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October 3, 2025 77 mins

Welcome back to another episode of Inside The Bus. Being that this is our 20th episode, we had to bring on a special guest and one of the boys, Delanie Walker. Delanie has gotten super tight with the boys over the last couple years and so he had to jump on the pod. He gets into his path from JUCO to Central Missouri and then to the NFL. He also tells some hilarious stories of going to a predominantly white school in college. The boys then get into when Delanie thought he was actually going to make it to the league and challenges he faced going to a D2 school. Finally the guys get into his time with the San Francisco 49ers and the Tennessee Titans. Be prepared for a lot of laughs and some actual real conversations. Enjoy the Friday hang and as always, much love. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to episode twenty of Inside the Bus. Jared's
got he uh. This episode twenty, we had to have
one of the greatest guests of all time, the future
Hall of Famer, Titans Hall of Famer, and just one
of the overall, just one of the boys.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Give it up for Delaney Walker. Thank y'all, Thank y'all,
thank y'all for having me.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
I think, hands down our favorite doubt of the talent,
without a doubt. From day one. Always has shown love.
He always comes to the back chops it up. There's
a lot of stories that Delaney has for us that
can't be shared on podcasts.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
But he is here.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
He has created and added.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
To the culture of the back of the bus more
than for sure, than anybody for sure.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
And that's why this is this question that I was
gonna I was talking about before. I feel like this
question is only for Delaney and like he can only
answer it. What was your first impression of each guy
in the back since you've been You've been around to
so much, you've hung out with so much, coming back
and just chop it up, what is your first impression
to beat you all us?

Speaker 5 (01:06):
That's a good question, to be honest, with y'all because
all y'all have something different about y'all but similar, you
know what I mean? Right, definitely all white, for sure,
all white, but uh, y'all just do something different. Y'all
carry y'allself different, but when y'all get around each other,
y'all kind of almost have that same thinking mindset.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
And I like that.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
But the first thing about you guys was I said
what I thought about y'all were y'all go getters, bro
Because I can remember from the beginning. I don't know
if y'all was getting paid to do this or whatnot,
but y'are not like y'all were grinding, you know, just
seeing the videos whatever coming out, and honestly, like I

(01:52):
can remember the first I don't know how many people
worked on that first episode, but that first episode went crazy,
and I think I got even more popular over fuck
what it was? It It was, uh, these stories, draft,
the type, no draft, the tight end, he won't fucking
play like that. Ship went crazy, right, And then I realized,
like they these dudes get it. You know what I'm saying,

(02:14):
y'all get y'all get what makes ship works. Because even
in the content now, people be like who man, you crazy?
You funny how you put that together? And I'm like,
it ain't me, It ain't me. It's this dudes that
when you see him, you probably wouldn't even think they
were doing that type of ship.

Speaker 6 (02:31):
Y'all athletes, Yeah yeah, now yeah, y'all kind of y'all
got athletic abilities, you know what I'm saying, for the
most part, Yeah, for the most part.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
I mean Jared, Jared is the gangster. You know, he
he didn't play sports. He you know, pull up, rolling
with the with the burner. You know, he he willing
to sacrifice his life. No, but all you guys, man,
y'all seem like y'all was like college dudes and then

(03:04):
y'all has y'all.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Was hungry to be successful, and uh, that's what I like.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
I like y'all. I feel like I kind of relate
to y'all more than I relate to and Taylor. I
don't know why, but that's what I feel right like,
because after we get down with the show, it's like I.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Don't care about talking to them, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
I come want to talk to y'all in the back
because the conversations are more real.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I think I feel interest like you're just.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Back at college, just hanging with a bunch of white
dudes again talking about random shit.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, that's what they feel like.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
To be honest with is like I can I know
I'm older than everybody in here, but like when I
come around you guys, I feel like I'm one of y'all.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
And that goes to y'all just accepting me. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
I know I'm crazy as hell, and uh, the stories
we talk about. Then sometimes I get y'all to open
up about personal stuff, and that's what I like about
it because we kind of we throw punches at each
other and keep it moving.

Speaker 7 (03:58):
So while working on the topic of you remind you
of maybe those college days, give us a little background
story for anyone who's not aware of where you're from
and how you got to where you were in college,
and then then we can kind of go from there
because I know there's gonna be a few listeners and
maybe this is the first time hearing from you, but
majority of probably nine nine percent, I heard everything but.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
The one.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Oh yeah, So first I'll start off, I'm from Los Angeles, California.
Long story, but I'm gonna give y'all that shirt short version.
Highly recruited in college, but I got I mean in
high school, but I got in trouble. I got a
felony salt and battery coming out of high school, so
I couldn't leave. To stay at California for two years.

(04:40):
Pretty much did the Juco route. But when I was
in Juco, man, I was just I was still around
the same people, you know what I mean, and they
didn't care for my future. And I didn't care for
my future as much as neither because if I did
the things that I did, obviously I didn't. But I
had another opportunity. Man, Thank god for the Central Missouri state.

(05:01):
They saw something in me. Was like, look, we want
to give you a shot. We want you to come
up here to Central Missouri. First off, never heard of
Central Missouri, never thought I would be in Missouri. So
I get to Missouri madominantly white school.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
Like, Well, I get there and catch like if you black,
you either play sports or ship you you you want
to be white.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
So at the time.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
So yeah, I know, I was like, Okay, it's either
one shit. I guess I would choose to play sports
for right now. But so I get there, I stay
in the Dorn for the first year, I ain't really
meet a lot of people. But then I met this
guy named Corey Bringers, white guy. You know, Corey is

(05:47):
still my dog. I still I still talk to him
every once in a while. But so he plays safety
and I was like, damn, man, I want to learn
how to talk to white girls.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
And he like what you mean?

Speaker 5 (05:59):
Yeah, he like what your I never talked to a
white girl before, right, So, like Cau's coming from where
I lived, it wasn't too many white girls. And if
it was a white girl in our neighborhood, she was
fucking busty, ratchet, disgusting. I ain't talking to at you
know what I'm saying. She talking black and all that bullshit.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I don't want that.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
So he's like, you know what, move in with me
and my roommate. So it was three of those dudes
living in this house. And he was like, you want
to move in with us? So I said, yeah, let's
do it. I move in with him. I never drank
natty light, I mean fireball chewing. I mean I went
up in there and my whole, my whole attitude changed

(06:41):
on life, Like I realized I was stuck in a box. Man,
my whole life, I've been stuck in the box, and
I never experienced anything fun. And then when I got
the Central and I lived with Corey and them, they
took me snowboarding, they took me to the beach, They
took me.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
They pretty much showed me what I was missing out
my whole entire life. And I love hanging with them.
Like it was.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
I remember like some for like the fraternity dudes would
come like, man, why are you always messing with white boys?
Like why you always hang with those white boys? And
I'd be mad, like them my dogs, like you know
what I'm saying, in my roommates, them my boys, Like
any day you want to test them, you're gonna have
to chop it up with me, because they showed me love.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
And I never seen that before.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
You know, like I said, I come from the hood,
so like we've been always tall. You gotta be careful,
you gotta do this, be careful around them. And but
when I got there, it was like they didn't even
see it that way. They were just like, bro, we brothers,
you know what I'm saying. And I love that about
them because I was different. You know, they had to
relate to me because I was totally different, and I
was saying things I've never seen before.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
That made me just be like, damn, why they doing this?

Speaker 5 (07:47):
You know what I'm saying, not understanding it, but being
there made me understand life is bigger than where we
all come from, right because everybody gotta value differences because
we don't know how that person grew up. And uh,
they opened my eyes to a lot of stuff, man,
and I was thankful. And then that goes to your
question on why hang like hanging with y'all because y'all

(08:09):
give me those vibes like it's the same. It's like,
I don't care where d he come from. I don't
care who he is. He cool with us, he acts
like us. I fuck with him, and that's what I'm
used to. So anytime I can relate to that, I
kind of I guess I cling onto it, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (08:27):
That makes sense right there? So that's real.

Speaker 7 (08:29):
Wait, I remember back in the day, I don't know
it was a couple of years ago. You talked about
how when you first got there, those boys took you
out like shopping and got your like new clothes.

Speaker 8 (08:37):
You gotta you gotta least.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
Yes, like I told half of it when I told
her I wanted to get white chicks. And he really
was like, dressed like that. That's how he told me,
Like you look like an La like Hood movie. You
know I was wearing at this time, I was wearing
Jaebol's size forty two. I was wearing fire ix t

(09:01):
like the te came down to my knees, ankles, like
I'm talking about double.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
I'm wearing boxers, basketball shorts.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Jeans, anything. I'm ready for anything. You know, I'm ready
for anything. So he was like, dude, you're not gonna
get no white girls out here like that. I'm like,
I'm pimping you know what I'm saying. He's like, no,
trust me you. We gotta take you to Armored Cambrie fit.
Is that how you say.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Abercmbrish, Yes, it is exactly I said.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
So he takes me there. I walk in there. I'm like,
ain't nothing in here gonna fit me? Like that's what
I was thinking, because you know, you you walk in,
you know, the first thing you see the white boy
with his shirt off.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
He got the jeans on no belt.

Speaker 7 (09:48):
That was back when Abercombie, like the marketing for it
was literally just shirtless, ripped gans.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
Smelt was crazy.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
That's when I went in there and I'm like, dude,
for real, like for real. And then he was like,
don't worry, you know what I'm saying, tar these on.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
I come out like and they kind of tight. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
Everything was tight, Everything was tight. But he gonna put
these in, put these shoes.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
On with them. I'm like, oh, ship come together now.

Speaker 8 (10:23):
The boy look at all right.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
He was like, try these rainbows.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
I'm like, man, nigga, nigga, don't wear open toe to
uh sandals, you know what I'm saying. I just never
done that before. I never wore sandals without socks, you
know what I'm saying. So like when they shot me those,
I tried to slide them on with the socks. I'm like,
I'm like, yo, the sock the things they won't go through,

(10:48):
so they like, you gotta take your socks off. I
ain't gonna carry it. Took me a while to really
buy into the no socks, but when I did, we
had went to a day party first Darty. It was
like that I was a new student and I already
had been here. Everybody is like, hey, who are you.

(11:08):
I'm like, I'm like, I'm number three.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Wait, you're number three? Oh my god? You know after that,
I'm swimming, I'm blowing them back. I'm going back. I'm
I'm going to uh navy blue.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
I'm going to all the spots like, oh yeah, it's
time to wear a little tighter d.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Here killing old.

Speaker 8 (11:41):
That's so body.

Speaker 9 (11:42):
It literally feels like like it'd be like a movie,
like the reverse, Like like I don't know what it be,
but it's like just two white dudes taking this dude
from fucking like La Central and they're like we're on
deck them out and then all of a sudden, you
just take over the town.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Take over.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
I mean, I'm wearing I go back home. Cats like, well,
what the fuck are you wearing? Like my homies like,
what are you wearing?

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Bro?

Speaker 5 (12:03):
I'm like, oh bro, yeah, I'm like, Yo, this is it.
I'm telling like, hey, this is it. This is how
you bust down. I'm like, We're gonna go to Ontario Mills.
Watch how many white bitches I bust they like should
wear to God? Can I cut yeah. Yeah, So I'm like,
let's do it. We go to the meals. I'm I'm like,
hey there, I'm just walking up.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
They like you tripping. I'm locking up the white girls.
How you doing? They're like, yeah, are you like this? Yeah?
You know I got these in Missouri.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
They don't have them out here yet, like right, killing them,
busting to my homies.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
They start switching. They let's start switching. They shot me
a v ads go. I'm like, oh yeah, yeah that was.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Gone remotely gentrifying his old neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
They all dressed like me.

Speaker 8 (12:45):
Now that's so.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Go sides down, yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
Go sides down always like if you if you, if
you get too much goal sides down, I say, and
find a stretchy ones. They bust so once I got
put on, it was overweight. They couldn't tell me nothing
at the school, dude, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Like would you change your journey at all?

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Nah? Nah?

Speaker 3 (13:07):
And inn't that crazy because I'm sure in those first
two years, like if you're when you're in juco or
when you're leaving high school knowing you can't go to
big schools, probably like man, I wish I could do
this differently.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Then you get forward. It's like, no, that was the
best thing that could happen.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, I feel like it was the best thing that
could have happened to me.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
But honestly, if I was to say, like that route
I took, no, I would not want to take that route.
You know what I'm saying. Like it was hard. It
was hard, but it was hard because of me, you
know what I'm saying. Like people sit here and be
blaming other people all the time for like situational stuff,
but it was really me. I could have chose not
to hang with the hommies. I could have went to
school every day, you know what I'm saying. I could

(13:41):
have done those things, but I didn't want to at
that time.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
So was it the right thing for me? Maybe? You
know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (13:48):
Because going to Central opened up my eyes because Willie Fritz,
that was my head coach at the time, he uh
he coaching at Houston right now, he was on me,
on me.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
At first.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
I didn't like Willie, like I didn't understand him. You know,
I didn't know what he wanted from me. As I
thought he just hated me because I was from California.
Because the first thing he told me and I'm sure
you probably tell everybody this now because I made it.
I come in. He goes one thing. I gotta tell you.

(14:21):
I go what he goes, I hate people from California.
I was tooking back. Yeah, I was tooking back. I said,
oh okay. He said, you want to know why. I
said sure.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
He says, three weeks for three reasons, y'all smoked dope,
y'all rape bitches, and y'all game bangers. He didn't say bitches,
he said, he said yeah. He said everything he said,
y'all rapist pretty much. He was like, y'all rapist. I'm like,
I'm not two of those things. Here's where you got

(14:56):
it all wrong, where you got it all wrong. But
you know he told me that. He said, prove me wrong,
show me who you really are. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
I walked out of that room like, fuck this, dude.
I ain't even gonna lie. I said, man, fuck Willie Fritz.
I got on the phone and I called my juco coach.
I said, I made a mistake. I want to leave.
He said, d you can't leave like you you there,
you signed the paper. If you leave, you're gona have
to sit out a year.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
I'm like, God, oh fuck it.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
I'm like, okay, whatever i'ma I'm gonna take I'm gonna
bite this bullet. And then it was every day Willy
just picked on me, picked on and picked on picked
on me. But it like now a as the as
the picture clears, he was just trying to make me
a man, right, Like I was a big ass kid
coming into a place where they teach you how to
become a man.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
But I was fighting that right.

Speaker 10 (15:47):
At what point do you think you realized what he was, like,
how hard he was on you, was for the right reason,
or did you leave Central Missouri still being like fuck
that dude?

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I left Central Missouri like fuck that.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yeah, I was like fuck Willie Fritz, Like I don't
want nothing to do with Willie, but I think I
will say year three in the NFL. Everything he was
teaching me was coming to life, right, So I was like, God,
damn will He told me about this will. He told
me about this will. He said this was gonna happen.

(16:21):
You know. It was just like life lessons was flashing
through my eye and he cared about me.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
I growing up where I grew up.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
I didn't know that's how another man would care for
another man, you know, because I never seen it like
that before.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Like he was hard on me, but he pushed me.
Yeah yeah, but he pushed me.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
Like like I didn't get it what he was doing.
Like I ran every day on Wednesday, me and him.
He'll come get me at five thirty in the morning
and we would run and he would run with me, though,
but beat me, like just beat me, just bad. And
I'm like, he was like, until you can beat me,
We're gonna do this all day. I'm like, oh, damn me.

(17:00):
So I did it until my senior year and then
finally my senior year. I don't know, he just I
guess I kind of woke up. I stopped being as
crazy in my senior year, and he kind of let
me alone. But when we lose a game, he'll be
like you. He'll come up on the board, he'll be like,
y'all know what we lost? And then he'll call Somebody'll
be like, hey, Greg, why did we lose this game?
And then he'll be like, oh, man, we had too

(17:20):
many turnovers. She'd be like, Nope, that's not it. He'd
be like, yeah, why would we lose this game. You'd
be like, oh, man, we didn't tackle well in the rezon. Nope,
that's not it. He'd be like, I'm gonna tell y'all all,
we lost this game because the Laney did not play well.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
That's crazy, Like damn much.

Speaker 7 (17:39):
Were you like head of those shoulders, the best guy
on your team?

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, I had crazy.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
It was.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Crazy, was crazy.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
I was going ham but you know he knew it
so hard to sit in there and hear that over
and over.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Bro, I would sit there.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
I mean we only we only lost two games my
we lost one. We lost one game my first year,
and then we lost two games my second year.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
And uh yeah. It used to be tough.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
But I'll be sitting in the meeting, bro, like I
wouldn't even be zoned out.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
I'll just be zoned out.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
Like because my receiver coach during h we used to
tell me like, don't let it get to you, because
if you let it get to you, he won. Yeah,
And I'm like, I don't know what that means, Like
he getting to me.

Speaker 10 (18:30):
Like perfect like coach in your position room to like
kind of combat with the head coach is saying, but
also being like listen to him, but don't let it.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And he would do that all
the time. A third coach H hell of a coach man.
He used to him and his wife and his kids.
They would bring me to dinner every week because he
would be like, man, I know you can be.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
A good kid.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
I see it, like you're a hell of a player,
but that needs to carry over off the field.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
So they would just we would have dinner.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
I would sit with his family, talk to his wife she,
you know, have conversations with them. Just they'd be like,
how you feeling what's going on? Like yeah, just like
and I knew coach wasn't gonna tell the head coach
because I didn't told him stuff and he ain't never
went back, So I kind of had trust in this man.
And and UH and him and Willie you know what

(19:29):
I mean. They he hired Darren h just to coach me.
He literally told me, like I hired this guy so
he could coach you.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
And I'm like, what where is that coach H from? Uh?

Speaker 5 (19:41):
He had just came from Arizona State, so and he
knew about me because I had took a trip up
the Arizona State So.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
There H knew about me. So that's why he came
out there.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Another great story from yeah yeah, oh yeah, that was.

Speaker 7 (19:58):
In your journey, Like from you Co into Central, did
you know you were always going league bound or was
there like a moment when you like you get in trouble,
you go Juco and you're like maybe this dream is
no longer attainable and you're just kind of just trying
to live out the last few years of a football career.
Like at what point were you like, oh, shit, like
I'm gonna go to the NFL and like this is

(20:18):
gonna be a career for me.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
That's a good question.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
I'm gonna be honest with you, because like every time
I got in trouble, I'm like, damn, I'm probably not
gonna go to the league because this is gonna carry
this baggage is gonna carry with me. And then I'll
go to Juco and I'm like, I'm not thinking about
the league, but then I'll ball out and then coaches
be like, bruh, you can go to the league, Like
and then I hear that again, like yah, yeah, I'm

(20:42):
the shit again, you know what I'm saying, Like it
was like hearing it and then I didn't get the
grades to go to the USC, which I was supposed
to go to, but I didn't get the grades. Inane, yeah,
because it was me and Mike Williams. That's who they want.
They was like Mike Williams and you on the other side.
I'm like, hell yeah, like I was in. But that
didn't motivate me. See that should have motivated me to

(21:03):
get the grades. But see I was still running these
streets thinking I was somebody I wasn't. So then I
go to Central Now at D two, I'm like, I'm
not going to the league, Like this is a rap,
Like you know what I'm saying. I remember my mom
sayd just go get get a degree and make something
to yourself, because you know D two right, Like.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, all right, well I'm gonna do that.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
I just wanted to get away from the city too.
So I go up there. My first year there, I
go nuts. Though, I go nuts. I don't even know
where this came from, you know what I'm saying. I'm
just I'm out there playing on just just athletic ability, right,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
I wasn't. I was out of shape. Like I did
the conditioning test.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
I didn't even pass it the first year I got there,
I ran it every day and they just was like, dude,
fuck that you like you done. I didn't pass it
the first year. I couldn't The first year, I couldn't
pass it. I couldn't even lift two hundred pounds for real.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, I couldn't even lift two hundred pounds. I know,
it doesn't even make sense. I couldn't lift two hundred pounds.

Speaker 8 (22:11):
We get we'll get to that.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
So they get there and they tested me. I can't
even lift two hundred pounds. They're like, what the but
you got remember at Juco, I didn't do nothing. If people,
if people know me that went to Mount Sack, they
tell you Delaney was a star. He barely came in
the weight room, he barely did condition I would show
up to practice and practice and that was it, and
I leave when they had workouts. I went home, jumped

(22:36):
in the web, went home. They never told me nothing,
so I believe that's how it was. And then I
got the central and they smacked me in the face
like here, come on, conditioning test, get.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
In the weight room.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
I couldn't even lift two hundred pounds. They like, and
we brought all the players and.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
We brought this dude in here to start. Yeah, but
guess what they put me on the field.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
I ain't need none of that stiff arming running cats
over like fucking weight room.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
I'm screaming at who who works out?

Speaker 5 (23:10):
Nobody, you know, I'm screaming it.

Speaker 10 (23:15):
I want to think about how, like what a cheat
code it was once. Still they did work out and
condition and everything.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
That's what I'm saying. I want to see.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
I wish you could find your like college highlights and
stuff and just sit there just because I can imagine
the people you're going against in Missouri, and it's like
this just isn't even fair.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
Yeah, they some people will say, like, man I played
against it. I see comments like man I played against
that ship wasn't even fair. He was like a man
of much giants, And it wasn't Because my senior year,
once I started working out and running and lifting weights.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
For guys, at least take you down.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
They know I'm breaking all those tell you I'm stiff
arming cats, I'm jumping over cast in the weight room. Yeah,
I start getting in that weight room now. If you
go to Central, I hold all the records for the
wide receivers because I I didn't. That first year, I
ain't even care.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
I was beat every game.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
I'm like, god, damn, I can't walk, you know what
I'm saying. It was just like maybe I need to
start working out, you know. And then I remember the
off season, I didn't go home because I didn't have
no money. My mom didn't have money to fly me home.
So they got me a job at this car at
this dealership. But my job was just to drive brand
new cars every week, right, so like just so I
can have money. So like the dude didn't come in.

(24:27):
He also gave me a house to stay in. Like, yeah,
the guy was hell of cool. He was I guess
he was like a booster for the I wish I
knew his name to give him a shot out.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
I'm sorry I don't, but he's.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
Probably listening to So yeah, I'm sure his daughter because
his daughter. So his daughter lived in that house and
he brought her a new house, so they had moved
out and let us move in there. And I, you know,
I met his daughter and stuff, and he would just
be like, hey, come pick up a car and I'll
drive it. And when I dropped it out, he's like,
you think of college shooting by this car. I'm like,

(24:59):
oh yeah, yeah, most definitely, you know this.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
I loved it. He'd be like, all right, now it's
a minivan, go check that out.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
So I'll draw different cars on off season. But I
was working my tail off because I was there. So
they like, since you hear, you need to come up
here every day. So I'll go up there every day
watching film. It just be me and the coaches. I'll
work out with them. They'll all run with me, like
cause they knew the motivation, like we can make this
guy the player we know he could be.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Oh man, he'll be unstoppable.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
So that my senior year, I gave all the credit
to those coaches, and I'll tell y'all to this day
like I still do because they they pushed me. They
motivated me to get in the weight room, to condition,
to study defenses. Man, am I'm telling y'all, when I
first started playing, I didn't even watch film.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
I ain't do none of that.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
I just went out there, like, man, they can only
do all they can only do four coverages, cover two
cloud two man like man, are three right?

Speaker 4 (25:55):
And they can't cover me?

Speaker 2 (25:56):
And they can't cover me.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
You know what? I mean, so I looked at it
as I just knew the game, but once I studied it,
oh man, it was scouts start coming. I start seeing
it because they used to be like, you put it into work,
you're gonna start seeing the rewards, right, And I start
seeing the rewards, they'd be like, Yo, look Arizona, Arizona here,
the forty nine ers here.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
I'll be like, for real, So, was there ever?

Speaker 10 (26:19):
Okay, so you're talking about NFL after Central Missouri, Like
obviously you think like you ended with a good season.
What was the process like going into the NFL? Like
combine draft process like all of that? Were you just
like did anyone guide you in that direction? Or you're

(26:39):
just kind of like, shit, I don't know how this
is gonna work, but I hope it does.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
No.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
So, like by the second game of the season, I
had came out in the ESPN magazine as.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
A sleeper, and the whole school passed out magazine. It
was crazy.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
I walked around Magazine two at that time was.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
The magazine, and I'm in there like I got my
own kind of page, like.

Speaker 8 (27:02):
A sleeper wearing rainbows.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
I'm like, yo, people like yo, this shoe, they like
this shoe. I'm like, I didn't even know it was out.
I'm like, oh, hell, yeah, where you get this from?
They like, oh, they handed them out for free. I'm
like they like, can you sign it? So I sign it?
And I remember going to class and one of my
professors go, why.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Are you here? I go, we got class. She's like, no,
you're about to be rich. I said what. She's like, yeah,
the ESPN magazine. Everyone's handing them out. I'm like, oh yeah,
I mean yeah, I get me any money yet. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
I'm like I'm like, it's just a magazine. You know,
we still got two more games.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Did you keep a copy of it? My mom? Yeah,
my mom got a copy of it, and yeah it is.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
I like to be a moment too, from like from
how you've grown up, Like every moment where you've gotten
a little bit of notoriety, you kind of like revert
back to how you were and then like you're sitting
and you just like why are you here?

Speaker 8 (28:01):
And you're maybe for.

Speaker 7 (28:02):
Like the first time, you're like no, like this is
the beginning, Like I'm here because of this.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Yeah, that's how I kind of felt, because, like you said,
every time I got.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
A little bit of notoriety.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
I almost reverted back to being an asshole, you know
what I mean. So at this point I looked at
it as an accomplishment, but I'm like.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Nothing happened.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
These are just words and pictures, right, Like everybody took
it and ran with it, but I didn't. And then
when agents start calling me, it kind of almost start
going off. I'm like, man, who the hell calling me
from Houston? Like just crazy number. I answered, Hey, I'm
an agent that man. You seen you came out ESPN magazine.
What's your plans?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I'm like, oh, I need to talk to my coach first.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
They're like, oh, if you tell your coach, you know
he gonna tell you don't talk to me because we
still had two games left.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
So I'm like, okay, I ain't gonna tell my coach.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
Lying I go tell Willa, yeah, because I just don't
want to get in trouble because I heard people getting
in trouble. Reggie Bush had took some money and all
of that craziness. So I was like, hey, Willy, I'm
having agents call me. He like, don't you talk to
no agents. I'm like, I'm not. That's why I'm telling
you sir, like out of respect, He's like, when you
need an agent, I'm gonna have an agent for you.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
I said, okay. Cool. I kind of took it as
that and was like cool. So the season over, the.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
D two Bowl come out where all the top D
two players playing in this bowl. And at this point,
I'm talking to agents now because I'm like, shit, I
need to figure out what's going on. Because Willie wanted
me to talk to his guy, but I wanted to
hear from other guys. Right, So I called about three
agents and they said, do not playing that D two Bowl.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
They said, you're better than that.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
You're gonna get accepted into the D one Bowl, All
Star Ball whatever.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
I'm like, you sure.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
They like your name is buzzing to not playing that bowl. So,
long story shortcomes I get invited to the ball, they
bring me up, they do the whole Dwayne Walker All
Star Bull D two Bowl, and then I get up like, hey,
I just want to thank everybody.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
I couldn't do this without the old line quarterbacks, right.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
My other receivers like, I'm thankful, but I will not
be playing in a D two Bowl, and Willie went nuh.
He was like, we need to talk after this. So
we're going heat showing me out. You ain't not gonna
represent the school in D two. Boy, I said, I'm
gonna get in the I'm gonna be in the D
one Bowl. He like, no, how you know you ain't.
They ain't handling them out yet. I'm like, I know

(30:29):
for a fact I'm getting in one. He like, you
been talking to an agent. I'm like, I have been
talking to a few agents that told me that my
name is buzzing. He like, they just saying that they
want you to sign with him. They all just saying that.
Don't believe them. You're not gonna make it to a
D one Bowl. So when he said that, I was
kind of like, what, you don't think I'm that good?

Speaker 2 (30:47):
And like I'm just don't want you to be highs.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
And then the lows come and I'm like, Okay, I'm
gonna think about it, but I'm not. Don't sign the paperwork,
don't do nothing yet. So then my agent that I
signed with, Vincent Taylor. I remember talking to him the
most because he would just be like, look, you talented,
It's up to you. He will always tell me it's
up to you. You do what you want. I only
get paid when you get paid. Everybody else was trying

(31:10):
to tell me this money shit, but he was the
only honest one. So I said, can you come to Central,
Can you come to Missouri and meet me? Can we
meet in person? He said, I'm on I'm on the plane.
So he came over. We met in person and he
was talking about the D one Bow and he I'll say, look,
I have other agents told me I shouldn't play in
the D two Bowl because if I get hurt, I
won't be able to play in the D one Bow.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
He said, that is true.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
He said, I've been hearing noise about you getting into
this D one Bowl, but it ain't They ain't pulled
the list yet. I said, so, do you think I
should play in the D two Bowl? He's like, nah,
I don't think you should. I think you're gonna be
in this D one Bowl. So I'm like, okay, I'm
gonna run with that. I said, can you meet Willie Fritz?
He said, oh, yeah, I definitely meet WILLI so him
and Melly with him and Willy talked. He telled Willie

(31:56):
to leave. He pulled me in. He said, I don't
like that guy. I go why. He's like, he's only
about money. Look at him.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
He's flashy. He got a purple suit on him. I'm like, yeah,
I kind of like that suit.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I kind of like that. I think
he looked clean. He's like, no, you need to meet
my guy. Don't sign with him until you meet my guy,
said Coach, just because you put me in this position,
I'm gonna meet your guy, I won't sign with him.
So I go out and go, Vince, stay here. I'm
gonna meet with his guy tomorrow. I'm gonna make my decision.
So we go to the steakhouse. Will he pay for

(32:31):
all this stuff? His guy comes, Man, his guy comes
with Daisy Duke shorts on flip flops.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Yeah, the lady on a Saturday.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah yeah. I see him coming out. I'm like that
bet n not be him. This dude comes up to me.
He comes up. I'm like, you the agent. He's like, yeah,
I'm the agent.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
I work with Rod Green and all these other people
that Rod went to the NFL too.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
And I was like, oh okay.

Speaker 5 (33:01):
He's like, look, man, you're not gonna get in that
D one Bowl, so you should play in that D
two Bowl. I'm telling you right now that I really
told me you had buzz. There's no buzz going on
about you playing in the D one Bowl. I said,
all right, that's all right, we're done. I said, hey,
we're done, Thanks for coming out.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
I'll leave. He calls with, what you disrespect my friend?
Like that?

Speaker 5 (33:22):
I'm like, will he told me I wasn't gonna go
to D one Bowl. He said, I wasn't gonna get drafted. Like,
if you don't, if he don't believe in me, I
don't believe in.

Speaker 10 (33:29):
Him, why would he talk to you if he doesn't
think you're gonna go any like?

Speaker 5 (33:33):
That's what I said that he told me I wasn't
gonna get drafted. He said, I'm probably gonna fall as
a free agent, and I wasn't, And there's no buzz
about me going to the D one Bow. So I said, okay,
thank you. I said thank you. That's all I needed
to hear. He was the only agent that kind of
came o. I'm nervous to hear how this ends.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, yeah, So then I really get at me.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
Boom boom boom. I go, I go to Vincent's hotel.
I'm like, we're the paperwork. I'm about to sign with
you today, like I'm done with this ship. He's like,
what happened. I'm like, it don't even matter. You know
what I'm saying, It don't matter. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
So I signed with him. He leaves. I tell Coach
H first, I go with Coach H. I signed with Vincent.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
He goes, I like Vincent because I even had Coach
H meet him and he was like, I like Vincent.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Vincent was a good guy. So then he goes, you
need to tell Willie though, I go, man, I'm scared
to tell.

Speaker 8 (34:24):
Yeah, freaking out.

Speaker 5 (34:25):
I was scared, just like the phone like he was like,
don't call him, go to his office.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
I'm like, god, I'm scared.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
Yeah, I was shook. I was shoot because after what
I did to his friend too.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
I'm fucking shook. So I'm like, long story show.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
I'm like, all right, I'm doing it. I don't care, man,
it is, I'm a singer.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
I'm done. Like, I go up in there, he waiting,
come on.

Speaker 8 (34:56):
You wearing the purple there, look the boy with Sweatnson
like this.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
I come through the door. He's like, god, I'm sweating.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
Go in confident as soon as he does that, I'm like, damn,
he just he rips me a new one, like how
disrespectful am I to do?

Speaker 2 (35:13):
His friend like that.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
I brought you here, I'll put you in this situation,
and now you're about to sign with this guy. I'm
telling you right now, this dude is gonna end. He's
gonna mess up your career. I'm like, yes, sir, I
hear you, like I always respect never I'm like, yes, sir, yes, sir,
You're right. That's something I'm gonna have to deal with
if it happens. Like okay, well I'm telling you. He's like,
you better not leave school. You better finish. I'm like, yeah, yeah,

(35:38):
I'm gonna finish. So after that conversation, I go back
to the house and I'm telling all my roommates like, man,
he just like I need to finish this and that.
But Vince was already telling me he about to fly
me to Houston and start training. So I was like,
I don't even know how to say this, and they
was like you should just go to Houston. Like all
my roommates like, fuck, don't even tell Willie, like lead

(36:01):
so if you see this.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
So then Vince was like.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
With how you feel you want to finish school or
you want to go train, because like I feel like
you need to train. You about to play against D
one players, and I'm like, I'd rather go train. So
then I moved to Houston and uh start training at
Pleux for eight months and yeah, yeah, I was living
in Houston, not going to school. I was just training
and uh they sent my mom a bill Central Missouri

(36:30):
State then, but they took it back though after after
my agent and they lawyers got they took that ship back.
But they sent my mom a bill. My mom got
a bill for like three hundred some thousand. Like, what
is this? Holy shit, I'm like, what you mean. She's like,
Central Missouri just sent me a bill for three hundred thousand.
I said, I went to school for free. She said,

(36:51):
I know what is this bill. I'm like, hold on,
send it to me. I got my agent Vincent on it.
He's like, oh, hell no, that's not about to happen.
And uh, they they pulled it back, said it was
a mistake. They made a mistake. That wasn't supposed to
being sent out to them. It was supposed to be
picked up by the administration. They was gonna pay for
but somehow that got sent to my mom, and uh,

(37:12):
that pissed me off.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
I'm not even gonna lie. That pissed me off.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
And uh, for the first few years, I ain't say
even since I wouldn't say Central even on Monday night games,
I wouldn't even be like, oh, Central Missouri State Mules
like I would never I was just like put on
the high school, you know, because that's that I feel
like they did me wrong. But again, you know, like
I did them wrong, like it was vice versas, Like
he told me to stay in school and I did

(37:35):
it right.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
You know.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
I needed to train though, like I was training with
all D one players once I went to Plex. I
was around all these top athletes and almost keeping up
with them. So I'm like getting confident, like, oh this
ain't this, ain't this, ain't nothing. I'm about to I'm
about to shine, you know what I mean. So then
I play in that D one Bowl game. Guess who
the head coach, Jim Horball. Yeah so man, so Jim

(38:01):
Harball the head coach.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
He loves me. He like you do everything. I was
doing everything.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
With him, and he was just like, dude, you you
should get drafted, Like he would tell me that, like,
you can play multiple positions. They had me at running back,
tight end, receiver, all that, and uh so then I
go to the Combine. I got invited to the Combine
after that Bowl because I put on a play.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
They was like, who the hell was.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
Just Dlayney Walker coming out of nowhere making catches, making plays.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
I get invited to the Combine.

Speaker 7 (38:32):
What's the feeling like when you finally get that invite
and you're like, all the ship you've gone through, whether
it's self inflicted or like battling with coaches, and just
like the university, what's that feeling where you're just like, like.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
I have an opportunity to go to the show.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
No, it was like better than sex, you know what
I'm saying that, Yeah, it was like because you know
that that feeling that sex is.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
The best feeling in the world.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
But this this feeling that I got knowing that because
my Vince would say, you put into work, it's gonna
all come to you.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Because when he I'll be like.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
Man, I don't want to go to Houston and train,
Like trust me, you put in the work, it's gonna come.
And I remember when he hit me like, there you
going to the com I look, I'm getting goose bump
on my legs already, Like I'm like what, he like,
you made it?

Speaker 2 (39:22):
I like, I'm tearing up, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
I'm on the phone tearing up, like I can't believe it, man,
I can't believe it was right.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
He's like, no, it was all you. It wasn't me.
I ain't do nothing. You did that.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
And I just just chill like I'm like, God, damn,
I fucking made it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
I'm crying. I'm telling myself like I made it. And
then I called my mom like Mom, I'm going to
the comba, I'm be on TV. She's like, what you go?
You made it.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
I'm like, I made it. I'm gonna I'm gonna. This
is my opportunity. I'm gonna take advantage. I'm getting drafted.
And I just kept saying it like I'm getting drafted.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
This is they put me in. Yeah, they put me in.
They made a mistake.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Now I gotta show up and uh, the journey just
you know, the journey taught. It came, you know it came,
and I've rolled that thing. Boy, I rolled that that
mustang like, I ain't letting go. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (40:16):
When you went to the combins a receiver at this time? Yes,
and so what point did you transition receiver to tight end?
Was that a couple years into the league or was
that right when you went to forty nine ers?

Speaker 2 (40:27):
You know what, I'm glad you said that.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
So, like when I got to the combine, we had
a trainer named Danny Arnold. Danny Arnold at the time
was one of the best trainers in football. He goes,
you may be a receiver, but I think you may
play tight end.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
How big are you at this time two twenty so
like six?

Speaker 5 (40:49):
And he goes, I think they may put you at
tight end. I go, man, why you think that? He like,
I just hear it's a lot of noise about you
playing tight end. So he was putting me through the
ringer of like working out. By the time I get
to the combine, I'm two thirty five.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Pounds.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah I'm in there.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
Because he was like, you could either be a David Boston.
Are you going to be a tight end? That's what
he used to call me all the time, David Boston.
You David Boston used to say that, David Boston.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
I'm like, I don't take stare with David Boston. Yea,
I don't do that. But uh so he was saying that.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
And then I get drafted as a receiver with the
forty nine ers because it was all through. They told
me it was all because of my forty times. My
forty time was good, so they drafted me. It was
at forty time, full four to seven or full forty
nine type shit.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Yet Rick mitch.

Speaker 5 (41:43):
So and then I get to the forty nine Ers.
We two three weeks and I'm playing receiver. I'm wearing
number seventeen.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
We had Mike.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
Martz as an offensive coordinator, and I was with Mike
Nolan as.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
A head seventeen. Yeah, I was wearing seventeen, seventeen to
forty six.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
Yeah, yeah, so seventeen right, and then I call in
the locker room, I come in.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Oh so I go home. We come in the next day.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
I used to get there early because they wanted me
to do a workout and stuff early, you know, rookies.
Got I get there and I'm like, damn, they move
my jersey, they move my locker because I see forty six,
and I'm.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Like, damn.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
They move my locker and they're like, no, no, no,
you you forty six. You need to get your playbook
and go see Mike Bartz. I'm like, for what, I'm
getting cut. They're like, no, no, you're not getting cut.
Go just go talk to them. So I go up there.
He's like, I know you saw the jersey. I was like, yeah,
I don't really like that.

Speaker 7 (42:41):
Numbers go from seventeen forty six.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
That's like, it's like, I'm getting cut.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
I got about one more week.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Yeah, I'm like I'm getting cut, Like that's all.

Speaker 8 (42:54):
I was thinking, You're right, man, I'm sorry, finished school.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
Yeah. So saying there, I'm like Jesus Christ, I said,
I don't really like that number. Like I literally because
I'm thinking he was cool, like Mart's was cool, but
he wasn't cool right now. He's like I don't give
a fuck. I was like, oh damn shit, Oh we're
not cool right now. He's like, no, we're moving you
to tight end the h back. You ever heard of it?
I said, nah, I never heard him. He said, well

(43:19):
you better learn we're gonna cut your ass, all right,
go fuck forty six of this just like that cold.
I'm like, oh, oh, you're not joking, okay, like cause
he was joking. He's joke a lot when I first
got there, but now he's not even said So as
soon as I get in, I get on the phone, Man,
I'm about to get cut. You gotta start looking for
another team. He like, what do you mean? I say,

(43:39):
they just moved me to tight end. He goes, okay,
I can't play tight and he said, d I ain't
never seen you fold for anything.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
You're gonna fold today.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
Over a number, well over a position change. I said, man,
I never played the position.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
I said.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
They got Vernon Davis like, you have seen this guy?
He like six three, two hundred seventy pounds.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Like I can't.

Speaker 5 (44:02):
I can't do what he's doing. He was like, I
never seen you quit on anything. Showed me show them
who the fuck you are. I said, you know what, Vince,
You're right. I'm gonna go out there. I gonna be
the best non blocking tight end I can be, because
that's I.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Didn't know how to block. Right.

Speaker 5 (44:19):
So I get out there, I'm getting cussed out like
a doll bro. I'm missing every playoff step all. Oh yeah,
stepping the wrong way. One game they put me in
a game. I can't even believe it. Right, they put
me in the game that year for my rookie year
as a lead blocker. I go the wrong way. You
hear Frank gord Man, what do you you do? He's

(44:40):
getting the ball because I ran the wrong way. Frank
Gore screaming at me during the play because I'm going
that way. I was supposed to go that way. Because
I ain't know what the hell I had. They threw
me in a game. I don't even think I practiced
this play one time. I'm like, what you didn't want
to You didn't want to ask?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Where do I go? Nah? Nah?

Speaker 4 (45:01):
Jim Harball said, who's got it better than us? Whoever?
Delaney's supposed to be blocking?

Speaker 2 (45:06):
But uh was har about the head coach your rookie year?

Speaker 5 (45:09):
No, No, it was Mike Nolan was the head coach
by rookie year. Mike Marts was the offense coordinated And
I don't know why they threw me in on the
offensive play because I only played special teams really, and
for some reason, they was like I was standing there,
Uh to Pete Pete Pete Hayner was my coach position. Coach,
he go, you win.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
I'm like me, I'm literally like me. He like, get
the hell in there. I'm like, oh running, I'm like,
I hear the play, I'm like, oh ship.

Speaker 8 (45:39):
Let's scary ship. Ever, bro, the whole stadium is just
so loud, and.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
Then it's gonna be it.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
No idea.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
I feel you no idea too. You're like, I don't
want to be that guy.

Speaker 5 (45:50):
I didn't want to be that guy just getting to
play the first time at least no it was Alex Smith.

Speaker 11 (45:57):
And then you have a legend like Frank Gorele just
like yelling at you midplay.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
I'm like, oh ship. Like so I go to the right,
which I was already messed up. I was supposed to
go to the left and motion to the right, but
I went to the right, motion.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
To the left.

Speaker 5 (46:12):
He probably he probably when he saw me on that side,
he probably like, Okay, the clock must be down blindy
over there.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
But once I motioned, I hear him go. I hear
him say something like that. I look back at the ball.
I didn't block nobody neither, because it wasn't nobody to block.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
This might be easier than he thought. He was getting
the ball.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
I kind of ran my hands up. They're like, why
the fuck you is throwing your hands up?

Speaker 7 (46:36):
You ran the road, they pull you pulled me out.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
That the only place the whole time, that whole game.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
You're forty six, you're forty seven.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
I was like, oh, I'm getting cut. I'm gonna get
cut after this game. They but I remember my tight
end coach that you lucky, you a hell of a
special teams player, because they I was telling them to
get rid of you, like.

Speaker 8 (47:01):
Even in your year.

Speaker 7 (47:03):
Do you think that, uh Fritz, like all that bullshit
that you had to like endure through college and him
like frying you in front of the team like almost
set you up for success, Like because like every.

Speaker 8 (47:13):
NFL coach is gonna dog cuss you if you mess up.

Speaker 7 (47:15):
So like in a way, did it ever kind of
be like damn, like maybe like he was a great
coach for me.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
No, he was a great coach for he was on
some NFL shit.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
He normalized me from being like bothered by getting cussed
the fuck out, like because at first I used to
get mad when he cussed me out, but then they
started to just be like, Okay, it's normal, he's just
cussing me out. So then when they got to the
NFL and the coach cussed me out, I just be like,
well he cussing me out, it's a good thing, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
That's what I started.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
Thinking, like, well, he want me here because he cussing
me out. Like if I can't put you in the
game because you don't know what you like, they would
they will always say that, like my first year, we
can't put you in if you don't know what the
hell you doing. And I just spoke back one time like, man,
give me some reps, then you know what I'm saying,
and that he was kind of like.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
You want reps? All right, We're gonna get you fucking reps.
And that's that's how it started.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Who would you say was like your best, your most
influential role model?

Speaker 5 (48:10):
I like coach Wise, p ain't. Oh my god, Painter
turned me into this dog I was not. I was
a receiver. I was a pussy foot receiver. I like,
I would break tackles and steff farm people, but I
would never go stick my head in there. Now I
will worry about getting my toes stepped on, like hurting

(48:30):
my hands. I was like a pretty boy receiver at
the time, and so becoming the tight end, I would
be blocking on my tippy toe. He'd be like, right,
you're scared to get your feet stepped on, Like I'll
step on your feet right now, like stuff like that.
I'm like, what the hell? And he just he would
just make us. He made us dogs like he He

(48:51):
just was like, we're gonna hit.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
I don't care.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
We're hitting every day, so we'll come out hitting just
each other, just because he was like, y'all gonna be tough.
One thing we gonna be is the tough his dudes
on this team. And Pete Hanter was that guy. He
taught me how to play the position. He taught me
how to be good at the position. He just was
a great coach.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
You talked about when you got drafted there and then
they moved you to tight end, Uh, like Vernon Davis
being there, and like, obviously we all know how tight
you were with Vernon, but is there any like vern
stories you can share that, like you're able to share that,
it won't if you're like you said, man, Vernon was
like like that we was that was my dog, Like Honestly,

(49:33):
people thought I was, like, it's homie.

Speaker 12 (49:36):
They didn't think I played for the Titans like your
stories you tell us Vernon.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah so funny.

Speaker 5 (49:40):
Yeah, they thought like I was the homie because like
somebody tried to press Vernon. You know what I'm saying,
I'll run over there and just start.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Fighting him, like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
Because my dog was like like Vernon will be like,
we'll play a game, say we just played at Candlestick,
and he'd be like, bro, you want to go to Vegas.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
I'm like like right now, like y'all got private jet,
let's go.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
Don't bring no clothes. I'm gonna buy him for you.
I'm like, what, like, y'all, I'm gonna get all your
ship the word, let's go, and.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
We'll go to Vegas. Turn up, he get a big
old villa. You know what I'm saying. We packing that
thing out, I mean packing it out and uh clothes.
My dog did a lot.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
You know, my dog would do all types of shit,
but a story, if I could tell a story, man,
we didn't.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
We actually really didn't do that much out there.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
We used to, like Vernon, you know, with his situation.
I never want to mess up what he got going
on with his fiance and stuff. So like all everything
we ever done was epic, you know what I mean?
It was we had fun with epic, like Vernon was.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Ben. Vernon was like, I know, I wasn't his brother.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
I can never take his brother's spot because him and
Vante was like that too, But like at that point
we was like bros.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Like we did everything together. I mean everything.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
He gave you car, right to drive around and oh.

Speaker 5 (51:13):
Yeah, he would let me drive his cars. But we
had a we had a white homeboy named Brandon. He
can probably see this because he follow our content and Brandon, Yeah,
and he gave he gave Brandon a hell Cat Challenger.
Just get hell yeah hell Cat Challenger, Like.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
I wanted it. I wanted that. I wanted that.

Speaker 7 (51:36):
Car like he gave around with Vernon. You're like, damn,
Like I'm so glad, I'm tight end.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
Like yeah, you know, every time we went out to
like food, bottles whatever, he paid for it. So I
was like, damn, thankful, you know what I'm saying. Thankful
that I walked into this room with him. But the
first time I met Vernon, he didn't know how to
deal with me, because y'all know I'm kind of crazy,
you know what I'm saying. So, like, the first time
I meet Vernon, he shakes my hand, but he domned

(52:03):
there break my fucking fingers right, and I'm like, damn, cuz,
don't ever shake my hand like.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
That jokingly with him. He looked at me like what
the hell. I'm like, no, I'll with you, big dog, like,
don't hand But then I was like, yo, for.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
Real, don't do that again, though, bro, Like because he
and he squeezed tho, I'm like.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
He's making sure you don't take a spot.

Speaker 5 (52:25):
Yeah, I'm like, damn, bron, I'm like, don't squeeze my
heat like what I'm like, bro, I'm fucking with you,
but no, but don't ever do that ship again.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
I mean that just kind of goes to show, like
because he's he went to Maryland, but is he from
the East Coast? Yeah, he from DC, but it's just
like you being from LA and yeah, it's like that's
just the melting part of the NFL.

Speaker 5 (52:43):
Okay, I'm gonna get y'all story because I don't even care.
Fucking it is what it is. Okay, So Vernie used
to have.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
This is the one when you went to the gay party.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
Right, No, I have fun at that party. Uh uh No,
I wasn't with So Vernie used to.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Have the Vernon David Weekend in DC. And I mean,
like these these parties blowouts crazy.

Speaker 5 (53:20):
So like Vernie used to have, he would rent out
the whole hotel for all all the athletes, all the
friends and stuff, and and downstairs it will be like
fifty girls waiting in the lobby.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
But whoever. I mean, like.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
I'm gonna say, this happened in like two thousand and eight,
y'all two thousand and nine, so even long ago, a
long time ago. And you know, you take a girl up.
So we all had two rooms capacity sold out.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Yeah, we all got two rooms. Go up.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
You take the one you've been chilling with all through
half the day, knock her down, go downstairs, find that
other one you've been talking to, take them upstairs.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
I mean, I thought, I ain't gonna care. I try.
I almost moved to DC. This was a trade. I'm like, hey, no,
I'm like, Vernon, where should I get a house at?
He like, don't move here.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
I'm like you sure, like, don't do it because Vernon
weekends was the best weekends I've never seen. I've never
been a part of anything like that other than his weekends.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
And I'm talking about every year.

Speaker 5 (54:47):
Every year, cats walking butt ass naked in the hallways.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Not me, I.

Speaker 5 (54:54):
Don't get down like that, but some cats, do you
know I'm talking about you come out, they just walking
butt naked to the to the other room.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
You're like, what the.

Speaker 5 (55:05):
No, Welcome to DC. Chocolate City?

Speaker 4 (55:10):
Is that what they're calling it.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
That's what they call it, Chocolate City?

Speaker 8 (55:13):
Like, we're kind of.

Speaker 7 (55:13):
Like skipping ahead. But I mean, you have you have
such a long career. We have to we obviously have
to get a little Titans sock can. When you got
traded to the Titans, what was your initial thoughts.

Speaker 5 (55:24):
I knew Chris Johnson, so when I got traded to
the Titans, I'm like, so, the only thing I remember
about Titans they came to San Francisco and beat our ass.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Chris Johnson, Yeah, Chris Jawnson went nuts.

Speaker 5 (55:36):
And Randy Moss I don't even know, he had a
field day that game with Collins. Y'all had Collins that quarterback,
So I'm.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
Like'sure friend of the show.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Yeah, I'm like, Okay, the Titans. I'm going to the Titans.
I didn't care.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
I didn't say nothing about the record. And now I'm
like Chris Johnson, that's all. I was like, Like, they
got Chris Johnson, were about to be cold in the motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
But then I got out.

Speaker 8 (56:00):
Here, ken it was.

Speaker 5 (56:04):
It was it was munchack. So I got here and
and I realized it was the organized like it was
a lot going on that a lot of people don't
see because you're outside looking in.

Speaker 7 (56:23):
But it was the facilities going from San Francisco to Nashville.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Night and day.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
I mean, we didn't have a we didn't have a
cold plunge. They didn't have a hot tub.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
What year did you come to the Titans? Twenty thirteen?

Speaker 4 (56:37):
So we were a team not to have a teen years.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
They didn't have none of that. They didn't The facilities were.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
Like locker room, not even.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
A hot and it was they was making the food outside.
We didn't even have a kitchen or they was bringing
it in. Yeah, it was it was wild. I was
eating McDonald's. I was eating McDonald's the first year. I'll
go to get McDonald's every day at lunch big Max
double cheeseburgers with Max sauce, no pickles.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
So like it was, it was. It was. It was bad,
but they were they were growing and and that's.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
Why our records showed the way it showed, because it
was just like, you know, mister Adams, he was you know,
he was older, he was getting old. He was to
that point where you know, he he really didn't do
day to day activities with the football team. I didn't
even I only met him once, you know, when I

(57:35):
first got I only met him once. And this is
what he said when we met him at the game
we lost, I think to the Jaguars.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
He come in, he goes, if.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
We had a quarterback, we would have won that game
with the quack with the quarterbacks sitting right there in
his face. I said, oh ship, I said, this owner crazy.
He and then they they ran him up out of there,
you know what I'm And they got him, took him out,
and then people was like, man, you see now, you
know what I'm like.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
I mean, he was telling the truth. He was telling truth.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
He made me seen now because he's saying stuff he
should be saying right in the player's face.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
But he was telling the truth though, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (58:17):
You know how old people they can't say the truth.
They just say the truth. It don't matter who it hurts.
He just said it, and they was like, that's the owner.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
I said, Okay, that's that's what's up. And you know,
a few years later he passed away. But coming here,
I really didn't have no thought. I just knew that
it was a new opportunity for me to be good.
And then we had Chris Johnson.

Speaker 5 (58:42):
Like in my mind, I'm like, with Chris Johnson, i
ain't got a block long, you know what I'm saying.
So I was kind of thankful to have Chris Johnson
on our team. And obviously, you know it didn't work
out the first few years for us, but you know,
it started to develop.

Speaker 7 (58:57):
I feel like for your personal career, just as like
a fan watching, like there has to be something say,
like it was huge for you because you became a
star in a low market city even though it wasn't
the forty nine ers, and playing with like all those
guys like you, you grew such a like name for
yourself and like to this day, they are lifelong Titans
fans that like are like if we could just have

(59:18):
a Delaney Walker still back playing and that's that says something,
which is I mean it fires me up, like sitting
here interviewing you when like I'm in the stadium in
like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, coming home from like college
on like a random weekend, and I'm like, you know,
I mean, at least we got like a couple of
dogs that sh it's cool, and like sitting here, it's like, damn,

(59:39):
it's crazy.

Speaker 10 (59:39):
So you got here in twenty thirteen, When did Marcus
get here? Twenty fifth, sixteen, fifteen fifteen, right after Taylor
got here.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
Yes, started stacking.

Speaker 5 (59:50):
We started stacking because you got to think about it,
Like Rusting was our GM at first. But Rustling was
so used to having nobody who went to the RAM
Why can't why is his name?

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
He's a coach. He went to the Rams, Jeff Fisher,
Jeff Fisher.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
So they were so used to having, yeah, the Saint
Louis Rams, So they were so used to having Jeff
Fisher and his mindset.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Because Jeff Jeff Fisher was the.

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
He was the mastermind of the Titians being successful. We
all can say that, like good coach, great coach. I'm
sure he was the one saying what players were going
to pick, because he's that kind of coach that's going
to control the narrative, right, But then you get munch
Check Rusting and then Wizn't Hunt Rusting. Like the picks

(01:00:42):
we were bringing in, you know, they were yeah, they
were taking you know what I mean, it wasn't It
didn't look good, you know, for the organization. And then
like we Rustling get fired, they hired y'all know who,
y'all know who? The next gym was Robinson. I don't
know why they slipping my mind right now, So we

(01:01:04):
hired Robinson. Robinson comes in with this resume of like
knowing how to find talent, right, so he has Isn't
Hunt Mike Malarkey Mike right. If you look at those
three years, look at the draft picks we had, it
shows who was really in control of the draft picks

(01:01:27):
at that time because we were stinking it up. We
was bringing cats in and was like, why the hell
who is this dude? Like where did he come from?
And then it went to Marcus Mariota, Dereck Henry, Taylor.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Taylor Lawan.

Speaker 5 (01:01:45):
I mean the list goes on of cats who was
putting in work on the team, and then just we
start getting better, you know what I'm saying. But now
we're having that log again where we're drafting cats.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
They ain't doing nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Jack has the thousand yards stare going as you're as.

Speaker 10 (01:02:01):
I'm talking about, but you're thinking, you're saying right now,
after that j Rob period, started doing that again.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
And start doing that. After the j Rob period, it
started doing that again. Was like, let's get.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Seat fillers instead of opportunists players. You know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
These cats come in and be like, I'm here, I'm good,
just happy to be I'm just.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Happy to be here, you know what I mean. I'm
happy to be here instead of those dogs. You know
what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
Because if you look at Jeff, Jeff was Robinson. Yeah,
people kind of forget that. Yes, yeah, people forget that.
I'm like, that was Robinson. Like everything after Jeff.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Yeah, in comparison he did Jeff and a j A.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
Trade is truly the only thing that ruined him.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
I know. That's what That's what got them fired. One
bad decision.

Speaker 10 (01:03:00):
Going back a little bit like when Marcus got there,
obviously he was what number two pick behind Jamis.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
That first game against the Bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
He went crazy, went crazy.

Speaker 10 (01:03:10):
Were you like, oh shit, like this is the dude
like Marcus.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Is for real?

Speaker 10 (01:03:14):
Yeah, what was your relationship like with Marcus? I mean
obviously you were his only target for a very long.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
Time when Marcus first got there. I love Marcus because
he was the type of player, like he don't say
much right, but he take the blame. He'll go out
there throw for three hundred some yards. We lose, it's
his fault.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
I could have played better.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
I could have played better. I could have played better,
but they didn't tell you. They didn't tell you. This
dude dropped five passes. That dude fumbled the ball, and
it would be like a trickle effect. But it always
came back to Marcus because Marcus is going there like
it's my fault. If I would have threw for four
hundred yards, maybe we would have won.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
It was one pass I should have thought about. I
shouldn't have thrown it, you know, and then he'd take
that blame. So I loved him because he never blamed nobody.
He always was like, I gotta be better, you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
And I looked at it as this is a guy
who's gonna die for you no matter what he can,
and he know it's your fault, but he gonna go
in that room and go.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
That was my fault. It was a bad pass.

Speaker 5 (01:04:21):
If I would have put it on the money, he
probably would have called it. He always did that and
I loved him for that. But he came into an
organization where they are hard on quarterbacks. They're really really
hard on quarterbacks because we had great ones played for
the Titans and the Oilers. So anytime that person, that
quarterback is not playing at that level that they feel

(01:04:43):
he should be playing, it always goes back. That's why
he's still on the stadium. That's why the players that
people compare everyone to, they still on the stadium. But
all the other players not but those two players, right,
and that you're gonna get compared to them every time.
See Derek Henry, he held that stigma. So no one
ever said that, nothing about Derek being as good as George,

(01:05:06):
because he was. But now, oh, we don't we need
an Eddie George, right, you know, we we need a mcnaire.
But now, I mean, cam Ward is doing this, but
he has no help at all.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
So like we we.

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
Put our quarterbacks in a blender because they get beat
the fuck up. Oh y'all have y'all seeing what I'll
see them and Joe Burrow running run for their life,
taking injuries. They shouldn't be taking injuries. Look at the
injuries Joe Burrow has tooken, Look at the injuries Marcus
has tooken, Ryan Tannehill, Will Levis, Will Levis. But we

(01:05:45):
and then they get they all played great, and then
they start getting beat up, beat up, and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
They're like, oh, we gotta get rid of them. They suck.

Speaker 5 (01:05:52):
No, they good, they real good. It's just things around him.
It is not playing to the same level. But I
love Marcus Man. Yeah, I love Marcus. He was a dog.
Ryan Tannehill was a dog. I mean, Jesus Christ. I
played with some good quarterbacks on the time. They may

(01:06:12):
not get that represent the recognition that they deserve, but
do some.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Running back.

Speaker 7 (01:06:20):
Yeah so, and the grand scheme of it all between
forty nine Ers and Titans. Can you pinpoint a singular
game that you're like, this was my favorite NFL game ever?

Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
Yeah, I definitely can. It was the forty nine Ers
versus the Lions. We were four and one, the Lions
with five and oh. They had Mega Tronk and Matt Stafford.
They had they had some dogs over there. I mean
dogs vanderbrush on. Oh my, he used to wear the
red contact lands. That shit used to creep me out

(01:06:53):
all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Yah, who was there? I wound blocked them like four times.
It was home in four field.

Speaker 5 (01:07:01):
Home. It was a in four field. We five and one,
they five and up. I mean they were four to one,
they was five and oh. And it came down to
the far I have ran a slant, they scored a
winning touchdown. And that game I still talk about that
because that game I was playing phenomenal. I mean I
probably had like five special teams tackles. I wham sue

(01:07:23):
like five times, and we broke for big runs and
then it came all down to me to score the touchdown.
And and they never really threw me the ball For
them to trust me on that play, Yeah, it changed everything.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
It changed every day we went on the.

Speaker 5 (01:07:39):
Super Bowl run and I got you know, like I said,
I was a free agent and got paid and that
all that that right there opened the door for me
because they trusted me. They start putting me on more plays,
more things. But then Jim Harball did what he did
at the end of the game, and that was like,
that's my dog, yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
He chased him down.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Then he chased him down.

Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
We always about to rumble all the way into the
locker room, the whole team, we all like squaring up.
Holy's come like that. And and I won that game,
you know what I'm saying. So it's like I always
anytime people talk him like, I mean, I done have
some hell of games with the Titans, but that was
probably the biggest.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
It took that next step, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:08:23):
For me, you know what I mean, And for them
to trust me because like like I said, we had
Vernon Davis, Crabtree, Randy Mausss, Mario Manahan, Frank Gore.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
I mean, they ain't one of those dudes they could
have the ball.

Speaker 13 (01:08:33):
To you again, your relationship with Jim Harball when he
became the coach the forty nine ers, you were already there, correct, Yes,
that first time y'all saw each other after him being
your coach at that d One Bowl, or is it
just like, holy shit, look where we are now?

Speaker 5 (01:08:49):
He was like, I'm he was like when I saw
you was on the roster. I was like, we know,
we got a player, that's all. He said, Like, we
know we got a player. He's like, I'll put this
mother everywhere, and he did. That's how I became the
Swiss Army Knife because he sold these. He seems like
we got a plan for you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
I said, oh yeah, I'm about to play more.

Speaker 11 (01:09:12):
What was it like when he like, because y'all obviously
weren't winning, so you had to make a coaching change,
like when he came in, Like how instant did like
the mood in the locker room shift, like just in
the organization because I mean, y'all won like instantly when
he got there.

Speaker 5 (01:09:25):
Well, so when Jim Harbo got there and the way
he made us work, people was mad because he came
on right after that lockout year. So we come back
in and we going to work. Cats was, yeah, we
gotta get this dude. I don't know about this dude.
I don't know about this dude. Like Cats, that was
the the ring around the locker So it got back

(01:09:45):
to him somehow.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:09:46):
You know, you always got a snitch in the locker room.
That's just part of the game. That's anywhere you go.
It gets back to him. He goes, we bring up practice.
I mean, we just busted our ass at practice to
this was a long, crazy practice. And he goes, we
have snakes on this team. Were like, what the hell

(01:10:07):
he just bringing up? Like we got snakes on this team.
He's like, you know how you get rid of snakes?
Cut the grass, Burn the grass. Damn, he said, burn
the grass.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
They said. He said about in a few weeks. That
person that made that's next to you right now, he
may not be next to you next week.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
And you'll know who.

Speaker 5 (01:10:30):
And we're like, oh shit. Every week, cut cut, bring
somebody in. Cut, bring somebody in, cut, bring somebody. He like,
you see all the people that got cut, they wasn't
right for this team. But everybody who came here that
we brought in, they gonna put work on for this team.
They may be starting. I don't give how much money

(01:10:51):
you make, who you are, where you get drafted at
the best player gonna play. I'm sitting there like, God, damn,
thank god, God.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
It's my turn.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
There's nothing better than a good leader.

Speaker 5 (01:11:07):
Yeah, I'm like thank God, because I'm busting my ass
and I'm not saying the field he comes in, It's
like I don't care who it is, and I remember
he was like you, but he made me work a lot.
I had to learn everything the quarterbacks learned because I
was the audible shift guy, move guy. And I loved
it though, because he gave me a lot of responsibility.

(01:11:28):
But a lot of dudes will tell you they hate
Jim Harball because he make us work, you know what
I'm saying. Like one time, remember back in the day,
NFL was big on when we had real tour days.
They were big on like taking players on like field trips,
like you go to a water park, movies, theater or
something like that. So one day we're thinking we're about
to get a bone because he's like, man, y'all have

(01:11:48):
a good practice. I'm gonna give y'all bone. I'm gonna
get y'all good bone. Y'all gonna love this bone. Were like, ugh,
a lot of bony going to bony going on, so like, well,
like okay, and then uh, hell of a practice he
calls us up, man, that was one of the great practice. All,
y'all gonna love this bone tomorrow. So we like all excited,
like where we going? Everybody like where are we going, man,

(01:12:10):
I think he gonna take us. He probably gonna take
us to some war reenacting and shit, you know what
I'm saying because that's where it came from. Yeah, I
know that's what he big on too. So we get
there and uh we we had the dress of the day.
He used to put it on the board, like the
dress of the day. We're like, oh, shit, full pads.
We're the bone at. We like we thought it was
gonna be like, no practice. It's say full pads. So

(01:12:32):
everybody talking.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Like full fucking pads. Where the bone at.

Speaker 5 (01:12:36):
They're like, oh, we're probably gonna practice like thirty forty minutes.
I'm like, oh yeah, that's cool. That's even cool. We
get outside, he's like, hey, bring it up because usually
we stretch. So Jim Harball, let you stretch on your
own for fifteen minutes. And then he blowed the whistle
and we start practice. So he we ain't straight. He
just blow us up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
We're like, oh, yeah, he tricked us cause he liked that, Like.

Speaker 5 (01:12:56):
Oh yeah, y'all go change No he go, uh he go,
you wanted I want to tell y'all something? We go, yeah,
he go seattle right now at the water park. They
go Arizona right now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
They did. They had like a softball baseball game.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
And he still be there.

Speaker 5 (01:13:13):
Yeah, he going through all the all our teams in
our comf in our division.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
We go, but you know what the forty nine ers
are gonna do. We're like, what coach? We all excited
when we coach coach, Yeah, what we're gonna go for? Yeah,
he like, we're gonna get these seventy plays. Let's go.

Speaker 8 (01:13:35):
Morale just killed. I don't work anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:13:39):
Coach like that crazy. That may have been the worst
practice we ever, the worst.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
Yeah, did he ever take anywhere ever?

Speaker 5 (01:13:53):
Yeah he did. He took us. He took us somewhere.
So after that, I think I want to say two practices.
After that, he took us to the movies. We watched.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
What was it? It was an army movie.

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
At that time, maybe like Saving Private Ryan. It could be.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
I was gonna say, fury, No, was it thirty nights,
thirty days? What was it?

Speaker 14 (01:14:14):
Thirty zero dark thirty? Yeah, we see zero dark thirty.
Because he was really big into the military. We even
had the president general like military dude come and speak
to us.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Yo, like he was big on that, so like.

Speaker 5 (01:14:30):
We went and watched the Army movie and then that
that message was like, you see how they never gave
up when they backs was against the wall, they kept
fighting because.

Speaker 12 (01:14:41):
We got seventy more plays. After the movie, pet your
pads on, He's like, you see how they never gave up.
He's like, We're gonna beat those guys because I know
we're gonna be down in the first quarter, We're gonna
be down in the second quarter, but who the hell
we're gonna be in the third quarter, and how will
we finish the fourth quarter? I'm like, god da, I'm
talking about like yeah, and if you watch all our games,

(01:15:05):
we we losing in the first half, and then the
second half we come back.

Speaker 5 (01:15:08):
We was the comeback kids. Everybody knew that we come
back and just beat their ass. We just out physical youth.
And he knew that. I guess he felt it. So
he wanted us to see, like when they was down
and they look and they thought you all thought they
was gonna die because it was just too many afees
coming after room every angle, you know what I'm saying.
But they locked and loaded. They got they they they

(01:15:30):
they they got their game plan and they just look,
we're gonna die doing it. We either gonna die killing them.
Are we gonna walk away from this? You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Yeah, we died.

Speaker 5 (01:15:40):
We died, and that's really what they did. They went
out there. It's like, look, let's get it. So we
all had that mard set and we was all on
the pill program you know, talk about that later. Uh,
so we were dogs.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
I think we're getting Yeah, our batteries Runner loaded our audience,
so we got it.

Speaker 7 (01:16:01):
How long have been going?

Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
Our ten? Question our sixteen?

Speaker 8 (01:16:05):
It feels like you've been going for a minute.

Speaker 7 (01:16:07):
Yeah, bro, this has been We really appreciate you coming
on one. And even though we've heard a lot of
these stories over and over, I feel like I heard
a new piece and every one of those stories where
I was like, damn, there's so much more to every
like story that for just for anyone's sake, but man,
it means a lot.

Speaker 8 (01:16:23):
Like you are a guy.

Speaker 7 (01:16:24):
You've all showed so much love to us. So it's
sick that you are the number twentieth episode guest. And uh, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Sure, I'm sure we'll have you back on.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
We've only ever had for pro athlete guests We've only
ever had Titan Era tight ends.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
Tight ends from the Niners.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
True, true, No, you had Grounk, didn't you. Yeah, Georgia,
we had George and you. I thought that had I
saw George. I thought you had Gronk for sure, though happened.
We'll get Vern too. Oh yeah, yeah, no, Vern, definitely Vern.

Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
Verne would love to come on here because he wanted
to get inside of the story.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Like, I gotta get my side of the story. I'm like,
all right, for.

Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
Good deal.

Speaker 7 (01:17:08):
Damn, you're trying to sign us off, Coop, I gotta.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Do this off.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
I brought us in.

Speaker 11 (01:17:14):
Jeffy signed us off.

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
I did that last week, Garrett, sign us off.

Speaker 10 (01:17:19):
Thank you all for listening to another episode of Inside
the Bus, episode twenty with our guy Delaney Walker. Go
show some love, hit the comments, tell us who you
want us to have next. You know, we appreciate you
guys tuning in. Help us blow this thing up until
next time, he pace
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