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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Very well, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the episode of
Busting with the Boys, a very special episode with Greg Olsen. Today,
you're a boy running on very few hours of sleep.
I go through customs two hour delay, my only break
hour and a half. We'll get into the whole entire story.
UFC three eighteen, Scotti Scheffler, Easy to go. We'll figure
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Big hugs, Teddy kisses.

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Bust in with the bus, hanging with the fs, betting
on a game.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
No moment's gonna tell us what knop be we're here
just drinking.

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Bed making.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
N No, baby, I'm hanging with the Fellers.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
He's busting with the boys. Bro, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome
to another episode of Busting with the Boys. This is
episode three hundred and thirty eight. Before we start, are
we recording?

Speaker 2 (01:41):
We are recording.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
We're one hundred percent recording.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
One recording.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Everyone's pressed the buttons, the cameras are on, We're ripping.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Button is pressed, cameras are on, and it is ripping,
hence ripping. Listen one second. Okay, yeah, yeah, work like it.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Okay, all right, good, thank god, thank god. It's been
a long day for your boy. It's been I got
up at four am this morning, Pacific time out in BC.
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season all the way into October. Now, we did start
this podcast asking you if we were recording sure, is
there anything you'd like to say to the people. I
know that this is not a Bust with the Boys podcast.
That is a certain something happened, but it did happen

(03:17):
under the Bust with the Boy's umbrella. I was not here.
I was in Canada. I love to hear your side
of the story. I talked to Will. I talked to Will.

Speaker 6 (03:28):
Let it be known that Will's side of the story
is my side of the story as well.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Okay, what's your side of the story.

Speaker 6 (03:35):
We're looking for true transparency in this moment. Listen sunglasses
coming off. Wow, we're gonna look at them down the barrel.
You have one job when you're working at a production
company and you were recording talents such as Taylor and Will,
there's one job. It's to get that out to the public.

(03:57):
It's to publish it on the internet. Yeah, what is
the one thing that you have to do in order
to publish that on the internet. You gotta tay a
little one uh, press record, have to press record out
of press record. If you don't press record, nothing's going
on the internet. Really, I hate to break it to you,
but that is the truth.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
So, if this is a company that lives on the
internet and that's how we make money, pay for salaries,
feed our families, we have to press the button in
order for the beautiful people that watch this show to
be able to wash the show, and then we monetize on.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
That, and then we monetize on it. The kick in
the gut is not realizing that not just oh maybe
five minutes in, we got to redo the intro. Oh
maybe twenty minutes in. Oh, that kind of hurts, but
we can do it. Fifty seven minutes into the podcast.

Speaker 7 (04:46):
Wow, holy hey, hat's coming off, and I'm looking down
the barrel, looking down the parrot.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Look. I don't know if I can. I want to
look away, but I just can't right now. To a
car accident on the side of the road.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
Seven minutes see fifty seven minutes, And can I tell
you something please, urine.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Will's story is not the same. Oh really, he said
forty five minutes.

Speaker 6 (05:09):
Oh that was before we told him. No, it was
actually fifty.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Se okay, okay, yeah, his anger was probably gonna be
the same based that twelve minutes. Oh yeah, but my god,
yeah dude.

Speaker 6 (05:19):
And honestly, it was to really break it down, like
being in production as long as I have been, that
is like that's your first day on the job type
of mistake. So it was so such a gut punch
that we truly sat there for around fifteen minutes in silence.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, but that's that's that's part of will story as well.

Speaker 6 (05:40):
It was tough. And then to brag on Will. This
is not to get points, but to truly brag on.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Can I just button real quick please? Probably not the time.

Speaker 6 (05:49):
Right, Oh yeah, not the time, but I have to Okay,
I'm drowning.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
All right, you're drowning. But sometimes you just gotta let
the bubbles go, you know.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
Yeah, true, you got to the bottom.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Sometimes get away to the bubble, stop man and be like, hey, reset.

Speaker 6 (06:02):
You sink to the bottom. You let your feet touch.
That's when you can push off, That's when you can
kick back.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Okay, so you're in a pool because I'm making of
you in the ocean right now?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Or the ocean?

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, okay, but what we're gonna say about will yeah?

Speaker 6 (06:14):
You just he handled it very very well, because that
podcast could have absolutely tanked with us having to re
record it. He swallowed the anger, he swallowed the frustration,
and said, we got to record a podcast here and
put on an Academy Award winning performance of I'm not
mad at Sherman. Let's get this episode done. So kudos

(06:36):
to him, and uh, great learning lesson.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
One of the hardest things in podcasts. I don't think
we've really ever done on this show. But it's when
you do something and somebody messes up and they go, hey,
we're going to do this again, and then you have
to like recreate the energy you had when you were
first delivering the first thing. You're actually feeling it together. Yes,
it's a horrible feeling. It was to do it once,
like ten to fifteen seconds worth, a minute worth, yes,

(07:01):
and rough. But fifty seven and I'm.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
Dressed up like an asshole because it was episode zero
zero seven, So I said, oh, double o seven, that's fun.
I'll wear a tuxedo.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, did he know you're gonna wear that?

Speaker 6 (07:12):
I texted him asking him to wear a tuxedo as well,
and he did not show up.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, yeah, that sounds like Will. That sounds like Will.

Speaker 8 (07:19):
Did he even respond to the tuxedo text?

Speaker 6 (07:21):
Zero response to the tuxedo text?

Speaker 1 (07:24):
So J is also very well.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
On the first go round of the recording of the episode,
he you know, check out this asshole to open up
the podcast, which was funny tongue in cheek because I'm
in a tuxedo. Second time around, as he has swallowed
all of his anger, he goes welcome for the Dad's episode.
Here's zero seven. Sherman's wearing a fucking tuxedo and just

(07:47):
a hard cut to be just melting.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
And hurt, hurting on the inside.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
It was bad.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, that's tough, man. It's like a step brother Steam.
But it's like, hey, you know, Tuxio seemed kind of
fucked up now right, it might be the exact situation
where you're like, God, damn it, that hurts.

Speaker 6 (08:03):
It was so bad.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, it was so bad. Can you do me a favor.
I'm gonna obviously our boy will comp that he's in
Calgary right now, he's in Banff. I have a whole
story about my time in Calgary earlier today. While I'm
doing that, could you please go on chat GPT and
as chat GPT as a business owner how they would
handle explain to them situation and then ask chat GPT
how they would handle what you did as a boss,

(08:25):
and they were to compare contrast what it will did
for you, all right and see see what you wouldn't
you'd have liked better? AI or will Okay, absolutely, okay,
I mean a little homework during the show. Little homework
during the show.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
I'll do that and I'll revisit it at the end,
I'll tab it, I'll save it, and so when we're
closing out, we can end.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Of bing I love it, dude, something for the people
to look forward to before they get into this great
goals and podcast. That's wonderful. Let's talk about Canada, boys. Now,
I was here two weeks ago. A week ago something
like that flew in. We did some big stuff. We
couldn't say it in a nationwide FanDuel commercial. It was unbelievable.
It was so much fun to do that. I fly
back to Canada and I have a great time. Now

(09:05):
my wife every single time we go to Canada. First off,
it's so difficult to get her there because she's got
she's got her garden, she's got her goats, she's got
our bees, she's now she's just doing a whole bunch
of stuff all the time at the house. She's always
wried about leaving. Is when she leaves, something always goes wrong.
So it's hard to get her to go to Canada.
But once I get her to Canada, it's very difficult
to get her to come back to America because she

(09:25):
loves being with her friends. She has nostalgia. Every corner
we turned, she's like, oh, yeah, we used to pick
cherries over there, And I don't know why. She's an
Engles accident. But you get what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
She rips it.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
She loves it over there, she loves having a great
time in Canada. But this time I think it's like
the first time in a long time that when we
said we were gonna come back, we came back, all
of us together. You just like I just go back.
They spend another week whatever, we fly back. So last night,
yesterday was my youngest daughter, her fifth birthday. Let's give

(09:54):
Willow round in the pause. She turned five while I've
been gone, my oldest daughter, Win turned eight, and Willow
turn five. Let's do one more round of appas for
my beautiful kids.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Amazing saw me one more round of applause for somebody
whose birthday is today. As you're listening to this episode,
stop round of applause for and comments for Taylor lawan
happy birthday.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Ah, that's very nice. Safee, that is very nice. I
tell you, dude, dude lawan birthday extravaganza month. That's what
July is. It's a great month, a fantastic month. So
yesterday we have an amazing day. My five year old.
She wakes up in the morning. She has the same
rules every time. Don't come out of the room until
we say you can't. You can let us know you're awake. Now,

(10:38):
when we go to Canada, we stay in my mother
in law's apartment. We have to. We've done for like
five years where it's literally a two bedroom, my twelve
hundred square foot apartment. Me and my wife, both of
our kids, and Miss Tanna and we stay in there
and it is awesome. We sleep on the ground sometimes.
We like when we have a bed the kids now
with bunk beds that's next to a bed that my
wife and I sleep in. Not a whole long time

(10:58):
to have some alone if you know what I'm saying. However,
it's a lot of fun, a lot of family fun.
We wake up in the morning. She's excited. It's like
five thirty six in the morning. She can't wait, she
can't wait. Taylor and I kind of give her the struggle, like, sweetheart,
congratulations you're five, but like, let's get another fifteen twenty right,
go and sit, they'll get you there. Fifth twenty to
a kid, to a five year old, that is six hours.

(11:19):
That every minute is like days for those poor kids.
So we finally get out. We have a little streamers
up she's got her balloons. There's a whole but there's
a big five kids. She's still in the I love balloons.
Balloons might be the best part of my birthday type
of thing. We open up some presents and then we
go down to kytown that are known as Kolono. We
go shopping, We rip around. She goes into the store.

(11:40):
Then it can I have this? Then I can have that?
And I'm like, Oprah winfree if my damn credit card. Dude,
I'm like, yeah, you can have that. You want that,
go ahead and get it. Yes, absolutely, Because what you
don't know about me, since I don't talk about my
family a whole lot, is my kids don't get a
whole lot from me. They got enough stuff, and I
try to tell them that all the time. Listen, we're
doing good in our family. Okay, we're doing good. We're

(12:01):
doing better than a lot of people. And you guys
need to understand that. So you can't have X, Y
and Z. But she got this. Good for her to
be happy for her. We're not gonna always get this.
So for them to kind of get whatever they wanted
was a hell of a day for them. Go over
to Tailing's grandparents' house, their great grandparents' house, and we
have this awesome party. There's a little there's a little
blow up bouncy house. All the kids from the neighborhood

(12:22):
are ripping and coming over tailings friends. They all have
kids around the same age. It's amazing. But sun doesn't
set in Canada until eleven PM. And the sun's starting
to set. I'm looking around. I'm like, hey, what time
is it? And they're like ten, and I'm like, what
time do we bored? Tomorrow six twenty am for an
international flight. Okay, so we hustle those kids in. I'm

(12:46):
still trying to be the happy dad. Hey, congratulations you're five.
At the same time, I've HEARDing their little lasses along
and we got to fucking go.

Speaker 9 (12:52):
All right.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I mean my sleep, I don't get my sleep, grumpy boy,
That's kind of how my equation works. So get the
kids in. They don't go to sleep anytime soon. We're packing.
We didn't even pack, says spoiler for you, Jack. I
wasn't prepared, right, wasn't prepared for the day.

Speaker 8 (13:08):
That's kind of unpacking this morning in five No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
We packed. We packed last night. But usually adults like
true adults, not me and my wife would be like, hey,
we're leaving it a couple days. Let's start to put
some stuff together.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Maybe fold a couple days.

Speaker 9 (13:20):
You know what we're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Leave out a couple of outfits. Not us, dude, not us.
I'm under the bed, scraping for shit, going around, and
then I just randomly take a break, start petting the cat,
and Tailing does shit for twenty minutes. Bless her heart
doesn't say shit about it. Yeah, yeah, bless your heart
didn't say shit. So she's like, lookey, I will tell you.
We did get a bit of an argument, but not
like a real argument like.

Speaker 9 (13:42):
Who won, who won?

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Let me explain the situations. You can tell me who won,
because I do low key thing. I won, but I'll
explain how I won. So, like, as we're getting these
kids packed in like packed together, and it's like, all right,
the kid's gotta go to bed, and me and my
wife and miss Tannar doing like the spoter man, like
who's putting the kids that night? Right? Tales like hey,
if you put them nine at all? Finished packing, and

(14:06):
I was like, okay, if I put them in the bed,
I'll just go to bed right now. I'll just go
to bed right now with them, so one of us
is a little more juice. I here, Yes, that's a
great idea, Taylor. Apparently that's not what she said. Okay,
it's not what she said. So I get they brush
their teeth, I brush my teeth. I get the mouth tape.
I put it on, and I put the kids asleep,

(14:27):
and I get to give them the whole bit a
great day. It's time to go to bed, but we
want to do five minutes at this we're going to
do five them. Is that politely? I told them, Fuck no,
that's not happening politely. But at this point, it's like
eleven fifteen now, so I'm having a hard time. I
started laying in the bed. Mouth tape goes on. I
put the little meditation music on for the kids so
we can all have a nice little sleep. What do

(14:48):
I wake up to a light beaming in my face
and she goes, hey, I said, we're gonna put the
have you put the kids down, We're gonna put the
stuff in the car. That way we can just get
up in the morning and do so we can all
sleep long. And I so right then and there, I've
already kind of given the equation to me. Not a
whole lot of sleep, grumpy boy. It's kind of a

(15:08):
one post one equals two type of thing in my
days waking up, which never happens. Anytime you wake me
up in sleep, I'm pissed off. Like if you wake
me up in the middle of night and you're like, Taylor,
I don't know why any of you be sleeping next week,
but Taylor, I think somebody's house. I'd be like, dude,
shut the fuck up, like I want. They're fine, let

(15:29):
them kill us, Let's get some sleep. That's kind of
like my vibe when it's like midnight whatever. So Taylor
gets me up and by the grace of God, my
brain didn't trigger too. We're throwing hands and went to
let me be as quiet as possible, mad quiet, and
get these fucking bags in the car as fast as possible.
I walk outside. Miss Tanna, being the sweet queen she is,

(15:49):
She's like, oh, Taylor, that's all right, I'll do it.
I'm thinking, probably shouldn't have woke me up then, right,
I grabbed the shit anyway. I walk the shit, dude,
and I'm in just underwear like you want put a
short time. No, I don't even say no. I just
grab this stuff. I'm walking down the hallway in just
my underwear, no tube sock like I usually have. It's
just all by itself. Well yeah, but I'm also my

(16:11):
peace shirm anyway, So I'm walking. I throw the shit
in the trunk, walk back, and then there I was like,
is that everything? Like, well, we're gonna get We're gonna
keep these here in case we forgot a couple of things.
It's like, nope, win, put them in the car.

Speaker 9 (16:24):
Get back.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
I'm like, we're good. Like, yeah, I don't say a
word to anybody. I go back and I go back
to the bed, put my mouth dave on. As my
wife's like walking in the room, put my mouth daveon,
and I fucking go to sleep. So did I win
that argument? That's the question. I feel like the answer.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Is, yes, maybe you did.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
But at what cost?

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Woke up this morning? We actually the family was kind
of vibor this morning, So I think it's what we
needed because it easily could have been a blow up that.
I don't know if anybody's ever gonna gone to bed
mad in a relationship. We all have we all promise
we won't, but we do, but we absolutely do. There's
nothing worse than fucking going toes with somebody and be like,
you know what, fuck this, I'll see in the morning
because you're fuming for the next thirty minutes, you're not

(17:08):
even really sleeping, you're just quiet. And then you think
to yourself, they might think I'm not asleep, so I'm
gonna breathe heavier as if I sleep. Dude, I get
petty as hell sometime.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
But there's also nothing sneaky better than when you're like
in the situation that you're in and how you did everything,
you packed up everything, everybody else was feeling like, dang,
Taylor is doing it all and they know you're doing
it out of spite. Yeah, And there's the bad part
of inside of you is like, good, I'm glad they
all know that I'm doing this, and I'm glad they

(17:37):
know I'm pissed off. And they're not gonna get answer
until the morning.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah they're not.

Speaker 9 (17:41):
They're not.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
They're gonna have to wonder when they go to sleep.
I hope he's better when these six hours go by
and he's up at four am or five hours now,
Taylor did most of the packing. I will say, Okay, Taylor,
did we'll go with this seventy story. You said yeah, no, no, no,
I said she was doing I even said I took
a break. I took a break. We had listen to
the whole story. I did take a break to pet

(18:02):
the cat. But yeah, dude, woke up this morning.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
What happened earlier when you were talking about the cat.
You're like, yeah, then I like randomly started petting the cat.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Dude, for really, I saw the canine. Let me just
keep my hands. Like, my brain was like, this is
a huge opportune time. Will everyone's like trying to pack
for me to pick up this cat and go still
on the couch. And then my wife would walk in
and I'd feel like the gilt. I go, babe, look
he's cuddling bare check it out. She's like, oh, it's sweet,
that's nice. And you could just tell her she's like
this motherfucker just being an idiot. Looky though, Now I'm

(18:35):
happy I pet that cat after getting woken up like that, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
pet my suitcase, dude, pat my suitcase. And I went
and got the dirty laundry, and I was like oh
what are you? You know it? It's all my clothes
and like one pair of biker wins biker shorts. So yeah,
I did a couple of things, and I also cleaned
up the little little party. It's not important, dude. People
are not interested in the fine details of my story

(18:56):
because it's my truth. The morning, four fifteen and wake up.
We gotta be out the door at four thirty. All right, Willow,
my youngest wakes up like a like a goddess, like
a little angel, pops up. I'm ready. I can't wait
for the day when exact opposite, sweet girl, wonderful girl,
just had a really hard time. But I'm like, get
the fuck in the car, dude, we gotta, we gotta roll.

(19:16):
We get in first flight from Colona to Calgary, wonderful,
not even a bump on the flight. It was one
of those we kind of just like sit, chill, play
twenty forty eight and rip and it was nothing to me.
Land Tale's like, hey, we have global entry, you should
just rip because I don't know how customs are gonna be.
And I had it with the sweetie. I've been this
airport one hundred times, like it's not gonna be a
big deal. I turned the corner to start going to

(19:40):
customs lines out the door. My flight takes off in
an hour and a half, and the lady, there's a
lady walking by and goes, if you guys are this
is a two hour a wait, so if your flight
leaves in less than two hours, you're probably gonna miss
your flight. I'm thinking the same thing as everybody else,
what about my flight? You just think about me? Me, me, me, me,

(20:02):
and I think and what sucks for me is some
dude turned around and he's like, hey, for the boys,
bump me. So now I can't. I can't get emotional
right now because he's gonna tell a story about how
Taylor lost his shit on the poor lady who's just
trying to give the information. So I'm like, all right,
whatever hanging out. Lady right behind me is like, excuse me,
I'm in the national flight. Blah blah blah. She goes,
that's between you and the flight. Will you make it

(20:24):
or you don't? And I'm thinking to myself, that sucks.
That really sucks for all of us. But you got
kind of sun just now. It's been just sweetheart. But
he turns around he's starting to talk to me, so
I'm kind of getting a little like, fuck, dude, I
got sitting there, I said, in two hours with this
guy just talking to me. We're both gen pop boarding.
And then all of a sudden, one of the guys
walks over and goes American passport and he's like, yeah,

(20:46):
American passport and he goes, you go this way, and
I'm like, oh, we're about to go, and I go
I go to walk with him. Guy hits me with
the he goes, oh, all good here I go, oh, no,
I got American passport too. He goes, no, you just
wait in this line, and the dude looks back. Dude
looks back, does this shrugged me. Not a disrespectful shrug,
but a shrug.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
Nonetheless, So Taylor is Canadian.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, oh, I'm not gonna sit here and tell you
guys my truth. My my American boy's coming at me
right now.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
The passport didn't work.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Damn anyway, I'm gonna let that one roll off the back.
It's been a long day.

Speaker 10 (21:27):
Would it have been more disrespectful if that guy just
walked off without giving you the shrug?

Speaker 8 (21:32):
Like just been like you literally didn't mean anything to
me actually.

Speaker 9 (21:35):
Right, Like.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
I'm not even actually subscribed, and this story I'm actually
a part of my take. Thing that would have yeah,
I guess no shrug, like he would just forgot me
in the wind, like I was nothing to him. That
would have been tough, that have been really hard. I
stand in line. I'm about halfway through this line this girl,
and I'm this is not saying well, I'm not trying

(21:57):
to say anything. I'm just talking about the like this
is he this is her look, purple hair, nose, ring
tattoos right behind me. She think this chick almost had
a different word, this chick face. We're in rush hour
traffic where she's just gonna take her vehicle her body
and go around mine. At some point her body her
rights her body exactly. I'm you know, you're doing the

(22:21):
weave on the line. You're doing the weave back and forth.
You're essing that thing, and some people like to go
around the wide way. I'm realizing quickly I gotta take
the short fucking corners and catch the inside before we
keep moving, because this chick's kind of like feeling me out,
like she's shoulders shoulder me at some points, and I'm thinking,
do I have to say something to this girl? But
I don't want to get caring. I not judging a
book by its cover, not justdging a books by its cover.

(22:44):
But I thought to myself, I might get got, you know,
I might get got. She doesn't have she doesn't have
headphones in. She pulls out her phone and she goes, hello,
Oh yeah, you're right there. I see you. I look back, dude,
swear this is a true fucking story. I said, look back.

(23:05):
Her phone's like this, I'll be right there. I'll be
right there, gives me a little shoulder, gives dude, I'll
show you again, gives me one of these oh sorry,
and kept going dips under the thing and she and
people will be kind of giving her like the the
what the fuck palms and what are we doing? What
are we doing? She just dips and just goes, sorry,

(23:27):
my friend, she's right there. She's right there, gets to
the front of the line where some dude is like, oh,
where's your friend at and she's like, here's my boarding
past and he's like, oh all right, and she's like
too far of me. Before I even saw the conversation,
like I could hear the conversation, but respectfully, fucked that bitch.
That was one of the nastier things I've ever seen done.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
All times.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Scumback, all times, scumback, move all time.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
That that that's literally probably four episodes of Curb Your Enthusiasm.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah yeah, no shit, no shit, I got one more too.
So I get through the I'm going through the security line,
and then they have to go through the customs line.
But I get to the security line and I'm at
the point where it's like it converges the Priority people,
the gen Pop people, the Nexus people, everybody in between.
We're converging on this one line. There's one guy who's
just getting started by a bunch of angry faces. He's

(24:22):
doing the he's doing the all right, yep, okay, all right, okay,
I get here, I get here. He goes, babe, hits me,
I need you to stop right there. And it's not
he's not being rude, but I'm thinking, what, dude, come on,
He goes, you're with them? I go no, he goes
all right, and then does the whole you guys over here,
you guys start going A lady. I don't know why.

(24:45):
It's the ladies. An older woman probably in her fifties,
gives me a disrespectful shrug, a smirking she walks by,
and she goes cause it was kind of I did
the whole like half. I was like half a step
in when he touched my chest, and then she sees
that happen, she gotta gives me the ooh sorry sorry.
So I finally get through security. I rip, boom boom boom,

(25:08):
put my shit up. They'll take your shoes off, like
that's so fucking dumb. Can't wait till Trump changes that.
I heard he was gonna do that. I put my
shit in the security thing. It goes to the little
security thing and I get through. I start briskly power
walking to the custom section. I get through a weave,
one weave, one turn, and when she knows, I'm about
to hit my second turn. So I'm facing security. Same lady,

(25:31):
the fifty five year old who gave me the shrug,
She is turning the corner because her shit got stopped.
She catches eyes with me and I go.

Speaker 10 (25:42):
Yes, I had her went that sucks, doesn't it?

Speaker 1 (25:48):
And I made my fucking flight, dude, so rabid foster
making my flight, that's it. That's my day, they got
left behind. No, I'm just kidding. Do there said, fuck
gotta go.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
No.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
This is where once again Taylor's not true adult. Taylor
has global entry and suit of both of my kids.
They got a burger, they hung out, they got Snacksdale
calls me every time. It's like, you think you're gonna
make it. You think you're gonna make it. They end
up holding the flight for me and literally everybody else
in customs. Me and this checko Slovakian guy. He and
I were talking. He's like, I can't do the accent,
but he's like, I love Nashville. He's like, I love Nashville.

(26:26):
We started talking about Nashville for a minute. So yeah, dude,
it worked out. It was good. But also, fuck that
girl with the purple hair in the nose ring forever.
Unacceptable forever. And once again, for those of you getting triggered,
I'm just explaining her appearance. I'm not trying to say
anything at all. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's it. You

(26:48):
guys cool with that?

Speaker 5 (26:49):
Yeah, bring the Redskins back.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
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(28:07):
you know what? UFC three eighteen, great card, amazing. Poor
Holloway went down to the wire just like we all
kind of saw gon gonna happen. I do want to
talk about Donald Trump, just for a moment. And this
is not like a political stance. I know a lot
of people call us the Maga podcast. I just want
to just comment on the fact that he's basically threatening

(28:29):
an NFL team and giving them restrictions if they don't
change your name back to the Washington Redskins. That is,
without a doubt, just funny. That is objectively funny. Everything else, well,
this isn't that. And he's a bad person, don't care.
That is funny that He's just like, we're gonna fuck
your shit up if you don't change it back to

(28:51):
the Redskins. This is not three or four years ago.
We're ripping common sense. Whatever your stances, whatever your stances
on the Redskins. Here's my stance. Uniforms and logo goes hard.
A lot of history there, all right, if they want
to bring it back, she would be sweet. Shit would
be sweet. That's my stance. Now, my Native American, according

(29:13):
to by twenty three and meters, I do have a
little sprinkle.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
But according to the Poncho Native American.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, dude, I am Native American and also this photo
that I hope Sherman puts up. For those of you
who watching on YouTube. We could tell Trump hasn't played
a whole lot of ball in his life, right, We
could tell by that stance everything probably hasn't played a
whole lot of ball. Especially when he calls it the
Washington Redskins football team. He's mixing both names and putting
it together. It's objectively funny. Onward, JP, how do you

(29:45):
feel about it?

Speaker 5 (29:47):
Initially, when the Redskins got their name taking the first time,
I was like, this is stupid, and then and I
hated the Washington football team. It was my least favorite
name of any NFL football team of all time. Once
Week twelve hit, I said, this might be the greatest
football team name of all time. Really why, I have
no idea. I just love the basicness of it, and
like how different it was from everyone else, and it's

(30:08):
just hilarious. The Washington football team. Who do you play for?
The Washington football team? Which one exactly? And so I
think that they should go back to the Washington football team.
Ditch the Commanders, ditch the Redskins. Washington football team for
life is my vote? Yeah, so right now, one vote
to the Redskins, one vote to the Washington football team.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
One vote to the Redskins, because I believe the actual
native tribe that is native to the Washington, Virginia area
has already come out and said that they want it to.

Speaker 9 (30:41):
Be changed back to the red Skins. Oh, don't quote me,
but quote me.

Speaker 6 (30:45):
I believe that they truly have come out and were like,
we took great pride in that. So I'll give my
vote to that.

Speaker 9 (30:52):
Okay, I like that.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
I like that a lot.

Speaker 8 (30:54):
I'm fully Redskins tradition, honor.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
I don't hate your take.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
I like your stance on it.

Speaker 10 (31:02):
It's from the perspective of the jerseys and the logo.
It looks so clean with those uniform. If there's if
there was an issue with some native tribe that was,
you know, took offense to it, then sure, like I
understand that. But if there is like a local Washington
chapter of Native Americans are like, this is our history,
we love that. Why why are we Why is it

(31:23):
probably a bunch of white people and saying we have
to taken it.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
And I'm glad you brought that up. Whites are the
problem in America. We're you guys are the issue. You guys,
you people.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
We're trying to get better.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Club whitey.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (31:42):
My stance on it is whatever Will Compton decides. I
think we go with as the former Washington.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
To take it out of your mouth. That is the
craziest if what do you like? What do I like?

Speaker 7 (31:52):
Washington Redskins. That's just like my childhood. I feel like
I still struggle to call them the commanders. It's like
I talked about Washington, It's the Redskins. So you got
to bring it back the old school starter jackets, Washington
Redskins ones.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
They're they're amazing.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
So they go so hard, they go so hard, they
go soar, and I feel like it'd be a good
money maker for them too, because they've already sold all
these commander uniforms. Boom and then you rip and go
back to Redskins, new names, new identities, new n I
l let it go. Oh, I'm getting a word from
our producer right now while we're hitting record. After this,

(32:29):
we have a special announcement.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
Yes, once we are done with Commander versus Redskin talk,
there is some breaking news. We do not have to
end this talk and go straight into breaking news. If
we still want to talk Trump, but we do have
some breaking news.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Taylor, Man, you're gonna make me stump talking about Trump. Huh.
Last thing I'll say, I love Washington football team like Utah.
When they got the expansion team for the hockey, the
Utah Hockey Club, and it just said, it's just a
Utah across the side. Those uniforms went so hard were
they Where are they the yetties now?

Speaker 2 (33:03):
No, not even they were. They were gonna be mammoths.

Speaker 10 (33:07):
They were the And a little side note, our buddy Thomas,
friend of the show, he got hired to sing and
produce the Utah chance.

Speaker 8 (33:15):
So when they score, it was Utah Utah, Utah, Yeah
it is and.

Speaker 5 (33:20):
It's a thing.

Speaker 8 (33:20):
And me and my friends went and did background is
like crowd noise, like we were gonna.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Be in no way.

Speaker 8 (33:26):
And then they they went back and they changed it,
so they scrapped the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
So no more Utah.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, gotta get that at least once in a game
Utah stand up.

Speaker 10 (33:36):
I think it might be Utah mammoths now, but I
like Utah Hockey Club and Utah Yetties or Utah mammoths
any day.

Speaker 8 (33:44):
And but those jerseys, their color schemes phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, color schemes solid. I usually don't go for that,
like like.

Speaker 8 (33:51):
Like Carolina bluish Like I'm.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Not a Carolina blue guy. I'm not like a like
a bright color guy. I have my colors to be
a little more the end, you know. But yeah, redskins
all the way. Uh And what Trump said was funny
onward ufc oh Nope.

Speaker 6 (34:07):
Special announcement, special announcement we talked about at the beginning
of the episode. July is a huge month for several reasons.
But I would say maybe the most important reason is
there is a very special birthday. If you're listening to
this on Tuesday, Can anyone tell us whose birthday it

(34:28):
might be?

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Is it my birthday?

Speaker 5 (34:33):
Should we tell them in song?

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Hay birthday?

Speaker 8 (34:47):
Birthdayday?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
This is beautiful.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Birdday to you, gosh.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
And a steak cake, A steak cake, a steak cake,
a red me you know, brock Bowers is so right now,
good to see you. By the way, ma'am, where's this frommas?

Speaker 5 (35:22):
I might have to first bite at thirty.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Four technically, if you're watching it is right. Fun fact
I was not a red meet king in uh, Canada. Oh,
the boy went kind of crazy. You're a gm O
king Yeah, yeah, that was an ultra process king.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
O.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
God, come on, come on, get your ass at here.

Speaker 9 (35:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Boy, and that's a piece of fat on there, Come on.
I know this is not a good take, but I
like I like a medium steak. I do.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Are you driving to work right now?

Speaker 5 (36:08):
Bang?

Speaker 7 (36:13):
You liking a medium steak? Joe Burrow here remembered that
you said that in the last episode with brock Bauer,
so we ordered a medium for you.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Dude, Burrow, what a dog man, he dog? One more bite,
one more bite.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
I know.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
We're doing show for a show right now.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
There is a lot of stuff going on in Cincinnati
with the Bengals, not necessarily with Joe Burrow, but Shamar Stewart.
While you're chewing, I don't know if you heard about this,
but the first round draft pick, he still has not signed,
and there are reports that he is er. It's confirmed
that he's back at Texas A and M training, And
I guess there's some loophole in the system where if

(36:50):
he doesn't sign, he could go back to Texas A
and M for another year.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Is that real? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (36:56):
Because n I l I believe has now opened up
to where these players can be paid for their name, image,
and likeness. It no longer takes you out of amateur status.
So if he has not signed with them, he is
still considered an amateur and could go back to college.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
We're gonna talk about what you pronounced that a second,
So he can just go back.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
He can just go back.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
How sick would you be for the Bengals fan right now?

Speaker 6 (37:23):
And let's say he goes back and he plays and
then goes okay, I want to go to the NFL
now and the Bengals go, oh, okay, great because we
drafted him.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
No no, no, no, no, no way.

Speaker 6 (37:33):
He is back in the draft and he has to
be redrafted.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
I wonder if the Bengals get any consumption that.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Compensation or consumption, whichever one you want. Dude over here,
you thinking, dude, that is first off, I think there's
a peppercorn, steak pepper in my I that would be
fucking nuts nuts. Yeah. He was your first round pick. Yeah, yeah,
he's been sitting out And for those of you who

(38:04):
don't know the first round picks, it's all slotted. The
number is what the number is you're not gonna get more.
You're not gonna get less either. There's a tiny, small verbage.
I know we talked about this when he was at
OTA's holding out, but my rookie contract I didn't sign
till like two days before camp started, and my agent's like, hey,
you might have to hold out. I'm thinking this is
the most insane should have ever heard of my life.
Luckily I went to camp. But dude, that would be

(38:29):
so tough, because if you've watched quarterback, if you guys
watched a new season quarterback, I'm not all the way
through it yet. Well, we know how the season, how
the season went with the Bengals, and you're watching Joe
Burrow like you're rewatching him just completely light up the NFL,
and watching other teams also score forty and then they
haven't gotten necessarily better from a personnel standpoint at all,

(38:52):
and you're trying to add this kid to give you
that extra cake cause you need some defensive players. Yeah,
Trey Hendrickson, who's a disgruntled employee, And you're like, all right, well,
we got to find a guy that's really good that can,
you know, from a passers standpoint, so we can get
to the quarterback. So these corners aren't dying living out
there on the island, their whole entire lives. If I'm
if I'm Joe, I'm more mad than anybody. The front office,

(39:12):
the owner of everything's we pissed. But if you're Joe
Burrow and you have the talent that you do, you
need a defense around you. And my question is, since
we're we're in uncharted waters with the NFL, how are
you responding to this player if he does inevitably sign
and comes in for camp. What if he comes in
week three? What if he comes in halfway through camp?

(39:33):
These guys are rookie, he's already gonna get hazed a
little bit. What happens now with these ten year vets
us in there being like, yo, bro, go fuck yourself,
Because even though this is a business, still there's still
a level of like camaraderie and team teamwork and having
a teammate, having your boys back. But how are you
gonna have your boys back if you're like ten point
four million dollars isn't good enough or the language isn't

(39:54):
actually perfect. It's hey, brother, I don't want to get corporate,
but eventually you gotta go out out there and ball
the fuck out. You got you gotta get it done.
And it's like, oht is like your your contract is guaranteed.
Oh his signing mods is ten point four million dollars.
My bad, he's eighteen point nine million dollar contract? Am
I saying that correctly?

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Projected? Whatever, You're seventeenth overall? Pick you get hurt, No,
you don't be there. You gonna be fine. They're gonna
take care of you. Now, there's three franchises that everyone
kind of warns you about when you're going into the draft.
The Bengals happen to be one of them. It seems
like they're taking a step up when it comes to
becoming like a better franchise. But ma'am tough, look tough,

(40:36):
Look what's a tougher Look this or Will Levis getting
a shoulder done? Just a couple of days and I'll jack.
I'll turn over to you for two reasons. One massive
Titans fan. Two the Steak is talking massive shit to me,
So I'll have one.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
More bike, okay, Uh.

Speaker 10 (40:54):
Yeah, I don't know. I think that the Will Levis
is shocking as it is. It's that upsetting to me
if anything. It's great news because Will Levis didn't do
anything for us this past year, so and I'm kind
of done trying to stick up for him.

Speaker 8 (41:12):
So why is it being announced now?

Speaker 2 (41:15):
I think I saw YouTube.

Speaker 8 (41:16):
About this Taylor as well. Why is it being announced
now that he has to go miss the entire season?

Speaker 10 (41:21):
It happened recently? Is it from his last injury. I'm
I'm just confused on that aspect of it.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
But per my tweet, I'm pretty sure. I said, I'm
sure there's a good story for why he did it
the slate I'm too dumb the note right now and
he could be staring us all in the face. Does
anybody have an idea of why this would be?

Speaker 2 (41:40):
It?

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Like, as contract's still gonna be guaranteed, he's not gonna
get cut like he would be. Everyone's thinking kim Ward's
going to be the starter. He will be the backup.
I know he wanted to get traded for a minute,
but like, just like the dude they we're talking about
with Kittle that went in for Greenlaw when he got
hurt and then Greenlaw started to come back in the
game for the forty nine ers, he throws a pity
party for himself gets cut the next day. It's like, buddy,

(42:02):
you could have made money for another team. There's thirty
one other teams out there looking for you. I don't
know the logic behind this. Maybe it was a situation
where hey, shoulders a little banged up, doesn't look like
you need surgery. Let's give a little TLC. It's gonna
get better over time. And maybe they just miscalculate the
situation that's putting a lot of pressure on the training
the training staff over there. I know the Titans have
a great staff. I know Todd Torrisseli just retired. But

(42:26):
it's weird, man, It's weird that he's stepping into this
being like, yeah, what is it July twenty first, and
if you're watching this Jely twining on my birthday and
it's like, I'm gonna camp starts in three four days
and you're just gonna go and dip out on the team.
Like something just doesn't give. And I feel like, if
it is feelings being hurt, which we're only speculating at
this point, that his feelings are hurt, he knows he's

(42:47):
not going to be the starter. We had these strong
we were all optimistic and excited about the Will Levis
era starting last year. Fast forward three to sixty five.
Now we're all disappointed, a little upset with how that
whole process turned out. It's okay to have your feelings hurt. However,
zoom out a little bit. Realize just because you're in Nasville, Tennessee,
and it feels like the weight of the world's in
your shoulders and all the radio stations are talking about

(43:07):
you and how you're this or that, you're a bummy
of Jack mc feerso on the biggest podcast in the
world saying I'm not sticking up for him anymore. He
fucked that guy. Basically, that's loud right now. That is
loud right now. But the farther you get removed and
the more ability you have to zoom out of the situation,
be like, Hey, this team, this fan base is upset

(43:28):
with me. Can illogically look at in the mirror? Can
I look at myself in the miror and be like, yes,
I see where I made some mistakes where they probably
don't trust me with the football anymore. Yeah, we could
probably look at that. We got a little yippie last year,
but go to a new place, new coaching staff, new ideas,
new morals, new coaching techniques, new way they talk about you.
There's a way to work through that. Marcus Meriad was

(43:49):
on this podcast talking about how he got the yips
were one offseason when he was at Philly. He was
sitting there, he couldn't even do a slant route, and
then he got the coaching staff, the GM go up
to him, they nerd, they love him a little bit.
Marcus is now in the league, still a backup, but
he's one of those guys that came in for Washington
last year and absolutely crushed it. So if this is
a situation where Will is doing this because his feelings

(44:10):
are hurt and he wants the noise to go away, brother,
the noise is only gonna get worse. Now there's a
if there's a good, a good reason for it, which
I can't see right now, then good for you. I mean,
your time was ending as a starter in the NFL.
But also who knows, like you don't know what's going
to happen in Camerworth Ofugh. The whole season we saw
happened to Joe Burrow in his first season, we saw
it happen to a lot of rookie quarterbacks in their

(44:31):
first season.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
They get hurt.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Things happen, so he could have come in the field
and made himself some money. Tough look, dude, it's a
tough look. I like him too. I'm a fan of
him as a person, so that sucks. But you know,
we're all gonna make the decision we're gonna make.

Speaker 5 (44:47):
It doesn't seem like from all the Titans reports out
of it, it doesn't seem like the Titans are upset.
It doesn't seem like it was a bad blood like
type of situation. And a lot of people I know
just in the replies are like, this is something that
he tried to work on and it just didn't take
enough time and he actually had to get surgery, which
is the Titans seemed like there's no no love lost,

(45:11):
which hopefully that's the case. But only the Titan, only
the Titans and Will levis no.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Only the franchise knows, and the fan base is gonna
do with the fan base dies, right, They're gonna be upset,
They're gonna say a whole bunch of things. They're gonna
be nasty boys on a podcast sometimes.

Speaker 10 (45:23):
But I will say one thing like uh, as a starter.
I don't want Will Levis playing for the Titans as
a backup. I yeah, I would like him a lot
to be behind cam Ward, give him, you know, any
kind of advice or first year kind of pitfalls to avoid.
But we have Brandon Allen and Tim Boyle as our backups.
And that's yeah, that's scary if cam Wore goes down.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Scary fucking good. So who's your head coach? Yeah, I mean,
who's your head coach? CALLI but Cally baby? And then
when Joe Burrow went down, when Kelly was the quarterback coach,
who stepped in Browning? And what Browning? Do kind of dice?
The motherfucker's up for a bit, didn't He kind of
went off a little bit, didn't he. So don't don't
hit him. My boy Boiled now, I mean, don't hit

(46:07):
on Boil. All right, got my guys out there, Alan
and Boil out there, dished that motherfucker.

Speaker 10 (46:12):
I hope it just doesn't get to that point, but
it does seem like all speculation from I am, but
I think Will Levis knew his time was up, and
they maybe gave him the option. Hey, you can go
get this surgery and it makes it look like we're
not benching you as opposed to you taking an injury.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
I don't know that is something that happens. Those conversations
take place.

Speaker 10 (46:30):
Save the ego a little bit. Who knows only they
trade them. I don't know they keep them, but.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (46:39):
It's cam Wart season.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Kim Ward season, Cam Warred season. Isn't too early to
look at the schedule. What's your expectation, Mic Peerson.

Speaker 10 (46:47):
I don't know, it might be too early. I still
I feel like I'm really enjoying these last few weeks
of July before yeah, before potentially my whole fall is ruined.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Like, yeah, they can take them. Your fan, Yeah, you're fan.
Was in a tough spot with volunteers.

Speaker 8 (47:03):
It's scary.

Speaker 10 (47:04):
So I'm gonna hold off on predictions right now, but
you know I could see us win in the AFC
for sure.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
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did since we're talking about fandom real quick, did anybody
get on Will about his words that he had for
Dave Portnoy about Big New kickoff Fox when he was

(47:54):
talking about beating Michige's candy as September twentieth. No, no, no,
it's anything.

Speaker 9 (47:59):
No one.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
No one said, Hey, probably don't.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
No.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
No, I decided, hey, might want to not not do
that bad idea. Haven't beat him.

Speaker 10 (48:07):
Ever, it's great, it's great for content. So I was
more pushing it harder than any Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah, you know how it is. He's the game. Here's
the game we're playing. See where we're at. Yeah, that
was tough. That was a tough look for Will and
then Dave putting our little group chat up. I mean,
Dave has only been supportive of Will Compton. The words
Dave has said, regardless of tone. If you just read

(48:33):
them on a transcript. They are very supportive of Will Compton.
Yes or no, yes, yes, so don't be mad. Listen,
September twenty is coming, boys. I can't fucking wait. I
can't fucking wait for September twentieth. I go tow f
bombs right there, back to back.

Speaker 9 (48:53):
Okay, kind of close.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
It is kind of close. This is says in nineteen
sixty two. Yeah, listen, boys, what's that last matchup? What's
the score on that one? Let me see I got
zoom in a little bit. You know my eyes are bad?
Ye oh yeah? Oh does it say where it was at?

Speaker 6 (49:15):
Let's see at Nebraska.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Hey man, it's gonna be a fun fall. It's gonna
be a fun fun fall. Right Will's birthday weekend, we
get to celebrate him. Get him a meat cake. It'll
be awesome. It'll be awesome. We'll love him up Friday night.
We'll love him up. We'll oil him up. You know,
do a little live show kicking around a little bit. Huh.

(49:41):
A couple of bls for the boy. Huh.

Speaker 5 (49:43):
There is no telling what happens if they lose that
game in that type of fashion.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
If they lose that game in that type of fashion.
We're taking different planes homeboys, we're taking different planes home.
Like it's fun to poking product Will, But this one
just feels like it mean more. I think I think
it would.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
It would break me if because because'.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
And that's coming from a guy who's got gone through
a lot. Yeah, gone through a lot in his life
as a Game Cocks fan. Dude, If the if the
Michigan beats Nebraska again, after the way Will's talking for
a fourth year in a row, we've gotta no joke.
We gotta sit down with him and all what's it

(50:27):
called when someone's on drugs and intervention? We have an
intervention with him? Yeah, and we have to legit him
now and be like, you need to stop doing this.
It's too it's too much. You're doing it to yourself.
And he knows that to an extent. But then I
always think like he knows what he's doing. But then
a piece me's like, does he really though? Does he
actually know what he's doing? Scary time, man, scary time

(50:50):
to be alive. If your last name is Compton, all right,
because he has I don't even think he understands how
much is riding on this it's tough. Let's get into
UFC three eighteen. Let's get to UFC three eighteen. Listen,
I was boys in Canada, thirdwell country up there a
little bit when it comes internet, internet connection, I was
having a tough time, having a tough time. Ended up

(51:11):
catching the Holloway Poier fight. We did Taylor's pick, Will's pick.
Obviously Taylor's pick one. We went Max Hallway. I didn't
love that I won because you kind of wanted Lil
Wayne walks out Poorier, you know, diamonds out there for
the last time. All of New Orleans is standing up,
clapping this guy standing ovation between rounds. They're loving this man.

(51:33):
But it seemed to me Poorio was old, he knew
he was done. Max hollow was quicker, faster, stronger, and
it wasn't close. It wasn't There was a couple times
they kind of clipped him a little bit. And everybody's
got a puncher chance when it comes to UFC, but
even when they're on the ground, I feel like Max
could have probably finished him in that first or second round,

(51:54):
and it just didn't. It seemed like Max is like
he can't go out like this. It felt that way
kind of felt like he was just like this, DU's
a legend. I respect a shit out of him. This
is supposed to be his night. I'm actually ruining his
night right now. Let me get up with this boy.
Because when we when the fight started, I'm sitting with
you know, a bunch of talents, friends and family, and

(52:14):
I ain't say. I was like, if this goes all
five rounds, it goes on in the last ten seconds
they do the point at the ground, it'll feel a
little stage to me. And sure enough we got there
the fifth round and he Max Hallway points at the ground,
Dustin Pooria gives him the nod, and Dustin Poya just
puts some hands up like that. The whole day. He's
like it, Yeah, I've seen that one too many times.

(52:35):
Big fan of both of these guys, thought it was
very cool how Max Holloway took the mic from DC. Hey,
I'm the champ whatever, who gives a fuck UFC, it's
on you. This night's about Dustin Poria. He is not
my night, not my night, and that's cool. I loved
the highlight reel they showed. Thank you, dude, I'm I

(52:56):
don't about Yoah. We all getting teered up little bit watching.

Speaker 5 (52:58):
That, especially him, man, because he doesn't just been through
so much in his journey, Like there's no reason he
shouldn't have been unified champion at some point. And honestly,
I mean I wanted to see him go out on
a win, but him going out how he did is
like that's Dustin's fight game, Like that's his career.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Yeah, and it's and he's.

Speaker 5 (53:17):
Never been like he's always like a very good winner
and a very good loser, except for when he came
after Mike that one time.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Yeah, how weird was that?

Speaker 5 (53:26):
I know that was that was We let that go
because it's, you know, he's out of the game now, weird.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Yeah, put a pin in that because I do want
to mention something about Mike, but you ahead.

Speaker 5 (53:35):
Oh, but you know, I'm just like it was a
very poor way to go out, Like he always took
the hard road and his last fight was as hard
as it gets. So respect man, Diamonds are forever. I'll
miss him in the UFC. We watched him grow up.
I hope his life after fighting is as good as
it can be.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Let's get a moment of silence the.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Diamond thank you.

Speaker 9 (54:03):
But I bet one.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
That's tight. Yeah, dude, Pourier coming at Mike and then
Patty Pimlet after the fight coming at Mike. Mike's the
nicest guy in the world, and he's like, these guys
are talking about him like he's a dirty fighter. Mike,
are you a dirty fighter? Is this something you're doing
that I don't know about, because it seems like these
guys are like they they hate them, but they love them, Like,

(54:25):
he's a great guy, but he's in the ring, he's
an asshole, he's a he's a dirt back. Odd.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
It's odd, very one of one of Poier's guys. He
asked me, He's like, what what's Mike really like like
outside of fighting? It's like, is he a good dude?
I'm like, dude, there's honestly, he's like one of the
people I look up to most in my life. He's
an awesome person from a character standpoint, right, They're like, oh, really,
like are you sure? I'm like yes, I would die
on that statement. And it just it doesn't make sense to.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Me, because yeah, he must do something, Yeah, he must
change into something.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
He hits him hard too, and nobody likes getting hit hard.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
I know, it's I know it's lie twenty second when
you're watching the show, but I cannot wait for UFC
at the White House. Have you seen some of the
possible cards? And Dan has already said it's way too
far out. I think he even said John Jones is
not gonna be on. He can't be trusted, he can't
be judging with that big of a thing. But I saw,
like John Jones as Aspital Hospital McGregor Chandler, which we

(55:23):
all thought it was dead. This is the only thing
in my mind that's like this shit could actually happen. Yeah,
because I think he went back in the in the
testing pool. No he did. Boys, can we get Chandler McGregor?
Do we think it's gonna happen?

Speaker 10 (55:40):
I don't think so logic and I wanted to. I
want that fight to happen, just like everybody else says.
But at some point, like when do we kind of
when does it get like old?

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Like it's old?

Speaker 10 (55:53):
No, I'm saying, like when does McGregor's like stick of
like I'm gonna fight again? And then he doesn't, like
when do people just like stop caring? At some point
do they ever like or I mean it's Connor McGregor, Like,
I understand who he is and what he's done for
the sport, like probably biggest combat fighter ever.

Speaker 8 (56:11):
At what point does he get old.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
He's got eight one million pay per views.

Speaker 10 (56:17):
And I'm gonna watch it no matter how many times
he fights, if he ever does again. But I'm like,
at some point, we gotta get this on paper.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
You want something's gotta give vibes right now.

Speaker 10 (56:24):
Yeah, I'm just starting to get a little frustrated. But
it's okay, But I want to see that fight and
this It was unfair.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
For me to ask you this question, right if we
got done and talk about the Titans in.

Speaker 10 (56:32):
The doll Yeah, mentally, yeah, I'm just thinking I can't.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Expect you to come give me a positive answer about anything. Yeah, okay,
if you think it's gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (56:42):
I mean, this is the only way McGregor comes back.
As if it's at the White House, I think him
dropping his meat pick out there. It's also trending in
a good direction. Yeah, he's been in the weight room.
If you saw the photo, there was a dumbbell attached,
which is insane.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 5 (56:59):
It has to be of the Like how long is
you look at this photo? Well, I know you gotta
know the content you're talking about.

Speaker 9 (57:06):
I know your guy.

Speaker 5 (57:06):
It's film room. Yeah, it's one of the core values
of busting with the boys.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
No doubt film room.

Speaker 9 (57:11):
But bro, I.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
Got I mean, I'll have to show it to you.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Is it weird that I'm ready?

Speaker 9 (57:17):
No?

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Is it odd that I'm ready?

Speaker 5 (57:19):
It should be ready.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
That's what it is. Is a tomahawk.

Speaker 5 (57:22):
It's tomahawks.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
This is it.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
If your kids are watching, no, don't I showed him.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
What do you guys think?

Speaker 5 (57:34):
But no, dude, I think. I think if it's gonna happen,
this will be it. If it doesn't happen on the
fourth of July next year, then he's never coming back.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
I agree with that statement. And if you're data talking
about John Jones, you can't be trusted, Like do you
trust Connor McGregor?

Speaker 5 (57:49):
John Jones will be on that card?

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Oh you think it's a little bit of psychology.

Speaker 5 (57:54):
Yeah, he'll be on it.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
He's gotta be on it. He retired for four days.
Yeah shit, I had to retire. I come out of retire
for that too.

Speaker 11 (58:03):
I also saw potential Islam versus Ilia if he's trying
to get that third belta, no shit. If he like
still has both and he's going for the third, I
think that's.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
What I'm saying. I after watching Ili live, he has
to give me a reason to doubt him. I really
believe he's beating everybody, beating fucking everybody. I love that.
What else is on the dock? Do you have anything
else we want to talk about? Scotty Scheffler. Yeah, nineteen
and ninety seven days, four Masters, same as uh, Tiger
Woods incredible? Get him around aplause? Is he the goat?

Speaker 10 (58:36):
Then?

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Does that make him the goat?

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Not yet?

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Not yet?

Speaker 2 (58:40):
A lot of golf left.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
And I'm here to get the opinions about golf because
I don't know shit about golf. He's on his way, right,
He's on the correct path at this point.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
I think what should be looked into though, because I'm
not too sure. I gotta believe Tiger was probably younger,
which is this like kind of getting I love Scotty Scheffler,
but it's kind of getting like washed in the headline
of their first and fourth majors were this far apart.
But Tiger was probably like four years younger too. That's crazy,
so but I hope Scotty can do it.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
That'd be awesome.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Some about Tiger Woods too, even as a kid, like
I never watched golf, right, but for some reason, even
I knew about tiger Woods. Everyone knew about Tiger Woods.
It would be on. They'd be like that guy.

Speaker 6 (59:21):
I think the main thing that they have in common,
and it may be a huge difference in how they
have it in common, but Tiger Woods was so separated
from the game, having his own game just right here,
in his own level of what is good enough that
it separated him from everybody, whereas Scotty is more like,

(59:42):
what is most important to me is being a good husband,
a good dad, a good son. Like that's what's important,
not all these trophies. So it's kind of funny they
juxtappose each other, but they're also the same.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Wow different but the same.

Speaker 6 (59:59):
Mismo paro differentie.

Speaker 9 (01:00:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
I loved his postgame presser. As a competitor. You watch,
if you watch it through the lens of like competition,
you're like, Yo, this dude, what the fuck's he talking about?
But when you are like out of it, you're like,
the everything he's talking about is so true because every
time you are able to reach a goal that you've
been seeking for a certain amount of time, once you
get there, you truly enjoy it for maybe twenty four hours,

(01:00:24):
not even, and then you're thinking about how can I
achieve something next, and it's just this crazy mental warf
that goes on. So good for him to have a
good head on his shoulders. Man, that's cool. Hang out
with this kid right there. I love that. I love that.
Let's get us some nitty gritty real quick. Go back
up to the notes for me. NFL Players Association, the leader,

(01:00:46):
Lloyd Howell Junior has resigned. Why why is he? I'll
tell you right now. Investigations they've revealed that the nfl
PA is looking into doing a couple of things. My
man was taking trips expenses. Where was he headed strip clubs,
expensing strip clubs, calling them, calling them business? What is it?

(01:01:06):
Business things? Businesses? That the political correct term player engagement,
player engagement. Miami. I will say, every time we went
to Miami and played in Miami, if that's what you
call it, A lot of my teammates were doing some
player engagement the same as Lloyd Howell. They they I
don't know. There's like a two story one that they
have good food at.

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
Apparently, as a football player, are you an independent contractor?

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Huh?

Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
As a football player, are you an independent contractor? Like
are you your own you know, like fighters are independent contractors,
like they're their own business.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
A good question, I think off the top of my
head without putting a whole lot of thought into it.
The answers yes and no, like, yeah, you're an independent
contractor because you are like you're a part of a team.
But really like that eventually a team won't want you. You
got to go somewhere.

Speaker 5 (01:01:50):
Else, similar to strippers.

Speaker 9 (01:01:52):
Wow, wow, maybe he was doing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Some yeah, some studies he was, Yeah, business, Yeah he was.
How do they operate? Cash business? I guess it. I
get it. Flexibility that plays a lot in the NFL.
It was well too, more aerodynamic less clothing. Yeah, I
get that. Dude, play an engagement. I like that. Sure,
I like that. Now, if you guys haven't watched the
show for a long time, you know my opinion about

(01:02:15):
the NFLPA will and I've had a bunch of arguments
about that. If you want to get into those, you
can go find him yourself. But it seems like I'm right.
It seems like the argument is turned into I'm right,
and my boy jac Trader resigns, says, I'm taking my family.
I'm getting out of here. I don't know anything about
if he was a part of anything like that. I
truly have no idea. I saw this on Twitter per

(01:02:39):
Will Compton's Twitter, when I was standing in line getting
shoulder shrugged at in a nice way, in a nasty way,
but shrugging back eventually. So Jase Jarrett, love the guy
training with him in Carlsbad, California for a few years.
Awesome guy's absolute workhorse. Love him to death. NFLPA, you
guys know how I feel about you. You know how

(01:02:59):
I feel about Okay. That's all I got on that, dude.
You guys have your own opinions on it. And this
whole thing was per ESPN. ESPN said this, Yes, all right.
ESPN says, we get We're given credit where credit is due.
That's all I got, man. I don't even want to
get in the weeds because then I start being nasty
and saying a whole bunch of shit. Lloyd Howell stumbag
just like the rest of them, type talk and I

(01:03:20):
just don't want to. I don't want to do that.
You know, can I ask?

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
Can I ask one quick question?

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Should you ask me anything you want? Buddy? As long
as we're recording, okay?

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Perfect?

Speaker 6 (01:03:30):
First off, JPR, are we recording.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Recording?

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
You're good to go.

Speaker 9 (01:03:35):
Thank God.

Speaker 6 (01:03:36):
Secondly, Taylor, when y'all have talked about the NFLPA, that
was before I was here, I don't have a good
understanding of it, and I'm truly wondering, like what are
what kind of decisions do they make for players? Like
what can they do that like affects a player's life
In the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
They're a union, so they work on all the benefits
that we get, and they work on negotiations. When the
new CBA is, everyone's always talking about how we need
to get more read new based on what the owners
get and the players get house it needs to be
fifty to fifty and players need to get paid more
and all these things are fully guaranteed contracts. Uh, marijuana
needs to be legal or unillegal. Those are like the
kind of the hot topic headlines. Those. There's a lot
more other things they do. They spend a lot of money.

(01:04:15):
They go to Hawaii, every single year they have about
two hundred players out they spend money on that. You
big have about thirteen thousand dollars a year to them,
and not a whole lot comes up. You have the
same three guys coming to your building tell you all
the things you can and can't do. You get guy
like guys like Dennis Kelly. I'm answering more comprehensive questions,
they can't answer them. It's it's a shit show, dude.
It is a shit show. And it's structurally the way

(01:04:38):
the NFL is. Everybody wants guarantee contracts, you're not gonna
be able to get them because you have the one
percent of the one percent in the NFL. Those guys
are getting broke off making a whole bunch of money.
Those guys they're great, they're they're solid. Then if your
middle tier guys were probably talking about, you know, we
want guaranteed contracts as well. But the majority of the
NFL is filled with guys that are rookies or guys
fighting on the roster spot. So anytime you get into

(01:05:01):
a CBA negotiation with the owners, any proposal given the
PA has to bring to the players, which is voted
on so the NFL owners all they have to do
is be like, hey, we'll bump up minimum wage by
you know, I think when I first sat in the
league was four or twenty thousand dollars hilarious number, and
now it's close to a million dollars, might be like
nine or might be even into a million now. And

(01:05:22):
so yeah, so guys that are making minimum are making
way more. How am I supposed to when I'm making
sixteen million dollars a year? Look at a guy who's
making five hundred thousand dollars a year and being like,
hold off for the for the youth, for the people
coming up before us. NFL stands for not for long.
I understand why those guys bend the knee. I get it.
I was lucky enough to be when of those guys
are like, we should get guaranteed. Listen. It's a great thought,

(01:05:45):
but it's unless you have all the quarterbacks do it,
it's not gonna work out.

Speaker 12 (01:05:51):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
And the PA itself too, Like my opinion truly started
about the PA when my ped thing happened, and I
literally my wife sees the letters. She starts getting all
freaked out, and I'm like, dude, judicial system and isn't
before proven guilty, Like, we'll figure this out. I didn't
do it, blah blah blah blah. I start going through
the channels. I got to pull my agent and they're like,
you're fucked. Like there's no way you're going to get suspended.

(01:06:13):
There's no way. So that was where my belief in
the NFLPA looking at for our best interesting how we
can have something this and it's like, hey, you're responsibles
in your body. I get that, you're also going to
take supplements as you want to be as good as
possible and feel as healthy as possible. So that's when
my hatred for the NFLPA really started to Snowball Will
who was a part of PA. He would go to
the things. He's got a completely different perspective on all

(01:06:35):
of that. So we've gone back and forth a lot.
I would say this would probably lean in the favor
of me saying the NFLPA is no boy no, no
boy no. So that's just that's my thing. That's my
little take on it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
To your guaranteed contracts. This year Seattle's second round pick.
He's the first rookie outside of the first round to
sign a fully guaranteed contract.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
No ship with the language of that is maybe he
got less money, Yeah, get less money. Also not necessarily
a friend of the show, not necessarily a fan of me.
Let's give a round a plus.

Speaker 9 (01:07:13):
T J.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Watt signed the largest construct, non quarterback construct in NFL history.
He deserves it. Guy's a stud. Guy hates my guts,
rightfully so, but still gonna give credit where credit is due.
Guys an absolute workhorse stud. All Right, I think I'm good.

Speaker 9 (01:07:30):
You feel good?

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
I feel good? Do you guys feel good? Feel great? Oh?
Yeah yeah, let me see.

Speaker 6 (01:07:40):
Okay, so we have a summary of what so essentially Taylor,
I typed in very lengthy at the top of this,
like a full thing. You can click pause if you're
at home and want to read that whole thing. But
I broke it down in full detail.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
The real the dogs, the real dudes, the tier ones
sat through this entire thing.

Speaker 6 (01:08:03):
Oh for sure, and the real deer ones definitely hit
pause on that, and we're like, hold on because Sherman
could have just typed anything. So I tried to keep
it completely unbiased, impartial. It's would you like to read
it aloud?

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Taylor?

Speaker 9 (01:08:17):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
No, no, you know I don't do well all right?

Speaker 9 (01:08:19):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (01:08:20):
In summary, Will should stay, stay cool, stay funny, and
be firm behind the scenes. He leads the brand, and
part of the leadership is knowing when to turn a
mistake into content and when to lay down expectations without
damaging morale. Sherman's mess up was big, but fixable. Address

(01:08:40):
it with clarity, the move forward with even tighter systems,
and maybe a few laughs at his expense. I that
is almost verbatim what Will.

Speaker 5 (01:08:50):
Did probably will probably put it in chad GYP Yeah,
he said, what Will probably put it in chadgy? He
probably diddh.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
I liked. I liked stay cool and be firm behind
the scenes. But how do you like? Mood dictates a
lot of funny. Mood dictates a lot of funny.

Speaker 6 (01:09:09):
Oh and that's why in the moment he just whoop,
closed his mouth, sat there for fifteen minutes silently.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
How much were you just in hell?

Speaker 9 (01:09:19):
Uh? I?

Speaker 6 (01:09:20):
I sat there silently for about ten minutes, and then
I made it funny. I don't remember what I said.
We'd have to ask chef, and Will laughed and then
he like did one of these types of laughs so
and turned slowly to me, turned slowly to me and goes,
now is not the time, and I just go absolutely

(01:09:42):
absolutely and just get back on my computer.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Yeah, it wasn't that good.

Speaker 6 (01:09:48):
He did laugh though.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Did you apologize after afterwards? You did apologize?

Speaker 6 (01:09:53):
Oh that whole Hey, I'm gonna stop saying sorry thing.
You should have been there, because I think I I
said sorry twenty times after we're done recording, and then
spoke to him also after work and apologize maybe ten
more times.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Think you would say okay, and it was.

Speaker 6 (01:10:12):
It was a good combo.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
All right, We're in a good place. Can be honest
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it for the end. Huh, if you guys will stick around.

Speaker 6 (01:10:35):
One more bite.

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Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
This is a long time coming. I was just gonna
say that I've never been on the I've gone. I've
been on with you guys. Been never on the bus.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Correct, we do a zoom.

Speaker 9 (01:13:05):
I don't even know if Taylor was part of it
because I was doing tight in you and that was
when it was in your guys hotel.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
It was in the hotel, but it was right, I've
never been on the bus.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
Yeah, how's it feel?

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
It feels great. It's everything I ever dreamed of, Right,
it's I really like your whole setup here, the bus,
inside the shed. It's going on out here. You got
a lot going on out here, a lot of it's
it has good. You could tell there's like a good
culture here.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
You could when you walk in this warehouse, you could
just tell, like there are only dudes, just this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
One female at this place. There's trash the place like
this looked like when I walked into my so I
got here for tu I got my two boys twelve
and fourteen, and my nephew who's fifteen, and our friend
from home who's twelve, and the four boys are sharing
two double bed you know, two double beds. They're living
the dream right now, when we they're living a dream.

(01:14:00):
I'm sure we'll talk about the week. But we walked in.
I walked into the room with my wife this morning.
I thought my wife was going to throw up. When
I tell you, there was not a square inch of
carpet visible on the floor. Clothes, wet towels, shoes, their
cleats from yesterday's workout, dirty socks, all the shit they've
given away here at to you that when I walked

(01:14:21):
into their room and I walked into your little shit
like that's kind of it was very similar.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
A bunch of teenagerstel lot more money, yeah, exactly, more.

Speaker 9 (01:14:31):
Expensive trash on the ground. What's the conversation you walk
in that room? You know, Mom's pissed. Mom's pissed.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
That's like a that's like a boys get up like
they're you know, they're still sleeping. They're like in bed
under we let ourselves in. So we got a key
and it's like all right, fellas, you got literally forty
five seconds to like be out of bed, showing some
level of urgency, even if it's fake, even if it's
like fake energy, Like you've got to be up putting

(01:14:58):
stuff in the hamper, put and stuff in your bag.
Just fold the same shirt five times, right, like you
don't even know what you're doing. Just you gotta look
busy and look active because if not, you're You're done.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Mom's gonna get you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Yeah, you're dead.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Yeah, you can't have that your boys, I'll be honest you,
that's some talent when it comes to in a baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
We're working on it. They could be better.

Speaker 9 (01:15:20):
You can tell they're working on too. Greg was you
know we take it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
Yeah, he was a father.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
You you are the ultimate boy dad.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Yeah. I'm just I have very little patients and I'm
I probably drive my kids nuts. I just have very
little patients. I'm good. If they told me today, like
you know what, dad, Like sports isn't our thing? Fine,
Like I don't need them to play sports. But if
we're gonna play sports, we're gonna play right, Like we're
not gonna like we're just not gonna participate and be
on the team and just be around and what I

(01:15:49):
do at practice is enough. But at home, I'm like more,
if you're gonna be on this team and you're gonna
say you want to be good, I don't know any
other way than just like, let's go be good. Like,
let's go be as good as you can be, whatever
that is. You don't need to be a star. But like,
I don't do a lot of shit half assed. So
that's kind of like my big message to them, Like,
all right, if you're gonna I always say, like if

(01:16:09):
you're gonna be a bear, be a grizzly, Like, if
we're gonna do it, let's do it. If you don't
want to do it, no problem, we'll go do something else.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
Oh good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
But like if we're gonna be on the team and
we're gonna want to go to week long tournaments and
we want to go travel to hear and try try
out for this, all right, if you want to do that,
I'll show you what that looks like. But it's a
lot of work.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Was that what your childhood was like?

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Was your dad very similar that way? If you're gonna
do something we're doing one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Yeah. So my dad was my high school football coach,
so picture from nineteen. He started coaching in the late seventies,
coached ironhead Hayward coach. I mean, he coached some real dudes.
Coached me and all my brothers. He coached at my
high school, public school in New Jersey, typical suburban public
high school from nineteen eighty five, the year I was
born until twenty to thirteen. He was at our school

(01:16:54):
that we grew up going that we grew up and
went to, so picture, traditional high school football coach, hard, intense,
all the picture. It that was him, and we want
a shit ton of games. He want ten state titles.
Like we were good, but it was serious, Like we
grew up going to summer camps and we slept on
the floor of a dorm room in a sleeping bag,

(01:17:16):
and we were working camps and going. That was our
summer vacations. Like that's all we knew was football, locker rooms,
water boy, ball boy. And then eventually grew up and
played for him. But yeah, we there wasn't a whole
lot of just like casualness to our sports and journey
as kids. And I know it's not for everybody, but
obviously I'm thankful for it because that's where I learned.

(01:17:37):
That's where my whole foundation was laid.

Speaker 9 (01:17:39):
And are you trying to lay the same foundation for
your boys?

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Yeah, as long as they want to do it. Yeah, right, So,
like I have two boys.

Speaker 9 (01:17:45):
And did you have the same choice when you were
growing up?

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Yeah, we loved it. Like my dad did not have
to beg us to go throw the ball, to go run,
and we played everything. We played basketball, we played baseball
growing up. I did track in high school, basketball all
four years in high school. So it wasn't like today
where all right, eighth ninth grade, you're gonna be a
football player. You're just gonna do football for four years
like that. We didn't have that back when we were
growing up. So we played everything. But like he never

(01:18:10):
had to beg us. He never made us go to
the gym, He never made us go out to the field.
Now when we went, it was hard. Like looking back
what we were doing in eighth ninth grade relative to the
times that we were in like it was it was
pretty intense. Like our weight room, we were lifting with
the high school kids and it was four days a
week in the summer, and it was hot, and it
was sleep away camp, and we were exposed to that
since we were in middle school. But he never had

(01:18:34):
He never made us go. It was never forced upon us.
We loved it, but it was hard, and I'm thankful
for that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Do you see the same thing with your kids? Do
they love it? Are they all about it?

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
I think they? I think they love it. I think
we live in very different times, right. I think we
live in very It's a very much more distracted world
of youth sports. I think there's it's a lot more
highlight driven, it's a lot more social media driven. I
think there's a lot more pressure on these kids because
they know every single kid, both around town and around
the country now, who they are, what their names are,

(01:19:05):
how hard they throw, how big they all, how t
are they all, how many home runs they've hit. It's
all accessible. Grown up. You knew who the star was
of your town. You knew who maybe the town next
to you because you played against him in all your sports.
That was it. Until I went to Miami in high school,
I didn't a foot for a summer camp. I didn't
know what else was out there. Like all I knew
was North Jersey sports, and you know, lived in a

(01:19:28):
very you know, kind of little bubble. But then the
kids now they're playing in tournaments out of state. You know,
they're going to Texas. We live in North Carolina, they're
going to Texas. They've been to Florida, Georgia, They've been
all over and played teams from all over the country.
So there's this there's a bigger scale of like what
good looks like at twelve years old, fourteen years old,
and it's dangerous. It's hard if you're not My kids

(01:19:49):
aren't the biggest kids, they're not the most physical kids.
They're not the big grown man at twelve. Like you
go to some of these events, your confidence can get
shot pretty quick because you look around and there's a
twelve walks in he looks like you, and he's throwing
eighty I'm serious. Some of these kids are insane.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
We saw a picture the other day of some five
star war crews seventeen years old and he looks like
a forty five year old man. Yeah, and it's just like,
what's in the water, what's going on? Because it seems
like everyone's just getting bigger, stronger fast.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
I just walk out of these baseball, basketball, whatever tournaments.
We've done mostly baseball with the boys on like that level.
And I'll be walking out and mind you, they're twelve
thirteen years old, and I'm a fairly tall guy. I'm
walking out of these parks and I'm looking around and
the twelve year old kid who just threw seventy five
on the mound, who's five eleven and dad's five to nine.

(01:20:39):
It's I don't know, there's something in the water. There's
something going on.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
PDS. This this is going on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Listen. I don't know what's going on, but there's something
going on because kids, I know everyone always says it
wasn't like this in my day, but it wasn't that
long ago. Kids did not look like they do now.
To answer your question, they love it. I think like
all kids, they get caught up and like, that's the
best kid. He's the best kid. Oh, he got selected

(01:21:06):
to this event. He got selected to this fest. Like
I was telling me, it's not a race to twelve.
But it's very hard to convince young kids that the
moment they're in right now doesn't define their athletic career forever.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
Right, And that's a battle there right now.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
It's right, it's there right now, and then they're making
these kids to be superheroes. It that's our biggest struggle.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Has there ever been? Has there been a struggle for
you for your kids being like, oh, my dad did X,
Y and Z with his career, and they feel like
they should live up to some sort of expectations.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
I'm sure. And again, we live in Charlotte, which you know, obviously,
the bulk of my career, the bulk of my success
was there. I think if we lived in Nashville, it
would be different. If we lived in where you know,
should I think it'd be different if we lived in
a city that I didn't play the bulk of my career.
The vast majority of the people in the Carolinas know
me from my career, and yeah, when they come in

(01:21:56):
or there are people going, that's all. Since kid. I
hope he strikes out, that's all. Since kid. He's not
that good. He is that good. That's his daughter. I'm
sure because.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
They're comparing, they're comparing their kids versus your kids.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
His dad was actually, trust me, they want to beat
our teams. And I coach a bunch of the kids sports.
I coach each kid for one season, and yeah, they
want to beat us. There's no question. I'm aware of that.
I make my kids aware of that because I'm not
going to shelter them from that. Like if you guys
want to do this a The competitive landscape of sports

(01:22:27):
has never been higher at the young age. It's just
it's just the nature of the world we live in, right,
wrong or indifferent. And when you're around here, especially some
of these people that they might not like me, they
might whatever it is, there's a lot of people that
are not rooting for you to have success. And you
better be mentally strong enough that that does not waiver
anything you do. But again, they're young, they're in middle school.

(01:22:49):
It's hard, they're very INFLUENTID it's a very unique world.
But uh, we don't get it all right, But I
teach my kids we're going to compete our ass off
and we're going to do all the work humanly possible
in between your competitions to give yourself the utmost chance
to have success. Whatever the result is from there. Great
you hit three home runs, Great you strike out five times.

(01:23:11):
Did you do the work and compete your ass off
and go out and battle if you did that, we'll
fix the rest. But the second you stop competing, the
second you stop putting the work in, the second you
start feeling sorry that that's the part I don't I
don't have a lot of patience for that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:23:26):
And you're saying that they're learning about these kids from
other states and everything else just through like social media, Yeah,
which is true. It's like growing up playing travel baseball,
you wouldn't necessarily know, like you're still coming across like
kids you were throwing seventy plus, but you wouldn't see
until the're warming up on the mount and be like, oh, fuck,
this guy's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
You know, the second the game's come out. You know,
ay Will Compton he plays for the Oshcosh Select Boom
Boom Elite National. I hope he doesn't pitch because Taylor
he throws eight.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
They know every kid on every team, whether they're from
California at North Carolina, that doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Matter up your mind around because like because games can
go on and lost, like just before you start, because
growing up as like baseball, like baseball, basketball, football, like
you kind of just showed up and played and you
hear about like the kids that were really good at baseball,
they would start going to the camps doing things like hockey.
My dad grew up in a dina, Minnesota, and my
brother got really good at hockey. So at a young age,

(01:24:19):
it was like, we need to go to all these
travel events and do all those travel things. And for
me it was like, yeah, just keep playing sports and
get a scholarship.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
Great.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
If not like it is, it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Football is a little different.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Football is a little different. It's kind of like because
i mean, until kids hit puberty and like kind of
understand what they are and who they are. It's like
it's that you'll find out who you are in the future.
With that Baseball, it seems like guys are getting figured
out quickly. Basketball seems that way. Hockey for sure, Like
it's crazy to me that kids go to a billet family. Like, oh,
you're fourteen years old, do you have an opportunity to

(01:24:49):
be making hockey or you're going to move up north
to Michigan or Minnesota and you're gonna go live with
a different family. You don't know, so you have a
better opportunity to do this. Yeah, can't imagine.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Yeah, the culture of hockey is very unique. That's the most.
I don't know a lot about it. We haven't been
hockey family, but it's definitely the most intense, the most
that kind of track almost more like Olympic like Olympic sports,
where these young tennis stars, these prodigies in golf, tennis.
You know, these young girls go live at IMG at
fourteen and there's these academies around the world for tennis

(01:25:19):
and golf and all that. Almost gymnastics is kind of
like that. Hockey fits in that. That's what's so cool
about football though, Like so on the other side of
the coin. We coach our kids, both my boys, on
our middle school football team, and it's just our school,
seventh and eighth grade kids at our school. We got
fifty some odd kids that come out for the team
and we represent our school like it's easy. It's what

(01:25:41):
we It's what I remember growing up, Like you just
there was no get this kid from here, get this
kid from here, had a ball. But whoever showed up
plays like whoever's on your school and comes out for
the team, that's your team, and you just coaches shit
out of them and see how good you can get.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
It feels like on a national from a national standpoint, though,
it is kind of shifting a little bit because you
brought up IMG and these like bigger school that are
essentially recruiting guys. We have j C. Tretder, Jase Latham
excuse me, Jace Latham on and he was in Wisconsin
right and he was kind of doing whatever, and they
recruited him to go down to IMG and as where
all the four and five star kids go. And that's
just it seems like that's starting to go that way.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
It's getting football. It's getting younger and younger and younger.
That used to not happen till you were junior in
high school. Now it's happening as a rising ninth grader.
And now it's going to move even younger now to
the middle school kids are going to relocate. The thing
that's unique about football is seven on seven is kind
of taking over that travel baseball, travel basketball AAU circuit

(01:26:37):
where it is more it's not school dominated, it's true
travel ball collect as many good kids make your whatever
seven on seven team and then go around to all
these events that more of the AAU circuit, the euybl
And and you know, travel basket baseball and all that.
The wholesomeness though, of school sports is still the strongest.

(01:26:58):
In football. That's where kids really get recruited. That's where
colleges still know your high school coach. The other sports
are losing that a little bit, and I don't necessarily
love it. I think there's there's something special about playing
for your town, your school with your buddies Friday night.
You can't it's hard to describe to a kid nowadays
what that looks like. But like, I don't know how

(01:27:20):
you guys feel, but like, looking back on that, the
highlight of my entire football journey, I had really fun times,
great guys, Like there's something cool playing with your buddies
at your school Friday night, in front of your town
and going to try to beat the town next door
to you that you grew up playing against those kids.
Like I don't know, man, I just don't think you
ever beat that. You cannot be.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
I mean, just put on k Chasey the Boys of Fault.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
That song doesn't get you fired up, he got juiced.

Speaker 9 (01:27:45):
Just the purity of the game. Like you don't know
that a Monster energy drink is bad for you, but
you want to go to the gas stations with you
don't know that when you call Yeah, if I take
one of these, I'm gonna have some more juice before
the game. Oh, what's getting your ankles tape? That seems
like I don't know if I should. That's it's kind
of cool. You watch Friday Night Lights, like right, the
purity of the game in high school football, there's just there's.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
Nothing like that, and playing being able to play, be
lucky enough to play every level of the game of football.
The fact that high school is the best in our
minds is great because everybody, every kid can go and
play high school football and feel that Friday night Lights.
Yeah where you you kind of feel like you're the
main event. And if you're lucky enough to grow up
in a smaller town, they you cannot fucking beat it. Dude.

(01:28:26):
Like we my sophomore year of high school, just a
bunch of gritty white kids. We go fifteen to oh
and go to State down in Phoenix, and the town
itself put up little signs a closed for State.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
It's Friday night down like the movies. It's that's just real.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
It's amazing, and you feel like for that moment, you're like,
we are the main attractions.

Speaker 9 (01:28:45):
It's when you're like you're you're you're obviously extremely motivated
in college and when you play in the NFL and
professional ball, but when you're when you're in high school,
like I feel like it's when you're just the most inspired.
You know nothing about the business side of everything, You
know nothing about out any of the bureaucracies that go
on with depth charts or any of that stuff at
the highest level in college, like high school, it's like

(01:29:07):
you are just the most inspired by players you want
to be like players you want to emulate. Just living
the dream in your head a little bit on a
Friday night. It is.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
It is the best, and you got even more pureform
because like those rivals in twenty four seven, where.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Those are starting just starting, so it wasn't I was
in its infancy of like rankings and player rankings and
stars and all. I was just starting when I was
in high school.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
Because I remember going to like twenty four to seven, Yeah,
and after every game we didn't get a statue ourselves,
so I would like wait for that to load up
to go how many tackles did I really get? I
feel like I got eight and it'd be like three.
I can see how they got there. Like, you know,
I felt like that's a pile. I was a big
pile jumper, big pile jumper. I got the assist there boys,

(01:29:48):
you're welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
Got them down from out. The guy that's doing the
PA announcing just he just found the closest number he
can find. He's just saying your name all day.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
You're a hero, right exactly one on the tap.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
But we're losing that, You're like we talk about IMG
and those academies. That's one thing. There's public high schools
all around the country that kids are going to four
different schools in four years. There's public schools that they're
getting apartment buildings down the street and you can just
move in, write your new address on and you go
to a new school like that. Yeah, Florida's got school choice.
You can transfer free of charge, go to any school

(01:30:20):
within your county and not have the need to live there.
Like it's it's the wild West right now.

Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
When I when I was in high school, I was
I was in a small town, right I told you
the state things. Sophomore the next year we go like
three and seven. We were really bad, and we played
a school in Scottsdale, Arizona, and one of the coaches
coached me and Papa Warner, and he's like, hey, Taylor,
he's got the frame for being off. It's the line.
And they kind of started doing the little recruiting thing.
So all my dad did was go get an apartment
that was a block away. And now you're in the

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district and I was. I started school like before the
end of my junior year.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
You were ahead of the times.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Ahead of the times, man, the best decision I ever made.
I was heartbroken to leave my boys though, because that's
what it's all about.

Speaker 5 (01:30:58):
Friday we had.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
One day Harry Queen. And because the Cave Creek, Arizona,
like they don't allow any franchises, but like in the
eighties they're like, hey we'll allow Dairy Queen. That was
a big deal for the town. So Fridays before games,
we will go smack a blizzard before game, go play,
thinking like yeah, we're juiced. Opp yeah, I'm starting to
get my cows up. That's all I care about is
you have a little more weight on handle this double
team a little bit better. And then after that it's

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like who's got a fake ID, Who's that's it right there.

Speaker 9 (01:31:24):
Catching a cramp at the after party because you played
so much.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Exactly, Yeah, and you're like someone someone so parents are
out of town. Yeah, someone's parents are out of town,
and so they got a couple of racks of bud
Light and we're gonna get there and like I'm gonna
hopefully get three beers in me and be like this
is this is what about?

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Where does life go from here?

Speaker 5 (01:31:44):
It does it?

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
Just babies and memories after that? Yeah, that's lots of them. Yeah,
I got lots of them.

Speaker 9 (01:31:51):
Headstrong on the bus.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
The music, high school locker room music. I think every
school in America for the most part listen to the
same like six songs.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
Yeah days, yeah, I mean the amount of times you
hear a thunderstruck. But every time I sitting there like.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Ah, like I wasn't like in high school. I don't
know you, Like in high school, like we all like
were in our rap phase where like everyone loved rap
music and biggie like that was our era. But in
a locker room, like it didn't matter who was in
the locker room. Like there was something about rock music
in pregame. You wouldn't listen to that song in a
million years. But if you're if you're spatting up? Did

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you guys used to get to the games early because
you wanted to change your cleats, Like, did you guys
have screwing cleats? No, nope, I had.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
I had Nike Sharks and you could actually take so
the Nike Swish you could had like little colors and
you could pull out the color put it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
If you guys are so much younger than me, dude,
the highlight of high school football was we were able
to finally use detachable cleats. Like you'd go so like
go before the game, meet all the other buddies in
the team. We were gonna get there early. I gotta
in new cleats. My dad would buy like boxes of
just detachable cleats, so like only the seniors could get
like fresh ones. And you made the freshmen. They they

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were down to like their nubs. You can see the
men coming through. But man, you sit there with those
little keys. You change your spikes. The spikes were this
big and you'd walk around like the tile locker rooms
and school.

Speaker 9 (01:33:20):
It was like, dude, thunder is the best, Like you
got that one that one coach on the staff that
knows how to make a little highlight tape in the
DHS in Thunderstrucks in the background and you're seeing the
tape from the press.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Boxes run crazy. So like the end of the year
banquet when like your I don't know about you guys,
like they had like a school like TV productions class
that would make like a year highlight film that was
like the season recap, and you were just like at
the bank and you're like, because you know, the cheerleaders
are there, the parents are there, the freshmen. You're like,

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I hope they put on all my good plays, on
your good plays. And you're kind of looking around and
was like, he's like that you think that was.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
In my mind?

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
I'm like, the only thing anyone in here is thinking
about is that guy number four, the main character. Yeah,
my shoulder pads were bigger in high school. You could
probably find it. My shoulder pads in high school were
bigger than my shoulder pads in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
And it's not even that's for most guys.

Speaker 2 (01:34:24):
I had to be Yeah, you can't even I mean,
I mean, like, what is that that's a unit?

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
A look at that guy, the little mask, the little
tu bar. I mean that's a that's an offensive lineman
face mask. I've ever saw one.

Speaker 9 (01:34:41):
What is that bust a wedge?

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
This photo is sleeves.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
Yeah, it was practice. That was our practice uniforms. Okay,
so yeah, I wouldn't warn sleeves in the game, but
that was definitely practice. No mouthpiece in looks like we're
practicing kickoff return?

Speaker 9 (01:34:57):
What what was your by the You're locking around.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
A lot of stars. I don't know about if you
guys noticed the stars. That's my that's me and my dad.
Go go to the left. That's me and my dad.
After we won our first state championship. That's my senior year.
Your sie first one we had lost. He had lost
seven No way, finally won my seven state titles. My
older brother, Chris, who was one graade ahead of me freshman, sophomore, junior,

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senior year, he played in four state championships. They lost
all four of them.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
My dad had won state championships at his previous school,
but that was his first state championship at our school.
That was my younger brother. He played. He played quarterback
at Miami. He was nasty. Both my brothers were quarterbacks,
and uh I got the tight end.

Speaker 9 (01:35:46):
G Fuck, that is awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
Your dad was your dad one of those guys where
you're always searching for the proud of you comment? Or
was he was? He pretty vocal emotionally with you.

Speaker 5 (01:35:58):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
He he was pretty quick to tell us he knew
we were good. His balance was immediately after the game,
We're gonna focus on all the things you didn't do well,
and then like an hour or two later, it was
gonna be like, you guys are pretty good. Like you guy,
you guys played your ass off like so he was
gonna coach first and fix all the mistakes. You want

(01:36:22):
to hear a great story about my dad. This sums
up my dad. So twenty sixteen, we have Monday night
football against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Cam had gotten hurt
the previous week, so Derek Anderson's the quarterback. If Derek
Anderson played quarterback, he was gonna throw every single pass
of the game to me like that was just it
was just understood. It was the best I got him for, however,

(01:36:45):
six quarters of my life, and he would throw every
ball to me. So we go to Monday Night Football.
There's my dad right there. We go to Monday Night Football.
I have one hundred and eighty five yards on Monday
night football. We lost, but I had one hundred and
eight eat something yards. We walk into like little family
section in the lobby outside inside the stadium, like, you know,

(01:37:06):
I say to my wife and my kids and my
mom and dad and everybody. And in the late in
the in the mid of the fourth quarter, we ran
like a like a corner route to the boundary and
it was a good ball and it was one of
those like catch and the guy kind of rakes you
like I got turned inside. He was on my back
and I got turned inside, is which I made my

(01:37:27):
chest to the defender, caught it, and as I was
going to the ground, he kind of raked me, like
raked the ball down and I lost it. It was
incomplete on third down, so we punt. We end up losing.
The game was a close one hundred and eighty one. Yeah,
seventeen fourteen targets, thirteen targets. So I walk in, you know,

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that's the best game I've ever had in my life.
Dad gives me a hug, say, hey, what happened on
that third down in the fourth quarter. I was like,
I probably should have caught it.

Speaker 9 (01:37:59):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
Like, and he wasn't saying it. He was not the
guy that was like dogging, like he said it sincerely,
but like that's just how we grew up. Like and
I was like, yeah, like I probably should have caught it,
like that probably would have helped we would converted on
third down and who knows if we would have scored.
But like I get it, like, yeah, I should have
caught it. Like that was it? Like our the standards

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were super high and that's all we knew.

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Speaker 9 (01:39:14):
Dude, you've been that you being the head man of
the middle school team. What what are practice like in
middle school?

Speaker 2 (01:39:21):
I got a great You had my defensive coordinator on
the bus a couple of weeks.

Speaker 9 (01:39:24):
Yeah, have a staff.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
Just my staff is me, my dad, Jonathan Stewart, Luke,
and Todd black Ledge. You guys know Todd. He calls
games at NBC quarterback in Penn State.

Speaker 9 (01:39:38):
Your dad's on the staff.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
My dad. My dad's been doing it with me.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
For this is our kids one of these. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
So we did two years of pop Warner and now
this is our second year at the middle school. So
this is our fourth year doing it. Me and my
dad and Luke have done it. There's a picture of us.
Me and my dad and Luke have done it together
for four years. Stu just joined us because his kids
go to school with us.

Speaker 9 (01:40:00):
You spotted them out. You're like, hey, yeah, let's move
it down.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
You need something to do. Yeah, his daughters are little,
but uh yeah man. So we have a blast and
uh we run real practices though. We're fortunate that we
have a big staff for middle school, five guys. We
sometimes have a six. Like six guys on a coaching
staff in middle school is like one hundred. So we're
doing individual team takeoff, individual offense, defense, like we can

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really spread everybody out, do a ton of individual work.
There was us last year getting ready under the lights
at our school. That was sick.

Speaker 9 (01:40:32):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
We do pregame meal, so me and Luke are riding
on the bus taking the boys to the game. So
it's just me Luke and just like thirty forty middle
school boys taping their fingers now it's like wrist tape
up to their elbows. They got they're putting eyebla. You know,
it's the whole In the background, you're strokes on the back.

(01:40:54):
Still thirty years later, you only.

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
Can play all those Are you fucking respect this.

Speaker 5 (01:41:01):
Song?

Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
Me and Luke are up there bashing like a yeah,
for some reason, you weren't allowed to talk on the bus.

Speaker 1 (01:41:11):
Dude, is that wild?

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
It was dead quiet. And then there was like that
one assistant, hard ass coach. Someone would like, sneeze, can
we focus.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
On the game.

Speaker 2 (01:41:19):
It's like, why is he yelling at me?

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
Like you cannot right? Yeah, the school buses, the yellow
school busses line up, You get in, you sit in
the back and snicker for a little bit. All took
this one coach and be like, hey, we focused it on.

Speaker 9 (01:41:34):
Please tell me, please tell me you just take the
buses for just the moment leading up to the game.
And you're like, hey, we're not taking any time. Make
sure your tape, makes sure you're ready to go. We're
getting off this bus and we're whooping. Some ask yeah,
we're taped. We're taped before we get there. And then
we and then it's shoulder pads and helmets on on
the bus and we're walking off down the stairs. Oh ship,
we're walking off the stairs. There's no locker rooms, there's

(01:41:55):
nowhere to go.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
But you don't just put the shoulder pads under the
little storage area.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
No, No, we carry on. Yeah, putting them on. Take
care of your wife, footed up, put your cleats on.
We are walking off the bus, locked and loaded. So
last year, Luke and I are on the bus with
the boys and we're going to one of our away games,
and Luke's like taking attendance, like making sure we because
it's just the two of us, the bus driver and

(01:42:19):
we're responsible for all these kids. And he's doing attendance,
and I'm talking the offensive defensive line about you know,
our combo rules and first play, the game is going
to be whatever, and let's get off to a good start.
And you know, twenty minutes later, Luke's like, hey man,
we got a problem because I'm looking back at the
boys talking to the kids. He's like, we're back at school.

(01:42:40):
I'm like, what are you talking about. He's like, the
bus driver just went completely in a full circle and
we're back where we started. We end up being thirty
minutes late to our game. Me and Luke are sweating.
Parents are texting us where are the kids? They're waiting
for us, and Luke and I keep coming in late
with the boys because the bus driver got lost.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
He got lost in his job.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
Yeah, none of us were talking, none of us were
paying attention because we're all doing a million things. And
we did a full circle and we're back at school.

Speaker 9 (01:43:08):
Just think I don't know where gonna drop.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
You think he'd look back at one point, but like
also got address your phone it was and plug it in.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
Yeah it was. Uh, it was clost to the best men.
Like that's the best part of all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
Yeah, I mean, those kids have no idea how good
they happened.

Speaker 9 (01:43:26):
Right so far, you guys went seven and one.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
Last we lost the first game of the season to
a good team. We lost the first game of the season,
and then we rattled off and then you did look back.

Speaker 5 (01:43:36):
No, we we.

Speaker 2 (01:43:38):
We got better as the year went on. You only
had like thirty kids on the team last year. We
got like fifty something this year. All right, the energy
is building. But we had a really good group of
eighth graders. They just hadn't played a lot of football before,
like a lot of first time kids. We're teaching kids
how to put helmets on, how to buckle chin straps,
how to put you know, how do you do the
clip on your shoulder pad? Like we part of our

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practice was like that. Like we we had a lot
of kids, they just they didn't know what they didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
Yeah, understanding how to get dressed is something that nobody
ever talks to you about. I played one year. I
played Papa when I was a corner third grade nice
and I didn't play again until my freshman year. But
I remember going to my freshman locker room. All the
kids are like getting dressed, and I'm watching them. Okay,
I guess that's a hip pad. I'll put that on
my Oh yeah, and I had like I was like
watching the kids on.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
The last It used to be to put the pads
in your pants.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
And if you get to college and you find the
shorts that have that are built in and you might
be a little too old for that, you might have
been playing in college with them.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
Things were girdles with our hip in our butt pad
and then our pants. We would put the thigh pads
in our pants. Yes, that's what we used to do.
Now all of the pads are all built into the girdle,
so they put on it, they pull up a girdle
thigh hip but all that and then they just put
knee pads in their pants and that's what the kids

(01:44:55):
wear now. So it's actually pretty easy.

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
Isn't it wild? That like when you're in high school,
it's how big can I look like, how like the
biggest thigh pad, the biggest deeps. But the older you get,
it's like, how tiny can I make these pads just
because so I can be bigger. It's it's crazy how
much changes.

Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
It's it's so true. It's the best. Though there's nothing
to do.

Speaker 9 (01:45:15):
Tell me there are any moments you still get a
little bull in the ring in we don't Oklahoma drills.

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
Yeah, I'll tell you. It's a good question. Though we
don't do bowl in the ring. We can't. We don't
do Oklahoma eye opener. You remember eye opener. We're like
one guy would go sideways and you would shuffle and
there was cones and I'd pick a lane and we'd
go yeah, and like you're standing in the I never
did that, but like the ball carrier would run sideways.
You would shuffle, pick the hole, and then once I

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picked a hole, you're going, I would go through. So
we did that growing up. And you'd be in the
line and you're like two three four, and you're like
letting the kid go in front of you. He's like
the badass kid on your team is the fourth and
you're like two three ship, I'm four I'm not going
with Taylor all right, Will's you know what I mean.
But you're doing the math in your head like there
was a like you learned a lot of ship at

(01:46:05):
football practice when we were growing up, Like that was
your mom and dads were and that coach he didn't
give two ships. He could have run you until you died.
Like no one cared. Y.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
We we can't.

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
We can't do that anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
Parents are there.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
I'm not worried about the parents.

Speaker 9 (01:46:22):
Pursuit drill where you know we do. You got a
runner going, you got low pursuit, you got high pursuit.
It's like two on one.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
We do a lot of We do a ton of
pursuit drill. We had a kid actually break his nose
bumping in first practice last week in the summer. No pads,
but we just tag off and we teach in and
out out set and edges. You know who are inside
hit man, who are our forced perimeter players, Like get
them run into the ball. We do d line. They
go through their little station and then run to the ball.

(01:46:48):
Second level secondary backside guy run corner. Like that's our
first drill we do on defensive day. But we just
tag off we we do a lot of teaching progressions
of tackling striking. We always talk like we're gonna hit
guys with the screws of our helmet, like the helmets
don't have screws anymore, but like that's how we learned it.
Like you hit the guy with the screws of your

(01:47:08):
face mask, face up. So like we do a lot
of that all summer. We do controlled contact in practice,
like we do a ton of like two on one
combo blocks. We call them bazukas, like a ton of
hip to hip bazuka like combo taking on strikes, we
don't go to the ground. We don't just keep it thud.

Speaker 9 (01:47:27):
We keep it thudball.

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
We keep it thud.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
And then in the game, obviously we our goal with
the kids, and we don't shy away from this. Like
our we tell the kids all the time, we're gonna
fix You're gonna take the wrong foot, you're gonna have
a backside cutoff, and you're gonna cross over, and your stance.
We're gonna have to fix your all that will coach
when you come play our team. Our goal is when

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you're sitting in the stands on the other team, It's like,
I'm not sure if I want my kid out there.
This is fast, it's violent. They're playing to the ball
like and I'm talking within the confines. We don't like
no dirty stuff, Like we don't tea. We have no
patience in tolerance for any of the extra stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:48:06):
We finished though, but we are playing.

Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
We always say to the kid, we're playing real football.

Speaker 9 (01:48:10):
We're here to take the mother.

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
We're to do dirty, but we're taking that light.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
No, we never we're not hitting people low. We're not
teaching people to hit them in the legs. Like we
have the high school rules. You're not allowed. Like there's
no chop blocking, there's no cut blocking, like everything's above
the ways. So kids are protecting in that regard. But
like we don't strike with our helmets, we don't strike
with the top, but we do strike with our face masks,
and we do block with our face. Our hands are
behind my hands, My face is behind my hands, and

(01:48:37):
I'm striking coming off the ball. I mean, we're we're
playing real football like our job. And a year orwo
the kids are gona be playing high school ball and
we playing a very competitive league. We got real dudes,
O our running back just committed to Nebraska. Charlotte Christian
High School came through twelve school so our high school,
uprising senior running back Jamal Rule just two days ago

(01:49:00):
committed to Nebraska's go.

Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
You're the school you're coaching at is K through twelve.
So there's a high school coaching staff. Yeah, that is
watching Greg Olsen and Louke Keighley coaching middle schoolers.

Speaker 2 (01:49:13):
We're on that. We share the field.

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
Yeah, but you know the high school kids are like, well,
why the fuck aren't they coaching us?

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
We haven't And I'm not just saying that high schools
are running practice.

Speaker 1 (01:49:22):
Like yeah, hey, do you mind if we go over there?
Said no, bowl in the ring, that's what the fuck
we're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
No that he does a really good job, Chris James.
Charlotte Christian is a school. He does a really good job.
We have a We're not a big school. We got
one hundred and fifty boys in a grade, one hundred
total kids, so we're not going to roll out there
with seventy five kids on a Friday night in uniform,
so it's a smaller group. But we got college bound kids.
We sent two kids in Notre Dame last year. Bryant
Young's kid Bryce defensive end at Notre Dame six eight

(01:49:50):
monster wide receiver at Notre Dame. Both in the same
class Micah. They played in the National Championship last year
as freshman. I mean we got we we put some
real dudes into the league, into the into the college.
We just don't have a million of them because it's
just a small school.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
Yeah. Well, when you're talking about doing thud, not taking
guys to the ground, what's the anxiety level for you
on tacking quality? Tackling quality the first game of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
I want to see us play violent, like we are
gonna teach. We are gonna run you might with We
might got to teach keeping our head up and striking backside.
And we're big on like we set firm edges like
every one of our practices. We are setting hard edges
our inside, our inside backers, like our run and chase
guys like some of our better players, Like we're all

(01:50:34):
inside out hit men. We don't overrun the ball if
the ball gets outside the numbers on a high school field,
like somebody really screwed up. Everything we do is perimeter edges.
Squeeze this field, and we go to make them play
as tight as they can, and when that ball hits vertical,
we are we are coming in hot like we are
coming in striking inside hips and running through so we'll overrun.

(01:50:57):
We'll have bad pre snap technique, We'll have false steps.
Our lineman won't get off on the ball, will jump
off sides like that normal. They're thirteen, they're young. That
stuff will happen all season long. We don't teach running
full speed to the ball. We are not coaching that.
Like if you do not run full speed to the
ball and you do not chase, and you're not gonna
play like, that's it. And we always tell the kids

(01:51:21):
this is not a big versus little. We have little
kids who play. We have big kids who don't play.
We have fast kids, slow kids. We got kids of
all shapes and sizes. We don't care how good you
are or whether you've ever put a helmet on before.
That is not a requirement. We don't cut. We had
zero kids quit last year. The roster we started with
in summer was the roster we ended with. If you

(01:51:42):
show up every day willing to be coached and willing
to learn and do things to the best of your ability,
we will find something for you to do. You might
not be the running back, but you might not be
the running back rut team. We'd take it. You'd play,
you think, so I can find a job for you
right now. But yeah, like and when we you know,

(01:52:03):
we do we demo drills. It's like, all right, Stu, Stu,
you're the back. Show these guys the path of how
we want to get to the edge. All right, Luke,
he's going through the bag. He's teaching inside out, downhill,
never overrun inside hip trail. I mean, like Luke is
demonstrating and Stu's running with the ball, and I just
get to stand there and orchestrate like it's that's pretty cool.

Speaker 9 (01:52:21):
So that's your that's clearly your day one. Opening speech
is the full squad? You keep the full squad intact?
What is the griggles? And halftime speech.

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
Depends what the score of the game is. Say you're down,
say you're down seven. You shouldn't be down seven. We
shouldn't be down. So so so halftime, he's not finished
into the football. We have no patience for that ship.
So so I'll tell you, I'll tell you what halftime
looks like for us. There's no locker rooms, right, it's

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it's grab the water, you know, one of the young
seventh graders, grab the water. Little carrier thing you know,
has like the six sections of the water. Bring it
over to the bench, Take your helmets off, sit down,
catch your breath. We'll get them together. I coach the
O line and D line like that's my jam. I
spend every day, every minute with the O line D line.
We alternate offense defense days back and forth. Most of

(01:53:12):
our good kids played both ways, just because we don't
have enough kids. But yeah, it's offensive line. Where our corrections.
Is it the front we practiced all week? Is the
front different? Are we coming off the ball? Are we finishing?
And we get you know, all just offensive line driven stuff.
But then we take like a four and a half
minute break because my daughters on the cheerleading team, so
we make all the boys stop and they got to

(01:53:34):
watch the girls dance. So they come out and they
do like their halftime routine. So like I'm on all
over these middle school kids and we're coaching our ass
off and then it's like stop, and then I'm like
dance mom, you know, I'm like dance mom watching talbot,
Good job, buddy, Why are the why we gotta get
burmer in our double teams? And who's the left? Hey,

(01:53:55):
we gotta set this edge that ball, you know, And
then you go back to like wearing and the girls
are like running off with their pomp poms and I'm like,
good job, honey, you did so good. And then you're
just like back wearing the kids out. So it's it's
a it's a mix of both. Like we tell the
kids all the time, and we tell the parents, we
no one is gonna love your kids more than us.
No one wants to see your kids have more success

(01:54:16):
than us. But we are gonna coach the shit out
of your kid, but we are gonna get to the
point where they trust us and they know we love them,
and they know we want to pour into them with
everything we have. Before you coach the shit out of them,
you gotta get to that level first, because if not,
it just feels like you're attacking them. And for these
middle school kids, it's a different day and age now,

(01:54:37):
Like they're not used to being yelled at, they're not
used to being coached, So like we got to make
sure like we're not yelling at you because we don't
like you. We're talking loud. It's football, it's intense. You're
across the field, like we're not gonna stand here and
I'm not gonna signal into you, like we're not playing baseball, right, Like,
if I need to get a hold of the corner
on the far side of the field, like I'm gonna
scream across the stadium and everyone in the stadium is

(01:54:57):
gonna hear me. But if he needs to be inside
leverage because he on the backside one receiver, Like, move
your ass inside and you give up a slant, we're
gonna be pissed.

Speaker 1 (01:55:07):
Yeah, Like we're gonna be praying for that cheerleading break
at halftime because yea, hey, coach, I think they're coming
out early. That's great. We'll work on the slant. We'll
work on the slant a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
And he gives up a touchdown. He's like cheerleading coaches, like,
I will give you anything for this dance to go
the entire Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:55:27):
He's bribing that. He's bribing the coach in the corner.

Speaker 9 (01:55:30):
Crazy. How different it just was like us growing up
in the drills we would be doing compared to everything
that you seem to be teaching with the squad. Now,
like bull in the ring we played Duk Dug Goose,
you'd beholding the ball. You be holding the ball, and
you'd be going around the squad. This is one we're
like like you and then you take off sprint. Old

(01:55:52):
buddy gets up, sprints the other way and you just
collide me, You just collide.

Speaker 1 (01:55:56):
I feel that circle because you know he's getting picked
like seven times.

Speaker 2 (01:56:01):
That kid's going home that night. He's tired, he's quitting,
he's done.

Speaker 1 (01:56:04):
That's how you do with the same roster at the end.

Speaker 6 (01:56:06):
Of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:56:07):
There's a lot of basketball players made a football.

Speaker 1 (01:56:09):
Practice, no doubt about it. You know what.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
The gym's air conditioned. Could I didn't play much, but
like no one ran through my skull?

Speaker 1 (01:56:16):
Yeah, exactly, good, I get it. You talked about the parents,
are you like they know one's gonna love your kids
more than we love your kids. They're gonna trust us.
You've had to have run across the carin or two. Yeah,
and your time. How are we handling that?

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
Our approaches? I over communicate and maybe to a fault.
Sometimes I don't do the whole regardless of the sport, right,
So you think growing up in baseball, after the game,
the coach takes the team out in deep left field
and it's just the coach and the kids. And then
you get in the car with your kid and you're like, hey,
what coach say. It's like, uh, they're twelve, they don't

(01:56:50):
know what just happened five seconds ago. Let alone relay
an adults message good or bad, and relay it so like,
I never want the parents to be dependent on the
kids to know what I'm saying to their kids. So
we do our post game stuff right there behind the dugout.
I want everyone to come. I want people to come
to our practice. I want parents to sit in the stands.

(01:57:10):
I want people to know what we're saying to your kid.
We would say in front of you, like there's no
secrets here. There's no I'm going to tell your kid
one thing, but then I'm going to say something else
to the parent. Like we are very transparent in what
we do, how we coach. We don't apologize for it,
Like we are going to pour in so much of
our time and energy into your kids because we love it.

(01:57:33):
If you have a problem, not everyone's gonna like what
we do. You might not like the position your kid plays,
or how much he plays, or as they get older,
obviously playing time is a little bit different. At the
young age. Everybody plays like we don't like we were
not in the business to play eight kids and five
of them stand on the sideline, you know, sit in
the dugout. So we get everyone involved to the best

(01:57:53):
of our ability and give everybody a role. I'm very
clear that if a parent wants to call me and
he wants to talk through like, I have no problem
with that. You're the parent. They're too young to remove
the parent from the process. Now, if I was their
high school coach college, I'm not going to answer to
your mom about what we're doing. Like, that's just not
the business. But at the young age, you have to

(01:58:15):
engage the families. I want my kids coaches to communicate
with me. Where does my kid need to get better,
where's he falling short, where's he doing well? What's his role?
Like I would love to know that because when I
asked my kid, they don't know, so like there's a
miscommunicat there's a communication barrier there. So I have no
problems with our families being super engaged be around our practices,
ask questions, see how we coach, see what we do.

(01:58:37):
I encourage it, I like it. I don't want any secrets.
But if you ask me a question, just be prepared
for the answer. That's it, and that's that's the simplest
way to do it. And we've been very, very fortunate
that for the years we've been doing this in all
different sports and different girls boys ages, we've had really

(01:58:58):
good families, like people that I think in the beginning
are kind of this is a lot like this, and
then after it clicks and they see the sparkle off
in their kids eye and all of a sudden, the
kids doing things they didn't think were possible, It's like, okay,
just go keep going. Because the kids that's coming home
to me after each day is a better version of

(01:59:18):
my kid than I had when we started. That's our goal. Yeah,
and whether they're a better football player or not, that'd
be great, But like confidence, character, how they carry themselves,
like our families will tell us. Like for these summer workouts,
we start at eight am Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursdays all summer long,
eight am at the field. These kids are up seven
o'clock in the summer up downstairs, breakfast made cleats on.

(01:59:41):
Come on, mom, we got to go. I can't be
late to practice. If we only accomplish that, we're doing
a great job in middle school football.

Speaker 9 (01:59:49):
Amen, dude, that's all with that. We looking at eight
no this year.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
Yeah, I'm going on the record, Joe Namath, Okay, breaking
with the boys. Where our goals to win every game
we play.

Speaker 9 (02:00:05):
You're not worried at all about the other eight teams
that might just go.

Speaker 2 (02:00:09):
We have good teams. There's good teams in our league.

Speaker 9 (02:00:13):
You want to know you're coming.

Speaker 2 (02:00:14):
We'll be ready.

Speaker 9 (02:00:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:00:16):
You ever watch across the field you see one of
those boys that are maybe a little more developed on
the other team, and you you wannare you play linebacker?

Speaker 2 (02:00:27):
You know who?

Speaker 6 (02:00:28):
That is?

Speaker 1 (02:00:29):
What was the recruiting process like getting Luke on your
team to coach easy?

Speaker 2 (02:00:33):
Free, I give free pizzasts, We go free pizza. You
the amount of days Luke and I sit at like
we we have like our Monday routine. We go to
lunch every Monday and we sit there and it's like
salt and pepper shakers. All right, they come out in
two by two spread. How are we gonna how are

(02:00:54):
we gonna get the nickel and know which way he's
gonna go because there's no tight end?

Speaker 9 (02:00:57):
All right?

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
Hey, how are we gonna make the big call? How
are we gonna set the front? The kids only notice
set the front to the tight end side. They're not
going to have a tight end this week? Do we
want to back? Like we're sitting there? The amount of
time and energy we are spending on third and hour
thirteen and fourteen year old football. I don't know if
I'm proud of it or embarrassed by it.

Speaker 1 (02:01:18):
We gotta go out for a game this year. We
need to go out for a game this year and
blog it.

Speaker 9 (02:01:22):
Yeah, could we mike you up?

Speaker 2 (02:01:24):
Yeah, that would be say it's a Christian school.

Speaker 1 (02:01:29):
Okay, so we we of flips the flip? Are we
doing out there? Gosh? Dang yeah? Like Jesu and Rice?

Speaker 2 (02:01:36):
Guys, come on, we have to be careful. I remind
my dad a lot. I'm my dad. This is not
nineteen ninety public school in New Jersey, where no one
even right, no one even, no one even hurt. You
said it, and it never even dawned on anyone that
you dropped an F bomb.

Speaker 9 (02:01:50):
We we got it understood.

Speaker 1 (02:01:52):
The demonstrative things that coaches would say to your face.
What do you think is the worst thing a coach
ever said to you growing up?

Speaker 2 (02:01:59):
I don't know if it was my dad one time,
remember rock them socking robots where you could punch each
other and then someone's head would pop up, and that's
how you'd win. My dad one time, he thought i'd
it was a pregame walk through walk through high school.
I was probably a sophomore junior. We're just in pants, cleats, helmets,

(02:02:20):
no shoulder pads. So you're out there. You got your
skin tight cut off on. It's cut. Remember we'd all
like cut our shirts and like your mount sir, we
did you you'd have like a drive.

Speaker 9 (02:02:33):
But even if you didn't have a draft, and you'd
have like an old school cott.

Speaker 2 (02:02:35):
And raggedy cut off. So we'd only have that on.
You thought you were jacked? You want you saw my
pictures speakers, Yeah, some of us were. We weren't juicing yet.
So I get back to the huddle on he thought
I jogged, hence it was a walk through practice. So
my brother overthrows me ball lands I come back. We

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we huddled with the lineman's back to the line of scrimmage,
and then the skill players would stand in the front
with their hands on their knees. Quarterback would call to play,
facing the line of scrimmage, so lineman would call and go.
So he's standing next to the quarterback facing me, and
I'm facing out with my back to the line. And
I guess I didn't answer him. I guess he didn't
like my answer. I might have given like a smart

(02:03:16):
ass answer about something or and he uppercuted my face mask,
a buckled face mask, a buckle chin, buckled helmet. He
punches my face mask and knocks my whole helmet, chin
strap and all completely rock him, sock him, robot in
me right off the top of my helmet. So I
put my helmet back on and I ran the route
next time, full speed, dad. So he was allowed to

(02:03:40):
do that in a jog through in pregame. We won
the game.

Speaker 9 (02:03:47):
Conversation didn't pop up after the game or anything.

Speaker 2 (02:03:50):
Hey, good game, we're good. We just have to set
the tone. He hit my face mask, so he didn't.

Speaker 9 (02:04:00):
Hit whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:04:02):
Your dad, and we're gonna got your bag, man. He
didn't skinned the skin, did not happen. You get it.

Speaker 2 (02:04:07):
Hey, But he would always tell us, He's like, hey,
sometimes I gotta use your boys to set the tone
here because your mind and I don't have to answer
to the mother. I don't have to answer to the
other kids mother. He's I gotta go home and I'll answer.
But that's in my own house. Yeah, we were, it was, thankfully,
he's he's mellowed. He has not ever punched any of

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the kids, including my own helmets off. So that's a polive.

Speaker 1 (02:04:31):
Yeah, that'd be a tough conversation to happen.

Speaker 9 (02:04:36):
Yeah, a lot of flips.

Speaker 2 (02:04:41):
We've been good, thankfully, we've been good.

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Back to this episode, Let's play a crystal ball game.
Love that your kids develop into stars. They're a four star,
five star recruit. How heavy are you pressing on them
to go to the you not?

Speaker 2 (02:05:36):
I'm not?

Speaker 1 (02:05:36):
Are there you fans though?

Speaker 2 (02:05:37):
Oh yeah, we love. I mean I would love them
to go there, and if they asked me, I would
tell them about my experiences there. But Miami's not for everyone.
Ohio State's not for everyone, right, like I think, especially whoever, Michigan, Nebraska, whoever.
My point was big school, small schools, private public. Miami

(02:05:57):
is a small, little private school in Coral Game. If
you drove by it, you woudn't even know it was there.
It was great for me. It was great for my
competitive spirit, it was great for my development. It was
great for getting me outside my comfort zone and getting
me outside in my box I grew up in. But
it's not for everybody, Like maybe I went to Ohio
State or Michigan or Nebraska, and that might not have
been for me. So I'm a big believer. If they

(02:06:19):
asked me, I'd tell them all the positives that I had.
But like, they've got to find a path that suits
their needs and they've got to find a school. So
if they were ever in that position, and who knows
if they will or not, Like they've got to go
where they can make their own path there. And if
it's Miami, great, but if it's somewhere else, awesome. Like
I'm not going to tell my kids where to go

(02:06:41):
to school by that point, Like they've got to start
learning making decisions. I went to Notre Dame. I signed
a Notre Dame out of high school. It lasted three months,
my first ever adult decision. I got there and I
was like, ooh, that not for me, and transferred to
Miami before the season even started. So like, you've got
to go through some of those bat you got to
go through some of those moments. You can't just tell

(02:07:01):
your kid go here to here to here, to hear
to here, because they're going to grow up and they're
not gonna have any ability to make decisions. And if
they make bad decisions. How do you get out of
it and get to a better one? So I would
I love them to go there, of course, my wife
and I both went there, but I don't need them
to go there.

Speaker 9 (02:07:16):
Yeah, I mean I I feel the same. But you
ain't going anywhere in the Big Ten.

Speaker 2 (02:07:22):
My dad went to went to college, actually went to
college in Nebraska, Midland, Midland Lutheran College, and oh yeah, yeah, Nebrasca.
So he's got a lot of Nebraska tize. But uh, yeah,
I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 9 (02:07:33):
You let your kids go in towhere the I'm saying
that you don't have to go to Nebraska. You're gonna
know that. I want you to go there, but you
can go somewhere else. But it's going to be outside
of the Big Ten.

Speaker 2 (02:07:43):
They're not going to Purdue. Yeah, what about Michigan about.

Speaker 12 (02:07:49):
You?

Speaker 2 (02:07:51):
They're not gonna be Michigan men.

Speaker 1 (02:07:52):
No, No, first off, let's talk about what about education,
Like Michigan's a top top fifteen public school in the world.

Speaker 9 (02:08:00):
Well, I think we have the most academic all Americans
in college football.

Speaker 1 (02:08:04):
The bars pretty low. If the end stance for knowledge.

Speaker 9 (02:08:07):
Warren Buffett the Oracle right down the road.

Speaker 1 (02:08:13):
All right, So you guys have different parenting styles.

Speaker 9 (02:08:18):
So you let you you let him go to uh
Florida State.

Speaker 1 (02:08:21):
Yeah, Florida State.

Speaker 2 (02:08:25):
Here's my take on like team allegiances and stuff. Don't
get me wrong, I love Miami. I have great memories.
They were a big part of my journey. Met my
wife there, our family. Like love Miami everything about it.
If all three of my kids went there, great, Now
it's one hundred grand a year, so they better be
damn good at whatever they do. But we'll still pay
for it. But like I if they went to Florida, Like,

(02:08:49):
I'm not that guy that's like, you cannot say the
word Florida State in my house. I played for the Bears.
The Packers are sacrilegious that you know in Carolina like Atlanta,
I'm like, do we really give two shit? Like I
just I'm not a big like team rivalry guy.

Speaker 1 (02:09:06):
I like people, Now has that been a thing that
you are now? But what about when you were at
Miami was like Florida State, you still were a zoom.

Speaker 2 (02:09:14):
I mean, the Florida State game was huge, don't get
me wrong, But like when you're in that moment, that's
all you know it's you. You're drinking.

Speaker 1 (02:09:21):
You're fully invested in.

Speaker 2 (02:09:23):
On the team. But I'm just saying now like taking
a step back and removing myself. Like Mario Cristoball is
the head coach at Miami. He was my tight end coach.
He recruited me when he was at Rutgers with Greg Cianno.
When I was in high school, I met. I met
Mario when I was a sixteen year old kid in
high school. I went down to the Miami camp. He
then went to Rutgers with Greg, recruited me there, ended

(02:09:45):
up coming back to Miami and was my position coach.
Now he's the head coach. When he was the head
coach at Oregon, I took my boys out to Oregon
and spent some time with him, and they all wore
Duck stuff. And now was I a diehard Oregon fan? No?
But when they were playing, would I hearing that Mario
had a lot of success? Yes, Like I cheer for
my people, I cheer for I've gotten to know Ryan Day.

(02:10:08):
Am I a diehard Ohio State fan?

Speaker 8 (02:10:10):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (02:10:11):
I've never cheered for Ohio State. Ohio step beat Miami
in that big national championship game and I was in
high school and I hated it and I wanted Miami
to win. But like I like Ryan Day. If Ryan
Day tomorrow is the coach at Michigan, or if if
Ryan Day went and became the coach at Oshkosh School,
I want him to do well. I'm just not like
so wrapped up blind into program and team and this

(02:10:31):
like school. Like my kids wanted to go to Florida State,
It'd be amazing. Let's just I don't know. I'm just.

Speaker 1 (02:10:40):
You can't judge other parents.

Speaker 9 (02:10:42):
I feel them on the relationships up. But when it
just comes with the kids.

Speaker 2 (02:10:45):
Going somewhere, So who like who's the like the no
brainer school? Your kids come home, daddy, Daddy, I'm so excited.
I just got my acceptance letter to here and you're
going not happening like where Iowa Iowa be one. So
you're so your kid comes in?

Speaker 9 (02:11:03):
My kids? My kid. If if Busting with the Boys
was still at any type of relevance, or if I
could still do any damage on the internet, if my
kid wanted to go there, they will publicly know where
I stand. Fair enough, and Husker Nations, would you still
with the battle for the borders happening, they won't see
me in black and yellow?

Speaker 2 (02:11:23):
Would you would you pay? Would you pay? Would you
still pay?

Speaker 1 (02:11:27):
The twist.

Speaker 2 (02:11:29):
If they said, Daddy, I love you. Boys or girls?

Speaker 9 (02:11:32):
Girls?

Speaker 2 (02:11:33):
If you think you're telling me.

Speaker 9 (02:11:37):
They're young, right, yeah, they're young.

Speaker 2 (02:11:40):
Okay, where's the fucking camera. Let me just I'm mark
mark this day right now. This guy is so full
of ship because he has you have two daughters. Yeah,
he's got two daughters. And if he thinks for one second,
the seventeen year old daughter who comes in and gives
daddy a hug, and her Iowa acceptance letter comes in

(02:12:02):
the mail, and it's her dream because her and her
best friend are going to go there and room together
and join a sorority, and they're so excited. If you
think for a million years, he's not writing that tuition
check and giving her a hug and saying, I'm so
proud of you, honey, you're my baby. Girl. You're so
full of shit because guess what they're going and you're

(02:12:22):
writing the bill and you're gonna fake a smile and
you're gonna be there.

Speaker 1 (02:12:26):
You're gonna be in Iowa City and be like, yeah,
you know what places in half that I'm happy for
your city.

Speaker 12 (02:12:31):
Listen, if I'll go buy an Emmy Lives but I'm
wearing red, Listen, that's fine. Here's here's my friend. This
is my final take on this. This is my clearest
way I can put it. If my kid said, Dad,
tell us where to go, it's down to our final three.
We love them all, and Miami's in the mix. Obviously,
I'm saying, let's go to Miami like it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:12:53):
It's like yes. But if they came to me and said, Dad,
Miami is just not for me, Like I didn't like
the campus. I want to go somewhere bigger. I want
to state school, I want whatever whatever that they And
if it was Florida, Florida State, Michigan, Alabama, or a
community whatever, it was great, go to college, go learn,

(02:13:15):
be live your life, get a degree, make mistakes, learn
how to take care of your freaking dorm room. Yeah,
just I don't know, Like I didn't. I'm paying the
bill wherever they go, as long as they're good kids.

Speaker 9 (02:13:26):
And I think to like if if if I had
a son and he was good enough to go play
college or whatever, I think a lot of it. That
would I would think about too, is like who's coaching them?
When I said, it's like if they came back and
they're like, you know coach Laning Oregon offered, and you
knowing coach Lane and.

Speaker 1 (02:13:42):
Say, hey, that's a guy, that's that's a guy you
want to be right.

Speaker 9 (02:13:48):
Who else have we been around? I mean Moore, I
mean even Dillingham, Yeah, dude, Yeah, really, a lot of
the guys who've came across you kind of can tell
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:13:57):
If my daughter wanted to go to Issue, i'd have
a hard time with that.

Speaker 9 (02:14:01):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 1 (02:14:07):
I would tell him the same thing I would tell myself. Listen,
I ask you, you're already going here to see a
lot of beautiful girls. That's the reason why Daddy didn't
go to SU I'm from Arizona. I went down those streets.
I've been down Mill Avenue and I've looked both ways
and I didn't know which way to look because there's
so many beautiful girls. That's why Daddy went to Michigan.

(02:14:28):
That's why Daddy chose not because Daddy wanted to go
to the NFL. That's that's what I was. That's what
I'm telling my son my daughter. So we're having the conversation.
I also have two girls, seven and four.

Speaker 2 (02:14:39):
Daughters are different.

Speaker 1 (02:14:42):
Yeah, my daughter I I've told the story of multiple
times since this happened. But we're watching playoff hockey and
my daughter, my oldest daughter, she's not like she's she
could be athletic, she's just she's seven. I'm basically telling
her she's not very competitive, which is totally fine. But
We're sitting there watching playoff hockey together and I'm like, sweetheart,
you have the genetics. You have, like the ability, like

(02:15:03):
your mom's athletic, your dad. You know you've seen I
showed you the highlights. Yeah, right exactly. I was like,
if you wanted, you could play sports, and like you
could get your school paid for, you could do all
these things, like you could really make something if you
wanted to do this. And she sits back in this
chair and goes, you know them. I think I'm just
gonna be me. And that was the moment I was like,

(02:15:25):
I'm not going to press her at all anymore about
sports because she's always a daddy. You're always talking about sports.
I'm like, yeah, because it's really all daddy knew growing up,
So like, obviously I'm gonna try to get you into
these things. But now that I know that, So if
we're having the conversation at seventeen years old and she
has an excevance letter from Ohio State and she's like,
I want to go to Ohio State, I'm thinking, why
would you want to go there? It's not like a
predominant like educational school. Like it's not anything like that

(02:15:47):
Michigan Top fifteen public school. You want to go to
someone like that. There's a lot of other places. But
if she wanted to go to House State, I'm betting
the knee. I'm bet in the knee.

Speaker 2 (02:15:57):
It's just the way it goes.

Speaker 1 (02:15:58):
It is the way it goes.

Speaker 2 (02:15:59):
But I'll tell you one thing I will say though
about girls, I'm further down the latter year. Oldest is seven.
My daughter is twelve. She'll be thirteen in the fall.
So I got twins, boy girl twins. They'll be thirteen,
they'll be seventh graders. And then my oldest son is
eighth grade. So boys and girls very different maturity wise whatnot.

(02:16:20):
She wanted nothing to do with sports until probably like
two years ago, played like little soccer with her friends,
but like there was no training, there was no practicing,
there was no going out in the driveway, like she
had no interest. So it was pretty much just the
boys that were our sports experiences. About two years ago,

(02:16:40):
she played for a little school basketball team, took a
liking to basketball, started going out and like venturing into
some more of like competitive basketball roles. So now she's
when the boys do basketball training with the guy. Like
she's out there with the boys doing basketball training. She's
in the gym. She practiced. She just went out for
the track team at her school. Me and her just
drove to Greensboro for the Adidas Outdoor Track and Field

(02:17:01):
meet last weekend. And she's competing against some of the
best girls in the country. Granted she's sixth grade. Like yeah,
not that she's winning, not that she's the best or anything,
but like all I would say is for the girls
sometimes is the competitive side doesn't At least in my family,
it came out a little bit later. When the boys
were little. It was run around with a football in

(02:17:21):
their hand and let's go play catch, and daddy, let's
go hit off the tee. It took her a little
bit longer fifth grade, give her take fourth fifth grade.
But now she's as competitive and as strong and as
driven and as much of a dog as anybody, Like
she is a horse. So don't give up on it.
Don't don't give up on it. He didn't press her

(02:17:44):
like we had. We never in a millionaire thought she
was gonna really get much into sports outside of just
like recreation, fun, soccer or whatever. But she's competitive, like
right now, like literally as we speak, my wife's taking
her in. The two boys all the kids took you
know Kola. You know Brian Cooler trained McCaffrey and he

(02:18:05):
works at Battleground Academy. You know that school here in Franklin.
Do you guys live in Nashville. Yeah, we live, Okay, Yeah,
I wasn't sure I'm naming all these come from anyway,
So like they came down here. He's like a great
track and field coach, like that's his specialty, trained Anah
Hall and McCaffrey and all these people from Colorado. He
moved to Nashville within the last couple of months, So

(02:18:27):
like they're there. She's there doing a hurdle workout with him,
learning how to run hurdles, and they're gonna do speed day,
so like she'll work now, Like ask a.

Speaker 9 (02:18:35):
Lot of it too. With like young kids has got
to be just feeling confident, like maybe they're a little insecure.
They kind of shy away from maybe doing a sport
because they don't know if they're good at it yet.
I just like the idea too. It's like when you
get just getting kids obviously involved in sports, but you
have something that you were committed to doing, a place
that you have to be a place to show well
how you show up for the world, like how to

(02:18:56):
stay you know, started getting in those areas of like
discipline and everything else, and it's say, hey, if you
don't like doing it afterwards, we might find something else
to do for you during that season. It could be anything,
doesn't have to be sports, but something that you can
commit yourself to, because at some point you're gonna have
to start You're gonna have to start doing that. Like
when you go to school and you're committed to your grades,
you're committed to whatever whatever new things are going to be.

Speaker 2 (02:19:18):
Totally agree and and again we all just know sports,
so that's like the only avenue I know to teach
those lessons now.

Speaker 9 (02:19:24):
But we have the best lessons.

Speaker 2 (02:19:25):
It's again we're we haven't been exposed to the arts,
to music, to like I wasn't exposed to it. I
think a lot of people have great experiences doing that,
and I think that's wonderful. I don't know that world.
I didn't grow up in that world. So obviously our
life experiences to our kids are gonna be things that
we're comfortable with and be recognized because we got the

(02:19:47):
values out of it. So like our model with that
is like, we're not trying to do all this to
become professional athletes. If we were all trying to have
our kids play sports to be professional athletes, we should
all just stop. If that's the goal, you're wasting your time.
You better spending your time and energy doing other things.
It's all the other shit, being accountable, being on time,
doing something for other people. Having an authority figure that

(02:20:09):
maybe you don't like or you don't think it's giving
you the fair end of the deal, and.

Speaker 9 (02:20:12):
It's not your parents and they're trying to It's different
when you have a different authority figure. We're kind of
coaching you up and you're.

Speaker 2 (02:20:17):
Totally you're not going to talk crazy in front of
where else are you getting that?

Speaker 1 (02:20:20):
Yeah, it doesn't keep them well rounded. Like with my kids,
it's like, hey, you have to have an art, you
have to have a language, and you have to have
a sport. And right now their sport is like Brazilian
jiu jitsu jumping in that. My daughter wants to learn
Chinese because she saw how to train your dragon and
dragon the Chinese. It's all about it and they're taking
classes and stuff like that. So it's cool to see
these things that I know nothing about, but like they're
really enjoying it. They're about it. They have these like
canvases sitting outside, They're always painting and doing stuff. It's

(02:20:43):
just really it's cool because I'm like learning as I'm going.

Speaker 2 (02:20:46):
To totally, I would love my kids to be like that.
Like we stress trying to be well rounded. And then
like I take it. I take a look at myself
and I'm.

Speaker 9 (02:20:55):
Like, and you're there on a funday with salt and pepper.

Speaker 2 (02:20:59):
What do you do other than sports? So like I
growing up, like we did sports right, Like we didn't
go camping, you never went hunting. I can't tie a
fishing line. I'm not the guy to call like I
always joke, like the kids we go fishing the lake.
I'm like, yeah, let's call Luke. He lives around the
corner for me, Like, Luke's the guy that needs to
come put the lure on. Luke needs to come when

(02:21:19):
your school gets tied and nodded, Like you don't have
a dad that's good at that ship. But if you
need a dad to come coach your team and you
want to be good at that, like I can be
good at that.

Speaker 1 (02:21:28):
Yeah, yeah, I can do that.

Speaker 2 (02:21:29):
I can help outside of that, Like I'm not the
guy to teach you how to pitch a tent.

Speaker 1 (02:21:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. We have like three minutes before,
so we have a couple questions. Let's go broadcasting. You've
obviously dude, you you crush it. You're very the way
you're able to express yourself to the viewer that's listening
that might not a whole lot about football. When you
have a wealth of knowledge, you do a great job
of letting the casual view or understand the game of
football in those three hours that you're seeing in the booth.

Speaker 2 (02:21:56):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:21:56):
Tom Brady comes in. There's been a whole lot of
conversations about well, Tom Brady he gets thrust into this role.
Is there like a rivalry type of thing between you two.
I know you've commented a little bit about it, but
how do you feel when all this stuff is going on.
You've kind of put a lot of work in and
Tom being Tom kind of gets thrust it up to
the top right away.

Speaker 9 (02:22:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:22:14):
And again, it's not something that I've shied away from,
and I'm happy to talk about it and be honest
with it. That the simplest way to put it is
like anybody you guys in your world wanting to be
at the top of the charts, and you want to
That doesn't mean these other people aren't your buddies. It
doesn't mean that you're not also pulling for them to
have success, like everyone who's motivated to be a high
achiever in any industry, whether it's in the podcast world

(02:22:37):
or whether it's in broadcasting, whether it's in coaching, athlete whatever.
Ever since I've been little, I've always wanted to be good.
Whatever I'm doing, i want to be good at it,
and I'm gonna do everything in my power to be
as good I'm ever going to be the best. I
don't have to be the best at it, but I'm
gonna be whatever my best is. I don't I don't
really have I don't know how else to do it.
I don't like doing things that I'm not particularly good at,

(02:22:59):
Like I don't enjoy that I am going golfing. But
like so when it comes to the situation with Tom
and the games, like, I was very lucky that in
my second year the things went down the way they
did with Joe and Troy leaving that me and Kevin
got got promoted to being the top number one team
and we were happened to be a super Bowl year,
so we were going to call that super Bowl, we

(02:23:19):
called the Philly Kansas City Game. But we knew going
in that Tom Tom had signed a futures deal in
essence to be to be determined whenever he was done
playing when it's going to start. But he had a
deal on the table before I got elevated from the
two crew with Kevin to the one crew. So that
was the order of events of how all that went down.

(02:23:41):
So I knew going in I was going to call
the A crew for a year and past that was TBD.
It ended up being two years, so I got the
super Bowl year one additional year, and then Tom came.
I really enjoy broadcasting. I love football, I love talking ball,
I love talking to the guys. I love learning. I've

(02:24:01):
learned more as a broadcaster about other aspects of football
that maybe I didn't wasn't as privy to playing in
the last five years than maybe been fourteen years of playing.
I enjoy the process of learning. I enjoy the process
of presenting the game to an audience in a fun way,
in a cool way, maybe ways they're not used to hearing.
Whatever that is. Tom and I's relationship, both professionally and

(02:24:23):
personally is really good. Like we've gone I've said this before,
like we've spent the day golf and together. He sent
a hype up video to my team before their pop
first middle school game last year, which was super cool,
and the kids we lost.

Speaker 1 (02:24:36):
Jesus, Tom, you.

Speaker 2 (02:24:38):
Need a better video. We're gonna redo it this year.
We're gonna resett. Yeah, yeah, we're.

Speaker 1 (02:24:41):
Gonna a case for people saying you guys don't have
because you guys did lose that game.

Speaker 2 (02:24:45):
So that's really where the animosity comes from. It's not
taking people that we lost the game.

Speaker 9 (02:24:50):
And a couple of high videos out there if you
ever need some way to step in.

Speaker 2 (02:24:53):
No f bombs, just flips.

Speaker 9 (02:24:54):
I got you.

Speaker 2 (02:24:56):
Christian school, Christian school friendly. But like you know, we've
spent a lot of time I'm on the phone, you know,
talking broadcasting, but also talking about raising teenage daughters. Like
we have a lot of other things in common that
we've formed a better personal relationship since he's joined Fox
then we had when we were both playing. We knew
each other, we'd see each other before and after games.
It was a very casual professional relationship me and him.

(02:25:19):
I have spent a lot of time together, a lot
of time talking professionally, a lot of time personally. I
have zero animosity for Tom. I don't sit there saying
I hope they're broadcast stinks. I hope at all. That
is independent from my personal aspirations of I want to
take this to the highest level I can. I want
to call Super Bowls. I want to get to a
top crew. I want to continue to elevate and see

(02:25:41):
how high in the industry that I can get. Those
things can both simultaneously exist. My ascension individually does not
have to come at the expense of him. It does
not have to come in animosity towards him. If he
has a long career in this industry, so can I.
Those two things are not so that's the way I

(02:26:01):
look at it. I'm going to go in this year
to hopefully have a great year and continue to present
the game in a fun way. I have a great
crew with Joe and Pam and my crew at Fox
is awesome, and I hope to do this for the
next twenty years.

Speaker 5 (02:26:13):
And what that looks like.

Speaker 2 (02:26:14):
I don't think you know what What does this look
like for twenty years? No one knows. But that's my
that's my approach to towards all of it.

Speaker 9 (02:26:21):
Love it, dude, are very very last question. You know
people would do anything for a bud light? What would
you do anything for?

Speaker 1 (02:26:29):
You can't say family.

Speaker 9 (02:26:30):
I feel like he if he did say family, he'd
have a very good answer if he wanted to go
that route. Doesn't have to.

Speaker 2 (02:26:35):
Yeah, I mean family, I think is probably at the
top of everybody's list, right like you, you would, you
would go to the end of the earth for your kids.
And you know, for as much as sometimes they aggravate
you and they frustrate you, and you know they don't
want to listen at the end of the day, when
you take a step back, man, that's what all of
it's about, right, It's about your your family and your
wife and your kids and giving them a better giving
them a better opportunity than maybe you had, and paying

(02:26:57):
it forward, and you know, hopefully they go on to
make great impactful lives. Like I think that'd be everyone's
cliche answer, even though it's the truth. I mean, I professionally,
I would probably give anything to go back and be
able to replay our Super Bowl. So twenty fifteen, we
were seventeen and one. We won fifteen regular season games,
were we ran, we had. We had a tight game

(02:27:20):
in the divisional round against Seattle. We were up thirty
to nothing at halftime, ended up having to recover an
on sitees kick. We didn't score in the second half.
Russell Wilson almost brought them back and beat us. We won.
We blew the doors off Arizona. We scored forty five
points in the NFC Championship game. So I mean we
had scored almost ninety points collectively between the divisional and
it's a great picture. I looked thrilled in the back,

(02:27:42):
you know, So I look back on that season and
there's a little like wait, that was a wasted moment, right,
like we we were on the cusp of a history
of the most wins ever for a Super Bowl team
in NFL history. We would have been eighteen. We would
have been eighteen and one super Bowl champs. No team
at every won eighteen game won the Super Bowl. And

(02:28:02):
we were the best offense in football. And we shipped
down our leg We were terrible. We turned them all
over a bunch. We didn't score. Think we scored ten points.
We were averaging thirty to a game, scored forty seven
against who was the next best team record wise was
Arizona that year. I think they won thirteen games. We
beat him forty five to seventeen. I mean, it was

(02:28:23):
a bloodbath in the NFC Championship. But as you guys know,
you get one shot. It's not best to five, it's
not best to seven. I would give anything not to
win the Super Bowl, like go back and just play
it one more time, and maybe we would have lost again.

Speaker 1 (02:28:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:28:37):
They were damn good. Denver was good.

Speaker 1 (02:28:39):
Knowing your mind frame about like effort, finishing like we like,
if you're not gonna do that, You're not gonna play
for my Papa warrant team. Yeah, we'll go through your mind.
When you see Cam Newton double clutch on that fumble.

Speaker 2 (02:28:49):
You know, I think to the outside world and I
mean this sincerely. This is not me covering for Cam.
Of every guy I've ever played with, if there was
ever a guy that you did not have to question
his physicality, his toughness, his competitiveness, it was Cam. And
that is not a cliche cover for him. Like if

(02:29:10):
he if he pulled up in the moment for that ball,
and he's talked about it, he's like, man, if I
could go back, that's probably I've heard him talk about
on his podcast, Like in the moment, that was not
I'm scared to go get hit, I'm scared to go
dive down on the ball. There was, as we all
have been there in time, your reaction to what you
see in the moment and feel, and you're it's hard

(02:29:31):
to really even quantify what you do. You react. For
ten years, I watched that guy put his life on
his body, his life, his career on the line in
big moments, in meaningful games, in Wednesday practice, in training camp,
all between. If there's one people want to knock Cam
for a lot of things, find you cannot knock him

(02:29:55):
for not being competitive, for not being tough, and when
it came time to going out there to play that
dude played his ass off every day. He was unbelievable
every day.

Speaker 9 (02:30:08):
You wish he would have said he would have traded
in his MVP for a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (02:30:13):
That's a longer conversation but short answers, Yeah, I would
rather he traded his no. I Again, there's always context
with Cam and those of us that have spent a
lot of time with him always can view the things
that he says that maybe to the outside scene, but
we're viewing it through a lens of ten years now

(02:30:35):
fifteen years of being around him and really knowing him intimately,
how he how he thinks, how he responds, how he
body language, all of it. Like we have a very
keen idea of his good days, is not like we
really understood what made him tick and and he was
the pulse of the team. He was that, he was
the center of the locker room. He was everything everyone

(02:30:55):
saw from the outside that was genuine like he was
like that he would run for a touchdown on the
last play of inside run period on a Wednesday and
Week sixteen, we would have to make any quarterback pole
play the last play of the period because if we
were running it from the say the minus thirty and
that was just where the ball was marked, he would
run seventy yards to the goal line and he would

(02:31:18):
put the ball on top of the fence like he scored,
and it was like him handing the ball to the
stands like he was his touchdown thing. He did that
in practice one hundred percent of the time for ten years.
We would have to change the script and make sure
that any play he would have the ball was the
last play because if it was play three, we'd have
to wait for him to run seventy yards back and

(02:31:41):
call the next play in the huddle. So when he
was running back, the defense would go and we were
off the field and the defense would do their period,
and by the time he came back, it was time
for seven on seven or whatever the period was like.
That was every single day. So when he talks about
MVP Versus winning the Super Bowl, I think the point
he's trying to lay out was he took such great

(02:32:02):
pride in the season he had that year winning m
VP on clearly the best team up into the Super Bowl.
The versus there's a lot of guys that have won
super Bowls but didn't have nearly the level of impact
that he had as the reason you want. There's a
lot of guys who have super Bowl rings and were
on super Bowl winning teams, but that in his again,

(02:32:22):
his message was, that's a big difference between I won
our team a super Bowl. I was one of the
big factors of winning our team a super Bowl, right,
wrong or indifferent? I think that's the lens that he
was trying to present that by. But like I think
we all would be like, hey, can we love you
to the end of the earth, but if we could
have won a super Bowl, Like you're gonna have to
take that one for the team. I love you and

(02:32:45):
you're my guy forever, but like you're like, super Bowl,
let's take that. We're going to have that and you're
still great. Yeah, you're still great. But uh yeah man,
it's uh so yeah, that would probably be that was tough,
like we and we never could find it again. You know,
we had almost the same exact team in twenty sixteen,
and I think we won six games Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:33:04):
You hear about a year about guys that are young
that make the playoffs early and they kind of like
lose the division round or losing the championship round, and
older guys are like, just so you know, it doesn't
always go like us, and you never know until you know.
Because we were in nineteen, we went to the AFC Championship.
We had essentially the same guys here. I do love it.
You're run a pause.

Speaker 2 (02:33:26):
I sit here all there with you guys, Taylor.

Speaker 9 (02:33:29):
It feels like on maybe seventy percent of pods, like
at twenty nineteen, that was.

Speaker 2 (02:33:36):
That was our twenty fifteen.

Speaker 1 (02:33:37):
You got to bring it up as much as you
can the chiefs eighty percent of the time. Will just
wants to bring up his pick six in the Capitol
One game against Georgia, but he his team up thirteen
to seven.

Speaker 2 (02:33:47):
You know what, my favorite? Are we still rolling? Yep?
Can we just address the elephant in the room. Me
and you have talked about this, but I don't know
if we've talked about this on the open forum. You
don't like when you hear a story about your former
self and you look back and you're like, don't love it,
Like not proud of it, brought me in the moment,
didn't react when I when is this.

Speaker 8 (02:34:08):
This must be.

Speaker 2 (02:34:12):
Oh tackle eligible score? I got tackled on the one
in that stadium one year. He came to tell you, guys,
you've told this story. We're playing each other, You're with Washington,
and you knock.

Speaker 9 (02:34:24):
The ball away from me. You just had like a
little like a.

Speaker 2 (02:34:28):
Or whatever and broke and you gave like the typical
like it was a four yard knockdowns like Spider Man.
He gave me webs. He gave me like full on.

Speaker 1 (02:34:41):
He was cut throat.

Speaker 2 (02:34:42):
I mean, it was like every celebration that Defender's ever done.
So I just remember and it was like the first quarter.
It was not like third down game on the line.
It was like the game started at the game started
at one. I think this completion was like at one
o seven. Nobody was even in the stands yet, and

(02:35:05):
he's webbing me, Spider manning me. He's got all sorts
of wristbands on. I mean, he's got a lot going on.
And I just remember turning around and you've told the story.
And immediately after I said it, I was like God
that I felt real, like that I shouldn't. That felt bad.
I wasn't a ship talker, never really got into stuff

(02:35:25):
with Like my kids asked me all the time, like,
da did you ever talk shit? I'm like the whole
game all I could think about was catch my breath
and when do I get to go sit back on
the bench to like regroup. Like I had no time
or energy to be into like pissing matches between plays.
I was exhausted. I don't know, but it was early
in the game. I was full of pisson vinegar, you know.

(02:35:46):
And I turned around and I remember and I was
something along the lines of like who the who the
fuck are you at this point? I had some good years,
like I was pretty productive, and I was like maybe
feeling myself too much. And the second I said it
said it, he kind of looked at me with like that,
like really.

Speaker 1 (02:36:03):
Dude, Like same, I say, hey, man, I'll work for
this spot.

Speaker 2 (02:36:08):
And I remember, so we get off the field and
we come back on and we're in like a TV timeout. Yeah,
and I was like, I just it didn't fit. I
don't know. I don't know why I felt I was
like a little pussy. I guess I felt. I don't
know I was being sensitive in the moment, I guess,
and I walked over and I was like, hey, man,
like we're good. I shouldn't have said that, but like,
good play, sorry about that, and we was like, no, man,

(02:36:30):
we're good. We're good. You know, but like years ago,
I hadn't thought about it, Like I hadn't thought about after.
But when you told that story, however many years ago,
I'm here and I heard it. I was like I heard,
like that was fucked up, Like I shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 8 (02:36:45):
I was not proud.

Speaker 2 (02:36:46):
So I just want to address it in front of
the boys. Yeah, all of you guys, like, that's on me.
I'm proud that I fixed it in the moment. Good
about that, but like you were busting your ass and
you earn that spot.

Speaker 9 (02:36:59):
Now it's not and it's it's the it's the ship
talking moment.

Speaker 2 (02:37:02):
I wasn't proud of it. When you told that story,
I was like, yeah, that was that guy. I was
like the amount of shit he probably overcame to be
in that spot to play.

Speaker 9 (02:37:13):
Like, yeah, I was like that'unds a whole other three hour.

Speaker 2 (02:37:17):
Part episode two. But anyway, I just want to make
sure we're on the record here with in front of
all the boys, Like that's on me, that's big, that's
on me. You go make have done this forever. Yeah,
appreciate you, guys.

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