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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
This is technically episode six. Welcome to episode six. We
have a very special tree for you today. It's actually
technically our first guest in recording order. But joining us
today on the back of the bus is x VFL
recording artist songwriter Wow Thomas Edwards.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Everyone give it up for Thomas Edwards.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Thomas.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Hey, you did say something, though you know I'm not
an x VFL man. I'm a vol for honestly saying
that felt weird.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
He Thomas did play for the University of Tennessee, but
he is correct. He is a once a VFL, always
a VFL. Except for maybe Matt Malone, our intern.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
We're not gonna We're not gonna much time on him.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
We already said.
Speaker 6 (00:51):
Now, yeah, yeah, most weekends and oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Which you know, it's funny to go down to t Town,
but not every weekend you hold it down in Knoxville.
But yeah, this is a super special episode because me
and Garrett are very very close with Thomas. He's one
of our greatest friends. He is a very talented songwriter
and musician. He is going to blow up, and if
he's not already on that path, it's really cool to
(01:17):
have you here, Thomas oh Man, We would love for
you to maybe give the viewers who don't know who
you are a little background. Maybe start from like day one,
you know, first breath, first memory, and then just kind
of go from there.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
So my parents are hanging out in the summer of
nineteen ninety four and they felt an immense passionate love
fall across them, and then they banged. And I came
out in nineteen ninety five in March. But then, so
the most recent parts of my life that are noteworthy
expand on that ekspan, on that I played football at Tennessee.
(01:50):
You know, my NFL dreams got smashed because I got
a shoulder surgery my senior year. And it wasn't just
my shoulder surgery that smashed my NFL dreams. I also
did and play a lot, but the shoulder thing was
just icing on the cake. I grew up playing a
lot of music. My family is a big music family.
Always to my great grandpa, he was a He played
(02:12):
banjo for June Carter back in the day when she
was in the Carter Sisters. And my mom and dad,
aunt and uncle, grandpa, grandma cousins. They all play music
and so it's always been a part of my life.
And then I went to play football because I was
a big, burly men, and I was like, I gotta
do something about this.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Played football for a little bit and then.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Got a sorry, I love a camera social.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah, I love a moment on the camera. Love a
moment on the camera, man.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
So then you know, I got played football for a
little bit, and you know, my life kind of switched
when even though I didn't play a lot, you know,
you still had to practice the same amount. So when
you get hurt in football, you go from one hundred
miles an hour to zero. And during that I kind
of just like was like, what the heck am I doing?
I need to figure out something to do with my times.
I picked up a guitar and I wrote my f
(03:00):
song when I was in college, and then I, uh,
you know, I had this kind of unrealistic life at Tennessee,
and I was grateful that I kind of realized that early.
I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna move
to the middle of nowhere and just go live in
the real world. Because the funny thing about like Tennessee
you play there and then like you like me, a
guy was a non contributor. I go to the mall
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and like, people know who I am when I'm at
the food court, you know, and that's just like not
a real depiction of life. And I knew that, and
I'm grateful that I had that awareness. So I just
moved to the middle of nowhere. I moved to Franklin, Kentucky,
which is like an hour and fifteen minutes north of here.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
In Nashville gambling hall, Yeah, yeah, it's right.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
They busited me, they came. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
I just lived across the street from this warehouse I
worked at for three years, and then about two years
into that, I was like, I don't want to do
this anymore. Worked another year, saved up money, and then
Quentin started doing music.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
No, I just cut you off. Thomas Ayes like it
was some like low tractor supply.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
He was the youngest in history there and he was
running a floor of how many people.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
It was a million square footwear house, six hundred employees.
I was the production manager. So I was like, my
job was over it, but you know, yeah, my job
was was a fun job.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Man. It was every day.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
I on Monday, I would get on a call with
a bunch of executives at a tractor supply and convinced
them without lying that the building wasn't on fire and
we weren't behind on everything, and it really it was
a great life lesson though. It taught me how to
like strategically lie to corporate people, which is a great
it's a great skill to have, especially.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
Not gonna help us get a sponsorship for don't do
that yet.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Actually, I uh just got a sponsorship from trying to
supply let's go actually do the work for whatever their
slogan or in the process of it. Man, So I
don't even know what even even means, but it's pretty cool, man.
It's they'd have a they're very really passionate their heckquarter
out of Nashville and have a big presence with music
and love music. And I grew up going there with
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a farm in East Tennessee and then worked there and
then now I play music. So it's just kind of
was a softball toss, you know how that came to
be though. I just cold emailed the CEO of tractors.
Speaker 8 (05:03):
Fly y'all need a manager?
Speaker 6 (05:05):
Classic, Yeah, I was just like, hey, you guys want
to sponsor me? I used to work there and they're like, yeah,
talk to the and you just emailed me back. Oh god,
you know they just worked.
Speaker 9 (05:16):
Yeah, were you all in charge of I'm guessing since
it was a warehouse, were you in charge of like
the shipping and receiving side to stores.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Or yeah, so that it was a distribution center. So
we save your Mars pet food, you send them that
bag goes from the Mars pet food plant to this
distribution center to the store.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
It's literally so not glamorous. I worked the whole time
during COVID that never closed, you know, that was essential.
Did My job became like air traffic controlling CDC regulations
that changed every day to five hundred employees that live.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
In south central Kentucky that do not give a ship
about any of that. So, like it was crazy. That
was fun.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
It was I love chaos, man, And it was just
chaos all the time. It was like, you guys, you
can you can go. You can take your mass off
outside now, but when you soon you step in the building,
you gotta have them on. Then then like three days later
it's like we gotta have masks on outside now.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
And then it was just crazy.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Man. I was the guy that had to like take
this information and like train our managers on like how
to disseminate it between people and crazy.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
It was just nuts.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
That was like a thing I did in my life,
and it seems so far away, but it really was
like four years ago, that long ago.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
So I feel like most people in here can relate,
if not everyone, Like not.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
All of us played football.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Mitch played football in college's Usquehanna, but for most of us,
it's like I feel like we started in a like
kind of non glorious atmosphere, whether it was like for
me selling windows or like just like whatever mundane job
you did before you maybe took a chance on being creative.
So like we might not understand the whole like football
dilemma and like being recognized, you know, West Town mall
(06:49):
to being here and chatter supply, but I feel like
we all can take a piece of like you do
really have to take a shot. Like I don't want
to turn this into some like someone dining down there,
like shut.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Up, is everybody okay?
Speaker 10 (07:05):
I said, I don't want this to turn into some
like motivational speech podcast, but I do think it's important
for any like aspiring creatives out there.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
To know, like it doesn't just happen, like you're not
gonna just wake up and be in like some dream
opportunity where like everything's cool and kosher. Like even today
when we work in this atmosphere where it's amazing, there's
still very much stressful days and like chaotic opportunities all
the time. But you know, it's important, I feel like
to figure out like what you don't like doing before
you figure out like what you do like doing. So
(07:38):
I feel like everyone can kind of take a little
piece of what you're saying, like once you figure out that, like, yeah,
the warehouse is not for me, and you take a
risk creatively, like that's.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
What ultimately pays off.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
And we've had millions of conversations and kitchens late night
talking about this exact idea. But will you kind of
like walk us through like your process on starting your
music endeavors and like where you kind of stem from
outside out of you being already musically inclined.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Yeah, dde uh well, I think in the tune of
that creative thing man like that it's it's it's you know,
someone told me when I first was working, it was
like you can't take advice from average people if you
want to do something different. So as soon as I
kind of learned that and realize, like, if people don't
understand what I want to do, it's just on them.
It's not the fact that I'm crazy. If you want
(08:23):
to do something, you can just do it. You just
figure out how to do it, you know. And that's
kind of the approach that took the whole time. And
I used to be a guy that was like I
don't want to ask him because he's going to say no.
And now it's just like I don't even care. Le's
look back to that email thing. It's just you know,
And I learned that, like, you know, getting into music,
I had this wall up that like I cared too
much that someone else cared about what I was doing.
(08:44):
And then the most liberating thing that kind of accelerated
everything in my in my world was when I just
let go of that. And and the biggest thing, you know,
the kind of the first domino that fell for me
to kind of you know, wave my arms in Nashville
and say, hey, look at me, I'm I make a music,
it was when I did that Tennessee song, and it's
a song that's so deliberately about my life. And so
(09:08):
when I was righting, I was like, this is lame
as hell, Like who the hell, Like, who's gonna like?
What is this even? But my manager, Rusty, me and
him wrote it together. He's he's from East Tennessee and
he's not a music manager. We just kind of partnered
up and rubbed some sticks together and made some shit happen.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
But the but yeah, he was like, that's exactly what
people want to hear.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
And then and then that song came out and then
the school wrapped their arm around it. They played into
the you know, on the JumboTron and stuff, and and
then they they came to town here to open the
season one day or one year against Virginia. In that
first day, uh, the game of the season, they played
it in Nissan And that was kind of the my
entry into this.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Music business world.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
It was just like, you have these music executives that
you know or either they have control and know what's
going on in the country music space, and all of
a sudden there's this huge sasquatch looking dude on the
jumbo tron singing a song that that hadn't heard. And
then and that was kind of that what got the
ball rolling. But you know that's that was all the
external stuff I think it. You know, I quit my
job in two thousand October twenty twenty one, and last
(10:11):
year in twenty twenty four, in March, I signed a
publishing deal, which is the first revenue stream.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
That I got from music. So they're.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
To go.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
They like to think the academy.
Speaker 11 (10:25):
Like.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
The funny thing is is like every time that I
thought I was going to get to the point where
I was like, that made it. You just read you're
as a creative, your brain just kind of restructures towards
another mountain that's far away. And and I learned that, like,
you know, through that process, you have to be you
have to be comfortable and excited for doing what you're
doing every day. You know, Like the marathon's twenty six
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miles and the finish line is one foot you know,
you have.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
To like the you have to.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Like the quote graphic.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah, yeah, man, that's time war time.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
A marathon is twenty six miles and runners are crazy
and they don't like the finish line. They like the
way they feel when they're in mile nineteen, you know,
And so just you know, you just got to know
that the process is more important, especially for a creative,
and it's so hard not to fall, especially in this
forward facing business that we're we're all in this where
your work is put on a pedestal immediately, you know,
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and there's no time for editing and reactions. It's just
like more more stuff out there that's promotes what we
got to do. And you know, the way that I
keep sanity is that we make paper airplanes as creatives,
and we close our eyes on top of a mountain
and we chuck them. And the best creatives, as soon
as they chuck them, they just look right back down
(11:43):
to start making them more paper airplanes. Where they land
have nothing to do with who you are, who you
are as a creative. There's wind, there's rain, there's walls,
there's people, there's all these things that happen after they're
off out of your hands.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Yeah, let's go, man, It's.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
All right, you get me going, man, But like I
just so I just got I know, man, shit, sorry,
I get excited, but like that's a I just kind
of I realized that no one was gonna tell that
shit to me, and I had to tell it to myself.
And I just started working on my body of work.
And you know, the other day I wrote my kind
of counted all my songs since I'd been writing, and
(12:17):
I'd written two hundred and twelve songs in the two
years and.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
A twelve paper airplanes.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
Yeah, it's right, man, Guess how many of them are good?
Maybe twenty, maybe thirty, maybe I don't even know, Like
I don't even what's good even mean at this Like,
once you start doing that so much, it's like your
your brain opens up, because, like you know, as this
music consumer, everyone has this is this good?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Is this bad?
Speaker 6 (12:40):
And that's where you start at. Then you realize, oh,
this could be good for someone else. I get it,
you know, and then it kind of expands on that
and and through that I figured out the kind of
music that I like to make. And it's only just
through doing throwing two hundred and twelve paper airplanes that
you realize you figure out that I just like making
paper airplanes.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
You know, like it's up to it's up to the
people if they want to laying you know, man, Yeah, yeah,
my bad, y'all.
Speaker 12 (13:14):
It's so cool to like see like your ascension and
stuff already, even though like you've just started, and like
we like Jack and G introduced us to you, like
just as it started, like when you were first started.
Like I remember going to your uh, like when you
played an ACME and that was like, this is so sick,
Like I know that guy and he's out here performing
in front of however many people they were.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah, that was that was awesome.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
That was the the fire marshalled that night at that
ACME thing, because.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
It was that the Virginia Tech game.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah, it was the same game.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
I plugged in an old hard drive at home recently
looking for something and came across pictures from that.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
It's crazy, man, that's wild.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
That you were talking about that.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
Yeah, And I think the craziest thing with my music
career is I have been incredibly you know, and it's
probably to my own defeat and sometimes, you know, I
my progress is kind of like unless you're like my
friend and I talk about it to you, that's like
you wouldn't really like if you look went to my
instagram right now, you wouldn't really know like all the
things that were going on, you know, and I've kind
of you know, you know, at first, it was like
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I think I was like you know, I got to
do something about this.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
But like, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
I think as I kind of got more into this,
I realized, like, you know, I loving what I'm doing
right now, and I'm making progress in this business world
like that that's just a piece of the pie. Like
when't and I have songs coming out starting next month,
so that you know, the world changed there where you
know we're you're I'm gonna be inundating you with my
stuff on the internet. It's soon, but you know, it's
it's been really it's kind of been a soul searching
(14:39):
thing because I don't have these you know, there's not
a there's not an Instagram grid milestone thing that you
typically see from the you know, and from an artist.
And I just learned that from that helped me so
much to know that like that's not what matters.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
You know.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
I know that I started writing songs. I know that
I got a publishing deal, and then I know I
got a record deal, and I know there's people that
believe in me and are just straight up gambling on
me with zero data analytic backing, just like, hey, this
guy's got a good story to tell and he can
make music and that's what gets me up every day,
and not the fact that it's like did this do well?
Does this thing do well? And it's so easy to
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get caught up in that. In this in a creative,
forward facing job, like I think.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
To build off of that and to give you some
credit on top of you being incredibly talented, when you
walk in a room, you're immediately friends with everybody in
there for sure. And that is something that I've always
thought about you, is you have such a leg up
in that aspect. Is I hate using the word like
(15:41):
you're sellable, but yeah, you get in a room with
the right people, then it's like you know how to
just be yourself and then let the music put that
cherry on top where they're like, oh shit, like this
guy's not only a good guy, honest, truth to himself, funny,
but he can fucking ball.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yeah. And that's kind of my whole thing. Man.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
I just want people to feel good and the way
that and with no because that's what makes me feel good.
And the medium in which that that happens is up
to them, Like if I can talk to them and say, hey,
you know, make them feel good in five seconds in
the room, or if they can just go home and
listen to a song that makes.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Them feel good like that.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
I just always say I like to I like to
sing with a smile, man, Like, very seldomly am I
singing this dejected sad you know, Like my sad songs
are like, man, I got my heart broke, but at
least I learned something. You know, there's always this redeep
shit at the end of it. Because that's how I
am as a person. Man, I'm just I was very
grateful to have parents that you know, we're just like
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you can do whatever you want all the time. And
I mean in my all my brothers. My older brother
is a criminal defense litigator in Philadelphia. My little brother's
about to be a park ranger. So like we are
doing the things that they said and it's just and
I attribute then that's how my mom is. She doesn't
she doesn't know stranger man. She'll talk to the person.
She's She's the reason why I don't use self checkout
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at the grocery store. Like if you talk, She's like,
if you talk to them for five seconds, you don't
understand how much it's going to do for you. And
I was just you know, when you're when you're like
a rebellious kid. You're like, shut up, mom, checking, I'm
getting this nass energy drink, you know. But she's so right,
you know me. Meaningless interactions are not meaningless, you know.
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We dubbed them as that because the pace of life
goes too fast, and I think of I think that
my job on earth is to is to let people
know that and remind them of that with me being
around them or just playing stupid little fun songs.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
You know.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
You know it's yeah, I've won the lottery because I've
figured that out. And I think that's the one thing
that I will tell everyone is like, just spend time
trying to figure it out.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Whatever it is for you. At least you can do
is just try, you know.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
For sure.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Going back to like you talking about your Instagram feed
and all that kind of stuff, there's not really milestones.
But there have been some Easter eggs recently that you've
been putting out that are awesome to see. And from
my understanding, they're mostly covers, yeah, but they're shot really well.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Yeah, and it's just you and a microphone.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
And that is my favorite Thomas Edwards, because I feel
like that's the Thomas Edwards I knew first have those
been Obviously they are a lot of fun to do.
But when you're posting that stuff for you, are you
kind of like putting teasers out of like the vibe
you're going for or is this just something for you personally?
Speaker 6 (18:28):
Yeah, I just I just oh, that's a great question
because this the first song that I'm dropping is it's
a it's a very fun drinking song and it's it's
I'm talking half the time in the song, you know,
for my sanity, you know, after I'm coming out of
the gates and this major record label deal with this
song where I'm talking half the time. Yeah, Well, the
(18:51):
lady that signed me at Warner signed Sam Hunt at Universal.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I love Sam Hunt.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
She also sung Casey most Graves.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
You are also just the kind of her ideology of
artist are kind of in my wheelhouse, where it's just
like we're country by nature, but not by the business
denomination of country music. And I think that's in this
world and we're innundated with the same things and country
music all the time. It's just like people ride the wave.
And here's another analogy, man, it's a you know, in
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this town, you can be a cruise ship or you
can be a little dinghy boat. You know, there's a
cruise ships go out in the ocean. They're massive and
they break through the waves and the result of that
is behind them there's a clear path for many many people,
and smaller boats can last in the waters behind a
big yacht or a big, huge cruise ship. It takes
a long time to build a yacht at the poor
(19:40):
It takes a long time to build a cruise ship.
And sometimes when you're building it, you're like, man, I
just want to get out in the water, Like, look
at all these people. They're out there in the water
ten miles out. But if that big cruise ship that
they're behind goes to Poor ever, then they don't even
know what the open waters feel like. And that's everything
that you're doing in life. I mean, it's not even
just music. It's like you have to realize that everybody
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has their cruise ship to build, and once you spend
time doing that and it's ready to go out to
the ocean, then you're gonna have you'll be successful and
whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
It's a ten thousand hour thing, you know.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
And so first big purchase, yeah, yeah, dude.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
It's yeah, first first big purchase, three hundred and sixty
five day cruise on Royal.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
I'll be behind you.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
Yeah, sorryer making it so like inspirational. Man, I'm also
not really a serious guy, but like when I get
a mic in my hand, I feel like I have
something to say to people.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Man, I can't.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
That's what it's for.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yeah, that's what it's for.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
This podcast is our dingy boat.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Oh yeah, it's right, Sherman.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Sherman just whispered to me. Can I ask him something?
So I think he wants to ask the question.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Cut me off at any time because I just run
my mouth.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
No, you're not running around.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
You're the guests.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Socks, Drincken socks.
Speaker 9 (20:44):
When you first came in, you were talking a little
bit about this, but uh, with the new deal, did
you feel like your paper airplanes were made with notebook
paper and now you have construction paper, and like, how
how does that now throwing off change the energy? I
guess of like your creative process.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
Yeah, man, It's what I say all the time is
I was creative broke for a long time. It's it's
it's that's when you figure out.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
If you're really creative.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
You know, it's like if you make some it's like
that toy Story four when they make.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
The forky or whatever they think legend.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
Yeah dude, yeah, he goes, am I trash. There's so
many great existential moments of that. But uh, but I
think that now it's just what it is, is just
exactly what you're saying. It just excites me even more
that I like, I can go into the Warner studios
and just say, hey, I want to do some covers.
I just went in there for two hours one day
(21:44):
and had two videographers in there that that was their passion.
I mean I was talking to the guy that was
the videographer and and wasted thirty minutes of that. Now
not waste, but this is just who I am. But
like he's like I used to be a wildlife photographer
and I was like, dude, you ever seen Secret Life
of Walter Mittie? And he was like, was so good?
And uh and then we just talked about that forever
because it's so good. But to your to your question,
(22:06):
the uh, yes, it just inspires me more.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
You know.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
The at first I sought the validation. I thought the
validation was gonna make the paper better, you know. But
really it was just the tools and the abilities that
it could further my ability to be creative. They got
me excited the fact that there's a little nice studio
that has a wonderful mic that I can just go
in there and I literally just was. I just had
a guitar and a piano and I was just like
running through songs that I could play and it's just fun,
(22:30):
you know. And then I could just leave that and
then a week later get a Google Drive length, like,
I'm so grateful for that after years of propping my
phone up and you know, it's filming grainy, you know
how it is. Man, It's just it's just inspiring now.
It's it just it lights another fire in the end
to make more music. And it's it's been awesome.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Man. Sick.
Speaker 9 (22:54):
You're deserving of it. It's cool to see it, dude.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
I appreciate it. Man.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
I don't deserve nothing. Man, I'm just here for a
good time. You'll feel good, man. I think that's the
That's what keeps me afloat, man, that's what keeps my
keeps the ship.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
On the water.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, changing gears a little bit. You bring up a
secret life of Walter Midi obviously incredible film, and one
of my favorite lines that whole movie is at the
end when they're up in like the Pakistanian mount or something,
he goes, are you gonna take the photo? And he goes,
sometimes I don't. Beautiful things don't ask for attention, And
that just kind of fires me up. But I know this,
(23:28):
Garrett knows this. We're big movie guys here. Oh yeah,
and this is this is my least favorite question of
all time.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
But what's your favorite movie?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Oh uh?
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Jack knows this. Well, I am the biggest movie critic.
I think we lack critics in art now because everyone
has a voice and everyone needs to shut up most
of the time.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Your phones are too cheap.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Yeah it's right, man, and we're just yeah, I'm telling
you man. Like you know, in the nineties, you could
live in fucking Manhattan and just be a snobby movie
critic and have a nice little apartment and that'd be
your job. But the Internet came along and now we
devalue those opinions. Well, and I think that's just my
sobox about that. My favorite movie is a Soul Pixar movie.
(24:09):
It's just pound for pound, man, it's then does the
soundtrack quite Cody?
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yeah, quite quite Cody. I have not, Jared, have you
seen that movie.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
If you haven't seen that, If you're looking for something,
go watch Yeah, dude.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
It's uh, it's it's one of those that's in My
second one is probably out of that wheelhouse is Parasite, The.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Stilled the Korean. Yeah, I won so many awards. Yeah
you don't.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
I don't even feel like I'm reading subtitles in it.
Though it's shot so well, there's so much good. Like
the coolest thing about that movie Parasite is every part
that there's a person that has an economic status higher
than another person. They are physically higher than the other
person is in the shot in the movie every time.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Then you're in it.
Speaker 11 (25:00):
Yeah, dude. Sorry, back to Seoul. I love Souls, but
I think they left so much meat on the bone.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
I mean, what do you mean, Like it.
Speaker 11 (25:09):
Was just the the climax of the movie at the
whole point didn't feel as hot.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
I know, but like, I don't.
Speaker 11 (25:17):
There wasn't like, what was your favorite bar from the
movie that you're like, there wasn't a bar.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
It was the moment of this story about the fish
that's a great one.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
Yeah, big Fish swims up to a little fish and says,
I'm looking for the ocean, and the ocean this is water.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
But you know, I feel like in Kung Kung Fu Panda, Well, I.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Think that's kind of the moral of the whole movie,
Like there isn't this that movie Soul is incredibly existentialist.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
It is it's about how existing.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
Isn't this pomp and circumstance, huge fan ferret like at
the end of Star Wars when the Ewoks celebrate, you know,
like that like that doesn't exist, you know, And I
think that's the whole point of Like the spark isn't
a thing that you get in Seoul, It's it's just
being aware of the life that you're living. And that
he goes through that the end scene of Soul when
he places all the objects on the piano and plays
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that outro piano music and then it just zooms out
from the piano to the New York City skyscape, to
America to the Earth, you know, like it's just it
wasn't even the line that's not it wasn't a line
that did. It was that moment of just kind of
like like I just that movie fifty times.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Just go this is a movie for kids, Like what
you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 8 (26:29):
It's just like this is a I would love to
watch it through kid's eyes.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a great thing about it.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Like my teacher says that that line
before it is like we are you know, it's like
we are the collective energy of all that exists.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Yeah, that's great. Man.
Speaker 9 (26:48):
Have you seen Mickey seventeen? No, it's the director that
did Parasite. It just came out, but it's an English film.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Uh, Robert Pattinson.
Speaker 9 (26:57):
Robert Pattins, it was really really good, and watch it's
it's got some deep tropes to you.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Yeah, dude, I love one. That's and that's why I
bring back that critic thing critics in a movie. In
a movie critic world, that's like healthy critics would help
the average list watcher or listener understand that after the
first watch, instead of asking a watch, someone say you
gotta go watch it three times? Like that's what an
irresponsible ask. But time is valuable.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
You know.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
If someone says, if someone says you gotta go see
a movie and they say I saw that, I didn't
get it in the responses, you got to go watch
it again, Like either.
Speaker 8 (27:37):
You failed your job, either the movie guy.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Failed or you're too dumb to watch this movie, you know,
Like it's just you can go watch one of the
Marvel movies.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
So to shill in the Marvel movies, to Marvel.
Speaker 12 (27:52):
Movies, hell to play, like Devil's Advocate. What about like
Inception and like Interstellar and like those movies that are
like they're not in the same vein as like Soul
and stuff like that. But those movies you have to
watch a couple of times, so you know what's going on.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Well, I mean I think you do, see, don't I
don't think. I don't think you need to, dude. Marvel
movies are why they are casting Robert Downey Junior in
the same universe for a different I'm with you on that,
but I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
It's not a fall off, but there is a level
of respect.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Guardians of the Galaxy.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Guardians Galaxy is pretty good.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
I didn't mean to take away from it.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
And this goes back to Thomas being the ultimate critic.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
I hate I hate everything.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
Usually, yeah, I have to I have to put my
own opinion on it, Like I can't.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
Like if you can't let someone else make their own
air like.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
In the world.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Yeah, yeah, man, I mean I'm but like if they
were good to make, if they knew how to make
paper airplanes, they wouldn't care what I said, you know.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
They the.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
But uh I don't know Interstellar.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Yeah yeah, I mean I get that, Like, you know,
like there's like I would like to meet the guy
that got Fight Club the first time, you know. Yeah,
I understand there are some mental flip movies, you know,
but I always check out. One of those that got
me was that Mother movie with Jennifer Lawrence. Oh yeah,
and I was like, oh, this is like the creation
(29:14):
of the world, you know, Like I was just like
it's like, damn, she's fucking crazy, you know, like, no,
this is this a bigger meeting.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Though she like came out and said, I will never
do anything like that.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Yeah, it kind of messed me up a little bit.
You know how funny is that we can just like
turn movies on our TV and just be like fucked
up by him forever.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Well yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
Also in the data was so much new ship this
day you have to have discretion and have an opinion
otherwise you're just gonna get suckered into whatever marketing campaigns
pushing something down your throat, Like did you see that
new series on Apple TV?
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Another one came out last week, and then the one
before that one came out.
Speaker 8 (29:51):
I give it like a shrinking in the studio.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Yeah, I give it like a nine month buffer, And
if people still talk about it nine months later, then
I all started.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I love that rule. I love that rule.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Did you watch Severance?
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Yeah? I watched the first season, Severnce. I liked it.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
You have watched second? Oh, you should watch the seasons.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I've watched a lot of TV lately. Man, you've been.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Busy back the speaking of it busy.
Speaker 7 (30:11):
Yeah, you've recently had some I'm gonna take it back
to music, but you've recently had a couple of live shows,
like you did the Key West Songwriter Fest this year.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Third year. Yeah, thirdys, third year.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
I played the big stage there for like, we did
an acoustic except for like seven thousand dude videos.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Looked Yeah, it looked awesome.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
It was.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
We played all originals too, and that's usually like taboo
in that environment. But like the Key West Songwriter Fest,
the people that are there is it's the best fans
because they're there for a songwriting fest. It's not like
you know, they're they they're sitting there listening to the words.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
You know.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
Usually people would just get drunk at festivals, you know,
and have a good time. But yeah, then we we
played Tortuga. We played Carolina Country Music Festival last week.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
It's Tortuga where you wore the Kenney Powers. No, that
was Carolina, okay, because it was myrtle that was perfect,
but it was people were screaming, screaming Kenny Powers lines
at me, so I had to like keep composure while
I was singing.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
And it rained.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
It pour rain the whole day, like, and the festival
is delayed. But like we just like we just like
sat on the stage. We're just like waiting. It's like
he knows, like horses in a corral for like the
lightning delays to stop. And people came in and we
started playing there and then uh, we played like thirty
seconds of a song. We're getting rocking, and of course
you know, I'm a new guy, so I'm on the
(31:32):
I'm on the B stage. And then Colt Ford is
across this huge park and he starts and the stage
guy comes on and goes.
Speaker 8 (31:39):
We gotta stop cold Ford going on.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
So then we just we stopped and then we just
waited and then we just started again. But it was
just funny because there's two stages and they're so far
away from each other because you can't hear each other. Uh.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
But then as soon as we started, I was just screaming.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
We're over here because it was such a weird day
because it was rained out all day.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
But yeah, we've been playing shows. Man.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
You know, I got a band of four guys and
two of them are from East Tennessee and the we're
playing Sunday, we leave for wild Wood Country Festival in
New Jersey.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Really good time.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Oh yeah, is that the one on the beach?
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Yeah, So it's funny. I've only played festivals on the beach.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
What are those nerves like?
Speaker 7 (32:24):
Like, you know, you do a lot of I mean,
you started doing music and putting it on the internet
covid ish and then you know you're in the studio
and then you're getting in front of these large crowds
with a band. Are there times when you're like oh shit,
oh shit, or shit?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Are you like?
Speaker 4 (32:41):
This is awesome?
Speaker 6 (32:42):
It's awesome? Man like, and that's why it's the best.
It's the icing on the cake for everything that I've
worked for, you know, like it's it is the it's
the opposite what you would think about nerves. Like I
get nerves sitting around here not playing music. You know,
Like if I'm sitting in my house and just like
idly sitting around, I'm like, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (32:58):
You know?
Speaker 6 (32:58):
And it's cause how I grew up. Like if there's
anything there's at my house right now, if my mom
and dad are there, someone's playing music.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
My dad's playing fiddle or dude. Like the other day,
like like I grew up with that.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Like the other day, my dad sent me this, like
here's your grandma singing in her band in high school,
and I'll send you guys a song.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
It's so beautiful. It's like sixties just like shit like that.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
So I grew up around like that, like where music
was just played all the time, no matter what it was.
And I never played less music than when I came
here to the Nashville, you know, like I spent you know,
of course, that's part of it, you know, especially at
the beginning, is you know, taking the approach that I'm doing.
You know, there's a lot of ways to skin the
cat of music world. Like you can be you can
(33:40):
stand in a forest with an s M seven microphone
and seeing a bunch and be on the presidential debate
in two weeks or yeah, or I mean that's one
way to skin the cat. Or you can or you
can come here, you write the songs, and you network
with this town. That's what I love about this town
is there's a thousand people here that are absolutely phenomenal songwriters.
(34:01):
There's songs that will never be heard that you only
can hear just through being in this city. And that's
kind of my approach to, like, you know, of being
here is like just I get to wake up and
go write songs with these people that I'd never met,
and you know, it's like you I never looked people up.
But like now I'm to the point where, like I
walk out of there and it's like, oh, this guy
wrote live like you were dying.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
You know.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
It's like it's you just think about all those songs, man,
and that's just kind of like the little race you're
stretching for is trying to get one of those. But yeah,
playing playing shows has been awesome, man. It's it's it's
the it's the icing on the cake.
Speaker 10 (34:36):
Man.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
That's kind of what I want to do is hang
my hat on that, because longevity and music comes from
playing live shows. And right now the public view of
what success is in music is so skewed, you know,
and and you know, it's people that just have routine shows.
People that are playing and growing a fan base and
showing up for the fan base and delivering their songs.
(34:58):
You know, that's the ones that and overtime grow. And
that's the approach that I'm taking is we don't want
a gas fire man, we just want to we want
to be one percent better man, you know, And that's
what we're trying to do playing great show, Dude.
Speaker 11 (35:09):
I feel like the dream show at some point has
to be you bring your mom and dad up.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Oh. Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Also, I just put them on the record because so
I just recorded. Yeah, I just recorded five songs with
Warner and with Dave Cohen producing, and we went to
Blackbird Studio Studio d where one of the most legendary
places in music. And uh, you know, I had some
of the best players on there too, man. But I
just my parents are to have such a pure relationship
with music that they don't even care about anyone knowing
(35:39):
that they play music, right, And I just kind of
took that on myself to be like, you know what,
I care. So I got them to come down here,
and I got my mom to sing harmony background vocals
on one of my records. That way she can be
in this fancy official Warner Music database as a background singer,
because I mean, just giving back to the people that
taught me everything I knew about music. And we're gonna
(36:00):
get my dad down here to do some fiddle passes
on some stuff too. But but yeah, man, they're gonna
be up there eventually, probably way sooner than I should.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Honestly. I mean my mom saying with me that night
to act me.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was cool with changing gears
of away.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Do you have a question of music, Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 12 (36:17):
You mentioned like working here in Nashville, and like obviously
everybody knows this is like the country music capital of whatever.
Like I I'm so curious, yeah, ladies, I'm so curious
to hear, so curious to hear, like because I follow
like these like a couple of people that are local
to hear that are just like on social media, that
(36:38):
have big social media filings, but you don't really see them,
Like how what that world is like as an up
and comer with other up and comers coming as well
as it like a doggy dog world? Are you like
I'm trying to like scratch your back, you scratch mine?
Speaker 6 (36:50):
Kind Yeah, I think, And that's how good. And I
just learned through great influences that the people that last
in this business are good people. Like it's just like
that you get weeded out so quickly that the era
of hard to deal with rock star is over with
the over exposure of the internet, like it's it's all
about treating people right. And but no, there's no you know,
(37:11):
I think for people that are insecure in their artistry,
there's a lot of looking left and right and seeing
what's going on. But I don't really care what anyone
else does if they're success. If they're successful, I'm happy
for him. This is a hard world to be successful,
and there's there and also there is no finite pieces
of cake to be eaten. Everyone can get fed, like
it's it's just all about differentiating yourself and and I
(37:32):
love cheering people on man. Like a couple of my
close buddies, Dalton Davis and j Cass.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
You know, we all met each other. They're the dogs.
Man and Dalton just signed a record deal too the
other day, and a big one.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Putting out some awesome stuff.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
Yeah man, Yeah, shout out to Dalton and Jake cast.
He's one of the most He's from one of the
most iconic gospel families, has one of the most pure
voices and.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
All souls soul.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
His relationship with music is like, that's if you want
to know it's going to take an artist a long
way independent of me, is just figure out why they
like music, and that'll just tell you how long they're
going to be able to play music. A lot of
the problem is now is we used to make talented
people famous in music.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
It would be it'd be a guy.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
I mean from the back of the day, like a
guy come to the record label, knock on the door
and say, I got a bunch of tapes. You believe
in me, you know, come on, listen, listen to these
They're great. I got a vision and you know, flash forward,
and now we try to make famous people talented. We
try to get people that already have a pre existing
following for whatever reason, doesn't matter, and then we put
(38:35):
a square peg around a hole and put music into
these people's hands and then they fizzle out because their
relationship with music is not genuine, you know. And that's
but yeah, just to it's never comparison. I just like
cheering everybody on.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
I think.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
I think there's different ways to do it in this business,
and everyone can have success and then whatever way they
want you there's got.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
To be more of that.
Speaker 11 (38:55):
Yeah, in the music world before you. This isn't a question.
This is just the bust and fans out there because
we have a lot of the tier ones.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
I wish I.
Speaker 11 (39:04):
Would have said it off the top. Thomas is the
voice on the S and P five hundred. Wit is
so that that's how Thomas fits into the Bust and
lower outside of being Jack and Garrett's longtime friends.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
But yeah, dude, it's that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I forgot about that.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
It was, dude. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
The funny thing is, dude, like it's I've been in
here over the years and every single it's just so
sick to see.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
It's just so sick to see the phases of this place.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
Dude, Like even when I was in here like a
month and a half ago, like none of this renovation
stuff was going.
Speaker 11 (39:35):
Like, well, dude, I think it's cool. They you also
a friend group. It's like a couple of years ago.
I guess when when Josh Dobbs went down there. Obviously
Josh NFL quarterback, he's making vlogs down at your your
your show, your music career is taking off. Jack is
doing his thing in this world, Garrett's doing his thing
in this space, and it's like, but y'all all started,
(39:56):
you know, as the.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Kitchen saying we want to do something difference three am.
We're just drunk. We're just like, you know what, man,
I can't do this anymore.
Speaker 8 (40:04):
And then Big Chevy's coming up next.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Yeah, it's right, dude.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
We're like we're three am in the kitchen every weekend.
We're just like, you know what, we're quitting this week,
we're doing what we want. And then Tuesday rolls around
and just like back to the coal mine, back.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
To the well.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Bring up Josh Dobbs.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, because Tom also has made an appearance on Busting
with the Boys. When Josh came on, Tom came to
the back and who else was it? Was a Josh, yeah, funny,
but just I want this one of my favorite stories
about your football career at Tennessee because you mentioned how
like you didn't play a ton, but there was a
there was a time when you got called.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Up to play versus Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
I like you to just walk all the viewers through
exactly what happened from start to finish.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Let's say it's Friday afternoon and go this story.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
So the biggest thing about college football that you don't
realize is like the people that aren't the starters or
like the fringe guys before the night of the game.
You you just kind of meet the team on Saturday
at the game. So like it's one of the most
like like Walk of Shames ever. It's like the Vall
walk starts and you're just like walking like did you
like merge into.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
The ball wall just hitting there. So yeah, it's like
so Friday night.
Speaker 6 (41:16):
Before the Kentucky game, like I'm not traveling with the team,
and two years of my career I was a second
string like contributor.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
You know.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
I downplay that, like I was traveling away games like
if someone went hurt, was got her.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
I went in.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
But that didn't happen off and I often just rode
the bus and ate the steak and went home, you know.
And uh it was it was a home game. We
played Kentucky Man and I had my ex girlfriend at
the time. She had a sorority form all the night before,
and we got absolutely plowed drunk, like thrown out, thrown
out of the She fell down the stairs at this place.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
She fell.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Yeah, I did go she fell down the stuff.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
But it was like it just like you know how
it did like the roorty like world is like so cutthroat.
They're like and they went to the council and they
were like, you have committed public intoxication.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
You would be shamed, you know, I.
Speaker 6 (42:09):
Thought they but like it was just like the talk
of the sorority too. Like so that's and I was,
you know, if I'm an athlete, I'm a little more surefooted.
I probably I probably would have fallen down the stairs.
I was that drunk too. And then I woke up.
You know, we're up all night, you know, got up,
gotta went to bed at four or five in the morning.
We're in college, you know, and with the game is
at like two or three pm. So we got to
be at the Vall Walk at like ten thirty. So
(42:33):
I'm wake up my house and I am so hungover, dude,
and I'm just like a in an absolute pit. Like
I my I have to wear a suit for the
Vall Walk. It's still crumbled up in a ball in
my travel bag just in the corner of my room.
I throw it on wrinkles and all get chastised for
it later, and then grab a can of coat and
two strawberry pop tarts out of my house and then
(42:55):
just go to the go park my car. Then just
merge into the Vall Walk, thinking that I was just
gonna not play the whole day, you know, just having
a good time in that like few hungover state where.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
Everything is like funny. I'm like, this is hilarious, dude.
Speaker 6 (43:09):
So then flashboard of the game, dude, Like I was
smoking those snacks in there, Dude, I was eating like
rice Crispy treats too, Like as soon as I got
to the thing, you know, it's just like it was
just it was not preparing myself. And that we start
beating the shit out of Kentucky and the second half
comes around and like the starters do one drive and
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then out of nowhere, I hear coach Mahoney said, Domas Edwards,
where are you at? And I strap up and I
played the rest of the game. And do you know
who I was blocking? And you know what play? We
just love to run a counter And I was the
right guard and you guess who the opposite defensive end was,
Bud Dupree.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
And they're playing piste.
Speaker 4 (43:57):
They're down, dude.
Speaker 6 (43:58):
And the funniest thing is my roommate now, one of
our best friends, Jack Jones, He was playing right tackle
and uh, Jack's job the whole time was due to
a ceiling hinge, which is where you just take one
step down and you just open your hips up ninety
degrees and make sure nobody comes. You know, it's one
of the best roles on the line when you get
that job. But he every time we encounter three plays
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in a row, and I was I was dying. And
the every time I get back to the huddle, if
Jack just made it worse.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Dude.
Speaker 6 (44:25):
He was just cracking up laughing at me because he
knew everything. He knew what I was doing. That was
the funniest thing. Guys, Like, I was like boasting to
my teammates. I was like, yeah, I went out drug,
wasn't I, you know, And it's just like, but honestly,
I played well. I remember, I remember. I remember, like
in the Monday team meeting, they had like the little
highlights of like plays of the game. And when it's
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a game like that, the majority of the highlights are
just like backup highlights, morale boosters.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
You're like, we love to see your effort here, you know.
I had one of those on the on that dud
Dupree is.
Speaker 11 (44:59):
As like games going on and y'all are starting to
pull away. Is it registering it all in your head?
You might go in or you're just fully enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Fully enjoy because at this point I have the shoulder
pads on, dude, this game.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
Helmet on the pitch.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
I was.
Speaker 6 (45:12):
I was civilian level, stretched to go play, like hadn't
warmed up since I half ass did the warm up
at the beginning of the game an hour and a
half earlier, Like no little little leg kicks on the sideline.
I just ran in. And then there's so many times
like that. Another time we played Kentucky away and uh uh,
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like we were winning again, and then we always beat Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
Uh the uh, little brother, the uh.
Speaker 6 (45:40):
We're winning by a lot, and our line coach says,
all right, these are the next five linemen that are
going in. Names five people. I'm not one of them,
so I'm all right, sweet, but you know, perfect freak
Krogerfield's nice time. It's a nice time of year, you know,
to smash the football. You know, see if my buddies
can get it done, you know. So then they're they're
they're in the huddle, they're about to go out on
the field, and then all of a sudden, I hear
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coach Jones going do headwords and just screaming, dude, it's
silent in there, Like people in the crowd are like,
what's going on with who is?
Speaker 4 (46:11):
Like? You must be really needed at this game. And
he just looks at your grids by helmet and he goes,
do you even want to fucking play? Do you even
want to play?
Speaker 6 (46:20):
Even after the line coach, deliberately five minutes prior to that,
was like, here are the five people that are going in.
But it's just so funny, man that It's there's never
like that when you go in when you're winning a
lot in the game. It's never You're never prepared to go,
even if you think you are, because you're standing around
just looking.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
You know.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
It's one of my favorite stories.
Speaker 7 (46:40):
Just off a can of Coca Cola and two pop
tarts a couple.
Speaker 6 (46:45):
Yeah, we're lifting the veil here on the back of
the bus.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yeah dude, Well, I guess now we're talking to some
snacks unless you have another football question because I want to.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
I want to start a new segment. We we did it.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
We won't the guests because we have someone next week
as well. Now, but Tom is, I know you're a
sandwich connoisseur. Oh man, I would like you to describe
your perfect sandwich.
Speaker 6 (47:12):
Let's just get a really two second moment of silence
for how great sandwiches are.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Take that hat off.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
Also, thank you.
Speaker 11 (47:22):
I did see your I did see your post. Yeah,
so feel free to talk about that.
Speaker 6 (47:27):
Yeah, man, I think sandwiches, Man, I think they're the
most important part of American culture, really worldwide culture.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
I think, you know.
Speaker 6 (47:33):
I just I'm not well versed as some of the
worldwide sandwich impact. It's not an issue I'm willing to
lend my voice to, but here locally in America, I love.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
A good sandwich.
Speaker 13 (47:44):
Man.
Speaker 6 (47:44):
I think they're they're situational though, Man, I think the
cool thing is though they're so interchangeable. Every element of
them can be replaced and removed. It's like a what's
it called. It's like a It's like a Lego set.
You know, that's the wrong analogy. I was looking for it.
But like, you know, you buy them Millennium foul and
Lego set, you can rearrange it and make it look
like something else.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
That's what a sandwich is, you know, Like.
Speaker 6 (48:04):
If you're like, there's different ways to eat sandwiches and
places to eat sandwiches.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
I had.
Speaker 6 (48:08):
I had a pub sub yesterday. I get one a week.
They usually get the special, but I mean, I just
think it's just a great especially like the the To me,
it's all about the experience. I love going to talk
to the person that's slicing open the bread. I get
to look at the meat selection and go, it looks
like you guys just cut that today.
Speaker 4 (48:25):
Let's put that on there.
Speaker 6 (48:26):
And then the cheat you know, all the way down
and in pub publics really gets that done for me,
you know, in the in the sandwich world. But I
just think there are unsung heroes.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
Man.
Speaker 6 (48:34):
I mean everything's a sandwich, the whole debate, like it's
it's just a deconstructed sandwich.
Speaker 4 (48:39):
We I think.
Speaker 6 (48:42):
They I don't like how people treat them as a
lunch item. I think that's slanderous for the value they provide.
But I mean there's I could talk forever about them.
I mean the the white bread sandwich on the beach,
you know.
Speaker 4 (48:55):
The y'all y'all, the collective like we're hurt. Yeah, it's right.
Speaker 6 (49:02):
Yeah, I know that that's a situational sandwich. But if
I'm in a if I'm in a bodega in New York,
like I'm getting a different sandwich there, man, Like there,
the sandwich is less about the food, and it's more
about glorifying the situation that you're in.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
And it's like the movie Soul.
Speaker 6 (49:15):
It's it's it's honestly, it's it's like a paper air plane.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
It's an art form.
Speaker 10 (49:26):
Man.
Speaker 6 (49:27):
I love sandwiches, man, I'll talk forever about them. I
go to publics once a week. Last night I went
to publics and the I was my heart was ripped
out from underneath me because they made the special a
rap and the specials don't need to be a rap.
I mean like they're the fact that it's like advertises
five dollars to the options.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
Yeah, I mean there used to be two specials.
Speaker 6 (49:47):
But also they kind of go crazy with like they've
been doing like these cranberry turkey sandwiches at publics.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
You're crazy, dude.
Speaker 7 (49:55):
It's like stuffing and well.
Speaker 6 (49:59):
Yeah, it's they do it a year round. It's crazy
as hell, dude. I love sandwiches, man, I think they
don't get enough love.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Can you name your favorite sandwich spot in Nashville and
or a few outside of Public's.
Speaker 6 (50:11):
Yeah, well, I mean, like I said, man, I think
it's all I eat like a dog man, just all
for fuel and get pub chicken chickens in her pumps ups.
But I like, uh, you introduced me to the fat
belly pretzels.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Special Place vibes all time in there too. You can
have a situation. It's like when you go in there,
you're not just buying a sandwich. It's an experience and the.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
Yeah, it's like it's incredible.
Speaker 13 (50:34):
They ask your name and they're like, how you been doing?
Speaker 4 (50:38):
Man, I'm like, how much time you got, dude?
Speaker 6 (50:41):
I got so much shit to go off my chest,
you know, but they'll kick you out after a while.
Now I go in there like their Muffleoto, it's really good.
They also have a good uh. Also the Rachel Green
from Bills is great.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (50:56):
You know, we finally formalize the placing chips of onto
the sandwich as a menu item.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
You know. I think that was a huge step for
us as people.
Speaker 3 (51:04):
What about the little hats truffle in hand?
Speaker 4 (51:07):
I haven't. I've never been to a little hat.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
I could see little Hats being somewhere. Thomas just publicly slandered.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (51:15):
I also have a huge problem with restaurants in Nashville
that open up two hundred person dining halls and have
six parking spots. Yeah, so I refused to go there.
I mean, like that's like part of the experience. We're
not in Manhattan. We open restaurants in here like it's
the Big Apple, you know, but like people are driving
to get there, you know, and if you take a
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scooter you're gonna get hit by somebody too soon.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
We were literally had a federal like a month ago,
and Tom drives there and he goes, there's no fucking parking.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
I'm driving home. I did, f'm home, didn't didn't see him.
Speaker 5 (51:50):
It is awesome. I did that same thing.
Speaker 6 (51:53):
I'm about that dude, Like, I mean, like, what do
you what do you mean? There's no parking here? This
is I could have a hundred people, you know, there's marking,
just parking.
Speaker 4 (52:02):
The the PA pay twenty dollars to.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
Brook lives there. I parked there all the time and
don't have to see.
Speaker 4 (52:08):
But like that's tribal knowledge. We shouldn't have to operate like.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
That is fair.
Speaker 5 (52:15):
What's your death row? Uh sandwich?
Speaker 8 (52:19):
Like sandwich to save the world, you gotta make it.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
Yes, Well, sandwiches aren't saving it.
Speaker 7 (52:23):
If aliens came down and you had one sandwich to
say in the world quotgraphing.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
What if they could do graph What if you can
give a sandwich to the fucking president of Iran right
now and it's stop things be a fucking season.
Speaker 8 (52:36):
I wouldn't do that because sandwiches are made for that.
Speaker 4 (52:38):
Jackar.
Speaker 6 (52:41):
It's a bad Yeah, it's probably not what we need
to do here. Uh death row sandwich. I'm definitely gonna go.
I'm gonna get the ladies that work at the public's
in East Nashville. I love them so much. They're they
they take their job so seriously. They're they asked me
how I'm doing all the time. They they're heavy handed
on their poor ranch and mayonnaise and spicy mustard and
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every casoning out the gourmet Dejiona's. I would get them
to prepare it, and I would ask them to bring
the little heater that they used there, because I swear
that one just.
Speaker 4 (53:11):
Gets it right. And if the jail would allow.
Speaker 6 (53:13):
These three lovely women to come in, I would go
with that public sandwich, just because not necessarily the sandwich,
it's just about the memories I had with those people
as they made it.
Speaker 4 (53:23):
What it's irrelative three, I mean, I love it's kind
of like paper airplane.
Speaker 6 (53:34):
The I I'll probably get a boars head Italian or
bars Haad ultimate sorry, because I like the rope. I
like the roast beef in there too. And then I'm
throwing chipotle Gouda cheese. If it's if it's freshly cut,
I can tell just about how it's how it looks. Yeah,
the hold one slice up for me, please. You got
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to notice the bend. That's how long it's been cut.
If it's floppy, it's good.
Speaker 4 (53:59):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (53:59):
Then I'm going so I'm going ultimate chipoli gouda cheese,
and then I'm gonna get it toasted. Actually, mayonnaisees mayonnaise,
a spicy mustard comes first on the sandwich. I can
pre toast. I used to be a hater on that,
but it makes a difference. Then I throw it, throw
it in the toaster. Then I'll go and spinach, lettuce,
two tomato slices, garlic pickles, French onion straws, and a
little dash salt, pepper and oregano, and then some deli dressing.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
But that's you know, that's if I had to pick.
Speaker 8 (54:28):
It's not really about that for me.
Speaker 9 (54:30):
Twist my arm, God, God forbid. After all this talk,
I feel like it would be essentil as a bonus
intern project if we had them go get the Thomas, yes,
or go with Thomas.
Speaker 6 (54:44):
Yeah, it's right and it for sure, dude. And and
today it's Wednesday. They just can't I can't date the episode. Sorry,
bad form.
Speaker 4 (54:50):
The Uh.
Speaker 6 (54:52):
It's a day of the week and the specials reset today,
so we can we can go check we can we
can check up there, right of their wrongs about putting
a rap as this.
Speaker 5 (55:02):
Where did they do?
Speaker 12 (55:03):
Are you hellbent on going to the one in the
east or would you go to the one on eighth?
Speaker 6 (55:06):
No, you gotta go to the one in the east,
Like I went to one in Brentwood, and there's just
high school kids working there and they don't give a
ship about you or your sandwich.
Speaker 4 (55:12):
They're just they're just trying to get out of there.
Speaker 5 (55:13):
And Thomas, I had a problem with driving places. It's
going to go across the street. Can just imagine a
sixteen year old? Have you hold up the gudda?
Speaker 4 (55:22):
What that sucks? Bro? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (55:26):
Was in the chat for this guy?
Speaker 6 (55:32):
Yeah, trying to get you got on b chat.
Speaker 7 (55:41):
Alright, we've gone for fifty five minutes so far. Do
we need to talk about the reason Thomas is here?
Speaker 4 (55:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (55:48):
Oh yeah, Oh I'm here because I'm beginning the journey
of releasing music with my record deal and starting next month.
Speaker 4 (55:54):
Man, let's go, thank you, thank you, thank you. We're
starting with a song called Drunkenough.
Speaker 6 (56:01):
It's it's such a fun song, dude, It's I'm talking
half the song. It's I kind of it reminds me
of like a shell. Silverstein poem just like poorly written
because I wrote it, you know. But uh, you know,
I wanted to capture something that capture my personality.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
Man.
Speaker 6 (56:15):
I think I've written a lot of songs that are,
you know, good songs, but it's just like, once you
push the ship off the shore, you want to people
to know what they're getting into.
Speaker 4 (56:22):
So I wanted to make sure that I had, you.
Speaker 6 (56:25):
Know, some some things that highlight my voice and things
that highlight my personality and and just and welcome people
to the world of Thomas that releases music because it's
been you know, the two year, year and a half,
two years since I released something, and now it's you know,
the funny thing, I said this the other day, I
was like, I'm so, I'm the most excited I've ever
been to release music. And I said, uh, like, you know,
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when we released the last things, I had no clue
what was going on. Now I still have no clue
what was going on. But I'm okay with it, you know, Like,
and I think that's that's the only thing that's going
to be And that's, uh, that's kind of true for everything. Man,
let it fly, throw the paper airplane, man. And I
think That's one of the regrets that I already have
in my life is I should have been letting them
fly earlier.
Speaker 11 (57:06):
You know.
Speaker 6 (57:06):
I made a much paper airplanes and sat them in
my closet, and I realized I did't even throw them because
I didn't even care that much, you know, And you
gotta throw them. And this is where I'm starting to
throw them. So the Drunk Enough is just a fun
song about Uh, it's really about a girl.
Speaker 12 (57:21):
Man.
Speaker 6 (57:21):
It's a personal story, an actual story in my life.
But you had to listen to the song, man, It's
it's it's got some layers to it. Man, it's maybe
you have to listen to it five times.
Speaker 5 (57:32):
Hopefully the hopefully they do listen to it.
Speaker 4 (57:36):
I'm the king of the callback, man. I understand comedy.
I get it. I get it, y'all.
Speaker 6 (57:42):
But yeah, it comes out next month and then we're
going to start to release. We just cut some more
more songs after that. So after that one, we're gonna
be releasing and then going back in to cut a
whole record, probably to get it get it out there
sometime in the future.
Speaker 4 (57:53):
I don't know when. That timetable is, probably this year sometime,
but We're off to the races.
Speaker 3 (57:58):
Man.
Speaker 6 (57:58):
They gave me the keys and they're let me drive
the ship. And we're making a lot of great music
and doing it treating people right along the way. And
that's what we plan on doing the whole time. And
I'm stoked to stoke to share with the world. So
people don't think I'm crazy in lying anymore.
Speaker 4 (58:12):
You know, over there, let me drive the boat.
Speaker 2 (58:16):
I know you, I know you got a bunch of
dates lined up here in the future outside of Nashville.
Is there any place in Nashville, you know, in the
next six months or so that any you know, tier
ones that are locked out?
Speaker 5 (58:26):
Oh yeah, address the back of the bus view party.
Speaker 6 (58:29):
Yeah, absolutely, dude, I think, uh you know, now you
live with?
Speaker 4 (58:33):
Where do I live?
Speaker 1 (58:33):
Yeah, exact.
Speaker 6 (58:34):
My address is sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, d C.
I'm the next president. How do you just stop these
politically charged statements?
Speaker 3 (58:46):
Other president?
Speaker 2 (58:49):
Now?
Speaker 6 (58:49):
I live at East Nashville though, Man, I've been there
for a couple of years, four or five years been written.
Speaker 4 (58:54):
Just burning money.
Speaker 6 (58:55):
It's fun, man, It's like the episode of SpongeBob to
make the pretty patties.
Speaker 4 (58:59):
You know what? I'm talking about. Mister Crabs is like,
what do you guys, what.
Speaker 6 (59:02):
Are you guys doing with all the money, And he
goes like, well, at first we tried burying it, then
we tried burning it, and then we just had too much,
so we just started giving it away. You know, you
don't even know why I brought that up, but I
love in East Nashville.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
Oh, is there a place there, a time where we
can come catch you out a show?
Speaker 6 (59:20):
Not around here as of now, but probably as this
first song comes out late July, I'll do a showcase.
Speaker 4 (59:26):
Yeah, to kind of get those the guys that.
Speaker 6 (59:28):
Have been playing with me in the band to do
a show here and then that, but that'll probably be
end of the summer, I would think.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
Cool. We'll definitely, we'll post on the social pages all
n let's go, and then we'll obviously collab on the
bus and account get that five hundred thousand plus audience.
But yeah, we're gonna get everyone everyone here on the
back of the bus.
Speaker 1 (59:48):
As long as everyone's in town.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
We're gonna show out. Oh no, they won't be invited
to the show.
Speaker 4 (59:53):
Yeah that's right, you heard that, but dude.
Speaker 2 (59:56):
No, seriously, so fucking awesome, just like to know you's
the best friend and then like see our success and
to get you to come on to like our like
little funny show that we started.
Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
And I feel like we're starting to get a groove too, like.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Specifically in this show, which is fun, and this episode
I feel like is a lot of confidence for everyone
where it's like we've been kind of bouncing off.
Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Coop's been talking the whole time, Like.
Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
I will say, I've been I've been in spectator mode
for this whole day.
Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
But this has been an awesome.
Speaker 8 (01:00:22):
Interview for another episode.
Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
I know one day.
Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
Coople just go. I just around.
Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
I was fired up the whole time.
Speaker 6 (01:00:34):
Yeah, manot it's it's I love being here. Man, It's
awesome to see y'all. Y'all's journey. Man, I've always I've
told you two years drink in a kitchen, like when
you're gonna get on the other side of the camera, dude,
like you're too funny to you're too funny to not
let people know that you're funny man, and both of y'all,
I mean I think it Also it's ten thousand hours though,
like think about the think about where you are now,
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to start this show versus where if you started it
four years ago. Oh, like you guys like know when
things to screw up here, man, dude, we understand that.
We understand the health implications of standing on hard Dawn Creek.
Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Would you probably don't want to play your new song
wait till that releases. Would you want to play one
song for the audience and taste? Hey in turns, Yeah,
we're gonna bring it up because we let's get that
tape job too.
Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 7 (01:01:24):
While he's tuning the guitar, we have an intro for
Busting with the boys. We need an intro for this show.
Back of the bush, I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 7 (01:01:42):
That's That's what I was getting at.
Speaker 5 (01:01:45):
It could literally be fifteen second jingle.
Speaker 11 (01:01:49):
Oh yeah, well, I mean that was one of the
best callbacks.
Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
Let do some some source. I gotta see what you
guys are about a little better. I mean, you're good.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:01:57):
Your your your presence, Yeah, you are good.
Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
Welcome to the back of the books. I wrote this
song a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 6 (01:02:08):
It's uh, this is so awesome. This is gonna be
a good no this is gonna be an awesome clip
of us like this.
Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (01:02:17):
I wrote the song a couple of weeks ago by Buddy,
Bob Dapiro and Ryan Uh. A lot of people when
you get to a certain point of music, they just
try to ask you to change everything that got you there.
And that's what I'm saying about being different.
Speaker 13 (01:02:29):
You know.
Speaker 6 (01:02:29):
So we wrote a song about people trying to change me,
even though it's worked the ship that I've been doing.
Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
You know, I don't know if we have all the
mics here, that might not.
Speaker 8 (01:02:37):
Sound like that.
Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Yeah, I mean so we maybe even turned down all
the mics.
Speaker 7 (01:02:42):
But let's just quiet, be quiet, damon home, h here
we go.
Speaker 13 (01:03:05):
There ain't no changing me no more until I find
the change I was looking for. Don't matter what comes
through that door, there ain't no changing me no more.
(01:03:28):
I met a girl, thought that she was golden until
she told me to fold the hand dyes holding. Those
were the last words that were spoken to me. Why
should I fix what is not broken? Ain't no changing
(01:03:52):
me no more till I find the change I was
looking for. Don't matter what comes through that door, ain't
no changing me no more.
Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
A music guy told me to change and stuff about
me too. A big wig told me how I could see.
Speaker 6 (01:04:23):
He said, first we gotta fix a couple things.
Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
My hair and my beard. I dress too weird.
Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
I need some.
Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
Show biz clothes.
Speaker 13 (01:04:35):
And I said, sorry, body, that's not how this story goes.
Ain't no changing me no more until I find the
change I was looking for. Don't matter what comes through
that door, cause there ain't no changing me, no move.
Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
That was really cool.
Speaker 8 (01:05:10):
These mics are not autotude either.
Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
That was all real. It's all autotune. Everything is processed
and fake. It's all.
Speaker 11 (01:05:24):
Edit.
Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
When I start talking after.
Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
We were starting with our guests, they do our outro.
So if you want to play a little little lick
and then be like, you know, sub to the channels,
sub to whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Uh yeah, just let them fly.
Speaker 5 (01:05:43):
Thanks for coming on back of the bus.
Speaker 6 (01:05:47):
Hello everyone, I'm Thomas Edwards yesterday on the back of
the bus. Thank you all for joining us. Like the video,
subscribe to the channel, love each other, tip your waitresses,
shred the.
Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Veil, throw the paper airplane.
Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
Throw the paper airplane. What's soup? That was sick?
Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
That was awesome, awesome,