July 26, 2025 • 49 mins
Recorded: November 20, 2023 | In this Best of the Bus episode, the boys sat down in Vegas with UFC President and longtime friend of the show, Dana White. Right out of the gate, Dana made his case as possibly the greatest Blackjack player of all time.
They went on to talk about the early days of Power Slap, which was just launching at the time, and how Dana turned it into a global viral success. He also got real about his personal health journey with Gary Brecka, sharing how it completely transformed his life and outlook.
The conversation touched on business, leadership, and loyalty, with Dana opening up about how he runs the UFC, why he always puts people over money, and how he handles criticism from the media. The boys wrapped things up by talking about the highly anticipated McGregor vs. Chandler fight and what Dana had to say about it at the time.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fellows, Welcome to another Best of the Bus episode. This
series is where we drop a best of episode every
Saturday where we throw it back to some of our
favorite episodes. And as you guys have seen if you
follow us and your subscribe to us on YouTube, there's
a lot of vlogs that we do where Taylor goes
out to the UFC, he gambles with Dana White. We've
been out to several UFC UFC events and we are
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massive fans of what goes on out there, and this
is throwing it back to the first time that Dana White,
the UFC President and friend of the show, came on
the bus while the boys were in Vegas back in
twenty twenty three. We talked Dana's blackjack skills. The rise
of Power Slap. Power Slap was just about to start.
We were at the first one with him. He also
talks about his health journey with Gary Brecca and his
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thoughts on building the UFC into what it is today.
And of course we wrap it up talking McGregor first Chandler,
which we are hopeful, hopeful that it happens next fourth
of July, celebrating two hundred and fifty years of Indos.
This one's awesome. Tap in love you, big hugs, tiny kisses.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I gotta be in a meeting at Red Rock. Not
our kind of meeting, a meeting of rock.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Hey, yes, speaking of you, guys have been on a
terror with the gambling.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Hear absolutely, we're gonna roll, We're gonna go. Yeah, he's
on a terror.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I don't know, man.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
After last night, that was the biggest comeback I've seen
in gambling history.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
That was unbelievable. It was You're You're the sinse of
black jack. You're the Sinsey.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I've been doing it for a long time and I've
had many nights like last night and even deeper. I've
had some fucking wars man, and uh yeah last night
was fun and thanks for thanks for riding it out
with me.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Oh yeah, absolutely, because I knew essentially, You're like, you're
coming just to gamble with me. And then like eight
o'clock hits and you call me, hey, my tooth is broken.
I'm thinking, Hey, you don't have the tone. It's all good.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm doing fucking Friday yesterday and I fucking break my
tooth in the back. And uh, I had this great
dentist in town here Steve Wilson, if you ever need
a dentist there in town. So I fly to his place.
He fucking opens his place for me. He gets in
there and whips my tooth back together, and then uh,
I come and meet you and we start going at it.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
That was wild. Do you want to do? You want
to talk about numbers and where your.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Situation was, Tell me whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So this is this is what I saw, and I
know we talked about it a little bit. But Dana's
rule and you can you can correct me at any
point is you play, you max out the hands, you
win two hands, and you get the fuck out of there. Yep,
no fans or butts about it. That is the rule.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
That's what you do. So we come in knowing your number,
your number, fighting.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Till you get to that number, and then leaving we
get my number. You go quickly, you get your number,
and then we're sitting there kind of just chatting, hanging out.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I didn't really have a number last night, so I've
been gone, I went out of town for a little while,
and I haven't played in a minute, so I was
excited to get together with him and play fucking round.
We get into a battle with his He didn't know
that I was playing for him when I was playing.
So I'm in this big battle too. Eighty down to eighty,
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come all the way back and I went his thirty
and I hand it to him. He's like, oh what, No,
I said, No, I was playing for you. That's you, buddy.
You got it so pump so I had uh. I
started goof around a little bit. I win, I'm up
like eighty ninety one hundred in that ballpark, and uh,
I said, I'm going in again. He's like, he looks
at me. He goes, you're breaking your rule. I go,
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I'm breaking all the rules tonight.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah. Did it happen faster than ninety hundred. Happened like fast,
and you're just kind of like, all right, I need.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
To nothing really fast. Last night was kind of it was.
It was. It was battleish. I should have read all
the fucking signs that said the gambling gods are telling
you to get the fuck out of here right now.
I didn't listen. I had my conscience over here on
my left side saying, hey, you're breaking the rules. Go in,
and it just fucking you know, we would go, we'd
get a little deep and I get right there and
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almost be out. I mean at one point we're like
one hand away and we were out, and and it
was like I couldn't a double down last night to
save my fucking life. And if I got a twenty,
it meant I was gonna lose. I lost every fucking
twenty I got last night. Think about that, losing twenty.
When you get a twenty, you're supposed to be excited.
When I got twenty, I got to a point home
where I said I'm gonna lose his hand.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Right, and then the Mayde showing like a four, and
then like six cards later twenty one the first.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Time doing it around Dana two, like watching it happen.
That was kind of the theme of the night as well.
He's bout, oh, you're gonna fucking beat me anyway, even
though I got nineteen or twenty. That's just how it
works watch Boys. And then he ends up losing. He
gets up pissed off.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Because the funny thing is too mister positive when he
walks in, keep the high energy, keep good, and then
get Denical Herd.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That was like this motherfucker right here.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Go ahead, flip it over here.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, yeah, there was one guy last night, Tom.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You can you can literally say exactly what they're gonna
do when the cards turned this way. You know what's
gonna happen. Literally everything that I would say would happen.
If I had a fourteen, I'd get to ten. If
I had an eleven, I'd get the four for a
double down, you know what I mean. Just yeah, clockwork.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
It was a It was a wild deal to the
point too, where we're pushing seven figures at one point
and down, up, down, and a buffet comes in, like
they literally like rolled in all all the little butler's
roll in with all the food and he takes a
nice little he takes a break, eats his food, and
he's like, I got to get out of here pretty soon.
I can't do the late night because there's a refel
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refeel day. Because when I was back here in August
for Power Slap, I was on. I mean, I think
I won seven eight times in a row, and to
the point where it's getting numb that I was like,
I don't think if you're with me, I don't think
I can lose.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And then then there's.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Guys there are the night, different circumstances and I end
up losing a whole bunch of money, and the fact
that you've taken it personal where you're like, we're sitting there,
he's down. You know, we'll say five hundred. I have
no idea what the what the number is. He looks
at me, he goes, how about you down? We kind
of talk about it a little bit, and he goes,
We're going to make back all that money, no problem.
You're in the middle of a war right now. You're
talking about the next war that we got to go
go through.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
It's wild.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But the way this all started was us meeting at
the super Bowl and then you're like, hey, you guys
should come out to Power Slap and the explosion that
has happened with Power Slap, Like, how does did you
expect that to go the way it has? You knew
it is obviously going to be successful, but it's gone
to a crazy degree.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
At this Scot looked at it, you know, and I
was like, holy fuck, this whole thing doesn't make sense.
How is this pulling these kind of numbers? And then
you start to think, well, what if I did it?
Because I know I'm going to do it better than
anybody else can do it. What would that mean? And
then and then here we are ten months later, and
this thing is a fucking monster. Man, It's just an
absolute monster. And we sit here every day and we
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look at the numbers when we when we when we
do an event, whether it was one, two, three, four
or five, and the and the stuff that goes gets
posted socially, it's just we watch it every day. So
it was two days ago, Aj, you know, our little
social media queen that runs all the social media for us,
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She's hit me up and she says, uh, yeah, the
Sena post is at one hundred and five million right
now and this was how many weeks ago? Huh three
weeks ago, it's at one hundred and five million. In
three weeks the Sena slap right and we're talking, she goes,
it just went to one hundred and six while we're
on the phone. So then that night we had a
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power Slap meeting. It was at one hundred and ten
when we had the meeting that night about Powerslap. So
every fucking day the thing goes up millions millions of us.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Is that where a lot of the money and stuff
is made is through more social so than the viewing
live on rumbo and stuff like that, because I think
a lot of people have like a idea that it's like, oh,
how can it be successful? It's like this isn't that
great of this and that? But obviously through social media, because.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You have no idea what you're doing, and you have
no idea what you're fucking talking about. All these fucking
all you people that are fucking talking shitn't especially the media.
I love the meeting. If the media tells you you've
got something that that's gonna fail, it's definitely gonna fucking win.
The media the dumbest no n nothing, do nothing, never
fucking build nothing motherfuckers on planet Earth. So when they
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say it isn't gonna work, you got a fucking home run, man,
You know what I mean, Jump in and grind the
media these guys. Think about who these people are. When
you really think about the media, who are they, Where
did they come from? Why does their opinion matter? What
have they ever done, what have they ever created, what
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have they ever built? Who's ever depended on a paycheck
from the media? Nobody. They are a bunch of fucking
zeros that sit around and write stories about people who
are actually doing shit. It's fucking fascinating think about it.
It's not a fascinating concept people who have never done
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a fucking thing in their life ever sit around and
write about people who are.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
What got you to that?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Who gives a flying fuck what any of those zero
have to say about anything?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Right, Yeah, absolutely fascinating. So anyway, so no, we we
make money off just like any other sports property. We
make money off our television rights, we make money off sponsorship,
we make money off video games, licensing, all that stuff.
I am leaving here when we're done, and I'm striving
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straight to for Tita Enterprises, and we're doing a huge
fucking story about power Slap. But that's bj it is
the biggest, baddest sports fucking story of the year that
nobody fucking knows.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I know that that'll be awesome to read about too.
It's like, from the business standpoint, what's been like, I
guess the most exciting thing on making on making that
business work with power Slape because you FC and you
know all these other entertainment businesses, you can kind of
just see the success based on what the public opinion
is on it, right, Like you've got great like pay
per view fights, and everything else, Like, what's been challenging
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or what's been fun about building the business of power
Slap since you've ACQUI.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
All the things that I love. The negativity, you know,
when people come out and say this thing sucks, this
can't be done, you can't do it. That is the
shit that gets me out of bed every day. And
I love every fucking minute of it. And then the
end result in shoving it right up everybody's ass. I
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fucking love every minute of it. Man. It's the fucking
best and the only people I'm really talking to about
this thing. There's some guys out there that are that
we consider friendlies and we do whatever. But the Sports
Business Journal, it's like in the sports world, they are
the you know, it's it's what everybody in the industry reads.
It's what all the sponsors read and everybody else. Monster.
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The other thing that's incredible about this product is when
we like even the ads, you know, our sponsors, when
we post something that sponsor driven something, you know, UFC
stuff does like one point seven million views, power slap
does fifteen or sixteen million views. It's like, so right
(11:02):
now this year, year to date on TikTok, we're number
one through seven. Yeah, one through seven, power Flap on
Instagram we're number one. NBA's two and three. Power Slap
is number four, five and six. NBA is like seven
and eight. And put to put it into perspective, the
NBA is eighty million followers. H NFL is thirty million followers.
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We just hit two million. We just hit two million followers.
So we've done all this under two million followers.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And yeah, I don't think people understand like how big
of a player. Just the social media platforms are right
because you're talking about all the views and everything else,
and you get you know, the money that's being paid
and the platform that you're given on like TikTok and
everything else. It's like that is where money is, is
where everybody's attention is, and that's where you've done a
great job like capitalizing with the business.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
That's not even getting into the fact that we're doing
four hundred and fifty million views in India, ninety million
in Russia. Fuck, And the list just goes on and
on as I pray get into all the different countries.
So it's like when you talk about, you know, people like, well,
how do you monetize how that's what we do. That's
what we do. That's that's that's my specialties. You take these.
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You know how many times I've been offered. People will
call me up and say, hey, would you like to
invest in this baseball team? Hey, would you like to
invest in?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
You know, uh this we were kicked. We're looking at
an NBA team one time, me and the Fetida brothers,
and uh, the answer is no, I don't want anything
to do with that shit. You know what I like.
I like taking fringe sports that people think can't be
built and think can't be and monetizing those and building
them up into you know, the UFC. It's easy for
everybody to look back now and go the UFC. Yeah,
(12:40):
fucking yeah, if you got into the UFC. When we
got into the UFC, it was power slab. It was
looked at, right, like fucking power slab. It was actually
worse because it was actually illegal in some fucking states, right,
It was actually illegal to do. This is how bad
it was with the UFC. At that time. You as
a grown adult, didn't have the option to buy it
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on pay per view. Porn was on pay per view.
The UFC was not allowed on pay per view. That's
how fucking bad it was. So to look at the
UFC now and go, oh, you have, of course two
million dollars for the UFC. Shut the fuck up. You
guys have no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
This thingle just hoping, you know, at some point you fail.
And then when they got a little moment to try
and grab it and capitalize on it, right about it
and everything else, it's like, that's the shot everybody tries
to take.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Well, it gets to a point with me where it's
just like, how many more fucking times are you gonna
doubt me? And what what I'm capable of doing? You know,
we're doing the same thing right now with throw one.
We don't throw one. I've told you guys a million times,
you're this. We own ridiculousness. Nitro Circus SLS Skate League,
Travis Pastrano's nitral Cross and we bought that company like
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a little over a year ago, and they're based in California.
I'm building offices over here right now. We're building them out.
These guys will be here in the next couple of
months and I'll be involved in that. I'm already involved
in the daily but we'll be really all than that
in the daily when we when we get it over here,
get it out of California and get it here in Vegas,
and our literally my office connects to their offices. So
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we're gonna that's gonna be a really fun project over
the next couple of years.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, I mean, I've shown them a bunch of interest.
I grew up on Nitro, Circus, Supercross, all that stuff.
That was like the first love of mine before I
got into organized sports.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
And all that.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
But you talk about the mindset and how your essential
hate for mainstream media, When did you learn about the
ins and outs because obviously, like this has been you've
been in the business forever of these these fringe sports
and making them what they are today. How did you
kind of adapt to the world with Internet and all that, Like,
how did how did your mindset change as you kept going.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Well, I love the Internet, I'm all about I love
that we can talk directly to our fans with no middlemen.
Nothing worse than than trying to, you know, do what
you do and going through a middleman. And uh, you know,
everything that I really do right now is direct to
consume or I go directly to our consumers and talk
to the people that that that want to listen. And realistically,
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when you look at it right now, the two most
hated people on the planet right now are the media
and politicians.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, nobody trusts them, nobody likes them. Uh, they know
that most of them are lying. And there's never been
a better time for social media than now. And like
I said, in every way, shape and form and every
business that we own, I talk directly to our consumers.
That's it.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
When you you brought up politicians and you're on the
you're on uh this past weekend recently with theovon and
he brought up like an RFK interview I believe it was,
and then a Peloton reached out and said, hey, you
can't have him on there, and you you essentially went
on a rant like you did with us about hating
the mainstream media, how you can't tell people what to do.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Here, tell me.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
About that process last night with the Pelotons and all
these other bike companies, Like when did you learn that
you had the hour to essentially take away from people
saying what you can and can't do in your business?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
COVID Yeah, I mean I knew it before then but
where really, you know, never, Well, you know, we went
through the whole UFC thing first, Yeah, I mean people,
you know, the mainstream media is shitting all over the
UFC and how it should be banned and this shouldn't
exist and blah blah blah blah blah. Then then here
comes COVID. You got the you know, fucking goofy New
(16:25):
York Times and all these other fucking clowns, uh, you know,
coming out talking shit blasting me every day. They don't matter.
They don't matter, and they don't have the influence or
the power that they think they do. You know, and
you can come out and say whatever you want about me,
and go do whatever you want about me. You you
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determine your future, not people like this. It's like that
whole fucking cancel culture bullshit and all this stuff that
goes on. You just just got to say fuck you.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
And that seems like you get a thrill out of it. Honestly,
like people trying to come at you is your face.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Well, I don't know if I get a thrill out
of it, but it's it's what if you want to
pick a fight with me, let's fucking go.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, let's go. Yeah, taking everything head on. Seems like
you're a way about doing everything that does.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Seem like guys that come out and do these things
that that do these stories on you. Right, Who are you?
What have you done? And are you perfect?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Never fucked up, never made mistakes, got any skeletons in
your closet? Of course they do, you know, of course
they do every We're all fucking human. We've all done
My New Year's Eve ins in it. Fucking did it happened?
No excuses, no fucking you know. I could have tried
to make up tennis. There's no fucking excuse. I did it.
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I admit it, I accept it. Now what I gotta
do is I gotta get up every day and I
gotta at the end of the day, you have to
live with you. Fuck everybody else and what their opinion
is of you. You have to know who you are
and you have to be able to live with yourself.
I got three fucking kids that I love more than anything,
you know what I mean, And I embarrass them last
(18:11):
New Year's Eve, I embarrass myself. I embarrass my kids,
you know what I mean. So you got to get
up and you got to look in the fucking mirror,
say I fucked up? And how do I make sure
this never happens again? Ever? And that's it. I mean,
you're you're only You're only fucking uh. You know, the
only one that you have to answer to is yourself
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and the people that care about you and love you
and your you know, fuck everybody else.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
No, And uh, I think it's I think it's cool
that you're talking about it, because my question is when
you are going through that, like, how difficult was that moment?
Because you're somebody, you'll stand up, you'll stand in the
batter's box, you'll swing with the best of them. You
kind of seem like you can't you can't chip the armor.
But when you're cut, you have these philosophies you go
by because everybody human, like you said, like talk about
(19:02):
those times where it like it is super difficult things
that you lean on. Maybe it's people, maybe it's you
have a mentor maybe it's a circle, maybe it's just
your family. Like talk about the low part.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
There's nobody but you you find out who's who and
what's what. When shit hits the fan. I say it
all the time. You know you'll see the people that
will reach out to you see if you're good, and
the people who won't. It's all good whatever, But the
only one that you have to fucking worry about is you,
you yourself, because it's about you. You fucked up? Are you?
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Are you willing to fucking accept the fact that you
messed up? And and you have to fix this? You
are the one that has to get up every day
and look in the mirror and say that I that
I do right, that I do wrong? How do I
how do I make myself that every day? I have
this Bruce Lee quote everywhere in my house and the
gym in here and everything about how man every day
when you got out of Basically what this quote says
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is every day when you get out of bed, your
your your stride, and your your your game plan should
be to be better than you worry yesterday day right.
And you will have hit plateaus, but you must break
through them and you must succeed to the next level.
And I fucking love that shit. That is exactly how
I live every day of my life, whether it's my
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workout now, my health, my business, my relationships, my family.
How do you make sure that you're better than you
were yesterday. And when you get into these situations like
I was in on New Year's Eve, it's like, so
you can do two things. You can run and fucking hide,
curl up in a ball and let the world just
fucking beat you to death. Or you can dig your
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fucking heels in you figure out how to you know,
you have to figure out yourself, and then you fucking
you dig in, you fight. I literally the day we
got back from Mexico, I had a quote installed on
my wall. It says, may God have mercy upon my enemies,
because I won't. So let's fucking go.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Hey, yeah, it's a gambling creative for at the bus
made God have mercy on the sports. But but you guys,
I won't.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
But you've seen these guys, uh, you know who make
mistakes and fuck up and do whatever, and the world
comes after them and they just disappear and they roll
over and they bow down to whatever the fucking the
crowd mentality wants from you. You know what I mean.
We're at the end of the day, we all make mistakes,
and we're all human. But if you know who you
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really fucking are, and you you know, you don't have
to explain yourself to the rest of the world. You
have to explain yourself and make things right with the
people that are in your inner circle and that of
your family. But at the end of the day, you
have to fucking stick up for yourself if you believe
in you know what I mean. I see guys that
that take just a little bit of heat and the
fucking wheels come off the bus and they you know that,
(21:45):
they run and hide its building, the UFC going through
COVID building. Slap. I am not the run and hide
fucking guy. Yes, that's just not who I am.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
And I will never be moving moving forward like it
seems like that's all you're focused on, is all that
And you've really taken your health like the next level.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
You've seen it.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
When we first met you at the Super Bowl this
past year, you were showing us photos of you and
Sloppy guy just kind of seem like you're eating whatever,
doing whatever, and you've ever you've been singing it, right,
I mean right photos. I mean he always kind of
a built cat, but you you know there was some background.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You call me sloppy, come on here, yeah, sloppy those photos.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
But you talk about Gary bre this podcast, you talk.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
About Gary Brecaman and how he has essentially changed your life.
How did you get on board with a guy like that?
How did that whole process happen for you.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
It's a girl named Kerry case I don't know if
you guys are probably too young, but Casey Casem used
to have a radio show called Casey Kasem's Top forty.
Every week he broke down the top forty uh songs
in the country. He was also the voice for Scooby
Doo No Shaggy Shaggy on Scooby Doo and uh, you know.
His daughter and I have been friends for for for
many years and she's, uh, she's hardcore, but she's kind
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of a hippie, you know what I mean. She says
into all the holistic shit. I didn't believe in that
stuff two years ago. I thought it was all a
crock of shit. Now it's all I believe in. I'm
one of these guys. Show me, prove it to me.
You're telling me that it's this way, but you have
to prove it to me. So I finally decide to
hook up with this guy because he was doing IVS.
(23:22):
My son. We went down to Miami, for his twenty
first birthday, so we needed IV people because we're down
there doing whatever. And he comes in with his team
and he does my blood work. When he walked me
through my blood work, guy had no medical history on
me or my family or anything. He told me everything
that was wrong with me, and he told me what
was wrong with my parents, and he was dead on right,
(23:44):
and it was a really trippy experience. And he basically said,
if you listen to me for the next twelve weeks,
I'll change your whole life. And I was like, I
can do anything for twelve weeks, so I went in.
It didn't even take twelve weeks, and four weeks I
started to feel different order to feel better, and some
of the things that were wrong when me started to
go away and all this other shit, and then I'm
(24:05):
so in on this right now. This guy called me
right now said fucking squirt hot sauce in your eyes,
and you know I would fucking do it right. Yeah.
This guy is a genius and I've seen him help
not just me, but so many other people, including people
that are close to me. So he is the real
fucking deal. And again, you go out on the internet
and you hear other people, you know whatever, talk about
(24:25):
this guy's a scam artists and this camera. Okay, then
don't do it right. Everybody's fucking telling you to fucking
do this. Go see your doctor. That fucking works out
for you. Good luck to you.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, yeah, because you had a uh you had a
video recently too. Uh hey listen, not a doctor. I'm
not telling you guys do this, do that, whatever. But
you did this waterfast and now I'm fascinated from this waterfast.
What was eighty six I did.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Eighty six hours, but it's a seventy two hour fast
and uh, basically it's all water. So this is actually
this was done by doctors. They they've got studies that
are done on this out of Boston where if you
water fast for seven days, it gives you an over
seventy percent chance of not getting cancer, Alzheimer's disease, and
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many many other nasty shit. They've they've done a study
in animals and humans. So I talked to Gary about it,
and Gary's like, it's absolutely legit, but you don't have
to do seven days. You can do seventy two hours.
And you walk me through how to do it and
what's crazy about is when you do it, you get
absolutely fucking shredded. You get so ripped.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I saw the before and after, but that's.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Not even what it's about. It's about the inside is
what you're doing for. So you know, there's all these
philosophies and listen again, I'm no doctor and whatever. I
just regurgitate what I'm told. And this was from the
doctors from from Boston. So it's like cold plunging. When
you go in into cold plunging, you put your body
through adversity. Right, you're in fifty degree water for three minutes.
(25:54):
Your body starts to think it's dying, and your body
fights back. So your liver secretes this shock protein that's
incredible for your body, inflammation, anti age, all kinds of shit. Right,
you do that every day, you become absolutely addicted to it.
So when you do the water fast, basically what happens
is when you stop eating, your body starts trying to
defend itself. Are we starving? Are we this? Are we that?
(26:17):
So it starts shedding all the bad dead cells in
your body and it starts generating new cells, and it
starts to fight. Are we gonna starve? Are we going
to this that, and that's how it fights cancer and
all these other nasty illnesses. How does that not make sense?
And then when you talk about fasting and you talk
about where we come from and how we've evolved, right
(26:38):
back in the day, they would go out and hunt
and kill something. Right, there was no refrigeration, there was
no freezer. You went back and you ate the food
and you didn't eat again until you hunt it again. Yeah, right,
So these people would essentially fast until they hunted again.
And and eight, how does that not make sense either?
(26:58):
And when you're sitting on the couch on a podcast
and you're fucking talking about this, you're like Jesus Christ,
I don't know if I could not eat for seventy
two hours, I mean two years Dana, two years ago
would have said, that's fucking ridiculous. Why would I not
eat for three fucking days unless not without a deserted
island or something, you know. And then once you do it,
the level of clarity that you get it's fucking And
(27:23):
I hate even saying this in front of people, let
alone on a fucking podcast, because I sound like a
fucking hippie. But you get into this, like zen state
you fork like fucking I don't know, man, I don't
know how to explain it. You have to do it
to believe it. But fucking Erica did it too. A
lot of the people here now at UFC are doing that,
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are doing this.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Do you like it?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
For first twenty four.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Hours she just got off it too. I mean yeah,
So I don't want to throw her personal shit out there,
but her weight, her whole life, she's been at a
certain weight. When she did this, she broke the weight,
the lowest weight she's ever been as a woman. Yeah,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
The barrier, how's the first twenty four hours?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
The first twenty it was. It was good for me
because I I do the internet fasting anyway, So I've
gone like I when I fly, I do the whole
Gary berecast system when I fly now too. So when
you fly like I went to Australia, I went to
Abu Dhabi, I just did it to New York. You
don't eat, you fast on the plane. And there's these
hydrogen uh bottle water things that that that turn your water,
(28:29):
you know, your your bottle water into hydrogen water and
you just drink that the whole way and then when
you land you adjust to the time zone. It's fucking incredible.
I've done it three times now in crazy flights and it.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Out where you're not getting the uh the jet leg m, so.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
You don't get jet leg Yeah, and is it like
a machine that I've been doing it?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You put it in there.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I just now I just bought one that's a leader.
These ones were small ones. Now I got the leader. Yeah.
This is how fucking crazy end of this shit I am.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah, it seems like you were telling me about your
routine that you go through on a daily basis.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
You do it like religion, religiously, religiously, and I feel
like I'm fucking in my twenties again.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Man, guy, you got the jew You definitely got the energy.
We started this podcast off.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Well, yeah, and you were with me half the night
last night playing fucking cards. And I was back in
here this morning and I'll be back in here tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
What time do you get up this morning?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Well, I slept in late today. I got up at
seven thirty, so I slept late.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
He walked out of at the Red Side.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
And it's like non negotiable. It's like, what are your
non negotiables? In the morning for somebody who's listening being like,
I love the energy a livery's at.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah, what are the little.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Things I can do now just for me to kind
of be better.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I have the the pad in my bed that alkaline
iss your body. I come straight here. I do the
cold plunge, I do the steam, I do the oxygen therapy,
I do the red light, and then I do my workout.
And on the days, because I work out Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
and then I don't work out again till Saturday. And
then every day is recovery, So I do recovery every
single day. So on days that I work out and
(29:58):
do recovery, it's two hours of my morning, and then
on days that I just recover, it's one hour of
my morning.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
So when you if you're somebody listening to this podcast
falling on a budget, are what's like the number one
thing to you? If you're like, if you want to
just change one thing and do it consistently, what would
that be?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
And that is the hard part, and it's the thing
that kills me is because I talk about this so much,
because I want to share this with other people, and
I want people that are listening to know when you're
seeing that doctor and the shit that you're telling him
is wrong with you and they can't fix it, and
it never gets better, but they just keep adding more
and more pills to your fucking pile that you're taking,
(30:33):
and it makes you feel even shittier. There is hope
you don't have to feel this way. There are and
there's other guys out there, like Gary Breca. Right, there's
a guy. Will you go grab that book that's on
my counter, you know the one I'm talking about right,
the books that I have. Nicole has one bringing in
here cause people that can't afford Gary Breca. I always
(30:53):
tell people to watch Gary's podcast. He's at Gary Breca
on Instagram and another guy that Joe's had on that.
Everybody tells me this book is incredible, and I buy
this book and I give it to people, and I
do this because I want to share this with with people.
But like like the pad that I put in my bed,
Gary says, you take your shoes off and you walk
in the grass and it's electricity exactly from from from
(31:17):
the Earth's and and then and then, uh, if you
don't have a cold plunch, jump in your fucking pool
when it's cold out, or or put some ice in
a bucket, uh, you know, in a barrel in cold plunch,
cold shower, all these type of things that you can do.
The red light therapy, get out in the sun even
when it's cold out. Gary always talks about first sun
in the morning is the best. And you know this.
(31:38):
So there's alternatives like this, and then there's this book.
This book is called Outlive. I'm gonna give everybody in
here one too. I just bought ten more. I never
met this guy, don't know this guy. I make no
money off the shit. I make no money off any
of the ship and in fact, I pay Gary Brecca.
Uh full boat. Okay, I'm telling you this, and I'm
(32:01):
saying this to you because you can tell that it's
I'm super passionate about it and it's real. It works.
But this is called Outlive, the Science of Art in
the Art of Longevity. Peter Atia sorry if I'm butchering
your name, buddy, Peter Atiya, MD. Everybody tells me that
this book is incredible, and even Gary. That's the other
thing that I love about Gary Breca. Gary Brekat doesn't
(32:22):
shit on other people and go no, no, no, only
my stuff will do this. Gary's like, this guy is brilliant,
this guy's good, and this guy knows exactly what he's
talking about. Gary is that type of guy. So there
you go outlive. If you can't afford to do a
lot of this stuff, check out Gary's podcast and his
stuff and read Outlive by Peter Atiya.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I think this is a lot about Breca, the way
he doesn't the way he say he doesn't talk about
other people. I've worked with some people like doing the
blood work and all that, trying to stay ahead of
the chains with football, and it seemed like most of
the people I worked with, if I brought up somebody else,
they're like, no, fuck that guy, because everyone at the
end of the day is trying to make money as well.
But I hear breck on you know the Rogan podcasts,
and you think about the rivalries within the game that
(33:03):
people are living, and he talks about Andrew Heuberman, He's like,
guy's awesome. Guy understands his shit, like he knows what
he's doing. So that says that probably says a lot
about him.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
The first thing, honestly, other than when this guy started
walking through the blood work. First thing I noticed about
him other doctors, and he says, listen, it's not listen
when doctors go they don't study human biology the way
that they used to and everything else. He works with
doctors to work everybody who has other opinions. He's like, no,
that's it. He doesn't shit on anybody ever, Like, no, no, no,
(33:32):
not that guy. My way. Gary is the exact opposite.
It's one of the things that I extremely respect about
the guy. Yeah, so he speaks very highly of this guy.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
When you talk about Breca and he gave you like
when you're essentially gonna die, he said you had like
ten eleven years to live.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Ten point four.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
What was like your first thought when you heard that,
was it still in your mind, this is the guy's
a load of shit, like you have to show me?
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Or was that like the wake up thing.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
No, it wasn't a wake up because I wasn't a
believer yet make me believe then I'll say, oh shit,
I got ten years left. So then after I started
doing his stuff, you know, you know what, I believe.
I believe I didn't have that line. I think Gary
was being nice. I don't think I had ten point
four years I was fucking bad, and I think that,
you know, there might be a lot of people out
there listening right now that you know, when you're a
(34:19):
man and you got shit going on with you, fucking
deal with it.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Boohoo.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
My fucking legs are fucked up by this. That try
to talk to a doctor, that don't fix you. It's
just like, there's two things. Number one, I'm a man.
I gotta do what I gotta do. I gotta get
up every day and deal with life. Yeah, number one.
And number two, maybe this is how fucking fifty feels.
I'm fifty, now, this is how fifty feels. It must be,
you know, that's what you start to think. It is
the furthest thing from the truth. And now I tell
(34:45):
Gary all the time, I'm like, I feel fucking incredible.
I feel twenty. And he's like, no, you don't. You don't,
you don't feel incredible. This is what normal feels like.
This isn't incredible. This is normal. This is what you're
supposed to feel like. And it's all fascinating. He's a
fascinating dude. I hope that this dude lives to be
a fucking hundred because a lot of people need him.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, there's a book called Lifespan where a guy talks
about that, like if you can do fasting and do
basic things like and you can start to feel that
normally you're talking about like one hundred, one hundred and
ten is like the essentially the new seventy, and like
so on and so forth.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Seventy is the new forty and all that.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Well, if you look at the generation before us, right,
you got Clint Eastwood right now, that's fucking ninety three
years old.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Still doing it. He's a mayor of a town, still
doing well.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
He was still doing still making movies, still doing his thing.
You got Gene Hackman still alive. I don't know the
state of Gene Ackman. I haven't seen him in a while,
but he's in his fucking nineties. He's still alive. Bob Aram,
I hate this motherfucker. Right, let me tell you about
Bob Aram. You go back and research anything about Bob
Ahram and me talking about him. I can't stand him. Whatever,
(35:50):
I have to give him the respect. I'm at the
Aces playoffs, so that the the WNBA champions, the Las
Vegas Aces. I'm at the I'm a playoff game. It's
eight thirty at night. Now, you got to pull up
to the stadium in the back, and you gotta walk
quite away. I look over across the thing. It's eight thirty.
Bob fucking Aram is sitting at the fucking ninety one,
(36:13):
ninety two years old at the Aces game. I'm like,
you gotta be shitting me right. A week later, he's
in fucking Saudi Arabia watching the fucking fights in Saudi Arabia.
He's ninety fucking two years old.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
He's moving around.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
You gotta you gotta respect it.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
You gotta respect it right. Respect.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
But I'm saying, these guys from this generation now are
already living into their nineties and flying to fucking Saudi
Arabia to watch fights.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
How long are you trying to live?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I don't give a fuck how long I live. I
want to quality of life. I want a good quality
of You know what I don't want to Hey, Dana
is eighty six. He's still alive. Fuck, I'm sitting in
a wheelchairs rooling on myself in the living room, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Eighty six at the high rollers.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I want to get yeah, boys working on his eight
point three million dollars that we've won over the last
fucking twenty years.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Let's fucking go with that. I can get on board
with that. What's the lowest you've ever been?
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Down the most?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, hey, that's a quick turn positively, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Yeah, he's the worst you've ever felt in your life?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, that's a good it's a good question though.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Two million two Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Did you bounce back from it or that's what you
walked away? Maybe you came back from something lower?
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Is Hunter here? Pull him in here? If he's in here?
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I would love Hunter to be on this podcast though.
He's such a legend.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, just stays behind the scene, Yeah, behind the scenes,
insappearance every now and then.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Walle Hunter's coming. How much of a factor is Hunter
in this business? The way he operates and everything behind So.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
You want to know something fucking crazy? He was an
intern here, No ship, Hunter was an intern. He was
an intern in like what department? Like, uh legal and
uh yeah legal. He's a lawyer. Yeah, so he interned
here when he when he was in college a young kid,
and then he became a lawyer and then he ended
up becoming my lawyer there, and then when we sold
(38:02):
the company I had to bring you know, I brought
him in as a is he here, he's not here.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
It's a bad luck. It's a bad I really wanted
him to. I'll give you that.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
We talk about how oh he is here? Oh okay,
I was gonna say, we're talking about Grady is and
he's not at work today. And then he ended up
becoming my lawyer. And uh, when we sold the company,
I was sort of rebuilding the executive team in a
few spots and I brought him into to be my
(38:34):
right hand man. Yeah, and he's fucking awesome. Not you know,
he's great and what he does, but he's he's one
of my close friends. Now, I'm very good friend.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
He seems like he seems like the perfect yang to
your yang because you obviously it's.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Exactly what I was looking for. Yeah, what what you
can have here is to me, you know what I mean.
So Lorenzo for Tita and I balanced each other out.
I needed I need to that other side of the
kale to balance out, to keep way that I am.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Right, because you're you're you're a thrill seeker, you're competitive,
you you're fighting a good fight. Hunters a lot that way. Too,
from what I've seen, but he has more of he
seems more cautious in a lot of ways. In the
simple simplest fact is when we get to the analytical
because we'll sit there able to hey, you man, you play,
and I mean I know he will. He's well off
(39:25):
and he does his thing. He's like no, he's like,
I'd rather own a casino than play the game. And
every time I play, he's like, you're a fucking idiot,
Like what are you doing? And I kind of feel
bad about myself for a little bit. I'm like, no,
I'm gonna keep playing though, We're gonna We're gonna keep
this thing rolling. But he's a he's an awesome cat.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I A casino is Uh, You've got to go through
a lot of bullshit to try to casino, and you should.
You should, So being fuck that ship. I want nothing
to do with that bullshit. That's like a running for office.
So basically, the government can come into your house at
any point in time, go through your safe, go through
your phone, go through all your personal fucking records. You know,
(40:01):
all this shit the game. What people don't realize is
the gaming industry is incredibly regulated by the government, you
know what I mean. So when you go in there,
like some nights, when you're in there, you would feel
like I always talk about this back in the wild
wild West. You have played enough now to see that
sometimes when these fucking cards flip, you're like, how is
(40:23):
this even fucking numerically possible that this could fucking happen
this way? So, but I think back in the cowboy days,
when guys were really fucking stupid and had no education,
hot headed, everybody carried fucking guns. Imagine being a dealer
or a casino owner back in those days, and you
see these cards flipping the way that people had to
die back then, you guys I fucking dealer because they
(40:48):
thought they were cheating. It's impossible. But the reality is
when you play these games and the way these cards flip,
it is the most regulated ship in this country. All
these games are square and on the up and up
and and all the cameras and the government is paying
attention to everything. It's very, very regulated. So to get
a license in gaming, you gotta go through hell.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
It's not that's not worth your time. Fuck that, you're
you're more build brands, sell them, move on.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
On the guy's not at the table. I would rather
play against you. Yeah, it's it's just my thing. It's
what I love to do. And you know, you have
people Black Hunter and many other people like, why the
fuck does this guy? You doesn't need to get because
I like it. That's fucking Whyney business other than I
like every night exactly, It's what I like to do.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
When's the last time you didn't bet a max bet
and black jack?
Speaker 2 (41:40):
It's just it doesn't exist. Oh, he counts cards, he
does this, he does that. I bet the same fucking
amount every hand. I bet the max every hand.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah, you don't just bet the max every hand. You're
also a psychopath the way I was watching you, because essentially,
when you get down the way you were last night,
you have to rely on the doubles and the splits
to get you back on track. And there was a
couple of times, you know, we're looking at a pair
of twos versus a king and you're like, fuck it
in the classical light, let's gamble, and then you're doubling
whatever going after it, and it obviously worked in your favor.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Is it just a feel thing though?
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah, it's just you have to mix it up. You know,
when we're in this we're in this fucking loop that
we were in last night. I was it true? Is
it not true? That I would tell you what was
going to happen? So we were just talking about before
it fucking happened, I told you what was going to happen.
So you know, yes, for the most part, you played
by the book, but overall you play by your gut,
(42:36):
and there's times when you have to do shit that
doesn't make sense because nothing is making sense when you
have the amount of twenties that we had last night
and we won none of them. When you have the
amount of double downs that we had and we won
none of them. If I had a fourteen, I was
absolutely positively getting the fucking ten. If I had an eleven,
(42:57):
we're absolutely getting the four, right right, I mean all night,
So when that kind of goofy shit is happening over
and at fucking one point, I don't know if you
remember this, but uh, fucking what's his name? Orlando? Yeah?
Played right, John Orlando played, He got fucking murdered. Then
(43:17):
we started playing. We got the same fucking hands that
Orlando got, the same cards, same up against. Everything was
exactly the same. Yeah, like we were fucking caught in
the matrix and it was a it was a fucking
glitch and the matrix it was fucking crazy.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
There was he started playing. And sometimes you play where
you just have the cards down. I don't know if
you just enjoy it more the thrill of everybody else
washing and no one know what's going on. And I
would was sitting right next to him, like well, I
could see the cards and he'd have six, like a
two and a four, and the dealer would be showing
a four, and he would just stay no hit, no
rhyme or reason, and then the dealer would bust And
is the crazy the goofy shit you're talking about? So
(43:53):
as you're taking that ten, all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Dead on, you're fucking absolute. So when you're in this
fucking loop and this ship's go went on, I have
the second.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
He gets the crazy.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Every time you hit that six, right, it's a four
to two, right you hit it, it's the fucking ten.
So most of the time when ship's going goofy, I
will stay on the six. I will stay on you know,
hands like that, and the dealer normally, but how many
how many times you see it last night. I think
it was probably exactly five or six, and I think
(44:24):
I lost one.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
And the ones you won then just stay on six.
It was kind of like a look at this fucking
move and the one you lost you kind of flip it, but.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
The dealers will flip it over and go what Yeah, Yeah, it.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Was so in the moment. He's doing his mannerisms at
the table too, with the card swipe and everything else.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
And the thing that here's what blows me away about
you is we've had conversations about people when other situations
have happened, and ESPNS and these other companies are calling
you saying we want this guy out, and you're like,
all right, then we're out that type of how did
you become an individual or have you always been like
the where you're choosing people over business because you meet
(45:03):
people with money and there's a level of narcissism or
something where they are so solely focused on their success
that they don't care about other people's success, and it
seems like you were the exact opposite. I've been at
the table with you where you've handed me money. Just
last night's perfect example. Kyle from the Milk boys, he's
down fifty, you're fucking around, you're on a hot streak.
You're like, hey give me thirty, bing bang boom, here
(45:23):
here's thirty. And you kind of do that ware like
what is that company? Has that always been you? Or
is it because you're the position you're in now and
you understand people.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
I don't ever choose money over people ever. Ever. I
don't know how to explain it, but I will never choose.
It's just like, you know, this business, The best example
I can give you is going through COVID is no
matter what goes on, we're going to go through a
lot of hard times. We went through the uh you know,
(45:51):
the crash in eight nine. There's been other things that
have happened in our business going up with one year
we had every fucking main event and fall out or
comain event with injuries and it was a rough pay
per view year. And you know, we've had times that
back in the day when we didn't know if we
were going to break covenants and shit like that. We
never laid our people off. I will fucking I look
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at every day when I get up out of bed
and I go to work, I'm going to war there's
people coming to fucking take shots at us and try
to take us down, whether it's the fucking media or
these people. Of those people and all these people that
are in this building strap up and go to battle
with me every day. So the UFC is this fucking battleship, right,
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and we're cruising and we're fighting the fight every day.
Some people have been here for ten, fifteen, twenty years, right,
And COVID was the perfect example because we've never found
I mean, we've never been through a time that was
as scary as COVID. Are we going to die? Is
the whole world going to collapse? Is this gonna happen?
Is that gonna happen? Now? I'm I'm the leader in
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this organization, right, I am the guy who is Uh.
My job description is to run the business through the good,
the bad, the ugly, all this shit. But I take
care of my people. My people depend on a paycheck
every week for me. So the way that I am
what most businesses will do. You saw it a lot
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through COVID. You see a lot when when they're going
through hard times. The way that you stay that that
that you make it a lot easier as you you
start fucking getting rid of people. So you put bullets
on all these people, and you know, then your your
costs go down, and you manage the business to do whatever.
This is a fucking battleship, and we're either all going
down together or not going down at all. That's just
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the way that I'm fucking wired and the way that
I look at it, And and when I look at
my employees, I expect a lot from them. Right. This
place is a fucking grindhouse. It's a hamster wheel. Every
fucking Saturday, we're putting on a fight. As soon as
that fight is over, we started promoting the next fight
on Monday. Right, So think about this, and this is
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the way that I look at it. How many games
have they missed that their kids played, how many performances
have they missed that their kids performed in at school?
How many hours did they miss playing with their fucking
kids and all this kind of shit. These are the
things that I think about. And we hit some hard times,
we hit a rocket roll, and that's it. You're just
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a fucking number. You're you're you're a You're a fucking
number to the bottom line, because that's basically what these
companies do. They go down and they look at the people,
and if you make the most money, you're probably the
one that's in the most risk.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Right.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Or there's multiple people to do your job or whatever.
And what goes out the window is all the shit
that you've done for the company, right, all goes out
right out the fucking window. Fuck that shit, not with me.
I don't forget. I don't ever forget. I always remember
who was here, and who did what, and and and
and then the people that I don't even know what
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they did, I know what they did. You know what
I mean, because I know what we do here, and
and and I will never pick money over people.
Fellows, Welcome to another Best of the Bus episode. This
series is where we drop a best of episode every
Saturday where we throw it back to some of our
favorite episodes. And as you guys have seen if you
follow us and your subscribe to us on YouTube, there's
a lot of vlogs that we do where Taylor goes
out to the UFC, he gambles with Dana White. We've
been out to several UFC UFC events and we are
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massive fans of what goes on out there, and this
is throwing it back to the first time that Dana White,
the UFC President and friend of the show, came on
the bus while the boys were in Vegas back in
twenty twenty three. We talked Dana's blackjack skills. The rise
of Power Slap. Power Slap was just about to start.
We were at the first one with him. He also
talks about his health journey with Gary Brecca and his
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thoughts on building the UFC into what it is today.
And of course we wrap it up talking McGregor first Chandler,
which we are hopeful, hopeful that it happens next fourth
of July, celebrating two hundred and fifty years of Indos.
This one's awesome. Tap in love you, big hugs, tiny kisses.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I gotta be in a meeting at Red Rock. Not
our kind of meeting, a meeting of rock.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Hey, yes, speaking of you, guys have been on a
terror with the gambling.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Hear absolutely, we're gonna roll, We're gonna go. Yeah, he's
on a terror.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I don't know, man.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
After last night, that was the biggest comeback I've seen
in gambling history.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
That was unbelievable. It was You're You're the sinse of
black jack. You're the Sinsey.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I've been doing it for a long time and I've
had many nights like last night and even deeper. I've
had some fucking wars man, and uh yeah last night
was fun and thanks for thanks for riding it out
with me.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Oh yeah, absolutely, because I knew essentially, You're like, you're
coming just to gamble with me. And then like eight
o'clock hits and you call me, hey, my tooth is broken.
I'm thinking, Hey, you don't have the tone. It's all good.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm doing fucking Friday yesterday and I fucking break my
tooth in the back. And uh, I had this great
dentist in town here Steve Wilson, if you ever need
a dentist there in town. So I fly to his place.
He fucking opens his place for me. He gets in
there and whips my tooth back together, and then uh,
I come and meet you and we start going at it.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
That was wild. Do you want to do? You want
to talk about numbers and where your.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Situation was, Tell me whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So this is this is what I saw, and I
know we talked about it a little bit. But Dana's
rule and you can you can correct me at any
point is you play, you max out the hands, you
win two hands, and you get the fuck out of there. Yep,
no fans or butts about it. That is the rule.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
That's what you do. So we come in knowing your number,
your number, fighting.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Till you get to that number, and then leaving we
get my number. You go quickly, you get your number,
and then we're sitting there kind of just chatting, hanging out.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I didn't really have a number last night, so I've
been gone, I went out of town for a little while,
and I haven't played in a minute, so I was
excited to get together with him and play fucking round.
We get into a battle with his He didn't know
that I was playing for him when I was playing.
So I'm in this big battle too. Eighty down to eighty,
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come all the way back and I went his thirty
and I hand it to him. He's like, oh what, No,
I said, No, I was playing for you. That's you, buddy.
You got it so pump so I had uh. I
started goof around a little bit. I win, I'm up
like eighty ninety one hundred in that ballpark, and uh,
I said, I'm going in again. He's like, he looks
at me. He goes, you're breaking your rule. I go,
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I'm breaking all the rules tonight.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah. Did it happen faster than ninety hundred. Happened like fast,
and you're just kind of like, all right, I need.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
To nothing really fast. Last night was kind of it was.
It was. It was battleish. I should have read all
the fucking signs that said the gambling gods are telling
you to get the fuck out of here right now.
I didn't listen. I had my conscience over here on
my left side saying, hey, you're breaking the rules. Go in,
and it just fucking you know, we would go, we'd
get a little deep and I get right there and
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almost be out. I mean at one point we're like
one hand away and we were out, and and it
was like I couldn't a double down last night to
save my fucking life. And if I got a twenty,
it meant I was gonna lose. I lost every fucking
twenty I got last night. Think about that, losing twenty.
When you get a twenty, you're supposed to be excited.
When I got twenty, I got to a point home
where I said I'm gonna lose his hand.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Right, and then the Mayde showing like a four, and
then like six cards later twenty one the first.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Time doing it around Dana two, like watching it happen.
That was kind of the theme of the night as well.
He's bout, oh, you're gonna fucking beat me anyway, even
though I got nineteen or twenty. That's just how it
works watch Boys. And then he ends up losing. He
gets up pissed off.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Because the funny thing is too mister positive when he
walks in, keep the high energy, keep good, and then
get Denical Herd.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That was like this motherfucker right here.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Go ahead, flip it over here.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, yeah, there was one guy last night, Tom.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You can you can literally say exactly what they're gonna
do when the cards turned this way. You know what's
gonna happen. Literally everything that I would say would happen.
If I had a fourteen, I'd get to ten. If
I had an eleven, I'd get the four for a
double down, you know what I mean. Just yeah, clockwork.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
It was a It was a wild deal to the
point too, where we're pushing seven figures at one point
and down, up, down, and a buffet comes in, like
they literally like rolled in all all the little butler's
roll in with all the food and he takes a
nice little he takes a break, eats his food, and
he's like, I got to get out of here pretty soon.
I can't do the late night because there's a refel
(05:23):
refeel day. Because when I was back here in August
for Power Slap, I was on. I mean, I think
I won seven eight times in a row, and to
the point where it's getting numb that I was like,
I don't think if you're with me, I don't think
I can lose.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And then then there's.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Guys there are the night, different circumstances and I end
up losing a whole bunch of money, and the fact
that you've taken it personal where you're like, we're sitting there,
he's down. You know, we'll say five hundred. I have
no idea what the what the number is. He looks
at me, he goes, how about you down? We kind
of talk about it a little bit, and he goes,
We're going to make back all that money, no problem.
You're in the middle of a war right now. You're
talking about the next war that we got to go
go through.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
It's wild.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But the way this all started was us meeting at
the super Bowl and then you're like, hey, you guys
should come out to Power Slap and the explosion that
has happened with Power Slap, Like, how does did you
expect that to go the way it has? You knew
it is obviously going to be successful, but it's gone
to a crazy degree.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
At this Scot looked at it, you know, and I
was like, holy fuck, this whole thing doesn't make sense.
How is this pulling these kind of numbers? And then
you start to think, well, what if I did it?
Because I know I'm going to do it better than
anybody else can do it. What would that mean? And
then and then here we are ten months later, and
this thing is a fucking monster. Man, It's just an
absolute monster. And we sit here every day and we
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look at the numbers when we when we when we
do an event, whether it was one, two, three, four
or five, and the and the stuff that goes gets
posted socially, it's just we watch it every day. So
it was two days ago, Aj, you know, our little
social media queen that runs all the social media for us,
(06:56):
She's hit me up and she says, uh, yeah, the
Sena post is at one hundred and five million right
now and this was how many weeks ago? Huh three
weeks ago, it's at one hundred and five million. In
three weeks the Sena slap right and we're talking, she goes,
it just went to one hundred and six while we're
on the phone. So then that night we had a
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power Slap meeting. It was at one hundred and ten
when we had the meeting that night about Powerslap. So
every fucking day the thing goes up millions millions of us.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Is that where a lot of the money and stuff
is made is through more social so than the viewing
live on rumbo and stuff like that, because I think
a lot of people have like a idea that it's like, oh,
how can it be successful? It's like this isn't that
great of this and that? But obviously through social media, because.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You have no idea what you're doing, and you have
no idea what you're fucking talking about. All these fucking
all you people that are fucking talking shitn't especially the media.
I love the meeting. If the media tells you you've
got something that that's gonna fail, it's definitely gonna fucking win.
The media the dumbest no n nothing, do nothing, never
fucking build nothing motherfuckers on planet Earth. So when they
(08:05):
say it isn't gonna work, you got a fucking home run, man,
You know what I mean, Jump in and grind the
media these guys. Think about who these people are. When
you really think about the media, who are they, Where
did they come from? Why does their opinion matter? What
have they ever done, what have they ever created, what
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have they ever built? Who's ever depended on a paycheck
from the media? Nobody. They are a bunch of fucking
zeros that sit around and write stories about people who
are actually doing shit. It's fucking fascinating think about it.
It's not a fascinating concept people who have never done
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a fucking thing in their life ever sit around and
write about people who are.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
What got you to that?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Who gives a flying fuck what any of those zero
have to say about anything?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Right, Yeah, absolutely fascinating. So anyway, so no, we we
make money off just like any other sports property. We
make money off our television rights, we make money off sponsorship,
we make money off video games, licensing, all that stuff.
I am leaving here when we're done, and I'm striving
(09:23):
straight to for Tita Enterprises, and we're doing a huge
fucking story about power Slap. But that's bj it is
the biggest, baddest sports fucking story of the year that
nobody fucking knows.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I know that that'll be awesome to read about too.
It's like, from the business standpoint, what's been like, I
guess the most exciting thing on making on making that
business work with power Slape because you FC and you
know all these other entertainment businesses, you can kind of
just see the success based on what the public opinion
is on it, right, Like you've got great like pay
per view fights, and everything else, Like, what's been challenging
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or what's been fun about building the business of power
Slap since you've ACQUI.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
All the things that I love. The negativity, you know,
when people come out and say this thing sucks, this
can't be done, you can't do it. That is the
shit that gets me out of bed every day. And
I love every fucking minute of it. And then the
end result in shoving it right up everybody's ass. I
(10:20):
fucking love every minute of it. Man. It's the fucking
best and the only people I'm really talking to about
this thing. There's some guys out there that are that
we consider friendlies and we do whatever. But the Sports
Business Journal, it's like in the sports world, they are
the you know, it's it's what everybody in the industry reads.
It's what all the sponsors read and everybody else. Monster.
(10:42):
The other thing that's incredible about this product is when
we like even the ads, you know, our sponsors, when
we post something that sponsor driven something, you know, UFC
stuff does like one point seven million views, power slap
does fifteen or sixteen million views. It's like, so right
(11:02):
now this year, year to date on TikTok, we're number
one through seven. Yeah, one through seven, power Flap on
Instagram we're number one. NBA's two and three. Power Slap
is number four, five and six. NBA is like seven
and eight. And put to put it into perspective, the
NBA is eighty million followers. H NFL is thirty million followers.
(11:24):
We just hit two million. We just hit two million followers.
So we've done all this under two million followers.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And yeah, I don't think people understand like how big
of a player. Just the social media platforms are right
because you're talking about all the views and everything else,
and you get you know, the money that's being paid
and the platform that you're given on like TikTok and
everything else. It's like that is where money is, is
where everybody's attention is, and that's where you've done a
great job like capitalizing with the business.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
That's not even getting into the fact that we're doing
four hundred and fifty million views in India, ninety million
in Russia. Fuck, And the list just goes on and
on as I pray get into all the different countries.
So it's like when you talk about, you know, people like, well,
how do you monetize how that's what we do. That's
what we do. That's that's that's my specialties. You take these.
(12:11):
You know how many times I've been offered. People will
call me up and say, hey, would you like to
invest in this baseball team? Hey, would you like to
invest in?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
You know, uh this we were kicked. We're looking at
an NBA team one time, me and the Fetida brothers,
and uh, the answer is no, I don't want anything
to do with that shit. You know what I like.
I like taking fringe sports that people think can't be
built and think can't be and monetizing those and building
them up into you know, the UFC. It's easy for
everybody to look back now and go the UFC. Yeah,
(12:40):
fucking yeah, if you got into the UFC. When we
got into the UFC, it was power slab. It was
looked at, right, like fucking power slab. It was actually
worse because it was actually illegal in some fucking states, right,
It was actually illegal to do. This is how bad
it was with the UFC. At that time. You as
a grown adult, didn't have the option to buy it
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on pay per view. Porn was on pay per view.
The UFC was not allowed on pay per view. That's
how fucking bad it was. So to look at the
UFC now and go, oh, you have, of course two
million dollars for the UFC. Shut the fuck up. You
guys have no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
This thingle just hoping, you know, at some point you fail.
And then when they got a little moment to try
and grab it and capitalize on it, right about it
and everything else, it's like, that's the shot everybody tries
to take.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Well, it gets to a point with me where it's
just like, how many more fucking times are you gonna
doubt me? And what what I'm capable of doing? You know,
we're doing the same thing right now with throw one.
We don't throw one. I've told you guys a million times,
you're this. We own ridiculousness. Nitro Circus SLS Skate League,
Travis Pastrano's nitral Cross and we bought that company like
(13:48):
a little over a year ago, and they're based in California.
I'm building offices over here right now. We're building them out.
These guys will be here in the next couple of
months and I'll be involved in that. I'm already involved
in the daily but we'll be really all than that
in the daily when we when we get it over here,
get it out of California and get it here in Vegas,
and our literally my office connects to their offices. So
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we're gonna that's gonna be a really fun project over
the next couple of years.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, I mean, I've shown them a bunch of interest.
I grew up on Nitro, Circus, Supercross, all that stuff.
That was like the first love of mine before I
got into organized sports.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
And all that.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
But you talk about the mindset and how your essential
hate for mainstream media, When did you learn about the
ins and outs because obviously, like this has been you've
been in the business forever of these these fringe sports
and making them what they are today. How did you
kind of adapt to the world with Internet and all that, Like,
how did how did your mindset change as you kept going.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Well, I love the Internet, I'm all about I love
that we can talk directly to our fans with no middlemen.
Nothing worse than than trying to, you know, do what
you do and going through a middleman. And uh, you know,
everything that I really do right now is direct to
consume or I go directly to our consumers and talk
to the people that that that want to listen. And realistically,
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when you look at it right now, the two most
hated people on the planet right now are the media
and politicians.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, nobody trusts them, nobody likes them. Uh, they know
that most of them are lying. And there's never been
a better time for social media than now. And like
I said, in every way, shape and form and every
business that we own, I talk directly to our consumers.
That's it.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
When you you brought up politicians and you're on the
you're on uh this past weekend recently with theovon and
he brought up like an RFK interview I believe it was,
and then a Peloton reached out and said, hey, you
can't have him on there, and you you essentially went
on a rant like you did with us about hating
the mainstream media, how you can't tell people what to do.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Here, tell me.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
About that process last night with the Pelotons and all
these other bike companies, Like when did you learn that
you had the hour to essentially take away from people
saying what you can and can't do in your business?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
COVID Yeah, I mean I knew it before then but
where really, you know, never, Well, you know, we went
through the whole UFC thing first, Yeah, I mean people,
you know, the mainstream media is shitting all over the
UFC and how it should be banned and this shouldn't
exist and blah blah blah blah blah. Then then here
comes COVID. You got the you know, fucking goofy New
(16:25):
York Times and all these other fucking clowns, uh, you know,
coming out talking shit blasting me every day. They don't matter.
They don't matter, and they don't have the influence or
the power that they think they do. You know, and
you can come out and say whatever you want about me,
and go do whatever you want about me. You you
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determine your future, not people like this. It's like that
whole fucking cancel culture bullshit and all this stuff that
goes on. You just just got to say fuck you.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
And that seems like you get a thrill out of it. Honestly,
like people trying to come at you is your face.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Well, I don't know if I get a thrill out
of it, but it's it's what if you want to
pick a fight with me, let's fucking go.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, let's go. Yeah, taking everything head on. Seems like
you're a way about doing everything that does.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Seem like guys that come out and do these things
that that do these stories on you. Right, Who are you?
What have you done? And are you perfect?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Never fucked up, never made mistakes, got any skeletons in
your closet? Of course they do, you know, of course
they do every We're all fucking human. We've all done
My New Year's Eve ins in it. Fucking did it happened?
No excuses, no fucking you know. I could have tried
to make up tennis. There's no fucking excuse. I did it.
(17:47):
I admit it, I accept it. Now what I gotta
do is I gotta get up every day and I
gotta at the end of the day, you have to
live with you. Fuck everybody else and what their opinion
is of you. You have to know who you are
and you have to be able to live with yourself.
I got three fucking kids that I love more than anything,
you know what I mean, And I embarrass them last
(18:11):
New Year's Eve, I embarrass myself. I embarrass my kids,
you know what I mean. So you got to get
up and you got to look in the fucking mirror,
say I fucked up? And how do I make sure
this never happens again? Ever? And that's it. I mean,
you're you're only You're only fucking uh. You know, the
only one that you have to answer to is yourself
(18:33):
and the people that care about you and love you
and your you know, fuck everybody else.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
No, And uh, I think it's I think it's cool
that you're talking about it, because my question is when
you are going through that, like, how difficult was that moment?
Because you're somebody, you'll stand up, you'll stand in the
batter's box, you'll swing with the best of them. You
kind of seem like you can't you can't chip the armor.
But when you're cut, you have these philosophies you go
by because everybody human, like you said, like talk about
(19:02):
those times where it like it is super difficult things
that you lean on. Maybe it's people, maybe it's you
have a mentor maybe it's a circle, maybe it's just
your family. Like talk about the low part.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
There's nobody but you you find out who's who and
what's what. When shit hits the fan. I say it
all the time. You know you'll see the people that
will reach out to you see if you're good, and
the people who won't. It's all good whatever, But the
only one that you have to fucking worry about is you,
you yourself, because it's about you. You fucked up? Are you?
(19:32):
Are you willing to fucking accept the fact that you
messed up? And and you have to fix this? You
are the one that has to get up every day
and look in the mirror and say that I that
I do right, that I do wrong? How do I
how do I make myself that every day? I have
this Bruce Lee quote everywhere in my house and the
gym in here and everything about how man every day
when you got out of Basically what this quote says
(19:53):
is every day when you get out of bed, your
your your stride, and your your your game plan should
be to be better than you worry yesterday day right.
And you will have hit plateaus, but you must break
through them and you must succeed to the next level.
And I fucking love that shit. That is exactly how
I live every day of my life, whether it's my
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workout now, my health, my business, my relationships, my family.
How do you make sure that you're better than you
were yesterday. And when you get into these situations like
I was in on New Year's Eve, it's like, so
you can do two things. You can run and fucking hide,
curl up in a ball and let the world just
fucking beat you to death. Or you can dig your
(20:34):
fucking heels in you figure out how to you know,
you have to figure out yourself, and then you fucking
you dig in, you fight. I literally the day we
got back from Mexico, I had a quote installed on
my wall. It says, may God have mercy upon my enemies,
because I won't. So let's fucking go.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Hey, yeah, it's a gambling creative for at the bus
made God have mercy on the sports. But but you guys,
I won't.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
But you've seen these guys, uh, you know who make
mistakes and fuck up and do whatever, and the world
comes after them and they just disappear and they roll
over and they bow down to whatever the fucking the
crowd mentality wants from you. You know what I mean.
We're at the end of the day, we all make mistakes,
and we're all human. But if you know who you
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really fucking are, and you you know, you don't have
to explain yourself to the rest of the world. You
have to explain yourself and make things right with the
people that are in your inner circle and that of
your family. But at the end of the day, you
have to fucking stick up for yourself if you believe
in you know what I mean. I see guys that
that take just a little bit of heat and the
fucking wheels come off the bus and they you know that,
(21:45):
they run and hide its building, the UFC going through
COVID building. Slap. I am not the run and hide
fucking guy. Yes, that's just not who I am.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
And I will never be moving moving forward like it
seems like that's all you're focused on, is all that
And you've really taken your health like the next level.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
You've seen it.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
When we first met you at the Super Bowl this
past year, you were showing us photos of you and
Sloppy guy just kind of seem like you're eating whatever,
doing whatever, and you've ever you've been singing it, right,
I mean right photos. I mean he always kind of
a built cat, but you you know there was some background.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You call me sloppy, come on here, yeah, sloppy those photos.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
But you talk about Gary bre this podcast, you talk.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
About Gary Brecaman and how he has essentially changed your life.
How did you get on board with a guy like that?
How did that whole process happen for you.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
It's a girl named Kerry case I don't know if
you guys are probably too young, but Casey Casem used
to have a radio show called Casey Kasem's Top forty.
Every week he broke down the top forty uh songs
in the country. He was also the voice for Scooby
Doo No Shaggy Shaggy on Scooby Doo and uh, you know.
His daughter and I have been friends for for for
many years and she's, uh, she's hardcore, but she's kind
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of a hippie, you know what I mean. She says
into all the holistic shit. I didn't believe in that
stuff two years ago. I thought it was all a
crock of shit. Now it's all I believe in. I'm
one of these guys. Show me, prove it to me.
You're telling me that it's this way, but you have
to prove it to me. So I finally decide to
hook up with this guy because he was doing IVS.
(23:22):
My son. We went down to Miami, for his twenty
first birthday, so we needed IV people because we're down
there doing whatever. And he comes in with his team
and he does my blood work. When he walked me
through my blood work, guy had no medical history on
me or my family or anything. He told me everything
that was wrong with me, and he told me what
was wrong with my parents, and he was dead on right,
(23:44):
and it was a really trippy experience. And he basically said,
if you listen to me for the next twelve weeks,
I'll change your whole life. And I was like, I
can do anything for twelve weeks, so I went in.
It didn't even take twelve weeks, and four weeks I
started to feel different order to feel better, and some
of the things that were wrong when me started to
go away and all this other shit, and then I'm
(24:05):
so in on this right now. This guy called me
right now said fucking squirt hot sauce in your eyes,
and you know I would fucking do it right. Yeah.
This guy is a genius and I've seen him help
not just me, but so many other people, including people
that are close to me. So he is the real
fucking deal. And again, you go out on the internet
and you hear other people, you know whatever, talk about
(24:25):
this guy's a scam artists and this camera. Okay, then
don't do it right. Everybody's fucking telling you to fucking
do this. Go see your doctor. That fucking works out
for you. Good luck to you.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, yeah, because you had a uh you had a
video recently too. Uh hey listen, not a doctor. I'm
not telling you guys do this, do that, whatever. But
you did this waterfast and now I'm fascinated from this waterfast.
What was eighty six I did.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Eighty six hours, but it's a seventy two hour fast
and uh, basically it's all water. So this is actually
this was done by doctors. They they've got studies that
are done on this out of Boston where if you
water fast for seven days, it gives you an over
seventy percent chance of not getting cancer, Alzheimer's disease, and
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many many other nasty shit. They've they've done a study
in animals and humans. So I talked to Gary about it,
and Gary's like, it's absolutely legit, but you don't have
to do seven days. You can do seventy two hours.
And you walk me through how to do it and
what's crazy about is when you do it, you get
absolutely fucking shredded. You get so ripped.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I saw the before and after, but that's.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Not even what it's about. It's about the inside is
what you're doing for. So you know, there's all these
philosophies and listen again, I'm no doctor and whatever. I
just regurgitate what I'm told. And this was from the
doctors from from Boston. So it's like cold plunging. When
you go in into cold plunging, you put your body
through adversity. Right, you're in fifty degree water for three minutes.
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Your body starts to think it's dying, and your body
fights back. So your liver secretes this shock protein that's
incredible for your body, inflammation, anti age, all kinds of shit. Right,
you do that every day, you become absolutely addicted to it.
So when you do the water fast, basically what happens
is when you stop eating, your body starts trying to
defend itself. Are we starving? Are we this? Are we that?
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So it starts shedding all the bad dead cells in
your body and it starts generating new cells, and it
starts to fight. Are we gonna starve? Are we going
to this that, and that's how it fights cancer and
all these other nasty illnesses. How does that not make sense?
And then when you talk about fasting and you talk
about where we come from and how we've evolved, right
(26:38):
back in the day, they would go out and hunt
and kill something. Right, there was no refrigeration, there was
no freezer. You went back and you ate the food
and you didn't eat again until you hunt it again. Yeah, right,
So these people would essentially fast until they hunted again.
And and eight, how does that not make sense either?
(26:58):
And when you're sitting on the couch on a podcast
and you're fucking talking about this, you're like Jesus Christ,
I don't know if I could not eat for seventy
two hours, I mean two years Dana, two years ago
would have said, that's fucking ridiculous. Why would I not
eat for three fucking days unless not without a deserted
island or something, you know. And then once you do it,
the level of clarity that you get it's fucking And
(27:23):
I hate even saying this in front of people, let
alone on a fucking podcast, because I sound like a
fucking hippie. But you get into this, like zen state
you fork like fucking I don't know, man, I don't
know how to explain it. You have to do it
to believe it. But fucking Erica did it too. A
lot of the people here now at UFC are doing that,
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are doing this.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Do you like it?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
For first twenty four.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Hours she just got off it too. I mean yeah,
So I don't want to throw her personal shit out there,
but her weight, her whole life, she's been at a
certain weight. When she did this, she broke the weight,
the lowest weight she's ever been as a woman. Yeah,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
The barrier, how's the first twenty four hours?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
The first twenty it was. It was good for me
because I I do the internet fasting anyway, So I've
gone like I when I fly, I do the whole
Gary berecast system when I fly now too. So when
you fly like I went to Australia, I went to
Abu Dhabi, I just did it to New York. You
don't eat, you fast on the plane. And there's these
hydrogen uh bottle water things that that that turn your water,
(28:29):
you know, your your bottle water into hydrogen water and
you just drink that the whole way and then when
you land you adjust to the time zone. It's fucking incredible.
I've done it three times now in crazy flights and it.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Out where you're not getting the uh the jet leg m, so.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
You don't get jet leg Yeah, and is it like
a machine that I've been doing it?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You put it in there.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I just now I just bought one that's a leader.
These ones were small ones. Now I got the leader. Yeah.
This is how fucking crazy end of this shit I am.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah, it seems like you were telling me about your
routine that you go through on a daily basis.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
You do it like religion, religiously, religiously, and I feel
like I'm fucking in my twenties again.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Man, guy, you got the jew You definitely got the energy.
We started this podcast off.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Well, yeah, and you were with me half the night
last night playing fucking cards. And I was back in
here this morning and I'll be back in here tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
What time do you get up this morning?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Well, I slept in late today. I got up at
seven thirty, so I slept late.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
He walked out of at the Red Side.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
And it's like non negotiable. It's like, what are your
non negotiables? In the morning for somebody who's listening being like,
I love the energy a livery's at.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah, what are the little.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Things I can do now just for me to kind
of be better.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I have the the pad in my bed that alkaline
iss your body. I come straight here. I do the
cold plunge, I do the steam, I do the oxygen therapy,
I do the red light, and then I do my workout.
And on the days, because I work out Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
and then I don't work out again till Saturday. And
then every day is recovery, So I do recovery every
single day. So on days that I work out and
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do recovery, it's two hours of my morning, and then
on days that I just recover, it's one hour of
my morning.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
So when you if you're somebody listening to this podcast
falling on a budget, are what's like the number one
thing to you? If you're like, if you want to
just change one thing and do it consistently, what would
that be?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
And that is the hard part, and it's the thing
that kills me is because I talk about this so much,
because I want to share this with other people, and
I want people that are listening to know when you're
seeing that doctor and the shit that you're telling him
is wrong with you and they can't fix it, and
it never gets better, but they just keep adding more
and more pills to your fucking pile that you're taking,
(30:33):
and it makes you feel even shittier. There is hope
you don't have to feel this way. There are and
there's other guys out there, like Gary Breca. Right, there's
a guy. Will you go grab that book that's on
my counter, you know the one I'm talking about right,
the books that I have. Nicole has one bringing in
here cause people that can't afford Gary Breca. I always
(30:53):
tell people to watch Gary's podcast. He's at Gary Breca
on Instagram and another guy that Joe's had on that.
Everybody tells me this book is incredible, and I buy
this book and I give it to people, and I
do this because I want to share this with with people.
But like like the pad that I put in my bed,
Gary says, you take your shoes off and you walk
in the grass and it's electricity exactly from from from
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the Earth's and and then and then, uh, if you
don't have a cold plunch, jump in your fucking pool
when it's cold out, or or put some ice in
a bucket, uh, you know, in a barrel in cold plunch,
cold shower, all these type of things that you can do.
The red light therapy, get out in the sun even
when it's cold out. Gary always talks about first sun
in the morning is the best. And you know this.
(31:38):
So there's alternatives like this, and then there's this book.
This book is called Outlive. I'm gonna give everybody in
here one too. I just bought ten more. I never
met this guy, don't know this guy. I make no
money off the shit. I make no money off any
of the ship and in fact, I pay Gary Brecca.
Uh full boat. Okay, I'm telling you this, and I'm
(32:01):
saying this to you because you can tell that it's
I'm super passionate about it and it's real. It works.
But this is called Outlive, the Science of Art in
the Art of Longevity. Peter Atia sorry if I'm butchering
your name, buddy, Peter Atiya, MD. Everybody tells me that
this book is incredible, and even Gary. That's the other
thing that I love about Gary Breca. Gary Brekat doesn't
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shit on other people and go no, no, no, only
my stuff will do this. Gary's like, this guy is brilliant,
this guy's good, and this guy knows exactly what he's
talking about. Gary is that type of guy. So there
you go outlive. If you can't afford to do a
lot of this stuff, check out Gary's podcast and his
stuff and read Outlive by Peter Atiya.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I think this is a lot about Breca, the way
he doesn't the way he say he doesn't talk about
other people. I've worked with some people like doing the
blood work and all that, trying to stay ahead of
the chains with football, and it seemed like most of
the people I worked with, if I brought up somebody else,
they're like, no, fuck that guy, because everyone at the
end of the day is trying to make money as well.
But I hear breck on you know the Rogan podcasts,
and you think about the rivalries within the game that
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people are living, and he talks about Andrew Heuberman, He's like,
guy's awesome. Guy understands his shit, like he knows what
he's doing. So that says that probably says a lot
about him.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
The first thing, honestly, other than when this guy started
walking through the blood work. First thing I noticed about
him other doctors, and he says, listen, it's not listen
when doctors go they don't study human biology the way
that they used to and everything else. He works with
doctors to work everybody who has other opinions. He's like, no,
that's it. He doesn't shit on anybody ever, Like, no, no, no,
(33:32):
not that guy. My way. Gary is the exact opposite.
It's one of the things that I extremely respect about
the guy. Yeah, so he speaks very highly of this guy.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
When you talk about Breca and he gave you like
when you're essentially gonna die, he said you had like
ten eleven years to live.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Ten point four.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
What was like your first thought when you heard that,
was it still in your mind, this is the guy's
a load of shit, like you have to show me?
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Or was that like the wake up thing.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
No, it wasn't a wake up because I wasn't a
believer yet make me believe then I'll say, oh shit,
I got ten years left. So then after I started
doing his stuff, you know, you know what, I believe.
I believe I didn't have that line. I think Gary
was being nice. I don't think I had ten point
four years I was fucking bad, and I think that,
you know, there might be a lot of people out
there listening right now that you know, when you're a
(34:19):
man and you got shit going on with you, fucking
deal with it.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Boohoo.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
My fucking legs are fucked up by this. That try
to talk to a doctor, that don't fix you. It's
just like, there's two things. Number one, I'm a man.
I gotta do what I gotta do. I gotta get
up every day and deal with life. Yeah, number one.
And number two, maybe this is how fucking fifty feels.
I'm fifty, now, this is how fifty feels. It must be,
you know, that's what you start to think. It is
the furthest thing from the truth. And now I tell
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Gary all the time, I'm like, I feel fucking incredible.
I feel twenty. And he's like, no, you don't. You don't,
you don't feel incredible. This is what normal feels like.
This isn't incredible. This is normal. This is what you're
supposed to feel like. And it's all fascinating. He's a
fascinating dude. I hope that this dude lives to be
a fucking hundred because a lot of people need him.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, there's a book called Lifespan where a guy talks
about that, like if you can do fasting and do
basic things like and you can start to feel that
normally you're talking about like one hundred, one hundred and
ten is like the essentially the new seventy, and like
so on and so forth.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Seventy is the new forty and all that.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Well, if you look at the generation before us, right,
you got Clint Eastwood right now, that's fucking ninety three
years old.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Still doing it. He's a mayor of a town, still
doing well.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
He was still doing still making movies, still doing his thing.
You got Gene Hackman still alive. I don't know the
state of Gene Ackman. I haven't seen him in a while,
but he's in his fucking nineties. He's still alive. Bob Aram,
I hate this motherfucker. Right, let me tell you about
Bob Aram. You go back and research anything about Bob
Ahram and me talking about him. I can't stand him. Whatever,
(35:50):
I have to give him the respect. I'm at the
Aces playoffs, so that the the WNBA champions, the Las
Vegas Aces. I'm at the I'm a playoff game. It's
eight thirty at night. Now, you got to pull up
to the stadium in the back, and you gotta walk
quite away. I look over across the thing. It's eight thirty.
Bob fucking Aram is sitting at the fucking ninety one,
(36:13):
ninety two years old at the Aces game. I'm like,
you gotta be shitting me right. A week later, he's
in fucking Saudi Arabia watching the fucking fights in Saudi Arabia.
He's ninety fucking two years old.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
He's moving around.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
You gotta you gotta respect it.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
You gotta respect it right. Respect.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
But I'm saying, these guys from this generation now are
already living into their nineties and flying to fucking Saudi
Arabia to watch fights.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
How long are you trying to live?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I don't give a fuck how long I live. I
want to quality of life. I want a good quality
of You know what I don't want to Hey, Dana
is eighty six. He's still alive. Fuck, I'm sitting in
a wheelchairs rooling on myself in the living room, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Eighty six at the high rollers.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I want to get yeah, boys working on his eight
point three million dollars that we've won over the last
fucking twenty years.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Let's fucking go with that. I can get on board
with that. What's the lowest you've ever been?
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Down the most?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, hey, that's a quick turn positively, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Yeah, he's the worst you've ever felt in your life?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, that's a good it's a good question though.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Two million two Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Did you bounce back from it or that's what you
walked away? Maybe you came back from something lower?
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Is Hunter here? Pull him in here? If he's in here?
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I would love Hunter to be on this podcast though.
He's such a legend.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, just stays behind the scene, Yeah, behind the scenes,
insappearance every now and then.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Walle Hunter's coming. How much of a factor is Hunter
in this business? The way he operates and everything behind So.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
You want to know something fucking crazy? He was an
intern here, No ship, Hunter was an intern. He was
an intern in like what department? Like, uh legal and
uh yeah legal. He's a lawyer. Yeah, so he interned
here when he when he was in college a young kid,
and then he became a lawyer and then he ended
up becoming my lawyer there, and then when we sold
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the company I had to bring you know, I brought
him in as a is he here, he's not here.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
It's a bad luck. It's a bad I really wanted
him to. I'll give you that.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
We talk about how oh he is here? Oh okay,
I was gonna say, we're talking about Grady is and
he's not at work today. And then he ended up
becoming my lawyer. And uh, when we sold the company,
I was sort of rebuilding the executive team in a
few spots and I brought him into to be my
(38:34):
right hand man. Yeah, and he's fucking awesome. Not you know,
he's great and what he does, but he's he's one
of my close friends. Now, I'm very good friend.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
He seems like he seems like the perfect yang to
your yang because you obviously it's.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Exactly what I was looking for. Yeah, what what you
can have here is to me, you know what I mean.
So Lorenzo for Tita and I balanced each other out.
I needed I need to that other side of the
kale to balance out, to keep way that I am.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Right, because you're you're you're a thrill seeker, you're competitive,
you you're fighting a good fight. Hunters a lot that way. Too,
from what I've seen, but he has more of he
seems more cautious in a lot of ways. In the
simple simplest fact is when we get to the analytical
because we'll sit there able to hey, you man, you play,
and I mean I know he will. He's well off
(39:25):
and he does his thing. He's like no, he's like,
I'd rather own a casino than play the game. And
every time I play, he's like, you're a fucking idiot,
Like what are you doing? And I kind of feel
bad about myself for a little bit. I'm like, no,
I'm gonna keep playing though, We're gonna We're gonna keep
this thing rolling. But he's a he's an awesome cat.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I A casino is Uh, You've got to go through
a lot of bullshit to try to casino, and you should.
You should, So being fuck that ship. I want nothing
to do with that bullshit. That's like a running for office.
So basically, the government can come into your house at
any point in time, go through your safe, go through
your phone, go through all your personal fucking records. You know,
(40:01):
all this shit the game. What people don't realize is
the gaming industry is incredibly regulated by the government, you
know what I mean. So when you go in there,
like some nights, when you're in there, you would feel
like I always talk about this back in the wild
wild West. You have played enough now to see that
sometimes when these fucking cards flip, you're like, how is
(40:23):
this even fucking numerically possible that this could fucking happen
this way? So, but I think back in the cowboy days,
when guys were really fucking stupid and had no education,
hot headed, everybody carried fucking guns. Imagine being a dealer
or a casino owner back in those days, and you
see these cards flipping the way that people had to
die back then, you guys I fucking dealer because they
(40:48):
thought they were cheating. It's impossible. But the reality is
when you play these games and the way these cards flip,
it is the most regulated ship in this country. All
these games are square and on the up and up
and and all the cameras and the government is paying
attention to everything. It's very, very regulated. So to get
a license in gaming, you gotta go through hell.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
It's not that's not worth your time. Fuck that, you're
you're more build brands, sell them, move on.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
On the guy's not at the table. I would rather
play against you. Yeah, it's it's just my thing. It's
what I love to do. And you know, you have
people Black Hunter and many other people like, why the
fuck does this guy? You doesn't need to get because
I like it. That's fucking Whyney business other than I
like every night exactly, It's what I like to do.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
When's the last time you didn't bet a max bet
and black jack?
Speaker 2 (41:40):
It's just it doesn't exist. Oh, he counts cards, he
does this, he does that. I bet the same fucking
amount every hand. I bet the max every hand.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah, you don't just bet the max every hand. You're
also a psychopath the way I was watching you, because essentially,
when you get down the way you were last night,
you have to rely on the doubles and the splits
to get you back on track. And there was a
couple of times, you know, we're looking at a pair
of twos versus a king and you're like, fuck it
in the classical light, let's gamble, and then you're doubling
whatever going after it, and it obviously worked in your favor.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Is it just a feel thing though?
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah, it's just you have to mix it up. You know,
when we're in this we're in this fucking loop that
we were in last night. I was it true? Is
it not true? That I would tell you what was
going to happen? So we were just talking about before
it fucking happened, I told you what was going to happen.
So you know, yes, for the most part, you played
by the book, but overall you play by your gut,
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and there's times when you have to do shit that
doesn't make sense because nothing is making sense when you
have the amount of twenties that we had last night
and we won none of them. When you have the
amount of double downs that we had and we won
none of them. If I had a fourteen, I was
absolutely positively getting the fucking ten. If I had an eleven,
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we're absolutely getting the four, right right, I mean all night,
So when that kind of goofy shit is happening over
and at fucking one point, I don't know if you
remember this, but uh, fucking what's his name? Orlando? Yeah?
Played right, John Orlando played, He got fucking murdered. Then
(43:17):
we started playing. We got the same fucking hands that
Orlando got, the same cards, same up against. Everything was
exactly the same. Yeah, like we were fucking caught in
the matrix and it was a it was a fucking
glitch and the matrix it was fucking crazy.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
There was he started playing. And sometimes you play where
you just have the cards down. I don't know if
you just enjoy it more the thrill of everybody else
washing and no one know what's going on. And I
would was sitting right next to him, like well, I
could see the cards and he'd have six, like a
two and a four, and the dealer would be showing
a four, and he would just stay no hit, no
rhyme or reason, and then the dealer would bust And
is the crazy the goofy shit you're talking about? So
(43:53):
as you're taking that ten, all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Dead on, you're fucking absolute. So when you're in this
fucking loop and this ship's go went on, I have
the second.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
He gets the crazy.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Every time you hit that six, right, it's a four
to two, right you hit it, it's the fucking ten.
So most of the time when ship's going goofy, I
will stay on the six. I will stay on you know,
hands like that, and the dealer normally, but how many
how many times you see it last night. I think
it was probably exactly five or six, and I think
(44:24):
I lost one.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
And the ones you won then just stay on six.
It was kind of like a look at this fucking
move and the one you lost you kind of flip it, but.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
The dealers will flip it over and go what Yeah, Yeah, it.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Was so in the moment. He's doing his mannerisms at
the table too, with the card swipe and everything else.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
And the thing that here's what blows me away about
you is we've had conversations about people when other situations
have happened, and ESPNS and these other companies are calling
you saying we want this guy out, and you're like,
all right, then we're out that type of how did
you become an individual or have you always been like
the where you're choosing people over business because you meet
(45:03):
people with money and there's a level of narcissism or
something where they are so solely focused on their success
that they don't care about other people's success, and it
seems like you were the exact opposite. I've been at
the table with you where you've handed me money. Just
last night's perfect example. Kyle from the Milk boys, he's
down fifty, you're fucking around, you're on a hot streak.
You're like, hey give me thirty, bing bang boom, here
(45:23):
here's thirty. And you kind of do that ware like
what is that company? Has that always been you? Or
is it because you're the position you're in now and
you understand people.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
I don't ever choose money over people ever. Ever. I
don't know how to explain it, but I will never choose.
It's just like, you know, this business, The best example
I can give you is going through COVID is no
matter what goes on, we're going to go through a
lot of hard times. We went through the uh you know,
(45:51):
the crash in eight nine. There's been other things that
have happened in our business going up with one year
we had every fucking main event and fall out or
comain event with injuries and it was a rough pay
per view year. And you know, we've had times that
back in the day when we didn't know if we
were going to break covenants and shit like that. We
never laid our people off. I will fucking I look
(46:15):
at every day when I get up out of bed
and I go to work, I'm going to war there's
people coming to fucking take shots at us and try
to take us down, whether it's the fucking media or
these people. Of those people and all these people that
are in this building strap up and go to battle
with me every day. So the UFC is this fucking battleship, right,
(46:35):
and we're cruising and we're fighting the fight every day.
Some people have been here for ten, fifteen, twenty years, right,
And COVID was the perfect example because we've never found
I mean, we've never been through a time that was
as scary as COVID. Are we going to die? Is
the whole world going to collapse? Is this gonna happen?
Is that gonna happen? Now? I'm I'm the leader in
(47:00):
this organization, right, I am the guy who is Uh.
My job description is to run the business through the good,
the bad, the ugly, all this shit. But I take
care of my people. My people depend on a paycheck
every week for me. So the way that I am
what most businesses will do. You saw it a lot
(47:20):
through COVID. You see a lot when when they're going
through hard times. The way that you stay that that
that you make it a lot easier as you you
start fucking getting rid of people. So you put bullets
on all these people, and you know, then your your
costs go down, and you manage the business to do whatever.
This is a fucking battleship, and we're either all going
down together or not going down at all. That's just
(47:44):
the way that I'm fucking wired and the way that
I look at it, And and when I look at
my employees, I expect a lot from them. Right. This
place is a fucking grindhouse. It's a hamster wheel. Every
fucking Saturday, we're putting on a fight. As soon as
that fight is over, we started promoting the next fight
on Monday. Right, So think about this, and this is
(48:05):
the way that I look at it. How many games
have they missed that their kids played, how many performances
have they missed that their kids performed in at school?
How many hours did they miss playing with their fucking
kids and all this kind of shit. These are the
things that I think about. And we hit some hard times,
we hit a rocket roll, and that's it. You're just
(48:28):
a fucking number. You're you're you're a You're a fucking
number to the bottom line, because that's basically what these
companies do. They go down and they look at the people,
and if you make the most money, you're probably the
one that's in the most risk.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Right.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Or there's multiple people to do your job or whatever.
And what goes out the window is all the shit
that you've done for the company, right, all goes out
right out the fucking window. Fuck that shit, not with me.
I don't forget. I don't ever forget. I always remember
who was here, and who did what, and and and
and then the people that I don't even know what
(49:04):
they did, I know what they did. You know what
I mean, because I know what we do here, and
and and I will never pick money over people.
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