Brian Kelley On Why Florida Georgia Broke Up

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're rolling. Thank you, Mitch. All right, we have an
emergency podcast, so K, if you don't mind, I'm gonna
lay the groundwork for what happened yesterday, if that's okay. Yeah, absolutely,
So yesterday our Tyler Hubbard podcast came out and uh,
your wife reached out to my wife and asked for
her phone number for my phone number. Yeah, you within
I don't know ninety seconds of that phone number being

(00:22):
received by your wife. I had my phone was ringing.
BK gets on the phone, He's like, listen, well, my
hertsepound right now. Kind of like re saying it all
because when you we as want to say, hey, man,
how's it going, with a lot of compliments like hey,
love your show, love you guys, and I know something's coming,
like the way you're kind of building me up. I
knew something was was headed my way. Shit sandwich, this

(00:44):
shit sandwich, right, something positive positive, negative positive, and you
kind of get lost in the meat. So you called.
Obviously there were things about that podcast that you didn't
believe to be the truth, and that you said You've
been quiet for a long time and you love the
opportunity to say your side of the which is that's
what Bustling with the Boys is all about. Yeah, you
also said on that podcast that I said some things

(01:04):
about you that were disrespectful to me. I immediately once
we hung up the phone, first say it was called Well,
second thing I did. He'll get on the YouTube and
start watching that clip and the clip that you refer to,
and Mitch, I hope you play that back.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
What happened beyond the way with you and BK? That's
like to where Florida Georgia line can't be forever?

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, a good question. I mean, for me, it was
really unexpected. But BK came to me and said, man,
I'm really feeling like I want to do a solo thing.
And I'm like really, I'm like, we were just getting
out of our first deal. We were kind of in
a sweet spot that we had worked for ten years
to get to, and I'm like, bro, like, why don't
we just ride this thing out for like five more years,
ten more years and then we can do the solo
thing or whatever. But again, like I wanted to support him,

(01:43):
he was adamant like now now's my time. I really
need to do this for myself. And I'm like, well, hey,
whatever you need to do, Bro, Like, what do you
want from me? He's like, I just want support. So
I'm like, all right, you got it, Bro, Like we've
had an incredible ride. This is where it's going to go. Like,
let's do it, and you prush it and you never know,
maybe it'll bring us back together and we can have
a reunion tour or whatever. But it was he definitely

(02:04):
initiated the whole thing from the beginning, and it kind
of when I say, caught me off guard. It wasn't
that we had never mentioned it before. It's just one
of those things where I didn't think then. I didn't
think it was gonna happen then. You know what I
mean is we're.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Talking about the breakup and if I see what you
see when you're looking at through the lens of what
your main storyline here is with you and Tyler. But
when I'm talking to Will about if Will did this,
if I did this to Will, Will would probably be
like you piece of shit. I was I'm the burger guy,
You're just a toppings guy, which from the storyline, because

(02:35):
I'm putting myself in a headspace of Will andized relationship,
not yours. In Tyler's I'm putting myself in a headspace
of how much Will does for the bus in the
back end as opposed to how much I do, and
all of that kind of the ins and outs of
how willanized relationship works. And I'm kind of just trying
to make a humor out of a situation that's uncomfortable
for everybody to see on a bus. So with that,
I want you to know that Busting with the Boys

(02:55):
is not here to ever attack you or attack anybody
my opinions. Will's opinion is never going to be made
by what other people say about People's gonna be out
the interactions that we have with people. That's going to
dictate how we feel about them. So as long as
you feel good about that, brother, we can get right
into it.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
No, I appreciate it. And thanks for thanks for answering
the call and getting me on here. Man, I've been
wanting to get on here for years. And uh, you know,
great to be able to clarify some things, and and
also you know, I got an album coming out in
two days, so great timing.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Forget the Kendrick Lamar and Drake Beef.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Some f g L and we had to get these
some Southern beef going off country beef. Man, Uh, where
do you want to start?

Speaker 4 (03:38):
I mean, how do y'all want to start it? Like,
I'm open minded to be I didn't really come with
an agenda, you know, I just I wanted to be
able to have an open conversation, and you know, I
guess I could start it off, but you know I
had multiple you know, friends and family and fans kind
of reach out and pass you know, some clips over

(03:59):
and then the episode and you know, really at the
end of the day, you know, for the fans sake,
the ones that have paid money to you know, see
Tyler and I and support us over the years, hard
earned money for concert tickets, CDs, vinyl records, merch you know,
my family, my mom and dad are family friends. You know.

(04:21):
I think it's important to you know, shed some light
on you know, my experience and what it was like
going through that for me and not just one side
of the story. And so I appreciate the outlet to
be able to come here in a place where I'm
fans of y'all. Like again, I watch y'all some of
the jelly roll earnest things or something. I haven't laughed

(04:43):
that hard in a long time man, like I really
enjoyed the show. So I was a little taken back
yesterday just on some of the things. And I hear
after talking to you, what you're saying. But you know,
I would love to give some light on just kind
of the scenario, on kind of how some of that
went down. And I wouldn't even call it a beef thing.

(05:04):
I don't think this is really a beef situation, but
I do. I do think it's important to speak my
truth and to you know, at the same time, stand
up for myself, you know, because it's not just him
that was FGL. You know, there's two of us, and
that's that's what made it so special. So to kind
of start, you guys are.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
On the top too, and so when this is all
unfolding and you're kind of just hearing through the grapevine
that oh there's something going on, like there's not. I
don't think FGL they're gonna they're gonna be a band
or a crew anymore. And then you guys go to
the solo route. I do feel like everybody's curious on
what happens. So when we have Tyler on, like me,
I only know I know Tyler through Taylor. So when
we're sitting here listening to Tyler and referring to that

(05:43):
clip and everything else, like I'm just taking whatever is
being said. It's like he's the only one that I'm
hearing from.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
No, I totally get it. I totally get that. I'm
I'm understanding of that, you know, to kind of start, uh,
you know, when we kind of referencing, you know, how
we got to you know, I heard b K and
my name kind of thrown out quite a bit, and
just to give some clarity, you know, back to you know,
b K wanted a solo career to clarify that. You know,

(06:12):
I'm a songwriter. You know, I moved to Nashville to
write songs. We ended up in a duo and I'm
forever grateful for what we were able to do. Man,
we had magic, amazing fans, We went on a hell
of a ride. I'm forever grateful for that, and just
what a time.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
You know.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
So we've had that, We've had the conversation of having
extra outlets since twenty sixteen and then every every two
years after that, meaning you know I had voice that
you know, I want to obviously keep doing FGL. But
for me, you know, in my off time, when songwriters

(06:47):
creatives are alone, you find even more of yourself and
there's gonna be songs over the years that just being
a songwriter, you know, I'm gonna write that aren't gonna
fit the brand of FGL right, And so it was
important for me to you know, continue to honor my craft,
my my artistry, my songwriting, and so you know, I
had voice that for a long time. And you know,

(07:09):
we kind of made a deal, you know where once
our fifth record is done, our terms up. You know,
we're gonna create more freedom for ourselves. We're gonna keep
FGL going, We're gonna you know, put out some solo stuff.
So it wasn't a surprise because the marker was was
in place of once our deal came up. And I
want you guys to know, and I want the fans

(07:30):
to know. You know, we were trailblazers and I was
a part of that. You know, I had an idea
that when our deal came up, you know, we could
Tyler would get a solo deal under the same label.
I would get a record deal, and then we would
renegotiate a new record deal and something you know, I've
talked to many industry you know, record label heads, and

(07:54):
they talk about this ten year transformation. And we had,
you know, a solid ten years of commercial success. And
you know, how do you go from where we were
the next ten years? What does that look like? And
honoring not only myself, you know, my songwriting, but his songwriting.
He's a great songwriter. He's had songs cut by other
artists that I have nothing to do with, and vice versa.

(08:17):
And you know that fueled the group, and that fueled
both of us. Was waking up every day hunting down
songs and ideas, and you know, for to have another
trailblazing idea. My idea was, hey, let's keep everything going
and let's do a three hour set, no openers, let's

(08:37):
do solo songs, Let's do FGL songs and be under
the same umbrella and nothing changes. And so watching the
episode yesterday, you know, just so casual that you know,
he just he wanted to do FGL two. I wanted
to do it all. You know, I didn't think that
was out of bounds. You look at Lady A. You know,

(08:59):
Hillary does some solo records in the Christian space. Charles
Kelly has done some solo stuff. He does some shows,
and I love how that operates. I think that's pretty
special that you can you can honor yourself and you
can honor what you've built and you can continue forward.
So that's the mindset that I had. It wasn't just
I have to have a solo career. I would word

(09:21):
it as I wanted a solo outlet as a creative,
as a songwriter. So that's just I wanted to reshape.
You know that that part of the story for you guys,
because you know, I put a lot of thought into
what that could look like. You know, I had a
lot of conversations. I wrote out a pretty detailed plan,

(09:43):
and I don't think it's emotional. You know, it doesn't
have to be emotional. I was listening to things that
you know, it gets sticky about what songs go where.
I think it's easy to figure out it's it's it's
not emotional thing for me. When we're talking about business
and creativity and going forward and also, man, what we
had and what we built in a short amount of time,

(10:03):
people would give their entire lives for and some people
never get to that place. So I don't ever want
to downplay the success and everything that we built. It
means a lot to me. It still does. It's very
important and you know, like made a lot of history,
made a lot of memories. There's a great brotherhood there
and you know, so it's not some casual you know,

(10:26):
I wanted just to go off on my own. It
was very intentional about a new plan. How do we
genre bend, how do we trailblaze for another ten years?

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Right right, because you're right thinking you were getting to
the end of this was it the fifth record or.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
The fifth record?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
You're coming up on a deal and you're thinking the
way we've exploded something that you've been intentional about since
was the twenty sixteen and kind of put pen the
paper and everything else. In your mind, you're thinking, do
we just do the same thing and we think it's
going to carry or in your brain, how do we
kind of branch off for platform and leverage that we've
created to also you know, benefit ourselves and put it

(11:04):
all together, not benefit ourselves separately, but benefit ourselves and
like put everything together to make it seem like what
can we do different to add to our shadows our concerts?

Speaker 4 (11:12):
For sure? How do we show our talents and our
brand and ourselves in a different way that nobody's seen before.
So I thought that was a really good idea. And
obviously we couldn't, you know, really, at the end of
the day, agree on what that looked like. But I
just think it's important for people to know that I
didn't leave FGL. I didn't want to just do solo
and half ass FGL and y'all talked about, well, you know,

(11:35):
what would happen if a solo show came up for
me and an FGL show. It's the same thing with
y'all's podcast when y'all were still playing. It's like, my
main job is my main job. What I do with
my off time is my time, right, just like y'all,
And so you know, I was also curious about what
the conversation looked like with Rabes. You know, when you
guys wanted to do a podcast, and I know you

(11:57):
guys can relate to what you know, probably I was.
I was feeling, and I felt of wanting wanting to
do more and wanting to create more. Man, you know,
I'm an entrepreneur, I'm a songwriter, I'm an artist. Me
and my wife have multiple businesses together. Tyler and I
had multiple things running, you know, a great publishing company,
giving songwriters a voice and helping shape their creative talents.

(12:19):
And so we had a lot of irons in the
fire and having a lot of fun at it. So
it was really nothing new in a sense, but that's
kind of where I wanted to start.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, you know, well let's let's so just for clarity,
when was that fifth album done? When was that the end?

Speaker 4 (12:36):
What year was that we turned it? In May of
We turned that album in May of twenty twenty, so
it didn't come out till February. And I also, I
also would love to hit on this too. I think
it's important because I've read a lot of articles that
have some facts in there and some truth, and then
some are just not not on the timeline, you know.

(12:59):
For what it's worth, I just want to be factual here.
You know, Tyler had solo music out before I even did,
you know, before we even got our fifth album out.
You know, he had released a couple of songs. He
had played Biden's inauguration, which was a huge look to
be a solo act with Tim McGraw. He had released
another song and you know, my I didn't start releasing

(13:22):
music till April. So I just think that's that's I'd
love for fans and anybody listening to know that's the truth.
He was rocking at radio immediately, you know, top of
January of twenty twenty one, and I didn't get music
out till April, and then the album in June. And

(13:43):
you know, I created Sunshine State of Mind with a
sonic respect of what we had built. And also I
created Sunshine State of Mind in a time it's all good,
in a time where the world was shut down, you know.
Like I've always dove into songwriting and the highs and
lows of life. When life is good, I want to
write when life is bad or in between, I'm going

(14:04):
to write. And so it helped me get through a
hard time, you know, of being able to dive into
songs that aren't going to fit on the FGL record,
but songs that I can you know, that are authentic
to me and just get my voice out there. And
it was, you know, a passion project. Now now it's
a career, you know what I'm saying. It wasn't supposed

(14:26):
to be a career, but I have I through a
chain of events of some of what you heard. You know,
I wasn't able to do both right, and but your
goal was you wanted to do both?

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, absolutely want to have your outlet.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
And it was It wasn't casual. It was very thought out.
It was very intentional, very methodical, just like every every
move that I make.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
And so in that realm, when you talk about Lady
A and the people you're referring to who's kind of
done the thing that you were trying to be intentional
in creating, how do you give us some game on
how something like that works and stays together? Like did
you have conversations with any of these groups? Because then
there are also groups with ultimately where stuff gets sticky
and gets in the way you break up depending on

(15:08):
how the friction goes. But when you're creating this and
being intentional and pen to paper and everything else, what
does success look like with all that that you were
trying to present to both of you guys?

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Do you know what I mean? Yeah? I remember I
remember talking to Big Kenny back a couple of years ago,
and he was like, you know, all that matters is
if you guys are on the same page, that's all
that matters. And you know clearly we one hundred percent weren't.
But man, I mean we were at a point where
we were only playing twenty five at the high end,

(15:39):
maybe forty shows a year. We had just signed the
biggest Live nation deal probably a duo had ever signed,
and I was really looking forward to touring those dates
they ended up getting canceled, but was really looking forward
to connecting with fans, getting out there and doing what
we do. And to me, you know, nothing would have changed.

(16:00):
It's like, it's just like what when I have free
time because we're not burning up the road like we
used to. You know, it's a very select amount of shows.
You know, a couple of things, and it's a lot
of free time. Like they can go on vacation, they
have kids, you know, they have different priorities and things
that they love to do, just like you know me

(16:21):
and my family, and you know, a lot of my
off time, I like to work on songs. I like
to get creative and work on other things.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
And so.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
To me, I worded it that nothing would change. It's
like we can we can figure out what that looks
like specifically on you know, figuring out a week to
block out writing some songs or recording like I'll never
not be there. I just I just thought it was
a great look for both of us. Like I encouraged,

(16:51):
like I said, you know him to do some solo.
I want to do some solo, and then we'll continue
to do what we've always done and in Trailblaze. Right
to me, nothing has changed, Like you didn't miss football
practice to come to a pod. No, no, you know
what I'm saying, And here's that. And I just want
you to know it's like starting over as a solo

(17:13):
artist for both of us. It's like, well, do I
go do a BK show and make and lose money
or do I go make what we make for FGL.
It's a no brainer, right, And so I just I
think it's important to hear my experience and my heart.
Oh absolutely, from kind of how how we conceptualize this

(17:36):
idea and how I thought of it. But really, yeah,
I didn't. I didn't want anything to change. It's like,
you do what you want to do on your free time.
That's great. I want to do what I want to
do on my free time, and you know, we'll schedule
dates out to record crush some shows continue to make
money for our families on something that we've given thirteen

(17:58):
fourteen years of our life too, that that not many
people have the opportunity to even do. You know, So.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
When did it start? When did it start to go sideways?
Because you had mentioned earlier about what was it February
of twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Twenty one the first album or first songs?

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, yeah, so Tyler Solos come out.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Solos came out in February of twenty one. Tyler on
the when he sat on the bus so that BK
came to him and wanted to go solo. That's what
we were saying is incorrect. That's partially the truth, not
fully the truth is what you're saying, right.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, was he already starting to do solo stuff? I
got a call in while you were trying to figure out, like.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Yeah, I wasn't ready to make an announcement on having
solo outlets and and do that. He really thought it
was necessary to do that in January January third or fourth,
you can go back and look on fgl Instagram of
twenty one. It was his idea to go on and say, hey,
we're gonna be doing some different things. We're going to tour,
And that was only because he had a song with

(19:03):
McGraw coming out Undivided, and he was gonna be playing,
like I said to Biden inauguration and starting to get
out there and get visible as a solo artist. So
I wasn't even ready to make that announcement because I'm like, yo,
our album. So his song came out in January, Our
record was coming out in February, and I was ready

(19:24):
to like ride that out, go do press, you know,
and focus on that, and not in a place where
I wanted to rush out this announcement and not even
ready for that.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
So when that announcement happened, you weren't wanting that to go, no,
to go live.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
When you were. You brought the Biden inauguration a couple
of times. That obviously is a big deal because of
how polarizing the political political stuff has been for that
the last ten years. Was that a conversation that both
of you had whether that was appropriate or not for
FGL a representative of FGL to go do that or
did that kind of.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Because a lot of people do thing think a lot
of the breakup was political.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
That's where that's what I was getting at it is
because you know he does abide an inauguration shortly after that.
You guys are now solo careers, and there's not a
whole lot of communication. Did you guys speak about that
before Tyler did it? Or it's kind of I was down.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
I was down in uh, South Florida looking at boats,
and he called me and he said, hey, I've already
recorded it. You know, I'm putting a song with Tim out.
So I was told what was happening, right, and he said,
we're gonna play the inauguration. How are you gonna be
a moment? To be honest with you, I was just
a little caught off guard because you know, I was

(20:34):
told that and I was on board with this that.
You know, no solo music comes out before the FGL record, right,
So I was all on board. And then to get
a call saying, you know, he's going to make a
very visible statement and performance before the record and then
go go right to radio. Uh, you know, definitely a
little caught off guard. But you know, at the end

(20:57):
of the day, where were.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
You January sixth? Just get that. Sorry, we just watched
the Tom Brady that question that well, and I just
asked you tread those waters.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
You did, because that's a tough time. You're like Biden Trump,
You're just like.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Man, you know, going on concerts. It's like concerts were
getting canceled. Some some artists still toured, like maybe maybe
Tyler didn't want to, maybe you do. I'm so curious
how everything was unfolding. That's what I'm asking you.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Now. You know, I've read a lot and people have said,
you know, it was political and all that, but you know,
really the public the public issues started. I believe it
was right after right after the election in twenty twenty.
You know, he he and his wife had unfollowed us,
and you know he I'm not I'm not exaggerating. You know,

(21:49):
he got on It's you can go look up the videos.
But he said, you know, BK was posting some stuff,
some political stuff, and I didn't want to see it.
And he you know, told me that he liked me
better in person, not online. That caught me off guard
as well, for my brother to have those thoughts and feelings.
But so that was the first kind of thing that

(22:10):
happened where, you know, publicly people I could see how
they started framing that.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
For sure, but because very heightened at that time, extremely
heightened at that time.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Yeah, for everybody. But you know, I grew up in
a world where you know, my dad was in politics
for twenty years city commissioner, mayor, county chair, and I
watched him move and progress city counties along with different
minded people. And that's what makes America great is people

(22:42):
that see things differently but can still get it done
at the end of the day. Yeah, right, that's my mindset.
That's how I approached it. So you know, for me
and my family, it wasn't political. We didn't unfollow anybody.
I was ready to go to work.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
And so now it's a lot of this stuff being
just unlike, there's not a lot of communication going on,
and then you're both kind of finding out just things
on the internet or are you guys kind of in
tune with each other the whole time, knowing that there's
some instability happening. It's just more of a ticking time.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, we were talking. You know, we got on a podcast.
You know, a day or two after that, there's like
a Rolling Stones article that came out about the unfollowing.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, we got on.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
I got on. I didn't want to get on and
do that, but got on to try to do some
damage control. I don't think that did any good.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Well, okay, you go on a podcast to do some
damage control. You guys have each other's phone numbers. Did
you guys try to call each other about it? Or
was it like we'll settle this in the public eye.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Uh, I mean, it wasn't really uh too much of
a heated thing at that time, like right after the election.
It mean, it wasn't It wasn't terrible. We were chatting
and you know he did call me and tell me,
I like you better in person not online. Yeah, and
he told me that it's.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Tough words to hear, so that one person that we
know that hits us up on and to be honest,
oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
And so I think one of the things that triggered
him was, you know, I had an American flag and
another flag flying on a close friends post to about
twelve people and in my driveway gated nobody could see it.
And you know, I think that was the one that
was to my close friends who he was on that list,

(24:36):
and if it was anything public I posted, I posted
a couple of things, but I'm I'm proud that I
posted it. I said, you know, I'm not sure why
we're still locked down. If there's going to be you know,
big you know, protests in the streets and big celebrations,
but we can't go do concerts. Yeah, I don't really

(24:57):
understand that. And I was backing the blue collar hard workers,
the people that don't have a voice, people that need
that kind of backup support, people like my dad, the
way that I grew up. You know what I'm saying,
people that were out of business, out of work, in
a tough spot, losing their everything that they've worked for.

(25:17):
You know, I watched your boss Dave raise a ton
of money during that time, very inspiring, and you know
I was I was ready to get out there and
play concerts man.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
You know.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
And again back where.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
You guys are having concerts, if if both of you
say yes, we want to do concerts, or was it
more of like a label thing where it's like, hey,
we're not going to go do No.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
It wasn't a label thing in terms of live shows.
You know, I think it was up to us, Yeah,
for sure.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
And there was a disagreement between the two of you
whether you should have life concerts or not.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
I think at the time, you know, I think there
was there was you know, I know we canceled our
ore twenty twenty one fall to her, which I was
really excited about. But you know, navigating through that was
not easy, right, being ready to being ready to go.

(26:14):
But you know, kind of that that kind of is
what it is.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's a that's a tough world. If
you guys both have different views on what's going on,
and you're wanting to play concerts and I'm assuming by
you saying you wanted to, I'm only going to have
to assuming that Tyler didn't want to and there's a
big disagreement.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
I mean, think about all this stuff in the NFL
that was happening, like in our locker rooms, like when
we're having to do all the tedious things and some
guys are like, hey, dude.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
The Tits got put under an investigation where the NFL
looked at all of our tapes to see if guys
were wearing you were bad guys. These were one of
the guys that were trying to get serious swear.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
I posted something after the game like we were celebrating
to win.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, after the Bills game.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, and stretchers like, hey, you need to take this
down because the NFL will hammered down on us. Like
I know we're celebrating a win, but you need to
have your mask on. I'm just thinking that this is
so gay it dude, it really.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
It was crazy because there was a time where we're
supposed to play the Steelers, right, yeah, canceled, supposed to
play Steelers. That game gets canceled. Then like four days
they're like, hey, you guys are playing the Bills on Tuesday.
We gotta get ready, but we can't come in the
facility because they were doing an investigation on the Titans.
So you guys go practice, So the Office of Lineman
Receiver stuff like that. We all dispersed and dispersed. We
kind of went and did our thing, and that was Yeah.

(27:27):
Well they started looking at cameras of all the NFL
teams and they're like, well, we can't punish all of them.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Right, Yeah, I didn't know it was dude.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
It was a I think it was kind of underreccause
somebody took a photo of the DB's practicing in a
park or yeah. Yeah, basically like told on us. Yeah snitched, yeah, snitch,
like we're trying to get ready for the bills. We
gotta do something.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
We we actually won that game too. We were literally like,
we don't ever have to practice.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Brought to you by Zoom, Sponsored by Zoom. We don't
have to practice anymore. Never.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
We were fresh. That was amazing. Yeah, we had we
had a big outbreak. Bunch of you guys got the
Vida the boys lost a lot of good boys out there.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Man.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
It was tough, dude.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I my question in your opinion, obviously there's a lot
of there's a multitude of things, but in your opinion,
what was the breaking point for you guys? And also
second question, when you think back on some of the
way you navigated it, what are some things you look
back on about. Okay, I could have approached it differently.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
You know, I fought the good fight to keep FGL
going and to continue to kind of put together a
plan on what that would look like. You know, we
we were doing our last you know, festival shows in
twenty twenty two. We did probably twelve or fourteen of them,
and we were killing it. It was great, and I
was you know, we were talking in person and even
you know, via email and saying hey, the demand is there,

(28:51):
you know, like, okay, we're kind of nice. This it's
I don't think us having solo outlets as effect thing
our main business and our main brand and what we've spent,
you know, our entire adult lives doing clearly not affecting that.
But breaking point. I don't know if there's that. I

(29:20):
don't know if there's a breaking point per se. But
you know, he this is this is this part is true.
I mean he said, you know, that was his boundary.
And if he thought it was best to support me
by cutting off something that I put my life into
as well, that's one way to support somebody. I didn't

(29:42):
agree with it. I was very protective of our brand,
very protective about every move that we made about you know,
are we going to go on and announce we're done
on CBS Sunday Mornings. No, I'm not. I'm not done.
I'm not going on it. I don't want to do that.
I don't want to be done. So it's just you know,

(30:04):
seeing things in a different light. And I think he
was very concerned about what a solo outlet for me
specifically would do to the brand. And you know, he
voiced that many times to me and.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
What did he think it would do to the brand?

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Water it down?

Speaker 2 (30:23):
And at this point he has solo stuff out, okay, because.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
I'm also yeff, let's put more clarity on that. So
you and Tyler are having conversations. He's saying, if you
do a solo act, it's going to water down fgl
But at the same time he had a solo act
going on, or he was in the middle of cutting
solo stuff. It was, it was.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
These are the initial conversations, probably September October of twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Now for those of us who don't know, how long
does it take to write a song like Undivided? Cause
I think that when I listened to you talk and
I heard Tyler talk because I went back and listened
to it, I texted you today too. You should probably
listen to it because we're touch a lot on it
is there is such a big miscommunication between the two
of you because Tyler feels like he was blindsided. You
feel like you were blindsided in a way too that

(31:08):
you're like, how does this not all work? So obviously
it's a lack of communication. But now we're talking about
timelines because that's what's really important because if Tyler is
saying that's where I draw the line as we're not
doing solo acts, but at the same time he's cutting
solo acts, well, then we can see where there's a
problem there. But if it's like, I want to just
know chronologically how this all worked out, so we can
all kind of figure out a way to.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Get fall of twenty twenty. When I went to him,
I had written a pile of songs after taking some
months off.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
We like I said, when you guys canceled the tour
and everything, this.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Is this is call Yeah, you're you're all fall out.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
By then all of twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Undivided came out January.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Okay, okay, all right, I'm called it.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
And so you know, the initial conversations probably September that
was when you know, he was very concerned about you
know it watering, you know down. But again I went
to him with the idea of, look, it's not just me,
like you can spread your wings, I can spread my wings,
and we can continue to spread the wings of fgl right,

(32:11):
and the label we don't have to have different man
like it could all be under one thing and be
supportive in that way and growing right. It was a
couple of months after that, you know where I was,
you know, he's you know, no music out till the
FGL records out. And then December probably third or fourth
of twenty twenty, is when I got a call when

(32:33):
I was looking at a boat, like I said of
you know, hey, I'm we got to make an announcement soon.
You know, I'm putting out a song with McGraw, going
to radio doing this.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
So so December he calls you says, I got a
song come out in McGrath, but there was a deal
made that we're not going to have any solo stuff
released until February when the new FGL album comes out.
How did you receive that information when he when he
told you that, no other than the political thing I'm

(33:03):
talking about from you your partners reaching out to.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
You about the song, about the song, and that when there's.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
A when in what you were saying is there was
an agreement already.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
Yeah, I'm just surprised, I mean shocked for sure, Just
like Okay, I thought we had a deal, you know,
about what the plan was, so I just didn't I
didn't think it was going back to my main my
main thing is protecting FGL. I didn't think that was

(33:34):
a good look. Yeah, if I'd have done it or
he did it right. You know, again, FGL was my
top priority, and you know too, I remember y'all were
talking about, you know, giving fifty percent to a solo
career and fifty percent to FGL. I wasn't wanting to
put one hundred percent and start all the way over

(33:54):
and play clubs and do all that. I don't mind
it now because I have to and I'm building and
I'm excited about it now. But for people to know
how the origin of this all happened, you know, a
lot of people think I just left and wanted to
do solo stuff because that's what he's saying. But to
give context, you know, I was, like I said, very

(34:17):
methodical about how we grow and I want to keep
this together. It's important to me. This is a once
in a lifetime thing. And again, you know, we talked
about it for years. We went to you know, on
site in twenty eighteen and chatted about this this plan
of you know, once our record contract's done, we're going
to renegotiate and have freedom. You know, there was a time,

(34:40):
you know, when we didn't even write separate, and you
know we kind of I kind of pushed for It's
okay if we write things separate. Man, I'm a fan
of you, you're a brother. I support that. I'm not
going to get jealous If So and so cut your
song and it goes number one, I'm happy for you.
That only helps me and that's how it should be. Vice.

(35:03):
Everybody winning is good for everybody, right right?

Speaker 1 (35:07):
So okay, trying to break all this down in my head,
break it down. So you guys had a conversation in
twenty eighteen about having possibly doing your own solo thing.
When that conversation happened, was the plan the idea fully
formulated in your head of Hey, we should do solo

(35:29):
acts as our opening acts and do a three hour
show of FGL. Or were you still working through an idea?
How is the communication between you and Tyler in twenty
eighteen twenty first idea came up?

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Yeah, not not probably that then, but keeping FGL together
was top priority.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Right and you both agreed on that. Yeah, you both
were like FGL is the number one thing. Yeah. So
now we fast forward. He's released that song with Tim McGraw,
the album comes out in February. At what point is
are you guys like we're done? And who sent the
divorce letter in?

Speaker 4 (36:03):
You know, here's here's here's what happened. The boundary was,
the boundary changed over time. The boundary was, if you
want to do that, we're not gonna make fgl music
for the foreseeable future. That well, that's not what I want.
But that's what I told him. I said, I hear
what you're saying, but that's not what I'm asking for.

(36:24):
That's not what I want. So I was like, all right, well,
I'm gonna make some music and we're gonna we had
a touring deal, we're gonna looking for We're still going
to tour. We're all excited about that. Uh, the songs
came out his song January, he had another song come out.
My songs come out, you know, right after my album

(36:45):
came out in June. Was kind of when you know,
it was kind of a made known to me that
we were, you know, kind of kind of done.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Made known from somebody on on your team for nineteen.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Now Tyler from Tyler.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, so Tyler reached out to you personally or did
you reach out to you through people oh, personally and
he said, hey, FGL is done.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
Yeah. It went from you know, no music in the
foreseeable future to you know, now now we're not even
going to tour. You know, he was, you know, I'm
just I'm just here to tell the truth. I'm not
here to try to burn down anything whatever. I'm here
to stand up for myself and my family and like
I said, the fans. So you know, he was trying
to get out of the twenty twenty two festival dates
that we had already committed to because he didn't want

(37:30):
to be seen with me really and be seen as
a duo, because he was already ready to you know,
push his solo career and overdrive.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
So obviously I can see where you're coming from now
when I received that phone call yesterday, when because you
guys are saying exactly you us are saying the same things,
but yourself, like you're saying that you want to do FGL.
He's saying he wanted to do FGL. But both of
you think that the others broke up FGL. How does
that communication like get so lost in translation when you
guys are together for twelve years before that doing the

(37:59):
bar barbecues, pop it an addy, and headed to the
next spot. Two. Now we're megastars, Like, how does the
communication be between the two of you just evaporate?

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Because when they're therapy involved as well.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
You know, I don'tn't think the communication evaporated. I think
you know, I put in a lot of work, uh,
individually and together to help lead the way to to
chat with you know, uh, business coaches, mental health coaches,
multiple different options. So I don't think it was a
lack of communication. Maybe it maybe it wasn't just you know,

(38:35):
me having an extra outlet. I'm not one hundred percent sure,
but to lay it down that you know, BK wanted
to go solo and just wanted your support and just
it's just not it's just not the whole truth. There's
no context around these sound bites and these clickbait things
that he's saying that y'all are putting out. You know
what I'm saying, It's like it's important for me to

(38:59):
have my voice heard, just like I wanted to have
my voice heard outside of FGL.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Right, So is UH talk to us about when you
guys are you guys, when you guys are meeting with mentors,
business coaches, therapists, whatever it is. Are you guys all
in the same room talking through this same stuff.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
We've done in the room and then at a time,
you know, in the heigh of COVID, I think there's
a lot of zoom too, So we've done both.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Did it ever feel like it was progressing the right way?
Or did it just feel like, you know, things are
just going to be dividing even further when you're getting
off those calls and sit with your wife, or you
feel like, I feel like we're making some progress, or man,
we might be farther away than I thought we were,
or how I take us through those.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
Man, it was just a little bit of a grind
to try to to try to find a place that
we could meet in the middle and understand each other.
But it just it just never got to that place.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, is there any any way in your mind that
FGL gets back together one day?

Speaker 4 (39:54):
Yeah? I mean, you never know, man, I mean, look
at the Eagles, look at I mean, there's there's lots
of groups that have that have you know, gone through
way worse things than we have. You know, at the
height of everything, it just never was really terrible it's
just seeing things different.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
And would you would you get the band back together?
They could bust with the boys, potentially potentially fixed.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, I mean all we're asking for is like, you know, would.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
You get you down to five a conversation? Same same,
but there is like.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
All messed up.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
But it is good, So would you that's fine? Just
keep playing with it? Would you want to get the
band back together?

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Man? I think time will tell you know, I'm I'm
really focused on what I'm doing now. I know he's
really focused. He just dropped an album, and I know
he's putting a lot of hard work into what he's doing,
just just as I am.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
And so.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
We'll have to see. Man. You know, I'm sure the
fans would like it. I'm sure the fans would would
love that. Man. I'm I'm I feel like I'm pretty
in tune with with the fans. And you know, even
on country radio they're jam in FGL song still a ton,
So I'll just have to see.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yeah, yeah, it's bangs the one.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
What's your favorite song, Mitch?

Speaker 2 (41:25):
You know it's Cruise.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
You know it's Cruise when you when you go to
her solo act, did you play FGL songs as well.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
No, I haven't.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yeah, I feel like that be odd if you're like
singing Tyler's poets or Tyler's doing it and he's singing
your parts, it's kind of like, yeah, well you're like
kind of singing it. I'm sure like you guys both.
The thing that I'm trying to figure out and I
don't know how to get there because I don't have
the degree for it is there's obvious hurt on both sides,
and both of you feel hurt for different reasons. Well,
it kind of seems like the same reasons.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Both both males just trying to be stoic, trying to
be reserved, right, but knowing that there's some depth, Like both.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Of you have the same exact energy coming on this
bus now. When you call me yesterday, I could see
I could hear the hurt in your voice. Very understandable,
all that you come on here, calm, Yeah, it's passionate
you and you need to have that absolutely.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
I did say like, oh ma, BK's not that the
way Taylor's explained it. I was like getting a haircut
of time. I was like, oh shit, for real, man,
juicy BK. On the bus, I think could be sold.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
It'll be crazy, but it is. It's so it's I
just wish we could figure out, like the core of
where you both were hurt, how it'll like, and how
you essentially fix it. If nothing else, then just to
have a relationship again, because but you spend twelve years
of your life with somebody, traveling all over the world
having the success you did, Like, there's got to be
a piece of you that misses him a little bit.

(42:45):
It's got to be tough, well.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Miss it all. Yeah, I mean, it's it's a big
part of our life. Man. It was very very special,
you know. It's it's dreams and dreams and dreams came true,
you know, doing what we did together. Yeah, like I said,
very special. I was gonna hit another point something you
just said a second ago, but I forgot what I.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Was talking about. Well, the beginning part was me talking
about how you guys both seem hurt by the situation,
but I can't figure out what the exact point of
hurt was. It to me, the way I am viewing
both of your stories, I'm trying to play Tyler's story
back in my head while also listening to you. Is
you guys, there was there was a conversation. I don't
know where that conversation was, but somebody spoke about and

(43:26):
I feel like we can say that you brought songs
to the table first, being like I wrote these, kind
of being like excited, kind of like I do with Will,
Like sometimes I'll hear an opportunity, I'll get real excited
for Will, and Will doesn't know how to react to
me because he's like, I don't know, like do you
what do you want from me? And then after that
it kind of just seems like it was just a
slow bleed until you guys died, and I don't like

(43:46):
there was you know, the inauguration. We talked about that,
We talked about him releasing songs before, Like when you say.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
I think getting back to my love of FGL and
the brand and all the hard work and the fans.
That's one of the reasons that you know, I haven't
played FGL songs. I'm really proud of those and I
miss playing those together. Right, that's to me where they
should live. I think with with some of these half

(44:13):
truths with no context quotes coming out and maybe him
playing FGL songs, one would assume that he's carrying on
fg L without me, right, it appeared it can appear
that way, So out of out of respect of what
we've built together, that's that's why I don't, you know,

(44:34):
and maybe I will one day, you never know. They're
great songs, and I had a hand in writing a
lot of our hits, so you know it, it really
comes down to, you know, I love our brand, I
love what we built, and I was very very protective
and not wanting to announce that we were done because

(44:55):
I wasn't done.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
So yeah, when you when you go back to the
call when you were in South Florida and he talks
to you about writing the song with McGraw that's gonna
come out, YadA YadA, and you say, and I don't
know how you responded, but you said, you know, I
thought that we had something going on. We had we
were figuring something out. Like what is his response when
you were saying something like that, because I'm assuming it'side,

(45:17):
So I thought we had something going on here. And
then you're just like, well that's sick, bro. And then
you guys hang up and it just you go your
ways about it, like how is that conversation unfolding when
you're under the assumption of something else and you were
trying to Hey, bro, I thought we I thought we
you know, we're going to do X, Y and Z.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
I mean to be honest with you, I just let
it happen. When the song's already recorded and you've got
a record label that's ready to push it and have
this moment, not much you can do.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Yeah, so yeah, damn well Tyler during the interview, so
we asked Tyler about like the breakup and the fans
are kind of clamoring wondering what was going on, and
Tyler said in our podcast that he didn't feel like
it was his place to say what was going on.
He felt it was for you to say what was
going on, kind of putting that situation, saying that it

(46:08):
came from you, that you wanted to go solo. That's
how this kind of all originated. Where was the conversation.
Was there ever a conversation about, like, you guys, how
you're going to announce a breakup, why you should be
the one to do it, why Tyler should be the
one to do it or do it together? Was there
anything like that?

Speaker 4 (46:21):
Yeah, we went back and forth multiple times and I
just I really wasn't willing to do it.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Yet you weren't willing to do it because you didn't
want the breakup to happen.

Speaker 4 (46:31):
No, I mean, it's it's not just yeah, it's two
people right right, It's like one wants it over and
one doesn't.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
But the thing that's crazy is both you guys are
saying you're the ones that got broken up with. You know,
you guys are both the ones that seem the most
like you're like we Tyler, we use the analogy of
like getting divorced, Like someone comes to you and they
have sense to give you an ultimatum and they essentially
choose sleeping with the neighbors. However, Tyler said it, and
now you're saying, like you didn't want it, you didn't
want to release this stuff. So you guys are both

(46:59):
saying the same thing that you didn't want to leave Florida,
Georgia line. That's what I'm trying to figure out.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
I think too, Like it's like he says it's important
for him to like kind of speak his truth and
give context around the whole thing, And there's probably the
ultimately it's like you're not just gonna be like, well
he said this, you know what I mean. Yeah, it's
like you're trying to like speak, I wish you would.
You're trying to tell your side of everything while trying
not to be like like I'm not I'm not coming
on here to just be like, oh he said this
whole time I said this, he said that, right, you
know what I mean. I feel like that's kind of

(47:24):
hard to be like, I see what you're saying. It's
like both of them feel like they were caught off guard.
They're both not not necessarily wanting it to happen, and
it's like, well then how could you guys not figure
it out?

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Like this is this is the this is the actual
breakup that happens where you know they're going to see
each other at a bar one night and go home
together because there's just so much they don't know. They
both have a couple of dreams to see each other,
like why did we break up? And they kind of
just go home and do the thing and they wake
up and they remember exactly why.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah, like Samuel Jackson shows up and trying to get
the Avengers together.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Yes, yeah, I don't understand that reference, but yes, yes, well,
I'm gonna agree with you on that. I'll tell what
we need to do. Let's get the boys back together.
Not together in a band, but get them in a
room together and hash it out.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Would you guys come on the bus together?

Speaker 4 (48:08):
No?

Speaker 2 (48:08):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (48:11):
What's where? Where's the Hey?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Maybe we start, let's talk about the good time. Let's
talk about the beginning.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Yeah, what's the record?

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Yeah? Record?

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Hey, was Kiss My Boots about Tyler?

Speaker 4 (48:22):
It's about a lot of people. Y'all aren't careful. It's
gonna be about I want to write. No, man, it's
uh that song. That song special to me and my
co writers. You know it. Really, I could tell you
right now. Being in the music industry, and I'm sure
being a professional athlete and being in the entertainment industry,

(48:46):
y'all probably have a growing list of people that are
on your kiss my Boots list, right. It's not directed
at one person. It's not you know, the day we
wrote that song, I didn't show up having that tie.
I didn't show up thinking we're gonna write that song.
That song came through. Man. I had a guy on

(49:08):
zoom and then two buddies in the room and we
spent hours going over starting songs, starting songs, had a
chorus here, and finally we were like, man, I go, hey,
let's take a break. I need a bite to eat,
and I'm not really loving anything that we're doing. Let's
come back in fifteen minutes. Come back fast lunch, my buddy, Yeah,
fast lunch. My buddy had to get off zoom get

(49:29):
ready for a show. He was out of state. So
I said, hey, two co writers in the room, are
y'all down to stay later? It's a Friday night. And
just through being patient man and looking for no pun intended,
looking for the truth in every session in every writer's room,
every day, right, And so we just started talking about
things and my buddy Dylan was like, throughout a line
that sparked that song. And then we're all pulling from personal,

(49:53):
you know, experiences and just collaborating on the idea. But
he started with the line you know comes that with
the whiskey, and so that that that started the song
and we landed. I remember landing on the hook with
kiss my Boots, and I just I love the song man,
It's just it. Songwriting to me is magic. I have

(50:16):
so much respect for songwriters songwriting game, because there's days
that happened like that, where you sit and you're patient
and you're waiting for that spark of authenticity and truth,
and then there's days like, you know, I have a
song called Trucks, Ducks, Bucks and Beer. Like I had
that title, I saved it for the right group. I
knew I was gonna write that song that day.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
So it's just it's such a it's such a funny thing,
but that song for real, I mean, it's it at
the end of the day, I want people to make
it their own. I want people to hear it and go, damn.
I I felt that way, and I've lived it and
I've got I've got a couple of people on my
my kiss my Boots list, and you know, some of
the best comments I've seen on that are like, yo, BK,

(50:56):
thanks for the new workout jam, thanks for thanks for
channeling and putting to a song what I've been dealing with. Right,
So that's that's been the greatest thing about the song.
You know, it's just uh, you know, the whole album
is is definitely like a party. It's positive, or's love songs.
There's songs about being on you know, a bunch of acres,

(51:19):
riding around an old blazer, hanging with Brittany and my wife,
you know. And I put that song last just because
it's it's enough, uh seriousness in one song to make
up for the for the brightness of the rest of
the record. But you know, life is life is life,
and I know we've all been through, you know, points
in our life where we all get thrown curveballs, no

(51:40):
matter who you are. And so I put that song
out just to let people know that, you know, I'm
a real human. I'm not just a you know, a
face on the screen or just some just some guy
up on stage. Like you know, I I go through things.
I've been through things all through my life that are
highs and lows, and I song right through them. I
always have and I always will.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
How is it being that vulnerable over your own lyrics
when you're essentially giving it to an audience for them
to evaluate whether it's good or not.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
Yeah, you know, I think you just have to let
go at some point, you know, I think you just
have to be just work hard on it. Man. You
get it to a point where you're like, Okay, I'm
proud of myself I sing as good as I could.
The musicians kicked ass on this. It sounds amazing, NIX
sounds great, it's thumping, you know, depending on the song,

(52:30):
whatever it may be. But there's a point where you're
you have no control about how people are going to
react good, bad in between. They hate it whatever, they
love it if it explodes, you know. So you have
to as an artist because dude, I could still be
working on this record and fine tuning it and drive yourself,
you know, and like, oh I wrote another song, let's

(52:51):
add to it like I can. You could do that
for days, you know what I'm saying. So there comes
a point where you have to really just like, Okay,
this thing's done. Whatever happens happens. I hope it's positive.
I hope. I hope it's great. I hope it helps
my career. I hope it continues to build my fan base.
I hope they can relate to it.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Yeah, But being this your second solo album, what is
the feeling of going into the second one as opposed
to going into the front like the first solo album
after FGL, like playing stadiums all that. Yeah, now you're
in a solo act and you're putting out the first album,
but the same nerves still they are putting this one
out that comes out Friday.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
Yeah, I guess a little bit.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
You know.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
I just think of these the two projects that I
have so differently, you know, like it was all fun
in Games and it was it was such a passion
project and such a release for me to put time
and time into songwriting and making that first record Sunshine
State of Mind. Obviously COVID weird times is like, yeah,
I'm writing songs, man like that that helps me. And

(53:50):
so uh, this time this go around, you know, we
don't have any FGL dates on the books, Like there's
no foreseeable future for for the group, and so I
consider Tennessee Truth, you know, my debut record. There's you know,
it's the first. It's the first project where I'm standing
as a as a solo artist with a career, not

(54:12):
just trying to have an extra outlet that doesn't compete
with f g L if that makes sense. So, like
I said, man, everything along along the way from me
has been methodical and very intentional and trying to be
as respectful to the fans and the brand that we
built as as as much as I could.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
What first off, Tennessee truth is a dope name.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
That's a minute you said almost named it Tennessee tone.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Tennessee tone, truth made.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
Wanes, It's truth.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
You're right sweety stairs at a paper for three hours,
just walks that one keeps walking over writing songs. When
did you find that passion as a kid as you
got older? Like what made you know that? Oh shit,
I can I got like doing this? Only do I
like doing this? This can be something for me?

Speaker 4 (55:06):
Yeah, it would be. I mean I started writing poems
like in high school, freehand, like trying to figure out
if I could turn it into a song. You know,
it's like right before I started playing guitar. But I
remember like writing out like lyrics or words, and I
always like poems growing up. And my dad loves like
little sayings and poems and he'll make things rhyme, and like,

(55:29):
you know, I was always the guy looking up songwriters
and the you know, CD covers and like oh snap,
that's Craig Wismer, that's Jeffrey Steele, or that's you know,
Tony Ratta. All you know, I was very in the
know of what a songwriter was, and you know, got
a guitar when I was about sixteen years old at
a flea market with my dad. And uh, it didn't

(55:51):
start hitting heavy till freshman year at Florida State. You know,
I was writing songs during class, like I didn't need
to party.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
What's that between party Florida State?

Speaker 4 (56:01):
You know, you know, surprising shock her. I really didn't
party at Florida State.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
But you have a gold chain on that has a
bass on it, you party number one?

Speaker 4 (56:09):
It's a tarpin.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Disrespect. You know.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
I did more worship leading at Florida State than partying.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Really, Oh yeah, no ship, Yeah, all right, that's nothing
but the Tennessee truth right there.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
No, I really, I really didn't. I really didn't partake
and uh at Florida State for my two years there.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
That is wild. So Florida State is when you found like, okay,
this is what I want.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't stop thinking about songs and
I'd get a title that pop in my head and
class and like at that point, I didn't even need
a guitar. I could write out the lyrics, I could
hear how it could go. I'd get home, get my guitar,
put it on my little you know, I had a little,
uh little shitty recording program my roommate had given me
so I could get it down, so I like could
have it forever and remember that, you know, you.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Still have it.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
No, it was on my old Dell computer. I have
no freaking idea where it was a block, man, I
mean it was it was, it was a block. I
have no idea. I mean it may be in a
storage unit. I've looked for it.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
That's mine. Give it back.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
But obviously you're you're a natural writer. But get like
you were saying earlier, this you feel like this is
your debut solo album. What what is this album you
know mean to you? And also like what have been
the learning curves with kind of getting back to the
basics even though you naturally are a writer, Like being
solo on your own.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
This record means a lot to me. You know, it's
it's a songwriter's album. I'm so grateful for all the
collaborators and songwriters and being able to you know, mend
our worlds together and find something that we all love.
That that means a lot to me too, and that
hopefully you know, people that listen to it, they're like Yo,
that's my life too. It's a simple record, man, like
I love. You know, I have a song called bare

(57:54):
Feet or Boots, and that's the lifestyle I live. Man.
You know, like I love. I love being on the farm.
I love being in the woods. I love being at
the beach. I love being in the backwaters the lake.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
You know.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
I you know my morals and the way that I
operate or you know, God, family, country, and I love
working hard. I love having something to look forward to,
you know what I'm saying. Just like the people that
are going to be listening to this man, you know,
my world revolves around you know, working hard, my wife,
creating time for us to make new memories. And you know,

(58:27):
like what's what's biting? All right? Well, we're actually in Florida.
I'm checking my bass, you know, app I'm hitting some
of the locals. What are you know, snapper biting yet?
Snapper season? How many? How many can we get? Now?
You know what's you know on my little trail cam?
You know, oh damn, there's a turkey, there's a deer.
You know, that's it's a It's a pretty simple life

(58:49):
that you know, I know we've come from, you know,
stadiums and arenas and all these things. But when you
strip it down, you know, me and Brittany are really simple, man,
Like our favorite nights are. You know, I've had quite
a few Friday nights at the house, you know, since
starting his solo career and writing for the record. You know,
I really wasn't on the road. I was home a

(59:10):
lot writing and so we had a lot of free
you know, weekends and Friday nights. It's like, yo, dogs
are hanging out, We're cooking some meals and I'm watching
freaking twenty twenty. You know what I'm saying, Like, I
love that.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Well, there's a vacancy out there. I don't know if
you heard, but the great Toby Keith just passed. And
when you hit me with a god Family Country thought
he could be the next to Keith. You should be
the next guy red solo Cup.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
You tell you just one to get into some twenty twenty.
I've never watched. I've never binged that shit.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
I'm gonna help solve a crime one day. Oh you,
Oh yeah, that guy, it's happening.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Those shows are incredible.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
It may be a cold case, it may be a
current you know, new one I'm.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Freaking the murder mystery stuff. Dude.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
I had to sit in a deposition the last two days,
no way, and uh, just hearing these lawyers talk, I
found out there's no way I could help you a lawyer.
We we would go in and they would just be
talking back and forth, and then we'd go into a
room and I'm like, Okay, tell me everything that just happened.
Because you're literally like a six year old watching like
cloud out lists or something like that, not even able

(01:00:10):
to register how smart these individuals are. So all that
to be said, I would never be able to solve
a case. It ain't happening for me. Brother, I'm not
putting anybody in jail.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Important question for you. Are you a beach or a
lake guy? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Yeah, he did because you heard your name the Yeah,
this is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
A big one on the bus.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
You know our place in Florida. We don't live on
the beach. We live like right off the beach. We
live on a coastal dune leg so pretty special little
spot kind of surrounded by the state park. So honestly,
really both because the stand and pick one, you have
to well, look, we all enjoy you know what I'm saying,

(01:00:51):
so what do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
You enjoy more?

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
If you had to pick on activity, you got one
more day at the beach house, you your kids are
sitting there. It's split fifty fifty down the middle. You
can either go sand ocean waves life, sea life, or
you can go over here, woods, boat, wakeboarding, those types
of things. Which one are you picking?

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Man, If it's going as what we call down in
Greaton beach. If it's going off in Greaton, which means
the golf is laid down, freaking teal blues. Look, it
looks like a lake. It's flat, weather's freaking popping. We're
going to beach day. We're getting the truck out there,
we can drive on the beach. I'm getting all my coolers,
I'm getting my umbrellas, I'm getting my chairs. We're having

(01:01:33):
a beach freaking safari. That's how that's I've had some
of my best days doing that with Brittany and some
of our friends. We have a lot of local friends.
And I mean just watching the day go by. I mean,
and and once you get out there, I mean like
some days you can get out there and it's just
like a vibe day. But some days, you know, you
can fish right off the beach. Stick your pole in.

(01:01:56):
You may not catch anything if they're not biting. But
just lots of activities.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
You know, there's ane.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Put the stand up paddle boards on the top of
the truck, get them out to the beach, go out
in the gulf. I mean, I knew we get there, bro,
I got you. I can take you on.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I think the beach guy, he's becoming more of the
beach guy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
I did say the better day is a perfect beach
day based on this where we're at in the Bahamas,
I mean, it was fucking where we name a couple
of spots? Is it?

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
Where is it like a discovery property?

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
I don't even know what that means. It was nice,
it was it was in a nice spot. Nice Was
it a zooma? I think at zooma? Damn it a
nice spot. And they're like I was telling JP, we
went out there on the boat one day and you
you like pulled up on a sand dune and the

(01:02:54):
water is like this high on your shin and you're
just out like in the middle of the water on
a sand dune and it was yours running around like
it was. It was one of the things where he says,
teal blue flat. Nothing going on here, I said, I said,
the best beach day and vibe has beats best the
best lake day vibe. But as far as average, what

(01:03:16):
I like to do the majority of my time, I
think a lake. I'm a lake boy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
That's how will works. You gotta it's a slow It's
been like a three year conversation, this lake versus beach saying,
it's been like a three and slowly. I'm a beach guy.
I think the culture of a beach. You walk around literally,
you could be as stress as you possibly could be
in your entire life. The minute you step put your
toes in the sand and you're looking at the water
and you just see people just relaxing and knowing that

(01:03:42):
I might have problems but not today. That is what
a beach brings.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
That sounds like sowriter.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
You're welcome, so you can have that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
You can know what I'm thinking at point.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
That's mine.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
We should do a little beach trip. Okay, y'all come down.
We could do one more pod, have some fun right
on the beach and then just kind.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Of that could are we going to be on a boat?
We could?

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Bro, Yeah, I'm just saying, you know, a big boat guy,
big boat guy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Yeah, yeah, we like to walk around it and press
the buttons.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
A superhero like flying at the tip.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
I got you great and beach. You can launch the
captain's launch to go fishing right off the beach. They
backed their boats up, PLoP them out, and you don't
got to go far to catch fish.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Then we come back to get your tarping down.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
We can all have chance at the end. I know
that thing does go hard, though. I know I chirped
it a little bit, but I kind of I kind
of mess with it, you know, dude.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
I got this from I've made some really good friends
in Grand Junction, Colorado. It's a it's a family jeweler,
three generations, and the son, the younger son, does a
lot of cool free form gold work. I was there
in person years ago on a tour stop. I wandered
in there, found a really cool ring and we kept

(01:04:59):
a relationship every since. They've sent me some free things
that they've made for me and Brittany, and then I
bought some stuff from them and I just was like, man,
can you make a tarpin with like a little diamond
eye and yeah, you know, just something something cool. And
he's like, hell, yeah, can I bring it to you
at your at your All show in Vegas. I'm like yeah.
He's like, man like, I'm not gonna mail it, but

(01:05:20):
can I come to the show and drop it off.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
I'm like, buddy, yeah, that's a good trade off.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
Yeah. So I'm good buddies with them. They're great people.
They're living the American dream, working hard, making some really
cool pieces. Man's and their family tradition.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
That when it's all said and done, you decide to
hang up the guitar.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Where do you?

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Where do you see your life? Even be at that
beach house? Twenty four to seven? You head West Coast?

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
What you gonna do?

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
Uh? Not the West Coast. I do love. I do
love the West Coast. I think there's some great spots,
but for you full not full time, not like not
full time. I mean I definitely love That's that's nice.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Yeah, Arizona.

Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
You know, I could see. I love where we're at
in Florida. I mean I don't I don't ever imagine
us really leaving there. I could see I have a
vision of like a you know, kind of an old
Florida farm maybe maybe more like Central Florida, you know,
like ranch style. I have an idea to h you know,

(01:06:20):
open this thing where it's like it's called Good Shepherd Ranch.
So we have German shepherds. We have four love shepherds.
But basically it'd be like, you know, try to find
a good deal on a bunch of acreage, have a
little house there, and be able to you know, rehabilitate shepherds,
take shepherds in that need a home, maybe foster some

(01:06:41):
raise some up. And then I think it'd be really
cool too. Man. There's kind of another element that I've
really been kind of thinking about lately to where you know,
maybe maybe some kids that don't have a family system
that something like I grew up and I'm very grateful
for my mom and dad and and you know, maybe
that's something they could come to Good Shepherd Ranch and

(01:07:03):
we can work with dogs, kind of some dog therapy
and that you know, maybe I can rub off on
them a little bit in terms of like whatever they're
going through and how to deal with things and how
to you know, maybe maybe some life advice or some
if they want to get into music, maybe there's a
little studio on the property, but something that's something that's

(01:07:24):
kind of, you know, giving back, and also that has
a lot of dogs on it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
You love inside dogs.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
Yeah, they are.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
It's shutters.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
It's their house shutters.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Big time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
You let them on the couch, you let them look
your face.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
Oh yeah, man, only two of them, the sisters. Man,
if they've been outside, you better watch it. You'll smell
it before it comes. But they they they like to
eat the poop poo.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
You got two boy dogs, two girl dogs, one.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Boy, three girls. But we have sisters, littermates smoking sage
and for some reason.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Smoke Smoke can't stand her.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Yeah, she's the worst kind of dog husky wife, good
shepherd ranch. Man, Yes, she could go and I'll.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Just forget to Tail would love good shepherd ranch.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Oh yeah. The whole time you're talking, I'm thinking of myself.
Tailing is going to hear this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Taylor was into it and then you started mentioning fostering
and he just started to have like PTSD.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Dude, I'm looking after bunnies right now.

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
I would I wouldn't know what to do with bunnies.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
My wife, she's trying to be a wildlife rehabilitationist. Or
whatever it is. She's like getting certified for it sounds
cool on paper. And then we get four bunnies because
he tells me that, I'm like, bro, if we can
get a raccoon or like a baby skunk, that would
be hype.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
A baby skunk.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Yes, dude, they don't get their they don't get their
smell thing until like two years old, so they kind
of just chill and hang out. And I'm thinking, we're
gonna get some dope animals. I think they'll bunnies over
at us. We got bunnies. I got two of them
that just sit outside, hang out. They bite or they
know they're like they're literally, dude, they're this bag. They're
this bag, and I have to bottle feed them every night,
every night and every morning. And it just pissed right

(01:09:02):
because it's some time with my wife being like, honey,
I want to do something, Yeah, you go ahead and
do that. I love that and I support you whatever
you want to deal. But then one night, kids have
a hard night. I come downstairs. I'm ready for bed.
If I'm a guy, like the minute the kids go
to sleep, I'm trying to get to sleep by nine thirty.
If I get to sleep by nine thirty. My life's
gonna be great the next day. And that's really all
I'm thinking about. Same and she's it's like nine to fifteen.

(01:09:24):
She's like, I gotta feed the monies. That's an hour. Okay,
that's an hour of my life that I got to now.
Luckily they're getting older.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
So she says that, what do you say. You're like, damn,
that sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
No, No, you know me, dude, I fucking bend the
knee quick quick.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
I mean I have an attitude. I have like a
teenage attitude, and that I go and do what I'm
supposed to be doing. I have a bad attitude and
then I do it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Just kind of stop around, go to bed, kind of man.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Good Shepherd Ranch sounds like it could be what we
talked about the ranch, or it could be like it's
like total Hallmark movie. Yeah, good Shepherd Ranch.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
I could see the sunset.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Oh yeah, it's like this crazy He meets a city
girl exactly, they don't belong together, exactly, maybe steal something
from her, steals her purse, runs over to the guy.
That's how they meet. Dog's cute, he's cuter. What's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Damn, the boy will just get going now, like to
create an entire movie.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
I do enjoy living in my own head. What my
wife wants to do. She wants to get a farm
and then have a grocery store attached to the farm
and everything comes from there. It's like her next dream
that she wants to do.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Which I is that what it is?

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Yeah, but that's a slaughterhouse.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Slaughterhouse?

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Yah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Ours is kind of like a like we would have
to like ninja smoke them, like go to the cat
slaughterhouse and then just you know, get them down.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
Yeah, probably do that, not that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Yeah, we're trying to precureus a couple of things. Yeah yeah.
She Uh Bar three Studios, she's a franchise operation. She's
manager for Bar three. It's like a boutique fitness nice.
It's like Taylor toward women. It's like Pilates group fitness
type of vibe. And uh, she's been in that industry.
She's been with that company for a while now and

(01:11:13):
a couple there's an opportunity that popped up in Nashville.
That's right now. We are in the in the middle
of trying to Oh she would like to be a
business owner.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
Hell yeah, it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Yeah yeah, get that. What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
Let me get it on it, Taylor.

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
I got a question for you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
So when you see when you do these ice baths,
So say you're you're in Vegas. I've seen you do
ice baths in Vegas when you're out there, you know,
playing blackjack and stuff. For some reason, I can't wrap
my head around because it's in the hotel room, the
ice bath, right where does how do you how do
they get the water out in the hotel room.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
That's the best part about Red Rock. I don't know, dude.
Red Rock is the greatest like hospitality place I've ever
been in my entire life. I've been to BlackBerry farms,
I've been to really nice places. The hospitality of Red
Rock is second to none. I told them one time,
hey be cool to have a cold tub in my room.
The next time I came there, there's a cold tub.
They refeel the ice. I spill everywhere. I don't claim

(01:12:09):
it right myself. I'm a dirty boy. And then I
come in. Everything's cleaned up, car, car, everywhere. It's it's unreal.
So I don't have it's.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
Nuts too an answer, I'm curious.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
You get into black jack when you're out there in Vegas.

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
I love that's that's really all I play. Really, Yeah,
I love black jack chaos due. I really enjoy it. Yeah,
I've had some good nights in Vegas. Nothing crazy. I
know there's like some other country artists that go freaking
ham and that that they'll bet like a ton ton.
I'm pretty conservative when it comes to you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
Know, hy vibe.

Speaker 4 (01:12:46):
I made some pretty good money, but like I kind
of I kind of start slow and then you know,
I kind of I'm a I'm a feel guy, so
like if I can kind of I get that from
my dad too. You kind of feel what you're gonna get,
you know. It's like if I feel like I'm about
to get hot, like I'm a double down, double down.
You figure out, figure out what you're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
But what's been your best trip? How much? Yeah? How
much you leave with?

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
Probably fourteen k not like I know, y'all, y'all y'all
go with Dana.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
And you know, yeah, but that's a cheap, like fourteen.
Going home with fourteen is amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Yeah, when you're when I started.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
With like shoot, I started with like five or six hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
That's just hit bro, just that, and.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
Then I'm like, all right, I can tell this ship's
getting cold. I'm rolling.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Really that's my problem.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
I feel like Jackal hits some looks like that. I
think a few hundred and turn it into a few thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Yep there, Yeah, jack Will go crazy something.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
Man. It's a fun game when you got people you know,
you know, and you have a have a drink whatever. Yeah,
and it's like, I just I love that game. I
really do.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
We would do on line trips and Will came on
one one year and it was like five of us
sitting at the table, two or three guys standing behind,
just drinking drinks, all kind of like talking each other
into betting a little bit more while so fe scared. Yeah,
run the balls one hundred dollars, like, oh hey, we're
throwing a hail Mary five hundred here on this one.
And the boys just win or lose together. It's awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
The world Will that I have gotten into has kind
of been. It's a little it's much more scarier, there's
a lot more room for error. It's often you all
go there. I try to go every month, No, I
try to go every single month, like truly have a
I have like I have such an addictive personality and
the minute I saw that this was possible, and then
when I start to lose, how Danna kind of just
saves me, like I'm a kid. It's no, there's no

(01:14:32):
reason to never go there. It's it's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:14:35):
Well, hopefully we end up in Vegas together, because I'd
love to play with y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Well, I'll tell you you go to you take us
to Florida. We hit that beach day. We have no
choice but to get you to Vegas. Man, that sounds
like a good deal.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
I don't know what you're doing. June twenty sixth, but
you could come watch the Beer Games Championships of the World.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
That's the problem. Well, June twenty fifth, June twenty fifth,
that's what Big Cat was talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
June twenty fifth. It's on a Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
You should actually come June twenty Yeah, June twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Fourth, June twenty fourth, some more game one.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Yeah, So we're doing the Tunnel of Chaos. We have
a big party in the high Roller Room of Red Rock,
and then it's gonna be like food, drinks, people gambling whatever,
a little tunnel where there's gonna be one table with
just one betting platform, where that's a tunnel of chaos.
You it'll be. It's gonna be a nuts time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Geld you the info.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Yeah, it's a Monday. Yeah, it's a Monday because we
it's all tailored around people that are kind of in
your category, who are like travel Thursday to Sunday.

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Yeah, and so we want everybody to kind of come
and have their schedule be as open as possible.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Cool. Yeah, what uh? What can we look forward to
this year after the album drops tomorrow? Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
Man, I got some I got some festivals this summer.
I'm really excited about that. I already played Tortuga a
couple of weeks back. That was like an awesome festival
right on the beach. Very fitting, uh for for what
I do, and I think I'm gonna bring back. I
did this in twenty twenty two. I did like a
mini residency. I did probably twenty six twenty seven shows.

(01:15:58):
But we have a little surf shop we own down
in Grayton where we live, and we kind of converted
the backyard space into a little concert venue and so real,
real intimate maybe two hundred people max a night, So
I'm gonna do probably, I think right now we've got
it at twelve shows, you know, a couple in June,
couple in July. So really looking forward to that, man.

(01:16:18):
I know, I know the fans that came the first
time had a great time, and it's kind of a
power acoustic set but really casual, really intimate, really stripped down,
and it's you know, I really loved it, man, because
you know, it was an experience that I was able
to create that didn't exist. You know, I think that

(01:16:40):
was that was that was really enjoyable too. You know,
I love playing all sorts of venues. I love you know,
it's fun to play go back and play small clubs.
It's great to do that. Fun obviously to play big,
big you know arenas, amphitheaters all that, but to really
connect and you know, a two hundred person uh space, man,

(01:17:02):
is like, I don't know, I feel like I got
my chops up even more when I did that, man,
because you kind of put yourself in a position to
where it's so personable and personal that you've got people
there like, hey, play play this song. You're like sick,
all right, yeah, calling out something from the record that
maybe wasn't on the set list, but you're really able

(01:17:23):
to connect. And you know, that's what Brittany and I
love about, you know, being entrepreneurs and creating things is
like trying to figure out it's all about the experience,
you know what I'm saying, and to offer something different
that doesn't exist really really gets us excited. And yeah,
so I'm excited about that. And then this fall probably
some more touring, trying to get the logistics locked down

(01:17:43):
for that. But that's awesome, man, I'm excited about I know,
I got obviously a record coming out, but I'm really
looking forward to getting back in the studio and writing
and seeing what what else we can come up with.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Is that A number one passion is the writing part.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
Uh, it is. I mean, it's one of my main things.
But I don't think I could have have it without
the other part, you know, Like I love writing and
grinding and thinking and brainstorming and figuring out the freaking
details of the song and the message of the song
and all that, even the production and love recording it,
but the whole, the whole thing of getting it out

(01:18:18):
on the road and playing playing live and doing that.
I mean, I don't think I could have one without
the other.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
That's awesome, man. Yeah, we appreciate you coming on.

Speaker 4 (01:18:25):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
And open, being honest and having a little fun too.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
Yeah, damn good time.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
I appreciate the platform, and I thank y'all for answering
the call and getting me on here, and I really
appreciate it. Yeah, man, thanks for thanks for being open,
being being willing to hear you know, my side and
my experience, and hopefully for everybody listening. You know, I
hope that has given some clarity.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Absolutely, man, before we get out of here, going, I
know you already talks about it. I plugged that new
album real quick.

Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Truth.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
Check out Tennessee Truth. It's a good time, and uh
it's all about up a living, working hard, playing harder,
and uh loving who you love. I hope you, uh
hope y'all can make it the soundtrack to your summer
and maybe your fall too. And I hope it. Hope
these songs mean something to you, that mean a lot
to me, and I hope you can figure out a

(01:19:17):
way to put them in your everyday life, whether that's
headed to work, or on the lake, on the beach, whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Yeah, Tennessee truth is dropping tomorrow, which.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
Is what's the deal on?

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
Thank you? May tenth, May night eighth, what's Friday?

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
Oh yeah, the tent May tenth appreciate, thank you,

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