December 25, 2025 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck Show, wishing you
and your family of very mary Christmas and a happy
New Year.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Buck Sexton here the entire Clay and Bucks Show wish
you and your family a warm Christmas season and a
joyful New Year.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Thank you for listening. This is the best of with
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Welcome back in Clay Travis
Buck Sexton Show. Okay, we just had the call Christy.
Was it Christy who called in from Utah? She was
talking about the job market she works in HR and
the challenges that she is seeing. I'm sure that many
(00:35):
of you who are looking for jobs have seen the
same thing. Here's what I think is going on, Buck,
and you can sign on or not sign on to this.
I think that AI.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Is going to be incredibly transformative for many different companies
out there. And I actually think that some of the
jobs that are being pushed aside right now are actually
more white collar than blue collar in nature. And so
(01:07):
there are certain jobs. Let's say you're a plumber right now,
I don't think there's AI plumbing that is taking away
your job. I don't think that if you're a roofer
there's AI roofing that is changing what you're doing, truck driving,
so far, all those things quote unquote blue collar jobs,
working with your hands in some sort of factory. I
think there are a lot of thought related so called
(01:28):
white collar jobs. Then a lot of companies are just
not filling right now because they don't know necessarily how
quickly AI is going to advance and eliminate a lot
of these jobs. And so I think there's a bit
of an inversion in the job market where there are
a lot of people who felt very confident, Hey, I'm
always going to have a job, and I talk about
(01:50):
this with my boys even now.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I think a lot of lawyers are going to be
losing their jobs in the years ahead, because when I
graduated law school, you had twenty five year old lawyers
who would sit in front of a computer screen and
would be looking through documents and flagging the relevant documents
and all these things, billing hundreds of dollars. That's going
to become automated. I think a lot of these consulting
jobs that people got, a lot of these investment banking jobs.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
They if you remember the super.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Skilled, if you remember share in the timeless classic clueless
gets into trouble with the mean associate lawyer because she
highlights the June ninth calls or whatever, and she's supposed
to highlight the June fifth calls. But in the nineties
you had lawyers who were making hundreds and hundreds of
(02:37):
dollars an hour doing stuff like that, going through phone records.
Not even just the nineties, I mean until recently. The
once you start to use AI as a tool, and
I would recommend that all of you do so for
your own lives.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
As a tool.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Look, I'll tell you, and it tells you don't do this,
or rather say don't do this. It says, don't rely
on this. I've uploaded my blood work to GROC.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
To try to get ideas for health.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Uh like, because because the doctor, you know, the doctor,
as you all know, you go in there for the
most part, you get, you get your five minutes with
the doctor. Here's the big problem. Here's this whatever. I'm like, well,
what about this? What about that? I'm always a person
who I have more questions than the doctor wants to answer.
I can sit there and ask. Now, GROC will tell
you it's not a doctor. Same thing with Gemini and
(03:22):
these other you know, uh carat EPT and so you
should always consult with your doctor. But if you're just
you know, so there's that disclaimer. But it is amazing
the detailed information, factoral information you can get on these things.
But you remember that scene from Clueless, right, Oh yeah,
it's a great movie, and he's like he's like, you
do what you want with your butts, I'm calling in sick.
(03:42):
And then she's like so sad, and then she gets
romantic with her stepbrother, which I feel like everyone is
just a little too okay with in that movie. Remember
that play. Yeah, Josh is the step brother and they're
playing smoochy smooch, but it's like.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
That's your stepbrother. I think think that's weird.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Do you think that Paul Rudd is maybe one of
the people who has least aged in the last thirty
five years. I mean, I don't know what he does,
but if you look at him in basically his entire
acting career, he doesn't look very different now than he
did all the way back. He's basically looked thirty for
about thirty five years.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
That sounds about right, probably, Yeah, Yeah, he's not que
at Tom Cruise level where you're like, what what alien
science experiments are being run to make him still look
like he should be running around doing fly kicks when
the guy's like my dad's age.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
But yeah, sure right.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
What let me ask you this though, do you sign
on to my idea that AI initially is having more
of an upper middle class job impact than it is
lower You know, when I say class, I mean like
what your salary is. It's an enormous white collar. It's
an enormous efficiency tool for bureaucratic and paper shuffling kind
(05:00):
of work. And so there are a lot of people
who work on who have jobs where that is their job.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
What is the job really entail? It entails doing, you know,
doing research for things, going through things, finding things. Well,
now you can upload a you know, you can upload
one hundred thousand pages if you want to into some
of these AI programs, and it will give you every
citation or every every statistical example of whatever you're looking for,
(05:31):
and it can do it in a couple of minutes.
So you think about the time savings. We actually talked
to doctor Marty McCay about this and what's going on
with the FDA. Yeah, for massive medical trials, you know,
which they.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Do these big.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
You know, ten year, fifteen thousand person data sets and
all this this is going to make that Now that's
just a I think that's nothing but upside. But to
your point about some of these jobs, and here's we
had an HR a lady from HR calling before, right,
just saying that out loud, I feel like I'm about
to get in trouble for something. Yeah, right, we're gonna
get HR lady call for So is it just gonna
be honest? Clay and I have existed in the world
(06:07):
where you never want to hear from the HR lady.
I'm just gonna it's like, you know, especially if it's
a lady, I don't know, You're just gonna get where
It just means that we said something might have been
a joke that was made.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Does anyone get excited when the phone rings and they're like, hey,
it's HR. You're like, oh no, Like there's nobody out
there listening to us right now. That's like I've been
waiting for this call. Thank the Lord.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'm so so a little bit like when I get
my when I get a letter that says Internal Revenue
Service on it, I'm never like, oh sweet, I want
to open this one. So now I understand HR people
are probably all very annoyed with us right now and
would not hire us, But they would say, what about
when I have the amazing news of giving somebody their
dream job?
Speaker 4 (06:49):
And of course that is a.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
This was like what Clay the one the one season
of high school soccer I coached. The greatest thing was
the joy on the faces of the kids who want
to make the team so bad and were marginal who
made it that there we had. I had a couple
of like stuperstars who were gonna go play in college,
but I had two or three. I was like, well,
these kids are you know, they're they're like better than
I ever was, and they're freshmen. And then you know,
(07:13):
there were kids that were marginal. That was the greatest thing.
The worst thing was the kids who teared up when
they were close and didn't make it, and I had
to tell them, you know what I mean? That's the
so HR cuts both ways, right, because yeah, on the
one side you get to tell people dream job. The
other side it's I know, this would have been a
life changing salary increase for you, but we anyway. So
I think though in HR, and particularly you're seeing Ai
(07:34):
is because it's large data sets, it's efficiency based, and
their AI is doing the job of a lot of
HR people right now. And that is our that is
written about. That is clear, that is happening. So what
is HR really going to be doing because it's just
gonna you're gonna set your parameters. I need X amount
of years of experience, I need, you know, I'm gonna
look prioritize the following schools, et cetera, et cetera. You
(07:56):
can have somebody do this now with ten thousand resumes
and give you your top ten resumes in five minutes,
three minutes.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
I think that's one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I also think there's just a lot of pause on
hiring on those jobs because companies are saying, wait a minute,
maybe we don't fill that opening that we have.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Look, and here is.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
The Elon has come out recently and said, hey, we're
rapidly advancing to a world I think he said the
other day where having a job will be like growing
your own produce. People can choose to do it, but
it's not going to be the standard.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
These are people who believe that AI is truly over
the next ten to fifteen years going to be transformative
in a way that frankly most of us can't even comprehend,
and that we're going to basically have to figure out
a way to reorient society without working being a huge
part of it.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
This is where I'm reminded of Neval, who I've mentioned
several times before on the show Silicon Valley Guy, founder
of Angel List. It's been on a lot of the
big podcasts, and I just think is a very interesting
and sound thinker on things like this in particular, and
he breaks this down Clay into wealth versus status in
(09:13):
society and wealth and I think you very much take
this approach in general, like this is a part of
your We talked to this at WO WO and they're
asking what do you know about Claire, what do you
know about Buck? I think you believe that there are
ways that everybody can win and everybody can be doing better.
And that's true about wealth and anybody who denies that.
All of you right now, who are driving around in
(09:36):
your car with your you know, your Venti Starbucks hopefully
your Crockett Coffee actually, but in your heated seats, with
your airbags, on your iPhone, everything else you are living
in a space age, unimaginable future of wealth compared to
what King Henry the Eighth, like the actual king would
(09:58):
have had.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Right, your health cars, that.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Live better now than the wealthiest people did two hundred
years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yes, basically, your healthcare is better, your food is better,
your your comfort is better.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Your bed got to get.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Those sheets from you know what I'm talking about, Cozy Earth.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Henry. You know he was robust. He didn't have cozy
Earth sheets. You got.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
You have incredible wealth. Status is I'm in a better
place than you. Status is how do I stack up
to him or her?
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Right?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Status is a different thing, And he says that people
should always separate those in their minds. And when you're
talking about AI, you're talking about what should be able
to be widely distributed increases on of of societal and
global wealth along the lines of what we're talking about,
which is everybody has more. But it might get to
(10:50):
the point where everybody has so much more that people
start to hyper focus on what somebody next to them
has instead of what they have. And this is where
you get it to whether people will be happy, whether
people will be fulfilled by these things?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Will will you really be fulfilled?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
If you have I don't remember the name of the
robotic made from the Jetsons, but cleaning up everything, Row,
thank you Rosie making your food, cleaning up everything. You're
still gonna have wants and needs as a human being.
You know you're still you know this is this is
by the way, Clay. I also think, and I put
myself this category two, a lot of people have really
earnestly gone back to their faith and gone back to
(11:27):
church in recent years because I think they see, you know,
chasing the material things. Material things may get really boring
soon because everyone's going to have their material needs met.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
And for Christy who called in keep your head up.
I have been fired multiple times. I've lost my jobs
multiple times. I know how stressful that entire process is.
I know there are lots of you out there in
this camp, and we hope again that that you're going
to find employment, and all of you are going to
find employment sooner rather than later. I do think at
(12:02):
a big picture part of what's going on is AI
disruption that is starting to work its way through the economy,
and frankly, I'm not smart enough to understand exactly what
the full on ramifications of this are going to be.
But some of the smartest people in the world believe
that the next decade is going to be transformative on
(12:22):
a level we may not even be able to comprehend
right now.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, it may make the Internet look like small potatoes
by comparison. Just one thing I would say for anyone
who's listening who's having trouble finding a job. In my experience,
and I've had I've had very different kinds of careers,
two very different careers really, and look, I've worked in different.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Kinds of things.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So as Clay and Clay started companies especially now, don't
just rely on blind resumes. If you want to send
those in, that's fine, you know, send them into that inbox.
It could work. It could work. Talk to people, and
I really mean that. You know, you're at you're at
a car dealership that seems like it's just really really
well run, and you think you'd be good in sales.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Talk to them. Yeah, just just start.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
You don't have to be like, hey, I want a job,
Just start, you know, start gathering that information, creating that
contact with people. I think this is true for a
whole range of things, but for finding a job. People
get jobs from other people. You actually don't get a
job from an email inbox. Always remember that Buck Sexton. Here,
the entire Clay and Bucks show wish you and your
(13:28):
family a warm Christmas season and a joyful New Year.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
You're listening to the best of Clay, Travis and Buck
Sexton playll.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
I think this whole conversation about Clay not carrying cash
is his justification for not paying his sports bets to
Sean Hannity.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Clay, you own Hannity money. I've Worney.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I've lost every bet to Hannity, and he's been talking
about it lately. And I saw him in person on Thursday.
I was just like, man, I didn't get a chance.
I haven't been to the ATM. So, uh, you know,
shawnt left left your wallet and your other suit jacket?
Is that where we are played? I had the tous on,
I had the tucks on at the Patriot Awards. I'm
not usually having the wallet in the tuxpants. Uh, And
(14:16):
so it's just tough timing for me. And uh yeah,
that is Uh, that is very very funny. A lot
of great reactions, by the way, pouring in on many
different topics out there.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Including all of you people who love change pocket change.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
All of you men out there with ten pounds of
pocket change and one of your pockets pulling down your pants.
That's why you have to wear a belt buckle, because
the change is just overloading your uh your pants otherwise.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Dragging you down.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And uh, let's see, I want to catch up with
all of these, uh you know, I will say I
was reading an article the original silver buck in the
in the coins I believe stopped around nineteen sixty, and
so an average quarter and half dollar I think is
(15:10):
now worth if it's pre nineteen sixty, because we've seen
precious metals prices go up to such an extent. I
think if you find a half dollar or a quarter
that is full silver, they're now actually worth over three
dollars each. And I don't want you to look to
me to be your precious metals expert, so you can
do your own research. But they stopped making one hundred
(15:33):
percent silver coins, I believe it was sometime around nineteen sixty,
and if you find them from before, they're actually worth
way more than the face value of the coin. To
try to win back coin officionados out there.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, you know, in ancient Rome, they did this. They
had initially in their coinage. Early Roman coins had silver.
They were silver, they were made of silver, and almost
entirely and then over time they started the debasement of
their own coinage by putting less and less silver in
(16:06):
the coins.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Didn't that also contribute to insane rates of lead poisoning
the way that they made the coins back in the day.
I think I'm correct about that in terms of the
impact of coinage. But yes, that is typically what happens
is you're debasing on a face value level the substance
under which your currency is based. Michigan Tim He says
(16:29):
he's got a coin operated laundromat. Imagine the amount of
coins he's collecting on a daily basis.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Gigi, I own.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
A coin operated laundromat. I sure hope they don't get
rid of quarters.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Well, look, they're not going to get rid of them.
The question is, and this topic came up because they
are finishing the production of pennies, so pennies will continue
to circulate.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
There just won't be new ones coming into.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
The overall coin release, and the reality is most people
are still going to keep losing pennies in their couch cushions.
And eventually they will all vanish, but that's where they
will be.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
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Speaker 1 (17:13):
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(17:35):
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Speaker 4 (17:53):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I was last night on with our friend Sean Hannity
as the President was preparing to the bill to open
the government back up.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yes, just I think it's very big of Sean to
have you on a show while you still owe him
some cold hard cash.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
And you know, Sean's a very nice guy.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
He's letting you get on a show even though there's
an outstanding dead here.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
It is true.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I mean, I can honestly say, I don't think I've
ever been on any one show that I owed money
to before. And Hannity has not broken any legs. He
hasn't loan sharked me out. I haven't had, you know,
anybody knocking on the door looking to collect. Unfortunately for me,
I don't carry around that much cash. So it's just
just been a thing. Like I saw Sean last week
(18:38):
at Patriot Awards told him, I said, hey, man, sorry,
I'm weren't a tux.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I forgot to.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Bring cash, and god forbid I had any change this week.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
We're lucky Hannity as a gentleman, is all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
We got a lot of emails from people out there
that love pocket change, which we can have some fun
with before the show is over. But they had to
cover phill time, and so they had our friend Peter
Deucey was on from the White House lawn and Sean
was just asked him, Hey, how much different is it
(19:10):
for the media that cover the president now, where basically
you can ask questions all the time compared to Joe
Biden where he might show up once a week and
kind of mumble through things. And how do the media
talk about that. I thought it was a good question.
Here's an interesting answer where Deucey's like, man, I got
to scramble to even find new questions to ask the
(19:32):
president because he answers so many of them.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Listen, it's totally backwards covering Joe Biden for four years
and covering this president for almost a year now. In
that the Biden administration, at most, you would see him
once a week and you had like one sentence worth
of a shouted question.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
You could hope for a one word answer.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
At best, and then I would have to make that
last meet a week or more, whether on the campaign
trail or here at the White House, whereas with this president,
there's typically only one day week that you don't see him,
and you go in there with two pages of questions
and he'll be rattling off answers, and other people might
ask your questions, and it's like, I don't think I
have enough. You open up your phone, you go to
daily mail. It's like, what else is happening today that
(20:14):
I can ask the president about right now?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I just thought that was really funny that Trump is
answering so many questions about so many different topics that
sometimes if you're in the oval office and preparing yourself
to be asking him questions, he runs through the entire
roster of questions. So you're going on dailymail dot com
to check and see what the latest news is. Maybe
(20:38):
OutKick dot com. Okay, a bunch of people want to
weigh in, buck, We got loaded wines all over the country.
Let's uh, let's go to Dave in Rochester, New York.
We'll start with you, Dave fire Away.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Hey, guys, love your show. So I think I think
you're missing the mark on the grocery store food desert.
What's happened? There's so much theft. Actually, stores have to
lock product up. I've in Rochester, New York, and there's uh,
you know, Wegman's chain here in Rochester, and they moved
out of the city entirely, with the exception one store
due to theft. Yeah, and we've got two walmarts in
(21:13):
Rochester that basically have two law enforcement cars outside and
shot spotters in the parking lot. So it's not that,
you know, they don't want to buy stuff, it's that
there's so much stuff. There's no profit to run a
grocery store.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Well, thank you, it's it's a combination of multiple factors.
But what we were talking about in particular was the
products that are sold in the grocery store. Even when
they are discounting quote unquote healthy foods, the people who
buy product still want to buy the unhealthy food.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
In other word, it's not an absence.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
And people aren't aren't swiping all the shark cootery. I
can assure you that's not that's not what's happening.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
And also we've talked about this quite a lot, because
the worst thing about a store shutting down in the
in the neighbor is not only the lack of access
to the store, oftentimes because of theft, it takes all
those jobs out of the community. So you have to
get on a bus or you have to get on
public transit and go a decent distance to.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Have a job.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Look, you can see you can take a drive through
any neighborhood really in America, and you know, based on
the businesses and kind of how the businesses look, you
know what the vibe is around the business, what kind
of a neighborhood you're in. If you're in a neighborhood
where the businesses have bars on the doors, bars on
(22:33):
the windows. Even for like a seven to eleven setup,
it looks like there's a bank teller behind, you know,
bulletproof glass. You're in bad shape. If there's a lot
of check cashing places. If there's a lot of liquor stores,
especially kind of depressing looking liquor stores, you're in bad shape.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
We talked about what happened at some of these pharmacies
when there were the BLM riots that would burn down
these pharmacies. Play some of those places like a wall,
you know walls. People actually get their food there, that
get groceries that they'll go there to get yelp, they'll
go there to get So when those close down, it's
not just oh I have to go further from my
prescription or whatever. It's also adding to the lack of
(23:13):
good food options. Look, I I spent about a year
and a half of the NYPD, and we would do
we would do steakouts.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I mean, I know that sounds like I was. I
would do steakouts.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
You an un marked carr'd below the detective and in
some very very sketchy neighborhoods and you know people, uh
you'd see like what they're buying and where they go
what the stores look like. You can tell in a
lot of these stores what the average income of the
people living in the neighborhood is just by what by
(23:44):
the grab and go right by the register. I'm telling
you know, if you're in a fancy if you're in
a fancy ish or even a middle class neighborhood, it's
going to be like, you know, nice chocolate bars and
things like that. If you're in a rough neighborhood, it's
going to be off brand chips, it's going to be
off brand whatever. And you know, you see these things
playing out, and people pick up on these signals in
(24:07):
their own community, and it's and it's a shame because
you should have pride in.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
The businesses in your community.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
To your point, also employers in your community, which makes it,
you know, a place that people feel more invested in
as well, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Joe in Naples, Florida, Joe, what you got for us.
Speaker 8 (24:27):
Gentlemen, I want to weigh in on the h one bs.
For mid seventies through two thousand and eight, I ran
a technology company in the Boston area. I was competing
with half a dozen major computer companies, a lot of
tech I had to use H one B's because the
American schools were not turning out the quality of engineer
(24:52):
and mathematicians I needed. I used a couple of Germans,
an Englishman, and a Japanese among others. I put the
issue down to in the fifties and sixties we had
the big Eisenhower Science and Technology initiative in schools, and
that faded out by the mid seventies. I use them.
(25:14):
I wound up having to pay as much, if not more,
to get qualified engineers, data scientists, and math people.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
And so you couldn't find in your experience in Boston,
you couldn't find Americans with This was not a dollars
decision for you. Necessarily, you couldn't find American born workers
with the skill set you needed to have an effective company.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
I would go down to MIT. I'm an alum of MIT.
I would go down there every interview opportunity, and I
might be able to get one engineer, one applied math guy.
Because I was competing against IBM, Deck, Data, General Wang,
a whole bunch of other big boys they could we got.
We got MIT, Northeastern bu. The fight for the fight
(26:08):
for qualified folks started very heavy in the late seventies
early eighties. The first five years of the business, I
could sort of find what I needed. But when the
colleges started dumbing down grades and the government initiative on
the space race and technologies started going down, couldn't get them,
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just could not get the quality of engineer.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Thank you for the call.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
And this is what I would say, Buck is somewhat
of a clarion call for needing to graduate more American
born students with skills in the so called hard sciences
as opposed to the social sciences, which tend to be
easier and aren't as challenging.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Jeff and Las Vegas, you got to take for us.
Thanks for calling.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
Work for thirty years.
Speaker 9 (27:02):
And when I started out, all the recruiters, all the
recruiters were Americans, and as a contract programmer, my life
depends on recruiters. Now the majority are Indians, and not
only that, I would say about ten or twenty percent
are calling from India. And I'd like to refute the
first the guy that just was on. I've been a
(27:22):
VP director and I've hired programmers. I've hired Indian programmers,
and I've hired American programmers, and American programmers are just
as good, if not better. When I was at American
Mutual Funds, American Mutual Funds is in Irvine, California, which
is a big Indian community. Now there were floors and
(27:45):
floors of Indians, but senior management, senior management were all
Americans getting bonuses. One last thing, just to show you
how dumb American companies can be. I worked for Boeing
for a while, and when I was there, when they
made a contract, and when they made a deal with China.
(28:05):
And the deal was that China would buy several hundred
and seven forty sevens if Boeing would agree to turn
over all the engineering documents on the technologies that go
into building seven forty sevens. Guess what Boeing made the deal.
And one last thing, you guys have got one of
the top shows in America. Use your show. When you
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guys come up with great, great ideas, which you do
all the time, call these calls Chuck Schumber, call call
these the call AOC, call a Crockett and live online.
And if they're too cowardly, the answer great, We'll all
see it.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
They're all full of crack.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Hey, well, thank you for the call.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
A lot of good comments there, they won't come on,
and I think there's now a rule where we aren't allowed.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I know this was an old school radio thing.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
You could just call people and try to get them
online line without get them on air, without saying who
you are, and you would get them talking and then
they find out, hey, we're talking to tons of people
all over the city or all over the state or
the nation.
Speaker 8 (29:10):
We have we have.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Extended offers to people across the political spectrum.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
And there are a couple a couple of things on this.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
One is we would never get even forget about that rule,
which I think you're you're right on that, but I'd
have to look into it. We wouldn't get around their staff.
They don't Chuck schu there's no there's no like bat
phone to Chuck Schumer. Well, at least we don't have it.
We don't have that line where we could call in.
So we're not going to get around his staff. And
I honestly think a lot of the time there's a
(29:38):
limited value with some of these Democrats. They're just gonna say,
you know, Chuck Schumer would say, it's about affordability, it's
about healthcare. Donald Trump is wrecking the Republic.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
You've already you've already heard.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
It all, and that's why I don't really you know,
we can pick and choose, like Fetterman would be interesting
because there's some areas where you could actually get to
a play of some agreement, a little disagreement. There's a
give and take with your run of the mill democrat
on a radio show, I mean a Democrat politician on
a radio show. They're just gonna say what they always say,
(30:11):
I mean, what they're saying on CNN. They're going to
stay right on the talking points. So I just don't
think it's very likely to be instructive or very good
radio personally. If that wasn't the case, I think we
would push more to get Democrats on. Plus Kay will
yell at them like you did Mike Pence and then
everyone will cry.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I would be I would be very happy to get
these guys on. They won't come on.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I think it's because they just know that they don't
have anything beyond talking points. And talking points in a
three minute television hit might work in a fifteen minute
radio it actually expected.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I can give you a preview of our of our
conversation with Chuck, our imaginary conversations with Chuck Schumer. I'd say,
Senator Schumer, so have premiums for the average American on
the individual market gone up on average one hundred percent
or more over the last ten years. And you know
who's response be Donald Trump doesn't care about the working
class and doesn't care about middle America, and we want
(31:07):
to make sure your premiums are cheap. And I could
repeat my question, I could say it again, but sure
is it true? You know what he would say, Donald
Trump doesn't care about the middle class. He's you know,
blah blah. This is why you don't really get very
far with these people. So especially Shoomer, he wouldn't even
be fun.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
He's actually really boring and not a great communicator, which
is not ideal. Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck Show,
wishing you and your family a very merry Christmas and
a happy New Year.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. We got kind
of a short one here to close out the show,
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about this tomorrow. The Open Table app, which I use
less now that I'm a dad, because you know, it's
a lot more time dealing with pulling Puraid p's off
the floor, you know, I mean, we're in that phase.
You don't get to go out to dinner as often
(32:22):
as you used to. New we have to get a
babysitter because also the dog and my baby have they
have a deal going where the dog now goes close
to the high chair and knows that about seventy five
percent of the Puraid food ends up on the ground,
and so she's the cleanup crew. So I can't I
can't stop this right because I'm like, well, it's kind
of efficient, but that's what's going on. But Open Table Clay,
(32:46):
the app that everyone uses for reservations, Open tables collecting
more than just where you like to eat on people,
And I want to get into this. I actually I'll
tell you this everybody. I think if you're a repeat
canceler on restaurants for reservation, I think that should be
taken into account. I think we should have something of
a dining out social credit score. I know some of
(33:07):
you're gonna get so ticked off, but I'm into it.
So we can talk about this tomorrow
Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck Show, wishing you
and your family of very mary Christmas and a happy
New Year.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Buck Sexton here the entire Clay and Bucks Show wish
you and your family a warm Christmas season and a
joyful New Year.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Thank you for listening. This is the best of with
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Welcome back in Clay Travis
Buck Sexton Show. Okay, we just had the call Christy.
Was it Christy who called in from Utah? She was
talking about the job market she works in HR and
the challenges that she is seeing. I'm sure that many
(00:35):
of you who are looking for jobs have seen the
same thing. Here's what I think is going on, Buck,
and you can sign on or not sign on to this.
I think that AI.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Is going to be incredibly transformative for many different companies
out there. And I actually think that some of the
jobs that are being pushed aside right now are actually
more white collar than blue collar in nature. And so
(01:07):
there are certain jobs. Let's say you're a plumber right now,
I don't think there's AI plumbing that is taking away
your job. I don't think that if you're a roofer
there's AI roofing that is changing what you're doing, truck driving,
so far, all those things quote unquote blue collar jobs,
working with your hands in some sort of factory. I
think there are a lot of thought related so called
(01:28):
white collar jobs. Then a lot of companies are just
not filling right now because they don't know necessarily how
quickly AI is going to advance and eliminate a lot
of these jobs. And so I think there's a bit
of an inversion in the job market where there are
a lot of people who felt very confident, Hey, I'm
always going to have a job, and I talk about
(01:50):
this with my boys even now.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I think a lot of lawyers are going to be
losing their jobs in the years ahead, because when I
graduated law school, you had twenty five year old lawyers
who would sit in front of a computer screen and
would be looking through documents and flagging the relevant documents
and all these things, billing hundreds of dollars. That's going
to become automated. I think a lot of these consulting
jobs that people got, a lot of these investment banking jobs.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
They if you remember the super.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Skilled, if you remember share in the timeless classic clueless
gets into trouble with the mean associate lawyer because she
highlights the June ninth calls or whatever, and she's supposed
to highlight the June fifth calls. But in the nineties
you had lawyers who were making hundreds and hundreds of
(02:37):
dollars an hour doing stuff like that, going through phone records.
Not even just the nineties, I mean until recently. The
once you start to use AI as a tool, and
I would recommend that all of you do so for
your own lives.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
As a tool.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Look, I'll tell you, and it tells you don't do this,
or rather say don't do this. It says, don't rely
on this. I've uploaded my blood work to GROC.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
To try to get ideas for health.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Uh like, because because the doctor, you know, the doctor,
as you all know, you go in there for the
most part, you get, you get your five minutes with
the doctor. Here's the big problem. Here's this whatever. I'm like, well,
what about this? What about that? I'm always a person
who I have more questions than the doctor wants to answer.
I can sit there and ask. Now, GROC will tell
you it's not a doctor. Same thing with Gemini and
(03:22):
these other you know, uh carat EPT and so you
should always consult with your doctor. But if you're just
you know, so there's that disclaimer. But it is amazing
the detailed information, factoral information you can get on these things.
But you remember that scene from Clueless, right, Oh yeah,
it's a great movie, and he's like he's like, you
do what you want with your butts, I'm calling in sick.
(03:42):
And then she's like so sad, and then she gets
romantic with her stepbrother, which I feel like everyone is
just a little too okay with in that movie. Remember
that play. Yeah, Josh is the step brother and they're
playing smoochy smooch, but it's like.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
That's your stepbrother. I think think that's weird.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Do you think that Paul Rudd is maybe one of
the people who has least aged in the last thirty
five years. I mean, I don't know what he does,
but if you look at him in basically his entire
acting career, he doesn't look very different now than he
did all the way back. He's basically looked thirty for
about thirty five years.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
That sounds about right, probably, Yeah, Yeah, he's not que
at Tom Cruise level where you're like, what what alien
science experiments are being run to make him still look
like he should be running around doing fly kicks when
the guy's like my dad's age.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
But yeah, sure right.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
What let me ask you this though, do you sign
on to my idea that AI initially is having more
of an upper middle class job impact than it is
lower You know, when I say class, I mean like
what your salary is. It's an enormous white collar. It's
an enormous efficiency tool for bureaucratic and paper shuffling kind
(05:00):
of work. And so there are a lot of people
who work on who have jobs where that is their job.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
What is the job really entail? It entails doing, you know,
doing research for things, going through things, finding things. Well,
now you can upload a you know, you can upload
one hundred thousand pages if you want to into some
of these AI programs, and it will give you every
citation or every every statistical example of whatever you're looking for,
(05:31):
and it can do it in a couple of minutes.
So you think about the time savings. We actually talked
to doctor Marty McCay about this and what's going on
with the FDA. Yeah, for massive medical trials, you know,
which they.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Do these big.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
You know, ten year, fifteen thousand person data sets and
all this this is going to make that Now that's
just a I think that's nothing but upside. But to
your point about some of these jobs, and here's we
had an HR a lady from HR calling before, right,
just saying that out loud, I feel like I'm about
to get in trouble for something. Yeah, right, we're gonna
get HR lady call for So is it just gonna
be honest? Clay and I have existed in the world
(06:07):
where you never want to hear from the HR lady.
I'm just gonna it's like, you know, especially if it's
a lady, I don't know, You're just gonna get where
It just means that we said something might have been
a joke that was made.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Does anyone get excited when the phone rings and they're like, hey,
it's HR. You're like, oh no, Like there's nobody out
there listening to us right now. That's like I've been
waiting for this call. Thank the Lord.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'm so so a little bit like when I get
my when I get a letter that says Internal Revenue
Service on it, I'm never like, oh sweet, I want
to open this one. So now I understand HR people
are probably all very annoyed with us right now and
would not hire us, But they would say, what about
when I have the amazing news of giving somebody their
dream job?
Speaker 4 (06:49):
And of course that is a.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
This was like what Clay the one the one season
of high school soccer I coached. The greatest thing was
the joy on the faces of the kids who want
to make the team so bad and were marginal who
made it that there we had. I had a couple
of like stuperstars who were gonna go play in college,
but I had two or three. I was like, well,
these kids are you know, they're they're like better than
I ever was, and they're freshmen. And then you know,
(07:13):
there were kids that were marginal. That was the greatest thing.
The worst thing was the kids who teared up when
they were close and didn't make it, and I had
to tell them, you know what I mean? That's the
so HR cuts both ways, right, because yeah, on the
one side you get to tell people dream job. The
other side it's I know, this would have been a
life changing salary increase for you, but we anyway. So
I think though in HR, and particularly you're seeing Ai
(07:34):
is because it's large data sets, it's efficiency based, and
their AI is doing the job of a lot of
HR people right now. And that is our that is
written about. That is clear, that is happening. So what
is HR really going to be doing because it's just
gonna you're gonna set your parameters. I need X amount
of years of experience, I need, you know, I'm gonna
look prioritize the following schools, et cetera, et cetera. You
(07:56):
can have somebody do this now with ten thousand resumes
and give you your top ten resumes in five minutes,
three minutes.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
I think that's one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I also think there's just a lot of pause on
hiring on those jobs because companies are saying, wait a minute,
maybe we don't fill that opening that we have.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Look, and here is.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
The Elon has come out recently and said, hey, we're
rapidly advancing to a world I think he said the
other day where having a job will be like growing
your own produce. People can choose to do it, but
it's not going to be the standard.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
These are people who believe that AI is truly over
the next ten to fifteen years going to be transformative
in a way that frankly most of us can't even comprehend,
and that we're going to basically have to figure out
a way to reorient society without working being a huge
part of it.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
This is where I'm reminded of Neval, who I've mentioned
several times before on the show Silicon Valley Guy, founder
of Angel List. It's been on a lot of the
big podcasts, and I just think is a very interesting
and sound thinker on things like this in particular, and
he breaks this down Clay into wealth versus status in
(09:13):
society and wealth and I think you very much take
this approach in general, like this is a part of
your We talked to this at WO WO and they're
asking what do you know about Claire, what do you
know about Buck? I think you believe that there are
ways that everybody can win and everybody can be doing better.
And that's true about wealth and anybody who denies that.
All of you right now, who are driving around in
(09:36):
your car with your you know, your Venti Starbucks hopefully
your Crockett Coffee actually, but in your heated seats, with
your airbags, on your iPhone, everything else you are living
in a space age, unimaginable future of wealth compared to
what King Henry the Eighth, like the actual king would
(09:58):
have had.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Right, your health cars, that.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Live better now than the wealthiest people did two hundred
years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yes, basically, your healthcare is better, your food is better,
your your comfort is better.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Your bed got to get.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Those sheets from you know what I'm talking about, Cozy Earth.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Henry. You know he was robust. He didn't have cozy
Earth sheets. You got.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
You have incredible wealth. Status is I'm in a better
place than you. Status is how do I stack up
to him or her?
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Right?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Status is a different thing, And he says that people
should always separate those in their minds. And when you're
talking about AI, you're talking about what should be able
to be widely distributed increases on of of societal and
global wealth along the lines of what we're talking about,
which is everybody has more. But it might get to
(10:50):
the point where everybody has so much more that people
start to hyper focus on what somebody next to them
has instead of what they have. And this is where
you get it to whether people will be happy, whether
people will be fulfilled by these things?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Will will you really be fulfilled?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
If you have I don't remember the name of the
robotic made from the Jetsons, but cleaning up everything, Row,
thank you Rosie making your food, cleaning up everything. You're
still gonna have wants and needs as a human being.
You know you're still you know this is this is
by the way, Clay. I also think, and I put
myself this category two, a lot of people have really
earnestly gone back to their faith and gone back to
(11:27):
church in recent years because I think they see, you know,
chasing the material things. Material things may get really boring
soon because everyone's going to have their material needs met.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
And for Christy who called in keep your head up.
I have been fired multiple times. I've lost my jobs
multiple times. I know how stressful that entire process is.
I know there are lots of you out there in
this camp, and we hope again that that you're going
to find employment, and all of you are going to
find employment sooner rather than later. I do think at
(12:02):
a big picture part of what's going on is AI
disruption that is starting to work its way through the economy,
and frankly, I'm not smart enough to understand exactly what
the full on ramifications of this are going to be.
But some of the smartest people in the world believe
that the next decade is going to be transformative on
(12:22):
a level we may not even be able to comprehend
right now.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, it may make the Internet look like small potatoes
by comparison. Just one thing I would say for anyone
who's listening who's having trouble finding a job. In my experience,
and I've had I've had very different kinds of careers,
two very different careers really, and look, I've worked in different.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Kinds of things.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So as Clay and Clay started companies especially now, don't
just rely on blind resumes. If you want to send
those in, that's fine, you know, send them into that inbox.
It could work. It could work. Talk to people, and
I really mean that. You know, you're at you're at
a car dealership that seems like it's just really really
well run, and you think you'd be good in sales.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Talk to them. Yeah, just just start.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
You don't have to be like, hey, I want a job,
Just start, you know, start gathering that information, creating that
contact with people. I think this is true for a
whole range of things, but for finding a job. People
get jobs from other people. You actually don't get a
job from an email inbox. Always remember that Buck Sexton. Here,
the entire Clay and Bucks show wish you and your
(13:28):
family a warm Christmas season and a joyful New Year.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
You're listening to the best of Clay, Travis and Buck
Sexton playll.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
I think this whole conversation about Clay not carrying cash
is his justification for not paying his sports bets to
Sean Hannity.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Clay, you own Hannity money. I've Worney.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I've lost every bet to Hannity, and he's been talking
about it lately. And I saw him in person on Thursday.
I was just like, man, I didn't get a chance.
I haven't been to the ATM. So, uh, you know,
shawnt left left your wallet and your other suit jacket?
Is that where we are played? I had the tous on,
I had the tucks on at the Patriot Awards. I'm
not usually having the wallet in the tuxpants. Uh, And
(14:16):
so it's just tough timing for me. And uh yeah,
that is Uh, that is very very funny. A lot
of great reactions, by the way, pouring in on many
different topics out there.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Including all of you people who love change pocket change.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
All of you men out there with ten pounds of
pocket change and one of your pockets pulling down your pants.
That's why you have to wear a belt buckle, because
the change is just overloading your uh your pants otherwise.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Dragging you down.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And uh, let's see, I want to catch up with
all of these, uh you know, I will say I
was reading an article the original silver buck in the
in the coins I believe stopped around nineteen sixty, and
so an average quarter and half dollar I think is
(15:10):
now worth if it's pre nineteen sixty, because we've seen
precious metals prices go up to such an extent. I
think if you find a half dollar or a quarter
that is full silver, they're now actually worth over three
dollars each. And I don't want you to look to
me to be your precious metals expert, so you can
do your own research. But they stopped making one hundred
(15:33):
percent silver coins, I believe it was sometime around nineteen sixty,
and if you find them from before, they're actually worth
way more than the face value of the coin. To
try to win back coin officionados out there.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, you know, in ancient Rome, they did this. They
had initially in their coinage. Early Roman coins had silver.
They were silver, they were made of silver, and almost
entirely and then over time they started the debasement of
their own coinage by putting less and less silver in
(16:06):
the coins.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Didn't that also contribute to insane rates of lead poisoning
the way that they made the coins back in the day.
I think I'm correct about that in terms of the
impact of coinage. But yes, that is typically what happens
is you're debasing on a face value level the substance
under which your currency is based. Michigan Tim He says
(16:29):
he's got a coin operated laundromat. Imagine the amount of
coins he's collecting on a daily basis.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Gigi, I own.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
A coin operated laundromat. I sure hope they don't get
rid of quarters.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Well, look, they're not going to get rid of them.
The question is, and this topic came up because they
are finishing the production of pennies, so pennies will continue
to circulate.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
There just won't be new ones coming into.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
The overall coin release, and the reality is most people
are still going to keep losing pennies in their couch cushions.
And eventually they will all vanish, but that's where they
will be.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
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Speaker 4 (17:53):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I was last night on with our friend Sean Hannity
as the President was preparing to the bill to open
the government back up.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yes, just I think it's very big of Sean to
have you on a show while you still owe him
some cold hard cash.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
And you know, Sean's a very nice guy.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
He's letting you get on a show even though there's
an outstanding dead here.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
It is true.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I mean, I can honestly say, I don't think I've
ever been on any one show that I owed money
to before. And Hannity has not broken any legs. He
hasn't loan sharked me out. I haven't had, you know,
anybody knocking on the door looking to collect. Unfortunately for me,
I don't carry around that much cash. So it's just
just been a thing. Like I saw Sean last week
(18:38):
at Patriot Awards told him, I said, hey, man, sorry,
I'm weren't a tux.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I forgot to.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Bring cash, and god forbid I had any change this week.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
We're lucky Hannity as a gentleman, is all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
We got a lot of emails from people out there
that love pocket change, which we can have some fun
with before the show is over. But they had to
cover phill time, and so they had our friend Peter
Deucey was on from the White House lawn and Sean
was just asked him, Hey, how much different is it
(19:10):
for the media that cover the president now, where basically
you can ask questions all the time compared to Joe
Biden where he might show up once a week and
kind of mumble through things. And how do the media
talk about that. I thought it was a good question.
Here's an interesting answer where Deucey's like, man, I got
to scramble to even find new questions to ask the
(19:32):
president because he answers so many of them.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Listen, it's totally backwards covering Joe Biden for four years
and covering this president for almost a year now. In
that the Biden administration, at most, you would see him
once a week and you had like one sentence worth
of a shouted question.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
You could hope for a one word answer.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
At best, and then I would have to make that
last meet a week or more, whether on the campaign
trail or here at the White House, whereas with this president,
there's typically only one day week that you don't see him,
and you go in there with two pages of questions
and he'll be rattling off answers, and other people might
ask your questions, and it's like, I don't think I
have enough. You open up your phone, you go to
daily mail. It's like, what else is happening today that
(20:14):
I can ask the president about right now?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I just thought that was really funny that Trump is
answering so many questions about so many different topics that
sometimes if you're in the oval office and preparing yourself
to be asking him questions, he runs through the entire
roster of questions. So you're going on dailymail dot com
to check and see what the latest news is. Maybe
(20:38):
OutKick dot com. Okay, a bunch of people want to
weigh in, buck, We got loaded wines all over the country.
Let's uh, let's go to Dave in Rochester, New York.
We'll start with you, Dave fire Away.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Hey, guys, love your show. So I think I think
you're missing the mark on the grocery store food desert.
What's happened? There's so much theft. Actually, stores have to
lock product up. I've in Rochester, New York, and there's uh,
you know, Wegman's chain here in Rochester, and they moved
out of the city entirely, with the exception one store
due to theft. Yeah, and we've got two walmarts in
(21:13):
Rochester that basically have two law enforcement cars outside and
shot spotters in the parking lot. So it's not that,
you know, they don't want to buy stuff, it's that
there's so much stuff. There's no profit to run a
grocery store.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Well, thank you, it's it's a combination of multiple factors.
But what we were talking about in particular was the
products that are sold in the grocery store. Even when
they are discounting quote unquote healthy foods, the people who
buy product still want to buy the unhealthy food.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
In other word, it's not an absence.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
And people aren't aren't swiping all the shark cootery. I
can assure you that's not that's not what's happening.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
And also we've talked about this quite a lot, because
the worst thing about a store shutting down in the
in the neighbor is not only the lack of access
to the store, oftentimes because of theft, it takes all
those jobs out of the community. So you have to
get on a bus or you have to get on
public transit and go a decent distance to.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Have a job.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Look, you can see you can take a drive through
any neighborhood really in America, and you know, based on
the businesses and kind of how the businesses look, you
know what the vibe is around the business, what kind
of a neighborhood you're in. If you're in a neighborhood
where the businesses have bars on the doors, bars on
(22:33):
the windows. Even for like a seven to eleven setup,
it looks like there's a bank teller behind, you know,
bulletproof glass. You're in bad shape. If there's a lot
of check cashing places. If there's a lot of liquor stores,
especially kind of depressing looking liquor stores, you're in bad shape.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
We talked about what happened at some of these pharmacies
when there were the BLM riots that would burn down
these pharmacies. Play some of those places like a wall,
you know walls. People actually get their food there, that
get groceries that they'll go there to get yelp, they'll
go there to get So when those close down, it's
not just oh I have to go further from my
prescription or whatever. It's also adding to the lack of
(23:13):
good food options. Look, I I spent about a year
and a half of the NYPD, and we would do
we would do steakouts.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I mean, I know that sounds like I was. I
would do steakouts.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
You an un marked carr'd below the detective and in
some very very sketchy neighborhoods and you know people, uh
you'd see like what they're buying and where they go
what the stores look like. You can tell in a
lot of these stores what the average income of the
people living in the neighborhood is just by what by
(23:44):
the grab and go right by the register. I'm telling
you know, if you're in a fancy if you're in
a fancy ish or even a middle class neighborhood, it's
going to be like, you know, nice chocolate bars and
things like that. If you're in a rough neighborhood, it's
going to be off brand chips, it's going to be
off brand whatever. And you know, you see these things
playing out, and people pick up on these signals in
(24:07):
their own community, and it's and it's a shame because
you should have pride in.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
The businesses in your community.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
To your point, also employers in your community, which makes it,
you know, a place that people feel more invested in
as well, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Joe in Naples, Florida, Joe, what you got for us.
Speaker 8 (24:27):
Gentlemen, I want to weigh in on the h one bs.
For mid seventies through two thousand and eight, I ran
a technology company in the Boston area. I was competing
with half a dozen major computer companies, a lot of
tech I had to use H one B's because the
American schools were not turning out the quality of engineer
(24:52):
and mathematicians I needed. I used a couple of Germans,
an Englishman, and a Japanese among others. I put the
issue down to in the fifties and sixties we had
the big Eisenhower Science and Technology initiative in schools, and
that faded out by the mid seventies. I use them.
(25:14):
I wound up having to pay as much, if not more,
to get qualified engineers, data scientists, and math people.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
And so you couldn't find in your experience in Boston,
you couldn't find Americans with This was not a dollars
decision for you. Necessarily, you couldn't find American born workers
with the skill set you needed to have an effective company.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
I would go down to MIT. I'm an alum of MIT.
I would go down there every interview opportunity, and I
might be able to get one engineer, one applied math guy.
Because I was competing against IBM, Deck, Data, General Wang,
a whole bunch of other big boys they could we got.
We got MIT, Northeastern bu. The fight for the fight
(26:08):
for qualified folks started very heavy in the late seventies
early eighties. The first five years of the business, I
could sort of find what I needed. But when the
colleges started dumbing down grades and the government initiative on
the space race and technologies started going down, couldn't get them,
(26:31):
just could not get the quality of engineer.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Thank you for the call.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
And this is what I would say, Buck is somewhat
of a clarion call for needing to graduate more American
born students with skills in the so called hard sciences
as opposed to the social sciences, which tend to be
easier and aren't as challenging.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Jeff and Las Vegas, you got to take for us.
Thanks for calling.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
Work for thirty years.
Speaker 9 (27:02):
And when I started out, all the recruiters, all the
recruiters were Americans, and as a contract programmer, my life
depends on recruiters. Now the majority are Indians, and not
only that, I would say about ten or twenty percent
are calling from India. And I'd like to refute the
first the guy that just was on. I've been a
(27:22):
VP director and I've hired programmers. I've hired Indian programmers,
and I've hired American programmers, and American programmers are just
as good, if not better. When I was at American
Mutual Funds, American Mutual Funds is in Irvine, California, which
is a big Indian community. Now there were floors and
(27:45):
floors of Indians, but senior management, senior management were all
Americans getting bonuses. One last thing, just to show you
how dumb American companies can be. I worked for Boeing
for a while, and when I was there, when they
made a contract, and when they made a deal with China.
(28:05):
And the deal was that China would buy several hundred
and seven forty sevens if Boeing would agree to turn
over all the engineering documents on the technologies that go
into building seven forty sevens. Guess what Boeing made the deal.
And one last thing, you guys have got one of
the top shows in America. Use your show. When you
(28:29):
guys come up with great, great ideas, which you do
all the time, call these calls Chuck Schumber, call call
these the call AOC, call a Crockett and live online.
And if they're too cowardly, the answer great, We'll all
see it.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
They're all full of crack.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Hey, well, thank you for the call.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
A lot of good comments there, they won't come on,
and I think there's now a rule where we aren't allowed.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I know this was an old school radio thing.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
You could just call people and try to get them
online line without get them on air, without saying who
you are, and you would get them talking and then
they find out, hey, we're talking to tons of people
all over the city or all over the state or
the nation.
Speaker 8 (29:10):
We have we have.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Extended offers to people across the political spectrum.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
And there are a couple a couple of things on this.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
One is we would never get even forget about that rule,
which I think you're you're right on that, but I'd
have to look into it. We wouldn't get around their staff.
They don't Chuck schu there's no there's no like bat
phone to Chuck Schumer. Well, at least we don't have it.
We don't have that line where we could call in.
So we're not going to get around his staff. And
I honestly think a lot of the time there's a
(29:38):
limited value with some of these Democrats. They're just gonna say,
you know, Chuck Schumer would say, it's about affordability, it's
about healthcare. Donald Trump is wrecking the Republic.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
You've already you've already heard.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
It all, and that's why I don't really you know,
we can pick and choose, like Fetterman would be interesting
because there's some areas where you could actually get to
a play of some agreement, a little disagreement. There's a
give and take with your run of the mill democrat
on a radio show, I mean a Democrat politician on
a radio show. They're just gonna say what they always say,
(30:11):
I mean, what they're saying on CNN. They're going to
stay right on the talking points. So I just don't
think it's very likely to be instructive or very good
radio personally. If that wasn't the case, I think we
would push more to get Democrats on. Plus Kay will
yell at them like you did Mike Pence and then
everyone will cry.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I would be I would be very happy to get
these guys on. They won't come on.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I think it's because they just know that they don't
have anything beyond talking points. And talking points in a
three minute television hit might work in a fifteen minute
radio it actually expected.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I can give you a preview of our of our
conversation with Chuck, our imaginary conversations with Chuck Schumer. I'd say,
Senator Schumer, so have premiums for the average American on
the individual market gone up on average one hundred percent
or more over the last ten years. And you know
who's response be Donald Trump doesn't care about the working
class and doesn't care about middle America, and we want
(31:07):
to make sure your premiums are cheap. And I could
repeat my question, I could say it again, but sure
is it true? You know what he would say, Donald
Trump doesn't care about the middle class. He's you know,
blah blah. This is why you don't really get very
far with these people. So especially Shoomer, he wouldn't even
be fun.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
He's actually really boring and not a great communicator, which
is not ideal. Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck Show,
wishing you and your family a very merry Christmas and
a happy New Year.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. We got kind
of a short one here to close out the show,
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I'm gonna put out a marker. I want to talk
about this tomorrow. The Open Table app, which I use
less now that I'm a dad, because you know, it's
a lot more time dealing with pulling Puraid p's off
the floor, you know, I mean, we're in that phase.
You don't get to go out to dinner as often
(32:22):
as you used to. New we have to get a
babysitter because also the dog and my baby have they
have a deal going where the dog now goes close
to the high chair and knows that about seventy five
percent of the Puraid food ends up on the ground,
and so she's the cleanup crew. So I can't I
can't stop this right because I'm like, well, it's kind
of efficient, but that's what's going on. But Open Table Clay,
(32:46):
the app that everyone uses for reservations, Open tables collecting
more than just where you like to eat on people,
And I want to get into this. I actually I'll
tell you this everybody. I think if you're a repeat
canceler on restaurants for reservation, I think that should be
taken into account. I think we should have something of
a dining out social credit score. I know some of
(33:07):
you're gonna get so ticked off, but I'm into it.
So we can talk about this tomorrow
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