January 1, 2026 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for listening. This is the best of with
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We have Tutor Dixon in the mix.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
The Tutor Dix podcast on the Clay and Buck Network
is fantastic and so many of you are listening and
it's growing every month, and thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Tutor. Let's start with this.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
What has the Michelle Obama book tour been all about?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Media tour that she's been doing?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Because the only soundbites that I or you know, video
clips that I've seen of this truly make her seem
less likable to a lot of people. What is going
on here?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Oh, I know she's on this tour where she is
really it's just like a shame America tour, or it
feels very much like a shame America tour because she
talks about how the being the first Lady is not
like this great privilege, and she just kind of rolls
her eyes when she's asked about being first lady and
being an example for women, and she trashes white people
(01:00):
that white people have been forcing her to straighten her hair,
which I thought, I don't remember anybody talking about her hair.
I guess once she went on vacation as she had
her hair braided and people said something about her hair.
And I think this is not unique to the First Lady.
Anybody who is in the public eye gets constant criticism.
(01:22):
She is not that special, but she wants us to
feel guilty for everything she has had to suffer in
the public eye.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well for somebody who is as generally, certainly by the
left wing media, celebrated and really the biggest corporate entities
and everything else, I mean, Michelle Obama is I don't know.
She's probably worked with Barack a one hundred million dollars plus.
I mean, they've done incredibly well financially, and the Obama
(01:49):
dynasty certainly lives on in the media. And yet she
seems unhappy with America, with the country that was made
her first leg lady. She lived in the White House
for eight years. She's incredibly rich. She hangs out with
like Richard Branson and the you know, the biggest names
and well just the biggest names in the world. And
(02:10):
yet she has a lot of complaints.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
She's incredibly rich, she can walk in anywhere, she is respected,
like you said she can. She can spend time with
the biggest Hollywood celebrities. It's not even like a Republican.
You know, Republicans, you're still shunned by half of the country.
Is a Democrat, you're welcomed everywhere. But she is so
mad about I don't know something, And I wish somebody
(02:35):
in these interviews when she has, you know, the other
rich woman sitting across from her, complaining about how bad
life is for women. I wish one of them would
say to her, was the was the Jews the juice?
Worth the squeeze? You know, like, was it worth it?
Being first lady? You obviously hated it. It was so
(02:56):
terrible for you. Was it worth it? Is your life
now worth it? Because I'd love to hear what she
has to say. And she's had that podcast where she
has negatively talked about Barak, which would seemingly be humiliating
me if you were him. She has been disparaging to
people that had been around them in the White House.
But there's this weird twist now to what she's doing,
(03:19):
because she's complaining about having to dress up and having
to have her hair and makeup done, and she talks
about that in this tour that she's on. But she's
very physically fit. She looks great. She does her hair
is done, and she seems to be continuing to get
her hair done, and she has a very she always
(03:40):
is dressed very nicely, and like I said, she looks
like she's fresh and ready to do something next. And
the question is like, what is her plan? And I
had Stacey Washington on the podcast. You've got to listen
to it because she had a totally different take than
what I would have thought when I was talking to her, Like,
I've never thought Michelle Obama was going to come back
(04:04):
and do something major in the public eye, but there's
been some gleamings of like what the future Michelle Obama
could be, and it's kind of terrifying. So you have
to listen to what she says because she makes a
good point and she sees things from a perspective that
I think I wouldn't have seen it. So I would
say everyone should listen to the Tutor Dixon podcast and
(04:24):
and check out what she had to say.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Okay, well, I wasn't. I don't want to get ahead
of or get in the way of the podcast listening.
But I'm certainly curious if you think that Michelle Obama
is actually she said she's not gonna run, and I've
said she's never gonna run, but I'll leave it out there.
I'll let people go listen to the podcast. But speaking
of people running, you faced off against Gretchen Whitmer in
(04:46):
the governor's race for Michigan. It's very very sad, very
sad that the people of Michigan were not able to
get that done the right way, and Gretchen Whitmer still
sits in office. So it's a bummer for Michigan and
for the rest of us too. Well, what can you
tell us? You understand the Whitmer machine quite well. Is
she running for president for sure in the next cycle,
(05:06):
which would start in basically a year.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
So it's really interesting that you ask, because just this
week the Detroit News came out with an article that
is pointing out that she has an entity that raised
seven I think seven million dollars somewhere around seven million dollars,
and that almost her entire campaign staff from her gubernatorial
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run has moved over to this entity. And the question
they're posing is is this the entity that is going
to run the presidential campaign? I have no doubt in
my mind. I have never doubted for a second that
Gretchen Whitmer is planning to run for president. It's not
even like a second spot for me. It's so obvious.
She has never held a single political position that she
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is not looking for the next political position that she
will be in. And she's done with Michigan. She's been
done with miss since before she ran for office the
second time, and since she has since she won in
twenty two, she has spent so much time overseas, which
is not to do anything good for Michigan. She uses
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the taxpayer money to go over there and say that
she's trying to bring business here. Because the state of
Michigan is dying. We have no business. Our education system
is forty fourth in the nation. We have the highest
energy costs doing She's brought no business from all these trips.
I mean, she's gone to Japan, she's gone to Spain,
she's gone to Germany. She's gone to multiple different countries
(06:38):
just in the last few years. And I promise you
it is simply to say I've got foreign policy chops.
I'm going to be able to be the leader of
the free world because I've already been all over Europe
and all over Asia, and I'm ready to do this.
She is using her position as governor to pretend she
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can be present. She hasn't done anything for the state
of Michigan.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Do you think put aside what I think you and
I would agree without even discussing it would be the
extremely unfortunate situation of Gretchen Whitmer actually being president. But
do you think that she will be a formidable primary
candidate among the field of Democrats should she run?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Right?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I mean, it's one thing to run. Some people run
because they want more speaking fees and book sales or whatever. Right,
do you think that she will, if she enters that field,
be a top three contender pretty reliably.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I think she is going to find out that once
she's in a real primary, because she's never really faced
anyone in the state of Michigan that was serious, and
once she's in a real primary against a Gavin Newsom,
who actually he I mean, I think the guy is
a total snake, but he's a very good politician and
slick talker. Gretchen and Whitmer is not. She is not
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very good off the cuff conversation. She struggles and interviews.
She's very similar to Connell in that sense. She's not
good on her feet, and she doesn't really have anything
to back up what she's saying because she hasn't accomplished anything.
So I think she's going to run. I don't think
she wins. I don't think that she gets very far
in the primary. I think she's kind of like a
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one percent support Kamala Harris because she just doesn't have
that factor when it comes to going to that level.
She could get through Michigan, she's not going to get
through the She's not going to fool the country.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
That's really interesting because I know people talk about her
as a I think I hear about her a lot
more really as a likely VP candidate once again than
actually a presidential nominee for the Democrats. But we'll see
how that plays out. And you faced off against hers,
you certainly know what she brings to the table. I
want to switch gears for a second. Earlier in the week,
(08:52):
I talked on the show about the change in attitudes
about young women twelfth graders, right, so basically high school graduates,
they're about you know, they're about to go out into
the world, maybe they're going to college, maybe they're going
to do something else. And sixty percent of them, the
latest pupil of women less than men. By the way,
less than young men want to get married. You're a
(09:14):
woman that we know, what do you think about what's
going on here with young women? Like, well, I know
you've got four kids, but how is it that young
women are getting this kind of messaging?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
You know?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I think, I really think that this is happening. I
was actually just talking to someone about this. If you
watch these the pop culture shows, if you're watching what
the messages in high school right now, the message is like,
you don't need anyone, you can do this all on
your own. There is this fantastic life out there for
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you alone. But I do think that that's there's a
culture shift where young men are not happy with the
idea of being alone. I think that there's the faith factor.
I think there's been a bit of a revival in
Christianity and there is a bit of a push for
that traditional lifestyle. So I think that there is a
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real chance that we see a baby boom in this
country that that's all going to switch. But I don't
know that it happens overnight. I think that we are
going to we have to be steadily holding on. I mean,
I see these battles online right now over different faiths
right and especially in Michigan. I see the battle over
(10:30):
faith all the time, and I think, instead of battling
over which faith is the best, focus on your own
and try to I mean, aren't we called to recruit
people to our own faith? And if if the church
reached out more, I think that that would be a
huge support to young women. And we're lacking there. But
I see that changing.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I certainly hope.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
So, Tutor Dixon, everybody go check out the Tutor Dix
Dickson podcast on the Clay end Book Network.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Listened to it this weekend. Tutor, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You're listening to the best of Clay Trapps and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
And we will certainly have our arguments and discussions here
on the show about various Thanksgiving paraphernalia, including I will
start a fight with Clay over this this stuff that
you guys do. What's ali what's it called again? Where
they can't make a pie but then they smash it
all up and the cobbler, Yeah, it's just a pie
(11:26):
that someone sat on that you don't want to admit
someone sat on, so you call it cobbler. I'm sorry.
I don't make the rules. This is just the way
that it is. Bruce Rally, what is the best thing
to eat at Thanksgiving? What is your number one? Your
top thing?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Really good stuffing, a creative stuffing.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Stuffing is is exciting. My thing is why isn't stuffing
something that is eaten a year round? Like? Why is
it only on Thanksgiving? I don't know. I don't get
this stuffing is delicious, that's a.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Really good question. I don't know. Does Ginger get any left?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Oh, my gosh, she's already. You know, she was supposed
to be. They told us she was gonna be twenty pounds,
like the breeder told her she'd be twenty. But she's
like thirty pounds now. So we've probably got to slow
ginger spice down a little bit. She's gotten very good
at She's so manipulative. If she hears she she just walked.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
In the room with me now too. She's so cute.
She heard me say her name, and so she came in, Hey,
how you doing.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
She she knows that if she comes in whenever there's
tupperware that's been opened, there's a chance that someone's going
to give her some food, and it's like we've trained her.
Without training her, all I have to do is open
the top of a tupperware lid, and wherever she is
in the house, somehow.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
She can always hear it. She will just she will.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Just appear our cast exact same way.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
They do that. Was this for the tins of food
or for tupperware for.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Just the tins of food? But they hear that and
they come running.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I have to give I have to give you credit
on something. Ali. Actually, because you mentioned this that there's backs.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
There's backlash, backlash against Taylor Swift because quote this is
from Fortune magazine why some fans feel jilted by the
star's trad wife almost Maga codd turn to want to
get married is now.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
A tra like that's a trad wife move. Oh, it
just to be married.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Worse, it gets even worse.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
They're actually accusing her of racism just because she said
I hope our kids look like him, like as a
term of endearment, like when you have children with the
person you love, you hope your kids look like them.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
How is that racist?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I don't understand how people thank you producer rally for this.
I don't understand how people are so crazy about things
like this, but this is increasingly something that we all,
we all have to contend with. I guess that there
is now a movement where what does that tell you
though about think about this, everybody, What does it tell
you about where the country is headed? Where believing that
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men and women are different and can't become each other
is right wing coded. Believing that a man and a
woman just getting married and and trying to build a
family together has some right wing flavor to it. That
seems to be what the Taylor Swift fans out there
are saying.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I wish you know she I don't know. I don't
share her politics, and I don't think she knows anything
about politics. That's fine.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I do wish that she would just for the betterment
for the betterment of American young womendom, who, as discussed
earlier in the week, I think are are in limited
numbers in talk radio audience world. But I wish, you know,
we had I wish we had all the sorority girls
listening to this show.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
But we have some, we don't have all of them.
But the truth is.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
This should be a moment for I'm not a big
T Swift fan like some of her some of her
tunes are kind of catchy, but this should be a
moment for her to just say, hey, girls, go find
a great guy, get married and start a family. Doesn't
have to be any kind of a giveaway to Trump
or the right wing or anything else. But encouraging young
women to do this.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
It is a better pathway for them.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Look, should people have the right to sit around and
play video games all day and you know, eat themselves
into oblivion. I mean, yeah, if they choose that and
that they're able to do it, but that doesn't mean
that we should encourage them to do it. And I
just think that encouraging people to achieve a family or
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to build a family and go in the direction of
what civilization has been built on for thousands of years
seems to be a pretty straightforward proposition for you.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
But then again, you know, we'll see.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I think I might watch because I might have Carrie
might have a girl's night this weekend, girls' night out
at dinner. And that's where I encourage that. By the way,
I might have a chance to watch the Netflix Frank
and Stein movie, because Carry doesn't do I don't even.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Think of that.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I mean it's technically horror, kind of more sci fi
to me than horror, like no one watches Frankenstn.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I was like, oh my gosh, I'm so scared.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
But I do like I do like Gillelmro Guillermo del
Toro as a director. So maybe I'll have a movie
review for you on on Monday off next week. Clay
will be back on Monday for sure, and that'll be
fun so we can we can make more jokes about
how he has a halo now because he met with
the Pope.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You're enjoying the Best of program with Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
A couple of things today.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I want to throw into the mix for our conversation,
for our rumination on and and I want to get
your thoughts on it. For sure, I thought this was
This was interesting. It plays into some broader narratives and
concerns that we have. One is this This Pew poll
Pew Research Center came out just a few days ago,
(16:57):
and it's making the rounds now that twelfth grade girls
are less likely than twelfth grade boys to say they
actually want to get married someday.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Now. More overall of twelfth graders.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
So these are roughly like eighteen year olds right summer seventeen,
summer nineteen. But twelfth graders, I think are basically eighteen
eighteen and nineteen. More of them say they would not
get married someday, but not a lot more. But the
thing that I found more interesting about the data here,
and this is also the kind of polling where I
think it. I don't think it's hard to do this
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pretty accurately. I think that you're asking for people's opinions.
They're easy enough to find, they're going to share these opinions,
so it's not some political incentive to mess with this data.
It's not like an election or something. So I think
that what's there's something that's concerning here and something that
I actually find encouraging. I'll start with the concerning side
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of this. Concerning side of it now is that sixty
one percent of girls say that they want to get
married someday. As if I'm reading this data correctly, boys
are more likely than girls to say they want to
get married some day seventy four percent versus sixty one percent.
Only sixty one percent of girls say they want to
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get married. What is going on here? Well, I think
we know what's going on unfortunately our society, and I think, look,
I've only I've only been around for a certain period
of time, as you know, But for my entire adult life,
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to be sure, there has been this I call it
like the Sex and the City Sex and the City effect,
the boss boss girl stuff. There has been a very
clear effort in our culture, a broad, broad effort in
our colture to tell young women to act like men,
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not to pretend they're men. That's also happening. That's a
separate issue, right, that's the trends thing. But to engage socially,
certainly professionally as men do, and to view dating and
hookup culture the way that men do, and to instead
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of having legal equality and illegal right to choose their
own destiny, they should view themselves more as equal as
in the same as men, and young women are not
the same as young men. You and I know this
is not a recipe for long term happiness for women.
This is not going to result in good life choices
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for most of the women. There are always exceptions. We're
talking about, roughly, you know, a big chunk of humanity here.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
We're talking about.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Women in the team to thirty year old age age
range here. But I'll tell you I know this just
from if we want to get anecdotal. I know so
many women who are my age now, they're in their
forties that I grew up with in New York and
they had nothing but options, and a lot of them
are not married and they're never going to have families now,
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And what do we What would I say to them
if they wanted to hear my opinion on this, which
I don't think they do.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
They're probably not listening to this show. But they were
completely misled by the culture.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
They were put down a pathway that was very likely
to cause misery.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
And they're even little small things along the way here.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I remember when I was when I was graduating from college,
everybody around me wanted to work at an investment bank
or a management consultant firm. Maybe that was an Now
it's not just an avers thing though. Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth, Amvers, Williams,
you know, Haverford, Stanford, Duke, all these plays.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Everybody wants to they want it.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
You want to come out of school, You'll want to
make one hundred and fifty grand your first year out
of school, which is what you can make at some
of these places as a twenty to twenty three year old.
And so that was what everybody wanted to do. But
the hours, especially in the investment banking side, were absolutely
miserable and brutal. Eighty ninety hour weeks expected. That was
if you weren't going to sign up for that. And
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I just remember thinking, I was like, how many of
the young women that I knew in that class, really,
why do they want to do that? And this some
way say this is going to sound sexist. It's not sexist.
It's just an objective view of reality. Men and women
have different biological timelines that they're operating under.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
That is just a fact.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Young women putting themselves in the cubicle farm from age
twenty two to you know, thirty, to try to make
VP at Goldman Sachs and grinding away indoors and do
all this stuff. Should they be able to do this
if they choose, absolutely, is this going to make most
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of them happy?
Speaker 7 (22:02):
Well?
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I can tell you none of the ones that I
knew lasted. None of them did it a couple of years,
maybe stayed, stayed in finance, and they all stopped because
guys work overwhelmingly, Why do guys work in finance, Why
do guys do any job where they can try to
make a comfortable living, because they want to be an
attractive partner, a mate, husband for a woman so they
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can provide for a family. And you know, this is
why these guys put themselves through this. And you know
the data on the other side of this is also
very clear. They've run these experiments and you don't even
have to do you just think through the experiment. Guy
sees a beautiful woman, a beautiful woman. She's wearing a
power suit. She's a boss babe. Guy sees the same
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woman in a different context, she's wearing a McDonald's uniform.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
The percentage of.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Guys who care about this is very small, very small,
just a fact, just the truth. They've done these they've
done these experiments before, you know, and we have led
so many of these women down this young women down
this pathway. And it's my generation that I think it is.
I'm a graybeard millennial. I do have grand my beard.
(23:10):
I'm a graybeard millennial. My generation was just DEI and
the boss babe, sex and the city stuff just just decimated.
Certainly the people who grew up in the big cities
and were around this really inundated with this culture, and
and it's still happening. These young women, you know, don't
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want to get married. I mean, you can sit and
watch all these interviews that there's some very actually good
podcasters who do these long form interviews with CEOs who
were wildly successful. And one thing I've never heard and
these different some of these hosts the diary of a
CEO guy.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
There's others.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
They're always told the same thing by these guys who
have more money than they know what to do with
more success they know what to do with. If they
had to regret, it was I wish I spent more
time with my family. And if they're asked what they're
most proud of and they have a family, you know what,
they say, they're family. I mean, this is all very
very much there first. So I really think that there
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need to be more voices speaking to young young women.
Are not going to some of you, by the way,
very glad you're listening to the show. But I don't
know if a forty three year old guy telling women
about their life choices is going to resonate with you know,
twenty somethings who love Taylor Swift like I understand that
may not be my prime demographic for my message, but
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we need more women who can speak effectively to them.
And it's for their own good because they're being led
down a pathway that is not turning out well. And
the fact that you're getting close to almost half of
women don't want to get married, young women, eighteen year
old women, they don't want to get married. Now you
could say, oh, maybe they still want to have kids,
and I would say to that, you're gonna have kids,
(24:55):
you should get married, okay, you you should have a
stable family formation. Shouldn't do the shouldn't do this, the
baby mama thing, or the shouldn't do this. Yeah, producer
ally tells me some people are getting mad at Taylor
Swift for getting married. No, no, no, this is this
is very bad message they have. Okay, on the good,
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so that's on the bad side of things. Women, young
women are being absolutely brainwashed, misled.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
It's terrible. I see it everywhere.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
And the results are just going to be a lot
of a lot of misery for them later in life,
or a lot of regret.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I should say.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
You know, people can find purpose and a lot of things.
And I'm not saying you can't find purpose without a family,
and certainly not saying you can't find purpose without having children,
and a lot of people have difficulty having children.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
But we're talking.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
It's like policy, what is going to bring the greatest
happiness results for the greatest number of people getting married,
having a family, pursuing a life where you are focused
day to day outside of your own needs and wants.
It's so it's so important to have things that you
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care about. Relationship with God, your wife, your husband, your kids,
your immediate family, you know, your your family member that
you're caretaker or taking care of. You have to care
a cause that's actually worthy, not like climate change, but
an actually worthy cost. You have to care about things
beyond yourself, because otherwise you'll just go through the scale
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of hedonic adaptation. Things get better, you get used to it, materially,
things get better, you don't care anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
I was recently out with a guy is a friend
of a friend, very nice guy, and I'm not putting
him down, but I just thought it was kind of funny.
There's a car called a Pegani, which I think is
costs like four million dollars six minutes a car. It
costs millions of dollars. I don't know producer ally, google
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what a pegani costs. It's absurd. This has eight of them.
And let me tell you something. The ninth pegani, he's
probably gonna lose it, So it doesn't even care. Right,
you reach this point where that stuff doesn't matter, You
have to find meaning in other things, meaning things outside.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Of your immediate needs and wants.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
On the upside though, of this same pupil, the fact
that young men and I love it's a huge problem
for the Democrat Party. It's a huge problem for the
woke left. Young men have gotten the message. Young men
realize toxic masculinity is a toxic ideology of nonsense. They
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have realized that that the suppression of traits and within masculinity, bravery, courage,
aggression concentrated in the right ways. You know that the
suppression of these things. Wanting to be the leader of
a family, wanting to be the leader of a of
a of a community, well and what what everywhere that is,
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want to be a leader in the workplace, That the suppression.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Of that is just absolute nonsense. And really destructive.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
And young men are realizing this is why they are
turning away from the Democrat Party. That's why young men
are increasingly going back to for those those who are
Christian going back to church. They want more. They want
to lead, They want to be spiritual leaders. They want
to be people that they want to be someone that
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their wife can count on, yes, to defend them, to
protect them physically, but also emotionally and spiritually, to be
there for that. We want to have our roles. We
want to pursue the best of what it is to
be a man. Young men want to get married in
greater numbers. According to Pew, they want to be masculine.
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Not you know, just oh, I'm shooting up a lot
of steroids and you know I look like he man
or whatever. No, it's about fulfilling their masculine imperative, their
masculine destiny to be men, that they become good men.
They get it in greater numbers. And it's just because
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of the failure of what the left is offering, the
undermining and the hypocrisy and the smugness of our culture
of leftism and liberalism and all this other nonsense. That's
just constantly degrading and pulling men down. They see it,
and they've had enough, and they know there's something better.
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And I just truly hope that the young women of
America are on the precipice of a similar renaissance, a
similar rebirth of understanding. But I'm not sure. I worry
women have been greatly misled and the damage is just beginning,
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I think to set in for many of them.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Welcome in.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Let's take a call here from Amy, just north of
me and Fort Lauderdale.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Lovely Fort Lauderdale. What's going on? Amy?
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Hey back, I'm gonna tell you were right on about
the young girls nowadays being misled. I've been in nurse
forty years. I have four children, seven grandchildren, all young,
and I've never met an elderly person who said, I'm
so glad I didn't have kids. Best decision I ever made,
so glad. And I talked to the young girls I
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work with, who are all hitting their thirties, saying, nobody
out there, I guess I'm never going to have kids,
and they're desperate to meet young people. A lot of them.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Well, look, I obviously you agree with me. I agree
with you, Amy, and congrats on this the beautiful and
expansive family you have created.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
A couple of thoughts I have on this.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
One is, man, I could do whole shows just on dating,
because I was in the dating world for a long
time and I have all these scars to prove it
in New York City and Washington, d C. No less
as a right wing guy, so you can imagine what
that was like. But I think that women in the
social media era are often trying to pick guys base
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more upon look. Men are about looks generally more superficial
than women.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
That is like going to shock anybody. Men really are
superficial about looks.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Women generally, in the past at least have been first
and foremost interested in a man's ability to be a husband, father,
and provider. I think that's changed a bit. I think
that women now more than ever, are what is he
going to? You're talking about young women, so don't please,
if you're sixty, don't say no, buck, That's not what
I think.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I know. I'm talking about the twenty year olds out there.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I think that they want to be able to say
that my boyfriend is six foot three and they want to, like,
you know, have him towering above her on Instagram. It's like, well,
is he a jerk? Is he a great guy? Do
people around him really respect him? Or does he just Paul?
I think that female superficiality in the dating world has
been increased by the social media erawein you could yell
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at me.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I think that's true.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
One other interesting thing, because I mentioned about the women
in different outfits across all demographics, across all socioeconomic strata.
The three most preferred professions when guys are asked if
you get to pick your future wife could have what
job when you met her? Do you think any of
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them say CEO? Didn't getting them say, you know, nuclear scientists, although.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
That would be cool.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I think it's nurse, doctor, teacher, not a surprise to anybody, right.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
So that's what we just had a nurse calling in.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
We'll talk about Maybe I'll throw some more social truth
bombshells out there tomorrow. I feel like all of you
know everything I'm saying is true. It's just all true.
And the angry libs who have been led astray by it,
they're the ones who get mad about it but you
all know everything I say is true.
Thank you for listening. This is the best of with
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We have Tutor Dixon in the mix.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
The Tutor Dix podcast on the Clay and Buck Network
is fantastic and so many of you are listening and
it's growing every month, and thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Tutor. Let's start with this.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
What has the Michelle Obama book tour been all about?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Media tour that she's been doing?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Because the only soundbites that I or you know, video
clips that I've seen of this truly make her seem
less likable to a lot of people. What is going
on here?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Oh, I know she's on this tour where she is
really it's just like a shame America tour, or it
feels very much like a shame America tour because she
talks about how the being the first Lady is not
like this great privilege, and she just kind of rolls
her eyes when she's asked about being first lady and
being an example for women, and she trashes white people
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that white people have been forcing her to straighten her hair,
which I thought, I don't remember anybody talking about her hair.
I guess once she went on vacation as she had
her hair braided and people said something about her hair.
And I think this is not unique to the First Lady.
Anybody who is in the public eye gets constant criticism.
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She is not that special, but she wants us to
feel guilty for everything she has had to suffer in
the public eye.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well for somebody who is as generally, certainly by the
left wing media, celebrated and really the biggest corporate entities
and everything else, I mean, Michelle Obama is I don't know.
She's probably worked with Barack a one hundred million dollars plus.
I mean, they've done incredibly well financially, and the Obama
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dynasty certainly lives on in the media. And yet she
seems unhappy with America, with the country that was made
her first leg lady. She lived in the White House
for eight years. She's incredibly rich. She hangs out with
like Richard Branson and the you know, the biggest names
and well just the biggest names in the world. And
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yet she has a lot of complaints.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
She's incredibly rich, she can walk in anywhere, she is respected,
like you said she can. She can spend time with
the biggest Hollywood celebrities. It's not even like a Republican.
You know, Republicans, you're still shunned by half of the country.
Is a Democrat, you're welcomed everywhere. But she is so
mad about I don't know something, And I wish somebody
(02:35):
in these interviews when she has, you know, the other
rich woman sitting across from her, complaining about how bad
life is for women. I wish one of them would
say to her, was the was the Jews the juice?
Worth the squeeze? You know, like, was it worth it?
Being first lady? You obviously hated it. It was so
(02:56):
terrible for you. Was it worth it? Is your life
now worth it? Because I'd love to hear what she
has to say. And she's had that podcast where she
has negatively talked about Barak, which would seemingly be humiliating
me if you were him. She has been disparaging to
people that had been around them in the White House.
But there's this weird twist now to what she's doing,
(03:19):
because she's complaining about having to dress up and having
to have her hair and makeup done, and she talks
about that in this tour that she's on. But she's
very physically fit. She looks great. She does her hair
is done, and she seems to be continuing to get
her hair done, and she has a very she always
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is dressed very nicely, and like I said, she looks
like she's fresh and ready to do something next. And
the question is like, what is her plan? And I
had Stacey Washington on the podcast. You've got to listen
to it because she had a totally different take than
what I would have thought when I was talking to her, Like,
I've never thought Michelle Obama was going to come back
(04:04):
and do something major in the public eye, but there's
been some gleamings of like what the future Michelle Obama
could be, and it's kind of terrifying. So you have
to listen to what she says because she makes a
good point and she sees things from a perspective that
I think I wouldn't have seen it. So I would
say everyone should listen to the Tutor Dixon podcast and
(04:24):
and check out what she had to say.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Okay, well, I wasn't. I don't want to get ahead
of or get in the way of the podcast listening.
But I'm certainly curious if you think that Michelle Obama
is actually she said she's not gonna run, and I've
said she's never gonna run, but I'll leave it out there.
I'll let people go listen to the podcast. But speaking
of people running, you faced off against Gretchen Whitmer in
(04:46):
the governor's race for Michigan. It's very very sad, very
sad that the people of Michigan were not able to
get that done the right way, and Gretchen Whitmer still
sits in office. So it's a bummer for Michigan and
for the rest of us too. Well, what can you
tell us? You understand the Whitmer machine quite well. Is
she running for president for sure in the next cycle,
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which would start in basically a year.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
So it's really interesting that you ask, because just this
week the Detroit News came out with an article that
is pointing out that she has an entity that raised
seven I think seven million dollars somewhere around seven million dollars,
and that almost her entire campaign staff from her gubernatorial
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run has moved over to this entity. And the question
they're posing is is this the entity that is going
to run the presidential campaign? I have no doubt in
my mind. I have never doubted for a second that
Gretchen Whitmer is planning to run for president. It's not
even like a second spot for me. It's so obvious.
She has never held a single political position that she
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is not looking for the next political position that she
will be in. And she's done with Michigan. She's been
done with miss since before she ran for office the
second time, and since she has since she won in
twenty two, she has spent so much time overseas, which
is not to do anything good for Michigan. She uses
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the taxpayer money to go over there and say that
she's trying to bring business here. Because the state of
Michigan is dying. We have no business. Our education system
is forty fourth in the nation. We have the highest
energy costs doing She's brought no business from all these trips.
I mean, she's gone to Japan, she's gone to Spain,
she's gone to Germany. She's gone to multiple different countries
(06:38):
just in the last few years. And I promise you
it is simply to say I've got foreign policy chops.
I'm going to be able to be the leader of
the free world because I've already been all over Europe
and all over Asia, and I'm ready to do this.
She is using her position as governor to pretend she
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can be present. She hasn't done anything for the state
of Michigan.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Do you think put aside what I think you and
I would agree without even discussing it would be the
extremely unfortunate situation of Gretchen Whitmer actually being president. But
do you think that she will be a formidable primary
candidate among the field of Democrats should she run?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Right?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I mean, it's one thing to run. Some people run
because they want more speaking fees and book sales or whatever. Right,
do you think that she will, if she enters that field,
be a top three contender pretty reliably.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I think she is going to find out that once
she's in a real primary, because she's never really faced
anyone in the state of Michigan that was serious, and
once she's in a real primary against a Gavin Newsom,
who actually he I mean, I think the guy is
a total snake, but he's a very good politician and
slick talker. Gretchen and Whitmer is not. She is not
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very good off the cuff conversation. She struggles and interviews.
She's very similar to Connell in that sense. She's not
good on her feet, and she doesn't really have anything
to back up what she's saying because she hasn't accomplished anything.
So I think she's going to run. I don't think
she wins. I don't think that she gets very far
in the primary. I think she's kind of like a
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one percent support Kamala Harris because she just doesn't have
that factor when it comes to going to that level.
She could get through Michigan, she's not going to get
through the She's not going to fool the country.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
That's really interesting because I know people talk about her
as a I think I hear about her a lot
more really as a likely VP candidate once again than
actually a presidential nominee for the Democrats. But we'll see
how that plays out. And you faced off against hers,
you certainly know what she brings to the table. I
want to switch gears for a second. Earlier in the week,
(08:52):
I talked on the show about the change in attitudes
about young women twelfth graders, right, so basically high school graduates,
they're about you know, they're about to go out into
the world, maybe they're going to college, maybe they're going
to do something else. And sixty percent of them, the
latest pupil of women less than men. By the way,
less than young men want to get married. You're a
(09:14):
woman that we know, what do you think about what's
going on here with young women? Like, well, I know
you've got four kids, but how is it that young
women are getting this kind of messaging?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
You know?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I think, I really think that this is happening. I
was actually just talking to someone about this. If you
watch these the pop culture shows, if you're watching what
the messages in high school right now, the message is like,
you don't need anyone, you can do this all on
your own. There is this fantastic life out there for
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you alone. But I do think that that's there's a
culture shift where young men are not happy with the
idea of being alone. I think that there's the faith factor.
I think there's been a bit of a revival in
Christianity and there is a bit of a push for
that traditional lifestyle. So I think that there is a
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real chance that we see a baby boom in this
country that that's all going to switch. But I don't
know that it happens overnight. I think that we are
going to we have to be steadily holding on. I mean,
I see these battles online right now over different faiths
right and especially in Michigan. I see the battle over
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faith all the time, and I think, instead of battling
over which faith is the best, focus on your own
and try to I mean, aren't we called to recruit
people to our own faith? And if if the church
reached out more, I think that that would be a
huge support to young women. And we're lacking there. But
I see that changing.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I certainly hope.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
So, Tutor Dixon, everybody go check out the Tutor Dix
Dickson podcast on the Clay end Book Network.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Listened to it this weekend. Tutor, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You're listening to the best of Clay Trapps and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
And we will certainly have our arguments and discussions here
on the show about various Thanksgiving paraphernalia, including I will
start a fight with Clay over this this stuff that
you guys do. What's ali what's it called again? Where
they can't make a pie but then they smash it
all up and the cobbler, Yeah, it's just a pie
(11:26):
that someone sat on that you don't want to admit
someone sat on, so you call it cobbler. I'm sorry.
I don't make the rules. This is just the way
that it is. Bruce Rally, what is the best thing
to eat at Thanksgiving? What is your number one? Your
top thing?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Really good stuffing, a creative stuffing.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Stuffing is is exciting. My thing is why isn't stuffing
something that is eaten a year round? Like? Why is
it only on Thanksgiving? I don't know. I don't get
this stuffing is delicious, that's a.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Really good question. I don't know. Does Ginger get any left?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Oh, my gosh, she's already. You know, she was supposed
to be. They told us she was gonna be twenty pounds,
like the breeder told her she'd be twenty. But she's
like thirty pounds now. So we've probably got to slow
ginger spice down a little bit. She's gotten very good
at She's so manipulative. If she hears she she just walked.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
In the room with me now too. She's so cute.
She heard me say her name, and so she came in, Hey,
how you doing.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
She she knows that if she comes in whenever there's
tupperware that's been opened, there's a chance that someone's going
to give her some food, and it's like we've trained her.
Without training her, all I have to do is open
the top of a tupperware lid, and wherever she is
in the house, somehow.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
She can always hear it. She will just she will.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Just appear our cast exact same way.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
They do that. Was this for the tins of food
or for tupperware for.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Just the tins of food? But they hear that and
they come running.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I have to give I have to give you credit
on something. Ali. Actually, because you mentioned this that there's backs.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
There's backlash, backlash against Taylor Swift because quote this is
from Fortune magazine why some fans feel jilted by the
star's trad wife almost Maga codd turn to want to
get married is now.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
A tra like that's a trad wife move. Oh, it
just to be married.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Worse, it gets even worse.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
They're actually accusing her of racism just because she said
I hope our kids look like him, like as a
term of endearment, like when you have children with the
person you love, you hope your kids look like them.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
How is that racist?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I don't understand how people thank you producer rally for this.
I don't understand how people are so crazy about things
like this, but this is increasingly something that we all,
we all have to contend with. I guess that there
is now a movement where what does that tell you
though about think about this, everybody, What does it tell
you about where the country is headed? Where believing that
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men and women are different and can't become each other
is right wing coded. Believing that a man and a
woman just getting married and and trying to build a
family together has some right wing flavor to it. That
seems to be what the Taylor Swift fans out there
are saying.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I wish you know she I don't know. I don't
share her politics, and I don't think she knows anything
about politics. That's fine.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I do wish that she would just for the betterment
for the betterment of American young womendom, who, as discussed
earlier in the week, I think are are in limited
numbers in talk radio audience world. But I wish, you know,
we had I wish we had all the sorority girls
listening to this show.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
But we have some, we don't have all of them.
But the truth is.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
This should be a moment for I'm not a big
T Swift fan like some of her some of her
tunes are kind of catchy, but this should be a
moment for her to just say, hey, girls, go find
a great guy, get married and start a family. Doesn't
have to be any kind of a giveaway to Trump
or the right wing or anything else. But encouraging young
women to do this.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
It is a better pathway for them.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Look, should people have the right to sit around and
play video games all day and you know, eat themselves
into oblivion. I mean, yeah, if they choose that and
that they're able to do it, but that doesn't mean
that we should encourage them to do it. And I
just think that encouraging people to achieve a family or
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to build a family and go in the direction of
what civilization has been built on for thousands of years
seems to be a pretty straightforward proposition for you.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
But then again, you know, we'll see.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I think I might watch because I might have Carrie
might have a girl's night this weekend, girls' night out
at dinner. And that's where I encourage that. By the way,
I might have a chance to watch the Netflix Frank
and Stein movie, because Carry doesn't do I don't even.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Think of that.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I mean it's technically horror, kind of more sci fi
to me than horror, like no one watches Frankenstn.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I was like, oh my gosh, I'm so scared.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
But I do like I do like Gillelmro Guillermo del
Toro as a director. So maybe I'll have a movie
review for you on on Monday off next week. Clay
will be back on Monday for sure, and that'll be
fun so we can we can make more jokes about
how he has a halo now because he met with
the Pope.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You're enjoying the Best of program with Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
A couple of things today.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I want to throw into the mix for our conversation,
for our rumination on and and I want to get
your thoughts on it. For sure, I thought this was
This was interesting. It plays into some broader narratives and
concerns that we have. One is this This Pew poll
Pew Research Center came out just a few days ago,
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and it's making the rounds now that twelfth grade girls
are less likely than twelfth grade boys to say they
actually want to get married someday.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Now. More overall of twelfth graders.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
So these are roughly like eighteen year olds right summer seventeen,
summer nineteen. But twelfth graders, I think are basically eighteen
eighteen and nineteen. More of them say they would not
get married someday, but not a lot more. But the
thing that I found more interesting about the data here,
and this is also the kind of polling where I
think it. I don't think it's hard to do this
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pretty accurately. I think that you're asking for people's opinions.
They're easy enough to find, they're going to share these opinions,
so it's not some political incentive to mess with this data.
It's not like an election or something. So I think
that what's there's something that's concerning here and something that
I actually find encouraging. I'll start with the concerning side
(17:59):
of this. Concerning side of it now is that sixty
one percent of girls say that they want to get
married someday. As if I'm reading this data correctly, boys
are more likely than girls to say they want to
get married some day seventy four percent versus sixty one percent.
Only sixty one percent of girls say they want to
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get married. What is going on here? Well, I think
we know what's going on unfortunately our society, and I think, look,
I've only I've only been around for a certain period
of time, as you know, But for my entire adult life,
(18:42):
to be sure, there has been this I call it
like the Sex and the City Sex and the City effect,
the boss boss girl stuff. There has been a very
clear effort in our culture, a broad, broad effort in
our colture to tell young women to act like men,
(19:05):
not to pretend they're men. That's also happening. That's a
separate issue, right, that's the trends thing. But to engage socially,
certainly professionally as men do, and to view dating and
hookup culture the way that men do, and to instead
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of having legal equality and illegal right to choose their
own destiny, they should view themselves more as equal as
in the same as men, and young women are not
the same as young men. You and I know this
is not a recipe for long term happiness for women.
This is not going to result in good life choices
(19:50):
for most of the women. There are always exceptions. We're
talking about, roughly, you know, a big chunk of humanity here.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
We're talking about.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Women in the team to thirty year old age age
range here. But I'll tell you I know this just
from if we want to get anecdotal. I know so
many women who are my age now, they're in their
forties that I grew up with in New York and
they had nothing but options, and a lot of them
are not married and they're never going to have families now,
(20:21):
And what do we What would I say to them
if they wanted to hear my opinion on this, which
I don't think they do.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
They're probably not listening to this show. But they were
completely misled by the culture.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
They were put down a pathway that was very likely
to cause misery.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
And they're even little small things along the way here.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I remember when I was when I was graduating from college,
everybody around me wanted to work at an investment bank
or a management consultant firm. Maybe that was an Now
it's not just an avers thing though. Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth, Amvers, Williams,
you know, Haverford, Stanford, Duke, all these plays.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Everybody wants to they want it.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
You want to come out of school, You'll want to
make one hundred and fifty grand your first year out
of school, which is what you can make at some
of these places as a twenty to twenty three year old.
And so that was what everybody wanted to do. But
the hours, especially in the investment banking side, were absolutely
miserable and brutal. Eighty ninety hour weeks expected. That was
if you weren't going to sign up for that. And
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I just remember thinking, I was like, how many of
the young women that I knew in that class, really,
why do they want to do that? And this some
way say this is going to sound sexist. It's not sexist.
It's just an objective view of reality. Men and women
have different biological timelines that they're operating under.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
That is just a fact.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Young women putting themselves in the cubicle farm from age
twenty two to you know, thirty, to try to make
VP at Goldman Sachs and grinding away indoors and do
all this stuff. Should they be able to do this
if they choose, absolutely, is this going to make most
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of them happy?
Speaker 7 (22:02):
Well?
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I can tell you none of the ones that I
knew lasted. None of them did it a couple of years,
maybe stayed, stayed in finance, and they all stopped because
guys work overwhelmingly, Why do guys work in finance, Why
do guys do any job where they can try to
make a comfortable living, because they want to be an
attractive partner, a mate, husband for a woman so they
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can provide for a family. And you know, this is
why these guys put themselves through this. And you know
the data on the other side of this is also
very clear. They've run these experiments and you don't even
have to do you just think through the experiment. Guy
sees a beautiful woman, a beautiful woman. She's wearing a
power suit. She's a boss babe. Guy sees the same
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woman in a different context, she's wearing a McDonald's uniform.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
The percentage of.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Guys who care about this is very small, very small,
just a fact, just the truth. They've done these they've
done these experiments before, you know, and we have led
so many of these women down this young women down
this pathway. And it's my generation that I think it is.
I'm a graybeard millennial. I do have grand my beard.
(23:10):
I'm a graybeard millennial. My generation was just DEI and
the boss babe, sex and the city stuff just just decimated.
Certainly the people who grew up in the big cities
and were around this really inundated with this culture, and
and it's still happening. These young women, you know, don't
(23:31):
want to get married. I mean, you can sit and
watch all these interviews that there's some very actually good
podcasters who do these long form interviews with CEOs who
were wildly successful. And one thing I've never heard and
these different some of these hosts the diary of a
CEO guy.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
There's others.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
They're always told the same thing by these guys who
have more money than they know what to do with
more success they know what to do with. If they
had to regret, it was I wish I spent more
time with my family. And if they're asked what they're
most proud of and they have a family, you know what,
they say, they're family. I mean, this is all very
very much there first. So I really think that there
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need to be more voices speaking to young young women.
Are not going to some of you, by the way,
very glad you're listening to the show. But I don't
know if a forty three year old guy telling women
about their life choices is going to resonate with you know,
twenty somethings who love Taylor Swift like I understand that
may not be my prime demographic for my message, but
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we need more women who can speak effectively to them.
And it's for their own good because they're being led
down a pathway that is not turning out well. And
the fact that you're getting close to almost half of
women don't want to get married, young women, eighteen year
old women, they don't want to get married. Now you
could say, oh, maybe they still want to have kids,
and I would say to that, you're gonna have kids,
(24:55):
you should get married, okay, you you should have a
stable family formation. Shouldn't do the shouldn't do this, the
baby mama thing, or the shouldn't do this. Yeah, producer
ally tells me some people are getting mad at Taylor
Swift for getting married. No, no, no, this is this
is very bad message they have. Okay, on the good,
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so that's on the bad side of things. Women, young
women are being absolutely brainwashed, misled.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
It's terrible. I see it everywhere.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
And the results are just going to be a lot
of a lot of misery for them later in life,
or a lot of regret.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I should say.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
You know, people can find purpose and a lot of things.
And I'm not saying you can't find purpose without a family,
and certainly not saying you can't find purpose without having children,
and a lot of people have difficulty having children.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
But we're talking.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
It's like policy, what is going to bring the greatest
happiness results for the greatest number of people getting married,
having a family, pursuing a life where you are focused
day to day outside of your own needs and wants.
It's so it's so important to have things that you
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care about. Relationship with God, your wife, your husband, your kids,
your immediate family, you know, your your family member that
you're caretaker or taking care of. You have to care
a cause that's actually worthy, not like climate change, but
an actually worthy cost. You have to care about things
beyond yourself, because otherwise you'll just go through the scale
(26:25):
of hedonic adaptation. Things get better, you get used to it, materially,
things get better, you don't care anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
I was recently out with a guy is a friend
of a friend, very nice guy, and I'm not putting
him down, but I just thought it was kind of funny.
There's a car called a Pegani, which I think is
costs like four million dollars six minutes a car. It
costs millions of dollars. I don't know producer ally, google
(26:56):
what a pegani costs. It's absurd. This has eight of them.
And let me tell you something. The ninth pegani, he's
probably gonna lose it, So it doesn't even care. Right,
you reach this point where that stuff doesn't matter, You
have to find meaning in other things, meaning things outside.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Of your immediate needs and wants.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
On the upside though, of this same pupil, the fact
that young men and I love it's a huge problem
for the Democrat Party. It's a huge problem for the
woke left. Young men have gotten the message. Young men
realize toxic masculinity is a toxic ideology of nonsense. They
(27:37):
have realized that that the suppression of traits and within masculinity, bravery, courage,
aggression concentrated in the right ways. You know that the
suppression of these things. Wanting to be the leader of
a family, wanting to be the leader of a of
a of a community, well and what what everywhere that is,
(28:01):
want to be a leader in the workplace, That the suppression.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Of that is just absolute nonsense. And really destructive.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
And young men are realizing this is why they are
turning away from the Democrat Party. That's why young men
are increasingly going back to for those those who are
Christian going back to church. They want more. They want
to lead, They want to be spiritual leaders. They want
to be people that they want to be someone that
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their wife can count on, yes, to defend them, to
protect them physically, but also emotionally and spiritually, to be
there for that. We want to have our roles. We
want to pursue the best of what it is to
be a man. Young men want to get married in
greater numbers. According to Pew, they want to be masculine.
(28:56):
Not you know, just oh, I'm shooting up a lot
of steroids and you know I look like he man
or whatever. No, it's about fulfilling their masculine imperative, their
masculine destiny to be men, that they become good men.
They get it in greater numbers. And it's just because
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of the failure of what the left is offering, the
undermining and the hypocrisy and the smugness of our culture
of leftism and liberalism and all this other nonsense. That's
just constantly degrading and pulling men down. They see it,
and they've had enough, and they know there's something better.
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And I just truly hope that the young women of
America are on the precipice of a similar renaissance, a
similar rebirth of understanding. But I'm not sure. I worry
women have been greatly misled and the damage is just beginning,
(30:00):
I think to set in for many of them.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Welcome in.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Let's take a call here from Amy, just north of
me and Fort Lauderdale.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Lovely Fort Lauderdale. What's going on? Amy?
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Hey back, I'm gonna tell you were right on about
the young girls nowadays being misled. I've been in nurse
forty years. I have four children, seven grandchildren, all young,
and I've never met an elderly person who said, I'm
so glad I didn't have kids. Best decision I ever made,
so glad. And I talked to the young girls I
(30:39):
work with, who are all hitting their thirties, saying, nobody
out there, I guess I'm never going to have kids,
and they're desperate to meet young people. A lot of them.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Well, look, I obviously you agree with me. I agree
with you, Amy, and congrats on this the beautiful and
expansive family you have created.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
A couple of thoughts I have on this.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
One is, man, I could do whole shows just on dating,
because I was in the dating world for a long
time and I have all these scars to prove it
in New York City and Washington, d C. No less
as a right wing guy, so you can imagine what
that was like. But I think that women in the
social media era are often trying to pick guys base
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more upon look. Men are about looks generally more superficial
than women.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
That is like going to shock anybody. Men really are
superficial about looks.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Women generally, in the past at least have been first
and foremost interested in a man's ability to be a husband, father,
and provider. I think that's changed a bit. I think
that women now more than ever, are what is he
going to? You're talking about young women, so don't please,
if you're sixty, don't say no, buck, That's not what
I think.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I know. I'm talking about the twenty year olds out there.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I think that they want to be able to say
that my boyfriend is six foot three and they want to, like,
you know, have him towering above her on Instagram. It's like, well,
is he a jerk? Is he a great guy? Do
people around him really respect him? Or does he just Paul?
I think that female superficiality in the dating world has
been increased by the social media erawein you could yell
(32:14):
at me.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I think that's true.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
One other interesting thing, because I mentioned about the women
in different outfits across all demographics, across all socioeconomic strata.
The three most preferred professions when guys are asked if
you get to pick your future wife could have what
job when you met her? Do you think any of
(32:37):
them say CEO? Didn't getting them say, you know, nuclear scientists, although.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
That would be cool.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I think it's nurse, doctor, teacher, not a surprise to anybody, right.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
So that's what we just had a nurse calling in.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
We'll talk about Maybe I'll throw some more social truth
bombshells out there tomorrow. I feel like all of you
know everything I'm saying is true. It's just all true.
And the angry libs who have been led astray by it,
they're the ones who get mad about it but you
all know everything I say is true.
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