Best of the Bus: Diego Pavia Says Vanderbilt Will Run Tennessee + Make The College Football Playoff

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Diego Pavia, starting quarterback Vanderbilt, true underdog mentality. I was

(00:46):
telling you before we got on here, like you are
the epitome of a high school wrestling state champ that
also plays quarterback.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Is that a backhanded compliment?

Speaker 1 (00:56):
No, I think it's a great compliment. I think it's
a great I think it explains everything about his game,
his antics on the field, off the field, everything you
hear the area around the Eagle Pavia. It makes so
much sense that he was a how like you were
a state champion, but you were kind of telling me
that you were number one in the country for.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
For like fourth grade into like seventh grade.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Which is before puberty. So fourth grade is seventh grade.
Then everyone kind of hit puberty, and then after that
it was it was no, it's crazy to be number
one in the country. I'm just messing with you, but
that is that is wild. I feel like you are
the first generation of cats that grew up watching Johnny Manziel.
Like the way you play, and I mean that as

(01:36):
one hundred percent comment, like you talk shit, you get
after it. Dudes hit the shit out of you in
the sideline. You're limping on your leg, but your boys,
your offensive lines watching you limp over, they're getting they're
muscling up against other cats, and you just going there
and you just don't give a fuck. It really feels
like it's like, hey, we got a play call, boys,
but diego at the end of the day, like you're

(01:56):
gonna do whatever the fuck you want to do.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I think sometimes, uh, they think that's what the play
call is. But I'm just changing it, you know what
I mean. So I just change it to what I like.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
So you you'll just go you'll go a well and
change it to whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
At times, yeah, yeah, like uh, if the play say
it's a run, play second and short, like now we're
we're deep, we're going deep. We get in the next play,
no coach.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Where he's aware in the time it's happening, He's like
what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah yeah, Sometimes like they get to talk to you now,
and so like on the earpiece, it's like whoa, whoa,
Like what are we doing? Like he's talking to someone
else on the top, you know what I mean. But
like I can't talk back. I don't have a mouth,
he said, he can hear me. So it's just like shit,
just better work.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
You're like you're thinking your head. You guys are taking
a little too long for my liking. Like let me,
I'm just gonna draw something up right.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Well not he'll call a play, but it's like I
checked down and we do a number system, and so
if it's like a run, then I'm not changing it,
you know what I mean. And then sometimes you asked
me in the film and like what'd you get here,
and I'm thinking, well, I thought you said a different number.
But in reality, in my head, I'm just changing the play.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Now.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
What do you what are you changing the play based off?
Are you looking at safety rotation? You'll at this nickel
press corner over here and you're like, okay, they're bringing
a little pressure over here, or you like, hey, it's
we're here to score. We're here to score touchdowns. I'm
here to ball out.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Coach.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
It's like tendancy, you know what I mean, Like, oh,
first first drive against Let's say they were playing Bama,
first drive against BAM when they brought the house, second
and short. All right, man and man, I'm expecting man
and man, let's take the top off.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
I mean we listen, we can jump around. We have
to jump around all of your like your career, the
no offers, you have two D two offers, you go
to juco route and you jump around essentially with kill
THEE in your entire career. But like you did bring
up something that was that Vanderbilt hasn't done since win.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
E never been.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I've never done that. And I remember sitting at tight
end you at Vanderbilt's practice facility and your boys running
up and obviously I see the offensive lineman. We wp up,
you got a bunch of cash just ripping around talking
about oh shit, we we'd that. I'm like, hey, this
white guy. Is this guy doing right? But then they're
like always starting to hey, this Pavia kid, this Pavia kid,
his CAD's the truth, blah blah blah blah. Like you

(04:17):
get to you get to play Alabama at Vanderbilt, it's
a totally different atmosphere. It's still an away game for
you guys because at this point we don't have the
lore of Diego Pavia and Vanderbilt yet, and so you
have this stadium out of construction, Nick Saban or no,
this is killingdi bor. They come in and you guys

(04:37):
put on a clinic like it's like they score, you guys,
go go down the field, eight nine, ten plays, score again,
back and forth and are able to beat Alabama. Like
obviously I've known you a little bit of time, and
it's always confidence, But like, how at what point where
you're like, holy shit, we're really going to do this,
Like it's actually not talking anymore, We're actually going to
be able to pull this off.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Oh like when we won, I would just think like
when I when we pulled the ball and I got
like a twelve yard game and then like the game
was over. But like I always thought like we could win,
like they know, Like that's just how I approached the game. Though.
It's just like, uh, if you go in there with
the losing mentality, you're screwed already. And so for me,

(05:18):
I don't care if it's Bama, Nebraska, Michigan. We don't
say that any words.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Do you get something Michigan?

Speaker 2 (05:29):
I do?

Speaker 3 (05:30):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Well, Michigan's a great school, but they should be winning
more than they should with the cap that they got,
like de Poortnoy donates to Michigan. I know the nil
the roof. Should you not win?

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, no, I agree, And we won seven games last
year with throwing turned off. Like if you're if you're
talking about, hey, there's multiple phases to an offense. You're
gonna take off probably like a fifty an offense and
still win seven games and just knock down, drag him
out three yards and cloud of dust.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
The running back was good, though he should have went
higher than what he did in the draft.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
You know, he started his first twenty games at the
University of Michigan. He was a linebacker. I think we
got to make this cat a running back.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
He's really good. Yeah, he saw hid where's he at now?

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Come on?

Speaker 3 (06:18):
I think he went to the Jets. I'm not sure,
but yeah, I mean, listen, tough year. We win the
national championship. You must have forgot about that in twenty
twenty four, and then we go into this past year. Yeah,
we had some difficulties at quarterback. Not going to come
out the boys at all. We had a hard time
tossing the ball over the yard. It was bad. It
was not great. Now we got this cat, Bryce Underwood,

(06:39):
who apparently is the second coming. I'm a little nervous
about that, but like you've got to assume, at the
very least, we're going to be a little bit better.
And the throwing categories were last years. I think our
defense is gonna be really good.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah. I think he'll be really good too.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Have you met him before?

Speaker 1 (06:53):
No?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
I haven't, But like I've seen in some of my
boys that know him, they say he's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Your guys's confidence is obviously very high coming off of
last year. You had an incredible year, iconic best in program, history. Really,
first time you guys ever beat a top five program
in the program's history at home against Alabama. You guys
go down to Bear Bryant Stadium this year. You in
your brain, you think the outcome is going to be

(07:21):
the same.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
For sure, I have no doubt. Like we got the
guys to go do it. We got the firepower, we
got the depth, got the defense offense. Like we would
be selling yourselves short if if I was to sit
here and tell you, like we don't have the face
to go win the national championship.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
You guys, are you boys are thinking natty?

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, you guys are sitting here in your offseason program.
You're thinking national chap national championship. I don't want to
be rude. That's a that's a very high expectation for
you guys. If you guys don't want a national championship,
was that a disappointment?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
For sure? You you win ten games and the sec
you're in the tournament and then it's any one's game,
and you like you, I like me over everyone.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
I love the chipps on it shot because when he talks,
you're like, hey play for Vannerbilt, But like Lokey, what
he's talking about I believe everything he's saying.

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Speaker 3 (09:11):
And have you always had this type of chip on
your shoulder where you're like, yeah, it doesn't matter who's
in front of me, they're they're going down.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, Like we were talking about wrestling, and wrestling is
a true one on one sport who's better.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Me or you?

Speaker 2 (09:23):
And so I feel like I developed it from wrestling
for real.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, I was gonna ask too, how much you think
like wrestling played into that. It's like, because you're right, Like,
you go out there, it's one on one, the win
is on you, the loss is on you, right, and
you being as competitive as you were, like learning that
about you being number one in the nation growing up,
Like he was hitting the circuits like the Triple Crown,
Tulsa Reno. We were chopping it up pretty good because
I had no clue that he that he had a

(09:48):
bag like that been wrestling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're finding
common friends, common people that we have in common.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Did he ever come across Cody?

Speaker 1 (09:56):
No, because he was like, how was your brother? I
asked how he was? He was like twenty three. I
was like, oh, yeah, this about a decade ago. But yeah,
I was like, you know, Cody, how we won senior nationals?
And he's like again, he was a stud wrestler, so
he understands. He understands the respect there. Yeah, he gets
the game.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
You talked about being like number one of the nation
from fourth to seventh grade high school? Did you keep
wrestling all the way through?

Speaker 2 (10:18):
No, I really like took a year off eighth grade year.
I didn't. I didn't. I knew I loved I love football,
not wrestling, so I was really just focusing on football.
And then I had no offers, but I and I
still had a partial scholarship to unc H Northern Colorado.
And then after that, I was like, no, I'm still
in the state of football. Walked on in Juco.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
So you had a partial for wrestling Northern Colorado and
you opted to go to Juco rode in football just
because you loved it more.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Walk on football, dude.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
People are going People always talk about how, like, you know,
you look at a guy like Cam Woard zero offers
out of high school, he's now the first overall pick.
When you are going your freshman through senior year of
high school and you're putting out there every single week,
you're you're obsessed with football, you love it. I'm assuming
you're the same intellity you do now, Like what level
of frustration is coming to you when you're seeing other
quarterbacks probably in the same state as you'd been, Like, Bro,

(11:10):
I am better than him. Why are they offering these
cat instead of me? Like talk about like yeah, that
mind frame and all that things, because there are cats
right now that are listening to this podcast that are
probably in the same exact situation. Like I feel like,
am I just delusional? I swear to God I'm better
than these other guys?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Oh yeah, you see it all the time. And then
you go to camps too, and you're putting balls like
in way better spots and this kid's like a four
star and you're like, what the how is that kid
a four star? You know what I mean? But like
you don't want to play or hey either and like
go to coaching, but yo, what the Like why you
got offering this kid and not me? But like at
the same time, like the cream rises at the top
every time.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
So what was the journey like when you were in Juco,
because I want to say that there was a story
that they were kind of briefing us on that you
were still you know, not having any offers. Did you
go to the JUCO National Championship. Yeah, so there's another
quarterback there. They've played against that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
This is why I liked JUCO two because like the
coaches there, there's a lot of politics in like D one. Now,
if who gets paid more is gonna play and JUCO
do matter if you're a five star, no star coaches
trying to make it out too, so it's best player
on the field all times. And so I transferred in
with this four star and it was me versus four star,
and I legitimately beat out a four star. That's when

(12:22):
I knew stars don't mean nothing. And then took it over.
And then the next year we won the national championship
and then I finally got I had three offers. I
had Jackson State where Dion was New Mexico State, and
then Saint Francis and.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
The New Mexico State one because that's where you opted
to go. Was the quarterback you were facing in that
national title game. He was an offered kid from New
Mexico State. You ball out, they end up flipping.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
So our head coach, coach Kill and coach beck Aer
offensive coordinator, were at Hooters in Las Cruses, New Mexico
they told me the story, and they're at Hooters having
to be or whatever. They're hammered, and they're watching the
game the night before they offered the other kid that

(13:05):
we're about to play against, and my OC knows I
kind of like get fired up about that stuff. So
he comes to my room. He's like, hey, they offered
the other kid, don't worry about it, just play better
than him. Tomorrow. That went out there. I had like
three touchdowns, two hundred and seventy yards probably like eighty
rushing beat him like thirty one fourteen or something. And

(13:27):
then the next day I got a call from coach
Kill like I was offered. They pulled his scholarship and he.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Told you they pulled this kid scholarship.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, they told me like the exact story.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Right, yeah, And were you okay this? No, I'm thinking
about it later down the road, Like what was about
coach Kill? Was it really at the time just like, yo,
they offered it the biggest school, I'm going to go there?
Or was there already a relationship kind of intact with
coach Kill?

Speaker 2 (13:50):
No, I was thinking about going to Jackson State. But
Dion was so real. He was like, hey, you like
you're not putting this ain't a fifty to fifty. My
son's playing regardless, And he said that, yeah yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
He's even if you were better than even if.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
You're better, like, my son's playing regardless. He's like, we're
looking for a backup. It's like if you want to
come here and be back of him. And I'm thinking
my head, like, I know, fucking back up, you know
what I mean? So I was like, I'm not going
to Saint Francis because I can't go to Lead from there.
So I was thinking, ship in New Mexico State is
my only option?

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Damn. What was it like getting recruited by Dion?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
It was pretty cool. It was short, it was short,
but he was real. That's what I like.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, man, that is that is That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, I mean Dion Sander's sitting there, and for him
to sit there with all the s Sander stuff going on,
he falls in the draft of the fifth round and
essentially you look back five six years ago. He's like, hey, diego, like,
we'd love to have you, but like you'll be holding
a clipboard because no matter what my son's wanting, Yeah,
even if you're throwing dots Yeah, and obviously the wrong
guy to tell that too.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah. Another good trip on his shoulder, right, like you
got a lie? Yeah, less truthful production.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Just keep the mic close to.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
The production when you go go to New Mexico State.
Remind me, is this when the world was starting to
open up with transferring in Nio. Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:07):
No, it was the year before, so it might have
been twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, because I'm asking, because I'm thinking, I think it's.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Twenty twenty two, so and I just started creeping up.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
So you're you're probably thinking, Juco, this is probably the
best route so far with New Mexico State. If I
ball out here, I can get to a better program.
Were you even thinking that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:24):
No, uh, I was thinking, shit, Well, I lived in
New Mexico my whole life, so it was like I
wanted to play against the Lobos and that's our arrival
school and the Lobos. The first year I was in
now at the lineup playing with this other kid, and
the only game I did not get to play was
against the Lobos. So the next year I was like,

(15:44):
this is money game played against the Lobos. There's a
little story about it that before the year I pissed
on their lobo, like in the mid in the midfield
of their indoor and like before the game, no one
said anything about it, and they were using it as

(16:06):
fuel and they thought they were going to beat us
and then be like use it against me after, you
know what I mean? Anyway, when in there wiped them out,
the head coach was all sad and stuff, but I
really had something against them because they didn't recruit me
either out of Juco and I want a national championship.
They were still losing and or at a high school.
So it was like real life like beef with the coaches.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
It was personal for you.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, so you tail those old as time. Yeah, Like
I'm from this state, I want to go to this school.
I'm assuming you want to go to Lobo. Yeah, and
then they don't offer.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
It's like show you, Yeah, no, I gotta go piss
on their loan. What trans the oldest time?

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:40):
What conversations had to take place or what went through
your brain where you're like, you know what, I don't
know how to get these boys. I'm gonna urinate on
the fifty ross thought.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Before you answer that question, what was your strategy? I
thought it would be funny.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Before you answer that question, I have a question for
Will Comptent. What is lobo.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Spanish for uh no, clue, lobos chicken. Now that's polo.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
What's your favorite? Whoa, oh, that's a tough l for
Will Compton, the tough alf Will Constant. But yeah, what's
the what's the thought process?

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Like there was no thinking.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
It was you don't say these guys, Yeah, yeah, that's
some that's some Blue Mountain State type ship. Johnny Man's
l Blue Mountain State. What's the old Billy Bob Varsity blues?
He just put the VCR thees and kids like, this
is gonna be my this is what I'm doing. So

(17:41):
you just went and pissed the fifth year line? How
did they find out that you did that?

Speaker 2 (17:44):
So the the guy who I was with, Reggie, Yeah,
he he posted on Snapchat and then.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
So you're with you're with a buddy, and he was
with three buddies.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Picture this fucking cat sweatpants on.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
I was with like three buddies and one of them recorded,
but I didn't know. And then I came back to
my phone and they're like, hey, tell Regali take that off.
And I took it off and it was too late.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
They already got ahold of it.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I already got a hold of It's.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
The news network of New Mexico.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yep, they jumped all over that shit as hell.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah, we'll score that game.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
We beat them by like ten, Okay, so you got
ten fourteen something that Okay.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
When does it start to sink in or like when
does the conversations in thought process start to happen that
I can go somewhere else now.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
So what happened was at New Mexico State, we were
two and three, ended up ten and three. So like
by game we're like on a win streak and we're
about to go to the conference championship and stuff, and
so like before that, like a game before when we're
like nine and three, my coach gets in my ear like, hey,

(18:58):
I got I got someone calling me from a power
for school. You'd really like it. I want you to
come with me when the season is over. It's like,
all right, bet, like this is my opportunity, you know.
And so he he's doing his thing, and then it's
our offensive coordinator. So our offensive coordinator at the end
of the season leaves and he's like, all right, I'm

(19:18):
going to Vandy, and so he wanted me to come
with them, but coach Kills still out in Mexico State.
Then coach Kill a week later decides to retire, and
then I was like, okay, well if I hire the
defensive coordinator, then I'll stay. Didn't hire him. That was
my sign later, So.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
If New Mexico State were to hire the DC, you
would have stayed.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I would have stayed.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah, what was about the DC that you really they
got to hire this guy?

Speaker 2 (19:42):
He was real. He wasn't pay me the money I wanted. Okay,
and uh he was like he was the one who, like,
our defense is really good in Mexico State. So I
was thinking, okay, well we could win here and then
there's like a chance like how Boys State went to
the playoffs, like that we'd be that team that whole

(20:02):
team was freaking stacked, Like we got we got Eli,
we got meet Eli, MK Trent. Well, these are just
guys on the team. Yeah yeah, I'm just saying first
names to but you guys are dogs. But we got
dogs on the team. We got like seven of the
guys from New Mexico State team on the Vannerbilt team

(20:23):
and was.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
There a situation where you were possibly gonna go be
a part of the wolf pack Nevada.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I committed to Nevada.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
So this is while you're in New Mexico State going
a little visit.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
So yeah, I took some visits. And the whole time
that I'm taking visits, I'm like, back up my mind,
I thinking I'm going to Vandy. So the whole time
I have a notebook that I'm taking on these visits.
I really didn't know how to read a defense when
I was at New Mexico State, and I'm like just
penciling in, like just meeting with the offensive coordinators how
they how they uh read the defense, you know, middle close, middle, open, blitz,

(20:54):
how they call. And I'm just taking little like details
away from these offensive coordinators just in case I do
go back to Vandy, like how to clean stuff up?

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Okay. And this when you were looking and taking business
and thinking about Vandy was coach Kill had he not
retired yet?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
So he so he retired, And then I was like,
because Coach Kill is like basically kind of like my dad,
and so like when he retired, I was like, you know,
I'm just going to Nevada, Like Nevada. I really like Nevada.
That like coach Choke And then I commit that night
and I called coach Beck, who's offensive coordinator of Bandy,
and I'm like, hey, like, I'm committed to Nevada, Like

(21:30):
I appreciate you guys. He's like, wait, wait, wait, I
got someone to call you. Coach Kill calls me, tell
me he's coming out of retirement to be basically just
be on the Vanderbilt staff and just take care of
the offense. So then my mom was like, yeah, you're
gonna go to Bandy. So that yeah, I'm going to Bandy.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
And have you been to Vandy at this point yet?

Speaker 5 (21:49):
No?

Speaker 2 (21:49):
It never took a visit.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
So did you have no idea about Nashville, Tennessee or
the area or nothing like that? You know what you
saw SEC and Conference? I gotta get there? What's you
throw in there? Right?

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Are you good?

Speaker 3 (22:03):
God? What did I say something?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Do you know the three conmerces of the NFL, A
f C, NFC and SEC.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
But the two last national champions were from the Big Ten?

Speaker 5 (22:18):
Right?

Speaker 1 (22:19):
But how are you gonna?

Speaker 2 (22:21):
But is there more in the Big Ten or in SEC?

Speaker 1 (22:24):
College football has to kind.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Of play out like the NL is established a level
playing field that we all we all sit here, we
all everybody can pay players now, right, everybody can pay players,
not just one because you're right, it is a f C,
NFC and SEC, and we're talking about pay checks. But
now that everybody can pay everybody, it's like, okay, now
it's just a f C NFC and then the rest
of college football.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
So do you think the Big Ten has a higher
percentage of winning it this year? The SEC, the.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Big Ten, Big Ten, the national title?

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, big?

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Oh absolutely.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
I mean, listen, you guys about on the back what
you guys know, Yeah, is that double?

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Oh that's more than double. But if you look at
the recency like that, So those forty three national championships,
how many of those came after and I al started.
That's that's the question you got to ask because the SEC, ya,
you guys would have national treatment. You guys are paying
seven figures to players.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
It's probably when I was in it's probably two and two.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
I don't think it is.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, two and two. You're saying that didn't pay players.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
I know we were there. This is a clean conference,
clean conference, high character conference.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
No do that?

Speaker 3 (23:40):
I mean as far as I know, two and two.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
As far as I and two.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Right, two and two, and the last two have been.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
If we were having this podcast in twenty twenty two,
I would said the last two have been in the SEC.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
But we're not right. If we were, if if this
is nineteen twelve, we've been talking about how the Titanic
sunk a couple of months ago. Like what are we
talking about? Like if I could go back in time,
I would invest in Netflix, but like we're just yeah, exactly,
we're living in the now. Brother, we can talk about
crazy shit.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
So, speaking of since the NIL era, give us your
first run in the NIL game, because clearly you had
stuff going on with either stay in New Mexico State.
I want to go to Nevada. Now I'm going to
commit to Vandy. So your first crack in the NIL game.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
First cracking the NIL game. I was getting paid fourteen
hundred in New Mexico State, and I was per month
for the year, per month, okay, And I was pissed
because Eli Stowers was getting three thousand a month and
he played tight end and I played quarterback.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
So your piss is on your own team. This is
the internal locker room, this.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Internal locker man, fuck that, like I need to go harder,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:47):
And then it all worked.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
And then when Nevada's recruiting you, like, what are they
telling you?

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Am I allowed to say that?

Speaker 1 (24:55):
I think? Is he not? Why wouldn't he be?

Speaker 3 (24:57):
I think? So we could double check. But essentially, when
you are in the transfer portal, people come to you
and they're like, we could pay you this.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah yeah, right, like they like they they everything you
hear on the internet.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
I don't even know what's on the internet. Yeah, it's
it's like when so for example, Gryce Underwood.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
So there's a four year, ten point two million.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Right right, right, you learned that stuff, but it's not
so you know, candid that you understand what everybody makes
in the NFL. So it's more of like you're saying,
it's more storytelling. So now that you're at Vanderbilt a
couple of years removed from it, I'm just I'm truly curious,
like when you're like a new guy in that circuit,
like what those conversations are actually like and if they're real,
if some of some of it's fake. You feel like

(25:38):
you get lied to and just even understanding that you
had a tied end on your team that was making
more than you, And it's like gotta chip on your
shoulder because that' stuff that everybody talks about but you
don't really understand until year and it's like, oh, that
is a real thing. So I'm truly asking, not on
like a gotcha moment, I'm just like, what were these conversations,
like when you're on a lower level, how much of
that weighs into the impact of you actually going to

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that school because just.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
With things in respective when Will and I put in college,
you talk about making fourteen hundred, Like I think I
got twelve hundred dollars a month.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah, we were in on a SKLLI check.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
Yeah, and just a blanket statement. These are conversations that
he had with people completely separate from any universities.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yes, yes, yes, that's.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
A great insurance pose because we're not here to get anybody.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
I would just say like, well, coming from that fourteen
hundred to like these other schools were offering me like
a like a car houses in like big time money.
It's like holy shit, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Like that even with like Nevada and when you're coming
out of New Mexico. Yeah, yeah, yeah, damn.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
And so like obviously this last year I didn't go
into portal or anything because I knew where I want
to stay. The most important thing to me is like
playing time and then obviously winning a national championship when
we got the guys to go do it. So I
would never leave these guys.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
So New Mexico, when you're thinking about Nevada, Vandy, is
there an amount of money that you stay at New
Mexico State? Like does it come down to Obviously there's
other factors, going with your coaches, going with a coach
kill who seems like a father figure to you, Yeah,
I'm sure they probably get a little bit.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
That was priceless. Count that was priceless. Of like them
obviously taking me into Mexico State, That's like, that's priceless.
And then I would have stayed at New Mexico State
for one hundred thousand and shit. Yeah. And then at Bandy,
the quarterback they just brought in, they paid them way
over one hundred thousand, and they offered me one hundred

(27:34):
and fifty, And I was like, well, I didn't know that,
you know what I mean, I'm going from fourteen hundred
to one hundred fifty thousand. I'm like, oh, sign me up,
you know what I mean? Yeah, And so that's that's
how I took you last year.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
How does college football work when guys are getting paid
this much? Like do you guys have meetings with financial advisors?
Do you have people come in to be like how
do tax Like do you understand taxes? These brackets? Like
do you have people that are taking care of all
this for you?

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah? I hate taxes.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Everyone does. Isn't it crazy?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Like the minute, Yeah, it's awful. Yes, but I'm gonna
I live in Nashville, Tennessee too. That's a lot of
things that players don't get, is like the taxes here
like here Florida and there's like seven states, but taxes.
What else did he ask?

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Just how how the process works with college football and
like making sure everyone's funny actually literate.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
They they So Vanderbilt does a good job of like
bringing in you know, ex players or alumni that are
big time people who work in like the business, and
they come back and tell us all about it, like
we have probably eight nine meetings on it.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
When you were younger and coming into this new money
was there ever like a shock or surprising moment of like,
oh fuck, I'm doing a little too much because you're
just now learning about what taxes are, financial advice, you're
starting to get maybe coach kills checking on you or
your mom. Right They're like, okay, I need I wasn't
seeing this rightway. I thought i'd get all this.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, I give it to my all, to my mom
and she handles it.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
That's nice, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
That's so I don't. I don't. I've never touched a
dime on my nio.

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Speaker 1 (30:00):
When you go to Vandy get in the Nashville for
the first time, You're talking all your new teammates, your
new coaches. They obviously brought in another quarterback who was
making more money than you. Like, what was your you
know first not like welcome to the NFL moment or
like welcome to the SEC, but you feel like you're
in a different league than you were in New Mexico State.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Uh, I don't know if I ever had one. Let
me think, shoot, yeah, I never really had one. I said,
haven't had my welcome to So.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
When you get to practice your first practice fumming in
New Mexico State, go to vanderbel and SEC school. The
speed wasn't different to you. Nothing was different to you.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
No, I thought I was. I felt pretty good the
whole time, and then especially like taking on those trips,
like I was just studying the game a lot more.
But I would say, like maybe the workouts were like
a little bit more intense. But I think our locker
room was or our weight room was bigger at in
Mexico State, so it just gets hotter and the humidity.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, were you second or where were you on the
depth chart when you first got here?

Speaker 2 (31:11):
In my mind or other people's mind, in other.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
People's mind and other people on the whiteboard when you
walk into the quarterback meeting room where you see your
thing at.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
So I obviously I knew the offensive coordinator and he
never put us like one above the other. But I
knew I was gonna win the job. Other people thought
like maybe the other kid was going to win. But
it was like you turn on the tape, it's not
in day.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
How quickly did you know? Because like, this kid's getting
paid more. You didn't know that at the time, but
you figure out he's getting paid more. You guys want
to spring practice. Obviously you're confident, but you're seeing this
kid throw. Was it very quickly realized?

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Okay? It was like it was like, oh yeah, it's
it's beat. But then it was like, okay, I need
to renegotiate my contract if I'm going to be playing
over this kid. You know what I mean? Yeah, but
you can't. Yeah, you can't really do that in the
n C.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
How do you balance all that mentally, like not letting
your ego take over too much? Like when that stuff
is coming.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Up, Shoot, it's like, if I really want it, then
I go to the league. Yeah, I'm gonna get paid
more in the league than in college.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
We have a team eighty years caid, he sit on
the back. You want to hand him a Mike cad.
When did you know it was gonna be he Diego
was gonna win the job? Was it as quick as
he was realizing it?

Speaker 7 (32:24):
Yeah, it was pretty quick. And as an oldligneman, you
get real close to your quarterback. I mean everybody knows
and I think it was honestly during summer workouts and stuff,
just we had a you know, you're you're holding arms
with everybody for team bonding, doing lunges across the field
and everyone we're all a new team, we're all trying
to figure out who's talking, and Diego gets out in

(32:46):
front of everyone's like like everyone shut the fuck up,
like I'm talking right now, like you guys, this is
what we're gonna do. So then that's when it was like,
all right, like this is over before it starts, kind of,
but we knew and like the first time I met
i Go, he had blonde bone.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Tips in his hair, and.

Speaker 7 (33:06):
This kid's either going to be insane or we're a
little fucked. Yeah, you know, its quick as he knew it.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
What's the relationship looks like from both of your perspectives
of you with this other quarterback who comes in essentially
thinks he's gonna start, and then you come in. You're
in team meetings or everyone's locked arms doing lunges, you know,
like this shit's not good enough or whatever the speeches
are you you seeing kind of like little friction or
you pretty cool to the other quarterback.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
There's there's like that competitive friction that you have with
like everyone that you go into a new room with.
But uh, I guess I think he was like like
one time. I'll tell you this story. One time I
cracked a joke and maybe it was an inappropriate joke
and he was loving it when like he was projected
to start, you know what I mean. And I cracked

(33:55):
the same joke when I was starting, and then he
like texted the coaches about and was like hey, like diego,
that was an inappropriate joke by him, Like he needs
to say sorry. And then like I had to call
him and and he's like, bro, that was not cool,
this and that, and it was just like all right.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
So there's two phases of that question. One, you recycle jokes.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, if they're good.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah, we recycled joke. No, no, no, I'm around and
uh and to like to catch right there.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
You know what my my my mind went to, was
you important oy a couple of years ago because you
said a joke to him? Yeah, like hey, and then
at the Super Bowl you did the same thing. He
was like on your asst recycling jokes.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
It was the same day I was. I went over
made a joke I forget what it was, but about
like a jacket or something. Yeah, and one of the
boys was saying about me and they laughed. They've also
kind of heard the joke, but when the boys laughed,
I'm like, all right, I'm gonna take it to a
bigger that was gonna work. Yeah, want to have more people,
you know, this joke solid?

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
I recycled the game with the women.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, I'm some game with the women too. The ship works,
like when he's spent in game. Yeah. Like And so
then Dave obviously jumps on. It's oh, you're recycling jokes.
It's like, that's that's.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
What's what you like, Dave. You haven't said the same
words in the same sentence before ever again. But that's
basically where I got that. What when you weren't starting
what was a joke?

Speaker 5 (35:22):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (35:24):
His uh?

Speaker 2 (35:26):
His girlfriend made something to eat and it was sushi,
and I was like, oh, you're having sushi twice tonight,
huh and he was he was laughing his ass off.
And then I made the joke again. I was like, hey,
what are you happing again? Sushi twice? And then that
was the same joke, and he was like all up
in arms about that.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Yeah, I feel like a quarterback. Oh here, First off, dude,
I love how open you are because you don't get
a lot of quarters but I don't want you to
sit in the team meeting at Vanderbilt the coach and
be like, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
He's gone.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Now he's gone. Now he's gone. Now where's he at?
He's at Utah.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
I mean people could look this up where he's he's
at the utes, Like people even know where this guy is.
That's crazy, that's crazy. That's fucking insane. It's uh started
starting spring camp. You're second the depth chart through in
the depth chart.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Uh, there was like no depth chart, like we were
rotating between three quarterbacks though open competition competition.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
We're all fann and all of you guys transferring from
other schools to Vanderbilt or the transfer there is that
kid still there?

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah, he's actually really talented. He's got a strong arm,
really good. Yeah. I think if he went to like
more of a pro style, like he'd popped more. He's
really good.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
So why why do you think? Have you had that
conversation with him? Like yeah, he's like, hey man, maybe
you go and do this. And what year is he?

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah he's uh he has two more years left. But
that Vanderbilt degree is something. Well, yeah that's really smart kid.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, sure, going like in into the year this year,
were you aware that you were going to get an
extra year at first? Like, what are you hearing? You
have a you have a legendary year Vanderbilt. You guys
exceeded all expectations. You're having a hell of a run.
Like are you talking to NFL? Are you thinking NFL?
Are you thinking I want to get an extra year?
There could be a possibility? Like what was that process

(37:25):
like for you at the end of the season, looking
at the neck this year that we're in.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Now, Yeah, well we beat we beat uh, so we're
tuned too. Then we beat Bam, and then we beat
Kentucky and then like Kentucky game, I got kind of
hurt that big motherfucker Dion Walker just sat on me
and it was like all right, and then I'm kind
of like straggling out the whole year. And so when
it was brought up to me that I could play

(37:49):
possibly play another year, I was like, oh, yeah, let's
do it. So then I just it got filed and
had a really good lawyer and everything worked out.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
It wasn't like were you you weren't even considering the
potential or maybe looking around for the next level yet.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
No, I was I was asking, like coach Lee, like
about agents and things like that and what the you know,
scouts are saying and what they wanted to see. But
it was just I think, in my favorite to get
two years under the SEC under my belt and then no,
we win the national Championship and I win the Heisman,
then there's no there's no reason why I don't get drafted.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
First round based on the feedback that you heard from
the next level, Like what chip on your shoulder do
you have? Now? Like what what things were you hearing?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
They said, I need to get uh maybe better as
a passer, say in the pocket, don't leave as much,
and so I need to work the pocket more.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Okay, do you agree with that criticism or do you
think that well, I.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Could get better at everything. But I mean we had
a lot of a lot of play calls to you know,
roll outside the pocket for you know, they got the
like Dylan Stewart, off the edges is really.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Good, James Pearce is off the edge is really good.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
So I think doing little things to make sure those
guys get off my back and then just let me
make plays that ac like that's where I'm best at
making plays.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Yeah. Improv Yeah, improvisation on the field, yep. When did
you realize that you had that that capability to take
the ex's and o's of a play. It's drawn up
a certain way in a whiteboard, but you can extend
plays and figure it all.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Out little league football. I have some pretty nice tape
in little league football. Nasty, Yeah, some nasty tapes. But
I think that's when I figured it out. And then
just having the confidence that I do and then installing
it in like the guys around me, and then you
become unstoppable.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
How as a guy who's pissing them on a logo
back in New Mexico State and you have, you know,
the stories of the ago and all the fun one
that you have on the field, shit talking and everything else.
How do you feel like you've approached maybe this year,
whether it's a little bit differently because you could be

(40:08):
going to the professional level and you being a little
bit more conscious about everything that you're doing. Do you
feel like you've had, you know, a moment to where
you've kind of reflected on things and thinking like, hey,
the act is awesome, it's a lot of fun, but
I also got to kind of put my head down
to work a little bit more because it is a
bit of an uphill battle at times.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Right. Yeah, I've actually done a lot of reflecting on
how I could get better. One is being in the
training room more. I'm always around the facility. Like I
get there. I wake up at five every morning, wake
my bed, you know, pray to God, and then like
I'm in the facility by about six fifteen, and I
don't lead to about six. So I'm just doing everything

(40:46):
I can possible to stay healthy for the season. Another
thing too, was like sometimes when I say I would party,
I mean that I would have a good time, you know,
laugh with my friends. I don't I rarely drink, be
lying if I said I didn't drink, but I rarely drink.
And so like those staying up late affecting me for Sunday,

(41:07):
which roll over to Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then it
was just like a trickle effect. Yeah, so like I
feel like, uh, Sunday, once I get home after the game,
I needed, you know, stretch, get in my little thing
after the game on Saturday, and then be ready to
go for the next week.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Yeah, it's gotta be hard to when you're when you're
doing things at Vanderbilt that haven't been done in a
long time. You're essentially reviving an entire you know, program, and.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Guys are goal post down.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
That was where I was getting good and go with that,
Like you beat Alabama and you take the goal post
and you marsh that thing all the way down to
the Cumberland River, Like what where were you doing that?

Speaker 5 (41:42):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Are you ral rushing the field? Get in the locker room, like, hey,
let's speed up this speech. I gotta go a little
bit of fun because that's a long ass way down
the Broadway. Yeah it is.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
My My brothers and my family are like really crazy,
like crazy in a good way. But like and I'll
tell you guys the story of how crazy they are.
But like they were like, bro, hurry that ship up,
like we got a fucking bounce. We they they literally
Sunday the day after they literally opened the bar and
ended the bar like until it was closed, and it

(42:14):
was just like, bro, these guys are wild, you know
what I mean? So like, obviously you want to join
them in stuff, but you got responsibilities. So that's what
makes it Like, that's what makes it hard. Obviously they're
only in town for like a few days and then
they go back. Yeah, but I mean we had some
really good times this year. For sure.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
How was that night? Kay, you can talk about it too.
But the night you guys do beat Alabama and take
them down and the city is just absolutely on fire.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Uh we all went to Broadway.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Let's pretend we're all retired. Just pretend we're all retired. Sure, yeah,
relived the glory day taking down the Crimson Tide.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Just a team that's won, you know, forty one of
those forty three national championship, Like.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
It was a good time.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
You get the twelve yard game. The game is over, games,
manor beilt. Fans are on the fields. They du Hey,
let's live in reality. Like you guys are playing away
games at home, and that's changing because of you guys.
Like people are juicy fucking.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Look at that kid he's getting after right there. I
love it, dude, seventeen.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
This kid he's got the same size legs as me.
He's getting after it. Bro. But I'm just saying, like,
these fans storm the field. You are you are now
probably realizing like we've done something for the first time ever.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, but this is incredible as Foster. You win just
a fucking massive game. The vibes are absolutely psychotic, psychotic.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
I really didn't, I really didn't. It didn't hit me
until like a week a week after like like maybe
we have to beat Kentucky or something like. It really
didn't hit me until then. But that night was it
was jumping for sure. I mean we we went all
went to barstool. The whole top was rented out for us.

(44:01):
You know, we stood up so late that night and
then they thought we're gonna lose to Kentucky. Beat them
the next week too, but it that's that's when I
got hurt. But I feel like God kind of gave
me a signal right there. It was like, hey, you
can't just go out and party when you have a
big wins, like I'm gonna give you more big wins,
just you can't part like that. And so that that's

(44:23):
like for this year, you know what I mean, that's
why he gave me another year. Yeah, so it's get
it right this time.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
I was the experience from from your vantage point, because
you know, offensive linemen, they're like, we're getting the fuck
we're getting after this.

Speaker 7 (44:35):
But yeah, it was good. I don't even know if
he knows this, but I lasted an hour and a
half at the bar, like it was a quick night
for me, and that doesn't happen very often. And so
I was getting after it pretty hard, but not like
the field rush stuff. Like he was probably the calmest

(44:55):
in the huddle, which is surprising. Once he got that
first down, it was there was some kind of there
was some antics on the field everybody knows about, but uh,
we were kind of all the huddle.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
About no buddy, did the shove or kicked the ball,
hit the ball?

Speaker 3 (45:08):
We had the ball kid?

Speaker 7 (45:10):
Yeah, yeah, the push in the face. And I had
only played that drive, Like I sat for three and
a half hours the whole game and then got in
on the on the four minute drive to get the
first downs to win the game against the number one
ranked team, and I was like, oh shit, like you know,
my knees hurt already hitting in the stance. Yeah, and
so all the antics whatever, he gets the first down,

(45:32):
face pushed in the ground. I kind of ran after
it a little bit, but like we got back in
the huddle, He's like, all right, right, all right, Like
we got to get this snap, We got to get
this snap because it's victory, and he was the most
calm one. And then the field rush went to the
locker room and everyone's like in the locker room like,
all right, let's let's get out of here. We got
some stuff to handle.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Yeah, dude, talk to me about the emotion of a
field rush, Like as a player, I only had to
experience that, I think one time, and that's when we
beat Ohio State. And it is like the most electric
feeling in the entire world. When all the fans are
on the field, they're jumping, they're grabbing you, they're pulling you.
You essentially feel like like the biggest star in the
world for a moment. Like what was that like for

(46:15):
you guys?

Speaker 2 (46:17):
It was nuts. I had all my boys there too.
I wasn't trying to lose that football right there. And
then uh n I l Now like I my jersey
sold for like forty thousand, that jerseys.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Yeah, why don't you keep the jersey?

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Huh? I should have?

Speaker 7 (46:45):
You know the guy that has it though, right?

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Yeah? Yeah, it's what like it's one of those guys
that though and he's good people do.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
He's a good guy, good enough guy to give it
back to you.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Uh, there's one one way to find out.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Yeah, yeah, for forty one dollars. Good man?

Speaker 1 (47:05):
What uh? What was for you your best freestyle, most
memorable style play for yourself where you kind of went
off the went off the whiteboard and made something happen
the coaches weren't expecting it. Uh.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
At New Mexico State, we're playing against utub and it's
like two minute drill and I call my own play
and I do all Berts and I'm thinking IM about
to hit this seam up to Eli, but like the
safety closed it, so I spin out. I'm rolling left
full speed. This kid comes our boy, So if we're
going that way, he comes back and then goes back

(47:41):
and I do like a forty yard dime on the
money over the shoulder and he just he just gets cracked.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Let's fucking go, dude. What kay for you? What's this
man like in the huddle? Any moments that stand out?

Speaker 7 (47:58):
Yeah, So my first play of the Alabama game like
stands out to me of all of them. We're on
the goal line and we're running one of our our
goal line run schemes and it's a two play scheme,
so we're either running one player or the other, and
we hear it because of the cadence, we know which
play we're running. And it was my first play of
the game. And he's tired as hell from the you know,

(48:20):
the drive before, and so he's like.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Ready break, and I was like.

Speaker 7 (48:28):
All right, so I kind of just followed the guy
I knew I needed to follow, and uh, I think
I just down blocked because I didn't know the play.
But that's normally like how he is. Is normally really calm,
normally really collected, like all right, guys like got to
get the first year whatever, prey this quarterback stuff. You know,
they got to command the huddle. But that play stands
out to me just because he's spitting everywhere, and you know,

(48:50):
I had no idea what the play was.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Got to get the shit out, make some checks when
we get to the line.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Do you have uh, do you have moments that stand
down in the huddle?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
We have a we have a funny guy who like
talks ship. His name is Chase Mitchell, but he stutters
a lot, so he's like that boy, you have fuck
with me. But like so that I'd just be laughing
and then like, uh, but nah, I'm usually like pure business,

(49:25):
trying to get the guys in and out so I
like make checks. It's game time. This shit ready to go.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
How much after the year was the portal blowing up
for you on potential teams wanting you to come be
the quarterback for them at a different school A lot?

Speaker 2 (49:38):
It was like, yeah, it was less reaching out to me.
It was like more reaching out to like my brothers
and my family and stuff.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Was there a dollar amount that you heard that was
like holy shit?

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Uh yeah, I don't know if I'm supposed to share,
but like anywhere from like four to four point five.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
To leave and go somewhere to leave? What will conference?

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Sect in conference?

Speaker 1 (50:04):
In conference teams trying to get you.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
You want to play with the best. You don't want
to play with the Big ten. You ignore those.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Class two national titles, your calls, you know that the whole.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
But you got to think about this, dude. The SEC
is like nothing like okay, the Big ten. You have
like the house state Oregon. It's Michigan, Michigan, Penn State, Michigan,
Penn State.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Yeah you believe after this year in Nebraska, I got
you kids.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah, we will see, but we just got to you
got all dogs, So like you really only have four
games a year like the SC. It's like week after
week after like you're gonna get beat on like the
Big Ten. You ain't gonna get beat on with like
the per Dude.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
You like that's a bullshit comment, like a week after
week like that's that's that's real though. Listen, I'm here
to have a I'm here to have a clean podcast,
not here to talk too much ship to start it off,
I don't want to. I don't want to shoot on
any SEC teams.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
But you guys would have your hands full of Illinois.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Oh yeah, Illinois is a good team.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Yeah they are.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
It's a good ball club. What about us, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
They are, buddy us C.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Yeah, USC is a tough team. I haven't Washington, Washington, Iowa.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
You're gonna you've gotta score seven points it beat Iowa.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
It's gonna be a tough seven.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Guys. You guys program Iowa resurrected an extinct cornerback, Like
that is you want to talk about who can achieve more?
I mean, here's there's a cornerback in the NFL that's
white right now. I don't know I know a couple
of them were thinking.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
About Riley Moss.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Now Regenia is good, you know, ship, But I'm saying,
like you have to like the trenches too, the different
the trenches. Let's think about this football are from the
SEC except like abdo card, like you'll find one, like

(52:22):
you'll have one or.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Two third overall pick this year.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yeah, but like you got if the kid from South
Carolina could have left, would have been a first round pick.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we saw him at a immediate day
is the super Bowl? He he looked a part. Yeah,
he looked the part. Who was who was, in your mind?
The best defense he played against all year.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
The best defense Texas. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
I was at that game. Bummed you guys couldn't make
it out.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that kid Michael taff Is, he's good.
He's like an elite. But you know those white kids
who are going to be the right right play, right time,
it's that kid always going to be in the right spot.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Great technique, great technique.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Yeah, well he'll be perfect, perfect sound perfect.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
I will say this. I thought, man, that Asu Texas
game in the playoffs, I thought, as you should have
won that game. I know they should have won that game.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
I don't like how people should on Quinn the Ewers us.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
I don't like that either.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Quinn Hewers is a solid quarterback.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
I don't think anybody was saying that we I don't
think we were shopping on Quinn.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
No, no, no, no, I'm just saying, like, I think
he's just bringing this out of his own back. He's
thought about this for a minute. He's like, I got
to make sure I say this.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
No, no, like he went seventh round like he should have.
You got to think about Texas before Quinn, you know
what I mean, Like they were winning too many games.
Then Quinn goes and now they're in the like possibly
the championship. If he doesn't get strips sacked right.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Right against a Big ten football team, here he goes.
I'm just dude.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
I mean that's a fact.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
That is the fact. Against a d ND who was
drafted in the third round.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
He's good. There's a lot of good players in the
Big ten too.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
I don't know, there's some good ball players in this seed.
There's no doubt about it. I'm what the main thing
is is now that everybody can get paid, we definitely equalized.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
There's a lot more parody in the game now.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Yes, absolutely, it's two and two, so it's equal right now, as.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
We'll find out this year. That's right, Vanderbilt twenty twenty six, right,
I guess it would be twenty twenty six National.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Chains in Miami.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
What are your Obviously there's a lot of discussion around
the College Fable Playoff in the format, like what would
you what would be your critiques for the College Fable Playoff?
You want to see it go to sixteen.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
I think that the as he's seeing, the Big ten
should obviously get the four bids regardless, and then they
could do whatever they want from there.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
And you like, you like how they structured it as like,
you know, if you win your conference, you don't automatically
get a by They're kind of just they're kind of
seeded it true now right?

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Yes? Yeah? I like that.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Yeah, I think the bags end needs to change. Is
right after conference championships, you go right in two the
next week has the first round. We don't need this
three weeks or whatever it is, Like, let's have all
of December and let's knock this shit out.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Is this their schedule right here? Sure? How do you
feel about your guys' schedule this year?

Speaker 2 (55:13):
You got Great South.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Carolina, Alabama at South Carolina at Alabama, Virginia.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Got Charleston Southern, We got Virginia Tech, South Carolina, Georgia State,
Utah State, every game any given Sunday, Editing Giving Saturday.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Really, I mean, what happened in Georgia State. How you
guys put on a season like that last year and
you have a you know the laughs that you guys did,
and shit happens.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
They came out and they punched us first, and then
we had to lead like seventeen seconds up to go
and do a bomb touchdown. I guess sixty yard bomb.
We have about like three.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
When you look at the schedule, like you said, you know,
every single week you're going out at blah blah blah.
You gotta play at Alabama, at Tennessee, at Texas, at
South Carolina, at South Carolina, sandstorm, Sandstorm. Playing that place
gets rowdy, sleeper place to play, sleeper place. How many

(56:19):
of these games are you coming out? Twelve games that I.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Was thinking about asking, but since he said National Championship earlier,
I'm like he's gonna say.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Twelve and oh yeah, who do you okay, who do
you think is which one of these games is like circle,
do you like this is?

Speaker 2 (56:32):
I gotta make sure I don't want to give the
pony no field. What do they see that?

Speaker 3 (56:37):
I think at this point we've already gotten past that.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
I think every school knows they need to have their
cameras on at all time. Yeah, if Diego is in
town the day before game game three, Game three, oh
doude do we say it? I don't even know we
can say.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
I mean, people can go look South Carolina, this is
a podcast, it'll be out to the world.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
They'll be tough year man. Yeah, he got a squad.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
I mean, after what you did to Alabama too, Like,
you better keep your head in a swivel down in Tuscaloosa.
I don't know if you like there's a chance you
might not make it to the game. The fans go
crazy out there.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Yeah, well, I got my brothers with me. We're good.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Do you feel like you feel like you guys have
more respect in college football right now? Like, do you
feel like there's a little bit more pressure that's kind
of come with this year?

Speaker 5 (57:22):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Nah, Like it's just as long as we get better
in our like detail, we'll be fine. Like we're really
just worried about us right now, Like we don't really
care about what other people say or anything like that.
Like everyone just focused internally.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Yeah, people could be San Diego. One one hit wonder,
one good year might be all he has. Right, we're
gonna put him in his place this year.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
There's enough film on him. We see what he does.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
We know tendency to shut him down.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Right, gets a little loose with the ball and he
rolls out to the left.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Yeah, he's probably gonna try to stay in the pocket
a little bit more this year because he's been here
in the fluff At the next.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Time, scout say you have to sit in the pocket,
don't worry. We'll condense the pocket contained rush him.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
This one. Games at the middle from Juco and New
Mexico State, right.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Boys, the kids from New Mexico. Well, you can count
your hand how many guys have come out of there. Yeah,
that's what they're saying in team meeting rooms right now
that you circled, and it's it's a picture of frosted
tips too, it's not it's Diego.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Yeah, how many things, guys? How many teams are in
the sec and right now it looks like your guys's
power rankings in the SEC. You're you're predicted at thirteenth.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
It's probably some fat guy who sits on a computer
all day.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Damn. Josh Paid is in good shape.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
Josh Paid is, He's got the shoulders in the chest
on him.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
So what do you think about when you see stuff
like that? Like, I know it's just noise, but when
you're at home and you're kind of going through some
of this.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Ship, I really don't. I've never seen this sight before.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
What is this seven?

Speaker 7 (58:52):
Now?

Speaker 2 (58:52):
It's two for seven? We used to have, Uh, our
guy Barton Simmons used works for two percents, but like
I don't mistake them for it because like real players
fuck up too. So okay, let'll just find out after
Do you.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Talk to me about the sea on your chest?

Speaker 2 (59:09):
The sea?

Speaker 3 (59:09):
The sea captain going from the Mexico State transferter Vanderbilt.
You're earning these guys trusts. What was that process like
for you?

Speaker 2 (59:18):
It was actually really dope, Like, uh, you know, taking
out the alignment to eat and stuff is, uh, is
really cool. And then you like just knowing the guys,
like everyone comes out from like a unique background and
you find out like things about these guys, like you
know some of them well now like a lot of us,
uh not us. I don't have a kid, but a
lot of them have kids and stuff, and you gotta

(59:38):
meet their kids and bring them around and this, like
it's just really cool to like earn their trust.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Where are we taking them? Could? Could he do better?
Could he do better? On how you treat you?

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Guys?

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Have you heard a mile? Yes, we went to see
good a mile. We went to see you go to
mile twice and then we were supposed to edit go
to Eddie V's this past weekend, but not a lot
of the guys could go.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
So you haven't gotten these boys a little room. It
came prime or up up at Bourbon Steak. I'm trying
to work for.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
You right now. Can I told you other schools were
offering me a four million, not Vandy? You said, what
other schools are offering me four million? Not bandy? Dude?

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Hey legit? So we ever flirting with the idea leaving Vanderbilt?

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
No, I never flirted with it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Maybe for a moment, one.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Moment you saw the number.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
I mean the number. The number is great, like the
numbers are great, but like winning is is more important
to me than anything, and we get the squad to
go do it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
When you're breaking it down with your agent or whoever
your representation is, or you're talking with the coaches, how
uncomfortable does it get at times? Like you you might
hear the rumors are four million, and it's like, you know,
we're all in the game of business a little bit
more now, and it's like, you want to leverage the number?
How much should I try and leverage the number and
get to a spot that I feel comfortable? I don't
want to piss anybody off? Like how is that going

(01:01:04):
for you? Mentally? When you are in that process of potentially,
you know, them feeling like you could potentially leave.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Right it was? It was difficult for sure, because like
you got coach Kill and coach Beck like relying on
you to come back, and then but it's like all
the money game. And then like you got other schools
offering you four million and they don't want to pay
you four million, but you're like all right, but like
you took a chance on me, so like I understand that,

(01:01:30):
and then freaky OUs and say something too like, uh,
they they told me the things that I wanted to
hear of how they're gonna build the offense. You know
what receivers are gonna go get. And they were telling
me like, we could pay we could pay you that,

(01:01:50):
but we're not gonna have enough money to go get
these guys to go throw the ball around. And it
just made sense to me, Like, man, I value winning
over anything else. So how perfect?

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
How well did they do going and getting some of
these pieces that they were talking to you about?

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Really good? Yeah, I guess like playing with a new
toy every day, you just throw the ball as far
as you can't you have some fast little black kid
to just fucking catch it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Washington Post is gonna salivate over this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Yeah, Washington Post, New York Times. I got him again.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Uh, dude, Jerry Kill, you talked about him being like
a father figure to you. What about Jerry Kill? Was
like it helps you guys connect so much, And do
you have like a Jerry Kill store that you're like,
this dude's the fucking man. Kate was telling me. He
offered me he was in Nevada when I was high school. No, No,
that was coach k coach Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
This guy's this guy's a nut job. Like he's just
one of us, just the older version, you know what
I mean. He don't care what anyone thinks about him.
He don't care about anything. I would say New Mexico
State when he was the head coach, like he had
all the power in the world. Like I remember, this
is this story exact. We were in like a like

(01:03:03):
a team meeting, and after that it was like the
first day of fall camp. We're getting done team meeting.
We go out there and you know, we get done practicing.
This kid has a full body cramp and he's like,
where's the fucking trainer at And the trainer, uh didn't
have ivs. They couldn't give ivs for some reason in
Mexico State. He fired the trainer, the equipment staff, and uh,

(01:03:28):
like one of the board of directors at New Mexico
State that day. And then like he was like having
to do he hired basically the coaches to like serve
out equipment, hired uh people just to like give out
water and stuff. So he fired someone like on the
spot that day, first.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Day because he was catching a full body cramp. But
there's nowhere to say.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
It, and there was no no one to give him
an IV man at least.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Have some pickle juice on you or something, you know,
But he's just anytime I hear body cramp, I just
think of the story of, Uh, there's a guy in
the locker room who just as a joke kept a
box of condoms in the locker, and somebody's like, hey,
why do you keep a box of condoms in the
locker And he just looked over and he goes, You
never know when somebody's gonna catch a full body cramp

(01:04:11):
and be spas on the locker room floor.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Just out of the glimpse inside of the locker room, folks.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
That is a wild story. Wild.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
The full body crams are just awful when you reflect
on just your entire journey, like again, underdog story, Juco
route no offers, small schools, go to Vanderbilt, all of
this stuff you were talking about wrestling earlier, but overall,
like a general like a general thought, when you pull
yourself out, what do you feel like separate you mentally

(01:04:46):
in the details when you look back, whether it's playing
through injuries or examples you see from other guys, like
what things do you feel like have separated you mentally
to get in the spot that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
You're in now when I when I turn on the tape,
and I want people to know that I'm the you know,
the best person ever touched like the blade of grass,
Like I'm going to be the best no matter what.
When you turn on the table, it's like, Okay, this
kid right here is the best player on the football
team right here, both sides of the ball. And so
that's that's what I want. Is just not even be

(01:05:17):
like compared. I want to be good on it and
it's like one of the greats. Like I feel like
I have that mama mentality of three workouts a day
or else you like cheated yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
When you look back and think if times were extremely
hard and you possibly thought I'm never quitting, but where
you doubted yourself and everything else, Like is there a
moment or a phase of life that kind of stands
out that you fall through that you look back on
You're like, I'm fucking happy I pushed through that moment.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Yeah, Juco was hard for sure, Juco COVID. You know
there's only two people allowed in a dorm. Probably this big,
maybe even smaller if you cut this down and you
know it's you and your guy and it's just the struggle,
like you weren't able to leave, no one could see you.

(01:06:04):
And then those those times were tough. You're winging at
five am. But then like you think about it, like
you're you're with your brothers through the grind, so it's like, cool.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Who are you leaning on in like those times like
are you somebody who like you know, you're scrolling and
consuming videos, you're reading something. Is it your mom? Is
it your staff when you're kind of having those moments
of hey, I need to feel like I needed some
inspiration or motivation.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Honest truth. Uh my ex girlfriend was like, shit, she
don't want me bet I'm gonna go harder. And it
was just like I'm super serious like in juco and
still like to this day, Like my boy uh, my
boys would tell you, like it was like once I
got under that bar, it was like it was beef.

(01:06:49):
You know, obviously not with my girlfriend, but like like
it was like fuck, like shit, she didn't want you,
like take that shit personal. But that's one of the
reason why I go so to I.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Feel like the mentality of the athlete, but it's taking
whatever happens in your life that didn't necessarily go your way.
Big ways are little ways. But it's like, all right,
at that to the tank.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
That's how I look at it too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
I feel like he's got the most wrestling brain I've
ever seen.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
A football player.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Yeah, a football player.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
If you don't want me put a forty five.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
She said what we were laughing about.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
You know how those like you know how wrestlers just
get down and just go hard their house parties where
they're in their shirts off, they got the bags on.
They might you know, there's a few guys got their
girlfriends in there and they're just you know, making a
beer pong shot.

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
Just.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Just over for no reason.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
She's got her next.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
After everything they do, they go hard, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Dashing up your boys and you start getting in an
over all of a sudden, your hips are back.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Is out to see.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Just before they think that takes place. Yeah, still got it.
I assue, how do you think he's fair in wrestling
right now?

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
The way a man? Probably not, But I would like
go down like one seventy fours I then do pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Yeah, you think you'd have been a good wrestler in
college yeah, but I didn't because you were were used
to you were a state champ, right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Yeah, it was state champ my senior year. Okay, yeah,
but I didn't love it. Yeah, he knows some of
these shots. I like you Arizona. Arizona, everyone's like right
next to New Mexico.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
Yeah, but it's well, I mean we can the population
is like more than double, and we also have like
a better sports state Baseball football, that's just fat. I
mean New Mexico.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
We might be better at baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
Bro, like Arizona cats play ball out there. That's a
year round, I mean, just like New Mexico, but like
cats come out of there. Even hockey, now we got
hockey players.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
What about wrestling? I think we might be better at
I think baseball, soccer.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
I'm not very uh I could see soccer. I'm not
I'm not up to date on like wrestling. My wrestling
education comes through Will Compton. Like I see that he
talks about Cody and I just I've wrestled all three times.
I've lost every time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
We'll be in there watching March mad It will be
in there watching March Madness, and I'll have the the
of the wrest the years.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Yeah, this year, So who's your favorite wrestler?

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Oh man? I mean honestly, I just root for the
boys from Nebraska, Okay, Like I knew a lot more
about it when when when when my brother was doing it,
Like when we were in college together, Like Jordan Burrows
was from Nebraska and he was like when Cody came
in as a freshman. They were the same weight, so
they were they were both wrestling partners and everything else.
Like James Green came a little bit after Cody. So

(01:09:43):
that generation of wrestling is when I knew it the most.
I don't know it as well anymore. I just enjoy
every year when the conference championships come on, you know
when they're when the National Championships are going on. The
n C double as. My dad took me to one,
me and my brother to one back when we were young,
when it was in Saint Louis and we got to
see brock lesnar senior year and you're seeing him do

(01:10:05):
his little jump, his jumps back and forth before he
goes out and beats the boy from it was he
was at Minnesota. The kid, the dude from Iowa beats
him four to two in the finals in the place
just he roughs.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Did you see Gable Stevenson loss?

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Yes, bro insane, that's sick, insane, But like you know,
and it's like the head coaches of these of these
teams now got like Kyle Sanderson of course, Mark Manning.
I've always been a massive fan of him, tight end
with him. And you see like David Taylor getting in
the circle. Just seeing guys from again like that generation
kind of whether they're on the staff now. But as

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far as individuals, I don't know as much about him anymore.
I more just support like I support the university, like
Nebraska the hell of a year this year, even though
who was at Penn State's like miles ahead of everybody.
So everybody always kind of competes for that second that
second spot, whether it's Iowa, Oklahoma State. So I just
kind of enjoy I just enjoy watching wrestling.

Speaker 5 (01:11:00):
NA.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
That's super dope.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Yeah, because you got a couple you were just talking
about one of your boys.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
That's yeah, real woods. He's about to go to the
final X he wins this tournament, and that's this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
If everybody listening, We're recording on Thursday, the twelfth, So
when this comes out, it'll be on Tuesday, so the
match will have already happened. But your boys, he's going
to compete this weekend Real Woods. Yeah, at Final X
in New Jersey, and if he wins, he's gonna be
on the Olympic Olympic team.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Yeah, that's sick man, So rooting for him. I hope
he wins. He's gonna win. He's gonna win.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Well, who's your fvorite wrestler?

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
I was telling him how I don't really as far
as like individuals now, I'm not as privy to everybody
who wrestles now. I'm more just like follow a lot
of guys back from the generation that I was kind
of just around how their coaches now, and I more
so just support the Huskers and you're always knowing about
Penn State and who the good teams are.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
What about UFC favorite UFC fighter?

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
I mean our boy, we'll buy some of their boy.
Mike Chandler missed the O'Connor McGregor. We just watched Sean
O'Malley and Morob over the weekend and Morob is a psychopath.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
Yeah, he's gonna be a cat. That's a champion for
a long, long time man.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Else do you have?

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
Who is the cat that fought week John Jones?

Speaker 5 (01:12:16):
I know?

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
But John Jones is so up in the air. Is
he gonna Is he gonna come back two three years off?

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Every time he fights like crazy though, like bro he is.
I mean, it's been said by Dan He's the goat.
He's a goat.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
I'm sick that d C. Daniel Cormier never got his
like a legit rematch shot against him.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Daniel Cormier was going to beat John.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
Maybe not, maybe not, but you would like to see
like a little bow tie put on that have it.
I'll be done.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
But who is the PD thing came out when the
spect d H D?

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
John? John's the goat?

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
John is John?

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
John Jones is awesome, but you just never know when
he's gonna get in the octagon again.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
I remember when COVID was happening in New Mexico and
I went back to Albuquerque and there was like riots
going downtown, people breaking glass doors, getting into jewelry stores.
John Jones went downtown, whooped a few fucker's ass and
put it into all that ship.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
That's insane.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Who's your outside of John Jones. Who's your favorite fighter?

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
I like Amanda Nunia Is I know she's coming back.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
Yeah, just find that girl that show?

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Is it Kayla Harris?

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
I think so that sound that sounds about right. But
she put on a performance this last weekend, like she
was very impressive. It'll be interesting to see a man
in noonst taking that much time off. Essentially gets inducted
the Hall of Fame last International Fight Week and then
says so I'm gonna come back for one more. But
that Kaylea, if that is her name, I don't want
to suck it up. Her quote of being like I
got the belt you at the Legacy, it's put it
on the table. Yeah, damn, that's a bar. Yeah, that's

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a bar realized. I mean you've been tow UFC. I
saw you a Madison Square regarden. Like it's electric, dude,
it's just being a part of it. Being around it
is awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Well, how does it feel for you guys? You guys
are like with like Trump and stuff, like they set
us to the like, uh, where all the fighters were?

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
You guys were like Trump And it feels insane, like
they'll not be sitting there and we just look over
like what the fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
There's definitely a level of imposter syndrome, like we we
shouldn't be said this. Yeah, it really just goes down to,
like the relationship with Dana, and you get around these people,
you don't have like an asshole like you just try
to be as respectful as possible, but like the people
you get to sit next to in these fights and
essentially network and talk to and be around like it's
you're seeing extremely powerful people come under one roof.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
Yeah, and you're just like, uh, enjoying the moment of
being that close to the fucking the fucking octagon.

Speaker 7 (01:14:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Yeah, like the the you know, you hear the punches,
you feel the punches, you just feel the entire environment.
When the lights go off and it's just a spotlight
on the octagon. You hear the walk and you feel
walking around the cage. It's like you feel the breathing,
you see the corners going on when they give it
their corners. It's uh, it's sick man.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
I'll tell you what a really cool uh situation to
be in is the fights at the Apex. Because the
Apex are these up and coming fighters that are right
next to the UFC facility, but it's like quiet. You
can hear the punches landing. You can actually hear people
talking when you when the fights are between rounds, you
can put a headset on and listen to what the
coaches are saying to the fighter. Yeah, what the corners

(01:15:30):
are talking about. Like it's a very cool, intimate setting.
It's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Yeah. Yeah, And it's like we're all fans of Joe
Rogan the podcast, but Joe Rogan the UFC commentator going
out there to interview. You've seen the referees that you
recognize because they're at every fight, Bruce Buffer doing his
announcements and intros. It's just it is insane being that close.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
To And the more you're around it too, like the
more like people are recognizing you, like the Bruce Buffer is,
the Rogans and types of things where it's like, yeah,
we're all kind of like in one way or another
part of this little community now and it's just all.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Yeah, and you'll you like watch Bruce Buffer. I'll be
watching before fight since kind of just like looking over
and seeing like what he does, and you just see
how he's getting like hyped up and stretch has got
got like his little note cards that you see him
like refer to and look at, but you just see
him locking in like he's about to actually fight.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
It is awesome, dude, just to be a part of
all that. I mean, this last fight, we were in
Saint Louis at doing Anazra Bush Foreman or game. Yeah, yeah,
the Cardinal game. And then we get on a plane.
Yeah we can talk about that in a second. We
had on Dana's plane with him and fly to Newark,
and it's just like you're sitting on this plane with

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his group of group of people, are group of people,
and it's just like this is this is fucking awesome?

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Is that the life?

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
It's this.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
There's Yeah, Dana is one of those cats too where
I mean, he's not a bad thing you can say
about if you actually know Dana person I've heard you
would never say one bad thing about how giving he is.
Like he'll into a room. I say this all the time,
but if whoever he knows the most, he'll talk to
the last, Like he walked in this room right now,
he'd go up to everybody first before sitting down talking
to me. Will and even Jack, like Jack's been around

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him over a dozen times now, and it's like he
makes you feel like you are all great for us.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
You're like, you'll have these moments, will be going on
and say, like you're on the plane or whatever it is,
or in any of these rooms and you just might
look over and you make out of contact with Jack
or something. You're just like, what the fuck is going on?

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
Because we decided to start a podcast. Yeah, like in
the back of some bullshit. Yeah, it's just it's crazy.
It always gives you a reason to have gratitude and
just reflect and how awesome this shit is. It's awesome, man,
it is cool.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Throughout the convo, boys, anything pop up that you want
to go back to with Diego.

Speaker 6 (01:17:47):
One thing I wanted to ask is you'll have some
new tools, some new weapons this year. Who's somebody that's
unknown right now that you think is gonna make a
big name for themselves?

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Good questions.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
We got this new running back from New Mexico State. MK,
where's number twenty two? He's like that, you guys will
see it Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
So MK, you played with that New Mexico.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
I played with it when he was a fresh last year.
He was a freshman, and then his real names of
Kylin Young. But he's a freshman in New Mexico State
and everyone knew like that kid is he's different. Yeah,
and then he got his chance. He had he had
his kid, and then so he took a year off
last year and then he came this year and he
took it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Didn't play last year.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Yeah, yeah, he didn't play last year.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Oh no, ship, Yeah to have a kid, Jack, I
see you, I got a mic.

Speaker 5 (01:18:39):
I'm not I'm I'm a Tennessee fan. We're not. I'm
not gonna take it there. You seem like a good dude.
I actually wanna give you something. I have something in
my car, so I'm gonna hop up the bus and
grab it. And it literally might be like, what the
fuck is this? And it's not like a gag gift.
I'm gonna go grab it, so pause, But it's actually
I think it's kind of cool, Like it's actually so
just give me some all right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
While Jack's grabbing his non gag gift that everyone thinks
it's gonna everyone's gonna think it's kind of cool. You
got one.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
I kind of want to ask since Jack's off the bus. Yeah,
you guys feel like we want Vandy to be the
States the state squad. Yeah, but you're an intern. You
can't you know, don't speak less spoken Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Van is gonna run Tennessee after this year, Like this
is gonna be the new staple of like college foot
what's gonna happen here at Vanderbilt?

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
Do any of you and the boys ever like talk
about that, Like we gotta be the fucking state school. Well,
we're in Nashville, Tennessee, like if we're in the music city,
Like we need to be the brand of Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Everyone wants to come to Tennessee because of Nashville, So
they want to come to Nashville. So Vanderbilt and then
when we have like the most money in nil like
why not come here? So like we literally just have
to win this year and throughout the rest of the
year take care of itself.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
You think Vandy will have the most money in the
game or.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
I think we'll be up there. Yeah, but like Snashville,
there's a.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Lot of big hitters around here. Yeah, you need a
team to believe in.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
Yeah, that's all they need.

Speaker 5 (01:20:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Yeah, what's up Jack?

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Hey, what was up with your pitch?

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
Yeah? How about that?

Speaker 5 (01:20:18):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Was that even a pitch?

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
No, I mean counts one oh? Right, counts one oh.
I've been out every single day after this podcast. You're
not gonna go toss the ball around a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
I don't know. I might get like concussed or something.
What do you mean, flying all over?

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
Flying all over? But you got a glove and you're
an athlete. I know what's about New Mexico.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
If it hits like the roof and then falls down.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Hits him on the head, can guess.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
If it hits you on the head and you can
cuss after that, then you're not who you thought you were.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
Okay, that's fair to say.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
But I'll tell you, hey, you get some legal advice
because you can probably well, don't do that because then
it's on bust.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Yeah. No, no, I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
I was.

Speaker 5 (01:21:01):
I was at a camp out and we were using
newspaper to start fires, and all of a sudden, I
see this this paper. I wish it'd have been a
Tennessee player because I think this would be something that's
super cool to get framed. I was gonna give it
to my friend's dad, who's a Anty fan. But since
you are the person in this I think it's cool.
You literally can throw it away. But I thought it
was kind of dope. But it's like positive powers through
all and like.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Just that is fucking hard.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
So if you keep that, that is.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
I think. I think it's better coming from a Tennesseean.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
So look, this is We're still gonna have the rivalry.

Speaker 7 (01:21:32):
But I hope the best for you and hope you
have a successful career.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
So I appreciate that. I think.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
One that's big.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
That's big of you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
Which camera show this camera here?

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
That is badass. It's bigger than the game, bigger than
the game, one hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:21:59):
Corrupt. I like question, yeah, Diego, as you know, bud
light is absolutely incredible and anyone would do anything for
a bud Light. But what's one thing Diego Pavia would
do anything for it? Can't say family.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
I'd bite an ear off to win the national championship.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Okay, hell yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
You would, Mike Tyson. Somebody does it matter the ear? No,
anybody's ear. You'd bite myne ear off.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
Would you let somebody bite your ear off for a
would you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
Let somebody cut your piece off for a national title?

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
Just a ken doll?

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Just there's surgery now, that you can work with. Yeah,
then Naddy's gonna be mine though.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Yeah, he came, he came into this question.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
He understood this podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
He understood. Yeah, he understood. And we expect Josh Pate
to be talking about this.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Yeah, who's Josh Pate?

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Oh my, what are you doing? Almost the brightest minded
in college football. Actually he's the future commissioner of college football.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Oh shit, he's.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Got Josh pad he's got a show.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Oh I've seen this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
His name is Josh Pate.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
Very put together, ripped, well spoken. Definitely, wear's true classic
bright mind. He loves you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
He gave us the rank on two fourth seven at thirteen.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
No, that was a joke. I was just throwing that
out there. He didn't actually write that one. I don't
know where he has you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
That's in Wikipedia shit right there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
Well, twenty four seven did write that article. I just
he doesn't work for twenty four to seven. Oh okay,
he's got his own lane, he's got his own thing going.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Hey my bad, Josh pap.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
Let's give a right a fas for Digo Papa.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Hey, I have one more question. Throughout this last year,
the run that you did have. What was like you know,
being a being a fan of the sport growing up
and everything else, what was like the coolest thing you
got to do? But there's going somebody show or I'm like, man,
this is fucking this is.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
The best thing is hanging out with theo Von. That
guy's a fucking nut job. He's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
Where did you get to hang with him?

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
So after the bandwa game.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
That night?

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
No, no, no, not that night, but like a few
like a week after or something, we went and I
took a few of the boys and we went and
just got some ice cream and that guy's yeahs on
the yea choc, the fudg brownie guy. But anyway, like
I was like, bro, he was like the coolest person,

(01:24:35):
like he had like he was my best friend for
like forty years, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
But that that's really cool that I get to hang
out with that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
Yeah, he's a monster. Yeah did you go to one
of his shows or something you just saw him out about?

Speaker 5 (01:24:48):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
I haven't got the chance to. Yeah, but like I
get to see a show every day, like he's every
time I hang out with him. It's like fucking holy shit,
this guy is naturally funny, like he belongs to do comedy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Yeah, dude, he is a He's hilarious, especially like in person,
hanging around just the way his brain operates and thinks
on his feet and everything else. He just comes up
with the craziest ship.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
I think. I think we're like I was gonna say
good together, but like that sounds fucking gay, but like
hang out, hang out because like he just says whatever
is on his mind, and then I say, whatever's on
my mind, you know what I mean. It's just it's
just like fucking nut jobs at it. Yeah, it gives
me a great couple, Taylor.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
Right, think about taxes, right, think about taxes? Yeah, I
could say money joint household income.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
What is wrong with you too? You guys got going
on as if.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
You think about it, right, Yeah, just trying to build
on his story.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
It's a business decision. Yeah, let's pronounce your juck, Larry,
you go what you have?

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
You hooked him up with the Pavia jersey Yet.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
I was actually, uh so what happened with the Pavia
jerseys is like, uh yeah, they all sold and then
like they stopped making him after the season, So I
can't even buy any right now.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
You can't even get your own jerseys.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
I can't get out on jersey right now, but we
need them for the shop. Yeah, so listen to this.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
When you guys beat Alabama again, your words, our wurds
you bring put in the shop, we'll frame it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
You got my word game?

Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
Yeah, that's what we just said, right whoa? I mean
you sound like you're okay with just letting whoever?

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Whoa? Did you not hear the price tag?

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
I'll take that. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:26:34):
But before it's all said and done, I gotta give
a shout to my boy, Luke Passen, a huge, vanniable fan.
When you guys beat Alabama, they always take like a
boy's golf trip, and he got he does. He's not
a big part of your drinker. He actually just had
a kid three weeks ago, So shout out to Joey
his new daughter. But he made a drunken bet saying
that if Bama loses, he would buy all of his
boys Diego Pavia jerseys. He gets blacked out, wakes up

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the next morning, and Bama loss, and so he had
and his buddies while he's passed out, literally tapped in.
He has credit card connected and bought thirteen hundred dollars
worth of jerseys.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
And they all sent them.

Speaker 5 (01:27:09):
And then three of the guys, though, are big dudes,
and they only got excel. So three of the dudes,
they don't even fit the jerseys. So maybe I can
sneak one of those jerseys for us.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
I'll tap in.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
But I had to shout my boy, yeah, I like that.
Thirteen hundred, which is the first Czech diego Pavi got
in is n al deal for New Mexico state.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
Full circle fourteen hundred. But yeah, taxes, Yeah, appreciate your Hey,
taxes are an mfor.

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
Yeah, no doubt. Text to get rid of federal from
text right graph cool graph, let's get rid of it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
Doesn't want to Texas, we can all get behind that.
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