Best of the Bus: Christian McCaffrey Talks 49ers Trade, NFC Title Game & Life with an NFL Dad

Recorded: February 7, 2023 | On this episode of Best of the Bus, we’re throwing it back to when Christian McCaffrey joined the boys out in Arizona.

CMC talks about how he became a fan of the pod, the process of getting traded from the Panthers to the 49ers, and what could’ve been in the NFC Championship.

He also dives into his childhood, growing up with an NFL dad and the wild stuff he made them do.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fellas.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Thank you for tuning in to our Best of the
Bus series, where we drop a best of the Bus
or a best of episode every Saturday, where we throw
it back to an old fun interview that we had
just to throw it at the top of our at
the top of our rollerdex here on Spotify, Apple, Google Play,
wherever you're getting your audio podcast right now, and today
we're throwing it back to when Christian McCaffrey joined the

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Boys at Super Bowl fifty seven. He talks about becoming
a fan of the pod, the trade from the Panthers
to the Niners, and what went down in the NFC Championship.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Game that year.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
We also get into his childhood with him having an
NFL dad ed McCaffrey shout out. Shout out at McCaffrey, dude,
and the wild stuff he made him do. There's an
IV story in there that's a lot of fun. What
his dad did not allow on the football field at
a young age.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
This was a fun one.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Boys. Enjoy it. Big hugs, tiny kisses, lads. John, Welcome
to another episode of Busting with the Boys. Hope, the
Great White Hope has arrived. Welcome Christian. We're at the
Contant House in Arizona. Christian walks down the stairs, dude,
and the first thing he hears is Burt Kreischer asking
who Shane would rather fuck me or you? And Shane

(01:09):
said to you and that hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, I saw it.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
I saw he saw the hurt of my face.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, yeah, what what was your first impression of that
wed entrance to walk into I was hurt for you,
thank you, but definitely it wasn't wasn't too shocked.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
I'm a fan of both those guys, so I figured
something like that would be what happen.

Speaker 6 (01:27):
Yeah, I walked through the boys normal commercady and then
when we finished, you were all about what's up? I
was gonna say it wouldn't say your day when we
when we finished the episode, Like, you're a big Shane
Gillis fan.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
Huh huge, huge. I've seen the Austin stand up like
fifteen times, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
It is so fucking funny.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
It gets funnier the more you watch it, keep catching
on to something you didn't know he is.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
It's the awkward. It's the awkward, like shoulders struck the best,
some tough, hard nose, run it down your throats in
a clouded dust. Yeah, dude, he's so funny. He played football.
He played football, did he really? Yeah, at some like
Naval Academy right west Point, west Point quick he did it. Yeah,
like three weeks He's like another, I can't, I can't
do this anymore, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude he is.

(02:15):
He's fucking awesome. It's always great. It's always great having
them on, man.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
But thanks for coming on though, bro.

Speaker 7 (02:19):
Like I feel like we've been connected for a little
bit because like we've seen you rock the merch. We've
started following each other and I'm just thinking, Yo, the fucking.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
The boy yea so great, hope.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, he's following like that's fucking sick. Yeah, how'd you
get onto the how'd you get on the bus?

Speaker 5 (02:36):
And I'm a fan of the POD for a lot
of reasons. Some of the guys in the locker room,
you guys haven't talked about POD in the locker room,
but uh.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
No.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
But I'm a fan of the POD for a lot
of reasons. I think there's not a lot of you know,
when people think of NFL players, it's always you know,
this stardom individual you know, it gets a lot of
individual attention not kind of understanding the dynamic of the
locker room. And you have two guys who are on
different spectrums and different journeys of a football team who

(03:12):
came together in a pod, and a lot of your guys'
podcasts are just it's the locker room. And so for me,
it's like, oh my god, that's like I'm sitting in
the car and the off season throwing on a pod
as I'm in.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
The locker room. Locker room with the boys.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
Feel that, and so I feel like a lot of
other people they they're you know, I don't know if
they know that, but subconsciously they're like, damn, that's probably
what goes on in the locker room.

Speaker 8 (03:32):
Yeah, I'm a fan. I really am a fan. I
like the pod a lot.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Dude. I'm so happy you said that, because that's literally
like our whole goal is. Like everyone who you when
you're playing in the league, like when you first get
in the lead, there's those year ten guys and they
like leave and they come back and you always ask them, hey,
what do you miss And everybody says, there's a couple
of answers, but everyone always says they missed the boys.
They missed the locker room, and like, as you get older,
you kind of fear that. So when Will and I

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started this like that, we wanted that to be the vibe.
We wanted to be the vibe where people are sitting down,
we're asking the same dumb questions Kobe or Lebron or
Michael we're asking. First time he jerked off like just
crazy like conversations about the Lebron question. Yeah, but you know,
that's always a question, and it's always a question. The
locker was the first thing came to my It's a
popular question. I don't think we have talked about that,

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but it is, like, it's fucking awesome, dude, and it's
great to know that, like the forty nine or something,
they roll with the.

Speaker 8 (04:21):
Boys, it's the best. It's a good locker room.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Kittle kind of steam had that, Yeah, I would say.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
So, you know, for for me personally, I came in
the middle of the year not knowing what was going on.
You know, I didn't know I knew people, but didn't
know people, which was a weird experience.

Speaker 8 (04:37):
But you can just tell.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
I think there was twenty two guys from the Super
Bowl team a few years ago, who are still on
the team. So they they'd set a culture and a
standard that had been there for a while, and you know,
I was just pumped up to join them.

Speaker 7 (04:50):
What was it like getting traded? It was you You're
the friend. You're like the face of the Panthers, like.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
The fun when we would play you guys, they'd be like,
if you stop this guy, we have a chance to win.

Speaker 7 (05:01):
He's gonna touch the ball three times a game. First
overall draft pick for me Fantasy Football. Thank you for
Holden's true I was like, Okay, he's had a couple
of jurry bugs last couple years. This is he's gonna
get it right this year.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (05:11):
Yeah, take us through that trade, bro, because that's I mean,
that was a massive headline.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
It was it was.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
Inn you know, you hear about it, but you never
I don't know. For me, I never thought i'd get traded.
I thought I was a Panther forever. I'm like, I
bought a house there, this is home, and I'd heard
the rumors in the offseason, so I you know, obviously
I called the GM. I'm like, hey, man, just you know,
I just need to hear it from you. Any any truth,
and he was super honest. He's like, look, absolutely not.

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We don't want to do this, you know, but we'll
listen to everything. And that's that's fair. I'm like, sounds good.
Just let me know. But I went into the season, man,
I'm like, look, I'm all in. It is what it is.
I I legitimately forgot about that, thinking I'm on the
team I play. And I think it was four or
five games and the rumors had continued to gone and
coach rule got fired. We had lost a few games

(05:57):
in a row, and I figured, like, if this was
going to happen, this is how it happens.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
And you're anticipated it a little bit.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
I didn't, maybe subconsciously, but I never I never addressed it,
you know, openly. And so, uh, we played La, we
played the Rams. It was a first game with Coach Wilkes,
and we lost. I had a pretty good game, though,
and I just remember my agent saying it could happen
this week, but I don't think so. And so early
in the week it was you know, I don't think
this is happening. And then the week kept going and

(06:28):
going and there was more of a chance and I
was just like, look, if it's going to happen, make
a house preparing for Tampa. So for you know, anyone
who doesn't know what it's like to get traded in
the middle of a week. You know, I'm in practice
in meetings Wednesday, treatment practice and meetings Thursday, treatment eleven
thirty pm. I get a call trading me to the Niners. YadA, YadA,
seven am. Flight didn't say by to one person. Practice

(06:50):
with the Niners Friday. Try to scramble together, you know,
a few plays in a little package. Go play the
Chiefs on Sunday for the Niners. And then from there
you just so.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
You when when you call the GM you obviously there's
a bit of an anxiety. And then when you after
you play the Rams, your agents like, hey, probably won't happen,
but it could happen this week. How does that like
affect you during the season leading up to that point,
because obviously everyone's always all in, Like the guys who
really care about football, they're gonna be all in for
their team, but there's gonna be some sort of level

(07:20):
of you got to feel some sort of way knowing
there's a possibility of this team, whether you feel like
they're giving up on you or they want to move
on for whatever reason. Like what was your thought process
like up until getting traded.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
Yeah, I mean it's I think I legitimately blocked it
out for the first four weeks and then like like
you said, like that week where it was like, hey,
this could happen. I mean it's all I thought about.
You know, It's like it was completely in the back
of my head, like consuming the unknown. Yeah, it consumes you,
but you have to do your best. Were I was,
you know, prepping for Tampa. So I just started, you know,

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doing all that and just getting ready to go. And
I figured, hey, don't change a thing, because regardless you're
going to be on a team, whether it's you know,
you get tryed Tuesday or whether you get traded Thursday,
whatever it is. I just didn't want to prolong it.
I wanted to play in every game this year. That
was a you know, big deal to me to be
able to suit up and play in every game, and
so I just wanted it to happen sooner than later.
But uh no, it definitely consumes you. I mean, it's

(08:15):
in the back of your head even in practice. I'm like, dude,
just don't do anything stupid, like who knows what's going
to happen, Like I was warming up for like an
hour just to make sure I'm you know, checking the box.
So yeah, it definitely consumes you a little.

Speaker 7 (08:26):
Then you I was gonna say, as your initial reaction
when you got traded, is it pissed off.

Speaker 8 (08:32):
It's so weird.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
It's a weird deal because there's so many emotions, and
the first emotions probably anger, like man, you guys don't
want me anymore? Like that's really what it is. You know,
you can call it what it is. Well, they got
a lot for you. It's like na, like you're you
think you're better off without me, That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
And uh so you get that.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
So it's you know, you're pissed off, but then you're excited,
but then you're you know, you got two days. So
I just think there's so many emotions that get flooded
at you at once that you're not really able to
address because they give you the playbook as soon as
you get there, and you're like, shit, man, that's all
that's you know, I gotta get going, so you can't
even address it. And I don't even know if I've
completely decompressed yet with the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
But it's like a big breakup and you don't get
any chance after. Yeah, they break up into a next relationship, Yeah, immediately,
not even like the courting process of the other relationship.
I'm healthy to leave this one. I go this one.
Your ex pis your next chick?

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, what the hell is?

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Hey, we're done. But she's gonna be great to me.
She's gonna be fantastic. I hope she's good, and she was.
She was. It had to be a little bit of
like Carolina was going down the dumbs pretty fast. And
then you get traded to the forty nine. Ers are like, hey,
you're pissed at first, and you're like, I'm going to
a good ball club here in.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
A family that obviously is you know you know what though,
and I've this is dead honest truth. I legitimately thought
we could still win because we had a really hard
first part of the schedule, and so there was a
few games in there where we're like a god, like,
you hope you win these games, and you want to
win these games, but you got a new quarterback, you
got a new offense. There's gonna it's gonna come with

(10:04):
some growing pains. Our coordinator just got there, our quarterback
got there in training camp, Like I, I really believe
we could still win. So in the back of my head,
I'm like, you know, we could be one of those
Miami teams who wins nine straight later in the year.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
A couple of years ago.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
I in my head believed that, and and they ended
up doing you know, kind of making.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
A little bit of the man.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
I mean, they got the mix for sure.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
So I I, you know, you any way you could
get into the playoffs.

Speaker 8 (10:28):
It doesn't really matter as long as.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
You get in.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
And so I thought we could and so that that
didn't help. I wasn't like, oh the hell, yeah, I'm
out like that. That that wasn't my mentality after got traded.
I loved Charlotte man and I was a captain on
that team. I love those guys, and uh so, you know,
it came with a lot of mixed emotions.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
So Thursday night, eleven thirty at night, you get traded,
seven am, you're on a flight and then you have
to play a game in forty eight hours essentially, like
what was when you talked to Shanahan and the boys,
like we like, hey, we need these ten plays out
of you during the game, because it was it was
a big surprise to everybody when you'd stepped on the
fields that that Sunday.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
Yeah, I at first I didn't know if I was
gonna play. I don't think they knew if I was
gonna play. And then I think I got there and
and if you know how Shanahan's a wizard man. He
I think he started to put together a little bit
of a red zone package and maybe something like ten
plays here where he's like, you know, maybe we can
use him in a couple different ways and teach him
some base runs, get them some touches. And uh so

(11:24):
I had I was ready for ten to twelve plays.
I ended up playing like twenty. And poor Jimmy, like
he called like eight plays I've never heard. I know,
I couldn't tell you what one thing meant in the play,
like Jimmy, I'm sorry, but you got to tell me
what to do. Jimmy, you know obviously told me what
to do. But yeah, it was it was a different
game week experience.

Speaker 7 (11:44):
I could say that, how was your how was your
transition going to San France?

Speaker 3 (11:47):
It was great, man, it was great.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
I mean, that's as seamless of a transition as I
could have imagined. From the coaches helping me out learning
the plays quick to shit. Brock Purty was walking through
with me on the turf field, you know, after hours,
just to try to, you know, get some reps in
so I could hear the plays. Kiddle and all the
leaders on the team. I mean, you're playing with guys

(12:11):
that are elite at what they do with all over
the locker room. So from them welcome me in. Man,
they felt like family right away. I was so thankful,
you know, because you never know how that's gonna go.
It could be some resentment or something like he was
a new guy, and uh no, they welcome in with
open arms. Everyone was so great and clicked those boys

(12:31):
right away.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, when you first got to stan Frandi, like who
did you gravitate towards early like? Or who I guess
who opened the doors to like a little bit of
a friendship early like boys.

Speaker 8 (12:42):
Kittle was amazing, man.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
He he called me when I got traded the GM
the Panthers called me. He told me getting traded. John
Lynch called me, and then Kittle called me. Did you
know before I'd known Kittle. I you know, hung out
with them for a while, you know, seeing him at
different events here and there. So he was like the
third call, and man, that meant a lot to me.

(13:03):
Obviously he's a leader on that team. And then sharing
the running back room with Kyle Juice check was great,
and that whole running back.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Room was awesome. Man, it's a good room.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
And Elijah Mitchell and just being able to learn from
him and just no egos. No, you know, it was
a it was a seamless transition. But you know, I
saw like Trent Williams in the locker rooms like monster,
I saw man and Fred Warner is a beast, you know, Debo,
you all those guys.

Speaker 9 (13:31):
So they are sad, So they're so close.

Speaker 8 (13:33):
Man, like you can tell they've been through some shit together.

Speaker 9 (13:36):
Yeah you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
So when I stepped in there, I'm like, look, I
just just do your job.

Speaker 8 (13:40):
You don't got to do anything else, but just do
your job.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Knowing that the Panthers were your first was your first organization.

Speaker 7 (13:46):
Going to the San Francisco and seeing how that organization
was ran, was that eye opening between the two different organizations,
Like I know, for me when I went from Washington
to Tennessee. You saw right away, like how differently the
Titans would run stuff compared to compared.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
To Washington, and the same when I went to the
Raiders and everything else.

Speaker 7 (14:01):
Was it similar at all going from Carolina to San Francisco?

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Uh No, it was pretty different in a lot of ways,
not even good or bad, but you just you get
in a routine in one team, or do your practice
schedule with when you get treatment, with when they practice,
when they lift, et cetera. So all that was different.
So I had to kind of adjust mid season all
of that stuff. So as far as the scheduling went,
it was much different. The playbook obviously was much different,

(14:25):
completely new terminology, and but I think you know, for me,
you I adapted pretty quick. And the other good thing
was we played Kansas City, where I chalk it up
to you know, scratch, like you played, but just now
you can get your bearings for a week. And then
we played LA the next week, and then we had
a buy, so I played in really one and a

(14:46):
half games, and then we had a buy where I
could really get used to everything and how things were ran.
But even like your treatment people, you know what I mean?
Like the guys that you see that, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Because you got your guy, Like there's that one guy
in the building was like, this is my dude I'm.

Speaker 5 (14:59):
Working with, Like you know all that you're scrambling to
figure that stuff out. And yeah, there's there's a lot
of differences here and there, but I'd say that was
probably the biggest effect. It's just trying to figure out
the logistics of your schedule throughout the week.

Speaker 7 (15:14):
Yeah, how close are you with the uh like getting
cause your family's with the your the Shanahan family and
your family, you guys.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Are like tight right?

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Is that are you?

Speaker 7 (15:25):
Are you going there feeling kind of like that interpersonal
relationship with Coachanahan or is it kind of like our
families are type of you know, it's.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, it's still different for us.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
I think when you get traded, it's like you really
understand the family, friend or whatever, how much of a
business it is, and you also understand that these guys
just traded a lot for you, So you know, there's
there's no like, hey, what's up man? Good, It's like
all right, dude, like I it's time, like I gotta
I gotta prove you right, and we got a roll
because you know, I mean, my my dad played for

(15:57):
played for Mike Shanahan for a long time, and they're
really close, you know, really close, and Kyle grew up
in that locker room. Kyle grew up one of those games,
the Niners games when Mike was there and the Broncos games.
I'd only met Kyle after a game when we when
we played them, though I didn't, I wasn't like, you know,
I talked.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
To Kyle all the time. That wasn't the case at all.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
And I think, you know, we have a lot of
similarities in a lot of ways, in the sense that
you know, your your dad's kind of grew up. You know,
my dad had three Super Bowl rings and growing up
in Denver, you know, he was a big deal. And
you know, I kind of always you know, I ended
up making a name for myself, but just growing up,
you're in his shadow. And I thought it was the

(16:36):
best thing ever. I mean, me and my pops are
like that, and it was. It was amazing. But you know,
I think Kyle probably feels out a little bit too,
and so it's all business though, And I love Kyle
and I and we you know, we got a good relationship,
but I want to win so bad man, and I
know he does too, So it's it's definitely to the
script and business.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
You guys are so close this year, dude, When when
you got Jimmy and g telling you what to do
in the field and a few weeks later he's out,
Like what was the vibe in the locker room? Because
it seems like it was truly a next man up mentality,
That's what it seemed from me outside looking in. But
do you have a guy who's mister irrelevant, Like you
really have no idea what he's gonna put on the field.
You had no chance to see him in camp or
really in preseason games or anything. So like what was

(17:16):
your thought process? And like what was the vibe of
the boys like the next day?

Speaker 5 (17:21):
And there was a lot of mixed emotions, uh, and
a lot of unknowns. But like I said, I mean
that you got the number one defense and you have
a lot of weapons, and so I don't I don't.
I really don't believe anyone ever blinked. I think it was, hey,
we're gonna have to step up, like there's you know,
and I don't know what that means because I never
understood that because it's like, well, what were you doing before?

(17:42):
Like you know, but like you know what I mean,
just kind of you know, lock in, no, no bullshit, nothing,
and uh but I didn't feel like anybody blinked. And
I and to hear the defense talk about Brock because
those are the guys going against them in scout team
and during training camp they were huge fans. They're like,
oh no, he can ball, and so we're like, all right,
let's let's see what happens. And he went in the

(18:03):
middle of Miami game, he won, and and then you know,
it's kind of history from there. But now it was
impressive what he did. I'll be honest with you, how
do you really impress if the wash room from a
close spectrum.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
How do you feel sitting in this room right now
and not getting ready for the Super Bowl? No, you
were so close.

Speaker 8 (18:19):
It hurts, man, It hurts. It's uh yeah, it hurts.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, it hurts man. But is your dad like the
guy from what was the movie with Booby Miles right
and night lights? So he's like, you see that he
got one of those, got one of those, gets you
one of those? That is your dad kind of put
in your face a little bit, or he's letting a ride.

Speaker 8 (18:38):
I've never seen my dad's rings. He's the couldn't be you.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Got to drive home drug after a game?

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Yeah, he toss out the window. Your stuff going through
the grass. No fucking kicks out the window. Christians all
sat on the field as dad walks up, puts it
on his finger.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
By the way, they asked me the other day, like,
what's one of the best movie scenes of all time?

Speaker 3 (18:58):
That was like in my top.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Three when he's on his knees when he hugs his
dad at the end there when others I mean.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Emotional right now, that is tough. Was the lamp scene?
Anony throws the lamp on the ground.

Speaker 7 (19:11):
I dropped it. He's like, can't hold the lamp, can't
hold on the football.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
I can hold on the football. Get the hell out
of here. I got a funny story about that. Actually,
dug tasers are can you old?

Speaker 1 (19:20):
How about now?

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Can you all do it now? Oh my god, that
poor girl just sitting there watching it all go down
to Tim mc graw's like half naked, Like yeah, yeah, well,
I think.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Your name's like Maurice Marie. You've grown up.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Relaxed. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
So Tim McGrath's daughter went to Stanford, so we got
to know the McGraths a little bit, Me and my
friend group.

Speaker 8 (19:42):
She's an awesome girl, and uh, we had dinner.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
A family friend of ours know them pretty well, so
he invited us over for dinner when we were at Stanford.
Not Tim, our family friend, but the McGrath's him and
Faith Hill we're going and so we're like, all right, cool,
well we'll head over, and the whole way on the
car right, they're like, dude, just don't fucking say any
Friday night lights lines, like don't say like the professional whatever.

(20:05):
Within five minutes, someone drops a fork and my idiot
buddy like like, it's like, don't punch. The president goes,
can't hold on the fork.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Can't hold on dude.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
He was like no, no, and we all just started
and he started laughing too, which was good, but oh
my god, it was anything to it.

Speaker 8 (20:23):
He laughed. He just laughed. He didn't say anything.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
And Jim McGraw is one of those dudes you've seen.
You're like, fuck, that's really Tim McGrath as he ripped out. Dude,
I saw him at uh when I tore my seal
on twenty twenty and they were playing The Ravens and
the Sweet next to me. He was there and someone
like kind of tapped the loss. I kind of get
like one of those, and he like, look, gave me
the head and I was like, we're fucking tight, dude,
We're boys, brother, Yeah, but dude. We were at Losers

(20:46):
in Nashville one time and the owner of Loser's name
is Steve Ford. He comes up. He goes, hey, y'all
want the back. That's fine, but Bob's coming. I'm like,
who's Bob. He's like Kid Rock, Kid Rocks on his way.
So my first thing is where's Will. I go over
to way, like Will good Rock's coming. Don't say any
Joe dirt that's summer too massive, Kid Rock. Yeah, I'm like,

(21:07):
don't say any Joe dirt ship, don't start saying ball
with the bar, any of this stuff. Kid Rock comes in.
We're hanging out. We're literally playing beer pong, and we're
like talking for a little bit. It's me Will and
Kid Rock and we we're talking and there's like a
bit of an awkward silence and we'll just go I
can't stop thinking about Joe dirt lines right now. Oh

(21:30):
my god, brother. Oh, it's tough when you're around those
of cats. Dude, it's tough. You kind of want to
be like, I know you you don't really.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Know them different scenes. Bro, Yeah, it's exactly.

Speaker 8 (21:42):
It's like not man, no, no, you're just you're thinking
of his character.

Speaker 7 (21:46):
So I would actually think is like an asshole who
I wouldn't like before meeting him. Is a Jeoffrey from
Game of Thrones. I think I really have an issue.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
I gotta watch that show. Yeah, the worst person we
will step away from act. That's what I heard. He
quit acting. What a great actor. That has got to
be an act.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Shall we talk about the NFC Championship?

Speaker 3 (22:13):
We don't have to.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
I think we got it.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
I think we got to touch on it.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Don't worry about it, dude, we got to touch We
got to touch on it. Figure, did brock perty fake
that injury? I'm just kidding. I mean it was pretty tough.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
He he tore his UCL I mean he legitimately couldn't throw.

Speaker 8 (22:31):
And our only hope for you know, we still had hope.
Josh came in and we we tie it up. We're
ready to roll.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
And then when Josh went down, it's like, you know,
it's panic mode, but you never know. Defense picked six
special teams touchdown, you know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
But I don't know if they knew.

Speaker 5 (22:49):
How hurt Brock was, so just having Brock out there,
there was still the threat of like, oh, maybe maybe
they shot him up and he's good to go, like
who knows, right, And he threw a couple of screen passes,
but I mean that's a serios injuries, just yeah, serious
injury for him to come back in the game and
you know, try to at least throw dog.

Speaker 9 (23:06):
Yeah no, uh no, he didn't fake it.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Because I didn't get to see the game. But you
were saying they were just like you were just running
the ball after at.

Speaker 7 (23:13):
Least, like, yeah, they might not know what's going on,
but after a few plays, you're gonna realize, like, let's
just stack the box until they do throw and show
that they can try and go up top. So after that,
like as you guys are doing running playfter running platter,
running patter, running pla after fucking running play going into
the fourth quarter, and then it's not like nobody's like
the clock's not stopping.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
You guys are just running the football.

Speaker 7 (23:33):
I'm sitting there, like, will at least try to fucking
at least try to throw the fall like you throw
it into the fucking stands.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
I'm like, hell yeah, let it fucking rip, brother.

Speaker 8 (23:41):
It was one of the worst.

Speaker 7 (23:44):
Why continue to just run the ball?

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Is there a sense of frustration?

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Like like him and Debo and draw up on the
saddle like.

Speaker 7 (23:52):
Hey, hey, George, I'm about to just say, look at me,
I'm gonna throw this ball to you.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
Yeah, in theory, like that's that sounds really good. I
just I just feel like I couldn't call play like
I I know the running back position and in some
Z plays, but like calling a play and knowing what
people are.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Doing, you could draw it up all you want.

Speaker 5 (24:09):
We drew up that that double reverse, and you know
it was the one time I think they go to
shell now and then I you know, Kittle's double covered
and he's our only guy, and so I just I
threw it's absolutely nobody.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
But I love that you just let it rip it
throw the football.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
I almost got grounding, which would have been like, oh yeah,
never mind, We're not throwing the football. But but no,
it's uh, I think at that point, man, you're you're
hoping for you know, we did a couple of double
reverses and we were still running the ball efficiently. It's
not like we were zero yards. And I don't know,
I wish I'm not a coach. I I don't know

(24:45):
what I would have done. I don't think I've ever
seen that. The only time I've ever seen no quarterbacks
to be able to play was the Broncos COVID Deal.

Speaker 8 (24:54):
Peace squad receiver they got to be by like forty five.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, that was a tough That was a tough though,
let alone and you know, not having a quarterback for
two and a half in the NFC Championship. But I'm
you know, and they they're the ones that hurt them.
So it's not like, you know, you can't say it's
not fair. You know, they play good ball, it's a
good team.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
But yeah, what a tough fucking spot to be in.
And I get it.

Speaker 7 (25:13):
It's like in theory that sounds nice and it's like,
I know, like I'm saying then kind of you're trying
to get you to speak on something where it's like
I mean, I'm not you're not a coach, you're not
doing all that stuff. You're not trying to draw it up.
But I'm just thinking, NFC Championship, there's truly nothing to
fucking lose at what at all, whatsoever. So it's like
you're just out there, Hey, I'm gonna fucking go five
yards and go out just to simplify for somebody trying

(25:34):
to throw the rock like Kyle be A be a quarterback,
so Christian could maybe still run the football.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
But that's what I'm still there thinking.

Speaker 7 (25:41):
I'm like, man, at least at least show that you
might just throw the ball at some point.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
That's what I was saying. You know, I'm pissed off
you on TV. I bet on you guys. I'm fucking
I'm pissed off. If there wasn't gonna be a quarterback,
who do you think it would be have to step in? Ye, man,
taking away the fact that it's the NFC Championship, that'd
be cool, Like if you're in the middle of six.
In the back of my mind, I won't lie.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
I'm like, look, dude, if I get the ball, I'm
ripping it like yeah, yeah, brother.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
They call like some you know whatever the top off,
we shouldn't have done.

Speaker 7 (26:15):
Yeah, but if it's in the middle of the season,
you you do, like you run the ball, you get
out of the game, and it's like, well, fuck, we
didn't have a quarterback. But it's like the game before
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, but you guys are thinking about the negative, Like
imagine if you were the play quarterback and was throwing
dimes all of a sudden.

Speaker 8 (26:31):
Yeah or yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (26:33):
All that quarterback stuff's tough, Like forget throwing the ball,
like calling the play in the huddle, like they're still
giving me ship because I called one play on the wristband.
It was a double reverse pass and like the whole game,
it was so loud, and so the quarterbacks in there
just screaming, like we had to have a guy taking
a knee in the middle so.

Speaker 8 (26:50):
We could shorten up the circle just sweetly.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
Bro and uh, and so I'm like, damn, I gotta
yell this play call. I mean, while the play calls,
it's that that long and uh, I'm screaming the play
and George is like, dude, like.

Speaker 8 (27:06):
It was the one time it was quiet.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
So like the whole defense is like that we can
hear you like, I'm like, oh shit, so quiet my
voice down for a little bit.

Speaker 8 (27:15):
But now calling the play in the huddle is more.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Difficult than people's make What about turbo package? Why not
go into your You guys have like some on the
ball stuff. You have like one one word and that's
what you're gonna call and that's it.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
Yeah, we yeah, we have that. We but I don't know.
I don't know the quarterback trbo package. Juice might but
there you go, put juice in. There's so many like
there's so many what ifs, man, and like you should
have done It's like, but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
It just it just sucked absolutely, I mean from the
perspective opening wounds and then joking way and I know
you're allowed to carry three quarterbacks, like I meant.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
I had a comment earlier this week in the media
where I was like, I wish they changed that rule
and people are like, well, you can change you can
carry three quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
I'm like, I know that.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
I just mean, you have fifty three guys active, but
only how many suit up forty forty.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Eight forty six shoot up forty eight can suit up now,
but you have to but you have to suit up
an extra offensive lineman. Almighty first seven. My whole point
I was like, I know that.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
I just wish one of those extra active players could
be a third quarterback because nobody wants to watch that.
That's not no like, it's it sucks for us, it
sucks for fans, it sucks for everything.

Speaker 8 (28:22):
You're like, dude, this is there's so you know, people's lives.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
It's and look I'm bitter and then the wounds are
still fresh and I'm pissed off, and I get it.
I'll get over it. But that was just my initial
angry thoughts post game.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Dude, the hockey's got a rule, not necessarily a rule,
but there are literally guys in the stands that are goalies,
and they're like, like, there's two goalies that shoot up.
If both those goalies get hurt, that guy will literally
go down the locker room, suit up and go play goalie.
That while yeah, that would.

Speaker 7 (28:49):
Be nice if you were able to do that, because
it does like and I know we're sitting here talking like,
oh we should have could It's like this, the chances
are nine nine percent chance you're still.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Going to lose the game.

Speaker 7 (28:57):
Whoa well, I mean the way you was getting out
of hand, it's just like they had.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
A quarter left to make something happen.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah, what you're saying, you're not saying even with Brock.

Speaker 7 (29:07):
And you're saying, like, oh, if you was, if he
would have acted as the quarterback into the bar, and
that means they would have won the game. It's like,
you know, you're kind of just like, well, everyone knows
it's pretty much gonna be over with.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, but I thought you were saying if Brock played
the entire game, Oh no, no, no, no, okay, just
when that game you really think so, you really think so?

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (29:27):
You no, there there Those are both the two best
put together teams in the NFL. They were really they
were good.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
Man.

Speaker 8 (29:38):
I thought they're a good team.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
You know.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
You go into every game confident, and that's one thing
about Kyle, like he gets you to get you know,
with his game plans and stuff. You're like, oh, damn,
I'm excited for this game, you know, and and who
knows what would have happened. I just think, man, like
I just wish it didn't go that way.

Speaker 7 (29:57):
Yeah, that is especially in that uh the first drive
to like they got that fourth down play and obviously
you guys are still in it.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
So it's just like nobody's want to getting you have
that catch.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
Different game, it's a different game. How about the punt.
The punt too, they're rough in the punter. Different game.

Speaker 9 (30:17):
Who knows the game?

Speaker 3 (30:18):
I'm talking on the couch. I know, I'm talking on
a couch. Yeah, but you're wearing that heart on that
sleeve right now, which is awesome. Forty nine We're gonna
absolutely love it. You had a comment. I think you're
on an NFL network media row. It might have been yesterday,
So you wish you hope both teams loose. Obviously that's
not gonna happen. Who do you not hope? But who
do you think? Actually, yeah, imagine there's a tie for

(30:41):
Super Bowl. That can't happen, right, No, it can't happen. No, No,
there's no way, there's no ties, there's no ties. Who
do you think is going to win this game? Because
we've been this has been like obviously the conversation for everybody,
especially here in this house. Everyone's talking over and over about.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
How by the time this comes out, it's like it'll
be done.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
It'll be done. Who you think we'll clip it real quick.
You set it out today.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
Yeah, I don't know, man, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
I think I don't know.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
It's so hard for me to like say one or
the other, you know, because I'm so pissed off.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
You know.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
It's like, so you think the Eagles, No, not necessarily,
not necessarily, I mean tough. They're a stacked team that
got you know, so many weapons on offense, and and
and that pass rush is serious. It's tough to bet
against Pat Mahomes ever, you know, in a game.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
So, I don't know.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
I hope it's a good game, though, I don't know
if I watch, but I hope it's a good game.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
You think you're gonna watch the super It hurts that
bad hurts. It hurts. Brother. I can't. I can't imagine.
I mean I can't. I was in the Answer Championship once.
But that's gotta be fucking tough, you know exactly he's feeling. Yeah,
But like, I mean, we lost made it even tougher

(32:00):
because there's there is truly a like an argument for
what if Yeah, you know.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
What I'm saying, if we got beat, I'd be like,
you know what, man, prop and and look you're gonna
clip that. By the way, Philly fans hate hate me
right now for the whole I hope both team anyway,
but dude.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
It's Philly. They're literally that's what they do.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
So but but like I you know, I'm not saying
we would have won. I am saying, you know, we'd
have had a chance and that would have been you know,
would have won.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
But no, like that we would.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Have got it.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
It's actually on Twitter right now.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
No, But I just think having a chance is important
in the NFL football.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, yeah, I think Philly is gonna.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Win, So I do.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
I think that's yeah, that's what I think Philly's gonna
win there. And then you had a fantastic point earlier
this week where that the way the Chiefs win is
off scripted place.

Speaker 7 (32:57):
Yeah, that's I feel because I just feel like Philly
can line up and beat you eat, you know, both
ways on the ground to the air, which was tough,
which was what was shitty to watch with you guys.
You guys have such a tough defense, like seeing them
march down and like run the balls like fuck man.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Yeah, but this is the other thing about our team,
Like I just feel like we've been down in the
first half in multiple games this year where it was
looking like that, but our second half adjustments on defense,
like Demico Ryans had these dialed in the second half,
and I just feel like that was where we thrived.
Was that second half, that third and fourth quarter where

(33:32):
you know, we made a lot of way in that
second half.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
So who knows, But you, guys have a lot of
guys in free agency this year.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
We have some really important guys in free agency, but no,
we get a lot of guys back.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah, who are the guys that are in free agency?

Speaker 5 (33:48):
I'm gonna miss some of them, but I know, like
off the top of my head, mcglinche il right tackled
Jimmy Ward. I'm a big fan of Jimmy Ward's stud
I'm not sure receiver who.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Is up and who's not.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
I don't I'm not still not familiar with how old
everyone is, so I don't know, like who's in the
free agent market. Those are the ones that jumped off
the right of way, and I think d line Charles
uh uh center mayback.

Speaker 9 (34:16):
D line dude.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
So McGlinchey is one of those dudes on the offensive
line that I feel like it's way more hate than
he deserves. I feel like everyone's always like trashing him,
but I feel like he's a pretty solid tackle. Yeah,
he's really good, Harry slid Yeah, I mean thirty tough.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
Is you play on the opposite side of Trent Williams
your whole career, it's like, or not your whole career,
but like anytime.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
You put the opposide of Trent Williams, Yeah, like that's tough.

Speaker 9 (34:41):
Yeah, tough to like you're not you know what I mean?

Speaker 8 (34:43):
Yeah, No, Mike's been nothing, but he's been great.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Can you imagine being a part of a franchise that
had Joe Staley for eleven years and then he leaves
and then you actually have an upgrade? I tackle that's
like the most wild ship. His tackle is like one
of those positions like there's so much a man and
there's hardly any supply. Yeah, one hundred percent. It's crazy.
I just think go line in general.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
Now you can get a solid old lineman at any
of the five positions, but especially left tackle.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
That's so hard to find. Brother, and he does. He has.
Trent has no sign of slowing down at all. He
looks he got better with the commander is now off
taking the year off, which I feel like, never happens, dude, Yeah,
never happened.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
Sud Man, he's the free He's the freakiest player I've
ever seen in my life in person. And I don't
even know if it's close, like just practicing and like
it's stupid.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Does he practice hard?

Speaker 8 (35:38):
He doesn't practice Wednesdays.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
He does. Really, he does what he has to do. Yeah,
you could you get attest to that. Yeah, he does what.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
He'll be on the side, but he's one of those
guys that you can do that.

Speaker 8 (35:49):
Yeah, he's he's one of those guys that can Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
I was gonna say that conversation with the lunch stable.

Speaker 7 (35:54):
Genuine as hell, innocent as hell, Like I really am
waiting on the day where I walk in these doors
and someone challenges me a practic, Like he had that
comment when I was like a.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Rookie and he said that. He said that to Brian A.
Rackpo was like.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
Remember I knew it was for real too. Like Bosa.
You know, every everyone knows Bosa in the year that
he's had. We were on the bus one time and
he's like, I got the hardest job in America, Like
what He's like, I gotta go against trend every day.
That's gonna be Defensive Player of the Year, saying like,
I got the hardest job in America going to like
that's yeah, it's it's stupid, man, it's stupid.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (36:28):
I think he almost beat the ship out of somebody
on the Eagles, Sue at the.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
End of the game. Bro, he's a little long buddy,
and get a little bit of a history of just
going off and did that the Richard Truman back in
the day.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
He went after the he went after the dB W
the dB.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Ain't nothing wrong with that, you know, ain't nothing wrong
with that?

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Box box Hey what I wanted to because Sue ended
up trying to get in there.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
I'm like, oh, I'm trying to That would have been
a nice little right.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Dude, and Dominic Consumers trip Williams.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Right, I think I think Trent takes that. Now though,
what's I think Trent takes that?

Speaker 8 (36:58):
I'm not comming tho, man, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, yeah, like there's nobody I'm.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
Actually what if I comment on that's gonna kill me?
Next year we play on kill me.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
If he can catch you, Bro, you gotta believe yourself
being a catching you dude, when when you're training for
the COMMA, there's a video that came out about you,
Uh if you're doing like you were, like doing your
high knees over like some sort of like little little thing.
You know, the video we're talking about video? I think, uh, oh, yeah,
how much? How much did you?

Speaker 9 (37:31):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (37:31):
You're you're in a room, there's a TV going, and
you're stepping over this little like fucking step things like
this high and you're like going super fast. It looks
like it's fake. Do you remember that video? Okay, I
don't know. Is that video real? What a fucking question?

Speaker 1 (37:52):
But is that real?

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Being an absolute beast at Stanford.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Such a.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Man, dude.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
Yeah Yeah, Stanford was fun, man, And I think though
the football team was fun for sure.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
We had a good team, man, Like I feel like.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
People counted us out a lot and we didn't even
know how good we were. But there's like I want
to say, like twenty to twenty five dudes who I
played with in the three years I was there, who
were in the league, like in the league or just
got out like you know, who were jumping around for
a while.

Speaker 8 (38:30):
I didn't know if we knew how good we were.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
But it was fun.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Man.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
I had a lot of good times. That rose bul
game was a blast. My second year was you know,
that whole year was fun. So I enjoyed it.

Speaker 7 (38:41):
Are you like going through this season just and when
your shredding record, You're like, yo, this is fucking easy
out here.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
I didn't know if I was going to start before
the season started, so my freshman year it was it's
the whole same running back room as my next year,
so and I was I didn't start my freshman year.
I was kind of a you know, third down utility guy,
part return, kick return stuff like that. My second year,
I got the NOD and our first game we loose

(39:09):
to Northwestern and I had to fumble in the game,
and I just remember like, like, this is gonna be
an uphill battle for me. That was our first game.
So we're ohen one lost to unranked Northwestern at Northwestern
and you just don't know what's gonna happen in your territory.
So it was yeah, and then it just started going
and going and going. I don't think it hit me
till the end of the year, but that was fun.

(39:30):
It's a fun team to play.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
If you take Stanford out of it, what other what
college would you want to go to but the number
one college? Or what I would have Let's do both.
Where would you Where would you have gone if it
wasn't Stanford? And then if you had a choice of
any school besides Stanford, where where would you have gone?

Speaker 8 (39:46):
I probably would have gone to Oregon.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
That was like in the Michael James d Anthony Thomas
kind of era, and that kind of fit my style
just in high school, like same offense, the whole nine track,
all that stuff. But then, uh, I remember my dad
sat me down and he went over all the academic
stuff and I understood that, but he was like, if
you want to play in the NFL and like play
big dog football, you got to run in a pro

(40:11):
style offense. It is what it is because no one's
gonna think that you can run in a pro style offense.
And I was like, dang, you're right, like and he
was right, like I needed to run power, I needed
to run inside zone.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
I need you were going to go to Organ. I
wasn't going to go to Oregon.

Speaker 5 (40:25):
But I was debating between like Stanford, Oregon, Washington, and
then my older brother played at duke, so I was
highly considering going to play with you know, play a
duke with him too. So those were like the four
where I was pretty close to going to Yeah, how.

Speaker 7 (40:39):
Pivotal was it for you to have your old man
as like a mentor for you?

Speaker 1 (40:43):
It was growing up?

Speaker 7 (40:44):
Yeah, the best like legit like is it growing up?
Was it one year out the other? And then it
got a little bit more you took more of his
of his advice, like when you got closer to college
or how was that? How was that relationship with him
growing up?

Speaker 3 (40:57):
We?

Speaker 5 (40:57):
Uh, so I have three brothers and I'm I'm number two,
and we all we all played football and all, you know,
played a bunch of different sports. But it was such
an advantage, man Like, we could go to him with
anything and he was never like, hey, you gotta.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
He was tough. Man.

Speaker 8 (41:14):
We had a time. It was we grew up great.

Speaker 5 (41:16):
We you know, by any means where the farthest things
from spoiled. And it was hard at times, but we
had so much fun, man Like, I did everything with
my brothers and my older brother kicked my ass every
single day and everything we did, and it was it
was so good for me and and having my dad,
you know, obviously as an outlet at any time we wanted.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Was was great.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
I think not just for like, hey man, you know,
if you're running a route and under fifteen yards you
should never take more than three steps when you break,
and like different things like that, and how to cut
and how to plan and how to do this and that.
It was more like the emotional side of it and
how to handle your emotions when things happen. Because we
were all we were always really competitive. We never needed
like a hey man, you gotta try harder. It was

(42:01):
always really important to us. So that was never like
he didn't you know. He was big on effort and
grades and all these things. But I think like how
to handle your business and how to you know, deal
with emotions when you're on the field was important for
me to learn at a young age because if I
didn't have him, I don't know, you know, I don't
know what would have happened.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
I gotta follow up.

Speaker 7 (42:24):
You mentioned it being like it was hard at times,
Like what were the hard times? And when I say hard,
how the old man was tough on you? It's like
hard as a you know, when you're a kid like
it was. Now it's not hard.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
Look, we would get grounded for real if you got
jersey tackle like seven eight years old. If you got
jersey when you wear the big jerseys, Yeah, you get
grounded if you get jersey.

Speaker 9 (42:47):
Oh really.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
Your ground depot tape that double sided tape. I'm eight
and double side tape my pads. This is you know
they didn't have the velcrobe and double side tape my pads.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
I never got.

Speaker 8 (43:00):
I was running through everybody, no jersey tackles ever.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
You know, he would cut like certain slits in the
pant to give you like more neeflection, like back in
the day at eight years old, doing like dynamic warm ups.

Speaker 8 (43:12):
Dude, no SODA's bedtime seven thirty.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
Yeah, Like he would take they would take our phone
until I left for high school at like a time.

Speaker 8 (43:19):
He's gonna hate me for saying all this, but.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
It works if you.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
I mean, I don't know if he's gonna listen to it,
but but yeah, like that's was like we you know,
when diet was always important, sleep was always when now
we were kids, man, like we could go over to
the friend's house.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
It wasn't like a you know, like anything like that.

Speaker 5 (43:34):
But when it came to sports into school, it was, hey,
if you want to be here, here are the things
that you need to do. Like like Friday in my
off periods, like he would come pick me up. I
was in high school. We go, you know, like middle
of the day, getting Ivy. What Oh yeah, we're getting

(43:56):
We're getting just saline Ivy's game day because I remember
one game I cramped against Grandview High School, like my
sophomore year, first game in the fourth quarter. Calf cramps,
double calf cramps. It's like, you're never cramping again. Ivy's
never cramped again.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 8 (44:12):
And I like even like little things like you wearing jeans.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
Like aren't my school was a private school, you had
you wear jeans or you know, no sweats whatever, you
were in jeans to school. He doesn't even remember this,
but I remember it. It's pretty heavy on legs, don't
you think, like you know, like you're kind of right
war sweats got in trouble then this is like, look, dude,
you gotta be comfy during the day. You gotta be relaxed,
Like this is how you act on a game day,

(44:35):
Like this is what you do, like all that pep
rally shit, like don't be yelling, don't be loosing your
voice when you're out in the sun. If you squint,
your wasting energy, like make sure you have like I'm talking,
and I didn't realize. So like people who like know
me now and they see how you know, taking how
I take care of my body and like the warm
ups and all these stuff. It's like that's been like

(44:56):
bread in us since I was a kid, Like it's
been taught to a for the longest time, Like hey,
this is and that's what he did. And he was
over the top, Like there's guys in his team were
like what the hell is this guy?

Speaker 3 (45:07):
This guy's nuts.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
But you know, I mean I always felt like I
had a chimp on my shoulder and people were gonna
count me out, and so I was gonna do everything.

Speaker 8 (45:14):
He goed away in at like the washing. I mean
everybody did this.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
But like I go on my Washington visit, I think
I was like one eight I had to be one
eighty two or something like that's how much I weighed.
And he put like we put like little ten ten
pounds like slit squares in my shoes or in my
socks in case they made me take my shoes off,
so that if you take your shoes off, you know
obviously they're still in your socks. And I ended up

(45:41):
weighing like one ninety eight. I had like a thick
pair of puffy jeans on, like the whole nine. Every
trick in the brother you could think of. No to
the University of University of Washington.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
So your daddy your going pro the minute you came
out of the way.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
When when the coaches, when the college coach would come
to my high school, and like I was never small,
so to say, but I was always people would say
I'm small, Like for you know, I wasn't two thirty.
But he's like when the coaches come, like you got
to go knock out like twenty five in the bathroom.
Like so I would be doing push ups, bathroom floor

(46:18):
curls and with my backpack before like you know, some
QC from you know, Tennessee would come by. It has
no he's not gonna offer me at all anyway, but
my veins are popping out.

Speaker 9 (46:30):
I'm like, coach, nice to meet. You're like, yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Like the whole nine. Yeah, hilarious, whole nine.

Speaker 7 (46:37):
That makes sense because you were dressed you were dressed
up professionally when you visited Washington for your draft visit.
Because he was sitting in the special team's room with
the special teams coordinator.

Speaker 8 (46:48):
Because remember we met that guy. I remember came in
and you're.

Speaker 7 (46:50):
Like sitting there and you got like this college shirt
on everything else, Like, oh man.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
I didn't. I didn't know. It wasn't twenty minutes break.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
I remember.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
I should I did. I did every visit I took.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
I was like, I thought that's what people did it, Like,
that's why I did that.

Speaker 8 (47:01):
If I knew, like, you know, that guy's kind of going.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
Overboard, I probably would have, you know, maybe just not
to tie, you know, maybe not to tie, maybe just
the shirt.

Speaker 7 (47:10):
It's just the fact that he's in the special teams
coordinator's office, like he's obviously gonna be a top running back.
Yeah yeah, and he's in there talking teams the coordinator.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
You hard, Yeah, he's talking teams in every fifty minutes.
It's like, hey, coach, I had another bathroom, quick gets
another twenty yeah yeah, oh yeah, dude. He's got great
square shoulders and the great square shoulders.

Speaker 8 (47:31):
So like people forget you played nine years in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
People forget like like funny and it's so it's well,
he said, you what it's like nine years in the league?

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Man, that's pretty Let me get that. That's pretty impressive. No,
am I wrong?

Speaker 9 (47:47):
No, you're right, brother, dude.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
I think we're all kind of worried because I will
he played ten years now, ten years happened.

Speaker 7 (47:54):
No, I was just thinking. I was just wondering. You know,
I've had a little compliment.

Speaker 9 (47:59):
We'll call it.

Speaker 6 (48:01):
Christop mc.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Respect.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Yeah, you're eleven. You're Eleven's eleven? Well right now, that
is that's all eyes are on. You're eleven right now.
For Will Compton, when you years in the NFL, when
did you know like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna make
it to the NFL had eight years old, I remember.

Speaker 5 (48:23):
I would go to Like for me, it was I
always knew how hard it was to get to the
end like that. While while I knew I was good,
I always knew there was like another level and I'd
never gone against that other level. So I used to
go to those all American like the you know, the
FBU All American games. When I was in like the
seventh and eighth grade, and I just remember them hype

(48:45):
like they they thought I was the punter. They gave
me like the you know, the wrong they spelled my
name wrong on the jersey, and I just like stuff
like that mattered to me. And I just used to
piss me off so much, and it always like stuck
with me, and uh, they would hype up these other backs,
like these other guys you know, like so much, and
that was like the poster of their whole thing.

Speaker 9 (49:06):
I'm like, mo, like, I'm looking better than that.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Dude, somebody you're thinking about. Who was somebody in the.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Guy you're thinking about right now?

Speaker 5 (49:13):
He's my guy and I love him and he h
And by the way, at the time, looking back, he
probably he probably had.

Speaker 9 (49:19):
The edge on me, which is tough to admit. Yeah,
it was Michelle.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
Ran ten seven in the eighth grade, and you would
have thought this guy, I mean, he was an impressive
he played varsity as an eighth grader, and I just
remember like he was the gold standard in the middle
and talking, I'm talking about middle.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
School football right now. I don't but you see you
playing eighth grade seriously, fat, how do you play varsity
in eighth grade.

Speaker 9 (49:43):
American Heritage High School.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
I and all his highlight tapes, like he didn't even
know this, by the way, like but now he does.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
I used to like like I don't know what the
rule was in Florida, but in in Fort Lauderder, I
guess like they let him play varsity. I mean he
was bawling five in high school, so he was, yeah,
he was, he was, you know, and then did the
same thing, went to the like army all American games.

Speaker 8 (50:07):
Same and it's all the backs that are in the league.

Speaker 5 (50:09):
So like, looking back, I should have been like, hey man,
you're in the right class, like these are good, you know,
good backs, but I was. It was still like I
always had to prove myself everywhere I've been, and you know,
I mean, it is what it is. I feel like
that's everyone's story. It's not like just me. I feel,
you know more, I talk to people more like yeah, same,
you know, but.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
We all make up some ine me and or every.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Yeah, everybody has their own.

Speaker 8 (50:34):
Story absolutely like they I don't.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Know, I got like three guys in my head right now.
It's like I remember I remember looking at dudes being
like these guys fucking don't even know. Yeah, they have
no idea what's about.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
To come combine e er y dude, I'll never forget it.
And I didn't even realize it either. I didn't look
at like the way they spelled my name, so I
did the whole thing. My buddies are hitting me up, like, dude,
Yeah damn though they disrespected you.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Yeah, how does that make you feel? You know what
it's like?

Speaker 5 (51:09):
Because because I'm I get like salty like that, I
I notice it more like I'm sure most people who
aren't bitter like me, they're probably like, yeah, whatever, like
who cares, you know, and they're fine, it doesn't matter.
But because I like, you know what I mean, I
don't know, Like you said, you all you always create
an enemy, and I think that's what keeps guys going
Like I it's it's you. You have to keep that chip.

(51:30):
Otherwise it's it's just tough to find a purpose.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
You're not You're not the minority. I feel like keeping
the chip, like, there's way more guys like that, and
most of the time that there are these successful guys
right that have that chip always that are like this,
people are out to get me and one one little
thing like spelling your last name wrong, Like this is
all I needed, Like this, this is the affirmation I
needed person to know. Yeah, you know that, like these

(51:55):
people are really truly out to get me.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
Yeah, exactly, that's how you feel. You're like, yeah, you
to fail, yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
And and honestly, if you really were able to zoom out,
no one's thinking about you.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
Didn't care less, not one person, probably the marketing dude
who like couldn't even like he's just putting together the
like doing the jerseys in the back.

Speaker 8 (52:13):
It's not like, yeah, the NFL is not again.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Roger Goodell, Roger Goodell called was like, fuck it up, dude,
we cannot have a white running back in the NFL
right now. Oh the guy's name wrong?

Speaker 9 (52:22):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Yeah, it's crazy, you know.

Speaker 5 (52:25):
But and and sometimes it is like that, but you know,
there's real stuff that where you're like, man, somebody actually
might feel like that. But then you find the little
things that just kind of subconsciously confirm it. It's like
it's just keeping me alive right now, Like that's what's
that's what's waking me up.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
You seem super fucking competitive. What's keeping you alive? Right now?
What's that game? That last game?

Speaker 5 (52:46):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, that'll that'll I think everybody kind
of feels that, you know, the whole Yeah, I mean,
that's there's a lot you know. It was a good
revival of the year of like, all right, let's go.
You know that's how I feel.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
You hope to play against Carolina soon.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
That's gonna be awesome, Dude. That was the best possible
as you could have had. They are do you guys
play the next year? I don't think we play next year? Know,
I know, we don't plan.

Speaker 7 (53:15):
You know, you know they don't have any other question,
I know.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
I well, I just want to ask real quickly, what's that?

Speaker 1 (53:22):
All right?

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Cool? Eight minutes? All right? Uh, Matt Rule? He is
now the head coach of Nebraska. What things do you have?
Like obviously his time in Carolina was up and down.
He got fired, But what do you think he's going
to make him successful or if he's even going to
be successful in Nebraska? Like, what what can I look
forward to?

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (53:40):
What can we look forward to? Seriously?

Speaker 3 (53:42):
The boys will play hard?

Speaker 5 (53:45):
Like that's one thing with coach Rule, you know, you
buy into his his way, Like guys play hard, man,
from top to bottom. I mean, you know the deal
in the NFL, how tough it is to coach in
this league, and a lot of things have to go right.
I always said, like head coaching, quarterback, way too much credit,
way too much blame.

Speaker 8 (54:05):
But no I have I have nothing but good things
to say about coach Rull.

Speaker 5 (54:08):
He he got us going, man, he really from from
the first year he got there too, And and the
different things that he did and learned in his time,
and his ability to change the things that he thought
were wrong I thought was impressive too, Like openness to
talk to guys, being able to, you know, say hey,
that was probably wrong of me to do, and then

(54:28):
change and actually go by it, you know, understanding like hey,
I don't have it all figured out.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
I'm in year one two.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
Adaptability, But I mean you saw the success he had
in college.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Man, that's I don't think it's a reason. Yeah, fires
me up. That's amazing. Well, it does seem like a
consistent message. Like as far as was Matt Rule, the
one was Christian, the one Matt Rule said saw his
family in the airport. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he had. He
was very complimentive of you said that you were walking out.

(54:58):
I think it was when he got when you got traded. Yeah,
and you saw his family and his kids in the
in the airport and you went up to them and said,
what's up?

Speaker 5 (55:06):
Onward man, onward and upward you guys. Yeah, Yeah, it
was weird. Honestly, it's like, this is an interesting head.
Coach gets canned, I get canned.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
It's like, yeah, brother, you didn't get canned. You know
I can. Yeah, No, you think you gotta tell you so?
Would they would they get in the trade? What did
Carolina get?

Speaker 5 (55:26):
They got a two, three, a four, and a five.
Not all in the same year, I think. I think
it's over a couple of years.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Yeah. Man, you know he told himself that too, like,
oh they didn't get.

Speaker 7 (55:38):
Me a first Okay, okay, I know I would have
handled it, and I took that personal and yeah, dude
got it.

Speaker 9 (55:47):
Uh And I've had.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
I think one that comes to mind was the first
play of the Rose Bull. I was you know, that
was a game that I don't think anybody knew what
was gonna happen, and uh I was pissed off, and
uh I just lost the heisman. The boy Derrick Henry.

(56:23):
It was the boy.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
By the way.

Speaker 8 (56:24):
I love that guy, I really do.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
I want to not like him, I can't. I love
his game, I love him. I think he's I think
he's great.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
But then a couple of years ago, when you beat
us in Carolina, you're like, that's for you, Derek.

Speaker 5 (56:40):
But that game, that game, you know, I think that
that play sparked just uh, one of those games where
just everything goes right for you. You know, I think,
like the safety came down the middle, linebacker slip so
there's no whole player. Then there's nobody behind the guy.
So I had to do is make him miss, and god,
it just house call. And I think we all knew,
like this is about to be one of those games.

(57:01):
And then and then the flip against uh, when I
jumped over that dude against Jacksonville. That was a fun play.
That hurt My back hurt for like six weeks after that,
But that was that was a memorable one.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
That's fucking awesome. I know, right, makes you got anything,
Garrett jack.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
We were winning, you know, I mean I think I think,
like I have a hard time like when you're losing,
like celebrating, like it's kind of like the urgency to
like get back to the huddle and get going a
little bit is you know, And you're not the first
person that said that, and I it might too be
just like when you get traded.

Speaker 9 (57:47):
It's it.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
There's a lot of pressure that comes with that because
you're on a new team, but there's also like an
amount of pressure that just gets off your shoulders. We're like,
you know what, man, Like, I'm gonna just go have
fun playing football because this is what I love to do.
And you know, I just think when you I, we
had so many tough seasons in Carolina that I wanted
more to celebrate than like the touchdown.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
You know, I wanted to win games.

Speaker 5 (58:09):
I wanted to be like, not just win one, get
win a couple in a row and then start to
get momentum. Then you start to see the boys having
a little more fun, but uh, just tough.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Sometimes that fires me up, dude.

Speaker 7 (58:22):
I'm pleasure with the I'm glad you with san fran
because I feel like you guys are they can be
good for a while. They got the organization running smooth.
It's just getting to the fucking super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Yeah right not. I can get Rogers though, Rogers say
he's not going to San Fran. You see that.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
The Raiders might have a shot at him. We'll see, Yeah, if.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
The Raiders are the big one, big one for him.
But I thought he said in a golf tournament, I'm
not going to San Fran. Yeah, I think he said,
Did you say that? I don't know. I don't know
why I am crushing this podcast?

Speaker 1 (58:51):
What kind of father you think you're gonna be?

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Kind of father?

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Are we getting jersey tackles? We grounding the kids?

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Or what are you doing that?

Speaker 8 (58:57):
You gotta do what you know, That's all I know.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
I'm all at a boy. I worry about that. Though.

Speaker 5 (59:02):
I worry about that. It's like, is my kid gonna
hate me? Like, hey, man, come over here real quick.
We're gonna tape your jersey, put it in from the fireplace,
and do all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
And I was.

Speaker 8 (59:11):
Like seven thirty, all right, I forget what got home
from hoops?

Speaker 5 (59:17):
Like, but no, I mean it's funny because it started
to work, like when he did that, and I was like, damn,
like all right, that's the way it is.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
That's the way it is.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
And I enjoyed having success more than I enjoyed like
you know, staying up and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
It was fun for me.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
So I think all of us hated it at times,
but under we all understood it, all four of us
staf Yeah.

Speaker 8 (59:39):
But yeah, So what am I gonna be? I don't know,
that's a good question.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
Maybe my kid will like do music or something and
maybe teach me some stuff about I don't know, who knows, dude.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
I appreciate you coming on.

Speaker 7 (59:50):
And I just remember too, like your dad was your
dad was one of my first NFL action figures.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Oh nice.

Speaker 7 (59:57):
Yeah, so watching this, mister McCaffery, you were one of
my first action figures.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
My dad, you know, white receiver, he white guy. You're
gonna be like him, gonna be you. Yeah, but thanks
for coming on.

Speaker 8 (01:00:09):
Man, it's been guys having me. Man, appreciate you.

Speaker 7 (01:00:11):
Talking about all the you know, forty nine or stuff.
The trade. Yeah, it'll be.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
It'll it'll be a good insight for people to see,
like what are your mindset was that? Because I know
a lot of people are wondering.

Speaker 7 (01:00:22):
I can't wait for the stories with the old man
going coming out. I can see that stuff like Jersey
Jersey fucking getting ground.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
You might not see it, but one of his buddies
is gonna see it, and you see this, he's like
hunt what he said, what He's gonna go watch all
them videos, all the McCaffrey.

Speaker 6 (01:00:36):
Brotherly Like yeah, hell yeah, yeah, that's awesome, dude.

Speaker 8 (01:00:42):
He's here, Yeah, he's doing about.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
Here's that radio road doing some medias, he does some
stuff with serious Hell.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Yeah, dude. He's still in the game, on the game,
in the game, crushing it. So that's a lot brother appreciated, guys.

Speaker 9 (01:00:54):
Thank you man. Yeah,