January 15, 2026 • 47 mins
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Clay and Buck open with breaking news of another ICE-involved shooting after agents were attacked during an arrest operation. The suspects—identified as Venezuelan illegal immigrants with final deportation orders—reportedly assaulted an officer, prompting him to fire in self-defense. This follows a string of violent confrontations and protests targeting federal agents, with ICE vehicles vandalized and weapons stolen from government vehicles. The hosts warn that Minneapolis has become the epicenter of Resistance 2.0, echoing the chaos of the 2020 BLM riots, and argue that President Trump must act decisively to prevent nationwide unrest.
The conversation intensifies as Clay and Buck analyze Trump’s Truth Social post threatening to invoke the Insurrection Act if Minnesota officials fail to stop organized attacks on federal law enforcement. They frame this as a defining moment for Trump’s second term, contrasting his current posture with what they call the missed opportunity to crush BLM riots in 2020. Buck emphasizes that Democrats are weaponizing immigration enforcement as a political wedge, portraying ICE as “Gestapo” and encouraging obstruction—language that, they argue, incites violence against officers. Clay underscores the stakes: Trump cannot afford to break faith with voters on border security, making Minneapolis a “crucible decision” for his presidency.
The Left Wants to Abolish ICE
Clay and Buck open with sharp analysis of Rep. Shri Thanedar’s renewed call to abolish ICE, reviving a radical slogan first championed by AOC during Trump’s first term. They argue that Democrats’ strategy is clear: dismantle enforcement while keeping immigration laws on the books to avoid openly admitting their open borders agenda. This, they contend, is part of a long-term plan to reshape America’s demographics and political landscape.
The hosts highlight Trump’s historic success in reversing decades of migration trends, noting that net migration turned negative in 2025 for the first time since the 1920s. Approximately 2.6 million illegal immigrants left the country through deportations and self-removal, a stark contrast to Biden’s border surge that saw monthly inflows soar to 200,000. Clay and Buck frame this as proof that Trump’s enforcement policies are working, even as Democrats and media allies attempt to undermine ICE operations by portraying agents as brutal and lawless. They warn that rhetoric from figures like Hakeem Jeffries—accusing ICE of “brutalizing American families”—is fueling hostility and setting the stage for violence against federal officers, echoing the chaos of 2020’s BLM riots.
Gov't Makes Things Expensive
The conversation then pivots to Trump’s new “Great Healthcare Plan,” unveiled by White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt, which emphasizes affordability and transparency. The plan aims to permanently lower prescription drug prices, redirect subsidies from insurers to consumers, mandate public price disclosures to eliminate surprise bills, and hold insurance companies accountable with clear rate comparisons. Clay and Buck stress that Trump learned from Republicans’ 2018 midterm losses over healthcare and is now positioning affordability—alongside housing and credit card interest reform—as a cornerstone of his economic message. They argue that Trump’s proactive approach on healthcare and cost-of-living issues could resonate deeply with voters, contrasting his market-driven solutions with Democrats’ push for government control.
Should We Buy Greenland?
Updates on President Trump’s Greenland acquisition push, following high-level meetings between U.S., Danish, and Greenlandic officials at the White House. Clay and Buck explain Trump’s rationale for pursuing Greenland as a long-term national security asset, citing its strategic Arctic location, potential mineral wealth, and historical parallels to Seward’s purchase of Alaska and the Louisiana Purchase. They argue that Greenland could be critical for monitoring nuclear submarine activity and countering Russian and Chinese influence in the Arctic, framing Trump’s vision as a century-long play for American dominance rather than a short-term real estate flip.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thursday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are off
and running many different stories to be tracking reports that
Trump was prepared, as we talked about yesterday, to strike
Iran and then at the last possible moment called off
an attack after Iran promised that they would not execute
(00:23):
any of the protesters, and that that request came at
the behest of Saudi Arabia other Middle Eastern countries. We
will continue to follow that Greenland drama.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We will discuss Kamala Harris has got a.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
New eight million dollar home, probably from which she will
be planning her big presidential campaign. That will get me
another fantastic steak dinner at the expensive Buck Section. But
we begin with an actual serious and dark story that
continues to unspool itself from Minneapolis, where another ICE shooting
(01:01):
happened last night because another ICE agent was attacked multiple
different individuals reportedly attacking an ICE agent he felt compelled
to fire as they resisted arrest, he hit someone in
the leg. Protests swept through Minneapolis yet anew and there
were ICE vehicles that were torn asunder, different documents that
(01:27):
were stolen, Reports that a weapon was stolen from inside
of a ICE vehicle. It has become downright nasty in
Minneapolis on a level frankly that does not exist anywhere
else in the country. And we have Attorney General Pam Bondi,
who weighed in on what is going on there, and
(01:47):
this is what she said.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
In Minnesota, we had six prosecutors who suddenly decided they
didn't want to support the men and women in Ice.
One of them was busy doing a photo shoot with
the New York Times while Ice was out there risking
their lives. So they came they said, we want to resign,
but we want to use our annual leave up until April,
meaning they wanted the taxpayers to pay for them to
(02:15):
go on vacation because they decided they didn't want to
support law enforcement. So the breaking news tonight, I fired
them all. They're fired from the office. And our US
attorney there Rosen, he's great. He was just confirmed three
months ago, so he has his hands full. And that's
what we're facing around the country, the deep state in
many of these offices.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Okay, Tim Walls is telling everybody, the governor of Minnesota,
pull out your phones and record everything that's going on.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
This feels like an eerie echo of what happened in
twenty twenty. You and I have talked about this a
great deal that in the wake of the BLM protests,
what happened was people said, oh, police officers are the problem,
They're the reason, and there's violence in this country. Police
officers were attacked, sometimes physically, often verbally, certainly in the
(03:07):
larger court of public opinion, by Democrats who did not
want prisoners to be put kept in prison cells and
did not want violent criminals to be arrested. Now, six
years later, roughly, it feels to me quite clear that
ICE is being targeted in Minneapolis in the same way.
And I think President Trump, who said I may have
(03:28):
to put the Insurrection Act in play, I think he
has an opportunity now to try to stomp this out
before it spreads and before we get worse aspects like
this nationwide. I think he needs to surge resources. I
think he needs to send a message that didn't happen
frankly in the early days of BLM, that violence is unacceptable,
(03:50):
that we're going to arrest people who engage in violence
against ICE officers, and we cannot allow what happened in
twenty twenty to replicate itself back in the summer of
twenty twenty. It feels a little bit like the early
stages of potentially something similar.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Well, this is why on truth Social Trump has written
the following, If the corrupt politicians of Minnesota don't obey
the law and stop the professional agitators and insurrectionists from
attacking the patriots of Ice, who are only trying to
do their job, I will institute the Insurrection Act, which
(04:24):
many presidents have done before me. Clay, I think he should. Yes,
I think that this is a pivotal moment. This is
a defining moment for whether we are a rule of
law country. Democrats, the Democrat base of Biden, Kamala, etc.
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The lawlessness of illegal immigration they have embraced. They do
not get to nullify federal law enforcement efforts. Imagine, Clay,
what the response would have been if there had if
we had had people ambushing FBI officers who are going
in at pre dawn raids for nonviolent j sixers. Imagine
(05:10):
what the Democrat But I think the Democrats would have
said to the FBI just opened fire on them.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I mean, I honestly think they would have.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
They would have been fined with lethal force in that situation,
and unfortunately, I think some of those FBI officials would
have done it because their scumbacks. Some of them have
been fired thanks to UH the last year, but Clay
the Insurrection Act. This is clearly a organized and planned
(05:35):
out and widespread effort to undermine the rule of law
and to stop the administration from effectively conducting these operations
when it comes to immigration enforcement. Whatever resources are necessary,
are are should be deployed. Whatever the federal government needs
(05:56):
to do here. You know, we've seen this in the past.
We've seeing how they'll send soldiers to the schoolhouses with
Civil Rights Act.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Whatever they got to do here, they gotta do.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Is it fair to say that Trump one point zero
maybe the most disappointing decision that was made not situation
that arose, but decision that was made was not aggressively
enough trying to stamp out the BLM protests.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I think if you go back.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
In time summer of twenty twenty, I think the Trump
team made the decision that this was going to burn
itself out more rapidly than it did. And unfortunately, what
we got was actual burning of so many different cities.
And like I said, you can go back. The data
is clear.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Twenty twenty. Twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Murder rates skyrocketed all over the country as police were
not allowed to do their job. My concern is that
we are seeing the same kind of opposition to ICE
that we saw to police in twenty twenty. Let's be honest,
a lot of times it's difficult when there's a police
raid going on, or an FBI raid going on, or
an ICE raid going going on, to know exactly who
(07:02):
the authorities are that are conducting that raid. And so
I think Trump has to come in aggressively. We saw
him do it, and I think he set the tone
in the agenda and the precedent in LA. It wasn't
that long ago, Buck, Remember when the way moos were
burning and they were throwing things at police officers and
at ICE agents like crazy, and you had Mayor Karen
(07:24):
Bath speaking out about how unacceptable it was. Trump surge
support for ICE agents in Los Angeles, and by and
large that story vanished. They put in place the rule
of law. Now they file lawsuits, and they said, oh,
remember Cavin Newsom said Trump can't call out the National Guard.
He doesn't have this authority. Clearly does he has the
(07:45):
authority to call it out. Minneapolis has emerged as the
flashpoint I think of far left wing activism anywhere in
the country. Tim Walls and Mayor Fry are encouraging this
in Minneapolis. I think President Trump needs to surge law
enforcement resources and needs to send the message we're not
letting this spread. Ice is going to do their job.
(08:05):
We've got their back, and we're going to continue to
implement the raids and policies that were already in place.
This is, to me a crucible decision for the President.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
It's also very obviously where the Democrats believe they will
break the back of this administration and turn the tide
just in time for the midterms. Yes, they think that
they can do two things here. One, energize the Democrat base.
Get them all, Oh, we're the new civil rights heroes
and we're they're standing up for illegals in some cases,
(08:37):
as people are preventing arrests of like rapists and pedophiles
and murderers and gang members, and they think they're heroes
for this, which is completely insane. But that's where the
Democrat base is. This is all that got. I mean,
they're not going to win on on women can have penises.
I mean, we saw that at the Supreme Court. That's
actually which is the strong basis of the Democrat party too.
There it turns out that's actually not true Democrats, and
(08:59):
you can and keep saying it's true, but it's still
not true.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
And we're not.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Going to change our minds on this one. So they
think that immigration is where they can make their stand,
and they also know that this is where Trump cannot
break his compact with his voters this time around. First administration,
first time, some bumps, some lessons, everything else.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
This is it.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Trump's got this and this term only to figure this out.
And that's why I think that whatever it takes to
dutifully and faithfully enforce these laws in Minneapolis and elsewhere
is what the administration should do. I think Trump knows
this is an all in moment for his agenda and
for his second term.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
No doubt. And so again we will see.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
And unfortunately, I think what you are seeing is the
mayor of Minneapolis and the Governor of Minnesota, Tim Walls
and Fry, Jacob Fry, they have made ice agents targets.
They are encouraging people to target them. I hate to
say it, But unfortunately it feels self evident that this
(10:03):
is going to happen. Buck, somebody in Minneapolis is going
to open fire on ICE agents. That is going to happen.
It feels inevitable to me, all of you know it,
because they are encouraging their crazy supporters, their.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Base to engage in this kind of behavior.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Remember that lunatic BLM supporter who killed I think it
was five cops in Dallas, yep. And many of us
had been saying, they're calling for violence against cops. This
is going to get out of control. They're calling not
only are they calling for violence against ICE. And this
is from across the board others. Because when you say
someone is a Gestapo, every movie we've ever seen, what
(10:42):
do you want to happen to the Gestapo agents? And
sometimes it does? Right that Inglorious Bastard's movie or whatever, Right,
but what do you want to happen? You want someone
to take out the evil Gestapo guy Indiana Jones? What
do you want the Nazis face is to be melted off?
And all that. This is so when you're calling people
Gestapo and Nazis and SS, which is what they're calling ICE,
(11:02):
and I mean members of Congress.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You want bad.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Things to happen to them, Yes, And not only do
they want bad things to happen to them if an
ice agent, God forbid, but if an ice agent is
killed in the conduct of his duty, you'll go on
blue sky if you want that night they'll be. They'll
be maniac commal of voters celebrating it all over the internet,
all over the inn The people that pretended to care
so much about the rule of law.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Oh, the insurrection January sixth.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
All of a sudden, law enforcement they they will celebrate
the murder of a law enforcement officer if it happens
all over the internet.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Clay, you know it, and I know it. And that's
there take in this country to.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
They're putting targets on all of them. The behavior is unacceptable.
And again the fact that Minneapolis is sort of the
hornet's nest of opposition, I think we have to send
a message that this is unacceptable. We can't allow it
to spiral and spread. We saw what Trump did in
la I think it was effective, and the same thing
(12:00):
needs to happen in Minneapolis. I actually think Buck the
best advantage we have in Minneapolis right now. It's going
to sound crazy, is that it's super cold, because when
the George Floyd BLM protests began it was May. It
was May of twenty twenty, weather was getting better. You've
talked about the fact that protesters by and large show
up in bigger numbers when the weather is good and
(12:21):
it's super cold in Minneapolis. Notwithstanding the reaction and the
opposition that we're seeing right now, I think it's easier
to tamp down this behavior right now than it would
be in May or June. I should expect it, though,
because we're going into an election year. The timing on
this is not coincidental.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
It's like we were there for the inauguration and we
saw that sad protest that we've talked about in the
show before, the old ladies with their teeth chattering, all
ten of them like free.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
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Speaker 1 (12:52):
Almost exactly one year ago today, we were doing the
inauguration trip to Washington, d C. And that was what
we were seeing was exactly that situation.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I can't feel my toes, but trans rights are human rights.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
You know.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
It was a sad, sad spectacle out there. So yes,
protesting and freezing weather is certainly less fun of all
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The second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Now.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yogi Barro once said, it's deja vu all over again.
Who was a clever fellow?
Speaker 6 (15:25):
That?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yogi's Barra, Who's a sports fellow too? Play from what
I have great Yankees.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Catcher, and here we have that feeling because a member
of Congress has returned, you will recall to what a
previous member of Congress said. I think it was back
in twenty eighteen when AOC was leading the charge on
abolish ice. You aren't you seeing the connections here? My
(15:53):
friends Trump's first term. What was really the first thing
that wasn't Russia Kalouzion where they really dug in. Now
that was all a fabrication, as we know, that was
a lie. It was deep state soft coup and all
of that. But it was on immigration, Clay that they
(16:14):
made their first real stand against Trump policy and had
to do with the family separation policy. That was the thing,
Oh my gosh, and it was AOC remember that in
addressed all in white crying holding the fence, and you
started to hear abolish ICE was this slogan. That was
(16:34):
the phrase, We're going to abolish. The problem with that,
of course, is why wouldn't you get rid of the
law that ICE is enforcing? Well, because then you'd have
to just be open borders and everybody would know it.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
So what they want to do is get rid.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Of the agency that enforces this law, but keep the
law on the books, because then you won't have to
have the political conversation and members of Congress won't have
to take vote to show that they open borders. Anyway
that it fizzled, but it is very much now back
this time not because of border enforcement, because Trump got
(17:08):
that one down. He figured out, you want to talk
about learning from the first time out. Trump two point
zero has locked this border down. It is secure, uh,
Trump one point zho. They got them on the family
separation issue because this was all being exploited. It was
all parts of immigration law that were there's complexities in this,
(17:29):
but basically they figured out, if you show up with
a kid, you get to just come into the country.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
So then emer starts showing up with the kids.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
They go, well, we're gonna start, you know, processing the parents,
and we're gonna and the kids are gonna be held
in a separate facility. And then, oh my gosh, you're
breaking a family whole thing.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Clay. I bring this up.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Because this guy who's a member of Congress, which is
even for Congress, pretty hard to believe when you when
you check this guy out shre Thanadar.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
You see this guy, Oh yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
With the ridiculous hair for people who have I mean
it's maybe not saying, but I mean, this guy looks
his hair maybe the most ridiculous wig in all of Congress.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
It's pretty remarkable. He also speaks with a very thick
foreign accent, Okay, and he is. So you have the
guy with probably the thickest foreign accent in Congress telling
everybody that we need to get rid of the agency
that enforces immigration law. Cut twelve wants to abolish ICE.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
Listen to this, Ice is beyond reform. Ice is totally
out of control. And this week I intend to introduce
a bill to abolish ice. We need to make ice
go away.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
I just want to know, come on, Clay, that they
did this before, though this isn't the first time we've
been here. Abolish ice so everyone gets to your question
before about how many illegals.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Everyone gets to stay.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, the Democrat position, you're increasingly seeing all that stuff
about how they want to enforce the law too, and
they want some cre They just the immigration system's broken.
They want to fix it. No, actually they want it
to be broken. They broke it.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Well, they want open borders.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
And I think that guy we just heard from if
I'm not mistaken team in New York, you can research it.
I think he was the first one to introduce impeachment
proceedings against President Trump. I mean, obviously did not get
very many votes, but that is the reality under which
this motivation is occurring, because Trump has for the first time.
(19:35):
I don't know if you saw this story out there
for the first time. I think in several generations. I
think going back to before Reagan, there were fewer people
that came into the country during Trump two point zero,
like we actually had to decline in migrants.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
In entire net. Migration play is negative in Latin last
year for the first time since the nineteen twenties, which is.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
An incredible data point.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Yes here, I've actually got the numbers monthly flow about
I've got the monthly flow of net immigration fifty It's
basically been fifty thousand a year for the last thirty years,
and then under Biden went to two hundred thousands. Biden
just kicked the borders open everybody. This is what they did.
And now with Trump, it's negative one hundred and forty
(20:28):
five thousand per month so far in the first year.
And now look the exact numbers. Tom Holman, I actually
saw him yesterday at the White House. Tom Holman believes
that two million people roughly have self deported, that has
leave the left the country on their own. And we
know that there's been deportation of around six hundred thousand people.
(20:49):
So the number out there, I think that that number
is based on that you just referenced, is roughly two
point six million people leaving.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Tom Homan said that there's twenty million illegal in the country,
so roughly that would mean about ten percent of the
illegal population left in year one. The challenge you're seeing there,
if you do basic math on this is even if
Trump kept the exact same pace up and the self
deportation percentages remain the same. We're still basically getting to
(21:21):
a place where we're narrowly I mean, we're getting down
to twelve million illegals instead of twenty. It's a huge number.
And this was really the calculus behind Biden opening up
the border. It was that when all these people get here,
it basically becomes impossible to ever get them to leave.
And that's the calculus. This was not a four year plan.
(21:46):
This is a multi generational plan by which they want
to change the character and the populace of the United States.
It's very calculated in intent, and Trump is pushing back
against it.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
You have some really crazy and reckless things being said
by members of Congress. For example, well one here is
Hakeem Jeffries, former Speaker of the House. This has cut sixteen.
He's just saying, he keeps repeating this thing about how
they're brutalizing immigrant families play sixteen.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
Clearly significant reform needs to take place as it relates
to the manner in which ICE is conducting itself. Ice
is using taxpayer dollars to brutalize American citizens and to
unnecessarily and viciously target law abiding immigrant families and communities.
The whole premise that Donald Trump's sold to the American
(22:38):
people was that this immigration enforcement activity was going to
target violent felons. It's not targeting violent felons. They're targeting
American families, brutalizing American communities. And now as we've seen
killing American citizens, this is out of control.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Oh, this is what they rutalize.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, this is look, I mean Renee Good deep down
when she was shot. Every Democrat politician like Haakim Jefferies
was excited by this. And you can say, well, Clay,
you're being cruel there when you say this.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Not really.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Axeo said they had a story this summer where they
specifically laid out that Democrats were training people and they
were hoping that there would be a violent act so
that they could use that as an argument of a
political nature to try to stop these ice raids from occurring.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
This was they're hoped for action.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I hate to say it, but they hope that others
will be shot to They are willing to sacrifice on
the altar of politics life. And it's quite clear because
then they can come out and they can say, see,
this is what happens. American citizens are being brutalized and
killed by Ice. This is unacceptable. This is what they
(23:55):
wanted to happen. This is why they're telling everybody to
show up with their phones. This is why they're telling
everybody get in the face of all these ICE agents.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
This is why you have.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
So many people, so many people that have decided to
make it their life's work to show up and scream
and bang pots and pans and honkhorns and insult and
spit on all these ICE agents out there, and they're
just making the situation. Anger isolence is going to ensue.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And this is why I said.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Earlier in the last hour, Buck, I'm already angry because
I know that ICE agents are going to get murdered.
It's just a question of when we've already seen it.
They have set the kettle to boil, and it's inevitable
what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
You know it. I know it.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Every person out there listening knows that we're going to
turn on our televisions or we're going to look down
at our phones and there's going to be innocent ICE
agents murdered. And you pointed out Buck on Blue Sky,
they'll be tap dancing on their graves.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
They're also absolutely and they're also preparing to blame ICE
and the murdered ICE agents for the violence that you
and I both see as imminent against them. Over at CNN,
Abby Phillip, the tactics of ICE that's putting them at risk.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Play fourteen.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
DHS says that this was a targeted enforcement operation and
that the ICE officer was attacked. And I do think
that is exactly the type of situation that we want
as few of those situations as possible to transpire. And
yet it seems like all the time there are all
kinds of interactions happening where ICE officers are put in
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danger and I'm not sure if it's all just because
of you know, violent people attacking them. Sometimes it's also
the tactics that I think are putting them in at risk,
the vehicle stops, which there have been some reporting about
how these vehicle stops are so dangerous.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
The vehicle stops are dangerous because the gang members they're
trying to the rest don't want.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
To be arrested.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, yeah, go fig you this is crazy stuff that is,
but I'm telling you this is gonna be a thing. Well,
if they hadn't been in these communities, the terrible thing
that you and I think is gonna happen. I agree
with you. I think it's gonna happen as a matter
of days. If they hadn't been in these communities, it
would have happened. Imagine if we took that approach to
straight up like gang enforcement activities by cops.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Right.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Oh, if they hadn't been making those arrests of the
bloods and the cryps, they wouldn't have had the cops
to shoot at in the first place.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Well, this is the argument they made in Washington, d C.
When the guy traveled across the country and killed two
innocent National Guards people. I guess killed one and severely
wounded the other. I believe that's the final result. I
think the one of I think they were both from
West Virginia. If I'm not mistaken, I think one of
those individuals survived.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
They said, this.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Is Trump's fault for calling out the National Guard. They
created this situation. Look, they motivated that crazy person, who,
if I remember correctly, was an Afghan refugee who was
led into the country without being soundly vetted, who lost
his mind, who drove across the country and killed two
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or attempted to kill two innocent people, among others. When
this happens with Ice, what did they immediately say? Even
the media put up like, oh, look, Trump made these
people targets by trying to reduce violent crime, by trying
to make the city of Washington safe. You notice, Buck,
you're not hearing much about how effective that has been.
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I'm in Washington, DC right now. City is way safer
statistically than it has been almost in a generation.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Nobody's talking about it.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
This is what the left does, whether it's fighting against
any kind of terrorists, fighting against crime, it's always the
thing you're doing to address the problem is the real problem. Yes,
the fighting against the bad thing is the cause of
the bad thing. Classic communist tactic. Total nonsense.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yesterday I saw President Trump in the Oval Office and
I actually thanked him for the impact that the surge
is having in Memphis. Again, nobody's talking about it. New
Orleans way safer, Washington, d C. Way safer. President wants
to go into a lot of other cities and make
them infinitely safer too. You'll notice when he has that success,
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the story just vanishes. Remember, Buck, everybody said Oh, that's
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Speaker 1 (29:58):
We'll welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Uh,
we'll get into Kamala's eight million dollar house. Maybe summon
the third hour, we'll talk a little bit about Greenland.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I was doing some Greenland research.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
But Caroline Levitt is right now in the White House
Press briefing room, and I believe, boys and girls, we
have a couple of cuts of things that she just said.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Let's listen.
Speaker 10 (30:21):
President Trump unveiled a healthcare plan for America called the
Great Healthcare Plan. The Great Healthcare Plan will accomplish this
through four common sense pillars. Number one, permanently lowering prescription
drug prices. Congress can get this done by codifying President
Trump's Historic Most Favored Nation Initiatives into law to guarantee
Americans the same low prices for prescription drugs that people
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in other countries around the world pay. Number two, The
Great Healthcare Plan will stop sending big insurance companies billions
in extra taxpayer funded subsidy payments and instead send that
money directly to eligible Americans to allow them to buy
the health insurance of their choice. Number three, the Great
Healthcare Plan will maximize price transparency by requiring any healthcare
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provider or insurer who accepts either Medicare or Medicaid to
publicly and prominently post their pricing and fees to avoid
surprise medical bills. And number four holds big insurance companies
accountable right by requiring them to publish rate and coverage
comparisons upfront on their websites in plain English.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Okay, so, but clearly there has been a calculated attempt
for the start of twenty twenty six. When you look
at the President with plans on home affordability, healthcare. Even
we had that big discussion about credit card interest debt,
the President has decided.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
That affordability is going to be a big part.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Of twenty twenty six, and I think he's recognized that
it may well decide the outcome of the midterm elections,
not necessarily what the data shows, but how people are
feeling about the day and whether it feels like he
understands the concerns.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Of people like them.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
We got smoked in the twenty eighteen midterms, and the
data show that it was healthcare got smoked. Remember we're
going to repeal Obamacare. We didn't repeal Obamacare, and it
was it was a rough one. And so again notice
Frump the team. They've learned lessons, which is what you want, right.
You want people to understand they're getting ahead of this,
(32:27):
they're on it. And I think that really pricing and
transparency and making as much of this as more of
this market based is those are the basic principles you
want to increase. I mean, we have screwed healthcare up
in this country so much, so badly. It's pretty astonishing
(32:47):
actually how.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
And all you do is look at what it costs
the government gets involved in anything, look at what education costs,
look at what health care cost the more the government
decides to weigh in on anything that you go look
at like compare healthcare cost buck, I saw a good
graphic on this that I thought was super interesting. Compare
the pace of healthcare cost with flaskreen televisions. Do you
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remember a generation ago when a flatscreen television basically cost
an arm and a leg I mean it felt like
when you got that first h D flatscreen television, it
costs four or five thousand dollars?
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Was how much those things cost.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
I remember needing help from friends in college to carry
like my big ass TV up the stairs because I
think it weighed about one hundred and something pounds. I mean,
it was a mess.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
And now you go to Walmart, or you go to
Costco or Sam's or any of these places, you could
get a forty five inch flat screen television for like
two hundred buck.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I mean, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Government gets out of the way, things get cheaper, government
gets involved, things get way more expensive. Unfortunately, that's a
lesson that a lot of people in on Capitol Hill
still haven't learned. We come back Buck Greenland, Greenland Talk
Kamala Harris, your girl one hundred and seven days. She
now has an eight million dollar house in Malibu. We
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will dive into both of those stories, among others, will
keep you updated on what's going on in Minneapolis as
well as we roll into the final hour Thursday edition
of the program. I bet they paid her so much
for that crappy book.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Even though it didn't start. This is the one.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
This is one of these because a lot of these
big publishers they're just run by libs or libs, and
they will write a huge check to some Democrat politician
just as like it's good for the cause.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yes, no way, Kama's book. I read it.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
It is terrible. It is terrible. The house eight million
dollars she's cashing in.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
We'll talk about it next week.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Oh, welcome back in now number three Clay Travis Buck
Sexton Show, Thursday edition of the program. We appreciate all
of you hanging out with us and what continues to
be a tumultuous crazy time with tons of different stories
that we are tracking on a minute by minute basis.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Frankly, Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I heard us talking at the beginning of the show
in quite a lot already in the first couple of
hours about the disaster that is unschooling in Minneapolis in
the wake of yet another shooting where an ICE agent
was attacked. I went on Sean Hannity's show last night,
Buck talked about it, and we will continue. I am
sure to update you on that story as we progress.
(35:21):
We're also continuing to update you on Iran reports, as
we talked about in the first couple of hours that
President Trump was poised to attack yesterday and at the
last moment chose not to based on the fact that
Iran made promises through third parties that they would not
be conducting executions of protesters. We will see whether that
(35:42):
tamps down the tempest.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
In that relationship.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Right now, price of oil and gas came down substantially,
as maybe there is hope that there's not going to
be attacks coming there.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
As if that were not enough.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Ongoing discussion surrounding Greenland, as we have talked about during
the course of the show as well, Greenland representatives, Denmark
representatives in the White House yesterday trying to persuade President
Trump that he did not actually need to buy Greenland
and that did not go well. And President Trump still
wants to buy Greenland, as we were talking about earlier.
Maybe we'll dive into this and have a little bit
(36:18):
more fun with it. Do you know, Buck, what the
number one part of the Greenland economy, according to what
I read in the Wall Street Journal this morning, is
so fifty seven thousand people who live in Greenland. Obviously,
there's lots of talk about the long term value of
the minerals and all the different natural resources that could
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be associated with Greenland, its location near the Arctic Circle,
the impact of that. Trump is worried about Russia or
China ending up with Greenland and how that would impact
the overall status of the United States. All those things
are true, But right now, what is the number one
part of the economy of Greenland? And based on what
I read this morning in the Wall Street Journal, do
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you have any idea?
Speaker 4 (37:04):
I mean, I know in Iceland it's the fishing industry. Yeah,
I would assume in Greenland that's a big thing. But
also mining would be the next guest that I have.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Mining is not very substantial so far, and this is
very specific. According to the Wall Street Journal, it is shrimp.
It is basically so I nailed it actually out of
the gate shrimp. So we are talking about buying and
and the word is I was actually doing a little
bit of Greenland research because I wanted to know more
about it. That basically, Denmark gives a billion dollars a
(37:35):
year to support everyone who lives in Greenland because the
economy is otherwise not able to suffice buck.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
A huge percentage.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Of people in Greenland lack running water and actually shower
by melting ice. So if you thought I just I
read that this morning in the Wall Street Journal as
I was getting ready for our show.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
If you're out there now and.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
You're like, man, things are really tough for me, I
bet you're not showering with melted ice, which I would
imagine is pretty cold and not an intentional ice bath
as it were. But I thought that was interesting about Greenland,
just kind of giving you an idea. President Trump's idea
there is not based on what Greenland is now it is,
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as many developers and real estate appraisers and purchasers always do.
It's a projection of what the value of Greenland might
be a generation from now, two generations, three generations. And
remember Buck, and you're a history nerd too. When William
Seward bought Alaska, everyone derided the purchase of Alaska as
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Seward's folly in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War,
and it ended up being one of the most brilliant
acquisitions in the history of the United States because Alaska
has become such a beacon of natural resources and such
an incredible value play over time. But in the short
term there have been lots of ridicule Heck, even some
(39:03):
people ridiculed Thomas Jefferson when he bought the Louisiana purchase
back in eighteen oh three from France. So long, forward
looking is the decision here as it pertains to Greenland.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
This is not a short term flip play.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
As all the housing shows out there that everybody likes
to watch, you know, I'm sure you've seen Buck with
the guys like a painter and the wife is like
a daycare worker, and their budgets like eight hundred thousand
dollars for a house, and everybody's always like, how is
that possible? This is not a fixer upper flopper. This
is a long term.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Play, absolutely, and real estate in so many ways has
been a good long term play. Donald Trump, more than
almost anybody knows that.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
And I would say this play.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Maybe things are gonna get a little warmer in Greenland
because there the planet there has been so warming, not
that much. It's climate change is not a catastrophe and
all that stuff, But let's just say things got a
little bit warmer over time. I think it'd be great.
There's plenty of to believe it would be great. They
don't really believe in climate change, though they only believe
in climate change when it benefits them, which is my
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pivot point here to something that I insist we discussed
for a moment. Yes, Kamala Harris, I know where you're going,
Kamala Harris. I'm going from Greenland to Malibu, Baby, I am.
I am hopping a jet taking us all over the world.
This is the world tour with the Buckster. We're going
from Greenland to Malibu. Really, I will say, among the
(40:27):
most beautiful places in America, full of people with the
worst politics, but Malibu is really nice. Yes, the sushi
restaurant there, the Nobu there, very very spectacular, right on
the beach.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
And here's what I'll say, Kamala Harris just bought an
eight million dollar house with her lawyer husband there.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
And I would note a few things.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
First of all, she's clearly not scared of the erosion
of the beaches or the cliffs. Okay, why you're suggesting
that Kamala Harris is not actually worried at all about
climate change, because she, like all of the other super
Hollywood celebs who claimed to be worried about climate change,
is actually buying a beachside home.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yes, yeah, it's amazing. How that.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
Remember when Barack Obama mister climate change is an existential
threat to America, he was he That was the big
phrase of the Obama years. There was there was really
an unholy and evil tripod of Obamaism, and it was healthcare, amnesty,
you know, Obamacare, amnesty, climate change. Those were the three
(41:35):
big things.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
There. Also was was like the George Floyd.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
And not George Floyd, but the BLM, you know that
stuff the first time around. But that wasn't so much
policy as messaging, or at least not a big law.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Thing that they tried to pass necessarily.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
Clay Obama got a probably it's like a thirty million
dollar now, but like a fifteen million dollar beachfront mansion
in Martha's Vineyard.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
No one actually believes this.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
I know he's been talking for a while about climate change,
has fallen out of the conversation, but this is the
climate change. None of the people, the biggest advocates, believe this.
They all want ocean front property and they want it
in California and Hawaii and Martha's vineyards. Low lying Martha's
Vineyard is that sea level.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
They don't care.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
They don't believe in any of this stuff. And Kamala
also such a phony. Oh it's about rich people paying
that rich people are so bad? Well, what contributions is
Kamala made? Wrote a terrible book? Would you make me
read because you go to me? Do it on your own.
I believe that, yes, one hundred and seven days eight
million died, felt like one hundred and seven days to
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read it. Eight million dollar house and this in Malibu,
I mean the most, the most you know, hoity toity,
fancy pants place in America pretty much. And look you
might say, well, Trump lives at Marlagoing. Yeah, Trump doesn't
pretend to be something he's not. Kamala is social justice warrior.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
She's just been.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Enriching herself her whole life. I don't beg anybody who
decides that they want to have a nicer home. I
don't begrudge anybody who wants to live near the ocean
or near the lake, or near anywhere else. But when
you have spent much of your career, this is a
great point telling us all that the world is going
to end, and that climate change, you know, we're all
going to be under sea. And if you live in
New York City or you live in Miami, or you
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live in Los Angeles, or wherever the heck it is
on the coast, that at some point you're going to
be inundated by rising waters. It is incredible several things.
First of all, the prices of real estate on coastal
communities continues to skyrocket everywhere in the entire United States.
So even if you were let's pretend that everybody else
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thought that climate change was real, you would see prices
collapsing right on the waterfront.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Instead, they are skyrocket. Here's the other thing, Buck Malibu.
If you really thought that the.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
World was going to come to an end because of
climate change, right, that it was going to be and
equally destructive, Malibu might be the worst place in America
to pay eight million dollars for a house because they
have the wildfires. As you well know, much of Malibu
got hit by the wildfires, which they tried to claim
was based on climate change. But as we talked about
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when it happened a year ago, actually because of American
and human ingenuity, we have limited drastically the amount of
wildfires that take place in California, which have been going
on since basically time immemorial. Because of the actual unique
geographic constraints of Malibu. But it's not even just the
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rising seas, Buck, it is that you would look around
and you would say, boy, this is a really dangerous
place based on wildfires caused by climate change. To buy
an eight million dollar home instead, she did it. Instead,
she did it. And you know what, she's gonna be
like Bernie Sanders. Remember how Bernie was all anti homes.
How many homes does Bernie have?
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Now?
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Like three? At least three? Yeah, at least three.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Social yes, has at least three homes. Kamala now has
an eight million dollar beach side manner for her and
her lovable Dougie m Hoff, he of the likes to
slap chicks standards that nobody talks about, right, And so
I hope the two of them live in wetted bliss and.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Maybe Buck, maybe.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
This, uh, this decision to pay eight million dollars for
this home will even more make that steak when I
put it to my mouth, even tastes better when she
runs for president in twenty twenty eight, because she's got
to pay.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
I got a little out of my ski. It's a
little aggressive. Look.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
She's gonna get absolutely blown out and she's not gonna
be the nominee. But my my, she's not even gonna
run call get it nervous. I'm I'm not gonna say that, like,
don't don't buy any real estate on Buck Island. Two
point zero On this one, guys, I may be I
may be way off on this one.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
I meant to mention, by the way, as we go
to break here, I was down in the Virgin Islands
over Christmas break. There is a Buck Island there. I
saw it on the map, so it is still above
the water.
Speaker 7 (46:03):
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and running many different stories to be tracking reports that
Trump was prepared, as we talked about yesterday, to strike
Iran and then at the last possible moment called off
an attack after Iran promised that they would not execute
(00:23):
any of the protesters, and that that request came at
the behest of Saudi Arabia other Middle Eastern countries. We
will continue to follow that Greenland drama.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We will discuss Kamala Harris has got a.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
New eight million dollar home, probably from which she will
be planning her big presidential campaign. That will get me
another fantastic steak dinner at the expensive Buck Section. But
we begin with an actual serious and dark story that
continues to unspool itself from Minneapolis, where another ICE shooting
(01:01):
happened last night because another ICE agent was attacked multiple
different individuals reportedly attacking an ICE agent he felt compelled
to fire as they resisted arrest, he hit someone in
the leg. Protests swept through Minneapolis yet anew and there
were ICE vehicles that were torn asunder, different documents that
(01:27):
were stolen, Reports that a weapon was stolen from inside
of a ICE vehicle. It has become downright nasty in
Minneapolis on a level frankly that does not exist anywhere
else in the country. And we have Attorney General Pam Bondi,
who weighed in on what is going on there, and
(01:47):
this is what she said.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
In Minnesota, we had six prosecutors who suddenly decided they
didn't want to support the men and women in Ice.
One of them was busy doing a photo shoot with
the New York Times while Ice was out there risking
their lives. So they came they said, we want to resign,
but we want to use our annual leave up until April,
meaning they wanted the taxpayers to pay for them to
(02:15):
go on vacation because they decided they didn't want to
support law enforcement. So the breaking news tonight, I fired
them all. They're fired from the office. And our US
attorney there Rosen, he's great. He was just confirmed three
months ago, so he has his hands full. And that's
what we're facing around the country, the deep state in
many of these offices.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Okay, Tim Walls is telling everybody, the governor of Minnesota,
pull out your phones and record everything that's going on.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
This feels like an eerie echo of what happened in
twenty twenty. You and I have talked about this a
great deal that in the wake of the BLM protests,
what happened was people said, oh, police officers are the problem,
They're the reason, and there's violence in this country. Police
officers were attacked, sometimes physically, often verbally, certainly in the
(03:07):
larger court of public opinion, by Democrats who did not
want prisoners to be put kept in prison cells and
did not want violent criminals to be arrested. Now, six
years later, roughly, it feels to me quite clear that
ICE is being targeted in Minneapolis in the same way.
And I think President Trump, who said I may have
(03:28):
to put the Insurrection Act in play, I think he
has an opportunity now to try to stomp this out
before it spreads and before we get worse aspects like
this nationwide. I think he needs to surge resources. I
think he needs to send a message that didn't happen
frankly in the early days of BLM, that violence is unacceptable,
(03:50):
that we're going to arrest people who engage in violence
against ICE officers, and we cannot allow what happened in
twenty twenty to replicate itself back in the summer of
twenty twenty. It feels a little bit like the early
stages of potentially something similar.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Well, this is why on truth Social Trump has written
the following, If the corrupt politicians of Minnesota don't obey
the law and stop the professional agitators and insurrectionists from
attacking the patriots of Ice, who are only trying to
do their job, I will institute the Insurrection Act, which
(04:24):
many presidents have done before me. Clay, I think he should. Yes,
I think that this is a pivotal moment. This is
a defining moment for whether we are a rule of
law country. Democrats, the Democrat base of Biden, Kamala, etc.
(04:46):
The lawlessness of illegal immigration they have embraced. They do
not get to nullify federal law enforcement efforts. Imagine, Clay,
what the response would have been if there had if
we had had people ambushing FBI officers who are going
in at pre dawn raids for nonviolent j sixers. Imagine
(05:10):
what the Democrat But I think the Democrats would have
said to the FBI just opened fire on them.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I mean, I honestly think they would have.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
They would have been fined with lethal force in that situation,
and unfortunately, I think some of those FBI officials would
have done it because their scumbacks. Some of them have
been fired thanks to UH the last year, but Clay
the Insurrection Act. This is clearly a organized and planned
(05:35):
out and widespread effort to undermine the rule of law
and to stop the administration from effectively conducting these operations
when it comes to immigration enforcement. Whatever resources are necessary,
are are should be deployed. Whatever the federal government needs
(05:56):
to do here. You know, we've seen this in the past.
We've seeing how they'll send soldiers to the schoolhouses with
Civil Rights Act.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Whatever they got to do here, they gotta do.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Is it fair to say that Trump one point zero
maybe the most disappointing decision that was made not situation
that arose, but decision that was made was not aggressively
enough trying to stamp out the BLM protests.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I think if you go back.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
In time summer of twenty twenty, I think the Trump
team made the decision that this was going to burn
itself out more rapidly than it did. And unfortunately, what
we got was actual burning of so many different cities.
And like I said, you can go back. The data
is clear.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Twenty twenty. Twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Murder rates skyrocketed all over the country as police were
not allowed to do their job. My concern is that
we are seeing the same kind of opposition to ICE
that we saw to police in twenty twenty. Let's be honest,
a lot of times it's difficult when there's a police
raid going on, or an FBI raid going on, or
an ICE raid going going on, to know exactly who
(07:02):
the authorities are that are conducting that raid. And so
I think Trump has to come in aggressively. We saw
him do it, and I think he set the tone
in the agenda and the precedent in LA. It wasn't
that long ago, Buck, Remember when the way moos were
burning and they were throwing things at police officers and
at ICE agents like crazy, and you had Mayor Karen
(07:24):
Bath speaking out about how unacceptable it was. Trump surge
support for ICE agents in Los Angeles, and by and
large that story vanished. They put in place the rule
of law. Now they file lawsuits, and they said, oh,
remember Cavin Newsom said Trump can't call out the National Guard.
He doesn't have this authority. Clearly does he has the
(07:45):
authority to call it out. Minneapolis has emerged as the
flashpoint I think of far left wing activism anywhere in
the country. Tim Walls and Mayor Fry are encouraging this
in Minneapolis. I think President Trump needs to surge law
enforcement resources and needs to send the message we're not
letting this spread. Ice is going to do their job.
(08:05):
We've got their back, and we're going to continue to
implement the raids and policies that were already in place.
This is, to me a crucible decision for the President.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
It's also very obviously where the Democrats believe they will
break the back of this administration and turn the tide
just in time for the midterms. Yes, they think that
they can do two things here. One, energize the Democrat base.
Get them all, Oh, we're the new civil rights heroes
and we're they're standing up for illegals in some cases,
(08:37):
as people are preventing arrests of like rapists and pedophiles
and murderers and gang members, and they think they're heroes
for this, which is completely insane. But that's where the
Democrat base is. This is all that got. I mean,
they're not going to win on on women can have penises.
I mean, we saw that at the Supreme Court. That's
actually which is the strong basis of the Democrat party too.
There it turns out that's actually not true Democrats, and
(08:59):
you can and keep saying it's true, but it's still
not true.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
And we're not.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Going to change our minds on this one. So they
think that immigration is where they can make their stand,
and they also know that this is where Trump cannot
break his compact with his voters this time around. First administration,
first time, some bumps, some lessons, everything else.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
This is it.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Trump's got this and this term only to figure this out.
And that's why I think that whatever it takes to
dutifully and faithfully enforce these laws in Minneapolis and elsewhere
is what the administration should do. I think Trump knows
this is an all in moment for his agenda and
for his second term.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
No doubt. And so again we will see.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
And unfortunately, I think what you are seeing is the
mayor of Minneapolis and the Governor of Minnesota, Tim Walls
and Fry, Jacob Fry, they have made ice agents targets.
They are encouraging people to target them. I hate to
say it, But unfortunately it feels self evident that this
(10:03):
is going to happen. Buck, somebody in Minneapolis is going
to open fire on ICE agents. That is going to happen.
It feels inevitable to me, all of you know it,
because they are encouraging their crazy supporters, their.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Base to engage in this kind of behavior.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Remember that lunatic BLM supporter who killed I think it
was five cops in Dallas, yep. And many of us
had been saying, they're calling for violence against cops. This
is going to get out of control. They're calling not
only are they calling for violence against ICE. And this
is from across the board others. Because when you say
someone is a Gestapo, every movie we've ever seen, what
(10:42):
do you want to happen to the Gestapo agents? And
sometimes it does? Right that Inglorious Bastard's movie or whatever, Right,
but what do you want to happen? You want someone
to take out the evil Gestapo guy Indiana Jones? What
do you want the Nazis face is to be melted off?
And all that. This is so when you're calling people
Gestapo and Nazis and SS, which is what they're calling ICE,
(11:02):
and I mean members of Congress.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You want bad.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Things to happen to them, Yes, And not only do
they want bad things to happen to them if an
ice agent, God forbid, but if an ice agent is
killed in the conduct of his duty, you'll go on
blue sky if you want that night they'll be. They'll
be maniac commal of voters celebrating it all over the internet,
all over the inn The people that pretended to care
so much about the rule of law.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Oh, the insurrection January sixth.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
All of a sudden, law enforcement they they will celebrate
the murder of a law enforcement officer if it happens
all over the internet.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Clay, you know it, and I know it. And that's
there take in this country to.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
They're putting targets on all of them. The behavior is unacceptable.
And again the fact that Minneapolis is sort of the
hornet's nest of opposition, I think we have to send
a message that this is unacceptable. We can't allow it
to spiral and spread. We saw what Trump did in
la I think it was effective, and the same thing
(12:00):
needs to happen in Minneapolis. I actually think Buck the
best advantage we have in Minneapolis right now. It's going
to sound crazy, is that it's super cold, because when
the George Floyd BLM protests began it was May. It
was May of twenty twenty, weather was getting better. You've
talked about the fact that protesters by and large show
up in bigger numbers when the weather is good and
(12:21):
it's super cold in Minneapolis. Notwithstanding the reaction and the
opposition that we're seeing right now, I think it's easier
to tamp down this behavior right now than it would
be in May or June. I should expect it, though,
because we're going into an election year. The timing on
this is not coincidental.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
It's like we were there for the inauguration and we
saw that sad protest that we've talked about in the
show before, the old ladies with their teeth chattering, all
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Almost exactly one year ago today, we were doing the
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we were seeing was exactly that situation.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
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Speaker 2 (13:06):
You know.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
It was a sad, sad spectacle out there. So yes,
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Speaker 4 (15:17):
The second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Now.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yogi Barro once said, it's deja vu all over again.
Who was a clever fellow?
Speaker 6 (15:25):
That?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yogi's Barra, Who's a sports fellow too? Play from what
I have great Yankees.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Catcher, and here we have that feeling because a member
of Congress has returned, you will recall to what a
previous member of Congress said. I think it was back
in twenty eighteen when AOC was leading the charge on
abolish ice. You aren't you seeing the connections here? My
(15:53):
friends Trump's first term. What was really the first thing
that wasn't Russia Kalouzion where they really dug in. Now
that was all a fabrication, as we know, that was
a lie. It was deep state soft coup and all
of that. But it was on immigration, Clay that they
(16:14):
made their first real stand against Trump policy and had
to do with the family separation policy. That was the thing,
Oh my gosh, and it was AOC remember that in
addressed all in white crying holding the fence, and you
started to hear abolish ICE was this slogan. That was
(16:34):
the phrase, We're going to abolish. The problem with that,
of course, is why wouldn't you get rid of the
law that ICE is enforcing? Well, because then you'd have
to just be open borders and everybody would know it.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
So what they want to do is get rid.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Of the agency that enforces this law, but keep the
law on the books, because then you won't have to
have the political conversation and members of Congress won't have
to take vote to show that they open borders. Anyway
that it fizzled, but it is very much now back
this time not because of border enforcement, because Trump got
(17:08):
that one down. He figured out, you want to talk
about learning from the first time out. Trump two point
zero has locked this border down. It is secure, uh,
Trump one point zho. They got them on the family
separation issue because this was all being exploited. It was
all parts of immigration law that were there's complexities in this,
(17:29):
but basically they figured out, if you show up with
a kid, you get to just come into the country.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
So then emer starts showing up with the kids.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
They go, well, we're gonna start, you know, processing the parents,
and we're gonna and the kids are gonna be held
in a separate facility. And then, oh my gosh, you're
breaking a family whole thing.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Clay. I bring this up.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Because this guy who's a member of Congress, which is
even for Congress, pretty hard to believe when you when
you check this guy out shre Thanadar.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
You see this guy, Oh yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
With the ridiculous hair for people who have I mean
it's maybe not saying, but I mean, this guy looks
his hair maybe the most ridiculous wig in all of Congress.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
It's pretty remarkable. He also speaks with a very thick
foreign accent, Okay, and he is. So you have the
guy with probably the thickest foreign accent in Congress telling
everybody that we need to get rid of the agency
that enforces immigration law. Cut twelve wants to abolish ICE.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
Listen to this, Ice is beyond reform. Ice is totally
out of control. And this week I intend to introduce
a bill to abolish ice. We need to make ice
go away.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
I just want to know, come on, Clay, that they
did this before, though this isn't the first time we've
been here. Abolish ice so everyone gets to your question
before about how many illegals.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Everyone gets to stay.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, the Democrat position, you're increasingly seeing all that stuff
about how they want to enforce the law too, and
they want some cre They just the immigration system's broken.
They want to fix it. No, actually they want it
to be broken. They broke it.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Well, they want open borders.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
And I think that guy we just heard from if
I'm not mistaken team in New York, you can research it.
I think he was the first one to introduce impeachment
proceedings against President Trump. I mean, obviously did not get
very many votes, but that is the reality under which
this motivation is occurring, because Trump has for the first time.
(19:35):
I don't know if you saw this story out there
for the first time. I think in several generations. I
think going back to before Reagan, there were fewer people
that came into the country during Trump two point zero,
like we actually had to decline in migrants.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
In entire net. Migration play is negative in Latin last
year for the first time since the nineteen twenties, which is.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
An incredible data point.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Yes here, I've actually got the numbers monthly flow about
I've got the monthly flow of net immigration fifty It's
basically been fifty thousand a year for the last thirty years,
and then under Biden went to two hundred thousands. Biden
just kicked the borders open everybody. This is what they did.
And now with Trump, it's negative one hundred and forty
(20:28):
five thousand per month so far in the first year.
And now look the exact numbers. Tom Holman, I actually
saw him yesterday at the White House. Tom Holman believes
that two million people roughly have self deported, that has
leave the left the country on their own. And we
know that there's been deportation of around six hundred thousand people.
(20:49):
So the number out there, I think that that number
is based on that you just referenced, is roughly two
point six million people leaving.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Tom Homan said that there's twenty million illegal in the country,
so roughly that would mean about ten percent of the
illegal population left in year one. The challenge you're seeing there,
if you do basic math on this is even if
Trump kept the exact same pace up and the self
deportation percentages remain the same. We're still basically getting to
(21:21):
a place where we're narrowly I mean, we're getting down
to twelve million illegals instead of twenty. It's a huge number.
And this was really the calculus behind Biden opening up
the border. It was that when all these people get here,
it basically becomes impossible to ever get them to leave.
And that's the calculus. This was not a four year plan.
(21:46):
This is a multi generational plan by which they want
to change the character and the populace of the United States.
It's very calculated in intent, and Trump is pushing back
against it.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
You have some really crazy and reckless things being said
by members of Congress. For example, well one here is
Hakeem Jeffries, former Speaker of the House. This has cut sixteen.
He's just saying, he keeps repeating this thing about how
they're brutalizing immigrant families play sixteen.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
Clearly significant reform needs to take place as it relates
to the manner in which ICE is conducting itself. Ice
is using taxpayer dollars to brutalize American citizens and to
unnecessarily and viciously target law abiding immigrant families and communities.
The whole premise that Donald Trump's sold to the American
(22:38):
people was that this immigration enforcement activity was going to
target violent felons. It's not targeting violent felons. They're targeting
American families, brutalizing American communities. And now as we've seen
killing American citizens, this is out of control.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Oh, this is what they rutalize.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, this is look, I mean Renee Good deep down
when she was shot. Every Democrat politician like Haakim Jefferies
was excited by this. And you can say, well, Clay,
you're being cruel there when you say this.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Not really.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Axeo said they had a story this summer where they
specifically laid out that Democrats were training people and they
were hoping that there would be a violent act so
that they could use that as an argument of a
political nature to try to stop these ice raids from occurring.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
This was they're hoped for action.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I hate to say it, but they hope that others
will be shot to They are willing to sacrifice on
the altar of politics life. And it's quite clear because
then they can come out and they can say, see,
this is what happens. American citizens are being brutalized and
killed by Ice. This is unacceptable. This is what they
(23:55):
wanted to happen. This is why they're telling everybody to
show up with their phones. This is why they're telling
everybody get in the face of all these ICE agents.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
This is why you have.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
So many people, so many people that have decided to
make it their life's work to show up and scream
and bang pots and pans and honkhorns and insult and
spit on all these ICE agents out there, and they're
just making the situation. Anger isolence is going to ensue.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And this is why I said.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Earlier in the last hour, Buck, I'm already angry because
I know that ICE agents are going to get murdered.
It's just a question of when we've already seen it.
They have set the kettle to boil, and it's inevitable
what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
You know it. I know it.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Every person out there listening knows that we're going to
turn on our televisions or we're going to look down
at our phones and there's going to be innocent ICE
agents murdered. And you pointed out Buck on Blue Sky,
they'll be tap dancing on their graves.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
They're also absolutely and they're also preparing to blame ICE
and the murdered ICE agents for the violence that you
and I both see as imminent against them. Over at CNN,
Abby Phillip, the tactics of ICE that's putting them at risk.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Play fourteen.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
DHS says that this was a targeted enforcement operation and
that the ICE officer was attacked. And I do think
that is exactly the type of situation that we want
as few of those situations as possible to transpire. And
yet it seems like all the time there are all
kinds of interactions happening where ICE officers are put in
(25:37):
danger and I'm not sure if it's all just because
of you know, violent people attacking them. Sometimes it's also
the tactics that I think are putting them in at risk,
the vehicle stops, which there have been some reporting about
how these vehicle stops are so dangerous.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
The vehicle stops are dangerous because the gang members they're
trying to the rest don't want.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
To be arrested.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, yeah, go fig you this is crazy stuff that is,
but I'm telling you this is gonna be a thing. Well,
if they hadn't been in these communities, the terrible thing
that you and I think is gonna happen. I agree
with you. I think it's gonna happen as a matter
of days. If they hadn't been in these communities, it
would have happened. Imagine if we took that approach to
straight up like gang enforcement activities by cops.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Right.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Oh, if they hadn't been making those arrests of the
bloods and the cryps, they wouldn't have had the cops
to shoot at in the first place.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Well, this is the argument they made in Washington, d C.
When the guy traveled across the country and killed two
innocent National Guards people. I guess killed one and severely
wounded the other. I believe that's the final result. I
think the one of I think they were both from
West Virginia. If I'm not mistaken, I think one of
those individuals survived.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
They said, this.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Is Trump's fault for calling out the National Guard. They
created this situation. Look, they motivated that crazy person, who,
if I remember correctly, was an Afghan refugee who was
led into the country without being soundly vetted, who lost
his mind, who drove across the country and killed two
(27:12):
or attempted to kill two innocent people, among others. When
this happens with Ice, what did they immediately say? Even
the media put up like, oh, look, Trump made these
people targets by trying to reduce violent crime, by trying
to make the city of Washington safe. You notice, Buck,
you're not hearing much about how effective that has been.
(27:34):
I'm in Washington, DC right now. City is way safer
statistically than it has been almost in a generation.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Nobody's talking about it.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
This is what the left does, whether it's fighting against
any kind of terrorists, fighting against crime, it's always the
thing you're doing to address the problem is the real problem. Yes,
the fighting against the bad thing is the cause of
the bad thing. Classic communist tactic. Total nonsense.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yesterday I saw President Trump in the Oval Office and
I actually thanked him for the impact that the surge
is having in Memphis. Again, nobody's talking about it. New
Orleans way safer, Washington, d C. Way safer. President wants
to go into a lot of other cities and make
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But Caroline Levitt is right now in the White House
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Speaker 2 (30:21):
Let's listen.
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Speaker 1 (31:28):
Okay, so, but clearly there has been a calculated attempt
for the start of twenty twenty six. When you look
at the President with plans on home affordability, healthcare. Even
we had that big discussion about credit card interest debt,
the President has decided.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
That affordability is going to be a big part.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Of twenty twenty six, and I think he's recognized that
it may well decide the outcome of the midterm elections,
not necessarily what the data shows, but how people are
feeling about the day and whether it feels like he
understands the concerns.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Of people like them.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
We got smoked in the twenty eighteen midterms, and the
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going to repeal Obamacare. We didn't repeal Obamacare, and it
was it was a rough one. And so again notice
Frump the team. They've learned lessons, which is what you want, right.
You want people to understand they're getting ahead of this,
(32:27):
they're on it. And I think that really pricing and
transparency and making as much of this as more of
this market based is those are the basic principles you
want to increase. I mean, we have screwed healthcare up
in this country so much, so badly. It's pretty astonishing
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actually how.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
And all you do is look at what it costs
the government gets involved in anything, look at what education costs,
look at what health care cost the more the government
decides to weigh in on anything that you go look
at like compare healthcare cost buck, I saw a good
graphic on this that I thought was super interesting. Compare
the pace of healthcare cost with flaskreen televisions. Do you
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remember a generation ago when a flatscreen television basically cost
an arm and a leg I mean it felt like
when you got that first h D flatscreen television, it
costs four or five thousand dollars?
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Was how much those things cost.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
I remember needing help from friends in college to carry
like my big ass TV up the stairs because I
think it weighed about one hundred and something pounds. I mean,
it was a mess.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
And now you go to Walmart, or you go to
Costco or Sam's or any of these places, you could
get a forty five inch flat screen television for like
two hundred buck.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I mean, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Government gets out of the way, things get cheaper, government
gets involved, things get way more expensive. Unfortunately, that's a
lesson that a lot of people in on Capitol Hill
still haven't learned. We come back Buck Greenland, Greenland Talk
Kamala Harris, your girl one hundred and seven days. She
now has an eight million dollar house in Malibu. We
(34:05):
will dive into both of those stories, among others, will
keep you updated on what's going on in Minneapolis as
well as we roll into the final hour Thursday edition
of the program. I bet they paid her so much
for that crappy book.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Even though it didn't start. This is the one.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
This is one of these because a lot of these
big publishers they're just run by libs or libs, and
they will write a huge check to some Democrat politician
just as like it's good for the cause.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yes, no way, Kama's book. I read it.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
It is terrible. It is terrible. The house eight million
dollars she's cashing in.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
We'll talk about it next week.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Oh, welcome back in now number three Clay Travis Buck
Sexton Show, Thursday edition of the program. We appreciate all
of you hanging out with us and what continues to
be a tumultuous crazy time with tons of different stories
that we are tracking on a minute by minute basis.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Frankly, Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I heard us talking at the beginning of the show
in quite a lot already in the first couple of
hours about the disaster that is unschooling in Minneapolis in
the wake of yet another shooting where an ICE agent
was attacked. I went on Sean Hannity's show last night,
Buck talked about it, and we will continue. I am
sure to update you on that story as we progress.
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We're also continuing to update you on Iran reports, as
we talked about in the first couple of hours that
President Trump was poised to attack yesterday and at the
last moment chose not to based on the fact that
Iran made promises through third parties that they would not
be conducting executions of protesters. We will see whether that
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tamps down the tempest.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
In that relationship.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Right now, price of oil and gas came down substantially,
as maybe there is hope that there's not going to
be attacks coming there.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
As if that were not enough.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Ongoing discussion surrounding Greenland, as we have talked about during
the course of the show as well, Greenland representatives, Denmark
representatives in the White House yesterday trying to persuade President
Trump that he did not actually need to buy Greenland
and that did not go well. And President Trump still
wants to buy Greenland, as we were talking about earlier.
Maybe we'll dive into this and have a little bit
(36:18):
more fun with it. Do you know, Buck, what the
number one part of the Greenland economy, according to what
I read in the Wall Street Journal this morning, is
so fifty seven thousand people who live in Greenland. Obviously,
there's lots of talk about the long term value of
the minerals and all the different natural resources that could
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be associated with Greenland, its location near the Arctic Circle,
the impact of that. Trump is worried about Russia or
China ending up with Greenland and how that would impact
the overall status of the United States. All those things
are true, But right now, what is the number one
part of the economy of Greenland? And based on what
I read this morning in the Wall Street Journal, do
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you have any idea?
Speaker 4 (37:04):
I mean, I know in Iceland it's the fishing industry. Yeah,
I would assume in Greenland that's a big thing. But
also mining would be the next guest that I have.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Mining is not very substantial so far, and this is
very specific. According to the Wall Street Journal, it is shrimp.
It is basically so I nailed it actually out of
the gate shrimp. So we are talking about buying and
and the word is I was actually doing a little
bit of Greenland research because I wanted to know more
about it. That basically, Denmark gives a billion dollars a
(37:35):
year to support everyone who lives in Greenland because the
economy is otherwise not able to suffice buck.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
A huge percentage.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Of people in Greenland lack running water and actually shower
by melting ice. So if you thought I just I
read that this morning in the Wall Street Journal as
I was getting ready for our show.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
If you're out there now and.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
You're like, man, things are really tough for me, I
bet you're not showering with melted ice, which I would
imagine is pretty cold and not an intentional ice bath
as it were. But I thought that was interesting about Greenland,
just kind of giving you an idea. President Trump's idea
there is not based on what Greenland is now it is,
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as many developers and real estate appraisers and purchasers always do.
It's a projection of what the value of Greenland might
be a generation from now, two generations, three generations. And
remember Buck, and you're a history nerd too. When William
Seward bought Alaska, everyone derided the purchase of Alaska as
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Seward's folly in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War,
and it ended up being one of the most brilliant
acquisitions in the history of the United States because Alaska
has become such a beacon of natural resources and such
an incredible value play over time. But in the short
term there have been lots of ridicule Heck, even some
(39:03):
people ridiculed Thomas Jefferson when he bought the Louisiana purchase
back in eighteen oh three from France. So long, forward
looking is the decision here as it pertains to Greenland.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
This is not a short term flip play.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
As all the housing shows out there that everybody likes
to watch, you know, I'm sure you've seen Buck with
the guys like a painter and the wife is like
a daycare worker, and their budgets like eight hundred thousand
dollars for a house, and everybody's always like, how is
that possible? This is not a fixer upper flopper. This
is a long term.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Play, absolutely, and real estate in so many ways has
been a good long term play. Donald Trump, more than
almost anybody knows that.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
And I would say this play.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Maybe things are gonna get a little warmer in Greenland
because there the planet there has been so warming, not
that much. It's climate change is not a catastrophe and
all that stuff, But let's just say things got a
little bit warmer over time. I think it'd be great.
There's plenty of to believe it would be great. They
don't really believe in climate change, though they only believe
in climate change when it benefits them, which is my
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pivot point here to something that I insist we discussed
for a moment. Yes, Kamala Harris, I know where you're going,
Kamala Harris. I'm going from Greenland to Malibu, Baby, I am.
I am hopping a jet taking us all over the world.
This is the world tour with the Buckster. We're going
from Greenland to Malibu. Really, I will say, among the
(40:27):
most beautiful places in America, full of people with the
worst politics, but Malibu is really nice. Yes, the sushi
restaurant there, the Nobu there, very very spectacular, right on
the beach.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
And here's what I'll say, Kamala Harris just bought an
eight million dollar house with her lawyer husband there.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
And I would note a few things.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
First of all, she's clearly not scared of the erosion
of the beaches or the cliffs. Okay, why you're suggesting
that Kamala Harris is not actually worried at all about
climate change, because she, like all of the other super
Hollywood celebs who claimed to be worried about climate change,
is actually buying a beachside home.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yes, yeah, it's amazing. How that.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
Remember when Barack Obama mister climate change is an existential
threat to America, he was he That was the big
phrase of the Obama years. There was there was really
an unholy and evil tripod of Obamaism, and it was healthcare, amnesty,
you know, Obamacare, amnesty, climate change. Those were the three
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big things.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
There. Also was was like the George Floyd.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
And not George Floyd, but the BLM, you know that
stuff the first time around. But that wasn't so much
policy as messaging, or at least not a big law.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Thing that they tried to pass necessarily.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
Clay Obama got a probably it's like a thirty million
dollar now, but like a fifteen million dollar beachfront mansion
in Martha's Vineyard.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
No one actually believes this.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
I know he's been talking for a while about climate change,
has fallen out of the conversation, but this is the
climate change. None of the people, the biggest advocates, believe this.
They all want ocean front property and they want it
in California and Hawaii and Martha's vineyards. Low lying Martha's
Vineyard is that sea level.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
They don't care.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
They don't believe in any of this stuff. And Kamala
also such a phony. Oh it's about rich people paying
that rich people are so bad? Well, what contributions is
Kamala made? Wrote a terrible book? Would you make me
read because you go to me? Do it on your own.
I believe that, yes, one hundred and seven days eight
million died, felt like one hundred and seven days to
(42:40):
read it. Eight million dollar house and this in Malibu,
I mean the most, the most you know, hoity toity,
fancy pants place in America pretty much. And look you
might say, well, Trump lives at Marlagoing. Yeah, Trump doesn't
pretend to be something he's not. Kamala is social justice warrior.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
She's just been.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Enriching herself her whole life. I don't beg anybody who
decides that they want to have a nicer home. I
don't begrudge anybody who wants to live near the ocean
or near the lake, or near anywhere else. But when
you have spent much of your career, this is a
great point telling us all that the world is going
to end, and that climate change, you know, we're all
going to be under sea. And if you live in
New York City or you live in Miami, or you
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live in Los Angeles, or wherever the heck it is
on the coast, that at some point you're going to
be inundated by rising waters. It is incredible several things.
First of all, the prices of real estate on coastal
communities continues to skyrocket everywhere in the entire United States.
So even if you were let's pretend that everybody else
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thought that climate change was real, you would see prices
collapsing right on the waterfront.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Instead, they are skyrocket. Here's the other thing, Buck Malibu.
If you really thought that the.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
World was going to come to an end because of
climate change, right, that it was going to be and
equally destructive, Malibu might be the worst place in America
to pay eight million dollars for a house because they
have the wildfires. As you well know, much of Malibu
got hit by the wildfires, which they tried to claim
was based on climate change. But as we talked about
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when it happened a year ago, actually because of American
and human ingenuity, we have limited drastically the amount of
wildfires that take place in California, which have been going
on since basically time immemorial. Because of the actual unique
geographic constraints of Malibu. But it's not even just the
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rising seas, Buck, it is that you would look around
and you would say, boy, this is a really dangerous
place based on wildfires caused by climate change. To buy
an eight million dollar home instead, she did it. Instead,
she did it. And you know what, she's gonna be
like Bernie Sanders. Remember how Bernie was all anti homes.
How many homes does Bernie have?
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Now?
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Like three? At least three? Yeah, at least three.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Social yes, has at least three homes. Kamala now has
an eight million dollar beach side manner for her and
her lovable Dougie m Hoff, he of the likes to
slap chicks standards that nobody talks about, right, And so
I hope the two of them live in wetted bliss and.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Maybe Buck, maybe.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
This, uh, this decision to pay eight million dollars for
this home will even more make that steak when I
put it to my mouth, even tastes better when she
runs for president in twenty twenty eight, because she's got
to pay.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
I got a little out of my ski. It's a
little aggressive. Look.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
She's gonna get absolutely blown out and she's not gonna
be the nominee. But my my, she's not even gonna
run call get it nervous. I'm I'm not gonna say that, like,
don't don't buy any real estate on Buck Island. Two
point zero On this one, guys, I may be I
may be way off on this one.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
I meant to mention, by the way, as we go
to break here, I was down in the Virgin Islands
over Christmas break. There is a Buck Island there. I
saw it on the map, so it is still above
the water.
Speaker 7 (46:03):
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Speaker 1 (46:03):
I think it's uninhabited, as one might expect given the
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