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December 22, 2025 27 mins

Hour 3 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show, guest-hosted by Brett Winterble from News Talk 1110 & 99.3 WBT in Charlotte, delivers a compelling mix of global news analysis, economic insight, and listener engagement as the holiday season approaches. Brett opens the hour by posing a relatable question to the audience: Are you spending more or less this Christmas? This sparks a series of calls highlighting optimism about the economy under President Trump, with listeners citing lower gas prices, easing interest rates, and improved household finances as signs of renewed confidence.

The hour then pivots to international headlines, focusing on the Bondi Beach massacre in Australia and controversial remarks by New South Wales Premier Chris Minns. Brett sharply criticizes Minns for attacking American free speech and gun rights while touting restrictive policies in the name of multiculturalism. He argues that such rhetoric underscores the stark contrast between U.S. constitutional freedoms and the creeping authoritarianism embraced by global elites. Brett warns that moral clarity and constitutional principles—especially the right to worship and speak freely—are essential to preserving liberty at home and abroad.

Listener calls add depth to the discussion, with one caller emphasizing how unchecked immigration reshapes congressional districts and electoral votes, fueling a permanent left-wing power base. Brett agrees, framing immigration as both a cultural and political battleground that demands decisive action. Another caller highlights America’s tradition of generosity, urging struggling families and veterans to embrace community support during the holidays—a sentiment echoed by others celebrating charitable giving and economic gains.

Midway through the hour, Brett introduces a critical economic conversation featuring Kevin Hassett, former White House economic adviser and a potential candidate for Federal Reserve Chair. Hassett dismantles media narratives about labor shortages, explaining that Trump’s immigration reforms—halting diversity visas, tightening asylum rules, and prioritizing legal workers—have boosted wages for native-born Americans, particularly in construction, where salaries have risen by $3,300 on average. Brett underscores Hassett’s pragmatic approach to monetary policy, contrasting it with Jerome Powell’s incrementalism and warning that Democrats, if given control of Congress, would revert to reckless spending and elitist priorities. He praises Hassett’s focus on middle-class needs, credit access, and economic stability as a blueprint for sustaining growth.

Hour 3 closes with a powerful reminder that freedom and prosperity require vigilance, moral courage, and constitutional fidelity. Brett calls on listeners to stay engaged, reject socialist indoctrination, and support leaders committed to faith, family, and economic opportunity. This final hour blends global perspective, grassroots voices, and forward-looking policy analysis, making it a must-listen for conservatives determined to defend American values.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And welcome back.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm Brett wierble In for Clay and Buck Hour number
three underway eight hundred two eight two two eight A two.
It is so great to be spending the time this
afternoon with each and.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Every one of you. It's a real pleasure. And uh,
what do you say we get going?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
We're going to break down a whole bunch of big
stories that are happening.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
And I have a question for you this hour. And
the question that I have for you is.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Are you spending more on Christmas or less on Christmas?
I don't mean that to mean I can't afford this stuff.
I mean are you feeling like you're more in the
spirit of the season than maybe you were in the
last couple of years. So certainly you can take it

(00:48):
in any direction you want, and that's certainly something that
is that is hugely important. So yeah, that's that's the
question that I've got for you. Are you spend a
little bit more you spend less?

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Just about this? You can take it any place you
want to go. I want to.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Give you a perfect example for why we should every
day when we wake up, put our knees on the
floor and kiss, kiss, kiss the floor that you're doing
that because we are so lucky to be Americans. We

(01:24):
are so blessed to be Americans. Imagine all the times
that you could have possibly been alive, and you're alive now.
I'm telling you, right now, folks, I would not want
to be in any other place with any other group
of people than right here in the good old US
of A. And so let me go to cut number two.

(01:47):
This is a guy named Chris Mins. He was talking
about the massacre yesterday that took place during the tack
on the Bondai Beach, and he is I just want
to warn you because your blood pressure may go up

(02:08):
a little bit. He doesn't want to be like the
United States of America. He says that this is the
wrong kind of approach that we're dealing with when it
comes to the Bondai Beach massacre, and that we have
really no standing to tell them what's up over there
in New South Wales.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
So I'm gonna let you hear this.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
But man, this is a guy who just cannot resist
the temptation to throw sand in our faces.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Cut number two, let a rip.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
What do they want people to have the right to say?
What kind of ricist abuse do they want to see
or be able to luefully say on the straits of Cdney.
I recognize, and I'm fully said from the beginning that
we don't have to sign freedom of spitch lows to
have in the United States, and the reason for that
is that we want to hold to get up a
multicultural community and have people leave in pace free from

(03:08):
the kind of vilification and hatred that we do see
around the world.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Is he kidding? Is he hold on a minute, multiculturalism
and all this sort of stuff. Well, then explain to
me how Chris Min's from Australia is sitting back here
and saying something.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Like, well, we want we don't want.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
People to have the right to say what they want,
and we're going to take away their guns for good
measure and all of that sort of stuff.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
No, no, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
This guy is not ready for prime time. This guy
went out of his way to insult the American people.
I thought we were great allies of Australia. I thought
the auks A deal was coming to go, it was
going to be perfect, it was going to be wonderful.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
But why is.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
It that they have to always look to the United States,
which had nothing to do with the massacre at Bondi Beach.
Why do they look to the United States and say
terrible things about the United States of America?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Why is that? Why anybody? Can you explain that to me?

Speaker 2 (04:19):
We're allegedly air quotes allies. But this guy, this guy
has to come over here and say or he has
to say about us. We can't have that kind of language.
We can't have you people saying these things with this
thing that they calls free speech. These folks are the people,

(04:41):
if you remember, just sendo Ardurn and the other folks
who were during a number of things, including COVID and
then beyond COVID. These folks, their default position is always, always, always,
more t tranny, more multiculturalism.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
More.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Look, if you come to the United States, you see
a lot of people who live in this country who
are multicultural.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
I don't want to judge people by the color of
their skin.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
I don't want to judge people by the economics that
they go by or things like that. I believe everybody
should have a chance to be the person that they
should be. But it cannot be a command and control
sort of a deal here. That is just poppy cock.

(05:41):
It is nuts. Oh oh, look at how great we are. Well,
what I saw at Bondi Beach was hundreds of people
terrorized by two people holding them hostage, being shooters.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
This is disgraceful. This is awful. And you want to
know what.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Their dividing line is.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Wait till you hear this.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Their dividing line, the thing that we must not ever do.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I hope you're sitting down when I tell you this.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
They've decided that you're not allowed to have an ISIS
flag anymore anymore. Were you guys okay with ISIS flags
once upon a time.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
This is lunacy. This is bending over backwards so far
that you fall down the steps. You have to understand.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
There are people in this country, and there are people
in Australia, and there are people in Europe, there are
people in South America. There are people in a lot
of different places who do not respect the right to life,
who do not respect the right to life and right
to religion. The United States of America, the terrible place

(07:10):
that this guy's talking about.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Our number one our number one right is.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
To worship, to pray, to choose our faith, all of that,
and it is guaranteed in the Declaration of Independence and
in the amendments of the Constitution. These are all of
the things that are stitched together. But it is only

(07:44):
effective if you are a moral people, if you are
somebody who is moral, if you are somebody who can
abide by morality. And I'm not saying you impose morality
on individuals. They have a choice, they get to do
what they want.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I want to do.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
But then this guy comes in and starts swinging and
winging at the United States of him.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
It's absolutely unbelievable. I just I was just.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
So offended by what he had to say about the
United States of America. We have nothing to do with
their problems there. And by the way, we have problems
as well. Nobody's sitting here in the United States after
something bad happens saying it's Australia's fault.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
We don't want to be like Australia.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Weird, really really weird, and and a terrible sort of take.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
It is it is. It is more than annoying, all right.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
So I asked a couple of moments ago, are you
spending more money? Are you spending more for Christmas? Are
you are you feeling festive in the spirit and all
of that sort of stuff. So let me reach out
to Luke in Ohio. I want to get his thoughts
on this. What are your thoughts on the holidays?

Speaker 4 (09:07):
My friend?

Speaker 5 (09:09):
All right, Free Boys, nineteen twelve three. We're in the
Christmas spirit. Me and my wife will make around one
to fifteen this year. We live between sint Night and Columbus.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
We're doing well.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
We have a mortgage, but our vehicles are paid for.
We're thankful. We're gonna have a very good Christmas season.
I don't know a ton about the economy, but we
do okay. And I think at the Trump gases about
two point thirty where I'm at, which is great. That's great.
Interest rates are coming down. I don't know about foreign policy,
but what he does is helping my bottom line every month,

(09:42):
and I hope he continues in that direction.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
That's a great call, Luke. Thank you so much for calling,
and bless you and your family. Man, Thanks so much,
and enjoy I'll enjoy Christmas. Yeah, absolutely, I mean that's
a that's.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
A great thing. All right.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Let me take Kenny in Boston real quick. Kenny, welcome
to the show Man.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Your show is awesome. I love your rapport with the
callers mess you. First of all, I just want to
say something. The other gentleman's having a good year. I'm
glad to him. But there's a lot of people out
down on their luck. And don't be embarrassed. There's plenty
of places that have Christmas dinner, and you can go
there and set up and don't be embarrassed, and don't
let me find out you're a combat veteran. You're afraid

(10:22):
to have that free dinner. You walk in there first
with your chest out, my man, and just enjoyed. But
the thing is, I just like to say, this country
is being totally invaded by the whole world is coming here.
It's like a big piece of rock candy. All different
types of scams are being run. You have to realize
when more people come in the country, these congressional districts

(10:45):
get bigger and bigger, or they just create new congressional
districts and they create electoral votes for the left wing
candidates through immigration, legal and illegal. The Democratic Party has
been rebuilt into a total wing party. I don't see
any hope for that party anymore because.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
They basically represent communists, social quo, anti Americanism, and I
really personally believe that a lot of things have to
be done.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
And I just want to let you know that there
are some people pushing for PAPYU Caanan to get the
presidential meet the Medal of Freedom, but Pat already wanted
a what it's called. He was right on everything. Merry
Christmas and everybody have a Charlie Brown Christmas.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
All right, all right, thank you for your opining in
that regard. We're going to get a break. I've got
plenty more people who want to opine on these sorts
of things, and I think it's a hugely important thing
for us to remember that the reason why we have
this ability to worship, that we have the ability to
be the nation that we want to be, is because

(11:51):
of the sacrifices that have been made, especially by the
folks in the military.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I'm Brett Wittable. It's a pleasure to be with you.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
I'm in for Clay and Buck eight hundred and two
way two too back after.

Speaker 7 (12:01):
This Patriots Radio hosts a couple of regular guys, Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio
app or wherever you get your podcasts. Play Travis with
the Clay and Buck Show, wishing you and your family
a very merry Christmas and a happy New Year.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Buck Sexton, here, the entire Clay and Buck Show wish
you and your family a warm Christmas season and a
joyful new Year. And welcome back on Brent Winterble. Great
to be with you and for Clay and Buck. Eight
hundred two two two eight a two, taking your phone calls,
your thoughts, all of the stuff that's out there. And
as we go through the into the next segment, I

(12:43):
want you guys to hear something that I thought was
really good by Kevin Hassett. Sometimes people will say, how
come you don't fight back.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
With these different reporters and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well he did a master job in this regard and
I want to save that for the next coming segment.
But let me go out and talk to Linda in Alabama. Linda,
welcome to the program. What's on your mind today?

Speaker 8 (13:09):
Well, first I wanted to say Merry Christmas, Mary Chris.
I wanted to say that thanks to our president and
the stock market this year, my husband and I have
had a very good year and as a result, we
have given more to charities and our children will be
having a better Christmas and we're very optimistic for the future.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
That is great. That is great, That is phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, well, well listen, you also decided you were going
to tie and help people out and stuff. Look, that
is that's what we need to really put first and
foremost in our mind. How can we do the best
possible good that we can do. And I'm so happy
for your success and your ability to kind of pay
it forward and help other people. And it's a really

(13:55):
important thing to do. And I really appreciate you calling
this show today.

Speaker 8 (14:01):
Well, thank you, And I just wanted to say many
people might not know that Birmingham, Alabama is one of
the most giving cities in the country, and I'm very
proud to live here and proud of that. So thank
you for taking my call.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Oh it's my pleasure. Absolutely. That was fantastic because when
you kind of pay stuff forward to do things like that,
it's a very important thing, a very very important thing.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Can I talk to Father Michael from Ohio. Welcome to
the show, sir, Hello.

Speaker 9 (14:35):
Sir, Yes, hello, Brent, how are you today?

Speaker 1 (14:37):
I'm well, thanks for checking in.

Speaker 9 (14:39):
I have tried to shout from the rooftops from twenty
fifteen about President Trump because a lot of good things
he does just is not reported. I have the blessing
to give the invocation at his rally, the first Ohio
rally back in twenty fifteen here in Columbus. A great
man to meet. And he told me right to my face,

(15:00):
said Father Michael, I will get prayer back in school.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Now.

Speaker 9 (15:04):
Up until that time, almost everyone had a write in
public school to take a time of silence or to pray.
But it had gotten down to where just the Muslims
were allowed. And you know, within three months of him
being president that very first term, that federal law was changed.
I never heard a thing about it, but it was changed.
I got it from my kids who went to public school.

(15:26):
And I think it was great that the president from
the very beginning of his first term prayer and God
has been number one with him, regardless of what anyone
tries to misinterpret for our president. And that's the best
I can say. Have a merry Christmas. Okay, God bless
you and all the listeners.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
And you as well. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
I really appreciate that Father Michael checking in with us.
The thing is, we are able to do so many
great things if we just put the nose to the
grindstone and if we get together we say, listen, we
want to change this, and we want it to be
done in an appropriate way, in a proper way.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
But it has to also be most.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Importantly, a constitutional way, and the Constitution enshrines for us
these rights and liberties. We don't have to ask permission
to pray. We just have to do what we want
to do. Another great segment coming up straight ahead. Don't

(16:34):
go anywhere. I'm Brettwinnable in for Clay and Buck. Very
happy to be with each and every one of you,
and I'm telling you this is going to be a
wonderful Christmas. We all know what we've seen, but we
also know what we're gonna see in the next number
of weeks. Watch and learn on Brettwitter.

Speaker 10 (17:05):
President announced further changes to immigration policy. He halted diversity visas.
There are now thirty nine countries on this travel banner
restricted list. This is in addition to all the deportations
and replications of asylum. The business community has made clear
that the constant changes make it hard for them to plan,

(17:26):
particularly in the small business category. They're concerned about a
labor shortage, and we've seen the US workforce lose more
than a one million foreign born workers in the past year.
Are you hearing those concerns from the business community.

Speaker 11 (17:40):
Actually, it's the opposite, so in the sense that native
born workers are up more than two million. And so
what we've seen is that as foreign born workers and
a lot of them don't forget, we're illegal immigrants that
have been deported, that when foreign born workers depart, then
it creates jobs for people who are native born. The

(18:01):
interesting thing, too, which I'd like to remind everybody, is
that native born Americans aren't necessarily racially distinct at all,
and so the majority of the native born jobs that
have been created over the last year are Hispanic Americans.
It's just basically taking folks that are legally in the
country and getting the jobs to them, is what we
see in the data.

Speaker 10 (18:21):
Well, the Associated General Contractors of America didn't say they're
replacing those workers easily. They're saying they're having a hard
time doing that and issued a statement saying it's a
significant challenge, urging the administration to look at ways to
expand the construction workforce and allow more people to lawfully
enter the country.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Right.

Speaker 11 (18:42):
Well, one of the things we're saying this is exactly
how markets work.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Right.

Speaker 11 (18:45):
So construction workers their salaries this year have gone up
by three three hundred dollars on average according to the
latest report, because scarcely well. But when the price goes up,
then people say, oh, should I should go? And I
used to be a constructive worker, there was something else.
I actually go back to construction work because the salaries
are so high, and so we're seeing a lot of
that go on. And so we're very bullish on construction

(19:07):
and really happy to see that wages are going way
back up. And so instead of having you know, basically
illegal people come in and take jobs away from native
born Americans at low wages, we're seeing people redo the
labor force at high wages.

Speaker 10 (19:21):
But to be clear, from the business community, part of
the question is what is legal because you're changing the
definition and pulling back asylum from some groups. So there's
confusion at the constant change in policy where they'll be
clarity in the new year.

Speaker 11 (19:38):
Oh, there will definitely be clarity the new year. And
I think there's clarity now that what we've done is
that we've made it so that people are legally residents
of the country and legally allowed to work that they're
you know, basically top of the list when you're looking
for somebody to hire.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Okay, I'm back here connected, then, thank you very much.
I'm I had a catastrophic failure here for a moment.
So Kevin Hassett talking into this conversation, having this conversation,
doing the sort of thing that is that he's doing

(20:17):
is important because what's happening with Kevin Hassett in this
regard is the.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
It's the trap that always happens.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
It's the trap that always occurs when you go in
and you go try to do the things that you
need to do to make the case for stronger economies. Now,
if you go back to the Biden administration, the biggest
problem that they had with that administration was the fact
that they spent seven trillion dollars for nothing and we

(20:51):
got nothing for that. That's like injecting more and more
heroin over the course of time. Then it should if
you if you decide you're going to put poison into
the system, you're going to get a poisonous response.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
And so when that happens, this is where.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
People like Margaret Brennan and all these other sort of
folks are out there and they're sitting back and they're saying, Okay,
we're going to try to do a trap.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Now.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Kevin Hassett is an important person.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
He is potentially going to be maybe unless it's mister
Warsh or it's going to be somebody else who's going
to come in and be the next fed chair. What
I like about Kevin Hassett is the fact that we
have a person who might be able to advocate, not

(21:42):
just as one of these elites who are on the
you know, who are on the spectrum and all this
sort of stuff. What we have is somebody who understands
what people care about, how the economy is supposed to work,
how the economy is supposed to function, effects not just

(22:03):
hedge funders, not just the people that are out there
doing the things that they're doing. What we have in
place in this moment is something that is unbelievable. It
is a potential for a guy who's going to come
in and advocate for what an economy should look like,

(22:25):
for economy should function, and in that part of the
entire part that's massive. When is the last time you
saw a federal Reserve person, potentially if he gets appointed
to that position after j. Powell goes, when's the last

(22:47):
time you saw somebody come in and say, let me
talk about the people who are suffering, let me talk
about the people who have small businesses and all those
sorts of things. This is unprecedent, did It's it's more
than what economics should look like. It's about the notion

(23:07):
of people's economics themselves. And so when people are are
out there and they're suffering, and when you see that
they need this or that thing to happen, availability for credit,
all of that sort of stuff.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
What did you see from.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Jerome Palell Jerome pal consistently it was playing games with Okay,
we'll just go for a quarter point or this or that.
It was somebody who was too afraid to make the
big decisions. Donald Trump is not going to blow somebody
out of the position because they are in a place where, okay,

(23:49):
we have to get more money into this part of
the sector. What do you see as far as the
eye can see, what you see is rents are going
way up. Other sort of things like that are are
becoming more expensive. And that can also be handled by
by the FED. So when you look at Hassett and

(24:15):
when you look at him going around talking to people
in a calm way, not in any kind of a
panicked way, but in a calm way where he's talking
to America.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
He's not talking.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Necessarily to Wall Street, though he does do a really
good job when he goes on the c NBCs and
those sorts of things like that. But when you look
at and you see his decisions that he's making to
try to sell, not to sell in a negative way,

(24:54):
in a crooked way, in any of that sort of stuff,
what you've got from him is somebody who's able to
look at it through the eyes of not just the consumer,
but the heartland. It's interesting to me to see the
people who want to run for office on the Democratic

(25:15):
side of the isle. And you've got you've got a
very successful governor in Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro, You've got Gavin Newsom,
and then of course who else have you got. You've
got a couple of people that are that are running
around AOC maybe wants to run whatever that is. But
you also have a billionaire in uh in Illinois. But

(25:39):
he is not a person who's advocating for the common man,
for the small guy, for those people he is. He
is not advocating for the elites has it's not doing that.
He's doing it for the people that feel at the most,

(26:00):
the people who need to take out alone, the people
who need to take out alone, for their college kids,
for a housing remodel, for all.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Of that sort of stuff.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
That's what we've what we've got this thing uh set
up as now. Unfortunately, unfortunately, you know, at the beginning
of of of time, you had this notion that whatever
we try to force down on people, they'll just have

(26:32):
to live with it. That's no longer the case because
you have in President Trump and you have in jd.
Vance the Vice president, you have people who are actively
educating and working for the middle class. It's why you
did everything you did with the border, It's why you

(26:54):
did everything that could have come that way. And unfortunately,
or maybe fortunately, maybe fortunately, we're going to see a
completely different picture if you end up with a Democrat
House and Senate, because they're gonna block and they're gonna
do what needs to be done for the elites and

(27:17):
leave the rest far behind. Umbrett Winnable in for Clay
and Buck eight hundred two eight two two eight eight
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Speaker 9 (27:32):
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Speaker 4 (27:33):
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Speaker 1 (27:35):
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