Howie Roseman On AJ Brown Trade + Cooper DeJean, Lane Johnson & Jordan Mailata Talk Eagles Fanbase

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
There's been a lot of rumors swirling around the old
Internet of us going on our training camp tour where
we visit the New England Patriots. We saw the filled
off Eagles and the Bills. Now Hard Knocks came out
last night at eight pm. So a tactical decision of
ours is, let's release the Bills before we go to Philly.
We release the voge and the Bills episode come out
and guess what commentive commentative of comment is like, need

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we need Philly?

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They won the Super Bowl? We want them?

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Where's Cooper de Gene, the Great White Hope, Where's Joramile
a Lotta the Australian Shepherd? Where's Lane Johnson? And the
GM Howie Roseman himself. We've heard you, guys, We've listened
to the Internet and we're going to release this episode today.

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I'm yeah. It's been out live, live and out line perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Howie Roseman, Welcome to Busting with the Boys. It is
an absolute pleasure having you on.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
For first story we had, we sat down with Marcus
Mariota and Oregon and he was kind of talking about
his entire career in his journey his highs and lows.
But you were a staple in one of his lows
where he was having a really tough time in camp
and he talked about he was doing a scrimmage in
the stadium and he was like putting balls in the
ground and there was a moment to where you pulled
him aside and helped connect him with was it a

(02:11):
sports psychologist.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
You.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
The way Marcus superphrases is that you went up to
him and say, hey, we can obviously something mentally is
going on. This is not a physical issue. Let's get
you a Therapist's get you somebody that can help you
off the field so you can succeed on the field.
And he was very compliment to view, basically say you
you saved Like it was.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
A moment that, yeah, that helped give him more life
in his career.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Saw him.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
I mean, I think for us, yeah, put up a
little bit closer to your I think it's easy for
like really like we're just studying movement, Like that's what
we do because a lot of times when we're scouting players,
like we don't know what they're being told, we don't
know what the scheme is. So we got a study movement.
And when you saw Marcus, you saw he could still
throw the ball. You saw that he was still an
explosive runner, but there was something bothering him, you know,

(02:55):
like and so for us, all we're trying to do
is develop our players on and off the field and
try to get the best out of him. And when
you see a guy still has ability, but there's something
going on, you got to figure out is it physical,
isn't mental? And I mean that that to me, the
best thing we can do for our players, like see
them have success like that is an unbelievable tribute. And
so unfortunately he's in Washington, but most guys to have success,

(03:19):
you know, certainly the guys that are here. And so
when you see those guys, whether it's you know you
Lane or Jordan, you're just with those guys and think
about the you know, Lane juco quarterback comes to Philadelphia
fourth picking the draft and now, like you know, his
whole life's in Philadelphia. He'll go to the Hall of
Fame playing for one team. And then Jordan, that story
and just the way that kind of we took him

(03:41):
and basically said for two years, we don't care how
he looks we're gonna develop him over a three year period.
He's on the roster, we're never gonna cut him, and
we'll see where we are year three, and lo and behold,
year three, we go to Pittsburgh in the COVID year
and all of a sudden, you know, he's forced into
action and playing lights out and really hasn't been off
the field since. And you also see those guys off
the field, you know, Lane three kids, you know, Jordan married,

(04:05):
you know, and you see those guys. It's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, but you talk about like Jordan, you draft a guy,
you say, we're gonna give you two years. We don't
care about that, We just care about developing you. To
be able to do as a franchise, you have to
put yourself in a position to afford having that fifty third,
fifty second guy be like, we know he's not going
to play, we just need him. You guys are doing
such a great job in the draft. What are you
think some things about you that have set you apart
other than literally being here for twenty five years?

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, I don't know. You know, fortunate to be surrounded
by really great coaches, great players, and great people throughout
the building, and kind of all kind of knowing what
we're looking for and if we can find talented guys
who love football who want to be developed, because this
is like the only I've only done this. I've never
done anything else for a living. But I imagine you

(04:49):
go to different areas and they're not expecting twenty two
to twenty three year old guys to be the best
at what they're doing. And sometimes we put so much
pressure on young players to be at the top of
their game, and we got to understand, like they're coming
to a new city, they're coming into a new league,
like we got to develop them. And I think for
us that's a huge part. It's like an understanding that

(05:10):
the best is yet to come for a lot of
these guys and giving the patience to know that if
we can get their best football out of them, even
if it's your three, even if it's your five, we're
still getting the best out of them. And that's really good.
I mean, listen, we love when they played well as rookies.
You know, our guys. Last year's rookies played really well,
which is huge, but they are everyone's different and timing
for everyone's different. So I think that that's really for

(05:33):
us is understanding also what our coaches are looking for,
because I could love a player, but if he doesn't
fit what we're doing offensively or defensively, and we're not
going to see him in positions to have success, he's
not gonna look very good. So I think for us,
those are all the key things that we're looking for
to try to be successful.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
It's brutaled only have you for fifteen minutes, because I
know you've been here a long time, and I think
it's sick that we get to sit down with the
GM and that you've had so much success here, a
lot of highs, a lot of low definitely, And I'm
super curious about you personally. What you felt like you
learned about yourself during the whole Carson WENTZ where you
pay a massive extension, you end up drafting Jalen Hurts,

(06:11):
which was a huge that came with a lot of controversy,
a lot of question marks. You're taking a shot? Are
you taking a shot? And then you go on to
trade Carson? What do you feel like you learned about
yourself during that era, during that time now that's now
that it's in the past, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
I think it goes back to really starting with coach
Red and we had an unbelievable staff. I think eight
of his assistants ended up being head coaches. So you
had the experience of working with all these guys, you know, Harbaugh, Spags, Schirmer,
you know, just naming a few, Childress, all these guys
who were kind of learning from him and kind of
growing together. And then the same in the front office,

(06:46):
you know, Jason Light, John Spytech now Ryan Grigson, Matt Russell,
Tom Hecker, all these guys that we were I'm sure
I'm forgetting a few that we were together through that
part and we were really like just picking each other's
brains and really trying to learn and develop together. And
we had a lot of success, but we really never

(07:07):
got over the hump. And so we had lost five
championship games during that period of time, which was hard,
you know, and really only a four championship games in
the Super Bowl, And so there was a lot of
adversity and just watching how coach re dealt with it
and how he dealt with everything that was going on
and always just keeping fighting and keeping getting back to
work and continue to prioritize what he thought were the

(07:30):
main things in building the football team, and then you know,
when he left, having myself have an adversity because I
was very fortunate, we were winning and I was with
people that I knew for a long time, and then
you know, I had a public adversity, and you know,
I got my legs kind of cut out from me
and having a chance to reset and learn a lot
about myself and understand that when I had the job,

(07:52):
I got it really young. Was I doing the things
that I really believed in my vision for building a
football team, my vision just around myself with the right people,
And I looked at it and I realized quickly that
I wasn't. And I just really spent the year going
on a journey meeting a lot of people, a lot
of people in sports, a lot of gms in sports,
great gms in sports in football and basketball and baseball.

(08:12):
I went to Europe and then also business leaders and
just I think that perspective was huge for me and
understanding that every single person who's had success has tremendous
adversity that they have to face, and you can't really
have tremendous success unless you face tremendous adversity and it sucks,
you know, it's not fun, but it's the price of

(08:32):
being successful. And so you know, then we come back
and I come back in sixteen, and all of a sudden,
we win the Super Bowl in seventeen, and you know,
eighteen and nineteen are pretty good, and then we get
our as kicked again in twenty you know, and with
that was the decision where we drafted Jalen Because quarterbacks
most important position in sports. And unfortunately for us, we

(08:54):
have been in seven playoff games and I think Carson
had played nine snaps, you know, and our back quarterback
are playing in playoff games, are back and quarterbacks you're
playing in the Super Bowl, you know, And so for us,
we need to make sure that position was right because
we had a good team and you know what we
went through that year. I think it really helped build
this next version of our team that had success and

(09:17):
going in twenty two and losing in the Super Bowl,
heartbreaking loss in the Super Bowl, I mean heartbreaking loss
in the Super Bowl for all of us. And I
thought it was I think that was a whole you know,
it don't matter.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
I beat myself off, Yeah yeah, I mean, I didn't
think it was catchable pass, but it is what it is. Yeah, yeah,
what is Well. I think about it every day for
the rest of my life. I will. But it's okay,
it's okay. It'll keep me going a little bit. But
I think all of that really helped us rather on

(09:54):
twenty twenty three. You know the ship we went through
in twenty twenty three as a team, the ship Nick
went through and he you had to go through publicly.
And I think it it's good for you. It's good
for you. It's good for you to be humbled. This
game is a humbling game, and every time you think
you got something figured out, you get your ass kick.
And so you know, that's always the humility in this game.

(10:15):
I think it keeps you working really hard.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, you listen, hear about all the time, how players,
the coaches say it. Up top says it. You know,
it's like, ignore the noise, ignore the noise. It seems like,
and I mean this in the most positive way possible,
Philadelphia might be the noisiest fan base of all times
and the good times and in the bad times. For you,
how do you when things are not going away? You
refer to the twenty twenty twenty season. Shit's not going

(10:38):
the way you want to go. I'm sure this fan
base is losing their damn minds in a lot of ways.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
I think I have a dead baked potato still in
my office from someone who told me to take the
potato and leave. I didn't really understand that, but I
figured i'd keep it a little bit. Yeah, to dead
baked potato in my office.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
But it's your frame, it you little three D glass
boxes or something like that. Yeah, but do you how
important is it for GM? And how do you ignore
the noise when maybe you're part of one of the
loudest fan bases that are trying to tell you how
to do your job.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Well, you know, quite honestly, Like, I want to fight,
you know, And I wish I was as big as
you guys, and I could fight everyone because when I
get mad, but I can't so I can't read it.
I can't see it because if I do, I'm going
to want to react to it. So I mean, these
guys know, like, I'll tell them, just tell me what
I need to know, And they refer to my whispering
crew of people come to me and say, hey, did

(11:29):
you see this. I wrote this because it's hard not
to get mad. It's hard not to be defensive, it's
hard not to you know, try to fight back. So
I just I just ignore it, you know. I won't
listen to anything locally. I won't read anything locally unless
I'm told about it. Because I do, I get emotional
about it. So I just stay away from it. And

(11:50):
I think that allows me to do what I think
is right all the time. And at the end of
the day, we win or we lose.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
You know.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
And at the end, that's the greatest thing about this game,
about this sport, is the scoreboard matters, and so we'll
be judged by what our record is, how we finish
our seasons, and nothing else matters. I think that's the
most important thing. Is we we got to understand, you know,
if we don't win and we want to debate about
the moves we made, it's not gonna matter because they're

(12:18):
not good enough, you know. And if we win, you
know that at the end of the day that that's
really the most talent sign.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
You seem really personable with with the players, like you're
you're out on off lane Johnson and his kids, Jordan
being married, Uh for you, how much of an emotional
process is it when you have to make a hard decision?
Like an example that comes to mind is when Malcolm
Jenkins was let go knowing what he means. How hard
is it to weigh what a guy means tangibly and

(12:47):
tangibly to a team versus also the business sense of
cap space and everything else. And you have to make
those hard calls being the GM because that's a it's
like a spot that nobody really en these because you
have to have those hard conversations.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
I feel a little bit like in the Godfather movies.
Would you rather be liked or respected? You know, you
want to be both, But at the end of the day,
my job, I'm not always going to be liked. You know.
The first thing we do before we start a season
is we we're cutting thirty seven guys, you know, so
we're basically telling guys they're fired. So I think the
most important thing we do is be honest with our
players and tell them kind of where we stand at

(13:20):
all times, and we can get close to them. I
like getting close to them. I like caring about our players,
you know. I feel like their fingers on my hand
because at the end of the day, anyone who walks
through here I'm responsible for, you know. And so if
they do something good, I'm incredibly proud. If they're going
through something I feel part of that. That doesn't mean
they're gonna be here forever, because at the end of
the day, we got to win and I got to

(13:41):
make some tough decisions. But if we do it with respect,
if we do it with honesty and integrity, we could
do those things. I mean, we had a trade a
player last night, you know, who was part of our
Super Bowl team and like being here, and you know,
I just tell him why we did it, and I
don't have to agree with it. Doesn't mean we don't
like you. But sometimes to get something good, you got
to give up something good. And I can't tell you

(14:04):
that every time the player walks out and there's hugs
and you know, respect, I'm sure they're upset. But if
we can do that and be honest with them and
tell them, and I say all the time, you know,
I wish I could plain in this league. I can't,
but I've watched it for a long time and this
is what I see, and this is what I'm thinking,
and this is the reason we're doing it. And I
think if you do that enough, it may take time.

(14:27):
It may take a year, and may take two years,
but eventually they'll appreciate the honesty.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
I love that. How in the hell did the A. J.
Brown trade when you got that fall for yeah, Howard?

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Well, you know, at the time, I'm not sure everyone
felt that way. You know, I think AJ one incredible player,
and he was a guy that really we had spent
so much time on going into the draft and really
fucked it up by not taking him in the first round.
We should have And then you get an opportunity to
bring him here and in the city, and how he's

(15:01):
fit in and the kind of player that he is,
and just a different kind of receiver, you know, like
some guys they hate to be tackled. You know, some
guys they're really hard to cover. When you put those
two together, it's freak show city, you know. And that's
the kind of player he is, and the person he is,
how he's fit in, and the things that he's done

(15:23):
to fit into this community. Him as a teammate being
named captain here, I mean, incredibly proud to see that.
And so, you know, a lot of times you're bringing
guys and a free agency's hard because you're bringing them
into your culture. They're veteran guys. It's different when there's
rookie rookies and you can raise them from the beginning.
But I mean seamlessly fit in. Obviously had had a

(15:43):
relationship with Jalen before that, but having him and Davante
and their relationship and seeing two guys who are selfless,
they just want to win, and I think you see that.
You know, if aj has a great game, DeVante is
the first one congratulating him. When Davante has a big game,
AG is the first one congratulating him. So it's a
beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Take me into, if you can, the war room as
those kinds of trades are going down. You're sitting in
the first round. Who's calling who first? Do you call
it Titans first? Titans call you first?

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yeah, I mean in that situation, John Robinson, heck of GM.
You know, I feel like still should be a GM
in the National Football League. You know, I understood where
he was and financially what he was trying to do
and really trying to figure out a way to make
a win win situation because we had a quarterback at
the time on a rookie deal. That the interesting thing

(16:30):
was that we had the trade done, the terms agreed
to in the morning, we had to get a contract
done with him and so, and at the time we
had we started with three first round picks in that draft.
We traded one for a future pick with New Orleans,
we still had two and basically I said John, like,
if we can't get a contract done, like we can't
do this trade, Like we can't trade you a one

(16:50):
and a three for one year of a player. You know,
we got to get a contract done first. And so
we trade up and we get Jordan Davis. Our contracts
still not done, and John's like, what are we doing?
You know what's going on here? And so after we
picked Jordan twelve, I think the pick we ended up
trading was eighteenth. Between twelve and eighteen, I'm trying to
finish the contract and so nobody knew except a couple

(17:14):
of people that we were even doing it, because I said,
imagine this falls apart, like I'm gonna be the GM
who can't get a deal done with aj. And so
at that point when we finished it, it was about pick
fourteen and the deal was done, and I turned to
Jeffrey and Nick and I said, we're gonna we're gonna
surprise our room when we're on the clock. They don't
know anything about it, and so you know, when we
get ready to pick, I'm just gonna say, hey, guys,

(17:36):
you know, we're we're picking aj Brown, And they're all
gonna look at me like what the fuck's going on?
But they're gonna be excited as shit. And so it
was really fun. It was great energy. It was really like,
I can't even get to five on the amount of
people who knew in our building because of the contract situation.
It was cool, that a hell of a story that it
was cool.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Not so much fun when you know we're trading up
againting Jordan Davis and we're still a few million dollars apart,
but congratulated.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
And what is that big of crunch time? Are you
just basically get on the phone with the agent and
agent like a three way call'd be like, okay, we
got to move here.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
Yeah, it's basically like you can't mess around. I think
the longer I'm doing it, the more important it is
to just be upfront, you know, and just basically, you know,
this high low game, it doesn't really work. You got
to really tell people where you're coming from. And so
there really shouldn't be a lot of time where you're
going back and forth. You're starting high, you're going low,
like it doesn't make any sense. Like, here's what we

(18:29):
think is good for the player, here's what we think
is good for us. Let's do something that's win win,
you know, And that's what we're really trying to do
in every trade that we're doing, every contract we're doing.
You know, I like it when teams, when we make trades,
and teams get what they want out of it too,
because you know, it's a fraternity. There's only there's not
even thirty two gms because some owners are gms. But

(18:51):
you look at it and you want those guys. You
want them to do well, just not at the expense
of us.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
My last question, what is your favorite? Yeah you heard that, so.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
You know what, I'm okay because I got ship to
do after this, so I can't send a thirty minute
teammate it right now, so I'm don't tell. I'll tell neck.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
But yeah, your favorite because that story was awesome. Your
favorite negotiating your favorite negotiation win story that you look
back on and you're like, man, I'm proud of this,
I'm proud of this one.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
I don't know, you know. I feel like at the
end of the day, like anytime you get deals done
and your players are happy and they're excited about the
deals and they feel good about them, I feel like
that's when you know it's never good. We're never looking
to do a deal where players feel like they're mistreated
or misrepresented or disrespected. There's no win in that. You know,

(19:46):
at the end of the day, you're then creating culture
where people don't feel appreciated and respected. So if you
look at a lot of our deals on our players,
they're at the top of the market. I mean, you
go through our team and whether you're talking about Lane
or Jalen or you know, AJ, these guys are the
top of the market. You know when we're doing them
earned you know, they earned the right to be that.

(20:08):
So I think from my perspective, it's never good when
when you're in a situation where people feel like they
were taking advantage of certainly not the players that you're
counting on to win games, to be part of your franchise.
So I don't know. I feel like anytime we complete
something and when we get a smile from our player

(20:29):
or they feel appreciated, I mean, I think those are
the best wins. And I'm really not bullshit here. I'm
telling you, like to me, you know, you have happy players,
you have players that feel connected to this team, this organization,
and it gives your best chance to win.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
You've done some incredible things here in your tenure, but
one of the most incredible things you've done is put
two white dbs in your backfield on defense.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
The exciting, more.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Incredible, incredible. Now I know read blanking Ship is in
the last year of his contract. What does it mean
to the city of Philadelphia to have those two back
together again? Geez, you know we're gonna have the.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
Spot.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
I mean shit. You think about how dumb I am
that I actually let Red become a free agent. The
guy had four hundred and twelve tackles at Middle Tennessee State.
I mean four hundred and twelve. Think about that. I
mean that is unbelievable. And you talk about a position
that relies on instincts and ability to make plays, and

(21:31):
we risk not getting him in the draft. Uh, and
then Coop, you know, another one where it's like, you know,
we're sitting there and we're thinking when we're picking twenty
two last year that he's probably gonna be our pick.
We didn't think that Q would be there at twenty second.
Felt very fortunate, and then we just started trying to
trade up and again those two guys and you know,
the amazing thing, unbelievable athletes, you know, unbelievable players, but

(21:53):
even better people. And uh, you know, you look at
our secondary and obviously we took some losses in our secondary,
some veteran players who have been played a incredible ball
for us, and we're gonna miss those guys. But seeing
how those guys work, how those guys lead, the chemistry
those guys have as well as Q, and you know,
our young guys in the secondary. I think now we

(22:15):
started training camp before we sign Agba, and now we
just made a trade for guy who's gonna be twenty five.
I think we have three guys over twenty five on
our defense. And you look at our super Bowl team
in twenty twenty two, zero of the eleven starters are
on our team. That's crazy to me, that's crazy, you know,

(22:35):
thinking about twenty twenty two and playing in the Super Bowl,
and here we are starting the twenty twenty five season
and we have zero of them. Now we have won
a game, so that doesn't mean it's worked out or
it's good, But even just thinking about how quickly this
league moves in that situation, it's just mind blowing. But
having those guys, having a bunch of these guys who

(22:56):
played together at Georgia, the chemistry that they have, the
defensive energy unbelievable. Obviously, Bevic's a heck of a coach,
and I'm just really excited to see those guys play
and get attaction. Can you believe football seasons here?

Speaker 2 (23:07):
It's been talking about it all.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
It's unbelievable, unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Have you gotten to enjoy the celebrating the Super Bowl
long enough? Are you ready for the season to start?

Speaker 4 (23:16):
You know, it's funny, you know you talk about Philly
and I got four kids, three boys, and my youngest
about a week after the Super Bowl was playing a
travel basketball game about thirty minutes away, and you know,
his names on back of his jersey, and I came
a little late, like you know, we were doing free
agency meetings and and my wife kind of looks at
me and she goes, uh, yeah, Carter had a little incident.

(23:39):
And I said, what happened? And so she goes ask
him so after the game, and I don't know what happens,
and you know, he kind of played out of his
mind for him. So I was I was proud of
him because I'm a little hard on him, and I said,
what happened? He goes dad. Like I get on the
court and some adult yells at me, hey, Roseman, tell
your dad to get to work and stop dismantling the
super Bowl old team. And I'm like, hey, buddy, you

(24:03):
tell them we just want our second super Bowl? And
she what are you telling this eleven year old to see?
I get mad? I was so mad about it. So,
you know, I think from from our perspective, like it's
it's hard to not continue to want to put your
head down work hard. At some point, you know you'll

(24:24):
be sitting on a doc somewhere and you'll think about
all these moments. But in this league, when you're in it,
you want to maximize every moment because you know, you
got everyone's got an expiration date in this league, whether
it's players, whether it's coaches, whether it's general managers, and
so you got to have that urgency. And the minute
I lose that urgency, you know, someone else should take
my seat.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, I love that. You got another one.

Speaker 6 (24:47):
I do.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Before we hit the butt light question because I did,
you brought a gift. They were saying that this is
your mescal tequila company.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, what made you?

Speaker 2 (24:55):
What made you want to start a mescal? Tell me
about the process of doing it, because I'm trying to
know only you publicity, but also say thank you for
the gift.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah, you know what. I love mescal and I would
go into bars and restaurants and I couldn't find one
I really liked, you know. And I could go into
a bar and order ten to fifteen to kill as
I really liked, but I couldn't find a really great
tasting one. And partner with Jim Kramer, who's a huge
Eagles fan who had Mexican restaurants in Brooklyn, and another

(25:25):
guy's a liquor industry really superstar, Tom Moss, and we
have great GM Chuck Huggins, and we brought this mescal
here and it is unbelievably tasting. We got three different
flavors and can't wait for you guys to try it
and tell me what you think. And it's it's it's fun.
I mean, I can't tell you I'm doing a lot
day to day with it, except when we have hard

(25:47):
days and drinking it a little bit.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Just the big best thing about tequila, man, is it's
hard days and good days. It's all enjoyable.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
You've seen Deep Philly Lord the social media game last
night the trade happens and you reminded me of because
you said fleeced earlier. But are you aware of the
video that goes around with the mini men Howie clips
with your Eagles. Fans are like back backing you and
they're like, how he does it again? And they got
this video that goes around. It's just a highlight reel

(26:16):
of you with many men.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
That looks like that picture two thousand and five. I've
seen the one with the binoculars.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
You know, Howie Roseman does it again getting away with this, which.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Is really funny because I was talking to I was
talking to Nick and we're we're talking about, like, you know,
some of the biggest cons and it's like it's like
when they flashed to me during preseason game with binoculars.
You know, it's like like there he is. He's like
scouting the other team, and I'm probably like looking to
see who's ass Nick is ripping on the sidelong or
something like that, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, scouting, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
I love that the fans back their GM like that,
that they have a go to video that they put
out there times something and.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Then we have then we have the other time. You know,
I'll be walking around around and I'll see, you know,
little kids going why did you make a trade? Why
don't you get this guy? Or you know, we'll hear
you know, I get a little fucking howie. You know,
is he gonna do this fucking how You know, there's
no honeymoon, but you know what it may. It makes

(27:17):
you really have to have your gay game all the time.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Is there ever a move back since you've been here
to where you're like the fans were right, I was wrong.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
I think there's one that's pretty obvious. You know, one
guy who would in drafts going to the Hall of
Fame and.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Oh justin Jefferson.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
I'll talk about players on other teams, but you know
what you know, you know at the end of the
day that that's what I'm saying, Like the mistakes kill me.
Like I think about the picks that we have and
who we could have gotten, and you know, the things
that we did wrong, and it helps me get better.
And you know, I feel like I'm constantly trying to
learn and be better and figure out why, you know,

(27:57):
why you make mistakes and why you're picking guys that
you should have picked other guys, and so, you know,
I feel like when you make a mistake, and they're
big mistakes, you know, the worst thing that happen is
you don't learn from it. And so I really feel like,
you know, if you don't make mistakes like that, we
probably don't come back and playing two super Bowls in

(28:18):
the last three years because it really helped me understand
like sometimes you overthink things. Sometimes, you know, you're looking
to fit. It's hard to fill needs in this league.
It's hard to find good players in this league. And
so when you're staring at good players, you just take them,
you know, And the nature of this league you can
never have too many good players. I mean, we're trying

(28:39):
to play at a minimum twenty games. We played twenty
one games twenty one regular season games. That twenty regular
season twenty one games including the playoffs last year. That's
a lot of fucking games, you know. And depth really
matters in this league. And so when you have depth,
that key positions and guys are able to keep going
and may be the difference between a first round by
and playing in the wild card round, which we all
know is hue huge. And so every move we make,

(29:01):
we're kind of going, all right, how can we tack on?
How can we add more talent? How can we add
more depth? You know, if we have two games where
this guy is not playing, can this guy play at
a high level? So maybe that's the difference between having
to buy and not, And that's how we have to
think of every move. There's never a situation where you're going,
we're good. You know, we're good. The fucking paranoid survive.

(29:22):
I'm gonna write that in my office, right.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
I see your eyes like that.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
And for me, you know, you go through training camp
and our scouts asked me that they go, what are
you thinking about? I go, My worst nightmare is that
we let a player go and we don't know how
good he is. My worst nightmare. You know is that
a guy plays five plays in the preseason, someone claims
him and he goes and has this great career. Like,
we better know our team. Forget about everyone else in
the league right now. We better know our own team,

(29:50):
and we better know it in a way that it's
the most important decisions that we make is who's here
and understanding the strengths and weaknesses.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
This is my last question. We'll let you get out
of here. With all the success you're having, two super
Bowls in three years, we walk outside of practice and
it's like the depth that you guys have everywhere, Like
you've assembled a hell of a team. How difficult is
it for you to keep your scouting department, your OC's
r DC's Like, what are those types of conversations when
you're trying to keep a guy who is as interested
in a level of their life become a GM, become

(30:21):
a head coach when they come in your office saying, hey,
I might have this opportunity when your whole goal is
right to keep this band that you've kept together the
whole time, Like, what's your selling points to them?

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yeah, you know, I've had to trick my mind a
little bit on this because I used to get mad
about all the people were leave in and now it's
like it's part of legacy, you know. And when you
have people around the league that consider Philly an important
place in their journey and feel like it helped them
get to where they're wanting to go, it's pretty special,
you know. And to see guys that you care about

(30:50):
be able to take care of their families and feel like,
you know what, I learned something in Philly, and then
you see them in the league meetings or you see
them at the combine, it's pretty special, you know. And
I don't want to lose good people. So when we
get to bring back like Joe Douglas, you know, it's
a beautiful thing, you know. But I think from my
perspective at this point, it's a great compliment, you know,

(31:12):
that that people feel like maybe we're doing something right
that they want to take people that have been here
in positions to help us win, and you know, so
I'm proud of that. You know, we've lost we lost
a bunch of people again this off season on the
coaching staff. Obviously with coach More. I lost one of
our scouts who have been with me since two thousand

(31:32):
and one, I mean two thousand and one and that
guy you talk about being life, deaths, births, marriages. So
it's crazy, you know, but at some point, you know,
it's it's like your kids. You got to let them go,
you know, if they have better opportunities to help themselves
and their family.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
And so.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
I hate bringing in new people because it means we
lost good people. But at the end of the day,
you're changing people's lives too. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
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Speaker 4 (32:10):
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Speaker 6 (32:13):
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Speaker 4 (32:19):
I know, I mean that that that's an easy But
I don't want to trade draft picks. I don't want
to give up like our draft picks, you know, Like I.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Don't want to do that.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Like I feel like you guys are trying to get
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Speaker 6 (32:41):
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Is that so hard to give something about bud Light?
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I want more, And I can't wait to see you
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Speaker 1 (34:05):
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Speaker 2 (34:10):
The gene de gene Is it French?

Speaker 3 (34:12):
No, I don't believe it's I think it is French.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
I don't believe it's French.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
I think that means of jeans.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
You've done it twenty three and meters. No, you probably
shouldn't go in there in the government.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
You're saying, let me ask you, I've heard let me
ask you this question you've had I mean, you've resurrected
a position that was extinct, the white cornerback. You're draft
in the second round, you make the top one hundred,
you win a Super Bowl? What else made the all
white team? You've achieved so much in your short NFL career,
do you ever think to yourself, maybe I should have

(34:45):
it down here on purpose expectations.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
I don't think to myself that, no, No, I'd rather
just you know, just try to keep it rolling, you know,
try to go chase another another champion, ship, continue to uh,
you know, be a spark plug for our defense in
any way that I can be, you know, being being

(35:09):
young and in the league. I feel like we got
a lot of young guys in our locker room, which
makes our our defense fun to play.

Speaker 6 (35:17):
For, you know.

Speaker 5 (35:19):
But I'm just gonna just gonna try and keep it going.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
At what point in your life did you look around
the secondary and be like, Okay, I belong here.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
You know.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
I think, uh, it started at the at the University
of Iowa. I mean, we had we had like a
couple of white dbs that that started for Riley Moss.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
We had some.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
Shout out Jack Kerner, Quinn SHOLTI those guys played safety
for us. You know, so I've never I've never really
you know, felt like I didn't belong, you know, in
in the defensive backfield, which is good.

Speaker 6 (35:59):
You know, I was.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
Riley Moss came before me. You know, he taught me
a lot about the position. He got drafted in the
third round, started last year, you know, so he he
led the way from me.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
I feel like you're in your correct me if I'm wrong,
because I feel like you know this answer. But where
is your jersey ranking? Sales on the team? Are you
number one?

Speaker 5 (36:23):
I do not know the answer to that. I don't
think I'm number one now number one? The answer no,
it wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
It's number one?

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Brother?

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Is it number one?

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Big Dom said that, Yeah, big Dom goes. I feel
like I feel like it is safe to say no
what Big Dom said.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
I feel like it is safe to say that you
are too young white. DB's what Caitlin Clark is in
basketball with the w n B A both from Iowa too.
And what a compliment that you just got.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
That's sick.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Something I do want to ask, and you can be
honest with us, do you get high when your basketball
footage gets released and goes viral on the internet, especially
in the locker room.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
The boys always they always bring it up whenever it
gets it seems like it goes away for a little
bit and then it always pops back up at some
point at the right time. But it's pretty cool to
see it again.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Accounts that I rip on social media.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
A couple burn there's just one account that just post that. Well,
you might retweet it. Well, how's that. How's the podcast
like been for you?

Speaker 5 (37:30):
It's good, It's it's a it's a different challenge. You know,
my life's been been all sports and you know, so
now I'm starting to get into like the media side
of it with the podcast. I think it's been fun
because we can have our we can have our teammates on.
You know, we've had other people around Philadelphia on and

(37:50):
just kind of get to know them outside of football
and kind of give the people in Philadelphia like a
chance to to get to know them outside of football,
because you know, a lot of people just know him
us know us as football players around the city. So
it's good to you know, be able to have that
platform to to push out that that content outside of

(38:12):
outside of football.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Or you for you that somebody approached you and was like, hey,
you should start this exciting whit it's exciting mix, that'd
be awesome. Or did you see like Jason Kelcey he's
running a practice and maybe you know, ask him a
couple of questions about that, or who showed interest first,
the public or you?

Speaker 5 (38:27):
I think it was kind of it was kind of
my idea that I brought to that brought to read.
Obviously Kelsey's got his podcast with him and Travis, you know,
but I felt like it'd be cool for for a
cool opportunity for me and Reid, you know, us being
in such a such a passionate sports city, you know,

(38:48):
and everybody wants to know everything about Eagles football around
around the city for us to you know, just kind
of give some give some insight to to that and
into who we are at players on and off the field,
which has been cool.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Is that something you guys are going to continue to
do during the season.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
I am not sure yet. We we might, We haven't.
We haven't talked that far yet. I know we got
we've got another episode coming out. What's the day Wednesday
to today's Tuesday? We got one more episode coming out Thursday,
and then then we'll see. We'll see what happens during

(39:31):
the season. We might we might get one in before
before the season goes well, we'll see. I'd like to
do it during the season. I think it I think
it'd be fun, but obviously you don't want it to
get in the way of football.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Kind Of scary though, right, because you know, what's the
biggest fear if you if you sit there, Like every
player gets paid, every player has investments outside of obviously
just playing the game of football, trying to make passive income,
whether it's real estate. Guys like to play video games,
but like to be out there in the football season,
which we to deal with when we first started. Yeah,
and sitting there and being in front of people's faces

(40:04):
talking about stuff. All this things is going on, and
I would love for you to dive into like the
fan base of Philly. But are they as crazy as
people make them out to be in a good way? Obviously?

Speaker 5 (40:14):
Oh yeah, they're They're They're definitely crazy in a good way.
You know, they definitely hold you accountable, you know, you
hear it. I remember my first I wasn't playing yet.
This was week too. This was the Monday night football
game and against the Falcons, and Saquon had he dropped
that pass on fourth down, and I remember hearing people

(40:37):
scream from the stands like they wanted to they wanted
to send him back to back to New York after
after you dropped that pass, it was and it was
it was weak too. That's when I kind of that's
when I kind of realized, like, you know, these these
fans really are invested, you know, into into Eagles football.
And then Sequon goes on to rush for two thousand

(40:58):
and you know, now he's a He's a legend in
the city.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
You can just tell they eat it up. This morning
we were at We're gonna have a hotel. Some guy's
like half drunk.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
It's like it's Philly.

Speaker 6 (41:10):
That's what we do in there.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah, it looks well, just give the.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Holy ship, dude. Dude, when you're obviously, when you're coming
out of Iowa, everyone's excited about you. It's like, holy ship.
There might be a starting corner in the NFL. And
then people were talking about a first round pick, first white,
first round pick. Don't mean to make this all about race,
by the way, try to play, but when you're when
you're in the draft process, Like, what was it like

(41:38):
when the first round went by for you? Obviously it
was difficult, but you have types of conversations like Tom
Brady talks about following the six round, He's like crying
with his mom and dad holding a baseball bat, thinking
maybe I should have played baseball. Yeah, Like, was there ever?

Speaker 5 (41:50):
Yeah, I mean I was just the way the first
like the first round went for me, like I had
this was this is what I was about. I had
all these people over to this place in in my hometown,
and to not go in the first round, you know,
That's that's kind of why I was disappointed, just because

(42:11):
I felt like I'd let them down. But that wasn't
that wasn't really the case. You know, I was getting
all these prank calls and stuff during the first round,
which made it even even tougher, you know. But then
I was disappointed for a little bit after the first round.
But then you know that that next day came, and
you know, I knew I was going to go on

(42:32):
that day at some point, you know, So I was
just I just looked at it as you know, being
excited for an opportunity to to continue to play ball,
you know, and I think it was a blessing in disguise.
You know, ended up here in Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
You had a hell of a rookie year. What does
it mean to you to get ranked in the top
one hundred.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
Yes, the players, it's it's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
I mean in the sixties, I told you, yeah, it
could be a.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
Little Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. No, it's
it's pretty cool.

Speaker 6 (43:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
I guess I never really paid too much attention to
the top one hundred when I was in just watching
the NFL, So I don't. I mean, I guess some
people like take it really seriously, Like I've seen people
on Twitter and all over the place, you know, they
seem to take it pretty serious. But I mean I
think it's it's pretty cool. It's a cool honor.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Yeah, it's all I mean, you're ranked. Those are players,
So you sat there in December and they're all handed
out the sheets. Yeah, in the offensive line, they all
just do the same person for twenty.

Speaker 5 (43:39):
I's gonna say. I don't. I don't know, because like
usually you just do your teammates, don't you. I feel
like that's how it is.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, a lot of guys do but as like Ben
like Ben Jones are center. He would always get We
would sit there in a room and be like, hey,
who do we think the top twenty guys are in
the NFL, And we'd rattle them off, and then we
take like where there's nine guys in the room. We
would take that that one sheet and topy it eight
times and then that that would be all.

Speaker 6 (44:03):
Of our really.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
See, I think I think we just did it in
like the the locker room, and I think everybody just
put each other down, so we didn't take it as
serious as as you guys.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Yeah, I guess what was your favorite play of the
year last year?

Speaker 5 (44:19):
Favorite play of the year. I mean it's gotta be
the like by me that I made. Probably the touchdown
in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Probably, Yeah, you did have a great form tackle. Who
is that on?

Speaker 6 (44:32):
I think that was?

Speaker 3 (44:33):
That was it?

Speaker 5 (44:37):
Isn't that you guys? A boy that's our boy was
ship He's biggest.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Was that him?

Speaker 6 (44:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Yeah, I mean did you apologize sorry, mister Henry?

Speaker 6 (44:49):
No, I did.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
I did not happen to talk to him after.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
He's a good dude, man.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
Yeah, that's what I've heard. That's what I've heard.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
I don't want to get lateral with him when he's
got that stiff arm ready. Yeah, you got practice it
all week, which I'm sure he did chopping the arm down.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
I did get him before he before he got gone,
which is good.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
I mean he was a rare ketch out of the backfield.

Speaker 6 (45:10):
Yeah, he.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Got it, he got his ass. Who was a player
like this, like this past year you went on the
field and you're like, holy ship, that's.

Speaker 6 (45:17):
So and so.

Speaker 5 (45:21):
Probably tomor Chase, tomar Chase watching him in college and
Joe Burrow. I mean really when I when I got here,
like lining up against a J. Brown, it was was
pretty cool. I was a big I was a Minnesota
Vikings fan growing up, so and Adam Deeling was was
a guy I like to watch growing up because he

(45:44):
played for the Vikings when I was younger and I
got to line up against him. He gave me some
good work.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
That's say we were talking about after practice. Yeah, you said,
Adam Feeling kind of gave you were welcome welcome the
NFL MO. Yeah what happened, You're just like look at us?

Speaker 5 (45:59):
Yeah, he just w worked me. He worked me get paralyzed. Yeah, like,
holy ship, this is this is like my childhood idol
who I grew up watching now.

Speaker 6 (46:11):
But it was h yeah, it was.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
It was a rough game for for the kid there.

Speaker 6 (46:16):
What was that.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
Shoot? I don't even know, to be honest, it was
probably halfway through the season.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
You're starting get in the groove.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
You're starting to figure stuff. You're like, oh, I can
play in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
Yeah, and then uh I got humbled real quick.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
And it's crazy.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
Just a savvy vet you know, another white team player.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
When you look at your defense, dude, like your your
defensive lines insane. You You we walk in the field
and you see so many specimens guys that have either
come from other teams. You see the second team guys,
you're like, oh, that guy was a starter at X,
Y and Z, Like, do you realize the kind of
team you guys have for this year? Again, it seems
like your depth is just wild.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
Yeah, I think, uh, you know how he did a
great job of, you know, bringing guys in who you
know at the positions that that we lost, you know,
guys that are looking to prove something and guys that
are coming back, you know, even hungrier. You know, we
got a lot of a lot of young guys on
our defense. I think we might have the youngest defense
in the league one of them. You know, which is

(47:21):
which is good? It keeps energy up. You know, everybody's hungry,
you know, to to be out there. But you guys
guys like Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Zach Bond who came
on last year, the Kobe Dean Trot, everybody, and we
got so much, so much depth and and so much

(47:42):
young young talent on our defense. You know, it's it
makes it fun when you're when you're out there on
the field.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Is there a guy on that defense? You just heard
a couple of things heard Jalen Carter is a dog. Yeah,
And like he's not one of those guys you really
want to mess with. No, No, is that the number
one guy on the team. You're like, yeah, if he's
in a bad mood'mstay away from him.

Speaker 5 (47:58):
Yeah, yeah, definitely never, definitely stay away from talk about Mitchell.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
He had a hell of a year last year as
a rookie too, and uh, talking with some of the staff,
they talk about what a pro he is, Yeah, but
what makes him? Uh, what makes him such a pro?
What's his routine, what's his mentality, Like.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
I think, you know, he's the same person every day,
comes in, you know, and just just does his work.
He doesn't doesn't say a whole lot. You can get
him out of a shell a little bit. He's he's
funny when you when you can get him out of this,
out of his shell. But if you guys, if you
guys listen to his interviews, like he's I don't think
he's a fun fun guy to like listen doing his

(48:40):
interview because he says the same things over and over again,
just because I don't I don't think he really cares
for that stuff. He's uh, he's just focused on on football.
Like he he literally you don't you don't ever see him,
you know, outside the building. You rarely ever see him
like out anywhere like getting food or just anything. He

(49:01):
just sit goes home, chills, keeps to himself. But he's
he's definitely an interesting cat.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Not somebody on exciting mics.

Speaker 5 (49:09):
Oh, we already had him on. We already had him on.
We got him experien We got him. We got him
out of the shell a little bit, which was which
was good. I think the people needed needed to hear that.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
See a little bit if you could have one guest
on exciting mics, who's your white buffalo?

Speaker 3 (49:26):
I can't say us.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
Probably Lebron, James Lebron, I'm Lebron being Lebron guy. Or
Tom Cruise, Tom Solid Top Guns, like my my favorite movie,
the second one. See that's tough. I think I think
the second one has has a little more thrill, you know,
but they're they're close, they're close. I'd drank him one

(49:53):
and two for for my movies movies. Yeah, I love
Top Gun. I went and watched the New Top Gun
like five times in the movie theater. Yeah, in the theater,
in the theater.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Yeah, I respect to see that many times.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
The Man The Dark Knight is a great movie.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Also, phenomenal movie.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
Dark Knight rises also number three for you, Yeah, The
Dark Knight four.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
We'll just keep this. Let's just keep this training on
you a comedy guy. You just see just like these
serious suspense movies.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
I like the suspense. I like the like the military
style movies too, like Thieves. Have you ever seen n
F Thieves?

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Good movie?

Speaker 5 (50:33):
Good movie.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Didn't they just make a second one?

Speaker 5 (50:36):
I don't know, there might be three now, Actually I
don't know. I like the military style movies, The Action
The Top Guns by far.

Speaker 6 (50:47):
My my favorite.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Have you seen The Patriot?

Speaker 5 (50:50):
No, I'm not, buddy, I'm not a huge like I'm
not a crazy movie guy.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Souair fair. But it's like I guess, like the earliest
form with military movies. And if you doubt, I'll check
it out America the best. You'll watch it. But yeah,
we actually check that. We're awesome. Oh yeah, go ahead.
I was getting excited about The Patriot. That's my bad.
You go ahead.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Coach Siriani. Your favorite thing about him and a pet
peeve you have with him.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
Oh no, I don't know if I can do that
pet peeve.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
You have to.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
You have to.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
Favorite thing about him. He loves winning, loves winning, hates losing.
Very passionate, very detailed, very detailed in the way he coaches.
You know, sometimes he's like extra detailed, extra extra detailed,
like in the team meetings. You know, he calls he

(51:52):
calls everybody out on on everything. You know that that
either you did wrong or or you need to do better,
which which is good. I love that, you know, and
he also points out the good too, which which is
which is awesome. You know, But I think he's a
great coach. You know, he loves to talk. His talk,

(52:15):
which is something that gives you, gives you confidence as
a player. I think, how about that question, let's get
to be the pet peeve.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
What's it pet? So? Yeah, Rabel, he's a Matt Collins
gotten a little soft.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Yeah, you can tell he wants to lose it and
he kind of hardests it in and he wants him like, hey,
let it go.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Was the s Pacification of America has?

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Yeah, because it's so it's so new, but everyone's got
like you know, you in the locker room, a head
coach does something and then you guys all walk in
the locker room and they use someone's mimicking or joking
about whatever the team keys or some sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
He always says, I think with Green Bay lafleurs, like
sometimes with this.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Yeah he's got some interesting speeches. Yeah, how is here
on in with his speeches?

Speaker 5 (53:06):
He really to be honest, he really doesn't like give
crazy speeches like he like every time in the locker room,
like before games, he'll just he'll walk in. He'll usually
say like the keys. Sometimes a lot of times he'll
say the same tough detail together, break that down a
little bit, and then it'll be on the players to

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to bring it up and and and say something.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
It seems like you.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Guys are really like a player led team in a
lot of ways. Who are some guys besides yourself that
stand out quite a bit to you from a leadership standpoint.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
I mean, Hearts obviously, the quarterback. You know, he's he's
a good leader.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
A J.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
Saquon. Saquon is probably one of the best teammates I've
I've been around, you know, my time playing playing football.
Just a just a down to earth dude on the field,
and he's he's a lot of fun to play against
off the field. He's he's just really really fun to
talk to. He always has some interesting conversations. I don't

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know if you guys are talking to him today, but
he'll get he can get into some some crazy stuff,
you know, which is which is always fun, especially during camp,
you know, to kind of kind of break up the
football stuff. You kind of just talk about random ship,
you know in the training room, which is which is fun.
So he's he's that guy read obviously has been a

(54:29):
great leader, not only for our defense but for me,
you know, since I got here, he kind of took
me in there his wing, you know which, which is
pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
It's good to know that you have no pet peeves
of Sirianni. Yeah, it seems like a pretty So it's okay.
I feel like that's enough. It's enough of a resume,
good enough sample size your own pet peeve.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Yeah, we know we're at right now. We're in training camp.
We're locked in and he's thinking. He's thinking right out
of himself. Like when the media sees this, I can't
let him have it.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yeah, he probably wouldn't listen to this part and have
a good chuckle or a good laugh.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
He does seem like he seems like a guy's guy,
a little bit guy's guy.

Speaker 5 (55:08):
Yeh what I yeah, I don't know if I can
say this.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Yeah, we don't want to do anything that's oh, probably
not he was.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
It was after the super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, okay, Well you got.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Everybody enjoyed a beer together anywhere during that Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Yeah, the super everyone gets one beer, twelve ounces bud Light,
call it a day.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
Yeah, we were in a good time after the super Bowl, though,
I can't imagine postgame party.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Have you physically seen the City of Philadelphia, Grease the Poles.

Speaker 6 (55:38):
No, I have not.

Speaker 5 (55:39):
Actually I've seen I've seen videos, but I've never.

Speaker 6 (55:41):
Like waiting in it.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
You know, how often are you going into the city yourself?
I feel like you can't get around.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
I mean I live in the city, so I I mean,
I feel like I blend in pretty well. I usually
just throw on a hat and uh, you know, I'm
just like a regular dude walking down.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
You've been to the Rocky Rock Statue?

Speaker 5 (56:00):
Yeah, right with it? We Uh that's where the that's
where the parade ended, the Rocky Steps and statue.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
You guys.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
Yeah, that was like one of the first things I
did when I when I got here and toured the city,
was run up the Rocky Steps and I put the
put the theme music behind it. It's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
You should make that part of your game day routine.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
I know, Oh my, that might be sick. Yeah, the
day before the game or the day.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Of whatever works in your schedule.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
And also take your legs too. I've never really walked
up those steps, so I wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (56:31):
Know how much of it's not. I mean, it's not
a whole lot on the legs. Yeah, maybe get up
at six yeah, just get get a little Yeah, it
might be good to to warm warm the legs up
a little.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Bit, you know, visualize, look around, look at Rocky, think
of all the things he's accomplished in his life.

Speaker 5 (56:46):
See the city of Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
This is what I'm trying to do, is what I'm
trying to get that. Do you have any like superstitions
on game day?

Speaker 5 (56:54):
I usually, like, I usually get one, like I do.
I got the same routine the whole the whole year,
and if we lose, then I gotta I gotta switch
something up in my routine. But I try to do
the same thing. It's almost too much sometimes, but I
try to do the same thing, you know, each and
every each and every game day. Like I'll get there.

(57:17):
I have to eat exactly at four hours before the game,
go out on the field, two hours before. I do
my stretches and stuff before that, handshakes at at a
certain moment, you know. So I I feel like I
got it down to I know science. Obviously every year

(57:38):
is different, So this year I'll have to figure out
a different different routine.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
For take away a little something every game.

Speaker 5 (57:46):
Yes, well, yes, I try to. It depends depends what
we're wearing on like jerseys and what they're wearing, you know,
because that's a defensive guy. You gotta wear you know,
you gotta make sure you got the right gloves on,
you know, things like.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
That, that jersey a little yeah, right, So it's a
savvy move, never know, savvy move.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
We we appreciate your time, appreciate you coming on, don't
We can't dive into too much because we got to
have them on the bus. Yeah yeah, that'll have the
next offseason. But good luck this year, stay healthy.

Speaker 5 (58:16):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
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Speaker 5 (58:20):
Angelo's Angelo's cheese Steaks?

Speaker 3 (58:24):
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Speaker 2 (58:24):
Do you feel about that? Never been?

Speaker 5 (58:26):
Are you from Philly? Where at riading? Okay? Dallas Sandro's,
I'm not sure if I had it, I've had del Rossi's.
You ever had del Rossi's a couple of Philly guys.
I don't think I've had Dellas.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
No, but check out check out exciting Mike's. You see
the exciting whites of the field this year.

Speaker 5 (58:50):
But good luck, absolutely appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Thank you.

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portion of this podcast. At the Philadelphia Eagles training camp.
We are joined by two stout gentlemen, two boys, big boys.
Offensive lineman Lane Johnson. You've just gotten the ninety nine
club in Jordan. Make sure I'm saying this correctly? May alatta?
Is that correct sir?

Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
It's great, good enough for me, good enough for you. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Make sure that Mike's a little closer to your face.
That's because we got to hear. This is a whole thing.
We do a podcast and so you want people to
hear what you're saying. Serious, sir, obviously, Lane, you will
get to you in a second. You're a stud. We
love you to death. Your story, Jordan, is unbelievable. Being
in Australia playing rugby. You went and trained at IMG.

Speaker 7 (01:00:20):
Yeah, the International Play Apotheit program was run out of IMG.
So yeah, that's where. Well it's for about three or
four months and uh, halfway through that process said that
was draft eligible. It's like cool, what's that? They explained
it to me, and that's crazy. Team took a chance
on me. So it was the seventh round, seventh round.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Seventh round. Took a chance on you. What for you?
Was like, Oh, I'm playing this game rugby in Australia.
No one really cares about football. I'm assuming you go
and take a show at this sport that you've never
played before.

Speaker 6 (01:00:49):
Man, I was young.

Speaker 7 (01:00:50):
I was twenty years old and I decided, you know,
I didn't even attend to twenty one when I joined
the program, and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Look, okay, yeah, yeah, how old are you right now?

Speaker 6 (01:01:00):
Twenty eight?

Speaker 7 (01:01:01):
So yeah, just turn twenty one when I got drafted.
I know, I look, look forty eight youself, well, I.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Mean, what was like for you when you see Jordan
come in? Obviously, this big athletic bastard walks in the
door Jurassic Park, Jurassic Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:01:18):
Jason Peters, this dude. But I was like, I couldn't
believe how well he can move at the side at
his size. So now like even now, like like you
see how lean he is. It's like, hey, that's why
we got to pay tarriffs on great Aleta.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
You're put together, man.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Yeah, yeah, I was kind of watching your sets out there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Yeah, yeah, Christy sets. You get some Christy sets. How
long did it take you to understand the techniques of
pass setting, angles, hand punching, run fits man double teams scheme.

Speaker 7 (01:01:52):
I'd say probably last year is probably honestly like the
culmination of everything.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Yeah, you start off yeah one, it was.

Speaker 6 (01:02:01):
Now I feel like I was I started off hot
year one.

Speaker 7 (01:02:03):
Sorry, I feel like, you know, I'm more comfortable now
in my set, my technique now. But I think it's
just culmination of what he is adding up and getting
to a point where you understand, you know, the QB
dropped depth and knowing how many you know, kicks to
go and just kind of get comfortable over time. And
I think it was kind of last year just as

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just it all come together.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Hell yeah, man, laying for you with with Jordan, what
was a couple early behaviors or things that he did
to where you're just thinking like, uh, what the fuck
are you doing? He's like what we do in Australia.

Speaker 6 (01:02:42):
The pretty big is that we got on here. The
F word is pretty big in America, but the sea
word in Australia is that for it. So that was, uh,
probably the biggest change that I learned from.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
He was eating his little slurpy and he's like, I'm
a big ol' cunt.

Speaker 6 (01:02:57):
Yeah exactly. I didn't say that this guy man, he's
you're a silly cunt. Broh. I didn't. I didn't know.

Speaker 7 (01:03:10):
Yeah, that was a big shock for me coming here
using the using that wood and everyone was like what
did I say wrong? Yeah, And they had to educate
me and after that, I was like, all right, cool
concert anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:03:24):
But no, he was. He was a good time Charlie
from the very beginning. Really yeah. I mean he had
to learn the ins and outs and like he had
his growing pains, but there was like, uh like it
was a preseason game here at home where he had
you just played lights out and the sets were fucking
you know, getting out of there, and I was like,
damn dude, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Because when you got here, obviously Jason was here, you
were who was Who are the rest of the guys.
It feels like the Eagles have their guys for ten
years plus all the time.

Speaker 6 (01:03:50):
Yeah, I don't know if Kelly was already gone. I
think Kelly already left. Uh d k, Jason Peters is here,
Big B was here. Tackle just think tackle wise Dennis
Kelly how much? Oh he was my favorite. He was
the ultimate equalizer because we had just a lot of

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different personalities in the room. But he was like the
guy that came in. He was like, this man's the
this man's our judge.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Yeah, he's everybody could be having a conversation and then
he will come in with the perfect devil's advocate. He's
like I'm not saying I disagree with you guys, but
what about this and then restores up the conversation perfectly.

Speaker 6 (01:04:30):
Yeah yeah, and he's been like that, just he lights
out every time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Yeah, no doubt with Lane for you coming in, you
have Jason Peters Kelsey and then you're what you're fourth overall,
third overall, fourth, fourth overall. You're in a position where
you're being around these guys, these Hall of Fame cats
the leadership, and now you find yourself and you're you're
thirteen now the leader of the Room ninety nine club, Like,
how is that transition? How big of a help were

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those two and developing you from a leadership stay point.

Speaker 6 (01:05:01):
Yeah, it's just it's a lot of fun when you're
around like guys that are super high intensity like you are.
Like there's like lots of different personalities, but like Kelse's one. J. P.
Brooks was, uh, you know, Brooks was a very serious guy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
So he was a different cat.

Speaker 6 (01:05:16):
Yeah he was. Uh you remember, like he's kind of
built like sapphole just uh, you know, just you're around
even like you're not from this planet. Yeah, yeah, different,
but uh, their work ethic, uh, their drive for the game,
you know, and I think JP as soon as I
came in the league. You know, he could have been
asked asked to me as seeing as somebody was trying
to take a spot, but I got stuck at right tackle,

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and pretty much you know, he was my mentor, you know,
far as like sets and how he played his style
and uh yeah, just like we had lots of good examples,
you know, Jason Peters, Sean Andrews. We just have Evan Mathis,
Todd Harriman's We just we've always been pretty pretty loaded
and had good teachers.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
I see you got the you got the toast spaces
on you going into year twelve thirteen, you're going into
year eight. What are a couple of camp necessities in
training camp that are muss?

Speaker 6 (01:06:08):
Dude? Yeah, dude wipes element salt packets. Yeah, that's one
we edit. U We edited one this year. It was
a camelback. Camelback for the backpacks. We got one hundred
animals coloring books from CBS. Lanning bought three of those.

(01:06:29):
So uh, I'll actually I'll tech you all some pictures
later that we've done, will put it. Yeah, I'm not bullshitting,
so I'm pretty proud. Of mine. So so we've been
doing that in meetings sometimes when it gets stagnant. Uh,
but no, man, it's we've been having fun. But no,
it's been it's been kind of a grind this. Uh,
you know, hopefully no super Bowl hangover. Hell, we're you know,
we're getting the dog piss be out of us. So, yeah,

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it's been good.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
Who's the personality to break up the monotonia camp in
the oly room?

Speaker 6 (01:06:55):
Landing, I'd say it's landing then, like I've had I've
had my I feel like I've had my days in
the sun in landing and if yeah, if landing, I
don't know. I'm trying to describe the guy. Uh, this
is a different cat.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Huh.

Speaker 6 (01:07:12):
He has like the Chris Farley, he has the John
Candy and him.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:07:16):
And he also has the Billy Bob from Varsity Blues
and him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
So we want to come. That's an interesting cocktail. So
it's almost as interesting as Lane Johnson being Philadelphia. You're
one of the most country cats of all.

Speaker 6 (01:07:29):
Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Yeah, Nebraska, How crazy of a transition was it for
you when you first got here?

Speaker 6 (01:07:35):
Yeah? It was, Uh, I mean football's you know, obviously
very serious in Texas. But I just feel like here
the spaces are tighter and so, you know, traffic when
you get home, there's like kind of no hiding. So
you know, I remember coming home from some games a
few times people spot you in the car, fucking run
up on you. You remember Gruden telling you, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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sometimes you get in those traffic jams and hey, but
I know it like it comes from a place like
they love football. They want to see us do well,
and they'll let you know if it's not. You know, yeah,
up the part when.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
You got to the NFL, what was your what was
your rookie hazing? Like, what did you have to do?
What Lane put you through?

Speaker 7 (01:08:14):
It's actually great that then they didn't put me through much.
Just get the Chick fil A and Pope eyes for
every game, every away game, I had to get JP's
apple pie. Missed it one time, found that real quick. Yeah,
how did that go? One of the worst scoldings I
ever got from I felt like I was getting scolded
from a dad.

Speaker 6 (01:08:34):
Oh, he was getting a scolded.

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:08:37):
I should I should have drive to the one five
miles away. That's something that's something that he.

Speaker 6 (01:08:42):
Looked forward to the whole.

Speaker 7 (01:08:47):
Upset, But they didn't do much. Man, just make sure
that there were snacks in the room. What the hell
you're gonna tell him to do? Look at him, big boy?
So like like whenever I first got here, like Chip
wasn't about that. Didn't have much of the you know,
even the Rookie Talent Show.

Speaker 6 (01:09:02):
We don't that. So you have the Rookie get Raiders
the end of training cat practice.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Do you do anything as a vet to the rookies
that come in?

Speaker 6 (01:09:12):
I do the same thing that I was put through.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
What's your what's your what was your tasty treat? What's
your what's your number one?

Speaker 6 (01:09:21):
Number one? For yesterday? You like this?

Speaker 7 (01:09:25):
Which one put to dinner? Chicken fried steak, some noki? Yeah,
we've we've been doing We've.

Speaker 6 (01:09:32):
Been doing mashed potatoes. Uh what have we been doing?
All grotten potatoes? Potatoes and then just some we mixed
it up. But I know he's never had chicken fried
steak till like last year. So he was like, this
was like, dude, this is amazing. Don't need to have
a meal. You'll be hey. You won't be doing you
won't be doing good, but you'll be feeling good.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
I love the bonding over food a couple of line hogs.

Speaker 7 (01:09:55):
What you kind of sad because we're sitting in there
without chicken fried steak and everyone's looking at us.

Speaker 6 (01:10:00):
Yeah, Landing is one of those guys that gets up
early in that sauna. You know for way in days
you may have to lose five you know, Yeah, it's
kind of good.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
To But we had the Titans that would be like
sixteen over like two in the morning, and the head coach,
Malarkey would pull up the security footage of someone going
in at two in the morning just to getting the sauna,
and like, yeah, he put up like team meeting. He
put up a team meaning, but who's this right here?
Let's say this guy really loves ball and be spinded

(01:10:31):
showing the security camera walking into the sauna and it'll
be like two thirty five in the morning.

Speaker 6 (01:10:35):
Michael Bennet would do some ship like that. Here.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Michael Bennett was a different.

Speaker 6 (01:10:38):
Michael Bennett would be you know, dom say two minutes.
Everbody's got the shoulder pads on, you know, somebody maybe
taking a piss. Michael Bennett being there in the absence
saltus none of his ship on. He might come out
there the fucking second series of the game.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
I'm like this, this dude here, different cats entertaining a
great player did not have that anxiety being like I
got him.

Speaker 6 (01:10:57):
Being around people that didn't have the anxiety that we had.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Any I didn't care. I'd be like, how the fuck
do I get more like that? Because I felt like
I always have it. Yeah, groups, they're going to figure
it out, They're going to be, they to be. It
just seems like they're never going to get this crazy. Yeah,
it's crazy. What was the biggest difference between Australia and
America for you, like the biggest culture shocks besides the
word cunt.

Speaker 7 (01:11:22):
I don't know if there is a Probably the fandom
in sports. I thought, you know, rugby fans or just
sports fans in Australia were pretty die hard. But I
think across America it's just like a different level, just
a different level.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Is a different bird.

Speaker 7 (01:11:40):
Yeah, maybe that's probably why I feel that way, but yeah,
just the fandom across the whole country is so different.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Before you found football, was your goal to play for
all blacks.

Speaker 5 (01:11:52):
No.

Speaker 7 (01:11:52):
I was born race in Australia, so it would have
been the Wallabies the Wall. Yeah, the Blacks, the reminion
team for New Yelland. But everyone everyone thinks, yeah, New Zealand,
Australia the same thing. That's why I say, like Canada
and America.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
I would say the same thing to the boys they
were talking about news guys. It's not the same, the same.
So I'm glad you were able to culture them.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Man we esked. We asked this to Cooper pet peeve
of coach Sirianni one thing you love about him and
a pet peeve you have with him.

Speaker 6 (01:12:21):
I love he does like a lot of insightful stuff,
like speeches, like we hear like from a lot of
different We had Michael Johnson coming here in the off season.
But sometimes we get too many quotes from basketball guys.
I'm like, hey, some bitches, we're out there shooting those
threes and duck in because they didn't want to go
across that middle. Hey you've been there. Hey, motherfucker, I'm

(01:12:46):
not dribbling no ball.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
But it's a different mentality. It is a different mentality.

Speaker 6 (01:12:52):
I remember Charles Barkley saying he went a few practices
they tried to get him out of Auburn, or when
he's in high school and he was like, man, funk
this yeah out there and one time going across the middle,
It's like, hey, okay, you gotta make that choice. Don't
want to stay with this or don't wanna Yeah, no
doubt go basketball. You make a lot more money, is guaranteed.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Much better, longer, Yes, more longevity.

Speaker 6 (01:13:17):
Pet pee for you, na, I probably say the same.

Speaker 7 (01:13:20):
There's not much that about Nick that kind of pisses
me off. I think we see eye on a lot
of things. And I was like struggling to think of
a pet peeve. I was like, and then when he
said that, I was like, Yeah, actually that does piss
me off. Yeah, that does piss me off. Seeing basketball
plays up there, tolking be tougher.

Speaker 6 (01:13:43):
I'm not about to run up on a Ben Wallace
back in the day or or Rashid Wallace. Yeah you
know what I'm saying. Those guys are big. So do
you understanding?

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Talk to me about big domm security guard domb. He
had us in the corner, telling us the biggest war stories.
I think I've ever heard a good power to the
point where I'm thinking to myself, they ain't know way
half this stuff is true. But he seems like he's Yeah,
he might be connected.

Speaker 6 (01:14:08):
Yeah, he kind of. He has a Joey Diaz kind
of or to him to me, Yeah, yeah he does
has his storytelling is like really, you know, you get
into it. It's super funny. But uh, yeah, no, he's
been here for twenty something years, eight years. He's dealt
with a lot of a lot of personalities on the team. Yeah,

(01:14:31):
but he's pretty damn busy. He is what he is
A lot of it's getting passports that are lost drivers.
I mean this whole you know, Uh, when they did
the driver's license, you won't know, but did you I
had to do that? You had to well I didn't
know if that if you got yours to.

Speaker 7 (01:14:48):
Get to stop from the bottom, get my penms you
guys call a penmit like that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
Yeah, how was that?

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
I was getting the car with that guy?

Speaker 7 (01:14:56):
I mean it was it was easy to go to
one his penmant and got my license. But yeah, what
car did you did you drive? I drive in a
Uh it was like a small little hatchbacks.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
A lot of guys.

Speaker 6 (01:15:09):
I put up an little hatchback those cones.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
I failed my permit test three times. The written person
portion Cobby. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:15:16):
And then but that dress.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Did my life as I was seventeen, though it was
kind of a bummer, kind of on that one.

Speaker 7 (01:15:24):
I kind of just I tried to wing it. Yeah,
I didn't fail. I failed the first time, just gonna
try to wing it. And I was like, Okay, I
guess I'll study the book.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
You get that little last book.

Speaker 7 (01:15:32):
Yeah, oh my god, it's just ridiculous reading every page
every night, and this is tough.

Speaker 6 (01:15:40):
And then possibly the second time I think I was
with it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
Yeah, when was the first time that everybody knew you
could sing?

Speaker 6 (01:15:46):
Uh? Probably the rookie telling show.

Speaker 5 (01:15:48):
Yeah they do.

Speaker 6 (01:15:50):
You was just sitting there and all, yeah, he needs
a uh, he needs a promoter. Hey, we gotta, we gotta. Yeah,
what he did last night should have been I guess
they got recorded there. But yeah, that was very impressive.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Bro had We had a rookie one year in like
twenty and fifteen or sixteen, and he started singing John Legend,
playing on the guitar, singing John Legend. Dude started team
shut the lights off, phones came out, lights up. It's
incredible when somebody's out there and they got some They
got some real vocals.

Speaker 6 (01:16:18):
That's what happened, You know how it's like real playful
in the beginning. As soon as you start singing, everybody
get real quiet.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
Yeah, it breaks throughout camp. We'd be in the hotel
and he'd just be around playing the guitar, singing songs.
The boys got you doing that?

Speaker 7 (01:16:32):
Yeah, lotok, guitar, locker room guitar, community guitar in the
locker room.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Yeah, you can play a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
We just have a karaoke a little bit karaoke.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
What was it like filming that Christmas album before you
answer that question? Two years before you guys came out
with that. I went to Will and I was like,
we should do a Christmas album.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
He can't get up. It's true.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
I was like, we should do a Christmas album.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
We're in Nashville.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
We should get a bunch of people and do a
Christmas It'd be unbelievable, it was, you know, yeah, we'll
looking do it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
Hard to get everybody to come to Nashville record a song.
And we were in the earlier stage. We weren't we
weren't operating.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
But wouldn't you know, build Off Eagles come out with
an album and I was punching air. Happy for you guys,
Happy for you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
I was so sick, So we should do that, And Buddy,
I don't. I don't know what you want me to do?
Do it next time?

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Too late to do it, No, it's too late. We're
gonna have to do something different now. I got to
figure out a way to be original. But what was
that experience? Who came up with the idea of Jason?

Speaker 6 (01:17:28):
Yeah, I mean we obviously he can sing. Jason loved
to sing. I love the bullshit and sing.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
You can sing a little bit now, don't see by
yourself with that voice.

Speaker 6 (01:17:36):
Yeah, I'm mid, I'm very mid. But the anxiety level
was like worse than like before a game, because at
least I've had some practice, like you know, you have
what you have. But the first time we did after
after a couple of shots, we actually felt kind of fun.
You kind of lost track of the camera stuff. But uh, Charlie,
just I felt like they're they had like a good chemistry.

(01:17:58):
Just getting the set and you know, the how the
albums look, just all that that came with it. It
was hard getting us all together before I mean, all happened.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
And George's out there he's going nationally.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
See is it Charlie the gray hair guy.

Speaker 6 (01:18:14):
It's like, yes, yes, just feeling it. Yes, he was there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Holy, he was there.

Speaker 6 (01:18:20):
It was very like theastrical he's he was He made
the whole project.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Were you so fired up to just show out?

Speaker 5 (01:18:27):
Now?

Speaker 6 (01:18:27):
Man? I was just thinking, this is my comfort zone
for me. It was just I think they. I think
Charlie heard. You know, I don't know. They've been here
to listen to what he didn't here. But whenever he
started singing, They're like, holy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Yeah, is that something you might want to do after
the ball is over.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
We'll see, man, we'll see what do you I was
gonna say, how much longer? How much longer you having
the tank? How long do you want to play?

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
You got to make twenty?

Speaker 6 (01:18:51):
We win it all this year? Hey, I could be
done this year. That's how I feel.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
But it's on the horizon a little bit, the mortality
of yourself.

Speaker 6 (01:18:59):
Yes, yeah, just just because there's obviously football, the career
is done. But you know you're getting to live or
you know life, that's you know, everything you work for
you're getting to enjoy now. But like whenever you're in it,
you remember what it's like. Just you're constantly working and
you know, and that's how I feel when I'm in it.
But no, I'm definitely looking you know, next, next couple

(01:19:20):
of years. I signed for two, so really this and
next and really evaluate it. But yeah, if we win
it all this year, it could be you know, last ever. Know,
you never know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
But yeah, but you operating a high level exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:19:32):
Hey, but yeah, where do you go from there? I mean,
do you guess?

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
You know?

Speaker 6 (01:19:37):
Yeah, just go back to being a guy.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
Yeah, you know, how long do you want to play?

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
If you had a crystal ball microphone in your hand.

Speaker 6 (01:19:46):
I'm good with ten, man, I'm good with ten right now?

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
I want to Well, so you guys are drawing lines
in the sand right now.

Speaker 7 (01:19:53):
We'll see. Man, I just want to get through this,
uh this contract. I think like three to four years left. Yeah,
from there, finish out this one and.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
When you get done, when you move back to Australia.

Speaker 6 (01:20:04):
Yeah. My wife's American, so hell yeah, fuck the game.
Like when when you want to retire, kind of like
in in the off season, you kind of like, hey,
I'll play to twenty more years. And then when you
have a few days of camp. You're like, fuck this, man,
I got fucking yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
Somebody hell they want to play.

Speaker 6 (01:20:19):
Dude, fuit yeah, yeah, we'll get what.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
We'll do this again in like March once we like
you'll just be like fuck it, dude, all play five more.
I'll play because it would be awesome to see you
make twenty That's only many years, dude, it's only seven more,
twenty ninety nine club, that's we get to be ninety
eight next year, ninety seven.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
Like you got a lot of remember my name at
the end of it, you're becoming yourself landed.

Speaker 6 (01:20:43):
Yeah, just Lane just.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Wheeling around the wheels like he was a stud.

Speaker 6 (01:20:46):
I'm telling you now entertain this for a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
Brother.

Speaker 6 (01:20:51):
Good job.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Boys, he We appreciate your time. Man, we'd love another. Yeah.
Best Philly in Philly cheese steaks.

Speaker 7 (01:21:03):
Sorry Philly, best Philly cheese teaking Philly. I'm a Jim's
guy gyms.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
Are you big the road right here? Are you a
big Philly cheese steak guy? Or do you feel like
they're overrated? Man?

Speaker 6 (01:21:19):
Speaking truth yourself, Well, he's set me up.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
No, No, I think Philly cheese steaks.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Trying to get your ass right now.

Speaker 7 (01:21:28):
Noue cheese steak. Man, it was just I think it's
a good meal. From time to time, I don't eat it.
You know, every week chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
Fried steak or Philly cheese steak.

Speaker 6 (01:21:36):
She's son of a bitch.

Speaker 7 (01:21:38):
You just had yesterday nice on top of that day yesterday,
I'm gonna go chicken fried steak.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
Get Philly chicken as a lane. We'd have chicken fried
steak every Tuesday in high school with rolls, mashed potatoes everything.
I'd make a little sandwich out of it. We would
be corn potatoes. We have chicken rice, chicken fried steak
and a roll. I peel off the roll, put everything
in between.

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Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
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Speaker 5 (01:22:22):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
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