How "Ultimate Human" Founder Gary Brecka Transformed Jelly Roll & Dana White + MAHA Role | Bussin' - Bussin' With The Boys

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
All right, we're good.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
You like that, busting with the boys, hanging with the best.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Betting on the game.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
No woman's gonna tell us what you can not be
over here, just drinking beer and making n baby. I'm
hanging with the Fellers. He's busting with the boys.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Bro Welcome in, Ladies and gentlemen to episode three two,
three forty seven. God, I always forget men. I can't believe
for three hundred and forty seven episodes in with the
one the only gay Breckond maybe the best biohacker in
the entire world. He hates that reference. We are presented
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Speaker 3 (01:50):
Boys.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
This is an incredible episode Gary. For those of you
who don't know, maybe tuning in for Gary Breca. This
is one of those episodes where when Will and I met,
our friendship was a lot around the biohacking world. At
this point, Gary Breca wasn't a huge name seven eight
years ago, but like being able to sit down with
a brilliant mind like this talk through all sorts of

(02:12):
different things of how to take care of your body
were of the best things you can do. This is
something that is like really cool for myself. I don't
want to speak for you, but very very fun podcast
for the both of us.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Yeah. Right when we got done with this episode with
Gary Breca, he looked at me straight in the face
and said, your t levels will rise fifty if you
shave your head, and that's why I did it for
this episode.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, that's why you did it.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Yeah, that's why I did it.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
That's why you did it for this episode.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
If you are tuning in for the first time and
you're wondering why Will looks like an extra for American
History X, it is because Nebraska lost to Michigan in Lincoln, Nebraska,
which is the bust And Bowl, which is our episode. Also,
who won the national championship Will in nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
The Michigan Wolverine.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
And who is getting fifty thousand dollars donated from Bust
with the Boys to their NIL fund?

Speaker 5 (02:57):
The Michigan Wolverine.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Right, and with all those things, one plus one Eagles
will having a bald head. Listen, Titans watch party is
taking place October fifth.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Where is that at.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
October the Brooklyn Bowl? October fifth, The Boys will be there.
We'll be watching Titans football. Listen, batter Difference, We support them.
Arizona Cardinals, Kyler Murray coming in there. Her secondary is
really hurt. Couple of acls, maybe a little groin. James
Connor yesterday goes down. That's a brutal if This is Tuesday,
so two days ago goes down.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
That is hard to see.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
But if you're a Titans fan, hope optimism, Brooklyn Bowl
Busting with the boys October fifth, that's exciting. Also, if
you're here tuning in because Michigan won the Bust and Bowl,
Y're welcome. Michigan champtees have dropped. They've been out since
Monday at ten am. You can see those. BWTV dot com.
Get your Michigan Wolverine Busting Bull Champion t shirts.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
It's amazing. And also the seven days still sp October.
I mean, it could life get any better?

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Will first day of fall.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
On Tuesday, Monday as a recording first, and by the way,
we had our football recap show. If you were wondering
what we said about Bust and Bowl, College Football World,
NFL World. That show was released yesterday on Monday. You
can check that out with Greg Olsen, we tap in,
we check in with him on his his middle school
football team. And yeah, your boys got a new look

(04:26):
going on right now. Lost the bet, lost the bus
and Bowl. The vibes are as high as they can
possibly be without a Nebraska win over the weekend.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
I love that you gotta love that, gotta feel good
about that.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
Yeah, yeah, I mean a fall coming up. We gotta
lick our wounds for a bye week so we don't
get to take the field. We don't get to get
the bad taste out of our mouths.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Right, Which is that good?

Speaker 5 (04:50):
I know? I know again you look back twenty twelve,
Nebraska Cornhuskers first four weeks two and two. We just
got mopped. We got embarrassed by a house eight. We
had a bye week to sulk in it. Opalina comes in.
You guys want to shot at all for the Big ten.
You gotta win out. You gotta win out.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
What do you guys do?

Speaker 5 (05:08):
We won out? Hell?

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah you did.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
It's a row eight in a row. We sprinkled off
seven seven second half comebacks. That's gotten spit.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
It's got a juicy up a little bit. I would
didn't have to bring that up.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, just live.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
You're right. It is good to self scouting, just as
a fan, even as a player. You're like wanting to
get back out on the field as fast as possible.
You can't do it. You gotta have some more practices, right,
You gotta have some tough looks in the mirror.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
Who do you want to be coming out of this?

Speaker 3 (05:37):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
This is a very long episode with Gary Breka, but
we always do tear talk during the week.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
We leave half of it four.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Monday's Uh weekend recap, and then half of it for
the Tuesday episode, So we will get right into that.
Let's talk about Joel Daddy at Jay Underscore, hesh Heitch
fifteen whatever. Where does stuffed crust rank on the greatest
food Inventions of our time? It has to be up
there hashtag cheer chok. Do you remember being a child,

(06:07):
I don't know if it was Dominoes or Pizza Hut
when they came out with that commercial and they talked
about cheese, cheese, we want more cheese, and they lifted that.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Motherfucking pizza up and you see the cheese.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Coming from the crust. I mean, I'm about six, but
I think that's when puberty started from me because of
that commercial.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Will Yeah, I don't know where it would rank on
the all time Let's see. Let's just go ahead and
say top five because emotionally, I'm a massive dipper MANI sauce.
I'm talking scooping, big dip boy, big dip boy. Yeah,
big dip willy See is whether he used to call
me growing up, big dip willy See.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Watch out for the cheese crust around Willie See. Yeah,
that's big dip willy See out there. You gotta watch
out for him.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Double dipping willy See.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
Don't care about jerseys. I love it now. They called me, uh,
double dip dome right now, double dip dome. Look at
that fresh clean head. He's watcher whissy loved love stuffed crust.
Absolutely love it. Anything in front of me that I
can diet my mouth. My mouth is honestly.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
Water starving too, So this is actually a tough one.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
But it is up there. Thank you for that tear talk.
We love any moment that you can shout out stuffed
crust or any nostalgia. Again, this tear talks for anything
you got shout out, no free shoutouts. You got anything
you want to get off your chest, Just put hashtag
tear talk and we will cover it on the intro.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Shout out out stuff crust pizza.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Shout out no free shutouts, stuff crust pizza.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Yes, absolutely, here we go.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
I love this one because he you know, he's he
was in my h he was in my DMS with
some apologies, and we might be able to mend the
bridge here with the hater. This one's comes to us
from Joey Fat Joey Joe thirty five. I was wondering
if we can open the negotiation window at will Compton
Taylor one. What is one school the two of you

(07:55):
would like to go to on your campus tour that
you have not been on yet. Hashed at Bustle with
the boys hashtag tier talk, what is one? I wasn't
expecting the renefle thing. I thought it was gonna be
like a negotiation window, all those stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Let's go each conference, all start in the Big Ten
because that's where the boys went to school.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
State.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yeah, Penn State would probably be a great place to
go check out. I would love to check out Penn State.
That's okay, and I enjoyed myself.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
We were looking forward to Yeah, you no matter what
if we thought it was weird or not, like, it
was still like you're you're curious what the vibe is like.
I would enjoy going to penns State.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
It's all about immersing yourself in that culture. Also, USC,
I think would be awesome to go to in the
Big Ten because I remember being a young buck in
Arizona going up to a couple of those things and
seeing it when Pete Carroll was there, and I just
remember thinking, like, this school is so sick and the
fact that's in the middle of Compton is just so crazy.
Be very interesting to check that out. One't mind going
up to the northeast as well. Like, I know there's
a spicy team this year in Maryland, very exciting to see. Yeah,

(09:00):
that would be good, but yeah, all the school's out
there about the Big Ten.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Northwestern would Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
No, Iowa City, actually I heard.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
I heard a lot of good things about Iowa City.
I was.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
I always strikes me as a place too.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
It's like similar to ann Arbur, Michigan, where it's like
there's staple food places you can go to. That's like,
if you're in Iowa City, you gotta go here.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
Casey's gas Station, Baby that's Italian grew up on some
cases is good In the end, there's just something about
going to Iowa and just getting some ring worm in
the wrestling.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, you just go, you know what.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
I know, this is about where we'd want to go.
One place I would never want to go to is
in Slantsing, East Lansing, Michigan.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
Yeah, I could see. I can see the.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Slum. It's it's a yeah, it's just like, what do
you guys have to offer? Nothing like what we play there?
Actually the environment, I mean it was. I played at Michigan,
so obviously it was as they have a fun stadium.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
It is loud. They do get rocking and.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
East Lansing they I will give them credit there, but yeah,
fuck them.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
Would love to go tour even though they're down bad. Right.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
I was thinking Florida State would be awesome to go
check out, Say Florida State for that, Yeah you guys, yeah, okay,
then I'll all dip down on Clemson. I think that'd
be cool. I think it's nuts that you make your
players run down that hill. I think that is fucking crazy.
You're asking for a soft tish. Miami may be nasty too.
I would love to see Miami, but yeah, good spot SEC.

(10:44):
This might be a dark horse ar Kansas Razorbacks.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
I think that would be.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
On bro.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, I'm saying there's nothing out there but Arkansas.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Right, And that's kind of what you want, Like, that's
what bust with the boys in the Springs to is
kind of all about is like, let us highlight you
and what you guys have to offer, because when the
when the common man thinks about Arkansas, you think about
hunting and tornadoes, like you know, you're not really thinking
about like what is Arkansas?

Speaker 5 (11:13):
Was it?

Speaker 4 (11:13):
Fayettesville, Fayeville have to like offer, and so I think
it's just like a sneaky loss spot. We've been to LSU,
We've been to Alabama. The experience miss Yeah, it's very holy.
Tody chandeliers at the tailgate, tark I love, But I
kind of message that we've been to Georgia.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
What about Missouri? Columbia? Missoo, missoo?

Speaker 5 (11:33):
Would be fun.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
I've been in the movies, That's what I was thinking.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
But that would be fun to bring the boys and
like do a bust on the boys experienced. Yeah, gotta
bring Mike Chandler.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
I think Gainesville, Florida, Florida Gators would be awesome as well.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
Yes, I mean, honestly, a lot of those SEC schools would.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
To be honest, I feel like we're gonna go through
every conference and say all the schools like we already have.
But Yeah, we ain't going to Purdue, buddy, No, I
will say Sperdue. They have a great aviation school. When
you go to a game against the boiler Makers, you
fly in a little the stadium's right there. That's nice.

(12:13):
That is nice.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Other than that, go.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Back to Big ten. What about Washington?

Speaker 5 (12:18):
Washington would be good. Yeah, Washington would be fun because
they they tail gate on the water. The tail gate
on the water, and their place gets a loud As
ship all aluminum, all aluminum, smart.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Very smart. You know a school that needs us, probably
help them out a little bit. U C l A.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
We ain't going to UCLA. We go to l A.
I mean even USC like it'd be cool to go
to for the rich tradition and everything else. Yeah, with
like the early two thousands, But we ain't going to
l A and check out some ball. You want to go. Yeah,
you're going.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
To Madison, Wisconsin. Yeah, I just be talking about because
because they go so hard there.

Speaker 6 (13:05):
Yeah, they have like a I think it's like a
weekend or a week every year. This isn't football related,
but like the lake freeze is over and they literally
just party like it's like frat row and they just
party on the Lake all weekend.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Yeah, yeah, I've heard, like, what's the game. It's like,
you want to go experience a night game at Oregon State?
Is that a thing?

Speaker 4 (13:24):
I don't think you want to experience anything at Oregon
State right now.

Speaker 7 (13:27):
In Oregon State they got some they got some Dallas
Stadium renovation.

Speaker 8 (13:32):
I think Washington's as far as like the northwest Washington.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
Yeah, Oregon Washington. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
I would love busting with the boys to get to
a place where we can go to like some MAX schools.
Check out some smaller Miami of Ohio, Miami Ohio ball State,
go check them out a little bit. Go Mountain West Conference.
You go and check out Boise State UNLV. Well, yeah,
I'll go to UNLV. I'll be in UNLV the first

(13:58):
week in October. Pop by there all the time.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
State would be cool, would be sick.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
It'd be fun to go check their schools and.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
Training the weekend to go to ball State.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
I'm telling you, right, Yeah, you're right, you are right.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
What about right?

Speaker 1 (14:09):
What about going out to like Hawaii or something?

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Yeah, this is to travel, like that's the first thing.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I think.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
They just don't take their ball serious. No, they don't.
You don't go where people take their ball serious.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
I heard a rumor about Hawaii is you can't go
on an official visit there unless you're committed. That's what
I heard.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Well, it's probably so expensive there.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Anybody who offers them, they're probably like, yeah, I want
to go to Hawaii.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
Yeah, good one right now. I love Texas Texas Tech.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Yeah yeah, Texas Tech would be sick to go check
out utahould be cool too.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I don't know. I would just love to.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Go to a game at their stadium that I wa
was state. I would state would be fun.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
I would it would be great, it would be awesome.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Great question, Joey Fats, And thank you for showing up
to the show too. I know you have. You've always
been a supporter of our Sometimes you've gotten a little.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Nasty, a little nasty, and I hate.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
When you come at the boys, not not not the
boys like us, but when I see you coming out
even our boys in the back of the bus at
certain times where you think it's you might in your
head think you're trolling, but it hasn't come off with strolling.
That That's what chat's my ass.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Now. Joey Fats is at the Live show and Lincoln,
Nebraska at the Rocco Theater, which, by the way, was
an incredible showing by everybody. Thank you everybody for coming.
Joey fatt is right there left of stage, front row
front and his ask I called out. Will pointed him
and goes, I know who you are. So we bought
his ass up for a second to give. He seemed
like he realized he fucked up a little bit. He turned.

(15:43):
I think he started hoping. Joey Fatts turning. I think
he's in the midute. He got the blinker on the blink.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
For us observing, it seems like he's got the blinker.
I think he's turning a corner for sure.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
His actions in the next couple of weeks that'll show
a lot. Next one coach comes from.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
Like, by the way, hey, that that Life show was incredible.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah it was.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
I'm just saying the live show was incredible with the
with the birthday cake and then the surprise with Connor
Stallion's coming.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Up, the video, the video together for you, the last
part of the video when it's Charro and your kids.
I don't know why I'm sitting over they're getting choked up.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah, I'm sitting there like, fuck not even my kids.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
They looked ten minutes away from me.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
Because you know the players too, It's like, hey, you
mind doing a birthday to the other Like fucking what
the hell? Right?

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah that's what well. I don't want to point it
out during the live show, but seeing Rayola's execution on that,
because I saw his video before, I was like, they're losing.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
This is your hero and you're man, I'm gonna get
it done this.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
They were focused, they were focused, happy, happy birthday, Well
get out there.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
I was like, oh, fuck day, Like, come on taking boys, No, no, I.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
You know, if you watch your reaction show, if you
watch your reaction show, you watch me jumping in on
Matt Rules podcast, like I I I know people are
mad at me for playing heel this weekend, which is
the old the only choice I really had. I'm a
huge fan of Nebraska. I'm a huge fan of the people.
I'm a huge fan of the culture that Matt Rule
is establishing there. Like, yeah, I don't think you're gonna

(17:07):
beat my team, sue me, Like, I think my team's
better than yours.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Assume me.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
You know, I think we should have pulled away that game.
Multiple times sue me, But like I love Lincoln, Nebraska
and I love these seventeen.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Year old kids.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Can I tell you a story?

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Go ahead?

Speaker 4 (17:24):
During the thing, there was a there was a guy
like I was walking by four gentlemen that are also
in the sidelines in the end zone side by the
student section, and one guy goes, uh, hey, you're gonna
have a long day to day. But he says it
with a zero conviction. So said him, Hey, what's your
name is that?

Speaker 5 (17:39):
My name is John.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Hey, John, good to meet you. Hey, here's what I'm
gonna do for you. I'm gonna actually take ten steps back.
I'm gonna redo it. But when you say it, say
it like you fucking mean it. And he's like, you
don't gotta do that, Let's do it real quick.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
So I went and did it.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
He's like, you guys have a long fucking day to day.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
That's my boy.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
So we're getting better talking shit in Nebraska. We're getting better. Yeah,
And I do I do love I do love Nebraska.
At M fifteen Casper. This is Michael Casper, he says
at tail of the one hashtag tear talk favorite bust
and bull victories. The next one that's my favorite one.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
But if you're going to go off these last.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Four in a row, it's three.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Sorry, Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
We've won five in a row, so you're right, only
three busting.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
I would say this one because this is the closest true.
This is the closest these.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Two teams have been from a competitive standpoint. And I
said it in the intro. It's like every time the
old Nebraska would falter and Michigan would pull away, Nebraska
figured out a way to stay in the game the
whole time. And I think that's that's impressive. I know
it didn't go the way Nebraska wanted, but at the
end of the day, like you could tell, the culture
is in the right spot. So this one, because that

(18:54):
is the most competitive Nebraska fotball team I've seen.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
Dustin Kroom Tier talk. You guys, keep killing it. Take
away the sports. What you do for myself and a
lot of men, just give us the escape from reality.
You boys are special. Keep crushing it. Go game cocks. Dustin,
thank you for your kind words, Bro, I appreciate it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
There was a we did a meet and greet after
our life show and that one guy came.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Up to us.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Was it his dad passing away, yeah, or someone He
just said, like, regardless of all the things that have
happened in my life, listening to you guys helped me.
And anytime that type of conversation, you got to catch
us just right right, like it's.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
A long day.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
He sits there and tells the story, and there was
two long hugs from both of us, and I just
think to myself, like, it's crazy to think that this
show does that for people. Yeah, and because it's at
the end of the day, like this was built to
have fun, and sometimes you realize like people just need
to laugh, just gotta laugh and have at the time.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
So we had we had one gentleman who had lost
his seven month.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Old that I kind of cried right there.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
Sure M had a couple pt six moments where it
was just like you're just like reading a comment. A
dude had me U. We were at the fence talking.
Him and his wife were massive fans and watch for
the Dads every week and stuff like that, and he's
just talking to me about dad left eye. Buddy, you
got to you gotta stop. I got the eye starting
to gloss over right now. And then that one cat
who was at the meet and greet talking about his
seven month old is like a obviously it's like a

(20:16):
tear jerker, but thank you, thank you for your comment, Dustin,
you are the man. Bro.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Brian Alpha row at b Underscore Alpha fourteen says favorite
Will Compton crash out hashtag tear talk favorite Will Compton
crash out.

Speaker 6 (20:36):
I have one like that came to mind, but I
don't know if it was like it was when you
two fought on the bush.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
That was crazy. That was crazy.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Fought on the bus when we fight, I was like,
all will too.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
That was like two.

Speaker 6 (20:48):
That was when Taylor was pointing in your face like
you didn't get ten, and you were like, get your
finger out of my face.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
And then Taylor just poked the bear some more.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
And then and I'm I'm also eight weeks removed from
an ACL surgery.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
This was like two years ago.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
Was that the hand fighting?

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, that's when you stood up.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
And bought it an injured individual. Literally, I still had
a handicap sticker in my car.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Taylor, you also did go for the throat.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, I had to protect myself. What was this fight
over awesomble shit?

Speaker 4 (21:20):
I can't even remember do you remember.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Ten years in the league.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Oh, yeah, that is exactly what it was.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Literally in our intro for the show, I.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Said something about Will playing eight and he got on
my ass about it, and I just kind of kept going.
I had to find out. I had to find out that. Yeah,
what's a good Will Compton crash out?

Speaker 5 (21:45):
Though they usually got to be over Nebraska.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to think of.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
I think the picture of you laying in the road
was all time.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Yeah, I think it was a fun When Nebraska lost
the UCLA last year, that was a good crush out
moment for Will.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
I don't know, Grant short I got one air hashtag
tier talk. When do people start to rank Jalen Hurts
in the top five at the quarterback position?

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Never?

Speaker 5 (22:17):
Yeah, I think it's tough, man. You can't like argue
with this resume. He's a super Bowl champion? Was he
the MVP at the Super Bowl last year?

Speaker 3 (22:25):
I think.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
He's just he's on an incredible team.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
I think it's hard. It's like, yeah, when he starts
like peppering, throwing the like just winning through the air
at all times and he gets into those actual MVP conversations.
I think he's when he's like a top five quarterback.
But right now it's like, you know, I'm not saying
he's not good. I'm not saying he's not top five.
I think just being in the overall universal top five
category for all of national media and for all the people,

(22:54):
like he's got to be out here slinging the rock,
which he doesn't have to because he has Saquon Barkley.
Not saying he can't do, just saying he just does,
like it just doesn't.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Happen on the right.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
Yeah, Jalen Hurst is in a very unique situation where
all these like top five quote quarterbacks, the Josh Allens,
the Joe Burrows, the Patrick Mahomes, the Lamar Jackson's Josh
al Yeah, yeah, that was the first person I said.
When you look at them, it's like they do it
because the team needs them to do it. Jalen Hurst
is a part of a team that they don't necessarily
mean they went to or no with that, I'm throwing

(23:23):
a touchdown first time in fifteen years. Everybody was able
to do that. Like, he doesn't need to be Superman
just yet to be successful. And so does it hinder
the conversation we're talking about the top five quarterback? Maybe probably,
but and you got aliens like you work with what
you're given. And so the Eagles are nasty.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
Right Like you play the hypotheticals all day long. You
just don't like it. You just don't know. It's like
if he was in the Baker situation, is he going
and doing what Baker's doing? And with the Buccaneers, with
that squad. I'm not saying they're a bad squad, but
it's like, is he you know, that's where Baker starts
to come into these conversations because he's just winning games,
game winning drives, slinging the rock all around the yard.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Baker's putting the team on his back. I don't think
Jalen has ever really all right, I'm gonna take this
game over.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
Yeah yeah, those were the Those are the three I had.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
No kim My Rates is outside and somebody go grab.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
This year.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Talk comes from at jesse Z. Who's stopping Michigan from
being ten and one when the Buckeyes go to ann Arbor.
I mean, schedule, you can't ever have any guarantees or anything.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
Who are who are?

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Who are?

Speaker 5 (24:49):
Like the big games for you guys.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
We got Wisconsin, then we got USC, and then I
believe we have someone else. We got Maryland on the schedule,
Michigan State. To be honest, like, if Michigan is going
to do mission's in a good position to be ten
and one going to Ohio State and then we all
know how the last four years have worked.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
So so really, you guys are on the road at USC.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
On the road at USC is the biggest test.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
You don't have Penn State, Nope. You don't have Oregon, Nope, nope.
Do you have Washington?

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yes, we do at home.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
Washington is not bad.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Washing's not bad bad. I love the fact that it's
at home.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
And the last one I have is from Sad Underscore
of Vol.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
You talking Sad.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Underscore Vol At Joe eight six six nine eight nine
eight three hashtag tear Top Top three Hottest bald Dudes.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
Top three Hottest bald Dudes.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Will Well Well We'll looks hot. I was stinking j
j Josh Josh Josh pets a handsome boy with the
bald head.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
Vinnie d Vinde's The Rock, The Rock, The Rock is one, Yeah,
the Rock.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Well Will's won the Rocks too.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
Were about like, can we depict like people that have
been bald, Like what about Professor X and the professor X?

Speaker 5 (26:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah, John Travolta, Yeah he's bald now.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
If you took grease John Travolta and made him bald,
then he's number one.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
Number one, so good looking handsome boy. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Three, we gave you six boys. I hope you feel
good about it. I feel good about it as well.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
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Speaker 4 (26:52):
Let's have some positivity at that one too. Let's let's
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Speaker 5 (27:01):
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Speaker 4 (27:06):
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Speaker 5 (30:45):
Gary.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Can I tell you a little history of Will and I?
So in twenty eighteen, Will came from the Washington Commanders
to the Tennessee Titans. Right then and there we met
in the breakfast chow hall, became best friends. The foundational
pieces of our friendship was a thing we like to
call accountabilit Buddy. There's guys like Ben Greenfield Andrew Huberman.

(31:09):
Ye was a big one. Obviously we're big into Rogan
all these other podcasts. But we took a lot of
these bio hacking thoughts and you know things that people do.
We would do sauna protocols, cold top protocols, and we
keep each other accountable during that process. So a lot
of our friendship and the foundation is a lot of
what you ask, great Man, which is incredible to have

(31:30):
you on.

Speaker 8 (31:30):
And I know a lot of athletes like take that
into their own hands because you know, I've worked with
a lot of professional athletes. Kind of astounding to me
how little some of these billion dollar franchises do for
players off the field when it when you when it
comes to recovery and nutrition and sleep and supplementation, it's
kind of left to the guys that that at the
highest end of the game, that just want the best

(31:51):
of the best for themselves. They just take it into
their own hands. Like you know, Tom Brady travel with
his own trainer, you know, travel with his own food
because it just wasn't available to them. Now, I don't
know if that's changing, I think that it should change.
I sit on the board of the NFL Alumni Association Athletica,
and I see a lot of these guys after the game,
the repetitive use injuries and you know, the wear and

(32:11):
tear that they've had. I'm sure that both of you
guys have plenty of nips and bibbles going on in
your body somewhere. But at the highest highest end, they
just take the responsibility and into their own hands.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Yeah, I mean, obviously, the NFL is a business and
they're trying to figure out the best ways to make
the most money without putting them as much as they
can into all the players. They want them to be successful.
But when it comes to recovery, taking care of your body,
with standing twenty weeks of what people call a car
accident every Sunday, that's really put on the players and
what you're able to do. And it's like diet is

(32:41):
one thing, nutrition, cold tubs, saunas, then there's red light.
One thing that I've realized is like there's always another layer.
So like, for you, if you're speaking to the athletes
right now, how far do we have to go here? Like,
cause there's always once you figure out, Okay, I'm healthy.
I'm now eating putting this in my food, So a

(33:02):
little more nutrients here. Okay, Now I realized I can
go and do an AD And then there's ozone. Then
there's hyperbaric chambers.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
Hey, I'm a big coffee guy. There's a certain bean.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
There's always another one percent, right that you're trying to chase.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Yeah, and there is if I'm like in my first
year in the NFL, or I'm a freshman, or I'm
whatever I am and I am in the pursuit of
being an elite athlete. What are some non negotiables that
you'd say, if you don't do anything at all, do this?

Speaker 8 (33:27):
So three three absolute non negotiables. First of all, sleep
is our human superpower.

Speaker 5 (33:31):
I knew you're going to.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
That is the That is the it's also the hardest phase.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
I sleep.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
Water, Yeah, risk waking.

Speaker 8 (33:40):
I'd love to say, you know, it's the red leg that,
it's the supplements that I manufacture, it's a specific test,
it's any D it's you know, risk veritral coq ten.
It's not you know, if you if you look at
the big data, right, I mean, if you look at
blue zones, for example, what is extending life the longest?

Speaker 5 (33:55):
You know?

Speaker 8 (33:55):
It's not keto paleo, pescatarian, vegan, vegetarian, it's not dogmatic die.
It's eating whole foods. It's the absence of process foods.
If you look at the non negotiables in those areas
of the world too, you see that it's sense of community,
sense of purpose, like what you guys were doing with
each other, supporting each other, building a real community inside
of your community. That is incredibly important to your success.

(34:20):
It's actually incredibly important to the way that your brain
is wired. It actually gives you the why. And then
I would say start with your sleep. And sleep is
the most bullied thing in our schedule, right. I mean
a lot of guys when they get to an elite
level of competition, there is some genetic component, they have
some natural talent, right, And I mean obviously they didn't
get there without working hard. But the first thing to

(34:41):
go is sleep. And if you think about everybody knows
sleep is important, but nobody tells you why, right. And
there's two areas of sleep. There's rem sleep and there's
deep sleep that are critically important. So during rem sleep
This is when you're assembling your memory all the things
that you learned during the day. Maybe you learned it
practice routes that you were running. You know, new plays

(35:01):
that you're getting ready to run. Anything that is newly
learned during the day gets assembled during rem sleep. So
your hipocampus, your memory, and your prefrontal cortex get together
and they get to talk for the first time without interruption. Right, Normally,
what's happening is you have all this noise coming in
all day long. I mean, you're a practice, you're catching balls,
you know, you're being dictated to, you're moving around, you're traveling,

(35:22):
you're packing your bag. So there's all this noise coming
into the brain. Rem sleep at night you assemble these memories.
Once you assemble memories, you actually start to get to
what's called fine motor skills. And the difference between a
good athlete and a great athlete is the last five yards.
It's hand eye coordination, speed timing, and agility. You already

(35:44):
have the strength, right, you already have the know how,
But that last little edge, hand eye coordination, speed timing,
and agility. That's the difference between a good athlete and
a great athlete. And The second part of sleep is
your deep sleep and what happens during deep sleep. If
you've heard of the lymphatic system, you know you've got
lymph nodes. You get your lymph nodes swell when you

(36:05):
get a sore throat. Well, you have a lymphatic system
in the brain called the glymphatic system. The only time
that that system is active, really active, is during deep sleep.
So what's happening during deep sleep is that glymphatic system
is draining all the waste from the brain. And by waste,
I mean cellular waste. So you want to be sharp,
you want to be acute, You want to be on
your game. You want to have good hand eye coordination, speed, timing, agility,

(36:30):
You practice sleep, you actually you schedule like right now.
One of the great things about being semi successful in
this industry is we made a decision two and a
half years ago that we would schedule all of our
meetings and travel around sleep and exercise full stop. So
I don't schedule travel and meetings ahead of my sleep.

(36:53):
I schedule sleep, exercise, and then meetings in travel. So
if somebody that wants to hire me to speak at
eight thirty in the morning, I won't take I won't
take the gig. I mean, I'm like, I'll speak at
ten thirty, I'll speak at eleven, because that first hour
of the day belongs only to me. I give the
rest of my day away, but I'm selfish about that
first hour of the day. So number one it would
be it would be sleep number two. And this is

(37:15):
the most overlooked thing I think in all of modern
medicine and all of modern sports, is we don't cater
to the seventy percent of our circulation that is not
done by the heart. If you ask thousand people how
much blood is circulated by the heart, they'd say one
hundred percent. Our heart circulates all the blood in our body.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
It doesn't. It only circulates thirty percent of the blood
in your body.

Speaker 8 (37:37):
Seventy percent of your circulation is microvascular, right, It's as
small or smaller than a human hair. So seventy percent
of the blood moving around your body, including your brain
and all your fine motor skills and your muscles, it's
not done by the heart. It's done by an activity
called vaso motor. So how do I cater to vasomotor?
How do I actually get that edge? How do I
get into that seventy percent of my circulation that nobody

(37:59):
else is paying it attention to. You do things like hydrate,
hydrate with hydrogen gas, hydrogen water. You can use elemental
magnesium tablets. I mean, if you talk to Tom Brady, he
had a hydrogen water bottle with him twenty four to
seven everywhere that he went, still does to this day.
He's always carrying that thing around. It's like his blanking
because that caters to the vase of motor that switches

(38:21):
the lights on, and it's dirt cheap. You can travel
with it. You can get an elemental magnesium tablet, you
can drop it into water, you can get a hydrogen
water bottle, you can consume that type of water. Because
all these big brands you know that are the best
known brands, they're not the best brands for you. They're
not in service to your cellular biology. So you're right
about hydration, but you can be super smart about hydration.

(38:42):
Put hydrogen gas into the body. And then you've got
to cover the basics of essential amino acids, which is
very hard to get from from your diet. I mean,
most people think amino acids are proteins.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
They're not.

Speaker 8 (38:54):
They're the building blocks of proteins. When you have the
right amount of amino acids in your body, you're not
just building muscles, you're building everything else, connective tissue.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
You see.

Speaker 8 (39:04):
If I was to say, what's the biggest problem in
the NFL that is preventable, it's non contact injuries.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Right.

Speaker 8 (39:10):
You can't have a you can't have a star running
back blowing an achilles. He all coming in off the
sideline to get in the game to start, you know,
traumatic injuries. There's not a lot you can do about those, right,
I mean, if your foot's planted and you get a
hard enough lateral check, there goes your a cl Right,
but you shouldn't be blasting down the field and cut left,
you know, in a route, and and cut a ninety
degree turn and blow an aquila, you know, blow in

(39:32):
acl You shouldn't blow an achilles. He'll coming in off
the off the sideline. That tells me that we're not
catering to that to that last five yards.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
And and then.

Speaker 8 (39:42):
The final thing I would say is, and this is
hard when you're on the road, But if I was
only to have one modality, it would probably be red
light because The science on red light is is absolute,
just like the science on saunas. I think that you know,
when you're eliminating waste, when you're circulating all of that

(40:04):
stuff and put using your your skin as a secondary
route of waste elimination. When you're clean, you're performing. So
I would say son or red light, hydrogen gas and
focusing on sleep.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
When say you're talking to an athlete and they say
they get between like eight nine hours of sleep at night,
and but they haven't they haven't seen how effective they
are at sleeping. What would you recommend to those athletes
go and do. Is it a sleep study? Is it something?
Is it a wearable that they can use, but something
that tells them that they're effectively or sleeping correctly.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yeah, it's a wearable. You need to get data.

Speaker 8 (40:37):
What you don't measure, you can't change, right. And so
if it's an oor ring, if it's a whoop, if
it's a you know, if it's a fit bit, something
to give you data on what really causes you to
achieve deep sleep. Because you'll see that every time I
drink alcohol one hundred percent of the time, it's going
to interrupt my sleep.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
If I two to sometimes three days.

Speaker 8 (40:57):
Yeah, yeah, that's crazy, and not for the reasons that
you think. It's actually not the alcohol, it's what the
alcohol becomes. You see, alcohol is metabolized into something called
a seedyl aldehyde. So the liver takes alcohol turns it
into something called a seedyl aldehyde. What this does is
it drops the pH of the blood. So the phtrains
of the blood is very narrow. Your performance range is
between like seven point two seven point eight. If you're

(41:20):
in that range and you're slightly alkaline, that is your
performance zone. Soon as you become a cidic. I mean,
the whole pain from a hangover is from the It's
not only the dehydration, it's from the acetyl aldehyde. It's
from the drop in pH of your blood. That's why
you can stop a hangover. And it's tracks if you
drink hydrogen water, if you if you actually put on
a nasal canuless and just breathe the little oxygen, you'd

(41:41):
raise the pH.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Of the blood.

Speaker 8 (41:43):
A nasal canulus like a little you ever seen the
like an oxygen concentrator, Yeah, like a little oxygen tank
and it runs into your nose, you put it over
your ears and you just ransom oxygen.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
You're just saying you get rid of a hangover by
putting that and drinking hydrogen water.

Speaker 8 (41:56):
If you took if you took a ten ounce glass
of water, you put an elemental magnesium tablet, a hydrogen
water tablet in there, it's about twelve parts per million hydrogen.
You added to that a mineral salt, like a Celtic salt,
Paja gold salt, or a really good mineral salt, even
a remint tea salt. If you put sea salt hydrogen
water a ten ounce glass of water, drank that back
and ran fifteen minutes of oxygen. I don't care how

(42:19):
bad your hangover is, it would be over inside of
twenty minutes.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Interesting, Piechry. I feel like somebodyygen tank. Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
Well I have two kids, and as my kids started
to get older and they wanted to consistently play, I
would notice if I had like one, two, even like
three drinks the next day, I feel like a bag
of dicks. I just feel terrible, and I'm like, no,
I'm sitting on the couch. I'm more like distracted by
my phonem allowing the distractions to take over because I'm
trying to get away from the pain that I'm essentially feeling, yeah,
and not being like, you know, the fun dead, which

(42:53):
is kind of what everybody wants to be. So I
was like, all right, I'm gonna kind of step away
from drinking a little bit where I don't do it
so much anymore.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
And it's made it way easier. But if you're saying
we got hacks out there.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
Now, we're starting to reevaluate rechange, right, Yeah, we're trying
to move it down. The move it down a little bit.

Speaker 8 (43:09):
Yeah, And if you think about it, you know, most
people think that the pain's coming from the brain. You know,
you get a headache and you think your brain hurts.
You know, you feel like the pain's behind your eyes,
you feel like it's in your temples. You got to
remember the brain actually has no pain receptors. The brain
is actually not capable of generating a pain signal. So
your hangover is actually not coming from your brain. It's
coming from the covering of the brain. There's there's something

(43:31):
called the dura, which is like a serran wrap which
is stretched over the top of the brain. And the
dura hates two things. It hates being stretched and it
hates being contracted. So what causes it to stretch or
contract is sodium ingredient and water. So the first thing
that happens when you get a hangover is you're dehydrated,
but your your sodium and electrolyte drop and so the

(43:53):
dura shrinks, and now you've got a brutal headache. It's like,
you know, all all over and that pain's not coming
from your brain. So as soon as you restore that
great in, the pain's gone. You wouldn't believe how many.
In fact, there's a clinical study. It was in the
Wily Journal of Headaches, if you guys want to look
it up, if you're a science nerd like i am,
and they took about eighty six hundred participants that suffered

(44:13):
from chronic migraines. And these were migraines that weren't responding
to traditional narcotics, weren't responding to injections of botox. You know,
they actually will inject botox sometimes to try to stop migraines.
And they put them on a mineral salt. I'm talking
about five dollars bag, ten dollars bag of mineral salt
that had all ninety one trace minerals, something like Celtic

(44:35):
or Baja gold sea salt. They added that to water.
In the majority of those cases, migraines went permanently into remission.
So you can do the same thing with hangovers, right,
I mean, it's like it's what's astounding is if you
want to see magic happen in human beings, you just
give their body the raw material it needs to do
its job. Everybody wants a really really cool, unique special hack.

(44:56):
And I think there's some incredible science on longvity now.
But by the time that you're flirting with stem cells
and exosomes and natural killer cells and really advanced modalities,
you got to cover the basics, you know, right, And
so it just takes everything back to sleep, getting processed
foods out of your diet that will slow you down,

(45:18):
making sure that you're hydrated, you meet the minimum amino
acid requirement, you get all ninety one trace minerals in
a mineral salt, and I'll tell you, man, you'd see
you would see game changing performance in the upper echelon
of athletes just by closing that last five.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
Years you bring up all the extra croulers, the exosomes,
the stem cells, the ivs, all those things. Is it
fair to say ors are too dramatic to be like,
if you're not taking care of what you just talk about,
the whole foods and taking care of the raw minerals,
then that's just the waste of money.

Speaker 5 (45:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (45:47):
I mean you hear people say all the time, you
can't diet your way around parsley, right, you can't exercise
your way around a poor diet.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Right.

Speaker 8 (45:54):
So if you line those things up, your training is ostensively.
If you're an elite athlete, your training's already on point, right,
you're training not to hurt yourself. You're probably doing position
training for whatever sport you're playing. So in strength and
conditioning now I think has has hit his ceiling, meaning
we know about as much about muscle hypertrophy and muscle

(46:14):
hyperplasia and recovery as well.

Speaker 5 (46:16):
The trainers are pretty much in place everywhere you look
for those things. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (46:21):
No, No, no professional sports team or very unlikely that
a professional sports team has really really shitty strength and
conditioning coaches. Right, these guys know what they're doing. They've
forgotten more about strength and conditioning than I'll ever know, right,
So that's that's not the area where you get the edge.
The area where you get the edge is being in
service to your cellular biology, making sure you are hydrated,

(46:42):
you're getting the basics like deep sleep. Stop putting processed foods.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
In your diet.

Speaker 8 (46:46):
You know the biggest, the most prevailing theory in aging. Now,
if you were to take the top fifty scientists mds, PhDs,
researchers in the world, put them all in a room
and get them to agree on one thing, they would
all agree that aging is something called immuno fatigue. We
are slowly and progressively overwhelming our immune system to the

(47:10):
point where it can no longer defend us. If you
take an infant and you pull their blood, you would
find that about sixty five percent of what their immune
system is doing is protecting the baby. By the time
you get to be my age, I'm in my mid fifties.
By the time you get to be in your forties,
only about thirty five percent of the immune system is

(47:32):
protecting you. The rest of the time it's fighting all
this bullshit glyphosates, paraquats, microplastics, biz phenols, just all the
nonsense that we are putting into our body that is
causing the immune system get distracted, then what happens, circulating
tumor cell slips by. Now you've got calling cancer. Every
person listening to this podcast right now, at some point
in their life has had something called a circulating tumor cell,

(47:55):
meaning a circulating it's a cancer cell, but the immune
system saw it and just to get out right. So
if we can keep our immune system on our side,
that's where that's where you really start talking about extending,
you know, lifespan.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
Do you ever get resistant to the term biohacking, Yeah,
being in your line of work, because biohacking is like,
you know, biohacking, or doctors could see him be like
this is like a shortcut guy. Yeah, talk about your
resistance to the.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
Term biomas Well, no, hold on, I officially feel bad
about his intro calling one of the best biohockers.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
When when you were saying biohackers, I'm thinking in my head,
I'm like, I wonder if he enjoys, because.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
I can understand why that would be makes sense to us,
like dumb brains are like biohacking, it makes sense to
a cultured mind like this.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
People in this industry field, I'm sure they probably are like,
here we go at.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
All you know, I think, I think.

Speaker 8 (48:50):
You know what's amazing is you know, we get attacked
a lot by the by call it mainstream media, mainstream
modern medicine.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
But the the the data is.

Speaker 8 (49:00):
Not on the side of modern medicine, right. I mean,
we in this country, we spend five.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Trillion dollars a year on healthcare.

Speaker 8 (49:06):
We are the sickest, fattest, most disease orrid nation in
the world. You know, we as Americans, we lead the
world in six things. We lead the world in infant mortality,
we lead the world in maternal mortality. We lead the
world in morbid obesity, type two diabetes, and multiple chronic
disease in the same body. But yet we spend five

(49:28):
trillion dollars a year on healthcare. And you know, even
in my industry, a lot of the a lot of
the big biohackers will attack me sometimes because I'm talking
about the basics of human physiology and they're like, well,
there's no randomized clinical trial that's been peer reviewed that
proves that. I'm like, well, there's never been a randomized
clinical trials that's proved parachutes either. But we have data, right,
nobody's going to jump out of an airplane without a parachute.

(49:48):
But we've never done a clinical study with a control
group where we had a bunch of people jump out
with one and without one, we'd have real right. Yeah, sorry, Stan,
you get the nap pack, you know, knapsack in the Bible, what.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
We're getting on.

Speaker 8 (50:04):
Then this group over here gets the parachute. But the
point is, like, very often we have real data. We've
done two hundred and seventy six thousand randomized clinical trials
in this in this country, and that's the gold standard
of medicine. And yet it's led us to be the sickest, fattest,
most diseaser in nation in the world. And so you
don't find it there. You find, you know, the best

(50:27):
of human performance and longevity in the basics. And the
truth is most people are just not new in the basics.
But I don't mind that term biohacking. I mean, you know,
I never had the luxury in my entire career of
having access to chemicals and pharmaceuticals and synthetics. You know,
I always had to find ways to restore good function

(50:47):
in the body by just giving it back the raw
material it needs to do its job.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
You know, it's funny.

Speaker 8 (50:52):
We believe this in plant physiology. Right, If you had
a leaf, let's say, rotting in a palm tree, and
you called it true arborist, like a true botanist out
to your house, they wouldn't even touch the leaf. They
would cortest the soil and they would go, you know what,
there's no nitrogen in this soil. They would add nitrogen
to the soil.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
And the leaf would heal.

Speaker 5 (51:12):
Right.

Speaker 8 (51:13):
Human beings are no different, right, There's not a single
compound known to mankind. There is no protein, mineral, vitamin,
amino acid. There's no nutrient of any kind that we
put into the human body that gets used in the
form that we put it in. Without a single exception,
Everything that goes into our body gets converted into the

(51:33):
usable form. It goes through a process of being converted
so the body can use it. This process is called methylation. So,
like you take folic acid, the most prevalent nutrient in
the human diet, the body converts it into methyl folate.
If you don't have methyl folate because your body can't
make this conversion, what happens, Well, now you're walking around

(51:55):
with anxiety. You're walking around with mood numbness, your gut
motility is off. So now you have gas, bloating, diarrhea, constipation, irritability, cramping.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
So what do you do.

Speaker 8 (52:06):
You start doing food allergy testing and food sensitivity testing.
Nothing seems to work. I eat the same thing Monday,
I blow up like a tick. I eat the exact
same thing on Wednesday and I'm fine, Well, that can't
be a food allergy. So very often what happens in
human beings is we get nutrient deficient and then all
of a sudden, we have the expression of this deficiency

(52:27):
over here. Like I'm walking around with this like generalized anxiety,
Like I don't know why, I like always feel anxious.
I always feel this sense of being of anxiety. Then
I'm sure there's listeners of yours listening to this podcast
right now they're like, dude, that's exactly how I feel.

Speaker 7 (52:44):
Well.

Speaker 8 (52:44):
If you have anxiety and you can't point to the
specific trigger, like I get it. If you're afraid of
heights and you walk to the edge of a thirtieth
floor balcony, I expect you to feel anxious. If you're
claustrophobic and you step.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
On a crowded elevator. Okay, I expect you to feel anxiety.

Speaker 8 (53:00):
But if you're just chilling having a podcast right where
we're doing right now, or you're sitting back here like
these guys are right here, and there's no presence of
a fear, and you're just all of a sudden overwhelmed
by anxiety, which sixty five percent of Americans say they are.
That is, you don't have a mental illness or a
mood disorder, You have a nutrient deficiency and that's how
the body expresses itself. So like modern medicine wants to

(53:22):
come in with chemicals, with synthetics, with pharmaceuticals. You know,
I sit on Bobby Kennedy's committee.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
So MAHA. It's called MAHA Action, and.

Speaker 8 (53:35):
It's really just trying to address the amount of poisons
and pasticides and herbicides and just chemicals and bullshit that
is in the everyday diets of Americans, like slowly micropoisoning
ourselves to death. These big companies like Keem China, which
make chemicals like paraquat, which is an insecticide, which by

(53:55):
the way, is banned in China. So imagine you're a
Chinese chemical manufacturing company, and you're country doesn't allow you
to sell this chemical because they know how bad it is.
So guess what they do. They export it to the US, right,
and we we buy billions and billions of metric tons
of this shit, we spray it on our crops, and
then they lobby our congressmen to give them indemnity from

(54:17):
harm cause to our citizens for things that are outlawed
in their own country. It's mind numbing how far we've
gone down the road of just allowing poisons and toxins
into our food supply, and we're walking around. We're the sickest, fattest,
you know, disease ord nation in the country, with the
high streets of childhood cancer. Nobody's just talking about basic

(54:39):
physical education in the public school system, you know, like
most a lot of these public schools like remove physical
education and replace it with DEI programs, right, so they
would become more diverse and more sensitive to other people's feelings.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
But you can't put a.

Speaker 8 (54:55):
Nine year old boy in a chair for seven hours
and then stare at up.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
You got to let it go. Break something into yeah,
a kind of break.

Speaker 8 (55:02):
So they got to hit each other with sticks, they
got to run around the sunlight.

Speaker 5 (55:05):
They kind of feel like there's any intention by the
healthcare system to keep us sick.

Speaker 8 (55:10):
Well, you know, I feel like ironically, the Food and
Drug Administration is called the Food and Drug Administration because
the food leads to the drugs, and very often if
we just cleaned up the food supply. When you think that,
the United States is ranked sixty sixth in the world
in life expectancy. So I used to be a mortality researcher.

(55:31):
So we used to take ten years of medical records
and ten years of demographic data, and we would predict
how many more months you had left on earth for
big life insurance policies like twenty five million fifty million
dollar life insurance policies or big annuities. And if you
took all of that research and you boiled it down

(55:51):
to its simplest form, it would be that the reason
why most Americans are not living healthier, happier, longer, more
fulfilling lives are because of what we called modifiable risk
factors like diet and lifestyle changes that you could make
tomorrow that would dramatically extend your life. So I do
feel like, you know, when these when seventy four percent

(56:14):
of our nutritional research is funded by big food, you
get a food pyramid that says lucky Charms is more
nutritious than grass fed steak.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
That's how you get this shit.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
It's crazy, that pyramid because I remember that we've talked about.

Speaker 5 (56:29):
It in health class.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
Yeah, having your bases, your carves and the sugars and
all the things. And it's like sitting there being like, yeah,
this is it. This is what they're telling me. And
now I'm sitting here at thirty four years old, and
everyone's like, yeah, proven, that's incorrect. Proven it should actually
just be flipped upside down.

Speaker 8 (56:45):
Yeah, we've gotten so much wrong about basic human physiology.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Dude.

Speaker 8 (56:48):
Our liver makes cholesterol. Eighty five percent of the cholesterol
in your blood is made by your liver.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
But the conspiracy theory says, was it accidental or was
it right?

Speaker 5 (56:57):
It's like, why did we get it wrong? Right?

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Well, how do you get it wrong?

Speaker 4 (57:01):
And how did America be the one to get it wrong?
You have all these other countries, all those things happening.
I go to my wife is from Canada. I go
to Canada, I grab a ketchup bottle, a Heinz ketchup bottle.
The ingredients list is a third the size of it
as in America. How did this get lost in translation?

Speaker 8 (57:16):
Well, you think about how the whole system is structured.
I mean, first of all, if you're a pharmaceutical company,
you make chemicals and synthetics and pharmaceuticals that go into
hundreds of millions of human beings, you have no fiduciary
responsibility to those people. So I make a chemical that's
going to be injected into your bloodstream, I have no
fiduciary to you. Who's my fiduciary to my investor. I

(57:38):
can actually go to prison if I do not make
a return for my investor. If I don't do what's
in the best interest of my investor, Well, my investor
also doesn't have a fiduciary duty to you. So my
duty is not to make the cleanest, healthiest products. My
duty is to make the biggest profit. If I don't
create the biggest profit, I can actually face criminal prosecution.

(57:58):
I will likely not, and you can look at the
history of all of these big settlements. I will likely
not face criminal prosecution for harming you or your family,
or for millions of people, but I can go to
jail if I don't get a return on investment from
my investor. And then you stack that on top of
the fact that we have slowly, over time we have
done what I call we have socialized the expense and

(58:22):
privatized the profit. So what I mean by that is,
if you are a food manufacturer, a chemical company, or
pharmaceutical company, largely your profit comes from the taxpayer, because
who pays for your product medicator Medicare.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Who funds medicator Medicare? The taxpayer?

Speaker 8 (58:39):
Okay, so the taxpayer that all of us in this
bus right now, we're paying taxes into the system. The
system is compensating private companies to their balance sheet for
making chemicals and synthetics and pharmaceuticals, and so the public
provides the payment and private industry collects the profit. And

(59:00):
so once you design a system like that and then
you allow them to lobby to the point where they're
indemnified from known harm, there is no other industry there
where you can manufacture a product that knowingly causes harm
and continue to manufacture without any any any risk of

(59:20):
or or obligation. I mean, if you're if your general mode,
I mean, how many cars have you heard recalled in
your lifetime? You know it's like, well, Mitsubishi, you know
the breaks freeze. Okay, well they recall all those cars
and they fix that chip. Right, you know, every time
the Tesla catches fire, they recall those Teslas, they fix
that battery problem. If you're if you're if you make
synthetics and chemicals and pharmaceuticals, you can harm as many

(59:42):
people as you want. You're indemnified from that harm. So
the incentive is not there to help people. The incentive
is there to drive profits.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
And it's you.

Speaker 8 (59:51):
Know, it's it's sad if we if you think that
some sub Saharan South African nations that do not have
clean water insanitation are living longer than the average American,
you realize how upside down the system is, right, you know,
and everyone listening to the show has either has been

(01:00:12):
or has a loved one or someone they know that
has gone into that system, and they become a statistic
of that system. Because the third leading cause of death
in the United States is medical error. So imagine if
you applied that to any other industry, right, imagine if
you were, like I don't know, you sold home security systems,
but you are the third leading cause of home invasion.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
You'd be out of business learning pretty fast. But in
the healthcare system, they're like great, you know, yeah, this
is keep pushing, Yeah, keep pushing. That's why I'm so
on board with Bobby Kennedy's agenda.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
Yeah, talk to me about that a little bit. Obviously,
the administration will it took over virgin your twentieth so
there's still a lot of unpacking that you guys have
to do. But when you sit in this chair right
now in the middle of August, what is like maybe
the number one thing you've identified that you have to
get out of the American.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Diet, Well, you know this.

Speaker 8 (01:00:59):
So what's really interesting about the Make America Healthy Again,
the MAHA movement, if you will, which is an a
political movement, is you know, you took people from two
polar opposite ends of the spectrum. Like if you got
Bobby Kennedy and Donald Trump, outside of making kids and
Americans healthy, they probably wouldn't agree on a single thing,
you know, like big oil, food, agriculture, green energy. But

(01:01:20):
in the area where we're in service to our children
and in service to the health of Americans, there's broad agreement,
and all all Bobby is trying to do and is say,
we should hold pharmaceutical companies to the same standard that
we hold every other product or service that is going

(01:01:41):
to go into somebody's somebody's body, we should do the
same level of rigorous testing. We're not anti vax we
are just pro research to make sure that they're.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Safe and effective.

Speaker 8 (01:01:51):
When the vaccine started, for example, they said, oh, it
prevents the infection. Great, you get vaccinated, you don't get COVID.
And a few months later they're like, well, you do
actually get COVID. And they're like, well, it prevents a spread.
And then a few months later we're like, o't didn't
really prevent the spread.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
And then they were like, well, it reduces the risk
of severe.

Speaker 8 (01:02:09):
Complications, and then like this other one, it actually doesn't
reduce the risk of severe complications.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Well what does it do? What makes a hell of
a profit, That's what it does.

Speaker 8 (01:02:18):
And and so you know, we allowed the experimentation on
hundreds of millions of people. The worst thing we ever
did to humanity during COVID and this is probably going
to cut your audience right in half, but it was
residential quarantining masking and social distancing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
I don't think half just no.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
They're already gone, no anti.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
Most of our boys are out there like going on.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
They're still they're still what's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
All right?

Speaker 8 (01:02:50):
Usually I cut the audience right and half as soon
as I start talking about vaccines, vaccines, politics, and religion.
But but those are those are the three no fly zones.
But in any case, what what what Bob he's been
able to do with this maha Agen has been able
to do in the very short period of time they've
been off in office. You know, they've been petroleum based
food dies. So think about this, just like your point

(01:03:10):
in going to Canada right where you have this, you
had a red Skaldele and a red Skalle and they
both look red, and they both taste exactly the same
way on one's actually colored with beet juice and one
is colored with a petroleum based food dye. What's a
petroleum based food dye. It's a fuel source that we
use for buses like this. Your body doesn't have enzymes
to break that down, causes inflammation in system tries to

(01:03:33):
attack it. So why do we do that? Well, because
we're allowed to manufacture, facture things cheaper the fifty one
thousand chemicals that we use in the agricultural system in
this country. The chemical companies are seeking broad immunity for
that they actually can't sell in their own mother countries,

(01:03:54):
you know. And so Bobby Kennedy is trying to put
a stop to that. He's going to say, hey, bear,
you're a German company.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
You make round up lifeas eate.

Speaker 8 (01:04:03):
You want to spray that shit on our food here,
which you're not allowed to spray on your food at home,
and you want us to indemnify you from harm cost
to our citizens, and you want the taxpayer to foot
this bill.

Speaker 5 (01:04:15):
We're not going to do it.

Speaker 8 (01:04:17):
And so petroleum based food dice got out of this system.
Some of the other big wins were the snap food program,
you know, the food stamp program. They were able to
get high sugary sodas and candies. You can still buy
high sugaristas if you want, still buy candies, still buy
a vapet, buy cigarettes, still buy alcohol. You just can't
do it with the taxpayer's money.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:04:36):
So now twenty six states don't quote me on that,
it's around twenty six states have signed on to say, yeah,
we're going to take that ten billion dollars and we're
going to redirect it to these underserved communities, and we're
going to actually force them.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
To buy whole foods. Those are ways you.

Speaker 8 (01:04:50):
Make massive sweeping change, right, you know. And getting physical
education back in.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
The school system. I mean, you'll actually see.

Speaker 8 (01:04:58):
The rates of all of these I don't even like
this term, but mental mental disorders or mood disorders a
d D ADHD, poor tension span, lack of focus and concentration,
kids that can't complete their assignments follow directions that they're
hammering with that or all. You're going to see those
rates eviscerate when we just do simple things like bringing

(01:05:20):
physical education back into the school system, getting all the
process shipped out of their diets and putting just whole
foods into their diets. Yeah, and getting back to the basics.
So that's what I think.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
That part of the movement's all about.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
Yeah, that presidential test when you're in elementary and middle school, man, Yeah,
they figured out boys and men. You go down, you
do the stretch thing first, and the setups in a minute. Yeah,
you yourself up like will my boy will he got
thirty six. I gotta get myself at least thirty.

Speaker 8 (01:05:47):
Seven we like years ago when I'm when I there's
a box right there.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
It is stretching, a stretch box.

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
Yeah, the stretch box. That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
That create Oh that's the fifth grade presidential Yeah. Yeah,
he looks like he's struggling. Yeah, that's where you're at.
That is a big grader.

Speaker 5 (01:06:09):
Expect to get the most push ups. And then you
hear one of your boys at like sixty eight in
the push up contest.

Speaker 8 (01:06:14):
Yeah, yeah, heard thirty second dead hang. You know, run
a mile in less than nine minutes, do ten unbroken
push ups and twenty unbroken sit ups. I mean that
seems to be like very basics. And yet you know,
seventy seven percent this is a Department of the seven Yeah,
Department of Defense statistic. Seventy seven percent of our military

(01:06:39):
age men and women these are these are men and
women that are that qualify for military service due to
their age. Seventy seven percent of them cannot enter the
military due to just poor health. If you don't think
that is a national security disaster that three quarters of
our nation's eligible military men and women do not qualify
for military service because of poor health.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Like we got to turn this around, you know, it's crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:07:04):
Like years ago, two thousand and sixteen, I owned a
CrossFit gym for a while called Real Fitness in Naples,
and one of the things we did for community outreach
was we would we would let these kids come from
the grade school and then we would put them through
free wads and we had like almost like after school
care for ninety minutes, and the parents loved it. They'd
shuttle them over to our gym, and so we would

(01:07:27):
try to break them into groups so they wouldn't, you know,
the kids that were not as physically active, wouldn't be
embarrassed by the kids that were killing it. And we
had like this basic, basic, basic test. We had a
foot high box jump twelve inches high and all the
kids had to do was sit down on the box
jump and then just stand up, just stand up. And

(01:07:48):
you wouldn't believe the number of the Like the first day,
my partner TJ and I were like, what the fuck
is going on? Like they were falling off, they were
rolling to the side, they were putting their hands down
and I'm like, no, no, no, just sit down and stand up.
They couldn't stand up from a foot high box jump.
Then we would hold them up on the on the
pull up bars and we were like, okay, just hang
here for thirty seconds, and you'd you'd let them go

(01:08:10):
and they fall and you're like, no, no, hold on,
don't let go. The point is to not let go.
And they would just as soon as you let go
over their waist they fall to the floor. And I
just remember how baffled I was that these kids like
couldn't stand up from a box jump and couldn't hang
for thirty seconds.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
And of course you had some kids were just swinging
around on there all day long, right, but.

Speaker 8 (01:08:30):
The vast majority of them that just zero coordination, no
sense of like their body awareness, And I mean it
was I just remember how shocked I was by that.
I'm like, man, we're in a bad state of affairs.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
Talking about some things to change on like the macro
level for like schools and kids and youth and stuff
like that. We were talking a little bit before this
pot started. Oh what about like how do you get
to where the average American can access the things like
we get to access so you're in an industry to
where the medicine can be coined as medicine three point

(01:09:05):
zero yourself. You got peter Atia, doctor Hubermant where people
who take it all very seriously and they have the
means to do it can work with a group to
where you're paying out of pocket, your insurance doesn't cover
it to get all of these blood panels, to where
if you go and consume Gary Breker, any of these
people I'm mentioning, they talk about like all these blood
panels and blood work that you can get so that
way you can identify things from a cellular level. You

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shouldn't be taken all of these vitamins and subblings because
your body might not need it. Right going through a
sleep study, you're getting access to a dexa scan. At
what point does the shift happen to where the average
person will be able to access these things versus going
in and getting a twenty minute check up from a
doctor and then he prescribes you an orange bottle and
then sends you on your way.

Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
Yeah, or you don't have to sit there and have
an injury and it's just an acute injury and they
just focus on that injury, not everything else is going
on going on with the body.

Speaker 8 (01:09:53):
Yeah, I mean when powerful enough people at the highest
end of government wake up and realize it is less
expensive to prevent the disease than it is to treat it.
Right now, we spend eighty percent of our five trillion
dollar budget on preventable chronic disease. You can't overlook that.
I'm going to say that again. We spend eighty percent
of our budget five trillion dollars a year on preventable

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chronic disease, morbid obesity, type two diabetes, chronic issues like
autoimmune which I think is another category that is completely misunderstood.
You know, genetically inherited disease, which is another completely nonsensical
thing that we've been sold by the medical community, is
that we inherit disease from our offspring. Because my uncle
had high blood pressure. I have it, so I have

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to subscribe to a lifetime of medication. So it's as
we are slowly waking up to the fact that it
will cost us less money to prevent those chronic diseases
than it does to treat them, we start throwing that
money at the deaf sit and it becomes very unpopular
for politicians to be on the other side of that equation.
That's when the real change is going to occur. But
let's say, let's just walk through some things that you

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could do for nothing, right, Because I get a lot
of flak when we talk about Dana White and some
of the other folks that I've worked with, because he
has a red light bed, he has a PMF matt,
he has a what's called ewatt machine.

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
He's a one exercise per se.

Speaker 5 (01:11:16):
Just to clarify for the audience too, I'm talking about
medicine three point zero, and he keeps using the word
preventive disease. It's like you guys working on preventative working
with like impreventative medicine versus when you go to the
doctor where it's more reactive medicine.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
Yeah, it's very true.

Speaker 8 (01:11:30):
It's just more of what God gave us, less of
what man makes us. You know, I believe a lot
more and what God gave us than what man makes us.
I don't believe that when somebody has a mental illness
or an autoimmune disease or a chronic condition, that they
are missing things like beta blockers and adderall right, those
are not what we have deficiencies in. And we have

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deficiencies and nutrients that are causing these conditions to exist.
So let's say that you want to do Dana White's
protocol one hundred and twenty nine thousand dollars light bed,
a five thousand dollar PMF MATT, and a fifty five
hundred dollars e watt exercise with oxygen machine. You can
expose your skin to sunlight right, especially in the first

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hour of the day. And people are like, yeah, I
think that's a little over blonde. It sounds like bullshit
and witchcraft absolutely not, Like we are so out of
touch with the circadian cycle of the earth. If you
watch Huberman's podcast, he goes deep into the science of
just morning sunlight. So we've been taught to fear the sun, right,
I mean, if you actually and I've done this on

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lectures before, if you actually took a chart of the
parabolic rise in sunscreen, right since the nineteen fifties, there's
been this absolute parabolic spike in sunscreen, I mean sun
skin cancer. If you took the parabolic rise in skin cancer,
it would be superimposable with the parabolic use of sunscreen.
So how is it that we're getting less sun using

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more sunscreen and we're getting more skin cancer because the
polar opposite is happening now. You know, twenty three brands
of sunscreen have been pulled from the market since twenty
eighteen for directly or indirectly causing skin cancer. And we've
been taught to fear the sun. So number one, stop
fearing the sun, and number two, learn to do things

(01:13:16):
like this basic breathwork. Just getting back to really obnoxiously
deep breathing. Why because as we age, our auxiliary muscles
of respiration start to atrophy and we begin to progressively
breathe more shallow. As you breathe more shallow, you become
more hypoxic, more oxygen deprived. As you become more oxygen deprived,

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your cells cannot defend themselves. So learn to do breath work.
I do a style of breath work called whim Hoff.
You can get tutorials all online for free learning how
to do.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
That style of heth.

Speaker 8 (01:13:51):
Yeah, that's like the box breathing more second.

Speaker 5 (01:13:54):
Educational videos or it's like yeah there was, I got
a sight lay it next to you and you just
he takes you through it. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:13:59):
And if you can every day take your shoes off,
touch the surface of the earth, the earth has a
low goouse current. It is a magnetic current. Again, I
get a lot of flak for this too. It earthing
and grounding is a very real thing. If you had
zero money and you just added morning sunlight, breathwork, and
grounding to your routine, you would hit the red light bed,

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the PMF, matt and the oxygen.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
So, if you've got.

Speaker 8 (01:14:25):
A million dollars lying around, or one hundred thousand dollars
lyne around, go buy a red light bed. But if
you don't, like most people, don't expose your skin to sunlight.

Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
If it's so simplistic to just get ten minutes of
sunlight in the morning, why what is the necessity for
even spending one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars on
a red lightbed?

Speaker 8 (01:14:42):
Purely communient, it's still the same on a cloudy day,
or if you're up, like when you're working out early
in the morning, it's still a little dark outside of
your like if you're getting after it it's winter time.
So it's it's purely convenience, right. I mean, I tell
my wife all the.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
Time, I don't have it.

Speaker 8 (01:15:00):
I don't have a car problem, I don't have a
watch problem. I have a biohacking problem. So my whole
our whole house is just a bunch of biohacking stuff,
hyperbaric chambers.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
And perfectly.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
Tested.

Speaker 5 (01:15:13):
You want to bring the machine, and she's like, hang
on a.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
Second, this is what we're going to put that over there.

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
We're doing well over there.

Speaker 8 (01:15:18):
We did have a little bit of we had some
tension over the third hyperwear microphone.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
Any time you want to but it, he says, some
jump down, she's grabbing it.

Speaker 9 (01:15:29):
What he likes to sneak things in when I'm out
of town.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Yeah, hey, smart head, moving about small things. We're talking
relationship advice as well.

Speaker 10 (01:15:40):
The size of this bus, maybe half of the size
of this bus into my master bedroom.

Speaker 8 (01:15:45):
And then I didn't say a word, and I pretended
like it had always been there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Guess like, yeah, yeah, what is this? What are you
talking about? What I said?

Speaker 8 (01:15:54):
She comes back, she went skiing for five days in Switzerland.
I was like, you know, you want to go scan
in Switzerland. This is the kind of ship that happened.

Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
My So I had these your whole rooms of hyperbary chamber.

Speaker 8 (01:16:03):
Literally working twenty four hours a day around the clock
for like five straight days. They ripped the wall out,
they moved the hyperbaric, and they put the wall back.
They put the wallpaper back over the wall, and.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
She walks into the mask.

Speaker 5 (01:16:14):
You bro, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
I thought it was pretty badass. We just got.

Speaker 5 (01:16:20):
If we all lived together, we'd be fired up. Yeah,
you're talking about marriage, dynamic and everything else. I'm like, oh, yeah,
I can see more.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
Yeah we took a yeah the wall, yeah, yeah, peaks
and troughs. That was that was a try to.

Speaker 9 (01:16:32):
Go because he apologized that he did take it too far.

Speaker 8 (01:16:35):
And yeah, I looked at it and I was like,
ability supporting a lot bigger than I thought it was.
It looked like a fucking submarine. And she comes around
the corner and she goes, well, yeah, that's true. Then
he added on this podcast okay, because she goes, what
the fuck is that?

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
And I go, the fuck is what?

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
And she's like, the fuck is that?

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
Like Bige, thats been.

Speaker 8 (01:16:56):
Here for months and like literally the dry well you
could see where he had done the tape and I
was like it was still wet, and I'm like, you
gotta paint over it. She's gonna be here in five hours.
They painted over it and the you know, the moisture
still came through so you.

Speaker 5 (01:17:09):
Can see all the so and so.

Speaker 10 (01:17:14):
By the way, he didn't tell you about the second
hyperbaric chamber, which is now in our gym, which used
to have gym equipment and now it's just another second
hyperbaric It's.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
You got to do it twice.

Speaker 8 (01:17:24):
Yeah, it's about this big and it's got rowers and
waits and you.

Speaker 9 (01:17:28):
Can pick your hyperbaric chamber.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:17:30):
We had a third one too.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
Yeah. A lot of people have guest rooms.

Speaker 4 (01:17:32):
You guys have multiple hyperbaric chambers.

Speaker 8 (01:17:34):
Chamber, and then we got like hydrogen nano gas, hydrogen nanotubs,
we got red light.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Beds, we got cold plunges.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
One of my original questions is what is too much?
When is it enough? You know you have you have
you seen the guy that has like Brian Johnson, Yeah,
two million dollars in his body of single year. He's
like essentially trying to live until till till forever you
tell Jesus comes back. He's trying to get it all,
He's trying to get it all done. Like, what is
too much? Because there's got to be like a level

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of I want to also live my life. Yeah, And
from a social standpoint, like if you get to a
point where I can't even go out to eat because
the seed oils all these different things that could possibly
be in it, it's just it can be crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:18:15):
And I think, and I'm a big fan of Brian Johnson,
I think he's showing us what's possible, not what's probable.
I mean, it's not probable for just about anyone. But
you know, to his credit, Look, he's spending his own
money and he's and he's getting data on his body
and he's just sharing it with the world and he
gets a lot of flak for it. And I'm like, dude,
leave the guy alone. He sold his company for a
couple hundred million bucks and he's spending the money on

(01:18:36):
trying to see how long he can live. And he's
given you a window into it. You don't have to
do what he's doing, but he's showing you what's possible
and not what's probable. But the majority of us would
be better served to just get back to the basics,
you know, like I said, sunlight, grounding, breath work, whole food, diet, sleep,
you know, basic supplementation.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Everyone.

Speaker 8 (01:18:55):
The majority of people listening to this right now are
probably supplementing for the sake of supplementing. They're not supplementing
for deficiency. And that's where most people go wrong, you know,
like if you ask me about COQ ten, res ferratral ne,
a d ashwaganda, Saint John's word. I mean, all these
things are great. The question is does your body need it?

(01:19:16):
And there is one test called a methylation test.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
It's a genetic test.

Speaker 8 (01:19:22):
It doesn't look at all of your genes. It just
looks at the genes the nine or twelve genes that
convert nutrients in the human body. They give you the
raw material that you need to power the body. It's
a test you do once in your lifetime. You definitely
do not have to do this test with me. Hundreds
of companies offer methylation tests. They're not expensive. Basically, you

(01:19:43):
take a cheek swab, you send it to a lab.
The results come back and it says here's what your
body can process, and here's what it can and it
will give you the basic supplements that you need. And
by basic, I mean they're usually a complex of B vitamins,
something called methylfol eight basic acids that you could get
off the shelf and vitamin D three with K two.

(01:20:04):
If you actually supplement for deficiency first, right like back
to the tree example where the soil is deficient and
Newton nitrogen. If you don't add nitrogen to the soil,
nothing else matters, and you can cover Even if you
didn't want to do those tests, you could cover the
basics with a methylated multivitamin five thousand I use a
vitamin D three with K two and about eight hundred

(01:20:27):
micrograms of methyl folly. Those three things would cover eighty
five to ninety percent of the basics of what the
majority of human beings are missing. If you give those
nutrients to your body, now it can start to manufacture
and convert things inside of your body that lead to
your mood, that lead to your emotional state, that return

(01:20:50):
your gut motility to normal. So take for example, the
whole category of let's say mental illness like depression, anxiety
add ADHD. If you just took those three things, probably
eighty percent of your listeners have suffered from someone or
all of those things at some point in their life.
Right and you're told that you have mental illness or

(01:21:13):
you have a mood disorder. But if you start backing
this up right, Okay, Well, how do we define depression
in this country? Well, we define depression as an inadequate
supply of serotonin. So, in other words, if you're low
on serotonin, you're by definition depressed. So wouldn't you think
that if the definition of depression is low serotonin, that
the fix would be to raise serotonin. That's not what

(01:21:34):
we do, right. We take people that are low on serotonin,
we put them on something called an SSRI, a selective
serotonin reuptake inhibitor. And what does that do, Well, it
doesn't raise your serotonin. But so by its own definition,
it doesn't end depression, which is why most people take
these things for twelve, fourteen, sixteen, eighteen years. If we
actually took a further step back and said, well, how

(01:21:55):
do we make serotonin? If I'm low on this thing,
how do I get more of it? What we make
serotonin in the gut of the serotonin in your body
is right here. If you don't have it here, you
can't have it here. So depression rarely begins in the
outside environment. It almost always begins in the gut. And
so how do I make serotonin in the gut? Well,

(01:22:16):
you take an amino acid called trip to fan, the
one that makes you sleepy after Thanksgiving dinner. You methylate
that into the neurotransmitter serotonin, and then it goes up
to your brain and it creates mood and emotion. So
could I be depressed because I'm low in serotonin because
I don't have the right complex of B vitamins and
enough supply of trip to fan. Yes, those are simple

(01:22:40):
nutrient deficiencies that eventually wind up as a mental disease.
Right then, you'll never convince me that sixty five percent
of Americans suffer from a clinical level of depression. Like,
it's just not we don't have that big of a
depressed society. We have a nutrient depleted society that is
expressing itself as depression. There's so many people running around

(01:23:01):
with anxiety or ADHD, and they think they have They
think that they're deficient in aterall or vibance or riddlin.
They're not deficient in those. They're deficient in the complex
of B vitamins and the methyl folates and the amino
acids that give them the material to make the neurotransmitters
that build mood and emotion, and so like, my message

(01:23:24):
for humanity is you can take a basic level of supplementation.
Focus on sleep, water, hydration. Yes, you can add hydrogen
things like that. But before you go and step up
to the big leagues of buying all this fancy equipment
and everything, if you just covered those basics, man, your
life would take an entirely different trajectory.

Speaker 7 (01:23:45):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:23:46):
I do this thing sometimes when I speak from a
stage where I say, I'll take any ailment that you
or a loved one suffers from. It can be an
autoimmune disease, it can be a mental illness, it can
be a mood disorder. Any ailment, and I will tell
you what raw material is missing from your body that
is causing that condition to exist. Because so many of

(01:24:08):
us have just bought into the fact that because my
parents or my grandparents or my aunts or uncles have it,
I have it now I need to be on a
lifetime in medication. Or I just suffer from generalized anxiety
for what reason, I don't know. I just have generalized anxiety.
I'm just I have generalized.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Depression, I have ADD or I have ADHD.

Speaker 8 (01:24:30):
My belief is that you don't have any of those things.
You have a nutrient deficiency.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
I do I think that. Fuck yeah, dude, I went
to that's a good question. I just popped it up.

Speaker 5 (01:24:43):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
It's actually a great question.

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
This question is absolutely real.

Speaker 5 (01:24:46):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
That is so real.

Speaker 8 (01:24:47):
I mean I learned to believe in it when I
lived in Chicago for six years in grad school. I
went to grad school in Chicago. That's where I got
my second degree in biology. Human biology degree. Dude, you
don't see the sun for seven months, and I lived
in the South floop of Chicago, And I'm telling you,
you can feel it in the city. Like everybody's just
pissed off, irritated. They want to fight, drink, sleepery pizza. Right,

(01:25:10):
It's like that's right. And and then you get that
first spring day. And sorry if you live in Chicago,
but and you get that first spring day where like
all the windows pop open and the sunshining to people flood.

Speaker 4 (01:25:23):
The streets, glasses come back on. Dude.

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
It's amazing because that's why I live in Florida.

Speaker 5 (01:25:29):
I grew up in Arizona.

Speaker 4 (01:25:31):
Yeah, you guys call yourself the sunshine state. Arizona actually
is the most sunshine of all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
I actually heard it was Colorado. Did we do af
fact check on that? We can check that, because I.

Speaker 5 (01:25:40):
Would love to.

Speaker 4 (01:25:41):
I would love nothing more than to get.

Speaker 8 (01:25:42):
This, dude, I got I don't think I don't think
that Arizona. What has more sunshine Colorado? The state of
Colorado or the state of Arizona. Arizona is often considered
the sunny state in the US, the sunniest city in
the world.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
Arizona.

Speaker 8 (01:26:05):
Well, you know it's weird, is Colorado has more sunshine
than than Miami. And I didn't realize.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
That that is wild.

Speaker 4 (01:26:10):
Yeah, so I go Arizona Winds and I commit to
the University of Michigan.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
It's awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:26:16):
I'm so glad the transfer portal was not around then
because the first winter I was borderline suicide. Wash dude,
it was so miserable, literally walking around like I have
no idea why I feel so depressed.

Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
I'm sad.

Speaker 4 (01:26:28):
Why is it like homesickness? Not really like you're trying
to identify all these things, but like the middle of
my first winter at Michigan, I was like, why the
hell am I dealing with this?

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Yeah? So, yeah, it's real. Sunlight's medicine.

Speaker 5 (01:26:39):
So how do you combat seasonal depression.

Speaker 8 (01:26:42):
Red light, So yeah, red light and getting outside. So
what happens when there's not a lot of sunlight outside,
people actually stay indoors more often.

Speaker 5 (01:26:51):
Now you're also going back to the cloudy question.

Speaker 8 (01:26:53):
Do you still get Now the blue light comes right
through the blue light that actually impacts what's called cortisol,
your waking hormone in the morning, and actually suppresses melotone
and helps raise cortisol. That blue light will come right
right through the clouds now. If it's really overcast in
like heavy rainy day, or you've got a snowstorm going
on outside, that's that's something different. But on an overcast,
cloudy day, yeah, that sunlight getting into your eyes is

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still the best things that you can do for yourself.
And I would I would actually take regular trips to
sunshine states. I mean the if you look at life
expectancy around the world, the longest life expectancies on Earth
are centered right around the equator. For every twenty degrees
is a longitude, yes is our latitude. For every twenty

(01:27:37):
degrees latitude you get away from the equator, there's a
precipitous drop in life expectancy until you get to the
polls where you have the shortest life expectancy on Earth.

Speaker 5 (01:27:45):
True.

Speaker 8 (01:27:45):
Eskimo, when I was born in nineteen seventy had a
life expectancy of fifty six years.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:27:50):
They never saw this on and when they did, they
were so layered up. They were just critically deficient in
vitamin D three. And so a lot of you can
do is you can combat seasonal effective disorder by taking
vitamin D three five thousand. I use a vitamin D
three a day with a little bit of K two,
and most manufacturers put those two together. The best vitamin

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manufacturers will combine K two and vitamin D three and
that's a huge combative force for a seasonal effective disorder.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
But I learned to believe it. Like I said, I
went to grad school for six years in Chicago. Dude,
it was it was really depressing, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:28:25):
And then when you don't see the sun and you're
not going outside, you're eating like shit, you're drinking a lot,
and then cocktail sadness. Yeah, it's good cocktail for like
two hours, and then the sadness is like twice the intensity.

Speaker 5 (01:28:39):
You have the supplements that you talk about, vitamin D
and K and then we need to get some red
light in here and this shot. Yeah for the boys,
because we you know, all the boys, Yeah, especial. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
If I send you guys a red light bed, will
you use it?

Speaker 5 (01:28:54):
Do what?

Speaker 8 (01:28:55):
If I send you guys a red light bed, will
you use?

Speaker 3 (01:28:59):
Who? Whoa hold on? Free ship?

Speaker 4 (01:29:05):
I'll be free balling around this whole shop using the
red light there by.

Speaker 5 (01:29:10):
My wife and I. We are getting a new house
at the end of this year and looking for a
spot to maybe get a red light bed.

Speaker 4 (01:29:15):
So all right, something to think about.

Speaker 8 (01:29:17):
I'm shipping you guys a red light bed. All right,
we'll take the best one in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
It's all good.

Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
So one with the shop for the house.

Speaker 8 (01:29:23):
There's a little free ship from here. There's a gym
out there. They didn't pay for it each coming in
the door. When I was like, you guys, get so, yes,
I saw that ship it was up.

Speaker 5 (01:29:35):
Yeah, how far saw that sore next gym?

Speaker 8 (01:29:38):
Oh, dude, that thing that is badass. Yeah that is
top of the line.

Speaker 5 (01:29:43):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
That's not inexpensive equipment either. No, that is a legit.

Speaker 4 (01:29:46):
They're not even partners of ours, really, I guess. So yeah,
there's essentially no deliver not paying us. Really, they brought
that in and they're like, yeah, you guys feel crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
Good for that and everything it is.

Speaker 8 (01:29:58):
My wife said, it's Florida State colors.

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
Yeah, she's a Florida State fan.

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
Tough year last year, it's been a couple of tough years.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
Yeah, it's hard for her to be.

Speaker 4 (01:30:11):
It's supposed to make the playoffs that one, Yeah, and
then Georgia happened. It's not This is not that type
of podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
Not that type of podcast. Gut health, Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
Is it the most important thing to take care of?
And how do you repair gut health?

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
Great question, So thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
It's always nice to hear that.

Speaker 8 (01:30:33):
So if you think about what the gut is first
of all. So, first of all, our gut is actually
outside of our body. It's hard to remember that, but
you know, the inside of your testinal tract is continuous
with the outside of your cheek, right just folds in.
So this tube, which is thirty six feet long that
runs through our body from our mouth to the rectum.

(01:30:56):
This thirty six foot long tube has a single cell
layer one cell layer on the inside that protects our
outside environment from our inside environment. That single cell layer
is one of the most important cell layers in all
of human physiology, because what it does is it keeps
bad things in the gut and it keeps good things
in the bloodstream. When that layer gets compromised, which is

(01:31:17):
called leaky gut, you have all kinds of consequences. So
if we think about what are some of the big
things that go on in the gut, Well, first of all,
remember that we don't eat to feed ourselves, right, Nothing
that you eat, no piece of chicken, no hamburger, no
slice of bread, is in the format that you can
use as energy. The only reason why we eat is

(01:31:38):
to feed our gut bacteria. Our gut bacteria eat to
feed us. There's an intermediary between the food you eat
and the nutrition your body gets, and that intermediary is
your gut bacteria. So we eat for one reason only
to feed our gut bacteria, and they eat for one
reason only to feed us, and so that intermediary is
very important. So you have bacteria in there, and then

(01:32:01):
you have this single cell layer, and when that cell
layer gets disrupted, contents from inside your gut start to
leak into the bloodstream. This causes inflammation. It's the genesis
of a lot of autoimmune disease. If you think about
what else goes on in the gut. The majority of
our neurotransmitters are made in the gut. And what are
neurotransmitters and will neurotransmitters form the basis of every mood

(01:32:22):
and every emotion that you can feel. Dopamine, for example,
is the main.

Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
Driver of behavior.

Speaker 8 (01:32:28):
If I was able to magically stick a syringe in
your arm and just suck the dopamine out of your body,
you would immediately engage in dopamine seeking behavior.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
What does that mean?

Speaker 8 (01:32:38):
That means that you would be seeking something like drugs, alcohol, nicotine, permiscuity, workaholic,
work altaholic. You would do something to chase that dopamine deficiency.
We called this addiction. The absence of dopamine is the
presence of addiction. There is an addict in the world.
If you've ever been an addict or a non a

(01:32:59):
true addict that woke up one morning and said I
want to get really banged up. They woke up one
morning and said I want to feel normal, and it
was the search for normalcy that developed their addiction. They
smoked a cigarette, they took a hit from a joint,
they drank alcohol, they engaged in some kind of crazy
activity like jumping off a cliff and a squirrel suit,
and they're like, whoa, I mean that Russia dobamine made

(01:33:20):
them feel normal.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
So when you talk about all the.

Speaker 8 (01:33:23):
Things that the gut regulates, it not only converts our
food into compounds that the body can use. It not
only manufactures neurotransmitters that make us feel happy make us
feel sad. If your gut is off, you can't feel elation, passion, joy, arousal,
libido because you can't manufacture those emotions. So the gut

(01:33:44):
is incredibly important. Seventy percent of our immune system is
sitting right outside of our gut. And why because that's
where all the action is. And so what are some
great things that you can do for your gut? Well,
there are peptides, probably my favorite peptide in the world,
which is called BPC E one five seven.

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
Golf for BPC. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 5 (01:34:04):
I am incredible. Also founder's client, we are.

Speaker 3 (01:34:09):
I mean it will put me on BPC. It used
to be legal in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:34:12):
I can't believe it's not legal, absolutely crazy, but he
put me on and I would have like just general
soreness to stick at my you know, my.

Speaker 5 (01:34:20):
Leg or my button.

Speaker 4 (01:34:21):
Fine, yeah, I had an ankle. If my ankle will
be swollen up, I feel like I wouldn't be able
to play.

Speaker 5 (01:34:26):
Put it there.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
Acutely, three days later, I'm able to play a game.

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
It's incredible.

Speaker 5 (01:34:29):
It is about Greenfield being on Rogan back in like
twenty fifteen. Yeah, we're talking about red Light putting stem
cell in his his boy downstairs, you know the hats
like yeah, and he do shockwave therapy on it. He
talks about BBC.

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
Yeah, he talks about not being illegal yet I was like, yeah, it's.

Speaker 8 (01:34:48):
Not it's not I legal. There's there's a company called
Peptual they make these. Uh you go on like, because
I think you also have to be concerned about where
you're sourcing, you know, peptides, and you know the majority
of these peptides come from China, and there's a lot
of fillers, binders, a lot of them have metals in them.
I'd be cautious about just going online and searching BPC
one five seven, then just buying it. But if you

(01:35:09):
can get it from a compound pharmacy, which compound pharmacies
make it in America, then it's regulated. But BPC one
five seven is I mean, it's arguably my favorite peptide.
You can stack that with something called TV five hundred,
which these are just healing and wind repair of peptides.
This will actually help to seal that single cell layer
of the gut because not only does it improve soft

(01:35:30):
tissue injuries like you're talking about like ligaments, knees hips, shoulders,
rotator cuffs, low backs, but it's actually a gastric peptide.
It's a gastric penta deca peptide and it's synthesized from
gastric juice. So it really helps calm inflammation in the
gut and helps heal and seal the gut. The majority,
if not all, of my private clients I have on

(01:35:53):
BPC one five seven. It's tolerated very well. Orally you
can take it, orally you can take it by injection.
You can cite injection like you're talking about. Peptual makes
these these pads that you soak with BBC one size
seven and you you put them on the skin and
it will release the BPC one five seven over a
twelve to fourteen hour period. So if you have some

(01:36:14):
kind of nagging, repetitive injury like a rotator cough or
you know, lateral ankle or medial knee, or low back.
Everybody usually has low back issues. It's it's incredible, So
we're talking about the gut. I think BBC one five
to seven. Also, you know, adding things to your your diet,
like fermented vegetables. Just take a serving of fermented vegetable

(01:36:35):
and throw them on the plate with at least one
of your meals fermented vegetables or like Sauer krauts, kimsheese,
even pickled any there's BPC one five to seven stronger tissue,
reduced inflammation, quicker healing, prove brain function. I mean the
the now human clinical studies that are being done on
BBC one five seven, because it was largely done on

(01:36:57):
on animals, now some scale human trials. The data that's
coming out of these trials for neural inflammation, for cognitive function,
for connective tissue injuries is amazing because before we just
fully get off BBC one five seven, what it does
is it harnesses the power of your body to heal itself.

(01:37:20):
So let's say you were walking down the street and
you stepped off a curve and you twisted your right
ankle right. So how does the body know to heal
this right ankle and leave the left ankle alone. It's
because when you tear that tissue, you break open these
little cells called fiberblasts, and they start telling the bloodstream, hey,
I'm hurt, I'm hurt. Starts sending a signal, an inflammatory signal. Well,

(01:37:40):
a platelet that's cruising by in your bloodstream, when it
hears that signal, it bursts and it drops off growth factors.
So you're healing because platelets are bringing growth factors to
the site of injury. What BPC one five seven does
is it amplifies that signal. So if you had ten
platelets cruising by and two jumped out of the bloodstream,

(01:38:00):
you take BBC one five seven, ten plates platelets are
cruising by, and nine will jump out of the blood stream.
So all you're doing is concentrating the healing and.

Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
Power of the human body.

Speaker 8 (01:38:09):
It's I'm a huge, huge fan of peptides. I think
you're going to see Bobby Kennedy widen the lane for
pep tides with the FDA because they're very safe, they're
very effective, they're amino acids, their body breaks them down,
eliminates the waste, and we're taking so many any inflammatories
and cordico steroids in the NFL. I mean steroid injunctions
end more careers early.

Speaker 3 (01:38:31):
Then you could imagine crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:38:32):
Cortizone's crazy once or twice five, but chronic quartzone injections
I mean joke Thiesmond probably, I mean uh not Joe
Thim who's the Miami quarterback Dan Marino. You know his
career was ended early because there's multiple quartzone injections, you know,
constantly into the elbow.

Speaker 5 (01:38:48):
Now, if you sprain your ankle, would you say going
into the site with BBC one fifty seven if you're
injecting it, or if you still do a SubQ in
your gut, it would still get that.

Speaker 8 (01:38:58):
If you did a sub Q in your gut, it
would still get out there. I would either wear a
patch or it would take very high oral doses, right
because BBC one five seven is usually the doses just
around five hundred milligrams orally, but you can take four
or five times that amount very safely with very little
known side effects. Because what will happen is BBC one

(01:39:19):
five to seven will migrate to that site right.

Speaker 5 (01:39:22):
It will.

Speaker 8 (01:39:22):
It is attracted to those cytokinds, those histamines, the signal
coming from the inflammation. So you can take high doses
orally it works very very well. You can also cite
injection inject it, but just like going SubQ, the bloodham
will carry it away and it will find its way
back to that site unless you're going right into the

(01:39:43):
capsule of the joint or something which most people are
not qualified to do. So BBC one five seven is
tolerated very It's one of those pathods you can take orally.

Speaker 3 (01:39:51):
It's not like the growth on.

Speaker 5 (01:39:52):
It in pilform, just saying put the syringe and squeeze in.

Speaker 8 (01:39:55):
You can take it in capsule form. You can take
it in a in a form that a a in
a patch that actually goes into the bloodchream or a
prolonged period of time, which is a method that I
would prefer. You can combine it with things like NAD
and something called g hk cu, which is a copper peptide,
so you can actually get these patches. You soak them

(01:40:17):
with ghk cu copper peptide, n A D and BBC
one five seven. You wear them for twelve or fourteen hours,
and it leaks a consistent dosage into the bloodstream. So
if you had an acute injury or you were recovering
from surgery, that's what I would be That's what I
would be doing. If you specifically have gut issues, I
would be taking BBC one five seven twice a day,

(01:40:39):
orally one thousand milligrams two different times during the day.
The back of the bottle is going to tell you
to take five hundred milligrams for how long until that
the symptoms have result and then it would take it
prophylactically essentially forever, and then there are you know right now?

Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
Oh you do?

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:40:56):
Yeah, yeah, it's been oh it's been a been an
you since.

Speaker 8 (01:41:03):
So this let's just focus on that for a second.
So why do low back problems have a tendency to linger?
Why do rotator cops have a tendency to linger? Why
do why do a lot of these injuries have a
tendency to become chronic? And it can't emphasize this enough.

Speaker 3 (01:41:18):
Is that is that you?

Speaker 5 (01:41:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
Oh, I was like, damn, it's a lot worse than
I thought.

Speaker 5 (01:41:23):
We're like, we're gonna do this pot and I'm gonna
get up, and it's going to take be a nice
few steps just to get fully back up.

Speaker 8 (01:41:28):
Right, all right, If I fix that for you, we
come back on the podcast and do an update. Yes, okay,
I'm gonna put that podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, probably really take offs.

Speaker 5 (01:41:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:41:48):
So again, the thing that we are not addressing, that
is not being addressed in your injury, and it cannot
emphasize this enough, is the microvascular circulation. You assume that
when you take an any influceflammatory, you take a corticosteroid,
even if you take a peptide, then it is getting
to that site, and that what's trapped at that site.
All the inflammatory compounds as histamines and cytokines and all

(01:42:11):
of that stuff are getting out. And the truth is
what happens is it gets trapped because you think about
how small these vessels are. They're microvascular. Your heart is
not pumping the blood to that low back right. This
activity of vasomotor is So if you were too and
I'm going to send you one of these two, if
you were to bathe in hydrogen gas, I know this

(01:42:33):
sounds crazy, but if you were to bathe in hydrogen gas.
If you were to start taking hydrogen tablets, and if
you were to take slow release long duration BPC one
five seven and TB five hundred and regularly use red
light therapy, a powerful enough bed. You can't use a
bed that plugs into a one ten outlet. You have
to use one that plugs into a two twenty. You

(01:42:53):
need very powerful light. In the span of seven to
ten weeks, it would be a permanent of your past
because what's developed is juice.

Speaker 4 (01:43:03):
That what you get right now, Holy, and we'll see
into ten weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:43:07):
Yeah, talk about it.

Speaker 4 (01:43:08):
And it's twenty five boys operational, Yeah, boy making a
come back.

Speaker 7 (01:43:11):
To the end.

Speaker 3 (01:43:12):
Fact you return to twenty twenty three.

Speaker 5 (01:43:15):
Right, twenty twenty is when this situation happened. Okay, and
it's bothered me for like in moments episodes that and
now it just feels like more of like a way
of life. I've been trying to help correct it, like
there's been doing things where I've been making good progress,
But you're right, it feels like there's like zero the
things you got to do just to get circulation going there.
And yeah, just to feel warmed up is a process.

Speaker 8 (01:43:35):
It's it's and that's why you know, cold punging would
be you know, good for you, would probably help take
some of the pain away. But what we have to
do is we have to restore that vasive motor circulation
so you can actually start to heal that that part
of that that site. Your regular oral routes, even regular
subcutaneous routes, no matter what you're administering into the body,
it's still going into the bloodstream. The bloodstream is delivering it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:57):
To that location.

Speaker 8 (01:43:58):
If if you could actually play your injury on a thermograph,
you would see that all of that stuff is making
it almost to the site and it's just stopping, right.
So what you're doing to heal and repair that injury
is not working because the delivery system, the highway to
transport those things there is broken down.

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:44:18):
So once we restore that highway, which is the microvascular system,
and you do that with hydrogen gas, you do that
with red light therapy, and you do that with slower
these peptides because they will bollist doses will not make
it to that location and then they'll be gone from
your bloodstream. Very small amounts will make it to that location,
So you need prolonged sustained dosing. This is going to

(01:44:40):
be a game changer for you.

Speaker 4 (01:44:43):
I feel like the star from Let's gain some knowledge
to now. I feel like we're both sitting here and
being like, how do we become the guinea pigs and
games how.

Speaker 8 (01:44:51):
Well, you've already got a red light beat out of it.
So yeah, and I'm going to check with the team
that you're using it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
But yeah, it will be a schedule, yeah, sign up sheet,
the whole thing.

Speaker 8 (01:45:05):
Yeah, this will be great, man. And I think we'll
come back and let's say ten weeks after we start,
we'll come back on this podcast and we'll just do
a quick update and yeah, because I think it would
inspire a lot of people because there's so many people
living with chronic ailments and they don't understand why they're
staying chronic and nothing really seems and the.

Speaker 5 (01:45:22):
Audience they know that there's this back has been a
prominent piece of way my journey for Yeah, okay, it
really has. The boys were having fun playing this game
called Tea with the in the pool last week, and
my back's feeling a little bit better, but I just
still stand up there and I'm just anything I do
I'm always thinking, I don't want to reaggravate my back.

Speaker 8 (01:45:42):
Yeah no, my my my wife has an L five
best one fusion from Sage does from a from a
really bad car accident around the time that we know.

Speaker 5 (01:45:48):
Yeah, like on my decks it says like my L four,
L five N S I yeah right side yeah, screaming
certain times.

Speaker 3 (01:45:56):
Like L four US L five and S one are.

Speaker 5 (01:46:00):
Yeah yeah, I want to say, just just off the
decks of scan it talks about how my diss in
there kind of like deteriorating. Okay.

Speaker 9 (01:46:07):
Can I tell you the thing that works the best
for me?

Speaker 5 (01:46:09):
Yes? Please?

Speaker 9 (01:46:10):
And I hate it every day for the first thirty
seconds to a minute.

Speaker 5 (01:46:13):
It's cold plunge old plunch.

Speaker 4 (01:46:15):
Every time.

Speaker 10 (01:46:15):
It just makes me feel so much better at least,
And sometimes I do it in the morning and at
night just if I've had a long day on my feet.

Speaker 9 (01:46:23):
But cold plunging of all the things, I think works
the best.

Speaker 10 (01:46:26):
But the red light is great too, And do hydrogen
tablets every morning and the hydrogen bath things process.

Speaker 5 (01:46:31):
I just got to get a just a quality cold
up like I got a barrel, so I'll have to
manually and then I get lazy. I just don't know
that I won't refeel it because I'm not a I
love the feeling you get cold plunging once you get out,
it's just yeah, going maintenance.

Speaker 3 (01:46:47):
Yeah, I just you know, that's another one of those things.

Speaker 7 (01:46:49):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:46:49):
I have a saying that aging is the aggressive pursuit
of comfort. And you know, the more aggressively we pursue comfort,
the faster we age. And you know, like we got
stop telling Grandma not to go outside it is too hot,
and not to go outside it is too cold, just
to lay down to relax, you know, to eat at
the first pang of hunger. That's just destroying all your
natural defense mechanisms. And cold plunging is one of those

(01:47:13):
hormetic stresses. And look, you don't need to spend seven
grand on a cold plunge. You can take toughware containers,
film full of water, put them in your freezer and
the next night you'll have big blocks of ice. If
you have a tub that'll last three days, it'll give
you a cold plunge for three days. Even cold showers.
But immersing yourself in cold water because water is twenty
nine times more thermogenic than air meaning it removes heat
from the body at twenty nine times the rate of air.

(01:47:35):
And most people don't realize all of the safety mechanisms
that trigger the panic mechanisms that trigger in the body.
When you quickly immerse yourself in cold water, you know,
you get a peripheral vaso constriction. But if you actually
mapped the way that that works, it's fascinating to me, Like,
the more I study the human body, the more I
believe in God, because I feel like this didn't happen

(01:47:57):
by accident, you know, So you don't just get a
perferle va constriction. It shuttles blood first to the brain, right,
and then once it shuttles blood to the brain, it
will shuttle it to the heart and then to the
lungs and in that order. And what's fascinating about that.
It's a defense mechanism. So you're like walking across the
ice and you break through the ice and now you're
a nice cold water and you're by yourself. You have

(01:48:17):
no resources, Like, what is the body going to do?

Speaker 5 (01:48:21):
Well?

Speaker 8 (01:48:21):
First of all, constrict the periphery, right, if the brain
shuts off, nothing else matters, So take care of that first.
Then if the brain's going. If the heart shuts off,
nothing else matters. So let's take care of that second.
Once we got the heart stable, now we got to
go to the lungs because if they shut off, nothing
else matters. Once you stabilize those systems, it's a very
slow priority for the rest of the body. And then

(01:48:44):
you activate something called brown fat, which is a very
special type of fat in the body that actually exchanges
a calorie for a measure of heat. So anybody that
says that cold punching doesn't burn fat is it's nonsensical
because you actually are physically taking calories and turning them
into heat. There's a cost to raise your body temperature
that's done by brown fat. But what's really fascinating is
then your liver releases something called cold shock proteins. If

(01:49:07):
you really want to have some fun, just google cold
shock proteins or benefits of cold shock proteins. There's a
lot of research going on right now and these magical
proteins that are trapped in the liver that are dumped
into the bloodstream during when you when you cold plunge.
Some of them, Lind twenty eight A and Lin twenty
eight B are being researched for improving insulin sensitivity and
actually making you more sensitive to insulin, which is a

(01:49:29):
good thing. And then uh, and then you get you
get to release a dope meine and and norbinephrin, And
what do these do? They widen your field division, they
improve your mood. They make you more acute, more sharp,
more focused, more concentrated. So you think about, man, if
I was walking on the ice and I broke through
and I was in cold water, my body's going to
preserve my brain, my heart, my lungs. It's gonna start

(01:49:52):
raising my body temperature. It's going to widen my field
of vision. It's going to make my hearing more cute.
It's going to make me process things faster. Right, You're
processing speed is a lot faster. That's why when you
get out, you're like, shit, I feel amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:50:04):
Right, that was it.

Speaker 8 (01:50:05):
That was all the defense mechanism of your body trying
to save your life. Yeah, and that's why you know
we overdo it with cold punging too. I mean, look,
three minutes minimum, six minutes maximum forty eight to fifty
two degrees fahrenheit. There's no research that says colder is
better longer is better. We don't want to become cold adaptive.
We just want to cold shock the body, right, take

(01:50:26):
advantage of that cold shock and get on with your day.
But I call it my drug of choice, Like nothing
makes you feel better for longer.

Speaker 4 (01:50:32):
Have you know? Is there any biological difference between men
and women are using the cold tub?

Speaker 8 (01:50:36):
Yes, I mean women need to be some a little
bit more cautious, especially given their time of the month.
And so a cold pune is really anything fifty eight
degrees or less, right, so women can get in slightly
warmer water. Fifty eight degrees fahrenheit is still cold enough
to give you all of the benefits of It becomes
like a man contest. It's always you go, you know,
like you did forty eight, Yeah, thirty seven, Yeah, I'm

(01:51:00):
gonna get there is nitrogen next week.

Speaker 4 (01:51:02):
Something about a winter time though, when you have to
break the ice in a cold tub and sitting it,
you definitely feel like a viking from.

Speaker 3 (01:51:08):
Yeah, yeah, you definitely do, definitely feel you definitely do.

Speaker 8 (01:51:11):
But a lot of the things that that that apply
to men don't directly apply to women, you know, like
some of the worst endigrin disasters I've ever had to
repair are in young menstruating women that that eat in
a very narrow feeding window. Like husbands and wives will say, well,
it's started internet and fasting together. And a husband's killing it, right.
I mean he's he's putting on muscle, and he's exercised,
he's sleeping like a bear, he's got all the energy
in the world, and and and and the woman's just

(01:51:33):
a disaster because she's narrowed her feeding window. And so,
if you're a woman, you're listening to this podcast interview,
all six of you, well, well seven because my wife
said yeah, and my daughter eight. Okay, so the eight
of you closer double digits. What do you guys like
ninety nine to one up there?

Speaker 3 (01:51:54):
Well, I think we're in ninety ninety.

Speaker 5 (01:51:58):
No, we're not.

Speaker 4 (01:52:01):
Toxic masculinely on this podcast.

Speaker 8 (01:52:02):
Yeah, I understand completely anyway, but we'll throw that, well,
we'll throw the eight percent of women a bone. Just
just get a blood test if you if your three
month averaging your blood sugar is very low. In other words,
if it's below five point three or less, you're not
a candidate for intermittent fasting.

Speaker 3 (01:52:20):
Men, we do really well with it.

Speaker 8 (01:52:22):
We only have one major hormone, testosterone. They have multiple hormones.
They're different people throughout the time of the month.

Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
So I would that science science, purely science personal.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
I can back that up.

Speaker 4 (01:52:36):
What were you saying? I love you?

Speaker 8 (01:52:42):
So yeah, I mean, I just don't think it's a
one size fit all. So women can do cold punges
of fifty eight degrees.

Speaker 4 (01:52:47):
What's your what's your thought on having three, like three meals,
like real, full, nutritious meals as opposed to snacking throughout
the day.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
I think that's great.

Speaker 8 (01:52:54):
I mean, if you look at the Longevity Diet Volter
Longos research, who's probably the top fasting, intermittent fasting, and
fast mimicking researcher in the world at USC, you will
find that the big data doesn't support time restricted eating.

(01:53:16):
It does support fasting, but not consistent fasting because we
become adaptive. So a twelve hour feeding window is what
he published in the in the Longevity Diet. He has
an enormous body of research too to support that. And
then once in a while doing what's called fast mimicking,

(01:53:37):
where you actually reduced your caloric intake for a day
or for several days and then you go back to
eating normal calories.

Speaker 3 (01:53:44):
But twelve on twelve off.

Speaker 8 (01:53:46):
Is something that people seem that they to be consistent
with over a long duration. I'm a huge fan of
intermittent fasting for people that have blood your control issues. Again,
it's it's it's like everything. It's not a one size
fits all. So if you went and did a blood panel,
you look at three things. You look at your glucose,
you want that to be blow ninety fasted. You look

(01:54:07):
at your hemoglobin a one c so three month average
of your blood sugar, you want that to be five
point three or better. And you want your insulin to
really be in the single digits right, and the blood
test allows your insulin to get to about twenty five.
So people think, well, I'm still normal, but high insulin
means you're not. You're secreting a lot of insulin to

(01:54:28):
lower your blood share. Those people are perfect on intermittent fasting,
But twelve hours on and twelve hours off is perfect
for the vast majority of the population. You can live
a very very long time feeding yourself in a twelve
hour window and allowing twelve giving your body a twelve

(01:54:48):
hour break, and that's easy to do. That's eight in
the morning till eight at night. And I was fascinated
when I really started reading the research on it, because
most people eat from like six thirty or seven in
the morning until eleven thirty at night.

Speaker 3 (01:54:59):
We just graze all day.

Speaker 8 (01:55:01):
We're just constantly we're constantly grazing. And so if you
actually just locked in a twelve hour window, you know,
eight in the morning, eight at night, six in the
morning till six at night, ten, then morning until ten
at night, and you stayed consistent in that window, and
you shifted that window when you moved around time zones,
game changer for the majority of people.

Speaker 3 (01:55:20):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:21):
Yeah, what kind of profetitive things? Will and I both
have children, both have girls. What are some proactive things
we can do for our children so that when they
get to ours they don't have these immune diseases? These
these are the things that seem to pop up that
people call genetic.

Speaker 8 (01:55:35):
I'm going to give you the number one thing that
you can do for your kids. And this is a
dietary change. And sadly it's because of the food supply here.
You wouldn't have to do this if you were in Canada.
You wouldn't have to do it if you were in Europe.
But you have to militantly get the folic acid out
of their diet. So you have to get them off
of fortified or enriched foods.

Speaker 3 (01:55:58):
And what does that mean? The United States?

Speaker 8 (01:56:00):
We are required by law we spray all of our grains,
all cereals, breads, pastas, and grains of any kind. We
spray them with the chemical fulic acid. We've been told
that fullic acid is a naturally occurring compound.

Speaker 3 (01:56:13):
It's not.

Speaker 8 (01:56:14):
You cannot find folic acid anywhere on the surface of
the Earth. It does not exist in nature. Okay, fold
late exists in nature. We make a chemical in a
laboratory called folic acid. In nineteen ninety three, the chemical
industry convinced the US government to spray this on our
entire grain supply. So all bread, all pasta, all flour,
and grains of any kind are sprayed with folic acid.

(01:56:35):
We don't call it sprayed with fullic acid. We call
it fortified or enriched. So fortified or enriched foods are
sprayed with folic acid.

Speaker 3 (01:56:44):
Water.

Speaker 8 (01:56:44):
Fortified or enriched foods well, pop tarts, cereals, breads, bagels,
all the things that we feed our kids. So if
you just made the simple shift of either choosing organic
or non fortified, non enriched versions of those foods, would
have a completely different child in the house. Because about

(01:57:04):
half of the population can't process this compound at all.
We have a gene mutation called MTHFR. It's affectionately called
the motherfucker gene. About half the population has it. It's
called MTHFR. It means we can't process fullic acid, which
wouldn't be a big deal until you realize that fullic
acid is the most prevalent nutrient in the human diet.

(01:57:26):
So if you switch to non fortified, non enriched foods,
you would you would plummet the incidence of add adhd OCD,
manic depression, bipolar, learning disabilities, poor tension span, poor ability
to follow directions, what we call impulse control. All of
these issues that you have in kids, very often are

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because this compound is coming into their body and they
can't process it. So once you learn to get around
that system and you learn what food it doesn't mean
you can't eat bread, doesn't mean you can't eat pasta,
it doesn't mean you can't eat grains.

Speaker 3 (01:57:58):
You just need to eat the non.

Speaker 8 (01:57:59):
Fortified versions of those. You know, everybody that's traveled to
Europe or Italy and it lives in the US has
had the experience where they go.

Speaker 3 (01:58:07):
To Italy and they're like, dude, I eat pasta light.
My life depends on it.

Speaker 8 (01:58:10):
I feel great, Dude. I'm walking down the street in France.
I'm eating French bag that's like, you know, like tic
TACs and yeah, and I'm not bloated, I'm not gassy,
I'm not constipated. It doesn't make me want to crash
because bread's made the way bread's supposed to be made
over there. Same with pastas and cereals and grains. Here

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we add seed oils and we add full of acid
to those and it just destroys our guy.

Speaker 3 (01:58:36):
So so, but I know we all did nothing, dude.

Speaker 8 (01:58:42):
I remember lining up the marshmallows in the like because
my mom would get really pissed off because I would
actually take the spoon, I would pick out all the marshmallows,
would leave the cereal floating in there.

Speaker 4 (01:58:51):
Yeah, She's like, you have to hate the all nutritious
this marshmallow.

Speaker 3 (01:58:57):
You see this little starfish.

Speaker 4 (01:59:00):
I was a big fruity pebbles guy, and.

Speaker 3 (01:59:03):
I love them.

Speaker 5 (01:59:04):
God, I loved I was honey Comb, golden Smacks. I
was a big.

Speaker 8 (01:59:12):
Who's the tripped, but who's the pirate with? I was
the guy that captain crunch. Ye oh dude, that was
so good. I can't even look.

Speaker 5 (01:59:24):
At it now.

Speaker 3 (01:59:25):
But marshmallows are some rules that you break.

Speaker 5 (01:59:32):
I mean, uh, people will be surprised.

Speaker 3 (01:59:34):
Oh yeah, I mean I won't answer as your family.

Speaker 8 (01:59:40):
No, I break rules on sugar, you know, like, uh,
you know, I'm not the I'm not the one that
shows up to my five year old niece's birthday party.

Speaker 3 (01:59:47):
Is like, I'm not gonna eat that cake.

Speaker 5 (01:59:49):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:59:50):
You know I try to avoid forever chemicals, but you
know I would rather actually eat sugar because my body
can process that. I don't drink. I haven't put the
I haven't put the label on myself that I'm never
going to drink again.

Speaker 3 (02:00:01):
And we had a shot at tequila a few weeks ago.

Speaker 8 (02:00:06):
So I would say, once in a while I break
it for alcohol, usually tequila. Once in a while, I'll
break it, uh for sugar, you know.

Speaker 5 (02:00:13):
I mean what kind of sugar were talking here?

Speaker 3 (02:00:17):
Dark chocolate oh yeah, no, blizzard. I won'n't do that.

Speaker 5 (02:00:21):
You won't.

Speaker 3 (02:00:24):
Heartbreaking?

Speaker 8 (02:00:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's heartbreaking. Yeah, don't go for the blizzard. Yeah,
that's that'll put you in a coma. Ice cream, yeah,
ice cream. I mean you just look for the There's
this place called Southwest Ranches down the road from US
and they actually do grass fed grass finish blizzards, grass
fed grass finish, you know, meats, raw dairy. So you

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can actually take the stuff that you like to eat.
And I have this thing called lateral shifts where I'll
take anything that you like to eat and I'll just
shift it to something more nutritious. You won't even notice, Like,
you know, I used to love nachos. Now I take
Massa chip which are non GMO corn de fried and
beef tallow with with sea salt, right, Massa chips which
are tortilla chips. And then I'll and then I'll take

(02:01:08):
grass for grass finished beef or organ meats and spread
that on the top, you know, like the ground beef.
And then I'll take raw goat cheese shredded on the
top of that, slice up some avocados, stick that on
the top. Dude, it's just it's a plate of nachos,
and if you ate that nacho next to your other nachos,
you wouldn't taste the difference. But the nutritional profiles massively.

Speaker 4 (02:01:28):
It's hard for beat that fake cheese though that you
get the ballpark.

Speaker 3 (02:01:32):
Yeah, that's what is it, bel Veda or whatever. It's
hard to beat that.

Speaker 8 (02:01:37):
Anytime cheese comes out of a pressurized can come doub
but you're still.

Speaker 3 (02:01:42):
The little little cans.

Speaker 4 (02:01:44):
Squez. Also, are you talking about your no?

Speaker 3 (02:01:50):
I was like, Wow, you're really gone.

Speaker 5 (02:01:52):
Actually I wanted to ask is a daughter? Like? What
what pisces are off? Go ahead about what is their daughter?

Speaker 3 (02:02:01):
What's a pet? People about your father?

Speaker 5 (02:02:02):
Pet? People bout your dad something?

Speaker 3 (02:02:04):
I will say.

Speaker 11 (02:02:05):
He'll get on the phone and if you leave any
sort of food anywhere, it's gone.

Speaker 3 (02:02:09):
Oh yeah, I do. I do unconsciously eat on the phone,
can eat just about anything of mine. I'll make a
plate of food.

Speaker 9 (02:02:16):
I'll go to my room, go to the bathroom, get
a glass of water.

Speaker 5 (02:02:18):
I'll come back.

Speaker 11 (02:02:18):
And it's completely funny.

Speaker 8 (02:02:20):
If I'm on an intense phone call like and pacing around,
I'll smash it so.

Speaker 3 (02:02:26):
Much it's crazy.

Speaker 11 (02:02:29):
Ready for you, She did have that in the whole,
Like I'll get like shitty food every once in a while,
like stuff that's bad for you, and I'll find it
and I'll still eat it.

Speaker 3 (02:02:44):
Unconscious. Eating you more intense than phone call though last time,
Like do you ever.

Speaker 5 (02:02:50):
Get like if you get like bad food, or say
you get fast food or something, are you ever trying
to be sneaky about it? Like I don't want my
dad to see it.

Speaker 3 (02:02:57):
I don't. I don't eat her fast food.

Speaker 11 (02:02:59):
It's like occasionally I had my Okay, so we did
a cross country road trip to Colorado.

Speaker 9 (02:03:03):
We took our home and we drove it out to
our house in Colorado.

Speaker 11 (02:03:05):
And I had never had a big Mac before, so
I was like, I'm gonna try it, and I convinced
her out.

Speaker 10 (02:03:09):
And know how I did it.

Speaker 3 (02:03:10):
I convinced I was not on this trip for the record.

Speaker 11 (02:03:12):
There it was just us, but I had a big
Mac and I have to sit in the same position
for like forty five minutes because if I.

Speaker 9 (02:03:18):
Moved, I felt like I was going to explode.

Speaker 2 (02:03:20):
Like it was the most.

Speaker 11 (02:03:23):
Because it's gone to the point where like we've eaten
so healthy that like eating shitty food will make you like,
it'll make you like a hangover, like you look up
in the morning, you'll feel terrible, like I can't eat.

Speaker 9 (02:03:31):
Anything like that.

Speaker 3 (02:03:32):
The whole family.

Speaker 11 (02:03:32):
It's really good, Like yeah, I want it, and like
it's like the brownie bits and the ice cream, like
the Ben and Jerry's. He'll go through and he'll dig
out the brownies, He'll dig out the cookie.

Speaker 3 (02:03:42):
Oh no, I want to eat to ice cream.

Speaker 8 (02:03:44):
But I'll try to find the little piece of dark
chocolate and isolate the one piece of dark chocolate because
I know, I'm like the surrounding environment is not good,
but I will take them fore and surgically removed, surgically
said dark chocolate as a fact.

Speaker 9 (02:03:58):
Do you want to tell them about your experience in
snagging my dad's cookies?

Speaker 3 (02:04:05):
Oh that's.

Speaker 1 (02:04:08):
Special.

Speaker 3 (02:04:09):
We could, we can go for it.

Speaker 8 (02:04:11):
Yeah, we were in we were in Colorado a few
years ago, and so my son went to a dispensary
and and got these gummies and we were going to
do this big, long hike six miles up to this
lake called Lamfair Lake.

Speaker 3 (02:04:23):
And he's like that you got to take.

Speaker 8 (02:04:24):
One of these gummy's gonna help them the hike. I like,
I see no connection between that gummy and my.

Speaker 3 (02:04:29):
Ability to performing.

Speaker 8 (02:04:32):
And I said, you know, but for a sun bonding moment,
hit me with one of those gummies. So I take one,
and I think the whole thing about like gummies is
like they don't they don't hit.

Speaker 3 (02:04:42):
You right away.

Speaker 8 (02:04:43):
And I do know drugs none for the record, and
you can verify zero except for this time. So it's like,
I'm like, forty minutes in, I'm like, I don't feel
a damn thing. So I was like, we're walking out
the door, so I took another.

Speaker 5 (02:04:56):
One is the number, dude, So so hit me, give me.

Speaker 3 (02:05:05):
It gets actually worse. So we're going.

Speaker 8 (02:05:08):
So we're the whole family's in the car and we're
going to the spot at Lampfield to hike, and she's like,
let's stop by.

Speaker 3 (02:05:14):
My dad's house. I forget we were picking up.

Speaker 8 (02:05:16):
We go into our dad's cabin and he's got these
chocolate squares laid out on the counter, right, and I
didn't realize that these were these are also.

Speaker 3 (02:05:24):
Confused th HC. I haven't never had well now I have.

Speaker 8 (02:05:32):
And so I saw the chocolate square and I smashed
the chocolate square and I get back in the car.
So now I'm two gummies deep in a chocolate square,
and dude, we're going down that We're going down the highway,
and I start to get flush, like my whole body
gets flushed. I feel this rush coming up my my,
my neck, and then I get overwhelmingly sleepy, and I
start trying to convince everybody in the car to go

(02:05:53):
back home and take a nap. And so he just like,
the fuck is wrong with You're like you're You're like,
mister energizer, bun like you wanted to go on this hike.
I got the whole family in the car. I'm like, yeah,
I don't want if we just banging, you turn and
just take a nap. And by the time we got there,
I couldn't feel my face. I could my hands felt
like they were blown up like balloons. And and I

(02:06:16):
started playing it back in my mind. I'm like, maybe
it was the two gummies. I didn't even know that
her dad's chocolate had the what did it have?

Speaker 5 (02:06:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:06:23):
Then you left us, and he just did it as
fast as possible finish the hike.

Speaker 4 (02:06:28):
Left us.

Speaker 3 (02:06:29):
Then the paranoia hit.

Speaker 8 (02:06:30):
No water, I had all the supplies in a backpack,
and I got paranoid that I wasn't going to make
it to the lake in times. So I took off,
running up the mountain, left the family, I left down nobody,
so I got off. I stripped all my clothes off.
I jumped in the lake and I'm swimming around this
like forty five degree lake and I can hear her

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screaming f bombs coming up the mountain.

Speaker 3 (02:06:55):
I'm like, what's the matter, mabe, water?

Speaker 8 (02:07:00):
It is beautiful, so smile No, But I felt like
a bear was chasing you know, you're like running and
you can kind of feel something it's like about to
grab you. I wouldn't even look behind me because I
was like, it's almost got my back, Paul just got
your You're you're in the basement. So I sprinted on
this everything's chasing you. I sprinted up. So that was

(02:07:21):
the one and only time that I did that. I
was like, man, I don't need to do that.

Speaker 5 (02:07:24):
When did you know when did you end up learning
about her dad's cookies?

Speaker 4 (02:07:27):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:07:27):
Like weeks later.

Speaker 10 (02:07:29):
Yeah, the dad randomly like called him out on it,
and he's like, yeah, how did it feel when you
when you snagged one of my cookies and Carrie was like.

Speaker 3 (02:07:35):
Oh my god, all went off.

Speaker 5 (02:07:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:07:37):
He's like yeah, He's like, dude, those were you were
supposed to take a quarter of that. He's like, you
were supposed to break that into courts. I'm like, I
wasn't supposed to dudge it at all.

Speaker 4 (02:07:45):
Yeah, that's the only time you've ever had marijuana.

Speaker 8 (02:07:48):
That's yeah, that's well college. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was
like a twenty five years ago. It was like a
twenty five thirty year.

Speaker 3 (02:07:55):
Gap, and then that time all of a sudden, all
at once, and it hit me.

Speaker 5 (02:07:59):
Got to get to the lake.

Speaker 3 (02:08:00):
Yes, that was the only thing I feel that I
got to get to the lake. I gotta get to
the lake.

Speaker 8 (02:08:04):
And I was like, something is something that is like
about to grab me? And I had I don't get
I've never had anxiety or paranoid had anxiety. I was
paranoid though something was chasing me up the mountain. I
was completely by myself and I know.

Speaker 3 (02:08:19):
Exactly. Yeah, I got to the lake people.

Speaker 8 (02:08:23):
Underwear and jumped in the lake and then I started
to feel normal. But dude, she was you were you
were quite upset at that time, quite pissed off.

Speaker 4 (02:08:32):
Yeah, and it's like, yeah, you're paranoid and you have anxiety,
and then your wife's mad at you, but you can't
really connect the dots while she's mad at you. Yeah,
so that paranoid anxiety is a little bit higher. I
was like, dude, basically, hey, I wanted to take.

Speaker 8 (02:08:45):
Attention right now, like I'm I'm in the middle of
a lake, so Bear doesn't get me now, I'm just
now I'm thinking Bear's actually swim So now I'm.

Speaker 3 (02:08:52):
Paranoid in the middle of a lake.

Speaker 5 (02:08:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:08:54):
So yeah, that was that was it. That was a
tough one. That was a tough one. Can we cut there, Michael.

Speaker 4 (02:09:02):
As a family, like, when did you truly buy into
basically becoming a superhuman of all of all these things?
And was there a conversation that took place like, Hey,
this is how we're now going to handle our entire lives.

Speaker 3 (02:09:15):
Because you were saying you're life insurance, right, yeah, I
was life insurance.

Speaker 7 (02:09:18):
I was.

Speaker 8 (02:09:18):
I was a mortality expert. So we were researching, you know,
ways to predict mortality to the month. And I get
a lot of flak for that, but it's truly some
of the most accurate scigns in the.

Speaker 5 (02:09:30):
World because Dana will do his stuff in a bit.

Speaker 3 (02:09:32):
I was going to die ten four years.

Speaker 8 (02:09:35):
Yeah, you know, Dana was really interesting because Dana had
no interest. The only thing Dana wanted to meet with
me for was for me to tell him how many
more years he had left on earth.

Speaker 1 (02:09:46):
That was it.

Speaker 8 (02:09:46):
He's like, I'm a sick fuck. I was like, I
don't do that anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:09:49):
That's what I used to do.

Speaker 8 (02:09:49):
He's like, I'm literally is the exact works. He goes,
I'm a sick fuck. I want to know exactly how
long I have left on Earth.

Speaker 3 (02:09:54):
Like all right, well I need this blood test, this
gene test, and and so I did it.

Speaker 8 (02:10:00):
And when I got we were sleep one night and
at one o'clock in the morning, the lab calls us
Lab Corp.

Speaker 3 (02:10:07):
So my name was on the call sheet for the
lab for our clinic.

Speaker 8 (02:10:12):
So they run the blood work through the night. If
they find a life threatening alert, they call the person
on the account. So it's one o'clock in the morning,
I see Lab Corp Labcorp. So I answer it and
they were like, hey, we have a life threatening alert
on a client. And I was like, by the way,
Dane has put all this in the public domain. So
and I was like, Okay, what's the last name of
the client? And they were like White. And I was
like Dana White, Yeah, Dana White. And I was like, whoa,

(02:10:37):
what's the alert? And it was like a triglyceride alert.
His blood fat was so high his triglyrides were eight hundred, which,
if you know anything about blood work, I mean, having
fasted triglycerides at eight hundred is life threatening. I mean
that's you basically have a higher percentage of fat in
your blood than blood. You know, his blood was solid
at room temperature. So I got off the phone with

(02:10:58):
lab Corp. And I booked my flight to Vegas, leaving
at six point fifty in the morning. I was in Miami,
so I would be in Vegas by nine o'clock in
the morning. I was supposed to meet with Dana on
a phone call at ten am. We were just going
to do a phone call, and then I landed in
Vegas at nine. His assistant calls me Nicole and is like, hey,
you know, we're Dana. We're going to do this call
with Dana at ten o'clock. And I'm like, oh no,

(02:11:19):
I'm in Vegas and she was like, Oh, no, that
wasn't necessary. We can just do it by phone.

Speaker 3 (02:11:23):
I go, oh, no, no, we need to meet.

Speaker 8 (02:11:26):
And she goes, oh, is there something serious? And I
was like, yeah, it's pretty serious. And she's like, is
there anything I can tell Dana? And I was like,
you know, sadly, I can't tell you unless Dana gives
me permission to tell you. But I need to see
Dana at ten o'clock in the morning. And then and
so Dana comes into the office and he's like, dude,
what's up. And instead of going through his blood work,

(02:11:48):
I just I didn't talk to him about a single
level in his blood. I just described exactly what it
was like to be inside of his body twenty four
hours a day. And it freaked him out to such
a level that he said, I'll do whatever you say
for ten weeks, because I said, I can see that
you wake up sore and achy in the morning, like
you had to workout the night before when you haven't.

Speaker 3 (02:12:10):
And I bet it really bothers you when you get.

Speaker 8 (02:12:12):
Out of bed first thing in the morning and soles
your feet and your ankles are so tender that you
can barely walk to the bathroom, take your first piss,
I said, Dane, I can see that a few nights
a week you're you're waking up so hypoxic. I wouldn't
be surprised if you're vomiting at night.

Speaker 3 (02:12:27):
And he was like, wow, dude, who told you that?

Speaker 8 (02:12:31):
And then I said, uh, you know it's uh, I
bet one of the things that bothers you most is
that it's it's painful for you to bend down and
tie your own shoes. And dude, he took an open
Have you ever been in his office, He has that
big conference table when you walk into the left hand side.
He took an open palm and slammed it down on
the on the table and jumped up.

Speaker 3 (02:12:52):
He goes, who the fuck told you that? He's like,
i've't even told my wife that. How do you know
that it is painful for me to tie my shoes?
And I'm like, dude, you try this just so high.
It's called claudication.

Speaker 8 (02:13:01):
You're you're when you bend down and put pressure into
your legs, all that fats plug in the end of
your arteries. It's irritating the nerves. It feels like the
skin's going to peel off your legs. He's like, nobody,
I haven't told anybody that, And so I just described
what it was like to be inside of his body.
I didn't say, oh, your sea react to protein is this?
And your hemoglove and a one sea is that, because

(02:13:22):
you'll just lose them. And I said, look, the good
news is if I can see the symptom in your labs,
we can fix it.

Speaker 3 (02:13:30):
And he was like, how long is it going to take?
Like ten weeks and dud, six weeks in he calls
me freaking out. He's like, I feel fucking amazing, dude.
My legs don't hurt anymore. I slept the first night
without a sea pat machine.

Speaker 8 (02:13:42):
I remember the first time he called me and he
was like, dude, something's wrong Gary, And I'm like, what's up?
He said, the last three days, four days, I'm going
into the gym. He's like, every time I step on
the treadmill or pick up a weight, I immediately get lightheaded.
And I was like, oh my god, dude, that's a
great sign. And he' said what are you talking about?
And I said, you know, you're on blood pressure medication,
so when your blood pressure is high, your blood pressure

(02:14:03):
will your medication will make you normal. When your blood
pressure is normal, your medication will make you low. It'll
make you hypo systolic, it will make you lightheaded. So
this is this is the point where I need to
get get with the doctors and start tight trading you
off of your your blood pressure medication. Because I'm not
a doctor, I'm not licensed practice medicine. So I brought
I brought in our doc and she put him on

(02:14:24):
a titration protocol to start tight trading down on his meds.
And so as his blood pressure began to drop, we
started lowering his medication eventually down to zero. His blood
pressure to this day is still normal. He was on
three BP meds.

Speaker 3 (02:14:37):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:14:38):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:14:39):
We first medow and he was a seapap and yeah,
we live in February of twenty two, yes, in Arizona.
And he was like, you were the main topic of conversation. Really,
you're showing a shirtless picks he was showing.

Speaker 5 (02:14:50):
Yeah, it was you.

Speaker 4 (02:14:52):
It was you and Harley Davidson's.

Speaker 3 (02:14:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:14:55):
That was basically the first conversation we ever had with
Dana is all that how jacked up he was about
living life.

Speaker 3 (02:15:02):
All of a sudden. That's awesome.

Speaker 7 (02:15:03):
It is.

Speaker 3 (02:15:03):
It's incredible.

Speaker 1 (02:15:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:15:05):
I mean, if you have those kind of results with
Dana jelly Roll, how much of a turnaround. It's been
incredible to see.

Speaker 3 (02:15:13):
Yeah, that was amazing.

Speaker 4 (02:15:14):
It's like he's almost like watching him at SummerSlam, being
able to even do some of the things that you
knew like a year ago he wouldn't even be able
to accomplish. He was.

Speaker 8 (02:15:25):
He sent me, Actually you found it. My daughter found it.

Speaker 4 (02:15:30):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:15:30):
I don't know I should say this on podcasts, but
I actually didn't know who he was when he texted me.

Speaker 8 (02:15:35):
And I mean I knew his music, but I didn't
connect it to Jelly I knew, God, I'd need a favor.
I mean, I knew his music. I'm a big fan
of country music. I was actually a fan of his music.
I didn't connect him to this guy. And I got
a d M one day from him and he said,
do you work with fat people? And so and so

(02:15:56):
she comes in and she's like, oh my god, jelly Roll,
you know sent you.

Speaker 3 (02:16:00):
I'm like, who's jelly Roll? And she's like, he's like
the biggest country music sensation right now. And she started
playing the songs. I'm like, oh, I know that song.
I know that song. So we went out.

Speaker 8 (02:16:10):
We flew out and met him in LA and we
flew on his jet to Vegas. So I had him
do some blood work, had him do the gene testing.
We got on the plane with him in LA and
we just flew private to Vegas and I did the
whole the lab review for him on the plane, and
I said the same thing to him that I said

(02:16:30):
to Dana, you know, in ten weeks, you're just not
going to recognize yourself. And to his credit, he did
exactly everything I said to a tee. For that first
ten weeks. He started cold plunging. We made him get
in ten thousand steps a day. He actually participated in
my ten thousand step challenge. He set a goal for
himself to run a five k. Now, he's worked with

(02:16:51):
other people like Brigham Bueller and you know, other folks
other than myself that are partially responsible for this. But
when we started with him, I'll never forget that flight,
because remember he started. It was actually very sad because
I could see this guy's heart. I'm like, he's a

(02:17:13):
good human, like he is just his value system, the
love that he has for the music, how grateful he
is for the opportunity, you know, given his past and
you know, his record and incarceration and everything. Like he's
one of the most grateful, humble human beings I've ever met.
But he could barely fit in this private airplane seat

(02:17:35):
that we were in, and he started talking to us
describing what it was like to go through a day
in the life of just being him and his weight.
And I'd never had somebody that weighed five hundred pounds
ever described to me what it was like to be
trapped in a five hundred pound body. And like he
would say, I have to sleep on my side and
wedge myself in with pillows because if I roll on

(02:17:57):
my back at night, I'll suffocate, you know, because you
got two hundred and fifty pounds just laying on your lungs.
And he was like, you know, I never turned the
radio down in the car because when I pull up
to a stoplight and I and I stop at a
stop light, I can hear myself wheezing. So I'll just
turn the radio up to bury the sound of my

(02:18:19):
own breath wheezing, and just the struggle watching him just
get in and out of an airplane and up and
down from a seat, and like he went through the
struggle of what it was like. And he said every
morning that he would wake up, he said, as soon
as he would wake up, he would thank God that
he didn't die that night, because he he felt like
he was going to die every night he went to sleep.

(02:18:41):
And just listening to him describe that forty five minutes
to get out of bed and he was he was
broken from that standpoint, like he is in a place
he's like, I'm ready to commit to changing this because
God's given me this opportunity to have my music serve
the world, and I feel like I'm going to die.

Speaker 3 (02:19:04):
So he was one of the I w We've.

Speaker 8 (02:19:06):
Worked with a lot of a lot of folks, but
you know, he is one of the most genuine human beings.
And to see that transition right there is just is
just amazing. Man, no no better human being for that
day with it too. That's probably added twenty six or
twenty eight years to his life too. Just you know,
you think about every pound of body fat that you

(02:19:28):
have adds six extra miles of blood vessel to your body.
Ten pounds of fat is sixty miles of blood vessel.
One hundred pounds is six hundred miles. So when you're
two hundred and fifty or three hundred pounds overweight, the
unnecessary distance that your heart has to pump blood to

(02:19:48):
service tissue that is not useful to you is amazing.
By getting all of that back now, I mean, it's incredible,
incredible for him.

Speaker 3 (02:19:59):
What and the dude's like a cold punge maniac. He
did the five k, He walked his first five k.
Is awesome.

Speaker 4 (02:20:05):
It'd be awesome when he gets his goal to have
you and him on together talk about the journey.

Speaker 8 (02:20:09):
Yeah, we've we've missed a few times. We've set it
up for a couple of concerts that he was going
to do. I actually did the Great World Race with
my son. It was like seven marathons, seven continents in
seven days. And I and I got back from that
and I was so broken.

Speaker 3 (02:20:27):
I was so broken.

Speaker 8 (02:20:29):
And I got a really bad stomach virus from like
his doune bul or something I forget either is Dunbull cartagena.

Speaker 3 (02:20:37):
I picked up a really really bad summing virus.

Speaker 8 (02:20:39):
So I was supposed to do the pod with Jelly
at his conference and his concert and had to cancel,
but we're gonna do it again.

Speaker 3 (02:20:48):
I can't wait for him to tell that story again. Oh,
I can't wait.

Speaker 5 (02:20:51):
One I'm looking at like circling back on the axis, like,
if longevity becomes widely available, which I feel like it's
starting to make to be widely available, how do we
get it to being for everyone versus just the privilege
and for the wealthy.

Speaker 8 (02:21:07):
Well, first of all, like I said, when when the
powers to be Health and Human Services NIHCDC, FDA, when
they realize that it is less expensive to prevent chronic
disease than it is to treat it. When it becomes
a when it becomes a fiscal advantage to be in

(02:21:28):
service to humanity and not in service to the corporations
that fund their campaigns, You're going to see this the
lifestyle medicine shift to the masses.

Speaker 5 (02:21:43):
You feel like it's going to be. You feel like
it's going to be more of like dropping showing them
the expense and cost of it being down, but also
on the other side, the profitability of people being more.
Imagine if health your life, I feel like if you
I can hear it being like you drop the expenses down,
but I wonder the profits that it would completely cut

(02:22:03):
out because people are now healthy and not needing to
go to the doctor because they're working with you know,
they're working with places that only have you know, several
hundred clients, are a couple hundred clients. Probably like yourself,
you probably work with like a handful of people, and
then you probably have to scale a little bit or
work with other doctors. Compared to when you're going into
a regular hospital or a regular doctor. They're working with

(02:22:24):
thousands of clients. So you're only going to get that
fifteen minute attention seven. I feel like you'll cut the expenses.
But it's like I wonder the investor or the capitalism
mind sees, It's like, well, how is this going to
cut you know, if people aren't sick anymore than, how
are we going to how are we going to continue
to make money?

Speaker 8 (02:22:40):
Well, they can continue to make money. But you know
what's really interesting is you know the way that a
lot of other socialized healthcare systems work is they're incentivized
to keep the population healthy because it's too expensive for
them to be sick. We have the polar opposite here.
We have a sick care system because we have a
sick profit system, you know, so the majority of the
money is in the medicine, right. So for example, if

(02:23:02):
I can get you to subscribe to the fact that
you have a genetically inherited disease, I can get you
subscribed to a lifetime of medication. And so we develop
a lot of these fallacies, like you know, if there's
something in medicine called idiopathic, okay, idiopathic means of unknown origin,
meaning we have no idea what's causing this. Eighty five

(02:23:23):
percent of all high blood pressure is idiopathic. It's of
unknown origin. We don't know what's causing it.

Speaker 1 (02:23:29):
You know what we do.

Speaker 8 (02:23:30):
We medicate the heart anyway for crime. We can't prove
that it's committing There is zero causal link between LDL
cholesterol and cardiovasco disease. LDOL cholesterol on its own is
not a marker for cardiovasco disease, yet we use it
to put sixty five percent of the population on statin medication.

(02:23:53):
So we've we've developed a lot of these fallacies that say, okay, well,
if I can't tell you why you have highlood pressure,
let's look at your family history.

Speaker 3 (02:24:02):
Oh, look at this.

Speaker 8 (02:24:02):
Your father's brother had high blood pressure and your mom's
brother had high blood pressure. You have genetically inherited hyghpertension.
You have familial hypertension. If you took it a step
further and looked your doctor in the eye and said, okay, well,
what gene did I inherit from my uncle that gave
me this condition? Their face would go blank, right, because
that gene doesn't exist. And if that gene doesn't exist,

(02:24:26):
that means that that condition does not exist. We don't
pass disease very rarely from generation to generation. We pass
deficiency from generation to generation. We have a pandemic of nutrient, vitamin,
and mineral deficiencies in this country. We do not have
a pandemic of chronic disease. If you actually looked at

(02:24:47):
a soil lineage study done in nineteen forty five versus
one done in twenty twenty three, you would see that
the soil is just so depleted of nutrients, raw materials, minerals, right,
and that now you know, leave us spinach then is
not like a leaf of spinach now. And so as
we shift to actually better agricultural practices, you're going to

(02:25:07):
see this trickle into the masses as we realize that
physical education, things like sleep, things like connection, things like
sense of purpose, community, whole food diets. You're going to
see that this actually, and I believe that Maha is
going to lead this charge. You're going to see that
this shift becomes the most profitable thing for our country,

(02:25:29):
and eventually it will be unpopular for politicians to be
on the other side of this movement. You know, like
if you look at some of the big movements of
our time, like the Me Too movement for example, that
snowball started rolling downhill.

Speaker 3 (02:25:42):
And it got bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.

Speaker 8 (02:25:45):
So for you to be against that movement you had
to be almost pro domestic violence. Well it means to
be against the Maha movement. You're eventually going to have
to be pro childhood cancer, pro morbid obesity, pro chronic disease.
I mean, the light is being ship on the corruption
in our food supply, the corruption in our nutritional research,

(02:26:05):
and eventually it will be more profitable for these companies
to conform, which is a good thing. Then it will
be for them to resist it. And so you know,
I get attacked in the media for it all the time.
I get called a pseudo scientist.

Speaker 3 (02:26:18):
You know, I'm not a doctor.

Speaker 8 (02:26:19):
I never pretend to be a doctor. I'm very consistent
about saying I'm not a doctor and not licensed to
practice medicine. But they what they call me the other
day a chemophobe.

Speaker 3 (02:26:29):
I kind of like that, you know, you're afraid of chemicals.
On again, I want to get a shirt that says chemophobe.

Speaker 8 (02:26:34):
We should all be chemophobic. But so to answer your question,
you know, and I say this all the time, like
it's it's the secret to longevity. Look at the people
that are living the longest, Like we have data, right,
And you know, if you went to Sardinia, for example,
we're one of the longest life expectancies on Earth, you
wouldn't find You'd find that the highest carbohydrate consumption in

(02:26:55):
the world, longest life expectancy. Then you go to Singapore
one of the highest meat consumptions in the world, but
very long life expectancy. You go to the Mediterranean and
and they very high fatty fish and lots of oils,
very long life expectancy. Then the French are fucking the
whole model up because they're smoking cigarettes and drinking wine
and eating cheese and they're living forever. The continuity between

(02:27:15):
all of that is the absence of processed food.

Speaker 3 (02:27:19):
It's a whole food. Die yea whole food. I see
Marlboro Red.

Speaker 8 (02:27:25):
I actually grew up on a tobacco farm. Believe it
or not, I cut tobaccocast.

Speaker 4 (02:27:30):
I was listening to but I remember here you're talking
about how a labor.

Speaker 3 (02:27:33):
Intensive it is.

Speaker 8 (02:27:34):
It's it is the most intense labor you'll ever do
in your life. If anybody listening to this has ever
cut tobacco, they will tell you I've never had a
job harder than cutting tobacco, because you cut it in August.
I lived in southern Maryland, Upper Marlborough. Yeah, Marlborough Country,
remember the Marlborough Man. Yeah, so so what these guys do, basically,

(02:27:55):
what you do is imagine just a field. See that
little machete. Yeah, yeah, that's it exactly how you cut tobacco.
You push it over and you cut it. So you
walk like that for miles through these fields.

Speaker 4 (02:28:06):
And you watch them.

Speaker 3 (02:28:09):
Dude, you want to talk about low back.

Speaker 8 (02:28:11):
Then you put those then you then you put those
plants on a stick, five or six of them to
a stick and it weighs like sixty pounds, and you
got to climb them up in these barns that are
like five six stories tall. They were not built by
ocean certified engineers either. Like this is like a dude,
it's like two bottles because you you hang them in
these barns. You have these tobacco barns and they're five

(02:28:33):
or six stories high. They got tin roofs, they got
these little slats you open on the side to allow
the tobacco to breathe because the tobacco is green and
it's gummy, you know, and you got to dry it
all out.

Speaker 3 (02:28:44):
And so you hang these.

Speaker 8 (02:28:45):
Sticks at different Yeah, there there is. See those little rafters. Okay,
you climb up in those rafters and you straddle them
like this, and you grab these sticks between your legs
and you pass it to the guy above you and
then he passes it up, and he passes.

Speaker 3 (02:28:58):
It up and your head is against this tin ceiling.
See that, That's exactly what it's like. Oh God, it's
bringing back horrible memories. Fucking horrible. My parents were abusive.
It's Captain John Braco, Like, how did you let me
do this?

Speaker 5 (02:29:11):
Dad?

Speaker 3 (02:29:13):
Yeah? So see how high they are.

Speaker 8 (02:29:14):
Okay, the guy off the top, that's that, that's the
that's the youngest guy that's getting paid the least. And
he's standing next to that that hot tin roof in August.
It's like one hundred and thirty. That thing weighs sixty
five pounds. He's carrying right there, and they just how
jack t is Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:29:30):
Just from hanging to back. So yeah, so what you're
saying is bring it back.

Speaker 8 (02:29:34):
Dude, I'm telling you that's I think that's where I
got my work ethic. I cut tobacco just growing up.
I mean I was making five dollars.

Speaker 3 (02:29:41):
An hour when I was thirteen fourteen years old, which
back then was great to be back on the mahaw.

Speaker 5 (02:29:47):
I think you're talking.

Speaker 4 (02:29:48):
I think MAHA is going to prove it to where
it's going to show that, hey, we it's more profitable
to actually keep people healthy than they actually taking that
from not taking.

Speaker 3 (02:29:54):
Down Yeah you don't have to yeah yeah, yeah, you
don't have to take down farming. You just have to
hold them accountable.

Speaker 8 (02:30:01):
I mean, you think about what happened during the last pandemic, right,
I mean this, and I don't care what side of
vaccine aisle you're on. But when we developed, when the
mRNA vaccine was developed, this was a completely untested novel theory. Right,
most of the time we make vaccines. First of all,
vaccine is supposed to prevent the infection and prevent the spread. Okay,

(02:30:23):
forget the fact that you would have less severe symptoms.
It prevents infection in the spread. And so basically, a
virus is not a living thing. A virus is an
envelope that contains DNA inside of it. So what we
used to do is we would take the envelope and
we would take the DNA out. Let's say polio. Okay,

(02:30:43):
you take the polio envelope and you take the DNA out.
Now you have what's called an attenuated virus. I can
put this polio virus in your body because it doesn't
have DNA and it can't infect you, but it can
light your immune system up. That's a true vaccine, right.
Expose your immune system to this it's called the nucleo

(02:31:04):
capsid protein and your immune system lights up.

Speaker 5 (02:31:07):
But this.

Speaker 8 (02:31:09):
Virus doesn't have any DNA, so it can't give you polio.
So then you know, Big Pharma comes along and say, hey,
we can actually make these out of mRNA. Well, most
people don't know what mRNA is. But if you actually
take a cell, then you go through the cell wall.

Speaker 3 (02:31:23):
And you find the nucleus of the cell. Inside the
nucleus of your cell thirty two trillion cells, is the DNA.

Speaker 8 (02:31:29):
The DNA is the boss, it's the CEO. The DNA
is running the show. It has two roles. One is
called replication, it makes an exact copy of itself. But
the other one is called transcription. So if I was
the DNA sitting in a nucleus, I would be writing
you guys messages telling you what to do. You go
make this protein, you throw this nutrient out, you bring

(02:31:51):
this nutrient in, okay. Those messages are called mRNA.

Speaker 3 (02:31:55):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (02:31:56):
So my notepad that sends you an instruction is RNA
messenger reb nucleic acid. So when I give you that message,
if it was a normal circumstance inside of a cell,
you would go conduct that task and when you got
back to your desk, the message would be gone.

Speaker 3 (02:32:14):
Organically.

Speaker 8 (02:32:14):
If I said go make the spike protein and you
got back to your desk, the message is degraded. What
Pfizer did was they took a synthetic copy of the notepad.
They took a synthetic copy of the DNA's message. The
only problem they didn't realize was that message never degrades.
So now I say, go make the spike protein. You
get back to your desk, Go make the spike protein.

(02:32:36):
And you come back to your desk, Go make the
spike protein. Go make the spike droting that message, the
mRNA never degraded, so the message continued to tell this
cell to make this thing called a spike protein. Now
what happens is the spike protein then goes into the blood.
Now you have to start dividing the populace into categories.

(02:32:57):
Number one, can you clear the spike protein. You have
no complications from the vaccine. Can you marginally clear the
spike protein? Okay, you have marginal symptoms, weight gain, water retention,
brain fog, muscle aggs, poor focus, poor concentration, hormone disruption.
Shit that you can live with. Then the third of
the population has very severe consequences. They can't clear the

(02:33:20):
spike protein at all. Turbo cancers, trigeminal neralgis, mild carditis, pericardiis.
The people that died the fastest, because again it goes
back to the theory that the biggest fallacy in modern
medicine is that what goes into my body and your
body and your body is all treated exactly the same way.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Let's say the

(02:33:41):
three of us eight the exact same amount of mercury
laden tuna fish every single day, same amount of mercury
and the same amount of tuna fish every day for
ninety days. I might have deadly mercury poisoning. You have
some joint pain and some brain frog. You have nothing,
no trace of mercury in your system at all, because
we all methylate and rid these things differently. So the

(02:34:03):
fucked up thing, if you will, about this MR and
a vaccine is we are like, okay, we've never done
this in humans. We have no safety trials, we have
no clinical data proving effectiveness. Yeah, let's let's rip it,
let's give it a run, let's and let's mandate it.
And then we put this gene experiment. And we call
it a gene experiment because it turns activities in the

(02:34:24):
cell on that we don't know if it's ever going
to turn off. Right, So if you're concerned about that.
You can do spike protein detox. Peter McCullough has one.
These are cheap natokinase and other over the counter things
that you can get that will clear the spike protein
from from your body. But I don't know how we
got down that road. But was I answering question the question?

Speaker 3 (02:34:44):
Or is I just he'll tell you you.

Speaker 4 (02:34:46):
Start bringing scenes. I brought up the Maha thing that
got me down, the vaccine the vaccine world, which is
which is great in the way you tell it. Anybody
can understand how it all works, which is awesome. But
you're looking at the transition of how America is trying
to fix you to where America is constantly trying to
help you. It's where you don't have to necessarily be fixed.

Speaker 7 (02:35:08):
What is the.

Speaker 4 (02:35:08):
Timetable in your mind that America or MAHA or these
movement you're trying to make. You're showing actual data to
be like, see, look how far this is down. Look
how these autom immune diseases down. Like when do you
think you'll be able to have a legistan on as
far as data goes.

Speaker 8 (02:35:23):
Well, first, already the data is already coming in. I mean,
one of the things that was released in what's called
the Maha Report was what Bobby Kennedy wanted to do
was look at what are the links to the skyrocketing
rates of autism, what are the links to the skyrocketing
rates of obesity. And what's really cool about the approach
that's being taken is that we're not going to say

(02:35:46):
we're banning all of these substances for no reason. What
we're doing is we're going to say we're going to
look at the data and we're going to force certain
things like vaccines to go through the same level of
rigorous testing that other farmmaceuticals too. We're not going to
give them on end around. You're not going to take
the vaccine schedule from eight in the nineteen seventies to

(02:36:07):
seventy nine vaccines in twenty twenty five and tell us
that in that span of time we needed seventy one
more vaccines in order to protect the population, especially when
the majority of these have not gone through intense, rigorous
safety trials. So that's the first thing is you're going
to see that a lot of these a lot of
these things are going to collapse under their own weight

(02:36:28):
because they don't have the right amount of safety data.
The second thing that you're going to see is real
intentional research on highly processed food ingredients because we cannot
sustain the rates of autism, which have gone from one
in ten thousand to one and thirty two children. I mean,
think about that for a minute, one in ten thousand
to one in thirty two. When I graduated high school,

(02:36:52):
First of all, I had never even heard of autism.
I don't know an autistic I didn't know an autistic child.
I didn't even know somebody who knew somebody with autism.
She's seventeen years old, she knows ten kids with autism.
I mean that is really scary, right, It's sort of
become semi the norm. So when we reach tipping points

(02:37:14):
like this, and you have organizations like en Chronic Disease
and Moms Across America and MAHA Action, this movement is
becoming such a boulder rolling downhill that you are seeing
politicians that do not want to stand in front of
it and are saying, hey, you know what, I Am
not going to vote for House Appropriations Bill four fifty

(02:37:34):
three because I'm not going to protect chemical companies at
the expense of residents of my state, and that is
where you're going to see the fascist shift when becomes
politically unpopular to stand with chronic disease and against you know,
fixing the problem again. You know, think about the fact

(02:37:55):
that there are bills working their way through Congress, like
House Appropriations Bill for fifty three, where these chemical companies
are right on the verge of getting broad sweeping immunity
to be allowed to sell chemicals they can't sell in
their own country to our country, poison the population in
mass and have no responsibility. You start cutting those things off,

(02:38:17):
and then it becomes more profitable for food farm and
an agg to actually do the right thing. That's when
you will see massive shifts in the status of healthcare
in America.

Speaker 4 (02:38:29):
Do you sin staking on this massive goal and you
realize you're affecting so many wallets, people that are so
big everywhere. Has there ever been a concern for your
own safety doing the things that you're doing.

Speaker 8 (02:38:42):
No question, no question when we talk about it all
the time. You know, I'm in the process now potentially
getting full time.

Speaker 3 (02:38:49):
Security, which I never thought I would ever have to.

Speaker 8 (02:38:51):
Think about that. Interestingly, you know, when we do digging
on some of the well funded source attacks. There are
hundreds of physicians that signed a petition to me permanently
banned from social media, mainly because they'll say I'm practicing
medicine without a license.

Speaker 3 (02:39:07):
I actually.

Speaker 8 (02:39:10):
Am proud of the fact, and I'm very i disclose
the fact. I am not a physician. I'm not licensed
to practice medicine. I'm not trying to give you medical advice.
What I'm trying to do is distill the big data
and give it to you in a way that you
can understand it. And what's happening now for the first
time in our nation's history, is the convergence of artificial intelligence.

(02:39:32):
Big data in early detection is about to circumvent the
entire medical system. We're going to upend our modern medical
system in a way that's going to be catastrophic for
certain players in the system. And the reason why that's
going to happen is because the big data doesn't lie right.

(02:39:53):
And now we have all of the data and we're
starting to publicize the statistics. And you know that seventy
four percent of our nutritional research is funded by food
and farm. I mean Bobby Kennedy wiped out the hierarchy
at the FDA wiped out the hierarchy at the CDC,
and we're putting people in there that have a spiritual

(02:40:13):
intention to help humanity. You know, it's as much of
a spiritual as revolution as it is you know, a
financial revolution, like it just has to come to an end.
And I think finally people are starting to stand up
to this. Every single person listening to this podcast right
now has either had or knows somebody very close to
them that has cancer. If you ask that same question

(02:40:36):
fifty years.

Speaker 3 (02:40:37):
Ago, it would be rare.

Speaker 8 (02:40:40):
Oh yeah, you know somebody I went to high school
with her that his mom and breast cancer. Like right now,
if you said, how many people do you know that
have breast cancer? How many people in your family have
suffered from cancer? I mean, it's the proximity of these
conditions and diseases is right in our faces, and people
have had it right. And the sad thing is, you
know you're walking down the food aisle and you know

(02:41:03):
this shit is in your grocery source. Like I don't
have an issue with seed oils, for example, just just
pick on seed oils for a minute. It's it's not
the plant, it's the distance from the plant to the table. Right,
when you take a canola plant well also called a
rape seed, and you put it in a commercial press
and it comes out gummy. Then you degum it with hexine,

(02:41:24):
which is a non neurotoxin. Then you take that neurotoxic
degumed oil and you heat it to four hundred and
five degrees. Well, now you turn it rants it it's putrefied.

Speaker 3 (02:41:32):
It stinks.

Speaker 8 (02:41:33):
So now you deodorize it with sodium hydroxide that's a
known carcinogen. And then you take a carcinogen and a
neurotoxin youor deodorize and degum the oil, and then before
you bottle it, you bleach it and then you put
it on the shelf. Right you ever walk down like
the food aisle and you see like Weston oils or
the or the vegetable oils, and they're all exactly the

(02:41:53):
same color. It's that beautiful, perfect yellow. And then there's
American Heart Association, one of the most corrupt in the country,
putting a heart healthy label on that. Why because they're
funded by big food, and so that whole system is
being dismantled right now, you know, and it's going to
be it's going to be American first. It's going to
be you know, our children first. And at some point

(02:42:16):
even even the politicians that want to take the other
side of this equation are realizing, Man, I have children,
I have people of my family suffering from these diseases.
You know, I'm trying to raise children. The fact that
my kids have a shorter life expectancy than I do,
statistically speaking, that's not what I want to be my legacy.

Speaker 4 (02:42:33):
What does it look like for you twenty thirty years
from now? You talk about all the statistics that America
is in and they're doing we're doing awful, whatever the
main statistics are. How does America look to you in
twenty thirty years is it? Can it be completely reversed?

Speaker 3 (02:42:46):
It can absolutely be completely reversed.

Speaker 8 (02:42:48):
You know, we can become the agricultural powerhouse that we
were fifty years ago, meaning that we can actually you
can regenerative sustainable farming. We're actually going to you know,
and dispel a lot of the mythsic cow farts a
leading to you know, greenhouse emissions.

Speaker 3 (02:43:05):
You're seeing the.

Speaker 8 (02:43:08):
Food pyramid be rewritten now by people like doctor Mark Hyman.
I mean serious, you know, licensed medical professionals have dedicated
their lives to nutrition. So I think in ten years
our modern educational system and food system will has the
chance to be repaired to the point where you will

(02:43:28):
see a massive reversal in chronic disease. And a lot
of it has to do with the success of the
Maha Mission, because this is legislative. These are legislative initiatives
going on at the state level, going after the SNAP program,
trying to get petroleum based food dies out of this
food system, trying to get high sugarisoda's out of those systems.

(02:43:49):
Looking at herbicides and secticides and pesticides, and like, hey.

Speaker 3 (02:43:53):
What what kind of issues do these cause when we take.

Speaker 8 (02:43:57):
These micropoisons into our bodies and the bodies can't get
rid of them. And I think you're going to see
the shift from major legislative initiatives to supporting our farmers
and the soil and the food instead of these massive
industrial farms. You know, Bobby Kennedy is now like back
to farmers' markets and trying to get you know, the

(02:44:19):
nutrition and the health of the soil fixed, because really,
the health of humanity goes back to the health of
the soil. And so I'm very bullish on the future
of America ten fifteen, twenty years from now. I think
that we can reverse the pandemic of chronic disease. I
think that we can get real data on the truth

(02:44:40):
around vaccines and whether or not we should believe more
in what you know, Man makes us than God gave us.
You know, if you look at what really put the
pandemic into recession, it was heard immunity from natural infection.
It wasn't mass vaccination. The mass vaccination failed because it
needed mass repetitive boost So it wasn't the vaccination and

(02:45:02):
the and the repetitive boosting. It was the fact that
people's immune system kicked in and wiped this fireus out.
It's called your herd immunity. But we didn't reach there
from chemicals and synthetics. We reached that because of natural
natural infection. So I'm very bullish on it over the
next twenty years.

Speaker 5 (02:45:19):
How long do you want to live?

Speaker 8 (02:45:24):
You know, right now I'm pushing one twenty, you know
by my like an age score. So and I'm not
psycho about it. I mean, you heard about some of
my misgivings that never go off the Blizzard bandwagon.

Speaker 3 (02:45:36):
But I just want to play that out there. But
you know, I think it's what what is probable, not
what's possible.

Speaker 8 (02:45:50):
I think, you know, because I've been blessed to discover,
like I would call it, the true meaning of life,
you know how it's really about connection and about community
and about you know, like a shared sense of purpose.
The Gary breck of ten or fifteen years ago is
not the Gary breck Of that's sitting in front of

(02:46:10):
you today. You know, it's very narcissistic, very myopic, very.

Speaker 4 (02:46:16):
Well.

Speaker 8 (02:46:16):
I was oriented around trying to be you know, wealthy,
and I never became wealthy until I started focusing on
other people's well being. And I'm starting to really understand,
you know, how the universe works and starting to you know,
value my my family and my opportunities I've had in
different ways. And I think that's what's that's what's going.

Speaker 3 (02:46:36):
To extend my life.

Speaker 12 (02:46:38):
You know.

Speaker 8 (02:46:38):
It's not the red light bet or the hydrogen nanobath.
It's just going to be that basic connection, you know,
back with my you know, back with my family, whole
food diet, focusing on my sleep, getting regular exercise. As
you can see, I'm not the most jacked person in
the world, but I work out for longevity. That yeah,

(02:47:00):
I see the flex so so you know, I'm I'm excited.
But right now, based on like an age I should
hit one twenty, i'd like to see it maybe go
to one.

Speaker 3 (02:47:08):
Forty forty solid ninety two. That's such an odd number, dude.

Speaker 5 (02:47:15):
I don't mind that.

Speaker 3 (02:47:17):
It's it's like if I fix your back pain and
you might want to live a lot longer.

Speaker 5 (02:47:21):
Sure, But then I think to myself, like say, say
I was set to live to one twenty, I feel
like I'm just going to outlive everybody that I've loved
and I watched them die, which is a wild thought
of it. But that's just like you know, you get
to a certain age and it's like people just people
want to come and take photos of you for being

(02:47:41):
one twenty.

Speaker 3 (02:47:42):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 7 (02:47:43):
You might not have your wife, you know what I mean,
Like if your kids, like you're going to be so old,
like what what great grand kids? Like I get to
go to my great grandpa's house. Yeah, no, maybe there's
like a maybe there's a rare few out there.

Speaker 4 (02:47:57):
Yeah what actually, but it's but I'll take.

Speaker 3 (02:48:00):
I'm not gonna let my wife bail early.

Speaker 5 (02:48:02):
My daughter.

Speaker 4 (02:48:03):
My daughter was yamed after my wife's grandfather. They get
excited to go there. That's a great grandfather.

Speaker 3 (02:48:09):
Yeah, that's a great grandfather.

Speaker 5 (02:48:11):
He does these.

Speaker 4 (02:48:12):
He had I think he had diagnosed with cancer when
tailor my wife was thirteen. She's thirty one. Now, wow,
thirty two, and he's still alive.

Speaker 5 (02:48:22):
He's probably out there and he's probably probably you guys
want you guys to come and visit more.

Speaker 3 (02:48:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:48:28):
Yeah, So there's like some isolation I know I'm getting.
And he's like, man, you just you outlive everybody that.

Speaker 4 (02:48:37):
My wife and I'm like, you better die first.

Speaker 3 (02:48:38):
Well, they say, you know, I better broken.

Speaker 8 (02:48:42):
Center of loneliness is a real thing that we knew
in the mortality space. For example, if you wanted to
cut a human beings life expectancy in half at any age,
and I mean at any age, you put them in isolation,
Like isolation is the most detrimental thing too longevity. It's
so you know, and and the and the crazy thing

(02:49:02):
is so many of us are getting isolated in plain
sight because we think connection is through our phones, right
connection is what we're doing right now, what you guys
do every day on the podcast. You know, connection is
it's it's medicine.

Speaker 5 (02:49:15):
You know.

Speaker 8 (02:49:15):
Again, the Blue Zones proved this too. You know, there
was there were no longevity hotspots that where they didn't
see people out of sense of community and purpose and
you know and a connection. So like there there's something
to be said for what you're you're saying, Like, you know,
you start losing your loved ones and your and your
soulmate and then your will to go that long. But

(02:49:37):
anyway on the chart, I'm making it to one time. Yeah,
I think, I think I think around one ten and
maybe i'll check out.

Speaker 4 (02:49:43):
Intent something happens to stage. I'm sorry you have to
be the process of this conversation. But like she goes,
you're ninety, it's like I got thirty more years.

Speaker 3 (02:49:50):
Yeah, you know I might bail. Yeah, Organs Switzerland. Do
it needs to be done in a minute. Yeah, we
talk about that more of big shit too.

Speaker 8 (02:50:00):
She's like, I don't want to do life without you.
I'm like, I don't want to do life without one either.
This old pinky swear not to die.

Speaker 5 (02:50:07):
Yeah. I saw in one of the one of the
social apps. I just saw this really old couple. They
seem like they were, like, you know, around one hundred
years old, and the wife's just sitting there on the
deathbed and holding his hand, and it's like this whold
couple spending their last moments together and stuff. And I'm
just like, you just see how old they are and everything.
It's like, man, you got to enjoy the life that
you have, right amen. If you look at your wife,

(02:50:28):
like we're going to look like such different people when
we're ninety two hundred, and if you're losing your soulmate
like right in front of you, it's like, what a
fucking ride that we had. One's got to watch the
other one fucking die. Yeah, it makes me a little sad. Yeah,
you're the one that goes first.

Speaker 8 (02:50:41):
Yeah, forty years from today, there's not a person listening
to this podcast that would not give every single thing
that they have at that moment to be back in
this moment.

Speaker 5 (02:50:52):
Yeah, bro.

Speaker 4 (02:50:53):
And it's like, how do you consistently keep that perspective
because it's so easy to walk off this bus and
then go chase something new or be exad about whatever.
But at the end of the day, it's that exact
video that I've seen is it's the males talking to female.

Speaker 3 (02:51:05):
Right, how do you see me?

Speaker 5 (02:51:07):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 4 (02:51:08):
She's like laying there's like, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (02:51:11):
Yeah, was a very real thing.

Speaker 8 (02:51:14):
You know, we said in the mortality space, if if
you had a long duration marriage and one spouse passed away,
you would dramatically shorten the life expectancy of the other spouse.

Speaker 5 (02:51:25):
I'm sure you guys talk about it.

Speaker 3 (02:51:27):
Are you the oldest, she's the youngest, the youngest, but rue,
we have two.

Speaker 5 (02:51:32):
She's the oldest. She's three. She just went to school
last week. And so you know, wife and I were
just laying in bed and you were just like, man,
she just they just grow.

Speaker 4 (02:51:41):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (02:51:42):
Yeah, dude, they're not give a ship about what we say.

Speaker 3 (02:51:47):
And like on the plane here we had like a
good cry. We had a little private moment about.

Speaker 8 (02:51:52):
Just how how excited that we are, how proud we
are that our kids are on this journey with us.
So my oldest daughter, my my two sons, and her
all all work with us full time. So we travel together,
we see clients together. They're all in the business. My
son has the h the hydrogen tablet company. My daughter's

(02:52:13):
launching a chemical free skin care line. She's launching chemical
free clothing, and and it's so it's all under the umbrella,
you know. And and we work together, we travel together,
we vacation together.

Speaker 3 (02:52:26):
And that is the greatest blessing in life.

Speaker 8 (02:52:28):
Like we were just thinking we weren't fortunate for like
the size of our audience or the monetary side of things,
but just the fact that our adult children still love
to hang out with us. They're all here, and we're
all in the Nashville. Uh, my son's here, my daughter's here,
she's here, and they're they're they're at their booths for
their you know, products for companies they founded that they're

(02:52:50):
launching in health space.

Speaker 3 (02:52:52):
And like, to me, that's the greatest measure of success.

Speaker 5 (02:52:55):
Yeah around you. Yeah, you'll know it one day.

Speaker 3 (02:52:59):
Then you start to.

Speaker 5 (02:53:01):
I completely get what they're saying. They're listening to me,
young lady.

Speaker 3 (02:53:05):
Yeah tell you right now.

Speaker 5 (02:53:08):
Sharing those private cries with your wife.

Speaker 8 (02:53:11):
Yeah we did, didn't we It was just her and
I on the plane, man, Nice little, nice little cry.

Speaker 4 (02:53:16):
Nice cry. You had the last question.

Speaker 5 (02:53:18):
Yeah, when he got four tiers started actually come up.

Speaker 3 (02:53:21):
I know, I get sentimental too crazy.

Speaker 5 (02:53:25):
Everybody would do anything, even Ga breaking for an ice
cold bud light. But what would Gary Breckud do anything for?

Speaker 3 (02:53:33):
Wow, that's it.

Speaker 5 (02:53:35):
You can tell them.

Speaker 4 (02:53:36):
I can't say kids, a family.

Speaker 5 (02:53:38):
Oh the example what Josh Josh saying?

Speaker 4 (02:53:42):
Josh had a great one. His was he would like
to just be able to before like cameras existed, go
back in time and be able to view anything he wanted,
so like dinosaurs being able to see I don't know what.

Speaker 5 (02:53:57):
Streaming, Yeah, supper, Yeah, the building of the pyramids, building
the pyramids.

Speaker 8 (02:54:02):
You know, I guess for me, you know, my measure
of success now has been about impact. It's been about
how how many lives can this message land on right?
And because I feel like the message is designed to
educate people to inspire them to make a change, So

(02:54:23):
what would I do anything for? I would do anything
to amplify the message that gets people to make a
transformation in their life, you know, positive transformation in their life.
So if somebody listening to this podcast is like not
going to give me a dime or log onto my
Instagram or anything, but I'm going to take what he
said those four or five things, I'm going to start

(02:54:44):
practicing those things in my daily life. That would be Yeah,
that would be something I'd do anything for to amplify
that message.

Speaker 3 (02:54:54):
Did I'll tell you this.

Speaker 4 (02:54:56):
Obviously I've known about you for a long time, and
then getting to meet you at the Super we have
that little change of the wind thing happening where you
had that bet slip.

Speaker 3 (02:55:04):
We got to talk about the busiest sequence of events. Dude,
we did Super.

Speaker 4 (02:55:09):
Bond over there had this bet slip, and he's like,
I think my BET's dad was like, no, like these
four things happened that but it was.

Speaker 3 (02:55:15):
Like they had to have a kickoff and then return
but not score.

Speaker 1 (02:55:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:55:19):
Yeah, and then this happens. But basically he ends up
hitting the bet. And I obviously knew about you, I
as a fan before we even had that conversation. I
get to meet your beautiful wife. We changed numbers, We've
been talking for a long time. Later, but we ended
up talking about, Hey, we should come down to Miami,
we should do all these things. It is honestly such
a pleasure to have you on this bus and to

(02:55:40):
have this conversation for two plus hours whatever it's been,
because it has been awesome. It's awesome to see your movement,
it's awesome to take these little pieces that you give
us and implement into our lives because you actually get
to see the changes. So thank you for taking the
time and coming on this bus.

Speaker 5 (02:55:56):
I appreciate it too, with somebody two of your stature
like Taylor and I like going back to the accountabilit
Budy stuff, but just playing football and being so like
indirectly influenced by a lot of things that you do
and people like in your industry. Like getting to sit
two on one and have these conversations is really cool.

Speaker 3 (02:56:14):
Na, this is amazing, man. I love about this for
a long time.

Speaker 5 (02:56:20):
That's forever.

Speaker 4 (02:56:21):
Yeah, we see each other, We're like, we gotta do
we gotta do the pods, We'll do your I'll do your.

Speaker 3 (02:56:26):
But and then you know, usually kind of.

Speaker 4 (02:56:28):
Just like a week goes by and we get busy,
and you know what, accountability it's on me. I'm the
one that always lets it fall through. But I'm happy
we find dude.

Speaker 3 (02:56:36):
I'm so pumped too. Man, this has been great.

Speaker 4 (02:56:38):
Now.

Speaker 8 (02:56:38):
I hope your audience gets a lot out of it.
And I am gonna from the day we start ten
weeks on the calendar, that's what I want on the
calendar and it's going to be life changing for you,
and we'll get back on and talk about it.

Speaker 4 (02:56:50):
I'm gonna go throw my back out tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (02:56:54):
I'm gonnail my back out a part of leg No.
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