May 9, 2026 • 36 mins
In Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts launch the program with a wide-ranging and high-energy discussion focused on state-level politics, economic policy, business climate trends, and cultural shifts shaping America, emphasizing how governance decisions in blue states like New York and California are driving migration, economic consequences, and political realignment across the country. This opening hour establishes a core theme that public policy, taxation, and political ideology are directly influencing where businesses relocate, where people choose to live, and how states compete economically.
A major focus of Hour 1 of the program is the growing economic divide between states, highlighted through the example of billionaire investor Ken Griffin and Citadel shifting investment and expansion away from New York toward Miami and Florida. The hosts frame this as a direct consequence of anti-business policies, high taxes, and hostile rhetoric toward wealth creation, arguing that cities like New York rely heavily on high‑earning individuals for tax revenue and economic activity. They discuss how business-friendly states such as Florida, Texas, and Tennessee are attracting companies and high-income earners, while traditional economic hubs like New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles risk long-term decline due to policy decisions and ideological shifts. The conversation ties into broader themes of capitalism vs. socialism, wealth redistribution, and tax policy, with the hosts arguing that targeting successful individuals ultimately harms middle-class economic opportunity.
The discussion also examines the rising political profile of Zohran Mamdani, presented as an emerging figure within Democratic Party politics, and critiques what the hosts describe as a shift toward socialist policies, class resentment, and anti-capitalist messaging. They connect this trend to earlier controversies such as the loss of an Amazon headquarters project in New York, framing it as part of a consistent pattern of rejecting business investment and economic growth in favor of ideological positioning. The hosts emphasize how these decisions can lead to lost jobs, reduced tax revenue, and declining city services, reinforcing the stakes of local political leadership.
Another major segment in Hour 1 focuses on California politics and the California governor’s race debate, where candidates like Katie Porter and Tom Steyer are discussed as representative of broader issues within the state. The hosts highlight policy positions such as government-funded healthcare for undocumented immigrants and criticism of federal immigration enforcement agencies, portraying them as examples of progressive policies they believe are out of step with economic realities. They argue that California’s challenges—high taxes, homelessness, regulatory burdens, and budget issues—demonstrate the consequences of these policies, despite the state’s natural advantages and economic potential.
The program also touches on crime, public safety, and governance, referencing incidents such as protests in New York and discussions about policing, surveillance, and law enforcement accountability. The hosts argue that public safety policies and political messaging have contributed to instability in some urban areas, and they highlight the role of video evidence and law enforcement transparency in shaping public perception of crime-related incidents.
In addition, state-level political developments and election results play a key role in Hour 1. The hosts analyze Indiana primary outcomes, where Republican voters rejected incumbents who opposed redistricting efforts, framing it as a sign of grassroots political pressure and shifting priorities within the party. They also discuss redistricting efforts in states like Tennessee and Florida, suggesting these changes could strengthen Republican political power in future elections and reflect broader demographic and political trends across the United States.
The conversation expands into broader societal trends, including migration patterns, cost of living pressures, and environmental and infrastructure concerns, highlighted by a discussion about sanitation issues impacting Southern California beaches. This anecdote is used to illustrate what the hosts describe as governance failures and declining quality of life in certain regions, further reinforcing their argument about the importance of effective leadership and policy decisions.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Saxon Show,
also known as Clay and Buck. Get started right now.
Thanks for being here. We have some really interesting stuff
to discuss, to break down, to make sense of, to
have some fun with, depending on the topic. CNN had
a California debate last night over the governor's race, and wow,
(00:26):
does California need Steve Hilton to win that Colors race?
These other people are nuts. These are a bunch of wackos.
California a perfect example of an amazing place. And I
still love California. I just the people in charge doing
everything they can to make it as unlivable as possible.
(00:49):
Marco Rubio taking on job number sixteen yesterday of being
a press briefer, and we have some very interesting updates
from him on Operation Epic Fury, all that that whole
Iran situation.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Barack Obama sat down with Stephen Colbert. Eh, but Barack
Obama praises her on Mom Donnie. So that's something that
you want to keep on your radar.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
We've got some other things. Ted Turner passed away Rest
in peace. Ted Turner. We might talk a bit about
not just that legacy, but also the future of CNN
and cable news and Clay I wrote this one really
hit home for me. Ken Griffin not not letting bygones
be bygones with the Mamdani mam Donnie, Hey, I'm going
to like just target this guy as an individual, show
(01:36):
up at his home, basically at his building, and said,
look at this rich guy who lives here.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
What a jerk.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So now Ken Griffin's like, that's cool. Doubling down on Miami.
Doubling down on Florida gonna cost New York. Oh my gosh,
over the over the full course of what Citadel would
have brought. It's billions of dollars, billions of dollars gonna
go to Florida instead of New York or Clay. So,
do you want to do California to de baby, You're
(02:03):
going to Ken Griffin first.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I'll actually throw this you picked.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
I defer to, but I think the Ken Griffin situation
is more significant.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Honestly, so I do too.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
But I want to make sure that I wasn't being
Florida man on this one, because this is another moment
just Florida man. I think it's New York City I
think this actually ties in with California. I think all
of these are connected, and I'm spending a lot of
time thinking about it because.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Of where I live in Tennessee. But this is emblematic.
I think of the ongoing COVID fallout and you're seeing
it with redistricting, and I think it's a big picture
thing that is uh impacting everything you and I talked about.
If we were giving advice to kids these days, where
would you move? Where's a good place to go start
(02:50):
a career? You'd like to be somewhere where a rising
tide can lift all boats. It's easier to be successful
in a city that is growing, in a state that
is successful, and so so I think that Democrats are
getting everything wrong and the Mamdani decision, it directly impacts
why you left New York City. New York City needs
as many of you's as they can have. They need
(03:13):
a lot of Buckshot not tried to blow you up
too much, but look you it worked for that city
to work. You need as many people with as much
money success as possible to fund all of the big
government excess. It's not coming from poor people. You need
rich people. And this is the very idea that you
(03:34):
would taunt someone who is investing the money that he
has into New York City is emblematic of a broken
understanding of basic capitalism.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So a couple of things. One I also want to
put on our radar. We will talk about what happened
in Indiana last night. Oh where a bunch of Indiana
State senators just we had a busy news day, But
don't worry, we're not going to forget about this one.
Those Indiana State senators who were like, we're not gonna.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Do districting because it's mean, not a smart career move
if you wanted to stay in the Indiana Senate. Put
it that way.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Trump and the Maga grassroots, Maga grassroots came after them,
and then look, they deserve to lose their jobs. It's
that simple. Made a really bad move, really bad move.
They got fired. I hope they enjoy, you know, selling
real estate or building lawnmowers or whatever they plan to
do going forward. But they're not going to be in
the uh, not gonna be in the state Senate anymore.
(04:28):
And now we're gonna get to that story in a
little bit. We've also, as we said, got this Mam
Donnie situation in New York and it's emblematical. Remember Mamdani
mam Donnie is being held up as someone and I
think he's increasing going to be more of a brand
within the Democrat Party. He can't run for presidents. He
wasn't born here, but Barack Obama praises him. You know,
(04:48):
he's getting a lot of attention. But now people are
starting to say, hold on a second. He's slick, he's
a smooth talker, but what is he actually doing in
New York City? How is that going for the city
of New York. Here is Ken Griffin, who is a
billionaire many times, I think tens of times over and
here he's saying at a conference, look, New York, it's
(05:11):
really straightforward. The leadership of New York City has said,
you are not really welcome here, So we're gonna make
a different choice. Play fourteen.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
When we moved from Chicago, there was a debate between
New York and Miami. It's unquestionably true that we made
the right choice. I'll leave it at that. It's unquestionably
true that we made the right choice. And now what
the Mayor of New York has made clear to my
partners and principally my.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
New York Partners.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
My New York Partners is that we need to double
down on our bet in Miami because we want to
be in a state that embraces that embraces business, that
embraces education, that embraces personal freedom and liberty, and that
embraces people having an opportunity to live the American.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Dream excellence class. That's one way to put it.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
A state that welcomes and celebrates excellence and tries to
make it more possible for everybody in their own way
to achieve excellence.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
I tweeted this, if you are a small business owner
who is hoping to build a medium sized business and
one day maybe a large business, I wouldn't want to
found one in New York California right now. I've founded businesses,
I've been involved in them.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I've said this on the show.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
But I had a conversation recently with an accountant and
he's been doing this for a long time, and he said, ope,
I presume that you will be filing your LLCs in Delaware.
And I said, you presume wrong, because I don't want
any Blue states to have access directly to my companies.
(06:47):
I want them based here in Tennessee, where I feel
like we have good leadership and I know the people
that are going to be making decisions in the generation ahead.
And you're in Florida. I feel very comfortable and I'm
going to have a decent amount of business interest in Florida.
Same thing in Texas. And look, there are other states
as well, But to me, the story of Texas, Tennessee
(07:10):
and Florida versus California, Illinois, and New York is going
to be one that plays out generationally. Used to be
New York City, Chicago, LA. People wanted to be there.
I think Miami, Nashville, multiple cities, Dallas, Houston, Austin, whichever
ones you want to point to in Texas are going
(07:31):
to surge in the next generation even more than they
already have because just what you just said, excellence is
being attacked. The meritocracy is being attacked. Most of us
are never going to become billionaires, but we should celebrate
those who do because they make all of American life
(07:51):
better than it would be without billionaires. I know it's
really popular with AOC or Bernie to run around and say.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Billionaires or bad I mean, what do they even mean?
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Think about this buck Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, those guys
have very different personalities, but what they have in common
is they built incredible American businesses that have made I
really do believe this all of our lives better than
they would have been if those businesses did not exist,
and that should be encouraged. And I just feel like
(08:26):
what the Democrat Party is becoming is a resentful, angry
party that attacks success. Now, the irony here is billionaire's
actually fun. Most of the anti billionaire propulsion from inside
of the Democrat Party, which is its own irony. But
(08:46):
this is emblematic and representative of what happened. Buck Do
you remember, I'm sure you remember it well when Amazon
wanted to put one of its headquarters in New York
City and AOC and others didn't understand the concept of
tax basically tax abatements to allow people to build and said,
we're giving them billions of dollars. And you're like, no, no, no,
(09:09):
you're giving them tax breaks because they're bringing a ton
of business. Should understand basic economics. She ran them off.
And this to me, running Ken griffinoff is connected to that,
which is just a fundamentally anti business mindset that has
taken root in New York City that I think is
going to destroy the underlying budget.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Resentment politics is very good for getting people to listen
to you and to maybe gain personal brand support, to
just play on resentment class warfare, but it always fails
as policy. So it's good as politics in the sense
that you say, like, yeah, the fat catch this. By
the way, Bernie Sanders whole career is based off this.
(09:50):
I mean, there's there's all these different politicians, Elizabeth Warren's
whole career, Elizabeth Warren, yes, took her tomahawk to Spirit
Airlines and scalped it.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
You know, this is where we are.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
These people pretend to care about people that are frustrated,
that feel like they're in a tough spot. And the
horrible irony is the very policies pushed by people like
AOC like Bernie, like Elizabeth Warren make things harder for
the people who are actually trying to earn their way,
build and get ahead, the middle class of America. And
(10:23):
so this is something Clay that it's not just for
New York. You're right, it's all across the country. We
keep seeing this play out. But Ken Griffin, I think
is really hammering this home because when you think about
what Mam Donnie did, Ken Griff is a private I
mean he's a you know, a public in this. But
he's just a guy. He's not a politician. He wasn't
picking a fight with Mam Donnie. He was getting ready
(10:43):
to build a multi billion dollar headquarters in New York,
and Mam Donnie's gonna pick a fight with him.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I mean, well, yeah, I think all that's right.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
We should also, I don't think we can overlook he
docks to where he lives, which is not very far
from where where the United Healthcare CEO was murdered in
cold blood.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
That is pointed out by Ken Griffin during his sit down.
This is a cut fifteen. Listen to what he says.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
You literally look at the first time and you're like,
you gotta be kidding me, okay, And then the second
time you're like, you know what this is? Actually this
has gone from creepy to actually not really creepy. This
has gone frightening, you know. Mindambi's making it really clear
New York doesn't welcome success. Are these states trying to
push away from their populations those who really do believe
(11:29):
in the merits of capitalism, the merits of a free society,
the importance of education.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
The answers, Yes, yeah, he's a socialist. The answers yes.
These people can call themselves democrats all day. They are socialists.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
We already have a massive welfare state in this country,
and in New York, specifically Clay They have massive tax burdens.
They have unbelievable amounts of waste, fraud and abuse, and
so many people who are getting a free ride in
a free lunch.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Off of other people. And it's not an because it's
never enough.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Let me also point out Ken Griffin donated four hundred
and fifty million dollars to a New York area hospital,
four hundred and fifty million dollar donation, so in addition
to all the taxes that he is paying. And I
don't know kN Griffin. I don't have any relationship with him,
good or ill. Right, I've never met the guy. But
(12:23):
New York should want as many Kid Griffins as possible.
New York should want as many buck Sexton's as possible.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I just it is. They are.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
They are completely destroying the fabric of what New York
was made great by which to a large extent, Buck
was Wall Street finance guys getting super rich thanks to
capitalism and then paying a ton of taxes. And we've
talked about this, and then they go out and they
pay a ton for their kids' schools and they have
(12:53):
all this different what I call the number of success,
the number of people they employ, from maids to gardners
to restaurants that they go and they spend money in.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I just it is.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Again, I think the Democrat Party has lost all ability
to understand basic business.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
And that wasn't always the case.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Who is a really pro business Democrat Now There's almost
not an existing one. They're all the Elizabeth Warrens, the
Bernie Sanders of the world. They have all of this
wealth because of capitalism, and they're angry about capitalism. I
don't know if they know better or not, but they're certainly,
(13:37):
to your point, willing to trade on it. Because class resentment,
economic warfare, identity politics, anger that you don't have what
others have is the foundation of the Democrat Party now.
And it's that it would be bad if that were
just the case. But Buck, they're also celebrating murders. Luigi
(13:58):
Mangioni is wildly popular they are going to be unfortunately
others that try to kill President Trump. They want violence
to occur for successful Republicans, and look at what happened
to Charlie Kirk. They're going to create more and more
of it. We'll take your calls on this, but I
do think this is a big story because it's where
(14:19):
we're all headed. And I think a lot of you
have to make decisions where do you want to live
over the next generation. Where should your kids and grandkids live? Increasingly,
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Thank you for hanging out with us, talking off air
as we often do. But here's a little bit of
basic math for you. And I'm curious. I'd like to
get some some feedback. But let's say you live in
New York City and you make ten million dollars a year.
There are not very many ten million dollars a year earners,
but many of them would be associated with Ken Griffin.
So let's think about that for a minute. You pay
(16:00):
New York City Buck, you well know, not because you're
making ten million, but because you've had to pay these
taxes one hundred and fourteen percent. If you make ten
million dollars, that's one point four million dollars a year
that you are paying in New York City and federal taxes.
That is one point four million a year. It doesn't
take very many guys. They're mostly men, but can be
(16:22):
some gals too, who make ten million dollars or more
deciding screw it, I'm moving to Tennessee, Texas or Florida.
You get a one point four million dollar pay raise
on a ten million dollar salary. Think about that. You
moved to Nashville, Miami, you can move to Houston.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
You're thinking about it in terms of a lot of money,
but Clay, think about it in terms of I mean,
you know, for people that's an extreme high earner, that's
a point zero one percent earner. But in New York
City people are gonna hear this, they're gonna go nuts.
But making five six, seven hundred grand, that's that's very
standard for finance for people who aren't even particularly senior.
And you that extra one hundred grand that you get
(17:01):
matters a lot to the.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Usually, but I mean, think about it, there aren't that
many of those guys. And when you leave, you take
that one point four million a year, or that one
hundred and forty thousand dollars a year, or that fifty
k a year that you otherwise were paying, it's gone
forever and you extrapolate that into the future, and I
just it is devastating for public policy. New York has
(17:26):
won a five billion shortfall now and Mom Donnie's response
to that was, I'm going to tax the people who
are successful even more such that now he has run
out of town, one of the most successful people to
have connection in New York City. It is suicide. It
is political suicide. It is suicide for those cities. And
(17:48):
I think again this New York, California, Illinois, get out
of town. You guys are in trouble. I'm telling you,
if you can Florida, Tennessee, and Texas, we are gonna
throw I even these states, the likes of which you
have never seen.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Just tell them.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Just wait for it. It's gonna be crazy to see.
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Speaker 1 (18:58):
All right, welcome back in here to and Buck. Let's
switch coasts, shall we, sorry, whole middle of the country.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
We're putting our focus from the Atlantic to the Pacific
for the moment. California and what's going on over there
in New York. You have Kami, Mom Donnie doing what
we all knew he would do.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
None of this is surprising. That's the other part of
this too.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
It's not the least bit of a shock that he's
as inept at governance as we all.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Said he was. That's why we said it would be
the case.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
But beyond that, you have in California a state that
should be the just undisputed jewel of America. And you know,
I give it credit where its due. It's still a
beautiful place that has a lot going for it, but
it is just a mess in terms of governance and
the budgets and the taxes, and the housing situation, the homelessness. Clay,
(19:53):
did we even get to yesterday. This is a little
bit of an aside. The guy who burned down the
Palisades it was arson, it was not climate change, was
a fan of Luigi the Assassin and basically a left
wing loon.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Essentially.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, I mean this is this should be a much
more prominent news story than it is, but of course
it does not serve the interests of the left of
the Democrat media doesn't want to spend any time on it.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
But we just wanted a note.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
There are people, I mean, there are major newspapers that
when that fire's happening.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Like this is because we don't take climate change seriously.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Actually, a left wing maniac who probably watches some of
these or listens to some of these, you know, insane
left wing podcasters out there started a fire and burned
down an entire part.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Of a city. A beautiful historic part of a city. Yes, Clay, No,
to your point, they also haven't gotten to rebuild.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Yeah, I mean as this is a crazy left winger
burned down to your point, it wasn't climate change. He
was inspired by Luigi Mangioni and he wanted to be
a hero, like he was broken brain. But when you
see people be praised for awful events like this, they
still are letting people rebuild. And I love La. I do,
(21:11):
and we have a big audience people listening in La.
I've spent more time in La probably than any city
other than Nashville because Fox Sports is based out there.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I traveled to La over. I was moved there ten
years ago. I was looking at homes in La a
decade ago. I really thought about it. It's a beautiful place.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
To your to bucks point, California, I think this is
the perfect analogy. California is a super attractive woman, a
super hot chick that gets away with all sorts of
awful decisions because of the natural beauty.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And she always sends up stumbling into the uber like
about the puke because she's made bad decisions, you know.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
And people make beautiful uses. People make excuses because it's
such a beautiful place to live, but my goodness, it
is incompetent. And when I see the California debate to
your point, Buck last night on CNN, the idea that
someone like Katie, remember, they were going to elect Swallwell,
(22:09):
he was the big favorite, and then they codretted him
because of all the things that he had been doing.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
And now you've got Katie Porter, Tom Steier. These are
the two leading lights of the California Democrats.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Let's start with Actually, I want to start with Katie Porter.
I was gonna go to style.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Let's start with Katie Porter here, as you know, perhaps
most famous for throwing a boiling pot of potatoes at
her now ex husband. I believe, and she is absolutely
just astonished.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Did anybody who want to talk about her temperament play too?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I can't believe that on a stage with thirty minutes
of interrupting and bickering and name calling and shouting and
disrespect for everyone up here who's stepping into public service,
one wants to talk about my temperament.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
You were actually interrupting them too.
Speaker 8 (23:04):
I don't know why you want to act like you weren't,
Oh cowboy Steve and I sat here smiling at each
other because we're just watching you all prove to everyone
why they can't vote for a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Nice work by Bianco. There, credit where it's due. Jumping
in to say, Clay Katie Porter here is indicative I
think of the state of the Democrat Party, which is
a bit of just just constant gaslighting, constant gaslighting about
what we know about these people, what they've done. I
mean Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom is really and this is
(23:38):
going to probably hit too close to home. He's the
guy who gets cheating on. He gets caught cheating on
his wife with the maid by his wife, who a
day later is like, honey, what.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Are you talking about? That was a bad dream, Like
he'll say anything, but.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Speaking of say anything was in the cut three. This
is again just how broken California politics are. Should illegal
aliens get free healthcare? Katie Porter just says, yes, that's
what Californians deserve. This is what happened last night. They
(24:12):
try to argue, oh, we don't want free health care
for illegal immigrants, except she was directly asked and she
said she does.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Cut three.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Congresswoman Porter, your thoughts on the idea of funding healthcare
for undocumented immigrants statewide.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yes, yes, and that's, by the way, what I think
Californians deserve.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Not himming and hawing.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
No like attempting to argue, oh, there's some subtlety here. No,
your tax dollars should go. By the way, if you're like, well,
that's just California, where do you think a lot of
those tax dollars come from us? Because of the way
that this is paid out. And it wasn't just Katie Porter,
who was one of the Democrat leading candidates, was also
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Tom Steyer, who is a billionaire. And here is what
he had to say. He says, ICE it's a criminal operation.
And just listen to how crazy this answer is. This
is what California Democrats believe.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
Cut one, the governor of California should hold people accountable
who break the laws of California, specifically including ICE agents
and the people who send them to racially profile which
is illegal and use violence against Californians, which is illegal.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
And it should go up the.
Speaker 9 (25:29):
Chain to the supervisors, right up to Stephen Miller. If
he's sending people to racially profile and hurt Californians or
kill Californians. He should be held liable. It is not
legal for federal agents to come to California and break
the law. It is absolutely critical that California's governor does
stand up for everyone in California that, in fact, ICE,
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to me is a criminal operation. I've said all along,
we should abolish ICE.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It's breaking the law.
Speaker 9 (25:58):
It is coming here deliberately break the law.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
All you through about Tom Steyer is that this is
a guy who is so disconnected from reality that he
thinks the climate change is the biggest threat we face.
There's very few He's now the Japanese soldier a few
years after the end of World War Two on the
island who they find him and he still thinks he's
very few people are on the climate change is an
(26:28):
existential threat train these days he's one of them. And
he says ICE is a criminal operation. Absurd, absurd. Sorry,
I got fired up. Tennessee has just buck so all
of that is I co signed with all that. I
was just trying to catch up.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Tennessee has officially released their map with nine Republican districts,
So my phone has blown up with all the map pictures.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
We need to get.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Into that that impact with Indiana and everything else. But
at the same time, I mean, I think this ties
in with the way we open the show. You have
California floundering and incompetence. You have far left wing ideas
being espoused by Tom Steyer, Katie Porter, we believe Bianco Hilton.
(27:19):
My goodness, it would be great if those were the
two finalists. Steve Hilton, We've had on this program a ton,
He's a friend. I love the guy. I think he
would be an unbelievable governor for California. If I were
in California and I were voting in three weeks, I
would personally be voting for Steve Hilton, and I would
be ecstatic if he were able to do to get
(27:40):
that job, because I think California needs a lot of fixing.
This also ties in with Spencer Pratt. Well, I don't
even know what Spencer Prass politics are, but in Los Angeles,
with Karen Bass up for reelection, there's just a genuine
distaste and anger over what blue cities have allowed to
be doing. Meanwhile, meanwhile, your state of Florida has just
(28:04):
released a map that will give theoretically Republicans a twenty
four to four advantage. My home state of Tennessee has
just released a map that will give Republicans a nine
to zero advantage. And in Indiana last night, Indiana voters
went out in their primary and said, we don't want
these soft we need leadership in Indiana that's going to say, hey,
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a state that Trump won by twenty we've got to
make sure that we protect Democrat seats. And all of
the senators by in Lars, I think six of them,
five of them for sure, it looks like a sixth
as well, all lose their seats in the Indiana State
Senate because people in Indiana are fed up. So really, Buck,
(28:51):
what you have is the story of the coasts imploding
New York LA. I think unfortunately for people in Illinois,
Chicago has to be considered a coastal community, and then
and they are on the coast of the Great Lakes.
And then on the flip side, you've got states in
the middle part of the country that are making rational,
(29:13):
reasonable decisions to make them even more rock ribbed red,
and Buck, they're going to thrive over the next twenty years.
It's really kind of a fascinating time in our American
political culture. Because you have two divergent paths being taken,
and I think Republicans are on the right side of
all this. And the question is, can someone saying like
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Steve Hilton in California get enough of a coalition? Can
Spencer Pratt? Is there any real opposition to the mom
Donnis and Hokals of the world in New York? I
think people they are in for a world to hurt.
I just really do. And it's why if I could
give advice, if you can leave, I would leave. I
(30:00):
just think a lot of what you love about the
place that you call home is vanishing in a hurry
out there. And I hope some people who are staying,
like Steve Hilton, can fight and win, But I just
think the overall trend lines are incredibly difficult for a
lot of people out there. I won't give up hope
for New York California.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
You may be on your own, just kidding, but I'm
hopeful that there's a some semblance of sanity that will
come to these places. Do you see I didn't even
get into the mayor of Seattle.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Oh, she's a wacky She's just a whack job. What
is wrong with people who live in Seattle. How do
they not? Honestly, I want some crazy libs from Seattle
to call in.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Explain to me why you think having this idiot in
charge of things that affect your day to day life,
specifically safety. She's like, we shouldn't have cameras in public
places to capture crime. That's bad. It's a public place.
Don't you want people to be safe? Don't you want
crimes to be solved by the way. The answers no,
because she's not going to like who's committing the crimes,
(31:05):
because it's not guys wearing red maga hats who are
carrying pocket constitutions. That's not who's committing the crimes, the
violent ones in Seattle. So she doesn't want there to
be cameras. These people are insane. They're insane.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Look one hundred percent, I will say this, thank the
Lord for all the cameras you. I think articularly and
succinctly pointed out that body cameras on cops basically ended
BLM because now we see every time, every time they
try to turn something into a story, it is almost
(31:41):
always that they were.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
A dangerous I would say three out of four times
now when someone tries to make an issue with stuff. Clay,
I say, oh, I would have shot that person sooner
if I were the cop. The cops are showing often
great restraint, and by the way, if they don't, everybody
sees it and they say, you know what, that cop
committed a crime. It's rare, but it's very easy.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
But I actually like the fact that we have videos
like this because that seventy seven year old guy, we
wouldn't have even they would have just said, oh, they
didn't happen. He tripped and fell, we didn't hit him right,
And then we see the video and it's awful. Same
thing happen with the Minneapolis shooting. They have video of
the crazy guy. Remember when everybody said, oh, Minneapoli is
(32:22):
going to be the issue that defines the midterms. And
then we found out that both of the people that
got shot were crazy, and one of them had been
screaming at ice agents and kicking their rear of their
car and he was carrying around a gun, and the
other one showed up and was any all of this.
The videos that come out confirmed very often what you
and I and many of our listeners out there know,
(32:45):
which is the left in this country. Has gone insane,
and the choices they're making are making their lives worse,
not better. I understand anger. Making poor choices when you're
angry often puts you in a worse position than you
would be in if you did nothing at all.
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Or wherever you get your podcast, Welcome back in.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
We're talking about East and West Coast life and the
people in the middle part of the country. I would
say Florida obviously has East Coast vibes, but people in
red states making rational decisions, people in blue states making
poor ones. I was reading about the current situation on
San Diego Beaches, which I was in disbelief over because
(34:44):
I've been talking with my wife. I don't know, twenty
years ago, we went to Condado and we couldn't afford
to stay on the I guess it's what the Hotel Coronado,
which is beautiful in San Diego, one of the nicest
hotels in the country. Couldn't afford to stay there. It
was beautiful. We went around the facilities and uh, and
we were like, man, this is incredible. Maybe one day
(35:05):
we can come back. We can stay in a hotel
this night. And we're gonna be in southern California some
this summer, and I was thinking about places to go.
Fuck many of the beaches. I didn't even realize this.
And some of you in San Diego are probably dealing
with this, and you're like, thankfully somebody's talking about this
on a national level. Mexican untreated sewage is so bad
(35:27):
in southern California now, and I'm talking about deep southern California,
the San Diego area that hundreds of days a year
the beaches are shut down because it's too toxic to
go into the water, hundreds.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Of days a year at that hotel sewage. Yes, they're
putting poop.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
In the water.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Yes, untreated raw sewage from Tijuana, from Mexico has got
San Diego beaches. You can't go in the water hundreds
of days a year. The smell is so bad now
often for people who live on the coast that they
can't open their windows.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
What are we doing?
Speaker 5 (36:07):
And I understand that's Mexico that is creating an issue
in California. You're telling me that California can't figure out
how to get poop away from its beaches so that people.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Can use it in San Diego.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
I don't even want to stay at that hotel now.
I certainly don't want to get into the water. There
has to be tons of you out there thinking what
is going on?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
This is crazy town? Yeah, why is Mexico such a mess?
That's a whole other conversation.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
We're gonna come back here in a few minutes with
some excellent stuff for all of you.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Jim Jordan, I believe, will be with us. Mister. That's right.
We have some things to talk to him about.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
We've also got play leading us on a journey, perhaps
to Indiana, perhaps to the election results from last night
where a bunch of week Republicans got their come uppis
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Saxon Show,
also known as Clay and Buck. Get started right now.
Thanks for being here. We have some really interesting stuff
to discuss, to break down, to make sense of, to
have some fun with, depending on the topic. CNN had
a California debate last night over the governor's race, and wow,
(00:26):
does California need Steve Hilton to win that Colors race?
These other people are nuts. These are a bunch of wackos.
California a perfect example of an amazing place. And I
still love California. I just the people in charge doing
everything they can to make it as unlivable as possible.
(00:49):
Marco Rubio taking on job number sixteen yesterday of being
a press briefer, and we have some very interesting updates
from him on Operation Epic Fury, all that that whole
Iran situation.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Barack Obama sat down with Stephen Colbert. Eh, but Barack
Obama praises her on Mom Donnie. So that's something that
you want to keep on your radar.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
We've got some other things. Ted Turner passed away Rest
in peace. Ted Turner. We might talk a bit about
not just that legacy, but also the future of CNN
and cable news and Clay I wrote this one really
hit home for me. Ken Griffin not not letting bygones
be bygones with the Mamdani mam Donnie, Hey, I'm going
to like just target this guy as an individual, show
(01:36):
up at his home, basically at his building, and said,
look at this rich guy who lives here.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
What a jerk.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So now Ken Griffin's like, that's cool. Doubling down on Miami.
Doubling down on Florida gonna cost New York. Oh my gosh,
over the over the full course of what Citadel would
have brought. It's billions of dollars, billions of dollars gonna
go to Florida instead of New York or Clay. So,
do you want to do California to de baby, You're
(02:03):
going to Ken Griffin first.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I'll actually throw this you picked.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
I defer to, but I think the Ken Griffin situation
is more significant.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Honestly, so I do too.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
But I want to make sure that I wasn't being
Florida man on this one, because this is another moment
just Florida man. I think it's New York City I
think this actually ties in with California. I think all
of these are connected, and I'm spending a lot of
time thinking about it because.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Of where I live in Tennessee. But this is emblematic.
I think of the ongoing COVID fallout and you're seeing
it with redistricting, and I think it's a big picture
thing that is uh impacting everything you and I talked about.
If we were giving advice to kids these days, where
would you move? Where's a good place to go start
(02:50):
a career? You'd like to be somewhere where a rising
tide can lift all boats. It's easier to be successful
in a city that is growing, in a state that
is successful, and so so I think that Democrats are
getting everything wrong and the Mamdani decision, it directly impacts
why you left New York City. New York City needs
as many of you's as they can have. They need
(03:13):
a lot of Buckshot not tried to blow you up
too much, but look you it worked for that city
to work. You need as many people with as much
money success as possible to fund all of the big
government excess. It's not coming from poor people. You need
rich people. And this is the very idea that you
(03:34):
would taunt someone who is investing the money that he
has into New York City is emblematic of a broken
understanding of basic capitalism.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So a couple of things. One I also want to
put on our radar. We will talk about what happened
in Indiana last night. Oh where a bunch of Indiana
State senators just we had a busy news day, But
don't worry, we're not going to forget about this one.
Those Indiana State senators who were like, we're not gonna.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Do districting because it's mean, not a smart career move
if you wanted to stay in the Indiana Senate. Put
it that way.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Trump and the Maga grassroots, Maga grassroots came after them,
and then look, they deserve to lose their jobs. It's
that simple. Made a really bad move, really bad move.
They got fired. I hope they enjoy, you know, selling
real estate or building lawnmowers or whatever they plan to
do going forward. But they're not going to be in
the uh, not gonna be in the state Senate anymore.
(04:28):
And now we're gonna get to that story in a
little bit. We've also, as we said, got this Mam
Donnie situation in New York and it's emblematical. Remember Mamdani
mam Donnie is being held up as someone and I
think he's increasing going to be more of a brand
within the Democrat Party. He can't run for presidents. He
wasn't born here, but Barack Obama praises him. You know,
(04:48):
he's getting a lot of attention. But now people are
starting to say, hold on a second. He's slick, he's
a smooth talker, but what is he actually doing in
New York City? How is that going for the city
of New York. Here is Ken Griffin, who is a
billionaire many times, I think tens of times over and
here he's saying at a conference, look, New York, it's
(05:11):
really straightforward. The leadership of New York City has said,
you are not really welcome here, So we're gonna make
a different choice. Play fourteen.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
When we moved from Chicago, there was a debate between
New York and Miami. It's unquestionably true that we made
the right choice. I'll leave it at that. It's unquestionably
true that we made the right choice. And now what
the Mayor of New York has made clear to my
partners and principally my.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
New York Partners.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
My New York Partners is that we need to double
down on our bet in Miami because we want to
be in a state that embraces that embraces business, that
embraces education, that embraces personal freedom and liberty, and that
embraces people having an opportunity to live the American.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Dream excellence class. That's one way to put it.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
A state that welcomes and celebrates excellence and tries to
make it more possible for everybody in their own way
to achieve excellence.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
I tweeted this, if you are a small business owner
who is hoping to build a medium sized business and
one day maybe a large business, I wouldn't want to
found one in New York California right now. I've founded businesses,
I've been involved in them.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I've said this on the show.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
But I had a conversation recently with an accountant and
he's been doing this for a long time, and he said, ope,
I presume that you will be filing your LLCs in Delaware.
And I said, you presume wrong, because I don't want
any Blue states to have access directly to my companies.
(06:47):
I want them based here in Tennessee, where I feel
like we have good leadership and I know the people
that are going to be making decisions in the generation ahead.
And you're in Florida. I feel very comfortable and I'm
going to have a decent amount of business interest in Florida.
Same thing in Texas. And look, there are other states
as well, But to me, the story of Texas, Tennessee
(07:10):
and Florida versus California, Illinois, and New York is going
to be one that plays out generationally. Used to be
New York City, Chicago, LA. People wanted to be there.
I think Miami, Nashville, multiple cities, Dallas, Houston, Austin, whichever
ones you want to point to in Texas are going
(07:31):
to surge in the next generation even more than they
already have because just what you just said, excellence is
being attacked. The meritocracy is being attacked. Most of us
are never going to become billionaires, but we should celebrate
those who do because they make all of American life
(07:51):
better than it would be without billionaires. I know it's
really popular with AOC or Bernie to run around and say.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Billionaires or bad I mean, what do they even mean?
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Think about this buck Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, those guys
have very different personalities, but what they have in common
is they built incredible American businesses that have made I
really do believe this all of our lives better than
they would have been if those businesses did not exist,
and that should be encouraged. And I just feel like
(08:26):
what the Democrat Party is becoming is a resentful, angry
party that attacks success. Now, the irony here is billionaire's
actually fun. Most of the anti billionaire propulsion from inside
of the Democrat Party, which is its own irony. But
(08:46):
this is emblematic and representative of what happened. Buck Do
you remember, I'm sure you remember it well when Amazon
wanted to put one of its headquarters in New York
City and AOC and others didn't understand the concept of
tax basically tax abatements to allow people to build and said,
we're giving them billions of dollars. And you're like, no, no, no,
(09:09):
you're giving them tax breaks because they're bringing a ton
of business. Should understand basic economics. She ran them off.
And this to me, running Ken griffinoff is connected to that,
which is just a fundamentally anti business mindset that has
taken root in New York City that I think is
going to destroy the underlying budget.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Resentment politics is very good for getting people to listen
to you and to maybe gain personal brand support, to
just play on resentment class warfare, but it always fails
as policy. So it's good as politics in the sense
that you say, like, yeah, the fat catch this. By
the way, Bernie Sanders whole career is based off this.
(09:50):
I mean, there's there's all these different politicians, Elizabeth Warren's
whole career, Elizabeth Warren, yes, took her tomahawk to Spirit
Airlines and scalped it.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
You know, this is where we are.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
These people pretend to care about people that are frustrated,
that feel like they're in a tough spot. And the
horrible irony is the very policies pushed by people like
AOC like Bernie, like Elizabeth Warren make things harder for
the people who are actually trying to earn their way,
build and get ahead, the middle class of America. And
(10:23):
so this is something Clay that it's not just for
New York. You're right, it's all across the country. We
keep seeing this play out. But Ken Griffin, I think
is really hammering this home because when you think about
what Mam Donnie did, Ken Griff is a private I
mean he's a you know, a public in this. But
he's just a guy. He's not a politician. He wasn't
picking a fight with Mam Donnie. He was getting ready
(10:43):
to build a multi billion dollar headquarters in New York,
and Mam Donnie's gonna pick a fight with him.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I mean, well, yeah, I think all that's right.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
We should also, I don't think we can overlook he
docks to where he lives, which is not very far
from where where the United Healthcare CEO was murdered in
cold blood.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
That is pointed out by Ken Griffin during his sit down.
This is a cut fifteen. Listen to what he says.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
You literally look at the first time and you're like,
you gotta be kidding me, okay, And then the second
time you're like, you know what this is? Actually this
has gone from creepy to actually not really creepy. This
has gone frightening, you know. Mindambi's making it really clear
New York doesn't welcome success. Are these states trying to
push away from their populations those who really do believe
(11:29):
in the merits of capitalism, the merits of a free society,
the importance of education.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
The answers, Yes, yeah, he's a socialist. The answers yes.
These people can call themselves democrats all day. They are socialists.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
We already have a massive welfare state in this country,
and in New York, specifically Clay They have massive tax burdens.
They have unbelievable amounts of waste, fraud and abuse, and
so many people who are getting a free ride in
a free lunch.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Off of other people. And it's not an because it's
never enough.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Let me also point out Ken Griffin donated four hundred
and fifty million dollars to a New York area hospital,
four hundred and fifty million dollar donation, so in addition
to all the taxes that he is paying. And I
don't know kN Griffin. I don't have any relationship with him,
good or ill. Right, I've never met the guy. But
(12:23):
New York should want as many Kid Griffins as possible.
New York should want as many buck Sexton's as possible.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I just it is. They are.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
They are completely destroying the fabric of what New York
was made great by which to a large extent, Buck
was Wall Street finance guys getting super rich thanks to
capitalism and then paying a ton of taxes. And we've
talked about this, and then they go out and they
pay a ton for their kids' schools and they have
(12:53):
all this different what I call the number of success,
the number of people they employ, from maids to gardners
to restaurants that they go and they spend money in.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I just it is.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Again, I think the Democrat Party has lost all ability
to understand basic business.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
And that wasn't always the case.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Who is a really pro business Democrat Now There's almost
not an existing one. They're all the Elizabeth Warrens, the
Bernie Sanders of the world. They have all of this
wealth because of capitalism, and they're angry about capitalism. I
don't know if they know better or not, but they're certainly,
(13:37):
to your point, willing to trade on it. Because class resentment,
economic warfare, identity politics, anger that you don't have what
others have is the foundation of the Democrat Party now.
And it's that it would be bad if that were
just the case. But Buck, they're also celebrating murders. Luigi
(13:58):
Mangioni is wildly popular they are going to be unfortunately
others that try to kill President Trump. They want violence
to occur for successful Republicans, and look at what happened
to Charlie Kirk. They're going to create more and more
of it. We'll take your calls on this, but I
do think this is a big story because it's where
(14:19):
we're all headed. And I think a lot of you
have to make decisions where do you want to live
over the next generation. Where should your kids and grandkids live? Increasingly,
my answer would not be New York, Chicago or LA.
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Speaker 5 (15:37):
Thank you for hanging out with us, talking off air
as we often do. But here's a little bit of
basic math for you. And I'm curious. I'd like to
get some some feedback. But let's say you live in
New York City and you make ten million dollars a year.
There are not very many ten million dollars a year earners,
but many of them would be associated with Ken Griffin.
So let's think about that for a minute. You pay
(16:00):
New York City Buck, you well know, not because you're
making ten million, but because you've had to pay these
taxes one hundred and fourteen percent. If you make ten
million dollars, that's one point four million dollars a year
that you are paying in New York City and federal taxes.
That is one point four million a year. It doesn't
take very many guys. They're mostly men, but can be
(16:22):
some gals too, who make ten million dollars or more
deciding screw it, I'm moving to Tennessee, Texas or Florida.
You get a one point four million dollar pay raise
on a ten million dollar salary. Think about that. You
moved to Nashville, Miami, you can move to Houston.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
You're thinking about it in terms of a lot of money,
but Clay, think about it in terms of I mean,
you know, for people that's an extreme high earner, that's
a point zero one percent earner. But in New York
City people are gonna hear this, they're gonna go nuts.
But making five six, seven hundred grand, that's that's very
standard for finance for people who aren't even particularly senior.
And you that extra one hundred grand that you get
(17:01):
matters a lot to the.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Usually, but I mean, think about it, there aren't that
many of those guys. And when you leave, you take
that one point four million a year, or that one
hundred and forty thousand dollars a year, or that fifty
k a year that you otherwise were paying, it's gone
forever and you extrapolate that into the future, and I
just it is devastating for public policy. New York has
(17:26):
won a five billion shortfall now and Mom Donnie's response
to that was, I'm going to tax the people who
are successful even more such that now he has run
out of town, one of the most successful people to
have connection in New York City. It is suicide. It
is political suicide. It is suicide for those cities. And
(17:48):
I think again this New York, California, Illinois, get out
of town. You guys are in trouble. I'm telling you,
if you can Florida, Tennessee, and Texas, we are gonna
throw I even these states, the likes of which you
have never seen.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Just tell them.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
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Speaker 1 (18:58):
All right, welcome back in here to and Buck. Let's
switch coasts, shall we, sorry, whole middle of the country.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
We're putting our focus from the Atlantic to the Pacific
for the moment. California and what's going on over there
in New York. You have Kami, Mom Donnie doing what
we all knew he would do.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
None of this is surprising. That's the other part of
this too.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
It's not the least bit of a shock that he's
as inept at governance as we all.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Said he was. That's why we said it would be
the case.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
But beyond that, you have in California a state that
should be the just undisputed jewel of America. And you know,
I give it credit where its due. It's still a
beautiful place that has a lot going for it, but
it is just a mess in terms of governance and
the budgets and the taxes, and the housing situation, the homelessness. Clay,
(19:53):
did we even get to yesterday. This is a little
bit of an aside. The guy who burned down the
Palisades it was arson, it was not climate change, was
a fan of Luigi the Assassin and basically a left
wing loon.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Essentially.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, I mean this is this should be a much
more prominent news story than it is, but of course
it does not serve the interests of the left of
the Democrat media doesn't want to spend any time on it.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
But we just wanted a note.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
There are people, I mean, there are major newspapers that
when that fire's happening.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Like this is because we don't take climate change seriously.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Actually, a left wing maniac who probably watches some of
these or listens to some of these, you know, insane
left wing podcasters out there started a fire and burned
down an entire part.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Of a city. A beautiful historic part of a city. Yes, Clay, No,
to your point, they also haven't gotten to rebuild.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Yeah, I mean as this is a crazy left winger
burned down to your point, it wasn't climate change. He
was inspired by Luigi Mangioni and he wanted to be
a hero, like he was broken brain. But when you
see people be praised for awful events like this, they
still are letting people rebuild. And I love La. I do,
(21:11):
and we have a big audience people listening in La.
I've spent more time in La probably than any city
other than Nashville because Fox Sports is based out there.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I traveled to La over. I was moved there ten
years ago. I was looking at homes in La a
decade ago. I really thought about it. It's a beautiful place.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
To your to bucks point, California, I think this is
the perfect analogy. California is a super attractive woman, a
super hot chick that gets away with all sorts of
awful decisions because of the natural beauty.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And she always sends up stumbling into the uber like
about the puke because she's made bad decisions, you know.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
And people make beautiful uses. People make excuses because it's
such a beautiful place to live, but my goodness, it
is incompetent. And when I see the California debate to
your point, Buck last night on CNN, the idea that
someone like Katie, remember, they were going to elect Swallwell,
(22:09):
he was the big favorite, and then they codretted him
because of all the things that he had been doing.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
And now you've got Katie Porter, Tom Steier. These are
the two leading lights of the California Democrats.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Let's start with Actually, I want to start with Katie Porter.
I was gonna go to style.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Let's start with Katie Porter here, as you know, perhaps
most famous for throwing a boiling pot of potatoes at
her now ex husband. I believe, and she is absolutely
just astonished.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Did anybody who want to talk about her temperament play too?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I can't believe that on a stage with thirty minutes
of interrupting and bickering and name calling and shouting and
disrespect for everyone up here who's stepping into public service,
one wants to talk about my temperament.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
You were actually interrupting them too.
Speaker 8 (23:04):
I don't know why you want to act like you weren't,
Oh cowboy Steve and I sat here smiling at each
other because we're just watching you all prove to everyone
why they can't vote for a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Nice work by Bianco. There, credit where it's due. Jumping
in to say, Clay Katie Porter here is indicative I
think of the state of the Democrat Party, which is
a bit of just just constant gaslighting, constant gaslighting about
what we know about these people, what they've done. I
mean Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom is really and this is
(23:38):
going to probably hit too close to home. He's the
guy who gets cheating on. He gets caught cheating on
his wife with the maid by his wife, who a
day later is like, honey, what.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Are you talking about? That was a bad dream, Like
he'll say anything, but.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Speaking of say anything was in the cut three. This
is again just how broken California politics are. Should illegal
aliens get free healthcare? Katie Porter just says, yes, that's
what Californians deserve. This is what happened last night. They
(24:12):
try to argue, oh, we don't want free health care
for illegal immigrants, except she was directly asked and she
said she does.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Cut three.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Congresswoman Porter, your thoughts on the idea of funding healthcare
for undocumented immigrants statewide.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yes, yes, and that's, by the way, what I think
Californians deserve.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Not himming and hawing.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
No like attempting to argue, oh, there's some subtlety here. No,
your tax dollars should go. By the way, if you're like, well,
that's just California, where do you think a lot of
those tax dollars come from us? Because of the way
that this is paid out. And it wasn't just Katie Porter,
who was one of the Democrat leading candidates, was also
(24:54):
Tom Steyer, who is a billionaire. And here is what
he had to say. He says, ICE it's a criminal operation.
And just listen to how crazy this answer is. This
is what California Democrats believe.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
Cut one, the governor of California should hold people accountable
who break the laws of California, specifically including ICE agents
and the people who send them to racially profile which
is illegal and use violence against Californians, which is illegal.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
And it should go up the.
Speaker 9 (25:29):
Chain to the supervisors, right up to Stephen Miller. If
he's sending people to racially profile and hurt Californians or
kill Californians. He should be held liable. It is not
legal for federal agents to come to California and break
the law. It is absolutely critical that California's governor does
stand up for everyone in California that, in fact, ICE,
(25:52):
to me is a criminal operation. I've said all along,
we should abolish ICE.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It's breaking the law.
Speaker 9 (25:58):
It is coming here deliberately break the law.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
All you through about Tom Steyer is that this is
a guy who is so disconnected from reality that he
thinks the climate change is the biggest threat we face.
There's very few He's now the Japanese soldier a few
years after the end of World War Two on the
island who they find him and he still thinks he's
very few people are on the climate change is an
(26:28):
existential threat train these days he's one of them. And
he says ICE is a criminal operation. Absurd, absurd. Sorry,
I got fired up. Tennessee has just buck so all
of that is I co signed with all that. I
was just trying to catch up.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Tennessee has officially released their map with nine Republican districts,
So my phone has blown up with all the map pictures.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
We need to get.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Into that that impact with Indiana and everything else. But
at the same time, I mean, I think this ties
in with the way we open the show. You have
California floundering and incompetence. You have far left wing ideas
being espoused by Tom Steyer, Katie Porter, we believe Bianco Hilton.
(27:19):
My goodness, it would be great if those were the
two finalists. Steve Hilton, We've had on this program a ton,
He's a friend. I love the guy. I think he
would be an unbelievable governor for California. If I were
in California and I were voting in three weeks, I
would personally be voting for Steve Hilton, and I would
be ecstatic if he were able to do to get
(27:40):
that job, because I think California needs a lot of fixing.
This also ties in with Spencer Pratt. Well, I don't
even know what Spencer Prass politics are, but in Los Angeles,
with Karen Bass up for reelection, there's just a genuine
distaste and anger over what blue cities have allowed to
be doing. Meanwhile, meanwhile, your state of Florida has just
(28:04):
released a map that will give theoretically Republicans a twenty
four to four advantage. My home state of Tennessee has
just released a map that will give Republicans a nine
to zero advantage. And in Indiana last night, Indiana voters
went out in their primary and said, we don't want
these soft we need leadership in Indiana that's going to say, hey,
(28:30):
a state that Trump won by twenty we've got to
make sure that we protect Democrat seats. And all of
the senators by in Lars, I think six of them,
five of them for sure, it looks like a sixth
as well, all lose their seats in the Indiana State
Senate because people in Indiana are fed up. So really, Buck,
(28:51):
what you have is the story of the coasts imploding
New York LA. I think unfortunately for people in Illinois,
Chicago has to be considered a coastal community, and then
and they are on the coast of the Great Lakes.
And then on the flip side, you've got states in
the middle part of the country that are making rational,
(29:13):
reasonable decisions to make them even more rock ribbed red,
and Buck, they're going to thrive over the next twenty years.
It's really kind of a fascinating time in our American
political culture. Because you have two divergent paths being taken,
and I think Republicans are on the right side of
all this. And the question is, can someone saying like
(29:37):
Steve Hilton in California get enough of a coalition? Can
Spencer Pratt? Is there any real opposition to the mom
Donnis and Hokals of the world in New York? I
think people they are in for a world to hurt.
I just really do. And it's why if I could
give advice, if you can leave, I would leave. I
(30:00):
just think a lot of what you love about the
place that you call home is vanishing in a hurry
out there. And I hope some people who are staying,
like Steve Hilton, can fight and win, But I just
think the overall trend lines are incredibly difficult for a
lot of people out there. I won't give up hope
for New York California.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
You may be on your own, just kidding, but I'm
hopeful that there's a some semblance of sanity that will
come to these places. Do you see I didn't even
get into the mayor of Seattle.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Oh, she's a wacky She's just a whack job. What
is wrong with people who live in Seattle. How do
they not? Honestly, I want some crazy libs from Seattle
to call in.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Explain to me why you think having this idiot in
charge of things that affect your day to day life,
specifically safety. She's like, we shouldn't have cameras in public
places to capture crime. That's bad. It's a public place.
Don't you want people to be safe? Don't you want
crimes to be solved by the way. The answers no,
because she's not going to like who's committing the crimes,
(31:05):
because it's not guys wearing red maga hats who are
carrying pocket constitutions. That's not who's committing the crimes, the
violent ones in Seattle. So she doesn't want there to
be cameras. These people are insane. They're insane.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Look one hundred percent, I will say this, thank the
Lord for all the cameras you. I think articularly and
succinctly pointed out that body cameras on cops basically ended
BLM because now we see every time, every time they
try to turn something into a story, it is almost
(31:41):
always that they were.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
A dangerous I would say three out of four times
now when someone tries to make an issue with stuff. Clay,
I say, oh, I would have shot that person sooner
if I were the cop. The cops are showing often
great restraint, and by the way, if they don't, everybody
sees it and they say, you know what, that cop
committed a crime. It's rare, but it's very easy.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
But I actually like the fact that we have videos
like this because that seventy seven year old guy, we
wouldn't have even they would have just said, oh, they
didn't happen. He tripped and fell, we didn't hit him right,
And then we see the video and it's awful. Same
thing happen with the Minneapolis shooting. They have video of
the crazy guy. Remember when everybody said, oh, Minneapoli is
(32:22):
going to be the issue that defines the midterms. And
then we found out that both of the people that
got shot were crazy, and one of them had been
screaming at ice agents and kicking their rear of their
car and he was carrying around a gun, and the
other one showed up and was any all of this.
The videos that come out confirmed very often what you
and I and many of our listeners out there know,
(32:45):
which is the left in this country. Has gone insane,
and the choices they're making are making their lives worse,
not better. I understand anger. Making poor choices when you're
angry often puts you in a worse position than you
would be in if you did nothing at all.
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Speaker 5 (34:23):
We're talking about East and West Coast life and the
people in the middle part of the country. I would
say Florida obviously has East Coast vibes, but people in
red states making rational decisions, people in blue states making
poor ones. I was reading about the current situation on
San Diego Beaches, which I was in disbelief over because
(34:44):
I've been talking with my wife. I don't know, twenty
years ago, we went to Condado and we couldn't afford
to stay on the I guess it's what the Hotel Coronado,
which is beautiful in San Diego, one of the nicest
hotels in the country. Couldn't afford to stay there. It
was beautiful. We went around the facilities and uh, and
we were like, man, this is incredible. Maybe one day
(35:05):
we can come back. We can stay in a hotel
this night. And we're gonna be in southern California some
this summer, and I was thinking about places to go.
Fuck many of the beaches. I didn't even realize this.
And some of you in San Diego are probably dealing
with this, and you're like, thankfully somebody's talking about this
on a national level. Mexican untreated sewage is so bad
(35:27):
in southern California now, and I'm talking about deep southern California,
the San Diego area that hundreds of days a year
the beaches are shut down because it's too toxic to
go into the water, hundreds.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Of days a year at that hotel sewage. Yes, they're
putting poop.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
In the water.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Yes, untreated raw sewage from Tijuana, from Mexico has got
San Diego beaches. You can't go in the water hundreds
of days a year. The smell is so bad now
often for people who live on the coast that they
can't open their windows.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
What are we doing?
Speaker 5 (36:07):
And I understand that's Mexico that is creating an issue
in California. You're telling me that California can't figure out
how to get poop away from its beaches so that people.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Can use it in San Diego.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
I don't even want to stay at that hotel now.
I certainly don't want to get into the water. There
has to be tons of you out there thinking what
is going on?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
This is crazy town? Yeah, why is Mexico such a mess?
That's a whole other conversation.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
We're gonna come back here in a few minutes with
some excellent stuff for all of you.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Jim Jordan, I believe, will be with us. Mister. That's right.
We have some things to talk to him about.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
We've also got play leading us on a journey, perhaps
to Indiana, perhaps to the election results from last night
where a bunch of week Republicans got their come uppis
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