December 22, 2025 • 33 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show, guest-hosted by Brett Winterble from News Talk 1110 & 99.3 WBT in Charlotte, delivers a powerful mix of historical perspective, national security analysis, and passionate listener engagement. Brett opens the hour by drawing parallels between the fall of the Berlin Wall and today’s fight for freedom, emphasizing that liberty cannot be “set and forget”—it requires constant vigilance and resolve. He argues that just as Reagan, Thatcher, Pope John Paul II, and Lech Wałęsa stood firm against communism, Americans today must resist the creeping influence of socialism and radical ideologies threatening the nation’s core values.
Immigration dominates early discussion, sparked by a caller highlighting tragedies like the murders of Laken Riley and Ella Wood, which Brett frames as consequences of failed border policies under Biden. He contrasts this with Trump’s success in securing the southern border and his aggressive stance against narco-terrorism in Venezuela, explaining how current policies aim to choke off oil revenues to Cuba, Iran, and China while dismantling the communist grip in Latin America. Brett underscores that these moves are not just foreign policy wins—they directly protect American families from drug cartels poisoning U.S. streets.
The hour also tackles national security threats and cultural resilience, featuring a clip from Tulsi Gabbard at Turning Point USA warning about the rise of Islamist ideology as a long-term danger to freedom. Brett amplifies this message with a striking example: Syrian Christians publicly protesting under threat of violence, ringing church bells and carrying crosses in defiance of Islamic rule. He calls this a modern echo of the courage that toppled the Iron Curtain, urging Americans to reclaim moral clarity and fight for faith-based values.
Listeners weigh in with passionate takes on accountability, government corruption, and runaway spending. Callers demand term limits, criticize foreign aid waste, and lament the lack of consequences for prior administration scandals. Brett agrees, advocating for structural reforms like restoring state control over Senate appointments and ending the culture of career politicians. He also addresses concerns about political indoctrination in universities, warning that socialist ideas are being normalized for a new generation—a trend echoed by a caller who fled communism and now sees alarming parallels in U.S. politics.
Hour 2 closes with Brett’s rallying cry: freedom requires active engagement, not complacency. He urges citizens to run for office, hold leaders accountable, and reject the moral decay fueling radical agendas. This segment blends historical lessons, current policy wins, and grassroots activism into a compelling call to action for conservatives determined to safeguard America’s future.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck Show, wishing you
and your family a very merry Christmas and a happy
New Year, and.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome back our number two of the Clay and Buck Show.
It's great to be with you. My name is Brett Witterbolt.
Typically you hear me over at Charlotte's FM News Talk
one oh seven point nine WBT in the Queen City.
I've always looked to try to find where the King is,
but he's not around. The Queen City is around, and
(00:29):
it is great to be with you. Telephone number if
you wish to oppine eight hundred and two two two
eight eight to two. So we had this great conversation
going on in the beginning hour, and I'm sure you
probably be able to pick it up on a podcast,
et cetera. But here's the thing that I think is
hugely important. I'm old enough to remember when there was
a Berlin Wall. Many of you remember the Berlin Wall.
(00:51):
Many of you people remember the Soviet Menace and all
this sort of stuff that existed back in a different time,
in a different place, And I'm old enough to remember that. Well,
we just had to live side by side with evil
and good, us being good, the Kakami's being evil, and
(01:15):
a very interesting thing happened. Once upon a time in
about nineteen ninety, the wall started to crack. It was
eighty nine into ninety the wall started to crack. People
started to decide, we want to be a part of
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the European experience of the free part of the countryside.
And lo and behold it happened. But remember, if you're
in the same sort of age run that I'm in
that many of you are in, it seemed like it
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would never happen. It seemed like it would never occur,
like we were going to be stuck with this forever.
And I mean, I remember, I remember a Kennedy going
and trying to cut a deal with the Soviets, saying, yeah,
we've got to get rid of Ronald Reagan. You guys
(02:17):
remember that story. You remember all of that sixty minutes
was going to give all this loving coverage to the
vicious people there in the Soviet Union. I remember that.
You remember that you knew about that. And they decided
that they were going to side with the Soviets and
not side with the American people who had elected Ronald
(02:43):
Wilson Reagan. And you know, what is so interesting I
told you at the terminus of that last segment, in
that first hour, I told you that that Sherman gave
as a gift to A. Raham Lincoln the city of
Savannah in eighteen sixty four. It also happens that this
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is a historic date, a historic place, a historic issue
that we can look at as well, because it was
about this time, in that time that the walls came down,
and people said it was going to be impossible, and
people said it could never happen. It took one thing, resolve. Resolve.
(03:36):
It took the notion of not playing games, not appeasing,
not sucking up to any of the Soviet leaders. It
took resolve. It took a pope, it took a president,
and it took a prime minister. And oh, by the way, Lec.
(03:57):
Willenza was a very instrumental person and who was out
there in the Goadansk shipyards saying, we have got to
fight for our freedom. We have got to fight. This
is the challenge of our time. There's an old commercial
that ran decades ago, and it was about a product
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and they said, all you got to do is set
it and forget it. The problem with freedom, the problem
with achieving important aims is you cannot set it and
forget it. You have got to sit there and you've
got to continuously persuade people, talk to people, engage people.
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Because the other side and you know what the other
side is, and you know what the other side is selling,
and you understand what the other side is trying to do.
They they are going to go to work twenty four
to seven, three sixty five period, full stop. And that
that is something we can do. That is something we
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should not do because because freedom is the goal. And
so when you look at this and you say to yourself, Okay,
how do we do this? What must we do? Well,
I'm going to reach out and take a call right
(05:22):
out of the box here and I'm going to go
to Tommy in Connecticut. Tommy, welcome to the program.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Oh hi, great, great, great man and tremendous. But we
have to look at a lot of things that are
going on in this country. I'll give you an example.
It's going to be two years in February, we lost
a young lady, a strong young lady by the name
of Lake and Riley.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
She was murdered.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
She wanted to be a nurse, practitioner. Yes, sir, a
Brown University. We lost the beautiful young lady who wanted
to be a surgeon, Ella Wood. So they're now killing
and murdering the best of our young Americans as this
country gets invaded. And I personally really believe that it's
about time with the sixty five Immigration Actors addressed and
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is appealed by the Congress and then just getting rid
of because.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Even with these visas.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I've been out to the airport a few times out
of MOE vacation.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
I see people coming in. There aren't tourist visas. They're
coming in with these giant bags of luggage. Who go's
on vacation with four or five giant bags and luggage.
Those are people coming here who don't want to leave
this country. So listen, if we don't do anything about it,
because in line, Omar is not going to be she's
not going to be deported. She's gonna be in charge
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of the largest atomic arsenal of weapons on the planet
in the United States America.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
When she becomes powerful with well, well.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
No, no, no, no, because she's not but she's not.
She can't, she can't run for president. She wasn't born
in the United States, she's not going to be. But well,
let me just take a take you at at that
at that point right there. Okay, and I do appreciate
the call, Tommy. Look, we have got to understand that
you have to tell people what the plan is going
to be. You have to reflect in that plan, how
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it's going to be delivered, and how it is then
it is being maintained. That's the only three things that
you have to do.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I know you were saying earlier on that you wanted
to get rid of the filibuster. Well, fill that is
certainly a potential thing that you could do. Absolutely, and
we have to be ready though, if you do get
rid of the filibuster, that we go and sit back
and we say, okay, well, then we've gotten rid of
the filibuster. We have to hope that the Democrats are
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not going to take over, because you know full well
they will explode spending, they will explode the size of
the Supreme Court, they will explode, you know, explode everything
of those that you do not necessarily want to have
happened in the United States. And so that's the difficulty.
(08:03):
It's the same sort of thing that I was just
talking about with Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher and the
Pope and Equalensa taking the reins of power and saying, listen,
we have got to stop the evil that is in
this country, and we are going to get rid of
the evil that is across the way. But it takes work.
(08:25):
You have to persuade people. Immigration. Let's be honest, Immigration
is being handled very effectively right now by the way
the Trump administration is doing. You've got a bunch of
judges saying you can't, you can't put these people deported.
You can't do those sorts of things. But those are
people that we have to deal with. Then we have
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to figure out, Okay, let's pass legislation, let's do these
sorts of things that have to happen. But by and large,
the border is secure at the Mexican border, and now
you have to go through the process of trying to
figure out who's still in the country and who shouldn't
be in the nation. And unfortunately, in blue cities, blue
you know, blue areas, they're going to continue to push
(09:08):
for this. Why because when Joe Biden opened the border
back into in twenty twenty one, he decided we were
going to bring more people into this country because we
need a permanent underclass. It's why they all went to
blue cities. It's why they all went to the blue
areas and they said, Okay, we're gonna go over there
and we're gonna backfill for the teachers' unions and all
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of those sorts of things. But when you get down
to brass tax and you look at what Trump's been
able to do in that regard, that's a big win.
It's very much in line with with all the other
things that he's been doing. Now he is beginning in
earnest to try to fix the problems down south of
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the border, further south, much further south in Venezuela. And
now this is where the rubber meets the road. And
that is why, that is why you want to see
an aggressive stance, and you're seeing it with Donald Trump.
What Trump is doing. And I'm not I'm not I'm
not a kiss up to him. I'm just telling you
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about the policies he's doing. Now, we're going to see
that Cuba is going to get starved of oil because
of what's happening with the with the with the different
things that are coming up out of Venezuela number one,
Number two, China is going to be over a barrel literally,
and Iran is going to be starved for oil for
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the money that is coming into the coffers. This is
systemically important because that is how you get to breaking
the grip of the communist menace in Venezuela and beyond.
Remember when Hugo Chavez took over in Venezuela, he voided
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all of our rights to explore for oil that we
paid for. Now Donald Trump is trying to get it
put back on the good foot so that we can
see a freer place there and not a place that's
sending us poison to murder our children. You mentioned Lake
and Riley. God bless her and God bless her family,
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and we should not ever see another person like that
have to lose their lives again. My name is Brett Witterble.
I'm in for Clay and Buck. It's a pleasure to
be here. Eight hundred and two A two to eight
A two back after.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
This news and politics, but also a little comic relief.
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the vree
iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
And I have Brett Winable. It's a pleasure to be
with you in for Clay and Buck. Eight hundred two
eight two two eight a two is the number for
you to opine, to give us your thoughts, your takes,
all these sorts of things. We will be going back
to the phone and in just a moment, but in
the in the meantime, I want to I want to
let you hear some of the great stuff that's been
happening in the last couple of days.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
One of the things that I thought was particularly good
in this is cut number five, Cut number five. D
n I Tolsi gabbered at TPUSA talking about the threats
we face.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Go there's a threat to our freedom that is not
often talked about enough, and it is the greatest near
and long term threat to both our freedom and our security,
and that is the threat of Islamist ideology. It is
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propagated by people who not only do not believe in freedom,
they're fundamental ideology is antithetical to the foundation that we
find in our Constitution and Bill of Rights, which is
that our Creator endowed upon us in alienable rights, the
right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. So
(13:23):
Charlie focused on this quite a bit. He talked about
it in ways that very few others did because he
understood this direct threat to freedom.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
So let me give you just a glimpse, just a
glimpse of something that is downright remarkable. And this is
not this is not fake, This is not you know, nonsense,
this is real. What if I told you this is
going to be Cut seven? Mic Syrian Christians went out
(13:56):
and protested in Syria yesterday. Now remember this is a
place where by and large Islam rules the roost. They
got so ready to do this they were playing church
bells in Syria. Now you know, and I know if
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you're familiar with Islam, they do not want bells rung.
They don't want any of that to be respected. That
there is a very different sort of an ideology here.
But listen to this. This is cut seven. Obviously, these
are people who are chanting and carrying crosses and doing
all the things you would expect in a religious procession
in Syria.
Speaker 8 (14:42):
Cut seven.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That reminds me of what we saw when the wall
came down against the Communists. These are people who took
their lives in their hands and understood very clearly that
they have a right written on their heart to defend
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the faith, the faith that was there before Syria was
an Islamic country. That is something that is incredible. See,
it's easy to be demoralized. It's easy to say we
can't do it, it's impossible, we can't get it done.
Ladies and gentlemen, we can. We can. All it takes.
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All it takes is for us to recognize that we
are in charge of our own destinies. And it's not easy,
and it's not free, and it's not any of that.
What it is in front of us right now is vision.
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It's vision, it's belief, and it's understanding that what's right
is right and wrong is wrong. We've got plenty more
straight ahead. It's a pleasure to be with you. I'm
Brett Witterbule. You're in. I'm in for Clay and Buck
eight hundred two A two two eight eight two back
after this and I'm Brett Witterable. It's great to be
(16:52):
in for our Clay and Buck today. Eight hundred two
eight two to eight eight two. Taking your phone calls,
your takes, your thoughts. What are you guys thinking about
with this jackpot? This big jackpot. Is it going to grow?
Is it going to go? I mean, who knows? This
is going to be a very interesting time. And boy,
I really hope that's not somebody in a blue state
(17:14):
with a big, ugly title there that they got to
go for. Let's go out and talk to David and Arizona. David,
welcome to the show on Clay and Buck show.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
How you doing.
Speaker 9 (17:26):
Thanks for taking a call, but you're doing a great
job covering for claim Buck.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
By the way, thank you so much.
Speaker 9 (17:31):
This is just this is a particular random mind, but
this is to every single politician out there who may
or may not be listening. Whether you're a local, county,
state or federal, you folks need to remember one thing.
You don't work for the Republican Party. You don't work
for the Democrat Party. You work for us, your constituents,
(17:53):
and it's time you start remembering that if the party
tells you to do something, you better listen to your
constituents because we're awake now. Because you're an incumbentant doesn't
necessarily mean you're going to have this job for life.
Because we're getting sick of it. We are. It's time
to remember that one it's America first. We're the ones
(18:15):
paying the bills, right, you're the ones wasting the money.
It's time for you to remember who you work for.
That's temple.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Let me ask you. I want to ask you a question.
What is your outside of what you just said here?
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
What what was your biggest disappointment in terms of politics?
And what was what's been the biggest good thing that
you've seen.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
In the world of politics?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Can you give me an answer on each of those.
Speaker 9 (18:44):
My biggest disappointment is the amount of money we're wasting
in foreign aid. I mean, seeing some of these things
that those came up with. Why the hell are we
spending money to develop a sesame street thing in Farzi?
Speaker 10 (18:56):
Right?
Speaker 11 (18:56):
Why are we sending money to the Irish people to
have some gay production done? And I'm not gay bashing,
and I don't you know, I don't have a problem
with Islamism, So why is our money going to everybody
on the damn planet?
Speaker 9 (19:09):
It needs to be here. We got problems here we
need to take care of first. It's like you don't
borrow money from you know, big money from Peter to
pay Paul. That's what's happening. It's time to spend it here.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yep, what's your what's your biggest good thing that you
can think about in this in this term.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
The borders closed.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
M hmmm, that's isn't it incredible? When it's like something
that exactly hits in the right way, you go this boom,
I know immediately and and look, you're right, the doche thing,
all of that stuff that went out that was unbelievable,
And unfortunately I wished I wished that they would have
(19:51):
put that thing in book form so that everybody could
read it like like any other kind of a scandal thing,
because that was a scandal. That money that was scandalous
in the extreme, and unfortunately nobody, you know, you got
to go and hunt and peck and try to find it.
And that's that's a real problem. So here's what I
would say.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
To you, though.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
At the same time, do you do you are you
engaged in politics? Do you do things like this? Do
you go out there? Have you thought about running for office?
Speaker 9 (20:20):
My wife's trying to talk me out of it.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
But yes, good, okay, No, we need citizen legislators and
people who have spine in their in their in their
you know, a strong spine because otherwise it's going to
be the same old Nancy Pelosi swallwell, YadA, YadA YadA.
It's the same old, same old people. And that's that's
(20:42):
that's not how it should be. Great stuff. I appreciate
you calling into the program. Okay, let's go to Mike
in North Carolina. Mike, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 11 (20:54):
Hey, bred Hey, great job for playing Buck. Awesome program.
Longtime listener, first caller've been trying to follow things in.
I got kind of a perspective. I know it may
have been talked about it, maybe not. My biggest concern
right now is we've got so many politicians that have
went into Congress and they've all become wealthy. I'm a
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common tax payer, worked my whole life, never been to jail,
never got in any trouble, always did things the right way.
Believe me the irs. If I don't pay them twelve
dollars and eighty three cent, I get a letter. So
accountability to me seems to be the biggest problem that
we have in our society right now, because we don't
as citizens. I don't think people know who to believe
(21:38):
and not believe. I know that our framers that developed
the Constitution.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
They were all.
Speaker 11 (21:43):
Business owners, engineers, people that had already made wealth, and
all they wanted to do was create a society that
was a better mean for our society. But somewhere in
the translation between getting to Congress and being representatives went
away from trying to help people as opposed to them
lining their own pockets. Now I'm not saying it's one
(22:04):
side to the other, but sure if they can audit
me for twelve dollars and eighty three cent, goodness, they
can audit somebody who has now amassed a thirty million
dollar bank account for being a representative in Minnesota. And
that's that's my question. But again, those things, you know,
just kind of spike me, that's all.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You're exactly No, no, everything you just said I co signed absolutely,
because here's the problem. Once upon a time, and thank
you for the call, Mike at North Carolina. Once upon
a time, and it wasn't really that far long ago.
The vision for being a citizen in Congress person or
(22:42):
a senator. But obviously, remember the senators used to be
picked by their governments to send them to Washington, d C.
Now we get direct election, and I think that's a
huge part of the problem that exists. Once upon a
time it was this eight legislators who would say, Hey Joe,
(23:02):
you're gonna go and represent us in Washington. Hey Steve,
you're gonna go and register, you know, be the guy
in Washington, uh for for our for our state, and
you're gonna represent our state. You're not going to represent
Republicans Democrats. But when you look at the House, the
House famously was an and a machine that worked as
(23:25):
almost like basically a part time legislature. It was one
of these things where it was like going on jury duty.
You were gonna have to go down to Washington, d C.
You're gonna have to serve for like two years, and
then you would go back home to your to your business,
to your plantation, to your whatever. It was gonna be right.
(23:47):
And so unfortunately, as as Franklin Delano Roosevelt complained about,
he said, the worst thing that you could have possibly
done in Washington d C. Was introduced air conditioning. Because
once you introduced air conditioning in Washington, DC, as anybody
who goes to Washington DC and the summer knows, you
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have a twenty four seven three sixty five government that
is now in effect at all times. And so now
you've got lobbyists, now you've got people coming in trying
to give you money, all this sort of stuff, and
you end up with not being less free, but being
almost entirely less free.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
This is the.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Challenge that we have to kind of overcome. And so
I would love to go back to senators are picking,
are being picked by the legislature, and I would love
to see term limits on these folks, right, one, two,
whatever it's going to be. But because what that does
is it brings in new blood constantly. And you don't
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have Nancy Pelosi's and you don't have swall Wells, and
you don't have Schumer, and you don't have you know,
you know, Tom Tillis and those folks. And I'm not
trying to pick on people, but you get what I'm saying.
You go in nobody, nobody, nobody has to stay there forever.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
They like it.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Power, power is sexy, right, that's what they want. Let's
go to Mike online. One. Mike, welcome to the program
out of Ohio.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Hey, thanks Brent, appreciate.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
You having me on and good job, thank you, sir.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Yeah, I thought I would chip in my thoughts about
the the most positive events of the last year, and
this term that being the I echo that of the
border situation and kind of proof positive that all we
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needed was a new president.
Speaker 10 (25:55):
To echo Trump's comment, it is.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Stated as the Indian speech, Yes, sir.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
And then my most disappointing.
Speaker 10 (26:05):
Observation for this current term is the absence of any consequences.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
Ah.
Speaker 10 (26:13):
I do think we've had enough time that's.
Speaker 12 (26:16):
Transpired and Sea was inaugurated, and as well as the
the settling in of the Congress and the Senate, that
we should have seen some evidence of consequences for people
that have done what they've done in this country in
the prior administration. Nobody's gone to jail, and it's very disappointing.
Speaker 10 (26:40):
I'm a grandfather. I have recently retired, and uh, you know,
I'd like to think that, uh you know, there's some
example of accountability and all of that that you know
my kids and my grandkids, and I haven't seen it.
And candidate has tightened up my wallet in terms of
(27:03):
contribution to any political party or candidate here. I vote
with every election, I participate in the process. I have
family that is involved in serving in public office, and.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
That's just my kids.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Okay, well, listen, I'm gonna give I'm going to give
you the same prescription that I've given to some other people.
You should get involved. You should get And I'm not
being a wise guy. I think we need more citizens
being being involved in this sort of stuff because those
are the people who are going to be able to
figure out, Okay, where does this corruption go?
Speaker 10 (27:37):
Now?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
One of the things that I think we're going to
see once once we get to the place where this
war in Ukraine ends, I think there's a lot of
come up and that's got to come out of that
as well. But also at the same time here in
the United States, like on Tara Firma in the United States,
thank you for the call. What we have to do
(28:01):
is we have to go about and see what's happening
in terms of the stuff that was done so wrongly,
throwing the military out, and obviously Trump has done stuff
about that, forcing people to get the shots, all that
sort of stuff. They have cleaned up a lot of that,
but it's not to people's satisfaction necessarily. Now, let me
(28:23):
make one last observation very quickly, because I'm due for
a break here in just a minute, and it's this.
I don't see anybody on the board, and we're now
an hour and forty six minutes into the program. I
don't need people saying much about the Epstein files. And
(28:44):
I'm starting to think that maybe it's because of what
I heard earlier today from a number of people that well, yeah,
because it's a Bill Clinton scandal. It's that sort of
stuff that they've tried to attach to Trump and it
hasn't been the thing that they thought it would be. Again,
(29:05):
they don't even want to impeach him anymore. What's going on.
I'm Brett witterbal In for Clay and Buck eight hundred
and two two eight eight to two, stick around more after.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
This Saving America one thought at a time and Clay,
Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio
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Speaker 2 (29:31):
Buck Sexton here in the entire Clay and Buck Show,
wish you and your family a warm Christmas season and
a joyful new year. And I'm Brett winterble In for
Clay and Buck. Great to be with you. I'm always
happy to talk to this very very smart audience, got
great people out here. Let's let's take a let's take
a walk on the wild side.
Speaker 10 (29:53):
Shall we.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Let's go to Dimitri from Texas. Welcome to the program,
to meet free line for.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Thank you for taking my phone culture.
Speaker 13 (30:03):
Yes, I came to the United States exactly year after
the Berlin Wall kind of fell apart, and lived here
thirty five years now, and it's like me going back the.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Going back in time on that dround hawk day.
Speaker 13 (30:21):
I wake up thirty five years later in the same
bed and the quap clicks in the morning. I hear
aoc screaming throughout her law socialism, redistribution of wealth is good,
mom Donnie saying we're gonna take from the rich give
to the poor. Private ownership is bad, private ownership is good.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
So my point is.
Speaker 13 (30:46):
People came here thirty years ago looking for freedom, economic freedom,
freedom for religion.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
And two hundred and fifty years after America's two.
Speaker 13 (30:56):
Hundred and fifty anniversary, we're going to celebrate a year
from now in July. We are going back into the
same position that we started running away from the king,
running away from the church, running away from prosecution of
religion and freedom.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
And imagine, imagine what.
Speaker 13 (31:13):
That will reflect to that new generation that is taking
all her note their notes from the and from the facebooks.
The same thing with Lenin and Stalin. They brainwashed the
new generation and injecting their brains with all those ideas
which not necessarily work in real life.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Okay, so let's let me ask you a question. Do
you see the university system in the Americans, in the
in America as as the same sort of thing as
you would see? Okay, I agree with you, exactly. I agree.
I mean that's that's and and and not only that
they pay for the privilege of getting indoctrinated, which is bizarre.
Speaker 11 (31:53):
It's nuts.
Speaker 13 (31:54):
Imagine Yeah, at one point, the last point, imagine if
someone like me gets elected into office.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yes, every time Democrats propose a law or idea, I
will go.
Speaker 13 (32:06):
I did paper on this in nineteen seventy five under
the Commons regime.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
I I gotta see on it. It's not gonna work.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Wow. Okay, now you're the kind of guy that's gotta
go get involved now because you you actually you touched
the hot stove and realized I'm never touching that thing again.
And that's the See, these are the people like you,
Dimitri and other people who have experienced things like this,
who are the greatest champions for freedom and liberty, because otherwise, uh,
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you know, these people are gonna get they're gonna get burnt,
they're gonna they're gonna find out what's going on here,
and unfortunately it's a it's a huge problem. I'm so
glad you're in our country, and I'm so glad you
settled here, and I'm so glad that you're you're not
back in the bad old days because you are somebody
who can inform a lot of people. Thanks so much, Dmitri.
What a what a great eight lesson. They're all around us, folks,
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they are all around us. We've got the good, we
got the bad, we got the ugly. But the reality
is we can chart our own course. We have the
ability to tell folks, to teach folks, to show folks
the people, because this is not theoretical. This is the
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loss of your nation if we do not walk carefully, period,
full stop. Coming up next a whole bunch of great stuff.
We're gonna make you laugh, We're gonna make you think,
and most of all, gonna talk a little bit about
are you spending more this Christmas or less? Inquiring minds
(33:53):
want to know
Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck Show, wishing you
and your family a very merry Christmas and a happy
New Year, and.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome back our number two of the Clay and Buck Show.
It's great to be with you. My name is Brett Witterbolt.
Typically you hear me over at Charlotte's FM News Talk
one oh seven point nine WBT in the Queen City.
I've always looked to try to find where the King is,
but he's not around. The Queen City is around, and
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it is great to be with you. Telephone number if
you wish to oppine eight hundred and two two two
eight eight to two. So we had this great conversation
going on in the beginning hour, and I'm sure you
probably be able to pick it up on a podcast,
et cetera. But here's the thing that I think is
hugely important. I'm old enough to remember when there was
a Berlin Wall. Many of you remember the Berlin Wall.
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Many of you people remember the Soviet Menace and all
this sort of stuff that existed back in a different time,
in a different place, And I'm old enough to remember that. Well,
we just had to live side by side with evil
and good, us being good, the Kakami's being evil, and
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a very interesting thing happened. Once upon a time in
about nineteen ninety, the wall started to crack. It was
eighty nine into ninety the wall started to crack. People
started to decide, we want to be a part of
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the European experience of the free part of the countryside.
And lo and behold it happened. But remember, if you're
in the same sort of age run that I'm in
that many of you are in, it seemed like it
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would never happen. It seemed like it would never occur,
like we were going to be stuck with this forever.
And I mean, I remember, I remember a Kennedy going
and trying to cut a deal with the Soviets, saying, yeah,
we've got to get rid of Ronald Reagan. You guys
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remember that story. You remember all of that sixty minutes
was going to give all this loving coverage to the
vicious people there in the Soviet Union. I remember that.
You remember that you knew about that. And they decided
that they were going to side with the Soviets and
not side with the American people who had elected Ronald
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Wilson Reagan. And you know, what is so interesting I
told you at the terminus of that last segment, in
that first hour, I told you that that Sherman gave
as a gift to A. Raham Lincoln the city of
Savannah in eighteen sixty four. It also happens that this
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is a historic date, a historic place, a historic issue
that we can look at as well, because it was
about this time, in that time that the walls came down,
and people said it was going to be impossible, and
people said it could never happen. It took one thing, resolve. Resolve.
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It took the notion of not playing games, not appeasing,
not sucking up to any of the Soviet leaders. It
took resolve. It took a pope, it took a president,
and it took a prime minister. And oh, by the way, Lec.
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Willenza was a very instrumental person and who was out
there in the Goadansk shipyards saying, we have got to
fight for our freedom. We have got to fight. This
is the challenge of our time. There's an old commercial
that ran decades ago, and it was about a product
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and they said, all you got to do is set
it and forget it. The problem with freedom, the problem
with achieving important aims is you cannot set it and
forget it. You have got to sit there and you've
got to continuously persuade people, talk to people, engage people.
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Because the other side and you know what the other
side is, and you know what the other side is selling,
and you understand what the other side is trying to do.
They they are going to go to work twenty four
to seven, three sixty five period, full stop. And that
that is something we can do. That is something we
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should not do because because freedom is the goal. And
so when you look at this and you say to yourself, Okay,
how do we do this? What must we do? Well,
I'm going to reach out and take a call right
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out of the box here and I'm going to go
to Tommy in Connecticut. Tommy, welcome to the program.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Oh hi, great, great, great man and tremendous. But we
have to look at a lot of things that are
going on in this country. I'll give you an example.
It's going to be two years in February, we lost
a young lady, a strong young lady by the name
of Lake and Riley.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
She was murdered.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
She wanted to be a nurse, practitioner. Yes, sir, a
Brown University. We lost the beautiful young lady who wanted
to be a surgeon, Ella Wood. So they're now killing
and murdering the best of our young Americans as this
country gets invaded. And I personally really believe that it's
about time with the sixty five Immigration Actors addressed and
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is appealed by the Congress and then just getting rid
of because.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Even with these visas.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I've been out to the airport a few times out
of MOE vacation.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
I see people coming in. There aren't tourist visas. They're
coming in with these giant bags of luggage. Who go's
on vacation with four or five giant bags and luggage.
Those are people coming here who don't want to leave
this country. So listen, if we don't do anything about it,
because in line, Omar is not going to be she's
not going to be deported. She's gonna be in charge
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of the largest atomic arsenal of weapons on the planet
in the United States America.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
When she becomes powerful with well, well.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
No, no, no, no, because she's not but she's not.
She can't, she can't run for president. She wasn't born
in the United States, she's not going to be. But well,
let me just take a take you at at that
at that point right there. Okay, and I do appreciate
the call, Tommy. Look, we have got to understand that
you have to tell people what the plan is going
to be. You have to reflect in that plan, how
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it's going to be delivered, and how it is then
it is being maintained. That's the only three things that
you have to do.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I know you were saying earlier on that you wanted
to get rid of the filibuster. Well, fill that is
certainly a potential thing that you could do. Absolutely, and
we have to be ready though, if you do get
rid of the filibuster, that we go and sit back
and we say, okay, well, then we've gotten rid of
the filibuster. We have to hope that the Democrats are
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not going to take over, because you know full well
they will explode spending, they will explode the size of
the Supreme Court, they will explode, you know, explode everything
of those that you do not necessarily want to have
happened in the United States. And so that's the difficulty.
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It's the same sort of thing that I was just
talking about with Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher and the
Pope and Equalensa taking the reins of power and saying, listen,
we have got to stop the evil that is in
this country, and we are going to get rid of
the evil that is across the way. But it takes work.
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You have to persuade people. Immigration. Let's be honest, Immigration
is being handled very effectively right now by the way
the Trump administration is doing. You've got a bunch of
judges saying you can't, you can't put these people deported.
You can't do those sorts of things. But those are
people that we have to deal with. Then we have
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to figure out, Okay, let's pass legislation, let's do these
sorts of things that have to happen. But by and large,
the border is secure at the Mexican border, and now
you have to go through the process of trying to
figure out who's still in the country and who shouldn't
be in the nation. And unfortunately, in blue cities, blue
you know, blue areas, they're going to continue to push
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for this. Why because when Joe Biden opened the border
back into in twenty twenty one, he decided we were
going to bring more people into this country because we
need a permanent underclass. It's why they all went to
blue cities. It's why they all went to the blue
areas and they said, Okay, we're gonna go over there
and we're gonna backfill for the teachers' unions and all
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of those sorts of things. But when you get down
to brass tax and you look at what Trump's been
able to do in that regard, that's a big win.
It's very much in line with with all the other
things that he's been doing. Now he is beginning in
earnest to try to fix the problems down south of
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the border, further south, much further south in Venezuela. And
now this is where the rubber meets the road. And
that is why, that is why you want to see
an aggressive stance, and you're seeing it with Donald Trump.
What Trump is doing. And I'm not I'm not I'm
not a kiss up to him. I'm just telling you
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about the policies he's doing. Now, we're going to see
that Cuba is going to get starved of oil because
of what's happening with the with the with the different
things that are coming up out of Venezuela number one,
Number two, China is going to be over a barrel literally,
and Iran is going to be starved for oil for
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the money that is coming into the coffers. This is
systemically important because that is how you get to breaking
the grip of the communist menace in Venezuela and beyond.
Remember when Hugo Chavez took over in Venezuela, he voided
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all of our rights to explore for oil that we
paid for. Now Donald Trump is trying to get it
put back on the good foot so that we can
see a freer place there and not a place that's
sending us poison to murder our children. You mentioned Lake
and Riley. God bless her and God bless her family,
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and we should not ever see another person like that
have to lose their lives again. My name is Brett Witterble.
I'm in for Clay and Buck. It's a pleasure to
be here. Eight hundred and two A two to eight
A two back after.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
This news and politics, but also a little comic relief.
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the vree
iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
And I have Brett Winable. It's a pleasure to be
with you in for Clay and Buck. Eight hundred two
eight two two eight a two is the number for
you to opine, to give us your thoughts, your takes,
all these sorts of things. We will be going back
to the phone and in just a moment, but in
the in the meantime, I want to I want to
let you hear some of the great stuff that's been
happening in the last couple of days.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
One of the things that I thought was particularly good
in this is cut number five, Cut number five. D
n I Tolsi gabbered at TPUSA talking about the threats
we face.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Go there's a threat to our freedom that is not
often talked about enough, and it is the greatest near
and long term threat to both our freedom and our security,
and that is the threat of Islamist ideology. It is
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propagated by people who not only do not believe in freedom,
they're fundamental ideology is antithetical to the foundation that we
find in our Constitution and Bill of Rights, which is
that our Creator endowed upon us in alienable rights, the
right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. So
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Charlie focused on this quite a bit. He talked about
it in ways that very few others did because he
understood this direct threat to freedom.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
So let me give you just a glimpse, just a
glimpse of something that is downright remarkable. And this is
not this is not fake, This is not you know, nonsense,
this is real. What if I told you this is
going to be Cut seven? Mic Syrian Christians went out
(13:56):
and protested in Syria yesterday. Now remember this is a
place where by and large Islam rules the roost. They
got so ready to do this they were playing church
bells in Syria. Now you know, and I know if
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you're familiar with Islam, they do not want bells rung.
They don't want any of that to be respected. That
there is a very different sort of an ideology here.
But listen to this. This is cut seven. Obviously, these
are people who are chanting and carrying crosses and doing
all the things you would expect in a religious procession
in Syria.
Speaker 8 (14:42):
Cut seven.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That reminds me of what we saw when the wall
came down against the Communists. These are people who took
their lives in their hands and understood very clearly that
they have a right written on their heart to defend
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the faith, the faith that was there before Syria was
an Islamic country. That is something that is incredible. See,
it's easy to be demoralized. It's easy to say we
can't do it, it's impossible, we can't get it done.
Ladies and gentlemen, we can. We can. All it takes.
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All it takes is for us to recognize that we
are in charge of our own destinies. And it's not easy,
and it's not free, and it's not any of that.
What it is in front of us right now is vision.
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It's vision, it's belief, and it's understanding that what's right
is right and wrong is wrong. We've got plenty more
straight ahead. It's a pleasure to be with you. I'm
Brett Witterbule. You're in. I'm in for Clay and Buck
eight hundred two A two two eight eight two back
after this and I'm Brett Witterable. It's great to be
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in for our Clay and Buck today. Eight hundred two
eight two to eight eight two. Taking your phone calls,
your takes, your thoughts. What are you guys thinking about
with this jackpot? This big jackpot. Is it going to grow?
Is it going to go? I mean, who knows? This
is going to be a very interesting time. And boy,
I really hope that's not somebody in a blue state
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with a big, ugly title there that they got to
go for. Let's go out and talk to David and Arizona. David,
welcome to the show on Clay and Buck show.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
How you doing.
Speaker 9 (17:26):
Thanks for taking a call, but you're doing a great
job covering for claim Buck.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
By the way, thank you so much.
Speaker 9 (17:31):
This is just this is a particular random mind, but
this is to every single politician out there who may
or may not be listening. Whether you're a local, county,
state or federal, you folks need to remember one thing.
You don't work for the Republican Party. You don't work
for the Democrat Party. You work for us, your constituents,
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and it's time you start remembering that if the party
tells you to do something, you better listen to your
constituents because we're awake now. Because you're an incumbentant doesn't
necessarily mean you're going to have this job for life.
Because we're getting sick of it. We are. It's time
to remember that one it's America first. We're the ones
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paying the bills, right, you're the ones wasting the money.
It's time for you to remember who you work for.
That's temple.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Let me ask you. I want to ask you a question.
What is your outside of what you just said here?
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
What what was your biggest disappointment in terms of politics?
And what was what's been the biggest good thing that
you've seen.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
In the world of politics?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Can you give me an answer on each of those.
Speaker 9 (18:44):
My biggest disappointment is the amount of money we're wasting
in foreign aid. I mean, seeing some of these things
that those came up with. Why the hell are we
spending money to develop a sesame street thing in Farzi?
Speaker 10 (18:56):
Right?
Speaker 11 (18:56):
Why are we sending money to the Irish people to
have some gay production done? And I'm not gay bashing,
and I don't you know, I don't have a problem
with Islamism, So why is our money going to everybody
on the damn planet?
Speaker 9 (19:09):
It needs to be here. We got problems here we
need to take care of first. It's like you don't
borrow money from you know, big money from Peter to
pay Paul. That's what's happening. It's time to spend it here.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yep, what's your what's your biggest good thing that you
can think about in this in this term.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
The borders closed.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
M hmmm, that's isn't it incredible? When it's like something
that exactly hits in the right way, you go this boom,
I know immediately and and look, you're right, the doche thing,
all of that stuff that went out that was unbelievable,
And unfortunately I wished I wished that they would have
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put that thing in book form so that everybody could
read it like like any other kind of a scandal thing,
because that was a scandal. That money that was scandalous
in the extreme, and unfortunately nobody, you know, you got
to go and hunt and peck and try to find it.
And that's that's a real problem. So here's what I
would say.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
To you, though.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
At the same time, do you do you are you
engaged in politics? Do you do things like this? Do
you go out there? Have you thought about running for office?
Speaker 9 (20:20):
My wife's trying to talk me out of it.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
But yes, good, okay, No, we need citizen legislators and
people who have spine in their in their in their
you know, a strong spine because otherwise it's going to
be the same old Nancy Pelosi swallwell, YadA, YadA YadA.
It's the same old, same old people. And that's that's
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that's not how it should be. Great stuff. I appreciate
you calling into the program. Okay, let's go to Mike
in North Carolina. Mike, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 11 (20:54):
Hey, bred Hey, great job for playing Buck. Awesome program.
Longtime listener, first caller've been trying to follow things in.
I got kind of a perspective. I know it may
have been talked about it, maybe not. My biggest concern
right now is we've got so many politicians that have
went into Congress and they've all become wealthy. I'm a
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common tax payer, worked my whole life, never been to jail,
never got in any trouble, always did things the right way.
Believe me the irs. If I don't pay them twelve
dollars and eighty three cent, I get a letter. So
accountability to me seems to be the biggest problem that
we have in our society right now, because we don't
as citizens. I don't think people know who to believe
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and not believe. I know that our framers that developed
the Constitution.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
They were all.
Speaker 11 (21:43):
Business owners, engineers, people that had already made wealth, and
all they wanted to do was create a society that
was a better mean for our society. But somewhere in
the translation between getting to Congress and being representatives went
away from trying to help people as opposed to them
lining their own pockets. Now I'm not saying it's one
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side to the other, but sure if they can audit
me for twelve dollars and eighty three cent, goodness, they
can audit somebody who has now amassed a thirty million
dollar bank account for being a representative in Minnesota. And
that's that's my question. But again, those things, you know,
just kind of spike me, that's all.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You're exactly No, no, everything you just said I co signed absolutely,
because here's the problem. Once upon a time, and thank
you for the call, Mike at North Carolina. Once upon
a time, and it wasn't really that far long ago.
The vision for being a citizen in Congress person or
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a senator. But obviously, remember the senators used to be
picked by their governments to send them to Washington, d C.
Now we get direct election, and I think that's a
huge part of the problem that exists. Once upon a
time it was this eight legislators who would say, Hey Joe,
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you're gonna go and represent us in Washington. Hey Steve,
you're gonna go and register, you know, be the guy
in Washington, uh for for our for our state, and
you're gonna represent our state. You're not going to represent
Republicans Democrats. But when you look at the House, the
House famously was an and a machine that worked as
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almost like basically a part time legislature. It was one
of these things where it was like going on jury duty.
You were gonna have to go down to Washington, d C.
You're gonna have to serve for like two years, and
then you would go back home to your to your business,
to your plantation, to your whatever. It was gonna be right.
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And so unfortunately, as as Franklin Delano Roosevelt complained about,
he said, the worst thing that you could have possibly
done in Washington d C. Was introduced air conditioning. Because
once you introduced air conditioning in Washington, DC, as anybody
who goes to Washington DC and the summer knows, you
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have a twenty four seven three sixty five government that
is now in effect at all times. And so now
you've got lobbyists, now you've got people coming in trying
to give you money, all this sort of stuff, and
you end up with not being less free, but being
almost entirely less free.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
This is the.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Challenge that we have to kind of overcome. And so
I would love to go back to senators are picking,
are being picked by the legislature, and I would love
to see term limits on these folks, right, one, two,
whatever it's going to be. But because what that does
is it brings in new blood constantly. And you don't
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have Nancy Pelosi's and you don't have swall Wells, and
you don't have Schumer, and you don't have you know,
you know, Tom Tillis and those folks. And I'm not
trying to pick on people, but you get what I'm saying.
You go in nobody, nobody, nobody has to stay there forever.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
They like it.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Power, power is sexy, right, that's what they want. Let's
go to Mike online. One. Mike, welcome to the program
out of Ohio.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Hey, thanks Brent, appreciate.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
You having me on and good job, thank you, sir.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Yeah, I thought I would chip in my thoughts about
the the most positive events of the last year, and
this term that being the I echo that of the
border situation and kind of proof positive that all we
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needed was a new president.
Speaker 10 (25:55):
To echo Trump's comment, it is.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Stated as the Indian speech, Yes, sir.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
And then my most disappointing.
Speaker 10 (26:05):
Observation for this current term is the absence of any consequences.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
Ah.
Speaker 10 (26:13):
I do think we've had enough time that's.
Speaker 12 (26:16):
Transpired and Sea was inaugurated, and as well as the
the settling in of the Congress and the Senate, that
we should have seen some evidence of consequences for people
that have done what they've done in this country in
the prior administration. Nobody's gone to jail, and it's very disappointing.
Speaker 10 (26:40):
I'm a grandfather. I have recently retired, and uh, you know,
I'd like to think that, uh you know, there's some
example of accountability and all of that that you know
my kids and my grandkids, and I haven't seen it.
And candidate has tightened up my wallet in terms of
(27:03):
contribution to any political party or candidate here. I vote
with every election, I participate in the process. I have
family that is involved in serving in public office, and.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
That's just my kids.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Okay, well, listen, I'm gonna give I'm going to give
you the same prescription that I've given to some other people.
You should get involved. You should get And I'm not
being a wise guy. I think we need more citizens
being being involved in this sort of stuff because those
are the people who are going to be able to
figure out, Okay, where does this corruption go?
Speaker 10 (27:37):
Now?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
One of the things that I think we're going to
see once once we get to the place where this
war in Ukraine ends, I think there's a lot of
come up and that's got to come out of that
as well. But also at the same time here in
the United States, like on Tara Firma in the United States,
thank you for the call. What we have to do
(28:01):
is we have to go about and see what's happening
in terms of the stuff that was done so wrongly,
throwing the military out, and obviously Trump has done stuff
about that, forcing people to get the shots, all that
sort of stuff. They have cleaned up a lot of that,
but it's not to people's satisfaction necessarily. Now, let me
(28:23):
make one last observation very quickly, because I'm due for
a break here in just a minute, and it's this.
I don't see anybody on the board, and we're now
an hour and forty six minutes into the program. I
don't need people saying much about the Epstein files. And
(28:44):
I'm starting to think that maybe it's because of what
I heard earlier today from a number of people that well, yeah,
because it's a Bill Clinton scandal. It's that sort of
stuff that they've tried to attach to Trump and it
hasn't been the thing that they thought it would be. Again,
(29:05):
they don't even want to impeach him anymore. What's going on.
I'm Brett witterbal In for Clay and Buck eight hundred
and two two eight eight to two, stick around more after.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
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wish you and your family a warm Christmas season and
a joyful new year. And I'm Brett winterble In for
Clay and Buck. Great to be with you. I'm always
happy to talk to this very very smart audience, got
great people out here. Let's let's take a let's take
a walk on the wild side.
Speaker 10 (29:53):
Shall we.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Let's go to Dimitri from Texas. Welcome to the program,
to meet free line for.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Thank you for taking my phone culture.
Speaker 13 (30:03):
Yes, I came to the United States exactly year after
the Berlin Wall kind of fell apart, and lived here
thirty five years now, and it's like me going back the.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Going back in time on that dround hawk day.
Speaker 13 (30:21):
I wake up thirty five years later in the same
bed and the quap clicks in the morning. I hear
aoc screaming throughout her law socialism, redistribution of wealth is good,
mom Donnie saying we're gonna take from the rich give
to the poor. Private ownership is bad, private ownership is good.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
So my point is.
Speaker 13 (30:46):
People came here thirty years ago looking for freedom, economic freedom,
freedom for religion.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
And two hundred and fifty years after America's two.
Speaker 13 (30:56):
Hundred and fifty anniversary, we're going to celebrate a year
from now in July. We are going back into the
same position that we started running away from the king,
running away from the church, running away from prosecution of
religion and freedom.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
And imagine, imagine what.
Speaker 13 (31:13):
That will reflect to that new generation that is taking
all her note their notes from the and from the facebooks.
The same thing with Lenin and Stalin. They brainwashed the
new generation and injecting their brains with all those ideas
which not necessarily work in real life.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Okay, so let's let me ask you a question. Do
you see the university system in the Americans, in the
in America as as the same sort of thing as
you would see? Okay, I agree with you, exactly. I agree.
I mean that's that's and and and not only that
they pay for the privilege of getting indoctrinated, which is bizarre.
Speaker 11 (31:53):
It's nuts.
Speaker 13 (31:54):
Imagine Yeah, at one point, the last point, imagine if
someone like me gets elected into office.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yes, every time Democrats propose a law or idea, I
will go.
Speaker 13 (32:06):
I did paper on this in nineteen seventy five under
the Commons regime.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
I I gotta see on it. It's not gonna work.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Wow. Okay, now you're the kind of guy that's gotta
go get involved now because you you actually you touched
the hot stove and realized I'm never touching that thing again.
And that's the See, these are the people like you,
Dimitri and other people who have experienced things like this,
who are the greatest champions for freedom and liberty, because otherwise, uh,
(32:38):
you know, these people are gonna get they're gonna get burnt,
they're gonna they're gonna find out what's going on here,
and unfortunately it's a it's a huge problem. I'm so
glad you're in our country, and I'm so glad you
settled here, and I'm so glad that you're you're not
back in the bad old days because you are somebody
who can inform a lot of people. Thanks so much, Dmitri.
What a what a great eight lesson. They're all around us, folks,
(33:05):
they are all around us. We've got the good, we
got the bad, we got the ugly. But the reality
is we can chart our own course. We have the
ability to tell folks, to teach folks, to show folks
the people, because this is not theoretical. This is the
(33:29):
loss of your nation if we do not walk carefully, period,
full stop. Coming up next a whole bunch of great stuff.
We're gonna make you laugh, We're gonna make you think,
and most of all, gonna talk a little bit about
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