May 8, 2026 • 36 mins
In Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton blend political analysis, pop culture curiosity, and national security intrigue, with a heavy focus on newly released UFO and UAP (unidentified aerial phenomenon) files, while also revisiting key political developments such as redistricting battles, the 2026 midterm outlook, and economic indicators. This hour of the program is driven by breaking disclosure news alongside broader conversations about trust in government, technology, and evolving political strategy.
The hour opens with a quick recap of major headlines, including continued discussion of the Virginia Supreme Court redistricting decision, which significantly impacts congressional balance by preserving a narrower Democratic margin instead of a heavily skewed map. The hosts emphasize how this ruling strengthens Republican prospects in the House of Representatives and ties into ongoing redistricting changes across states like Tennessee, Alabama, Louisiana, and South Carolina. They frame the issue as central to midterm election strategy, gerrymandering debates, and congressional control, noting that prediction markets are already reflecting improved Republican odds.
The primary focus of Hour 2, however, is the release of long-anticipated UFO files and government disclosure documents, which the hosts treat as both a serious and entertaining topic. Buck recounts conversations with senior intelligence and defense officials suggesting that the documents could contain significant revelations, while Clay introduces public reaction and polling on whether Americans believe in extraterrestrial life. The hosts review details from the initial document releases, including historical NASA mission data, astronaut reports, and recent military footage showing unexplained aerial objects exhibiting unusual flight patterns and characteristics.
Despite the buildup, Buck remains skeptical of the material released so far, arguing that grainy footage and unexplained anomalies do not constitute proof of extraterrestrial life. Clay, by contrast, remains open to the possibility and even explores speculative theories, including the idea that these phenomena could be linked to time travel rather than alien civilizations, reflecting broader curiosity about technological and scientific frontiers.
A key segment of Hour 2 features an in-depth interview with Congressman Tim Burchett, who provides insight into congressional efforts to investigate UFOs and government transparency. Burchett argues that there has been a long-standing effort within the federal government—often referred to as the “deep state”—to withhold information from both the public and elected officials. He claims that credible testimony from military pilots and engineers supports the existence of unexplained aerial craft with capabilities beyond any known human technology, raising serious questions about national security and technological advancement.
The discussion expands into possible explanations for UFO sightings, including foreign adversary technology, secret U.S. programs, or non-human origins. Burchett dismisses the likelihood that countries like China or Russia possess such advanced capabilities, suggesting that if they did, geopolitical realities would look very different. This conversation ties the UFO issue directly into national security, defense policy, and technological competition, adding depth beyond pure speculation.
The interview also transitions into energy policy and economic concerns, as Burchett highlights gas prices as a key factor influencing voter sentiment and Republican chances in upcoming elections. He argues that energy costs remain a critical political issue, reinforcing the broader show theme that inflation, fuel prices, and economic perception will play decisive roles in the 2026 midterms.
Following the interview, the hosts return to lighter but still topical content, including listener call-ins describing alleged UFO sightings, adding a personal dimension to the discussion. They also explore related cultural phenomena such as Bigfoot and other unexplained mysteries, using humor to balance the more serious geopolitical and scientific themes discussed earlier.
Throughout Hour 2, Clay and Buck consistently tie the UFO conversation back to broader issues of public trust, government transparency, technological advancement, and media narratives. They note that in the modern information environment, skepticism is high and many people may dismiss even compelling evidence as artificial intelligence or misinformation, highlighting a growing challenge in shaping public consensus.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Friday edition. We are
updating you on everything going on right now. The US
is expecting a response from Iran on the latest peace proposal.
(00:23):
We will see how that all goes. In the meantime,
SNP five hundred to a record high, Nasdaq to a
record high, the dal Jones closer to a record high.
And let's see, we've got several different stories out there.
Obviously the biggest one the Virginia Supreme Court striking down
the new map in Virginia. It will remain the case
(00:44):
that Democrats have a six to five advantage and not
a ten to one advantage in the in Congress. They
spend around different different dollar figures floating around out there,
but around seventy million dollars to pass this referendum, only
to have it struck down now by the Virginia Supreme Court.
(01:06):
Odds of Republicans winning the House are up substantially off,
up at six month highs. We will see how exactly
that continues to play out, and we will take your
talkbacks and your reactions. But I thought we could have
some fun by the way, Ryan Gerdusky, our favorite data
nerd from the Clay and Buck podcast network, is going
(01:28):
to be with us in the third hour of this program.
We'll get the latest from him on this and by
the way, again, yesterday Tennessee passed a new map that
would take away one Democrat seat. We've got Alabama, and
we have Louisiana both and South Carolina all three and
(01:49):
different elements of trying to address their maps in the
wake of the Supreme Court striking down racial jerrymanders. Okay, Buck,
let's have some fun. Tim Burchet, congressman from Tennessee, is
going to join us at the bottom of the hour.
He responded on Twitter when I asked him how much
(02:12):
the revelations about UFOs that are going to be released,
that have started to be released today are going to
impact many of us, He said, it's going to be
a holy crap moment. That was a phrase I used
a ten on the scale of one to ten. Yesterday,
intelligence expert Buck Sexton was sitting with a table of
(02:34):
intelligence experts, and you texted last night that the conversation
came up about some of these documents being released. Tell
that story again and let's have some fun. It is
after all, Friday and these have been released. That's all
the news updates. We're monitoring everything if anything crazy happens.
But they did start to release the so called UFO
(02:55):
files this morning. What was your conversation last night, Let's
have some fun.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well, I was talking to a whole range of people,
a Secretary of War, FBI Director Patel, Deputy Director National
Intelligence at chatting with all these different folks who are there,
as well as a bunch of assorted policy experts from
the non government side.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
We're at this.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Gala and one of the things that kept coming up
I thought it would be around Iran, but no one
was talking about Iran. The chatter, if you will, was
about this UFO stuff. And a couple of the very
senior guys that were there were saying to me that
(03:40):
they were skeptics very much of all of this, like
I was, but they are less skeptical now and that
the documents will speak for themselves and the documents are
being released as per presidential order. So Clay, I mean,
that's that's pretty bold stuff to hear. I know they're
gonna be people online, by the way, who say this
(04:00):
is a distraction from Epstein or something. You know, guys,
not everything can be a distraction from the Epstein files.
I'm just going to point that out. This is it is,
in fact the case and other things happen in the
world than the Epstein files.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
But one hundred and sixty two.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Documents, so sorry, Yeah, documents, videos, images, different files here
from different agencies, FBI, DoD This has all been put
out by the government.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
To be clear, this has been released.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
So you have some of the notable highlights Clay NASA
Apollo mission stuff. We'll going back to nineteen sixty nine,
nineteen seventy two photos and astronaut transcripts from Apollo twelve
and seventeen showing unexplained bright particles, tumbling, jagged fragments, and
anomalies like three dots in a triangular formation above the
(04:53):
lunar surface. Okay, eh, socks not blown off yet. Gemini
seven mission nineteen sixty five, audio transcripts of ASTA astronauts
reporting unidentified objects. Recent military censor footage from twenty twenty four. Okay,
now we're getting a little more infrared videos, including a
(05:14):
US INDO Pacific command clip of a football shaped object
and other orbs lights showing maneuvers, hovering, glowing spheares or
translucent kite like objects, and then there's some other things here. Yeah,
I'm still not a believer. I gotta tell you, based
(05:37):
on what's come out today, we gotta when people say.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Well, what is this? There's also the I don't know,
but why should I care?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
If there's not little green men coming out of the UFO,
if there's not something behind all of this, if there's
some unexplained physical particle phenomena, like what was this thing
they called a tumbling jagged fragment? I didn't want the
hell of tumbling jagged fragment? Is why should I care? Clay,
I want little dudes that say et phone home, or
(06:08):
I want spaceships that actually land and have creatures in them.
I'm not even clear why this matters so much. That's right,
I'm going ba humbug on this so far. I want again.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
We're gonna talk with Tim Burchett about what he's seen, Congressman.
He says, it's going to be a holy crap moment.
I do think this is interesting. I had this kind
and I bet I put up a poll. By the way,
you guys can go vote we'll retweet it from the
Clay and Buck account. Thousands of you have weighed in,
(06:41):
and the question was do you think there's alien life forms?
And the secondary part of that, have they ever visited Earth?
Which is maybe for a lot of people a bridge
too far. You may believe in alien life forms and
just believe in the universe, they haven't been here. So
I told him last night, I said, hey, Buck texted
(07:03):
that they're going to start to release some of the
UFO files. I was telling him this last night. My
oldest he is super science nerdy. He is a really
smart kid. And he said, you know, Dad, my theory
on all of this, and I said, you know what,
that's kind of interesting. He said, my theory is that
these are time travelers. And he said that at some
(07:26):
point in human history we're going to figure out how
to time travel. And he said that his theory on
why UFOs are so much more likely to be spotted
in and this is true United States, China, and in England.
Those are the leading places where UFOs are cited. He said,
(07:47):
if you were from the future, you would want to
go back and see civilization at a time when it
was interesting. In US, China, England. You would want to
go see the places where there is some sort of advancement.
You probably aren't going to be interested in going back.
I mean, I was kind of thinking about it. He's
probably right. You probably aren't going to be interested in
(08:10):
going to Africa and going to go look at wildebeests
on their transit across Savannah. You're gonna want to go
see America. You're gonna want to go see China. You're
gonna want to go see these areas that are the
focal point of life that you have studied. That I
actually find to be somewhat intriguing because it does make
(08:33):
sense to me that at some point in time we
may figure out a way to time travel. And this
is I understand some of you are going to think
this is crazy talk. You don't think so I do.
I think we're gonna figure out a way to time
travel at some point in time.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
You So, we just went from all the UFO stuff
is going to be so profound to hey, we're even
gonna find out about time travel.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
No, I'm kind of sure that we're gonna find out.
That's where it's coming from. But I do think that
is an interesting thesis. This is my kid.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
You could throw him under the bus if you want.
But his theory is these are not alien life forms.
This is humanity thousands of years into the future that
you would be and it makes total sense to me.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Like it's a very interesting theory.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
But I'm just so, where are you on these documents
that were released today?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Though?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Oh, I think I'm gonna I'm gonna lean. I trust
Tim Burchett, Congressman from Tennessee. He says, as these continue
and Anna Pauline a Luna who we need to get on.
They say they've seen stuff that's gonna make people say
holy crap. So I'm trusting that there's gonna be some
holy crap moments now. I will I will say this
(09:44):
phrase when you think about it. By the way, I'm
a holy moly or something, But go ahead, this is
holy holy holy Moly is really a funny phrase. I
haven't used that in a long time. You have so
far been right on Every document release is a want wamp,
(10:06):
like there's every single one.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Thank you for putting that out, Clay, Oh book. The
JFK files are such big stuff from the JIFF. No,
there's not. I'm here to tell you there's not now.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I was told by people that I trust last night
that there's really interesting stuff in these UFO files, But
so far it's a wamp wamp.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
What would it take for you to come on this
show and just say, holy moly your phrase, but for
you to come on and we opened the show and
your first two words are holy moly, what.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Would you need to see?
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Well?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I love me be I will give you something on
this and we'll have Tim burchon on who could try
to convince me that there's something going on here. You
remember when Venkman in Ghostbusters. This would be the second
Ghostbusters reference on the show. It's one of the great
all time cinematic classics. Remember when when he's resting skepticism
about things and Ray Ray says, you forget I was
(11:08):
present for a vast, unexplained undersea sponge migration. And then
he got and then and then Venkman is like Ray,
this sponges migrated about a foot and a half. The
point is, even if there is some little speck on
a screen somewhere, who cares?
Speaker 5 (11:27):
I don't know?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
This is what I don't think. I understand. It means nothing.
Even if there was some thing we can't explain the outer.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Edges of the universe. Okay, we can't explain how it's possible.
We don't even know how we got here. There's so
many things that we can't explain that we know. We
can't explain that a little orb caught on some infrared camera.
I mean, if the orb starts talking to me and
says it wants to give me a back rub, then
I'll be impressed.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
What do you get? Nothing? You got nothing? No, no, no,
I'm just laughing. I think we have.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
So the alien thing is interesting to me because part
of it is the world that we live in now.
I think so much of this buck comes down to
once people make their minds up on something, how many
people are willing to be persuaded.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
That they were wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And I think about this all the time because it
really is the essence of politics in general, because we
have let's say, my guess would be there's about ten
percent of people that in any given election cycle are
willing to swing one way.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Or the other. And that might be too high.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
It would be so much better I think if people
were persuadable based on actual evidence. But I think there's
probably I think this is basically a fifty to fifty thing.
And I think there's lots of people who would not
believe that aliens were real until they just show up
knocking on their door and started doing crazy alien stuff
(13:04):
because a lot of people are in that minority.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
You made the joke, Do you think it's very funny?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
The Flat Earth guys and gals had a rough time
with the Artemis three with that trip. Flat hearts love
to argue America's you know that the flat Earth is
real when you've got all this evidence coming out from
the new trip up into space. But I do wonder
what would be required for the most there's no alien
(13:32):
life people to be willing to change their position on this,
And is there anything that could be released by our government,
Because here's the other thing that's going to happen, buck,
and this is going to happen for everything for all
time immemorial. Now, everybody's just going to say, whatever they
don't like, is AI. Prepare yourselves for this because AI
is accelerating at such a rapid rate that anything that
(13:54):
challenges your priors, whatever it might be, the number one
defense is going to be it's just AI, and it's
going to be impossible to convince people that it's not AI,
and so I do wonder how this is all going
to play out. But I'm excited to have Congressman Tim
Burchett on with us to tell us whether Buck might
actually say, holy Moly, with anything that's coming out.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
There, we go. I think it's highly unlikely. Just letting
you highly highly unlikely. Well, we did get good jobs numbers, everybody.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
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Speaker 2 (16:01):
Back, Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We got an
email in from Gerald, one of our VIPs. I don't
believe in UFOs. He puts in a subject line, I'm
with Buck on this. Now, if we ever have a
close encounter moment with a little green man and it
is broadcasted, then maybe why do they always probe hillbillies
and cows. I also don't believe in Bigfoot. You would
(16:24):
think by now we would have found bones.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
This is what's kind of the Elon position on this
to Clay, which is, if this stuff was real, it
wouldn't be hard to prove it's real. So why is
it so hard to prove it's real? Little Okham's razor
action going on here.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
I again, I respect these arguments. I would just say
that if if there is alien life and it has
traveled here, it is infinitely more intelligent than us, and
so our ability to even comprehend the laws of space
and time that exist. We don't have the tools to
(16:59):
explain how someone from a different dimension could get here.
We can barely get to the moon. We can't even
get to Mars right now. So the technology of any
alien life is so far beyond what we can comprehend
that we don't have the tools to even understand it.
I would just point out I love this about science
(17:21):
and history. Every generation thinks that they understand everything.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Go back and look.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
In the fifteen hundreds they were saying we are so
brilliant now, and in the thousands they were saying we
are so brilliant. Now, there is always something that we
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Speaker 1 (18:52):
Welcome back in Play Travis buck Sexton Show. We are
joined now by Congressman Tim Burr, Great State of Tennessee.
You have been talking about the release of the UFO files,
the unexplained aerial phenomenon, whatever people want to call it,
they have begun today. And Buck is of the opinion,
(19:15):
although he was with a bunch of the intel people
last night and they were telling him, Hey, there's gonna
be a lot in here. What should we know for
your perspective? Will there be holy moly, holy crap revelations
that eventually come out give us a sense of what
you have seen and where you think this is going.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
I think there will be. But I think the first
thing we have to be realize is that President Trump
had the guts to stand up to the deep state,
and he's They fought him every step of the way
on this thing. We were trying to do this earlier
and were blocked, and he stepped in and really manned
up on the thing. I'm not sure exactly why they
(19:56):
want to.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Hold Yeah, we hold on Congression. Why would the deep
state not want this stuff? What you know, help me
with this. I don't understand. Why do they care?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
That's a great question. That's a great question. It's power,
it's control, it's arrogance. You know, when you're sitting there
in a classified briefing with some little punk and a
man bund telling you that the president is on a
need to know basis, that that raises a very big question.
Why why is the president on a need to know basis?
(20:27):
Why isn't why is he not informed of this stuff
immediately upon taking office? It's it's just power out of control.
It's it is the classic deep state. I don't know
what else to call it. And I'm not really exactly
sure why they do it, but they do it, and
and they're continuing to do it, and they're fighting them.
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From what I understand, this first dump of records, you know,
according to the people that are behind the scenes, they
want to make at the last but the president's pushing
and they're going to start, and he's got his top
people on it, which makes me feel a whole heck
of a lot better about it. And I think we're
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going to get to the bottom of most of it.
I think it might just lead more questions than answers,
because people are still going to I think the main
question you need to ask is why are we spending
tens of millions of dollars on something at the federal
governments it's about nineteen forty seven has said do not exist?
And where is that money going? And what exactly have
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they found? That's what I want to get to the
bottom of.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
So what have you seen or what do you expect
that people will be able to see? I put up
a question, do you believe? Let me maybe, let me
start with this. I put up a question, do you
believe aliens alien life forms have ever visited Earth? Fifty
seven percent of people so far have said yes. I
am of that opinion. I also understand some people think
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I'm crazy for that opinion. Do you believe, based on
what you have seen in your general worldview, that aliens
have ever visited Earth? And do you think there is
evidence that is out there inside either our government or
other governments to support that idea?
Speaker 5 (22:19):
I have no doubt in my mind. I've seen too much.
I've talked to too many pilots, talked to too many engineers.
You watch the movie Agent Disclosure. I mean you've got
literally federal government scientists saying that these things exist. And two,
you got to ask yourself, why would a pilot who
is who's really just a trained. You know, they're a
(22:41):
trained tactician. And they're not like they show them in
the movies. They're not really like cowboys. They're more kind
of goobers that have an incredible grasp of math and
science and that fly half a billion dollar aircraft. Why
would they lie? Why would they would they have to
get a psychoval evaluation get pulled off the line. Some
(23:01):
of them had actually told me and and uh in
a meeting one time that they actually destroyed some evidence
from a from a camera because it was because they
knew what would happen. They would get pulled off the line,
they would be human, they would be humiliated by their peers,
and they might not fly again. And so there's just
(23:22):
a there's been a concerted effort for whatever reason, to
not let America see what's going on. And two, why
in the world would you you better be concerned when
something flies in our airspace without any any any any
(23:42):
control at all. I mean, these we we've scrubbed missions
because of these things. We've had helicopters that have literally
literally almost been brought down because these things were flying
so close to them in military installations. And so they say,
this is what some of the stuff is going to show,
(24:03):
and I and I look forward to it, And do
you think a lot of people go ahead?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I'm sorry, No, I'm sorry, Congressman. I just I'm very curious.
This is buck uh. Hey man, how you doing.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
I'm great. Hey, I'm a big I'm a big fan man.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I appreciate that. Thank you. It's good to have you.
Good to have you on the program.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I hope you will get my new book, by the way,
which I can't stop pitching, because when you spend so
much time writing a book, you just become a pitching machine.
But because it's about delusions and manufactured delusions, and I
worry sometimes that, for example, with the JFK file release,
there was a manufactured delusion that We're going to have
the smoking gun evidence of who I'm like. Guys, if
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it was in the files, it wouldn't be in the
files because we would already know what was in that file,
because there's no way you'd be able to keep that
secret for this long. This stuff, the the unexplained aerial
phenomena stuff. There are certainly a lot of people that
have day to points on this, But where I always
feel like it it goes is Okay, do we think
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this could be for an adversary activity like the Chinese
running some kind of program.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
We had the you know, the what was that crazy balloon?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
You guys remember the book the Biden era, the balloon
flying across the country, the weather balloon, satellite thing or
a surveillance thing.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Like, what's the I know it's unexplained phenomenon, but what
are the possible explanations that Congressman makes sense to you
based on what you have seen? Right, Like, take us
to the end of the story a little bit.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Okay, let's let's look at all of it. Let's look
at say it's the Russians. Somebody said, oh, I think
it's the Russians. Well, honestly, Buck, if it was the Russians,
they would not be bogged down and you know in
your Kraine right now and put in such an egomaniac
he would fly one of those things to the front
steps of the White House and get out bear tested
(25:55):
riding a unicorn and probably wrestle the president or something.
I don't know. But if it was China, they would
control us. And they're say they probably already do at
some level through our greed and the K Street lobbyists.
But uh, and then that leads as it ours, well,
why would we risk half a million dollar aircraft in
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our in our pilots in a situation where these things
buzz cockpits and buzz there. And I had a guy
tell me this thing was fourteen feet from his cockpit
as he looked out. Why would we risk their lives
when we know we value human life more than probably
any other country in the world. Case in point is
when that pilot went down in Iran, we spent untold
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millions of dollars to bring that guy home, and we
should have. It sends a message to our enemies, and
it sends a message to our fighting men and women,
were not going to leave you behind. So and then
the first committee meeting we had on it, when we
had we had navy people, we had scientists there and
these are sworn to testimony, and they said, does anybody
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on planet Earth have any have this capability? And they
said absolutely not, all three of them sworn testimony.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I can't wait to see as more of these objects
are revealed. Let me ask you this, Congressman, because in
addition to the UFOs going on, we had the ruling
come out from the Virginia Supreme Court. You are a
member of the Tennessee Congressional District. Tennessee has now passed
a new map in theory that will go into effect
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for the primary coming up in August. What do you
think of the map, what was your reaction to it?
And do you expect that Republicans will end up with
a nine to zero advantage as opposed to eight one
going forward in the wake of the anti racial gerrymandering
decision that was rendered by the Supreme Court.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
I think it's constitutionally sound and I think it's legal.
The Democrat did this back in like ninety four, I
believe in ninety six within our own state. They don't
know if y'all remember that they took fourteen district Republicans
and put them into seven seven spots, therefore keeping the majority.
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And there was no legal challenge because it's a political
entity and that's what the courts have ruled. And so
I think and to throw the race guard to me
is ridiculous because it's a you know, it's a.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Why uish guy Steve Cohen who actually represents that district
from Memphis right now.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Right, and he's white, So and then we ran a
black Democrat, I mean, excuse me, a black Republican lady
for that seat many three times, I believe, in a row,
and she lost every time. So I just don't think
it's the race issue. I think it's just a power issue,
and that's all it is. And I think the courts
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will hold it up. They'll they'll they'll uphold what the
legislature did.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Coninson Burchett, how do you think we're looking on the
Republican side just overall going into the House, given all
the factors as you can see them right now. I
know it's a ways out, but how are you feeling
about things right now?
Speaker 5 (29:19):
It's gonna I think it's gonna, honestly be up to
the price of gasoline. I know if I was a Democrat,
I sure would hang that on us. And you can't
get past degree of big old. And I know people
are gonna get mad when I say this, and they
always do, say, virtue, it's a commodity. You just don't
understand it. Well, it's a commodity that we we uphold
(29:39):
with with with tax credits and everything else and uh
and grants. Honestly, and if it was truly a true commodity,
then how the heck does the price of gasoline go
up that's in the tanks, that's been out of the ground,
that's been paid for immediately, it just goes up, and
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they're allowed to stick it to us. And if it
is truly a commodity, then how the heck why doesn't
that court of oil? If it's all about the price
of oil and it's true commodity form, then why doesn't
that court of oil down at the as hardware store go
up that you use for your lawnmower, or if you
change your own oil, why doesn't it go up exponentially
(30:21):
like others do. So it's it's you got the greed
of the of the big oil, and they're just allowed
to do it. And we'll call them into DC eventually
probably and have a hearing and they'll shower us all
with plenty of cash and and then we'll never see
and nothing will ever happen.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Congress, and Burchett of tennessee, great cud, you do you
have them? Sorry, we fall here that I choose to believe.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I choose to believe on the UFOs and the release,
and I'm excited to see what else comes out. Are
you as excited about this new University of Tennessee basketball
team as I am, Congressman. I think they've got a
real chance to win the national title next year.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
I do, and I love our coach. I can't tell
you I was probably shouldn't say this, but election night
A couple of years. I don't know two or three.
I've been in Congress for eight years, so I guess
it might have been six years ago. Maybe I was
working Gibbs High School. It was the very last pole
I was working before polls close. It was about seven
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fifty nine in my phone rang and it was the
coach and he said, Tim, you got two more in
the bank, go get them. Let in the world. But
I love that guy, really is.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Rick Bards is awesome. He really is a great dude.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
I'd love for him to get a Final four national
title on the way out before he finishes coaching.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
We appreciate the time, Congressman.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Appreciate y'all. You can always call me Tim.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Appreciate y'all, Appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
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Speaker 1 (33:31):
Welcome back in Play Travis Buck Sexton Show. We got
a UFO witness, Bob and Eerie, Pennsylvania. What happened? Bob
tell us about it?
Speaker 4 (33:43):
So so Me and that employee of mine. We're driving
down I seventy nine southbound in northwest PA, beautiful sunny day,
blue skies. We see this white orb, let's say, ball,
hovering just off to the side of the road above
the trees, probably a couple hundred feet tall, and it
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hovers out over the southbound lanes.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
It goes into the median and.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Then it just like dwe just takes off like hundreds
of miles an hour and it's gone. So we're like
freaked out by it. And then two days later, on
the national news feed, I'm looking on my computer these
news stories and this other guy takes a photo of
a UFO in Iowa. So I click on this story.
I take a look at it, and he videotapes. It
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was on the local news and I'm like, oh, that's
what we saw. I go down to my employee, I'm
show him the picture of this thing, the news story,
and I'm like, what's that look like. He's like, that's
what we.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Saw, dude. I'm like, wow, you know that was pretty wild.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
So you you believe you witnessed? You are you?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Did you believe in UFOs before you saw one?
Speaker 4 (34:51):
No? I mean I've never seen anything like that, so
that was that was definitely a unique occurrence. Definitely freaked
out by it. It was nothing like I've ever seen before.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Clay, where are you on Bigfoot? Just so I can
get you on the record here, I just.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Want to know, like, thank you past watch the Abominable
Snowman at the Lost City of Atlantis.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I think there are animals that we have not yet found,
but I think there are very few of a substantial size.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
So I was animals we haven't found because we're still
we in the last year, we've discovered we've probably discovered
new species, but they tend to be along the lines of,
you know, a mollusc. Yes, So I don't think there
are large mammals that exist on the planet that we
have yet to discover. So I it's going to upset
the Bigfoot people out there. And I used to watch
(35:42):
the Finding Bigfoot show back in the day because it
was pretty entertaining. I would love for Bigfoot to be real.
I don't think there's evidence to support the fact that
Bigfoot is real. I'm down here in South Florida. I
never hear about the cheopacabra anymore. Do you remember ol Cheopacabra?
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Wow, that was a thing.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I will say there are still I mean where you
are in South Florida. There are massive parts of the
Everglades that basically no humans ever traverse, right, And so
I do think there are parts of the world that
are incredibly remote. But I think large mammals. I don't
think there's any large mammals that we haven't found on Earth.
(36:21):
There might be, I don't know. Big fish but not
a mammal obviously, but big fish in the depths of
the ocean that we have yet to discover.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
But I don't think there's hidden mammals.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Oh, we'll come back here in a second. Talk to
Ryan Gardusky about politics, Virginia redistricting.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
The mid terms.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Fetterman is, you're going to switch parties, all of these
good things with our buddy Ryan Gardusky. A great way
to get you squared away on what matters in the
political realm before the weekend.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
So stick around back in the data in a second
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Friday edition. We are
updating you on everything going on right now. The US
is expecting a response from Iran on the latest peace proposal.
(00:23):
We will see how that all goes. In the meantime,
SNP five hundred to a record high, Nasdaq to a
record high, the dal Jones closer to a record high.
And let's see, we've got several different stories out there.
Obviously the biggest one the Virginia Supreme Court striking down
the new map in Virginia. It will remain the case
(00:44):
that Democrats have a six to five advantage and not
a ten to one advantage in the in Congress. They
spend around different different dollar figures floating around out there,
but around seventy million dollars to pass this referendum, only
to have it struck down now by the Virginia Supreme Court.
(01:06):
Odds of Republicans winning the House are up substantially off,
up at six month highs. We will see how exactly
that continues to play out, and we will take your
talkbacks and your reactions. But I thought we could have
some fun by the way, Ryan Gerdusky, our favorite data
nerd from the Clay and Buck podcast network, is going
(01:28):
to be with us in the third hour of this program.
We'll get the latest from him on this and by
the way, again, yesterday Tennessee passed a new map that
would take away one Democrat seat. We've got Alabama, and
we have Louisiana both and South Carolina all three and
(01:49):
different elements of trying to address their maps in the
wake of the Supreme Court striking down racial jerrymanders. Okay, Buck,
let's have some fun. Tim Burchet, congressman from Tennessee, is
going to join us at the bottom of the hour.
He responded on Twitter when I asked him how much
(02:12):
the revelations about UFOs that are going to be released,
that have started to be released today are going to
impact many of us, He said, it's going to be
a holy crap moment. That was a phrase I used
a ten on the scale of one to ten. Yesterday,
intelligence expert Buck Sexton was sitting with a table of
(02:34):
intelligence experts, and you texted last night that the conversation
came up about some of these documents being released. Tell
that story again and let's have some fun. It is
after all, Friday and these have been released. That's all
the news updates. We're monitoring everything if anything crazy happens.
But they did start to release the so called UFO
(02:55):
files this morning. What was your conversation last night, Let's
have some fun.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well, I was talking to a whole range of people,
a Secretary of War, FBI Director Patel, Deputy Director National
Intelligence at chatting with all these different folks who are there,
as well as a bunch of assorted policy experts from
the non government side.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
We're at this.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Gala and one of the things that kept coming up
I thought it would be around Iran, but no one
was talking about Iran. The chatter, if you will, was
about this UFO stuff. And a couple of the very
senior guys that were there were saying to me that
(03:40):
they were skeptics very much of all of this, like
I was, but they are less skeptical now and that
the documents will speak for themselves and the documents are
being released as per presidential order. So Clay, I mean,
that's that's pretty bold stuff to hear. I know they're
gonna be people online, by the way, who say this
(04:00):
is a distraction from Epstein or something. You know, guys,
not everything can be a distraction from the Epstein files.
I'm just going to point that out. This is it is,
in fact the case and other things happen in the
world than the Epstein files.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
But one hundred and sixty two.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Documents, so sorry, Yeah, documents, videos, images, different files here
from different agencies, FBI, DoD This has all been put
out by the government.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
To be clear, this has been released.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
So you have some of the notable highlights Clay NASA
Apollo mission stuff. We'll going back to nineteen sixty nine,
nineteen seventy two photos and astronaut transcripts from Apollo twelve
and seventeen showing unexplained bright particles, tumbling, jagged fragments, and
anomalies like three dots in a triangular formation above the
(04:53):
lunar surface. Okay, eh, socks not blown off yet. Gemini
seven mission nineteen sixty five, audio transcripts of ASTA astronauts
reporting unidentified objects. Recent military censor footage from twenty twenty four. Okay,
now we're getting a little more infrared videos, including a
(05:14):
US INDO Pacific command clip of a football shaped object
and other orbs lights showing maneuvers, hovering, glowing spheares or
translucent kite like objects, and then there's some other things here. Yeah,
I'm still not a believer. I gotta tell you, based
(05:37):
on what's come out today, we gotta when people say.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Well, what is this? There's also the I don't know,
but why should I care?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
If there's not little green men coming out of the UFO,
if there's not something behind all of this, if there's
some unexplained physical particle phenomena, like what was this thing
they called a tumbling jagged fragment? I didn't want the
hell of tumbling jagged fragment? Is why should I care? Clay,
I want little dudes that say et phone home, or
(06:08):
I want spaceships that actually land and have creatures in them.
I'm not even clear why this matters so much. That's right,
I'm going ba humbug on this so far. I want again.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
We're gonna talk with Tim Burchett about what he's seen, Congressman.
He says, it's going to be a holy crap moment.
I do think this is interesting. I had this kind
and I bet I put up a poll. By the way,
you guys can go vote we'll retweet it from the
Clay and Buck account. Thousands of you have weighed in,
(06:41):
and the question was do you think there's alien life forms?
And the secondary part of that, have they ever visited Earth?
Which is maybe for a lot of people a bridge
too far. You may believe in alien life forms and
just believe in the universe, they haven't been here. So
I told him last night, I said, hey, Buck texted
(07:03):
that they're going to start to release some of the
UFO files. I was telling him this last night. My
oldest he is super science nerdy. He is a really
smart kid. And he said, you know, Dad, my theory
on all of this, and I said, you know what,
that's kind of interesting. He said, my theory is that
these are time travelers. And he said that at some
(07:26):
point in human history we're going to figure out how
to time travel. And he said that his theory on
why UFOs are so much more likely to be spotted
in and this is true United States, China, and in England.
Those are the leading places where UFOs are cited. He said,
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if you were from the future, you would want to
go back and see civilization at a time when it
was interesting. In US, China, England. You would want to
go see the places where there is some sort of advancement.
You probably aren't going to be interested in going back.
I mean, I was kind of thinking about it. He's
probably right. You probably aren't going to be interested in
(08:10):
going to Africa and going to go look at wildebeests
on their transit across Savannah. You're gonna want to go
see America. You're gonna want to go see China. You're
gonna want to go see these areas that are the
focal point of life that you have studied. That I
actually find to be somewhat intriguing because it does make
(08:33):
sense to me that at some point in time we
may figure out a way to time travel. And this
is I understand some of you are going to think
this is crazy talk. You don't think so I do.
I think we're gonna figure out a way to time
travel at some point in time.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
You So, we just went from all the UFO stuff
is going to be so profound to hey, we're even
gonna find out about time travel.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
No, I'm kind of sure that we're gonna find out.
That's where it's coming from. But I do think that
is an interesting thesis. This is my kid.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
You could throw him under the bus if you want.
But his theory is these are not alien life forms.
This is humanity thousands of years into the future that
you would be and it makes total sense to me.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Like it's a very interesting theory.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
But I'm just so, where are you on these documents
that were released today?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Though?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Oh, I think I'm gonna I'm gonna lean. I trust
Tim Burchett, Congressman from Tennessee. He says, as these continue
and Anna Pauline a Luna who we need to get on.
They say they've seen stuff that's gonna make people say
holy crap. So I'm trusting that there's gonna be some
holy crap moments now. I will I will say this
(09:44):
phrase when you think about it. By the way, I'm
a holy moly or something, But go ahead, this is
holy holy holy Moly is really a funny phrase. I
haven't used that in a long time. You have so
far been right on Every document release is a want wamp,
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like there's every single one.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Thank you for putting that out, Clay, Oh book. The
JFK files are such big stuff from the JIFF. No,
there's not. I'm here to tell you there's not now.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I was told by people that I trust last night
that there's really interesting stuff in these UFO files, But
so far it's a wamp wamp.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
What would it take for you to come on this
show and just say, holy moly your phrase, but for
you to come on and we opened the show and
your first two words are holy moly, what.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Would you need to see?
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Well?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I love me be I will give you something on
this and we'll have Tim burchon on who could try
to convince me that there's something going on here. You
remember when Venkman in Ghostbusters. This would be the second
Ghostbusters reference on the show. It's one of the great
all time cinematic classics. Remember when when he's resting skepticism
about things and Ray Ray says, you forget I was
(11:08):
present for a vast, unexplained undersea sponge migration. And then
he got and then and then Venkman is like Ray,
this sponges migrated about a foot and a half. The
point is, even if there is some little speck on
a screen somewhere, who cares?
Speaker 5 (11:27):
I don't know?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
This is what I don't think. I understand. It means nothing.
Even if there was some thing we can't explain the outer.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Edges of the universe. Okay, we can't explain how it's possible.
We don't even know how we got here. There's so
many things that we can't explain that we know. We
can't explain that a little orb caught on some infrared camera.
I mean, if the orb starts talking to me and
says it wants to give me a back rub, then
I'll be impressed.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
What do you get? Nothing? You got nothing? No, no, no,
I'm just laughing. I think we have.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
So the alien thing is interesting to me because part
of it is the world that we live in now.
I think so much of this buck comes down to
once people make their minds up on something, how many
people are willing to be persuaded.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
That they were wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And I think about this all the time because it
really is the essence of politics in general, because we
have let's say, my guess would be there's about ten
percent of people that in any given election cycle are
willing to swing one way.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Or the other. And that might be too high.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
It would be so much better I think if people
were persuadable based on actual evidence. But I think there's
probably I think this is basically a fifty to fifty thing.
And I think there's lots of people who would not
believe that aliens were real until they just show up
knocking on their door and started doing crazy alien stuff
(13:04):
because a lot of people are in that minority.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
You made the joke, Do you think it's very funny?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
The Flat Earth guys and gals had a rough time
with the Artemis three with that trip. Flat hearts love
to argue America's you know that the flat Earth is
real when you've got all this evidence coming out from
the new trip up into space. But I do wonder
what would be required for the most there's no alien
(13:32):
life people to be willing to change their position on this,
And is there anything that could be released by our government,
Because here's the other thing that's going to happen, buck,
and this is going to happen for everything for all
time immemorial. Now, everybody's just going to say, whatever they
don't like, is AI. Prepare yourselves for this because AI
is accelerating at such a rapid rate that anything that
(13:54):
challenges your priors, whatever it might be, the number one
defense is going to be it's just AI, and it's
going to be impossible to convince people that it's not AI,
and so I do wonder how this is all going
to play out. But I'm excited to have Congressman Tim
Burchett on with us to tell us whether Buck might
actually say, holy Moly, with anything that's coming out.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
There, we go. I think it's highly unlikely. Just letting
you highly highly unlikely. Well, we did get good jobs numbers, everybody.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yay, that is very positive. All right. I want to
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Speaker 2 (16:01):
Back, Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We got an
email in from Gerald, one of our VIPs. I don't
believe in UFOs. He puts in a subject line, I'm
with Buck on this. Now, if we ever have a
close encounter moment with a little green man and it
is broadcasted, then maybe why do they always probe hillbillies
and cows. I also don't believe in Bigfoot. You would
(16:24):
think by now we would have found bones.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
This is what's kind of the Elon position on this
to Clay, which is, if this stuff was real, it
wouldn't be hard to prove it's real. So why is
it so hard to prove it's real? Little Okham's razor
action going on here.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
I again, I respect these arguments. I would just say
that if if there is alien life and it has
traveled here, it is infinitely more intelligent than us, and
so our ability to even comprehend the laws of space
and time that exist. We don't have the tools to
(16:59):
explain how someone from a different dimension could get here.
We can barely get to the moon. We can't even
get to Mars right now. So the technology of any
alien life is so far beyond what we can comprehend
that we don't have the tools to even understand it.
I would just point out I love this about science
(17:21):
and history. Every generation thinks that they understand everything.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Go back and look.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
In the fifteen hundreds they were saying we are so
brilliant now, and in the thousands they were saying we
are so brilliant. Now, there is always something that we
lack the tools to comprehend about larger humanity, life, the universe,
and so the idea that we've unlocked all the mysteries
of the world seems to me highly unlikely based on
(17:52):
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Speaker 1 (18:52):
Welcome back in Play Travis buck Sexton Show. We are
joined now by Congressman Tim Burr, Great State of Tennessee.
You have been talking about the release of the UFO files,
the unexplained aerial phenomenon, whatever people want to call it,
they have begun today. And Buck is of the opinion,
(19:15):
although he was with a bunch of the intel people
last night and they were telling him, Hey, there's gonna
be a lot in here. What should we know for
your perspective? Will there be holy moly, holy crap revelations
that eventually come out give us a sense of what
you have seen and where you think this is going.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
I think there will be. But I think the first
thing we have to be realize is that President Trump
had the guts to stand up to the deep state,
and he's They fought him every step of the way
on this thing. We were trying to do this earlier
and were blocked, and he stepped in and really manned
up on the thing. I'm not sure exactly why they
(19:56):
want to.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Hold Yeah, we hold on Congression. Why would the deep
state not want this stuff? What you know, help me
with this. I don't understand. Why do they care?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
That's a great question. That's a great question. It's power,
it's control, it's arrogance. You know, when you're sitting there
in a classified briefing with some little punk and a
man bund telling you that the president is on a
need to know basis, that that raises a very big question.
Why why is the president on a need to know basis?
(20:27):
Why isn't why is he not informed of this stuff
immediately upon taking office? It's it's just power out of control.
It's it is the classic deep state. I don't know
what else to call it. And I'm not really exactly
sure why they do it, but they do it, and
and they're continuing to do it, and they're fighting them.
(20:48):
From what I understand, this first dump of records, you know,
according to the people that are behind the scenes, they
want to make at the last but the president's pushing
and they're going to start, and he's got his top
people on it, which makes me feel a whole heck
of a lot better about it. And I think we're
(21:10):
going to get to the bottom of most of it.
I think it might just lead more questions than answers,
because people are still going to I think the main
question you need to ask is why are we spending
tens of millions of dollars on something at the federal
governments it's about nineteen forty seven has said do not exist?
And where is that money going? And what exactly have
(21:33):
they found? That's what I want to get to the
bottom of.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
So what have you seen or what do you expect
that people will be able to see? I put up
a question, do you believe? Let me maybe, let me
start with this. I put up a question, do you
believe aliens alien life forms have ever visited Earth? Fifty
seven percent of people so far have said yes. I
am of that opinion. I also understand some people think
(21:58):
I'm crazy for that opinion. Do you believe, based on
what you have seen in your general worldview, that aliens
have ever visited Earth? And do you think there is
evidence that is out there inside either our government or
other governments to support that idea?
Speaker 5 (22:19):
I have no doubt in my mind. I've seen too much.
I've talked to too many pilots, talked to too many engineers.
You watch the movie Agent Disclosure. I mean you've got
literally federal government scientists saying that these things exist. And two,
you got to ask yourself, why would a pilot who
is who's really just a trained. You know, they're a
(22:41):
trained tactician. And they're not like they show them in
the movies. They're not really like cowboys. They're more kind
of goobers that have an incredible grasp of math and
science and that fly half a billion dollar aircraft. Why
would they lie? Why would they would they have to
get a psychoval evaluation get pulled off the line. Some
(23:01):
of them had actually told me and and uh in
a meeting one time that they actually destroyed some evidence
from a from a camera because it was because they
knew what would happen. They would get pulled off the line,
they would be human, they would be humiliated by their peers,
and they might not fly again. And so there's just
(23:22):
a there's been a concerted effort for whatever reason, to
not let America see what's going on. And two, why
in the world would you you better be concerned when
something flies in our airspace without any any any any
(23:42):
control at all. I mean, these we we've scrubbed missions
because of these things. We've had helicopters that have literally
literally almost been brought down because these things were flying
so close to them in military installations. And so they say,
this is what some of the stuff is going to show,
(24:03):
and I and I look forward to it, And do
you think a lot of people go ahead?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I'm sorry, No, I'm sorry, Congressman. I just I'm very curious.
This is buck uh. Hey man, how you doing.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
I'm great. Hey, I'm a big I'm a big fan man.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I appreciate that. Thank you. It's good to have you.
Good to have you on the program.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I hope you will get my new book, by the way,
which I can't stop pitching, because when you spend so
much time writing a book, you just become a pitching machine.
But because it's about delusions and manufactured delusions, and I
worry sometimes that, for example, with the JFK file release,
there was a manufactured delusion that We're going to have
the smoking gun evidence of who I'm like. Guys, if
(24:44):
it was in the files, it wouldn't be in the
files because we would already know what was in that file,
because there's no way you'd be able to keep that
secret for this long. This stuff, the the unexplained aerial
phenomena stuff. There are certainly a lot of people that
have day to points on this, But where I always
feel like it it goes is Okay, do we think
(25:05):
this could be for an adversary activity like the Chinese
running some kind of program.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
We had the you know, the what was that crazy balloon?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
You guys remember the book the Biden era, the balloon
flying across the country, the weather balloon, satellite thing or
a surveillance thing.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Like, what's the I know it's unexplained phenomenon, but what
are the possible explanations that Congressman makes sense to you
based on what you have seen? Right, Like, take us
to the end of the story a little bit.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Okay, let's let's look at all of it. Let's look
at say it's the Russians. Somebody said, oh, I think
it's the Russians. Well, honestly, Buck, if it was the Russians,
they would not be bogged down and you know in
your Kraine right now and put in such an egomaniac
he would fly one of those things to the front
steps of the White House and get out bear tested
(25:55):
riding a unicorn and probably wrestle the president or something.
I don't know. But if it was China, they would
control us. And they're say they probably already do at
some level through our greed and the K Street lobbyists.
But uh, and then that leads as it ours, well,
why would we risk half a million dollar aircraft in
(26:17):
our in our pilots in a situation where these things
buzz cockpits and buzz there. And I had a guy
tell me this thing was fourteen feet from his cockpit
as he looked out. Why would we risk their lives
when we know we value human life more than probably
any other country in the world. Case in point is
when that pilot went down in Iran, we spent untold
(26:40):
millions of dollars to bring that guy home, and we
should have. It sends a message to our enemies, and
it sends a message to our fighting men and women,
were not going to leave you behind. So and then
the first committee meeting we had on it, when we
had we had navy people, we had scientists there and
these are sworn to testimony, and they said, does anybody
(27:02):
on planet Earth have any have this capability? And they
said absolutely not, all three of them sworn testimony.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I can't wait to see as more of these objects
are revealed. Let me ask you this, Congressman, because in
addition to the UFOs going on, we had the ruling
come out from the Virginia Supreme Court. You are a
member of the Tennessee Congressional District. Tennessee has now passed
a new map in theory that will go into effect
(27:33):
for the primary coming up in August. What do you
think of the map, what was your reaction to it?
And do you expect that Republicans will end up with
a nine to zero advantage as opposed to eight one
going forward in the wake of the anti racial gerrymandering
decision that was rendered by the Supreme Court.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
I think it's constitutionally sound and I think it's legal.
The Democrat did this back in like ninety four, I
believe in ninety six within our own state. They don't
know if y'all remember that they took fourteen district Republicans
and put them into seven seven spots, therefore keeping the majority.
(28:16):
And there was no legal challenge because it's a political
entity and that's what the courts have ruled. And so
I think and to throw the race guard to me
is ridiculous because it's a you know, it's a.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Why uish guy Steve Cohen who actually represents that district
from Memphis right now.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Right, and he's white, So and then we ran a
black Democrat, I mean, excuse me, a black Republican lady
for that seat many three times, I believe, in a row,
and she lost every time. So I just don't think
it's the race issue. I think it's just a power issue,
and that's all it is. And I think the courts
(29:01):
will hold it up. They'll they'll they'll uphold what the
legislature did.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Coninson Burchett, how do you think we're looking on the
Republican side just overall going into the House, given all
the factors as you can see them right now. I
know it's a ways out, but how are you feeling
about things right now?
Speaker 5 (29:19):
It's gonna I think it's gonna, honestly be up to
the price of gasoline. I know if I was a Democrat,
I sure would hang that on us. And you can't
get past degree of big old. And I know people
are gonna get mad when I say this, and they
always do, say, virtue, it's a commodity. You just don't
understand it. Well, it's a commodity that we we uphold
(29:39):
with with with tax credits and everything else and uh
and grants. Honestly, and if it was truly a true commodity,
then how the heck does the price of gasoline go
up that's in the tanks, that's been out of the ground,
that's been paid for immediately, it just goes up, and
(30:00):
they're allowed to stick it to us. And if it
is truly a commodity, then how the heck why doesn't
that court of oil? If it's all about the price
of oil and it's true commodity form, then why doesn't
that court of oil down at the as hardware store go
up that you use for your lawnmower, or if you
change your own oil, why doesn't it go up exponentially
(30:21):
like others do. So it's it's you got the greed
of the of the big oil, and they're just allowed
to do it. And we'll call them into DC eventually
probably and have a hearing and they'll shower us all
with plenty of cash and and then we'll never see
and nothing will ever happen.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Congress, and Burchett of tennessee, great cud, you do you
have them? Sorry, we fall here that I choose to believe.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I choose to believe on the UFOs and the release,
and I'm excited to see what else comes out. Are
you as excited about this new University of Tennessee basketball
team as I am, Congressman. I think they've got a
real chance to win the national title next year.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
I do, and I love our coach. I can't tell
you I was probably shouldn't say this, but election night
A couple of years. I don't know two or three.
I've been in Congress for eight years, so I guess
it might have been six years ago. Maybe I was
working Gibbs High School. It was the very last pole
I was working before polls close. It was about seven
(31:22):
fifty nine in my phone rang and it was the
coach and he said, Tim, you got two more in
the bank, go get them. Let in the world. But
I love that guy, really is.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Rick Bards is awesome. He really is a great dude.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
I'd love for him to get a Final four national
title on the way out before he finishes coaching.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
We appreciate the time, Congressman.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Appreciate y'all. You can always call me Tim.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Appreciate y'all, Appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
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gas Oil's commodity. Bluibull picture when you're talking about that price,
you know what else that applies to gold? And look
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especially we've had all of this tumult in the Middle East.
(32:15):
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twenty five years up something like seven hundred percent. Gold
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Speaker 1 (33:31):
Welcome back in Play Travis Buck Sexton Show. We got
a UFO witness, Bob and Eerie, Pennsylvania. What happened? Bob
tell us about it?
Speaker 4 (33:43):
So so Me and that employee of mine. We're driving
down I seventy nine southbound in northwest PA, beautiful sunny day,
blue skies. We see this white orb, let's say, ball,
hovering just off to the side of the road above
the trees, probably a couple hundred feet tall, and it
(34:04):
hovers out over the southbound lanes.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
It goes into the median and.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Then it just like dwe just takes off like hundreds
of miles an hour and it's gone. So we're like
freaked out by it. And then two days later, on
the national news feed, I'm looking on my computer these
news stories and this other guy takes a photo of
a UFO in Iowa. So I click on this story.
I take a look at it, and he videotapes. It
(34:30):
was on the local news and I'm like, oh, that's
what we saw. I go down to my employee, I'm
show him the picture of this thing, the news story,
and I'm like, what's that look like. He's like, that's
what we.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Saw, dude. I'm like, wow, you know that was pretty wild.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
So you you believe you witnessed? You are you?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Did you believe in UFOs before you saw one?
Speaker 4 (34:51):
No? I mean I've never seen anything like that, so
that was that was definitely a unique occurrence. Definitely freaked
out by it. It was nothing like I've ever seen before.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Clay, where are you on Bigfoot? Just so I can
get you on the record here, I just.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Want to know, like, thank you past watch the Abominable
Snowman at the Lost City of Atlantis.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I think there are animals that we have not yet found,
but I think there are very few of a substantial size.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
So I was animals we haven't found because we're still
we in the last year, we've discovered we've probably discovered
new species, but they tend to be along the lines of,
you know, a mollusc. Yes, So I don't think there
are large mammals that exist on the planet that we
have yet to discover. So I it's going to upset
the Bigfoot people out there. And I used to watch
(35:42):
the Finding Bigfoot show back in the day because it
was pretty entertaining. I would love for Bigfoot to be real.
I don't think there's evidence to support the fact that
Bigfoot is real. I'm down here in South Florida. I
never hear about the cheopacabra anymore. Do you remember ol Cheopacabra?
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Wow, that was a thing.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I will say there are still I mean where you
are in South Florida. There are massive parts of the
Everglades that basically no humans ever traverse, right, And so
I do think there are parts of the world that
are incredibly remote. But I think large mammals. I don't
think there's any large mammals that we haven't found on Earth.
(36:21):
There might be, I don't know. Big fish but not
a mammal obviously, but big fish in the depths of
the ocean that we have yet to discover.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
But I don't think there's hidden mammals.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Oh, we'll come back here in a second. Talk to
Ryan Gardusky about politics, Virginia redistricting.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
The mid terms.
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Fetterman is, you're going to switch parties, all of these
good things with our buddy Ryan Gardusky. A great way
to get you squared away on what matters in the
political realm before the weekend.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
So stick around back in the data in a second
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