right,
about these issues. And that means that when I think

(04:04):
something is you know, tingling my spidy sense, I'll tell you,
and that if it turns out not to be the case,
well then all right fine. For example, when I was
doing the terrorism analysis, and I've done a lot of
on air terrorism analysis in the past, particularly actually at CNN,
although Fox News as well, and in the immediate aftermath

(04:26):
of a terrorist attack, sometimes while it's even still unfolding
in part, I've had to say, this is what I
think is happening. And I've never been really wrong. I
haven't been always spot on, but I've never been so
off that I felt like, oh my gosh, I missed that.
And generally I nail it dead center of the bulls eye,
just saying more often than not that has been the case.

(04:48):
Something was worth bringing up with you yesterday, and I
still can't entirely verify this, but there is more pushing
in that direction. Something very weird is going on here
where the Brown University shooting. And just in case you
aren't aware, Brown University is maybe, for a quote, elite school.

(05:14):
And we're going to talk about this whole notion of
elite institutions and elite schools later on. An incredible piece
on DEI over the last decade and what it has
done to these places was written in a tablet magazine.
Incredible piece which I want to get to basically destroyed
the notion of these places are prestigious as a joke

(05:34):
now to anybody who's paying attention. But Brown University may
be the most left it's the most left wing Ivy
League school, and I think proudly so. And it's among
the most left wing universities in the country. Just as context,
So when you have somebody on that campus, Ella Cook

(05:55):
in this case, who was targeted and was killed, you
what is the chance this is a coincidence that she
is the vice president of the College Republicans that had
nothing to do with that. Maybe, And like I said,
if it turns out there's no connection whatsoever, well I'll

(06:16):
come back and say, hey, guys, we're leading in this
direction didn't report it as fact. I'm just saying this
is where the analysis is leading me. But Mark Halpern,
who is a reliable source in his media reporting, I
cannot think of a time, certainly in recent years, when
hal Pern face planted on something I think he usually is.

(06:39):
He was very good. He was the only left of
center guy who you only Democrat really who nailed the
Trump election, this last Trump election. I was telling people
for months, we were playing him on the show because
I was saying, see, he knows Trump's gonna absolutely destroy
the competition. But here he is saying that he has
been told. So again this is a little bit like

(07:00):
a game of telephone we would do. This is a
third hand source, now not even secondhand, but he has
been told that the Brown University attack was targeting Ella Cook,
a prominent conservative on campus. Play cut too.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
The people are telling me that the family of Ella
Cook the Alabama, a young woman who was a sophomore,
has been told that she was the target of what
happened to Brann. I have no idea whether that's true.
There's other theories about why the person did what they did.
But now that we don't know who the assailant is.
It's going to be harder to say. But if it's
true that she was targeted, that's a big story because

(07:35):
she was one of the most visible conservatives on that campus.
Don't know that it's true, But probably most of you
don't even know that that's being alleged because you'd have
to follow certain accounts on X or have sources as
I do, who are telling me that.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
So, like I said, it certainly would be very coincidental
that a prominent conservative and non conservative on a campus
that is also among the most radical left wing campuses
in the entire country. Doesn't They don't have grades there.
I don't know if you know this. I had an
aunt who went to Brown many decades ago. She wouldn't

(08:11):
like me saying many decades, but decades ago who went
to Brown. They don't do grades, and so it's a
it's a kind of a woo woo left wing place.
I bring that up only because not a lot of
conservatives there. Okay, even for a college campus, very rare.
So you're you're whittling down, you're looking at the percentages,

(08:32):
you're whittling down the coincidence factor here, piece by piece.
Then there's something else that makes me think about this.
The gunman said something. The gunman said something and the
Providence police chief this has cut. Five. Oscar Perez will

(08:55):
not tell the They're still looking for the guy. They
haven't found him. There's like photo of him out there
that they released is stocky build. They won't say what
he said. Five. There's a report.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
Shooter yelled something right before he shot came in. Could
you tell us what that what that was?

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (09:15):
Part of the investigation, John and Woolkee.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
The only reason I asked that though, is for instance,
like with the uniform, his brother recognized with writing, So
is it it's possible a friend or family member might
recognize if the person said something that was significant other
than the nine millimeter? Is there anything else inside that

(09:39):
electorium that you could tell us?

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Now?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
That's good Listen.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
Like I said, earlier investigations will bring us to evidence
that we need to collect in order to be able
to prosecute that. But with that being said, with that
being said, we're going to continue to collect evidence and
if he leads us to something to that nature, that's
going to be extremely helpful for us to identify.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Somebody will be the fresh ones to put it out in.

Speaker 7 (10:02):
The suspect yell life has been reported and some of
rone is reporting, But did.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
He yelling human classroom?

Speaker 5 (10:09):
And how valuable have witness statements been from those who
survived this.

Speaker 6 (10:15):
My heart goes out to the victims, he goes out
to the families, and I'll tell you that there there,
the cooperation has been extremely helpful and that without being said,
we'll continue and I'm going to respect the fact that,
and I hope that they get better. In my heart
and soul goes out to them. So that's something that's
something that we investigating. We took statements and we have
to confront next.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
He knows that they yelled something, or that the guy
yelled something. He knows he knows what was yelled too. Oh,
what a witness to the shooting who almost died himself
or herself is going to make it up, so we
know that something was yelled. Again, going into my is
this just a totally random act or is this a

(10:59):
targeted political killing? Essentially another assassination on a college campus,
because that's what targeting a prominent conservative on a left
wing campus would constitute. I don't know if that's what
this is, but I do know that there are some
things happening here that make me think that is increasingly likely.

(11:24):
Why can't he tell us what was shouted? This is
a bit like when I went on TV to talk
about the shooting of those two National Guard soldiers in DC.
I was told, uh wasn't confirmed, so I didn't want
to say it on the air, But I was told
by sources in the military that he yelled a lahu
walk bar. You pretty much know what you're dealing with

(11:45):
when someone's killing someone and they yell lahualk bar. Right,
So what did this guy yell? By the way, I'm
not saying it was lahu walk bar. I'm just saying
sometimes what they yell when they're shooting somebody is a
big clue as to what happened here and why they
did it. Why isn't law enforcement telling us? I think,
because it's very possible, I should say that it is

(12:10):
because they don't like what the implication is of what
was said. Providence, very left wing town, Rhode Island, very
left wing state Democrats run the whole thing top to bottom.
Do you think that the system there wants to deal
with the fact that there may have been a high profile. Again,

(12:30):
if this was the case, a high profile assassination on
a college campus of another conservative mere months after the
assassination of Charlie Kirk. No, they recognize the problems that
that would constitute, So we'll continue to follow this. We
don't have this the shooter in custody yet they still
haven't been able to find him. Seems like some level

(12:51):
of real incompetence here at work with the Providence Police Department.
But they haven't been able to find this individual, this shooter.
And perhaps there's you know, it could be it could
have had a personal grudge, you know, it could have
been for all it could be any number of things,
and I understand that. But I just as we move
along here, the delay from law enforcement in telling us

(13:16):
what was said, added to the fact that this happened
to be a prominent conservator on campus, it's certainly worth noting,
isn't it. And if we find out that my theory
here based on the facts, that this does come true,
as in this is where I'm leaning. I haven't said
this is what happened, but where I am leaning comes

(13:36):
to pass, and we'll know that they played political games
with this, well know, And that's why. That's why it's
worth saying this now so that you know and we
know that we understand what has gone on here, but
we have to see where the facts take us. We
have to see what the assailant, the alleged murderer here, well,

(14:00):
who was he and what was he all about? But
we'll continue to follow this because I'm starting to get that, oh,
they don't want people to know what really happened here.
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Speaker 1 (15:38):
Welcome into the second hour of the Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton Show. So first hour we did a deep
dive into the Brown University shooting and how indicators are
looking like this is a political assassination and there are
things pointing in the direction of an Islamist jihadist ideology

(16:04):
behind you that is not confirmed. That is just where
the facts currently are pointing could change, just like how
they arrested the wrong suspect and the guy had nothing
to do with it right. Things change, we tell you,
but we already know for sure that the Bandai Beach attack,
which occurred over the weekend, I believe fifteen were killed

(16:25):
in that the Bandai Beach attack was definitely jihadism, definitely
Islamic radicalism. One thing that's always interesting to note about
Islamic radicals, they don't think that they're radicals. They just
think they're the real ones, the real Muslims. They always
say it. In fact, they and al Qaeda did this,

(16:48):
has done this a number of times. And this really
came to prominence in the earlier phase of the g WATT,
the Global War on Terror, when Abu Musab al Zarkawi
and Aqi al Qaeda in Iraq, which actually broke away
from al Qaeda proper, and al Qaeda thought that Aqui
was being too violent believe it or not, toward Muslims

(17:12):
because Zarkai was a psychopath, I mean, he was a Sadist,
and there was a sense that they were killing too
many non belief sorry, too many Muslims who were just
not good enough Muslims. This is the tough theory doctrine,
you know, so you are cast out if you are
tough feared. So we've seen We've seen that before as well.

(17:38):
Here in this case, you have these Muslims attacking Jews,
and that is not, unfortunately a surprise or a rarity
in these kinds of attacks target and Jews at a
Honka celebration, and it is it is very obvious. These

(17:58):
guys had isis flat at home as a father and
son team. The father was killed, the son is in
the hospital with wounds. It was a father and son team.
They wanted to kill as many people as possible. I
have a few things I want to talk about with this.
One is the police response, and then also a little
bit about the training and possible support that these guys got.

(18:22):
But the police response was abysmal. The police station was close,
police station was not far away at all, and police
were able to get there very quickly. The problem is
the police were useless. At least some of the police
who arrived, a number of them on video unfortunately caught

(18:42):
on video for them were female officers who were completely
useless and did nothing. You know, this is where there's
a whole conversation to be had about the role of
women in law enforcement. Now, there are some great female
cops out there. I don't want you all calling in
right now and yelling at me. But in an era

(19:04):
where we are increasingly told that cops are not allowed
to use lethal force except in the most clear cut circumstances,
but have to use force meaning wrestle, meaning you know,
use their their arms and maybe their knees to do
takedowns and stuff, women are at a disadvantage. It's just true.

(19:26):
It's obvious women are at a disadvantage. And if I'm
a bad guy and a female, you know, and a
guy gets out of the car and then a woman
gets out of the car, I know which one I'm
gonna try to wrestle and maybe get a gun from first. Obviously,
can we just speak about these things as though we
all know what's going on, because that's what's happening. So

(19:49):
that is true. Doesn't mean that there's not a role
for them in a law enforcement I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying we need to stop living in this
fantasy that is pushed on us by the media and
by Hollywood where one hundred and twenty pound women with
the right you know, jiu jitsu lock are going to
be able to wrestle. No false wrong. They can shoot somebody,

(20:10):
for sure, you have a much better chance of arguing
of telling me, well, look, they can shoot. Just by
the way, there are a lot of women who shoot
the flies off off a gnat at one hundred yards,
way better shots than me. I'm not a great shot
at all. I'm not disparaging women's ability to shoot it all.
But I'm just saying, if you're telling people in law
enforcement don't shoot unless you have absolutely no choice, you

(20:31):
got to try to wrestle the suspect. You've got to
try to get the knife out of his hand. Yet
women are at a disadvantage. Women are at a disadvantage
just the way it is. And notice how for some
of you that's gonna and maybe even some of the
female law enforcement listening that might trigger people a little bit.
That might be a little It's true. We have to
say what's true. This is obvious. Just like I was

(20:54):
saying in the last hour, Radical Islam is the biggest
problem when it comes to terrorism and people try to
undermine civilization through violence and a theocratic totalitarianism, by far
the biggest problem in the world of that type. Nothing
else even close. So again, we say the things that
we know to be true. So the police response was

(21:16):
abysmal and now they're saying that they're going to get
This is the New South Wales premiere. That's a state
in province I guess, or whatever they call them. They're
in Australia saying they're going to get the toughest gun
laws play twenty nine. Please do we have cut twenty nine.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Our approach to this terrible crime in New South Wales
is multifaceted, but I want to make it clear that
our efforts to firstly work with the New South Wales
Police on counter terrorism efforts continue. Secondly, fighting anti Semitism
in our community, which will not be done in a week.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Or a month.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
That's a low, long term, important project for the Government
of New South Wales working with civic leaders and the
people of this state. Thirdly, gun law reform in New
South Wales, with legislation brought into the New South Wales
Parliament to make gun laws tougher in this state. I'm
determined to bring in the toughest gun laws in Australia

(22:21):
and they'll be significantly tightened in New South Wales.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
How are you going to tighten How are you going
to make gun laws tougher. Someone explained that to me,
and how would that have stopped this? There are millions
of guns in circulation currently in Australi. You're gonna do
another buyback, a buyback that resulted in even more guns
in circulation. This is an absurdity. And if you're wondering

(22:47):
how absurd it is, think about this. It's not like
these guys couldn't have pulled this off, or even something
far worse without guns at all. The problem is the person. Okay,
the problem is the terrorist. These Raeli I have understood
this for a long time with their security practices. It's
not about a tool. A gun is a tool. The

(23:08):
problem is somebody who thinks to himself, I'm going to
find people of a religion that I hate because I've
largely been trained by my culture and my ideology to
hate them, and I'm going to try to get them
when they are absolutely helpless and when they're supposed to
be having joy and be with family, and I'm going
to murder as many of them as possible, because I

(23:28):
have convinced myself, in some demonic inversion of morality, that
that is a righteous thing to do the problem is
that person right. The problem is that jihadist in this instance,
and they could have done this very very much using vehicles,

(23:50):
and that has been done in the past with far
worse casualties than what we saw here. I might add,
so what are you gonna do. You're gonna have car
You're gonna have further car restrictions. You have these gun restrictions.
They could build a bomb, or they could do what
they've done in the UK and so many other places,
run around stabbing people. You get somebody who you know
is crazy enough and gets a big kitchen knife, they

(24:11):
can kill ten people before the cops can do anything
about it. And that's with a knife. In the UK,
they're so silly, so unseerious on security matters that they're
talking about banning knives. That's great. Everyone's gonna be sitting there,
you know, chopping up their steak with spoons. We can't
make these kinds of concessions to the barbarians. We can't

(24:32):
decide that our own society doesn't get. And this brings
me right into the Second Amendment. In this country, the
bad people, the demons, don't get to decide how I
live my life or how I defend myself. They don't
get that vote, and unfortunately in Australia it seems increasing
they want to give the demons that vote. They want

(24:52):
to give the evildoers that capability. Now, these guys, it
seems also very likely we're trained up by a Jihatis group.
Some of you saw there's video making the rounds. The
guy does maneuver his you know, he maneuvers in the
reloading of his rifle with with some some efficiency. This
isn't like ninja stuff. It doesn't take years and years

(25:15):
of practice. You know, you get you get enough time
out of range. Anybody can learn to reload and fire
a rifle, especially innocent old ladies and kids walking around.
This isn't This isn't something that requires some hard to
come by skill set. But you're gonna see more about this.
It looks like these guys trained in the Southern Philippines

(25:39):
and that brings us to yet another realm of jihadism
separate than separate from the Moro Islamic Liberation Front. People
will probably talk about that because it's the m I
l F. Yes, the MILF terrorist group. The MILF had
a essentially a negotiated end with the Philippine government. So

(26:08):
it's actually offshoots of the MILF. The MILF was about
a separate It is really a separatist group more than
anything else. The ones that you have to look for
now are the Islamic State affiliate in the area, the
Abu Sayf group, they've been doing terrible things for a
long time. The Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters, the BIFF, their

(26:32):
breakaway from the MILF. So there are these Jihannist entities
that operate in the southern Philippines. So that is that
is where these guys had traveled recently. According to Australian police,
spent most of November in the Philippines. This has been
confirmed by the way Quote. It remains unclear what they

(26:55):
were doing there. I don't think it's going to be
that unclear for long. Their final destination was Devow, a
city on the southern island of Mindan Now. Isis troops
held the siege in a different city on Mindan Now
in twenty seventeen. This is a hotbed of Islamic radicalism.

(27:19):
I can tell you that when we used to do
the Sea counta terrorism work in New York, a lot
of the bad guys who wanted to blow up the
subways or blow up a synagogue, and those are usually
what the plots are, just kill a lot of people
in Central Park or Times Square. They interestingly, you know,
I've spent some time in either Pakistan's tribal areas or Yemen,

(27:41):
which is basically one giant tribal area before they engaged
in their attack. And then we would find out, oh,
they were trained, and they got spiritual sanctioning, they got
ideological affirmation, if you will, from the Jihatis in there,
and the blessing of that Chihatis group to go kill
a bunch of innocent people. So another instance, another instance

(28:06):
where we have gee hottish terrorism and the left doesn't
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All right, welcome back in here. A little throwback moment
as we're doing a lot of terrorism analysis. And one
of the reasons I get so passionate about this is
that for years I was so shall we say, swimming
upstream because I was sane and because I knew what
I was talking about, and I would go on places
including CNN, MSNBC had me on to debate. You can

(30:00):
probably find this the archives too. It was actually Glenn Greenwald.
They had me on one time to debate, and that
was it. That was never invited back we were debating radical Islam.
I think Glenn and I actually would see eye to
eye on a whole range of free speech issues today.
So but on this issue, on the issue of radical Islam,

(30:21):
mister Greenwald and I are in still firm disagreement. But
I don't think I think they thought they looked at
me to like this guy, what knny really? You know
what I mean, Let's let's let's fullay him like a
fish on TV. And this fish had some tricks. He
could flop around a little bit in the boat. He
knew what he was doing. But to that end. Also
over at CNN. Over at CNN, this is on the

(30:45):
day of the Nice terror attack, which I always anytime
someone says it's about gun control. The Nice terror attack
involved a truck. It killed eighty six people, fifteen children Injure,
four hundred and fifty people. It was a rented truck. Okay,

(31:08):
this guy rented a truck and killed eighty six people
and wounded hundreds. Didn't need a gun, didn't need a bomb.
And this was an Islamic state attack. And this was
on you know, Bestide Day is a big deal in France.
It's not their independence Day. Actually it's different. It's like
the storming of the Bastide the French Revolution, which you

(31:28):
know didn't go so well. But conversation for another time.
But this is from that day. So I was on
this panel, and I am not kidding what I tell you.
This is twenty sixteen, this is ten years ago. Now
I'm on this panel and they're all blaming the French.
There's like four or five other guests. I mean, I'm
going on memory now. I haven't seen the video myself.

(31:49):
I'm just I know the team pulled it up, but
they have like four other guests, I think, and they're
all like, Oh, this is what happens when you don't assimilate.
I'm like, what we really have to figure out here
is why aren't we making the Muslim minority in France
more comfortable? I'm like, more comfortable. One of them just
killed almost one hundred people with a truck on the
national holiday. The hell is wrong with you people? Anyway,

(32:12):
you can get a little flavor of that. I mean,
this was a whole seven rate min a long segment,
but here's a little bit of the exchange with some
third tier academic who's like, I'm going to explain terrorism
to Buck. Play it.

Speaker 9 (32:23):
The degree of right wing politics Islamophobia. And I do
disagree with mister Sexton because the fact is, and I'll
say this to you Buck directly, the vast majority of
Isis's victims are Muslim, not us.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
I'm not aware, fully aware of that. I mean, well,
say they're.

Speaker 9 (32:42):
Coming after us, They're not coming after us.

Speaker 7 (32:45):
More than that, I was referring to the Islamic State,
which very clearly through his external operations arm, which has
been at work, by the way, for a number of
years now, along with Alcadae Arabian Peninsula, which until recently
was considered the most virulent and deadly of the gee
hottest terrorist organizations for this kind of external plotting. They're
continuing to do this. Of course, they're killing Muslims, are
killing Muslims in Turkey, in Saudi Arabia, in Iraq.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
I'm actually I've actually seen some of.

Speaker 7 (33:07):
The handiwork of what they've done in places like Iraq
and Afghanisa.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
So this is to pretend about But the people who
are doing it, they can consider themselves Muslim as well,
even though the victims are Muslim.

Speaker 7 (33:19):
I'm not getting into a theological discussion. I'm trying to
just focus on the counter terrorists.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
What she's saying.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
She's saying that the people who are it's being perpetrated
against their Muslim but the attackers can be Muslim as well.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
But I have to say, I don't understand why that's
being directed at me. By no means that I say
that wasn't the case or it wasn't true. So I
don't understand why that's being directed to me. I'm merely
saying they're coming after us, Yes, are in fact coming
after us. When need to sit.

Speaker 7 (33:41):
Here talking about after each other, America and Europe and
the West and all peaceful Muslims and everyone around the
world who doesn't believe it's drapping the suicide vest on
because you were disaffected, because you have some belief that
somehow this will take you to a place of paradise
in vergins, whatever the case may be. Everybody who isn't
on that team is on my team. This notion you

(34:03):
have in your head that when I say aweso, I'm
referring to what Republican Americans I was in the CIA,
I was working with foreign allies all over the world
to try and stop.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
These kinds of attacks.

Speaker 7 (34:16):
If it was an implication, that's preposterous. And I have
to be honest with you. After this sort of an
attack happens, there is this knee jerk reaction that we
see from people who are centered to left of center,
constantly trying to sort of wrap all this around the
bad rhetoric of people who want to speak openly and
honestly about terrorism. We're just trying to empower the moderates
from the Muslim societies. We're trying to empower our allies
and countries that we do work with in the Muslim

(34:37):
world and outside the Muslim world, to stop people from
getting mowed down at a celebration of a national holiday.

Speaker 9 (34:43):
That's it, which include other Muslims.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
I've said that four or five times already. Okay, we're
getting off track here, we are getting off the track.
Thank you nice yet, moron. That guy's are honestly a
true dumbass. And I would say it to his face
right now over I care less. He is a dumbass. Really.
The fact that CNN gave him his own show as
long as they did is appalling. And he's a baby too,

(35:06):
He's an unprofessional. He's a baby's childish uh and and
dumb so and anyway, it's a little thirty Notice those
a little back and forth. He's trying to get it
back to we really just want to talk about is Lamophobia.
This was within hours of eighty six people being mowed
down by a truck, and we didn't even play some
of the other people all the throat clearing about oh

(35:26):
or this is really about you know, we don't want
to single out Islam or whatever. It was like that,
that's your takeaway that the big problem we face is,
you know, this is the the the I mean, he
did some great stuff. Norm McDonald did some great stuff.
I think though maybe his all time great is that
the real threat is that they're going to detonate a

(35:47):
nuclear bomb in American City and just think of all
the Islamophobia that will happen, because that really just gets
to the core of this of this insanity. It's like
it's like a death wish from within our own society.
The problem isn't the terrorists, whether it's in Bandai, or
it's on Brown University campus, or it's you know, at
the Covington School, or it's in Iraq, or it's the

(36:10):
problem or not the enemies of civilization. The problem is
the people who are trying to stop them, and everything
we do to stop them, somehow either justifies them or
makes them worse. This we saw in Gaza too. Look
at Israel with Gaza October seventh. Everything Israel does is terrible,
it's bad at genocide according to some people, and it's

(36:30):
making the problem worse. You're creating future generations of suicide bombers.
Trust me, they love Gaza suicide bombers plenty before October
seventh happened, and before the Israeli response, Gaza the Palestinians
have been celebrating that stuff for as long as I
have been alive. They're not celebrating you know, they're great
math scores on the testing there. I gotta tell you,

(36:50):
they're not celebrating all the achievements they're making in the sciences.
But suicide bombers they got a lot of time to
celebrate that. It's just true. And so why do you think,
now we have all all these do you think it's
just the mayor of Providence. I'm sorry, not the mayor,
the police chief of Providence, who doesn't want to say
what has already been reported by eyewitnesses that this guy
was yelling alha walk bar No, it's his boss. The

(37:13):
mayor probably got a call from whatever, you know, democrat?
Third rate clown is the who's the governor of Rhode
Island right now? I don't even know? I mean, it's like,
I mean, is Rhode Island even really a state? Guys,
let's be honest, it's kind of like Massachusetts, little brother,
whoever the who? Daniel McKee, be honest with you never

(37:34):
heard of this guy? He's a Democrat? Right, Obviously the
state's very democrat? Or is he one of those like
Mitt Romney Republicans Democrat. All right, we'll find out. My
point is the chief of police knows that the whole
game here is we got to make sure we keep
a grip on all of the islamaphobia. Gotta keep a

(37:54):
grip on all of the islamaphobia. No, actually, I think
we should be honest about things because you see, and
this is what's happening more and more, and now that
we even have X, at least we have one place
where people can share things more honestly without fear of
being shut down or throttled, at least not in the
same way they were before we all noticed this, and
they're never going to really win a war on noticing. Actually,

(38:17):
this is a perfect place for me to bring into
this conversation something that I think is, can we put
this up team? I haven't even sent this to you yet,
but I wanted to get to it today. I'm not
sure Clay will be as fired up about this one
tomorrow as I am, so I wanted to get to it.
But it's this piece in Compact. I'm sorry, wit, let
me make sure I have I'm giving this the right Yes,

(38:38):
compactmag dot Com compactmag dot com. The Lost Generation by
Matthew Schmidtz. This is we should put it up at
clan buck dot com. This is an amazing takedown, piece
by piece of what has really happened in the DEI

(38:59):
apparatus in America in the last ten years. He even
says he starts us off beginning I'm quoting him here
beginning in twenty fourteen, prestige industries decided they urgently needed
to diversify. They didn't purge established boomers. Instead, they did
everything possible to avoid hiring white millennial men. This is

(39:20):
the story of a generation derailed by DEI. This is
what I have observed, and it really coincided with my
time in the private sector, at least in the media,
this obsession with you know who ran CNN, an old
white guy, Jeff Zucker. But who were they trying to
hire as many minorities and particularly minority women as possible

(39:42):
for all the roles the lower down rolls right the
entry level and you know, the three to five year
kind of positions. This is true across Wall Street, true,
across law true, and they were open about it. This
is what the diversity hiring and one of the reasons
why I think there's such a frustration to my fellow
millennials out there. We got the we got the worst

(40:05):
of this. It was the generation above. You know, if
you really hit your peak professional years in the nineties,
you yeah, there were some of this, but you escaped it.
But if you started to in the in the early
mid two thousands, twenty ten, you know, if you were
trying to hit your professional peak, you were completely locked

(40:27):
out of act as a white male. So if you
were a if you were around age thirty at this time,
thirty to forty five, let's say, as a white male,
or even entry levels, let's say you know, twenty to
twenty to forty five, you were non hirable, unhirable in
Hollywood as a writer, in academia, all the colleges, all

(40:49):
the This whole piece, this Matthew Schmid's Guy's a brilliant piece, truly,
and you should read it because you'll understand what's really
happened to my generation. And I was only able to
escape it because of some good luck, some great mentors,
you know, Glenn and Rush and people letting me have
a chance in a business that has a very high
failure rate to begin with which is you know, media

(41:10):
and commentary. But I saw it all around me, my peers,
my colleagues, you know, not in media, but people that
I knew in other industries, particularly people I knew were
trying to make it in creative industries. No chance, you
weren't going to get that writing in Hollywood. You had
no shot. He goes through all these different details. But also,
you know, you look at a place like Goldman Sachs

(41:32):
And I actually had a friend some years ago who
was an NHR at Goldman Sackson, and she talked to
me about this extensively. All the guys who were at
the very top once they started doing this stuff ten
years ago, the people who were the fat cats, who
were making the big bucks, they got to stay. The
diversity did not mean we were replacing the CEO. That

(41:53):
is not would have meant. Diversity over the last ten
years meant, oh you're twenty five, you need a job. Sorry,
we have to take somebody who is a person of color.
Oh you're thirty years old and you're looking for your
big break to get into, Like I said, a university
teaching position, news media, television, television writing. No chance has

(42:16):
to be and you know, this is the part of it.
These institutions. I mentioned this before with Brown University, they
became a lot less impressive because they got rid of standards.
They started making decisions not based upon excellence at the
craft or the ability that one has, but on skin color.
Explicitly racist policies. And this was all throughout our society.

(42:37):
And it was my age cohort going up ten years
and down ten years, give or take. So say, you know,
if you're thirty to fifty right now, man, you got
screwed over professionally if you were trying to work in
any of these fields. And the other part of it
is you're not allowed to notice. You're not allowed to

(42:59):
notice that when they started doing this, and they insisted
on hiring women and minorities for roles that otherwise white
men would have gotten into. Like I said, this piececompactmag
dot com. Uh writes it up. We'll put it up
at clanbuck dot com so you can find that easily.
Will cross post it there. Uh, these plays, all of
a sudden, TV got really bad, movies started to suck.
What happened, Well, you weren't hiring the best writers anymore.

(43:21):
It's pretty straightforward. Also, the publishing industry. I was telling
you about books before what's happened at conservative books publishing
industries in a really rough state. You know why, they
had published too many white male authors, and so there
was all this rush to publish books that are garbage.
But the people were the right color or the right
gender for the purposes of the publishers. And remember the
people that are going to get their break, not the

(43:43):
you know, if you were established, if you were a boomer,
you and you were at one of these elite institutions,
you already had tenure or the equivalent thereof. It was
everybody else that you It was the It was the
millennials who got fed, you know, into the wood chipper
of the EI madness professionally. And this piece goes into

(44:04):
details about it. And these places are not a lead anymore.
And Hollywood TV writing got really crappy, and we all noticed,
we have all in fact noticed, so they can tell
us you're not allowed to notice these things, whether it's
radical Islam and terrorism or DEI and the quality of
the scripts that you're seeing produced on TV. But we do,

(44:25):
in fact notice. So that is where that stands. And
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(45:59):
again in the new year. Until then, Shield Time, welcome
back in here to play and look, oh, there's even
more coming on this A lot of terrorism analysis going
on the show today. Bring me back to my roots.
As you know, I was a CTC analyst, a CIO officer,
a CTC analyst, which is the counter Terrorism Center which

(46:21):
was stood up really as the anti al Qaeda unit
of the Central Intelligence Agency. It had a different name
before it was CTC and then it became CTC, and
it was really at the center of the action on
a lot of what the CIA did and did quite
well post nine to eleven in the War on Terror,

(46:44):
tracking down these targets all over all the places that
you know about Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraqs area, the Philippines, a
place we're going to talk about here shortly where there's
still Islamic terrorism. Isn't interesting? There are If I sat
here and asked you, excuse me, if I sat here

(47:08):
and asked you to name a Christian terrorist group, you
could think for a few minutes. I don't know, maybe
you'd come up with something. If I maybe, I don't know.
I can't. But if I said, come up with a
Christian terrorist group all over the world, in pretty much

(47:30):
every country where there's any concentration of Christians, you definitely
wouldn't be able to do that. Right. Isn't that an
interesting exercise? You might say, Oh, but Buck, that sounds
oh islamophobic. It sounds so racist. Hold on a second.
If I asked you to come up with a Buddhist

(47:53):
terrorist group. A lot of Buddhists all over the world.
In fact, there are about as many Buddhist in America
as there are Muslims. How many Buddhist terrorist attacks can
you think about on US soil? How many of those
have happened? Can you think of one? I did this

(48:13):
for a living, and I can't seekhs seeks are from
South Asia. They are generally brown. They therefore are ethnically
the same as a lot of or look very similar
to a lot of Muslims from the South Asia, including
Pakistanis and Afghanis and people from India. I know there's

(48:39):
all kinds of variation and everything else, but I'm just saying,
generally speaking, how many Sikh terrorist attacks have occurred in
the United States in your memory where a Sikh was
just you know, he took out his working blade, as
Sikhs are supposed to carry, and just started running around
stabbing every zero zero, not a single one. Ninety nine

(49:03):
percent of Sikhs are non white. About a million Sikhs
live in America. Not a single seek terror attack. Now,
why am I going through this exercise? Because the people
who tell you that there isn't something that is uniquely
problematic to Islam in the twenty first century or the
twentieth century for that matter, when it comes to terrorism,

(49:24):
are delusional. We all know this. We all know this.
I told you when I worked again manufacturing delusions. Speaking
of delusions, my book, please go buy copies. I need
all of you to buy copies. The conservative book market
has been falling apart You know that because people who
used to listen to or rather who have listened to
shows like this one and listen to Russian others, there's

(49:47):
not as many good books out there. I know this
is gonna this is self serving, make no mistake about it.
You helped me get to number one of the New
York Times bestseller lists by particularly buying advanced copies. Comeing's
out February seventeenth, of manufacturing the You help me? You
know what that does? Everybody, all the other conservatives that
you like out there right now, especially my contemporaries. You know, yeah,
there's been Mark Levin's been fantastically successful selling books, and

(50:10):
Bill O'Reilly. I'm talking about the lower general, the younger generation.
They're not writing books. You know why, because you can't
make any money because people aren't buying books. And then
what happens, and then people just start hiring ghostwriters. I
poured my blood, sweat and tears into this book. If
you help me make this successful, I am telling you
there will be other people, maybe people that you even

(50:33):
like more than me, which would be sad, but possibly
they will be like, oh okay, the book market is
alive and well the book market is in a rough spot.
Part of this also ties into the dece DEI stuff
I want to talk about later. That's on the publisher side,
but manufacturing delusion. Go get a copy, buy it on Amazon,

(50:53):
buy it wherever you can, buy it now, because that
is the first printing. Buy it now, because that it's
all about the first week. Is that number that then
determines the momentum and everything else. But I talk about
these things I talk about this is why I'm thinking
about this right now. The argument you'll hear about islamophobia.
I work to the NYPD Intelligence Division now Intelligence Bureau.
Why am I bringing that up? Because just for the

(51:16):
sake of making everybody feel like it wasn't the Islamic
Terrorism Unit, which it was, but we couldn't call it that.
What were the real plots against New York City? It
was always some crazy Muslim guy who wanted to shoot
up a synagogue or blow up a subway. Always, always, always,
We had a like a white supremacist unit, and we

(51:38):
had an Antifa unit, and we had a you know,
they were really really bored. But I give you, I
want to arm you with this argument about about why
Islamophobia is a nonsense term meant to shut down free
and fair debate and discussion. It's an ideology. It is
not a skin color. It is not an ethnicity. Anybody

(52:01):
who says otherwise is ignorant. They don't know what they're
talking about. Okay, they have no idea. Some of the
craziest Jihatis you will ever see in your life are
absolutely as white as I am because they come from
the Caucasus Mountain area. Like Caucasian. I mean, this is
you'll see Kurds with blonde hair and blue eyes. Now,

(52:23):
the Kurds tend to be great and wonderful people, but technically,
you know, I'm just saying, not a lot of Jihatis
coming out of Curdistan. But you get that they're Muslims.
They're not ethnically, there's no ethnic similarity. They want to
make it about race because they want to make you
not think about what's going on here. And so to
anybody who says, I've even run through this exercise, because

(52:47):
this is going to start to come up more of
my friends Islam radical Islam. We killed off a lot
of the worst terrorists. We did with all the special
operators and the drone strikes and everything we paid a
huge price for it. Was it worth it? Was it not?
That's the whole other conversation. But we killed off al
Qaeda leadership all over the world. Truly, we killed off
whole generations of foreign fighters. Truly, they can say we

(53:09):
made them. M I don't know if you grow up
in London and you decide you want to go blow
yourself up in a rock. I think you probably had
problems before we invaded. But this is what is going
on right now. There's a resurgence. You're seeing it, the
beginnings of it, resurgence of radical Islam. The Taliban controls Afghanistan.
We have this problem, and the same voice you're gonna
be saying, oh, the real issue here is Islamophobia. No,

(53:32):
it's not, it's not. The real issue is people need
to see what's going on and speak openly and honestly
about it. And this is why I say you'll notice
there's no buddha phobia in America. They'll only talk about Islamophobia.
Why is that most Buddhists are non white. I mean,
there's like some you know, Malibu moms who become Buddhists,

(53:54):
but generally speaking, most Buddhists are non white, and there's
no terrorist attacks here from Buddhists, or if there, RAI
is there's one or something, I'm sure somebody's going to
find one on the internet, but they don't cause this
problem from within the Islamic community, from within the same
roughly the same number Muslim Americans Buddhist Americans. One of
them is causing a whole lot of terrorist attacks, the

(54:15):
others not. And they're not they're both non white. So
what is going on here? Okay? I just wanted to
get that out of the way, or rather arm you
with that, because as we talk more about this now,
we have, for example, a GOP strategist who went on
TV and said straight up that there are students who
have gone on the record saying this is cut thirty

(54:37):
five that the shooter on Brown University yelled a lahuac
bar play thirty five. The police did.

Speaker 10 (54:43):
A press conmerce yesterday and they would not confirm what
the shooter yelled out before he started shooting.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
So you had a.

Speaker 10 (54:49):
Room of sixty students, eleven which have been shot.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Two are now dead.

Speaker 10 (54:53):
But that means that there are you know, at least
they said, are somewhere around sixty forty students who are
in there who could confirm what this man shot. At
least five students that I've seen have confirmed on the
record of media interviewers saying that he yelled at aliuk Bar. Well,
I think that that's pretty relative information. I think that
that would matter as there's a massive search for the shooter.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Did he yell.

Speaker 10 (55:14):
Aliut Bar, because then we should be looking for a
free Palestine terrorist and read it. Yesterday, by the way,
had to shut down the Brown University board because Free
Palestine students were celebrating Ela Hook's death.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Well you look at that. Now, you see what they're
going to do is assuming that this all lines up.
The Libs in charge here, the lib police chief here,
you can tell this guy's a Lib. The Libs who
run Providence, the Libs in the media, the people that

(55:50):
are always making excuses for radical Islam. It's our fault,
we didn't assimilate them. Well off, it's our Islamophobia whatever. Also,
this plays very much into the politics of the moment,
because this would be, like I said, another high profile
political assassination on a college campus within four months of
the Charlie Kirk assassination. This is a one Way Street,

(56:14):
my friends, and only only one side is doing this stuff.
And it ain't Trumpers, it ain't secure, It ain't people
who are security focused on the right. No, that's not
that's not who's doing this stuff. You know, national security hawks,
you know people who college Republicans know, we're not the

(56:34):
ones that are causing this kind of violence. We're not
the ones that are doing this. So that's why they
don't want you to know it. And this all lines
up as well. I will never forget under the Obama
administration the Pulse nightclub shooting in Florida and some jiehattist
lunatic goes into a gay nightclub and starts just murdering,
slaughtering as many people as possible. It's just horrific, beyond imagination,

(56:56):
beyond words. And the FBI under a blacks out on
the official transcript. They release him saying a la huac bar,
him saying I did this for? Isis him saying you know,
this is what the true Muslims do or something? Well,
all that stuff blacked out. We all knew what was there.
Why would they hide that from us because they think

(57:18):
you can't be trusted with the truth. And I'm getting
a lot of that from what happened here at Brown University.
And they do this for a reason, they tell themselves,
or they'll tell you it's because we were waiting for
all the facts to come in, or we you know,
we don't want there to be innocent people targeted because

(57:40):
of bigotry or whatever. But really what's going on here
is this looks bad for their team, roughly speaking, the left,
the Democrats, the other side of our political divide. And
you can say, oh, but why this guy's a radical Muslim.
And if you're a radical Muslim in America, are you

(58:00):
going to vote Republican or Democrat? In fact, if you're
looking for a radical Islamic elected official in today's America,
is it going to be a Democrat or Republican. We
all know what's going on here, so I think we
need to speak honestly and truthfully about it, even if
they try to say things to you. But like I said,
always walk anyone who says you're being as loamophobic, and

(58:24):
I can do all the throat clearing. You know, it's
less than one percent of Muslims in this country have
any affiliation with any kind of an extremist group. And
I could, but we all know that. But unfortunately, even
if it's one tenth of one percent, if you're talking
about millions and millions of people, that's a big problem.
If that includes people who are going to go out
and shoot up dozens of people or you know, blow

(58:44):
up subway cars or whatever it is, that's a big problem.
And think about how much time they spend on the
other side under the Biden years, in particular, telling you
that the real threat of extremism was right wing extremists.
Nobody gets on a plane and says, you know, I'm
worried that one of the MAGA guys is gonna sneak
a bomb on this thing. Nobody, not even the gee

(59:04):
hottest nobody thinks that. But we have to pretend. I've
never pretended, So I was gonna say I'm done pretending.
But I've never pretended. I've always been very honest on this.
This is why I started to get in trouble at CNN,
because they would try to have their experts come out
and talk to me about this, and I would smoke
them like the fools they are because I know more
than them and they're on the wrong side. So I

(59:27):
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