January 9, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show kicks off with a packed agenda, blending breaking news, economic analysis, and global affairs. The discussion opens with new details on the ICE-involved shooting in Minneapolis, where a left-wing activist attempting to obstruct a federal immigration raid was fatally shot. Clay and Buck argue the shooting was justified, citing video evidence and the officer’s prior experience of being dragged by a suspect during a similar encounter. They criticize Mayor Jacob Frey and Governor Tim Walz for inflammatory rhetoric and highlight how Democrat leaders and activists are trying to replicate the chaos of the George Floyd era. The hosts underscore the hypocrisy of progressive narratives, noting that Minneapolis—once considered a safe city—saw its murder rate double during the height of BLM protests, with 94 murders in 2020 and 95 in 2021 compared to 48 in 2019.
The conversation then pivots to Chuck Schumer’s call to remove ICE from city streets, which Clay and Buck dismantle by comparing ICE operations to other law enforcement agencies like U.S. Marshals and gang units. They stress that enforcing immigration law is essential for public safety and argue that Democrat policies have emboldened lawlessness. The hosts also emphasize a simple but critical message: compliance with law enforcement prevents unnecessary tragedies.
On the economic front, the show delivers optimistic news: Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent projects a potential Trump-era economic boom, with fourth-quarter GDP whisper numbers reaching 5.5% to 6%—levels of growth rarely seen in U.S. history. Clay and Buck explain how tariffs, balanced budgets, and record-high stock market performance signal unprecedented prosperity ahead. They caution, however, that public perception lags behind economic indicators, making communication a key challenge for the Trump administration in 2026.
Global affairs also take center stage as the hosts analyze Iran’s escalating protests, now in their 13th consecutive day amid soaring inflation and currency collapse. Clay and Buck credit Trump’s maximum-pressure strategy for weakening the regime and debunk myths from the Obama-Biden era that appeasement would stabilize the Middle East. They argue that eliminating Iran’s nuclear capabilities was essential for regional security and note that many Arab nations privately supported Trump’s strikes despite public posturing.
Hour 1 closes by framing Minneapolis as a cultural flashpoint for the woke mind virus, exposing the failures of progressive leadership and the real-world consequences of anti-police activism. From ICE enforcement controversies to economic optimism and foreign policy wins, this hour delivers sharp insights into the issues shaping America’s future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Friday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
kicks off right now, and we got a lot of
news to talk about. It's also Friday, so we're just
gonna have some fun too. Clay made me reminded me
it's like Friday, Buck, let's have fun. I say, sir,
your wish is my command. It's been a hell of
a crazy week, honestly, so let's have some fun headed
(00:23):
into the weekend. Clay is el cappy tan of fun,
so we know that he likes. The guy likes to
have a good time. So we're gonna dive into all
this stuff and we're going to take a lot of
your calls and your talkbacks everything else. It's another day
where we got to do it, my friends, Let's do
it right now. Dhs oh boy says Border patrol agent
(00:45):
fired a defensive shot after a driver linked to trend
Aragua try to run over federal agents. Another vehicle attacking
officers situation, this one I believe non fatal in this year,
but another another time bullets fired and this one an
(01:06):
illegal gang member. And guess what in Oregon where this
happened specifically, I think it was southeastern Portland, which if
you want a sense of the zombie apocalypse, my understanding,
Clay is, you can go to downtown Portland day or
night and you'll see it.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It's down there. That really mentioned this too.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
By the way, on Portland, we need to get out
to Portland at some point. We've got a great affiliate there.
I know a lot of you feel like you're behind
enemy lines.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
On the context of what would an impact of the
zombie apocalypse like Portland create, Portland was all set to
get a major League Baseball team. Now Salt Lake City
is going to get I really believe the major League
Baseball expansion team might sound like a small thing, but
since COVID and the drug overdose allowance and all of
(01:56):
the collapse of downtown Portland, they have effectively we started
to lose big symbolic things such as a major League
Baseball team, and now Salt Lake City's gonna get it,
just because Utah is not as crazy as Oregon. Sorry
to cut you off there, but I do think that's
sort of a representative sample of how lost the city
(02:16):
of Portland has become.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So we've got that story to dive into.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
We've got maniacs and fully Square where I remember fifteen
years ago covering the Occupy Wall Street protests for the Blaze,
they used to gather and fully Square often some of
the offshoots of that protest movement, leftist maniacs play. They
were chanting, quote christin Nome will hang end quote. That
(02:44):
is a very stupid thing to say, and certainly a
stupid thing to be chanting on video, threatening violence against
a cabinet official, a federal agent, that is. But it
gives you a sense of the kind of people that
show up at these protests. We'll discuss that Trump's saying.
And I believe this was on a This is A
with our friend Shawn last night, right, it was on
Hannity Show.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I'm just seeing the headline here.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Trump's saying that the United States is gonna conduct strikes
against cartels in Mexico, not to be confused with New
Mexico clay in Mexico, which is that's gonna get spicy
if we start doing that.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm not saying
it's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I'm just saying it's gonna get interesting if we start
trying to take out serious cartel members. And look, they've
been poisoning Americans for decades. We got that Clay, We've
got Chuck Schumer throwing ice under the bus. No surprise,
they're more on the woman who was shot in Minneapolis.
She was an Ice watch warrior is what they call this. Yah,
(03:48):
She's an activist and she was trying to obstruct law enforcement.
That's become clear. I actually wanted to throw this into
the mix though, just as a little bit of a
changeup ties into Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Clar Scott Bessant, one of the all stars of this administration,
has done a really good job both in the messaging,
I believe, and on the policy side. And there's some
really there's some reasons to be very bullish about the economy.
Listen to the Secretary of the Treasury, who is a
very serious, very smart guy who can read a balance sheet,
(04:21):
understands macroeconomics, understands finance at the highest level. Listen to
what he says is the scale of straight up fraud
with taxpayer dollars at stake in this country.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Play cut one.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I think that this may just be it's cold dale outside,
so this could be the tip of the iceberg here
in Minnesota, but it's probably may not be as prevalent,
but the dollars may be bigger and larger in other states.
And just to put this in perspective for American taxpayers,
for American families, the GAO, the General Accounting Office, believe
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that there is somewhere between I mean three and six
hundred billion of annual fraud, roughly ten percent of government
spending that disappears due to fraud. If we can recapture that,
that is one to two percent.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Of GDP.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Clay up to six hundred billion dollars of fraud annually.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's wild.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And what he said there is something that I think
you need to start to focus on. I think we're
gonna get phenomenal fourth quarter GDP numbers. Uh Now, partly
the GDP numbers are out of whack in the post
COVID era because they shut everything down, then they opened
everything back up, and so I really think you kind
of have to toss out the twenty twenty twenty twenty
(05:44):
one numbers because they're a mess. But there are some
whisper numbers out there that we're gonna hit five and
a half percent GDP, maybe even six percent GDP in
the fourth quarter. That's unprecedented levels of economic expansion. If
we could hit five and a half or six percent
of GDP as we roll into now the new year,
(06:06):
because obviously the numbers are looking back in terms of
catching up. We're talking about budgets getting balanced in potentially
rapid fashion because the overall tax rates that are brought
in in conjunction with the tariffs and everything else. It's
unprecedented the amount of growth that we could potentially be
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able to be firing on all cylinders associated with. So
this is a number that I would tell everybody out
there you should be paying attention to. I would also
say this stock market continues to hit record highs. Stock
market tends to look about six months or a year
into the future. Wall Street is expecting twenty twenty six
to be one of the greatest years economically that we
(06:50):
have seen, maybe ever in the history of the nation.
And you mentioned this, and I think it's important to
go back in time to February.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Of twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I would argue February of twenty twenty is the strongest
economy this country has ever had in the history of
its existence. And then COVID happened. If COVID hadn't happened,
we were headed for unbelievable numbers. I mean, if you
go back and look at the GDP growth, if you
look at tiny inflation mortgage rates that were basically non existent,
(07:23):
I think we are setting up for a incredible Trump
boom that a lot of people are not recognizing is
going to happen. One of the challenges that I think
of a communication perspective that the Trump team is going
to have in twenty twenty six is it takes a
while for people to feel the ground moving in a
(07:46):
positive direction economically for them. And I understand that, and
that's particularly the case in the wake of the disastrous
economic policies of Joe Biden. But you can seem out
of touch when you say, hey, things are getting a
lot better better and people say, well, wait, I don't
feel it yet. It takes a lagging indicator for people
to feel how good the economy was. And it actually
(08:08):
took to about twenty twenty, twenty nineteen and Trump one
point oh buck for everybody out there to suddenly say,
wait a minute, this economy is on fire. I really
am super optimistic that we are headed for that. As
long as we can keep China from dropping a new
remix virus back into the economic creation.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Let's certainly hope.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So, speaking of foreign situations, Iran is heating up right
now internally a lot, and there's footage that's circulating of
big protests in the streets. Now, maybe this goes you know,
I'm very generally wait and see about all things Iran
(08:51):
because we've been waiting and seeing for I'm trying to do
the math in my head.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Right, forty years forty basically.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, forty years forty years of any day now, any
day now, and not really, but there are indicators that
the regime is under tremendous pressure. I would also note, Clay,
remember when the Obama administration was in power and we
were told the only way to pacify the Middle East
and to calm things down with some grand bargain that
(09:19):
allows Iran access to international banking, relieve sanctions, lets it
continue traditional ballistic missile research and get close, very close
but not quite at a nuclear weapon level of nuclear research.
Remember all that that was completely insane and wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I mean the more importantly it was wrong. I think
everyone can see this.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
We blew up the Iranian welld the Israelis and then
US blew up the Iranian nuclear reactors.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
No World War three broke out.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
There weren't mass casualty terrorist attacks all over the world.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Going to Sunni Arab Muslim allies in the region.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Like, yes, I know things have changed a lot since
nine eleven, but places, whether it's the Saudis or the
Jordanians or any and all in between. To box Iran
in was actually a smart strategy that being basically clay.
Being nice to the Mullahs is an idiotic idea. They
are bad guys doing bad things, and the only way
(10:26):
to deal with them is pressure and pain from policy.
There's no concessions we make that make them nice. That
was a delusion that the Obama and Biden regimes instituted. Yeah,
and look I was reading again. It's kind of hard
to see what's going on in Iran right now because
they have completely shut down internet and cell phone access
(10:50):
basically in the entire part of the country, and we're
moving up on thirteen days of consecutive protests which seem
to be growing there. It's all fueled by economic anger.
The rate of inflation has gone through the roof in Iran,
and effectively their currency is valueless, and that is a
direct result of the pressure that President Trump has brought
(11:13):
to bear economically on that country. And buck, I think
it's even worse than what some people said, this will
cause World War three. Thousands of American troops will die.
That's what a lot of people said would happen if
we attack their nuclear capacities. It's actually not just that
they were wrong about the awful results that might ensue,
it's that actually it made us all safer. It actually
(11:37):
was I think the prerequisite of there being some form
of safety in the Middle East. In other words, you
had to eliminate that danger from Iran and the theocratic rulers,
the Ayatola and company being able to have nuclear weapons
in order for there to be peace capable of breaking
out in the Middle East. And remember, remember this is
(11:58):
super significant. Pay attention to what people do, not what
they say. Most of the countries in the Middle East
actually supported Trump's strikes on Iran. The Saudi Arabia, is,
the Uaes, the Qatars. They may say publicly, oh, this
is unacceptable. Privately they're all saying to the United States
and even Israel through back channels. Hey, we support you
(12:21):
on these attacks. We're all about this. We will get
into more of this and also the latest from the worst. Certainly,
I think we could say the worst mayor in the Midwest.
Oh no, Brandon Johnson. I was gonna say, Jacob Fray
has got fry. Sorry, I think he d worse. I
think he may be worse than Brandon Johnson.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
And this is tough. I hate to say it. It
is a tough call. You know. It's like what's worth
so a heart attack, get it hit by a car.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I don't know. They're both really bad. These guys are
both really bad mayors. So it's it's a tough call.
But we'll get into what's going on with the Ice situation.
I think they're going to run out of steam on this,
and I think a big part of it is there's video.
The video show is what happened. The ICE agent had
already been attacked and dragged by someone in a.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Car doing something like this.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Uh and as you point out, how was a trained
aggressor who wanted to provoke a reaction. Her partner was
filming the whole thing like this was a setup. She
didn't expect it would go this bad, and certainly we
don't want anyone to die. We're anti death on this show.
And she's white and deranged. Leftists just can't get that
upset about stra a white person being killed. It's just true.
(13:32):
I mean, that's there. It's their moral failing, not all.
They're the ones that make this distinction. Like I think,
it's just terrible if a human being is killed under
you know, the under circumstances where they should fancy death.
We want long as possible. It's a strong take here
for the start of the Friday show. We're antibody. We
(13:53):
don't have more than us who disagrees with us on
that one. We do not like people losing their lives
for no good reason. So but we don't make distinctions
based upon skin color on that the left does. For
for a leftist in America today, if a black person
is killed in a situation of any political implication or consequence,
(14:13):
it is far bigger, a far bigger deal to them
than when other people are killed, just the truth involving
law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
That that is the way that it is, as we know.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Just look at all all the BLM BLM, BLM doesn't
get upset unless it's a person who is a person
of well, a black person specifically, not just a person
of color.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
So that's why I think this is gonna fizzle out
a bit in the days ahead, but we'll see all right.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
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your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
We are by the way, going to head up to Minneapolis.
She's on the ground. Becca Breca Stole, who works at
The Daily Wire, is up in Minneapolis right now and
she is going to join us at the top of
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the next hour. And she interviewed a woman. Do we
have this interview that she did of a crazy woman?
Let's play this to kind of give you a little
bit of a preview of that. And also we're going
to be joined by Brionna Lyman in the third hours.
Two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of America's founding. Brianna came
on a little bit ago. She is a superstory nerd.
(16:29):
Today is the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the
publication of Common Sense, so we will talk about that.
We'll have some fun nerding out on that. But here's
cut three Brecastal of the Daily Wire interviewing a woman
at a protest.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
I'm just walking here. I'm kind of just dayside because
I got it. I was like, I don't know if
it's the rightything to do. It feels kind of wrong
being here in some way. I don't know why. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know, like where that sentence from, Like,
I don't I mean, part of it is being like
(17:04):
a white woman that I'm privileged, and I have a
lot of privilege. So I feel like white tears are
not always something that's helpful or necessary when black and
brown people have been experiencing this for a long time.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I just these people's brains are broken, Buck, But it's clay.
It's like Marxist jargon, which I go.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Into some detail about in my book Manufacturing Delution, coming
out in about a month.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
This is trained, like she's been trained to speak this way.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
No normal person says, I don't think that white tears
are what what do you see in the concept of
white tears is not something that a normal person. It's
not a phrase that exists. The black tears exist, the
brown tears is people. There's just tears. There's actually something
that just should unite us all as human beings, which
is that tears are sad, and all human tears should
be sad. But they've created a higher you know who
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in here to Clay and Buck Show. Let's give you
the latest on the Minnesota Ice shooting. I do not
think that this is going to continue to be something
that the left mobilizes around beyond this weekend. I could
be wrong, but I'm already getting the sense that the
(19:09):
pieces are not what they need to be to even
if they're going to misrepresent it get what they want
out of it. Right, It's never what the facts are,
it's are there enough facts in play that counter the
narrative they want to create that it takes just takes
the heat out of the situation.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I think we're pretty close to that.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
So that's a different level here than where they thought
we would be here, though, is the mayor of I mean,
this guy he is.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Such he is such a loathsome coward.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I there are so many other words play I would
like to use, but it is a family show and
we have FCC rules, so I cannot use those words.
But all of you know what words I would like
to use. Those are the words. This guy is the
absolute worst. To go and cry. Imagine showing up at
(20:04):
a funeral for someone you don't know who happens to
also have been a career felon. Who happens to be
somebody who held a gun at the belly of a
pregnant woman during a home invasion and threatened to shoot her.
George Floyd sang, George Floyd, Now, if you're a lunatic democrat,
imagine going to someone's funeral like that Clay as a
(20:26):
public figure and bending the knee and crying.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
At the casket.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
What a footage of him dancing at the Somali events,
And I mean, I just so much. The kids like
to use the word cringe, and I think it's kind
of a perfect explanation of Jacob Fry. Everything about him
(20:52):
is just indicative of us as a country often having
the worst among us as political leaders. I mean, this
guy is you know, you've talked about this some on
air and some off air. There are a lot of
people that sadly are in positions of political prominence that
couldn't be successful in the real world in other jobs.
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And I look at him and I say, you know,
the job pays one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars
a year, right to debase yourself and destroy a great
American city in order to perpetuate lies. Can we have
a more honest conversation about the entire George Floyd joke
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and the fact that they're trying to replicate it now
because they want cities to burn, and they want chaos
and they want disorder, and the fact that Minnesota has
become the cultural flashpoint of the collapse. I think of
sanity in America is I know, for many Minnesotans who
are listening to us right now, you wouldn't have bet
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on this in the eighties. You wouldn't have bet on
this in the seventies. I think Minnesota right now has
the worst leadership and the craziest political trajectory of any
state in America, even worse than California, even worse than
New York, even worse than Illinois. It's indefensible what has
been allowed to occur there over the last eight or
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ten years. And Jacob Fry here this is cut two.
Here he is saying, Now, now keep in mind when
he said this, I guess it was January eighth.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Does there have been eight.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Days in the calendar year so far? So this is
the way this guy sets this up. Listen, listen to cut.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Two fifty percent of the shootings that have happened thus
far in Minneapolis this year has been ice. In other words,
we've only had two shootings, one of them has been ice.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
We are a safe city.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Ice is making it less so we are a city
of unity, but ICE is trying to divide us and
tear us apart. For every one of the people that
you see standing here behind me, they have more than
a thousand people behind them. They have people that are
committed to their neighbors, committed to integrity, committed to justice,
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and committed to getting the truth.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Clay Minneapolis, just so everyone can have a little reminder here,
had almost one hundred homicides in twenty twenty one during
the Saint George Floyd reckoning. Almost one hundred. Now that's
that doesn't sound like a lot by say New York
City standards. How big is Minneapolis as a city. I
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don't know what is half a million people? Maybe something
I'm guessing if you're now sometimes whether you're counting a
county like the metropolitan area as a part of that,
it is just the city. I think this is just
a stat from the Minneapolis City PD. So my point
is Clay, Yeah, fifty percent of the shootings, because it's
like the year just started, and what is that even?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
What does that even mean? Why is that relevant here?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
If there was a cop that was involved in a
shooting because and it was a lawful shoot, there's no
what cas is he making here that law enforcement can't
protect themselves. I sit and I wonder who could vote
for this guy and not understand that they are part
of the problem. That this moron has ruined Minneapolis in
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every way that he can and really made it a
place that people feel sorry for now, and there's no
sense of remorse over this from him at all.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
This is interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I'm pulling up on Grock the overall data of murders
four hundred thousand. By the way, I wasn't that far.
Four hundred thousand people in Minneapolis. They had the nineties,
they peaked at ninety seven homicides, and then it went
down substantially and then spiked hugely after the twenty twenty
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George Full protests. And what I would say about it
in general is, first of all, this is a perfect
example of only we only have two shootings and fifty
percent of them are from ice. I would also almost
guarantee that the rate of murder in Minneapolis overwhelmingly corresponds
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with summer skyrocketing. Right in January, I bet the number
of shootings that happen in Minneapolis because it's so cold
and people are not out on the streets. If you've
got to be really dedicated, because you're gonna have to
put on that ski parka, you're gonna have to you're
gonna have to put the snowshoes on.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So the most down the drive by a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
This is actually buck why I think there's not gonna
be a lasting result of the shooting.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
And by ice.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
First of all, it's justified and they're gonna fight over it,
and it's going to continue to diminish. But it's super cold,
and so I think the number of people that are
gonna be willing to get out in the streets in
Minneapolis in January and protest is going to dwindle as
the temperature is just brutal and you're going to be
standing out there. So I think that's going to diminish.
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But yes, look, I bet seventy five percent of the
shootings that take place, murders that take place in Minneapolis,
I bet happened between May and October. I would just
bet in the summer, when kids are back out on
the streets more so, when people are moving around outside
way more In general, the number of murders all over
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the country is way lower in the winter than it
is in the summer. But I bet it's on steroids
that data when it comes to Minneapolis. So I just
think this is indicative of total failure, that this guy
is the leader, and that his superior to the extent
(26:51):
you want to say it is Tim Walls. Tim Walls
is not a smart guybuck, I mean, he is not
an intelligent You just leave aside politic and compare watching
Tim Walls respond to questions with JD Vance yesterday. There
is thirty point iq difference between JD Vance and Tim Walls.
I bet maybe even more substantial. Well, that reminds us
(27:14):
all of the VP debate, remember yes where JD ran
such circles around Walls that you actually kind of felt
maybe a little bad for Walls. And I think JD
felt a little bad for Walls. Guys just not not
up for the big stage in any meaningful way. And
I think that Kamala and this came across as I'm
a chief comologist on the show. Kamala wanted Walls because
(27:39):
she didn't want somebody that was clearly smarter and more
capable than her, which would have been the mayor, I mean,
the governor of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
That's what that was. It actually was, I don't want.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
To be outshown or outshined or however you say that. Yeah,
and the downside here is, and I think this is
You may have seen the meme, but I think it's
one hundred percent accurate. Barack Obama said I need VP
dumber than me. Joe Biden. Joe Biden said I need
a VP dumber than me. Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris said
I need a VP dumber than me. Tim Walls. Every
step since then, whatever you think of Obama's way smarter
(28:11):
than Kamala, way smarter than Joe Biden, and way smarter
than Tim Walls on every step there, Democrats got dumber.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And I think this is.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
One big part of the Trump two point zero that
isn't getting talked about enough. Whatever you think about them,
jd Vance, Marco Rubio, and Pete hag Seth are all
smart guys, way smarter than the average media member who
is covering them. And obviously Trump is a smart guy too,
But I think the intellectual theft of Marco jd and
(28:42):
HEG Seth is probably higher than we have seen in
a very very long time when it comes to the
top echelon governmental leaders that we have.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I think it's a big difference.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Now. Chuck Schumer is crafty. He's crafty, for sure. I
don't think he sure is a dumb guy. Say he's
not a dumb guy, but I'm not really sure what
he thinks he's gonna what he thinks he's gonna be
able to do with this one. Here he is speaking
out on this ice shooting, saying that we shouldn't have
(29:16):
ice agents patrolling our streets.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Play for the bottom.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
Line is very simple. We should not have ice agents
patrolling our streets. They're not needed, They create chaos, and
they even create deaths. The mayor of Minneapolis didn't want them,
so many other cities didn't. This is sort of Trump
strutting around. But if they don't belong in our cities,
plain and simple, we need a full investigation here as
(29:41):
to what happened.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Think about this logic play applied to any other law
enforcement agency. US marshals have a really good reputation among
the law enforcement communities, I will say, and I used
to work in a shared sort of co located fusion
center with some with some US marshals. You know, they
go after high threat felons, right, They'll go after people
(30:07):
who have you know, jumped, like jump bail, felon, stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Basically they do.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
The manhunt stuff out there. Sometimes they have to go
into a residence, guns drawn, kicking in the door, wrestling
people in.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Sometimes they have to shoot.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Now is that their fault or is it the fault
of the people who are the law breakers who have
you know, fled, you know, whether they've escaped from prison
or they've jumped bail or whatever is they've done.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Right, So my point here is.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
On ice, they're blaming law enforcement for enforcing the law
and not the people breaking the law necessitating the law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I mean, you could do this with gang units.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
There are some very high profile gang units that have
been deployed in the the plane plain Clothes unit in
New York, which oh gosh, I don't know, I mean,
de Blasio rid of it, or try to get rid
of it. I'm sure Mom, Donnie will get rid of it.
But Clay sometimes they have to tackle very bad people
to the street, and sometimes that means they get a
concussion or there's you know, it's a scuffle and it's nasty,
(31:11):
and occasionally they might have to draw their repon and
shoot somebody. Is that their fault or is it the
fault of the gang member felons that don't want to
get caught. Yeah, and look, I think you can build
even more on this Minneapolis situation, buck In that this
is what they wanted to happen. They have been trying
to provoke, They have been trying to create situations that
(31:34):
lead to more violence. This is why, in the wake
of the BLM stuff, I sat down with my boys,
and I imagine most of you out there with your
kids and grandkids. I said, look, I'm a lawyer. Sometimes
a police officer might ask you to do something that
you don't want to do, or that you might be
concerned about, you know, doing. Always listen to a police officer.
(31:55):
They are imperfect. They may give you awful suggestions. But
the way to ensure that we have less police shootings
is actually just comply with police officer instructions. If that woman.
First of all, she should have never been at the
ice event. But if that woman had just listened when
that police saw that Ice officer came up and said,
(32:17):
roll down your window, open your door. If she had
just listened to the police officer, the ice official there,
none of this would have ever heard if she had
just complied with those instructions instead of trying to floor
it and roar out of there after she blocked the
Parkeder car perpendicularly and tried to impinge the ability to
do the job there, Clay, if I'm pulled over by
(32:41):
a cop. If I'm pulled over, let's say, by a
state trooper on the side of the highway, and he says,
get out of your car, and I get out of
my car, and I quickly moved my hands toward my waistband,
and he says, show me your hands, show me your hands,
and I don't show them my hands. I keep reaching
and then I make a fast movement towards him.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
He's lawfully allowed to shoot me.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yes, because we cannot ask a state trooper or any cop,
or any law enforcement to wait until the bullet passes
through their shoulder or their chest before they actually get
to draw and use their weapon.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
That's just the way it is, yes, which is why comply. Comply. Comply.
I'm a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
If somebody does something that is an inappropriate, illegal search, seizure,
or whatever it is, you can challenge that in a
court when you're alive. I've said this for a long time.
I've said it to my own boys. I would say
it to your kids. I would say it to your grandkids.
If a police officer asks you to do something, do it,
even if you think that is not what you would
(33:45):
prefer to do. It's my advice to my kids. We
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your podcasts. Welcome back in Play Travis Bucks Extant Show.
I asked Brock during that commercial break because I wanted
to look up the data Minneapolis, because again I think
Minneapolis has become the cultural flashpoint in many ways of
(35:12):
the woke mind virus in this country. In twenty nineteen,
Minneapolis had forty eight murders. In twenty twenty and twenty
twenty one, that is, during the George Floyd protests, and
the year after the George Floyd put protests, the murder
rate effectively doubled in Minneapolis. So Black Lives Matter has
(35:35):
nowhere in America. Are they more on the ground active
than Minneapolis, and it led to more black deaths, primarily
ninety four murders in twenty twenty ninety five murders in
twenty twenty one, so they doubled the number of murders
that were taking place there. Last year, Minneapolis had sixty
(35:58):
four murders. So they still are up substantially on murders
even five years after the George Floyd incident. So if
you really want to kind of analyze what the impact
was of BLM, BLM led to interestingly and ironically and unfortunately,
far more Black people dying than would have died if
(36:21):
BLM had never existed at all. Because they decided police
were the bad guys. Police weren't able to catch the
actual bad guys, and as a result, the murder rates
skyrocketed all over the country, but Minneapolis in particular, with
Jacob Fry as their mayor and with Minnesota being led
by Tim Walls, they failed on an epic level. That's
(36:43):
what the data reflects. When we come back, we'll go
up to Minneapolis with Breca Stole next
Welcome in everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Friday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
kicks off right now, and we got a lot of
news to talk about. It's also Friday, so we're just
gonna have some fun too. Clay made me reminded me
it's like Friday, Buck, let's have fun. I say, sir,
your wish is my command. It's been a hell of
a crazy week, honestly, so let's have some fun headed
(00:23):
into the weekend. Clay is el cappy tan of fun,
so we know that he likes. The guy likes to
have a good time. So we're gonna dive into all
this stuff and we're going to take a lot of
your calls and your talkbacks everything else. It's another day
where we got to do it, my friends, Let's do
it right now. Dhs oh boy says Border patrol agent
(00:45):
fired a defensive shot after a driver linked to trend
Aragua try to run over federal agents. Another vehicle attacking
officers situation, this one I believe non fatal in this year,
but another another time bullets fired and this one an
(01:06):
illegal gang member. And guess what in Oregon where this
happened specifically, I think it was southeastern Portland, which if
you want a sense of the zombie apocalypse, my understanding,
Clay is, you can go to downtown Portland day or
night and you'll see it.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It's down there. That really mentioned this too.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
By the way, on Portland, we need to get out
to Portland at some point. We've got a great affiliate there.
I know a lot of you feel like you're behind
enemy lines.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
On the context of what would an impact of the
zombie apocalypse like Portland create, Portland was all set to
get a major League Baseball team. Now Salt Lake City
is going to get I really believe the major League
Baseball expansion team might sound like a small thing, but
since COVID and the drug overdose allowance and all of
(01:56):
the collapse of downtown Portland, they have effectively we started
to lose big symbolic things such as a major League
Baseball team, and now Salt Lake City's gonna get it,
just because Utah is not as crazy as Oregon. Sorry
to cut you off there, but I do think that's
sort of a representative sample of how lost the city
(02:16):
of Portland has become.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So we've got that story to dive into.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
We've got maniacs and fully Square where I remember fifteen
years ago covering the Occupy Wall Street protests for the Blaze,
they used to gather and fully Square often some of
the offshoots of that protest movement, leftist maniacs play. They
were chanting, quote christin Nome will hang end quote. That
(02:44):
is a very stupid thing to say, and certainly a
stupid thing to be chanting on video, threatening violence against
a cabinet official, a federal agent, that is. But it
gives you a sense of the kind of people that
show up at these protests. We'll discuss that Trump's saying.
And I believe this was on a This is A
with our friend Shawn last night, right, it was on
Hannity Show.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I'm just seeing the headline here.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Trump's saying that the United States is gonna conduct strikes
against cartels in Mexico, not to be confused with New
Mexico clay in Mexico, which is that's gonna get spicy
if we start doing that.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm not saying
it's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I'm just saying it's gonna get interesting if we start
trying to take out serious cartel members. And look, they've
been poisoning Americans for decades. We got that Clay, We've
got Chuck Schumer throwing ice under the bus. No surprise,
they're more on the woman who was shot in Minneapolis.
She was an Ice watch warrior is what they call this. Yah,
(03:48):
She's an activist and she was trying to obstruct law enforcement.
That's become clear. I actually wanted to throw this into
the mix though, just as a little bit of a
changeup ties into Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Clar Scott Bessant, one of the all stars of this administration,
has done a really good job both in the messaging,
I believe, and on the policy side. And there's some
really there's some reasons to be very bullish about the economy.
Listen to the Secretary of the Treasury, who is a
very serious, very smart guy who can read a balance sheet,
(04:21):
understands macroeconomics, understands finance at the highest level. Listen to
what he says is the scale of straight up fraud
with taxpayer dollars at stake in this country.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Play cut one.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I think that this may just be it's cold dale outside,
so this could be the tip of the iceberg here
in Minnesota, but it's probably may not be as prevalent,
but the dollars may be bigger and larger in other states.
And just to put this in perspective for American taxpayers,
for American families, the GAO, the General Accounting Office, believe
(04:58):
that there is somewhere between I mean three and six
hundred billion of annual fraud, roughly ten percent of government
spending that disappears due to fraud. If we can recapture that,
that is one to two percent.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Of GDP.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Clay up to six hundred billion dollars of fraud annually.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's wild.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And what he said there is something that I think
you need to start to focus on. I think we're
gonna get phenomenal fourth quarter GDP numbers. Uh Now, partly
the GDP numbers are out of whack in the post
COVID era because they shut everything down, then they opened
everything back up, and so I really think you kind
of have to toss out the twenty twenty twenty twenty
(05:44):
one numbers because they're a mess. But there are some
whisper numbers out there that we're gonna hit five and
a half percent GDP, maybe even six percent GDP in
the fourth quarter. That's unprecedented levels of economic expansion. If
we could hit five and a half or six percent
of GDP as we roll into now the new year,
(06:06):
because obviously the numbers are looking back in terms of
catching up. We're talking about budgets getting balanced in potentially
rapid fashion because the overall tax rates that are brought
in in conjunction with the tariffs and everything else. It's
unprecedented the amount of growth that we could potentially be
(06:29):
able to be firing on all cylinders associated with. So
this is a number that I would tell everybody out
there you should be paying attention to. I would also
say this stock market continues to hit record highs. Stock
market tends to look about six months or a year
into the future. Wall Street is expecting twenty twenty six
to be one of the greatest years economically that we
(06:50):
have seen, maybe ever in the history of the nation.
And you mentioned this, and I think it's important to
go back in time to February.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Of twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I would argue February of twenty twenty is the strongest
economy this country has ever had in the history of
its existence. And then COVID happened. If COVID hadn't happened,
we were headed for unbelievable numbers. I mean, if you
go back and look at the GDP growth, if you
look at tiny inflation mortgage rates that were basically non existent,
(07:23):
I think we are setting up for a incredible Trump
boom that a lot of people are not recognizing is
going to happen. One of the challenges that I think
of a communication perspective that the Trump team is going
to have in twenty twenty six is it takes a
while for people to feel the ground moving in a
(07:46):
positive direction economically for them. And I understand that, and
that's particularly the case in the wake of the disastrous
economic policies of Joe Biden. But you can seem out
of touch when you say, hey, things are getting a
lot better better and people say, well, wait, I don't
feel it yet. It takes a lagging indicator for people
to feel how good the economy was. And it actually
(08:08):
took to about twenty twenty, twenty nineteen and Trump one
point oh buck for everybody out there to suddenly say,
wait a minute, this economy is on fire. I really
am super optimistic that we are headed for that. As
long as we can keep China from dropping a new
remix virus back into the economic creation.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Let's certainly hope.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So, speaking of foreign situations, Iran is heating up right
now internally a lot, and there's footage that's circulating of
big protests in the streets. Now, maybe this goes you know,
I'm very generally wait and see about all things Iran
(08:51):
because we've been waiting and seeing for I'm trying to do
the math in my head.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Right, forty years forty basically.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, forty years forty years of any day now, any
day now, and not really, but there are indicators that
the regime is under tremendous pressure. I would also note, Clay,
remember when the Obama administration was in power and we
were told the only way to pacify the Middle East
and to calm things down with some grand bargain that
(09:19):
allows Iran access to international banking, relieve sanctions, lets it
continue traditional ballistic missile research and get close, very close
but not quite at a nuclear weapon level of nuclear research.
Remember all that that was completely insane and wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I mean the more importantly it was wrong. I think
everyone can see this.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
We blew up the Iranian welld the Israelis and then
US blew up the Iranian nuclear reactors.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
No World War three broke out.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
There weren't mass casualty terrorist attacks all over the world.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Going to Sunni Arab Muslim allies in the region.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Like, yes, I know things have changed a lot since
nine eleven, but places, whether it's the Saudis or the
Jordanians or any and all in between. To box Iran
in was actually a smart strategy that being basically clay.
Being nice to the Mullahs is an idiotic idea. They
are bad guys doing bad things, and the only way
(10:26):
to deal with them is pressure and pain from policy.
There's no concessions we make that make them nice. That
was a delusion that the Obama and Biden regimes instituted. Yeah,
and look I was reading again. It's kind of hard
to see what's going on in Iran right now because
they have completely shut down internet and cell phone access
(10:50):
basically in the entire part of the country, and we're
moving up on thirteen days of consecutive protests which seem
to be growing there. It's all fueled by economic anger.
The rate of inflation has gone through the roof in Iran,
and effectively their currency is valueless, and that is a
direct result of the pressure that President Trump has brought
(11:13):
to bear economically on that country. And buck, I think
it's even worse than what some people said, this will
cause World War three. Thousands of American troops will die.
That's what a lot of people said would happen if
we attack their nuclear capacities. It's actually not just that
they were wrong about the awful results that might ensue,
it's that actually it made us all safer. It actually
(11:37):
was I think the prerequisite of there being some form
of safety in the Middle East. In other words, you
had to eliminate that danger from Iran and the theocratic rulers,
the Ayatola and company being able to have nuclear weapons
in order for there to be peace capable of breaking
out in the Middle East. And remember, remember this is
(11:58):
super significant. Pay attention to what people do, not what
they say. Most of the countries in the Middle East
actually supported Trump's strikes on Iran. The Saudi Arabia, is,
the Uaes, the Qatars. They may say publicly, oh, this
is unacceptable. Privately they're all saying to the United States
and even Israel through back channels. Hey, we support you
(12:21):
on these attacks. We're all about this. We will get
into more of this and also the latest from the worst. Certainly,
I think we could say the worst mayor in the Midwest.
Oh no, Brandon Johnson. I was gonna say, Jacob Fray
has got fry. Sorry, I think he d worse. I
think he may be worse than Brandon Johnson.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
And this is tough. I hate to say it. It
is a tough call. You know. It's like what's worth
so a heart attack, get it hit by a car.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I don't know. They're both really bad. These guys are
both really bad mayors. So it's it's a tough call.
But we'll get into what's going on with the Ice situation.
I think they're going to run out of steam on this,
and I think a big part of it is there's video.
The video show is what happened. The ICE agent had
already been attacked and dragged by someone in a.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Car doing something like this.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Uh and as you point out, how was a trained
aggressor who wanted to provoke a reaction. Her partner was
filming the whole thing like this was a setup. She
didn't expect it would go this bad, and certainly we
don't want anyone to die. We're anti death on this show.
And she's white and deranged. Leftists just can't get that
upset about stra a white person being killed. It's just true.
(13:32):
I mean, that's there. It's their moral failing, not all.
They're the ones that make this distinction. Like I think,
it's just terrible if a human being is killed under
you know, the under circumstances where they should fancy death.
We want long as possible. It's a strong take here
for the start of the Friday show. We're antibody. We
(13:53):
don't have more than us who disagrees with us on
that one. We do not like people losing their lives
for no good reason. So but we don't make distinctions
based upon skin color on that the left does. For
for a leftist in America today, if a black person
is killed in a situation of any political implication or consequence,
(14:13):
it is far bigger, a far bigger deal to them
than when other people are killed, just the truth involving
law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
That that is the way that it is, as we know.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Just look at all all the BLM BLM, BLM doesn't
get upset unless it's a person who is a person
of well, a black person specifically, not just a person
of color.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
So that's why I think this is gonna fizzle out
a bit in the days ahead, but we'll see all right.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
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Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get
your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
We are by the way, going to head up to Minneapolis.
She's on the ground. Becca Breca Stole, who works at
The Daily Wire, is up in Minneapolis right now and
she is going to join us at the top of
(16:07):
the next hour. And she interviewed a woman. Do we
have this interview that she did of a crazy woman?
Let's play this to kind of give you a little
bit of a preview of that. And also we're going
to be joined by Brionna Lyman in the third hours.
Two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of America's founding. Brianna came
on a little bit ago. She is a superstory nerd.
(16:29):
Today is the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the
publication of Common Sense, so we will talk about that.
We'll have some fun nerding out on that. But here's
cut three Brecastal of the Daily Wire interviewing a woman
at a protest.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
I'm just walking here. I'm kind of just dayside because
I got it. I was like, I don't know if
it's the rightything to do. It feels kind of wrong
being here in some way. I don't know why. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know, like where that sentence from, Like,
I don't I mean, part of it is being like
(17:04):
a white woman that I'm privileged, and I have a
lot of privilege. So I feel like white tears are
not always something that's helpful or necessary when black and
brown people have been experiencing this for a long time.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I just these people's brains are broken, Buck, But it's clay.
It's like Marxist jargon, which I go.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Into some detail about in my book Manufacturing Delution, coming
out in about a month.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
This is trained, like she's been trained to speak this way.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
No normal person says, I don't think that white tears
are what what do you see in the concept of
white tears is not something that a normal person. It's
not a phrase that exists. The black tears exist, the
brown tears is people. There's just tears. There's actually something
that just should unite us all as human beings, which
is that tears are sad, and all human tears should
be sad. But they've created a higher you know who
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in here to Clay and Buck Show. Let's give you
the latest on the Minnesota Ice shooting. I do not
think that this is going to continue to be something
that the left mobilizes around beyond this weekend. I could
be wrong, but I'm already getting the sense that the
(19:09):
pieces are not what they need to be to even
if they're going to misrepresent it get what they want
out of it. Right, It's never what the facts are,
it's are there enough facts in play that counter the
narrative they want to create that it takes just takes
the heat out of the situation.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I think we're pretty close to that.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
So that's a different level here than where they thought
we would be here, though, is the mayor of I mean,
this guy he is.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Such he is such a loathsome coward.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I there are so many other words play I would
like to use, but it is a family show and
we have FCC rules, so I cannot use those words.
But all of you know what words I would like
to use. Those are the words. This guy is the
absolute worst. To go and cry. Imagine showing up at
(20:04):
a funeral for someone you don't know who happens to
also have been a career felon. Who happens to be
somebody who held a gun at the belly of a
pregnant woman during a home invasion and threatened to shoot her.
George Floyd sang, George Floyd, Now, if you're a lunatic democrat,
imagine going to someone's funeral like that Clay as a
(20:26):
public figure and bending the knee and crying.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
At the casket.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
What a footage of him dancing at the Somali events,
And I mean, I just so much. The kids like
to use the word cringe, and I think it's kind
of a perfect explanation of Jacob Fry. Everything about him
(20:52):
is just indicative of us as a country often having
the worst among us as political leaders. I mean, this
guy is you know, you've talked about this some on
air and some off air. There are a lot of
people that sadly are in positions of political prominence that
couldn't be successful in the real world in other jobs.
(21:16):
And I look at him and I say, you know,
the job pays one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars
a year, right to debase yourself and destroy a great
American city in order to perpetuate lies. Can we have
a more honest conversation about the entire George Floyd joke
(21:38):
and the fact that they're trying to replicate it now
because they want cities to burn, and they want chaos
and they want disorder, and the fact that Minnesota has
become the cultural flashpoint of the collapse. I think of
sanity in America is I know, for many Minnesotans who
are listening to us right now, you wouldn't have bet
(21:59):
on this in the eighties. You wouldn't have bet on
this in the seventies. I think Minnesota right now has
the worst leadership and the craziest political trajectory of any
state in America, even worse than California, even worse than
New York, even worse than Illinois. It's indefensible what has
been allowed to occur there over the last eight or
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ten years. And Jacob Fry here this is cut two.
Here he is saying, Now, now keep in mind when
he said this, I guess it was January eighth.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Does there have been eight.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Days in the calendar year so far? So this is
the way this guy sets this up. Listen, listen to cut.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Two fifty percent of the shootings that have happened thus
far in Minneapolis this year has been ice. In other words,
we've only had two shootings, one of them has been ice.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
We are a safe city.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Ice is making it less so we are a city
of unity, but ICE is trying to divide us and
tear us apart. For every one of the people that
you see standing here behind me, they have more than
a thousand people behind them. They have people that are
committed to their neighbors, committed to integrity, committed to justice,
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and committed to getting the truth.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Clay Minneapolis, just so everyone can have a little reminder here,
had almost one hundred homicides in twenty twenty one during
the Saint George Floyd reckoning. Almost one hundred. Now that's
that doesn't sound like a lot by say New York
City standards. How big is Minneapolis as a city. I
(23:39):
don't know what is half a million people? Maybe something
I'm guessing if you're now sometimes whether you're counting a
county like the metropolitan area as a part of that,
it is just the city. I think this is just
a stat from the Minneapolis City PD. So my point
is Clay, Yeah, fifty percent of the shootings, because it's
like the year just started, and what is that even?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
What does that even mean? Why is that relevant here?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
If there was a cop that was involved in a
shooting because and it was a lawful shoot, there's no
what cas is he making here that law enforcement can't
protect themselves. I sit and I wonder who could vote
for this guy and not understand that they are part
of the problem. That this moron has ruined Minneapolis in
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every way that he can and really made it a
place that people feel sorry for now, and there's no
sense of remorse over this from him at all.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
This is interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I'm pulling up on Grock the overall data of murders
four hundred thousand. By the way, I wasn't that far.
Four hundred thousand people in Minneapolis. They had the nineties,
they peaked at ninety seven homicides, and then it went
down substantially and then spiked hugely after the twenty twenty
(24:59):
George Full protests. And what I would say about it
in general is, first of all, this is a perfect
example of only we only have two shootings and fifty
percent of them are from ice. I would also almost
guarantee that the rate of murder in Minneapolis overwhelmingly corresponds
(25:20):
with summer skyrocketing. Right in January, I bet the number
of shootings that happen in Minneapolis because it's so cold
and people are not out on the streets. If you've
got to be really dedicated, because you're gonna have to
put on that ski parka, you're gonna have to you're
gonna have to put the snowshoes on.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So the most down the drive by a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
This is actually buck why I think there's not gonna
be a lasting result of the shooting.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
And by ice.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
First of all, it's justified and they're gonna fight over it,
and it's going to continue to diminish. But it's super cold,
and so I think the number of people that are
gonna be willing to get out in the streets in
Minneapolis in January and protest is going to dwindle as
the temperature is just brutal and you're going to be
standing out there. So I think that's going to diminish.
(26:08):
But yes, look, I bet seventy five percent of the
shootings that take place, murders that take place in Minneapolis,
I bet happened between May and October. I would just
bet in the summer, when kids are back out on
the streets more so, when people are moving around outside
way more In general, the number of murders all over
(26:31):
the country is way lower in the winter than it
is in the summer. But I bet it's on steroids
that data when it comes to Minneapolis. So I just
think this is indicative of total failure, that this guy
is the leader, and that his superior to the extent
(26:51):
you want to say it is Tim Walls. Tim Walls
is not a smart guybuck, I mean, he is not
an intelligent You just leave aside politic and compare watching
Tim Walls respond to questions with JD Vance yesterday. There
is thirty point iq difference between JD Vance and Tim Walls.
I bet maybe even more substantial. Well, that reminds us
(27:14):
all of the VP debate, remember yes where JD ran
such circles around Walls that you actually kind of felt
maybe a little bad for Walls. And I think JD
felt a little bad for Walls. Guys just not not
up for the big stage in any meaningful way. And
I think that Kamala and this came across as I'm
a chief comologist on the show. Kamala wanted Walls because
(27:39):
she didn't want somebody that was clearly smarter and more
capable than her, which would have been the mayor, I mean,
the governor of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
That's what that was. It actually was, I don't want.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
To be outshown or outshined or however you say that. Yeah,
and the downside here is, and I think this is
You may have seen the meme, but I think it's
one hundred percent accurate. Barack Obama said I need VP
dumber than me. Joe Biden. Joe Biden said I need
a VP dumber than me. Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris said
I need a VP dumber than me. Tim Walls. Every
step since then, whatever you think of Obama's way smarter
(28:11):
than Kamala, way smarter than Joe Biden, and way smarter
than Tim Walls on every step there, Democrats got dumber.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And I think this is.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
One big part of the Trump two point zero that
isn't getting talked about enough. Whatever you think about them,
jd Vance, Marco Rubio, and Pete hag Seth are all
smart guys, way smarter than the average media member who
is covering them. And obviously Trump is a smart guy too,
But I think the intellectual theft of Marco jd and
(28:42):
HEG Seth is probably higher than we have seen in
a very very long time when it comes to the
top echelon governmental leaders that we have.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I think it's a big difference.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Now. Chuck Schumer is crafty. He's crafty, for sure. I
don't think he sure is a dumb guy. Say he's
not a dumb guy, but I'm not really sure what
he thinks he's gonna what he thinks he's gonna be
able to do with this one. Here he is speaking
out on this ice shooting, saying that we shouldn't have
(29:16):
ice agents patrolling our streets.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Play for the bottom.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
Line is very simple. We should not have ice agents
patrolling our streets. They're not needed, They create chaos, and
they even create deaths. The mayor of Minneapolis didn't want them,
so many other cities didn't. This is sort of Trump
strutting around. But if they don't belong in our cities,
plain and simple, we need a full investigation here as
(29:41):
to what happened.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Think about this logic play applied to any other law
enforcement agency. US marshals have a really good reputation among
the law enforcement communities, I will say, and I used
to work in a shared sort of co located fusion
center with some with some US marshals. You know, they
go after high threat felons, right, They'll go after people
(30:07):
who have you know, jumped, like jump bail, felon, stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Basically they do.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
The manhunt stuff out there. Sometimes they have to go
into a residence, guns drawn, kicking in the door, wrestling
people in.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Sometimes they have to shoot.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Now is that their fault or is it the fault
of the people who are the law breakers who have
you know, fled, you know, whether they've escaped from prison
or they've jumped bail or whatever is they've done.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Right, So my point here is.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
On ice, they're blaming law enforcement for enforcing the law
and not the people breaking the law necessitating the law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I mean, you could do this with gang units.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
There are some very high profile gang units that have
been deployed in the the plane plain Clothes unit in
New York, which oh gosh, I don't know, I mean,
de Blasio rid of it, or try to get rid
of it. I'm sure Mom, Donnie will get rid of it.
But Clay sometimes they have to tackle very bad people
to the street, and sometimes that means they get a
concussion or there's you know, it's a scuffle and it's nasty,
(31:11):
and occasionally they might have to draw their repon and
shoot somebody. Is that their fault or is it the
fault of the gang member felons that don't want to
get caught. Yeah, and look, I think you can build
even more on this Minneapolis situation, buck In that this
is what they wanted to happen. They have been trying
to provoke, They have been trying to create situations that
(31:34):
lead to more violence. This is why, in the wake
of the BLM stuff, I sat down with my boys,
and I imagine most of you out there with your
kids and grandkids. I said, look, I'm a lawyer. Sometimes
a police officer might ask you to do something that
you don't want to do, or that you might be
concerned about, you know, doing. Always listen to a police officer.
(31:55):
They are imperfect. They may give you awful suggestions. But
the way to ensure that we have less police shootings
is actually just comply with police officer instructions. If that woman.
First of all, she should have never been at the
ice event. But if that woman had just listened when
that police saw that Ice officer came up and said,
(32:17):
roll down your window, open your door. If she had
just listened to the police officer, the ice official there,
none of this would have ever heard if she had
just complied with those instructions instead of trying to floor
it and roar out of there after she blocked the
Parkeder car perpendicularly and tried to impinge the ability to
do the job there, Clay, if I'm pulled over by
(32:41):
a cop. If I'm pulled over, let's say, by a
state trooper on the side of the highway, and he says,
get out of your car, and I get out of
my car, and I quickly moved my hands toward my waistband,
and he says, show me your hands, show me your hands,
and I don't show them my hands. I keep reaching
and then I make a fast movement towards him.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
He's lawfully allowed to shoot me.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yes, because we cannot ask a state trooper or any cop,
or any law enforcement to wait until the bullet passes
through their shoulder or their chest before they actually get
to draw and use their weapon.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
That's just the way it is, yes, which is why comply. Comply. Comply.
I'm a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
If somebody does something that is an inappropriate, illegal search, seizure,
or whatever it is, you can challenge that in a
court when you're alive. I've said this for a long time.
I've said it to my own boys. I would say
it to your kids. I would say it to your grandkids.
If a police officer asks you to do something, do it,
even if you think that is not what you would
(33:45):
prefer to do. It's my advice to my kids. We
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your podcasts. Welcome back in Play Travis Bucks Extant Show.
I asked Brock during that commercial break because I wanted
to look up the data Minneapolis, because again I think
Minneapolis has become the cultural flashpoint in many ways of
(35:12):
the woke mind virus in this country. In twenty nineteen,
Minneapolis had forty eight murders. In twenty twenty and twenty
twenty one, that is, during the George Floyd protests, and
the year after the George Floyd put protests, the murder
rate effectively doubled in Minneapolis. So Black Lives Matter has
(35:35):
nowhere in America. Are they more on the ground active
than Minneapolis, and it led to more black deaths, primarily
ninety four murders in twenty twenty ninety five murders in
twenty twenty one, so they doubled the number of murders
that were taking place there. Last year, Minneapolis had sixty
(35:58):
four murders. So they still are up substantially on murders
even five years after the George Floyd incident. So if
you really want to kind of analyze what the impact
was of BLM, BLM led to interestingly and ironically and unfortunately,
far more Black people dying than would have died if
(36:21):
BLM had never existed at all. Because they decided police
were the bad guys. Police weren't able to catch the
actual bad guys, and as a result, the murder rates
skyrocketed all over the country, but Minneapolis in particular, with
Jacob Fry as their mayor and with Minnesota being led
by Tim Walls, they failed on an epic level. That's
(36:43):
what the data reflects. When we come back, we'll go
up to Minneapolis with Breca Stole next
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