January 1, 2026 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for listening. This is the best of with Klay,
Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm gonna take some flak here, Buck not about.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
This, oh man. I was like, you're getting in the
way of the steamroller, buddy.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Oh I got step it in front of not step
it in front of the steamroller and getting flattened. Maybe
even broader though. I think Christmas music's overplayed. I was
out to dinner the other day Sunday night, went out
to dinner and I could hear throughout the whole meal
they were playing Christmas music. Now look, I used to
(00:32):
work in retail back in the day. American Eagle Outfitters
may have heard of it. Abercrombie and Fitch, and I
know because we would have our holiday medley and anybody
who's ever worked in retail. It's the same track over
and over and over again. But there is evidence to
support that people buy more products when you play Christmas music.
(00:54):
So I get it in a retail setting. I don't
know that I need to hear it in elevators everywhere.
I don't know that I need to hear it while
I'm eating dinner. I would be very very comfortable with
and I used to make jokes about this in sports
talk radio, we would stop playing We would only play
Christmas music starting in December. I know we play a
lot of Christmas music on this do you know we
(01:17):
get beat in ratings? Now, you and me and everybody
out there who does talk radio, every community in America,
Christmas music goes to number one, we just get trounced,
and all they do is play jingle bells over and
over and over again. So I feel like we're inundated, frankly,
with too much holiday music. Does that make me sound
like the Grinch? Or do you think most people agree
(01:38):
with me that it's impossible to escape and we don't
need as much.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
No, I think you're gonna get lit up over this one, buddy.
I'm just gonna step away from the blast radius. I
love Santa Claus and all the Christmas cheer and music
and everything else.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Just telling you, ho ho ho, I'm the Grinch. I'll
own it. There's too much Christmas music and all facets
of life. I don't need to hear it everyway. I'll
tell you this.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I believe I've referred to it before as going Grinch,
or maybe other people have coined that and I just
picked it up. I don't know, but that's what I say.
I don't want. There are certain categories here. Children. Yes,
give them gifts, but not a ton of gifts. Okay,
you shouldn't want. Your living room should not look like
a you know, a Toys r Uss after five hundred
(02:25):
kids have like rummaged through all the packaging or something.
I guess it's toys r Us even exists anymore. That
used to be a Remember when toy stores were this
this thing and they had all this g I Joe's
and he Man made in China.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Toys r Us was incredible. They'd shut them all down.
Remember KB Toys in the mall. Yeah, they used to
have KB toys and Walden Books.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
You had one.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
When I was growing up, we had one toy store
before the Toys r Us came to town, and we
only had one bookstore for basically my whole life. We
had Walden Books in the local mall and those were everywhere.
I don't think either of them exist anymore. I think
Walden Books is gone.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
So you know, there was a time when you had
the first of all, I've always hated the pressure of
you gotta get gifts for all these people especially get.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Gifts for people.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Then maybe you don't know that. Well whatever, here's what
I would say. You get gifts for kids under eighteen
in your family, you know, your kids, your own children, nieces, nephews. Yes,
you get thing gifts like we're gonna get little speed gifts.
Although it's not like he can remember them, he's eight
months old. But you know we we do that fine.
My little nieces and nephews we give them gifts too,
you know. And I'm gonna tell you this. In this household,
(03:31):
I contribute to niece and nephew college funds. That's what
every year. I'm just like, I contribute.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I know that doesn't sound like, you know, like what
Santa Claus would do. Let me tell you something. I
do it every year.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
That is such an old man moved by the way.
I'm not this few. You're too young to be doing
college fund contributions for your thesis.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
What are you actually actually?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
That is nonsense. I don't want all the Ramsey When
I need him, I need Dave Ramsey here. Dave would
support my five twenty nine plan. Your contributions from donations
are amazing. You're too young to be going straight and
the college donations.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I am wrapping myself in the mantle of uncle uncle
Dave Ramsey on this one. He would totally approve. So
I did the five twenty nine plan contributions. Uh, and
so there's that, and then obviously gifts, bonuses, things like that.
People you work with, people who work for you, whatever
it is that they're and and really it's like money
is really what people.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
They actually don't want some beige sweater.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
They actually just want money so they can, you know,
have money in their bank account.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
They can do with what they want.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I we stop doing presence among the adults in my
immediate family at my I wouldn't say demand, but I
pretty much demanded this.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I think.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I don't know if my dad's listening.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I think when he gave me a belt for the
fourth year in a row, I was like, he's not
going to be happy if me this story.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
But I think when he gave me a belt four
years ago, the belt's different or is it like different
color belts?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Was it like black leather belts, like maybe slightly different
buckle on them.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
But he was just like, here you go.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So I'm like, here's a belt. I was like, thank you.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I'm gonna add it to my belt collection, so which
is all from you, because I don't even really wear belts.
So I will say that we decided as a family
to get rid of that pressure to get things last minute.
It is so great. It is such a nice you know,
you don't have to get to just everyone just stop
with this stuff. Christmas is for those of us who
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are Christians. Christmas is actually supposed to be about the
celebration of something holy it is about to be. It's
supposed to be about the celebration as well of family
and being together and reflecting on the year. It's really
not supposed to be get me the Gi Joe aircraft carrier, mommy,
or you don't love me? Like, that's not what it's
(05:55):
and it's not supposed to be. Hey, uncle Phil, thanks
for bringing me these socks with tree frogs on them.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
It's what I've always wanted. Like, No, we don't need
to do this. Here's where I will co sign. And
now this is gonna make me sound really grinchy. I
don't think anybody over the age of eighteen should get
gifts for Christmas. Yes, I think you should only get
gifts for kids. Sanna, that's fun. I don't even know
you need to go to eighteen, but let's say to
eighteen after that. Like, I don't like, I'm not super
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excited to open gifts. I'm not super I have zero
interest in buying. I add to what you're saying, because
obviously you I appreciate this.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
You see what I see. Also play we all walk
around now. Twenty years ago, it was different. You know,
if you really wanted that thing from the Sharper Image,
you had to get out to remember that guy is
a Sharper Image. You had to get out that catalog.
You had to order it. It had to arrive. It
took ten days or a month or whatever. I can
get anything I want delivered tomorrow. I actually don't want
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for any material thing in a way that someone's going
to give it to me for and it's gonna carry
so funny.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
She's like, well, shouldn't I get you. I'm like, no, honey,
I love you.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Don't buy me an expensive watch with my own money,
Like I've got it.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I'm fine. Like I don't need that, I don't want that.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I'm wearing a rubber wedding ring right now because I
can't even find my wedding ring, which is driving me nuts.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
So that's where we are. I agree with all that
we probably have destroyed eighty percent of the Christmas holiday
spirit out there in this segment.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
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where you gotta go. Don't ever forget that Crockett Coffee
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Speaker 2 (07:31):
You need that.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
No, but I just really mean the gifts for immediate
family members that you know, Come on.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I am sold on only kids should get Christmas gifts.
I think it would be a revolutionary thing that would
actually be super beneficial to the country. Not to mention
the number of men that just get blown up every
year because they're like your dad buying belts because they
have no idea what to get people. I mean, what
do you get to your point? Like, do you know,
I mean wallets? I had a mast over the years
(07:59):
for my dad giving me ties. I mean every dad
out there ties, even moms, Like where's that great Saturday
Night Live skit that they did which was actually very
funny and mom got a robe? Do you remember that?
Like it's a great song, you know, Like because mom's
responsible for buying gifts for everybody, and then every year
she gets a coffee mug or a robe or whatever
(08:20):
it is. Yeah, Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck Show,
wishing you and your family a very merry Christmas and
a happy New Year. Buck Sexton, here, the entire Clay
and Buck Show wish you and your family a warm
Christmas season and a.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Joyful New Year.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
You know, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
Clay's in a new studio space, but I don't think
what I'm seeing relates to the studio. And in fact,
I think there's a special light around his head, sort
of like a halo. We the team, we thought maybe
after his meeting with the Pope, Clay should have his
own own intro and theme music. Listen up, everybody, Clay,
(09:12):
Now that you have been blessed by His Holiness the
Pope himself in person, what wisdom, what insights do you
have to share with all of us here.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I've never gotten to meet the Pope.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I'm quite jealous. Go ahead and tell me about this. Well,
I'm quite godly, as everyone who regularly listens to this
program already knew, so this is just a further arika
cut the theme music. This is just a further endorsement
of that. I just have to say, first of all,
to Ambassador Brian Birch of the Holy See and Tilman Fertita,
(09:47):
who is running who is the Ambassador of Italy. We
had dinner with them. They set this all up, and
it's rare when you just have an awesome story, which
is my law school buddy who now owns the Chicago
White Sox, invited the Pope to throw out the first
pitch at a proposed new stadium that they're working on.
(10:08):
And I think buck as a result of us all
pulling together and doing this, setting up this meeting, getting
this done. He and I talked about this a while back.
He said, Hey, how should I introduce myself? And I said, well,
we should get the Pope to throw out the first
pitch at your brand new baseball stadium. And now he's
conveyed the offer. The Pope has said that he wants
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to do it. He's a big White Sox fan, and
I just think it's a super awesome story. Regardless of
what the background is, the idea Buck, if I had
told you last year, Hey, we're going to have an
American pope, and he's just going to be a normal
dude from the South Side of Chicago in many ways,
and he's going to be a huge sports fan of
the White Sox, and he's going to show up and
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throw out the first pitch in a few years at
a new stadium. And I got to be a part
of trying to help set that up. I mean, that's
a ridiculous story that all came together.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
The Holy Father didn't ask for assigned copy of Balls.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Somebody asked if I was going to take the Holy
Father a copy of Balls, and even I, who am
shameless when it comes to self promotion, was like, I
don't think the Holy Father needs to be getting a
copy of Balls from me. It's amazing. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
You know, Clay with the halo in his head currently
doing the show, it's impressive to see.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Have you toured the Vatican before? Have you taken like the.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, I'm just gonna say it. It's gonna sound a
little little fruit through. But my eighth grade class trip
was to Italy, so there you go.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Ow, Well, I had never been to Italy, till a
couple of years ago. I was out last week, super
secret move, got to go set up a meeting with
the Pope, got to hang out with the mbath. It
was an awesome trip. We got to tour the Vatican
Buck after hours and so we were the only people
in the Sistine Chapel, which if you I've been before,
(11:52):
there's usually hundreds of people, and we got a special
tour going through the Vatican. It was it was awesome
the number of maps that they have in the Vatican.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
One of the things that the Vatican used to be
so powerful for for those of you out there that
are history nerds, like both Buck and myself are. If
you study history, one of the things that was the
most valuable back in the day was accurate maps, particularly
of the New World, and that was considered to be
basically the state secrets of the era. How do you
(12:29):
get to the Spice Islands. I love that whole area,
that whole era, the age of exploration. We got to
go tour and see a bunch of maps, Buck, that
were made almost immediately upon Columbus's discovery of America. And
being able to look at those maps that were drafted
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in the fourteen nineties that they kept in the Vatican,
or that the Vatican eventually had ended up in control of.
Think about how valuable that asset was. The map apps
of the world in many ways were the most valuable
intelligence of that era.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
So, since we're just totally nerding out here, Clay my
official genealogist, who did this whole family thing, my son's
name is Speed. It's because Speed is a family name.
The Speed Museum in Kentucky, by the way, the same line,
and we are very much descendants of that. So actually
Kentuckian on one side. There you go something new for people.
And John Speed, who was the chief cartographer for Queen
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Elizabeth I in the early sixteen hundreds, is a direct
descendant and his descendants that came to America became the
Speed slash Sexton family. So my son is named for
a guy who made really good maps for the Queen
of England in the early sixteen hundreds.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Boom, that's all around. That's a heck of a connection.
I just it was an amazing trip, and I think
I said this when we came back. The first time
I went to Italy was a couple of years ago.
We also got to go to uh to tour what
I think is maybe the most the most I mean, look,
there are tons of incredible parts of Italy. We're in
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the coliseum, which is for someone who is a fan
of sports. I mean, basically the beginning and the foundation
of every of every aspect of the of the entire
sports industry.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
He used to feed Christians to the lions there though,
Saint Clay, So we don't we don't like that part
of it.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
But a little bit, a little bit of a downside
potentially associated there.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That's the part that everyone always leaves out about Marcus Aurelius.
By the way, Oh, he was a stoic in the meditations.
Meditations a little self indulgent if you ask me. And
also this guy was a huge persecutor of the Christians,
and his son, Commedists, was a psycho, and so he
wasn't a very good dad either. So maybe everybody should
stop getting all their lessons from the Stoics.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I'm just throwing it out there. I haven't ever read
the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius. It's actually on my list.
Did you read it?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, of course, I mean it's a lot, it's a
lot of don't even get me started. Meditations is philosophy
for people who don't want to actually put too much
work into philosophy, right, That sounds like me. Sounds like me, honestly,
Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton was quoted a second I think
it was his favorite thing ever written. I'm like, yeah, no, surprise.
(15:20):
Leaves plenty of tom to chase ladies, not spend a
lot of time actually studying.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I think if you told me, hey, you're gonna have
to spend a lot of time in a philosophy class,
I would that does not sound like something that I
would would want to do. But what I was gonna
say also is I think the coolest, maybe the most
amazing building is the Pantheon, which is roughly, you know,
two thousand years old. And every time I have the
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opportunity to tour a place like that, I can't help
but think just how incredibly young this nation is when
you think about it in the context.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Of Greece, Rome.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Certainly last year I was over in in Israel. You know,
the things that we consider to be super old here
are a pinprick of time and much of the quote
unquote old world. So I hope people get the opportunity
to go over there. Thank you to the Vatican Ambassador
Brian Birch and Italy's ambassador Tilman Fertita. We had great
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times with they and their families. Awesome people, great choices
by the Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
You're enjoying the Best of program with Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
We have Isabelle Brown with us.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
She is the host of The isabel Brown Show on
all social platforms or Daily wire Plus. Isabelle, I think
first time we've had you on radio, but you and
I go way back from the first TV in the
digital days.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
How you doing doing fantastic? So excited to be here.
I actually think I have been on once, if memory
serves a year and a half plus ago, right before
the release of my book, and it's crazy how much
life has changed since then.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
So it's great to be back.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Fantastic to have you back. Your memory is better than mine,
which is not surprising because I'm about to be forty
four years old, so I am getting more forgetful, So
welcome back. It's been eighteen months. We should have had
you back sooner, but here we are. I hope the book,
hope the book is fantastic. By the way, so just
take us into the scene a little bit here. I
ten years ago, I used to do CNN. It's been
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a long time now. It's basically been about ten years
since I've I've done CNN.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
You were on CNN last night.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
We'll play.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Oh, we have the cut for everybody, so you're what
is the show? You can tell everybody what this one is?
Speaker 5 (17:30):
This is This was Abby Phillips panel show that runs
during the ten PM hour, and boy it was pretty
spicy last night.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I'll tell you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, So let's let's let everyone hear just at a
little taste, a little snippet here.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
This is cut twenty seven play.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
You can speculate all you want, but the authorities who
are charging this guy haven't laid out a motive. That's
all upset. The other thing is that, no, I'm not
suggesting that he was tied to stop the steal, but
I'm not sure. Your question was summer right after jamis
so it be all the hypothetic individual. So it's called
the hypothetical. Had he been prosecuted alongside all of those
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other people who were involved in violent acts on January sixth,
would Donald Trump have pardoned him?
Speaker 5 (18:10):
No, because individuals who were why not the Capitol Building
on January? We're not planting pipe bomb? What about the one?
Speaker 6 (18:17):
But what about what about the one segment the American.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
It's rich to me that now we have no idea
what the moment, but it's about hold on this. What
about is about what about the time hours of what about.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
The people who American?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
This was intended to bonement additional, what was to detract reform?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
They they don't want to get that.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
You don't want to grapple.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
With the fact of what happened.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Question, let me ask you, Let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question. What about the people
who assaulted and beat police officers on January? Regularly said,
so do you think do you think that they are
just passing that they were wrongfully prosecuted?
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Well, we didn't beat police in January sixth.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Okay, so there's I know, everyone's like, whoa, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
It's like they're in the middle of the scrum, the
melee that's going on there. Can I give it to
you to just make make your initial point because it
seems like the host there slash whoever else is kind
of you know, chiming in doesn't understand that walking into
the Capitol and taking a selfie and planning a pipe
bomb are different things.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Help help work work through that for us.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Well, you know, it's obvious that everything is violence except
actual violence. To the left right, words are violence, ideas
are violence, the American flag is violence, but planting pipe
bombs actually isn't violent. I guess according to CNN, that
was just one of many different topics we covered on
this very fiery panel last night, I of course, being
(19:54):
the metaphorical punching bag, where every question I was asked
two words in the host just immediately spoke over and
completely ignored everything that I was saying. For example, I
answered that question I think there was one snippet there
about if violent protesters deserve to be pardoned or not.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I said, of course not.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
If anyone is beating a police officer, of course they
need to be in prison for such behavior. And then
she just completely ignored that six or seven times. But
what was really interesting to me is this panel was
so obsessed with running interference for anyone that they remotely
associated with being on the left, And when it came
to this particular conversation about the arrest that was made
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against Brian Cole Junior, the alleged pipe bomber from January
fifth is when he planted those bombs twenty twenty one,
but they were discovered on January sixth, in the midst
of all the chaos. They literally had the audacity to say, well,
let's just state the obvious. This guy's black, so he'll
never get a presidential pardon for planting pipe bombs. The
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obsession that these people have, particularly the left wing establishment media,
with excusing any sort of political violence as long as
it fits their agenda, if that's something as ridiculous as
planting a pipe bomb, or a school shooting against Catholic
school children because they're Catholic and therefore are somehow extremists
for our country, or even all out assassinations of people
(21:11):
like our friend Charlie Kirk. It's becoming so obvious to
me in the last three months, more than ever before
in my career, that the demons are getting louder and
evil is being exposed with every passing day. The literal
darkness I felt in the CNN studio yesterday was very palpable.
I said that to my team as I walked out,
and I'm realizing, after these last few months, I don't
(21:32):
know that I'll ever be the same again, realizing how
strong that evil has taken hold in our country.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
So we just went into kind of an intense and
serious direction there. But it is a Friday, and I'm
actually now is well, you can't I don't think you
can see this, but I am now holding the famous
fellow known as Baby Speed.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Oh I can't see I wish I could.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
He he's anyone who's watching on the YouTube can see it.
And he's now speaking up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Oh, there he is.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
I was grabbing a microphone. He's a lot of fun.
This is what happens during live radio. You and I
have a child about the same age. WHOA Okay, he
loves the mic. I'm gonna give him back now we
have a child about the same age. That was just
for all the video video watchers.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
What's it like? The what's the whole parent thing been like?
For you? And whoa? There he is? Sorry.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
I love that Baby Speed wants to have his own
podcast because my daughter Aila constantly is talking all the time.
I keep saying, there's a lot of money to be
out in a baby podcast. Somewhere, so maybe we should
start one.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
I had my daughter at the end of April. Birthday
was April thirtieth, and truly, as I'm sure you know,
as a new parent, my whole life has changed in
all of the best ways. Since then, I am a
completely different person. I view the world completely differently, but
in the most beautiful, holistic way. I think there's such
a greater purpose to what I do every day. It
gives me a reason to jump out of bed in
the morning, to know exactly what I'm fighting for. And
(22:57):
I've never experienced this depth of love ever before my life.
It is truly magical.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
It is, It is incredible. I honestly I love being
a parent every single day and even the days when
the sleep is not great. And maybe Speed is a
pretty amazing baby, but he can be you know, he's
a baby. He can get a little fussy. Sometimes at
night I will say, my wife is incredible and she
handles like ninety percent of the really challenging stuff, but
I pitch in sometimes. I try to be a very
(23:22):
involved dad, but I do think and I want to
you're are you gen Z or you like you know
you're gen Z?
Speaker 5 (23:29):
I'm very, very proudly the first year of gen Z.
I will wear that as a badge of honor till
the day.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Time you are gen Z.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I think that there is just for my observation that
people are now in the culture here in America thinking
about family and building families in a more just generally
in a very positive way. But also I'm talking about
the youth, you know, the young people now and at
a younger age like I feel like there has been
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a shift toward family, toward thinking at least about family.
The numbers, I know don't bear this out. The numbers
are that we're going down, but I feel like the
conversation has changed.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Is that wishful thinking on my part?
Speaker 5 (24:09):
How do you use I think that's a very beautiful
and accurate diagnosis of where young people's culture is at
in this country. You're right, the numbers are very, very
sad when it comes to the state of America's fertility
rate that includes just the choice to have children. We
are at a one hundred year low fertility rate in
our country, which is coupled with one of the lowest
marriage rates we've ever had in our country's history. That
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is the legacy and story sadly of the millennial generation
who was constantly bombarded with anti marriage and anti family messaging.
That messaging has gotten so overtly loud and honestly crazy,
like people are actually running headlines like the Los Angeles
Times last year just before the election it is almost
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shameful to want to have children, real headline that I
think people are starting to see between the lines and
read between all of this craziness to realize there is
a very clear agenda to make you lonely, depressed, and miserable.
I mean, for God's sakes, the last Surgeon General of
the United States, our top ranking doctor under the Biden admin,
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actually issued a public health warning that parenting is dangerous
to your health. This was real, on the record from
the federal government. Because it seems making more people somehow
makes you more lonely, which makes no sense, right. But
young people are also having this massive revival of faith,
and I think so much of that has to do
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with voices like Charlie Kirk, like the Clay and Buck
show here, and so many other people that are tapping
into this spiritual crisis young people have had for several generations.
Now realizing we have to fight for what is good
and true and beautiful in culture, way more than we
ever fight for politics. And at the cornerstone of that
is reviving the American family. All of my friends are engaged, married,
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or having babies. My best friend shout out to Savannah
had her baby last night, first baby, and it's just
so exciting to see that revival of family all across
our country led by gen Z.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I also think this is maybe a little bit of
an aside, but it's related. You know, they've walked back
and Bill Gates and others have walked back some of
the climate change doomerism stuff that's out there, and I
feel like they owe an apology to people. They managed
to convince some people this was a real thing. It's
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hard to think that it could be, but it was
real that climate extinction or climate change extinction was so severe,
meaning that if people didn't stop stop having kids, we
would go extinct because we would overstress the resources of
the planet. It's a crazy idea, but they convince people
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of that, Isabelle, and now they're like, yeah, maybe we
missed the mark on that a little bit.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Yeah, in case you didn't hear this, because Lord knows
the media didn't cover it. Just a few days ago,
Bill Gates came forward and said, yeah, oops, actually there
is no climate crisis anymore. We fixed it. Sorry to
have alarm you that we're all going to die in
literally twelve years. I mean, the propaganda is just insanity.
But I have to say, I'm just so encouraged to
see ordinary people, regardless of where you fall in the
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political spectrum or what your personal deepest held values are,
realizing that life is meant.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
To be shared with the people that we love.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Just a few days ago, the Wall Street Journal came
to our house and covered my family on the cover
of the Wall Street Journal about the revival of the
American family and young women really tapping into this idea
that we can have thriving careers and entrepreneurship and some
of the girl boss culture without the toxic corporate element
to that. But more importantly, that means nothing if we
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don't have our children to share it with in a
legacy to build upon which had resoundingly positive effects and
lots of great response from people. So I'm incredibly excited
about this family revival. My daughter means so much more
to me than any paycheck ever will and the response
I'm getting, even from young women on the very radical
left about this, that they're quitting their birth control, they're
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deleting their dating apps, they are desperate to find a
god fearing husband and wanting to build a family out
of the big city and restoring American roots of what
the American dream has always looked like.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I love to see it.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Can you can you just have a little conversation though,
with some of your female millennial peers. These oversized like
like dad jeans, they're not even dad jeans, They're they're
I don't know what they are, these giant jeans that
these women are walking around.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Am I wearing baggy jeans from the nineties right now?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yes? Yes, I am. You know what I'm all about it.
The mom jean has made a return.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
And my postpart of mom body is grateful for Ali.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Is she wearing?
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Ma Am I telling her to shut down the mom
jeans and she's wearing them right now in the studio.
Oh they're not like, okay, but they are these jeans
that I see these young women wearing. I'm like, you
might as well be wearing a burka. I'm just saying
this is crazy talk, but apparently some of you think
they're comfortable. I'm not a fashion guy. I sit here
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in a T shirt, but I know it's.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Funny you say Burka. I actually saw several burkas in
the wild in Washington, d C. A few days ago,
so sadly here in New York where I am too,
I think that will probably be one of the next
fashion statements if we don't bring back a classic cut
bootcut gene.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I'm all about the classic American gene. All right, Isabel Brown,
Isabel Brown show, go check it out. Everybody, and Isabelle,
thank you for being here with us. Great to talk
to you. Thanks for coming to hang with the team
in New York.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Merry Christmas, everybody, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We are
live and it's always in motion. On this show.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
We have a surprise guest in our New York City studio.
I don't even know who it is. I truly do not.
They just said he's miked up. So, sir, mystery guest,
you are on the air. I'm holding a book.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
It's called balls, and you have to have a lot
of those to write that book and call that title.
How Trump young Men in Sports Saved America? Right there?
Of course, that would be Clay Travis's book, claim Buck,
what's going on? Man? Good to talk to you all.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Good, We're good And mister mister Sean Hannity, it is fantastic.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Have you with this.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I've I've been hearing a little bit that my buddy
Clay here he owes you a little money. He's like
turning into the guy who runs away in the Bronx tail.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
You know me thousands, you know. The ironic part is
Clay he's way more knowledgeable in sports than I am.
Although I love sports, and like everybody else, I find
it a great distraction. But I love our gladiator of
sports in particular, love UFC. I love football, I love
ice hockey. I'm a big Florida Panthers fan of seasons tickets.
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And what I love is that he'll be on TV
or we'll be on this show. We'll just be talking
and I'll say, who do you think is gonna win?
And I always take the other team and he always loses. Wow,
always wrong.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Reverse the reverse cloth if I had been on and
we had been going back and forth over Alabama Georgia.
I did hit my bloodbank guarantee on Georgia. I know
you've got Alabama connections.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
That was a.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Beatdown that the Bulldogs put on the Teah.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
But I didn't take that bet because I know I'm
gonna lose. I'm like I just when you know somebody's
gonna lose, you don't make that bet. You just don't.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
John, do you have do you have a Super Bowl
prediction that you always make or are you willing to
make one now on the air, Clay, do you have one?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Since I have both of you.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Super Bowls a little bit early to make that prediction,
but I do think Uh, I don't know. I honestly
would love to see the New England Patriots back in it.
Maybe I'm an oddball out on this. I've known Robert
Kraft for decades, so I like him personally and he
is a great, great guy. He recently sent me a
pair of sneakers. You know, we wear sneakers all the time.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I saw him Sean at the FIFA event. He was
there for the World Cup draw.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
So I would like to see them get back. I
think they can. They might have found the next Tom Brady.
This guy heay wait.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I also had Sean do you talk about soccer on
your show at all? Because Noway hijacked the show last
week for like an hour to talk about FIFA, which
Ali calls Faifa.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Which.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Ali's not that wrong.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
You know.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
The ironic part is I was always a good athlete
in school before I once had a shoulder injury, a
rotator cuff injury. I always had a slingshot arm. I
was a pitcher in baseball. Love sports, and I was,
you know, and then because it was a small school,
they my teachers were the coaches of the teams, and
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it was soccer, and then it was basketball, and then
it was baseball. Baseball I liked the most at the time.
But I was always a hockey player too, And they
are like, okay, you can play. You're going to play,
or you're going to fail. So I had a choice.
But it did improve my grades in high school. I
would play these sports. They made me play soccer for
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four years in high school and I hated it.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
And not only position real quick center half.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Back, which means if you run up and down the
field and then like in between periods, I'd be smoking
a cigarette.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Sean Hannity, He'll be on on many of these stations,
pretty much all of them right after US. Sean, I'll
get to you next time I see a promise. Money's coming,
all
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Right, super Bowl bet coming, super Bowl Bet'll take it.
Thank you for listening. This is the best of with Klay,
Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm gonna take some flak here, Buck not about.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
This, oh man. I was like, you're getting in the
way of the steamroller, buddy.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Oh I got step it in front of not step
it in front of the steamroller and getting flattened. Maybe
even broader though. I think Christmas music's overplayed. I was
out to dinner the other day Sunday night, went out
to dinner and I could hear throughout the whole meal
they were playing Christmas music. Now look, I used to
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work in retail back in the day. American Eagle Outfitters
may have heard of it. Abercrombie and Fitch, and I
know because we would have our holiday medley and anybody
who's ever worked in retail. It's the same track over
and over and over again. But there is evidence to
support that people buy more products when you play Christmas music.
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So I get it in a retail setting. I don't
know that I need to hear it in elevators everywhere.
I don't know that I need to hear it while
I'm eating dinner. I would be very very comfortable with
and I used to make jokes about this in sports
talk radio, we would stop playing We would only play
Christmas music starting in December. I know we play a
lot of Christmas music on this do you know we
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get beat in ratings? Now, you and me and everybody
out there who does talk radio, every community in America,
Christmas music goes to number one, we just get trounced,
and all they do is play jingle bells over and
over and over again. So I feel like we're inundated, frankly,
with too much holiday music. Does that make me sound
like the Grinch? Or do you think most people agree
(01:38):
with me that it's impossible to escape and we don't
need as much.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
No, I think you're gonna get lit up over this one, buddy.
I'm just gonna step away from the blast radius. I
love Santa Claus and all the Christmas cheer and music
and everything else.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Just telling you, ho ho ho, I'm the Grinch. I'll
own it. There's too much Christmas music and all facets
of life. I don't need to hear it everyway. I'll
tell you this.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I believe I've referred to it before as going Grinch,
or maybe other people have coined that and I just
picked it up. I don't know, but that's what I say.
I don't want. There are certain categories here. Children. Yes,
give them gifts, but not a ton of gifts. Okay,
you shouldn't want. Your living room should not look like
a you know, a Toys r Uss after five hundred
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kids have like rummaged through all the packaging or something.
I guess it's toys r Us even exists anymore. That
used to be a Remember when toy stores were this
this thing and they had all this g I Joe's
and he Man made in China.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Toys r Us was incredible. They'd shut them all down.
Remember KB Toys in the mall. Yeah, they used to
have KB toys and Walden Books.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
You had one.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
When I was growing up, we had one toy store
before the Toys r Us came to town, and we
only had one bookstore for basically my whole life. We
had Walden Books in the local mall and those were everywhere.
I don't think either of them exist anymore. I think
Walden Books is gone.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
So you know, there was a time when you had
the first of all, I've always hated the pressure of
you gotta get gifts for all these people especially get.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Gifts for people.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Then maybe you don't know that. Well whatever, here's what
I would say. You get gifts for kids under eighteen
in your family, you know, your kids, your own children, nieces, nephews. Yes,
you get thing gifts like we're gonna get little speed gifts.
Although it's not like he can remember them, he's eight
months old. But you know we we do that fine.
My little nieces and nephews we give them gifts too,
you know. And I'm gonna tell you this. In this household,
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I contribute to niece and nephew college funds. That's what
every year. I'm just like, I contribute.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I know that doesn't sound like, you know, like what
Santa Claus would do. Let me tell you something. I
do it every year.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
That is such an old man moved by the way.
I'm not this few. You're too young to be doing
college fund contributions for your thesis.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
What are you actually actually?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
That is nonsense. I don't want all the Ramsey When
I need him, I need Dave Ramsey here. Dave would
support my five twenty nine plan. Your contributions from donations
are amazing. You're too young to be going straight and
the college donations.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I am wrapping myself in the mantle of uncle uncle
Dave Ramsey on this one. He would totally approve. So
I did the five twenty nine plan contributions. Uh, and
so there's that, and then obviously gifts, bonuses, things like that.
People you work with, people who work for you, whatever
it is that they're and and really it's like money
is really what people.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
They actually don't want some beige sweater.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
They actually just want money so they can, you know,
have money in their bank account.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
They can do with what they want.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I we stop doing presence among the adults in my
immediate family at my I wouldn't say demand, but I
pretty much demanded this.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I think.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I don't know if my dad's listening.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I think when he gave me a belt for the
fourth year in a row, I was like, he's not
going to be happy if me this story.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
But I think when he gave me a belt four
years ago, the belt's different or is it like different
color belts?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Was it like black leather belts, like maybe slightly different
buckle on them.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
But he was just like, here you go.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So I'm like, here's a belt. I was like, thank you.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I'm gonna add it to my belt collection, so which
is all from you, because I don't even really wear belts.
So I will say that we decided as a family
to get rid of that pressure to get things last minute.
It is so great. It is such a nice you know,
you don't have to get to just everyone just stop
with this stuff. Christmas is for those of us who
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are Christians. Christmas is actually supposed to be about the
celebration of something holy it is about to be. It's
supposed to be about the celebration as well of family
and being together and reflecting on the year. It's really
not supposed to be get me the Gi Joe aircraft carrier, mommy,
or you don't love me? Like, that's not what it's
(05:55):
and it's not supposed to be. Hey, uncle Phil, thanks
for bringing me these socks with tree frogs on them.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
It's what I've always wanted. Like, No, we don't need
to do this. Here's where I will co sign. And
now this is gonna make me sound really grinchy. I
don't think anybody over the age of eighteen should get
gifts for Christmas. Yes, I think you should only get
gifts for kids. Sanna, that's fun. I don't even know
you need to go to eighteen, but let's say to
eighteen after that. Like, I don't like, I'm not super
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excited to open gifts. I'm not super I have zero
interest in buying. I add to what you're saying, because
obviously you I appreciate this.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
You see what I see. Also play we all walk
around now. Twenty years ago, it was different. You know,
if you really wanted that thing from the Sharper Image,
you had to get out to remember that guy is
a Sharper Image. You had to get out that catalog.
You had to order it. It had to arrive. It
took ten days or a month or whatever. I can
get anything I want delivered tomorrow. I actually don't want
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for any material thing in a way that someone's going
to give it to me for and it's gonna carry
so funny.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
She's like, well, shouldn't I get you. I'm like, no, honey,
I love you.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Don't buy me an expensive watch with my own money,
Like I've got it.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I'm fine. Like I don't need that, I don't want that.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I'm wearing a rubber wedding ring right now because I
can't even find my wedding ring, which is driving me nuts.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
So that's where we are. I agree with all that
we probably have destroyed eighty percent of the Christmas holiday
spirit out there in this segment.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
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where you gotta go. Don't ever forget that Crockett Coffee
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Speaker 2 (07:31):
You need that.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
No, but I just really mean the gifts for immediate
family members that you know, Come on.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I am sold on only kids should get Christmas gifts.
I think it would be a revolutionary thing that would
actually be super beneficial to the country. Not to mention
the number of men that just get blown up every
year because they're like your dad buying belts because they
have no idea what to get people. I mean, what
do you get to your point? Like, do you know,
I mean wallets? I had a mast over the years
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for my dad giving me ties. I mean every dad
out there ties, even moms, Like where's that great Saturday
Night Live skit that they did which was actually very
funny and mom got a robe? Do you remember that?
Like it's a great song, you know, Like because mom's
responsible for buying gifts for everybody, and then every year
she gets a coffee mug or a robe or whatever
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it is. Yeah, Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck Show,
wishing you and your family a very merry Christmas and
a happy New Year. Buck Sexton, here, the entire Clay
and Buck Show wish you and your family a warm
Christmas season and a.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Joyful New Year.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
You know, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
Clay's in a new studio space, but I don't think
what I'm seeing relates to the studio. And in fact,
I think there's a special light around his head, sort
of like a halo. We the team, we thought maybe
after his meeting with the Pope, Clay should have his
own own intro and theme music. Listen up, everybody, Clay,
(09:12):
Now that you have been blessed by His Holiness the
Pope himself in person, what wisdom, what insights do you
have to share with all of us here.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I've never gotten to meet the Pope.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I'm quite jealous. Go ahead and tell me about this. Well,
I'm quite godly, as everyone who regularly listens to this
program already knew, so this is just a further arika
cut the theme music. This is just a further endorsement
of that. I just have to say, first of all,
to Ambassador Brian Birch of the Holy See and Tilman Fertita,
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who is running who is the Ambassador of Italy. We
had dinner with them. They set this all up, and
it's rare when you just have an awesome story, which
is my law school buddy who now owns the Chicago
White Sox, invited the Pope to throw out the first
pitch at a proposed new stadium that they're working on.
(10:08):
And I think buck as a result of us all
pulling together and doing this, setting up this meeting, getting
this done. He and I talked about this a while back.
He said, Hey, how should I introduce myself? And I said, well,
we should get the Pope to throw out the first
pitch at your brand new baseball stadium. And now he's
conveyed the offer. The Pope has said that he wants
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to do it. He's a big White Sox fan, and
I just think it's a super awesome story. Regardless of
what the background is, the idea Buck, if I had
told you last year, Hey, we're going to have an
American pope, and he's just going to be a normal
dude from the South Side of Chicago in many ways,
and he's going to be a huge sports fan of
the White Sox, and he's going to show up and
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throw out the first pitch in a few years at
a new stadium. And I got to be a part
of trying to help set that up. I mean, that's
a ridiculous story that all came together.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
The Holy Father didn't ask for assigned copy of Balls.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Somebody asked if I was going to take the Holy
Father a copy of Balls, and even I, who am
shameless when it comes to self promotion, was like, I
don't think the Holy Father needs to be getting a
copy of Balls from me. It's amazing. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
You know, Clay with the halo in his head currently
doing the show, it's impressive to see.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Have you toured the Vatican before? Have you taken like the.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, I'm just gonna say it. It's gonna sound a
little little fruit through. But my eighth grade class trip
was to Italy, so there you go.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Ow, Well, I had never been to Italy, till a
couple of years ago. I was out last week, super
secret move, got to go set up a meeting with
the Pope, got to hang out with the mbath. It
was an awesome trip. We got to tour the Vatican
Buck after hours and so we were the only people
in the Sistine Chapel, which if you I've been before,
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there's usually hundreds of people, and we got a special
tour going through the Vatican. It was it was awesome
the number of maps that they have in the Vatican.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
One of the things that the Vatican used to be
so powerful for for those of you out there that
are history nerds, like both Buck and myself are. If
you study history, one of the things that was the
most valuable back in the day was accurate maps, particularly
of the New World, and that was considered to be
basically the state secrets of the era. How do you
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get to the Spice Islands. I love that whole area,
that whole era, the age of exploration. We got to
go tour and see a bunch of maps, Buck, that
were made almost immediately upon Columbus's discovery of America. And
being able to look at those maps that were drafted
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in the fourteen nineties that they kept in the Vatican,
or that the Vatican eventually had ended up in control of.
Think about how valuable that asset was. The map apps
of the world in many ways were the most valuable
intelligence of that era.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
So, since we're just totally nerding out here, Clay my
official genealogist, who did this whole family thing, my son's
name is Speed. It's because Speed is a family name.
The Speed Museum in Kentucky, by the way, the same line,
and we are very much descendants of that. So actually
Kentuckian on one side. There you go something new for people.
And John Speed, who was the chief cartographer for Queen
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Elizabeth I in the early sixteen hundreds, is a direct
descendant and his descendants that came to America became the
Speed slash Sexton family. So my son is named for
a guy who made really good maps for the Queen
of England in the early sixteen hundreds.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Boom, that's all around. That's a heck of a connection.
I just it was an amazing trip, and I think
I said this when we came back. The first time
I went to Italy was a couple of years ago.
We also got to go to uh to tour what
I think is maybe the most the most I mean, look,
there are tons of incredible parts of Italy. We're in
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the coliseum, which is for someone who is a fan
of sports. I mean, basically the beginning and the foundation
of every of every aspect of the of the entire
sports industry.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
He used to feed Christians to the lions there though,
Saint Clay, So we don't we don't like that part
of it.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
But a little bit, a little bit of a downside
potentially associated there.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That's the part that everyone always leaves out about Marcus Aurelius.
By the way, Oh, he was a stoic in the meditations.
Meditations a little self indulgent if you ask me. And
also this guy was a huge persecutor of the Christians,
and his son, Commedists, was a psycho, and so he
wasn't a very good dad either. So maybe everybody should
stop getting all their lessons from the Stoics.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I'm just throwing it out there. I haven't ever read
the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius. It's actually on my list.
Did you read it?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, of course, I mean it's a lot, it's a
lot of don't even get me started. Meditations is philosophy
for people who don't want to actually put too much
work into philosophy, right, That sounds like me. Sounds like me, honestly,
Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton was quoted a second I think
it was his favorite thing ever written. I'm like, yeah, no, surprise.
(15:20):
Leaves plenty of tom to chase ladies, not spend a
lot of time actually studying.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I think if you told me, hey, you're gonna have
to spend a lot of time in a philosophy class,
I would that does not sound like something that I
would would want to do. But what I was gonna
say also is I think the coolest, maybe the most
amazing building is the Pantheon, which is roughly, you know,
two thousand years old. And every time I have the
(15:47):
opportunity to tour a place like that, I can't help
but think just how incredibly young this nation is when
you think about it in the context.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Of Greece, Rome.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Certainly last year I was over in in Israel. You know,
the things that we consider to be super old here
are a pinprick of time and much of the quote
unquote old world. So I hope people get the opportunity
to go over there. Thank you to the Vatican Ambassador
Brian Birch and Italy's ambassador Tilman Fertita. We had great
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times with they and their families. Awesome people, great choices
by the Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
You're enjoying the Best of program with Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
We have Isabelle Brown with us.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
She is the host of The isabel Brown Show on
all social platforms or Daily wire Plus. Isabelle, I think
first time we've had you on radio, but you and
I go way back from the first TV in the
digital days.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
How you doing doing fantastic? So excited to be here.
I actually think I have been on once, if memory
serves a year and a half plus ago, right before
the release of my book, and it's crazy how much
life has changed since then.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
So it's great to be back.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Fantastic to have you back. Your memory is better than mine,
which is not surprising because I'm about to be forty
four years old, so I am getting more forgetful, So
welcome back. It's been eighteen months. We should have had
you back sooner, but here we are. I hope the book,
hope the book is fantastic. By the way, so just
take us into the scene a little bit here. I
ten years ago, I used to do CNN. It's been
(17:18):
a long time now. It's basically been about ten years
since I've I've done CNN.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
You were on CNN last night.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
We'll play.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Oh, we have the cut for everybody, so you're what
is the show? You can tell everybody what this one is?
Speaker 5 (17:30):
This is This was Abby Phillips panel show that runs
during the ten PM hour, and boy it was pretty
spicy last night.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I'll tell you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, So let's let's let everyone hear just at a
little taste, a little snippet here.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
This is cut twenty seven play.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
You can speculate all you want, but the authorities who
are charging this guy haven't laid out a motive. That's
all upset. The other thing is that, no, I'm not
suggesting that he was tied to stop the steal, but
I'm not sure. Your question was summer right after jamis
so it be all the hypothetic individual. So it's called
the hypothetical. Had he been prosecuted alongside all of those
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other people who were involved in violent acts on January sixth,
would Donald Trump have pardoned him?
Speaker 5 (18:10):
No, because individuals who were why not the Capitol Building
on January? We're not planting pipe bomb? What about the one?
Speaker 6 (18:17):
But what about what about the one segment the American.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
It's rich to me that now we have no idea
what the moment, but it's about hold on this. What
about is about what about the time hours of what about.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
The people who American?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
This was intended to bonement additional, what was to detract reform?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
They they don't want to get that.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
You don't want to grapple.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
With the fact of what happened.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Question, let me ask you, Let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question. What about the people
who assaulted and beat police officers on January? Regularly said,
so do you think do you think that they are
just passing that they were wrongfully prosecuted?
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Well, we didn't beat police in January sixth.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Okay, so there's I know, everyone's like, whoa, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
It's like they're in the middle of the scrum, the
melee that's going on there. Can I give it to
you to just make make your initial point because it
seems like the host there slash whoever else is kind
of you know, chiming in doesn't understand that walking into
the Capitol and taking a selfie and planning a pipe
bomb are different things.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Help help work work through that for us.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Well, you know, it's obvious that everything is violence except
actual violence. To the left right, words are violence, ideas
are violence, the American flag is violence, but planting pipe
bombs actually isn't violent. I guess according to CNN, that
was just one of many different topics we covered on
this very fiery panel last night, I of course, being
(19:54):
the metaphorical punching bag, where every question I was asked
two words in the host just immediately spoke over and
completely ignored everything that I was saying. For example, I
answered that question I think there was one snippet there
about if violent protesters deserve to be pardoned or not.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I said, of course not.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
If anyone is beating a police officer, of course they
need to be in prison for such behavior. And then
she just completely ignored that six or seven times. But
what was really interesting to me is this panel was
so obsessed with running interference for anyone that they remotely
associated with being on the left, And when it came
to this particular conversation about the arrest that was made
(20:29):
against Brian Cole Junior, the alleged pipe bomber from January
fifth is when he planted those bombs twenty twenty one,
but they were discovered on January sixth, in the midst
of all the chaos. They literally had the audacity to say, well,
let's just state the obvious. This guy's black, so he'll
never get a presidential pardon for planting pipe bombs. The
(20:50):
obsession that these people have, particularly the left wing establishment media,
with excusing any sort of political violence as long as
it fits their agenda, if that's something as ridiculous as
planting a pipe bomb, or a school shooting against Catholic
school children because they're Catholic and therefore are somehow extremists
for our country, or even all out assassinations of people
(21:11):
like our friend Charlie Kirk. It's becoming so obvious to
me in the last three months, more than ever before
in my career, that the demons are getting louder and
evil is being exposed with every passing day. The literal
darkness I felt in the CNN studio yesterday was very palpable.
I said that to my team as I walked out,
and I'm realizing, after these last few months, I don't
(21:32):
know that I'll ever be the same again, realizing how
strong that evil has taken hold in our country.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
So we just went into kind of an intense and
serious direction there. But it is a Friday, and I'm
actually now is well, you can't I don't think you
can see this, but I am now holding the famous
fellow known as Baby Speed.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Oh I can't see I wish I could.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
He he's anyone who's watching on the YouTube can see it.
And he's now speaking up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Oh, there he is.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
I was grabbing a microphone. He's a lot of fun.
This is what happens during live radio. You and I
have a child about the same age. WHOA Okay, he
loves the mic. I'm gonna give him back now we
have a child about the same age. That was just
for all the video video watchers.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
What's it like? The what's the whole parent thing been like?
For you? And whoa? There he is? Sorry.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
I love that Baby Speed wants to have his own
podcast because my daughter Aila constantly is talking all the time.
I keep saying, there's a lot of money to be
out in a baby podcast. Somewhere, so maybe we should
start one.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
I had my daughter at the end of April. Birthday
was April thirtieth, and truly, as I'm sure you know,
as a new parent, my whole life has changed in
all of the best ways. Since then, I am a
completely different person. I view the world completely differently, but
in the most beautiful, holistic way. I think there's such
a greater purpose to what I do every day. It
gives me a reason to jump out of bed in
the morning, to know exactly what I'm fighting for. And
(22:57):
I've never experienced this depth of love ever before my life.
It is truly magical.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
It is, It is incredible. I honestly I love being
a parent every single day and even the days when
the sleep is not great. And maybe Speed is a
pretty amazing baby, but he can be you know, he's
a baby. He can get a little fussy. Sometimes at
night I will say, my wife is incredible and she
handles like ninety percent of the really challenging stuff, but
I pitch in sometimes. I try to be a very
(23:22):
involved dad, but I do think and I want to
you're are you gen Z or you like you know
you're gen Z?
Speaker 5 (23:29):
I'm very, very proudly the first year of gen Z.
I will wear that as a badge of honor till
the day.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Time you are gen Z.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I think that there is just for my observation that
people are now in the culture here in America thinking
about family and building families in a more just generally
in a very positive way. But also I'm talking about
the youth, you know, the young people now and at
a younger age like I feel like there has been
(23:58):
a shift toward family, toward thinking at least about family.
The numbers, I know don't bear this out. The numbers
are that we're going down, but I feel like the
conversation has changed.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Is that wishful thinking on my part?
Speaker 5 (24:09):
How do you use I think that's a very beautiful
and accurate diagnosis of where young people's culture is at
in this country. You're right, the numbers are very, very
sad when it comes to the state of America's fertility
rate that includes just the choice to have children. We
are at a one hundred year low fertility rate in
our country, which is coupled with one of the lowest
marriage rates we've ever had in our country's history. That
(24:33):
is the legacy and story sadly of the millennial generation
who was constantly bombarded with anti marriage and anti family messaging.
That messaging has gotten so overtly loud and honestly crazy,
like people are actually running headlines like the Los Angeles
Times last year just before the election it is almost
(24:53):
shameful to want to have children, real headline that I
think people are starting to see between the lines and
read between all of this craziness to realize there is
a very clear agenda to make you lonely, depressed, and miserable.
I mean, for God's sakes, the last Surgeon General of
the United States, our top ranking doctor under the Biden admin,
(25:13):
actually issued a public health warning that parenting is dangerous
to your health. This was real, on the record from
the federal government. Because it seems making more people somehow
makes you more lonely, which makes no sense, right. But
young people are also having this massive revival of faith,
and I think so much of that has to do
(25:33):
with voices like Charlie Kirk, like the Clay and Buck
show here, and so many other people that are tapping
into this spiritual crisis young people have had for several generations.
Now realizing we have to fight for what is good
and true and beautiful in culture, way more than we
ever fight for politics. And at the cornerstone of that
is reviving the American family. All of my friends are engaged, married,
(25:54):
or having babies. My best friend shout out to Savannah
had her baby last night, first baby, and it's just
so exciting to see that revival of family all across
our country led by gen Z.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I also think this is maybe a little bit of
an aside, but it's related. You know, they've walked back
and Bill Gates and others have walked back some of
the climate change doomerism stuff that's out there, and I
feel like they owe an apology to people. They managed
to convince some people this was a real thing. It's
(26:25):
hard to think that it could be, but it was
real that climate extinction or climate change extinction was so severe,
meaning that if people didn't stop stop having kids, we
would go extinct because we would overstress the resources of
the planet. It's a crazy idea, but they convince people
(26:46):
of that, Isabelle, and now they're like, yeah, maybe we
missed the mark on that a little bit.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Yeah, in case you didn't hear this, because Lord knows
the media didn't cover it. Just a few days ago,
Bill Gates came forward and said, yeah, oops, actually there
is no climate crisis anymore. We fixed it. Sorry to
have alarm you that we're all going to die in
literally twelve years. I mean, the propaganda is just insanity.
But I have to say, I'm just so encouraged to
see ordinary people, regardless of where you fall in the
(27:12):
political spectrum or what your personal deepest held values are,
realizing that life is meant.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
To be shared with the people that we love.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Just a few days ago, the Wall Street Journal came
to our house and covered my family on the cover
of the Wall Street Journal about the revival of the
American family and young women really tapping into this idea
that we can have thriving careers and entrepreneurship and some
of the girl boss culture without the toxic corporate element
to that. But more importantly, that means nothing if we
(27:40):
don't have our children to share it with in a
legacy to build upon which had resoundingly positive effects and
lots of great response from people. So I'm incredibly excited
about this family revival. My daughter means so much more
to me than any paycheck ever will and the response
I'm getting, even from young women on the very radical
left about this, that they're quitting their birth control, they're
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deleting their dating apps, they are desperate to find a
god fearing husband and wanting to build a family out
of the big city and restoring American roots of what
the American dream has always looked like.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I love to see it.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Can you can you just have a little conversation though,
with some of your female millennial peers. These oversized like
like dad jeans, they're not even dad jeans, They're they're
I don't know what they are, these giant jeans that
these women are walking around.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Am I wearing baggy jeans from the nineties right now?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yes? Yes, I am. You know what I'm all about it.
The mom jean has made a return.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
And my postpart of mom body is grateful for Ali.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Is she wearing?
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Ma Am I telling her to shut down the mom
jeans and she's wearing them right now in the studio.
Oh they're not like, okay, but they are these jeans
that I see these young women wearing. I'm like, you
might as well be wearing a burka. I'm just saying
this is crazy talk, but apparently some of you think
they're comfortable. I'm not a fashion guy. I sit here
(29:00):
in a T shirt, but I know it's.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Funny you say Burka. I actually saw several burkas in
the wild in Washington, d C. A few days ago,
so sadly here in New York where I am too,
I think that will probably be one of the next
fashion statements if we don't bring back a classic cut
bootcut gene.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I'm all about the classic American gene. All right, Isabel Brown,
Isabel Brown show, go check it out. Everybody, and Isabelle,
thank you for being here with us. Great to talk
to you. Thanks for coming to hang with the team
in New York.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Merry Christmas, everybody, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We are
live and it's always in motion. On this show.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
We have a surprise guest in our New York City studio.
I don't even know who it is. I truly do not.
They just said he's miked up. So, sir, mystery guest,
you are on the air. I'm holding a book.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
It's called balls, and you have to have a lot
of those to write that book and call that title.
How Trump young Men in Sports Saved America? Right there?
Of course, that would be Clay Travis's book, claim Buck,
what's going on? Man? Good to talk to you all.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Good, We're good And mister mister Sean Hannity, it is fantastic.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Have you with this.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I've I've been hearing a little bit that my buddy
Clay here he owes you a little money. He's like
turning into the guy who runs away in the Bronx tail.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
You know me thousands, you know. The ironic part is
Clay he's way more knowledgeable in sports than I am.
Although I love sports, and like everybody else, I find
it a great distraction. But I love our gladiator of
sports in particular, love UFC. I love football, I love
ice hockey. I'm a big Florida Panthers fan of seasons tickets.
(30:43):
And what I love is that he'll be on TV
or we'll be on this show. We'll just be talking
and I'll say, who do you think is gonna win?
And I always take the other team and he always loses. Wow,
always wrong.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Reverse the reverse cloth if I had been on and
we had been going back and forth over Alabama Georgia.
I did hit my bloodbank guarantee on Georgia. I know
you've got Alabama connections.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
That was a.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Beatdown that the Bulldogs put on the Teah.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
But I didn't take that bet because I know I'm
gonna lose. I'm like I just when you know somebody's
gonna lose, you don't make that bet. You just don't.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
John, do you have do you have a Super Bowl
prediction that you always make or are you willing to
make one now on the air, Clay, do you have one?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Since I have both of you.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Super Bowls a little bit early to make that prediction,
but I do think Uh, I don't know. I honestly
would love to see the New England Patriots back in it.
Maybe I'm an oddball out on this. I've known Robert
Kraft for decades, so I like him personally and he
is a great, great guy. He recently sent me a
pair of sneakers. You know, we wear sneakers all the time.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I saw him Sean at the FIFA event. He was
there for the World Cup draw.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
So I would like to see them get back. I
think they can. They might have found the next Tom Brady.
This guy heay wait.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I also had Sean do you talk about soccer on
your show at all? Because Noway hijacked the show last
week for like an hour to talk about FIFA, which
Ali calls Faifa.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Which.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Ali's not that wrong.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
You know.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
The ironic part is I was always a good athlete
in school before I once had a shoulder injury, a
rotator cuff injury. I always had a slingshot arm. I
was a pitcher in baseball. Love sports, and I was,
you know, and then because it was a small school,
they my teachers were the coaches of the teams, and
(32:42):
it was soccer, and then it was basketball, and then
it was baseball. Baseball I liked the most at the time.
But I was always a hockey player too, And they
are like, okay, you can play. You're going to play,
or you're going to fail. So I had a choice.
But it did improve my grades in high school. I
would play these sports. They made me play soccer for
(33:03):
four years in high school and I hated it.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
And not only position real quick center half.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Back, which means if you run up and down the
field and then like in between periods, I'd be smoking
a cigarette.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Sean Hannity, He'll be on on many of these stations,
pretty much all of them right after US. Sean, I'll
get to you next time I see a promise. Money's coming,
all
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Right, super Bowl bet coming, super Bowl Bet'll take it.
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