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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 4 (00:46):
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of
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Thursday Bucks versus Falcons game Boys. What an incredible weekend
we had.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, a critical interview we just had, Yeah, Coajo Coacho.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
We had him on for over two hours on the
bus and dude, let me tell you, the first thirty
minutes kind of asking questions. He's answering questions right like
as if it's an interview. Maybe not even a full
thirty minutes. I would say about twenty minutes in that podcast,
the dude ripped his tarp off figuratively not literally and
just went into storytime.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Full coach O, full coach O.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
And it's one of those I kind of wish he
was still the head coach of LSU. I don't kind of.
I absolutely wish he was still the head coach of LSU.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, he is perfect.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
He is perfectly suited personality wise to be a part
of Louisiana, the whole thing. He understands the culture of
the people everything, dude. Yeah, and the stories of being
at USC bouncing around him, being at Miami with the
Rock like, dude, it was amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah. I mean, look, it's a little past three right now.
We're in the middle of our six on this bus.
We will for the fans, keep this one, keep this
one light, keep it shorter than usual. Yep, because I'm
fighting right now, for fighting, I'm fighting.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Gotta keep the enthusiasm.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
I just caught myself a couple of times. You know,
it starts to get a little stuffy. Yeah, with the boys, it.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
Is getting warmer on this place right now. We're all
breathing a little bit of hot air at this point. One.
A couple has done a couple of things and our
college football our recap. We talked about the All Cast,
how awesome that was being on it. But before that,
before that, now, we have had an incredible luxury this
year with Flyhouse partnering with us and having the ability

(03:27):
to fly in a private jet from New York every
single week when we're doing our fall camp tour, our
training camp tour, we get on a private jet and
it is, dude, it's an incredible luxury to have. We understand,
how like, how.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
I need a fight. I need to stop fucking feeling
sorry for myself. What are you doing with the yawn
overtakes you?

Speaker 4 (03:47):
And right now, right now, I'm fighting for my life
right now, not to yawn back.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
You know.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yawns are contagious, Like I can feel it kind of
right here. I'm myself for myself with the possibility of
even doing it. But yes, shout out JJ and shout
out fly House because they've hooked us up big time
this year about flying out of the place. We understand how
big of a deal that is and it does not
go past us at all. It's very interesting, however, that
every week we fly to New York that we are

(04:12):
on a smaller jet. Again, not complaining. This is not
a complain thing. This is just an observational thing. Every
time Jeremy Clump has been on a jet with us,
that's a big boy. Now, that's a house that flies
through the air. That thing damn near two stories, right,
you're the Red River Robbery. Clump's on there. All of
a sudden, we're in a challenge with three hundred and

(04:33):
the next week we're in a small little putter going
to New York. Yeah, this weekend we fly to Atlanta,
forty minute flight and we're taking a damn apartment complex
in the air. And wouldn't you know it, Jeremy clumps
on the plane.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
A on the nice plane is always clump.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
It's always clump, and it's always packaged in a certain way. Hey,
we need more guys for the Red.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Ribberry, So we get it.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Twill's birthday. We're gonna get a bigger plane. Hey, SEC Championship,
we're gonnat. We gotta get a bigger plane. Forty minute
flight and you come and let me just say this,
you have done without Clump managing everything like Will and
I basically just got on a plane, had no idea
where to go, what to do, where we were staying,
what the ride was, how we were gonna eat. We're

(05:18):
essentially newborn infants that are calling an SEC Championship game
on the on the ESPN. So Clump's connecting all the dots.
So for that, I say thank you. But there was
a situation going to Mercedes Benz Stadium where we drive
up to the stadium where about an hour ahead of him,
we're actually supposed to be there. But then we just

(05:38):
keep on driving and I'll let you take over from
their clump because it was an interesting, interesting vantage point
for me to watch you.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
We're supposed to arrive at two thirty the night before.
Oh yeah, PAYT the night before is like, yeah, they
got us arriving at two thirty. Like I like to
get there, we like, you know, walk the stadium. He
starts putting us, he started getting the helmet on. You're like, yeah,
we do kind of need to walk to the stadium,
kind of figure we're oute the lay of the land.
And so we're like, all right, let's get to the
stadium at one thirty. So let's leave clump books to

(06:08):
the bus or whatever for one o'clock. We get in
the bus, we're riding over. We're what apparently seven minutes
away from the Like we're not far from the stadium whatsoever.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
Yeah, not at all.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I think we started driving and forty minutes later after
we lap around the entire stadium. We realized we're about
to come back up on the stop light where which
we were like twenty five minutes ago, And so Clump
starts getting a little ante. We're all getting a little antsy, like, yo,
are we going to even get there on time? Yeah?
And Taylor's in the front. He's like, Clump, you need
to come up here, Like, I can't be the one.
I don't even know what I'm trying to tell the

(06:37):
guy right.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
All respect to our driver, his English is pretty broken,
and so he's trying to tell me things. It's more
directional facial expression stuff. I'm thinking myself.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
And we're yelled to the back of the van, like, hey, Clump,
where we going?

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Do you learn when we have a van? I'm never
sitting in the front again. It used to be all
can me in and out? Probably get myself a little
more leg room. I'll be in the back from here
on out. Boys, I'll be in the back. Worse spot
to be in the front, man, and I am forever
Clump will be in the front. I will get my
ass so far in the back with the least amount
of responsibility you could possibly have. Clump looks at this guy.
He comes up, buddy, you getting through to hold on.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
I was gonna say, let's let's just address that.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Right, We got to address that.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
I wish we had that camera.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
It was a little bit of a tight squeeze.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
My bull was stuck for a minute, wasn't he dude?
He goes too, because it's like it's like a two
to one type of situation. So there's a nice little alley,
but then the front seat is like a little three
seater and then the door. So the crack no joke
is about yay big.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
All right, that boy got stuck between the seats and
the door on the wil I squeezed through. And then
once he snuck through, I said, yeah, I got that
on fields. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
I thought I thought you were gonna post it.

Speaker 6 (07:42):
But uh, what what really was concerning when that whole
thing was going is Josh kind of knew where we
were going. And I heard him go, oh, we missed
our our garage, and I'm like, oh no, so we passed.
He's like, oh, we can come up here on the right,
and we go by it again. He was and we
went by that one now and we asked the driver.
We're like, uh, like we have a parking path for
the Red Garage and he said, oh no, I'm trying
to find a spot for after the game where there's

(08:04):
no traffic so you guys can find me.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
So that's where I'm gonna stop. And we basically were like, we.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Speak for yourself.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Club's like, we got a parking pass, Like that's not
even gonna be an issue.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
Yeah, I was basically said, we have a parking pass.
And I was like, we don't even care. I don't
even care about where we get picked up after the game.
We need to get into the game. Now, you and
I can plan where you pick us up after the game.
We got to get into the game and I don't
know where the where it got lost, but we kept
driving and then we got to a spot and Josh like,
we can get out here and walk. Josh was getting
anty too. It's like I was, I was anty, but

(08:35):
Josh's getting antsy.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Josh was a nanty in the way Josh Pai get's
antsy and beause we're right, we're.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Right there outside the stadium, but everybody's directing us, Hey,
you have to go this way, and we're kind of
getting to the point to why, Hey, we think we
should just get out of the van right.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Now, right police officers, so you can go straight and
then go down in the tunnel areahere you're assuming the
teams are going to go into correct yes, and then
the police officer wants severe right. The guys werell in
the window like half cracked. The guys like that's not
gonna fit. You're not gonna be able to You have
to turn and right here Clump's trying to talk to
the guy. We end up turning right. As soon as
we turn right, Clump is like, open the door so

(09:06):
we can get out, and they st He's like, hey,
let me just. The drivers like, let me just He's like, sir, please, sir, please, sir,
sure sir.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Open the door.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Open the door. Please open the door right now. Open
the door right now, sir, sir, please please, sir. I'm
in I'm sitting over here. I think at one point
I even went.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Open the door.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Please. I'm getting nervous. Clumb, it's all.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Clumb starts to open the door while we're driving. Stop
the man stop.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
The van door was bing started. He Clump's opening the
door himself.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
The door is open. I'm telling him to stop. Yes,
I said stop the van. Stop the van, Sir, stop
the van multiple times.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
We get out of this van and I walk over
to the police officer that just told us you have
to turn right. I'm like, hey, we got to go
down this way. We're calling the game. He tells me
straight up, no, shot, that's where I go. I'm gonna
fall back and let somebody else handle the bad guy
type of thing. I'm not gonna be no motherfucker I'm
calling you know, I'm not doing that. So I go
back to lean back. I go clump because I can

(10:08):
already tell clumps in that mode. Right about that, he
about the body back. Some motherfuckers, I go clump. Clumbs
are walking away.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
I look back.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
The police officers alread basically told me to fuck off.
He's back at his station. He's walked fifteen feet away
from me, and uh Pate's like, hey, we can walk
down this way. Follow the road, bro. We followed the road,
basically walking right next to the car we were in
for a second. There. It was bad to where luckily.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Jars had the last laugh.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
Yes, yes, he was right in that one moment.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
In that moment, yeah, totally of everything. He wasn't at
the end, he was correct.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
He was correct.

Speaker 6 (10:45):
I did apologize to him. I was like, hey, sorry,
I got a little crazy there, but uh, we got
to the game.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
I would hey, listen when we when we walked out,
and it was pandemonium. People walking in were rushing to
get to the airport. We're trying to find the van.
There's a piece. But it's like this motherfucker left us,
you know, doubt.

Speaker 6 (11:00):
I know he was telling me like where to go,
and I was getting worried, like I think he left us.
And I was ready for that moment to be like,
this is all my fault. He did this because of
me saying to stop.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
But but we got there.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
It was gray as a voice opened the door. Stop
the van, Stop the van, No stop right here.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
I got out and then Will try to get out
and he starts closing the door on Will.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
You wouldn't let Will out. At first, it was it
was fun. You guys didn't hear I'm telling on myself.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Here.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
There was another police officer who walked up.

Speaker 6 (11:28):
And it was a woman and she goes, we were
telling you to turn right because you could have went
down that way. Just so you know, I don't know
if you guys heard that. She's like the driver was right.
That's what she said to me.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
One.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Oh damn, no, damn. Would you like to address the
allegations that bust one of the boys, only flies on
big private jets when Jeremy Clump is in attendance.

Speaker 6 (11:47):
Uh, yeah, I guess I could address that. I think
it's true. I don't have anything to fight against. I
to be honest, that is definitely it is. It has
added up to be true. You like to be comfortable,
but we all like to be coming and I like
to be similarity. I will be flying with you guys
to New York this week on Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Oh so we're getting a big boy.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
No, we are not. We're taking the normal one that
we are grateful for. We will be on that one together.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Again, extremely grateful.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
But what.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
Yeah, this will be my first time on the smaller jet.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
You know what sucks. This podcast is for the people,
by the people, and I'm sure the last thing they
want to hear from us is bitching about what private
jet we're getting on. How tone deaf can we possibly be?
Clump my fault taking care of the.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, I like to becoming.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
This podcast is built on Southwest man, I did fighting
for the exit row.

Speaker 7 (12:49):
Yeah, hey commercial, four am.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Driving from what Baton Rouge to New Orleans, Charlotte.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
Yeah, this weekend just for fun, just to get it.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Jack and I we still we rore on Southwest on
the way to Vegas. They tell me we can get
out there.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Man.

Speaker 6 (13:09):
We did stay in one hotel room with three men
and uh at the sec cham. I love that I
slept on a cot, but I just want to I
slept on a cot.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
And I hope to God that Sherman and Mitch have
the photo of you cut them with g and the
angle of your legs.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Dog man.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
I didn't mind it. Some bros hanging out together on
a bed that ain't nothing, but they.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Hangle those knees threw me off.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
Bro something like, he looks comfortable, calm, looks something. Look
he trying to comfortable. He's trying to he's trying to snuggle.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
Come on now, six year anniversary on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Let's congratulations running plus on that dude. Six years. I'd
see the post.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I'm just comfortable with my skin. Shout out the winds.
You guys all sleep like comfortably? Like does anybody have
any night terrors? Or snoring, no breathing.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
There was one moment they were making fun of me.
I guess I dose off and like snort.

Speaker 7 (14:01):
Yeah, we were just hanging out in that room. It's
probably like eleven thirty and me and you you're like
casually were what was it the two end game?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
We finished up two.

Speaker 7 (14:08):
We put on like the end of Ocean twelve, going
to Oceans thirteen, just like letting the night die down,
and you kind of hear clumps stop making little remarks
here and there. You can tell he's probably a sleeve
and then you should go, oh my god, he goes.
I just woke myself up with my storing, and he
just woke himself up just from pure snoring.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
So it was beautiful.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
But yeah, we had a great time. I mean, three
dudes in one room doesn't sound ideal. We made it work.

Speaker 7 (14:32):
Yeah, it's it's easy to make it work. Also, at
the hotel we're staying at. Not gonna say the name
the topic of this conversation.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
But yeah, yeah, I will say this a moment of gratitude. Uh,
the morning of the alt cast, we all go down,
we have coffee, We sit there, we're chopping it up
about the game that's taking place, and then we kind
of like get into the year as we're having conversation
around all these Georgia and Alabama fans. We're sitting in
a really nice tell all the TVs at one point

(15:02):
have our FanDuel commercial on, and we kind of look
at each other and we're like, bro, what an insane
year this has been for us to be sitting here
about to do it all casts on the actual ESPN
and we're all just having coffee. It did. It was unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
It was truly unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Man preparing had a Georgia coach come up to us
talking about being familiar with the brand and everything else.
We had this couple, this married couple that was talking
about how one's a Georgia fan wants a Bama fan.
They've been together since twenty twelve and they've went to
every Alabama Georgia game together and they buy they sitting
in different sections of the stadium because they're like, we
don't we won't watch games together.

Speaker 7 (15:39):
They're staying in ten to both of them are like, yeah, no,
we don't sit with each other.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, And it's great to know that both those people
understood each other enough to not put their relationship in jeopardy. Yeah,
during those times. That's a key to a healthy relationship,
as understanding how the other one kicked ticks.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
So in the night before getting the go getting the
partake in Josh Pat's live show, which by the way,
filled it out.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
Crushed it thousand plus people.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Yeah, killed the dude. You walked out the crowd too,
Like Josh Pa handle himself very well because the crowd
was just full of Georgie and Alabama fans, tense.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Like, kind of scary.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
He can kind of cut it with a knife.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
And then Will and I kind of went out. I
started playing heel a little bit. They started ganging up
on us for being big ten guys. Then you caught
a guy rooting for Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, look at this, I just randomly stayed Nebraska. Whoop Kentucky.
Georgia fans stays, oh what do you Kentucky? Walk at now? Yeah,
everybody's laughing him. He's pent up, ready to fight the
BAMA fan behind him.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
Well yeah, one guy wouldn't couldn't get his first question out.
He was ready to swing on old buddy.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
And then you had the financial guys, they just break
down a clause.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
Yeah, that question dude was so he's like, he said,
I have a question in a statement, and he's just
sitting there, going and going and going. I'm watching you, guys,
Jack goes, he's gonna body that. One of these guys
gonna body this guy. I forget one of you said
something that was so funny.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
I was like, oh, your fans are much smarter.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
Some something that just hit though. But we're all sitting
there waiting for it to end, and he's just bud.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah, I looked over it, Josh, what's all for you, buddy?
No way, I don't even know what happened. Parton is
I think we gotta hire this guy like he got
he gotta know something we don't. Maybe dude needs a
job with us so we can just kind of understand.
But it was awesome.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Man.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
They love some Josh Pate. We got to meet Josh
Pate's parents.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
His dad is a legend. His mom too. She was
great because you can just tell what she's put up
with for the last however many years. But go ahead,
what was his dad saying?

Speaker 2 (17:39):
He comes up to me, I'll.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
Tell you what, And I go to shake his head.
He goes, you I watch I'm a Bama fan. Now,
all right, you are the nastiest son of a bitch
I've ever seen play football in my life. It's not hello,
my name is mister Pate to me, I don't know
his first name. He doesn't know my name, and we're
like laughing. He goes, but yeah, that's good for you,
and he's just going into it.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Dad.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
He's like, I guarantee, I guarantee. I'm telling you. You
know those where I'm like, oh, this dude consumed consumed
roy D Mercer back in the day's selm bitch I
ever seen him the football field. But that that's a compliment,
that's a comment that means you're hell of a player.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
I caught a couple this weekend and I was like,
maybe I did do it right Dad. At the end,
he's kind of like, you play. You played the game
where you're supposed to play it now. And then Spikes
comes up during our all casting before he gets on,
but he like gave me the stamp. He's like, bro,
I knew like you in High Tower. We played each
other like you got it High Tower. I was like, Oh,
he's like, you played it the way you're supposed to play.
I'm like, mister Spikes, bro, you took heads. You took

(18:46):
heads in your career. I kind of just I was
like a gnat on the football field. You were an
absolute bowling ball. Different different world. But he gave some love. Man,
that was awesome.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Brandon Spikes, he was a dog bro and he was
so personable. Got hooked up with him. Man, you got
to come on bus with the boys one day. He's like,
much respect to what y'all do? I love to come
on the bus and stories I've heard about Brandon Spike's
just seeing it was just kind of a different I
didn't know what to expect meeting him. I'm thinking, this
alpha dude. But he was incredible to be around, and

(19:16):
he was a stud. He was about it when he
came on the Old cast doing the interviews, getting excited
about things. Yeah, it's like he could have stayed there
with us the entire time, talking about the game and
everything else. But yeah, he's a dog man. I was
trying to bring up the Luke Combe story that we'd heard.
I don't know if his brain was quite there remembering
it all. Because he's like, that's his answer is Perfect's

(19:38):
when I kind of what he said, That's why I
kind of started to take souls.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Yeah, that's when I started up put people on the ground. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
About after he was done, we were like dapping him
up and going to be right before the next first break,
and he's like he brought his forty yards.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
I said, sick because I talked about how big of
a fan I was of him, like coming out of Florida,
and I was like, bro, I remember watching your pro
day like at my townhouse in college, like mad that
you ran a four second forty or five second forty.
He started. He said, yeah, people didn't know I couldn't
run very well. He's like that that was day I
was gonna get exposed.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Yeah, he said he was running and while he's raised
at i'moon very fast, there goes five million.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Well he was.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
He was awesome, absolutely awesome. Let's get do it. Let's
get do a couple points. We have to get into
January sixth, Will Compton's favorite holiday. We are doing so.
If those of you that don't know that are watching
the show right now, Jared and I made a bet
earlier this year hey, you get a six pack by
jan one. I will give you five thousand dollars if

(20:42):
you do not. I need you to do twenty minutes
stand up. All right, he shakes my hand. He's very
nervous about it. Allegedly turns out he played chess on
my ass because he's now getting out of comedy for
whatever reason. So January sixth, at Zani's in Nashville, Tennessee,
seven pm. All right, we are going to do a
a show for Jared Beeman.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
One night only.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Jared Beaman is going to do a full stand up show.
I'll be up there. I'm assuming you're gonna come up
for a little bit too. I might say hello, Yeah,
come might say hello. We'll get a couple, we'll be
a couple of guests there. This is not a Bustle
with the Boys live show. What this is a Jared
Beaman stand up show, one night only, seven pm, Zany's,
January sixth, Dude, let's let's let's let's have a full

(21:24):
house for Jared. If you're wonder a but the money
you guys are was it? Nashville dot Zanies dot com.
That's where you can get your tickets all tickets sold,
We're gonna donate. We're not Bust with the Boys is
not taking a dollar on this entire thing. We're donating
everything to charity. Get plus that run plus to that.
So yeah, Nashville dot Zanys dot com, you can get

(21:46):
your tickets there. We're looking forward to seeing everybody, special
guests coming in. We'll all come up for a little bit.
We'll talk about all this stuff. We'll have a little
back and forth. It'll be a great time. But it's
really about Jared Beaman. That's what it's all about at
the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Man, I think he's gonna crush man.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
I think he will too Russia, and he's gonna be
so nervous before. But I'm hoping we can get enough
like comedians that have been in the game for a
long time to where when he comes off and he's
like I sounded stupid. There's a couple communis they're like, bro,
you got it, because I believe he does.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, I've been doing it for a while.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Jeremy Klump, He's gonna be the one getting all these
comedians in for us. So that'll be nice, man, that'll
be a good deal.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Also, Yeah, on the notice charity as well for the
Dad's Bust with the Boys partnering up with Vanderbilt Children's Hospital,
where ten percent of merch sales from now until tomorrow
night go to Vandy's Children's Hospital. We're purchasing toys next
week and dropping them off at the hospital next week.
But if you go to BWTV dot com, every item

(22:44):
that you purchased, ten percent of those merch sales will
be going to the children's the Vanderbilt Children's Hospital, and
we are matching every dollar that we raise. So again,
BWTV dot com, they go buy some merch and help
us raise money.

Speaker 8 (23:00):
Carol on BWTB dot com if you want to donate.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
That way, okay, boom So two things BDWTV dot com
doing it to the Children's Hospital and Nashville dot Zany's
dot com to get tickets to watch Jared Beeman's first
stand up And I think, are we doing a special
for him? We are gonna make it a specially. We're
gonna make it a special. It's gonna be a special. Also,
we'll make Jared do a meet and greenble. We'll have
a bunch of merch there for all the boys. We'll

(23:24):
make it fun, exciting. We're gonna give away a bunch
of stuff. It'll be fun. You guys will really enjoy it, ma'am.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
What else?

Speaker 2 (23:31):
I saw a question on the intro World Cup in USA?
Are we going to a game group? D?

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (23:37):
I mean why not? Got to When is the World Cup?
It's like all summer right yea, oh boys, that's so
far away. We need to start talk about the Olympics.
Were start Winter Olympics is coming up, and you guys
remember the four Nations tournament?

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Right?

Speaker 2 (23:51):
We did?

Speaker 4 (23:51):
We We got after Canada's asked. Canada disrespected our ass.
So this needs to be If the world is what
the world claims to be, it'll be America versus up
for the golden medal and we're whooping that ass. And
where Milan? We're going to Milan, Milan, Italy.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Jet Yeah, big jet germ.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
You'll need a big one to go there, and big
jet germ to get Milan, all right? That or I
hope Southwest goes to Milan because I'm going I gotta
get out there. Watch it.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
You're going to go out there?

Speaker 4 (24:20):
Fifty stars, thirteen bars brother to how patriotic are you? Yeah?
If we I think given schedule, Given the schedule, if
we're able to go out there, I'm gonna go out there.
Got to, right, Yeah, I have to.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
I'll watch it from the TV.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
I know you will.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
I'll be kicking it at the house in February sixth
through twenty second. We got Super Bowl weekend.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Oh, then I will not be going. I'll be rooting
for you boys though, huh. I'll be rooting for all
you boys out there already fifty yeah, I'm already out
fifty stars thirteen bars from my TV. I will not
be running. I'll be on that couch. All right, boys,
let's do a quick break for this thing right here,
and then we're gonna get into that at oseron.

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All day long. Boys and girls. Let's get into the
episode with Ed ozeron Coach O. Coach O, this is phenomenal, phenomenal.
Subscribe We're on all right, Coach Anything you saying now
is being recorded. Obviously, nothing's gonna change the minute you
walked into the shop, man, because you all the way through,
you walked in on the bus before us. A bunch
of our guys like, fucking Coach O. Man, what a legend,

(26:53):
what a guy. And it's like it's an absolonal to
give Coach O a ride up a bus. Come run
the bus. Incredible, incredible stuff. Man, You've been all over
the coaching world, and he'd been around so many great players,
coached with so many great coaches, had great coaches under
you as well. But l Rose, Louisiana, we talk like,
what's a population, what's it like growing up there? Because

(27:16):
when I was at Michigan, I had a teammate of
mine from Baton Rouge Louisiana's name was Drew Dillio. Wind
up dating his sister. So I would go down to
Baton Rouge and her grandparents were like the creole had
to talking where I'm just sitting there from Arizona, like
just smiling and nodding while they're kind of going through everything.
Is that was taking place in Larro's.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Hey did the same thing. Man. I think the population
grew up the six thousand.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Okay, so we're getting bigger.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Hey, we're living to buy you. You know when they
come to to buy you, right, I do not run
right by you house. But actually my grandparents didn't speak English,
and my grandparents one hundred and fished off the land,
and my mother moved from the camp in the swamp
to my sisters, her sister's home to go to high school.

(28:01):
So it was a great, great experience. There's a good,
great picture right there. They I live right on the
corner right there, there's the Intercosal Canal and the bayer Lafouche,
and I live not not in that big house, that
small house right on the.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Side that is absolutely wild, like is it? It was
like creole like a real thing down there, and Laruez
like who when people come from out of town, they
got to be so confused about how people are communicating.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
We'll all speak Cajun French. Yeah. And the thing about it,
I thought, on you want to speak French and I
took it in college. We got a little slang about
all say we don't know what, we're gonna make it up.
But yeah, wells on they say, yeah, no, no, I
feel I.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Feel you with that, and you got you guys just
get confusedly, Hey, fuck it, I'm gonna make up my
own words, right.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
You gotta imagine too.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
That's that's my five year old, that's my daughter. Know
what's going on? You gonna make something? But hell yeah, honey,
let's go.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
You gotta imagine to coach O how he's been a
hell of a coach. He's at the resume everything else.
But some of his first interviews, like the ad whoever's
sitting with gott to be listening to him, be like, yeah,
you sure you want to?

Speaker 4 (29:10):
I know you can't what he says, guy knows ball.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
If you want to be your position coach, if you
like him, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Yeah, how did you get your started coaching?

Speaker 1 (29:19):
You know, my father was kind of like my my
my coach when I was young and idolized him. Right,
But there are two things I can do. I can
shovel shrump. I can coach football. I guess what the
choice of coaching football was very easy. But you know,
as soon as I want to trial for pro football,
in fact, I can't try for the Memphis Show Bulls.

(29:40):
You got probably too young to remember the Memphis Shore
Bulls the USFL Football League. And I drove home. My
dad said, what are you gonna do? So I started coaching.
The next day I went to my college coach. He goes,
you know, I had a kind of coach, Babay, that's
my name. Baby, What you gonna do? You don't start coaching?
He goes, where here, Baby, I don't have a job,

(30:03):
I said, coach, I don't leave no money. Tomorrow morning,
eight o'clock can be the staff meet Bay. You you
suw okay? He said, okay, you can come. But here's
the deal. He says, you cannot eat in the cafeteria
and you cannot live in the dormitory. You're not on
scholarship anymore. I said, coach, that's fine. I took my
pickup truck, I stole a cot out of the dormitory

(30:25):
and I moved in the visitor's dressing room. Man, I
ain't the stadium, yo, what yo? Look, I had a
bunch of showers, a bunch of lockers. Hell is the
best I ever lived. Man, I love it. Next day,
seven thirty staff meet, I was said, never my pen,
here we go. I never looked back.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
When you're going back and getting that that as your
first job, Like, how are you kind of carving your
way into you know, finding respect, finding your niche in
the coaching world, to kind of like earn your keep
to stay on the staff, and then for them to
turn it into we got to get him.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
A job exactly. You know, the first day we went
out to practice, they gave me the defensive ends where
I used to coach the defensive and they gave me
them what ten minutes individual And I got pretty pissed
at him, so I said, effort, We're gonna have an
attitude adjustment period. And I just started banging a bang bang.

(31:15):
Everybody everybody on the field was like, what the world
is going on over there? Services that I made my mork.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Physicality?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah right?

Speaker 4 (31:24):
And what was your where? Where was the next stop?
After that?

Speaker 2 (31:26):
You know?

Speaker 1 (31:27):
I went from Northwestern State uh huh, to Magnee State,
to Arkansas, to Miami and really Arkansas. Miami was my
big bricks, especially when I went to Miami.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
And Arkansas too. You were a shrint coach.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, I was a strength coach. I was in the
weight room. Check this out. I made twenty five dollars
every two weeks. Let me let me tell you I
got that. You guys loved the story. So I was
down in the summer shoveling a sharp from the sharp shot.
That's what I knew how to do, making making fast money.
And I get a call. Now I'm on the bottom
of the boat. Now, babe, you got a call from

(31:59):
Arkansas and back thenning those cell phone with it one thing.
So I get up there. I have my shovel in
my hand, my white boots, everything. This guy, Brad Scott
was at the Universal Arkansas. He goes, hey, man, I
got a job in a strict coaching room at the
University Arkansas. You want it? I said, wait a minute.
I took my shovel whoo threw it in the body.
I said, hell, yeah, what in the hell is Arkansas?

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Man?

Speaker 1 (32:22):
I mean, twenty five dollars every two weeks of living
the Dover Tour and I absolutely loved it.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Really yes.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
And then after that you go to Miami and you
end up did you end up? You cross paths with
the Rock? Correct the way? That r Johnson?

Speaker 1 (32:33):
That's right?

Speaker 2 (32:33):
What was that?

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Tell me give me a look into because we all
see the star he is now rastaw this morning. I
woke up at you know, five point forty five. He's
got a post out an hour and a half before
getting up. Get my card on my at this time
of my bitch is always on top of all of us.
But what was he like in college?

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Great guy? First of all, his nickname was Dewey. We
didn't know anything about the Rock Dwayne Johnson. He was
the nicest. Now, back then University of Miami players would
not call nice. Okay, got it. I was coaching Sap
and all those guys. But he was the most well
mannered young man that we coached. Now, he wasn't as
talented as Sap in those guys, but he's a very

(33:11):
very tough football player. Great gut to coach.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, did he do you think he did he have
a chance to make it in the league? You think,
I know he tried for a little bit.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
I think that, you know, he didn't have the movement
skills that most guys had. But I remember one day
he had a bad practice and his uncle was a wrestler, right,
and Bob cor Medos recruiter, and we got off the field.
I said, go dog a doing You need to go
be a Dirk wrestler like your uncle. Later on in life,
I saw you in the wrestle, I said, dam he
took good advice.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
So you got to coach Ray Lewis too.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, yeah, you know Ray Ray was. In fact, what
happened is Ray came in June and I remember Tommy
Tumboville told us, now he was a little hurt ninety
pounds wrestler, this is going to be the best linebacker
ever in un history. And he durn sure it was. Yes,
he was man coach the d line, but domic tomic coach.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
Was you also cross paths with Mike Sullivan because I think, yeah,
Mike was my assistant offense line coach at the Titans
for nine years. Great guy, one of what three white
dudes on the University of Miami. Why you got to
be a tough SB right to be? Hadn't be a
Caucasian on.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
That quad, that's right. And he was he was nasty man,
was he really? But a good guy off the field
is nasty, you know, Coach Johnson, he was sharp man.
He would only let you recruit left tackles and centers. Really, no, huh.
You're not playing right tackle in high school, you know that.
And you're not the best athletes on the field. You
played in defense, right, And he'd take the best defensive

(34:38):
lineman he could the rest he moved over the office.
You want a smart center, athletic left tackle, all the
rest of defensive.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
Line figure it out after that. Yeah, yeah, defensive mean
and then you have a little mental edge too on
the out side of the offensive line.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
That always like coach in a personality like Warren.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Sapp well, love Warren, right, but look you got a
step in the room, that Warren. And we still talk
about it. This Zale, right, Warren thought, now he will
argue with today. Back then he thought there was one
guy on campus at the universal of Maamitic whippers. Ass me,

(35:15):
now one I can whipping or not, probably not, but
at least he thought I could. Yeah, but remember he
came to us as a tight end. He was two
hundred and twenty seven pounds. He red shirted and played
tight end the whole red shirt year. Then we had
to recruit him to play defensive line. But one thing
about Warren, Now, when he got off on that football,
he was He ran a four to six five forty

(35:36):
at two seventy five when he got off on that
football here like a fucking cobra. Man, like a snake.
He was so fast. That guy was the fastest defensive
lineman of evercle and nasty with that.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
When he's playing tight end, red shirting at tight end
and you have to recruit him to play DEFENSEI liven
where those conversations, like you bring him in there, Hey,
these are facilities. Is the room you're be looking at?

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Well, look, d line would be meeting. He walked out
the tight ending room. Hey, war I got a little
pool boy for you coming here. Man. Me and Bob
Cormello was we had food for him every day. Man.
We recruited this ship out of them. But then then
we got him in the room. Man, we got after
his ass and he loved it.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
And how quickly from him going down from tight end
the defense line, We're like, okay, yeah, he's immediately.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
That's awesome.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Yeah, so after Miami, where was the next stop you?

Speaker 1 (36:25):
After Miami? I got up and you can imagine that. Okay,
I'm twenty seven, full time, twenty full time living in Miami.
I'm having fun. Yeah. I two time national TAN coaching
warsapp living on brinckle Key. Yeah, doing it all right.
Off the field, annexed were a little no wow. Right,

(36:50):
So I had to take a year off. So I
took a year off of coaching. And that wasn't but
that wasn't by my choice. It was it was not
of recommended Abody University.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
You go to some of the security parts. Coach O
is also in there with the boys. What the hell
is going on?

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Wow? Well we gotta have the buzz back there. Had
a good time. But anyway, so I took a year
off and ah, I had to volunteer tiny Nickels State
and Tivodaal Louisiana and now worked my way back up.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
To Syracuse in the USC or the USC.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, say, Paul Pascalonia was really good to brought me
back into big time coaching. Then I went to the
us C. There's two schools I always went to coach
at I want to be the head coach at l
shoot the head coach at USC. And then when I
went to the USC, man, God, what a place. I
love the.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Place there in the heyday.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
This is when you know Reggie Bush is dating the celebrities.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah, Matthews, Matthews is in there.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
Kyle Matthews in there. You had some crazy squads, and
I know there's been like glory of co Joe. But
one thing you were incredible at was recruiting. And you
have a story about like we coach getting fired and
you're still on the recruiting trail and all that. But
what about USC when you got that call, Like, was it, hey,
I'm on my way immediately, I'm coming.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah. I was at Syracuse and they wanted me to
stay there. I want to come, I want to go.
I always wanted to be at UC. And what a
what a place, man? But you know what, you know,
I was with Paul Hacket. We were getting fired, and
back then my wife goes shield, I guess, I guess
we're leaving. I said, no, this place is too strong.
We will stay. And I went out recruiting for two weeks.
I didn't know who the coach was. Gonna be And

(38:30):
you guys heard the story. It was a Saturday night,
ten thirty. I'm sitting there watching Long Beach, Polly and
Low and the play, and a guy named Pete Carroll
comes up to me. Got my USC stuff on thirty
eleven'clock Saturday. He goes, Pete Carrol, Yeah, he goes, what
are you doing? I said, I'm recruiting. He goes for who?
I said, for us? He goes, din't you all get fired?

(38:52):
Two weeks ago? He goes, they told me if I
wanted to stay on the gold recruit says you've been
a recruited for two weeks? Said hell yeah. He goes,
you know these players over there? Yeah, man, you all right?
Dornell being Herschel Herschel dinner. You think they can play
at the USA? I said, why are you asking me that?
He goes, uh, you know, Pete Peter was out of
that look about him. You know. He go, well, they

(39:14):
named me the head coach at the University Soun of
California Monday afternoon at two thirty. The first thing I
told him, I said, coach, give me a number. He
looked at me like, who's this guy? I said, I
got the number one player in the nation. Sean Cody,
I'm gonna beat this school. At seven o'clock on Monday morning.
I'm gonna call you, coach. You're gonna be the first
one to talk to them. He said, really it he's

(39:35):
that good, he said, yeah, he goes, don't give nobody
my number, don't don't. I don't know where, but seven
o'clock that morning, I was there at the high school. Now,
Show's daddy would let me in the house. He's a
big irishman, Okay, I know. He started to disappointable boy
to take the ball. We'll talk about that later. And
he said, coach, you ain't you ain't recruit my son.

(39:55):
He going know to day, you know. I told him,
I said, I'm gonna recruit your son. He's gonna come
to you. See, I'm a coach for anyway. So we
went down there, went to the high school coach, uh
doctor Sean. He says, hey, Eddie, h can you beat
at my press confine at two thirty? I said, well sure,
So I went down and look, I've been on the
road for two weeks.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
Right in recruiting for recruiting for somebody that you don't
know your coaches. You're going to kids.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
You guy, you go to the US.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
He who's the coach that we don't know?

Speaker 1 (40:24):
We need you, we don't know. You don't get part
of the Yeah, they got you know. And then I
ran in a couple of coaches that were kind of
derogatory on the road. You know what I'm saying. I'll
tell you I'll be back for you later. That's all
I do. Like Schwartzman, you know. Anyway, so they have

(40:47):
the press conference. Now, Coach Carrol wasn't the picking the
litter right, Yeah, I mean retread and all that stuff.
So he goes, he said, some little guy to know
who he was. We got her looking on. Hey, you've
got a staff meeting right after this. So I'll go
up there. And man, my seat was right near coach
the head coach. I was right there. It was taken.

(41:07):
I've seen some people on that damn meet and I
ain't seen in two years. All they're dressed up on
the job. Mark chair was wait in the back. Coach goes, look, guys,
you know what I know. It's a great coach in here.
I ain't keeping nobody. I wanna start fresh. I'm sitting
back there going you ship and he said, all except you, Eddie,

(41:30):
Let's get to work. Let's coach Carol Man. I went
from right down right there, and two weeks we went together, man,
and he was a mentor to me. What a great man,
what a great heduddy.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Was about to burn you after the whole recruiting.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Yeah, but that's it, man, that's how he does it.
And he wanted to celebrate we had a great, great
career together.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
Man. We had a Kyle and Clay Matthews on here
and they're talking about these team meetings that took place,
coaches taking clothes off, shooting basketball is getting wild. Like
I already know you're one of those coaches. I want
to hear from your vantage point what the thought process
is with p cars like fellas. Here's how we're gonna
get the boys rolled up today, Coach oh get naked

(42:14):
after because I know it was. It was like a
nuts back then, right They kind of alluded to it
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Well, you know, I'll be careful, I won't say this.
I'm really develop them up about it, so I don't
mind thinking works want to go. But anyway, you know,
coach Coach was a master. He's a master motivator man.
And we had this this deal that Kennedy Polo was

(42:42):
our Special Teams coach, and he thought, was this thing.
We going there and we.

Speaker 9 (42:46):
Take off our shirts and get a little boards rolled
up and all and it was like s the Special
Team Wold the Wild everybody nuts man and it was wild.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
So he'd have meat do that. So that was my
my partner. He come any day now, Headie wild busterday. Okay, coach,
you got it, you know. I get him there and
challenge the guys, you know. And back then I was
kind of board up a little bit. It was good.
It was fun, you know. Anyway, but one day, okay,
one day he goes, Eddie, come here. Yes, their coach,

(43:20):
we gotta do Steve wild Bust today. He said, look,
now here's what's gonna happen. I want you to go
in there and I want you to tell him it's
not good enough and get pissed at him. And because
they listen to me, they were good. And the he said,
I want you to walk out the door.

Speaker 9 (43:36):
I'm walking out of the app the door, and when
I come back, your ass better be ready, sir, your sir,
you're sort they're like, God.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
What's up with coach today? Man? He said to Edie. Now, look,
I'm not big into I don't know. I didn't know.
I heard a suit dog, but I never met suit
dog and wrapping, you know, movie stars. Pete had him
all coming around, you know. Yeah, I was just interested
getting sacked, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So I
walk out the door. He said, there's somebody gonna take
your place, Eddie, don't tell him anything, let him come in.

(44:07):
So I walk out the door. It's freaking Snoop Dog.
So instead of me going back in, Snoop DOGG goes
back in. The team went nuts. Man. They absolutely loved him.
Then he came out the practice. He was hitting the
bags with us, Man, he was throwing passes. But that's
what Coach Carroll's way of getting to the players and
getting us all together. He was a mastermind. Man.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
Yeah, do you still follow Coach Carroll and his club
right now?

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Love him? I watched the Raiders the other night, Yeah, I
love him.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
In your opinion as a head coach watching a coach
in the NFL that you used to coach with, what's
going on in the Raiders organization right now? That needs
to be switched out.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
YO. First of all, you know we were I think
we're two and six and at the USCA and then
we turn it around went six and six all for
a season. Wasn't the season? And everybody else saw it's
gonna take him a little while to get his people
in there and get his system, especially in the NFL.
Look what he did in Seattle. The guys wanted to
man and he is going to win. They just got

(45:02):
to be patient, as you guys know, there's not a
lot of patience in football to the right.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yeah, what do you think, like to you you talk
about coach Pete Carroll, like he's known for like connecting,
connecting with people, connecting with culture. What are other things
you feel like you got to learn from him as
a head coach before you became a head coach. And
also you got to even though you're younger and in
your twenties, you were around Jimmy Johnson. It's a cat
that's one at all levels. On a boat now down
in Florida. People love to kind of seek him out

(45:29):
for what he understands because he connects with so many
personalities as well.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Let's start with Jimmy coach Johnson. Now, I was a
g I learned from Coach Johnson. I used to on
Thursday night. He used to talk to the team bomb
so I used to sneak in. He didn't know I
was there. I sneak in and listen. The guy was phenomenal.
He's a psychiatrist. The players loved him. The biggest, battest

(45:52):
player on the team feared him. I give you a jump.
You see how his hair is all. Yeah, Coach Johnson
will go joggle on campus every day. You know, man,
we all was with his shirt off. No, I got
ridicue for jogging with my shirt off at l s U. Well,
Jimmy could, so I couldn't do right. Yeah, I look
a lot better with But look, we lived some shotgun officers,

(46:17):
So coaches come back. Now, he put that hairspray in there.
He'd have that hairspray and he'd have it all right.
But he'd be coming down the shotgun hall and you
coming this way meeting him with Coach Johnson. If he's smiling,
you keep on walking.

Speaker 10 (46:29):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Man, he has that frown on his face. You take
the first door you can and go hide till he passed.
I mean he just had that control over you. Man.
He Jimmy knew how to push buttons. And I also
learned from Coach Johnson besides coaching football is how to recruit,
how to take special teams guys. I mean take safeties,

(46:52):
moving the linebackers, the linebackers, moving the defensive end, defensive end,
the defensive tackle. He wanted speed, He wanted to speed.
The biggest thing here he taught me, He said that
you got to have a smart quarterback. Everything that I've
done from USC and the l s U was marked
off the his blueprint and Coach Carroll's.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
What what are the things you look for when you're
finding those hybrid types are going from like safety to
backer or backer to d N or d N the
d tackle. Obviously it's like body genetics and everything else,
But are there like philosophies in your mind to where
you're like, this is how we're gonna be able to
make him, you know, get a little bit bigger, move
to this position.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
The biggest thing that I needed to do was get
him in camp and have them through mo drills and
not listening to anybody else. Get the height, the waight
to speed. Jilly stretching all that stuff, flexibility and then
to see their character love football. Now we had some
camps though, this is this is what the baby's in

(47:56):
camp now? We got after times. Yeah, we want We
couldn't have path then and we didn't even have help us.
We went full speed. Man, that broken over good, no matter.
We want to find out how tough they were and
how competitive they were and when it got tough, where
they at. You you know, to play at usc to
play at Miami, to plant us you you got to

(48:17):
be up there, man, And it does It's not all
all talent. It's about heart, about grit. You know, you
go to Alabama that that that that guy across from you,
he didn't want to talk about math one hundred, big boy.
You want his way there. You hit in his way
to the NFL, and that's all he wants to prove

(48:38):
that day. So you're going to compete at the highest
level in some very intense environments. So you want guys
that can do that.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Yeah, who's a cat that you converted that was against
converting to a different position and is obviously like say,
worked out in the NFL or you're like you're pumped
at Fortunately you got him around and them taking that
advice was.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Probably the biggest one tied end defensive line. But a
guy you're very familiar with, Clay Matthews. We recruited him
as a walk on. Now we knew his dad. We
were great friends with the family and his brother, your
older brother, Kyle was with us, and Kyle was a safety.
But Clay came in there. And I'm not sure that
Clay weighed about two hundred and twenty pounds, maybe two

(49:18):
hundred and fifteen, and we recruited Clay to come as
a walk on to the USC. I went to Ole
Miss and Coach Carroll called me, goes heady. You know
that Matthews boy, and he's about two fifty right now.
I think he's gonna be a player. Clay Matthews, how
about that?

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Probably that's probably our biggest gift as a walk We got.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Some good Clay Matthews stories, like why wasn't he a
guy that got a scholarship?

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Yeah, I can't tell you that much. I didn't know
him that well, but when he got there, he's a
great kid.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
I love him that How quickly was he on scholarship?

Speaker 1 (49:49):
I'm sure after I left? Yeah, because you know I
was there when he's a walk on. I'm sure that
next bring coach Carroll saw it. I wasn't there.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
And what was your last year at USC?

Speaker 1 (49:58):
My last year? Let's see, how was at USC from
nineteen ninety eight through two thousand and four? Was my
last year?

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Gotcha?

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Two thousand back to back? But but I came back.
I came back with Kiffin later on and stayed there
a couple of years.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Yeah, what was the reason for you to party the
first time?

Speaker 1 (50:19):
I got the head job at all?

Speaker 4 (50:20):
Miss head job at ole? Miss gotcha? Okay, so we're
recruiting these guys. Let's go back in time a little bit.
We've had a lot of SEC guys on here. They've
never admitted it, but we all know that SEC was
an IL before an IL.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Hey you know that?

Speaker 7 (50:36):
You know?

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Hey, hey, what's work?

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Way past it now?

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Just admitt it? Oh good, Hey know what let's say it. Coach,
you know you've been not a coaching for a while,
and though, how do you adjust at nil? So well,
it's a minor adjustment. And what do you mean? I said?
Back then, we used to walk through the back door
to cash. Now we just got to walk through the
front door a joke.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
Yeah, time joke, and that's a joke. If we're still
playing in the lanes of jokes. I heard there was
some like unwritten rules in the SEC, like if the
kid is in Mississippi, for instance, like no other SEC
school like Georgia Alabama could offer more than what Mississippi
State are Ole miss would offer. Is there any truth

(51:25):
to that at all, because it seems like to me,
I hate to cut you off, but like playing we
both played in the Big Ten. He played in the
Bag twel for two years, in the Big Ten for
two years. Big Ten is like a conference that like
we all have our schools and then and that's kind
of it. The SEC is we have our schools, but
as soon as the school goes to play bowl games
or anything else, it's like, fuck you, we're the SEC.

(51:45):
We don't care about you know, everybody against SEC, which
I kind of love how everyone kind of stays can
join at the hit there. So it seems like if
there was going to be an internal structure of how
to hey, we're all gonna not tell on each other,
there's gonna be some you know, unrich matter respect. Yeah,
there is an old miss in Mississippi State. We're gonna
offer him fifty k. Alabama can't come in and off

(52:07):
sixty k? Is was there any truth or validity joking
truth or validity to uh these unwritten rules law, you've
been gone a long time. Totally, we're out. The NBA's
are done well.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
The rules are about to be broken, unwritten rules. But
they were broken all the time. Yeah, let me say
it all depends on good the play was? How about that?

Speaker 4 (52:34):
Fair enough?

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Can't tell you one great recruiting store between old Mississippi State.
Had a young man committed to me for three years, right,
all of a sudden he gets a little scorely, right,
so we can't find him? When what was that he
hid in back in a back room in a church
for four days before signing days in a church, him

(52:57):
and his family in the back.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
Room seeking asylum.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Yeah, well, the good Lord, the good Lord's on that that, uh,
that this church wanted to donate him a little bit
of money if he went to Mississippi State.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
That is crazy. Yeah, so where we're fighting quite a bit?

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Was it?

Speaker 4 (53:20):
You said you had a kid offer for three years.
So he's a freshman and you're offering him right, how
soon in the in the South are we offering guys?
Because it you gotta see like these eighth graders now
they're kind of getting looks in A crazy concept to me,
but is it really do you recruit? How early are
you a connect?

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Keep going?

Speaker 4 (53:34):
We gotta start getting after this guy.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Bring up a good point. When I went to Syracuse
when Paul Pascaloni is great Joba was early recruiting. That's
where we learned how to do it. I brought that
concept to USC and I said I was the first
became the head coach at all miss We started offering
juniors and southomost and everybody's like what And I'd offer

(53:58):
like three hundred and then they go, well, he's only
got twenty five scholarship. I well, we had all missed.
We may we may get one out of ten. If
you at Alabama, you're gonna get it. Maybe everybody you're
gonna offer. So we kind of brought that concept from
from Joe pa from Penn State to USC to my
dollars to the SEC. Okay, so now, but at all

(54:21):
all depends who's doing the offer. You can have some
assistant coach making some offers. Those are not valid. The
only time you have a valid offer is from the
head coach when you're sitting with your mama and daddy
in his office. Okay, Now, if I offer a kid
in the state of Louisiana and I'm the head coach

(54:42):
at LSU, I came back off of that offer before
offered a kid somewhere else and we decided to go
other way with another player, I can back off of
that offer and not get as much flat. So it
all depends who's doing the offering. Yeah, you know what,
you like to send out a bunch of offers. The

(55:03):
offers nowadays or not as villard as they used to
be about ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Yeah, So if a head coach or an assistant coach
is making an offer, it's almost like the psychology of
starting to massage that recruit and knowing that you know, yeah, well,
he's when push comes to shove, you go a different
direction exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
You know, we used to call it, you're going out
fishing on your own. It's like driving the bus on
your own. You're responsible. Yeah, But anyway, I think guys
offer to get in the game to compete, you know.
I think other guys talk about hey, I got an offer.
I got an offer. Well what's the offer from? So
it all depends the scale of who you get the
offer from. But to answer your question, yes, eight do

(55:42):
get offers by head coaches nowadays. Yeah, it's crazy, but
they do it to get in the game.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
You get in the game because there's how many stories
if you heard, were I wanted to go to this
school but they didn't offer me until farther down the line,
right before sunning day, and so they feel some type
of way like, oh, you're only offering me because this
school offered me.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Thanks somebody.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
You guys are for the eighth grade. It's like they've
wanted me forever since pub for puberty exactly right, what
did you what did you notice the biggest difference? Obviously Miami.
I'm sure recruiting was relatively easier at Miami and USC
than opposed to Old Miss. Like what kind of road
roadblocks did you go into first time head coach at
Old Miss? You're like, oh, ship, Like these guys aren't
just biting a chomping at the try to come here?

(56:21):
Like where did you have maneuver from your recruiting at
that point?

Speaker 1 (56:24):
You know you have to have a bigger pool. Yeah,
bigger pool.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
So that's why you get into three hundred guys.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
That's why I get three hundred guys. We went to Florida.
You know, I got dexteram cluster from Florida. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
Yeah, I played with Dexter in Tennessee my first couple
of years.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Yeah, was quick, he was, he was.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Older, but he was still very elusive.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Great guy too, Yes, great guy. And uh you know
back then, they had U b YU internet courses. Yeah,
I should I.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
Should have Brigham Young University.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Yeah, they had internet courses that you can take. I
should have invested in the deck. I put a lot
of a lot of boys than the b YU. Yeah. See,
we had to. We had to go in and the
first thing a recruiters say, he's not gonna be eligible. Well,
you also have learning disability tests, you have internet courses.

(57:13):
You have a lot of ways that I learned when
I went out to USC in order to get help
the young men to get eligible. You you get LD testing,
when they get extra time, all that stuff. So we
brought that to ole Miss. We did a lot of
that stuff with ole Miss and it was all up
and up the other Uh, you had Alabama and LSU.
You don't have to do that. In fact, you all

(57:35):
remember Ray Kwan Davis. I do not big time defense
A lot love him. I went to the school when
I was at LSU is assistant and you is a
Merilian high school and you the people are there and
we helped them become eligible. Now, Alabama and the other
schools thought that he was gonna be a junior college player. Yeah,

(57:57):
so I helped to be eligible. What the hell them?

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Once he got eligible?

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Once he got eligible, you know, that's that's where that
back door loving comes. Listen, I know a Crimsons that
looks nice. But how about this right here?

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Hey, hey, stuff happened competing? I love too.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
It's like, hey, you know, we're trying to help the
kids get eligible. It's like we're trying to help the
kids get eligible so we can get these We got
to figure find ways to get the kids get football team.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Was there ever concern for you about these kids who
are eligible, like, hey, are they gonna be able to
pick up a playbook? Or you're like, hey, that's secondary.
We gotta get them in the door first.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
You know, you bring up a good point but if
a kid is learning disabled in college, we have the
ability to have some learning disabled tutors to help them out. Yeah,
and and was it a high school? They don't have them.
So it all depends, you know. The first thing that
I did and when I we talked about character when

(58:56):
I went to the Goddess Council, guess where I looked
at first class attendance. You guys both played right.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Yeah, class checkers the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
If he was but but if that guy was going
to school and he was trying, I'm gonna recruit him.
But if he was late, he ain't going to school.
Ain't recruiting has ass Then the next thing, you know,
where I went to the security guard that worked in
the parking line, say, man, when Johnny comes to school,

(59:31):
what's going on, coach? He's early, his uncle brings him.
He's always well dressed, he got his booked in his hand, studying. Yeah,
what happens when when Johnny comes to school, Coach, you
don't want no part of it. He comes to different
every day, come a different car, He not dressed, he
smelled like they've been doing stuff that he's not supposed

(59:53):
to do. He's late. Sometimes you can learn so much
by getting your feet on the ground and asking questions
of the right people.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
That's fascinating to listen to ya.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
Going out and getting like everyone thinks you go talk
to the head coach, a position coach, a coordinator, and
that's kind of how you make your decision. But to
go that's that's awesome to do the nuances of the
guidance counselor of the security guard. But that takes a
long time. Yeah, but if you're like, if you have
to go through that process, it's boots on the ground.
As a head coach and as an assistant coach. How
many days of the year are you on the road?

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Well, first of an assistant coach, I hit twelve schools
a day. Twelve note you can do that. Yeah, I
didn't do to Mississippi. I don't anyway. I don't know
if you get twelve school of the week that Joe
ell I love those guys. But you know, speaking about

(01:00:47):
the security guard, I knew a guy so well at
a major high school in Los Angeles. He would call
me when the other schools will come to visit the kid.
Then I'd have him go sit at the meeting and
he right down notes, and he tell me what the
moon of schools are talent.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
No ship out there playing security guard out there like
a c CIA that boy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Hey that that security gord eate more state than it's
not the room than anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Oh that's no, that is uh, that is cool to
hear too, Like trying to figure out the character of
a guy, because my head coach is Bo Polini in
Nebraska and he this man did not play about did
not play about class. He's like, I'm not here to babysit.
If you ain't gonna do it money through Friday, you
ain't gonna be out there on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
Yeah, the mother the class thing. I was a cat
that will had to be. I take an online courses
my senior year. My freshman year of high school was awful,
so I was like doing the full senior schedule plus
a full semester online. End up being eligible. And then
when I get to Michigan, They're like, hey, what do
you want to do, And I was like, I'm going
to the NFL, so just put me in whatever, And
so they put me in all the same classes that
are like, you know, there's fifteen other football players as well,

(01:01:59):
and quickly learned my first year, like, oh, the class
checkers come to every single one of these classes. This
is awful. And I would get six a ms every
other day. So eventually I learned how you got to
take a couple of X classes outside of the perimeter
of what these regular football players are taking. See, you
give yourself a little leeway here and there, They're not
gonna come and just haunt you down. So we've all
got tricks, Coach, We've all, We've all got tricks. Oh,

(01:02:21):
miss happens? Where to then back to usc.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Ole missed life lesson for us all. I get fired.
I didn't do well, Coach Carrol told me, he said, ed,
you cannot coach the team like it coached the defensive line. Look, man,
I had three of these. I had coaches and ice doves.
I had coaches at IVS. The doctors come to me say, coach,
it looks like a mash unit. What the hell are

(01:02:46):
you doing? Cried Gride. That just I just was my mentality.
And so I get we'll get fired, and I'm going
home and I'll call one of my mentors, and I'm
naturally doing what right, raaming this and blaming that. Go hey,
Erro's wrong. The best piece of advice I got and
coaching from a mind coach. He says, you know those

(01:03:10):
may or may not be true. He said, you can't
change that. The only person you can change is you.
He said, now, what you going to change about you?
Big boy? God dog? None of us want to hear
that right now. I didn't want to hear that, Shah.
But I spent whatever time it was looking at the

(01:03:33):
things that I did wrong and how can I improve
to get better? Watch coaches, shows, studies, people, and guess
was the two things I came up with. If these
players know how much I love them, dislike my kids,
they'll go through a wall for you. And if we

(01:03:54):
can't show them that we have the knowledge to get
them NFL NFL right. I want to do that right.
All conference was to get them to where they want
to go. We're good. And those are the two things
I stuck with. And the third one was I will
not show any coach any disrespect as much as I
can on the football field, and I will bring him

(01:04:17):
in and say the next day I'll calm down. I
want to make a decision that night. God do get
a little while on the field and look at the
film and they walk down the hall and say, hey, Jimmy,
turn on play twenty four. Man, tell me about that
left tack. What we're gonna do, hey, coach? And here's
the you know, here's the worst thing a coach can do. Hey,
what what the y'all? Please? You know? Hey, what's that

(01:04:37):
linebacker doing?

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Coach?

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
I don't know what the hell he's doing? Well, if
you don't know what the hell is he's doing, who's
gonna know? Here's the proper answer, Coach. I gotta get
his alignment better. He's supposed to be fut the foot
on the center. He's inside front spitting the cross. I'm
gonna cover that. And then, Coach, I gotta get his
feet right. So I'm gonna do some drills with his
feet today and then I'm gonna get him on a sled. Teach,

(01:05:00):
you amount to come out of his hips and get
off a block. What the coach gave me a solution? Yeah?
You know what?

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Any accountability as well accountability?

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Right, you don't never throw your players on the bus. Man.
You guys know that if your coach does, you don't need
a bus. What you gonna do with them?

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
Be passed.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Yeah, gets tight. What's going happen when you playing on
Hio State fall?

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
The trust is kind of gone. You're like, I know
you don't go If you're talking to me like this
right now, I know you don't got my back in
the room.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
No doubt. And it's even more than like in the
NFL too, because they go on these means if they
make decisions about rosters, and if you if a coach
is talking to you a certain way in front of
your face, you can only imagine what's taking place.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
You guys know this, okay. When a coach stands up
in front of men, Now, I think a coach needs
to be a leader of men, okay, And the only
way to be a leader of men is to be
a damn man. I'm not sure sure that goes on
nowadays from what I'm saying on TV. Okay, but when
you stand up there, you transparent. If I'm coaching y'all,

(01:05:57):
y'all know, y'all know all about me. Man, You don't
know who I am, don't know where I'm coming from.
You know I'm first in the fight with you. You know
I recruited you. You normal be there for you. But
you know I'm gonna get on your ass to get
you better. You know, I go to the grocery store.
You know my personal habits, you know everything. He's transparent.
If a coach goes up there, it's a fraud to

(01:06:18):
his players, it's ober and you guys know it. You'll
know true and you know who are fraud. So I
think those qualities in the head coach have to be there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
So after old miss, you go to USC, you go
back to USC.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
I go to Saints.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Oh, you go to the Saints a little NFL, try.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
The NFL for a little bit, and uh, I work
for Sean Pateon. Well, what a great coach man, what
a great offensive line. But you know what I missed college.
I missed the recruiting. I missed you know, I've always
been a father figures to these guys. And in this
NFL you got then it happened and uh and they
make a lot more money than you either a little

(01:06:57):
man on the totem pole. So long story short, I
went back into uh college football with the Tennessee with Kiffin.
We'll stayed there for you, and then went back to
USC and then they fired coach after two seasons. I believe.
And the third season I became interim head coach and
we had a good run. We had a real good run.
Then that's when the E was on the staff. He

(01:07:19):
with us Chacklar.

Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
Obviously Lane Kiffin, he's been consuming the sports media right
now with the decision, how he went about the decision, everything, Like,
give us some insight on Lane Kiffin and the kind
of individual he is.

Speaker 7 (01:07:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
What's crazy too, is like just listen to the coaching
history you were at because the Tennessee stuff gets brought
up when all this is going down when he leaves
Ole Miss and talking about just all the stuff that
Lank Kiffin is known for. But knowing that you're at
Tennessee with him, you go out to USC with him.
You've been a head coach at Ole Miss, You've been
a head coach at LSU.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Lane treated me with utmost respect. I was like head
coach number two on the staff. The reason I went
back with him because he and I were tight at
the at USC. He was a young coach now, but man,
a great, great recruiter, a great evaluator, had a bright
future ahead. We stay close. I want to go work
with his daddy, Mont Kiffin That's the reason I went

(01:08:12):
to Tennessee. And then the USC job comes open. Look,
nothing wrong with Tennessee, but USC and we had been
there in Tennessee's just a little bit different. I believe
we would have stayed at Tennessee, we'd have won the
SEC East, and we would have played in the championship
for years to come. We were doing a tremendous job there,
tremendous job recruiting. So we go to we go to

(01:08:34):
uh Jack to go to the USC, and man, he
does good the first year and the second year is
things kind of kind of went south a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
How they go south? Just wins and losses or we
were losing the locker room, Like what took place?

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
Yeah, well, you know, we're doing good at offense, and
that was shocking to me. But we got beat sixty
two to something borregaon and and that's when I knew
we had to go from the four to three to
the three. And I felt like burying myself in the
coliseum that day. But Lane asked me, what do you
think's wrong? Said, we gott to go three four, and

(01:09:07):
we went through three four. Man it worked out a
little bit. Did he lose the locker room a little bit. Uh.
I don't know what was going on in personal life.
Uh I just went to work and went home. But
I know thing was starting to slide a little bit.
And so you know, he got fired on the tour
back and then the next day they dad interim head coach.

(01:09:28):
And all the things that had learned, all the things
that I said I was gonna do, now it was
time to take my little notebook out and learn, and yeah,
do it. Now.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
How does your relationship you talking about you and Lane
having a great relationship. He gets fired and they're like, hey,
now you are the head coach. Does that change any
bit of a dyamic? Does he feel some type of
way about that?

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
No, he was recommended me for the job. He said,
coach was doing doing a great job, and we had
won five games in a row. He said, I rect
I think usc ough to hire. And look after that,
he's always asked me to go with him. He's always
asked me to be part of his staff. And uh
so we have a great race.

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
Did you throughout this process, did you have any conversations
with him about possibly being with his staff at l
s U.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
You know, here's what happened. He actually, is.

Speaker 4 (01:10:14):
There not a better personality for bats than this man?

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Like here? Yeah, he had he had actually he called
last year. He had called. He was gonna get a
job and he wanted to know if I want to go.
I said, you know what, I'm not ready to do that.
I'm with my boys. I got three boys coaching right
now and I'm still still in the processes of getting there,
getting there, getting them going a solid foundation. But he
had called, he said, you know, what do you think

(01:10:36):
about l SH And I gave him nothing but rave
you know, great great reviews, and uh, it never came through.
Like you know, he never called me and say you
want to come. I never called him and say I
want to go. You know, he knew I was going out.
I was planning on going back and coaching. Uh what
LSU been a good fit with him? Do I think so? Yes?

(01:10:58):
But you know, as a head coach, when you're going
to a situation like that, you got to fill out
the labor land and you got to do his best
for you. So he's got his defensive staff. He hadn't
called me, which is good. I wish him the bessel up.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Yeah, what are your thoughts when him being eleven and
one at Old miss and making a switch to l
s U, knowing that you've been in both you've been
in both of those worlds because it's just that much
more of a premier job than All Miss Because again,
it's like, you're in the business to win a national title.
You can win one this year because you're going to
take a you know you're going in with LSU trying
to like, I want to go win a national title

(01:11:32):
in the future. It's like, man, you can win right now.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Yeah. You know, when you at LSU, you can play
with Georgia and Alabama on a consistent basis because you
have a photo recruiting gown. I don't know if he
feels like he could do that at Obis in Toby,
but you can go there's justin Jefferson, and there's there's

(01:11:55):
a there's Jamaar Chase, and there's myliite neighbors within two
hours driving this of each other and three of the
most prolific NFL receivers. It's a fertile recruiting ground. It's
much more fertile than the state of Mississippi per capita LS.
She's got more player in the NFL than anybody. So

(01:12:16):
I think that's that's the reason he.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Do the state of Louisiana to that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
Yeah, well with N I L and everything like that,
if you have enough money coming into your program. The
way it works now is like who's gonna pay me
the most money? Like the loyalty doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
You're gonna have a.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
Couple of outliers that are like I grew up an
LSU tire fan, I grew up in Alabama.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Fan.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
I'm gonna go to these schools regardless. But for the
most part, these kids will go to the highest bidder.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
That's right. Yeah, that's right. But when when when it's close,
they gonna want to stay in Louisiana, right, that's right.
And the recruiting still comes on, you know what I'm saying,
and the development the guys are great office of mine though. Yeah,
what happens with Lane is that is Miny Kiffin. You
know he grew up on football. On game there. I've
never seen anybody see all twenty two. Now. You guys

(01:12:58):
played You played line, I played line. We looked at
each other, right, yeah, we didn't see the scoreboard nothing else.
You whip my ass, I whip you over getting that
in a bad mood and that's it. That was that
was our job. Fine backer, you at least stood up
and saw a formation. You know, I saw it. I
saw hies. You know. My coach told me whip his ass,
get to the ball and get down a bad mood

(01:13:19):
and come back. You think I will call the time out. No,
So you were more priviate to formations and adjustments. And
like the quarterback right lane sees all twenty two in
the field in slow motions and he's gonna get you. Now,
he's gonna get He's knows what you're doing on defense
and he's gonna get You know, every offense has a weakness,
every defense has a weakness. He knows how to get

(01:13:42):
you a by formations, by shifts, and he likes to
run the football. I mean, the guy led the SEC
in Russian the last five years. Think about that ole
miss led the SEC in Russia the last five years.
It goes to tell you who he is. Is a play
called yeah start dude. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
I wonder if he's gonna get it done at l S.
It seems like he's got all the tools in the
world to get it done.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Out there are you wanting to get back in the
coaching game. I was seeing I don't know how valid
everything is, but I saw that you were in talks
potentially Arkansas this year. Yeah, you mentioned your boys. They're
in the coaching They're in the coaching world. You don't
know if you necessarily want to get back into it. Like,
what does your future look like for you wanting to
get back into coaching now?

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
I've planned. I moved out of Miami. I moved back
to Baton Rouge in case we do get a job.
I uh talk to athletic director at Arkansas one time.
That was it. But I have not had a job
offer that would fit to what I want to do now.
And I don't need to be a head coach. I
could be a defensive line coach, would be a recruiting coordinator.

(01:14:43):
But if it fits what I want to get done
at this part of my life, I will take it.
If it doesn't, she was good for me, I don't
have to take it. Yeah, so it's still work. I
am in bad buyout?

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
Yeah, a nice Well isn't here a perfect world right now?
If I said you can have any job you want,
how you want to have it, what is the perfect
thing for you at this stage.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
You can't be a head coach.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
I would go be a defensive line coach at a
major program.

Speaker 4 (01:15:11):
What major pro we're talking about your perfect world, right?

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Yeah? You know what? A team that competes I won't
say a school. A team that competes for the national championship.
A team that has the power and the recruiting base
to compete in the National Championship. You seize one of
them schools. One of them schools. Oh, I respect Alabama.

(01:15:36):
This boy ain't never go to coach at Alabama.

Speaker 4 (01:15:42):
Ain't gonna do it Oil till you goes. Yeah, you
can't draw a line in the sand.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Ben State, Oh State, Nebraska, Florida, Nebraska.

Speaker 10 (01:15:50):
You know, hey, you ain't going to Nebraska. Yeah, Nebraska.
Penn State had a in the hundreds recruiting classes.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
He just really a big school with a coach that
wouldn't be intimidated by me being on the staff. Now,
I don't want to do that. I want the coach
to have enough gumption and know that I'm there to
help him and to be able to recruit a high
level and have the NL money and compete and win championships.

Speaker 4 (01:16:25):
Now, you know, Tennessee just fired their defensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Hey, I love Tennessee. I did. I really didn't, said,
now coached that for one year. It's a football school.
I loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Now, were you nervous when you guys were taking that
job going to USC knowing you were kind of like
one and one and out with Tennessee, knowing kind of
where you were sitting at potential to win the division
in the SEC and win a championship.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
No, because I knew the power of USC. Now. I
happened to be in Louisiana visiting my family when this
all happened, and Mike Garrett said, look like you money,
and that was that was the deal, those three. I
was born of porn of that deal. So I'm in
the I'm in Louisia. Said look, man, I need you

(01:17:08):
to be in Los Angeles night we're taking the USC JO.
I said, great. But then I saw the beds burning
on campus and stuff. I thought it was pretty wild.
It was wild on Capa that night because everybody liked Laying.
He had a great posona bottom self, and we were
doing a great job recruiting.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Damn Jack tough Jack is He went into massive Tennessee
fan like he was massive Tennessee. We're opening up some
bad wounds right now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
Hey how about Rocket top man.

Speaker 5 (01:17:35):
I can't beat it up there in Knoxville the eight
sixth five.

Speaker 7 (01:17:38):
I think that what hurt the most is hearing you
say that if you and Lane hadn't left, you all
would have been competing for the championships.

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
And we went into a dark era after that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
But we'll have you back with open arms. I'm just
a call away. But look here, a part of my
contract is I gotta have all the chicken fried steak
with white gravy on cow holes right down on the river.

Speaker 7 (01:18:02):
Consider it done market tractually.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
You're getting done for him right now. It's already done.
Hypel's already Yeah, he's he's listening to the entire podcast
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
The holes almost three times a week. They love me.

Speaker 5 (01:18:16):
Callouns is great.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
Can't be with the with the awareness that you have
you mentioned like with the head coaches not intimidated by
being the staff, Like what are those things that? What
are those things? You'd be able to explain of the
intimidation factor that you that you could, I guess how real?

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
How real is it you going to the coaching staff
and a head coach being like, yeah, you know, hey,
what was this assistant coach? Well, stepping on my toes a.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Little bit, that's eighty five percent of them goes. They
called me. They already proved it. But you know if
I got you would you know that that length like
lame like that he want that good? Hey, this guy
is going to help me win. Some coaches, there are
some coaches that would be receptive to me being there.

(01:19:04):
You know, hey, man, this guy is gonna help me.
There's some coaches that don't know me. Well I think
I think you have to know me. And it really said, okay,
I need this guy to help me win a championship
like coach Carroll did, like like other people did. But
there's some guys are going he is he coming here
and get the head job? Is he gonna? Can I
handle this? Stories? And I don't want to. I don't.

(01:19:26):
I don't want to be that. I don't. I don't
want to be part of it. Yeah, unless I have to.

Speaker 4 (01:19:33):
You mentioned Penn State. You don't straighten me as a
guy that wants to go up north very much like
are you you drawn a line you can't run?

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Out there with your shirt off all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
You definitely straight me as like an SEC.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Coach Eckler does.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
But well, you bring up a good point. I was
at Syracuse for three years ninety five ninety sixty seven.
It was so foreign to me. Now, Coach Paslona was
great to me. But when they when it snowed May first,
this boy from the South had enough. My wife was
pregnant for my twin boys, and I was shoveling snow

(01:20:09):
to go recruiting, Oh May first, and she goes, why
you look so pissed. I said, it's freaking snowing. Baby.
She was the market show. It's May first. She goes,
She goes, what were we gonna do? I said, we're
heading south. I don't know for this crap. And and
Lumberholder went to Hope the USC the next year. When
is snowing May first? Off?

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Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
Dude, what are some of your best recruiting stories? Like,
you're known as a recruiter. I know, I fucking know
that you got some.

Speaker 4 (01:23:36):
Yeah, you hear about like Jim Harball walking into people's houses,
sleeping over those that like doing crazy shit to land
a recruit to show them, hey, I'm your guy. You
strike me as a dude that would definitely take a
caught in the living room.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
Well, there's a bunch of them. Uh chase security, UH
callabal Chassel is going to Florida, broke the security and
whatever you call that, you call it where you go,
you know you put your stuff in all that through. Yep.
I went right through that damn thing and chased him
all the way down. They came to get me and

(01:24:09):
they said, coach, what are you doing then? But I
told I want to tell him you do not go
to that school. I want you. He goes Coach, did
you just break through the security? And said, hell yeah.
But you know, one of the biggest recruiting stories is
Reggie Bush. This is not crazy, but Reggie was leaning
to Notre Dame in Washington. Okay. I was not the

(01:24:32):
running back coach. I was not the initial recruiter of
that area, but I was the recruiting coordinator. And uh,
I said, man, what's going on with Reggie Hes? Hevised,
so somebody doesn't do anything, And I asked him once
or twice, I guess who's gonna do it. I'm gonna
do it. So I called Reggi's daddy and uh I said,
hey man, what y'all doing? Not coach, what's going on?

(01:24:54):
I said, hey, man, we got well practicing football. He go,
I said, what you and your you and your my wife,
come on down, bring Reggie. I'm gonna feed you some
good food Los Angeles. What Big Eat can tell. And
uh so him and Reggie and his mama came down
out the blue. Okay, wasn't gonna come visit. Came visit
that weekend, had a blast. Then we go play in

(01:25:18):
the Orange bowt We beat Iowa that night. Right after
the game, overlooking the ocean, we'll stayed in Fort Lauderdale. Man,
we're having a blast. Calling on the cruise, A pessident
of the West Coast was three hours behind. And all
of a sudden, Pete goes Aednie Reggie Bush. He goes, Coach,
I'll watch y'all play. I want to be a trojan

(01:25:40):
Reggie Bush. Wow. So now that's the one I got. Okay,
let me tell you the what I didn't get. Okay,
Adrian Peterson right, Okay, So Adrian I went down there
in little East Texas place. His mama ran track. I
remember his mama at Houston. I believe it was a
great lady. Man call great family, and we're going there.

(01:26:04):
I'll bring coach Carol and back then they had those
old kerosene lamps. Okay, now, Coach Carrol, he ain't much
coultury in him now, right, and uh so you can
smell the kerosene and she come to light it because Eddie,
we're gonna catch on fire, said Couch. We will get Okay,
just chill out, Coach, I got this baby. So Coach

(01:26:26):
is a little word about the kerosene. That night, it
was kind of cool. But me and Asian were good man,
and he, uh the coach follow me. So, okay, we
drove thirty miles. We stop in a little country store.
You remember the gingerbread planks she got part of the
remember you know, a little gingerbread plants some pink on it.
But back then, you know, and I, oh, you can't

(01:26:47):
do anything right. There's Asian Peterson. I'm not about to
give him some cash at the store, right. So he
buys this little gingerbread with a coke that was his supper.
Like you shouldn't be man. So we go all the
way to this basketball school, no to school, they're playing
basketball and they walking. Everybody wanted the Asian to go

(01:27:08):
to Texas. So I walk in there with him at
my us, he stuff, mood and all that. So we
sat in the stadium. I said, hell, we door there.
Man he goes. You see that little point guard. I
gotta play him next week I come to come to
scout him. I want to see how I'll go to him.
You know that told me about that young man. I said, what,
so he comes to he comes to USC, has a

(01:27:30):
great visit. Lo was it? So I'm sitting there. Yeah, Look,
we used to when I take him, I'd go pick
him up the airport, right yeah, I used to bring
him down the PHU y'all been there right, Uh, to
Malibu and all that shit. Right then I go around,

(01:27:51):
I go around, and I go through Beverly Hill, all
the big Course road road, Deale Drive. I pulled up
the back way right back then of the USC right. Well,
they would tell, they would tell the and I'd bring them,
make sure the parents were with me, and they tell
the recruits, say, listen, when he picks you up from
the airport, that high rise, Okay, that you're gonna go.

(01:28:12):
You're gonna see he's gonna show you about the big city.
He's gonna show you about that. But look to the side,
to the left, that's Compton. It's a very dangerous place.
I knew that, right, So show them all the beautiful stuff,
right man, He said, Well, they go in the dorm rooms.
You know, hey, look at the go to the dorm rooms.

(01:28:33):
You know they got those bars on the window. You
know what, there's some bars on the weather right, people
trying to break in. I brought him to the best
dorm on campus. Store them. That was out that without
dorm it was. That was all right. So on Sunday
I'd go pick him up, right, and the mother had
to be there, had to be there. Now. Coach Carroll
would go surfing in the morning on Sunday. But he said, edit,

(01:28:57):
I don't want these recruits. Come watch me. I said, Coach,
you got and then y'all been to Manhattie. So you've
been to Manabie. They got the big pier right, and
they got all them homes right. So we live, we
used to live. We used to eat at the place
the Ohio rises right there. I know you got. I
forgot the neighbor. So we'd bring him up to the top.

(01:29:17):
But before we do that, I would take a walk
then enter the pier and I'd show him. I say,
there's j Lo's all the all the movie stars back there.
I didn't know if they lived there. You know, behind
that jael O's house, there's Michael Jackson. I said, look, man,
you'd be first round draft stars, you believeing right there? Wow, man,
that's cool. You know they'd be surfing in me December

(01:29:39):
and January. And then we take them up to the house,
to the top of the restaurant and here's what they say.
There you go right there, Santa Monica, you see abut right? Okay,
So now we said there and to a point, Miss
Mary would saying, Coach, I got something to tell you.
I said, yes, man, now you'll see, as y'all know,

(01:30:00):
a great school academic. So yeah, miss Mary, what is
I mean? Pete would be kicking me because he knew
exactly what they want to tell me. Coach. These recruiters
they told me, you know, this was a bad place.
It was in the hood and all I see was
bad things and it was dass, said, Coach, all I

(01:30:22):
saw is the ocean Rose RoCE State dinners. Of course,
I said, it's Mary. The recruiters lied to you, I said,
of course they lied to me. I said, well, they're
lying to you. Now, think about what they're gonna they're
gonna do when they get you, young man. They're really
gonna lie to coach you. Right, Coach, you're right, we're

(01:30:42):
coming to USC. Baby. That was not not Adrian, but
that would be like eighty percent of them. So we
just knew how to recruit Los Angeles.

Speaker 4 (01:30:51):
Yeah, you knew how to drive around around confident right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
But Adrian, Okay, Coach, I got a problem. And I
know he don't mind me saying this, and I'll say
it what utmost respect because I love him. Because my
dad is incarcerated in Texa Arcana. Bob Stoops has already
going in there to see him. And that was in

(01:31:18):
the spring. Now, this was later on. He said, Coach,
you gotta go see my dad, man, and if you
can convince my dad to come to USC, I want
to come. But there's another thing I need to talk
to you about. So we tried to get into jail,
but everybody will tried, they wouldn't let let them do it.
So I said, Adrian, what is the other thing we
need to talk about? Migo's coach, my dad will get

(01:31:41):
to watch me play in Texarcana. They play Oklahoma games
because I'm not going to Texas. I'm going to Oklahoma.
I said, Adrian, if you're daddy, if they showed them
USC games over that, would you compensate? Coach? I come
tomorrow if you promise me, my dad, because see every
one of my games. I went back to Los Angeles.

(01:32:04):
I want to speak to the Maya. I wants to
speak every influential person that I could talk to, and
I tried to get Asian's daddy transferred from texall can
at to Los Angeles. Jail man, man, I busted my button.
I couldn't do it, man, just there's too many red things.

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
Were you ever close?

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
No, No, you can't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
That is hilarious. Is that compete?

Speaker 4 (01:32:32):
Is that the greatest distance you've ever gone to try
to get a player?

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
That's compete, that is one that is compete, That is that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
Is competing, that's compete. Is there is there a recruit
out there that you whiffed on, that you were just
wrong about, that you didn't recruit, and that they've had
all the success in the world, my god, and that
you're like ship. I was the one that said, no,
we should.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
Every great recruiter is gonna have that one too. It
was like so many strikeouts, more than anybody else. If
you recruit long enough, you better tell the story. So
when I was at Syracuse, what was the name of
the school man? It was in New Jersey, Okay, And
the coach was a good friend of mine, and he
calls me, he said, Coach, I got this defensive lineman. Man.

(01:33:18):
His name is Tomba Holey's tea New Jersey Tack High School. Okay.
So we go there and we bring him on a trip. Now,
you know, at USC, you got to have a great
grape on average and a great test score to get

(01:33:38):
into school. But now there are some guys that could
be like five special admits that you know, providing their decent,
you can get them into the school. Okay. So he
gets that. We get there and Tomba Holey man, he
was great, great young man, but he had he had

(01:33:58):
a muscle short one okay. And I don't know for
why Coach Carroll thought he didn't have big shoulders. He
was a defensive linement, right, and his shoulders were like that. No,
you know, and uh, Eddie, I don't. I don't know
if we can need to go across the country to
get a guy like that. We got all these people
in Los Angeles and he doesn't have great grades. He does.

(01:34:20):
I said, coach, are you sure? Now I know the
coach there. They say, this guy's a phenomenal player. He said, no, Eddie,
I think we're going to pass on them. Tombley, he
was a dot. Yeah. Andre Johnson, how about that Miami

(01:34:40):
Senior High School? Not a big concruit, not a big
time recruiter. I go down there, I bring him. We'll
go to Beverly Hills, Adrey. I don't know if you
haven't bet Andre. He just a wonderful young man. And
uh So I go there and I'm having a home
visit with him. And then outside the home visit, I
can see hard Rock Stadium right there. I said, I

(01:35:02):
got my work cut off of him. So he comes,
he has a great visit, and he's torn between Miami.
He's storm between Miami. So I get a call USC
being academic coop. But so is Miami. And I get
a call. Now I was down in Miami. That happened
to be the super Bowl right in Miami. So I

(01:35:25):
ain't leaving right I'm there on Friday. The Friday Saturday
Sunday and the dead period before Sunday, I get a
call from an academic uh no, a recruiting coordinator with
academic counselor. Hey, you know, we've been looking at the
pecking order and uh, you know, we got a lot
of receivers in Los Angeles. Coach, we we don't think

(01:35:45):
we need Andre Johnson. You know, I told him two
words and the first one starts with an F. Yeah,
I said, I tell him that, no way, man. I
recruited them all weekend and then the Monday he told me,
he says, coach, just too far for me to go.
But I went about to tell Andre Johnson he didn't
have a scholarship in the USC.

Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
So what if he if he sat there and he's like, yeah, coach,
k I'm coming to USC. What's that next conversation look like?
Are you paying for the tuition?

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
There'd have been a fight Monday morning in the office. Yeah,
and out of one I'll guarante him to you that
do you.

Speaker 4 (01:36:20):
Remember the player on the roster you probably would have
fought to get off the scholarship.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
No, I don't thought the recruiting coordinator. Do tell you.

Speaker 4 (01:36:32):
Sitting here listening to your stories like I could sit
back all day.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
So all right, So the graduate assistance we lived in
the dormitory at the University of Miami. Jimmy liked it
because we was in there and we made five hundred
dollars a month. We on the we ait on the
training table. And this is not the story, but I
just gotta tell you how how the University of Miami
was like a beach school back then, but just tough,

(01:36:57):
hard news and we go eat uh and Miss Sarah
would feed all the players and all the players when
he was just like a big family. And man, if
we didn't make the spread, I no, you ain't. You
ain't getting No, I ain't feeding your ass because she lose.
She better. She bettered the hurricane all the time. That's

(01:37:17):
how she made all the Hey man, y'all ain't making
that spread this week? You ain't. I see her with
a plate of food. No, no, I ain't feeding your ass.
You better get going or height, missir please feed me.
We're gonna be with them. It was. It was just
that type of competitive baptister. Well, me and Tommy Tuckleville
wore gradual sister together. Great guy got me down to
the Universal Movie. But we live in a dormitory. So

(01:37:40):
on Wednesday night we do not like travel money for
the gas, we get twenty bucks. Okay, Well Timmy for
some reason, like a boltary, he wouldn't get the twenty bucks.
So we go get some beer and at the end
we go to Kentucky Fried Chicken and we get a
four piece. Four piece. Now that's the way I left.
Right now, we're feeling pretty good. Obviously we had a

(01:38:01):
lot of two dollars for chicken and eighteen dollars for beer.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
Right, that's a great ratio.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
But we go back to we go back to the
uh My gallery. It's going to be the governor of Alabama,
right and great gun and we always do he's gonna
be a politician, really help great coat. But we go
back there. We go back to the dorm and you know, Tommy,
if we got a case of beer, I would drink
twenty two and Tommy would drink two. Okay, and then

(01:38:26):
does this is the way we were personality ready? So
we go there and there was the four pieces of chicken. Well,
we both like the white meat, right, and we mostly
did that the whole season, twelve games, and I guarant
them to you. I ate the white meat twelve times.

(01:38:50):
That was a battle for the white meat. Think about that, man,
I know I can start laughing. And he ended up
being the head coach at Albans National Championship coach L
s U. He's a United States Center and probably gonna
be the governor Alabama.

Speaker 4 (01:39:06):
And you'll fight white fight, well fight to this day,
still fight over the white chicken. That is hilarious, man.

Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
Yeah, what uh?

Speaker 4 (01:39:16):
What what year were you did you first at the
L s U?

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
Wasn't hitting him?

Speaker 4 (01:39:20):
What year was the first year became the head coach
L s c u?

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
The first year I became interim head coach at twenty sixteen.
That's another story.

Speaker 4 (01:39:27):
Less it was it less miles story tell me I
would love well.

Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
First of all, let's let's backtrack the USC. Okay, we
beat I think Arizona, we go to Notre Dame and
we lose the note Dame. Well, Pat Hayden was a
you know, a Notre Dame fanatic. You know he uh
uh cold games for norda Dame. You know he wanted
to beat him and he was right. The offense was

(01:39:54):
Brian Keller was the office ward with the Hill of Beas,
but we lost. He was pissed. I don't remember, but
when I ran off that field, I took that job
at USC like I was gonna be the interim coach
for a little bit. Okay, when I left that field,
I said, you know what, f that, I'm gonna be
the head coach from now on. And we went on

(01:40:16):
a tear man. We won like five games in a row,
and the Friday before the UCLA game, he brings me
my wife in, shows me the contract because a twelve
million dollar contract. But then for four years, he tells
my wife to stay. We have a press conference on Tuesday.
He's gonna hire me. Okay, my kids come, man, but

(01:40:36):
we lose the u c l A. Which is understand.
We didn't play with my kids. Get on on on
the plane crime. My wife stays with me. He never
calls me on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
About this next deal you're about to sign.

Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
He told me he's gonna call me something night. Off
me the job, full full, full, full.

Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
Time, twelve million dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
He said, I'm I'm ninety nine percent sure I'm gonna
hire you. I'm gonna call you tonight. The cole never
came m I stayed up all night, went on a call.
Next morning, I told my wife, I said, it's a
plane we're going on. I gotta go take care of
some business. Me and him had a meet with had

(01:41:23):
to meet. I slammed that door and I told him,
I said, beside the day my father died, this is
the worst day in my life. Just drumbling. I told him,
I'm not I'm better than the man that you hire.
Do a great job. I love USC and UF me

(01:41:47):
and probably not as nice as I'm saying that right now.

Speaker 4 (01:41:50):
Yeah, fair enough.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
And how long were you at USC at this point?

Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
I had been to the USC from nineteen ninety eight
through two thousand and four, and then we went by
with Lane. I think it was twenty eleven, twelve thirteen.
This was, uh, this is yeah, this is thirteen or thirteen, Okay.
I took fourteen off of fifteen somewhere around. So I've

(01:42:14):
been in the USC but almost eleven years. Coach. So
when we have a team meeting, I said, I want
to tell my team by, and he said no, I said, yes,
I'll tellble team by. It was like a funeral because
all the things I said I do become like their father.
They loved me. It was my team. And I said, guy,

(01:42:35):
you know this USC is the best place for you.
I was still gonna pull for you, your great place.
They gotta they got, they got a coach coming in.
You'll respect them. Hey, we had a good drum. Noah, Noah, coach.
We don't want to hear that. They jumped the tables
and they were crying. They were hugging me and shaking
me and why and they were looking at why just

(01:42:56):
like the dad would never have Man, this is our coach.
What do you doing? And it was so I I
guys picking me up at the bring us to the airport,
and I'm crying. That was my that was my family.
I've been there. I lived in the Radison. I lived
in the Radison for four years. Across the street my

(01:43:17):
my family stayed in UH in Mandeville, Louisiana. That was
by myself. I'd go from the Radison to U S C.
I love Carls Jr. Man I got I give you
a double meat, uh double Western. That was my favorite.
Let's go now try to get letters rap, but.

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
Trying to hear that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
That was my circle for four years. Oh my God
here it is right there stuffing it down. So anyway,
so we get her a plane and this is my
ex wife I'm talking about now many and so, uh,

(01:44:07):
she goes, why why are you so sad? I said,
we got the USC job pulled us. God has a
better plan, you know, it better be good. We just
lost the USC job. Baby, It's gonna be good anyway.
So I spent a year out of coaching. But that

(01:44:27):
was that was a great time in my life. Man.
I always want to be the head coach at l
s U or USC, and that was a hard deal
for me to lead that place. So I took a
year for coaching. But that year for coaching, I got
to see my son's play football and I never watched
to play football. Courts a quarterback, parker receiver. We went
to the quarter the semi finals. It was just a

(01:44:50):
wonderful year. I cook for my kids. Man, it was good.
It was really a year that I needed. And then
I went to LLUSU was less my house. So the
first year went to coach my house. The second year
we lose to Wisconsin and Dream based field up there
and and we played uh it was like someone the

(01:45:10):
kickoff classes so I get a call says, coach, you'll
lose another game. You're going to be the interim hit
coach at the LSU.

Speaker 4 (01:45:18):
They're telling you this. There's lesson of this. No, that
is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:45:23):
This is a back where worlds cultry ship. Right, yeah,
I'll figure that called you.

Speaker 4 (01:45:29):
No, no, no, no, this is a this is an
Illuminati of third.

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
Party third party yeah yeah, yeah, but it's legit. Okay.
So so we go play Auburn. Now I'm knowing this
the whole time. So we play Auburn and on the
last play of the game, we score a touchdown, but
we get a penalty or the clock ran out or
something like that. I don't know what to yell, scream, cheer.

(01:45:55):
I'm like, what's going on? So we lost the game.
Everybody's said right now, you well I have. We lost
the game, and I like, Coach mil was great to me,
but I'm like, this is weird. Okay, So I'll go
on the bus. Meet me at the such and such
station when you'll get off the plane. Okay, go to place.

(01:46:21):
We stayed there atill six o'clock in the morning. They
gave me the blue bread. Here's what needs to be done.
Here's how it has to be done, here's what we expect.
And there was nothing about anybody officially from LSU there, right.
I mean it was just like T boy and his cousin,
you know. So do I go to work the next day.

(01:46:41):
I'm sitting there and it says, happen to more be ready?
So we get a staff meeting, We sit down there.
Nobody knows anything me. It was weird as hell.

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
It was like yeah, and because you said it was
nobody officially from LSU, I mean, was that real? What
just happened?

Speaker 4 (01:46:58):
Was there a piece of you that's like this is
this can't be real? Or were you like, hey, I
know for surely? Was there ever doubt? You're sitting at
a gas station until.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
Coach Joe's by sitting there like they have no fucking clue, A.

Speaker 1 (01:47:11):
Kind of you and my heart it was real, huh.
I kind of fell back like love coach, and there's
all my teammate, I my coaches. I'm like, fuck, what's
going on?

Speaker 3 (01:47:21):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:47:21):
Anyway? So I go to my desk. Yeah, the guy
texted me, is gonna happen? Relax? I said, amen, is
this real? Go to have all of a sudden three
o'clock in the afternoon. I'm walking down. I'm walking the guy,
the guy who's the athletic director now grabbing me by
the arm. Hey, you are now the head coach the

(01:47:42):
LSU Tigers. What let's go. I met with a D
and they got rid of the things I needed to
do on the staff and the way we went.

Speaker 4 (01:47:54):
A couple of things a D.

Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
That's there.

Speaker 4 (01:47:55):
Now he grabs you, says you're now the head coach
of the LSU Tigers. Right, you better hurry up, less Miles.
What's your text to him? What's your call to him?
Do you say any nothing?

Speaker 1 (01:48:06):
Nothing?

Speaker 4 (01:48:06):
So you have you had communication with Less Miles since
this day?

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
Oh? Yeah, yeah I have. Oh yeah, okay, I talk
call him, Thank you, Tell him I loved them and
orders Yeah, we had a good relationship. He had nothing
to do with me. But you want to be the head.

Speaker 4 (01:48:19):
Coach of the USC or l s U. It's been
the same thing. Hold this whole entire podcast, right, So
now have somebody walking up to you being like you're
about to be the head coach.

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
Balance when I took the head job at USC, I
kind of it's not like me a soft pedal. Yeah,
then I knew pat end up, but I said, you know, what,
the hell with it, I'm going for it. When they
told me I'm the interim head coach, you know what
I'm saying, what I'm not letting go the rope. I'm
gonna get this damn job. I moved in the head

(01:48:47):
coach's office my first team meeting, Duke Roddy says that
I acted like the head coach, fired guys, changed the practice,
slipped flipped the script when we went and they were
like wow, and we took a whole fire man shit.

Speaker 4 (01:49:00):
How many games in was it when when Less got fired?
I think it was four four games, And so you
have four games in the season, and what was in
What was your end record as interim head coach?

Speaker 1 (01:49:09):
I think we lost Alabama ten Dutton and I'll tell
you the least one ten nutt. We lost Alaba. Everybody
else will kick your ass. And it was zero zero
in the third quarter going out Alabama. So we were
played really good. We opened up the offense, We're scoring points.
So in l. S U's mind, I was just the

(01:49:30):
interim but they were gonna give me a chance, legit chance,
because the AD loved me.

Speaker 4 (01:49:34):
And they told you, yeah, because you said, they walked
you into a room, gave you the blueprint, give you
the expectation. So when you only have an eight game
sample size, you have no training camp. These are not
your recruits. No letting tell me what was their expectation
of you for those eight games?

Speaker 1 (01:49:49):
Win when yeah, let's shoot, tigers, take get over, open
up the offense, score points, let's go play with some energy.
You're just the person to do it. I did it.
But he and Steve Ensminger, my buddy, was quarterback coach,
and made him office of coordinator and he did a
tremendous job. Dave Randa was there, did a tremendous job.

(01:50:09):
So anyway, so we're going in. We're doing good. Man.
We rolling, we got we got a little we got
little something and we had he was kind of funny guy, Well,
you know this plane tracker, you know, to get the
plane tracker. Yeah, yeah, inside my director of operations, he was, uh,
he was checking the plane tracker right and uh. At
first the plane was going all over the place and
we start winning, start winning, and hey, plane tracker ain't

(01:50:32):
going nowhere to sweep, bro, keep the plane at home. Man.
So were playing Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
That's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:50:40):
We're playing.

Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
Florida gated. And look, although being for Louisiana, I knew
Alabama was a arrival, but I didn't know how bad
the Florida Gators and the Elisis divate each other. So
and just like Nord of the Name and and Miami
in the tunnel, and we fought against Notre Dame, we
were out of our minds. We didn't play well. We

(01:51:06):
lost the game. Not of excuse, but we just it
just when you fight before the game, you know, it's
just not in the right mindset. So Tommy Manful was
the SONT coach at the text and I'm doing a
great job. Comes to me, said, coach, you gotta get
out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:51:19):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:51:19):
Your whole teams fighting. I said, what, So get out there, man,
every I mean they're fighting with Florida. I mean it's
at home and and those guys, you know how, they're
all getting vice. Man, you're just not in your right mind.
So we go out there. We play our worst game.
We should have beat the dog out of Flora. Bumble's
mistake was get down the fourth and one. Okay, we

(01:51:41):
win this game. They're gonna hire me in the dressing room.

Speaker 4 (01:51:46):
You know this, or you're a sing the third party,
third party.

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
The third party.

Speaker 4 (01:51:51):
Yboy had now become important, right yeah, So and it
wasn't about beating Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:51:58):
So we ca all the time out and run this
play called Pilot. And I have this wonderful player named Darius.

Speaker 2 (01:52:04):
Guys a man, yeah, went to Washington, right, A man
now tough.

Speaker 1 (01:52:11):
And so we pilon is. We're gonna we're gonna go
to the left. We're gonna suck everybody in and then
we're gonna hook the outside guy and Darius is going
to the pilot. We'll be a touchdown walk in fourth
and less than one. Right, but we're on the sideline.

(01:52:32):
And I learned as a head coach after this, make
your assistance, tell everybody to play and which what to do.
That didn't get done? Okay, I think responsible Darius went
the wrong way. Florida stops us. Oh my god, I've

(01:52:55):
been living in a in a hotel on campus. I
wasn't gonna let go to Rope. I woke up the
next morning. My stomach was killing me. Man, God, I
was in a ball screaming yelling God, rot yo, piss man. Yo.
My director of operations called me, said, hey, I just

(01:53:16):
talked to Joe athletic director. We still got a chance.
Well he was smart. He's keep me going. So we're
playing things. We're playing Texas A and M for Thanksgiving Day, right,
So we meeting on Sunday. So we got a team meeting.
Everybody's down, you know, and here comes Darius. He got
a hoodie over his head. He was the last one
to get in. I took that freaking hoodie off. I

(01:53:39):
grabbed him and I said, I love you. It's my fault.
I didn't teach you good enough. Really, coach, He said, yeah,
I should have coached you. Bet a son. I said,
I'm gonna tell you what i'mnna do. I'm gonna give
you the ball against Texas and him and you go
run all over the ass. There's a pepping stuff, right yeah,
I said, Okay, I went in there. You guys play,
y'all get this, Hey, guys, just Thanksgiving week we fixed

(01:54:01):
the whip and M's ass no paths. The whole week
they forgot we lost the game. It went crazy. Man,
he forgot we played the day before. Man walked through.
No paths kept him fresh man. So we get on
the plane. You guys know how this. You get on
the plane, right, you're gonna play it in him feeling Man,

(01:54:23):
I feel like I wanted to fight with my buddies. Man,
I'm ready. I know it's gonna be good. So there's
all kind of rumors going on. Right, So you know,
you guys have what's called a sixth sense, right, you
can feel stuff right now. Look, I made a tanel
a C T right, Okay, I don't want none of

(01:54:43):
you boys be too impressed back there. That's after my
third time taking you know, I mean, but God has
given me. God has given me a situational awareness factor
in my life that I can figure shit out, you
know what I'm saying. So we're feeling good man, We're
gonna go kick their ass. Right, get off the bus.

(01:55:03):
We had an hour drive and all of a sudden,
when we get off the bus, we had this place
as big resort, and I see little factions of people.

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:55:15):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
Then my ex wife said, and I promised myself that
I was gonna focus on getting this head job till
the last fricking, fucking I wasn't gonna let go and
get this job. Now. We won't go let nothing get
me back. So we'll go to meetings. He's still the

(01:55:35):
same thing. Little factions of people just you can tell
something going on. So I go home. My ex wife,
you know, she goes out to dinner. She goes, well,
I guess it's all over. Uh what you mean? They
offered the job the Jimbo Fisher to night. I said, no,
Joe wouldn't do that. He wouldn't do it without telling me. Well,

(01:55:59):
I a guy on my staff that had worked with
Jimbo Fisher. He was hiring and firing people or my
staff behind my back. Oh yeah, hey, you're gonna stay now.
You ain'tna standing, I mean, and everybody was trying to
get a job of him. This is the day before
the game, and I'm like, okay, but you know what
Coach Carroll taught me, Eddie, never letting them know they

(01:56:21):
got you. Don't tell them, give them follow it. So
the next day, remember I said, I'm gonna go for him.
The next day when the hotel, same stuffs going. Don't
pet this stuff. So we go to the game. Now
I want you boss, remember us some coach. Okay, we
go to the game, we're going to and m now
his rocket and all that. Right we picked. I know

(01:56:43):
we're gonna kick the dog out of him. All right now,
your boss, okay, your boss, we'll bet the hide ship
from you. Okay, he'll bet to give you the smile,
and he won't bet to tell you what's really going
on through his face. But the wife can never lie. Okay.

(01:57:05):
So Joe's wife and I anty a little Italian lady.
We go to SCC deal. She loved me. I'd have
a laugh and we'd joke, and she wanted me to
be the head go and so the joke. So I
go on right right before the game. You know, everybody's
fire up, joke and shake my hand. Nothing here we go, man,
and I look at any his wife and here's the look.

(01:57:30):
Look I what, oh shit, I'm a trouble man. I
mean you tell that's over. You don't mean something going on.
So we win the tass, and we usually win the tass.
We played defense, right uh huh, I said, as Mega,
take the ball and give it the geist. But I

(01:57:52):
told him wasnly.

Speaker 4 (01:57:52):
Yeah, you didn't give the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:57:53):
I'm gonna give you the ball, boar. We had six
hundred and thirty five yards of total offense on those guys.
We put an ass flipping on them. A guys suppost
to have so many yorks.

Speaker 4 (01:58:04):
So anyway, Darius guys had two hundred and eighty five
yards of rushing in four touchdowns, a seal game rushing
record at lsu O.

Speaker 2 (01:58:13):
Filling in for an injured Leonard Fournette.

Speaker 4 (01:58:15):
Hey, no paths baby, right exactly. So boys are bouncing around.

Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
And look I gave him the ball and look fifty nine. Anyway,
So in the locker room, man, everybody's happening all right.
So we'll get on the plane and you know when
the alumni, you guys are doing the alumni hit in
the back like that, you gotta be covering with they're
coming right down to you. I mean that's when he

(01:58:46):
coming that right. So look, Derek, my director of operations,
right is sitting in front of me, and this guy
goes up behind it going, hey, man, too bad, you
made a good run at it.

Speaker 8 (01:59:01):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:59:03):
So I look in the front and everybody's happy. And
this guy that had a lot of information from me
through the back door was like the uh, what's wrong?
Something wrong? Anyway, next day we meet, we got guys,
we got we've been working on this ship binders. I mean,

(01:59:25):
we got our whole program ready to go. And we
get a call. We meet with Joe leaving. This is
my interview, right, So Derek and Austin's coming with me,
and we got on walking. We walked right, Derek Tiger's stand.
We gotta call. Hey, Joe's about the offer?

Speaker 2 (01:59:41):
Yaller job man?

Speaker 1 (01:59:43):
What we're walking there with the peposte. I'm sitting here,
Derek sitting here, Uh, Austin sitting there. Joe's gonna sit there.
We have a binders man. We all said. Joe comes
in and he's looking like what is going on? He says, there, Joe,
here's He pushes the minders aside. Now this is this

(02:00:04):
is like eight three months of work, you know, by
everybody in the office. Push them aside. Guys, look, gotta
be honest with yo. I'm talking to Tom Herbert Knight.
I said, well, last night two nights ago is Jimbo
Fisher Tom Herbert's night to night. I'll need them more, baby,

(02:00:30):
And I wasn't gonna let go of the rope, right,
So I kicked Derek, and also I said, you gotta
leave now. I pulled my chair and Joe, who I
love to this day, I love Yeah, I said, Jordan, Look,
I'm hitting him right here, right Joe. You know damn well,
in your heart, your belly. I'm the best man for

(02:00:52):
the Lshie Tigers. I look forward to being the next
head coach at l s U. And I walked out
the way. Fuck what did I just do? I hit
him too hard? You know what I mean? I got
I blew it, I said. I told him, I said, coach,
I'm getting lin Kiffin to come with me. Joe, I'm
getting liank Iiffin. He's gonna leave Alabama, He's gonna come here.

(02:01:15):
And so I started calling. I wasn't gonna let go.
I was going back to my home. I moved out
of the hotel. He was over right. So I'm going home,
my home, a mandebilt. We having Thanksgiving dinner because you
know we played them on Thanksgiving. Dare Now how fired
up you think I have to have fucking Thanksgiving dinner?
I mean I got the red ass man. I'm like

(02:01:36):
god oh man ship. So after dinner, gets who certain
that wants the dishes me? So I went, I went't
gonna be in the headcoffy down, shiels, I got a
file of dishes for me, going what just happened? I
just lost the USC job. Now I lost this job?
Are you shitting me? Man?

Speaker 4 (02:01:58):
Discovering this ship? This not one person that that things
giving dinner had any white turkey.

Speaker 1 (02:02:10):
No, no, no. Side note. You know, I just don't
get this stuff. I'm not a you know, I'm not
into the house putting stuff in the dishwasher. Okay, Now,
I don't want to make a bad statement here, but
most people I've been around push the stuff in the dishwasher.
They don't realize there's two steps you gotta take it out.

(02:02:32):
Where where's our dishes washer? Two steps right farths out
of the dishwasher for a week anyway.

Speaker 4 (02:02:46):
So so you're mad as fucker. You're there scrubbing this
out of these dishes, washing the freaking cranberry sauce. Everyone
being kind of nice to you.

Speaker 1 (02:02:55):
Yeah. Yeah. So so I go to bed that night
and the ticker Tom Herban will be the next head
coach of the La Shoot Tigers. So my ex wife
comes to beat and she goes, sure, now she had premonition,
to remember, she told me, God, I had a better
plan on the plane. And now she says, why are

(02:03:19):
you looking so sad? Just look at the TV. Tom Herman,
he's gonna be he goes, No, he won't. You're gonna
wake up tomorrow morning. I swear to got you told
me you're gonna wake up to morow morning. You can
be the next head coach, HeLa shoot Tiger. How much
of you drink?

Speaker 4 (02:03:36):
I want you to?

Speaker 1 (02:03:37):
What's up? So I'm gonna go work out.

Speaker 2 (02:03:39):
Can't ye can't do the two steps in the dishes,
but going on the next day. Just listen to his
wife thinking, lady, you don't know that it's on the TV.

Speaker 4 (02:03:56):
He's getting asked crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:03:58):
All right, Well, I hate to say it, most of
my girlfriends didn't take the stuff out of this walking.
I don't know why, but anyway, it must be me.
It just must be me. Anyway, So chake this out, man,
throw my leg kiff and all this stuff, so you know,
keep off fallside the bed. I'm gonna wake up at
seven thirty. I'm gonna work out of Franklin. Here I
am where I go. All of a sudden, it's all

(02:04:21):
over TV. So Kiffin, you know he's with sex and
he gets all of school, right, I get. I get
a text at one thirty Tom Herman is leaning to
go to Texas, and I'm like, you gotta have us.
He's up at one thirty anyway, So I get it.

(02:04:45):
I'll tell you what. My wife start to wake up.
Next day we met. I get a call five o'clock
in the morning. Is Joe Leva? Well I missed the
damn thing? So I call him, I said, Joe. He said, Eddie,
how you doing great? He said, and you beat Aulis
you an hour? I said? Hell yeah, baby, man, I'm
making up now, sleeping the new numping and stuff on it.

(02:05:08):
How do you know what? Man? How do you knowbody's
put underworld and going a back room. I'm going, baby,
you know, and I'm going down. I'm going down. I
gotta I got a tie hold with a with a
tea top border right, and man, I'm going I'm going
as far as I can as I'm gonna hurt, hurt
twenty down there in the state playing born on to
buy you baby, I'm coming, baby, And all of a sudden,

(02:05:31):
I get the hammer about half way says they didn't
offer me the job. I've been screwed. Before. So I
called somebody. I said, they want to meet me at
seven thirty. Said, I don't think they're gonna tell you
they don't have the job. I think they don't tell
you got the job. So I get there and there's
a big tiger in front office. Right Joe's standing there. Man,
I come on a summers too. Wheel opened the door.

(02:05:54):
He goes, well, you want the job or not? Man,
I grabbed you better road. Yeah yeah, put me down,
your big son of a gun right down in front
of the tiger. Put me down. I'm squeezing him. So
we go up there and he goes, I gotta tell
you something, coach, he goes. He goes, man, I want
to go to bed. Last night, he said, my stomach
was killing me. Man, he said, you remember when you

(02:06:14):
told me you hit me right down, and you said
you know in your heart and you belly, I'm the
best man, fellows you, he said. I felt, man, my
stomach was that I'm not I said, I put that
kath in Greek. Real Yeah. Way we went, man, God
damn the story. Man, Hey, but you know what about competing.
I had some great people around me about competing. This

(02:06:37):
to the very er I wasn't gonna let that USC
thing happened to me again, it wouldn't. It wouldn't have
been that I didn't try it hard enough.

Speaker 4 (02:06:43):
Yeah, held the rope the entire time.

Speaker 1 (02:06:45):
He let go the rope.

Speaker 4 (02:06:47):
Yeah. And also you and USC. It's like I could
see it, but like you and l s here, I
can't imagine you in l A doing a press conference
as opposed to Yeah, God, a.

Speaker 1 (02:06:59):
Better plan tigers fifteen to oh now you'll want to
get to the Joe Burro recruit.

Speaker 4 (02:07:04):
Well, yeah, here's what hell I was gonna say, how
you get from Joey because you recurred Joe Jamar, all
of these guys we all talked about.

Speaker 2 (02:07:11):
Right in your first your first official year as the
head coach, that's when you go ten and three before
you go fifteen.

Speaker 1 (02:07:16):
And oh no, we went yeah, yeah, yeah, I think,
but pull that up quick, Yeah yeah, what was the right.

Speaker 4 (02:07:23):
Because I thought I saw, you know what happened in
the third year you won the next championship.

Speaker 1 (02:07:26):
That's right, that's see what I went the uh one
two years, I think the first year of ninety four,
I think this next year, what first year, well what
ninety four? The next year with tennant three right.

Speaker 2 (02:07:39):
Okay, so your first year was set okay, yeah, yeah,
because Gyce was sixteen, Yeah, seventeen first.

Speaker 4 (02:07:43):
Okay, Now were you sweat? I know you will have
the job for a year. But two and seventeen ninety
four at LSU, that's not okay.

Speaker 1 (02:07:48):
What they wanted to hang me off the bridge and
bat rouge. Yeah, I lost to Troy State, Alab. Yeah,
they will not happen the net. We had a leadership committee.
I had a team meeting. I was told, now, yeah,
you know this ain'tlea cut it man. If y'all don't
want to do it my way, leave now, go for

(02:08:10):
any coach, any player. And they all stayed and I
had a good, good group. But we went to Florida
and word was if we lost to Florida, I wasn't
gonna make the plane ride back. That's all you gotta
tell me, now, okay, all right, okay, which will use
somebody's angle let me on the plane. Yeah okay. So

(02:08:33):
the night before we stayed in Okallo, I thought we're
gonna win tomorrow night boys, good any mind, we'll fix
the kickie's board as we're gonna win. So you know,
Florida has a great It was at two thirty, was
hot as hell. But you remember the year before we
had fun Mamba. I told you what, fuck yeah, I
didn't let players go out with all their coaches, didn't

(02:08:53):
let him fight, kept that cools hot and went back in.
And that was the first time they played Tom Betty.
Ain't no easy way out. I freaking love that song. Okay,
and look it's tied going into the fourth quarter. It's
a CBS game. Everybody, everybody in the world knows I
lose this game. I ain't wearing purple and gold man.

(02:09:14):
I get out on the field and one of the
thirty the numbers and the whole crowd of screaming, ain't
no easy way out. He's thought of the gun. And
I looked out training Jack and I just look it.
I said, we knew it was nut cutting time. So anyway,
I played that. We kicked their ass right the field

(02:09:34):
the extra point kicker, the field goal kicker was perfect
in all his career, and missed the extra point. We
won seventeen sixty nothing. Yeah. Yeah, I walked on that
I walk on that plane like a peacock. Yeah, baby,
I made the plane. Boy, But look that was That
was the turning point right there. That was the turning
port on football team. Now I needed a quarterback. We

(02:09:56):
had springball. I had Jamar, I hid just I'll tell
you the recruiting store by that. But the quarterback is
the guy you gotta have. So we have spring practice
on TV. Remember now they don't want spring ball Animore
because guys are poaching each other and all that. But
we had on TV. You know, we didn't know nothing
about that. So my son Cody is playing quarterback at

(02:10:19):
McNee steak. He called me. He said that I saw
you skirmish your quarterback suck. I said, I know. He goes,
you better get a new quarterback.

Speaker 2 (02:10:27):
I know.

Speaker 1 (02:10:28):
And he said, coach, there's a guy named Joe Burrow
in Ohio State that is uh transferring. You want to
look into them. So I walk out in the hall
of guy's a gritting the tape. I say, anybody know
a guy named Joe Burrow? And Bill Bush was on
my staff. Hey, coach, I was there. I was there
at the recruitment of Joe. He said, Coach, we get
Joe Burrow. We're going to college football players. I said,

(02:10:52):
go get Joe Burrow. No, Joe comes on a visit. Now,
Joe was going to Cincinnati. Luke Fickle was the head
coach there, recruited Joe. Gerald's girlfriend was going to Cincinnati.

(02:11:12):
Joe's daddy coach about an hour away from there. Yeah,
so all the things that Joe needed, and they promised
him he was gonna be a star. So Joe comes
on to visit with his mom and daddy. Great people.
And the first thing he tells me, say, Joe, I
do coach. I don't want to talk to you what hees.

Speaker 5 (02:11:32):
Coach.

Speaker 1 (02:11:33):
I know you're a great recruiter. All I want to
do is talk football and eat crawfish. I'll saying to myself, Man,
if I didn't need a quarterback so bad, i'd put
that song goes That's what I'm playing right now, so bad?

Speaker 2 (02:11:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:11:44):
Yeah, okay, Joe, That's all I said. So the next
day we have a football meeting. There's about twelves. Then
is daddy, Jerry Sullivan, guys that have been in the NFL.
It took me five minutes to figure out member Jimmy
Johnson tell me what first thing versus smart quarterback. Joe
was the smartest guy in the room. Including me, included

(02:12:07):
all the coaches, included mama, my mama, if that ain't
and everybody, and that was okay with me. So we
went through the We went through the uh the day
and then we go to a restaurant. All right, Joe
wants to eat crawfish. Right, So we get there, my
on campus recruiting cornator. Cause comes up to the coach.
They ain't got no crawfish. My good friend Charles Bagler,

(02:12:29):
who's dead today. He said, coach, you've got to be
able to take on your feet. Then on act right,
I said, call my friend Boodroom, tell him to coach
some crawfish. He always got crawfish. Tell him to bring
it through the kitchen, put it on the train. That
says the restaurant, we at and serve it to Joe.

(02:12:50):
I'll be damn thirty minutes when we got hot crawfish
for Joe. Right, Joe's eating crawfishing. Man, everybody knew this, Joe,
you know there it is, right, but they in the
car and see all the stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:13:01):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:13:01):
So anyway, so you know, in any good sales and
you guys know what this about, what you do here,
there's always a crack in the door right right, But
you got assist that crack. You gotta seize it. If
the crack's not down, wait, wait, they're gonna be cracking
the door. And man, I went up to him, and
here's his answer. I said, Joe, I want to talk
to you. He went, yes, Sir, I knew it. So

(02:13:25):
I took him. I said, this might have been the
most important talk I ever had it all my life.
We're in the parking lot. Okay, the gravels and rope people.
The dust is coming Mike Anderson's restaurant, a place we
always went to. And uh, I said, Joe, if you
tell anybody about this conversation, it never happened. So I

(02:13:46):
don't know what the hell you're talking about. I said, Joe,
I don't get you. They're gonna fire me. I get you.
We're gonna win the national championship. That's how important you
are to me. Okay, there you go right there, and
we're in the parking you're to the left, oh yeah,
to the left.

Speaker 4 (02:14:05):
And so you're telling this kid, if if you don't
come here, I will not have a job. But if
you do, we were gonna win it all.

Speaker 1 (02:14:11):
Now there's three quarterbacks ahead of you. I'm gonna put
you on the fourteen and you're gonna earn you way
in front of the football team. But Joe, I know
these quarterbacks. They're good, but they're not as good as you.
I ain't seen that. Damn. Look, ye me, I was
just going on on what I heard, right, and I

(02:14:33):
saw in that meeting, right, you know what I mean.
You gotta take a shot, baby, Yeah, take a shot. Hey,
it was that M and M got one shot man. Yeah,
it's a song. Huh, sweat spaghetti, throw a ball over
the plate. You forget the work. You gotta take that,

(02:14:57):
right man, I can hear That's all. I may get
fed up. That was me out there, so I said, list,
I just playing lose you so by him, and now
I'm just.

Speaker 4 (02:15:06):
Like, I gotta get this.

Speaker 2 (02:15:09):
If I don't get this, I'm dead.

Speaker 1 (02:15:10):
I'm dead.

Speaker 4 (02:15:11):
So what's what's his facial expression? Which is response when
you say I don't get you work, I'm getting fired.

Speaker 1 (02:15:16):
You could tell when you tell somebody it's like, aha,
moment I started looking at that. I know that. Look.
I head home right now. I said, now you're gonna
come run your way, But I know you're better than them. Now, Joe.
By the way, I have two pretty good receivers. One's

(02:15:36):
name is Jamar Chase and one name is Justin Jeffson.
You don't know about him yet, but you gotta love him, okay, coach.
So the next day we have a recruiting meeting. You
guys been there. The Sunday's a business day to me.
Now Sunday is you know, you're nice and nice and night.
Then let's go Roberts. So we have a little little

(02:15:59):
just Joe with his parents and all of the coaches,
and Joe goes, well, I'm going on and I'm not
gonna talk to anybody till Thursday. Now you think my
ass is gonna wait till Thursday. No, no way, right,
So they leave. So we have a little vote all

(02:16:20):
the coaches, all the coaches, why we have fuming. Where's
Joe going Cincinnati? My ass is going Cincinnati. We're gonna
find a wait. Boys, Well, coach, he's not talking to
anybody with I don't want to hear that. So on
this trip I made good friends with his brother Dan.
Now Dad is very talking that Joe is not. We laugh,

(02:16:41):
we joke and everything. So I said Derek. Call Dan.
I'll call him on Monday morning. You guys have heard
the story, right, you guys have heard this so many times.
Then where you think Joe will go? Well, coaches, he's decision, Dad,
shut the f up. Then nothing wrong with Cincinnati, Then

(02:17:04):
Cincinnati or L s U. Then he's gonna win the Heisman. Here,
he's gonna win. He could be a first round draft
dr we're going to that. I know, coach, I know, coach,
I know, but it's here. I said, bullshit, Dad, I said, Dan,
do you love you brother? He goes, yes, I do.
I said, I'm on, come on, I said, Dan, take
your hand and put it down your pants. I said, squeeze, hi,
damn things, make sure you got to he couse, I'm squeezing.

(02:17:25):
I'm squeezing, squeeze hard, and you got to You're gonna
call your brother and you're gonna time to come to
L s U. So he was my third party co
the whole week. We tell this story all the time.
It's true story. I mean, I think you actually was
squeezing him, right, got a fight out, you got to right, Yeah,

(02:17:46):
let's go, bab. So he called Joe every day. What
Joe knowing we're talking to damn Now. Joe says that
the end that wasn't the deciding factor, but at least
I felt good enough my ass one wait till Thursday,
you know, right. So the Boom had a call Joe Burrow, Yo,

(02:18:07):
this is all or none, right, guy, all or none right? Yo,
been in business deals that helped y'all get top. He
goes close, I won't be a tire. What here we go, man,
here we go and look, so we get going right.
So Joe comes with Tommy Moffatt in the summer first day. Now,
I got three quarterbacks ahead of them, and these quarterbacks

(02:18:29):
they got in the locker room. You know how they
got They got these guys. Joe's an outsider. They got
these guys convinced that they had a guy. I knew
in my heart that this was not beneficial for us
to win the championship that he was because the top
of quarterback he was. So Joe gets out there were

(02:18:51):
running one tenth. He wins every one of them. It
ain't even close. After that.

Speaker 2 (02:18:58):
Foster Tomorrow, who yeah, we know Foster friend of the show.

Speaker 1 (02:19:02):
Yeah. Foster hosted Joe on the on his recruiter him
and Foster went through pasta and the whole team was rightful.
The soap got a quarterback throw Joe that summer. I
wasn't there every day, but every day I was. He
wasn't even close. He was not gonna lose on one tenth,

(02:19:23):
he was not gonna lose anything. You saw the competitive desire.
The other guys were trying, they couldn't, and before you
know it, he won the locker room. Before you know it,
the whole team was thrown together at the end and
there was no ammate animals, and he towards Joe. So
we get into two days. Right now, I'm training four

(02:19:44):
quarterbacks right now. We opened up with the University of
Miami in Jerry World at Dallas. So we get about
two weeks and we say, look, we gotta cut it.
We'll get two guys. I had the coaches grade every drill, right,
Joe won every drill drill. But when I we told

(02:20:10):
all the coaches, no, we throw all the quarterbacks, that
we need to start training too, and that Joe and
Miles was going to be the first two quarterbacks. Oh
hell broke. One guy transferred, the next guy didn't come
to practice, and man it was a dark cloud. The
players didn't want to practice. It was bad. So the

(02:20:31):
next day we had to have a a player's leadership committee.
All right, and those are all guys that I had recruited.
And they say, coach, you're rome. Joe's not the starting quarterback.
He's not the best quarterback. This guy is obviously the
guy they believed, and he was a good quarterback. He
did some good thing. So I finally had to put

(02:20:52):
the graves down, and finally put it. I went around,
I looked at every one of them. I said, I
recruited your house, right. I said, I'm gonna treat you
like my son, right. I Have I done that? Yes?
So yeah, I said, you think I'd do anything a
little bit stern o boy to hurt you. I have
to hurt this football team. It's my job to make

(02:21:16):
the decision to show, job to play. I know Joe
Burrow win us to the championship. Okay, you gotta believe me.
You know what this said, Coachoe, you right, we think
they the guy better be a quarterback. But we're gonna
trust your coach. And they went in there and they
told the team and we trust coaches decisions and we're

(02:21:37):
gonna follow you and bam and the way we went
that might have been, but the meeting in the parking
lot and the meeting with the leadership committee and they
they they the ones that the leadership committee took it
to the team and said, hey, we're gonna back up
Joe and we're going and that's how it all.

Speaker 2 (02:21:53):
Did anything come about? When his first game he goes
eleven for twenty four and only throw us for one
hundred and forty.

Speaker 1 (02:21:58):
You know what, be honest, and he'll tell you this,
Joe got better. Now, Joe hadn't played it three years. Okay,
Joe got better, and thank god, you know, think about this.
He graduated in three years. All state basketball player, all
state football player, mother was a principal, daddy was a coach,
great character, great all that. But he had played three years.

(02:22:20):
So he graduated three years. Thank god we had him
for two his first year. Now he got better as
went on, and then we went to the spread and
he just started. But he got better.

Speaker 2 (02:22:29):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah. I mean he's one of the best
of all time. But I'm wondering if you had that
leadership meeting to where you're like this, the guy we're
going with everybody's against it. You have the first game
against Miami, he only throws one forty and surprised some
of the guys like, look.

Speaker 1 (02:22:43):
But you know what he audible to a player on
four down that helped us win the game. And then
you and yeah, it's kind of like, well everybody saw it.
But later on we beat Georgia. Now Georgia was right
number two of the country that year, and we went
for four to five times and we beat the the
ole guy on Jeorgia. Yea, and that was Joe's major,

(02:23:05):
first major winner show.

Speaker 2 (02:23:07):
Yeah, coming out party that was.

Speaker 4 (02:23:08):
That was a ten to three year correct, yes, three years.

Speaker 1 (02:23:11):
Let me say somethingbody that ten and three year we're
playing Uh, you see if they're undefeated, they're very good.
And we beat getting beat fourteen to nothing. It's eleven
o'clock game. We had awake. It's like and they they
popped playing the Tigers, right, and all of a sudden,
Joe throws an interception and this guy blindsizes him and

(02:23:33):
targets him. Okay, and Joe's in all four. I don't
know the guy that hit him. Look at it right there,
the guy spin on him. That guy right there is
from Yarns and spin on Joe. Okay, the team saw it.
I said, Miles, get ready. Joe stood up. After that,
I ain't coming out. We commenced the kicking these boys

(02:23:54):
ass and joy and never lost another game in shoot
before that moment right there made Joe bow right now.
He wasn't coming out. I mean, he wasn't coming out.
We come in the kicking there ass. That was his moment.

Speaker 2 (02:24:07):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (02:24:08):
That was his moment when the team finally said, you
know what, here's our guy.

Speaker 4 (02:24:13):
Yeah, here his senior day when he jogs out of
the tunnel and his last name is spelled e a
u X. What would how bad? First off? Sol like
understanding your crowd, your fan base changing like that, Like
it's it's very impressive, and it's one of those things
where like everybody's an l U fan in that moment
watching that happen. What did he talk to you about

(02:24:34):
that before?

Speaker 1 (02:24:35):
Who?

Speaker 4 (02:24:35):
Like or did you kind of get surprised by it?

Speaker 1 (02:24:38):
He acts, Derek, Well, here's what happened. You know we're
going so well. I gave him the keys. Joe, he's
the leader. You tell me what y'all want, not I
wouldn't no puss nothing like that, you know what I mean?
But on little things. While I was in on the

(02:24:59):
side of what should do, not do? Go to the movie?
Not go to the movie? I let Joe design and
he went to Derek's coach. If I can put e
a u X he was on his own thoughts. That
goes to show you the showmanship that he has. You know,
a lot of a lot of great players, great coaches
can compartmentalize. I'm sure you guys can do that. You

(02:25:21):
can put one thing in your mind, focus said it.
If you have to change, go to there and come back.
He does. He does it with the best of them.
They went crazy. You talked about you talked about captured
the state of Louisiana, and I think we'd beat uh
Texas a.

Speaker 4 (02:25:35):
Fifty, really beat the ship out of them fifteen and oh,
bro Eaux is such a badass move. That's so fucking badass.

Speaker 1 (02:25:45):
Almost as good as the cigar.

Speaker 4 (02:25:47):
Yeah, yeah, he kind of started that too, right.

Speaker 1 (02:25:51):
Thing?

Speaker 4 (02:25:51):
Yeah? What uh do you guys still keep keep up
with each other?

Speaker 1 (02:25:55):
If I texted Joey your Texas back in a minute. Yeah,
but you know what, I'm not gonna call those guys
a mess. All right, Jamaar Chase, All right, Jamar Chase
is committed to back then a couple of different commits.
You know what I'm saying. And uh, that's one of
my favorite moments right there. You know, I told him
I'm taking either on that seagull board, Prescott. Yeah, I
told my ex wife. Now, I said that right there

(02:26:17):
is gonna be a moment caught in time, and it
sure was. But anyway, Jamar Chase was committed, but at
this time he was committed to Florida. But he came
to camp. If daddy was there and his mama, Miss
de Lee was there, who I love. Okay, Mickey Joseph
was recruit. Who I love, great recruit. But the staff
before and Jamar is big. I can see it, but

(02:26:39):
I wouldn't have done it. Told Jamar he had to
play cornerback. Can you imagine you the mom set? No, no,
we ain't happened, We ain't going to shoe. So he
runs a slug, goal, slant and goal. I guess one
of our best players, our best recruit, almost break his ankle. Cornerback. Yeah.

(02:27:03):
I looked at his daddy and I said, over my
dead body. Jamar Chase is going to Florida coause you
gotta get the mama. So we worked hard, making you
work hard. Anyway, we end up getting Jamar Chase. Justin Jefferson,
Justin Jeffson comes to camp, does the same thing. We've
got best players against best. He's a two star recruit,
right to star recruit. Yes, sir, one hundred and sixty pounds,

(02:27:24):
soaking wet. But both of his brothers played at LSU. Okay,
so he does a good, good job in camp, and
we said, wait a minute, now, this boys in the
state of Louisiana. See, I used to tell our guys,
trust your own evaluations. Don't give it this well Alabama
offered them. We got off of bullshit. That stuff will
get you fired. Let's trust our own evaluation. So I

(02:27:48):
go down to his school, mean it as a coach,
have been known each other for a long time. But maybe,
I said, coach, we will offer justice. They'll feel good
about him. You can played show, I said, gouse, he
did some real good things for us. He goes, you know,
I don't know if he's gonna be eligible for signing
the day, but he can do some work and maybe
we can get for the summer, I said, who else

(02:28:10):
is offering? Then Nickel State and they played in the
run run run offense and stuff there so they couldn't
see nothing. So he got out. I got eligible in
in July, justin just.

Speaker 2 (02:28:23):
Golly, and then just seeing that machine come alive during
that fifteen and over run like.

Speaker 4 (02:28:29):
That of talent bro dude, I mean, arguably the best
offense to ever step on the field.

Speaker 1 (02:28:34):
Yeah, thank you. So Steve is making one of my
best friends in general. We want eighty percent game with Steve. Okay, great,
great guy love He's like John Wayne Man. He's a
good guy. He handles it in the office that needs
to band. But we didn't score any points against Alabama

(02:28:57):
two thousand, uh be seventeen. So in twenty eighteen we
were studying the RPOs, so we brought a young guy
named Joe Brady who was an intern at the Saints
but had been at Penn State with the guy I
forget his name. Uh he was at Mississippi State the

(02:29:19):
head coach. But they were good at RPOs, the run
pass options. So Joe comes, put up, gives our staff
a lecture or run pass options again. Then on Nancy
t right, but central situational awareness. Baby, U do you
know you know what I'm saying. It took me five
minutes to realize whoa, whoa, this's got a special So

(02:29:46):
I told Steve after we played Alabama's and Steve shut
when you n LSU you got how you go beat Alabama?
You ain't gonna tell everybody that to day how you
gonna match? Um Man, it was so dumblant. I thought
we had to get bigger off Taska. I wasn't that
we need to spread the ball out and we need
to get a quarterback. I got him. Now we need
to learn to spread offense. He knew it. I said Steve,

(02:30:09):
if I hired Joe, will you let him teach us
to spread? He goes, hell, yeah, Now I just asked
him right after we didn't score damn poortigaus Alabama. So
that was a teachable moment. Followers right, kind of humble,
and we brought Joe in. Steve and Joe were wonderful.
We went to the spread, we went to the lookovers,

(02:30:32):
and we looked at the sideline. If Joe Brady caught
you in the defense, and he told Joe Burrow what
to do what those two casts we had. We burned
so many people by athletic ability, great quarterback, great players,
and we had a great offensive line in great coaches.
They all came together.

Speaker 2 (02:30:51):
Yeah when did When did Joe Brady leave for Buffalo?

Speaker 1 (02:30:55):
He well, well we went, we went the National championship. Right.

Speaker 2 (02:30:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:30:58):
Now, I don't partake. I don't go out no more.
You know, I've been I've been sober for almost twenty
six years now. Thank god. If I wasn't, the whole
world would know, I promise you. So I had a
press conference the next day. So I go to press
conference and then I get on the bus. Somebody Joe
Burrow's going, Joe Brady's going to the NFL. I'm like,

(02:31:19):
can I just enjoy this stuff for one day? Day?
He was going, no ship that day. He was going, Yeah,
that's the game.

Speaker 4 (02:31:29):
That is the game. Like you have success, they're gonna
take your assistant coaches away from you.

Speaker 1 (02:31:32):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (02:31:33):
Yeah, and then you can't hard to feel shoes like
Joe Brady after that, Man, what a story. Just being
able to sit here and take all that in that
was unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, you were you were at us Cno.

Speaker 1 (02:31:42):
Four. Correct, set again.

Speaker 4 (02:31:44):
You were at US Cno.

Speaker 1 (02:31:45):
Four National chap back four.

Speaker 4 (02:31:47):
You take two thousand and four USC versus twenty nineteen LSU.
They both step up US to buy the grid iron
for the national championship. Who wins that game?

Speaker 1 (02:31:55):
Let me say something to you. We had fifty five
sacks in the USC called the wild Bunch, and we
gave it up one point eight yards of carry. We
led the nation in turn of ratio. But I will
say this to you. I'll tell you, guys the game plan.
You don't need to write this now. If your boy's
gonna be coaches twenty nineteen game plan, you already. If

(02:32:17):
the bus left at two thirty, I'm gonna ask you
a question. I got on the bus and I made
sure damn Joe Burrows on the bus here. I mean,
if he went on the bus bus driving, you ain't
leaving man. We got to the stadium, I say that
Joe throw the ball at Jamoar if he ain't open,
throw it the just and ready break. And I became
a fan because I knew nobody could stop us. We

(02:32:39):
scored fifty points a game. As much as I like
that USC team, we were in the pro style offense.
We weren't in a spread and we could get ahead
of him. And I do believe Miami had a great
team too, But I do believe because of the spread,
because of Joe Burrow, we can outscore anybody.

Speaker 2 (02:33:00):
So you got the Tigers over that U.

Speaker 1 (02:33:05):
He was the head coach.

Speaker 2 (02:33:06):
But still defensively, he's got to think in his mind
too that Joe Joe Burrow is gonna shred his defense.
Ray mald Luga, Brian Cushion, Klay Matthews, Taylor Mays, the
wild bunch.

Speaker 4 (02:33:18):
But look at them, but look at them.

Speaker 1 (02:33:21):
Yeah, that's it right there, boys, make sure they owned
the bus. Look at the NFL. They still can't stop
those two. Yeah, think about it now. How about Justin
Jefferson the two star like you mentioned, was the NFL
offensive m v P.

Speaker 4 (02:33:39):
He's incredible.

Speaker 2 (02:33:40):
What was it like with Raymond Lougan, Brian Cushy.

Speaker 1 (02:33:45):
I was there. I was there with them when not
in their heyday, Okay, but I know them.

Speaker 2 (02:33:53):
That's true for that's they're in their headad like.

Speaker 1 (02:33:57):
But we had it. We we had a guy named
Little with the two Pools, pretty damn good, and we
had some good defenses. We have really good defenses to peak.

Speaker 4 (02:34:07):
I love it. Is there anything that the boys in
the back want to ask Jack about Tennessee? Any questions
at all?

Speaker 2 (02:34:14):
Charm's got one coach.

Speaker 8 (02:34:17):
I'm an alumnus of Baylor. There's been a lot of
talk about Dave Randa and his future at the school. Yeah,
what are your thoughts on just Dave Randa? What he's
going through with Baylor? Do you think he can turn
it around?

Speaker 2 (02:34:28):
You know?

Speaker 1 (02:34:29):
First of all, I'm a big fan of Days because
he was a great coach for me. You know, mean
he gave a lot to Llo. Shoot, I do believe
just like me, now, okay, no different. He's a better
defensive mind than I am, a lot more cerebal than
I am. If I doubt if he only bed a
tennerals AC team, you know, but just like myself, I

(02:34:54):
had to get great players and great coaches. I don't
think he's hit that in mark yet on up overall basis.
He might have had it in spots here and there.
I think in order for Dave to be a great
head coach, he has to be surrounded by greatest sisters
and great players. What he can do now next year

(02:35:14):
I surely hope so, because you're a great person.

Speaker 2 (02:35:17):
That's beautiful. What was it like for you in the
like the fall at LSU going fifteen to zero and
then kind of the dissension going down tough at LSU.

Speaker 1 (02:35:27):
It was tough. God, it was tough. It was tough.
But look, you know, we hired both boll had the
number one defenses in the world. It just didn't work.

Speaker 2 (02:35:38):
That was during that COVIDE and I knew too, like
when he went back to LSU. Obviously he had a
ton of success. Yeah, both in Nebraska, but even before that,
when he was in the defensive coordinator for less miles
at LSU, I thought, but just knowing it, Yeah, knowing
that it was during that COVID year and we were
training over at Vanderbilt at the time, like when we
were playing for Tennessee, and the way the strength coach
that we worked with talk about all the rules and

(02:36:00):
guys not showing up X, Y and Z. I'm thinking, man,
the even double brackets, the way the tendency oriented stuff
that both uses, it's going to be very hard for
guys to execute if they're not like learning in the
system throughout the offseason.

Speaker 1 (02:36:13):
Good through it. Oh yeah, you know how complicated it is.
But bow boy has very intelligent Now it just didn't
get away, you know. Uh, Mike Leach started running crossing
rouss and stuff like that. We were busting it just
it just it was Bull's fault. Now, it just didn't
work out right.

Speaker 2 (02:36:31):
You had to be so detailed in that scene because
there's ways to beat it. But if guys knew kind
of tendencies formationally condensed formations, bunches, guys like inverted alignments,
like you had to kind of know everything going on
for it to be successful. I'm curious too, what was
it like on the sideline with Coach Bo because you
talk about you talk about you being a hot head,
like knowing Coach Bo.

Speaker 1 (02:36:51):
Yeah, let me tell you something. As far as my
relationship with Coach Polini, he let me be the head
coach and he was good. I mean he was really good. Now,
he blew up a couple of times, but he let
me handle it. But he was not he was not
abrasive or bad anyway. Yeah, he was actually pretty damn good.

Speaker 2 (02:37:10):
That's awesome here because the coach Bob would blow up
at times and then the next day not even know
what you're talking about, and you're just thinking, what do
you just blackout in these moments? You don't remember, well,
you don't remember what you were saying to me, You
don't remember putting your hands on me, maybe like pat
me on the head and laugh. And then I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 (02:37:27):
He did.

Speaker 2 (02:37:28):
He cared about his players, Yes, he did.

Speaker 4 (02:37:29):
What was your thought process when you were on your
way out? And they announced Brian Kelly as a head
coach at l s U Because to me, I think
of L s U is obviously an incredible job to have,
but it takes a unique personality to handle that school,
that location, that state, and Brian Kelly didn't feel like
the personally had to handle that were you? What was
your thought process?

Speaker 1 (02:37:50):
First of all, you know, I knew we made a
mutual decision. De we made a musical. We made a
mutual decision. Yeah, I mean after the fourth or fifth
game or something that and uh so I was good
with it, but I wanted to coaches team to then
and I made I'm not leaving this team and we didn't.

(02:38:12):
And you know, we played pretty good, almost beat Alabama also,
but at the end we beat Texas A and M
and I was ready to go where there's enough and
then they went through a little source right there. And
when they named him he was a big time hire
and stuff like that. But I wondered how well he
would relate. Like you said, Louisa has a different place, man.

(02:38:34):
People think different. Uh, players are raised different, people are
raised different in the South. You gotta be a personable person.
You gotta go in there and love him. It ain't
so much about the ex's and the oles and again
by getting them to play and you know, hey, taking
care of him and make him sure, they understand that
he didn't do that. Now what he didn't have to

(02:38:56):
do it more today? Right, Well, if he did it,
outn't know. But when he came out has said family
and like that. It just it just it just wasn't
a good thing. Yeah. Is he a great coach, Yes, he's.

Speaker 4 (02:39:06):
I mean he did it that note Dame for a
long time.

Speaker 1 (02:39:08):
He was great, a lot of respectful.

Speaker 2 (02:39:10):
But it's a different I believe so. But yeah, yeah,
since the name before that Notre Dame. Yeah, I was
curious to how it would happen. Jackie got something.

Speaker 5 (02:39:19):
I'm just curious to know, what does a perfect day
look like? For coach, O doesn't have to involve football.

Speaker 4 (02:39:25):
I would assume it would.

Speaker 5 (02:39:26):
But from when you wake up to go to bed,
what is a perfect day for too?

Speaker 1 (02:39:30):
Just what?

Speaker 2 (02:39:30):
What?

Speaker 4 (02:39:31):
What is your perfect day?

Speaker 5 (02:39:32):
What is your perfect day?

Speaker 1 (02:39:34):
First of all, I married a beautiful woman that's twenty
one years younger than me. Y'all saw a picture on
it and that I got lucky. But I still can
recruit that she is right now, Brandon Nicole, that's my girl.
I love her to death. You see that rock on
a handle. You know what I tell him? I said,

(02:39:55):
maybe you're pretty, You're pretty expensive. She's the love of
my life. Man. That girl had warmed my heart. She's
wonderful and we spent some great years together. So what
my day is now? I wake up in the morning
at five Now she's still sleeping, and I look at
that beautiful thing in the side of me and say,

(02:40:16):
you're a lucky man. So I get up and I
say my prayers. Now I'm involved in Alcoholics Anonymous. I
have a little reading I do every day, and then
at South Beach, I go to a meeting every day
from seven to eight. Met some good friends there, and
then I go to South beach. Now this is it is.
You guys are like this. I've been doing some deadlifts.
I go to Muscle Beach and I started doing some deadlifts.

(02:40:39):
I get my legs back, deadlifts and squats. Now obviously
there's some good sights there that can motivate, you know
what I mean? And so I go work out. I
go lift on. No Muscle Beach got my I just
got my shorts on. Feed in the sand. Then after that,
me and Brandy the cole go we walked this way,
then we run and then we walked the step. So

(02:41:00):
we do everything. We don't get back home until about
three thirty. And then they would go to pool, do
what we need to do, eat something, and get up
the next day and do it again. That's a typical
day of coach O.

Speaker 4 (02:41:13):
All right, well done, well didst work done right there?

Speaker 1 (02:41:18):
Now look here, look and you know what pisses me
off about that? See I call that a job right.
And people have passed me by, say great day for walking,
and coach got them talking.

Speaker 2 (02:41:27):
Boy, you had to you had to check one.

Speaker 4 (02:41:31):
Yeah, there was one old boy came up. If I
could tell anything from this conversation, you you like a
lot of schools. You do not fuck with Bama.

Speaker 1 (02:41:39):
Well here's the deal, Okay. When I was six years old, No,
eight to ten, I met coach Charlie mcclindon. He came
up to me. He goes, hello, he's the head coach
Ilishoo Tiger. I saw the man on TV. Hello, young man,
my name is Charles McClendon. I'm the head coach at

(02:42:01):
the L s U Fighting Tigers. I thought I was
talking to God. That's what I saw the man on TV.
But the man was so nice to me, shook my hand. Now,
we couldn't take a picture. Back then, nobody had pictures
on the phone and we could afford the camera. That
wasn't gonna happen. Was that was for the TV man
at camera? You know. I mean, but he became my
favorite coach. But I knew the power of being the

(02:42:24):
head coach at l s U what it did for
young boy. So ever since then, anybody asked me to
take a picture, I'll take a picture. Yes, I want
to walk this right? How you doing? Actually their name
because it's not me, it's the position. Now. So when
I'm jogging, you see my little job, right, it's not
like it's warped speed. Why I can't stop right? And

(02:42:45):
somebody they told you take a picture. Yeah, well that
situation there. You know. The guy was a good guy.
And then I started going away and he says those
two words that are all like you know, so I
called him like you said, checked them, you know what
I mean. And all wanted to do is teacher respect.

(02:43:06):
But man, I'm on my jog, I'll stop, I'm gonna
take a picture with you. I'm running away. And you
can say he was very apologetic. He was very good.
Ninety nine people OFFI Hey, by the way, y'all see
that picture. You boys, come five and when you're sixty four.

Speaker 4 (02:43:28):
I talked to him about being respectful.

Speaker 1 (02:43:30):
It was roll tied, be respectful. You know. He just said.

Speaker 4 (02:43:37):
He wasn't like, fuck you, coach. He's like, all right, coach,
roll time.

Speaker 1 (02:43:40):
What the fuck now?

Speaker 2 (02:43:43):
A school spirit from arrival? Yeah, roll tight, no, no, let.

Speaker 4 (02:43:47):
Me teach you, the older guys.

Speaker 2 (02:43:48):
I was gonna grab your form.

Speaker 1 (02:43:49):
Let me teach you something, right.

Speaker 2 (02:43:53):
I didn't say funk you nothing, hey, roll tight no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (02:43:57):
I teach you about respect.

Speaker 4 (02:43:59):
That is hilarious.

Speaker 2 (02:44:00):
Should we ask in the bud like question, go ahead, coach, O.
You know how everybody would do anything for an ice
cold bud light? What is something that Coacho would do
anything for?

Speaker 4 (02:44:09):
Crazy to ask? What the uh hey stuff? He's like,
I'm in both alcohols.

Speaker 1 (02:44:17):
Anyone do anything for a butt light? However, what do
you want? You want to do anything for a bud light?
Or want to do any anything for anything?

Speaker 2 (02:44:24):
To do anything?

Speaker 4 (02:44:25):
You cannot say?

Speaker 1 (02:44:25):
Family? Okay, good, good, good, A big bowl chicken and sausage,
gumbole with some file gumbole with it. And you see
in Louisiana we take the potato salad and we put
it into gumble. No, that won't fight a bear for.

Speaker 4 (02:44:47):
That's the best answer we've ever heard.

Speaker 1 (02:44:51):
The potato salad. Oh, you gotta go quickly, go man,
I'll tell you what if you eat no se Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:45:01):
This has been incredble coach.

Speaker 4 (02:45:03):
We cannot see for real because we've been trying to
get you on forever. How long has it been, clump
A long time? Get you up here, hang out, talk
some stories a little bit. We first started, you're kind
of like, hey, yep, this this, and then once you
just started ripping stories, man, it's like set back in
and just enjoy this.

Speaker 2 (02:45:20):
Yeah, shut shut out of coach check.

Speaker 1 (02:45:24):
How we doing?

Speaker 4 (02:45:24):
Man?

Speaker 1 (02:45:25):
You my man, I love you to death. Boy. Every
once in a while, I'll send him a little text
now and COACHK got three techniquetta put a little bit
better now him linebacker? Right? He is?

Speaker 2 (02:45:37):
He is. We were sitting in his office and for
whatever reason, Coacho comes up. He's I'm gonna call him,
let me call him, or you might have called him.
I can't even remember. But you go on speaker and
you're talking to what you're talking with me, Jack and
JP can't even see her faces. And he's talking to
us like he's been on the bus the entire time,
like we've just been like he recruited us, like we
know him and everything else. We're like, Coacho, you got
to come on busting with the boys. I think you're
riding in the car with your wife and she knew

(02:45:59):
about busting with the Oh no, I got to come
on now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:46:02):
She lives in, she lives in. Yeah, she has a
whole mount She knows all about you, guy.

Speaker 2 (02:46:06):
Yeah, let's go, man. I love that Coacheck right there,
Look at it.

Speaker 1 (02:46:10):
Look at that's home man.

Speaker 4 (02:46:11):
Yeah, yeah, that fits that place. I mean he's going
that's as close as it gets. Right, we're thinking of it, right, yeah,
I mean co check, you got got you're getting canceled
with this votel coming out.

Speaker 1 (02:46:27):
Well you can see why he and I got along
that picture you know where you go.

Speaker 4 (02:46:36):
Oh gosh, we can't thank you enough. Man, Give a
brother a plus coach on.

Speaker 1 (02:46:40):
How you got it?

Speaker 4 (02:46:41):
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