On this episode of Normally, Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz break down a surprising election night that could signal major political shifts in California and beyond. From Steve Hilton's strong performance in California's gubernatorial primary to Spencer Pratt's unexpected surge in the Los Angeles mayoral race, they discuss why outsider candidates are gaining traction and what it says about voter frustration with the status quo.
MK & Karol also examine a controversial congressional primary in New Jersey, discuss an Iowa gubernatorial upset that defied expectations, and explore what these races reveal about the future of both political parties.
Plus, they dive into the fallout from the firing of longtime 60 Minutes figure Scott Pelley, the battle over the future of legacy media, and a shocking update on a widely reported Canadian mass-grave story that generated years of headlines despite a lack of supporting evidence.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hey guys, I'm back on Normally, the show with normalist
takes for when the news gets weird.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I am Mary Cassen.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yeah, I'm Carol Markowitz. How are you, Mary Catherine. We
hosted a party together last night.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We did, and it was fun.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yes, it was a good crowd, fun times.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah. I thought it was really some of my favorite
people in the conservative world. You can look on our
socials for more information on who was there, but it
was really just like the exact crowd that I hope
to see when I'm in DC for like eighteen hours.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, it was awesome.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Congrats to Buck Sexton on his book yep, New York
Times bestselling writer.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Right, and you know the half of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton podcast network on which you are listening
to this fabulous show.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yes, very cool to see him.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, all right, let's get into it. While we were
there last night, a bunch of elections happened around the country.
Of course, California election really didn't come in until today,
so we didn't miss that much. But California held its
jungle primaries and for governor, and right now, Steve Hilton
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and Xavier Bussera look like they are going to be
the two the get out of the primary. Tom Steyer
is a distant third. Of course, final results could take
days or weeks because California counts mail ballots after election day.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, it's certainly a good sign that Hilton is leading.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It's first in the.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
That's right right now.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
And you and I have said from the beginning, we
noted that we loved the positive branding of this campaign,
that I thought there were a significant number of people
in California who have had it with the one party rule,
with the failures all over the state. He is well spoken,
he is photogenic, intelligenic, and he was very calm in
(02:06):
the debate where they were all going at each other,
and he's just hanging out there with his lovely accent
given you know, a little sly daggers to everyone. And
I very much enjoyed seeing him succeed. And I am
very hopeful that those late ballots don't do anything to
mess with the standing so that we can have at
(02:27):
least a choice Californias out there, sanity out there.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, I'm with you. He and his victory speech last night,
or in his you know, moving on to the next
round speech I don't know what they call it, this
kind of thing. He gave a little credit to another
former Republican governor with an accent, Arnold Schwarzenegger. I thought
that was pretty cool. And then he showed the inside
of his jacket which had the American flag because Steve
(02:55):
Hilton is British or was British. I guess he's American. Now, yeah,
the American and he had the California flag on the
other side of his jacket, and it was it was
just very cool to watch. Our friend Charles Cook points
out that Tom Styer, who again came in third. He's
a billionaire, spent a ton of money on this race.
Cook says, tom Steyer keeps running around saying that it's
(03:17):
unfair that billionaires like him can buy our democracy, then
spending hundreds of million dollars to do just that, then
failing to get elected, and then repeating all the same
lines the next time around. It's extremely funny. It is
exactly what he does. He's like, rich guys like me
shouldn't be able to buy our way into this, and
then he's incapable of.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Buying his You can't.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
It turns out you cannot actually.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Also good news from that jungle primary that Eric Swalwell
is off in the wilderness somewhere and Katie Porter I
was the vicious representative in California who abuses her staff
and her former husband.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I believe four percent of the vote.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Then in LA we've been following that election obviously very closely.
Spencer Pratt has been a phenomenon. He came in second
to Karen Bass, who is in first right now, again
this is all right now, but he seems to be
in solid second and also moving on and Karen Bess,
(04:25):
who is the current mayor, is in first, and then
Nythia Rahman is in third. She had been in pole
position to win this thing, and then she had a
disastrous debate where Spencer Pratt ran away with that debate
and it really shook up the race. Debates often make
no difference, but this is a case of it made
a lot of difference in this one.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Well, I think because the proposition of Spencer Pratt is
I'm an outsider. I could do something different, but people
were like, yeah, but you are a reality star, and
we're kind of doing that over here, and we're not
really sure about it. Yeah, and then he went on
the stage and he sounded like a person who could
do things.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Nythia Rahman, for what it's.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Worth, gave what sounded like a concession speech last night
because she was crying throughout her little I'm not moving
on to the next round. So it seems to me
that maybe she knows that the votes aren't there to
overcome the lead that he had, which is about eight
or nine points at that point. It'll change because California
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does things in a has horrible.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Way, terrible elections and doesn't know what they're doing. Let's
hear a very short clip from Spencer Pratt last night
where he's like, I've already won. Obviously y'all wanted five
more months of me exposing all the failures of our mayor.
So it's gonna be a fun ride. I hope she's ready.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Are you ready?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
I was born?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
But it's clearly I love it. That clip is actually
a little too short, because he does go on to say,
now he has five more months of putting together a
team taking this seriously. In that clip, it sounds like
he's saying, I've got five more months to get on
her nerves, and then she wins and hopefully makes changes.
Look is he going to win. He's been a long
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shot this whole time. The fact that he came in
second to move on is kind of a miracle in LA.
That's how bad things have gotten that they're considering a
reality star that they want to hate so badly but
can't because they know that he's right, and that drug
addicts are hanging out in front of their schools, and
they know that he's right. The crime has gotten out
of control, and they know that he's right that all
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the other politicians have done absolutely nothing about it. So
this is where LA finds itself. I think that in
any other election he wouldn't have had a chance, but
things have gotten bad enough that he's able to present
the everyman case. And of course his house famously burnt down,
Karen Best didn't do anything about that. There are others
like him in the same situation, feeling that, and he's
(06:49):
really tapped into something well.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I analogize him a little bit to open schools moms
who were radicalized and maybe weren't super political, but we're
willing to upon being betrayed by their public face officials,
and this public good destroyed in front of their faces
and being lied.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
To about it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, we're like, maybe I would consider some other options,
and they did all sorts of things like get into
politics and vote the other way. And he's a wildfire
dad house burned down and he was like, now I'm
mad about this. And as you remember from the open
schools moms, he knows stuff because he knows he's going
to get hard questions about the fire, and he knows
(07:24):
backwards and forwards every report and every accounting on this
so that he can rehearse it, so he can repeat
it chapter and verse to everybody.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And that has been a strength for him.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And I do think the question always with Trump voters
in twenty sixteen was are there quiet Trump voters?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
There are certainly quiet Spencer Prap voters.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, in that place of ideological conformity, there are quiet preps.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Right where you dare not step out of line. And
a lot of his ads focus on that, like it's like,
you know, Pilate's moms being like, I'm not a MAGA supporter,
but I am voting for Spencer Pratt or the dads
standing around they're all AI, it's amazing. But he talks
about that he says, you can do it, and there
are others like you, and maybe you guys will all
(08:14):
do it together. CNN interviewed this voter yesterday. This is
such a great clip where they are just shocked to
find out that Democrats might vote for Spencer Pratt. They
Democrat are voting for Spencer Pratt. Yes, why is that?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I do like his approach for the homelessness. As a
person who's to be homeless myself, I was rendered the
services that he's talking about. I was able to change
my life ten years sober with no alcohol and stuff
like that, So his approach is really good. I do
think it's fair for him to go off with the
runoff with Karen Bass. This way, both of them can
(08:49):
go ahead and prove to me why they deserve my vote.
So as of today, I'm doing it, yes, because I
do like his approach and I do think he deserves
a fair chance. But come November it could be different.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Really interesting how many people are animated one way or
not really interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
It is very interesting how animated people are one way
or another. Find me an animated Karen Bass photer.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Please.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
One ms NOW correspondent did a little bit and I'm
not going to exactly quote it, but I'll paraphrase.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It was something along the lines.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Of, you know, this is sort of nefarious. He's alleging
that it's an nefarious sort of populism, wherein Spencer Pratt
talks about obvious problems and how to solve them, and
I'm like, I got news for you that nefarious populism
could really work. I'm not sure if people are convinced
that that is a problem to talk about the problems
(09:41):
elsewhere in California. I just wanted to note a little
dummy mandering the new California sixth, yeah, which Kevin Kylie
was supposed to be drawn out of in a Democrat
into In that primary, Kevin Kylie became an independent and
he finished first, the Republican finished second, and the Democrat
finished third last night, So it maybe that you have
(10:02):
a Republican and a right leaning independent fighting each other
for California sixth, which was not what Newsom.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Envisioned, right right, Well, that's the thing when you over Jerrymander,
You're going to leave some districts like that and you
risk it. So what else happened last night? New Jersey elected,
well didn't elect, but the Democrats chose him as their
standard bearer, and it's a very left leaning district, so
he's probably going to win. A super far left Democrat
(10:32):
who is connected to Al Qaeda. And here is our
friend Guy Benson to tell us about him.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
He had Annie McCarthy on my radio show just recently.
Andy was one of the prosecutors who put away the
blind Shake, this arch terrorist, mastermind of the first World
Trade Center bombing with the goal of murdering thousands of
New Yorkers. And the man you just mentioned running for
Congress in New Jersey was his interpreter, traveled around with him.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Was a confidant, and was a defense witness at that trial.
Beyond that, Brian Jewish Insider has reported that same man
subsequently went to Bosnia to volunteer for an organization that
was later exposed as an al Qaeda front and shut down.
This man is a leading candidate for Congress in New Jersey,
(11:21):
a state that lost more than seven hundred people on
nine to eleven. Are Democrats really going to make someone
like this their nominee for the United States Congress?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Well?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
No, soon, yeah they did. They made him the nominee
for Congress in that district and it's really quite pathetic.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, and really to put just the worst bow on
this story, Guy Benson also found out and put it
together that the hometown or the place where he raised
his family and the final resting place of Todd Let's
roll beamer of flight ninety three is in Cranberry, New Jersey,
which is in New Jersey twelve, which may very well
(12:02):
be and end up being represented in Congress by Adam Hamali,
who has all of those al Qaeda connections that we
just mentioned.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Bananas, It's really really something.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
You gotta wonder even in a very blue district in
Jersey where there were.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
So many lost.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I think there's thirty forty ish from this district alone
on nine to eleven.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Is there a normy revolt to this.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
To say you got the D behind your name? But like,
I don't think we can do this.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, I'm not that optimistic on it, but maybe I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, it's it's quite quite a look in the old
primaries of the Democrats in a lot of places.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
The other big story from last night is zach Lane.
I believe that's how you pronounce it, even though it's
spelled la h and I'm not one hundred percent sure
one the Republican nomination for Iowa governor. And this is
a big story because Trump endorsed his opponent and the
fact that some members of the conservative movement, I know
(13:10):
Turning Point Action is taking some credit here. I know
Steve Dice, who's a big Iowa radio show guy who
has a lot of influence in Iowa elections, also supported Zach.
They are all aligned with him. And it's sort of
interesting because we've talked about on here. Trump is the
ultimate king maker right now, there's absolutely no doubt about that.
But sometimes even Donald Trump doesn't get the candidate that
(13:33):
he wants.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, that's a break of a streak for him and
a lot of these primaries. Iowa went pretty well for
Normis in general last night because the Democratic primary for
the Senate seat against GOP Representative Ashley Henson, who is
very skilled and will do well in this red state.
(13:55):
He's a Normy as well, or at least more Normy
than many of the people coming out of these primaries.
And I believe a paralympic, former wheelchair basketball paralympian with
several medals, so those tool face off. So she she
she pulled a tough competitor. But this is still quite
a red state, even though it has been negatively affected
(14:15):
by tariffs on and the Iran war because of fertilizer
prices for crops. So that is something that is part
of the conversation there.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, but I'm.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Honestly, I'm glad to see like some fairly normally people facing.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Off right right, Well, we'll see, if you know, I've
heard kind of mixed things about this guy, so I
will absolutely stay a little bit more on top of it.
I have to admit I was not following this race
super closely and just assumed that whoever Trump was picking
was going to win. So when I had sort of
a lot of mail today about this guy winning, it
(14:51):
was surprising. And look, I'm not the only one. Apparently
Fox News didn't have a picture ready for him, because
it was like who is he and how did the happened?
So listen, that happens obviously long shots sometimes when I
don't know that he necessarily was a long shot, because
it looks like, again, he did have some I don't
(15:11):
want to say institutional support, he did have some ruit support. Yeah,
and he ended up Zach Lane ends up being the
Republican candidate for Iowa governor. Okay, we're going to take
a short break and be right back with more on Normally.
(15:31):
We are back on Normally, where Scott Pelly was the
host of sixty minutes and he was largely insufferable. He
had so many moments where I think that he could
have been fired, and this most recent one, Barry Weise,
who now runs CBS, she named Nick Bilton, the executive
(15:57):
producer of sixty minutes, and Scott Pelly got into an
explosive argument with him in front of everyone, where Bilden
tried to kind of talk it down a little bit,
get him to calm down. Pelly is used to getting
what he wants and he had this huge confrontation with
his new boss. People who heard about it on X
(16:20):
were all pretty shocked at that Pelly could behave this way,
and then a day later he was let go. So
I don't think there's anything crazy here other than the
left and Democrats. The left, howe everyone to freeze it,
are taking it very very poorly that this allegedly non
partisan talking head is no longer there, which is kind
(16:42):
of a tell.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
He made it absolutely impossible for them not to fire him. Yeah,
it's active in subordination in front of everyone. And as
Bilton's letter to Pelly makes clear, you made very clear
that you're not interested in a future of this news
program while working with the bosses. And I am amazed
(17:07):
at the extent to it, Like, could anyone make this
kind of a stink about losing a job under new management,
like a reporter or a journalist, because they this is
a normal thing. So many people have experienced getting a
new boss, Hiring practices change, a couple, people shift around,
a couple, people lose their jobs. The philosophy and the
(17:28):
management style are different. And you either leave, quit with
your dignity and move along with your life, or you
stay and do the job right. This isn't a giant trauma.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
It isn't.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
He's not the only person on Ears who can do
this job. I just find it so bizarre. And the
quotes on background, because of course you know they can't
come forward. The quotes on background are like, what's it
like among the staff? And it was like, uh, like
being awake during surgery.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Have you ever experienced anything? Have you ever experienced anything?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Because I worry for you when something real happens to
you other than a management dispute at your very white
collar job, because this is crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah. Apparently, Pelly had also said about Weiss, she has
no qualifications for her job. The changes that she's made
of the Evening News have been catastrophic, so why should
we expect that any of this is going to be
any better? He said that she was murdering sixty minutes.
She was brought in to kill it and is doing
exactly that. I mean, these are bananas things to say
about your boss's boss, and to say she's got no qualification.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
True.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah, she started the Free Press after very famously quitting
The New York Times, and by the time that they
sold it to Paramount, she had over one and a
half million paid subscribers. That is an insane number for
something that started as her own personal newsletter. Meanwhile, The
New York Times is like holding itself together with like
(19:06):
wordal subscriptions. I mean, it is a different universe. And
so CBS brought her on because she has proven that
she can take an old model and make it fresh
and new for our current time, and just people hate
her for it and the joke that she's some sort
of maga you know, Republican or whatever. It's absurd. Anybody
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who has read her for a long time knows that
she's not at all that, and that they're trying to
make her into that because they don't want to make
any changes to their little fiefdom. Is really what's going
on right here?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
And kind of tell on themselves, yeah, when they're like, okay,
so there's an outlet that's trying something different. And the
person who you are trying to convince everyone is the
person crossing all these rubicons is a center left Jewish
lesbian from New York City. Like that's that's your maga caricature.
I also, this is a this is a tactic of
(20:04):
the left and turns out over and over again of
journalists which I hate, which is to assert that their
inability to control their emotions in public validates that something
truly extraordinarily.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Happen has happened to them.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Because I'm having this tantrum, whether I'm on the street
corner or in CBS's newsroom, it means someone has violated
me in a horrific manner. It's like, actually, no, you
could just respond more maturely, right, and that, like you're
not validating it.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
This is like a self angry because.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You're super angry.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
That's not how that works.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
We like to we can evaluate this situation outside of
your emotions, but apparently journalists can't do that, which.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
By the way, is part of the problem with journalism.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
And one last thing the quote that he gave the
New York Times where he says, I have been in combat.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Oh my god, And I mean, like, you know, you haven't.
You have covered combat? You have not been in combat.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
This bothers me because obviously it's incorrect, but it's like
it's it's such a picture of the whole problem. It's
self aggrandizing. Yeah, it's not true. It's misleading to readers.
It makes it seem like he's the hero of the
story when in fact, it is dangerous.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
To go be embedded with sure with soldiers.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
But the people doing the combat are risking their lives
to protect you, so you can tell the story of
what they do. And by the way, they sometimes put
themselves at more risk because they have a dumb, dumb
civilian with them.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Okay, like you're not in combat. Oh that got me.
I did not like that drama. H I did not
like it.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
And that he didn't have to walk it back at all.
Though where is the liberal media to be like, you
weren't actually in combat, Like again, it's just unfair that
we would have teeth gnashing on the right if somebody
said stuff like this, and we do and we have
it all the time, and we call out our side
and there's nobody to do it over there.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
By the way, I didn't have a particular issue with
Scott Pelly beyond like you know, of course I'm going
to disagree with him in general as a member of
the mainstream media until his behavior here, which I found
so lame, right, and I was like, maybe I should
look back upon my cursory understanding of Scott Pelly because
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I'm unimpressed.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Right, people keep mentioning this. I think Emily's a naughty
said it, but like sixty Minutes is best known as
the show that you accidentally watch because it comes on
right after football. Like let's be real here, you know,
so trying to save it, God bless him. It needs
some changes.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Well, and Sharon Alfonsi I'll note, who was one of
the other reporters who was like, oh she did that
awful pro German speech.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Police peace your favorite. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
It was thirteen minutes long and included no rebuttal from
anybody who thought free speech was a good idea.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
It was amazing.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Right, and now if we don't let Scott Pelly back
into the anchor chair on sixty minutes, free speech is dead. Basically.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
That's obviously.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
We're going to take a short break and be right
back with one more segment of Normally.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
All right, guys, we are back on Normally with an
in case you missed it, an update from way.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Back in twenty twenty one. I don't know if you
remember this, Carol, but.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
There was this story and I remember it the summer
of twenty twenty one, when people were still kind of
losing their minds in the post George Floyd era in Canada,
in British Columbia place called Kamloops, where there was an
allegation by a First Nations tribe which is, you know,
indigenous or what we call Native American tribe in Canada
(23:44):
that said they had found evidence of two hundred and
fifteen some children, yeah, from formerly Catholic schools where Indigenous
children were taken in schooled and converted and sometimes abused
in mass graves, and this barked obviously, you know, chamationwide
reckoning and actually some not a small amount of vandalism
(24:07):
and attacks on churches, Catholic churches in response to this,
and huge amounts of media coverage. It turns out zero
evidence has ever been found ye that there were mass
graves there. And that's that is a fact that we
have known, like people who watched that story that caught
wind of that. But the Globe and Mail in Canada
(24:28):
finally wrote an editorial with a lot of throat clearing
for the libs. Yeah, yeah, that said, hey, we don't
actually have any evidence of this, and we should have
and in the future, we should probably check these.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Things, probably probably check these things. So that they claimed
at the time that they had identified they did use
this like special radar to identify the bodies underground, and
this special radar, I mean they had numbers. They were like, okay,
we found to fifteen potential burial sites near the Kamloops
(25:03):
Indian Residential School and the headlines would be like two
hundred and fifteen children's remains found. And then it turned
out that that didn't happen at all. It's wild how
unchecked this kind of thing went on. I'm glad they're
finally admitting to it, but so much damage has happened
because of it. Churches were vandalized, they were burned. I
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mean they even just like they had vigils for these
people that they allegedly found that and they didn't find anybody.
They didn't find a single body.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
It's it's wild and just the newspaper having to say, well, yeah,
we didn't have anything zero, right. Yeah, perhaps looking for
evidence of an extraordinary claim should be our first step
instead of these six years later sort of maya culpa.
By the way, it's not a very good maya culpa,
because it's like, to be sure, many children were hurt
(25:56):
and some killed and perhaps there will be proof one day.
It's like, are you hoping that there were mass graves,
because that's what its like.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
We're happy there are no mass graves, Like I just.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
When you're taken for a ride this many times by
the media on the predictable identity based troops they want
to take like eventually you just this is the problem
with the public trust. By the way, this is also
the six year anniversary of the famous public health figure.
Yeah press release that gathering to solve racism is good
(26:32):
and fine and doesn't spread the virus.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Right, it's fine, it's just so important that they don't.
You no longer have to stay in. Everybody else who
doesn't want to protest against racism, you still have to
stay in. However, that's just science.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Anniversary of the day my brain broke.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
So yeah, so it's really a case in case you
missed it, and of we're still madro combined in one.
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
I am Mary Cassen.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yeah, I'm Carol Markowitz. How are you, Mary Catherine. We
hosted a party together last night.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We did, and it was fun.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yes, it was a good crowd, fun times.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah. I thought it was really some of my favorite
people in the conservative world. You can look on our
socials for more information on who was there, but it
was really just like the exact crowd that I hope
to see when I'm in DC for like eighteen hours.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, it was awesome.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Congrats to Buck Sexton on his book yep, New York
Times bestselling writer.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Right, and you know the half of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton podcast network on which you are listening
to this fabulous show.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yes, very cool to see him.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, all right, let's get into it. While we were
there last night, a bunch of elections happened around the country.
Of course, California election really didn't come in until today,
so we didn't miss that much. But California held its
jungle primaries and for governor, and right now, Steve Hilton
(01:20):
and Xavier Bussera look like they are going to be
the two the get out of the primary. Tom Steyer
is a distant third. Of course, final results could take
days or weeks because California counts mail ballots after election day.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, it's certainly a good sign that Hilton is leading.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It's first in the.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
That's right right now.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
And you and I have said from the beginning, we
noted that we loved the positive branding of this campaign,
that I thought there were a significant number of people
in California who have had it with the one party rule,
with the failures all over the state. He is well spoken,
he is photogenic, intelligenic, and he was very calm in
(02:06):
the debate where they were all going at each other,
and he's just hanging out there with his lovely accent
given you know, a little sly daggers to everyone. And
I very much enjoyed seeing him succeed. And I am
very hopeful that those late ballots don't do anything to
mess with the standing so that we can have at
(02:27):
least a choice Californias out there, sanity out there.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, I'm with you. He and his victory speech last night,
or in his you know, moving on to the next
round speech I don't know what they call it, this
kind of thing. He gave a little credit to another
former Republican governor with an accent, Arnold Schwarzenegger. I thought
that was pretty cool. And then he showed the inside
of his jacket which had the American flag because Steve
(02:55):
Hilton is British or was British. I guess he's American. Now, yeah,
the American and he had the California flag on the
other side of his jacket, and it was it was
just very cool to watch. Our friend Charles Cook points
out that Tom Styer, who again came in third. He's
a billionaire, spent a ton of money on this race.
Cook says, tom Steyer keeps running around saying that it's
(03:17):
unfair that billionaires like him can buy our democracy, then
spending hundreds of million dollars to do just that, then
failing to get elected, and then repeating all the same
lines the next time around. It's extremely funny. It is
exactly what he does. He's like, rich guys like me
shouldn't be able to buy our way into this, and
then he's incapable of.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Buying his You can't.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
It turns out you cannot actually.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Also good news from that jungle primary that Eric Swalwell
is off in the wilderness somewhere and Katie Porter I
was the vicious representative in California who abuses her staff
and her former husband.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I believe four percent of the vote.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Then in LA we've been following that election obviously very closely.
Spencer Pratt has been a phenomenon. He came in second
to Karen Bass, who is in first right now, again
this is all right now, but he seems to be
in solid second and also moving on and Karen Bess,
(04:25):
who is the current mayor, is in first, and then
Nythia Rahman is in third. She had been in pole
position to win this thing, and then she had a
disastrous debate where Spencer Pratt ran away with that debate
and it really shook up the race. Debates often make
no difference, but this is a case of it made
a lot of difference in this one.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Well, I think because the proposition of Spencer Pratt is
I'm an outsider. I could do something different, but people
were like, yeah, but you are a reality star, and
we're kind of doing that over here, and we're not
really sure about it. Yeah, and then he went on
the stage and he sounded like a person who could
do things.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Nythia Rahman, for what it's.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Worth, gave what sounded like a concession speech last night
because she was crying throughout her little I'm not moving
on to the next round. So it seems to me
that maybe she knows that the votes aren't there to
overcome the lead that he had, which is about eight
or nine points at that point. It'll change because California
(05:22):
does things in a has horrible.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Way, terrible elections and doesn't know what they're doing. Let's
hear a very short clip from Spencer Pratt last night
where he's like, I've already won. Obviously y'all wanted five
more months of me exposing all the failures of our mayor.
So it's gonna be a fun ride. I hope she's ready.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Are you ready?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
I was born?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
But it's clearly I love it. That clip is actually
a little too short, because he does go on to say,
now he has five more months of putting together a
team taking this seriously. In that clip, it sounds like
he's saying, I've got five more months to get on
her nerves, and then she wins and hopefully makes changes.
Look is he going to win. He's been a long
(06:06):
shot this whole time. The fact that he came in
second to move on is kind of a miracle in LA.
That's how bad things have gotten that they're considering a
reality star that they want to hate so badly but
can't because they know that he's right, and that drug
addicts are hanging out in front of their schools, and
they know that he's right. The crime has gotten out
of control, and they know that he's right that all
(06:28):
the other politicians have done absolutely nothing about it. So
this is where LA finds itself. I think that in
any other election he wouldn't have had a chance, but
things have gotten bad enough that he's able to present
the everyman case. And of course his house famously burnt down,
Karen Best didn't do anything about that. There are others
like him in the same situation, feeling that, and he's
(06:49):
really tapped into something well.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I analogize him a little bit to open schools moms
who were radicalized and maybe weren't super political, but we're
willing to upon being betrayed by their public face officials,
and this public good destroyed in front of their faces
and being lied.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
To about it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, we're like, maybe I would consider some other options,
and they did all sorts of things like get into
politics and vote the other way. And he's a wildfire
dad house burned down and he was like, now I'm
mad about this. And as you remember from the open
schools moms, he knows stuff because he knows he's going
to get hard questions about the fire, and he knows
(07:24):
backwards and forwards every report and every accounting on this
so that he can rehearse it, so he can repeat
it chapter and verse to everybody.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And that has been a strength for him.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And I do think the question always with Trump voters
in twenty sixteen was are there quiet Trump voters?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
There are certainly quiet Spencer Prap voters.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, in that place of ideological conformity, there are quiet preps.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Right where you dare not step out of line. And
a lot of his ads focus on that, like it's like,
you know, Pilate's moms being like, I'm not a MAGA supporter,
but I am voting for Spencer Pratt or the dads
standing around they're all AI, it's amazing. But he talks
about that he says, you can do it, and there
are others like you, and maybe you guys will all
(08:14):
do it together. CNN interviewed this voter yesterday. This is
such a great clip where they are just shocked to
find out that Democrats might vote for Spencer Pratt. They
Democrat are voting for Spencer Pratt. Yes, why is that?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I do like his approach for the homelessness. As a
person who's to be homeless myself, I was rendered the
services that he's talking about. I was able to change
my life ten years sober with no alcohol and stuff
like that, So his approach is really good. I do
think it's fair for him to go off with the
runoff with Karen Bass. This way, both of them can
(08:49):
go ahead and prove to me why they deserve my vote.
So as of today, I'm doing it, yes, because I
do like his approach and I do think he deserves
a fair chance. But come November it could be different.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Really interesting how many people are animated one way or
not really interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
It is very interesting how animated people are one way
or another. Find me an animated Karen Bass photer.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Please.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
One ms NOW correspondent did a little bit and I'm
not going to exactly quote it, but I'll paraphrase.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It was something along the lines.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Of, you know, this is sort of nefarious. He's alleging
that it's an nefarious sort of populism, wherein Spencer Pratt
talks about obvious problems and how to solve them, and
I'm like, I got news for you that nefarious populism
could really work. I'm not sure if people are convinced
that that is a problem to talk about the problems
(09:41):
elsewhere in California. I just wanted to note a little
dummy mandering the new California sixth, yeah, which Kevin Kylie
was supposed to be drawn out of in a Democrat
into In that primary, Kevin Kylie became an independent and
he finished first, the Republican finished second, and the Democrat
finished third last night, So it maybe that you have
(10:02):
a Republican and a right leaning independent fighting each other
for California sixth, which was not what Newsom.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Envisioned, right right, Well, that's the thing when you over Jerrymander,
You're going to leave some districts like that and you
risk it. So what else happened last night? New Jersey elected,
well didn't elect, but the Democrats chose him as their
standard bearer, and it's a very left leaning district, so
he's probably going to win. A super far left Democrat
(10:32):
who is connected to Al Qaeda. And here is our
friend Guy Benson to tell us about him.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
He had Annie McCarthy on my radio show just recently.
Andy was one of the prosecutors who put away the
blind Shake, this arch terrorist, mastermind of the first World
Trade Center bombing with the goal of murdering thousands of
New Yorkers. And the man you just mentioned running for
Congress in New Jersey was his interpreter, traveled around with him.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Was a confidant, and was a defense witness at that trial.
Beyond that, Brian Jewish Insider has reported that same man
subsequently went to Bosnia to volunteer for an organization that
was later exposed as an al Qaeda front and shut down.
This man is a leading candidate for Congress in New Jersey,
(11:21):
a state that lost more than seven hundred people on
nine to eleven. Are Democrats really going to make someone
like this their nominee for the United States Congress?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Well?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
No, soon, yeah they did. They made him the nominee
for Congress in that district and it's really quite pathetic.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, and really to put just the worst bow on
this story, Guy Benson also found out and put it
together that the hometown or the place where he raised
his family and the final resting place of Todd Let's
roll beamer of flight ninety three is in Cranberry, New Jersey,
which is in New Jersey twelve, which may very well
(12:02):
be and end up being represented in Congress by Adam Hamali,
who has all of those al Qaeda connections that we
just mentioned.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Bananas, It's really really something.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
You gotta wonder even in a very blue district in
Jersey where there were.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
So many lost.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I think there's thirty forty ish from this district alone
on nine to eleven.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Is there a normy revolt to this.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
To say you got the D behind your name? But like,
I don't think we can do this.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, I'm not that optimistic on it, but maybe I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, it's it's quite quite a look in the old
primaries of the Democrats in a lot of places.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
The other big story from last night is zach Lane.
I believe that's how you pronounce it, even though it's
spelled la h and I'm not one hundred percent sure
one the Republican nomination for Iowa governor. And this is
a big story because Trump endorsed his opponent and the
fact that some members of the conservative movement, I know
(13:10):
Turning Point Action is taking some credit here. I know
Steve Dice, who's a big Iowa radio show guy who
has a lot of influence in Iowa elections, also supported Zach.
They are all aligned with him. And it's sort of
interesting because we've talked about on here. Trump is the
ultimate king maker right now, there's absolutely no doubt about that.
But sometimes even Donald Trump doesn't get the candidate that
(13:33):
he wants.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, that's a break of a streak for him and
a lot of these primaries. Iowa went pretty well for
Normis in general last night because the Democratic primary for
the Senate seat against GOP Representative Ashley Henson, who is
very skilled and will do well in this red state.
(13:55):
He's a Normy as well, or at least more Normy
than many of the people coming out of these primaries.
And I believe a paralympic, former wheelchair basketball paralympian with
several medals, so those tool face off. So she she
she pulled a tough competitor. But this is still quite
a red state, even though it has been negatively affected
(14:15):
by tariffs on and the Iran war because of fertilizer
prices for crops. So that is something that is part
of the conversation there.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, but I'm.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Honestly, I'm glad to see like some fairly normally people facing.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Off right right, Well, we'll see, if you know, I've
heard kind of mixed things about this guy, so I
will absolutely stay a little bit more on top of it.
I have to admit I was not following this race
super closely and just assumed that whoever Trump was picking
was going to win. So when I had sort of
a lot of mail today about this guy winning, it
(14:51):
was surprising. And look, I'm not the only one. Apparently
Fox News didn't have a picture ready for him, because
it was like who is he and how did the happened?
So listen, that happens obviously long shots sometimes when I
don't know that he necessarily was a long shot, because
it looks like, again, he did have some I don't
(15:11):
want to say institutional support, he did have some ruit support. Yeah,
and he ended up Zach Lane ends up being the
Republican candidate for Iowa governor. Okay, we're going to take
a short break and be right back with more on Normally.
(15:31):
We are back on Normally, where Scott Pelly was the
host of sixty minutes and he was largely insufferable. He
had so many moments where I think that he could
have been fired, and this most recent one, Barry Weise,
who now runs CBS, she named Nick Bilton, the executive
(15:57):
producer of sixty minutes, and Scott Pelly got into an
explosive argument with him in front of everyone, where Bilden
tried to kind of talk it down a little bit,
get him to calm down. Pelly is used to getting
what he wants and he had this huge confrontation with
his new boss. People who heard about it on X
(16:20):
were all pretty shocked at that Pelly could behave this way,
and then a day later he was let go. So
I don't think there's anything crazy here other than the
left and Democrats. The left, howe everyone to freeze it,
are taking it very very poorly that this allegedly non
partisan talking head is no longer there, which is kind
(16:42):
of a tell.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
He made it absolutely impossible for them not to fire him. Yeah,
it's active in subordination in front of everyone. And as
Bilton's letter to Pelly makes clear, you made very clear
that you're not interested in a future of this news
program while working with the bosses. And I am amazed
(17:07):
at the extent to it, Like, could anyone make this
kind of a stink about losing a job under new management,
like a reporter or a journalist, because they this is
a normal thing. So many people have experienced getting a
new boss, Hiring practices change, a couple, people shift around,
a couple, people lose their jobs. The philosophy and the
(17:28):
management style are different. And you either leave, quit with
your dignity and move along with your life, or you
stay and do the job right. This isn't a giant trauma.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
It isn't.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
He's not the only person on Ears who can do
this job. I just find it so bizarre. And the
quotes on background, because of course you know they can't
come forward. The quotes on background are like, what's it
like among the staff? And it was like, uh, like
being awake during surgery.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Have you ever experienced anything? Have you ever experienced anything?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Because I worry for you when something real happens to
you other than a management dispute at your very white
collar job, because this is crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah. Apparently, Pelly had also said about Weiss, she has
no qualifications for her job. The changes that she's made
of the Evening News have been catastrophic, so why should
we expect that any of this is going to be
any better? He said that she was murdering sixty minutes.
She was brought in to kill it and is doing
exactly that. I mean, these are bananas things to say
about your boss's boss, and to say she's got no qualification.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
True.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah, she started the Free Press after very famously quitting
The New York Times, and by the time that they
sold it to Paramount, she had over one and a
half million paid subscribers. That is an insane number for
something that started as her own personal newsletter. Meanwhile, The
New York Times is like holding itself together with like
(19:06):
wordal subscriptions. I mean, it is a different universe. And
so CBS brought her on because she has proven that
she can take an old model and make it fresh
and new for our current time, and just people hate
her for it and the joke that she's some sort
of maga you know, Republican or whatever. It's absurd. Anybody
(19:30):
who has read her for a long time knows that
she's not at all that, and that they're trying to
make her into that because they don't want to make
any changes to their little fiefdom. Is really what's going
on right here?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
And kind of tell on themselves, yeah, when they're like, okay,
so there's an outlet that's trying something different. And the
person who you are trying to convince everyone is the
person crossing all these rubicons is a center left Jewish
lesbian from New York City. Like that's that's your maga caricature.
I also, this is a this is a tactic of
(20:04):
the left and turns out over and over again of
journalists which I hate, which is to assert that their
inability to control their emotions in public validates that something
truly extraordinarily.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Happen has happened to them.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Because I'm having this tantrum, whether I'm on the street
corner or in CBS's newsroom, it means someone has violated
me in a horrific manner. It's like, actually, no, you
could just respond more maturely, right, and that, like you're
not validating it.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
This is like a self angry because.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You're super angry.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
That's not how that works.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
We like to we can evaluate this situation outside of
your emotions, but apparently journalists can't do that, which.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
By the way, is part of the problem with journalism.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
And one last thing the quote that he gave the
New York Times where he says, I have been in combat.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Oh my god, And I mean, like, you know, you haven't.
You have covered combat? You have not been in combat.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
This bothers me because obviously it's incorrect, but it's like
it's it's such a picture of the whole problem. It's
self aggrandizing. Yeah, it's not true. It's misleading to readers.
It makes it seem like he's the hero of the
story when in fact, it is dangerous.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
To go be embedded with sure with soldiers.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
But the people doing the combat are risking their lives
to protect you, so you can tell the story of
what they do. And by the way, they sometimes put
themselves at more risk because they have a dumb, dumb
civilian with them.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Okay, like you're not in combat. Oh that got me.
I did not like that drama. H I did not
like it.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
And that he didn't have to walk it back at all.
Though where is the liberal media to be like, you
weren't actually in combat, Like again, it's just unfair that
we would have teeth gnashing on the right if somebody
said stuff like this, and we do and we have
it all the time, and we call out our side
and there's nobody to do it over there.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
By the way, I didn't have a particular issue with
Scott Pelly beyond like you know, of course I'm going
to disagree with him in general as a member of
the mainstream media until his behavior here, which I found
so lame, right, and I was like, maybe I should
look back upon my cursory understanding of Scott Pelly because
(22:25):
I'm unimpressed.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Right, people keep mentioning this. I think Emily's a naughty
said it, but like sixty Minutes is best known as
the show that you accidentally watch because it comes on
right after football. Like let's be real here, you know,
so trying to save it, God bless him. It needs
some changes.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Well, and Sharon Alfonsi I'll note, who was one of
the other reporters who was like, oh she did that
awful pro German speech.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Police peace your favorite. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
It was thirteen minutes long and included no rebuttal from
anybody who thought free speech was a good idea.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
It was amazing.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Right, and now if we don't let Scott Pelly back
into the anchor chair on sixty minutes, free speech is dead. Basically.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
That's obviously.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
We're going to take a short break and be right
back with one more segment of Normally.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
All right, guys, we are back on Normally with an
in case you missed it, an update from way.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Back in twenty twenty one. I don't know if you
remember this, Carol, but.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
There was this story and I remember it the summer
of twenty twenty one, when people were still kind of
losing their minds in the post George Floyd era in Canada,
in British Columbia place called Kamloops, where there was an
allegation by a First Nations tribe which is, you know,
indigenous or what we call Native American tribe in Canada
(23:44):
that said they had found evidence of two hundred and
fifteen some children, yeah, from formerly Catholic schools where Indigenous
children were taken in schooled and converted and sometimes abused
in mass graves, and this barked obviously, you know, chamationwide
reckoning and actually some not a small amount of vandalism
(24:07):
and attacks on churches, Catholic churches in response to this,
and huge amounts of media coverage. It turns out zero
evidence has ever been found ye that there were mass
graves there. And that's that is a fact that we
have known, like people who watched that story that caught
wind of that. But the Globe and Mail in Canada
(24:28):
finally wrote an editorial with a lot of throat clearing
for the libs. Yeah, yeah, that said, hey, we don't
actually have any evidence of this, and we should have
and in the future, we should probably check these.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Things, probably probably check these things. So that they claimed
at the time that they had identified they did use
this like special radar to identify the bodies underground, and
this special radar, I mean they had numbers. They were like, okay,
we found to fifteen potential burial sites near the Kamloops
(25:03):
Indian Residential School and the headlines would be like two
hundred and fifteen children's remains found. And then it turned
out that that didn't happen at all. It's wild how
unchecked this kind of thing went on. I'm glad they're
finally admitting to it, but so much damage has happened
because of it. Churches were vandalized, they were burned. I
(25:23):
mean they even just like they had vigils for these
people that they allegedly found that and they didn't find anybody.
They didn't find a single body.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
It's it's wild and just the newspaper having to say, well, yeah,
we didn't have anything zero, right. Yeah, perhaps looking for
evidence of an extraordinary claim should be our first step
instead of these six years later sort of maya culpa.
By the way, it's not a very good maya culpa,
because it's like, to be sure, many children were hurt
(25:56):
and some killed and perhaps there will be proof one day.
It's like, are you hoping that there were mass graves,
because that's what its like.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
We're happy there are no mass graves, Like I just.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
When you're taken for a ride this many times by
the media on the predictable identity based troops they want
to take like eventually you just this is the problem
with the public trust. By the way, this is also
the six year anniversary of the famous public health figure.
Yeah press release that gathering to solve racism is good
(26:32):
and fine and doesn't spread the virus.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Right, it's fine, it's just so important that they don't.
You no longer have to stay in. Everybody else who
doesn't want to protest against racism, you still have to
stay in. However, that's just science.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Anniversary of the day my brain broke.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
So yeah, so it's really a case in case you
missed it, and of we're still madro combined in one.
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Hey Jonas!
Hey Jonas! The official Jonas Brothers podcast. Hosted by Kevin, Joe, and Nick Jonas. It’s the Jonas Brothers you know... musicians, actors, and well, yes, brothers. Now, they’re sharing another side of themselves in the playful, intimate, and irreverent way only they can. Spend time with the Jonas Brothers here and stay a little bit longer for deep conversations like never before.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.