Golden Tate On Jalen Ramsey & Percy Harvin BEEF, Carson Wentz-Eagles Drama | Bussin’ With The Boys - Bussin' With The Boys

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good afternoon, ladies.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (00:01):
My name is Terry Lawan, and this is another episode
of Bust with the Boys. Before we get started, I
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today is none other than Golden Tate. Spent about four

(00:22):
years with the Seattle Seahawks. Then he goes to Detroit,
gets traded to the Eagles, bounces around a little bit,
ends up in New York. This guy's stories are incredible.
He breaks down him and Jalen Ramsey, that whole debacle
back and forth, Percy Harvin as well. That day before
the Super Bowl they get in a fight. Let's find
out how that unfolds. You will later on this episode,
the boys break down a lot of stuff. We got interns.

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We all those boys come in here. They hang out.
Will and I talk about our low week off, which
is really nice to spend with family. And then also
our Father's Day merch is here. It is awesome. I'm
gonna get on my knees for you boys right now
to show you what this is all about. Perfect, a
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with the Boys starts right now. Big hugs, tiny kisses.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
All right, we're good.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
You like that.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Busting with the boys, Hanging with the fas.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Betting on the game. No woman's gonna tell us what
you cannop be.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
We're here.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Just drinking beer and making nan baby.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
I'm hanging with the Fellers.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Busting with the boys.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Bro, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode uh Bust
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I'm gonna say this real quick. I know nothing about NBA.
I'm just gonna toss this one in the air. You
guys open if you want. I'm going Pacers in six
Pacers and six. Ask me why why. I saw McAfee

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do a cool video when he walked out and he
said he saw the people and he's like a lot
of cool people from New York here, let's get their
ass back to New York. And I thought that was
really cool. Yeah, And for that reason, I'll be going Pacers.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
The Pacers and Knicks, I feel like, is the only
kind of series that I sort of followed because of
social media, because of Ben Stiller, Pat McAfee and all
the boys.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Timothy, Timothy shal Man, Timothy Shalom, Shalo May who By
the way, he's on a generational run right now. I
don't think he can be beat. He might be the
most likable celebrity in the entire world.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah, and it seemed like the Knicks blew a massive
lead to where they were. They were mimicking redoing the
the choke, the iconic choke photo chokedalk with who is
that Reggie Miller? Good pull good little NBA knowledge up
here every now and then that.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Boy just tossed one up, no problem. Yeah, I know nothing.
I know nothing about NBA, but I am going Pacers
and six. Call it beginner's luck.

Speaker 6 (03:56):
To me, it seems like it's the finals of where
would you want to live? Lee East, Indiana or Oklahoma?
Like it's like it's just a bit like once the
game's over, it's like, yeah, else won, Yeah, Like there's
really only one When this is it's everyone.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
The moment moment for glory.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
If you were to pick a place between those two
to live, which on would you pick?

Speaker 6 (04:18):
Oklahoma?

Speaker 4 (04:18):
I think, Oh, I.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Think I'm going Indiana too.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
I think Indiana.

Speaker 6 (04:24):
Yeah. Fuck the cults.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Okay, all right, that just comes down to maybe, yeah,
remove sports from it.

Speaker 6 (04:32):
H I still think Oklahoma. Yeah, if you feel it,
chase it.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Man.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
We're trying.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
You're running for your life. There's a tornado in every
corner behind alley instead of gang members, they got tornadoes
in the alleyways.

Speaker 6 (04:42):
Or if you play your cards right, that's just busy season.
You're out there chasing storms, which.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
We should want. I want to put it on record now.
I would love to chase a tornado twenty twenty six.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
It would be an awesome vlog for us if there
are storm chasers out there with the right equipment. Yeah,
this afternoon, maybe we'll put that out there.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Put that dude.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
You in a bad place, I do. I've been to Oklahoma.
Very flat standard, a quarter seat, the whole entire state
type of mentality. Gay Bikert a good friend of mine.
He's from Oklahoma. He had a wedding out there, very nice,
very beautiful. However, I'm going Indiana all the way sant Elmos.
They got first off, you go in a little downtown.
They got all the steakhouses out there, Notre Dame, which

(05:24):
you know, the linebacker just in South Bend.

Speaker 6 (05:30):
The one thing I'll give Indiana is they have really
prime time indoor go kart racing tracks and.

Speaker 7 (05:36):
That I can get behind.

Speaker 6 (05:37):
And the Space Center because I grew up playing au basketball.
You go to the Space Center, which is in Indiana.
And what you do for fun outside of playing ball
there is you go race indoor go carts like that
was pretty much it. And the Combine and the common
to the Colts and Lucas Oil Stadium, steakhouses.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, cocktail sauce, cocktail sauce, everything you possibly need. Boys
tunnels because he gets so goddamn cold in the wintertime.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Tunnel more like.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Like what walkways indoor walkways up above ground tunnels, skyscrapers.
Well that's that, but they're all connected. You can stay
inside all day if you want.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Which is God.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
That's gotta be a proferable content. You don't have to
go outside at all. You're just in here.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Boom, dude, I get outside.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Hey you got outside this past week?

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah yeah you did.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah you did.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Gotta get outside more than.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
You Okay, sure, yeah, yeah you do, Yeah you do.
Hell yeah, must have missed my photo I took of
my tractor yesterday because I was outside all day yesterday.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
I didn't see you in the tractor.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Who took the photo?

Speaker 4 (06:43):
It's easy to go outside and just take a photo
of a tractor back just.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Sitting there at the corner. I'm gonna send you a
video today.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
You get out there and just get you you video
and digging up whatever you're digging up.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, I do, and I right now. I went to
True Value yesterday, had a good conversation with one of
the guys that worked there about Nebraska's were in Nebraska.
Hat I go, Hey go, big Red, big mistake. Takes
fifteen to twenty minutes of my time to tell me about
how they lost Oklahoma, but they beat North Carolina. If
they played them again, they play Oklahoma and I'm not
working out for those boys. However, got myself a hoe
all right, I've been out there fucking gardening in a

(07:17):
big way.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
I told you guys three to five years greatest garden Bergs.

Speaker 6 (07:19):
What Twitter is? They want a video of you driving
that tractor?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Done? And I saw a couple of people getting mad
about the Cabodo.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
Sounds like a lot a lot of John Deer fans,
a lot.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Of John Deer fans. I think a lot of people
are upset that I just got before the tariff took place,
right and I don't even know it right, no clue,
no clue, and I don't even know to be honest,
where Cabodo is even manufactured. Probably Japan, right, And we've
got to be in a terriff war with them right now.
We're in a terrifor with everybody. Go get your iPhones

(07:49):
while you still can, ladies and gentlemen. Also, big moment
for busting with the boys today is Monday, this June second.
This is the first day of our intern ship program.
Big about of.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Applause official internship program. We did a little dry run
with the boys a couple of weeks ago. But do what.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
A couple of a couple of Michigan men.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
We have guys suited and booted, ready to get it before.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, you two that kind of crazy.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
You guys also kind of just worked for us too.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
For free, So I guess no, I think there was
a time we got a hundred bucks a week.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
Eight months after working for free.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
I'm gonna be how little broken?

Speaker 6 (08:36):
How long do you think that we worked for free?

Speaker 4 (08:38):
For three months?

Speaker 6 (08:41):
It was absolutely at least six.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Okay, but you've already gone, Gary Goes. I was getting paid, so.

Speaker 6 (08:52):
I just posted on our Twitter, and I had it
typed out the first official class of busting with boys interns,
and I was like, wait, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
I was like, we was the first kind of formal
formal you guys. You guys walked into a startup company.
Everyone was everyone had a lot of free time. Yeah,
you guys have the NFL, so right, this was a side.

Speaker 6 (09:11):
It was a hobby for y'all, and for us it
was life or death.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
So what a horrible you were like intern number one
behind what we have.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
It's so dumb.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
We didn't even have full time employees yet.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
No, No, it was I think it.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Was uh yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
Don't even know who it's. Yeah, it feels like forever ago,
you know what.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
I think.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
Me and Gary Will dubbed them as the first official
class of interns and we'll.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Just can we just do our thing?

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Jack?

Speaker 6 (09:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (09:35):
Can we just.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
It's good to speak your truth. Don't see how fall
you come just bought a house. I want to talk
about how back in your day, how tough it was.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
You know.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Now, we got these young bucks in there that have
suits on, by the way, suits sour patch kids. Celsius.
They brought Celsius, they brought all singular celsius in a pack.

Speaker 6 (09:55):
But the one thing they're missing. Not one of them
has called Jared a bitch yet, but.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I'm pretty su sure we took that out. I'm pretty
sure because Jared is their boss.

Speaker 6 (10:04):
They listen this week next Monday, in our team meeting,
they gotta call.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
They've heard Jared. Jared's standing out there shaking his head already, Jared, j.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, Jed, Jared, one in, one in, Let's get one in.
Turn up the bat right over there. But you want
I'm sitting the seat. I think you should stand up.
I think you should stand up in the back, sitting down,
hit him the mic.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Are you're gonna go, you're gonna go? Name where you're
from and why you wanted this gig?

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Stand up? Name where I'm from and what I wanted.

Speaker 9 (10:50):
My name is Ryan Nolan. I'm from New Jersey. I'm
from Burton County, New Jersey, small town named the Milford.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
I wanted this gig.

Speaker 9 (10:58):
Because I think busting with the Boys is on the
come up. I think it's obviously great right now, but
like the sky's the limit for you guys. And uh,
I saw a will post for the interns. I thought
this is gonna be awesome. I thought, I have, you know,
operations experience, this is what I'm doing, so I thought
it'll be awesome, and I'm really excited to get started
with you guys.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I love it. I love it. Before you go, why
the green tie any reason?

Speaker 4 (11:19):
School?

Speaker 9 (11:20):
This is actually my grandfather's lucky tie.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
I love that.

Speaker 9 (11:26):
My grandfather unfortunately passed away like last September, but I
got to hand it down to me. So this is
like when I'm trying to like look good and wear
a good suit. The green goes with the with the Navy,
and I got the Navy shamrocks on here.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
So shout out. Love it man, Alright, that is beautiful.
Appreciate you all right.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Next they're gonna let him get off first. Let him
get Thank you great work.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Your games are.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yes, sir. No virginity. Easy with the camera's easy with
the cameras. You know, kids Show, Kidshow, Kid Show, Kids Show.
Name where you're from and why you wanted this gigqu

(12:22):
squdic Air Squad.

Speaker 8 (12:25):
Jack Hanning from Hendersonville, Tennessee, Nashville, warn and raised. I
went to the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, Go Balls, and
I wanted this job because I'm a group a fan
of the bus. I want to work in production, want
to work in this world, and I want to make
it doing this kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
All right, Yeah, Jack, give us a little interesting fact
about yourself that maybe people out there don't know about you.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Did you want to be until you're fourteen? No?

Speaker 8 (12:53):
No, closer to twelfth?

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Nice?

Speaker 1 (12:55):
I got some money, I got some I love.

Speaker 8 (12:58):
I love to cook. So that's a passion of mine.
So uh, I like to cook whenever I can.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Do you have a favorite meal you like to cook?

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (13:06):
I like a chicken and sausage gumbo.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Oh okay, southern boy, very nice, whatever it needs. All right, Well,
I'll tell you what, before this internship's over, we would
love it if you cook for us. I would love
to just a quick meal. Maybe put an apron on
and one the fun hat and everything.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
We can dress it up.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
All right, Let's get run a post for Jack. Let's
imagine now swarts Jackie boys, Yes, what happened?

Speaker 4 (13:30):
What happened two months to.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
The vault?

Speaker 5 (13:36):
No?

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, I got a show going on here. We got
a show going on for those of you listening on Spotify,
Apple Downcast. Jack not only has ruined our furniture, but
he also forgot to dap up his volunteer friend Jack McPherson.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
And also make sure you subscribe.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
While you're listening. Go ahead and subscribe. Who's next, mister boo?

Speaker 10 (14:01):
Yeah, Magnolia Tree.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Let's whoa sorry in the back, in the back, in
the back, Magnolia job. I forgot about Magnolia Tree.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
I'm still forgotten. Stand up, stand up?

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Stand up? There a squads, what's up?

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Guys? Name where you're from? Why you wanted this gig?
And then Taylor has to follow up.

Speaker 10 (14:31):
Matt Malone, what was the last question?

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Follow up?

Speaker 10 (14:33):
There was a Taylor Taylor mat Malone, Nashville, Tennessee. I
mean dream job. Come on, I grew up here, so
watching you guys, I was like sixteen, so happy to
be here.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
How old do you know?

Speaker 10 (14:42):
Twenty three? Kind of old, kind of an old daddy.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
We've been going that well, twenty three six years, six
year carried the one he was seventeen stars.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (14:51):
When Mike said he'd cut his dick off, I was like,
seventeen yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Mike, Mike, damn me. He don't give a fuck.

Speaker 10 (14:59):
Break he gave us a pregame speech for a hockey
game one time, really how to go? We got bounds
five to two and he left off the first period.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
It was pretty sweet.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Hockey is your number one sport? Yeah? Favorite sport? Who's
youravorite team? Predators?

Speaker 10 (15:11):
Now you're gonna hate it?

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Who is Blackhawks?

Speaker 1 (15:13):
I don't hate that?

Speaker 10 (15:14):
Okay, Well the Nashville guys do.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, little cultural appropriation there with those jerseys. Other than that,
I think it's a great, great history. Yeah, Chicago, great.

Speaker 10 (15:22):
City Cup six years, phenomenal, Yeah, phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Well, thank you very much, appreciate you coming on.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Hey, you got your you gotta ask him your question.
I just asked fun fact.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Oh yeah, what's give us a I was gonna mix
it up between everybody, but yeah, we can do fun
back for.

Speaker 10 (15:36):
I've broken like thirty two bounds wow yeah, metal collar bound,
metal wrist. Yeah, I have like I was like five
pounds my.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Entire life, so iron man, what happened?

Speaker 10 (15:44):
I was just getting thrown around and lack of dairy yeah,
just getting just getting slammed. Yeah, I get the park,
just getting destroyed. Broken broken wrist, yeah, that was it.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Yeah, we got a sore. Next gym being built, so
we'll have to we'll have to build that. We'll build matter, We'll.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Get some calcium menu, we'll build some muscle to own.
We'll we'll have you the whole program to Jared about
his bet that he has with me right now, jan one,
he has to have a six packs does do twenty
minutes of stand up Zane, which we will do our
best to sell out. We'll do our best to sell.

Speaker 11 (16:13):
Out you guys.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Thank you, good job.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Chef Jack Damn near broke the bus chef.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
Yeah, oh Joe, Chef mad I was like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
The big dog, the big cheese.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Oh you got confidence. Hit me with the inner thigh tap.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
We'll get the with the Jordan's on strong.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Hey, listen, bonus points. If you don't put your hands
on your legs. All right, go ahead, Well with your question.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
Uh name, where you're from and why you wanted to gig.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
My name is Carson Edelman. I'm from a suburb outside
of Kansas City called and i wanted this job because
I'm a grinder. I love you guys, his work, and
I wanted to add my value.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
I love that, absolutely love that. Kansas City. LEITHA it
sounds like a venereal disease. What do you guys like
to do out there?

Speaker 5 (17:20):
I mean, we got we got, we got some fun stuff.
It's a big town, so you can really do whatever
you want.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Fun down, do whatever you want. Sure, Okay, does it
have to happen?

Speaker 4 (17:29):
How many people are in your town? Well, I mean probably.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Squad a little lower and then a hand off the thigh.
That's right, we're getting right here at very nice, very nice.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
That's a decent that's a decent side.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
That's a lot that's a lot of meat hanging around.
Give us a little fun fact about yourself that nobody
else would know.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Nobody knows it?

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Well, I mean people can know, but maybe that the
common man wouldn't know. I'm a big movie buff.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
What's your favorite genre? Probably like.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
An action of some sort, like a drama action.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Okay, drama action suspense type like Transformers. Yeah, curious one
of the ones at the end of the mission. Impossibly
for Tom Cruise. Yeah, what's your favorite movie?

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Do you have?

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Like if I just asked your favorite movie of all time?
Would you know that? Answer?

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Of course?

Speaker 1 (18:25):
What is it?

Speaker 5 (18:25):
Blade Runner twenty forty nine?

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Answer?

Speaker 4 (18:28):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Wow? I've never seen it.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
I have neither.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
What that sounds like I have to tell twenty forty
nine to watch it. It sounds like we've got a
lot of time.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Great movie.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
All right, hey is long one. We appreciate you all
didn't touch that one's name?

Speaker 4 (18:45):
What was his name? Arsen Carson? Big cheese, big cheese,
every good works. That air squad was getting you.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, boys, certain pink us.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
He did dap up?

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Was that for? Was that all of them? We dialed in? Jared,
Jared all confidence, dared.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Yeah, come on, come on in. You can see that.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
You can hear the boss, the boss. Okay, let's let's
have a pretend like the interns can't hear us right now,
first impressions, which one is your favorite?

Speaker 7 (19:23):
God, I'm not gonna say my favorite?

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, yeah, you do say your favorite?

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Boss?

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Move, what's the number?

Speaker 3 (19:28):
One's?

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Who's your number one?

Speaker 8 (19:29):
Guy?

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Right now?

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Rank your like Dean Sanders ranking his children ranked the
what do you.

Speaker 7 (19:34):
That's I think that's a that's I think that's a
bad because they're gonna watch this and then that's gonna
put weird pressure.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, polished number here, the number is a good boss
they're all great.

Speaker 7 (19:44):
They're all great. The suits is great. We were hoping
that everyone except for one would show up in a suit.
That would have been like the perfect thing, that would
have been the most idea.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah, what are you? What's your what's your outlook on
your your internship program? Like, what is your what are
your goals? What are your priorities? When you laid up
at night and spent the entire night writing out this formula,
this agenda? What are you hoping to accomplish with these boys?

Speaker 7 (20:06):
Grow these boys and their skills help Like we've said,
like do ship for busting and we can trust them
with it, like by the end of the summer, Like
we're not having to like watch over.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
Them, I mean.

Speaker 7 (20:22):
And better words, groom them.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (20:26):
They do good work. Groma's individuals.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Workers and people.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, workers and people.

Speaker 7 (20:34):
I'm nervous now I put all my effort into hiring
them and then now they're here.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Mike, Well, you're about to give them the orientation.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
I'm nervous for that, which I kind of want to
be a part of.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
I know, are you polished for the core values?

Speaker 7 (20:46):
I've gone over Like an embarrassing amount of times so long.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Give us the core values.

Speaker 7 (20:50):
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Speaker 4 (21:17):
The orientation.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
When Will and I were having conversations about getting internship together,
who's going to be in charge of it? Jared eventually
came to mind. He was up at the top of
our list, and our whole thought process was, if you've
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that's kind of what we're looking for. Iron fist type
of mentality. Beat these guys into.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
The ground and all.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
The cream will rise at the top. That's what we want.
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we need to do it. I think he can absolutely
do it.

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Absolutely, He's built for that.

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Speaker 4 (23:03):
Should dive into how was a Memorial Memorial Day weekend?

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Memorial Day week, Memorial Day week. It seems like it
was so long ago. We had so much stuff going
on that week. Memorial Day was awesome. It was a
great time, hung out, fucking chilled. I've kind of forgot
what I did, honestly. Yeah, yeah, I went to Michael

(23:27):
Chandler's house. He has a Memorial Day party, so we
went there on Saturday. That was awesome. That was a
good little hangout. Sash weather wasn't the best. It was
not worth getting in the pool for me. But it's
at there a lot of wats and I'll bring that out.
There's a reason why I'm bringing that up. A lot
of wat people just had. And then Natalie Taylor's friend
brings all of her kids over. And then who shows

(23:47):
up about an hour late to the party, Baron Bates.
And you should have just seen Darren walking up to
the house. You just you just tell he was like,
what what the fuck am I doing here? And he
and I just hung out and talked for like three hours.
It was awesome. It had a good time. And then
the squad went to down to Alice Beach hung out.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
You guys have a good time.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, we had a good time. I am slowly what's up?

Speaker 4 (24:12):
I don't know. I think Gary and I are just laughing.
Had a good time, Like there's something behind that time.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Because here's the deal. I've kind of like I've been
a little I've been critical about thirty eight. I've been
critical about my process of going there, you leave, you
come back. You say it's Italy. I go, I think
I've never been in Italy. Battle like, this is Italy.
I walk into Alice Beach feels very much like a
grease type of feel. I feel that quite a bit.
But also it gives me like the scene a plot
of have you ever seen the horror movie the village? Yes,

(24:39):
how it's like very like the Amish or whatever, and
then it becomes very creepy at nighttime. I get that
feeling with Alice, like everything is so white, and not
just the people, but like the landscape is just so
white and like very clean and put together, very hoity toity.
It's where I think to myself, this is the rich village.
This is where at nighttime, after ten p they start

(25:01):
coming out right, they start getting a little scary on me.
I think it's very beautiful, very fun. The next time
I went, I enjoyed it more. This is my third
time going to Alice Beach or in the thirty A area.
I get it. I now understand. I understand why people
love it. I understand why people go down there all
the time. I understand why you know the beaches, how

(25:21):
they're not just sandy, dude, it's like grainier than sand.
It's like more, it's softer, it's comfortable. My kids love
playing around, and it were up. We're up there at nighttime.
We got flashlights. We're chasing crabs down I understand. And
now I want to get a place down there. So
that has been my that has been my pivot. Yeah,
we're moving south because I'm thinking to myself, bro, this exists.

(25:44):
Why are we not down at this shit all the time? No? No, no,
not Alice and Alice is I think Alice is fun.
I think being near Alice is great. I don't like
being in Alice. I think it's a I don't know
if it's my upbringer or what, but I just have
like there's a representation of it that I think it's beautiful.
Restaurants are nice, but I'd rather live a couple of
blocks away. Take my bike, take no, take my bike,

(26:07):
and then cruise over there, go to the Raw Juicy,
give myself an assie bowl and a couple of nice juices,
and then dip out. I feel like there's a lot
of I have to wear a colored shirt twenty four said.
When I'm in that area, you know, I get the
looks when I'm wearing my old school bus in the
Eagle with the beer tied, I a white T shirt
and my shorts that are a little too short for me.
I start walking around that area, I get a couple

(26:27):
of docks and a little couple.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
Of looks that could also because you're six seven.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
True, true, and a lot of bust and fans down
there too. But it really is just Nashville at the beach.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's really all it is down there. So
I messed with it. But I know you went down
there as well.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
I was it for you.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
It was a great time. It was a great time.
We stayed in uh, stayed in secret, just kind of
like right next to Rosemary Alice is a little down
the road. Uh, dude, but it was a blast. Tuesday
was great weather, Wednesday was great weather. Thursday storm all
day long, but we had dinner early and ended up
hitting the beach for like the evening when the sunset

(27:05):
goes down and everything else. Running around. We grab some photos.
But dude, it was a fun time. A lot of chaos,
but controlled chaos. I kind of think about it like,
you know, a football season. You put in all this
work to prepare and plan for just these little moments
at a time that you take in and enjoy. But
then you get back in the car or you got
a prep for the next day, and you know, it's

(27:26):
a little chaotic it because you got a three year old,
you got a six month old. So but it was good. Yeah,
it was a fun time. That's called a little color.
There are a bunch of bus and fans down there,
a lot of people coming up. Hey, did you end
up finding the beach? Did you end up finding rentals?
I got something for you if you didn't.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Question, Yeah, bro, it was Did you figure it out?

Speaker 4 (27:44):
What was the.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Situation with that?

Speaker 4 (27:45):
So here's here's what actually happened. We played. We've been
planning to go to down to Rosemary Secrets thirty A
for a few months now, and Turow a few weeks
out called the rental companies to get us set up
for you know, an umbrella, chairs, all the services so

(28:06):
you're not carrying your chairs and everything down to the beach.
And none of the services ended up calling back or
getting back to her voicemails, which they usually do. And
so we're heading down there and I'm like, let me
just try to call and I try to DM them
on Instagram, these different spots. I try to call them.
Somebody finally answers. I want to say his name is Carry,

(28:26):
shout out Carry. But he's like, oh, we got nothing
this week, bro, And he's like, I don't think anybody does.
So everything was booked up because we're driving down there
the day of Like, oh, we're driving down there on Monday.
And so I took to the internet and my thought was,
we'll just buy an umbrella, Like we're just gonna have
to carry chairs, We'll buy an umbrella. I'll just go
out crack a dawn and just mark the territory and

(28:48):
stake it out. It's ain't going down. Yeah, I ain't
gonna I ain't gonna let this happen to this family. Yeah,
we're not going down all this way. We're not gonna
get a good spot.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
And it gives you an opportunity to be the hero
of this story, which is awesome.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Yeah. And uh, so we get down there, we buy
an umbrella and everything. But that night we were staying
in uh we were staying in secret to where it's
like this this village area. We had a cot. We
were renting a condo in this village area where they
have all all these little eating spots. There's a band
playing at night time. It's a lot of fun. And
Ben Jones shows up. He's down there. We see each other.
We're chopping it up, and he was like, hey, if

(29:20):
you need a place to go to the beach, like,
you can just come. You can come to my house,
you can park and then you can just walk down
to the to our beach area. Usually there's there's never
that many people because everybody's down at like Rosemary and
where Alice everything else. So we had to hook up
the Ben drove drove the next day, went into his
uh went into his little community, parked on the lot
where he's gonna build on, and we just had a

(29:42):
little walk down to the beach so we were able
to sit up there. And then on Wednesday, Charles had UH.
We linked up with one of Charles's friends and we
went to this place called the Water Sound Club, which
seems immaculate. They have it's like, uh, it's like uh
like a beach country club vibe to where you have
private beach access. There's pools there, there's like a lazy river,

(30:02):
so they have all the you know, the chairs, the umbrella,
the food service going on. So that way, when you
got the kiddos like you're you're set up. You're not
carrying a bunch of different things, because Rue will lose
her mind if she has any grains of sand in
her in her sandals.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Which to for Rue like that is a very big
pain in the ass.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
There's a couple of times I had to make the
trick from the beach back to the condo, back and forth. Yeah,
and I'm feeling the sand between my toes and I'm
fucking hating one.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yeah. Yeah, So we got to do that on Wednesday,
and then Thursday we did a lot of stuff just inside.
We went down to a few shops and then in
the evening we got dinner early and went we went
out to the beach, and then Friday we sent it
home and shout it. Also, Kirk Banker, he put me
on greaton Greaton Beach, which is probably a fifteen minute
drive from where we're at.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Is that, Alice, Rosemary?

Speaker 4 (30:48):
That way got you? No, Rosemary goes like Rosemary secret Alice.
You know, we're Ben Jones and it's it's continuing up,
it's continuing up. That way got you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying. Area. Is that
the area that the houses, I don't want to say
not as nice, but like they're more like southern beachy,
old school vibes more. Yeah, it feels more authentic, not
as much. Which people found the area because I kind
of I like doing that little drive up there, go
hit the turbo coffee. They had a little coffee spot
out there that's pretty awesome. And then you kind of

(31:19):
keep going and it's a little more.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Gratings, like a good fifteen minute drive, so it might
be a little farther than I'm thinking. And there's a spot,
oh man, I forget. I think it's called hots h
Otz and they have these breakfast tacos and burritos and bowls,
and the coffee was phenomenal. So we hit there a
couple of times, but it was good. Dude, hit a
what is it George's the dinner spot, it's over by you,

(31:43):
it's over by Alice. You not hit George's when you
go to no, oh, buddy, Citizen is where we went
on Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
They're Citizen Oku. There's that Charlie's Lord Fonville. That place
does fuck they have an onion onion dip type of thing.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
And then just that little Rosemary Town Center bro where
it's got the fountain.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yes, yeah, that's where. That's where, you understand, so family friendly.
Six different ice cream shops. Yeah, there's there's all these
different kind of ice cream shops. It's like I want
to I want to be ash ketchum, I want to
get them on.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
Yeah, yeah, super quick.

Speaker 12 (32:22):
I was lucky enough my grandmother was born in Blue
Mountain Beach and actually lived in Grayton Beach my entire life,
so I got to grow up going to grandma's house
in Grayton. And a tip for you, if you're looking
down there, it cannot get discovered because it is surrounded
by National parks, so it cannot expand anymore. So that

(32:44):
that you're looking for that, it's like you're off the
beaten path, but you're right there by it.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
You should look in Grayton. It's cool.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
You know what spot I really like, I really love
is Ben Jones's little area.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Put off anything his spot that he's at, but that
neighborhood is in Yeah. A big fan of that.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Yeah, that's the one that's like right next to Alice.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yeah. So that's what I like about it is you're
just a bike. You're kind of a bike, right, you're central,
but you're just off a little bit where you can
go bike ride and hit it all. Because I do
a big news Win Rebel Lawan. Right before we went
down there, we got a bike and we did the
towel technique when rebela one can now ride a bike.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
The we technique, the wet technique, towels, towel technique.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
So you get them. First off, Win is a very
cautious child. Love her to death. She's very she gets
nervous about new things. But you take a towel and
you're wrapping around their torso and you kind of hold
it and you kind of just jog next torom her
walk next to them while they're figuring out the balance
of the bike. And we went down there first couple
of times. There was one time she spun out of control.
Does the whole reach back for daddy thing. I'm thinking, brother,

(33:45):
you're gonna get shit. Just had her dangling like the
bike hits and she's just like like like like Tom
Cruise mission impossible. Right, he goes down pitches and I
got her back up, hit her with a couple of those.
But now she's riding. She's still afraid have the towel off.
But I kind of just jogged next to her now
while I hold the towel and she's like fully balancing
yourself also, So just get a solid sweating. But uh, yeah,

(34:09):
the bike riding. I love the bike riding. I love
the golf carts. I love that. I love the fact
I don't have to get a car. I can go
park my car and not have to see it for
the rest of the trip. I'm down there, and so
Ben's area I think is awesome because it's right there.
Their beach access so easy. You don't have to ask
a lot of questions. You don't just walk down that
one little area and it's coolly like Ben's down there.

(34:30):
Trs in that same area. The one bad part about
it is you can't rent it. You can't rent it out.
So if you were to get a place, can't rent it.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah, I think if I ever got a place, i'd
probably get it near that that water Sound club.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I need to know more.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Grab a golf cart, just get a little townhouse, have
a golf cart just have a spot where you go
you can take an easy little golf cart ride and
the services are there. So that way you're not you know.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Is that up the road, like away from the beach.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
It's like in yeah, it's like more again explaining it
Rosemary Secrest, Alice, that Ben Jones area a little more
up from that.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Got you a little more yeah, yeah, yeah, but that
area you go to past Alice, you take a rite.
There's like this I don't want to use the word
country club, but it is kind of like a country club.
They have golf courses on there. They have a really
nice state of the art gym. But there's also like
a little like water park player where they have a
lazy river and stuff like that. That's just up the road.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
It might be water Sound Club, it might be it
might be why do you hate why do you hate
country club? You gotta let go of the country club.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
You stayed al Yeah, No, I stayed in Oscach. I
rented at Alice Bach, which, by the way, the amenities
of Alice Beach is insane. I understand that for sure.
I don't like being told what to wear. I don't
like I don't like that it's like you have there's
a if there's a dress code, it just bothers me.
It's like, why the fuck do we need that? We
don't have to.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
You kind of get just told what to wear so
you don't have to think about it.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
No, because it's no. Because if it's if it's if
it's given to me, like here's your kaki shorts and
here's your collar shirt that you have to wear every day,
it's like, great, that's like private school. I'll just walk around.
Don't us to worry about how they look. We all
have the same But it's like, you gotta wear a
collar shirt if you're this tucked in belt, blah blah blah.
That's where I kind of like, dude, what are we
trying to prove here? What are we chase it? As
Cory Eleven would say, I'm just trying to have fun.
So let me wear my T shirt and my shorts onward,

(36:20):
you know.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Yeah, yeah, okay, get it.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
As long as you get it.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Busting Bowls Official three thirty three thirty Is that eastern?
Three thirty eastern? Hey, it's an afternoon game. We're in
the afternoon.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
It's a second slot after the first slot. Gay, Yeah,
busting Bowl and Lincoln Birthday weekend. Let's fucking go. Can
we get fun to talk about?

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Now?

Speaker 12 (36:48):
Can we get your early line? Just what you think
the line of the game would be.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
I think it'll be. I think it'll be Nebraska minus
five and a half.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
I mean, man, let's be realistic. It'll probably be Michigan
favored around like seven and a half if we beat Oklahoma.
If we don't beat Oklahoma, I think that lines more
in your minus one and a half minus two and
a half. I don't think Nebraska has been given the
respect it deserves quite yet, so I think it's going
to lean a lot heavier towards Michigan if we beat Oklahoma.

(37:27):
In Oklahoma, line's going to get towards the double digit category.

Speaker 12 (37:31):
What would you say if I told you that Vanduel
has already set the line just for you boys? And
what live reaction on the button?

Speaker 6 (37:39):
No?

Speaker 4 (37:40):
Shit?

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Shut up?

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Can we asked who was closer?

Speaker 4 (37:45):
You can't?

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah, Well, why don't we just pull it up and
you'll see?

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Okay, that seems fair.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
That's a good I mean, you got hammer Michigan minus
three and a half right now, right, you gotta hammer
that pets. You gotta hammer that pretty fair. He's a
fair line. I mean, what was the last time these
two teams played. It was over twenty points? It was
twenty one and a half, I.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Believe, Yeah, yeah, it was a lot.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
It was a lot. We don't got to go here
right now, do we.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
I'm just saying you look right here. You got plus
one thirty six odds on just Nebraska money line. So
if you do think Nebraska gonna win this game, you're
any very favorable spot.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah it's going like that certainly equal out a little bit,
but yeah.

Speaker 7 (38:35):
I do like the minus three and a half.

Speaker 10 (38:37):
You're right, if you're if you're a Michigan fan, you
gotta hammer that.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Right because a lot of things can changed. The first
three weeks couldure worse for Michigan, no doubt about it,
But they handle Oklahoma. I had a conversation with a
guy down in Alice Beach. Actually he was wearing a thing.
I said boomer. He said soon, I said, how you
feel about Michigan goes? I don't know. I said, all right,
thank you, sir. All I needed went back to the beach.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Josh Paton seems to be pretty high on Oklahoma does
he I think he's got to be like their top ten,
top ten.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
I don't like that because Payton is low key the
college football guru. Yeah, he understands.

Speaker 11 (39:10):
Business is the like Boomer Sooner call it in public.
That's a pretty solid one, right, like.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
A go blue whatever.

Speaker 11 (39:17):
You just hit him with the boomer and they hit
you sooner.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
I like ones that have more like call recall, like
so Boomer. Then they say sooner. But like that's all
you said. Yeah, I know, but you say go blue
and go blues. Just go blue, there's no got was.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
A pretty good.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
He said, like Michigan go blue.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
It was.

Speaker 11 (39:38):
I didn't want to say roll tide.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Do you say roll? Do you say roll? And then
somebody says time is Boomer Sooner better than game Cocks?
Like no, I think game I take game Cocks over that.
I messing South Carolina Oklahoma like I don't have any ties.
I don't have any care about them.

Speaker 6 (39:59):
But your whole argument is based off if you guys
win or lose against Oklahoma right now?

Speaker 3 (40:05):
So do you care?

Speaker 6 (40:07):
And are you gonna say yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:08):
To me, it's not a bad blood game, Like that's
a worthy opponent. That's a Saul that's an SEC school.
We're gonna have to travel down means to them, and
we're gonna have to We're gonna see where we lie.
Early in the season, a lot of people want to say, Hey,
we're not gonna do these big time non conference games.
We fucking we're Stintinto's own. We're gonna go get this
non conference game in. We're gonna handle.

Speaker 11 (40:27):
I think you got to take the three and the
half now, Yeah, I think so if you're a Michie,
if you're leaning towards that way.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm obviously I like the three
and a half a lot because you win in Oklahoma,
right right, you lose in Oklahoma. Depends how you lose,
it might just stay stay. Yeah, So it'll be interesting.
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(40:54):
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It was a very very close race this month. Jared
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He will, He will absolutely be doing that. Good for him.
Let's take a quick, tiny, little break and then let's
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Speaker 11 (43:44):
I mean, this one kind of speaks for itself. I
feel like this is a Will Compton staple. He's built
a community on Twitter for trash Day. So we had
to remind everyone out there, all the fathers out there,
don't miss trash Day.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Don't miss trash Dad.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
Dad'sn't let thates forget trash Day, don't.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Do group chat with your neighborhood. Let the boys know
the night before, get it going. That shirt will remind
you to remind them. A little bust in, little buss
and calls, love the bust and call in the front.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
Got dad duty, blank on the front, Dad duty on
the back.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Opposite of that that Dad duty duty on the front.

Speaker 11 (44:18):
Maybe we should do one of those things.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
I like that blank on the front or a blank back.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
I saw thirty eight where it was blank on the
front and had the stuff in the back and I
was like, oh, that's kind of cool. So that's where
my brain went to my nice boys.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
In thirty eight.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
Still, we also got epic this one. It's sick.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Yeah. This one we pulled out before the episode started
and I looked at it.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
I was like, you see the dad strength is real. Boom, sweat,
tears and beers.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Uh, that's four fifteen that wolves got on his back.
That's four fifteen.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
That's some light. So those of you count ship it's
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There's a bunch of other stuff. Bwtv dot com shot
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Speaker 1 (44:57):
We got some hats too, go on your girl, dad.
And also I've had this one for a minute. Look
at you. That's got some wear and tearing it dad,
just as it's nice. Warning, right, it's like leather. It
looks better the more you wear it.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
And speaking of the dad note, tell them well, we
have a new show that will be starting next week
and that podcast is called for the Dads for the Dads,
hosted by your boy Sure them will be producing in
coasting in the back and uh, dude, we're fucking excited.
I don't want to say a whole lot. I know
the trailers coming out, we'll be talking about it all
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(45:37):
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Speaker 1 (45:46):
Support the dads.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
We have a mental load too. We need to carry
the flag for those dads. And this is not some
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building community, embracing fatherhood, embracing the love and suck because
we all know we love it a lot, but we
also know we gotta battle through the tough time, through
the trenches. And you sit there and think to yourself, why,
and though, fuck this.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
I'm so glad that you brought it up there. You
brought the fact that it's not a show you go
to to get advice. Yeah, it's just showed event. It's
a show to feel it out. Hey, these good things happen,
these bad things happen, But altogether, this is what Will
Compton's been doing. Yeah, go ahead and tell me what
you've been doing. And now we can just kind of
feel this little pot luck of love and hatred and anger,
not hatred, a little bit of anger, a little bit

(46:27):
of back and forth. Let's just feel it.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
The just pieces scattered everywhere. Ever, we're just trying to
figure out how to put it together because at the
end of the day, we don't know what the hell
we're doing. We don't all trying to figure it out.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Right, you're the dad as the first time being a
dead of a seven year old. She'll be eight soon,
first time being a debt of an eight year old.
That shit will suck, which he turns out, I'll probably cry. Actually,
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Speaker 3 (48:11):
Ba I'm feeling great. Yes, had to be on the bus.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Yeah, a million domestic did. We were just talking right
before the show started about your gambling antics. You're getting
into it, huh yeah, talk to me about your strategy
because apparently some other sports books have like said, hey,
we got to slow you down a little bit.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Yeah, I've been limited by a few books. That'd be
your appreciative if they unlimited me, since I invested in
the company, by the way, But uh, look, I just
I've always been a gambler. Legally, we couldn't do it
for the longest time, and now it's like the thing
to do. So I'm always trying to hammer about twenty
to thirty bets in the day. It doesn't matter if

(48:48):
I'm betting on college football or Asian baseball.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
You'll you'll go internationally.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
I'm doing it. I'm doing it, And what I'm doing
is I'm trying to find edge. And the way I
picture it is the way I see it is like,
all right, look what I'm doing is buying stocks. Say
you know what the say, We're I'm buying this bottle
you're selling. You know, you're selling to me for a dollar.
But I can go here and get it for ninety

(49:15):
five cents, But then I can go over there and
get it for eighty four cents. Rather I like the
water or not, the deal is finding the best deal.
And so I'm going to invest in this water not
because I love the water, but because which I actually
do love body arm, but because I love the value
that I'm getting. And so I'm finding value. And it's
like I guess they call it evvet betting, and so
over time, if you ever want to beat the books,

(49:38):
you gotta find value. And so I have. I have
probably ten or eleven books, like, I got all of them.
I even got to the point where I got a
different VPN to get some of the books that are
out of out of state, no shit, Yeah, which I've
stopped doing because it's probably not good to do.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Now, your guy, it sounds like you're somebody who's just
doing more straight up up like straight up bets versus
like parlays.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Parlays, in my opinion, is how you don't win.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Blasphemous.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
Yeah, I love a good parlay.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
I mean I love a good parlay, but in the
business plus fifty five hundred parlay and just think what, Yeah,
that ship is the best eight nine legs And you're like, buddy,
I mean, if it all works out, this fifty dollars
turns into whatever this is, now, that is incredible.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Yeah, you know, but that's just life on the edge.
I mean, if you're in the business of making money,
parlays is not how you make money. But if you
just want like a little drilling, a drilling rush, and like, man,
if you can do this, yeah, you know, just a
little bit like yes, if I pull this off, this
is legendary. But everything has to go right now.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
You are mostly picking like favorites, so where you're getting
as close to like minus one hundred dollars as possible.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Yeah, preferably, Like if I'm going to go out there
and take something with a five percent evy edge, I
like it to be in. Okay, we're you know, the
best edge I'm get is minus one twenty five, But
the sharpest book in the world has them at minus
one fifty five. To me, that's like I'm hopping over
that all over that. I'm hammering that bet and hoping

(51:12):
it works out.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Or fall, Like when do you start jumping out?

Speaker 4 (51:17):
Do you?

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Because I know like professional gamblers kind of do, like
early when the fir and the lines first come out,
or like right at the end. Where do you usually
do you usually start early in the week.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
I wake up every morning and I thank God for
letting me hit these feet hit the ground. And I'm
opening up the app and I'm trying to find something
that absolutely hammer and I don't care if it's damn
a chess match or Asian soccer or Indian baseball. If
I find the ad that's cricket, there it is, I'm

(51:47):
doing it. I'm doing it and so. But but once
the football season, to me is that was it. It's
tougher for football because there's so many variables, especially when
you get to the skill position of like wilde receivers
and stuff like I I win, but I have a
better chance of losing just because, like you know, in
order for me to be cessful on the football for

(52:08):
as a receiver, I need the offensive line to hold up.
I need the quarterback to deliver it dom I need
to have a good coverage that allows me to do that. Now,
I like doing the over under catches for like people
like DJ Moore or like maybe even Adam Thielend or
you know, really the like an amar Rah. Like those guys.
I know they're gonna get their screens, They're gonna get

(52:30):
those short routes, and then if they, you know, crack
something open, it might get something downfield.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
Yeah. I love that he's got a methodology.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Yeah, he's definitely DIALD. So when you're looking at NFL,
you're more of a promp bag guy over like a
team situation.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
For the most part. But you know, if if Kansas
City's playing the Raiders last year at minus you know
I'm getting them at one minus one seventy five, I
might go ahead and hammer that one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
And then when the odds that high towards the favorite,
are you betting higher to acquire more? You keep your
bets normally the same.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
I've learned in order to be successful, you need to
have discipline in this sporting game. You have to have discipline.
You got to have whatever your unit size is, you
got to be consistent. But sometimes you have that gut
feeling where these boys are gonna hammer them, and so
I might not only take the win, but I might
take them I might take Kansas City at a minus

(53:25):
fourteen or something like that, or minus nine and a
half where I get plus two hundred odds or something
crazy like that, if I have a feeling. But for
the most part, I've learned to be really disciplined because
I've also been on the other side where I'm like, yeah,
I know football. I think they're going to you know,
the Browns are going to lose, and then Brown's got
there to win, and then I'm down five thousand dollars

(53:48):
and I had to risk eight thousand dollars to even
get that right.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
So isn't it crazy the statement you just brought up
about I know football, so I believe this is going
to happen. When I first are doing the game or anything,
I was like, well, I understand the game more than
like ninety nine percent of the world. I'm being able
to just dice up these sports books, yep, and quickly
found out they know way more than I did. Veggas

(54:13):
understands the game way better than I ever could.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Vegas was built to ass Yeah, when I first started,
I was getting my head beat all the way upen.
I was frustrated, and I was starting to like what
is going on, like I know football, like this shouldn't
it's ridged or something. But then I just kind of like,
you know, got crushed and lost a lot of like
extra money that I earned in appearances. And my wife

(54:38):
was like, what the are you doing, dude?

Speaker 4 (54:40):
Like to charge to the game, you charge of the game.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
My mood's changing. And then I just like, you know what,
I'm done betting on emotions because clearly Vegas in the
books are much smarter than me, because that's why their
lights are on and mind were threatened to be off. Dude.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Yeah, it's so fun crazy with the NFL, how like
things You just you see two teams and you know
one team's way better than the other and you're like,
I'm hammering this team and they're going to cover. Then
all of a sudden that team has like an ungodly day.
The Browns are a perfect example of that. Yep, how
they how they are they're able to do that when
you were playing? How difficult? When so let's do this?
When did you know that you love sports gambling?

Speaker 3 (55:21):
I've see my dad was a gambler. My granddad was
a gambler and like pool table and like just it's
just in me. It's just in me. I'm a competitor,
and like anytime you competition, signed me up, coach. And
so I was always on the golf course gambling. I
was out in the locker room, gambling in bu rat tonk,
horn hole on the plane, pong on the plane.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yes, an those plane flights get scared, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
And I got my head beat open then when I
was young too. But anytime I could be competitive and
then throw some money on it, sign me up. And
so as soon as I got done with football, because
I was also never want to ruin my career, you know,
getting involved in that. And I've seen guys get smacked
upside the head, and so I just kind of once
I got done, I was like, all right, well here

(56:07):
we go. This is a way for me to watch it.
This is a way for me to be have some
skin in the game. And uh Vegas abused me for
a long time.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
What's the most amount of money you've seen like gambled
and bet around in the locker room, playing like Boo
Ray and talk because being in Washington like getting the
kind of sit back and watch D'Angel hall, Trent Williams,
Brian and Rack pulling the boys just I'm talking. They'd
get off a flight talking about how they were down
like six figures and it would just blow.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
My that is crazy to just irresponsible, yeah, responsible.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
And then Rat we were a big gambling the times
were bag of gambling. Then Rat came over and Harry
Douglas and all of a sudden they were getting after
it every week where Harry bring like stacks like twenty
five thousand, and he did play like between meetings. I'm thinking,
I wish I would live distress free. I wish I
was able to live like that.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
I've seen guys bou ray. I've seen guys have no
more cash and put their rolexes or their rightlings on
the table, damn, And I'm just like, you've lost your.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
Mind after they've lost the cash that they had.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
I've lost the cash and they're feeling so good or
they're so desperate that they're just like here you go. Now.
Most guys have a heart and it like, bro, no,
I'm not going to do that. Just take your watch
and we'll settle up. I'll give you a thirty deal,
you know, so instead of giving me one hundred racks,

(57:34):
you know, just give me forty and we'll call it
good or something.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Which is crazy.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
Has it ever Have you ever experienced anything or seen
it where it's gotten to the points where it like
got physical because guys were pissed off.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
No, it never got to that point because we had
some other guys are almost always managing it. And then
you can see things starting to heat up. And so
if things heat up, you started like, all right, I'm
prepared to like de escalate this real quick before it
becomes a problem. And then coaches are saying like, you
can't gamble period on the plane, you can't play any cards,

(58:08):
and so you know, don't mess up for everybody. But
I've seen some aggressive like hurt for words, been saying
like damn that would hurt Yeah, that would hurt me.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
But we'd have guys. I think I've told this story before,
but a couple of teammates they were just gambling over
what is it. We used to play it all the
time at your house, Oh, shuffle board, shuffle board, And
they're just throwing they're just throwing one, they're just sliding one,
and they're just trying to get closest to the end,
and they just do it on one and they're betting
thousands of dollars. And it got to where this was
somebody who was like undrafted and he was taking he

(58:42):
was taking some money from one of the big dogs,
and the dude was so pissed off he had to
like walk the big dog. The big dog was so
pissed off he had to like walk out, and I'm
like saying, on my guys, y'all have to stop doing this.
And I'm you know, telling the dude by his name.
I'm like, bro, just just cut this loss now and
go away. And he was he was pissed off and
be like no, I'll get your fucking money. And it's

(59:03):
like this is post practice where everybody's going and I'm
just getting done showering, and they're just sitting there playing
shuffle board, just one at a time, trying to play
closest to the end. Yeah, to where it gets to
the point to where it's uncomfortable. My boy was Houston.
Bates was the one who was winning to where Houston
is uncomfortable still having to play because the other one
he would keep making him play so he can win

(59:23):
his money back. So that's and so he's like feeling
bad that he's like continuing to beat him, and you
just feel the attention everywhere.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
The thing that I never understood is the way you
have to go again, because we would always have that
little mini basketball hoop in the in the locker room,
and I would just do little mid range shots and
just kind of death by a thousand cuts.

Speaker 4 (59:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
And when we play pig hundred bucks whatever, yeah, and
I would win a couple of games against these guys
and they'd be like, do it again. I'm like, no,
I'm done. I won two hunred dollars. I'm gonna go
back to my locker and and they're like then for
the next four days, they're mad at me that I
didn't give them another shot, And it's like, what do
you mean? Like how long do you want this to last?

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Right?

Speaker 1 (59:58):
How long do you want to keep this going? There
is no feel like it's it's it's the code.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
It's the code.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
I'm like, what fucking code? Like, what are we talking about?
I don't have a computer in front of me. I
don't the hell is going on?

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
And you just yeah, just money and I want to
walk away now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
To the point where you're like maybe I should just lose,
and it could all just be fucking done, because it
is crazy, how dudes will I've never seen that amount
of money or like whatever money you're probably talking about,
or the one hundred thousand you're talking about. I was
never in that type of position, but I'd be up
like three fourn bucks in these little basketball games and
these duds are getting pissed about it, and I'm like,

(01:00:31):
I know how much money you make, what's the problem here?
And it's and it would literally sometimes even take it
in the practice field where they what's good? But whatever, man,
it's like we're about to hit a two minute drill.
What are we mad about right now? It is crazy.
There should be like a documentary. I think you could

(01:00:51):
easily make a show about the inner workings of a
locker room, like a sitcom type of thing, the equipment staff,
how they operate, the player and sideline. Don't even show
any football, just like how everyone kind of like just
that ecosystem. It is just crazy to me.

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Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Yeah, it was Seattle, Detroit, Philly, New York. Yeah, the Giants,
and then the Titans rented me on practice squad for
like eight weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
For what's the most dysfunctional locker room you've been in?

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
What year was that?

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
Which? Which year? It was? Like the year after COVID maybe, yeah,
in the Yeah, the year that you guys are like
a one seed or two seed. You had Julio and
aj out. They brought me in and decided to just
keep me on ice for whatever reason, and that was it.
But the most dysfunctional locker room to me was Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
And you got there the year after the Super Bowl,
right exactly. Yeah, he's the most dysfunctional, the.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Most dysfunctional place. Now, the fan base, you want to
be on their side, as we all know that, like
they are very passionate, their fans know their sports. But
inside that locker room, dog, First off, the locker room
for price, locker room was underwhelming. I was like, this
is what we got here. The food was great, but

(01:03:02):
we the indoor was not even a hundred yards. It
was like sixty or seventy yards in a bubble, and
we were having to practice with people from no Overcare
actually rehabbing who were unaffiliated with the organization, like they're
just people who were just getting rehabbed. It was like
weird to me. And we had a few incidents. We

(01:03:24):
had incidents. We're making a playoff push and off. It's
a lineman and one of the coaches got into it
about the game before and the lineman is like, you see,
this is how it's supposed to be. And the coach
is like, no, motherfucker, this is how it's supposed to be.
I was right last week and they're just going back
and forth. I'm gonna line of scrimmage and a walk through,

(01:03:44):
like what is going on? And Doug is just holding
his like little postcard with his notes with this little
visor on, just like god stop, it just calmed down.
These guys keep going at and eventually one guy throws
the ball at the other guy and then they just
run each other and start fighting. I'm sitting on the
line of streamers like is this really happening. We're trying
to get to the playoffs right now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
This is this is a coaching a player.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
This is a coach and a player. Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
What was that the was that the year Carson was
playing and went down with the knee.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
No, that was the year before. Because Carson went down,
Nick won the Super Bowl, and then the season he
came in, that's when Nick he was benched.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
No, Carson was Carson had a back injury at some
point right around when I got there that they didn't
know by the way their doctors mishandled so many injuries,
like so many. I tell my guy, they had to
go to court for it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Practice.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Yes, yes, yes, it's it's noted. I mean Chris Margoes
they mishandled him and he just settled with them for
like of a jillion dollars. But anyway, then what was
I saying?

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
You were talking about Carson Wentz he had a backage
that they didn't know about.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
Start.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Yeah, that was going on the playoff push and it
was it was a bigger deal than anyone thought it was.
So Foles comes in and handles the show and we
end up pushing to the playoffs and end up getting
you know, put up by by New Orleans. But yeah,
that was that was a different dynamic too. You know
Foles and Carson, it was they tolerate each other, but

(01:05:21):
you can tell they were not best buds.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
It's gotta be hard man because it's like Carson he
was having I mean, he was like a front runner
for the MVP before he went he was like because
they were like they were like, what twelve and zero?
And then he goes down. They go on and win
the Super Bowl with Nick Foles. Nick Foles plays well,
there's all this talk going on because I want to say,
was that starting to get into the COVID. No yet,
But people there always there are question marks around, like

(01:05:46):
Carson's work, ethic and buying in the off season on
whether it's you know, hey, are you staying with us
to train in Philly and it sounds like that's not
the place you want to be at, so he might
be somewhere else, And then hey, who's going to be
the starter? He was the MVP, but you also have
the Super Bowl winner and just in the same room
of a position group where there's only like three guys
sitting in there, it's got to be it's got to
be awkward, Like you're trying to be a pro and

(01:06:06):
again tolerate each other, but it has to be weird
on like because sometimes the coaches aren't even telling you
what they're thinking. Yeah, so you're gonna walking in wondering
what's going to be happening with you because you're still
trying to be the best at the end of the day.
And if coaches are kind of gray with you, that
it creates us unnecessary like assumptions between everybody, which probably
just makes it awkward.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
And yeah, like the environment you talked about the fan
base with Philly, like they're the one of the loudest
fan bases when it comes to criticism. Yeah, and if
Carson's kind of not doing what he's supposed to do.
And Nick just took everybody the super Bowl and won
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
And Carson has one bad game, fans are going to
come off this guy any grace.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
And I can imagine being like, you know, Carson who
went to what North Dakota State, like one D one
double a school, gets picked to the top five of
the draft, ends up having the success he does. Then
all of a sudden, he like it was a diving
for a touchdown, right, one guy hits his style, one
guy hits his calf, and that's what tour it still
stays in, throws himself a touchdown and then he walks
off the field. That's a badass fucking move. But to

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sit there and have the acl knowing what the fan
base of the Eagles are there, I bet you there
was a piece of fin that's like, hopefully they go
far in the playoffs, but they don't want to win
it though, because then it's like that main character syndrome
comes in, the narcissism that every football player possesses the
ego in a lot of ways. And then the next
season it's I'm sure in the off seasons already talking

(01:07:27):
we want Nick Nick's a guy that's gonna do it.
This guy's damage goods. Blah blah blah. When did Carson
have this back injury? You say it was right before
you got there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
It was like what it had to be before I
got there, But and it got worse and then they
got X rays and saw that he had something really
going on as either back or neck, and then he
was kind of out of there, which had to be
like because I got traded right before the deadline, like
literally on my off day before they call me, which

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is what we gave. Yeah, at the time, we're playing
sixteen games, so probably week I don't know, ten, eleven, twelve, maybe,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
What do you feel like it was that was creating
because obviously you weren't there the year before and some
of the stuff leading up. But when you're getting in
and learning about the big picture of everything, where do
you feel like a lot of the friction was getting created?
Do you feel like Carson has just not back to
where he was full health and he just couldn't go
and so Nick was probably the better guy to play.
Was there political stuff going on with Carson and Nick

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in the front office?

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
It's gotta be such a weird thing to walk into
halfway through the season as well.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
It was so uncomfortable, man, And it is one of
the hardest things ever to get traded midseason at the
wide receiver position to try to figure out how I
can step in and be an asset to this organization,
like right away because the show still has to go on. Yeah,
and I've been running slants my entire life, but the
way Carson wants to slant versus how Stafford or any
other quarterback wants to slant, it's just different. And if

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it comes down to, like, all right, well fourth it's
fourth down two in the offense, who am I gonna
go to? I'm gonna go to the guy that I've
been running the slint with the whole year. Nothing against
your athleticism or how you run it, just like I'm
not completely comfortable. And that's just a difference between, you know,
the camaraderie that you have and the you know, the
bonding you have. But to me it Carson, He's a

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young guy, you know, and obviously being drafted in the
first round and in the city of Philadelphia is just hard, man.
I Mean, everybody knows there's sports and everyone has an opinion,
and they are not afraid to boo you. You can
have eleven straight good games in one bad game and
you're getting boomed, and so like dealing with that as

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a young man is already enough. And you're the quarterback
of the You're supposed to be the face of the franchise,
and then this happens. Nick comes in takes you the
rest of away. I know, like on camera, I'm super
happy for the guy, but deep down thinking like, man,
is this the beginning of the end? How do they
view me? Do they even think I was a huge

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part of the Super Bowl run? Although you know I
didn't take us the whole way. You just got all
these thoughts that pop into your head. And so you
know you had Carson, who was you know, after a
good game, he's reading to see what they're saying. But
after a bad game, he's reading to see you know,
people absolutely shit on him. And like I would walk
up on the bus and I just like see him

(01:10:27):
like kind of like to himself, I'm like, bro, it's
all right, bro, like just bounce back. And you had Folds,
who was like coming to the locker room, he spoke
with everybody. I wouldn't get a single pass the entire game,
but in the fourth quarter he'd make me think it
was still coming. Hey Golden, stay ready, stay ready, I'm
coming to you. And it just felt like car and
I was part of Carson's click. But it felt like

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with Carson he had his four to five six guys
offense defense that he liked and he hung with and
that was all that mattered, right everyone else it felt like, Bro,
do you want to hang out with me? Or do
you want to have a relationship? Do you want to
have lunch, dinner? Can we do something together? And that's
kind of just the feel. But I wasn't there long enough,

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nor did I want to even step into all that
and deal with that, just kind of like, man, this
is enough. I'm trying to figure out how to get
to my apartment, to the facility, what a lunch room is,
what the playbook is, and so but it's you know,
that was just kind of the feel that I got.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
Yeah, when you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
When you walk on the bus and you're seeing a
guy slunch in the corner after a bad game, hit
the search bar on Twitter and they're going through just
you see them fighting those demons for whatever reason feeding
themselves that do you ever see anything to a guy
like Carson, you gotta just keep it moving, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
You I would advise, when you have a bad game,
just delete the app for that week until you have
a good Internet demons. Boy, they are relentless dog and
they'll have you question like, damn, dude, maybe I shouldn't
be playing football.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
Yeah, Like Bro, I would be questioned myself. This is
in college, just on message boards, and I would question
myself so much that I would have to go back
and watch my high school highlights just to see, dude,
just to see if I still had it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
God for real?

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
See in college for me, like I wasn't savvy enough
to know about the message boards. My dad would kind
of talk about it because he was always on the right,
but I never like ventured in so I lived in
a nice little world of just thinking I was the
man all the time in Michigan, and even if I
had a bad game, I was like, I'm gonna play
better next week. It don't matter. You get so you
get to fuck in the NFL, and it's like yeah,
now I feel like it's where you realize like your

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livelihood is now in question. Like if you don't play
well long enough, it will end for you. And in
college it's like, well, I have next year, I can
develop do this. But when you get to the NFL
and you start starting and you don't have a game,
and you feel like you're on display because it is
the NFL, Like, dude, it sucked, and it would sucked
worse than having a bad game and knowing it a
bad game and reading it, because it's like you're just

(01:12:58):
validating what you already know. It's when you go and
you have a well you believe was a good game
and you go to that search bar and people are like, yo,
Lawan got toasted by the guy. I'm thinking of myself,
what the fuck are you talking about? Like you're legit
just mad about it for whatever reason like this, And
then you want to respond, you fucking with a reply button,
You type out some nasty shit and then you hit
the delete, you know, like I can't let people know

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I'm the search amount.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
They make you start getting in your head on like, man,
I wonder if the coaches feel this way too, because
they're not gonna sit there and will write They're not
gonna write it publicly. They're going to talk to you, like, hey,
let's go to the next play. But then they're going
to be in staff meetings. You all know what goes
down to staff meetings, right, So all the shift festers
in your head and it's dangerous. It's a dangerous game
out there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
We had a I had. I had a coach assistant
offens line coach for like pretty the whole time I
was at the Titans, Mike Sullivan. And anytime I ran
into these like insecurities of like am I fucking not
who I think I am? I would just go to
him and he would tell me point blank, Hey, this
is what you're doing right, this is what they're saying
about you, this is what you need to do better.
And he would whether it was good or bad, it was.

(01:13:58):
He was like my little safety net for nine years,
which was awesome to have. I mean, that was that
was good. Do you remember you were there in twenty eighteen, right, yeah,
twenty eighteen. I was suspended for a PD for four games.
The first game I came back, we played the Bills.
After that game. There's like coaches like have like notes
and stuff like that they put on their iPad for

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whatever reason. Mike Rabel's notes got leaked and that locker
room the next day because we were reading we were two,
and we were two and two, two and two, and
then we went two and three, so we started two
and three. We ended up starting to get the season
two and four before they mentioned Marcus. But that after
that game, I think it was like play three and

(01:14:40):
it was a Mike Rabel note says seventy seven, why
are we paying him this this much?

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
Was like.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
And you just you got it and I didn't even
know about it. It was like, I think, well, Ben
always was in thee Dennis. Dennis knew about it, and
so guys were saying, like, oh, these notes are going on.
His notes are going around, and I'm thinking, man, people
probably getting murdered on that. And I think one of them,
Dennister Bench, showed me that note, and you could have
I could have dropped dead right there. The worst feeling

(01:15:09):
in the world, because I'm already suspended. I feel like
I've just ruined the team the season. I remember like
talking with the team. I can't being like I'm suspended ball.
I came out like the day before camp started, but
like addressing the team and all that, and then you go,
there's all these things like Taylor's gonna save the season
when I come back, which was like a great compliment,
but then my hand of like, there's no fucking way

(01:15:29):
a left tackle saving a season because we're two and two,
and then it come out have like three penalties a
bunch of bullshit, and then I see that comment, bro, terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Of the worst feelings.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Man, it was awful. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
It was a fantasy football like kind of your point,
like I have a good game, like where I helped
our team win, but in fantasy football, I didn't do
squat for your team, But in actuality I would have.
I had four catch for we'll say twenty seven yards,
but three of those catches were four were first down
conversions in the fourth quarter as we're driving, so you

(01:16:06):
know those are that's good for us. But people are like,
I'm benching you. You suck, like you're so washed, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
Like, the skill players do have to deal with crazy
to deal with us too, because we've started.

Speaker 4 (01:16:19):
Oh buddy, I'll walk around the sideline and I would
say like, hey, going, you know I need two more
out of you right now?

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
Down three points?

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
Know about that two screens right there that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Yeah, that's all you need. That's all you That has
got to be a crazy fucking thing to deal with.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
It's gnarly, man, and thankfully, like you just I also think, like, okay,
most of these people probably weren't watching the Detroit Lions
game because it probably wasn't on for one, so they
don't really know what they're talking about. They just see numbers.
And if you just look at pure numbers, four for
twenty eight twenty seven yards ain't good unless you tutown
right and they're gonna cut it and then they lose

(01:16:56):
by point twenty five. I'm feeling like you know, but
part but see, it's it's a double side of the sword
because when we help your fantasy team, we love reading
about it, like yeah, we're all interacting with the comments,
and then when we screw your fantasy team, you think
I care about your fantasy team team, like we contradicting

(01:17:18):
each other.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Dude, I remember, like was it Todd Gurley he was?
I mean, this is always like a strategic thing, but
like him stopping like you're in a four minute type
of situation and they the defense lets you score, and
he would stop on like the one yard line and
fantasy players across the board would be so mad at Todd.
And I'm pretty sure Todd had a little tweet that
came out. I was like, fuck your fantasy team, just
like sent that into the universe and it was like, Yo,

(01:17:39):
Todd's a fucking gangster for that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
Yeah, you are are his I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
So bummed for guys like him because that's a that's
a light that shines so bright but went out so quickly.
I remember playing him in like Twin.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
It is funny what he's ever seen you in public?
Were fist fighting over your fantasy football performance this year
and Todd Gurley pull up there. There was a receiver
teammate that was showing me his d MS, and the
receiver teammate was essentially threatening this dude's life, saying he
will go to his house and kill him. No ship
ye talking about you play.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
I don't know you're that on.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
No, but that ship is up.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
If I've had people pop into my DMS, I've even
had him do it on my like timeline, like Hey,
I hope your mom gets raped and I hope you
get to watch your sisters get killed.

Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
And I'm like God over a fantasy performance.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Yes, Like I'm like, dude, you had to come find
you don't even follow me, You had to come search
my name. Then you had to type it all out
and make sure grammatically it was probably correct, and you
still chose to hit sin. You got to have a
different type of You got to be bad for a
long time versus fantasy team bub. You got some stuff,
some dems you need to address at home.

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
Yeah, people will get that way too, because you can
make you know, everybody can like have a burner get
behind your profile is just like not real, Yeah, I
mean like you don't know who the person is.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
You ever thought about creating like a little burner profile
and just firing back at the little dickheads and come in?

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
I think Will's got like three or four Yeah, will
confidence bulge Little confidence bulges out there? Man, what other one?
Any pro Will Compton ones? You can probably they're They're
easy to find.

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
I thought it could be fun, but just to clear
the air, I do not have a burner. I'm just
letting people know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
Certain occasions and I was probably close to doing it,
but then I knew myself, I'm gonna slip up and
I'm gonna send a I'm gonna send one from my
actual count.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
Right, do it?

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
That is crazy?

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
That I mean the burner thing. We got a guy
that works for us. He's bigger the burner game, big
into the burner game. But he'll go on his burners
and have arguments with himself. He'll go, he'll tweet something
from his and then his burner will come in and
say something. Then he'll say something back. There is there's
Will Compton right there.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
Coon's bulls. I want to say, is that the one
that got creative? When we were all together and I
was trying to figure out who it was because you
guys were talking about burners earlier in the day and
I was hell bent at one of these dudes.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
Was one of our boys?

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
Yeah, because they were talking about a burner early in
the day and then later that night where we get
we get snacks from a gas station. We're all sitting
around chilling, I think, watching a movie or something. Then
Will Compton's bulge pops up, and I'm thinking, which one
of you motherfucker's creating?

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Yeah, Doggy, the internet is an unruly place.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
Did uh getting traded to Philly? Did you have any
idea that that trade was coming from Detroit.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
No, yeah, what's that process? Like, bro, Yeah, because we
got to get into your career. You had a hell
of a career.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
Bout it. Thank you, thank you. So check me out.
So it's like a Monday or something, or maybe even
a Tuesday. Actually, let's go rewind. Friday before game, they
offered me a deal, which was a low ball deal,
and it's like the second off firm. Like I respectfully declined.
I think I'm more valuable than that. Look what I've done.
I haven't missed any games. I've been in the community

(01:21:00):
like I've had several thousand.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
And leading up to this point. You're in a good
relationship with Detroit.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
Absolutely absolutely, and then they're hold on to that. But
he's about to be thirty. But I haven't played like
a thirty year old, not once I've been on the field.
I hadn' missed the game in six seven years. So
they offered me the deal on Friday. I don't accept it.
I go play on Sunday and I have a pretty
decent game. I believe I come back on a Monday
or Tuesday. I met the doctor's appointment and I see

(01:21:28):
Bob Quinn on my phone. I'm like, hey, what's up.
I'm like, hey, you're gonna offer me something good. It
must be so good that he wanted to call and
tell me what it was himself before my age got
to me. Hey, Bob Quinn or Quinn, Hey, hey Golden,
how you doing. I'm good. Just leaving the doctors appointment.

(01:21:49):
I was just calling to like, let you know that
we've decided to trade you to the Philadelphia Eagles, and
you know, we're just super grateful for what you did
for us and just wanted to kind of make sure
it's okay. What and I said, uh, okay, thank you

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for everything. Not knowing what to say, I'm in shock,
and so I hang up the phone. I'm just like
my first thing was like, let's go. I'm going to
the Philadelphia Eagles and just won the Super Bowl last year, Like,
you know, our record Detroit wise is crappy. Anyway, I'm
gonna go with over there, ball out, get paid again.

(01:22:32):
Let's go. But then as I think about it, damn, dude,
I gotta be on a plane tonight. I gotta go
figure out when I'm aware. Tonight, I gotta hop on
a plane to do a presser. I gotta dive right
into the playbook. I gotta figure out where I'm where
I'm gonna live. I gotta pack up this house. I
gotta learn a whole new offense. I gotta learn my teammates.

(01:22:56):
I gotta learn how to get to the facility, how
to get to Lincoln Financial. This is overwhelming. I'm not
and I don't even get a chance to say bye,
Like I don't get to go into the locker room
and say what Staff and Kenny and Joy and all
the homies and like, bro, they just traded me. And
so I did do this. I did drop my own trade.
I dropped it myself and not you know, Sheefard didn't

(01:23:18):
get the it's been real Detroit flag was fly or
something like that. But you know, I went from excited
to like, dang, what's what's really about to happen? Now?
Like I've been here for four and a half years
and I thought maybe I was want to spend the
rest of my career here, And yeah, we were dog

(01:23:38):
shit right now record wise, but these are my boys
and I'm just brand new. Just like bye, tomorrow you're
in you know, you're the pressor tonight tomorrow you're getting
your playbook, you're doing physicals, and then boom, it's just
like it was over. It was over, so like I
remember just being like, man, how do you guys do this?
And then even like I got I got lucky because

(01:24:00):
they played the London game that Sunday and so they
had the week off right, so I got the bye
week right then and there, which was nice. So I
got more time to study.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
The already have a bye week, Yes, I got two weeks, I.

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
Think, yeah, And so you know, and so I get
on I get on side, get the playbook, and now
I'm like, all right, here we go. Never dealt with
this before because I've been four years of Detroit sorry,
four years with Seattle and then four and a half.
That's all. I hadn't had to bounce around and do
that midseason jump. Man, it is so hard because the

(01:24:36):
show has to go on. Like it's not like you
get to run these reps over and over, and it's
not like you're starting quarterback wants to stay after practice
the middle of the season and just keep banging balls
just so you can get the feel. And so it's
like I had to try to figure it out and.

Speaker 4 (01:24:53):
No chance to really process emotions either.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
Because no, right, and then so it was it was
just a lot. It was a lot. It was a lot.
I mean to put it in like terms of like
other jobs, like can you imagine just showing up you know,
we'll just use showing up here. This is where the
studio is, this is where you guys do it. And
then tomorrow someone tells you, hey, thank you for everything.

(01:25:18):
We're shipping you guys off to Wisconsin to do the
show and you'll figure it out and thank you. Just
just boom like that and you're working tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
Ye give me think Yes in Wisconsin, Karrett, we appreciate
everything you've done.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
Yeah, we just trade you to the pivot.

Speaker 4 (01:25:41):
You got a pressor tonight you'll be all in, all
ends on deck tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
Did you ask the gam what what they got for you?
Because I feel like that's where kind of the ego
can kind of rest and be like, Okay, they got
a third for me, that's solid.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
They got a conditional third, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Or how what does a condition?

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
I don't know. I guess if you play x amount
of snaps or produce x amount, you get it, and
if you don't, you don't. I never I didn't look
into it. Yeah, my plate was full. I had like
a ten month old, my daughter, my first born, and
then my wife was pregnant with our second, and so
it was just a lot. I was trying to just
get by day to day.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
Yeah, what it was a process Like for your family,
did they stay in Detroit and then you went and
finish out the season in Philly.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
My wife is a psycho in the and I mean
that in the best way possible. My wife, with a
ten month old and I don't know, seven months pregnant,
packed up that whole house in Detroit and we put
all of our stuff in storage, shipped whatever we want
to ship to and like she's a superhero. I couldn't

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Like that was just my life. Saw I looked at
her like the first time dealing with it, Like that's
just what people do. But now that I got three kids,
I've seen a bunch of people be pregnant, Like why
just like disappear for like a bunch of years when
they're having kids. Yeah, my wife was still on playing,
My wife was still coming to games. My wife was
packing up the house. She was still like you know,

(01:27:06):
she was probably like couldn't sleep at night. Because you
can't even move, but she was still getting done, and
I was like, I did not appreciate her way I
should have back then.

Speaker 4 (01:27:14):
And so I don't think any of us really appreciate
that type of stuff because we're also self absorbed in
our career of the NFL. Oh yeah, Like it's a
dream we've had since we were little. We're living our career.
We think everything around our world, relationships, everything should kind
of be catered around us because we get to play
in the NFL. But when you get out of it
and you're around motherhood and being a parent and trying

(01:27:35):
to be intentional, you see all the shit that goes
into it to where it's like you you end up
having a different appreciation for it because you're so consumed
by the career when you're in it, and then when
you get out of it, you kind of it's like
a completely different perspective.

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean you didn't have a case
still after the NFL, but like you did. It Really
is that, like you're so absorbed and what you have
going on in your own life that a lot of
times it's like love to do this, honey, but I
have to go train for X Y and Z. I
have to go to practice, I have to stay up
late and watch this film and those types of things
and a lot of In a lot of ways, your
kids when they're that young, take a back seat because

(01:28:10):
of how much you're involved in because it doesn't last forever.
It's got to be you know, you've got to make
the most of it because when it's over. I mean,
there's nothing worse than sitting back, I'm assuming sitting back
and like looking at your career and being like I
wish I did more. Yeah, you know, I wish I
was more involved or took it more seriously or any
of that stuff. Because there's a lot of guys out
there that still can't get over the fact that they're

(01:28:31):
not in the league anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:28:33):
That ship breaking news. Frank ragnow of the Lions, has
officially retired. Shit Frank minutes ago, he posts on Instagram.
So he's he's done.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
No ship, Yeah, Frank. Hell of a career, Frankie.

Speaker 3 (01:28:49):
Yeah out of Arkansas, right, Yeah, I don't know where
he was.

Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
Yeah, because he's had he's kind of had some injuries. Yeah,
he's he's a dog.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
He is a hell of a player. He was on
bustle with the boys early during COVID times. Yeah, gotta
get him back on. Yeah, lots of free time.

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
Yeah, I've tried to convince myself that I'm feeling good,
but I'm not, and it's time to prioritize my health
and my family's future. Good for everything.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Damn had to because I know when we were there
last year in camp, he was dealing with a couple
of things. Yeah, and he got hurt early in the
year because he said, yeah, you get a big toe.
OUCHI I got.

Speaker 3 (01:29:32):
I got arthritis in both of my big toes.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
Dude, No Ship, Yes, I think it's a big skill
position thing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
Getting tackled from behind because no one can catch me
and like just being tackled and your just foot's always
like this, it's over and over. So like I get arthritis.
I got like permanent turf toe. Probably I get up
every morning, I'm like I have to pop it and
stuff Like, No Ship is pain every single morning, every
single morning. But like that's what football is. Like, that's

(01:30:02):
all I know. Like on days I on days that
I feel good, I'm like I'm not doing something right right,
and it's it's kind of messed up and so like,
I don't even know what it feels like to feel
good every day.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
There's a weird thing. There was a weird thing for me,
at least. I don't know if you feel this way.
But when I would get to camp, it's the best
I felt off of the air.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
You get over the off season, you're get in really
good shape. You got yourself in nice ten. The body
feels fantastic, You're in great condition, you're safe. You do
the conditioning test, and then the first couple of days
of practice you just feel off because you feel too good.
And then once I would like feel like shit a
little bit, get a little more grumpy, a little more
sleep deprived. That's when I was like, Okay, now I'm

(01:30:41):
in football. Now I can get that caloust on a
little bit. The headache starting to go away, But the
rest of my shoulder hurts a little bit. When I
wake up, knees hurting. This is hurting. That's when I
feel like, ok Now I can operate as a football player.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
Yees special heavy with my legs heavy. This is what
football feels.

Speaker 4 (01:30:56):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
First, the first two days, I'm excited to go to
seven olds, having in one on ones. I'm I'm like
a gazill bouncing around, and then day three hits, I'm like, ship.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
It's really that first week of pads, that first week
of you can get. Once you get through that, it's
like Cam ready, Cam, I'm starting to feel like.

Speaker 4 (01:31:15):
The next is to just wearing a helmet around and running.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
Yeah, because really that dude, you your brain, your head
forgets wearing a helmet six months, but you'll be training
all off season.

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
But like.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
All all the turns and everything towels. Yeah, yeah, always.
But as soon as you get like a weekend, you're like,
all right, I feel solid. Being a little bit hurts
kind of like yeah, the way you know you're ready.

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
Yeah, who's uh? Who's a receiver that you coming up?

Speaker 5 (01:31:42):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:31:42):
You wanted to mimic your game after I had, because
you're like a scrappy, tough, fast, You're like all the stuff,
not too tall, not you know, like when I watch
your game, it reminds me of a lot of like
a like a Pierre gar soone, like a very physical receiver.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
Yeah, like young Will Compton in high school.

Speaker 4 (01:31:59):
Yeah, young.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
The best way to put it, yeah, yeah, it's the
best way to put it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
I was look Percy Harvin. I just loved his game.
I mean, he was only a little bit older than me.
But then you went to Hines Ward and Steve Smith.
I knew those dudes. Those zuos weren't giants, but they
were tough as nails and they were going to be
out there on the field and they were going to
make Like unless you met those guys, you would have

(01:32:25):
thought they were like six one six y two. They
played bigger than their size, and I knew that. Look,
I don't have like the four to two speed. I'm fast,
but not fast like that. I'm not six to one
with you know, this wing span of six and a
half feet, and so I just kind of had to
like find my way. And my way was going to
be like I'm going to catch anything that comes my way, contested,

(01:32:47):
wide open, I'm going to catch the ball. And once
I get the ball, I am no longer a receiver.
I am a running back. And so I'm gonna treat
like my first catch my last catch. I'm gonna treat
them all like they're my last cat. Like I'm trying
to score every single time I touched the ball. I
didn't go out of bounds until you know I got
the giants when we're like two and a hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
Tell when business made most sense?

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
YEA, yeah, it's not doing anything. So like I just
I played the game like, man, I gotta I gotta
separate myself. And I've always been a person like how
do you separate yourself from everybody else's doing it? And
to me, breaking tackles yards after to catch that was
my thing.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
When you, uh, how did you become and get to
that realization of like being that aware of yourself and
who you were as a player. Because a lot of
kids when they're in high school, they feel like they're
the tallest, the strongest, the fastest, and even if it's delusional,
they still feel that way. What was like a realization
for you to be like, this is how I need
to operate to be this successful.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
It never was or I never realized that. I just
showed up every day trying to like every single time
I just touched the ball try to score with it.
And I was always I always looked at angles, like
I knew that I was not probably going to to
just outrun someone on the football field holding the ball,
so I would look for angles. I tried to find

(01:34:06):
angles and then I just I kind of mastered that,
I would say I had. I took a lot of
pride in my lower body strength. I knew that I
needed to try my best not to get tackled by
one guy. Ever, it needed to take three four guys.
And I also look AJ you know AJ Brown and
or AJ Green and Julio. Those guys can go down

(01:34:29):
the field and make those plays. But I can get
there by you throw me a higher percentage pass and
I'll figure my way to get to the same destination
and make it probably look a little bit cooler, you know,
making guys miss and breaking tackle. So that was just
kind of my game, and just I never really even
thought about it. I was just always looking for what's next?
What is more? Like in high school, it was like,

(01:34:52):
all right, I'm playing high school. Can I play college?
All right, Well, I had an opportunity to play college. Well,
now playing college, can I win the Heisman or get
the blatantkoff? Which I ended up getting the blittantk cough
the only one in Notre d in history so far? Okay,
well I did that. Well, Now can I play NFL football? Yes,
I'm drafting the second round Okay, can I help my

(01:35:15):
team win a Super Bowl? Can I go to the
Pro Bowls? Can I be known, you know, make myself
a household name. I had an opportunity to do all
of those things, and so I just kept trying to
find out what's next, What's next? What's next? All right?
Can I play a decade? Yeah? Played a decade? All right? Well?
Can I get to fifteen years? Well? I got to eleven,
and you know that was kind of it. But I

(01:35:36):
was always fighting for something I wanted more.

Speaker 4 (01:35:38):
What was it like playing in Seattle? I mean you
you played on a fucking loaded roster, loaded roster.

Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
Boom man, Seattle was so much fun. Man, Being a
young kid out of Notre Dame, out of the Midwest,
being shipped to the Pacific Northwest, didn't even know where
it was on the map, and getting there, having Pete
Carroll who just left SC and like, yeah, just a
fun players coach. Everything's competitive, That's what I am. Competitive.
My We're working up in the morning and meetings, having

(01:36:06):
free throw contest contests and auditorium everything is competition. I
loved it. We're having special guests like Will Ferrell come
to us, Rob Regular or whatever name, Who's pow Jay
Rice coming. I mean just having all these people come
in the tech boom is in the middle of the
tech boom, Microsoft and Costco and uh, all these Twitter

(01:36:31):
and all these people are in Seattle. They love their sports.
They absolutely love their sports. I don't care if it
was baseball or a football game. They're sold out. And
so we were. I was there at a great time,
and so being a part of the one and only
Super Bowl that they won was special. And then like
the personnel we had, dude, come on, the personality Richard Sherman,

(01:36:55):
Cam Chancellor, Earl Thomas, Chris Clemens, Red Bryant, uh uh,
Bobby Wagner, right, Randon Browner. Then in an offense union
you had me, Russell Duck, Angry Duck Baldwin, Jermaine Curse,

(01:37:16):
Mark money Lynch. I mean we had a time every
time we stepped on the field, and then we even
we enjoyed it afterwards. Bro, I mean coach Coach Carroll's always, hey,
don't make ship up. Whatever your routine is, do it.
And my routine I was going out every Friday night,
period and if I didn't go out, I feel like

(01:37:38):
I was gonna have a bad game.

Speaker 4 (01:37:39):
No ship, Yes, go out get saut Friday night before
a game.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
Go out, get saut so so bad that I'm showing
up to the next day walk through that I can still.
I can smell it for one and I'm still I'm
still a little bit shaky. But I'm young. I'm young.
I can get out. I can I'm young. So you know,
me and my girlfriend at the time, my wife, now,
we were we're getting after baby. Wee can after we
not we're not making anything up. Coach Carrol didn't go

(01:38:09):
out there ball out on a Sunday Sunday night. We're
going out to celebrate then, O my god.

Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
Yeah, but I was animal.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
I couldn't do it now or you know, I couldn't
do it. You know, die four years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:38:22):
Die.

Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
It takes me five days just to feel decent.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
Yeah, I mean, bro like that. That's Seattle, that time
in Seattle. Pete Carroll. Every person I've ever talked to
about Pete is like one of the best coaches they've
ever had, the most fun coaches to be around. We
had clay On he was talking about it. I went
to a junior camp at USC and I was I
met him I loved usc. I was all about it.
Went to shake his hand, slaps my hand out of

(01:38:47):
the way. It gives me a big hug. The minute
he hugged me, I was like, offer me for the
love of God, I swear to God, will commit right now. Yes,
and they didn't. But it was like just being around
that guy for a short amount of time and then
hearing everybody talk about him the way he is. He
has to be, so we maybe number one, do you
think he'll be successful in the Raiders?

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
They'll be better than they have been, for sure, without
a doubt. It's just, man, look what you got to
go against. You got to go against some Hall of
Fame coaches and players. You got to see o Andy
and Pat twice a year. Hardballs turned that place around too.
Herbert's a good quarterback. Mayden and Bownicks. Bownicks you know

(01:39:27):
they coming. And so it ain't like it when you
was in Seattle. You know, we had the forty nine
ers deal with and the other two teams were kind
of whatever. You know whatever, Man, that whole division is strong.
Yeah you're and by the way, you're in Las Vegas, Okay,
you're in Las Vegas. A twenty two year old just

(01:39:48):
gave a.

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
Fifty back to would you have survived in Vegas if
that's where you got drafted?

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
I mean it sounds like no, I'm the same way
I would have made it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:59):
I'm so great grateful that God put me in Seattle
where there was something to do. There's enough to do,
Like I would have gone crazy going to like Appleton,
Wisconsin or something.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
I mean, what's the difference with that in South in Indiana?

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
Well, I was, you know, there's not much, but but look,
I didn't have no money back then. True, I had
no money, and you had. You had a whole school
full of people that loved you. Appleton. You know, I wouldn't.
I would have been I would have had more money
because I had nowhere to spend it. Yeah, state restaurant,
that's about it, or maybe some booths and talking.

Speaker 1 (01:40:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
So I'm grateful that I went to Seattle when I
went there, because if I'd have went to New York
or probably even Arizona or Vegas. I guess they didn't
have Vegas. They wouldn't. It would have been some missues probably.

Speaker 1 (01:40:42):
I mean even here, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:40:43):
Yeah, in front of you too.

Speaker 1 (01:40:45):
Oh yeah, dude getting drafted here and then learning about Broadway,
and then I didn't really know about Tennessee, and then
I got judged by Tennessee. Then everyone I knew was
a massive fan of coming to Tennessee. Apparently, just being
down on Broadway the first six months, it's just like, Yo,
this is a magical place. This is unbelievable. Just get
ship faced. People are so proud of you for throwing

(01:41:06):
up in the alley and not in the bar.

Speaker 4 (01:41:08):
Good for you, man.

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
You're a real pro at this, aren't you. So I
remember being hammered by first fourth of July and they
had this big party going on, and I'm stumbling behind
like where the rhymen is, stumbling behind those those first
set of bars and behind this. I don't know if
it was it was Tootsies. Some dude opens he goes, hey,
your tailor of one? Right. I was like kind of
like stones, like, hey, it goes kid rocks up here,

(01:41:30):
about to do a little concert if you want to
come up. So I like stumble my way up there.
I'm just sitting there watching fucking the American badass get
after it. Hammered on fourth of July. I'm like this
is How can you fucking go anywhere else?

Speaker 3 (01:41:42):
I feel so American being hammered right off Buddy Lights
watching kid Rock.

Speaker 4 (01:41:48):
I mean, for July.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
Can you beat it pure?

Speaker 3 (01:41:52):
You can't know, you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:41:53):
It's fucking unbelievable, unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (01:41:57):
You ever go to Printer's Alley when it was yeah,
a couple of time. Yeah, I used to go there
were growing up, used to hang out at. I was
the mumbroom guy. Yeah, Like I used to go to
Tin Roof. I come back after college early in my years,
and I stayed at It was called the Rhythm. It
was like the condo literally right next to Yeah. I

(01:42:18):
don't know what it is now, but I remember them
trying to sell me this eight hundred and five square
foot place for like three hundred and seventy five thousand dollars.
I was like, Nope, not happening. Now I look back,
I wish I would have done it, but I remember
I rented it for a little bit. I used to
look down to Tin Roof on a Wednesday, Thursday, Monday.
Do that matter? Okay, I see a few homies out there,

(01:42:38):
I go on down go have a few. I don't know,
let's see I was doing vodka and cranberries back then.
Nice found a few of those on a Monday. See
what happens. Go down to the next bar, maybe go
over to midtown Winters Losers, Yes, I love is that
where the bushwhackers are?

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
Bushwackers are there? Yep, they have the bushwhackers there. But
I think, uh, another place in Demomity does the bushwhackers
as well. I can't remember right now, but.

Speaker 3 (01:43:08):
Yes, Losers has Virago.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
Get the little steak on the hot rock. Sit there.
You're really living. You're really living when you come to
a place like this. Then you think about those guys
in Wisconsin and you're just like, man, what the fuck
do they do of that?

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
I remember almost getting drafted by the Lions, thinking of myself,
Please God, don't take me, because the Lions were just
historically about that are the lines with no one love now?
But I spent four years in Michigan. I was ready
to get out and see the rest of the world.
When Tennessee happened on my Southwest flight there my first day. God,
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that's cash App. Let's get back to the episode. Well
you were you surprised your second round pick being a
blatant akough winner first one and noted at a prestigious
blue chip university like Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (01:44:41):
You know, I believed in myself and I thought at
that time I should have been a first rounder, but
I knew everyone was. Mel Kiper was all you know,
all those guys were saying, hey, he's a late first round,
early second. So I thought somewhere between twenty eight and
I guess thirty eight was my sweet spot. I felt
like I was willing to bet whatever I was gonna

(01:45:02):
go there. And the reason was because well, they had
said that for one and two Kansasity Chiefs had two
picks in the first like six or seven picks of
the second round. That's where Charlie Weiss went literally left
the same time he got fired. He went to Kansas
City and I had a meetings with them, and they

(01:45:23):
were telling me. He was telling, hey, I'm gonna make
a push to get you. I'm get you. And so
you know, I get to you know, I get past
day one and I'm not no biggie, I'm going to
first six, seven, eight picks. Day two. We're gonna get
this thing. Party started. And they picked Dexter mccluster from
Ole Miss and it was like a slap in my

(01:45:45):
face because I mean, we're similar enough players, right, I
mean he's a smaller guy, you know, receiver, kind of
higherbrid and they went with Dexter mccluster, and I was like,
what in the actual just happened? And so I sit
there thinking I'm going to first eight picks, and I
sit this. I went sixtieth overall, and so that's like

(01:46:05):
the majority of the second round. And I'm just sitting
over at the Millennium Hotel or whatever or wherever we were,
and I'm just like all my homies around, you know,
everyone's like looking around, like thankful I didn't get a
prank call like sure Der Sanders yet, because I'd even
lost my stuff. And finally I get this call. I
don't know, it's either four or five or two o

(01:46:27):
five or four two five or two o six number,
and I'm like, who is this telemarket or something? And
they call me and he's like, hey, Golden, this is
Pete Carroll. I'm like, but don't you coach at USC.
I didn't even know he accepted the job at this point,
and you know, I just I remember you torturing us
and tearing us up, and I figure, I don't want

(01:46:48):
to go against you anymore. I want you on our team,
and so we're going to take you with that next pick.
And I'm like, oh, this is awesome. Where where is Washington?

Speaker 4 (01:46:57):
Is that DC?

Speaker 3 (01:46:59):
No? Washington State?

Speaker 4 (01:47:01):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:47:02):
Way over there? The farthest way we can get away
from home is that's where you're going. But you know,
they took a chance on me, and it was the
best thing that could ever happen. If I can do
it all over again, I will go exactly where I went,
at the exact position I went, and wouldn't change your things.

Speaker 4 (01:47:19):
What happened when your contract came up with the with
Seattle and you're going to free agency and signed with Detroit?
Like we were you dealing with with Seattle? Did they
offer you? Why do you feel like it didn't work
out for like a second deal with them?

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
They they gave me a deal that was some BS
laughable deals what I called it back then. But this
is my first time going through it. I never even
heard what the deal was. It's just my agent was like, yeah,
I'm not eve gonna waste your time with this, and
we said no. And then Detroit comes in and offers
like a five for thirty four thirty six. I was like, Yeah,

(01:47:54):
let's do it. They got Matthew Stafford, who's a heck
of a player. They got Megatron, who's so I'm gonna
get fed. I'm gonna be seeing twos and threes you know,
cornerbacks where he's getting double on triple covered. I'm gonna
just sit on the backside and eat him, eat him apart,
and which is what happened. But ultimately, going back to
the Seattle thing, they had just paid Percy Harvin. They

(01:48:15):
gave him a sixty bag that same free agency, the
one before, the one before, and it was on my mind, like, man,
y'all really gonna pay this dude, Like we're similar enough.

Speaker 1 (01:48:26):
Like so many you look he looked up to before.

Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
Right right, and you know, he's explosive, fast, quick all
the same time, Like I've seen guys who have two
or three, but he was fast, quick and explosive, and
I was like, it was just like fun watching him.
But he only played like two games that season. And
so then I'm like, all right, well, maybe they're gonna
go ahead and pay me because he's injury prone and
blah blah blah all over the same people, and they

(01:48:50):
chose him over me ultimately, and so I go my
step away and end up cutting him or trading him
away the second year of his contract.

Speaker 4 (01:48:58):
No shit, Yeah, dude, was he in it issue in
the locker room. I've heard different stories and as matter
of fact, he told a story on what is the guy?
What is the show? I hate with the pool table
and yeah, bleacher report Master, shut up the boy master.
But he was talking about you guys getting in like
an altercation. I want to say, we had uh John
Johnson on our team in Washington. Yes, he spoke about

(01:49:19):
a vagas. It sounded like something happened either the week
or the day before the Super Bowl. Yes, you and Percy.

Speaker 3 (01:49:26):
Yes, yes, let's get into the juices boys, let me
readjust this, Mike, come on, let me go all right.
So all right, so first off, Percy, Percy's a different guy. Okay,
he's a different guy, and something goes off in his
mind and once he makes his decision, ain't no going back.

(01:49:47):
So as long as you still on his good side,
you're chilling. He's awesome. But the moment you get on
his backside, there's no getting back to the other side.
And so going to Super Bowl. We get to the
Super Bowl and you know, you get all the media, Yeah,
and they're asking these questions and they asked all of us,
the receivers, and they asked me and say, hey, so
what does it mean to have Percy Harvin back or

(01:50:09):
some along that line. I was like, you know what,
I love Percy's game. I think he's awesome. But the
truth of matter, we hadn't had Percy the entire year,
and we made it this far. We can't wait to
get him out there because he's definitely gonna make us
even better. But look, we've we've we've done it without him.
We're we're fine. And at some point he read the article.

(01:50:31):
Someone read the article and told him the bullet points
and he took huge offense to it. And at the
time I didn't know this. So we show up on
a Saturday before the game on Sunday and I'm just
the day before, yes, bro, and I'm just saying, what's up, Percy,
what's up Sid all my homies, and Percy just kind
of got this look on us. He just got this
look like like I'm just not having a good day.

(01:50:53):
I'm like, Bro, you're good, he said, I'm cool, I'm cool.
Just just give me some give me some time, all right.
So we go through meeting and you know, walk throughs
or whatever it is, and then I go to my Percy. Bro,
I have no clue person, you straight, bro, like we
got the biggest game of our life tomorrow, Like, let's
you good? Can I can I help you? Like you

(01:51:14):
want to talk? No, bro, I'm not feeling.

Speaker 4 (01:51:17):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:51:18):
So now I'm starting to ask, like, dude, what is
going on with Percy? Like is he straight? I go
to talk to Citney Rights, who's his boy from Minnesota.
They're best friends, bestc boys, and you know, he kind
of tells me like, hey, there's some article out that
he read, blah blah blah blah, and I don't even
have time to go look it up. So finally I
go back up to Percy. He's sitting He's sitting just

(01:51:38):
like this in front of his locker, and I get
like loaded. I get loaded the ground like this, like hey, Percy, brouh,
Like what's going on? Like let's just let's just chop
it up, talk to it. He's like bruh, And he says,
you don't get the fuck up at my face? And
I just said, all right, fuck it, and I just
turn around and start walking other way, and next thing
you know, boom tackles me from behind. And I guess

(01:52:04):
apparently I ended up in a clothes hamper, but I
don't know. But he taxed me from.

Speaker 4 (01:52:07):
Behind the equipment bend.

Speaker 3 (01:52:09):
Yeah, like yeah, well, I got Jock Stot. He tackles
me in his head. It's like right here, and I
don't even know what's going on, but I let him.
My shoulder jacked up my neck and I just got
him here and I just started trying to punch him.
I don't know if I punched him or connected or
anything at all, but I was kind of holding him.
They pulled us apart. Pete Carroll, Josh Schneider, the GM

(01:52:33):
talked to me like what what what happened? And so
I tell him like what happened? And you know, they
deemed that I'm not the issue they select. They separate us,
and we go separated that day. We showed up the
next morning for the Super Bowl, and Percy acts like
nothing had ever even happened.

Speaker 4 (01:52:54):
No shit, what's up? GT? Like, how you doing? Brother?

Speaker 3 (01:52:57):
We're to get him? Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
let's let's just do this. I'm not about to do
this here right now. It's the biggest game of my life.
And so we play the game. You know, he takes
one to the house, We blow Denver out the water,
We go get after it. And rafter the game, he's
just like, gg I love you, bro, like my bad,

(01:53:18):
you know, I love you, just acting like nothing happened.
Like I'm like, well, we go to have a conversation.
I don't have to be a dable. We got to
have a conversation at some point, big dog.

Speaker 4 (01:53:24):
And so because you probably want to tell him like, hey,
I didn't mean it like that. I'm sorry if it
came off that way.

Speaker 3 (01:53:29):
Not at this point, you didn't. You didn't tackle me
and beat me up. I'm like, sugarcoat bullshit. Now I'm like, bro,
that's I'm just gonna keep it the buck. At this point.
The being civil part was like leading up to that,
and now I might be like, bro, what's what's what's happening?
But anyway, so we go through that whole part and
we I'm just like not controversial. So I'm like all right, whatever,

(01:53:49):
like but something right. We go. I go to Detroit,
we go to Seattle, We mee at the White House again.
What's up?

Speaker 4 (01:53:57):
Gold?

Speaker 3 (01:53:57):
Like, man, miss you?

Speaker 8 (01:53:58):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (01:53:59):
Like we missing out here. Bro, it ain't the same
without you. I'm just like yeah, and I go myself away.
And then referring to what mastro what's his name the
with the pool table?

Speaker 4 (01:54:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, master, whatever it is whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:54:13):
So then yeah, so then I hear about that, and
then it's all about like he paints a picture like
there was jealousy involved with him, and I was like,
not even a little bit, Bob, Like I can't imagine
having to deal with he had to deal with, like,
you know, the being hurt all the time and the migraines, Like,
there's no jealousy there. I'm just happy with what happened

(01:54:34):
with me and how I you know, ended up. And
so that was kind of that. And I haven't spoken
to Percy since then, and I haven't heard his name
mentioned by any of our buddies. Like I don't know
how he's doing. I hope he's doing okay, but that
that's kind of what happened. And it was like dang, I.

Speaker 4 (01:54:51):
Mean before the super Bowl, like, hey, what the fuck
are we doing him?

Speaker 1 (01:54:57):
What is happening right now?

Speaker 4 (01:54:58):
Like what?

Speaker 3 (01:54:59):
And so that's kind of that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:55:01):
So you never thought they're like, hey, I might as
well call this guy after I'm sure at this point,
like he tackled me the ground, I don't want to
talk to you.

Speaker 3 (01:55:07):
Yeah, it's like, man, I got enough going on. I
just got got the bag. I'm moved on. Like if
you really want to talk, like call me and we
can talk. But at the same time, like I'm not
one it's about to be like show up to him,
but like what's happening, Like I ain't forgot what you
did last summer? Yeah about, but I'm just like whatever, Man,
I got my bag, I got my ring, you got

(01:55:28):
you know, you got your bag. Whatever we are, everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:55:31):
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right now, but there's still a piece of here that's.

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Back to you. Now, you do have a you do
have a story out there where you do come out
like what's happening with Jalen Ramsey? Like Twitter going back

(01:56:51):
and forth. I know he's in your he's engaged with
your personal life and everything else. What's the because you
guys had the game October to where you guys are scrapping.
Wasn't that pregame after the game.

Speaker 3 (01:57:04):
It was during the game. It was after the game.
He was out there ready to go, and I was
with the smoke too. He ended up getting fined. I
didn't get fined, but man, that was a heated battle.
And so like, just so you guys have the backstory,
Like him and my one of my twin sisters have
two children together. They went to the same high school

(01:57:27):
and we have two beautiful, beautiful, beautiful nieces, Brooklyn and Breeling,
and they were together. Now, things happened within that relationship
where I don't think, I don't I don't think my
sister was done or treat the way she should have
been treated. And when that happens, who you gotta come see,
you gotta come see big bro, right, Yeah, And so

(01:57:50):
I think I mighta like made it public, like you know,
he gonna have to see me at some point, but
it wasn't to the point where I was about to
like like fight him on the field or anything. And
so I guess he took that personal.

Speaker 1 (01:58:02):
We get to so and you said, you you said
somewhere that he's gonna have to see me at some point. Yeah,
So that was a public that was a public statement
that you mad.

Speaker 3 (01:58:11):
Yeah. I can't remember if I tweeted or if I
said an interview, but let him know, like you got
to see me at some point. Now, it could be
we scrapping or we're gonna talk us out like two men,
but I'm gonna be ready for whatever happens. And so
he took that, and you know the media ran with
it like the big matchup because he's.

Speaker 4 (01:58:29):
Tweeted about the matchup, right yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:58:31):
Yeah yeah, And so you know, we get to the
game and I'm like, I really don't know what's about
to happen, but I got it. I got everything locked
in the chamber I got and this one, I got
all the verbals fights I need to have on this one.
I'm ready. I already got it. Uh and YouTube afew
kickboxing and karate videos.

Speaker 4 (01:58:48):
I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (01:58:50):
I'm ready. I to watch kill Bill a few times
we got uh. So we get out there and right away,
like first one, he's like over he jamming me, and
I'm like, okay, that's how we're gonna do. We're gonna
do so all right, I ain't cut blocked somebody in
a minute. I start, I don't even like the block
like that, but I ended up like trying to cut

(01:59:10):
his knees out like within the game, completely legal.

Speaker 4 (01:59:14):
Yeah, and then I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:59:15):
Cutting him and he's mushing my head into the dirt.
But like at the same time, like I'm mentally prepared,
like whatever I do, I cannot cost my team a
penalty or cost myself any money, so that that's in
my back pocket. I'm not gonna do that because that's selfish.
But I'm in his face. I'm talking my mess. He
talking his mess. He's doing a little bit extra freaking Uh, knucklehead,

(01:59:37):
didn't block on this play right here that we watch
it and got me.

Speaker 4 (01:59:47):
Because you got two physical players going at it. It
feels personal. It's all this stuff. It's all on the ground. Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:59:53):
Is that is that Dan Lewis?

Speaker 4 (01:59:55):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:59:56):
Oh no, yes, Bro, it's a screen mine that I
got to it. He know, he know we got to.

Speaker 1 (02:00:05):
When you hit the ground, you just saying, fuck this mother.

Speaker 3 (02:00:08):
I'm a damn postcard. I'm gonna be on a billboard.

Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
That's That's what I'm gonna be.

Speaker 3 (02:00:14):
On a billboard. And it didn't hurt. It wasn't even
that bad of a hit. It's just the optics of it.
It means he's lifted me, bro, you know he that's it.
That's it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
Get And it wasn't even got but that situation because
I what you just told us that I got got.

Speaker 3 (02:00:30):
And so you know, I'm thinking, like that's what we
want to deal with. And then after the game, the
game ends, you know, I run up there to like
to like expecting what's gonna happen, and he can find
me and I see I pop up because you know,
you know when Sucker punched me, period, So I go,
I'm seeing where her? Yeah, yeah, So I run. I
went right up to him my helmet on, and he swings,

(02:00:53):
He swings, but I know he's gonnawing, So I duck
and I want to dump him. And then that, you know,
you have everybody on us, and so they separate us,
and then.

Speaker 4 (02:01:02):
Everybody's probably watching both of.

Speaker 1 (02:01:03):
You before the game in the locker room.

Speaker 3 (02:01:08):
Yeah, I had homies like GT, I'm with you, I'm
round with you, bro, like look, I'm gonna be ready.
I'm ready at all times. I'm sure he had his
folks like hey, Jay, it's gonna happen. So, you know,
there's a lot to peel back in this relationship. But
at the end of the day, like I have two
amazing like nieces that I'm not I don't I don't

(02:01:31):
want them to be drug into this, and so I
think we both have. We haven't talked, but I think
we both have kind of just kind of agreed to
like not be knuckleheads for the betterment of his daughters
and his and my nieces. And so that's kind of
where we stand. But I did, oh my gosh, he

(02:01:53):
played at True Boy last week, pulled up and like so,
and obviously my community knows what kind of happened, and
like they're letting me know, like hey, by the way,
Jalen's coming coming up, cam Fordham's hosting them, and I'm like,
be ready for whatever. And so it's that there hadn't
been any communication, none, community all, none. At this point,

(02:02:16):
it's nighttime. He must have played all day and I'm
we're me and my kids are about to leave and
I'm holding the door and the only person there there
goes Jalen and he walks up to me and he said,
what's up, Gene. I just looked at him, like, what's up?

Speaker 4 (02:02:32):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:02:33):
I'm like, it's like I'm shaking your hand because you know,
I'm not that guy, But what's up? What's happening? And
he was like, he said, you got a spot out here?
I said, yeah, I got like four of them. He said, Oh,
that's cool, that's cool. And then he was just like,
we're gonna talk sometimes. He said, we're gonna talk, and
I said, yeah we should, Yeah we should. Actually I

(02:02:55):
put a little bit more basement. I said, yeah we should,
Yeah we should. And then that was kind of that.
And you know, we haven't had a conversation. We probably
should have a conversation. But you know, in this case,
I don't really think I did anything wrong. You know,
I didn't do him wrong. I feel like he did

(02:03:15):
my sister sisters wrong. Now, I will say this. I
will say this because I like to find the good
and people. I do think he has grown as a man.
I know that I've grown as a man. I know
I made mistakes as a young and as well, so
I do think he's gotten better. And so I do
provide grace in that area. But that's still baby sis.

Speaker 1 (02:03:36):
Right, Yeah, yeah, I mean you gotta I understand completely
why you gotten to that position one hundred percent. And
I'm sure I can understand why he got his position,
his story, his narrative, all that, and how you guys
ended up getting there. I would have loved to be
just you be walking about oh, shit, I would just
take a couple of steps better if I cannot wait

(02:03:57):
to watch this.

Speaker 3 (02:03:58):
I look back, I was like, Joe, what's up? Do
you good to see you?

Speaker 1 (02:04:01):
Man?

Speaker 3 (02:04:02):
How we doing all right?

Speaker 4 (02:04:03):
I was just like, yeah, yes, you talk.

Speaker 1 (02:04:07):
Yeah, yeah, he's just quiet.

Speaker 3 (02:04:10):
To come on in and have a drink hash this
out at the country club.

Speaker 1 (02:04:18):
Well, dude, I'm glad. I can't wait to hear you
guys have that conversation or hear how that conversation goes.
We know we got to get you out of here
and get a hard out bud like question.

Speaker 4 (02:04:26):
Oh my good gosh, I feel like I want to
ask I know what.

Speaker 1 (02:04:28):
I thought we can do this time. Sounds like based
on his his gambling experiences, you're going to be back
to do the locker room at least once this fall.

Speaker 3 (02:04:35):
I mean, I'm only down the road. It's only thirty
five minutes with no traffics, thirty three minutes, so it's
too easy.

Speaker 1 (02:04:42):
Boys, we have a absolute.

Speaker 4 (02:04:45):
Just follow everything he does, because he seems.

Speaker 1 (02:04:48):
Like the first yeah he's talking about you got to
make money in this business is how you do it.
We'll have a couple of parlays. You don't have to
jump on.

Speaker 4 (02:04:56):
Oh, he'll ride the parlor, but he'll laugh at us ntil.

Speaker 3 (02:05:00):
No, no, no, not just you know the parlays would
be like a fifty dollars parlay. Yeah, but then if
I believe in those other legs, those other legs will
be hammered.

Speaker 4 (02:05:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:05:09):
Yeah, so the parlay really won't your solo?

Speaker 3 (02:05:13):
Yeah around Robin.

Speaker 1 (02:05:15):
Bud like question, so everybody knows on this or anyone
would do anything for? A bud Light question for you
is what is anything? What would you do anything for?
I can't say family, go back and change something, dang
something about your future.

Speaker 4 (02:05:32):
Maybe it's a pickleball championship.

Speaker 3 (02:05:35):
Done that already you got.

Speaker 4 (02:05:38):
That's something I want to ask about.

Speaker 3 (02:05:40):
Yeah, man, I would say, uh, if I could redo it,
I would. I would give baseball a shot too, Like
I was drafted in baseball twice high school insane, yeah,
thank you out of high school and then also doing
my rookie season or after my rookie season by the

(02:06:00):
team ended up winning the World Series. By the way,
the San Francisco Giants won it that year. I remember thinking, like,
damn man, we were playing football. Could have had me
a ring. Little did I know. I was gonna get
my few years later, but I would give baseball a shot,
and I'd probably do anything to go through that grind.
You know, I'm happy with how life ended up, but

(02:06:22):
it's always that that what if, Like what if I
would have played baseball? Like what I made it to
the majors, What would have been my journey?

Speaker 1 (02:06:29):
What?

Speaker 4 (02:06:30):
You know?

Speaker 3 (02:06:31):
Who? What I would have met? You don't know, But
it's always like curious. I'm always curious, like what how
would it happened? So I would do that, say I
love it?

Speaker 4 (02:06:41):
What about? Like what rounds were you drafted in?

Speaker 3 (02:06:45):
I think the first time I found out through my
space actually that I was drafted in the forty second round.

Speaker 4 (02:06:53):
How many rounds are there?

Speaker 3 (02:06:55):
Back then it was fifty two or fifty that's just crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:06:58):
Yeah, it was a signing bus, a fifty second rounder
from the Arizona dieback man.

Speaker 3 (02:07:03):
Maybe a plane ticket, yeah, some.

Speaker 1 (02:07:06):
Cracker Jackson or a packet chewing gum.

Speaker 3 (02:07:09):
But see, they knew that I was going to Notre
Dame to play baseball and football, and then you know,
my rights had just been giving up over those next
three to four years, and so they someone else drafted
me just so they could have their rights. It's in
case like not that. Yeah, I mean, but I was
told that if I would have played baseball, would have
been a top eleven round pick. Because baseball drafts purely

(02:07:32):
on like potential. They can baseball, They feel like they
can teach you a lot of the things, especially hitting
for me, which is probably the weakest thing for me.
Like I can hit, but I couldn't hit Kurt balls,
and you can probably teach someone that. But what you
couldn't teach you couldn't teach my speed. You couldn't teach
my explosiveness. Right, And so that's kind of how they position.

(02:07:53):
Did you play anywhere in the outfield?

Speaker 4 (02:07:56):
Got the range?

Speaker 3 (02:07:57):
And I'd never played baseball because it was fun, Like
I never trained, I didn't go to camps. I played AAU,
but I didn't really put in time, like I didn't
work on all the arm exercises, and I didn't sit
in the cage and hit a thousand balls a day.
It was football season ended, all right, let's go play
baseball and I just go out there, seatball, hit ball.

Speaker 4 (02:08:17):
Did you play baseball at Notre Dame?

Speaker 3 (02:08:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:08:21):
Multi sport athlete.

Speaker 4 (02:08:23):
Yeah, And you say you want to pick a ball championship.

Speaker 3 (02:08:25):
May I've won a few, like celebrity events and club
championships and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (02:08:31):
You take it pretty serious.

Speaker 3 (02:08:33):
I do.

Speaker 4 (02:08:33):
And actually it's gonna say you got your.

Speaker 3 (02:08:35):
Uh you guys a gift.

Speaker 1 (02:08:37):
Trust.

Speaker 3 (02:08:38):
Yeah, this is my own actually hold on this my
own personal paddle. It's got the logo that I created
GT and that's a backwards three, but it also symbolizes
I'm the third but also it's I'm a godly man,
the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit, all the points
and the sweet spot of the paddle is right there

(02:08:59):
in the mid to where you see the cross. And
when I'm at my best in life, I'm hitting this
sweet spot over and over and that's when I'm I'm
executing to perfection. So that's what we call life over
here for us. And then on the other side, you
probably can't see it, but showtime and the eye is
actually me doing a first down move, but I'm holding

(02:09:21):
a pickleball paddle.

Speaker 1 (02:09:22):
So thank you, bro, Bro, this is awesome.

Speaker 4 (02:09:25):
He's got his own. Who are some good retired NFL
guys or retired athletes that you've came across in this
pickleball world? Because it seems like you're pretty good.

Speaker 3 (02:09:39):
Yeah, I like to I like to say, and I
could be wrong, but I'm like the best, like ex
athlete pickleball player. It's like until someone tells me otherwise
in the kitchen, you know, pickleball count WI can probably
confirm that. But Danny Wirfold is good. Eric Decker is
a lefty that's getting pretty good too. Randall Cobb is

(02:10:00):
on this journey.

Speaker 4 (02:10:01):
Both guys. Yeah, guys around here in California.

Speaker 3 (02:10:04):
You got a bunch of guys that play, and I
think it's one of those sports that that's growing between.
You know, pick a ball is a great one, but
another one that's fantastic.

Speaker 6 (02:10:15):
It's padell amazing played for the first time this weekend.

Speaker 3 (02:10:20):
If you got any athleticism and can move around a
little bit and reaction time, that's the game to play.
That is.

Speaker 6 (02:10:30):
Yeah, it's like rocketball and pickleball kind of mix.

Speaker 3 (02:10:33):
Yeah. You play it off the wall and off the glass.
You have to play angles. It's it's awesome, dude, And
so I've been playing that a lot lately over the
place called paddle House.

Speaker 1 (02:10:44):
What's your search history talking about here?

Speaker 8 (02:10:46):
But what.

Speaker 3 (02:10:51):
Can we talk about something I'm on busting with the boys,
and we're still getting.

Speaker 1 (02:10:54):
Ads yet run a business. Got to run a business.
So they okay, you can play off the glass and
everything like that.

Speaker 3 (02:11:03):
And it's a tennis ball. You play with pretty much
less pressure than a tennis ball, but it has to
hit the ground first and then it can hit the
chicken wire or the glass. You can play it off
of it. But when you hit the ball hard, sometimes
it bounces towards the net, which gives her the defense
the easy slam. And so it's a game of spins.

(02:11:25):
But it is so much fun, and I believe in
give it three or four years, it's going to be
the game to play in America, like it's already internationally
the game. Like we're the only ones that play pick
a ball like that.

Speaker 1 (02:11:39):
Bad House too.

Speaker 6 (02:11:40):
There's one that's like less than five minutes from yere,
so we should go sometime.

Speaker 1 (02:11:45):
If you hit it and it bounces over the gate,
what's is it just out? Now? No point?

Speaker 3 (02:11:53):
No, it's the point. It's the point. Who hit it out?

Speaker 1 (02:11:56):
Gotcha?

Speaker 3 (02:11:57):
The lungs it you know, hits the ground and then
goes out. But you'll see some guys they'll hit it
at an angle and they're run out of the fence
and still hit it.

Speaker 1 (02:12:05):
Oh they pros, pros. Yeah see this this seems like
a lot more moving than I can I think I
can do.

Speaker 3 (02:12:15):
Yeah, but you're why damn why? And then you play
you learn to play angles, man, you know where to
go here it is, you know where to go to
like protect yourself and you know, but it's that dude.

Speaker 4 (02:12:29):
Immediately knew was going on.

Speaker 1 (02:12:30):
Yeah, yeah, he was aware of the minute left the paddle.

Speaker 3 (02:12:33):
These these are pros. These these are big dogs.

Speaker 1 (02:12:35):
These are the big boys. Pickleball is more of your
triple A. This is when this other sausages made right.

Speaker 3 (02:12:42):
Yeah, oh yeah, this is a great game.

Speaker 1 (02:12:45):
I do want to get out and hit a little
pickleball one time I've never gone to before.

Speaker 4 (02:12:47):
We got there, there's a there's a there's a crew
out here.

Speaker 1 (02:12:50):
We got.

Speaker 4 (02:12:52):
Because these are bringing up Eric Decker, you got Randal
car you got Bach, you got us, got Clay yeah
de Laney.

Speaker 3 (02:13:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, you guys. You guys really have like
a little tournament, like a little little tournament at some point.

Speaker 1 (02:13:06):
Yeah, I just got to learn to play first. I
got you because I want I want to.

Speaker 4 (02:13:10):
Make sure I can operate all right, So here here proposition.

Speaker 3 (02:13:14):
Here, Here you go the proposal to here we get
a court built in this incredible environment you have here,
and then you have me on doing the show, and
in between the shows we can think around. I can
teach you the game. We'll go talk about best bets
when you know, you know, because y'all need a little
color in this bust.

Speaker 4 (02:13:33):
Anyway, Hey, you are you are correct.

Speaker 1 (02:13:38):
It's like.

Speaker 3 (02:13:42):
You're a local guy.

Speaker 1 (02:13:45):
Do so much for us. Once we go too much
of a streak, it's like, hey, the landing coming, Love
of God, we got to check some boxes. Help us out.
We could do that. How big is this little area?

Speaker 3 (02:13:58):
I think a court size is like forty four by
twenty four and I could be off by a little bitway,
but you.

Speaker 4 (02:14:06):
Need to driveway flat.

Speaker 1 (02:14:07):
It's not flat like that side.

Speaker 11 (02:14:10):
We're gonna have to outsource space.

Speaker 3 (02:14:13):
I know this crematorium, dude, Oh is it?

Speaker 5 (02:14:17):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:14:17):
So of course twenty by forty four, and then you
probably need like at least three to four feet behind
and outside so you don't like sounds.

Speaker 1 (02:14:26):
That bus with the boys needs to move. I know,
as we're building more shit I know.

Speaker 4 (02:14:32):
But there's also build out though, because we we actually do.
Look how far is pickleball.

Speaker 3 (02:14:37):
Kingdom away from here? Because that's a good indoor place
that it can't be that far away. I mean it's
gonna be like ten to fifteen minutes.

Speaker 4 (02:14:48):
The competitiveness, I don't know about it. It's like anytime
we get spike ball going as a blast.

Speaker 1 (02:14:54):
It's really one of those things you're just like, do
I want to take the time?

Speaker 4 (02:14:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:14:58):
Yeah, And it's a good workout man, I you know,
we all love a good sweat. Yeah, it's just to
sweat and all the ignorant juice that we consume.

Speaker 1 (02:15:07):
Yeah, you know, this time of year or two easy
to get sweat that time.

Speaker 4 (02:15:14):
Ain't nobody watching its, can't nobody tweet about us? Yeah,
being shitty except for you just to create a burn
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Speaker 3 (02:15:26):
I mean that might be like something you could throw
into the Dad Olympics some way.

Speaker 1 (02:15:33):
It's a good idea.

Speaker 3 (02:15:35):
For this level. You just need like painters tape, yeah,
and like a little prop that you can get anywhere.
I mean, I feel like I'm an asset.

Speaker 1 (02:15:48):
I feel like there's something there, but you got an
agent still, Yeah, you want to talk to us or
do you want to talk to the boys? Okay, okay,
all right, perfect love that. Keep the suits out of it.

Speaker 3 (02:15:58):
Yeah, Olympics, keeping nice and clean.

Speaker 1 (02:16:01):
Give golden plus.

Speaker 4 (02:16:02):
Yeah, bro, thank you man.

Speaker 1 (02:16:06):
Great episode, great stories, great stories, and there's more. I
love it.

Speaker 4 (02:16:13):
No, I know we didn't even scratch the surface.

Speaker 1 (02:16:15):
Now, but you gotta go, right, you got this dumb meeting,
dumb meeting, dumb ass meeting, a bunch of money or
whatever the meeting is. Yeah, we got all.

Speaker 3 (02:16:29):
Yeah, you come back, you know the first date up
on the first date, right, Yeah, got more?

Speaker 4 (02:16:35):
I know you got obviously the hell Mary, But do
you have, like, do you have some good war stories
against the Packers because almost like we get him in Clay.
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:16:45):
Clay was a bad man, and I knew I had
to bring it against him because he was on hit
hard and often. But my first my welcome to the
NFL moment was against the Packers my rookie season in
the preseason. They throw a slamp my way and I
go to catch it. I don't even know if I
called it because he put me laid me out. I

(02:17:09):
mean concussion protocol times ten. I was out no ship
like you ever get hit so hard or hit you know,
get hit so hard that that fine money I felt
like should have came to me, Man the NFL, I
need that fine money because you messed me up. Dog.
And so it happened against I don't even know who
it was at this point, but it's my rookie season,
as my welcome to the NFL moment against the Green

(02:17:29):
Bay Packers.

Speaker 4 (02:17:31):
It'd be fun.

Speaker 3 (02:17:33):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (02:17:35):
He had to bring it against me too.

Speaker 1 (02:17:38):
We all know that it goes. You know when the
wide receiver talk came up and who he looked up to?
Your name was mentioned.

Speaker 3 (02:17:45):
Before you even knew me.

Speaker 4 (02:17:46):
I was, I knew you, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:17:54):
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