December 19, 2025 • 62 mins
What a Year!
Clay begins by confirming that the Brown University shooter, Claudio Neves Valenti, is dead after taking his own life in Salem, New Hampshire. Authorities now believe Valenti, a 48-year-old former Brown student and Portuguese national, was also responsible for the assassination of an MIT professor specializing in nuclear science and engineering, raising serious questions about campus security and law enforcement failures. Clay criticizes Brown University for lacking functional cameras in key areas, arguing that this incompetence allowed Valenti to evade capture for days and indirectly led to the MIT professor’s death. The case was ultimately cracked thanks to a homeless man’s tip, which may earn him a $50,000 reward.
Clay then pivots to the anticipated release of the Epstein files, noting that the New York Times has already confirmed what he and Buck have long maintained: there is no evidence of criminal wrongdoing by President Trump despite years of speculation. He frames this as proof of partisan lawfare, contrasting the relentless pursuit of Trump over bookkeeping charges with the absence of any Epstein-related allegations.
Just "Don't" Do It - Lessons from Nike
A reflection on the show’s growth since 2021, celebrating its expansion to over 550 stations nationwide and thanking listeners for their loyalty. From there, Clay pivots to a major business story: Nike’s stock collapse, which he argues is the inevitable result of the company’s cultural shift from celebrating athletic excellence to embracing woke activism. He traces Nike’s decline from its Michael Jordan era—built on meritocracy and performance—to its 2018 Colin Kaepernick campaign, which prioritized political messaging over sports achievement. Clay underscores that Nike stock has fallen from $85 a share in 2018 to $59 today, even as the broader market surged, framing this as a cautionary tale that “culture wins” and that abandoning core values for virtue signaling leads to failure.
Building on this theme, Clay explores the broader implications of cultural erosion, warning that internal decay—whether in corporations, families, or nations—poses a greater threat than external forces. He uses Nike as an example of how woke ideology undermines success and argues that the same dynamic is playing out in American politics and society. This segues into a discussion of conservative principles and truth-telling, highlighted by fiery remarks from Ben Shapiro at AmFest, where Shapiro condemned conspiracy theories and called out grifters within the movement, including former colleague Candace Owens, for spreading baseless claims about Charlie Kirk’s assassination. Clay praises Shapiro’s insistence on evidence and principle over populist pandering, warning that the conservative movement must guard against internal frauds who exploit grievance culture.
Why Culture Matters
Clay closes the program with a passionate reflection on the power of culture in shaping institutions and personal choices, sharing a story about Vanderbilt University’s decisive response to pro-Palestinian campus protests after the Hamas terror attacks. He praises Chancellor Daniel Diermeier for enforcing discipline and protecting free speech without tolerating chaos, noting that such leadership has driven a surge in applications to SEC schools. Clay frames this as proof that “culture wins,” urging listeners to stand firm against woke ideology and defend Western values. The hour ends on an inspiring note with a former Hamas hostage’s testimony that terrorists feared Donald Trump, reinforcing Clay’s argument that strength and resolve are essential in confronting evil.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Whether you're lighting a candle on the Manua or placing
Baby Jesus in the Nativity.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We hope your holiday is full of grace, wonder and
love and maybe even a little snow. Merry Christmas and
happy Honikah from all of us at the Clay and
Buck Show. Welcome in final show of the year for
either me or Buck. Buck is already on his Christmas vacation.
We have got a ton of great hosts coming for
(00:27):
you guesting starting on Monday. But let's have some fun
as we finish off twenty twenty five, which has been
I think an absolutely incredible year. Okay, we got a
ton of stories to dive into with all of you.
First of all, the Brown shooter is dead. That is,
(00:51):
the Brown University shooter is dead. And they now say
we talked about this a little bit on the program
before other were discussing it. They now say that this
guy also killed a professor at MIT. So the failure
of Brown University to have working cameras in the larger
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campus community not only led to this guy being unable
to be caught for multiple days, it led directly to
an MIT professor being shot. Now we're still learning a
lot about this guy and what we actually know about him.
He is a forty eight year old former student at
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Brown from Portugal and his last known address was in Miami, Florida.
Let me play a couple of these cuts, because already
everybody is stopping discussion now that the guy has killed himself.
The story is just vanishing, and I'm going to play
a couple of these cuts here in a moment for you.
(01:58):
But first worth knowing we are expecting to get Epstein
file release a little bit later in today. So what
exactly that will entail we do not know. Although bombshell
Alert the New York Times, after aggressively reviewing every bit
of evidence surrounding Jeffrey Epstein and interviewing many of his
(02:22):
alleged victims, has told you what Buck and I told
you was the case for a very long time. There's
no evidence of criminal wrongdoing from President Trump at all.
In the Epstein files. He is included, as many famous
people are, because he and Jeffrey Epstein knew each other
quite well in the eighties, nineties, early two thousands. But
(02:43):
the New York Times, paper of record for left wingers everywhere, said, hey,
there's absolutely no suggestion of any criminal wrongdoing from the
president associated with Jeffrey Epstein. We told you this for
some time. We said, do you really think they would
try to bankrupt President Trump, try to imprison him for
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the rest of his life, and aid in many ways
in creating the culture that led to people trying to
kill him if there was evidence that he had committed
crimes in the Epstein files, do you think that they
would have gone after him for bookkeeping transgressions that aren't
even criminal in nature in New York City. If there
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had actually been evidence that President Trump had committed crimes,
of course they would not have. They would have used
it in the four years that Biden was in office.
This was so self evident for anybody with a functional brain.
Yet again, people continue to fall for the bait and switch.
So we're expecting that later today. I think that will
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once and for all put the whole Epstein story to bad.
I don't expect there to be a lot of revelations.
I think it's all taken care of at this point
in time. But we will see the full release of
the Epstein files so called Epstein files, later today. But
updating you on what happened late last night, the Brown
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University shooting suspect killed himself, according to reports. Here is
from that press conference a description of that From cut one.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
An individual was identified as Claudio Nevis Valenti Dato birth
and he was a forty eight year old man. He
was a Brown student. He was a Portuguese national and
his last name noan address was in Miami, Florida.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
And I will tell you that he took.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
His own life tonight. We have members of the province
Police Department up in Salem Massage, New Hampshire, and we
also have the BCI unit. Obviously, the FBI and the
Evidence Recovery Unit is up there. So the process is
being conducted as we speak.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
All right, one more cut here from that press conference.
There were questions asked, Okay, why were there not cameras there?
Why did we have to rely on it? It turns
out a homeless guy actually was the person who was
able to help break the case here and catch this guy,
so he may be entitled to a fifty thousand dollars reward.
(05:19):
He went on Reddit. He talked about the fact that
this guy was behaving strangely, this homeless guy did, and
that he had tried to have a conversation with him.
He thought it was strange that he was driving a
car with license plates from Florida, and the way that
he was behaving on campus and parking and everything else.
This is all true. It appears that this case was
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basically this decided solved by a homeless guy on campus
who just thought this dude was behaving in a strange fashion.
Here are reporters blasting Brown University's President, Christina Packson for
the decision that she made and the defense of not
(06:02):
having working cameras in this part of the building. Listen,
there were no.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Cameras in this building, and law enforcements, some that are
standing up behind you have said, if Brown had cameras
in that part of the building, we would have gotten
this guy and it may have stopped the swirling action.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Can you answer that question for me?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Well, I don't think we have said the locations of
cameras at Brown. We have because.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Why would they take it from a rental car agency.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
We have twelve hundred cameras at Brown, but not in
that building. We have some in that building. It's a
large complex, and I think what you would see is
the video evidence in this case from my perspective on
to law enforcement agent has been incredibly helpful, the moving
of the person around the neighborhood. Those video images, they
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helped craft this case. So I think video was important.
And as the Attorney General explained at a recent press conference,
this individual was not spending his time on the Brown campus.
He came into a building on the edge of the campus.
He left, He was in the neighborhoods. The investigation focused
on the neighborhoods. The video was there and that was
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really really instrumental in cracking the case. But you could ask.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Them, and this is my follow up for Madam President
to say the podium, Yes, video played a big role
in this case. The neighbor's video, the rental car video,
but not the video from the building that he walked
in freely, both before when he got in a confrontation
and when he came back in decided to kill people.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You didn't have cameras.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
In that building.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Just say it so he can get us over it.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
And my next question.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Really need to call up.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I think we need to look back.
We'll look at everything that is done. But I do
not think a lack of cameras in that building, it
had anything to do with what happened there, all.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Right, So he is now dead. I'm surprised that there
isn't more discussion about why he chose to It's as
if now that he is dead, everybody is just going
to move on and pretend that we still don't know
why did he attack Brown University? Why did he also
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then go and evidently kill this MIT professor? What in
the world was going on here in his mind that
was motivating these two actions. And also, look that MIT
professor is dead because of the incompetence surrounding Brown University's
ability to actually capture this guy. So there is a
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dead person for sure, innocent, it appears dad, I believe
three that was an MIT professor that's dead because they
couldn't catch this guy who engaged in this mass shooting
at Brown University. But that story is is now out there.
Be aware of what happens in the wake of many
(09:06):
of these shootings. I want to update you to the
awful Bondai beat shooting that we started off the week
talking about that happened over the weekend. What is the
response in Australia to the mass shooting from guys terrorists
who were able to obtain weapons still in Australia, they
should never have gotten these guns. This is what the
(09:29):
background checks are designed to do. You ever notice how
almost always the people who have guns and engage in
illegal acts are breaking the law. It's kind of a
big deal, don't you think the idea that criminals are
going to comply with laws over and over and over again.
(09:51):
These mass shooters should have never had the weapons that
they have. The laws were put in place to keep
them from having the guns in Australia. They never should
have had the guns. So how do you respond to
the failure of existing gun control laws by trying to
implement more gun control? Which, guess what's going to happen.
(10:13):
Criminals are going to continue to disrespect and flo out
because they are criminals. So the law abiding gun owners
are going to be the victims here of increased attempted regulation.
Listen to cut three Australian gun control in the wake
of the Bondai shooting of fifteen innocent Jewish people. The
only solution here, Hey, it's not remedy immigration. Hey, it's
(10:37):
not actually apply the laws that are on the books
now to keep bad guys from getting guns. No, it's
more collection of firearms and more destruction and more laws
necessary when it comes to guns.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
Cut three, we spek hundreds of thousands of firearms will
be collected and destroyed through this scheme, consistent with the
prime it was taken in on in ninety six. The
government is proposing that states and territories will be responsible
for the collection, processing, and payment to individuals for surrendered firearms.
(11:12):
The austral and Federal police will then be responsible for
the destruction of these firearms.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
There you go. They don't even hide exactly what they
are going to be doing. All right, several other things
that I want to get into. Let me kind of
give you a roadmap of where we're headed. Senator Mark
Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma is going to join us just
after two pm. We will talk about the amfest that
is going on right now the Daily Wires. Ben Shapiro
(11:42):
teed off on a lot of people that he says
on the right are frankly grifting liars. We will tell
you what goes on there. Erica Kirk has endorsed JD
Vance and said that he will gain the support of
both her and Turning Point. As we already are starting
to look towards twenty twenty eight. In Atlanta, there has
(12:06):
been basically an acknowledgment that in the twenty twenty election
there was unrestrained election fraud. That is, three hundred and
fifteen thousand ballots in the Atlanta area didn't comply with
state law in Georgia and should not have been counted.
I know that many of you out there saying, yeah,
(12:28):
of course, Clay, But isn't it interesting how now all
of these stories come out and everybody in Georgia just says, yeah,
you know, we may have screwed that up. And you say, okay,
well Trump's in office. Now, yes, we had the disaster
of Biden, but remember they may have stolen two Senate
seats in Georgia. Kelly Loeffler and Purdue probably won that election,
(12:51):
both of them. If those three hundred and fifteen ballots,
which were ninety five to five in favor of Democrats,
had not been counted. That was an election that was
decided by a tiny matt margin. And remember this gets
into the weeds, but they had to do a revote,
and a lot of you have probably forgotten about this
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because you just want to wipe it out. Of your brain.
They had to do a double revote in Georgia because
at the time you had to get over fifty percent
of the vote, and both of those guys, Perdue and
Leffler just narrowly didn't get there, and then they ran
the revote and then Democrats showed up. And you say, Okay,
what was the impact of that, Clay, Well, that's what
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gave Biden control of the Senate. If only one of
those Senate races had gone in favor of Republicans, Biden
would have never been able to come in and enact
the awful agenda that he did in the first two
years of his administration. So it wasn't just the presidency
that was impacted by the fraud in Georgia. It was
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also directly the Senate, which was it over to Democrat
control because of this fraud. And I do think we
should be following up on stories like these because a
lot of people just want to pretend, oh, it never happened,
there's nothing going on here. In reality, this was incredibly
consequential in terms of the impact that it had. I
(14:20):
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Speaker 2 (15:31):
Welcome back in our number two final show of the
year for either Buck or myself. And Buck is already
on Christmas vacation. I will soon be joining my family
on Christmas vacation. The Boys, the Travis boys are all
out of school and super excited as kids are to
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be out of school. I'll mention this again in the
third hour, but I wanted to make sure I didn't
forget to do it here. Thank you guys, from both
Buck and myself. We started this show, this ride with
you guys in twenty twenty one, so we've been with
you in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three,
twenty twenty four, and now twenty twenty five, so that
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is parts of five years, and next year, when we
go into twenty twenty six, that will be six years.
And I know a lot of you out there are
thinking to yourself, there's no way that's true, because as
you age, the years moved by super fast, and so
I'm kind of blown away by that too. But we
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have enjoyed every single moment. We hope that we have
helped to make the country a little bit better than
it otherwise would have been. And we are certainly honored
every single day to sit down in front of this
microphone that Russia IMBA made famous and to help to
speak sanity into at all too often an insane world.
So we thank you for this opportunity, this privilege, and
(17:00):
thank you guys for letting us move into a sixth
calendar year with all of you starting next year, and
it's been another really good year for growth. I've mentioned
this before, but I think it's worth noting when we
came in in twenty twenty one, we had three hundred
and fifty stations nationwide. As we are finishing twenty twenty five,
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we now have over five hundred and fifty stations nationwide,
so we have grown by two hundred stations over the
course of the past four or five years. And that's
a credit to you, guys, because you're listening all over
the country in all fifty states, and certainly we love
all of you that are listening right now on the podcast.
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But you can imagine a lot of people when you
step into Choose that are this massive say there's no
way on earth these two knuckleheads are going to last
any time at all. And it's credit to you, guys
that not only have we lasted, we have thrived. And
I think it's quite clear that we love hanging out
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with you every single day for three hours. So thank
you all. Right. Opposite of thriving, I tease this last hour,
and as I was reading and getting ready for the
show today, I couldn't help but go through my usual
review of the stock market to see how things are
moving there. You guys know, I love to update you
(18:25):
as as needed, sometimes more often than some of you care,
on what's going on in the stock market, what's going
on in the media landscape. And this morning, Nike stock
is tanking. And I know some of you probably have
Nike stock, so I'm not trying to add to your
misery here in the holiday season, but Nike stock has
now dropped below sixty dollars a year. I wrote seven
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years ago, in September of twenty eighteen, that it was
a bad idea to buy stock in Nike because Nike
had moved from a company that embraced the meritocracy. This
was really a large part the thesis of my book
Republicans by Sneakers two from a company that's goal was
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to speak to sports fans everywhere and sell them sneakers
and sell them gear. Michael Jordan was right. He's now
admitted that this was a quote. He was asked in
the nineteen nineties, why aren't you political, Michael, Why do
you not speak out on so many different issues that
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confront the country, and his answer was Republicans by sneakers.
Speaker 10 (19:39):
Two.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I love that answer because sports is a unifying force
and it should be the case. And I really believe this,
and I've founded much of my career on it that
when you're in a stadium or an arena and your
team wins, you shouldn't be thinking about anything other than
high fiving the person around you. And Jordan got that,
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and it's why to this day, sorry for all the
people in Salt Lake. The most watched game in the
history of basketball was Game six, nineteen ninety eight NBA
Finals when Michael Jordan, yes, he pushed off Brian Russell
a little bit, stepped back and hit a jumper to
win the sixth title for the Chicago Bulls. In eight years.
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Over thirty million people watched that game. It is the
most watched game still in the history of basketball in America.
Never have more people watched a game. Lots of other
sports have set new record highs. Super Bowl, for instance,
that we just watched many of us in February of
this year, was the most watched football game that's ever
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aired in the history of the United States. So the
NFL has continued to set records, the NBA hasn't. Why
it's because Nike decided to go woke. I'm going to
play an ad for you from back in twenty eighteen
in a moment. But think about when you grew up.
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Nike epitomized athletic excellence, the meritocracy. If you remember, if
you grew up around my age, you will Bono's. Do
you remember the Bonos commercials that were so great? If
you remember all of the Michael Jordan ads for Nike,
if you are around my age and you remember how
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every time a new Air Jordan sneaker came out, we
all couldn't wait to see them. We hoped that we
might be able to afford them. Heck, some of y'all
are out there right now and your sneaker heads to
this day because you grew up on Air Jordan's great
stat for you. Even to this day, Michael Jordan's Air
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Jordan brand out sells every current NBA player sneaker combined.
Think about how wild that is. That's how beloved Michael
Jordan was. When they released that documentary The Last Dance
during COVID, when there were no sports going on, more
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people watched the documentary about the nineteen ninety Chicago Bulls
than watched the actual NBA Finals with Lebron James in
them that year. People would rather watch a documentary about
Michael Jordan than an actual game featuring Lebron James. Why
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why did all this happen? Because deep down American DNA
craves excellence. We want to be the biggest, the best,
the baddest ass that has ever existed. That was Jordan.
Now can it come with Pratt falls? Yeah. Most people
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who are driven to be the best at something, they
also have a few flaws. Elon Musk right now, I
think is the greatest American capitalist of all time. If
you look at what he's done with Tesla, if you
look at what he's doing with SpaceX, if you look
at what he's doing with x and Xai, the Boring Company,
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all of them are extraordinary successes, the likes of which,
and I don't think I'm exaggerating here, it's the greatest
capitalist ever. Susie Wilds talked about this in The Vanity Fair.
But he's also a bit of an odd duck. He's
got a lot of kids, by a lot of different women,
fourteen kids, I think by a lot of different women
right now. It's probably not always really easy to get
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along with Steve Jobs back at Apple, really difficult to
get along with, you know when you say, like Steve
Jobs did, my job is not to give people what
they want. It's to give people what they aren't even
aware they want. Yet I've got to create that kind
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of cocky and so if you're looking at that and
you're saying, yeah, there's a downside to it. But if
excellence is the standard, Nike made its focus the meritocracy,
the best man or the best woman. They wanted their
sneakers on you. They wanted to convince you that you
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would run faster, jump higher, that you would in some
way emulate the successes of the people that they put
on the Nike brand. It was all about excellence, the meritocracy.
Nike wanted the best man or the best woman, not
the best man pretending to be a woman, to win.
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And then a record scratch moment happened in twenty eighteen,
I'm gonna play this ad for you. Suddenly Nike decided
instead of Kobe Bryant, instead of Michael Jordan, instead of
the greatest athletes of their era representing the brand. They
were gonna pivot, they were gonna go woke. They gave
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millions of dollars to Colin Kaepernick, and they said this
is the new Nike, and this aired seven years ago.
Speaker 11 (25:25):
Listen, if people say your dreams are crazy, if they
laugh at what you think you can do, good stay
that way, because what non believers fail to understand is
that calling a dream crazy is not an insult, It's
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a compliment. Don't try to be the fastest runner in
your school or the fastest in the world. Be the
fastest ever. Don't picture yourself wearing Obj's jersey. Picture OBJ
wearing yours. Don't settle for homecoming queen or linebacker.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Do both.
Speaker 11 (26:10):
Lose a hunerd twenty pounds and become an iron man
after beating a brain tumor. Don't believe you have to
be like anybody to be somebody. If you're born a refugee,
don't let us stop you from playing soccer for the
national team at age sixteen. Don't become the best basketball
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player on the planet.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Be bigger than.
Speaker 11 (26:37):
Basketballers about Believe in something, even if it means sacrificing
everything all.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Right, stop it right there. When they believe in something,
even if it means sacrificing everything, they try to quoke
their message in the guise of Colin Kaepernick. But people said,
wait a minute, Colin Kaepernick is making way more money
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as an advocate than he ever had as a quarterback.
He got multiple Netflix documentary deals, He got paid millions
of dollars by Nike. If Colin Kaepernick had been the
best quarterback in the NFL and he had decided to
take a knee to protest anything, do you know what
would have happened. He would have stayed employed. But when
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they started to sell the face of the brand, now,
is Colin Kaepernick believe in something even if it means
sacrificing everything. Colin Kaepernick wasn't the best quarterback in the NFL.
I'm not sure he was the twenty fifth best quarterback
at the NFL at the time that he took a knee.
Michael Jordan, whatever you thought about him, heck Lebron James,
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heck Kobe Bryant, whatever you thought about those guys, they
were the best of their era. The minute that Nike
he decided, Hey, we're going to focus on an athlete
for an advertising campaign that has nothing to do with
excellence on the field and everything to do with a
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political perspective. They turned their back on Michael Jordan. Republicans
by sneakers too, and they basically extended a middle finger
to half of America and said, screw y'all. And that's
being kind for what they said, left wing politics or nothing.
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When that ad ran Nike stock, I wrote about it
at USA Today, I've linked it on my Twitter account.
Nike stock was eighty five dollars a share. Seven years later,
stock market is up about one hundred and fifty percent.
That is, if you had a dollar in it, now
you've got nearly two fifty right all the rest of
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the market has gone up substantially. Nike stock, because I
speak to you right now, is fifty nine dollars a share.
You would have lost if you had just seen that
cultural pivot like I did and said sell your Nike stock,
which I did, and everybody in the whole sports media
came after me and said, Klay Travis has no idea
what he's talking about. Seven years later, eighty five dollars
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share price, Now it's fifty nine dollars. It's not just
that the price has declined substantially. It's that the rest
of the market has gone up substantially. You've lost a
ton of money if you bought Nike stock and held
it because they went woke and burned down the entire
framework of the company. All of the culture that was
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created with Michael Jordan was gone with Colin Kaepernick. And
I think it's emblematic. Some of you can say, well,
why should I care about Nike? This is what happens.
Culture wins. Culture wins in everything. The culture that you
create in your family, in your companympany, in your city,
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in your state, in your country ultimately dictates the result
that you're going to get. And if you allow this
woke culture virus into your family, into your company, into
your city, into your state, into your country, the results
are going to be awful. Because the only way we
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advance is by embracing the meritocracy. The best among us
should have the highest possible results. When we start saying
the athletes we should aspire to embody are people who
are speaking out about politics whatever they are not about
the excellence of their actual performance, the culture is lost.
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This is what I think about all the time. Now
that I'm getting to be an old guy. Culture. Culture, culture,
the culture that you create in life dictates every element
of success individually and also in a larger context. It's
no surprise to me that the culture Nike created, which
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turned away from excellence in the meritocracy of Michael Jordan
to the left wing activism of Colin Kaepernick, led ultimately
to the cratering of the company. If you go woke,
everything else will be in disastrous rubble, doesn't matter what
it is. I hope that's a lesson that we're starting
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Speaker 2 (33:09):
Until then, Shield time, we are continuing to follow, they
now say the Brown shooter, the Brown University shooter, is dead.
He has shot himself and they are now saying that
he also likely as we started off the show discussing
killed the MIT professor as well, and we were talking
(33:32):
about culture as it pertains to Nike and how the
culture of whatever you create, your family, your own self,
if you don't have a big family, your company, your state,
your city, your country, culture ultimately dictates everything. If you
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make good choices, then you're going over time to end
up in a better place than if you make bad choices.
And if you question that, I make a lot of
bad choices in my golf game. Golf as a metaphor
for life is not a bad symbol for those of
you out there that golf at all. How often do
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you find yourself out of the fairway very often?
Speaker 10 (34:16):
For me?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
How often do you find yourself with a bad lie?
Very often? And how often do you try to do
a hero shot to put yourself back where you should
have been if you had just stayed in the fairway
in the first place. A ton of times. If you
ever find yourself in golf thinking I'm going to cover
my face right after this shot, which I have found
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myself doing a lot of times. You are attempting a
hero shot. If you are playing with a friend and
he's in the golf cart and he leans over in
preparation for your shot to ensure that you don't beat
him in the back of the head and kill him,
you are attempting a hero shot. If you have ever
started to take a golf and thought this shot might
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well ricochet and take out my teeth or break my nose,
it's probably something you shouldn't do. Speaking of which you know,
I've done a bunch of these charity pro ams. Now
jaw rule the rapper, Did you guys see the video
of his tee shot where he hit at such an
improbable angle that the person who was filming it, who
(35:24):
was basically perpendicular to him, it should be very difficult
to hit a golf shot that way. You should be
safe in that tea box. Now he hit him. If
you haven't seen that video, that is an example of
a bad golf shot that is leading the culture a mock.
(35:45):
But I do think it's important and instructive. As we
finished twenty five to think about that quite a lot,
and I think about it in the context of a
quote that I heard back in the past that some
of you may have heard before. A college football coach
told me, we recruit our own problems. And I just
(36:06):
thought to myself, that is such a perfect way of
describing much of what goes on in life. We recruit
our own problems. Most of the time we worry about
external Oh what's that person going to do to me?
Oh what's that company going to do to me? Most
destruction is internal, not external, and we recruit our own problems.
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The coach was talking about the culture you create. The
culture you create dictates success. If you create a culture
that blames everybody else this woke mind virus. If you
create a culture that says, oh, actually, this company, well
it's it's taking advantage of people, it's pillaging them. If
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you create a culture of futility and blame, you're going
to have a culture that collapses. And I was thinking
about that right now because on the right wing in
this country. Well, let me first give you a little
bit of advice. My advice as we finish off twenty
twenty five, clip it. Share it with your kids, graduate
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high school, get married, get a job. If you do
those three things. Your poverty rate in America is basically zero.
Graduate high school. Everybody can do it, no matter how
rich your mom or dad are, no matter where you're
going to school. Everybody can graduate high school. Everybody can
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eventually get married, and everybody can eventually have kids. After
those two things you do that you have a poverty
rate basically of zero. But I wanted to play a cut.
Ben Shapiro yesterday was speaking out at Amfest. Erica Kirk
Big News. I would say, the wife of Charlie Kirk
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endorsed Evans. But Ben Shapiro was speaking about truth and
trying to be honest with audience and what the impact
of that can be in a significant way. And I
thought he did a really good job of calling out
things that are untrue and people who are spreading untruth
(38:22):
sometimes people who are spreading untruths and being actually rewarded
for them. And I am scrolling through right now. Let's
start with Erica Kirk, because I thought Erica was good
in what she said. This is cut thirteen.
Speaker 12 (38:39):
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The
mission didn't end with Charlie's life. It's being lived out
through each and every one of you in your own way. Again,
it doesn't matter, your age, doesn't matter, your race, doesn't matter,
your background. Amfest is not about echo chambers. It's very
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important to know that because it's about sharpening one another's
it's about digging deeper into ideas instead of retreating and
the slogans, and it's about remembering that freedom requires responsibility
and truth requires courage.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Okay, that's well said, and certainly on this show we
like to say the First Amendment is alive and well,
I've always believed that the marketplace of ideas, sometimes you're
going to get a bloody nose, sometimes you're going to
get a black eye. People are going to come after
things that you say and they may not agree, and
that's okay. And the marketplace of ideas requires that the
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best ideas win. But also it requires that there be
a marketplace a variety of opinions, so that you're not
just constantly the preacher speaking to the choir. You have
to convert people to your way of thinking. You have
to evangelize for the truth and for the First Amendment.
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So I thought Ben Shapiro here going after one of
his former employees, Candace Owens, over lies that she has
spread about who killed Charlie Kirk was pretty strong. Elbows punches,
sometimes scraps get nasty. This has cut fourteen.
Speaker 10 (40:25):
Because we have a duty to truth, we also have
a duty to provide you with evidence of the claims
that we make. Emotive accusations, conspiracy theories at just asking questions.
That's lazy and stupid and misleading. None of them are
a substitute for truth. None of them are a substitute
for evidence. So when Candice Owen says, I don't know no,
(40:47):
but I know that is retarded, and we are all
more retarded for having heard us.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Going after her aggressively. And then I thought, Ben again,
I watched his address yesterday, an I thought he did
a good job. Here's a little bit more of that. Look,
you have to speak not in the name of just
what people respond to, but also in the name of principle,
And if you have to balance between the two, it's
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better to stand on principle than audience. I thought this
was really well said. Cut fifteen.
Speaker 10 (41:20):
The conservative movement is in serious danger. It is in
danger not just from a left that all too frequently
excuses everything up to and including murder. The conservative movement
is also in danger from Charlatans who claim to speak
in the name of principle but actually traffic in conspiracism
and dishonesty, who offer nothing but bile and despair, who
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seek to undermine fundamental principles of conservatism by championing enervation
and grievance. These people are frauds, and they are grifters,
and they do not deserve your time, and they are
something worse than that, a danger to the only movement
capable of stopping the left from wrecking the country wholesale.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
I thought all of that was really well said, And
again it goes to threats. It's very easy to focus
on external threats. It makes us feel better if we
prepare for things that are out there, people who can
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do things to us. We want to protect our family,
we want to protect our communities. But most of the time,
most almost always of the time, failure is not external.
It's internal. And that's tougher to realize because we spend
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a lot of time trying to protect those that we
love from others. But often the failure that we create
is internal because we don't do a good enough job
taking care of the culture that we're creating. I don't
hear a lot of people talking about that. To me,
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the foundation of conservatism is first individual responsibility. If you
can't in some way control yourself and put yourself in
a position to make things better for your family, your state,
for your country, then how in the world can you
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seek to police others. The first thing you have to
get right is internal, and that's hard right because that
requires self analysis. It requires frankly hard work, and most
people aren't willing to do that because it's easier to
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focus on external threats than it is to build a
strong culture internally. Now, Ben Shapiro's right on the left
have awful ideas. They will kill us for the ideas
that we even are willing to express. The left is
attacking Western civilization. But what I think we are learning
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as a country is it's actually internal. We don't.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Look.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
I'm concerned about what China does, I'm concerned about what
Russia does. I'm concerned about what people in other countries
might do to us. We have a military to protect
our nation from foreign invaders. But I'm more concerned about
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what we're doing inside the country to freedom, to the
marketplace of ideas. Look at what's going on in Europe
right now. They just send it somebody to eighteen months
in prison for saying that I'm basically making criticisms on
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social media about immigration. I was just scrolling through this
morning getting ready for the show, and I saw that
they had pulled a card off of the marketplace in England.
It was a holiday card with the Grinch on it.
(45:29):
This according to the Daily Mail, the headline that the
card said this Christmas, I'm identifying as a Grinch, had
a picture of the Grinch. It was pulled off shelves
because quote, it invalidated the lived experiences of trans people.
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What are we doing? Internal destruction of Western civilization is
clearly the goal, and it's not being foisted upon us externally.
It's a cultural battle that is occurring inside of this
country every day, and I think Nike is emblematic of that.
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I think it's important for you guys to see it.
I think certainly what Ben Shapiro is pointing to is
evidence of that as well. We have to internally battle
with strength in order to create an external culture that
is worthy of preservation. Think about it a little bit
as we roll into the holiday season, and I don't
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want to be entirely serious on the final show of
the year, so we're also going to play some of
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Okay, final
half hour of the year. Let's have some fun again.
I want to reiterate, thank you guys, so so much.
Twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, twenty three, twenty four.
Now we're complete, completing twenty twenty five five different parts
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of the calendar year that both Buck and I have
had the honor and the privilege to be able to
talk with you guys every single day for three hours.
I think we have made a difference. I think we
have impacted the culture in a positive way, and that's
a tremendous credit to you guys. When we came in,
we had three hundred and fifty affiliate radio stations. Now
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we have five hundred and fifty over five hundred and fifty.
A lot of you are new listeners. Some of you
have been with us from the moment we first sat
down in front of these microphones on June twenty first,
and from our family to years. We can't say thank
you enough for the time that you give to us
every single day and that you have given to us
over the past five years. We will be back together
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on January fifth. We've got a lot of great guests
who are going to be guest hosts, who are going
to be in there. I'm gonna get to your calls.
I'm gonna get some talkbacks. Let me tell you a
positive story quickly from my own family. So you guys
know that I went to Vanderbilt Law School, met my
wife Laura there, and I love Vanderbilt University, my hometown
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of Nashville. A lot of times people get frustrated. Hey,
how do we win culture battles? Clay, Hey, look at
what's going on at my company. Look at what I'm
having to deal with. That doesn't make any sense. I
want to tell you a quick story of the impact
of culture and how it can lead to tremendous outcomes.
Some of you will remember, in fact, almost all of
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you will remember, the protests that took place on college
campuses all over the country in twenty twenty three twenty
twenty four, in the wake of the terror attacks that
happen by Hamas on innocent Israeli's twelve hundred deaths, the
worst day of death for people who were of the
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Jewish faith since the Holocaust, and all over the country,
places like Columbia on the East coast, places like UCLA
on the West coast, and many different points in between.
All these college kids, including my alma mater, undergrad of
George Washington Universe, all these college kids and their supporters,
provokers one might say, took over campus set up tents,
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took over campus buildings, and argued that in actuality, the
Hamas terrorists were the ones who were being unfairly treated.
They said, globalized the Intifada unfortunately we've seen far too often,
but we just saw it on Bondai Beach. What globalized
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the inta fada actually means. It means innocent Jewish people
are killed for being Jewish. It is the very definition
of good versus evil. You know what happened as those
protests were taking place all over the country, Some schools
actually stood up against those protests and even had counter protests.
And among them were many very prominent Southern schools, the
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SEC and the ACC schools among them. My oldest SUN
is in the process of applying to colleges right now.
It's crazy to me that I'm going to have an
eighteen year old in January and I'm going to have
a college kid on a campus this fall. What we
are seeing happen in this season of application is all
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of those schools in the SEC and the ACC, all
these Southern schools, and there were some Arizonas of the
world out west as well. The places where the students
stood for good are seeing applications skyrocket. And I'm excited
to have a kid who's going to be enrolled at
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an SEC school this fall. A big reason why he
is is because of the way that Vanderbilt University in particular,
responded when they had pro Palestine protesters take over the
main campus building in the center of the campus, Kirkland Hall.
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I don't think this story has gotten told enough, but
the chancellor of Vanderbilt's guy named Daniel Deermeyer. He walked
in one morning as the protests were going on. All
these kids had stormed Kirkland Hall. He walked in, turned
around and walked back out, got on the phone with
Nashville police and said, come in and get them all.
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We're not letting this happen. It's one thing to have
a principle of free speech. It's another thing to say,
as Vanderbilt does and all these sec schools do, we're
not going to allow you to take over campus buildings.
Almost immediately the local Nashville police came in and they
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arrested all the kids that were in their protesting. Then
something interesting happened. Chancellor of Vanderbilt. He said, if these
are students, I want them kicked out of the school immediately.
They don't get to finish the semester, their credits don't transfer.
If they are students and they were trying to occupy
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this building, they're gone period. Vanderbilt immediately kicked all of
those nincome poop kids out. You know what happened. Applications
have skyrocketed because earlier I was talking about culture, and
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it turns out culture and bravery. It's contagious. When you
stand up for something significant in your life, other people
want to be with you. They actually want to join you.
They want to provide even more steel in your spine.
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When I was a kid, nobody wanted to come down
to Tennessee to go to school. They would say things like,
do y'all even have run and water down there? Now
you have got moms and dads in La Chicago, New
York City, some of the richest people in the entire country,
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people who could send their kids anywhere, and they're saying
no to Columbia, and they're saying no to UCLA, and
they are sending their kids to SEC and ACC schools
overwhelming numbers because they're fed up with what they have seen.
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And right now, I'm excited to have my kid at
Vanderbilt starting in the fall. I don't know that he
would have gone to Vanderbilt if he hadn't seen the
way that the chancellor responded there and I know a
lot of you have kids and grandkids applying to schools
all over the country. Ole Miss got a big game
coming up this weekend against Tulane. I'm gonna be honest,
(55:58):
and I don't want to hear too many old miss.
Ole Miss would sometimes admit dead people back in the
day if you paid the application fee. Ole Miss was like,
you're in back in the day twenty. I'm not trying
to tell you, Hotty Toddy, I'm betting on you guys
to beat too lane. But everybody who knows everybody out
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there knows what I'm talking about. If you had a
kid in the South and they got in a lot
of trouble, but you still wanted them to go to
a college, Ole Miss would welcome them with open arms.
Hey they're rebels. It's hard to get into every SEC
school now, and that's because culture wins and also culture loses.
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And I made this decision in my own life. I
went to George Washington University. You guys may remember me
talking about it some on the program. They changed the
name of the mascot from colonials to revolutionaries. And that
might not sound like a lot. You might say, Clay,
you're why do you care? Well, because of why they
did it. They said they were changing colonials because it
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had too much of a connection to colonialism. Excuse me,
we were the colonists. We were actually the people fighting
back against the larger country, the colonial army fought against
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Great Britain. You can say, well, it's not that big
of a deal. They just changed the name to revolutionaries. No,
instead of having steel in their spine, they listened to morons.
Worse than that, they negotiated with them. Even worse than that,
they let them win. Culture matters. The culture of the
Southeastern Conference is one where we know the difference between
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good and evil. The culture of Southern schools in Red States,
where I'm fortunate to live, is one where we are
proud to stand on the side of good and speak
up against evil. As we roll into this holiday season,
I want for all of you to think about that.
Are you standing up for a culture of good against evil?
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Are you supporting free speech? And are you shouting down morons?
Because if you are not, then I would submit you
are enabling a culture to take over wherever you are.
That is going to lead us into more perilous times.
I thought about this I just sent in a clip.
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Strength matters, steal in the spine matters. Listen to what
former Hamas hostage Omaer shim Tav said. The only person
that Hamas feared was President Trump. He was in the
Hamas tunnels under the ground, stolen away from his friends
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and family, one of two hundred and fifty innocent people
who was kidnapped by the evil of Hamas. Evil people
fear strength, bravery, courage. He is imperfect, as all of
us are, but he says things changed when President Trump won.
Hamas didn't fear Biden. They feared Trump. Listened to cut
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twenty eight.
Speaker 13 (59:31):
I consider something else by the terrorists to help me captive.
There was one man they feared the most, President Donald Trump.
When he was elected, the way they treated me changed completion.
They were terrified of him, and they want to stay
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the scary So the old world hears it now on
be asked of. The hostages are an our nation. Thank
you President Donald Trump for our freedom. He podcast he
got us home.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
I love that. Sometimes you gotta have a guy that
the bad guys are afraid of. Weak men are not
making bad guys afraid. Biden was weak. Trump is strong
and It made all the difference for those hostages who
were back this holiday season, this Honkah to be able
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to celebrate their freedom with their families. All right, we'll
finish with some fun stuff, But I was just thinking,
I want to give you a little bit of a
charge headed into the holiday season about good versus evil
and winning and triumphing in the marketplace of ideas, and
how it has real significance and real consequences. But you know,
football's fun. We don't always have to be super serious.
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We hope your holiday is full of grace, wonder and
love and maybe even a little snow. Merry Christmas and
happy Honikah from all of us at the Clay and
Buck Show. Welcome in final show of the year for
either me or Buck. Buck is already on his Christmas vacation.
We have got a ton of great hosts coming for
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you guesting starting on Monday. But let's have some fun
as we finish off twenty twenty five, which has been
I think an absolutely incredible year. Okay, we got a
ton of stories to dive into with all of you.
First of all, the Brown shooter is dead. That is,
(00:51):
the Brown University shooter is dead. And they now say
we talked about this a little bit on the program
before other were discussing it. They now say that this
guy also killed a professor at MIT. So the failure
of Brown University to have working cameras in the larger
(01:17):
campus community not only led to this guy being unable
to be caught for multiple days, it led directly to
an MIT professor being shot. Now we're still learning a
lot about this guy and what we actually know about him.
He is a forty eight year old former student at
(01:37):
Brown from Portugal and his last known address was in Miami, Florida.
Let me play a couple of these cuts, because already
everybody is stopping discussion now that the guy has killed himself.
The story is just vanishing, and I'm going to play
a couple of these cuts here in a moment for you.
(01:58):
But first worth knowing we are expecting to get Epstein
file release a little bit later in today. So what
exactly that will entail we do not know. Although bombshell
Alert the New York Times, after aggressively reviewing every bit
of evidence surrounding Jeffrey Epstein and interviewing many of his
(02:22):
alleged victims, has told you what Buck and I told
you was the case for a very long time. There's
no evidence of criminal wrongdoing from President Trump at all.
In the Epstein files. He is included, as many famous
people are, because he and Jeffrey Epstein knew each other
quite well in the eighties, nineties, early two thousands. But
(02:43):
the New York Times, paper of record for left wingers everywhere, said, hey,
there's absolutely no suggestion of any criminal wrongdoing from the
president associated with Jeffrey Epstein. We told you this for
some time. We said, do you really think they would
try to bankrupt President Trump, try to imprison him for
(03:03):
the rest of his life, and aid in many ways
in creating the culture that led to people trying to
kill him if there was evidence that he had committed
crimes in the Epstein files, do you think that they
would have gone after him for bookkeeping transgressions that aren't
even criminal in nature in New York City. If there
(03:25):
had actually been evidence that President Trump had committed crimes,
of course they would not have. They would have used
it in the four years that Biden was in office.
This was so self evident for anybody with a functional brain.
Yet again, people continue to fall for the bait and switch.
So we're expecting that later today. I think that will
(03:48):
once and for all put the whole Epstein story to bad.
I don't expect there to be a lot of revelations.
I think it's all taken care of at this point
in time. But we will see the full release of
the Epstein files so called Epstein files, later today. But
updating you on what happened late last night, the Brown
(04:08):
University shooting suspect killed himself, according to reports. Here is
from that press conference a description of that From cut one.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
An individual was identified as Claudio Nevis Valenti Dato birth
and he was a forty eight year old man. He
was a Brown student. He was a Portuguese national and
his last name noan address was in Miami, Florida.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
And I will tell you that he took.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
His own life tonight. We have members of the province
Police Department up in Salem Massage, New Hampshire, and we
also have the BCI unit. Obviously, the FBI and the
Evidence Recovery Unit is up there. So the process is
being conducted as we speak.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
All right, one more cut here from that press conference.
There were questions asked, Okay, why were there not cameras there?
Why did we have to rely on it? It turns
out a homeless guy actually was the person who was
able to help break the case here and catch this guy,
so he may be entitled to a fifty thousand dollars reward.
(05:19):
He went on Reddit. He talked about the fact that
this guy was behaving strangely, this homeless guy did, and
that he had tried to have a conversation with him.
He thought it was strange that he was driving a
car with license plates from Florida, and the way that
he was behaving on campus and parking and everything else.
This is all true. It appears that this case was
(05:42):
basically this decided solved by a homeless guy on campus
who just thought this dude was behaving in a strange fashion.
Here are reporters blasting Brown University's President, Christina Packson for
the decision that she made and the defense of not
(06:02):
having working cameras in this part of the building. Listen,
there were no.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Cameras in this building, and law enforcements, some that are
standing up behind you have said, if Brown had cameras
in that part of the building, we would have gotten
this guy and it may have stopped the swirling action.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Can you answer that question for me?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Well, I don't think we have said the locations of
cameras at Brown. We have because.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Why would they take it from a rental car agency.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
We have twelve hundred cameras at Brown, but not in
that building. We have some in that building. It's a
large complex, and I think what you would see is
the video evidence in this case from my perspective on
to law enforcement agent has been incredibly helpful, the moving
of the person around the neighborhood. Those video images, they
(06:51):
helped craft this case. So I think video was important.
And as the Attorney General explained at a recent press conference,
this individual was not spending his time on the Brown campus.
He came into a building on the edge of the campus.
He left, He was in the neighborhoods. The investigation focused
on the neighborhoods. The video was there and that was
(07:13):
really really instrumental in cracking the case. But you could ask.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Them, and this is my follow up for Madam President
to say the podium, Yes, video played a big role
in this case. The neighbor's video, the rental car video,
but not the video from the building that he walked
in freely, both before when he got in a confrontation
and when he came back in decided to kill people.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You didn't have cameras.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
In that building.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Just say it so he can get us over it.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
And my next question.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Really need to call up.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I think we need to look back.
We'll look at everything that is done. But I do
not think a lack of cameras in that building, it
had anything to do with what happened there, all.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Right, So he is now dead. I'm surprised that there
isn't more discussion about why he chose to It's as
if now that he is dead, everybody is just going
to move on and pretend that we still don't know
why did he attack Brown University? Why did he also
(08:20):
then go and evidently kill this MIT professor? What in
the world was going on here in his mind that
was motivating these two actions. And also, look that MIT
professor is dead because of the incompetence surrounding Brown University's
ability to actually capture this guy. So there is a
(08:43):
dead person for sure, innocent, it appears dad, I believe
three that was an MIT professor that's dead because they
couldn't catch this guy who engaged in this mass shooting
at Brown University. But that story is is now out there.
Be aware of what happens in the wake of many
(09:06):
of these shootings. I want to update you to the
awful Bondai beat shooting that we started off the week
talking about that happened over the weekend. What is the
response in Australia to the mass shooting from guys terrorists
who were able to obtain weapons still in Australia, they
should never have gotten these guns. This is what the
(09:29):
background checks are designed to do. You ever notice how
almost always the people who have guns and engage in
illegal acts are breaking the law. It's kind of a
big deal, don't you think the idea that criminals are
going to comply with laws over and over and over again.
(09:51):
These mass shooters should have never had the weapons that
they have. The laws were put in place to keep
them from having the guns in Australia. They never should
have had the guns. So how do you respond to
the failure of existing gun control laws by trying to
implement more gun control? Which, guess what's going to happen.
(10:13):
Criminals are going to continue to disrespect and flo out
because they are criminals. So the law abiding gun owners
are going to be the victims here of increased attempted regulation.
Listen to cut three Australian gun control in the wake
of the Bondai shooting of fifteen innocent Jewish people. The
only solution here, Hey, it's not remedy immigration. Hey, it's
(10:37):
not actually apply the laws that are on the books
now to keep bad guys from getting guns. No, it's
more collection of firearms and more destruction and more laws
necessary when it comes to guns.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
Cut three, we spek hundreds of thousands of firearms will
be collected and destroyed through this scheme, consistent with the
prime it was taken in on in ninety six. The
government is proposing that states and territories will be responsible
for the collection, processing, and payment to individuals for surrendered firearms.
(11:12):
The austral and Federal police will then be responsible for
the destruction of these firearms.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
There you go. They don't even hide exactly what they
are going to be doing. All right, several other things
that I want to get into. Let me kind of
give you a roadmap of where we're headed. Senator Mark
Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma is going to join us just
after two pm. We will talk about the amfest that
is going on right now the Daily Wires. Ben Shapiro
(11:42):
teed off on a lot of people that he says
on the right are frankly grifting liars. We will tell
you what goes on there. Erica Kirk has endorsed JD
Vance and said that he will gain the support of
both her and Turning Point. As we already are starting
to look towards twenty twenty eight. In Atlanta, there has
(12:06):
been basically an acknowledgment that in the twenty twenty election
there was unrestrained election fraud. That is, three hundred and
fifteen thousand ballots in the Atlanta area didn't comply with
state law in Georgia and should not have been counted.
I know that many of you out there saying, yeah,
(12:28):
of course, Clay, But isn't it interesting how now all
of these stories come out and everybody in Georgia just says, yeah,
you know, we may have screwed that up. And you say, okay,
well Trump's in office. Now, yes, we had the disaster
of Biden, but remember they may have stolen two Senate
seats in Georgia. Kelly Loeffler and Purdue probably won that election,
(12:51):
both of them. If those three hundred and fifteen ballots,
which were ninety five to five in favor of Democrats,
had not been counted. That was an election that was
decided by a tiny matt margin. And remember this gets
into the weeds, but they had to do a revote,
and a lot of you have probably forgotten about this
(13:12):
because you just want to wipe it out. Of your brain.
They had to do a double revote in Georgia because
at the time you had to get over fifty percent
of the vote, and both of those guys, Perdue and
Leffler just narrowly didn't get there, and then they ran
the revote and then Democrats showed up. And you say, Okay,
what was the impact of that, Clay, Well, that's what
(13:33):
gave Biden control of the Senate. If only one of
those Senate races had gone in favor of Republicans, Biden
would have never been able to come in and enact
the awful agenda that he did in the first two
years of his administration. So it wasn't just the presidency
that was impacted by the fraud in Georgia. It was
(13:57):
also directly the Senate, which was it over to Democrat
control because of this fraud. And I do think we
should be following up on stories like these because a
lot of people just want to pretend, oh, it never happened,
there's nothing going on here. In reality, this was incredibly
consequential in terms of the impact that it had. I
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Welcome back in our number two final show of the
year for either Buck or myself. And Buck is already
on Christmas vacation. I will soon be joining my family
on Christmas vacation. The Boys, the Travis boys are all
out of school and super excited as kids are to
(15:53):
be out of school. I'll mention this again in the
third hour, but I wanted to make sure I didn't
forget to do it here. Thank you guys, from both
Buck and myself. We started this show, this ride with
you guys in twenty twenty one, so we've been with
you in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three,
twenty twenty four, and now twenty twenty five, so that
(16:16):
is parts of five years, and next year, when we
go into twenty twenty six, that will be six years.
And I know a lot of you out there are
thinking to yourself, there's no way that's true, because as
you age, the years moved by super fast, and so
I'm kind of blown away by that too. But we
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have enjoyed every single moment. We hope that we have
helped to make the country a little bit better than
it otherwise would have been. And we are certainly honored
every single day to sit down in front of this
microphone that Russia IMBA made famous and to help to
speak sanity into at all too often an insane world.
So we thank you for this opportunity, this privilege, and
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thank you guys for letting us move into a sixth
calendar year with all of you starting next year, and
it's been another really good year for growth. I've mentioned
this before, but I think it's worth noting when we
came in in twenty twenty one, we had three hundred
and fifty stations nationwide. As we are finishing twenty twenty five,
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we now have over five hundred and fifty stations nationwide,
so we have grown by two hundred stations over the
course of the past four or five years. And that's
a credit to you, guys, because you're listening all over
the country in all fifty states, and certainly we love
all of you that are listening right now on the podcast.
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But you can imagine a lot of people when you
step into Choose that are this massive say there's no
way on earth these two knuckleheads are going to last
any time at all. And it's credit to you, guys
that not only have we lasted, we have thrived. And
I think it's quite clear that we love hanging out
(18:05):
with you every single day for three hours. So thank
you all. Right. Opposite of thriving, I tease this last hour,
and as I was reading and getting ready for the
show today, I couldn't help but go through my usual
review of the stock market to see how things are
moving there. You guys know, I love to update you
(18:25):
as as needed, sometimes more often than some of you care,
on what's going on in the stock market, what's going
on in the media landscape. And this morning, Nike stock
is tanking. And I know some of you probably have
Nike stock, so I'm not trying to add to your
misery here in the holiday season, but Nike stock has
now dropped below sixty dollars a year. I wrote seven
(18:50):
years ago, in September of twenty eighteen, that it was
a bad idea to buy stock in Nike because Nike
had moved from a company that embraced the meritocracy. This
was really a large part the thesis of my book
Republicans by Sneakers two from a company that's goal was
(19:13):
to speak to sports fans everywhere and sell them sneakers
and sell them gear. Michael Jordan was right. He's now
admitted that this was a quote. He was asked in
the nineteen nineties, why aren't you political, Michael, Why do
you not speak out on so many different issues that
(19:34):
confront the country, and his answer was Republicans by sneakers.
Speaker 10 (19:39):
Two.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I love that answer because sports is a unifying force
and it should be the case. And I really believe this,
and I've founded much of my career on it that
when you're in a stadium or an arena and your
team wins, you shouldn't be thinking about anything other than
high fiving the person around you. And Jordan got that,
(20:02):
and it's why to this day, sorry for all the
people in Salt Lake. The most watched game in the
history of basketball was Game six, nineteen ninety eight NBA
Finals when Michael Jordan, yes, he pushed off Brian Russell
a little bit, stepped back and hit a jumper to
win the sixth title for the Chicago Bulls. In eight years.
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Over thirty million people watched that game. It is the
most watched game still in the history of basketball in America.
Never have more people watched a game. Lots of other
sports have set new record highs. Super Bowl, for instance,
that we just watched many of us in February of
this year, was the most watched football game that's ever
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aired in the history of the United States. So the
NFL has continued to set records, the NBA hasn't. Why
it's because Nike decided to go woke. I'm going to
play an ad for you from back in twenty eighteen
in a moment. But think about when you grew up.
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Nike epitomized athletic excellence, the meritocracy. If you remember, if
you grew up around my age, you will Bono's. Do
you remember the Bonos commercials that were so great? If
you remember all of the Michael Jordan ads for Nike,
if you are around my age and you remember how
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every time a new Air Jordan sneaker came out, we
all couldn't wait to see them. We hoped that we
might be able to afford them. Heck, some of y'all
are out there right now and your sneaker heads to
this day because you grew up on Air Jordan's great
stat for you. Even to this day, Michael Jordan's Air
(21:55):
Jordan brand out sells every current NBA player sneaker combined.
Think about how wild that is. That's how beloved Michael
Jordan was. When they released that documentary The Last Dance
during COVID, when there were no sports going on, more
(22:15):
people watched the documentary about the nineteen ninety Chicago Bulls
than watched the actual NBA Finals with Lebron James in
them that year. People would rather watch a documentary about
Michael Jordan than an actual game featuring Lebron James. Why
(22:38):
why did all this happen? Because deep down American DNA
craves excellence. We want to be the biggest, the best,
the baddest ass that has ever existed. That was Jordan.
Now can it come with Pratt falls? Yeah. Most people
(22:58):
who are driven to be the best at something, they
also have a few flaws. Elon Musk right now, I
think is the greatest American capitalist of all time. If
you look at what he's done with Tesla, if you
look at what he's doing with SpaceX, if you look
at what he's doing with x and Xai, the Boring Company,
(23:23):
all of them are extraordinary successes, the likes of which,
and I don't think I'm exaggerating here, it's the greatest
capitalist ever. Susie Wilds talked about this in The Vanity Fair.
But he's also a bit of an odd duck. He's
got a lot of kids, by a lot of different women,
fourteen kids, I think by a lot of different women
right now. It's probably not always really easy to get
(23:47):
along with Steve Jobs back at Apple, really difficult to
get along with, you know when you say, like Steve
Jobs did, my job is not to give people what
they want. It's to give people what they aren't even
aware they want. Yet I've got to create that kind
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of cocky and so if you're looking at that and
you're saying, yeah, there's a downside to it. But if
excellence is the standard, Nike made its focus the meritocracy,
the best man or the best woman. They wanted their
sneakers on you. They wanted to convince you that you
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would run faster, jump higher, that you would in some
way emulate the successes of the people that they put
on the Nike brand. It was all about excellence, the meritocracy.
Nike wanted the best man or the best woman, not
the best man pretending to be a woman, to win.
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And then a record scratch moment happened in twenty eighteen,
I'm gonna play this ad for you. Suddenly Nike decided
instead of Kobe Bryant, instead of Michael Jordan, instead of
the greatest athletes of their era representing the brand. They
were gonna pivot, they were gonna go woke. They gave
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millions of dollars to Colin Kaepernick, and they said this
is the new Nike, and this aired seven years ago.
Speaker 11 (25:25):
Listen, if people say your dreams are crazy, if they
laugh at what you think you can do, good stay
that way, because what non believers fail to understand is
that calling a dream crazy is not an insult, It's
(25:48):
a compliment. Don't try to be the fastest runner in
your school or the fastest in the world. Be the
fastest ever. Don't picture yourself wearing Obj's jersey. Picture OBJ
wearing yours. Don't settle for homecoming queen or linebacker.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Do both.
Speaker 11 (26:10):
Lose a hunerd twenty pounds and become an iron man
after beating a brain tumor. Don't believe you have to
be like anybody to be somebody. If you're born a refugee,
don't let us stop you from playing soccer for the
national team at age sixteen. Don't become the best basketball
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player on the planet.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Be bigger than.
Speaker 11 (26:37):
Basketballers about Believe in something, even if it means sacrificing
everything all.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Right, stop it right there. When they believe in something,
even if it means sacrificing everything, they try to quoke
their message in the guise of Colin Kaepernick. But people said,
wait a minute, Colin Kaepernick is making way more money
(27:07):
as an advocate than he ever had as a quarterback.
He got multiple Netflix documentary deals, He got paid millions
of dollars by Nike. If Colin Kaepernick had been the
best quarterback in the NFL and he had decided to
take a knee to protest anything, do you know what
would have happened. He would have stayed employed. But when
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they started to sell the face of the brand, now,
is Colin Kaepernick believe in something even if it means
sacrificing everything. Colin Kaepernick wasn't the best quarterback in the NFL.
I'm not sure he was the twenty fifth best quarterback
at the NFL at the time that he took a knee.
Michael Jordan, whatever you thought about him, heck Lebron James,
(27:52):
heck Kobe Bryant, whatever you thought about those guys, they
were the best of their era. The minute that Nike
he decided, Hey, we're going to focus on an athlete
for an advertising campaign that has nothing to do with
excellence on the field and everything to do with a
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political perspective. They turned their back on Michael Jordan. Republicans
by sneakers too, and they basically extended a middle finger
to half of America and said, screw y'all. And that's
being kind for what they said, left wing politics or nothing.
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When that ad ran Nike stock, I wrote about it
at USA Today, I've linked it on my Twitter account.
Nike stock was eighty five dollars a share. Seven years later,
stock market is up about one hundred and fifty percent.
That is, if you had a dollar in it, now
you've got nearly two fifty right all the rest of
(28:56):
the market has gone up substantially. Nike stock, because I
speak to you right now, is fifty nine dollars a share.
You would have lost if you had just seen that
cultural pivot like I did and said sell your Nike stock,
which I did, and everybody in the whole sports media
came after me and said, Klay Travis has no idea
what he's talking about. Seven years later, eighty five dollars
(29:20):
share price, Now it's fifty nine dollars. It's not just
that the price has declined substantially. It's that the rest
of the market has gone up substantially. You've lost a
ton of money if you bought Nike stock and held
it because they went woke and burned down the entire
framework of the company. All of the culture that was
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created with Michael Jordan was gone with Colin Kaepernick. And
I think it's emblematic. Some of you can say, well,
why should I care about Nike? This is what happens.
Culture wins. Culture wins in everything. The culture that you
create in your family, in your companympany, in your city,
(30:01):
in your state, in your country ultimately dictates the result
that you're going to get. And if you allow this
woke culture virus into your family, into your company, into
your city, into your state, into your country, the results
are going to be awful. Because the only way we
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advance is by embracing the meritocracy. The best among us
should have the highest possible results. When we start saying
the athletes we should aspire to embody are people who
are speaking out about politics whatever they are not about
the excellence of their actual performance, the culture is lost.
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This is what I think about all the time. Now
that I'm getting to be an old guy. Culture. Culture, culture,
the culture that you create in life dictates every element
of success individually and also in a larger context. It's
no surprise to me that the culture Nike created, which
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turned away from excellence in the meritocracy of Michael Jordan
to the left wing activism of Colin Kaepernick, led ultimately
to the cratering of the company. If you go woke,
everything else will be in disastrous rubble, doesn't matter what
it is. I hope that's a lesson that we're starting
(31:28):
to learn, but it's one that a lot of us
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Until then, Shield time, we are continuing to follow, they
now say the Brown shooter, the Brown University shooter, is dead.
He has shot himself and they are now saying that
he also likely as we started off the show discussing
killed the MIT professor as well, and we were talking
(33:32):
about culture as it pertains to Nike and how the
culture of whatever you create, your family, your own self,
if you don't have a big family, your company, your state,
your city, your country, culture ultimately dictates everything. If you
(33:53):
make good choices, then you're going over time to end
up in a better place than if you make bad choices.
And if you question that, I make a lot of
bad choices in my golf game. Golf as a metaphor
for life is not a bad symbol for those of
you out there that golf at all. How often do
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you find yourself out of the fairway very often?
Speaker 10 (34:16):
For me?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
How often do you find yourself with a bad lie?
Very often? And how often do you try to do
a hero shot to put yourself back where you should
have been if you had just stayed in the fairway
in the first place. A ton of times. If you
ever find yourself in golf thinking I'm going to cover
my face right after this shot, which I have found
(34:39):
myself doing a lot of times. You are attempting a
hero shot. If you are playing with a friend and
he's in the golf cart and he leans over in
preparation for your shot to ensure that you don't beat
him in the back of the head and kill him,
you are attempting a hero shot. If you have ever
started to take a golf and thought this shot might
(35:02):
well ricochet and take out my teeth or break my nose,
it's probably something you shouldn't do. Speaking of which you know,
I've done a bunch of these charity pro ams. Now
jaw rule the rapper, Did you guys see the video
of his tee shot where he hit at such an
improbable angle that the person who was filming it, who
(35:24):
was basically perpendicular to him, it should be very difficult
to hit a golf shot that way. You should be
safe in that tea box. Now he hit him. If
you haven't seen that video, that is an example of
a bad golf shot that is leading the culture a mock.
(35:45):
But I do think it's important and instructive. As we
finished twenty five to think about that quite a lot,
and I think about it in the context of a
quote that I heard back in the past that some
of you may have heard before. A college football coach
told me, we recruit our own problems. And I just
(36:06):
thought to myself, that is such a perfect way of
describing much of what goes on in life. We recruit
our own problems. Most of the time we worry about
external Oh what's that person going to do to me?
Oh what's that company going to do to me? Most
destruction is internal, not external, and we recruit our own problems.
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The coach was talking about the culture you create. The
culture you create dictates success. If you create a culture
that blames everybody else this woke mind virus. If you
create a culture that says, oh, actually, this company, well
it's it's taking advantage of people, it's pillaging them. If
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you create a culture of futility and blame, you're going
to have a culture that collapses. And I was thinking
about that right now because on the right wing in
this country. Well, let me first give you a little
bit of advice. My advice as we finish off twenty
twenty five, clip it. Share it with your kids, graduate
(37:14):
high school, get married, get a job. If you do
those three things. Your poverty rate in America is basically zero.
Graduate high school. Everybody can do it, no matter how
rich your mom or dad are, no matter where you're
going to school. Everybody can graduate high school. Everybody can
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eventually get married, and everybody can eventually have kids. After
those two things you do that you have a poverty
rate basically of zero. But I wanted to play a cut.
Ben Shapiro yesterday was speaking out at Amfest. Erica Kirk
Big News. I would say, the wife of Charlie Kirk
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endorsed Evans. But Ben Shapiro was speaking about truth and
trying to be honest with audience and what the impact
of that can be in a significant way. And I
thought he did a really good job of calling out
things that are untrue and people who are spreading untruth
(38:22):
sometimes people who are spreading untruths and being actually rewarded
for them. And I am scrolling through right now. Let's
start with Erica Kirk, because I thought Erica was good
in what she said. This is cut thirteen.
Speaker 12 (38:39):
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The
mission didn't end with Charlie's life. It's being lived out
through each and every one of you in your own way. Again,
it doesn't matter, your age, doesn't matter, your race, doesn't matter,
your background. Amfest is not about echo chambers. It's very
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important to know that because it's about sharpening one another's
it's about digging deeper into ideas instead of retreating and
the slogans, and it's about remembering that freedom requires responsibility
and truth requires courage.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Okay, that's well said, and certainly on this show we
like to say the First Amendment is alive and well,
I've always believed that the marketplace of ideas, sometimes you're
going to get a bloody nose, sometimes you're going to
get a black eye. People are going to come after
things that you say and they may not agree, and
that's okay. And the marketplace of ideas requires that the
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best ideas win. But also it requires that there be
a marketplace a variety of opinions, so that you're not
just constantly the preacher speaking to the choir. You have
to convert people to your way of thinking. You have
to evangelize for the truth and for the First Amendment.
(40:06):
So I thought Ben Shapiro here going after one of
his former employees, Candace Owens, over lies that she has
spread about who killed Charlie Kirk was pretty strong. Elbows punches,
sometimes scraps get nasty. This has cut fourteen.
Speaker 10 (40:25):
Because we have a duty to truth, we also have
a duty to provide you with evidence of the claims
that we make. Emotive accusations, conspiracy theories at just asking questions.
That's lazy and stupid and misleading. None of them are
a substitute for truth. None of them are a substitute
for evidence. So when Candice Owen says, I don't know no,
(40:47):
but I know that is retarded, and we are all
more retarded for having heard us.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Going after her aggressively. And then I thought, Ben again,
I watched his address yesterday, an I thought he did
a good job. Here's a little bit more of that. Look,
you have to speak not in the name of just
what people respond to, but also in the name of principle,
And if you have to balance between the two, it's
(41:15):
better to stand on principle than audience. I thought this
was really well said. Cut fifteen.
Speaker 10 (41:20):
The conservative movement is in serious danger. It is in
danger not just from a left that all too frequently
excuses everything up to and including murder. The conservative movement
is also in danger from Charlatans who claim to speak
in the name of principle but actually traffic in conspiracism
and dishonesty, who offer nothing but bile and despair, who
(41:40):
seek to undermine fundamental principles of conservatism by championing enervation
and grievance. These people are frauds, and they are grifters,
and they do not deserve your time, and they are
something worse than that, a danger to the only movement
capable of stopping the left from wrecking the country wholesale.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
I thought all of that was really well said, And
again it goes to threats. It's very easy to focus
on external threats. It makes us feel better if we
prepare for things that are out there, people who can
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do things to us. We want to protect our family,
we want to protect our communities. But most of the time,
most almost always of the time, failure is not external.
It's internal. And that's tougher to realize because we spend
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a lot of time trying to protect those that we
love from others. But often the failure that we create
is internal because we don't do a good enough job
taking care of the culture that we're creating. I don't
hear a lot of people talking about that. To me,
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the foundation of conservatism is first individual responsibility. If you
can't in some way control yourself and put yourself in
a position to make things better for your family, your state,
for your country, then how in the world can you
(43:28):
seek to police others. The first thing you have to
get right is internal, and that's hard right because that
requires self analysis. It requires frankly hard work, and most
people aren't willing to do that because it's easier to
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focus on external threats than it is to build a
strong culture internally. Now, Ben Shapiro's right on the left
have awful ideas. They will kill us for the ideas
that we even are willing to express. The left is
attacking Western civilization. But what I think we are learning
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as a country is it's actually internal. We don't.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Look.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
I'm concerned about what China does, I'm concerned about what
Russia does. I'm concerned about what people in other countries
might do to us. We have a military to protect
our nation from foreign invaders. But I'm more concerned about
(44:42):
what we're doing inside the country to freedom, to the
marketplace of ideas. Look at what's going on in Europe
right now. They just send it somebody to eighteen months
in prison for saying that I'm basically making criticisms on
(45:05):
social media about immigration. I was just scrolling through this
morning getting ready for the show, and I saw that
they had pulled a card off of the marketplace in England.
It was a holiday card with the Grinch on it.
(45:29):
This according to the Daily Mail, the headline that the
card said this Christmas, I'm identifying as a Grinch, had
a picture of the Grinch. It was pulled off shelves
because quote, it invalidated the lived experiences of trans people.
(45:55):
What are we doing? Internal destruction of Western civilization is
clearly the goal, and it's not being foisted upon us externally.
It's a cultural battle that is occurring inside of this
country every day, and I think Nike is emblematic of that.
(46:15):
I think it's important for you guys to see it.
I think certainly what Ben Shapiro is pointing to is
evidence of that as well. We have to internally battle
with strength in order to create an external culture that
is worthy of preservation. Think about it a little bit
as we roll into the holiday season, and I don't
(46:37):
want to be entirely serious on the final show of
the year, so we're also going to play some of
your funny takes on the Christmas holiday season movies, which
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Speaker 2 (48:28):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Okay, final
half hour of the year. Let's have some fun again.
I want to reiterate, thank you guys, so so much.
Twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, twenty three, twenty four.
Now we're complete, completing twenty twenty five five different parts
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of the calendar year that both Buck and I have
had the honor and the privilege to be able to
talk with you guys every single day for three hours.
I think we have made a difference. I think we
have impacted the culture in a positive way, and that's
a tremendous credit to you guys. When we came in,
we had three hundred and fifty affiliate radio stations. Now
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we have five hundred and fifty over five hundred and fifty.
A lot of you are new listeners. Some of you
have been with us from the moment we first sat
down in front of these microphones on June twenty first,
and from our family to years. We can't say thank
you enough for the time that you give to us
every single day and that you have given to us
over the past five years. We will be back together
(49:36):
on January fifth. We've got a lot of great guests
who are going to be guest hosts, who are going
to be in there. I'm gonna get to your calls.
I'm gonna get some talkbacks. Let me tell you a
positive story quickly from my own family. So you guys
know that I went to Vanderbilt Law School, met my
wife Laura there, and I love Vanderbilt University, my hometown
(50:00):
of Nashville. A lot of times people get frustrated. Hey,
how do we win culture battles? Clay, Hey, look at
what's going on at my company. Look at what I'm
having to deal with. That doesn't make any sense. I
want to tell you a quick story of the impact
of culture and how it can lead to tremendous outcomes.
Some of you will remember, in fact, almost all of
(50:22):
you will remember, the protests that took place on college
campuses all over the country in twenty twenty three twenty
twenty four, in the wake of the terror attacks that
happen by Hamas on innocent Israeli's twelve hundred deaths, the
worst day of death for people who were of the
(50:44):
Jewish faith since the Holocaust, and all over the country,
places like Columbia on the East coast, places like UCLA
on the West coast, and many different points in between.
All these college kids, including my alma mater, undergrad of
George Washington Universe, all these college kids and their supporters,
provokers one might say, took over campus set up tents,
(51:09):
took over campus buildings, and argued that in actuality, the
Hamas terrorists were the ones who were being unfairly treated.
They said, globalized the Intifada unfortunately we've seen far too often,
but we just saw it on Bondai Beach. What globalized
(51:30):
the inta fada actually means. It means innocent Jewish people
are killed for being Jewish. It is the very definition
of good versus evil. You know what happened as those
protests were taking place all over the country, Some schools
actually stood up against those protests and even had counter protests.
And among them were many very prominent Southern schools, the
(51:55):
SEC and the ACC schools among them. My oldest SUN
is in the process of applying to colleges right now.
It's crazy to me that I'm going to have an
eighteen year old in January and I'm going to have
a college kid on a campus this fall. What we
are seeing happen in this season of application is all
(52:18):
of those schools in the SEC and the ACC, all
these Southern schools, and there were some Arizonas of the
world out west as well. The places where the students
stood for good are seeing applications skyrocket. And I'm excited
to have a kid who's going to be enrolled at
(52:40):
an SEC school this fall. A big reason why he
is is because of the way that Vanderbilt University in particular,
responded when they had pro Palestine protesters take over the
main campus building in the center of the campus, Kirkland Hall.
(53:00):
I don't think this story has gotten told enough, but
the chancellor of Vanderbilt's guy named Daniel Deermeyer. He walked
in one morning as the protests were going on. All
these kids had stormed Kirkland Hall. He walked in, turned
around and walked back out, got on the phone with
Nashville police and said, come in and get them all.
(53:22):
We're not letting this happen. It's one thing to have
a principle of free speech. It's another thing to say,
as Vanderbilt does and all these sec schools do, we're
not going to allow you to take over campus buildings.
Almost immediately the local Nashville police came in and they
(53:43):
arrested all the kids that were in their protesting. Then
something interesting happened. Chancellor of Vanderbilt. He said, if these
are students, I want them kicked out of the school immediately.
They don't get to finish the semester, their credits don't transfer.
If they are students and they were trying to occupy
(54:05):
this building, they're gone period. Vanderbilt immediately kicked all of
those nincome poop kids out. You know what happened. Applications
have skyrocketed because earlier I was talking about culture, and
(54:27):
it turns out culture and bravery. It's contagious. When you
stand up for something significant in your life, other people
want to be with you. They actually want to join you.
They want to provide even more steel in your spine.
(54:50):
When I was a kid, nobody wanted to come down
to Tennessee to go to school. They would say things like,
do y'all even have run and water down there? Now
you have got moms and dads in La Chicago, New
York City, some of the richest people in the entire country,
(55:11):
people who could send their kids anywhere, and they're saying
no to Columbia, and they're saying no to UCLA, and
they are sending their kids to SEC and ACC schools
overwhelming numbers because they're fed up with what they have seen.
(55:36):
And right now, I'm excited to have my kid at
Vanderbilt starting in the fall. I don't know that he
would have gone to Vanderbilt if he hadn't seen the
way that the chancellor responded there and I know a
lot of you have kids and grandkids applying to schools
all over the country. Ole Miss got a big game
coming up this weekend against Tulane. I'm gonna be honest,
(55:58):
and I don't want to hear too many old miss.
Ole Miss would sometimes admit dead people back in the
day if you paid the application fee. Ole Miss was like,
you're in back in the day twenty. I'm not trying
to tell you, Hotty Toddy, I'm betting on you guys
to beat too lane. But everybody who knows everybody out
(56:18):
there knows what I'm talking about. If you had a
kid in the South and they got in a lot
of trouble, but you still wanted them to go to
a college, Ole Miss would welcome them with open arms.
Hey they're rebels. It's hard to get into every SEC
school now, and that's because culture wins and also culture loses.
(56:50):
And I made this decision in my own life. I
went to George Washington University. You guys may remember me
talking about it some on the program. They changed the
name of the mascot from colonials to revolutionaries. And that
might not sound like a lot. You might say, Clay,
you're why do you care? Well, because of why they
did it. They said they were changing colonials because it
(57:14):
had too much of a connection to colonialism. Excuse me,
we were the colonists. We were actually the people fighting
back against the larger country, the colonial army fought against
(57:37):
Great Britain. You can say, well, it's not that big
of a deal. They just changed the name to revolutionaries. No,
instead of having steel in their spine, they listened to morons.
Worse than that, they negotiated with them. Even worse than that,
they let them win. Culture matters. The culture of the
Southeastern Conference is one where we know the difference between
(58:00):
good and evil. The culture of Southern schools in Red States,
where I'm fortunate to live, is one where we are
proud to stand on the side of good and speak
up against evil. As we roll into this holiday season,
I want for all of you to think about that.
Are you standing up for a culture of good against evil?
(58:21):
Are you supporting free speech? And are you shouting down morons?
Because if you are not, then I would submit you
are enabling a culture to take over wherever you are.
That is going to lead us into more perilous times.
I thought about this I just sent in a clip.
(58:43):
Strength matters, steal in the spine matters. Listen to what
former Hamas hostage Omaer shim Tav said. The only person
that Hamas feared was President Trump. He was in the
Hamas tunnels under the ground, stolen away from his friends
(59:07):
and family, one of two hundred and fifty innocent people
who was kidnapped by the evil of Hamas. Evil people
fear strength, bravery, courage. He is imperfect, as all of
us are, but he says things changed when President Trump won.
Hamas didn't fear Biden. They feared Trump. Listened to cut
(59:30):
twenty eight.
Speaker 13 (59:31):
I consider something else by the terrorists to help me captive.
There was one man they feared the most, President Donald Trump.
When he was elected, the way they treated me changed completion.
They were terrified of him, and they want to stay
(59:53):
the scary So the old world hears it now on
be asked of. The hostages are an our nation. Thank
you President Donald Trump for our freedom. He podcast he
got us home.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
I love that. Sometimes you gotta have a guy that
the bad guys are afraid of. Weak men are not
making bad guys afraid. Biden was weak. Trump is strong
and It made all the difference for those hostages who
were back this holiday season, this Honkah to be able
(01:00:34):
to celebrate their freedom with their families. All right, we'll
finish with some fun stuff, But I was just thinking,
I want to give you a little bit of a
charge headed into the holiday season about good versus evil
and winning and triumphing in the marketplace of ideas, and
how it has real significance and real consequences. But you know,
football's fun. We don't always have to be super serious.
(01:00:56):
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