Josh Jacobs On Raiders Fall Out, Nick Saban Vs Jon Gruden, Packers Outlook + Growing Up Homeless

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ladies, gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Busting with the Boys',
episode three hundred and twenty seven. Our guest today is
none other than Josh Jacobs. Josh Jacobs play at Alabama,
gets drafted by the Raiders. This guy ends up going
from the Raiders to the Packers. He's done a lot
of different media lately, but one thing he really dives
into with Busting with the Boys is his fallout that

(00:21):
he had with the Raiders. Talks about his conversations with
Max Crosby, the higher up guys, different kind of situations
where he feels like he was playing situations like some
guy talking to him that's hired up with the Raiders,
on a phone call with somebody who is a reporter
so they can hear the conversation. Very fun, exciting, dude.
You learn so much about this guy and what he

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had to go through, the trials and tribulations in order
to be successful. Where he's at is truly almost could
call it a miracle. Now, before we start this episode,
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Speaker 1 (01:48):
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Speaker 2 (03:59):
Now.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
In the back of the bus as always, Garrett Hagis
is sitting in the back right now. We got JP
sitting in the back. We got Mitch Carsley running the
sticks over there and Jack McPherson jumping back in to
his old spot running the computer A little bit comfortable,
Nice and comfortable.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I hope you're having fun.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
In Texas Shirm, two young little birds came with us, Dude.
They flew down from an arbor mission. They are interning
with us for the next seven days. They've already jumped
in a little bit. They've had their leader, their captain,
Jared Beeman, has been taking care of them since yesterday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Right, are you gonna introduce them or should they introduce themselves?

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:38):
You can introduce themselves like name, position age or like
with the with the with the rookie r The rookies
have to do their signing bonus. Should we do there
in IL?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Absolutely, if they you know, if they feel comfortable, We'll
start with Tom Hardy on the left and we can
go JJ McCarthy on the right.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
All right, Yeah, give me that last name one more time.

Speaker 6 (05:08):
I'm Niko Andrew Ghetto and junior at Michigan. I'm a
safety m number thirty one on the football team three
and oh against Ohio State U two and oh against Nebraska.
My n IL signing bonus is zero dollars because I'm
a walk on fine grinder. Yeah, just excited to be here.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
All right, all right, where we're from? Where are we from?

Speaker 6 (05:35):
I'm from Barria, California.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Barry A, California.

Speaker 7 (05:38):
Okay, all right, all right, I'm Bryce Wilcox. I'm from
Patrie City, Georgia. I play football as well with with ghetto.
I play receiver. I was a converted, uh, defensive back
who now plays receiver. And uh, my n io is

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Z zero o dollars same as same as Nico because
I'm a walk on.

Speaker 8 (06:03):
But it's it's good, it's good to be here. We're excited.
And uh, yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Can tell the boys went through the media process in college.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, a couple of grands. They'll be with us for
this entire week.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
The entire week. And so the boys at Bay Area.
What made you go to Michigan? What was what was that?

Speaker 2 (06:19):
That was gonna be my question? Well, with you guys
Georgia and yeah, West Coast and walking on at the
University of Michigan.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
Well, I was actually planning on going to Columbia University
in New York to play IVY League football. That didn't
really work out and then brain, no, that's why, that's why.
But my older my older brother, lucas Andre Guetto played
running back at Michigan, and when the whole Columbia thing

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fizzled out, I ended up like asking him to send
coach Harball in my film and then he was like, yeah,
you can play be a walk on here. So I
ended up going to Michigan and uh as a dB
and then within the first week was switched to running
back cause we had no walk on or no scout
running backs, so I had never played offense before.

Speaker 8 (07:05):
So did that for a year? Did not work out
very well. They flipped me back to DV.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
And then been there for since since my sophomore year
with coach Klink.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, let's go, dogg outstanding, outstanding, you.

Speaker 8 (07:20):
Do it all right?

Speaker 7 (07:21):
So uh, growing up, I can always I watched Michigan
because my one of my best friends, his dad'side of
the family was all Michigan fans and his mom's side
of the family was all Ohio of State fans. So
we'd always watched Iron Bowl things like that at home
and went over there to his house. And I mean

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when I like twenty thirty people come to this game
just to go watch this at this kid's house, So
going over there, I was like, holy crap.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
They don't.

Speaker 8 (07:50):
They don't play around up north about football. So I'm like,
all right.

Speaker 7 (07:53):
Uh So that's that's when I first kind of looked
into Michigan, and then I was originally committed to Nave
my whole senior year, went and visited and it was
it's not for everybody.

Speaker 8 (08:06):
Yeah, it's tough. It's tough.

Speaker 7 (08:07):
So I had a buddy go there the year before
and he was telling me, like, you don't want to
do this. Everything is military, there's no football, everything is
mill This kid was like two forty and see him
six months later.

Speaker 8 (08:22):
He weighed one.

Speaker 7 (08:23):
It's a defensive vent and I'm like, what are they
doing to you? He's that we get up five am ron,
uh just march around campus. And I was like, all right,
I got to figure something belts out. So I hit
a couple of camps after my senior year and got
lucky and they reached out.

Speaker 8 (08:39):
Yeah that's how I ended up there.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Let's fuck love, Oh dude, let's go good for the boys.
Man stoke to obviously shout out Chris Brian He's the
one that facilitated this whole thing. Reached out to me
just before we went to Michigan for the spring tour.
So I got two young hungry dogs that want to
come and do an internship with you guys, and we
have like pussed around with the idea of doing an internship.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, we've messed with it, and yeah, well there's been
a lot of people to reach out. We just ever
kind of dipped their doing it. But knowing that this
was like a week long, they approached us face to face, resume.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
In hand, resume in hand. We were literally in the
middle of the the what the we were working?

Speaker 2 (09:10):
We were about to either work out or we just
got done.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Now, and know we were about to I don't think
we were we would have been able to talk true
kind of conversation. Yeah, yeah, so we're about to get
a work out. You guys hand us a Manila folder
with everything in there. How long did you guys work
on that?

Speaker 6 (09:23):
Uh So, Actually, since Bryce Underwood committed to Michigan, I
kind of found a tie between Barstool and Michigan, and
since then I've been emailing you guys and Barstool asking
for to do an internship over and over again. I
think I sent around like sixty emails in total since
uh once I found out you guys were doing the

(09:43):
Spring college for and you guys are coming to Michigan.

Speaker 8 (09:46):
I was like, I got to talk to somebody, and.

Speaker 6 (09:48):
Then I remembered that you were Chris Byron's o V host,
and so I asked him to call you and ask
you about it, and then from there on it was
kind of just like, let's go. But we worked on
our dock for about three weeks four weeks before we
got to you guys, and then got lucky with somemectric
card stock laying around and printed it out and had

(10:08):
it made it all nice for you guys, and that's good.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Let's fucking go. Man, did you read it?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, yeah we do. We do a good hard look
at that. Didn't We did background checks on them and everything. Yeah,
called a couple of people, Yeah, he did, picked off
young Underwood. Had to feel good, right, you know, and
the boy know your future bosses were sitting there watching
you just being like, took that almost look into the
house too. Took a thud from Bryce though he did.
He did kind of one of my kids to do.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
We're wearing short.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
I'm just saying think so.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
I actually told by our other walk on safety Max Reyes.
Before practice, I was like, I gotta, I gotta get
picked today in front of these voice.

Speaker 8 (10:45):
Let's and it worked out. Well.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Promise has made, Promises delivered. Well, we're stoked to have
you guys. Man. It's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, it's gonna help us too because we've again Taylor
was saying it, but we've always thought about it. We've
just never like executed on doing it. So you guys
are a good like trial run threat out this week
because we are looking at doing like summer internships. We
then locally, Yeah, we're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. Yeah,
We're gonna Yeah. I'm always cautious about it, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm a dive in.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
We will be doing intern a summer internship. Yes, we
will be doing Jared Beeman will.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Be running the interns. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
The entire time, we wanted Jared to do a complete
like presentation in front of all of us today for
you guys, but he snuck in Sunday and gave you.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
He still did a presentation. But yeah, he got around
it a little bit by meeting up with him yesterday
bringing him to the bus and talking with him about everything.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Seems like Jerry had a tough weekend. To Mitch, Carson
had himself a little party at the house and he stiffed, you.

Speaker 9 (11:42):
Yeah, it was Friday.

Speaker 10 (11:43):
We were I it was my girlfriend's birthday this week,
so we were having a little like birthday party for
Saturday at my house.

Speaker 9 (11:52):
And told all the boys. I know, G and JP
were out of town.

Speaker 10 (11:55):
Jack was possibly going camping, but and uh Sarm obviously
wasn't here. So I told Jared, Coop and Jack and
Clump those are the boys who were in the shop, like, hey,
we're having a little party at my place, probably gonna
head downtown.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
And they're like, oh yeah, just going downtown always in
the plans.

Speaker 9 (12:15):
For that day. Yes, it was Brook's decision.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
It was her, but the decision happened on the day
or that was kind of the invite. Hey we're going
to start at the house, We're going to go downtown.

Speaker 10 (12:25):
We're going to start at the house, and we're gonna
go from there. With like eighty percent certain that we're
head downtown. It was Brooks day. We're letting her choose
whatever she wanted to do. Told all the fellas Jared's like, oh,
I am in. Jared knows Brooke personally and like they
lived in the same apartment building and all of this.
Jared's like, oh, I'm in, Like my girl just moved
into town. McKenzie wants to meet everybody, like this will

(12:49):
be perfect. So I'm like, all right. I texted Jared Saturday, Hey,
what time you guys rolling through? He texted me back immediately, Ah,
we're doing some errands or taking longer than add Coop
texted me saying he wasn't going to come. Jack texted
me saying he wasn't going to be able to make it.
Clump called me, He's like, yo, I feel so bad,
I'm not going to be able to come. And Jared

(13:11):
like he's going to be the one to come through.
He got two wine drunk or something Friday night.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
On Friday when we were in the shop, he was
even talking about coming yeah, and I'm because we were
talking about Goon and he's like, I'll be coming from Mitches,
So I might be a little sauced up, but he
was committed to going. Yeah, his latest Friday.

Speaker 10 (13:29):
And then what the crazy part is, He's like, we're
setting up stuff around the house. But if you guys
want to come over after being downtown, you're more than welcome.

Speaker 9 (13:36):
Like, Jared, what are we doing?

Speaker 4 (13:40):
And what are we doing?

Speaker 5 (13:41):
So?

Speaker 9 (13:42):
Yeah, none of the boys didn't end up showing up.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Seems like it seems like a tough, tough wee.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
I wish it ended there, and I hate to do
this to Jared with him not being on the bus. Mitch,
what time was the party? I get a text from
Jared maybe around one or two? He out there.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, just walked up and sitting there listening.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
Jared. I'm sorry, and Jared, it's honesty hour. I get
a text from Jared that afternoon he says, Hey, are
you even sitting around? Y'all want to come over and
watch the Kentucky Derby in the middle of the afternoon? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (14:26):
Not good?

Speaker 5 (14:27):
And hearing about how this is all going down with Mitch.
I'm thinking back to my text. I'm like, no way
the way Jared would do this, but he did, but
he did.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Post came You're going to Broadway. There's no postgame.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
There's invited everybody over, when Mitch had already invited everybody
over for his girlfriend's birthday party that you said yes
to go. I know I said you didn't go because
you you drank a full bottle of wine on Friday,
stayed up a little late, slept until, slept in until
noon on Saturday, and then had the audacity to then
invite everybody that was already invited to Mitch's party to

(15:03):
your house to watch the Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Party.

Speaker 11 (15:07):
It's not justified. What I would say is, yeah, I
fucked up. I slept in Saturday. I wanted to get
my chores done. Earlier chores come first. Mitch had the pregame.
I texted him, or I guess he texted me first.
I wasn't gonna be able to make it. Then they
were already out earlier than I thought. So then when
I realized they were out, that's pretty early for going out.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
No, well, I.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Guess it's the middle of the day.

Speaker 11 (15:31):
So once I heard they were out, I was like,
I'm definitely not hitting Broadway, but post game could be
my house. No one had brought up a post game,
not a bad spend zone on this pregame, going out
postgame my place, I rest my case. No one had
nothing to say when I said that, I do apologize.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
I fucked up.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
I mean, I don't have them.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
I don't understand. You could have just said I.

Speaker 11 (15:57):
But then I thought it was a nice little It
wasn't like a pity that. It was just like, oh yeah,
and I kind of want to watch the Derby later,
y'all want to come. I spent the whole day doing
the yard. Love to have the boys over.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
We'll make it right.

Speaker 11 (16:08):
I did have some people over, and then we had
a fun little Derby party, ma'am.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
There was a post game.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
That is just imagine Bro Taylor's birthday. You invite me,
I'm committed to going. I sleep in and I'm like, hey,
I'm not going to make it, and then in the
middle of it, I'm inviting everybody at your party over
to my house.

Speaker 11 (16:27):
If I didn't give Mitch the text that I would
bail you that, oh yeah, I ended up having a
party that day.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, we'd be we'd have we'd have a sitting down conversation.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, oh yeah, he did. I wasn't going to bring
that up. Yeah he wanted. He did for Warren that
he'd be a little sauced up. Coop also bailed, so
once it was two. Once both of them bailed, it
was kind of like there's nothing you can really say.
I was gonna go and people were over.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
People were over because you invited them over. Yes, said
you had plans with will people to come over over.
And they're like, oh, I'm no longer going to goon.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
No, I'm not putting you did nothing.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
I'll do everything this.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
You take all the fault.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
I take all the fault.

Speaker 11 (17:06):
I missed my prior plans because I got a little
sauced on Friday. So then I was trying to make
it up. I was like, cause, like there's like Mackenzie's like, well,
I thought we make it up to who myself? Like
I just lost a Saturday, Like I already fucked up,
Like I didn't have a like do what I want today?
I was like just doing ship in the yard. I
mean it was fun, but it wasn't day drinking. So

(17:27):
I was like, got a night drink. Now, invited some
people over, went to a tie place, got some good food,
some good drinks. They came back over. It was a
fun Saturday for for me sleeping in and missing the
party I wanted to go to.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
We're glad you had fun, man, Mitch.

Speaker 11 (17:42):
We're sorry, brother, Hey, I apologize, I'm in the wrong.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
I apologize.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Let's keep the bad news going. All I'm out, Good job, Jerrem,
Let's keep the bad news going. Will Compton doesn't watch
hockey at all, doesn't dive into it. The Four Nations tournament,
he starts to kind of dabble. Hey, this is kind
of interesting. It is kind of cool. I'm trying to
tell Will because my brother, he played junior hockey. He
was all about it, played the ice and actually played
Austin Matthews back in the day. And then all of

(18:08):
a sudden, the Saint Louis Blues are in a Game
seven and.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Paid game six. When it started, when I started to oh,
when he started to dip the toe because the Blues
were down, they were down in the series. I was like, man,
it'd be cool if they could like win the first
round because I knew that they went on like a
like a record streak to get into the playoffs.

Speaker 9 (18:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
But yeah, it started to the Predators last year. Similar
to the Predators, Saint Louis Is down or Saint Louis
Is up to to one game seven three one three
one end up coming back and scoring with what less
than three seconds left, Yeah, to go into overtime.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, it was like less than two seconds when they
hit that Ricky shot. What do they call it? Top shelf?

Speaker 1 (18:47):
They call that top shelf.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Rick Ricka shot in the top shelf.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
End up going to two overtimes. While Will is watching this,
he's tweeting out, if they make it to the second round,
I gotta go back to bonb tayor we'll get some
whatever pizza place he's always talking abouts, go catch a
couple of things.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
And what do they do?

Speaker 1 (19:04):
They shit the bed. Will Compton decides to put his
name behind a team and they shit the bed.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
The reason I was doing that too, like I was
trying to build it up because somebody from the Blues
hit me up. Gruden had went over the weekend to
the Blues and Cardinals, and I was tweeting about, like,
you know, sharing his stuff because he's going to the
Saint Louis spots, He's going to the Saint Louis teams.
I'm like, oh, I didn't know he loved the Blues
like that. So I'm like giving that love. And somebody
from the Blues hit me up. They're like, hey, if

(19:30):
we win Game seven, we would love to have you
out in round two next weekend when it's at when
it's in Saint Louis. Damn. And I'm like, he's like,
I know you're a bond ter guy. Used to have
a place on Turtlake, Tartarlac Lake TDL shout out the
Boys and Turtle Lac and so we were connecting over that.
But he's like, we'd love to have you out for
a game in Saint Louis in round two. It's I'm

(19:51):
fired up because it's like, oh, that'd be easy flight,
easy thing to go to.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, and a fun time too. Fun time off hockey
is so hard to beat through the atmosphere unreal and
the boys just go fucking hard the entire time.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah. And so I placed a bet on fan duel
with game six. We won that money line and it's like, man,
they could. They whooped their ass too. In Game six.
It's like, man, if they pull this off, they're up
three to one. I had bet on them right before
the game, and so I started to put the you know,
if they win, start to start to build it.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
On the car before the horse.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Damn.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Well, bro, I'm.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Watching that live. And when they made that shot, I
just said, holy fucking shit.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, when they go to overtime, you I think it's
over right.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, And then the longest overtime, nobody's like scoring. They're
getting shots on goal and everything else. I'm like, look
at these guys. I'm like, bro, teams that have to
go that are that take care of business in their
series and they're resting until the second round. The teams
that are going like having a war all the way
through game seven and going to ot, I'm like, these
boys have to be exhausted out.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, it's crazy how many games a year they play
and they go sit like a seven series and to
start the playoffs should be like best of three, best
of five, best of seven, but they just fucking man.
They rip around all day every day, and it's like
they're always having a couple of beers after the game
doing whatever. Like hockey is such like a traditional like
a lot of booze bags in that league, a lot

(21:16):
of boozebags. But they just go so fucking hard forty
five seconds in their shift. Yeah, playoff hockey is awesome.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
Do you regret the tweet?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
No?

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Come on, I've told you.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
I like, imagine if somebody texts you during the Nebraska
game and they in Nebraska Michigan, y'all are y'all are
up by two, And before Michigan gets the ball, somebody
texts you, Man, if Nebraska wins, we should blank. How
would you feel if you got that text?

Speaker 2 (21:47):
I would just say hold it off. That sounds like
a fun idea, like just hold that thought.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
I'm not thinking it wouldn't bother you because I remember
in the fall I would tweet clear, So that's not
true because in the fall I tweet did something. You
did the eyes smoke thing, didn't he during the fall
the Organ game? But then that's right, the storm, I.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Just did the eyes. I just didn't exactly, but you
were aware enough to just the eyes like, hey, there
might be a storm situation happened in the Organ exactly.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
I won't lie.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
I sent that tweet and I was like, oh, ship right,
because I started the march down the JP makes a comment.
I'm just immediately like in defense mode, like I put
the eyes, like I thought about it before I even
hit tweet.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
You're in the same boat as you are right now.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
I did the if factor. I did the if hey,
but I believe in Jinks. But I'm prefacing it by
saying if they pull it off, I'm not saying they're
gonna pull it off.

Speaker 5 (22:46):
Look, man, I might.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Five. You need to reevaluate you're betting for the boys.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
I feel like everything one Jack could take down the
Chiefs in the Super Bowl. I'm now paying for it
post super Bowl. In everything that we've done March gave
everything everything. Yeah everything?

Speaker 5 (23:07):
Yeah, what did it cost?

Speaker 1 (23:09):
What are we out here chasing? Question?

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (23:11):
We chasing it.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Might be Uh. I think it turns around come football season.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
I think it turns around May sixteen, seventeen, when Jack
and I are back in Vegas.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, but you've been hitting though. This is I'm talking
about my own personal journey.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
I do feel like I've been hitting and I have
it like when I'm like fully in tuned to the
games because I was traveling a lot this week. I
would just place a bet, but I wouldn't tweet. Then
I would lose that bet, and it just happened to
work out that way. Well, we'll see what happens in
this next series with Toronto, because I am kind of
fired up for Toronto. They like one of the the
other one of the original six hockey teams in the NHL,

(23:45):
them and five. I'm not gonna say I, but anyway,
once the uh it's uh Toronto, Boston, I think Detroit,
Montreal is the Rangers, one of them, the Rangers, and
then there's one more, maybe the no Phillies. Not Philly's

(24:08):
not one of the original six. Anyway, this is for
every do it. Okay, yeah, I'll do it. But anyway,
nineteen sixty seven is the last time they won a Cup.
They've had the best record they could ply they've had
since nineteen sixty seven. In the last couple of years
they've gone into the playoffs and then just like just
fumble the back. They have been a team that should

(24:29):
have won the first round, they don't win the first round.
They finally get over that hump of beating Ottawa in
the first round, and I just got this feeling, boys,
I got this feeling the Maple Leafs are gonna take
the Cup this year. And I had it right before
the playoffs, and I'm putting I'm putting my name behind
them for the rest of time, well for the rest
of this year. Then I go back to the Preds immediately.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
The no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I do
have a second team.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Okay, as long as it's not the Maple Leafs were good.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
It's the Capitals. Yeah, okay, that's yeah, Capitals. I just again,
I'm a little gun shy, but I do have a
little bit of equity into in the Capitals being there
in Washington, that the Capitals were the first there's the
first team where I got to experience playoff hockey, and
it is it's unmatched. Playoff hockey is unmatched because I
didn't really go to Blues games growing up. I didn't

(25:16):
really go to any so when I was with the
Redskins like getting to go to Caps games. It is
absolutely sick to be in this atmosphere.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Don't do that.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
N Yeah, but do you want to me to name
another player?

Speaker 1 (25:33):
That's okay. You don't need to know the whole entire
team to put your name behind somebody. As he retired,
he's thirty seven years old.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I had a kid, Come on, come on, hey, Tom Wilson.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Nice, nice, So let's le let's do this on now.
If the Capitol has been there forever too, if the
Capital is in uh in Toronto, make it to the
Eastern Conference. Fine, we gotta go to a game.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
See, we can talk about that.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, anytime kind of travel ata travel. This man is
the hardest.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I literally said, we can talk about that.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, but the way you said, I know you. I've
known you for seven years now, eight years.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
And there's been times where I say, let's talk about it,
we do.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
It, and I just say to myself, Oh, I'm gonna
have to really press him. So I have to know
if I really want to do this, to get this done,
That's why.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
I'd be sick to go to It'd be sick to
go to DC for a Caps.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Game or Toronto for I heard Toronto just goes so hard.
I heard they are all about they like the they
like the Dallas Cowboys in the NHL.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
People just know we can get plugged in with the Caps. Okay,
fair enough. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
I have a zero plug other than FANDOL sportsbook. That's
all I got. What else we got going on? Boys?
We got an ad Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Let's do it.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
I talk about A comment was made too that two
and oh against Nebraska will have to get into that.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Oh yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, we do have some news before we do it.
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Speaker 1 (27:51):
Keep the bad news coming. Michigan lost our president. He dipped.
He went to Florida.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Something's brewing that wait When did he leave.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
I think it was this past week, right, Yeah, he
just he hit the transfer portal, decided to go to Florida.
And this guy he came in made a massive splash.
Everyone's like, dude, this guy is the man, the president.
This dude is like he's gonna be here forever. Everybody
loves him. And then Kevin Bacon, he'd had a nice
couple of comments. He's a guy, he's a professor at Michigan,

(28:20):
has wrote a bunch of books. He's like the biggest
splash you've ever seen as a president with the most
underwhelming departure.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Of all time.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Even his statement was like, Kevin Bacon's word is not mine, insincere.
So he dips goes to Florida. Then all of a sudden,
I gotta wake up this morning to Garrett Hargas sending
me an article saying, uh oh about Searon Moore, your guys,
coach self imposed two game suspension, and he decided to
pick two games, and one of those games happened to

(28:46):
be Nebraska. A bunch of ways you can look at that.
Does he have to do two in a row, or
does he feel that good about Nebraska? That's the question, we'll.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Confident think to legally do two in a row. He
didn't choose week one because we too Oklahoma. He played
at Oklahoma. He wants to coach against Oklahoma.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
And then it's out there that there's a potential for
being a lot more games, and this is Michigan trying
to get ahead of it. So they've hand selected these two.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
How much long are we going to do?

Speaker 5 (29:13):
This is the question you tell us?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, you're right, like NCAA, let's make a decision. Let's
move on, let's move forward. All the coaches have already dipped.
Searon Moore is out there carrying the flag of Michigan.
We beat Ohio State every single year, Like, let's just
what are we doing? Like it's over, it's move on.
We won the Natty, Get over it?

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah you know, yeah. I think they're trying to figure
out the entire punishment for you guys.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
The entire punishment. We've done it. Like the games against
top five teams are the two hardest games, really the
three hardest. I said Maryland was gonna be difficult too,
Penn State, Ohio State. Sharon Moore had to step in
as an interim head coach for those games he had
to find out while they got to pencate the men
they landed Penzate. They old, by the way, you can't
come with us anymore. So he dips. There was a

(29:57):
team in a blender, a team with a bad culture
would have immediately. They ended up going on winning all
three of those games, end up winning the national championship.
Then all the coaches go and dip get out of there.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Okay, so there's now because they know stuff's coming.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Connor Stallions is in high school football now like, and
Searan Moore is self imposing too. It's like, what more
we gonna do? What more do we need to do.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
They're trying to uncover all the details. You gotta trust
the legal process.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
They're kicking a can, is what they're doing. Brother, They're
just kicking a can and it's all good, dude.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
They haven't been able to dial down exactly everything you
guys did because when you cheat and you lie, it
takes a longer time to uncover it all. So there's
been like small punishments, incremental punishments like as it's happened.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
I feel like you're just being nasty.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
No, I'm trying to I'm trying to give you an
unbiased opinion about it.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, they could have cheated, they could have lied. But
I mean we had Connor on here just because he
was like super diligent about everything he did. Does that
mean he cheated.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I mean, you have your conversations with Connor Stallions. I
have my conversations with Connor Sallius. I know there's two
different opinions in here. Well, we won't get into it all.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
But I'll say this, we just keep on going. We
just we were just gonna keep on keeping on.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
That's what we're gonna it. Does bum me out that
Searan Wore is not gonna be there for the bust and.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Ball I know, I know, I know, I know because
it is.

Speaker 12 (31:16):
Other games.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Should we call Searan if you want to?

Speaker 1 (31:21):
No, I'm not gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
If you want to, I'll call him after.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
We'll have a conversation, you.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Know, like like zoom out. It's if he's going to
coach in the Oklahoma game, you want to get the
next two out of the way because you're you're most important.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah season, Yeah, back half the season, and he went
to Oklahoma. That's gonna be a very personal game for him.
He's gonna want that one and it's in Oklahoma. But
are you this year? Huh?

Speaker 2 (31:46):
I have no clue.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
They're stoked on their quarterback, but they've just been getting
worse and worse over the last three years. Venables hot
hot seat, hot seat, mid season hot seat level.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
That's tough.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Is who do you need to look at for some
future stuff? And that might be Florida.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Seriously, they're gonna, Yeah, Flora's gonna be nasty.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
That quarterback what's his name, DJ Way, he's a stud
your guys was president going over there.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
It's kind of like they're he's the study.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
They're building, they're pouring into what could be happening over
these next couple of years.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
God damn. Because they had the hardest schedule in all
college football last year, right.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
Yeah, and bad Way didn't even play most of.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
The year really, and when he started playing, they were good.
They were nice. Bro. It'll be fun too to have
Florida like good in college football because I just you know,
the Tim Tebow day.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah, that's when they were high school in Florida. That's
when were in high school. Was the Tim Tebow Every
kid wanted to be Tim Tebow.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Yeah, they'd have like the they'd have like you know, Nike,
you would work with them on the sleeves where they
have the different color sleeve under their uniform. Yeah, they
were they were fired.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, that blue and orange kind of goes hard to
Kentucky Derby. Did you watch it?

Speaker 2 (32:49):
I watched it a little bit, but I mean we couldn't.
We couldn't put anything on.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah. When you can't, when you can't put money on
something like that, it's tough to just go.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
And yeah, I was watching the horses run a little
little bit. Yeah, I was.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Watching them, watching them gals gallup.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, they're talking about, Oh they're good that the weather
where it rains a little bit. Yeah, I saw because
we draw the hat final game, but I saw that
he was kind of like one of the favorites, so,
oh we might have a we might have a horse.
But I'll be honest with you, I didn't watch it.

Speaker 9 (33:14):
A whole lot.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
I had it on his background noise, but I didn't
like I wasn't like tuned in and locked into it all. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, I'll be honest, I didn't see any of it.
I was in Canada. I don't think they even know
what horses are up there. It just didn't work out
for me up there. Yeah, it didn't.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
What I think they should do is if it's bad
weather like that, they should postpone because I want to
see the horses at their best.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Uh hell, do you just post all the people show up?

Speaker 5 (33:41):
I mean, I'm just saying, if this is the big
marquee event of the year, I want to see everyone
at their best.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
But there's something about horses running as fast as they can,
slinging mud, and the jockeys that are just covered in mud.
When they're all finished up, one of them is crying
because they want the other ones were crying because they lost.
There's something about that.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
I feel you, But I want to see the horses.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah you want.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
I mean, do you just postpone every football game when
it's raining.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
It's different.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Everyone just does indoor.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
And it's like the training that these horses do, like
they get taken care of, like they're just supreme athletes. Like, yeah,
there's gonna be some adversity, it's not gonna be it's
not gonna be a beautiful day every time you step
on the course.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
What is wild? Does every every horse in the Kentucky
Derby was a descendantive secretariat, which is dope. Yeah, if
I knew a lot more about horses, I'd be a
lot more fired up about that situation, a lot more
fired up. But that's the Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
It was hard for me to watch too, because we
uh ruin to a birthday party over the weekend, and
so we got home after that birthday party and she
wanted to essentially like foster this balloon. She named it Bapa,
and so we had to play with this balloon like
all afternoon when we were putting her down.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
There kids in balloons, man, I still understand she would
have to put the balloon down for bed.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
It was an entire thing.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
Would you pop it?

Speaker 2 (35:01):
No? No, I was terrified. I'm like, hey, sweetheart, we
can't let this balloon pop, like it will.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
Just like sometimes things die.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah, let them know.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Charles trying to tell her like, hey, sweetheart, like it's
not a human, it doesn't have a heartbeat, because she's
just like if she can't put the if she can't
put bob Bob down for bed for bedtime, and like
give it a hug. She's like, I love bob Ba,
And she was just like hugging it, trying to give
it kisses and three squeezes.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
What about this balloon was there had to be a
lot of balloons at this party.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
There was a lot of balloons, but she was playing
with the one. She wanted to take one home, and
when she took it home, she wanted it to do
everything that she was doing. She wanted that like you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, kids always have it, but of picking like the
most fragile thing. Yeah that is. Yeah, they just the
balloon situations so wild because when wind would have wind
or will it whenever their birthday is, we obviously put
a lot of balloons down. We're just like, you know,
blow them up. They're lay on the ground. They all
get so fired up, and so you got to distract
and when we just assassinate, you know, and then they

(36:01):
go to Batti take got like ten more, and then
the next day you take got a couple more.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
It's just they just get fascinated with the most random things.
Like we'll be at the park and she wants to
take this leaf home and she wants to leave the
slit her in the car.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
What's going through that brain for that to happen? It's
crazy leaf, Do you want to eat some food? And
she'd be like, shout out kids, man, yeah, shout out kids.
All right, what we got? We feel good?

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Oh? Hey, did you see the uh did you see
Dave Fortnoy's video about the juice? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Bro, that shit is nuts, Like, who the fuck would
do that?

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Like, I mean, I mean we got some fucked up people.
Like people are gonna do that, especially kids like twenty
something year olds that are drunk in a bar and
they think it's funny.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
What's funny? But they might have race.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Like in their world, they might have like an ideology
that is like fuck the juice, so they think it's
funny to do something like that. We see a lot
of fucked up stuff. It's like, is it surprising? No,
but I do think it is they mess with the
wrong one, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
And sending them any logical Yeah, let's just let's just
say in a world where it's okay, like that joke
is funny in whatever world, why go to the barstool
bar and do that? Why? Like we're Dave Portinoy, who
is like who is Jewish proud of being Jewish, was
at the UFC in Miami calling what's his name Bright. Yeah,

(37:20):
Bryce Mitchell and Nazi and waving a Jewish flag. You're
gonna go into that guy's bar and you're gonna put
the Jews on. They were what they were doing, you think?

Speaker 5 (37:30):
So, yeah, for sure. I mean the fact that you see.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
The photos of these dudes.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
No, I haven't seen the photos, but I saw Dave's
three and a half minute rant about how you got
one girl on the phone talking how dumb she is.
She's like, can I call you back? He's like no,
like these people getting fired. Guys are on the phone
with him crying like please, like the.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Guys who are doing it. He's like, you have one
hour to me. Feel like you're trying to make this right.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
But how do you like, what do they do?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Nothing?

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Like, what can you do? You're cooked?

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Imagine being on Dave Portnoy's bad side is one thing?
Like be actually be on Dave's bats That is not
a bad thing. It's when Dave hates you.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
And he hates these kids.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, he's just he's a ruiner of lives.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
He can do it, dude.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
But imagine being the manager or the bottle girl, whoever
it was that was placing it on like he was
ready to go, and no one sat there in the
back room and go, are we sure about this?

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Guys?

Speaker 2 (38:20):
I think he was saying that one of the girls
was like one of the waitresses was trying to push
back a little bit, but ultimately it still went through
because you're right. It's like when you're sent together, it's like, hey, guys,
we're not doing that. And then the culture of what
you guys can't get out of here right now anyway, Yeah,
and the.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Culture of like clubs and the sparkler's going off, everyone
just so fucking fired up. Yeah, fuck the juice clip that.

Speaker 12 (38:45):
The video of it that no one in the booth
actually like looks stoked. They're all kind of like, oh fuck,
you can tell they thinking.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
Some of the other.

Speaker 12 (38:53):
People are like, this is not right.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Could you imagine the one that's as dumb as decisions
you can make.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Being the one girl in there that's pushing back a
little bit, you know, like in that culture of like
clubs and bars and bottle surface and all that, like
everyone's kind of like trying to be mister cool guy.
She's like, hey, maybe we shouldn't do this, and she
probably got, you know, made.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Fun of for it.

Speaker 12 (39:11):
You gotta be the one that's like.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
You gotta be you gotta be the one who always
had a history.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yes, and the fact that they thought it was cool
like what losers. Yeah, imagine like twenty twenty years from now,
they're like setting you know, a fire pit, or they're
sitting with some friends and somebody asked a question like
what's the you know, they ask like some deep question
like what's the biggest lesson you've learned in life? And
they're like, I gotta sit down, Like, hey, I got
a story for you. When I was twenty something years old,

(39:40):
I did this fuck did juice sign and the owner
of the bar was Dave Portnoy. Everybody's like what And
then you're like he sent me to Auschwitz for however long.
They're going to get educated to learn about whatever it is,
and it's like that's their learning moment. They're like, I've
been sober ever since, Like I haven't drake since.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
I was just sitting there like, hey, is there anybody
Jewish here? No, I'll tell the story like it's just
that shit is crazy, man.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah, yeah, they fucked up of all the people too.
Did you see do you guys known as Bilzarian getting
his comments.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
And Dave's yeah, what's what's.

Speaker 9 (40:21):
He up to?

Speaker 2 (40:21):
You know, Dan Bolzerian's on the complete other side.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, yeah, he's on the he's about that sign.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, he's about that sign.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
And then one of them I think he said like
you look like you sound like a bitch, or he
said something to him, and then that he wrote up
another thing. How about synonym here to learn about X,
Y and Z. But Basian was like in a couple.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Of them days in the camp of like maybe the
hall cost didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
That's it's either that or he's like this other thing
happened before that. That's way worse and way bigger. But
nobody talks about it because all this deep historical conspiracy.
I have no clue. I truly have zero clue. He fights,
he fights the war on the like the other side.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
I know. I wonder what pieces of information he saw
where he likes, like, I truly believe this now, Ban
He's not the guy I'm going to ask for advice
on things you.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Want to have, like a good oh ship. Scroll just
go to Dan Bolzerian's profile and like scroll through his
replies him replying to certain things.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
He's just gone crazy.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
You remember seeing him at UFC.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
He just looked like an action bigger he did. He
looked like a small soldier. He looked like that, dude.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, Chip, hey, Chip Hazard from small soldiers. Yes, small
like like two and a half in sam shorts, like
just yeah, he was just a ball of muscle, a
ball of Jewish hating muscle. Yeah, you sound like a bitch.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
That is crazy, yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, So I ended up having so these kids are
actually going to Aschwitz, I think, so actually traveling to Germany,
going to Auschwitz and and figuring out I mean, that's
kind of who's paying for it.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
They they even I think that what they're to do
is make it as like Red Eye as possible to
where it's like they're not lie there. They go there,
do the tour and then fly back like right after
you want to.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, because always working with Robert Kraft from New England,
they have the program or something to where they're tapping
into that.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
To do it, you got to put them on spirit
over there. Oh yeah, yeah, put them on the boat.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah. You after we get off this bust, you gotta
go see photos of these dudes.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yeah, I think for the next half an hour after
we got off this bus, I'll be looking at Dan
Baseoian reply comments.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
What these kids are up to?

Speaker 1 (42:37):
What do these kids look like?

Speaker 5 (42:38):
They they look like exactly how you think they'd look.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
I think shaped heads.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
No, no, no, not like that.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
I don't know what kind of kind of cat like here.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
It seems like they've had like work done.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
Tony whoa to.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Well, you gotta take a shot at Tony.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
He's the man.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Stop stop you guys keep doing this. He's gonna want
to actually do something.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
When on that note, though, was Battle Camp still top
ten on Netflix? When do we know season for a second?
A second season?

Speaker 6 (43:14):
So?

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Uh, Usually they do numbers on seven days, which we
we were told it's doing great, But twenty eight days
is when we'll know if they're like, Okay, we're going
to do a season two or not. So I'm kind
of just sitting limbo and just wait. But then I
think to myself, like, when would we ever do this?
Like with our schedule, am I going to be able
to go and host something for a month.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
It's a it's been a sick it's been a sick concept.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
The finale is awesome for I'm not gonna spoil it
for anybody, but y'all need to watch the finale.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Is it good?

Speaker 5 (43:43):
Oh yeah? I love the challenges, mane. The challenges are
so creative.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
I love the spelling Bee.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
They had Taylor running the spelling Bee, gonna do a.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Spelling be I thought, I literally think, I thought about
you guys. It was like, when they see this, they're
the last run spelling b But those words were crazy.

Speaker 5 (44:02):
Crazy easy. He misspelled quail.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yeah, he was like they were like quail.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
He was like, damn and did shoot.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Onm like her? He spelled a completely different word heard.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
They asked him spelled ecosystem. He thought they said echo
echosystem and then my brains maybe through the match, but
maybe not. Yeah, Taylor spelled advantage A D VAN V
A N T A g E. You get better.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Come on, because all those words are saying. It was
basically waiting for that question. I was like, quail q
q U A I L not that hard ecosystem. You
guys don't want to worry about ecosystem. We're sellid on
that one E C O S Y S T E M.
Come on, now, you cookie it's just what it is. Man.

(44:52):
We got to know these words, guys, but it was
a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
If you do another season, they should let us come
up with They should let bust and come up with
a challenge.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
If we do another season, I want someone from the
bus in the show.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
If they don't allow it, they should let you.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
If somebody on the on the Bus got to be
on the show, Jared Beeman.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
He wouldn't be able to handle it.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
That's my top two votes would be JP or Jack.
I think they will because Jared could easily get voted
out immediately, and I feel like Jack will do a
good job athletically enough. They're good team players. I think
they would be solid.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
I think Jared might be Jared's That's what I'm saying
that the characters. The characters on the show, it's like
you being the host. The concept is awesome. You have
all these things, and then you just have cameras on
these just different types of people outside of Tony. It's
not like you're showing up to watch these people do
a show, but you end up kind of like loving

(45:51):
it because there they all have these quirks, and I
just think Jared would be so funny. Bro. Whether he's
overthinking it, it doesn't matter. You just let jaredy.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Just let Jared. But would Jared show himself because he
doesn't even want to be on the back of the
bus podcast. He doesn't want to be on camera.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
That's the best part.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
The only Yeah, Jared would crush. We would just have
to be there for him when he returns in the
months leading up to the show coming out, because you
know he'd be met unraveling a little bit. Yeah, Like, now, Jared,
trust me, everyone is going to like you.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Just everyone's gonna like you. It comes out like who
it was tough?

Speaker 5 (46:27):
Why were you deeming jaredy?

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (46:29):
No, but it was well thought of. I love the
like with the wheel, like you'll kind of run it
like it's a vote, Like it's got all these different
nuances to like kind of the gaming aspect of it
to where some chance some it's like, you know, people
know who's voting for who, maybe they don't know who's
voting for who, and then ultimately it doesn't matter because
then it's like up to the fate of the wheel, right,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (46:49):
If your name's in there. One time that we saw
a couple of times in the.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Game, right, like those couple of episodes where somebody voted
on one person, it just fills up, and then somebody
who's just on their once goes home and it just
shocks everything. And then leaking into that afterwards, everybody knows
like damn, they were going for me the whole time, right,
and it starts building up all these storylines with trying
to go after each other.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
That's what I was impressed by Avery, because Avery, in
the beginning of the show was the one that she was.
It was her and Irena or her and Lexi. In
the first Wheel.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
Ceremony, I forgot about Irena.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Yeah, yeah, I had a tough showing, but uh yeah,
Avery was like voted for a bunch and then all
of a sudden, she just like did a great job
of like going under the radar because I didn't know.
I still have not like watched the show. The only
part of the show I've watched was with you guys.
But like I would just show up and hey, we
think they're going for this person, and then I would
kind of just notice how Avery was like public enemy

(47:39):
number one or two, and then all of a sudden
she's like halfway through the thing, I'm like, man, she
must be just handling herself right in camp because it
is fun the way like challenges athletically. Then you add
the punishment so the people who win have a little
bit of power over to see if they want to
get you on the wheel to kind of add a
couple extra names, and then it's a vote, so it's
popularity and then it all comes down a chance at
the end.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Yeah, like if you're on there, we want spoil. But
that one contestant where their name, their name was only
on their one time they were also in the challenge
or what it was, it called the punishment challenge. They
win the punishment challenge. That was the ice cold that
was the cold tuble where you gotta hold your breath. Yeah,
that person wins all the stuff and does all things
right and they're very loved and favored in the game,

(48:20):
and then there their names on there one time and
it gets hit and then they go home.

Speaker 5 (48:23):
It's crazy at the end, you want your name on
the wheel for the finale, which is a nice twist.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Yeah, that dude, I wish we could. I mean the
ending with the planks were trying to be my favorite one.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
Yeah, it's just the challenge. It's not even the spoil.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
I was gonna tell something about somebody that was in
it that was kind of scary that happened during production because.

Speaker 5 (48:48):
I was mad about one thing that happened on there.
I felt like there should have been more force.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
I'm with you on that, the thing that we want
you on that, but also if if you were me
in that position, like being a part of it, I'm
thinking to myself, there's no way I'm gonna rest, but
you have to go.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
Up here, right. It was like a little kid that
won't go off.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
The diving board.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yeah. Yeah, but it was like, obviously you're up there,
bro that that tower is high. I mean, when we're
up there shooting that portion, I'm thinking, yeah, that's scary
to stand up there. But there was one individual who
was not afraid of dropping because they've done the drop
before and they knew that the plank they were going
on was going to be a drop plank, and they

(49:24):
have their harness on but they're not clipped in, and
they just go, Okay, I guess I'll just go And
they walk out on the plank with nothing on, and
they have like one step on and like me, the
camera people, the production people screaming in my ear like
grab grab like and I'm like, oh, get them back,
and they had to clip them up and then go out.
But this dude, I've given away a little bit. But

(49:45):
this dude was like so lase fair about it ends
up dropping but he could have like, legit just ruined
the whole show.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
What ruined everything? Go check it out battle Camp on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Yeah.

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Speaker 8 (50:58):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
George Kittle's new cast run of applause for George Kittle,
friend of the bus, one of the boys. I know
this happened last Tuesday, but we didn't get a chance
to talk about a lot of things unfolded. George Kittle
reached out to the boys said, hey, got this news.
Do you want to break it? We say, yes, absolutely,
we want to break it. Becomes the highest paid tied
end in NFL history by point one. He's signed a
nineteen point one million dollars per year contract forty million

(51:22):
total and guarantee thirty five million at signing plus five
million and twenty twenty seven. Unreal, awesome. We have this brainstorm.
We're getting graphics ready, Coop's crushing it. There's a little
thing tank in the back. How do we Hey, six am,
this is gonna go out boom. The information goes out.
I'm sitting there and for my little red light, I say,
let's see what's going on here? Pop on the old
search bar on the X. What do I see? I

(51:44):
see Rap, I see Ian Rapport, who's a great guy.
I see NFL and Pro Football Talk all want to
talk about the news, but don't want to give credit
to the people that gave the news. So will Compton
doing will Compton things decided to handle business?

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Yeah, we had to take a walk that my morning coffee.
I saw Chefty he was giving us credit.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
I did see the man.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
I did see Ian like quote tweet the Busting with
the Boys tweet and say what deal got done? Or
he said something that essentially gave credit to busting. But
then his next tweet was writing out everything contractually. And
then the NFL uses that because they're paying Ian, so
they're boosting him. And then yeah, the Pro Football Talk
when they weren't giving us credit, and then they went
back by being like, oh, your credit's right here, So

(52:25):
they went in and edited the article to make it
seem like they had credit there for us the whole time. Yeah,
and since it's like, you know, I know Ian, we
know Ian, I know he's with the Pat mcaview boys,
so I know he's like one of the boys. So
I'm thinking, like, as I'm doing this walk thing, he'll
understand and get the joke and everything else. He did
to an extent, but he did facetimey. He like he
reached out to Delaney, Hey, can I get Can I
get Will's numbers?

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Llody Walker?

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Yeah. Delane's like, oh, let me ask him. So Delaney
calls and said, oh, yeah, yeah, give it to give
it a rap. And I answered him like, oh, look
who it is. I got a little shit grin on
my face. And he's like, interesting video you had yesterday.
It's like, yeah, I thought so too. He's like, that's
an interesting perspective. And it wasn't. It wasn't like full
jokes at first. It was more of like he I

(53:09):
think he felt some type of a little to some
type of you don't want to make it seem like
he sens that he doesn't get a blah blah blah.
I think he felt like a type of way to
an extent about the video, and so I was just like, oh, yeah,
what was h what was your perspective? And he kind
of gives out he was kind of he was kind
of kind of telling me why the NFL, like why
it goes the way it does. He's like, nobody really

(53:30):
gives a whole lot of credit anymore. I was trying
to do my thing. He's like, look, I'm fired up
that you guys got the George Kittle news. Even though
I felt like I was on an inside track, He's like,
I see cheft. He gave you guys the credit. He
had to put a put a little thing. He had
to put a little thing in there. But he's like,
I saw a chef to give you credit. I even
quote tweeted you guys and and gave you a thing.
But I'm essentially when I'm writing out, I'm verifying. And
then obviously the NFL. He's like the NFL. I'm an

(53:52):
employee of the NFL, so it's like NFL ESPN. They'll
promote their guys in house who kind of report on
the news, and you kind of know that the whole time,
and I'm just like, you know, I was making it
seem like, you know, I was just you were kind
of the vessel because it's like the NFL's going you
kind of don't know who's behind those profiles of the NFL.
So no, that Ian's tight end. He's also a boy.
It's like, I'm gonna use him. He's gonna be the

(54:14):
vessel to try to get to the NFL. So I
was just doing a fun thing and he's like, look,
you know, he's like, if if we have to fight,
you know, I had to. I had to. I had
to scrap with that dude at the Starbucks and then
we started laughing. I was like, oh to oh yeah,
so it was everything was good. The beef was squashed.
There wasn't even beef because a dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
He was like, understand the joke.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yeah. I was like, legitimately was just messing around. I
think he did know that, but I also think at
the same time he was like, you know, he just
wanted to talk about the video. Yeah, He's like, tell Taylor.
I said, what's up? You boys? Keep crushing and keep
doing what you're doing. And I was like, I'm gonna
put up a tweet if you don't mind, and talk
about your little Hey, I kind of heard about the
scrap at Starbucks. I want no smoke, I want no problems.
But yeah, everything was good. Good.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
What was the deal with the Starbucks.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
So at the draft, if you remember, there was a
big storyline of two media people like getting after it
out of Starbucks, and it was Ian and I don't
know who the other guy is? Do we do?

Speaker 5 (55:08):
We know who the other Jordan Schultz.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Let's just make a friend of the pod. Yeah, I
have no clue, but I remember they were talking about
on the MacFee Show the next day. There's like a
big scrap, but apparently it wasn't like a It was
just like a confrontation. There was some yelling and shouting,
but I don't think it ever got physical.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Inside scoop World, man, there's only a handful of boys.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
That's hilarious because so when it was going viral, I
guess maybe between you and Ian, he followed me. I
think he followed somebody else in the back and he
sent a DM like hey love the show.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Yeah, yeah, he's a he's a homie. It was just
like when I'll give him the little shit grin, he
was like, oh, interesting perspective. I'm just thinking, like I'm
fully joking around.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
You don't want to actually, oh Schultz DM.

Speaker 5 (55:46):
He's like, love the show, love what each other doing
after all that beef was going.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Dude, I don't know if this is true or not,
but I'm pretty sure Schultz's dad or somebody like was
like CEO or like one of like their families and
one of the founders of Starbucks.

Speaker 5 (55:59):
Yeah, they're like that really.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Yeah, I remember I remember getting ah. I remember my
agent reaching out to me and being like, hey, this guy,
Jordan Schultz's like starting to become like an insider guy.
Do you mind going on his YouTube show? This is
like twenty seventeen or something like that.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
So, boy, another another version of somebody who their parents
are super successful, trying to make a lane for themselves,
just like Arthur Smith. So shout out Schultz, dudent. We
should get a rapping Schultz in a rough and rowdy
old just on the bus, get.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Him on the bush.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Yeah, we're not with Barcelona. I don't know why. He's
still fun, still fun times, still fun times.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
No, the whole credit world is very interesting. Yeah, it
seems like with everybody inside there's oh yeah, very relive.
It's like anytime those moments get to happen for us,
I always see it as like such like a positive
thing because you're always like the guy, Like we're always
positioned as the guy going against the man, and it
just helps create like, you know, fun content to make
off of it. But it does seem like it's a

(56:59):
very sensitive thing the insider world.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Yeah, and also who gets credit?

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Do you ever see the ones where it's like, you know,
say it was me and you somebody will tweet It'll
be like per will and also Taylor, you know what
I mean, Like they're double crediting because maybe they didn't
figure out who's the first one to it, so given credit.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
The Yeah, I've seen that. I just don't. I just
think about like being in that world of having to
be on your phone twenty four to seven and getting
the information and you have to be the first guy
to it. Yeah, it sounds like a horrible job, something
that I would never want to do ever.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
But hey, if players call us something, Hey do you
want to break the news, we'll we'll break the news.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah, those just falls right in our lap. Yeah,
we will absolutely do that.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Yeah, we'll create some chaos.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Oh, we're gonna get you guys in the episode. But
before we do, let's talk about this merch we had
going on BWTV. Dot com. We got hats, we got hoodies.
I put this little boy on because this little chili
out National Tennessee Today. Big Fanity sweaters, Big Fanity sweaters,
comfy on the inside. G you did a phenomenal job
these hats right here. You can tell I'm wearing this
one quite a bit, dude. I love this hat, this

(58:00):
dad hat, the new UH busting trucker hats. We figured
out the depth and all those things. The quality you
look on the inside, it says busting with the boys
on a very nice is a nice classy tag. This
one doesn't have it a nice classy tag on the
back where you kind of just put it all in.
Very nice hats, very good QUALITYBWTV dot com. Going check
that stuff out. It's phenomenal. Well you got anything before you.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Take them to I did have a gas shout out,
no free shout.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Out, go ahead?

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Oh we got gooner ex Oh.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Shit, yeah we do. Do you want to shout? No
free shoutout?

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Shout out, no free shoutout? Number one. It's Mother's Day weekend,
so shout out the moms. All the moms, get all
the free shoutouts. Here's my here's my fire shout out
bro okay, licking the cookie dough off the little mixer,
the little mixer tool, whisker. Yeah, a little egg beater

(58:55):
licking the cookie dough off of the egg beater.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Phenomenon?

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Is that one?

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Not gas boys, it's allid, it's solid.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Yeah, I thought that shit Charle make cookies last night.
I'm sitting there, But who comes out dead day? Here's yours.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
I'm just fucking that tongue is crazy. We got a
shout out in the back boys, shout out people going
to Mitch's party that actually went.

Speaker 10 (59:21):
Yeah, shout out people that say they're coming to your
party but don't end up showing up.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Damn vibes back there are tough, jack, You got anything?

Speaker 13 (59:32):
Uh, shout out to a well constructed campfire?

Speaker 5 (59:37):
Yeah, because I.

Speaker 13 (59:39):
Went out for one day this weekend with some friends
and it was kind of rainy. It was rainy in Nashville,
and it was rainy on Waverley where we were, so
we had a bunch of wood already set out and
obviously gets wet.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
You don't know if the fire is gonna roar like
you wanted to.

Speaker 13 (59:53):
And we had a really big team effort constructed four
or five people. Some people are trying to find dry wood,
some people are trying to f anything we can to
start this thing. And after about thirty forty five minutes,
we got this thing purring.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
It was one of the best fires.

Speaker 13 (01:00:06):
I've ever been around. So to go from the low
point of soaking what wood to a really special fire,
it takes a lot for a group.

Speaker 8 (01:00:16):
To come together and make that happen.

Speaker 13 (01:00:18):
So shout out to a great camp fire and it
just brings everyone together.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
God, you're right, dude, you're right. So yeah, it was
fucking gass. Dude, that shit was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Well constructed fires.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Oh yeah, let's go. All right, Brian stepping up to
the plan.

Speaker 7 (01:00:33):
I'm gonna go shout out to you guys the boys
for letting us lend us come on this on this
on this week, so we're looking forward to it.

Speaker 8 (01:00:42):
So shout out to you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
All right, dude, nice, very kind, very kind. Good luck
following that one.

Speaker 9 (01:00:47):
Geto.

Speaker 6 (01:00:48):
Uh yeah, shout out my family. Yeah, they came out
this past weekend for my twenty first birthday. So that
was that was good out here in actual So yeah,
shout out shout out the boys.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
All right, All right, was never one Broadway Number one
bar and bar you like the most? Okay, yeah, probably were.
I think Mitch is losing his news resolution.

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Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
Morgan Stanley, shout out, no free shoutouts. We were with
Sitting's family this past weekend and there was she has
a bunch of nieces and nephews and one of them
nearly she is six years old, and she stayed the
night at the same house Sitting and I were staying at.
And before she went to bed, she comes up, she says, JP,
I drew you this photo. And she drew a photo

(01:01:44):
of me, her and Sitting and was like, I love Aunt,
Sitting and JP and this is like a nine thirty
last minute thing. And I'm just like, man, this is
I'm not even blood related to her, and I'm feeling
that feeling that love. So I can't imagine what it's
like as a parent to receive it. But shout out
to those drawings that those little kids make for you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
They're they're incredible, wholesome, awesome. Geeveby, you got anything, Mine's
pretty simple.

Speaker 12 (01:02:11):
I went to past school in Mississippi this weekend and got.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Absolutely fried on the water.

Speaker 12 (01:02:17):
So I just want to shout out alo.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Vera nice yeah, there you go, kiss method on that one.
Send it my way, beautiful shout outs all around my
shout out. No free Shadow is going to go to
the family barbecue and the family is something special about
everyone's sitting around, everyone's having a drink, talking, catching up
with everybody. When I was up in Canada this weekend
with Taylor's family, they like redid Easter and Grandpa when

(01:02:42):
he does this thing every year where he does like
little riddles and you have to solve all of the
riddles around the property in order to get your Easter
egg basket. So we are having a good time doing that.
Miss Tanna, Taylor's mom, she's out there grilling burgers. People
are sitting up, lining up like it was like a
little pot luck situation. But something about having a seven
and a four year old and being the parents where

(01:03:04):
you kind of just sit in the chair and truly
you get to see like the village take place, where
it takes a village to raise a kid. I didn't
do shit. I sat there, I hung out I saw
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say names. I think I have an understanding who the
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X teammate you introduced some baby.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Yeah, this is a treat because Josh Jacobs, he doesn't
do a whole lot of interviews. Fact, I don't know
if you search on YouTube. I was trying to find
some conversations about him, and he doesn't. You don't do interviews,
not really. Yeah, so I appreciate the favor. Yeah, I've
been after you for years.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
That's what I said.

Speaker 14 (01:08:29):
I gotta do it because I already told him I
was gonna do it. I saw you in New Orleans. Hey,
you gotta get your on busting.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Yeah, trying to follow up with a couple of texts.
You know, he changes his number quite a bit. I'm thinking, hey,
do I have the up to date one right now?

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
And when you said a text, it was blue, then
it goes to green.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
You're like lost them In the last couple ones they
were stay stayed blue. So I'm like a doe. I
hit him up, hit him.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
You can only send the eyes so many times. I
know I'm really just stalking this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Yeah, and I know he's probably grinning or something.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Just like how many time seasons assistance before?

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
And you think that's bad. You should see the coaches
in this off season.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Trying to hit you up. We're gonna tries to hit
you up to all of them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Who tries to hit you up first, and then who
does that one? Think, Okay, he can probably get to him.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
See it start off.

Speaker 14 (01:09:19):
I feel like it start off with like you know,
the interns and things like that, then your position coach.
Then next thing you know, it's the head coach office coordinator.
I'm like, y'all, y'all saying the same thing, like what
we're gonna try to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Get you to do?

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Another just checking in and hey, man has off season
going literally like all of that.

Speaker 14 (01:09:37):
I'm like, Bro, I don't, Bro, I don't even answer
my phone, like I get off social media everything in
off season. So I'm like, y'all gonna be talking to
yourself for real. And they have been, and they was nervous.
It was like we didn't think he was pulling up.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
I'm like, I'm gonna slide. I tell you I'm gonna
do I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Where do you Where do you spend your off seasons?

Speaker 14 (01:09:53):
It depends, man, Like either I'm at home in Oklahoma
or I mean I got a house in Florida too,
so I'll be kind of back and forth.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
So you go back to Oklahoma a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
Yeah, smart family, Yet, Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Your story, incredible story is.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Insane, Like there's been specials on it, there's been features
and everything else, but I would love to dive into
you got like you just being homeless young, Like how
does a dad with five kids manage to uh, protect
you guys? And what is he quota saying? Like protect
your guys's destiny? Like, dive into that for us, because

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that is Yeah, that's a hell of a journey. Bro.

Speaker 14 (01:10:30):
It was honestly bro Like in that moment at that time,
I didn't really fully understand like what I was going
through because I was with my family and like I
was like, dang, we're doing a lot of moving. But
it was like that was normal for us, you know
what I'm saying. So like I didn't really have the
time to like process it. Like even throughout all of that,
I still have fun, you know all myself.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
How old are you this when this part of the
your life is?

Speaker 14 (01:10:55):
So it was right after my parents' divorce, so it
was probably like I was probably in like fourth grade,
so for like fourth grade until fourth grade until like
sixth grade, and then like eighth grade. After eighth grade,
like a year or so after that, and then we
was kind of like stable it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
So it was like pockets, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Yeah, like sixth grade to eighth grade and then breaking
eighth grade and then.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
Yeah, then we stayed at the house.

Speaker 14 (01:11:20):
Then we stayed at a house for like a year
and a half two years, and then like a little
pocket again.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
So yeah, and the pocket was essentially living out of
your dad.

Speaker 14 (01:11:27):
Suburban yeah, or like motels like hotels like all of
that anywhere. We used to always try to go to
somewhere where it had the free breakfast in the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Yeah, cereal gets a little serial.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Your pockets and everything.

Speaker 4 (01:11:45):
Yeah for real.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
I mean obviously when you sit back now, it's an
crazy story, but you're talking about like at that point,
you weren't even you didn't even realize what was going on. Yeah,
like you're just busy having fun being a kid like
man experience, like in the moment, not looking back.

Speaker 14 (01:11:59):
On it in a moment, I would say it was
different because I used to be upset like having you know,
one pair of shoe, you know you're gonna have to
make work for the whole year, or like maybe two
if you if you you know what I'm saying, Lucky
and like half into like uh, you know, two or
three pairs, like uniforms and having to wash the me
these day, or whether it's in the sink or pulling

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over and like you know, going to a little pump
side of the side of the road, like pumping water,
like having to heat up water, all of these types
of things.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
It was just it was what I was used to.

Speaker 14 (01:12:31):
I never really I never really thought it was something
different or unusual until really.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
I got to college. And when I got to college, it.

Speaker 14 (01:12:41):
Was like the first time I had a bed, you know,
so like I'm like, damn, Like I used to sleep
on the floor. I used to make a palette on
the floor for like the first like month and a half.
And my roommate earth Smith, he used to ask me, like, bro,
like what's going on? Like so when we that was
my first time like really processing it, you know what
I'm saying, like really like sitting down and being like, Okay,

(01:13:04):
this is not normal, Like what I've experienced, what I've
gone through is not normal. Like And then it got
to the point where like football was always like an
atlet for me, and at Alabama, they it got to
a point where they was like, man, you might want
to talk to somebody like you might want to, you know,
either get counseling or open up to somebody you feel
like you trust about what you've been through to be

(01:13:26):
able to like because I never wanted to tell the story.
I never it was never it was a story that
was never going to be told because I felt embarrassed
by the story, you know what I'm saying, Like, so
I never want Like even when I went to school,
people never knew. Like only people that knew was my friends,
cause they'll come over and be like where we at
right now? You know what I'm saying, But like like
that was really like it so like for me. We

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had a media guy at the time. His name was
also Josh at Alabama, and he was like, man, he
the one that convinced me to do it, and he
was just basically telling me. He was like, man, like
you don't understand how many people like have same story
going on or a similar story. Uh, and you don't
know how like your impact it can affect and change
somebody life. And that's when I was like, you know what,

(01:14:09):
Like you're right, and then that's what like I finally
told the story, like I never talked about it. I'll
tell people all the time that talking about it then
was like the first real time I ever talked about
it was, And I didn't know how therapeutic it really
was for me to finally like process it, you know,
So it was smooth?

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
What what was uh? What was having Josh push you
to do it? Were you somebody who was very quiet
and they were trying.

Speaker 14 (01:14:35):
To like yeah, so I was quiet. I was quiet,
but like I was like, I was quiet, but I
got in trouble a lot, you know what I'm saying,
Like a trouble maker. Like I did everything I was
supposed to do when it comes to like schooling and stuff.
But I used to just do dumb shit like all

(01:14:55):
the time, you know what I'm saying, Like like I
got in trouble for rid of my dirt bike on
a quad, like just dumb shit, having Paintbay Wars in
the in the dorm like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, literally,
like just doing dumb stuff, you know what I'm saying. So,
like it got to the point where like I have
I had a son, I have my son in high school.

(01:15:17):
My literally national signing day February third, my senior year.
So like when I got to my junior year, and
that's when I finally told the story Like my junior year.
When it got to my junior year, I was kind
of getting to the point where I'm like, shit is
starting to get real.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
Like I'm like, all right, what am I doing?

Speaker 14 (01:15:37):
Like I'm gonna have to, you know, either go to
school and be and be good at this, get a
degree and go work, or like I need to, you know,
take this football stuff kind of serious and figure it out.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
And so like as I got.

Speaker 14 (01:15:49):
To that point where I used to class, like I
class was saving a couple of times because I just
felt like the pressure, you know, the outside pressure was
starting to like all right, you run out of time.
And then at the same time, I'm like, okay, I'm
doing everything right from the class standpoint to you know, workouts.
I'm not missing no workouts. I'm like, damn, I'm not
playing for real, Like I'm like, What's what's going on?

(01:16:11):
And then like I finally just like spassed on saving
one game, like like yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (01:16:19):
One of them, Like you know, how which game was it?
I remember it?

Speaker 14 (01:16:22):
It was all miss my junior year old Miss. I
think it was the third game of the season, third
or fourth game of the season, I had scored and
Henry bro Henry Ruggs little brother, play linebacker and like
he I dragged him. I'm like, he holding on to me,
like six yards it is, I'm still grabbing me. I'm like,
so we had some words. Stay through the flag, so

(01:16:42):
I'm like, okay, I already know what's coming and saving
you know, yeah, I already know what's coming. So I'm like,
all right, saving cuss me out. I'm like, all right,
I eat it, you know, like like everybody, especially when
you're in the wrong, You're like, all right whatever. But
then like a couple of drives go back and he
came back to like cuss me out again, and I
must have got up, and I'm like, yeah, we had

(01:17:02):
some words.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
And then after that, like.

Speaker 14 (01:17:04):
We got to have time, and I was really like,
it's actually the first time I'm actually fully telling this story.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
We got to halftime and I was like, I took
my pass off.

Speaker 14 (01:17:14):
I'm like I'm done, like I'm finna go go transfer
like Oregon talk. You know, I'm talking to Oregon. I'm
talking Oklahoma, like I'm about to like you know what
I'm saying, like figure it out. I'm like, it's my
junior Year'm runn out of time. But then I talked
to coach Locks, you know, he the head coach of
Maryland now, and he was just basically telling me like, man, like,
you don't understand that this look if you if you

(01:17:34):
was to quit on your team right now and leave,
like the look even.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
If you write, it's not gonna look good.

Speaker 14 (01:17:41):
So like I was like, you know what, like you write,
I have to start processing and I ain't gonna lie
to cry.

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
Bro, Like I sat down cry because I'm like, bro.

Speaker 14 (01:17:47):
What more do y'all want me to do? You know
what I'm saying, Like I'm doing everything. You're right, and
y'all still.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
This might be our Buffalo wall wings. Yeah, interrupting an
incredible story.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
I need to hear at the end of the story.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
He's no clue. Josh Jacobs just sitting in the garage
talking about ole miss Alabama.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Halftime pads are off. Yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
All right, so you're sitting there and it's weighing on
you so much you start having tears because.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
Yeah, you're halftime.

Speaker 14 (01:18:16):
Yeah, So so yeah, I started it was at halftime.
I started, like, you know, like literally like I'm so
frustrated at the point, I'm like, I'm mad. I want
to fight, honestly and like and that's the and the
crazy thing is that's the first time they ever seen
that side of me, you know what I'm saying. So
like they always like we used to him just being quiet,
like you don't never say nothing like you feel me,
so like I was like amped up, and so he

(01:18:39):
told me the story like, Okay, come back, it's a
bad look whatever. I'm like, you know, you're right. So
we come back out halftime. I'm returning punts. They kicked
the ball to me, I'll return it like sixty seventy yards.
And I didn't even celebrate. I just stared saving the
whole time, walking to the sidelines, just staring them down
the whole time. And then we at a meeting on Monday,

(01:19:01):
and we basically like sat out here, like man, what's
going on?

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
Like we started talking.

Speaker 14 (01:19:06):
I'm like, man, like you say that you you know,
take care of guys that you feel like, work hard
and don't get in trouble and do all these things.
I'm like, what more do you want me to do
to be able to play? I'm scoring like when I
touched the ball. I'm like, I'm it ain't like I'm
playing bad, you know what I'm saying. It's just like
I'm not getting too many opportunities. So I'm like, what
do you want me to do? If it's not enough.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
Room for me?

Speaker 14 (01:19:25):
Let me know, let me move around, like you know
what I'm saying type deal. And this was before you
know you couldn't go play you I would have to,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:19:33):
So I'm like, did you read shirt? Nah?

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Okay, so you would exactly.

Speaker 14 (01:19:39):
So like I'm like, man like he was like you
know what, Like that conversation changed everything everything, Like me
and him, like we became like kind of like tight
after that. Because one thing about Saving that I've learned
and being around him is he respects people that talk
back to them and not what I mean, like not
be disrespectful, but like have the ball enough to say

(01:20:00):
something back to him, you know what I'm saying. Like
a lot of people walk on eggshells around him, whether
they playing for him or they working for him.

Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
They just scared of him, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 14 (01:20:09):
So like anybody that got like a little bit of
he liked, you know what I'm saying, So after that,
I just started playing. I started making plays, start making plays,
and then the rest is history.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
I mean, but that second year too, Like didn't you
break your ankle?

Speaker 14 (01:20:23):
Yeah, so my second year I played the whole season.
So I did it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
Like it was Mississippi State or some I think it
was Mississippi State. I had fractured my ankle.

Speaker 14 (01:20:36):
I had like a peraneal tendon and like reconnacular surgery.
So you know normally that surgery like it's like seven months.
So after the literally two days after the championship game,
I went and had surgery. So like the whole off season,
I was like training, like trying to get back. Like
the first couple of games, even my junior of my
first couple of games was kind of like you know,

(01:20:58):
like you you know how you feel when you got
an injuries, Like it's like you there, but you're not
where you was.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
You know what I'm saying. It take a little.

Speaker 14 (01:21:04):
Mission, like you don't like the cut, feel a little off,
like you know, things like that. So like I finally
got back to the swing and I was like, yeah,
I'm ready, like and then it was also a blessing
in disguise for me because I put on weight because
all came into college one eighty five.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Bro, and you were young. Bro, yeah you look like
a kid. Like I was watching when you was doing
the hat, putting on the Alabama hat and how.

Speaker 4 (01:21:30):
Much did you ate eighteighty five?

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
I mean, he looked like a kid. Bro. It was
nuts because that was like your yeah, yeah, we can
get into that too.

Speaker 14 (01:21:39):
But going, yeah, so I put I ended up putting
on thirty pounds because you know, when you when you
can't really walk, all you can do is lift and like,
so that was like one of like a blessing in
disguise for me.

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
But man, the rest was history. Man.

Speaker 14 (01:21:52):
Like they started scheming up plays for me. I started
making plays. I'm like, okay, then I started And which
was crazy was the coaches towards the end of the season.
The coaches like, yeah, you need to leave. I'm like,
what you mean I need to leave? I'm not even
the starter, Like I haven't even started, Like what you
mean leave? Like they like, go to the draft.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
I'm like huh.

Speaker 14 (01:22:12):
So, like the coaches really convinced me to even go.
I wasn't even gonna come out.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
So after your third year, you weren't even gonna come out.

Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
I wasn't even gonna come out. I didn't even think that.
The same year.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
The same year, and at the end of the year,
the coach is scolling team, be like, you need to
leave our program so our program gets worse so you
can make money.

Speaker 14 (01:22:29):
But I'm telling you think about the coach. About the
coaches is a lot of the coaches are former players.
One thing about Saving is he always hires former players,
so like it don't matter, He'll figure out a job
for you. Like you know what I'm saying, He's that
type of dude. But so, like they telling me, and
I'm like, I'm like how. And then so I'm getting

(01:22:49):
other you know, sources, people telling me. I'm like, first round,
Like they say you the first back. I'm like, it's
a guy here, Damien Harris that's like three hundred and
four hundred yards away from breaking the record at Alabama.
I'm like, what you mean, I'm gonna go in first
round before him? Like I'm not, you know, really comprehending it,
but they convinced me. And then I'm like, wow, like
everything else took her ever yourself real.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
What was the reason behind you being taken over Damien
Harris when he's th threehundred four n yards away, Like,
was it your like catching ability like more of an
all around back in their mind? Like, because that that
is wild if you're essentially the number two.

Speaker 14 (01:23:23):
And I wasn't even number two. I was like two
slash three because you know, Nag was there too.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
So like your way how stacked Alabama is?

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
Yeah? Bro, So like that was the thing. Like I
was like, but.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
I'm not really playing, I'm thinking I probably know why
everybody that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
Yeah, And that's the thing.

Speaker 14 (01:23:42):
So when I asked coach, like when I I remember
coming in, Kirby Wilson was my running back coach. I
remember asking like that same question. He was like, you
want to know why you're the number one back. He said,
you played every special teams. Nobody in this building can
say anything bad about you. They say you never lay
for nothing and Bama literally almost every practice, every other

(01:24:04):
practice is scouts watching us at practice. So like the scouts,
you know, they seeing me the whole year. Obviously I'm
not like going crazy stat wise, but like yards per carry,
all of that is you know up there, catching out
the backfield is what main thing that I did, you
know in college? So like I think that had played
a role into it. But I really don't know. Bro,

(01:24:25):
Like to this day, I'm like, I'll be I'll be
I don't want to ask him, like how do he
feel about it? But I'll be thinking about it. I'm like, cause.

Speaker 4 (01:24:32):
That's like if I was the guy and the third
guy went over, I'd be like I would feel sick. Yeah,
I would be sick, like for real. So I don't know.
I mean all I can say is God for real.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
So they convince you to leave at the end of
the season, what is your process? Like how quickly are
now you're now looking for an agent? Because if it's
not on your radar at all? How quick? Like who
did you talk to you about? Like representation?

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Where do I go?

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
Train?

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
There's IMG, there's excess, there's all these places you go,
Like how fast did you have to make those decisions?

Speaker 4 (01:25:02):
Yeah? So it was fast.

Speaker 14 (01:25:05):
So right after they used to have at Bama, they
got a like I don't know, it's a certain time
period where they got a day where agents can come
meet you and like meet all the guys. It's like
draft eligible and you sit down like with a group
of guys or whatever, and you know, saving he's under
like c AA and all them, so obviously they're in
there and all the other people are in there.

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
But I had a guy that I was close to,
which was.

Speaker 14 (01:25:30):
Ryan Big Ryan, and he had Chad my agents over there,
so Chad. So the moment I met Chad, I was like,
it's something about this dude.

Speaker 4 (01:25:42):
You know what I'm saying. I'm like, I'm like, I
don't know. And then the first time I'm.

Speaker 14 (01:25:46):
Actually kicked it with him, we actually went to an
Earl's game in Baltimore and we got in like a
little scuffle after the game, and the way he handled
the scuff, I was like, this is my god.

Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
But I knew. I knew.

Speaker 14 (01:26:02):
I was like, this is this is my guy, like
and we've been locked in ever since.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
Real when you're at Bama and you're not ever the
future back and I know how competitive you are, how
was your mentality throughout your career at Alabama when you're
not like the future guy? Because when you think of Alabama,
like you're right when you came out and say, oh,
who's the Josh Jacobs kill because you think of Trent Richardson,
you got Derrick Henry. But how was that mentality like
for you as a player at Alabama when I know

(01:26:28):
how competitive you are.

Speaker 14 (01:26:29):
The only reason why I went to Bama because I
want to prove to myself that I was as good
as I thought I was.

Speaker 4 (01:26:34):
That was literally the only reason why I went.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Bro That is like, that's an amazing answer.

Speaker 14 (01:26:39):
Yeah, Like I literally felt like because all my life,
I've been the underdog. All my life, I had I
had five hundred yards five hunding some yards in a
game in high school and still didn't have no offers.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
Did you know, like stayed in rushing yards like two years.

Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
In a row. My junior year, I had twelve hundred
yards in four games.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Like I'm like it didn't didn't have I didn't have
none because you didn't get what bam into what December.

Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
I didn't get him to a basketball season.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
So after his senior year, senior year, Alabama calls, which
is crazy because Alabama, the Texas, the USC's. Yeah, usually
the classes are done Oklahoma, Yeah, usually their classes are
done like two years in advance.

Speaker 14 (01:27:20):
And see that's what's crazy. So when they came, so
I started getting my first offer was like new Mexico State,
and I'm like, Okay, I'm like I'm cool with that
because you gotta think. Like for me, the NFL was
never a dream for me because it was never a reality.
I've never seen nobody, you know, do it or even
go far for real. So like for me, I was like,

(01:27:41):
if I get to school, that's all I'm trying to do.
Like I'm trying to get to school. I went to school.
I majored in business manage me pre law. Like I'm like,
I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna go get a real degree,
you know, like try to go to work, you.

Speaker 4 (01:27:51):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 14 (01:27:52):
That's what I was trying to set myself up and
make some connections, go to work. And so when I
it became like more and more serious, I'm like I
started thinking more about that, you know, but I didn't
understand it. Like Bama came, Bama ended up coming, and
then Oklahoma came, and then like a lot of other
schools came.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
I remember the weirdest school I had was like TCU.

Speaker 14 (01:28:14):
I ended up getting into it with my well, my
dad got into it with the with the recruiter that
was recruiting.

Speaker 4 (01:28:19):
Because they wanted me to play dB. I saw play dB.

Speaker 14 (01:28:22):
So I played corner in safety and like I was,
I was decent that I was decent that I was also.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
A lot faster I was.

Speaker 14 (01:28:29):
I was, I had I had put like this, And
when I was in safety, I had four picks in
the first four games and never got the ball through
my side again.

Speaker 4 (01:28:40):
Yeah for real, Jacob z is like, I was, like,
I was good.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
You were one hundred and sixty pounds white kids dying.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
No, But that's why I told him.

Speaker 14 (01:28:49):
But that was that was funny because the dude wanted
me to play dB, and I'm like, I do not
see myself hitting these dudes on this level because I
wanted to do this. I wasn't wrapping up anyways. I
was just booming everybody any chance I could. But Alabama
came during basketball season, and actually he came coach Burtenburn's.
Actually he was just when my little brother last week,
my little brother goes to UAB. But he was just

(01:29:12):
he was like, man, I'm out here for somebody else.
He said, I'm not even here for you. He said,
some guy down the road actually mentioned your name, and
so that's the reason why I'm here so he was like,
I'm only going to stay for like five ten minutes.
He watched me at basketball practice, so you know when
I see him come in, he got all the rings on.
He come in with Alabama. I'm like, oh yeah, so

(01:29:34):
you know I'm trying hard. I go dunk the ball
like I'm looking over every time. You know, I'm like,
I'm trying down. So then he ended up leaving and
he came back like ten minutes later. He end up
staying for two hours. Me and him just sat down
and he was talking for two hours, and he was like, man,
I be honest with you, Like we're really done with
our recruiting, he said. But one guy that was like,

(01:29:56):
we're trying to recruit. We're still waiting to see if
he can even make it because his grades like academics,
he was struggling to get in. So like literally like
the day that I went to sign, that's when I
found out that I could even go to Alabama because
they called me right before and was like, yeah, he
didn't make it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
What was your game plan? If Alabama doesn't call, I.

Speaker 14 (01:30:16):
Was gonna go to missou Jew saw me.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
That's a crazy thing. Wing up.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
Day He's.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
Suicide watching right now, the coaching sets in the war
room like, hey, he's gonna committee's gonna get.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
What happened in Alabama Because I had a visit.

Speaker 14 (01:30:38):
Drew Lot showed me around and I'm like, I'm like,
I don't know. This is different was you know, different
than anything I've ever seen. I'm like, they got landscaping.
I have never seen landscape.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Shout at Columbia Missouri landscaping. I'm like, man, this is
good business school, good grade business school.

Speaker 4 (01:30:56):
You know.

Speaker 14 (01:30:56):
And then and then bad was like so I took
a parcel. So that was my only two visits with
Miszoo and Bama, but I took a partial. But I
went to Bama and I was like, the first thing
I seen was a group of girls.

Speaker 4 (01:31:08):
I was like yeah. I was like, yeah, I think
this is gonna be for me.

Speaker 14 (01:31:13):
And then Jalen Hurst was actually the one that saw
me around because he was early in Roly, so like
he had saw me around.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
I was like, okay, like I think this is the
spot to be dude.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
What was Jalen Hurts's mentality when you were around him?
Is it what you see now or is he a
little a little more young and immature.

Speaker 5 (01:31:30):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:31:30):
He's always been that way. Way when he had dread,
he had.

Speaker 14 (01:31:34):
Dreads, so when I came in, he had dreads And
he's always been like that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
But like he's he's funnier and goofier than people think.

Speaker 14 (01:31:42):
Like he don't act like in the media like, but
in that locker room like he is, like he's he's
a guy.

Speaker 4 (01:31:47):
You know what I'm saying. But he's always been like like.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
Just like that, constantly just putting out amazing quotes Saving Saving.

Speaker 4 (01:31:55):
He got them quotes from Saving.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
That he got some of his own things.

Speaker 14 (01:32:05):
So you got to also think that his dad was
a coach, so you can think he was been being
trained this way his whole life, you know. But Saving,
he is the first that I've ever seen like have
a quote for everything in life literally and to have
it all throughout the building, Like he got to send
for like literally everything. I'm not even playing like, but

(01:32:26):
Saving he's just one of them dudes that he's so different.
The way he thinks, the way that he prepares, the
way that he like goes about his business on a
day to day basis every I've never seen somebody in
my life where everything is so structured and calculated like
he like if I eat at three o'clock, he eating
at three o'clock every day, and if he eat a
thrill too, somebody getting cused out like it was like

(01:32:48):
literally like different ball, Like he was just different, bro.
But that's what made me understand like why he's so
special and why he is who he is because he
does things that nobody else would do.

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
For real, when you go from having twelve hundred yards
and four games all these crazy things, you end up
going to Alabama your first time walking in that locker room,
and Alabama at this point is like there's first rounders.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
Every year, grown men, grown men.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
Yeah, Like, were you like maybe this is not for
at any point where we're like maybe this is not
for me.

Speaker 14 (01:33:17):
The only time I was like maybe this is not
for me was when we was working out because I'm
like what.

Speaker 4 (01:33:21):
The I'm like, did I come to run track? I'm like,
did I come to run track? Or did I come
to play football?

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
Like trying to kill you like that, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
One teens.

Speaker 14 (01:33:30):
We had a minimum seventeen one teens every time we
ran them. We ran them once every.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Week, seventeen one tens every.

Speaker 4 (01:33:37):
Week, every minimum that's if everybody make their time.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
What was the speed group time?

Speaker 14 (01:33:44):
What it was like, I think it was either it
was thirteen, it was thirteen fourteen fifteen.

Speaker 4 (01:33:52):
Skills in thirteen it was that's insanely.

Speaker 14 (01:33:56):
But I'm telling you, bro, you had to run. You
have to run eighty percent of speed to make it
on time. I swear every people passing out everything, throwing
up like.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
You in the weight room.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
You were like, Okay, this is fun. I can live
to wait.

Speaker 4 (01:34:09):
They had to teach me how to wait, how to live.
I never lived in college. I high school.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
You were as green as they came. Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
I just still don't know power clean to this day,
like I cannot do it, like I swear.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
So like that is wid That's how you put on
the thirty quick literally literally, I'm like, man, so y'all
get all this food.

Speaker 14 (01:34:31):
And that's the best part. The food, eating three or
four times a day. From eating one meal a day
to eating three four full course meals a day. It's different.
Like Bama, bro, you we used to go in there.
We had King crab, this big like.

Speaker 4 (01:34:46):
Steak weak you get you damned order a steak every day?

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
And I know you too. You probably bringing home to
go boxes.

Speaker 14 (01:34:53):
Yes, and you got to go boxes everything else. Bro,
I'm telling you it was eating this stuff was good.
But my mental coming in though, like I was small
and I didn't know nobody, so obviously it was like
it was like a culture shock for me.

Speaker 4 (01:35:08):
So I was just quiet. But I was always used
to just work.

Speaker 14 (01:35:11):
So like after like the you know, you get over
there like weeks two weeks, you soar.

Speaker 4 (01:35:15):
From like you know, doing that type of stuff. You
kind of get acclimated.

Speaker 14 (01:35:18):
And then I remember, you know, in the summers, the
coaches can't coach you, so like we'd have like individual
like not individual, but team ran like seven on sevens
and shit like that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
Team ran seven and seven was seventeen out.

Speaker 4 (01:35:32):
There is that exactly?

Speaker 14 (01:35:33):
And every so they got a balconies that overlooks the field.
They used to just sit in the balconies and watch
us basically, but like I remember, like everybody used.

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
To come up to me and was like, who is
this little dude with the fro? Because I came in
I had a fro. They're like, they're like, who is
the little dude from the fro? They used to call me.

Speaker 14 (01:35:55):
The little boy from across the street. It was like,
who is this dude? They was like, nobody's heard of you.
Like when I came in, there was like, bro, we
know no, none of us know you are. But like
I just consistently kept making plays like consistently. Like then
we had a camp practice. I'm with the tools, so
I'm going against the ones. So like I'm like, damn,

(01:36:17):
like we scrimmaging, I'm going against the ones. I'm the
only person to score at the running backs the whole day.
So they was like, whoever this little dude is, we
might like he might be nice. And then it got
to the point where other players, the veteran players like
Ruben Foster dron Pain started coming up to me. Was like, bro,
like you you're gonna be good, Like you're gonna be special,
like and then when I start having all the vets,

(01:36:38):
like I feel like believe in me, that's when I
was like, Okay, I could do this shit for real.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Foster would even menace monster on the field.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
That whole entire roster was just insane.

Speaker 14 (01:36:51):
But the whole defense my freshman year got drafted or
played in the league at some point, Like you gotta
think Marlin Eddie Jackson, Rubens MS, you got dron Payin,
you got you got all of these, like bro we was.
It was a deep like Marlon Humphrey leave all Wallace
on the other side. I'm like, yeah, that that's what

(01:37:12):
really I feel like prepared me because going against them
type of that type of caliber, like either you're gonna
figure it out or you're gonna be like this is
not for me.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
How much that like structure around, like Saban's culture help
you in the NFL, because as you know, it's way
different when you get to the NFL.

Speaker 14 (01:37:26):
Yeah, So I'm gonna tell you the main, main, main
reason why I signed with Alabama. When I went to
Missou and they found out that I was only gonna
stay for a parcel or the time to take half
of the time to go because it was the last
recruiting weekend. Because I was so late, you know, to
be able to go to go there, they made a
whole power point of how Bama is this and how

(01:37:48):
I wasn't gonna play there, like how my chances of
playing there was a very slim And then when I
went to Bama and I talked to Saban, we never
even talked about football. He just talked to me and
he was like, this is how I can help you
become a better man. This is how I can grow
your relationships and you know, grow you as a man.
And that's what Like I was like, Okay, that sold me.

(01:38:10):
Like that was enough for me because, like I said,
at that time, I'm not really too much thinking about
football because I'm like that's not really a real reality
for me. So I'm like, I want to be good.
I want to play, but like I want to go
to school, like I want to bail me figure it out.
So when he did that, I was like, yeah, like
he gonna be the person that really teach me and
like help me grow up and develop me and things

(01:38:32):
like that.

Speaker 4 (01:38:32):
And that's why I end up choosing them.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
So Bama was telling you how you your chances were
minimal or that.

Speaker 14 (01:38:37):
Was was it's all about football. It wasn't about football
until they found out that I was going to take
half of the other uh you know.

Speaker 4 (01:38:47):
Visit to see it about you. So then they like
when they started talking about one thing about Bama that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
I had, Okay, they showed a power point of you
not playing your chances of playing at Alabama R exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:38:57):
And that's the thing. One thing I say.

Speaker 14 (01:38:59):
Once I got that Alabama recognition, every school that came
to talk to me always brought them up. So I
was like, y'all just making me want to be play
there even more, Like y'all keep speaking on them. They
must be the top dog, like you know what I'm saying, Like,
I'm like, all right, Like so that's kind of how
it played out.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
You kind of have to recruit like that. It's Alabama.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Yeah, but also it's like, damn, Alabama's the most competitive cats.
You want the cats that are like, yeah, I'm gonna
beat anybody anytime like that. Almost a delusional mindset essentially,
what you had right to make it in the NFL,
to make it Alabama, you have to have a delusional mindset.
So if you want those guys, why would you play
in the Alabama's favorite that way?

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
Because your point just want you. Literally, if I'm Missouri,
I'm just stroking you the whole.

Speaker 4 (01:39:39):
Time, literally and telling me what you can do for me.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
Right. We had all this, we had a great business school.
But football is gonna work out for you. You're gonna
play right away. We're gonna get you going.

Speaker 4 (01:39:47):
It was even talking about let me.

Speaker 5 (01:39:49):
Who it was for real.

Speaker 4 (01:39:51):
Yeah, I was like, I was.

Speaker 15 (01:39:53):
Like, all right, so it was Oklahoma ever in the
mix field? No, No, like you don't like Ocaho. No, No,
because it's.

Speaker 4 (01:40:04):
Like, bro, I used to have Mike Stoops.

Speaker 14 (01:40:06):
And them come to my games when I was in
Little League, like when I was fifth sixth grade. I
used to see them in the stands. You feel me, So,
I'm like, it's not like y'all didn't know who I was.
I've been like I've been that in football. You feel me. So,
I'm like when they got to college, I'm like, I
gotta I got a total university.

Speaker 4 (01:40:25):
It's fifteen minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
From my house.

Speaker 4 (01:40:26):
Didn't even get an offer from them.

Speaker 14 (01:40:28):
You feel me so, Like when you came after these schools,
I felt disrespected. Y'all closer to me, Yo, Oklahoma is
an hour, hour and some change away. Oklahoma State is
forty five minutes away.

Speaker 4 (01:40:38):
You've ben me. So I'm like, I don't got offers
from y'all. Like, I'm like, nah, I'm not stall some
type of way. Yeah, I felt some type of way.

Speaker 14 (01:40:44):
Sure, that's why when we played them, I was on
the ass. But but funny story about that is when
I went to the draft, Bob Stoops was the first
one to come up to me when we was in
the meeting room and he was just like, man, I
love your game. Here he was when Lincoln Riley he
was like, I love your game. He's like, man, he

(01:41:04):
was like, you changed my whole perspective on looking that way.
But I'm telling you after I got recruited, but I
had coaches telling me, you know we are we're committed
to never missing a dominant rough again.

Speaker 4 (01:41:17):
After I got community.

Speaker 14 (01:41:18):
Uh, after I committed and went to university, the next
two to three classes, Bro, we had the more people
going leaving out of Oklahoma than we ever had like
the last decade.

Speaker 4 (01:41:28):
You feel me so like it played out and worked
out I was supposed to.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
That was nice to hear.

Speaker 4 (01:41:33):
Yeah it was. I was like, I was like that
I needed.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
What was it like going from a saving to coach Crwdon.

Speaker 4 (01:41:43):
Complete different, complete opposites. You know, you know Grew. I
love Grew, love Grew.

Speaker 14 (01:41:49):
He is so like charismatic and so like like everything
he does he just does it with energy. We be
in the meetings and like he's one of them. Coaches
where we and me and you can know somebody messed
up and you'd be like, get on his ass. He
messed up, and he like he gonna praise you when
he gonna coach you. He not gonna really too much
get on you like in that sense, you know. And

(01:42:10):
that was the thing that I used to like as
a young guy coming in. You know, you nervous, you
around all these vets and things like that, and you
like he gave me, you know what I'm saying, grace
And I love playing for him, man Like he to
me as a player's coach. He go out his way
to you know, help guys all the time, whether it
was on the field or off the field.

Speaker 4 (01:42:28):
And it was like it was it was fun for me. Man.
I love grew to this day. I still love grow.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
You felt like it was the same for you, Like
going from college to the NFL. Like I've told the
story before, Rahie Morris, where I like miss a tackle
and I came on the sideline thinking like Coach Polini Nebraska,
like you're getting cussed out, Like you have this anxiety
or fear in your mind to like not mess up
on the field. Then when you did, you you heard
about it. But in the NFL, I felt like it
was you had like this grace to where they'd be like, hey,

(01:42:54):
if you're gonna missmiss on the inside, shut and I'm thinking,
oh fuck, I missed a tack on there, kind of
patting me like, hey, next time happens, like just if
you missmiss on this side.

Speaker 1 (01:43:02):
And we had completely different experiences. College was like once
I got to my senior year, like the I could
do no wrong, like if I messed up the coach,
you know what you did right, And I was like, yeah,
I did this wrong. I'm like, all right, you can
fix that. When I got to the NFL, I was
Ken wizen Hunt's first draft pick, so I was like
his little like his little darling.

Speaker 4 (01:43:19):
His little baby.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
He would baby me a bunch. But Bob Bosta at
the offensive line coach, any misstep, footwork anything, he was
on my ass like like freshman in college.

Speaker 4 (01:43:28):
See that's how my physician coach. Really But we was
cool though.

Speaker 14 (01:43:32):
But that's the thing, like I feel like it's different
when you respect somebody and you feel like they come
into you at like you know, at a place of respect.
But he was only like that, like footwork because I'm like,
even in college, obviously you learned, you know, schemes and
things like that, but like I'm like, what do you
mean you want me to do this footwork? I'm like,
I'm used to this footwork. Like I feel like I'm

(01:43:52):
out of place doing the style that you want. And
like that was something that I had to That was
probably the biggest learning curve that I had to do,
was just like get comfortable in the system that they
wanted me to play, you know. But that was even
like I remember one time I was I was going
into it with him with Kirby, and he was like, man,

(01:44:13):
I've coached this guy, this guy, and this guy he
got the calling people like work done and all that.
I'm like, okay, I'm like, here's some mythic, it's some method.
And then literally, when I felt like I trusted and
believed in what he was telling me, like I just
started taking off.

Speaker 1 (01:44:28):
Man, this is crazy off. Much like respect, how far
respect goes with coaches, because there is always I have
like an issue with authority where it's like if coaches
comes at me right away, I tend to step back
a little bit. But once the respect is there, it's like,
I'll basically die for you whatever you need me to do.
I'm literally for you. When you walk into Oakland, I
mean obviously the facilities are way different. They're about to

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move to Vegas. There was a Bama. We've been to Bama.
It was like walking into a locker room with guys
like Richie Incognito, Max Crosby, Antonio Brown, and like Derek Carr,
who's like this like perfect little choir boy. Like was
that just a massive culture shark for you? And You're
think to yourself, the taxes calfln your ass. I just
want to bring that up too.

Speaker 4 (01:45:08):
Yeah, I mean I defer my I defer my signing motives.
So we got the Vegas but.

Speaker 14 (01:45:14):
Yeah, real, but nah man, they when I came in,
it was weird because like we had older Vets, but
we had Vets that was like older that wasn't like
they're literally at the back end or their career. So
it was like they was good but not not really
so like and then I feel like for me, people

(01:45:36):
was on me harder because I was the first round pick.
So like some people were like, you know you, like
you're gonna have to prove yourself, like I'm like, all right, whatever,
like you know what I'm saying, like all over again.
Max looked like, what's the dude off of Harry Potter?
Like now boy at the time, you know, hey, that's

(01:45:59):
my dog.

Speaker 4 (01:45:59):
I let you Max hang No, but men, So, like
I would say, the best thing for me was all
rookie class.

Speaker 14 (01:46:05):
Everybody came in Max. You know some of these other
guys that's not that's not on the tea or not
in the league.

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
No more.

Speaker 14 (01:46:11):
We was all tight, you know, Keishan Nixon. We was
all tight and so like we used to always do
stuff together.

Speaker 4 (01:46:17):
And I feel like that made.

Speaker 14 (01:46:18):
It a lot easier my rookie year to like get
acclimated with everything because you know, in the pros, people
don't understand, like they think everybody's just friends, and like
in the pros, it's just like this is not true.

Speaker 1 (01:46:29):
Like I said, that was the craziest difference for me.

Speaker 14 (01:46:31):
Yeah, like college, you know, everybody's friends, Like we all
friends in college, Like in pros, it's not like for
some people, this is literally a job. And for a
lot of people they have families, so like, you know,
you leaving here them like man, I gotta go home.

Speaker 4 (01:46:42):
And rate to be a dad, Like I can't go
home and play video games with you, like you know
what I'm saying, like things like that.

Speaker 14 (01:46:49):
So that was like a big, big difference for me too.
But man, that locker room then was definitely different. I
remember my first like all all moment was I remember
we lost the game and I was in the locker
mad because like you know, a ba at Bama probably
lost three maybe four games in three years I was there.

Speaker 4 (01:47:10):
So I'm like, I'm used to winning.

Speaker 14 (01:47:13):
So I'm in the locker room mad, and I remember
the Evans came up to me like they laughing and shit,
and I'm like, the fuck they'll laughing.

Speaker 4 (01:47:18):
For us, So I take it. I get mad, you
know what I'm saying, Like what I got going on.

Speaker 14 (01:47:22):
They're like, man, you're gonna learn like in this league,
you're gonna lose like you not. You gotta get used
to all these other kind of stuff. But I was
like that like mentality. I remember, I was like, we're
not gonna ever win like that. If people don't take
this a little more personal. It's one thing to not
obviously be crying after the game, but like don't be
sitting acting like around like you like you happy that

(01:47:44):
you know what I'm saying that we lost, like that
was always a thing. But I was always one of
them guys too that I felt like, I mean, you
played with me I always every day, I'm trying to
bust my ass every day. I'm trying to I be
the if not the hardest worker, top three, you know,
and I'm trying to like figure it out every day.
So like when somebody did stuff like that, it just

(01:48:04):
it wasn't respect it for me.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
And that's he's not lying. Josh would be visually pissed
off after games. I remember the second stint we came
and you know, the boys wanted to go on the
logo with the Chiefs and we got our ass whooped.
Come on and Josh is in the locker room after
the game, fu me about like, you know, whether guys
are happy about it? But he was, Yeah, he legitimately

(01:48:27):
gets pissed off anytime. Anytime that we lost, he'd be
asking guys. He'd be talking to guys like he pulled meself,
like hey, you just got her, Like what are you
seeing right now? You'll be asking guys that He'd be
like pulling everybody see the.

Speaker 14 (01:48:39):
Problem with me. Well, let's first let me get to
logo question. I told him to not do that. Shit
is dumb. We are their step brothers, We're the little
We're the little brother at that point. We ain't beat
them enough to deserve that right.

Speaker 4 (01:48:50):
We ain't.

Speaker 14 (01:48:50):
We're not even winning enough to deserve that right to
go do that. You know what I'm saying, Like it
was dumb. I always I remember what I said exactly
because I didn't go do it. I was the old
I'll stayed. I'm like, they're not gonna catch me on
that motheruing logo and.

Speaker 4 (01:49:02):
Then we lose, and this everywhere we lose, it was
will Is in the middle. Yeah I was in the middle.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:49:09):
But who was Amber?

Speaker 4 (01:49:10):
I told everybody it was Yanick. He didn't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
Start has that mentality and a working.

Speaker 4 (01:49:19):
Started.

Speaker 9 (01:49:20):
He did.

Speaker 4 (01:49:21):
He getting everybody, and I'm thinking everybody should do it.
But I told him.

Speaker 14 (01:49:24):
I was like my Zach words was if y'all gonna
do better, stand on that ship. I'm like, we better
win literally because you can't do it like that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:31):
And I scored that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
Game and we got we got blue out.

Speaker 4 (01:49:34):
We got blue out. I said, well, never I brought.
I was hot in the locker room. I was hot.
But no, they go back to his points when I
first came back, and I'm thinking, ship, oh, we're not good.
Uniforms are good, We're not uniforms sick.

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
You best uniforms the sick awesome. But hey, Yannick and
Doc Way, I have no idea why that dude has
not like stuck with the team for a long time
because his rookie year I played him. The first time
we played him was Thursday night in Nissan and his
attitude of mentality, like he was talking to me like
he was in the league for ten years.

Speaker 4 (01:50:06):
He got he's got, Yeah, he's got.

Speaker 1 (01:50:07):
And then Patrick Omama, who will played with the Michigan
he was playing for Jacksonville, came off. He's like that
kid works, he's gonna be good, and he obviously was.
He's a good football player. But he's just jumped around
so much.

Speaker 14 (01:50:17):
You know, sometimes I think people can get in their
own way. There's no doubta, you know, and that'd be
a lot of things. And like sometimes you don't feel
like like you know with me, like towards the end,
like you say, I used.

Speaker 4 (01:50:29):
To ask him I'm like, we came in. I'm like,
what do you see?

Speaker 14 (01:50:33):
Because I was fully committed to trying to make the
team better, you know what I'm saying. I'm like, and
I'm trying everything from talking to people I wouldn't even
talk to, you know what I'm saying, From coaching more
than I've ever coached, to like being a leader and
things like that, like trying to lead by example all
of these things. And I'm like, bro, it ain't nothing.
It don't feel like nothing is changing, you know what

(01:50:53):
I'm saying. So I'm like I used to ask Hi
when we got a guy in. I'm like, but what
do you see? You've been on winning programs, You've been
in you know what I'm saying, You've been on good teams.
Like what's the difference? And like you say, I used
to pat that game. I was so mad after that game.
But I feel like I feel like I cussed out
some people like bro, like, but I was always the
guy that like, I don't mind making people uncomfortable because

(01:51:16):
I feel like, one, if I'm doing if I'm doing
everything right, I got that right.

Speaker 5 (01:51:21):
One.

Speaker 14 (01:51:22):
Two you should know that I care about you and
love you enough and respect you enough to know that
I'm not attacking you. I'm coming at you from a
good place. And it's also a time and place for everything.
Don't get me wrong, But like wanting to win and
wanting to fix that organization, I was all in. So
when I started to feel like the organization wasn't all

(01:51:42):
in on the same things that I wanted to that's
when I know I have to leave.

Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
How hard was it to leave the Raiders?

Speaker 4 (01:51:49):
Why I never wanted to bro Bro?

Speaker 14 (01:51:52):
I spent a lot of money on a house I built,
custom fully, custom built.

Speaker 4 (01:51:58):
And never stayed in. Like, so you gotta you gotta
know I was investing.

Speaker 14 (01:52:02):
I was investing there. I was doing franchises. Like you
know what I'm saying, I'm in the community, I'm doing
work in the community, everything, Like I'm thinking, like, okay,
like this is where I'm gonna be, Like I'm playing
in everything there, you know what I'm saying. But like
it gets to a certain point where you're not gonna
keep disrespecting me. You only got so many times to

(01:52:22):
be like fuck you before I'm like fuck you too.
You feel me like literally like and that's how I
felt about it, Cause it's like, Okay, don't get me wrong,
I have a great relationship with Mark Davis. I love
Mark Davis. Has nothing to do with Mark Davis. But
like you bringing in these coaches every other year, new coaches,
and it's like, now these new coaches is telling me
I didn't already have three a thousand yard seasons. You

(01:52:44):
telling me I gotta prove myself. Like, oh, like I'm
a rookie. You treating me like a rookie.

Speaker 4 (01:52:48):
You're telling now I got to play in the Hall
of Fame game.

Speaker 14 (01:52:51):
And then we start losing, and then you feel like
you need me, and then you play me. I'll play good,
but then afterwards you basically like, yeah, you played good,
but you're gonna we'rerunna fresh time A tag him you
we're going to play. And I looked at him and
I'm like, I'm not gonna play. And where he was
going wrong was where he was going wrong was he

(01:53:15):
was talking too much. And I'm not gonna say who
it was, but it's a guy to make decisions. And
I'm like, he's talking too much and thinking it's not
gonna get back to me, and everything is getting back
to me, you know what. I'm saying, so I'm knowing
what's being said on the inside for real, you feel me?

Speaker 4 (01:53:29):
So like he's basically like, oh yeah, he needs.

Speaker 14 (01:53:32):
The money's I'm like, I don't need no money, Like
I could quit playing right now. I'm great, Like you
feel me. So I'm like, where are you getting this
information from? Like why do you think that you got
the leverage when I just let the NFL and everything
there is for a running back. I'm like, so you're
telling me, Okay, I'm only gonna be twenty five at

(01:53:52):
the time.

Speaker 4 (01:53:52):
You're telling me like, I can't get paid, so.

Speaker 14 (01:53:54):
You already deny my fifth your option, which was the
smartest move you should have made was to accept that
you feel me.

Speaker 4 (01:54:00):
But you don't do that, and then you're like, oh, we're.

Speaker 14 (01:54:04):
Gonna franchise tag you, and the franchise tag is two
million more, so you're gonna play on.

Speaker 4 (01:54:08):
The franchise SAG.

Speaker 14 (01:54:09):
But whole time, Bro and my mom, me and my agent,
we like, by not playing, I'm gonna come week eight,
week eight so I can get credit this season and
basically force my way out.

Speaker 4 (01:54:21):
That's what that was my That was my planning. If
they don't want to pay me.

Speaker 2 (01:54:24):
Was the first fracturing of the relationship was when they
didn't pick up the fifth year option.

Speaker 14 (01:54:28):
I didn't really care about the fifth year option. So
a lot of people think that that was the problem.
I didn't want them to take the fifth years because
I knew I was gonna get.

Speaker 4 (01:54:35):
Paid more than that. I wanted them to pay.

Speaker 14 (01:54:37):
Yeah, I'm like, it's benefited me by not picking up
the fifth year option.

Speaker 4 (01:54:41):
Like I'm all for that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 14 (01:54:43):
Like, I'm like, cool, Like I'm good with that, but
like it was just the fact that I was legitimately
sixty five percent of the offense that year and you're
telling me that you will not pay the guy that
did everything for the team.

Speaker 4 (01:54:58):
I'm like, how did that make sense? You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 14 (01:55:01):
It's like, basically, you already tried me at the beginning,
so you're already trying to be cool with me, but
I'm already really don't.

Speaker 4 (01:55:06):
Like you, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 14 (01:55:08):
But like it's a business, You're not gonna like everybody
you feel me like, and so I'm already like, you
know what I'm saying, I'm gonna respect you. I'm not
gonna disrespect you and stuff like that, but like I'm
gonna be like, yeah, if I got a option, I'm
not gonna fuck with you.

Speaker 4 (01:55:20):
Like you know what I'm saying. So that's basically what
it came down to.

Speaker 14 (01:55:24):
And when it started to get like I say, into
the conversation, what made it worse?

Speaker 4 (01:55:29):
Bro?

Speaker 14 (01:55:30):
When it comes to the Raiders Bro, And it really
hurt my heart because I try to stay. I did
everything in my power to stay. My agent was even
getting he was getting mad at me because he like, Bro,
at what point are you gonna be like fuck these dudes?
Because I'm like, look, I got six teams talking to
me about more more money than you.

Speaker 4 (01:55:49):
I'm like, can you match that? They say no.

Speaker 14 (01:55:51):
I said, okay, that's fine. I'm like, can we meet
in the middle. Can we get the median of that?

Speaker 4 (01:55:55):
They say no. I say okay, because that was offering
me ten years. I'm like, okay, ten a year.

Speaker 14 (01:56:00):
I'm like, cool, Can I get some The Raiders were
off the Raiders was I was like, can I get
some incentives? I'm like, maybe I hit them, maybe I don't.
They said no. Once they said that, I said, we
ain't got none to talk about y'all, let me know
where I staying. And the crazy thing about it was
when I had a meeting with Mark Davis. I said
before when I was playing on sitting out because I
missed all the camp that last year I was there.

Speaker 4 (01:56:21):
I missed all the camp.

Speaker 1 (01:56:22):
When did your last year there?

Speaker 4 (01:56:25):
What the year before this?

Speaker 14 (01:56:26):
So what is that twenty twenty three, twenty three, twenty three?

Speaker 4 (01:56:29):
The fifth right, yeah, the fifth year.

Speaker 14 (01:56:31):
I missed all the camp because I'm like I said
on Mark, and I'm like, look, I'm not asking you
to pay me my work because you can't, like and
I know that's realistic, but like, just don't disrespect me.
That's literally all I asked. I'm like, bro, just don't
disrespect me. I was like, give me a deal. And
then the crazy part about it is none of the
deals was even long term deals.

Speaker 4 (01:56:50):
Like I'm like, yeah, bro, we ain't got nothing to
talk about.

Speaker 14 (01:56:53):
Like I got all these other teams, all these other
like you know, having disrespect and I'm keep trying to
come back to y'all and show y'all love and show
y'all respect, and it ain't reciprocated. So I'm like, we
don't really have too much to talk about it. And
then what's crazy is I fucking pull up?

Speaker 4 (01:57:09):
This is crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:57:10):
So this is this is two week one bro.

Speaker 14 (01:57:13):
Before I came, when they were trying to get me
to come sign, you know, you got to you got
the deadline, right to sign the deadline. And before I
came to sign, Max, Me and Max on the phone.
He's Max trying to make it work, you know, like
obviously Max is a dude. He like, man, like I
don't understand it, like whatever. He was like, man, please
just come. So we come up there and we got

(01:57:35):
like an hour left before we got to sign the
paper or uh, you know, on a deal or not.
And dude comes up to my car. Me and Max
is in the car. Max in the car with me.
We sitting and he's talking to us, but while on
his phone. He don't but he's moving his phone around.

(01:57:55):
He's on the phone with an interviewer with a reporter,
literally on the phone with a reporter while he's talking to.

Speaker 2 (01:58:03):
Me, trying to trying to get conversation out of you.

Speaker 14 (01:58:07):
About so anytime that I know it's one report over
there that anytime he had anything to say, and they'd
be like where are people getting this information from. I'm like,
it's coming from them. It's literally coming from them, swear.
So I was like, it was like it was just
a weird situation. Bro, I'm telling you, it was the
weirdest situation ever. And it has nothing to do with
the greatest organization. It's more so the people that they

(01:58:30):
had in r at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:58:31):
It's like there's like a saying right, like it's like
the good news, like the stuff like say you're in
the community, Like the good news always come from like
the local news, but all the bad news, the national
news comes from internal like comes from the team.

Speaker 4 (01:58:45):
Yes, I'm telling you. And when I seen that, and
you know what made it worse. I seen it. I
didn't say nothing. Max was like, bro, did you see
who was on the phone with I said, okay, so
I'm not tripping. I was like, I thought, you're not
even you know how sometimes you'd be like and like
I might be yeah, I'm like I'm doing too much.

Speaker 14 (01:59:03):
But like when Max brought it up, I was like, okay,
I know I'm bugging. I'm like yeah, But that's when
I knew, like it was over with, you know, Like
even though I was going there, Like coming back that
year to play.

Speaker 4 (01:59:16):
I was like, I knew it was over with. I
knew that the relationship was over with.

Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
Knowing where you're at now when you look back at it,
what learns do you have from like that process, Because
I feel like a lot of guys too, When you
get into free agency or you taste the teeth of
the business for the first time, it kind of catches
you off guard because you're thinking, you know, like college,
like loyalty, you perform, well, they're gonna pay you, or
they're going to take care of you. Playing hurd, it's honorable,

(01:59:41):
that'll get you pay. You think all these different things,
and then you come to find out looking back, you're like,
all right, I see why this went the way that
it did.

Speaker 14 (01:59:47):
Bro I tell people all the time to play hurt,
you gotta be one mentally, you gotta be different. But
like once I got to the point where I'm like, damn,
I've played hurt all the time. I have done played with
a fractured shoulder, you know, the whole year from like
over half of the year with this shoulder, and now

(02:00:09):
it's time to get paid. Me doing that is really
bad for me because now you like against me, it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:17):
Might not be as good, or they say, oh, you're
hurt a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (02:00:19):
Brog will tell you something different. You're thinking that he
don't get it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:29):
But then when the time, yeah.

Speaker 14 (02:00:32):
Man, And then you think that if you sow, if
you do things right and you be loyal, that it's
gonna come back. But it's a business. You got to
understand the business. And that's my biggest thing. Like, looking back,
the thing that I would change the most is I
would probably have handled it a little differently.

Speaker 4 (02:00:46):
Uh, I feel like.

Speaker 14 (02:00:50):
I would have probably bro Honestly, I would have handled
a little different because I really never spoke on it.
I just like let them create the narrative the whole
time and then let people assume what they wanted to
assume was going on with me. For the longest, people
was like, oh, it's about money. Oh it's about that.
I'm like, it was never about that. Literally, is no
point was it about that? I'm like, if that was
the point, then I would took the first offer I had,

(02:01:12):
which was a lot more than what they offered me.

Speaker 4 (02:01:13):
You know what I'm saying, Like, but that's just that's
just the nature of the beast.

Speaker 1 (02:01:18):
Yeah, real, So you would have been more vocal publicly
about what was going on.

Speaker 4 (02:01:22):
I think I would have been more direct for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:01:24):
At any point was your agent sitting there being like, hey,
we have to write some sort of narrative as well.
You send them playing chess out here.

Speaker 4 (02:01:29):
He was more so like if this motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (02:01:34):
He just right here, so funny, he.

Speaker 4 (02:01:37):
Was like, if this motherfucker do this, Like we're going
to do this.

Speaker 14 (02:01:40):
We had a game plan for everything, you know, even
like stats, we started posting stats. It's like it's hard
to deny affects, like regardless of what you want to say, like.

Speaker 2 (02:01:49):
Oh absolutely, and like you know, when they didn't claim
your fifth yr option, Like I remember just being on
the bus and talking about how well you were performing
when they didn't pick up your fifty years exactly. It's
like you're doing a lot of different things that yeah,
it is undeniable, like how greatable player you are.

Speaker 14 (02:02:02):
And then like like I was telling him, like, bro,
from when I've gotten the league, I'm like, don't nobody
have more resting yards than me since I've been in
the league, like Derek Henry. Besides Derek Herry, like you
see everybody else that's came in with my year or on,
like I'm leading, So I'm like, I don't know what
more you want me to do? Basically, it was my

(02:02:23):
point with them, I'm like, bro, like I'm a leader
in the locker room, I'm never late to stuff. I'm
not I'm not in trouble or none of that stuff.
Like what more do you want from me?

Speaker 4 (02:02:32):
You know what I'm saying. I'm like, I'm giving you
everything I got and we still losing. Like you know
what I'm saying, like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:02:39):
This is this is during the narrative in the NFL
that the running back position is losing its value because
nobody outplays their second contract. They only play their first contract.
So was there a level of you taking that personal?
Did you talk to like an acause.

Speaker 2 (02:02:51):
Around that same time and all that?

Speaker 1 (02:02:52):
But him Austin, there was a handful of other guys
that were like these guys, obviously I have high productions. Yeah,
but it was because at this point in time, there
was only one guy in the NFL who got a
second contract that outperformed his first contract, and that was
Derek Henricky.

Speaker 4 (02:03:09):
Yep, because Todd Early and Zeke they was like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:03:12):
Ever going back when like went downhill. So, hey, I'm
a premium was a bad business move at the time,
which I'm sure was playing a huge factor with the
higher ups of the Raiders.

Speaker 14 (02:03:22):
Yeah, and I get that, but it's like, Okay, if
that's the case, I barely played in college, don't have them,
don't have that trail, don't have that trade at all.
You feel me so like, and then when I get
into the league, it's like, Okay, you can say that,
but I'm still the youngest guy doing it. I'm the youngest,
Like I you know, I I just turned twenty seven.

Speaker 4 (02:03:42):
This is my seventh year. This is gonna be my
seven year in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (02:03:45):
Did you imagine being your first year in the NFL
and like can't buy a drink? Like literally literally, Hey, Josh,
you want to know the club camp?

Speaker 4 (02:03:53):
Yeah, I couldn't even rent a car. I couldn't get
a rental them. I swear I couldn't even I'm like,
I want to rental the help.

Speaker 1 (02:04:03):
That is funny. Literally, Yeah, twenty seven years old, seven
years in the league.

Speaker 2 (02:04:07):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (02:04:08):
And now it seems like you, along with Derek, along
with Austin likes yes, thank you obviously, a huge piece,
Like you guys have essentially changed the narrative in the
NFL that the running back position needs to be more
value than it is now.

Speaker 14 (02:04:22):
But it's coming full circle, Like it's literally coming full circle,
you see, and guys start to get paid. Like I'll
keep telling everybody Jamier and Bison, like whatever they get is, like,
how you gonna know what the market really is because
those are guys, you know what I'm saying. And the
thing is what I was trying to tell the Raiders is.

Speaker 4 (02:04:40):
It's not too many guys. It's only about really like
six guys, six to eight guys like that. You really,
I would say, you can't really replace what they do.
And I felt like I was one of those guys.

Speaker 14 (02:04:53):
You feel me some I'm like, you can't put me
in a category where the running back that has never
had a thousand yards in the season, you can't put
me in.

Speaker 4 (02:05:00):
These other categories.

Speaker 14 (02:05:01):
You're trying to put me in with guys that's never
finished the whole season, you know what I'm saying, Like
things like that, I'm like, we gotta be talking at
a whole different playing field. Yeah, And uh, that was
one thing that we were trying to push. That was
like a narrative that we were trying to push, but
it played out I was supposed.

Speaker 1 (02:05:15):
To well you guys ever, and there was like rumors
going around about the running backs start in the room
kind of like yeah, Pa, is that ever a real thing?

Speaker 14 (02:05:22):
Yeah we are, Yeah, we all did. But the problem
is BRO is just the simple truth BO Like a
lot of guys is selfish and like and that's really
what we got on that call.

Speaker 4 (02:05:36):
And it was a lot of guys on the call.

Speaker 14 (02:05:38):
It was a lot of guys that didn't get on
the call, and it felt like it was only two
or three of us talking the whole time.

Speaker 4 (02:05:44):
Everybody else really had nothing to you know.

Speaker 1 (02:05:46):
The vocal guys in that conversation.

Speaker 14 (02:05:47):
Yeah, because I was being honest about what I was
being told. You know what I'm saying, like because I'm
one thing about me, man, I don't I want it's
enough money out here for everybody, and I want to
see everybody win. So like for me, I'm like I'm
telling him, like, look, this is what they're saying for me,
this is what they're saying. Like me and Sa Kwan
seeing it taxt back and forth with what you're hearing
from hey or what you're hearing from heryor like you

(02:06:08):
know what I'm saying, like and we basically like, look,
this is this is the market.

Speaker 4 (02:06:11):
And I'm like, man, look I'm up here with this dude.

Speaker 14 (02:06:14):
You're gonna have to pay me up here with this dude,
regardless of what any kind of contract looked like, you
know what I'm saying. So that was something that like
me and him talked a lot about, but the guys did, but.

Speaker 4 (02:06:25):
Nobody stuck to it. Like I remember.

Speaker 14 (02:06:29):
Austin Eckler was talking, uh, Joe Mixon was talking and
they was. We was like, guys, like, okay, are we
all not gonna show up to camp? Like is that
something that we all agreed on a lot of people
talked about it or are we not signing? Everybody was like,
we're not gonna sign. Dude signed three days later. I'm like, bro,

(02:06:51):
I promise bo, and it was I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna out nobody, but like it was a dude
that was talking and literally something next week I'm like,
so I already knew, like I said, like I knew
it was gonna break down because without unity, you ain't
gonna have nothing.

Speaker 4 (02:07:05):
We ain't got no leverage, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:07:07):
So I was like, you even at the macro level
with the NFLPA, it's like when you're trying to get
things shifted in the CBA and being at the meetings
and everything else, like you see where it's still like divided.

Speaker 4 (02:07:19):
Nothing would ever get changed in the NFL because the
people for our like top guys to our lower guys,
it's so such a big margin, yeah, that nothing would
ever change. Because if I'm a guy that's making five
hundred thousand a year and I'm like scraping to get that,
it's like you you can't tell me a guy that's making.

Speaker 14 (02:07:40):
Ten twenty twenty million a year to be like, yeah, bro,
we don't need to play football this year. He's gonna
be like I need to play football this ye, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:07:48):
So, like exactly, they.

Speaker 14 (02:07:49):
Understand that they got that leverage, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
and that's it's only what maybe two or three percent
of the gods is making over you know, twelve million
a year in the NFL and everybody else's you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:08:02):
So it's like, you're not going to ever win that.

Speaker 2 (02:08:04):
Yeah, signing bonuses Like I want to say, when the
CBA stuff has happened and there's like one hundred thousand
dollars signing like little bonuses or something that it's just
you're right. It's like the guys that need it that year,
it's like, hey, I get that you might be straight
for the next several years, but my ass like, I
need this.

Speaker 1 (02:08:23):
Technique. You just put a dang a little bit in front,
and then the majority of guys are gonna move because
you're right two three percent. I feel like the closest
a moment that was almost changing it was Kirk Cousins
when he got the fully guaranteed contract. I think that's
what we put a lot of guys that pause, and
everyone's like, Okay, if this needs to happen, then quarterbacks
need to start this, start doing this, And it felt
like it was about to happen, But then I think

(02:08:44):
you're right. Greed gets in the way. Truly, for the
NFL to change the way the way they go about
paying everybody, it would take a full generation of NFL
players to essentially bend the knee and say I'm going
to make less money so the future can have more.

Speaker 2 (02:08:59):
We needed you to do it. I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (02:09:03):
Because you're you're talking about you're talking about like selfish guys.
I'm thinking to myself, like like in twenty eighteen, I'm like,
I have the opportunity to be the highest paid guy.
I guarantee was, you know, sixty seventy percent of my contract.
I was like, and I think you even brought up
to me like You're like, hey, if you hold out
for this, But I'm thinking myself, fuck that that sounds awesome.

(02:09:24):
Somebody else will be that hero.

Speaker 2 (02:09:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:09:26):
Now I'm sitting in a garage so.

Speaker 6 (02:09:30):
More.

Speaker 14 (02:09:31):
I feel like if a lot more quarterbacks actually got
on that train to be like, yeah, we're not playing
the NFL teams a lot faster too.

Speaker 4 (02:09:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:09:40):
But it's interesting because like like Kirk Cousins does his
thing and he gets whatever one hundred and eighty or whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:09:44):
Whenever he wants to get to Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (02:09:46):
Whenever he went to Minnesota, and then like you see
like Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes always guys their contracts. I mean,
Patrick Mahomes is what half a billion dollars?

Speaker 2 (02:09:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:09:55):
Right, Yeah, the numbers are so astronomical. It's like, how
do you say, and like, what's guaranteed to fifty?

Speaker 4 (02:10:01):
Like fifty the contract. Who's the last person to give
fully guarantee?

Speaker 1 (02:10:07):
No, Deshaun. I think DeShawn had like eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (02:10:09):
No, DeShawn got full guaranteed when he went to the Yes, bro.

Speaker 4 (02:10:14):
Yeah, I mean the Browns fucked that up.

Speaker 2 (02:10:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:10:17):
Yeah, I feel bad saying that to Shawn, but like.

Speaker 2 (02:10:20):
Because it's like you you know, you got that, you
got the top guys who will get the full guaranteed.
You also need that level of play to be there
to to also solidify guys getting there.

Speaker 1 (02:10:29):
Because that's an example where it's like he gets to
fully guaranteed and then he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (02:10:32):
Obviously have to, right, So we wanted to have that. Yeah,
like this is exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:10:35):
Why we don't do this. Yeah, yeah, because it's yeah,
it sucks, man, it's it sucks obviously, Like a lot
of people watching the shore like, yeah, I wish you
get five thousand dollars a year, yeah or whatever, there's
nine to fifty whatever that whatever the minimum is for
a vet guy. But yeah, massive changes have to happen,
but massive sacrifice has to happen, but change to happen.

Speaker 2 (02:10:54):
Sure, was you going to making the transition to Green Bay?
Was it excitement out of the gate? Were you kind
of like is the grass gonna be greener because you
had a place for five years?

Speaker 1 (02:11:05):
I was.

Speaker 14 (02:11:07):
It was like bittersweet, like obviously because I didn't want
to leave. But when I looked at the team, I'm like, shit,
they winning, you know, winning Trump everything, bro, Like you
know what I'm saying. Like, so I was like yeah.
And then obviously Pisachia was over here, probably one of
my favorite coaches at all time.

Speaker 2 (02:11:26):
That's somebody who can coach coaches ask of coach you hard,
motherfuck you literally and then has just these words and
builds this relationship on the side to any time he's
doing it, you don't feel any type of way about.

Speaker 4 (02:11:37):
It because he was just a real as a coach.
He's the only coach I've ever had that to be like,
look see, look you fucking around And that's why they
upstairs talking about how to get ridio ass right now,
like either you figure it out or you ain't gonna
be here, And like he was the only one that'll
be real and be honest and that's all people be
asking for. It's like, don't tell me one thing and

(02:11:57):
then do another thing, right, Like, just tell me the truth,
whether it's ugly or whatever, just tell me the truth.

Speaker 14 (02:12:02):
And he's always been that type of coach. So like
it's just a different respect. So when I knew that,
I'm like, okay, and then I came I'm like, damn,
it's quiet. I'm like, I don't here ship the food
spots closed at the eight o'clock. I'm like, damn, this
shit is different, but like it almost forces you to

(02:12:24):
lock in. It's like so much like college that I've
ever been around in the pro, in a pro stage
where it's like football and nothing else.

Speaker 2 (02:12:34):
Like you know what I'm saying right here, Like we
was just on Uber eze. I think we got we
just the only spot really we could get was Buffalo Yeah,
but also Buffalbins does.

Speaker 4 (02:12:43):
Out here might be the best Buffalowys.

Speaker 1 (02:12:46):
Read I mean that should take massive prits, a five
star restaurant out here.

Speaker 2 (02:12:50):
Respect.

Speaker 1 (02:12:50):
But the Midwest is just it's just crazy, like Vegas.
The way Vegas is literally our Uber from the airport
to this Airbnb. This lady had the most midwayt stern accent. Ever,
she didn't stop talking the entire time. Shout Jolane. She
was awesome, Like she just talked my ear off about
literally everything. It'd be quiet for like ten seconds. Will
and JP didn't help me at all the whole time

(02:13:13):
on toking my ear off the whole time, just talking
about whatever came to her mind. It's like, Yo, this
is true Midwest. It's so crazy how different it is.

Speaker 14 (02:13:23):
Across the street. Dude taught me for like two hours.
Bro like bro, like he got a big ass statue.
What is statue in his backyard of like Vance Lombardi?

Speaker 2 (02:13:35):
Like out Hey, So for everybody everybody watching right now
with the airbnb we are in that we were running
out for the NFL Draft weekend. Was the airbnb the
house that Josh lived in for like two months when
he first got here, which is He's like, you talked
to you talked to the crazy dude across the street.

Speaker 1 (02:13:52):
Yeah, yeah, so this this is a nice airbnb. Shout
out this Airbnb. However, you talked about building a custom
home in Vegas, you never got to step foot in.
Did you end up selling it.

Speaker 4 (02:14:01):
In the process?

Speaker 1 (02:14:02):
Right now, in the process of selling it right now,
have you ever gone just like stayed the night felt
about it.

Speaker 14 (02:14:07):
I've only walked I've only walked in it one time,
and it wasn't fully done.

Speaker 4 (02:14:12):
Really, it wasn't fully done.

Speaker 1 (02:14:14):
Yeah, the gut man walking in and like walking through
a place of this is It's not a custom home.
It's not something you put your heart in love.

Speaker 14 (02:14:22):
Come on, man, when I say it was one of
the most stressful, stressful times I ever went because I
didn't know how much really went into the house. You
know what I'm saying, from every like backsplash to like
every little detail that I could that you could put
into house.

Speaker 4 (02:14:36):
It was crazy.

Speaker 14 (02:14:37):
They need that, it needs your opinion. I'm like, bro,
it's three fireplaces in the house, like pick something. They
like you got to pick something in there, like, but
that was the whole thing. And then I had like
so I was in Southern Highlands, so like it's actually
down the street from Derek Carr and Gruden's house in Vegas,
and I was like, I had like the biggest lot

(02:14:57):
in the community. So I'm like I'm doing you know,
I'm sooping the house up. But I'm not too much.

Speaker 4 (02:15:04):
Mad about it. Man, I'm I'm doing to make almost
double what I spent, so I'm not too mad. I'm
not too mad about it.

Speaker 1 (02:15:13):
Yeah God.

Speaker 4 (02:15:14):
And then here, you know, here is way way cheaper.

Speaker 2 (02:15:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, way farther.

Speaker 4 (02:15:22):
I got an eight bedroom crib. Now don't even need
them all brou I'm like, this is crazy, like this
much house like for nothing. Like I'm like, okay, you.

Speaker 2 (02:15:34):
Know, he sits in the house. Sometimes they're like, why
did I get this house? I literally spend all my
time in these two rooms all the time.

Speaker 4 (02:15:40):
Now you know why, because when you have family come,
you don't have to hear them.

Speaker 2 (02:15:44):
Yeah right there.

Speaker 1 (02:15:47):
It is nice to have that space.

Speaker 14 (02:15:50):
My room got to be on the opposite side of
everywhere everybody else's room.

Speaker 4 (02:15:54):
Yeah, y'all, y'all gonna have fun.

Speaker 1 (02:15:57):
What is it like when your family comes to town
during game week? Like they get in like Thursday. How
much time are you like really spending because you should
be a cat that's like during the season.

Speaker 4 (02:16:05):
Yeah, talk to you, not too much. I ain't. We
don't spend too much.

Speaker 14 (02:16:08):
But the thing is, you know, Fridays be early, so
like Fridays, I get enough time. Saturdays be kind of
iffy because you know, you got the morning meetings in
the night meetings. But Fridays be kind of like the day.
We kind of like just kick it. But Sundays too
because one of a good thing also about playing out
here is all our games, most of our games be

(02:16:28):
in the morning, so we get that whole day.

Speaker 4 (02:16:31):
You know, we be done by three o'clock. Yeah, you
be done by three o'clock.

Speaker 1 (02:16:34):
It's so much fun to play the Sunday night games.
But there's nothing more convenient than a noon game Titans.

Speaker 6 (02:16:40):
We do it.

Speaker 2 (02:16:40):
Bro We play going to the Titans and being home
at like four o'clock. Because Washington, we didn't have to
commute an hour each time. So you don't get if
you play the one o'clock game, you're not getting back
to the house of like seven thirty eight o'clock. When
I came to Tennessee, and it's like all the games
are at noon except for maybe you know one or.

Speaker 1 (02:16:58):
Two Thursday Night Jacksonville, Thursday Night week fifteen. Every time. Yeah,
it is, it's the it's the best. It is, especially
unless you don't play well, then it's like you kill me.

Speaker 14 (02:17:08):
Yeah, and then like at my house too, we always
have all the holidays, so like all my siblings will
come up, niece's nephews come up, Like, we had a
big holidays at the house.

Speaker 4 (02:17:19):
So it's been fun.

Speaker 14 (02:17:20):
Man, we creating them, you know, the memories and the
new generation you know coming up for us.

Speaker 4 (02:17:26):
Get to experience that, and I think that's very important. Bro.

Speaker 1 (02:17:29):
Just wait until you're done, Like, don't ever wish it away.
But when you're finished, that first holiday season, really that
first August, Yeah, you'll wake up and it'll be your
We'll go out and be like, man, it's hot as
hell out here, and then you'll think to yourself, oh
my god, I.

Speaker 4 (02:17:41):
Used to be I used to do that.

Speaker 1 (02:17:45):
And then Halloween will come up and you'll be so
dialed into Halloween and Thanksgiving. You're being so fired up Christmas.
It's like you might as well be Santa Claus. Yeah,
you're like, it's crazy the perspective that changed.

Speaker 2 (02:17:55):
Oh, I gotta get a work out of it. And
wait a minute, I.

Speaker 1 (02:18:00):
Mean I should. I guess I will, But it's just
it's crazy when there's not like that. You're chasing that
one percent every single year.

Speaker 2 (02:18:06):
Yeah, dude, how's your how's your dad? He's got to
be super proud of everything that you've accomplished.

Speaker 4 (02:18:12):
Yeah, man, he's doing good man.

Speaker 14 (02:18:14):
I mean I tell people all the time, he's moving around,
he's coaching, he's back coaching, uh, things like that. Like
he's been doing good man. That's all the way I
can explain is if it's quiet, it's good.

Speaker 2 (02:18:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:18:24):
And it's been it's been real quiet lately. So it's
been smooth.

Speaker 2 (02:18:28):
That's good man. I love like when he has his
interviews for when you were talking about the times that
you guys were homeless, you just see him get emotional.

Speaker 4 (02:18:35):
It's yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:18:36):
I tell him, it's got to be wild seeing where
you how far you've come since those times.

Speaker 1 (02:18:41):
The level of sacrifice so much that man to get
you where you are today is unbelievable.

Speaker 14 (02:18:45):
Yeah, man, And I would say that's probably just the
biggest thing I really take away from it because like
even now, like me being a dad, I'm like, could
I've done it?

Speaker 4 (02:18:54):
I don't know, you.

Speaker 14 (02:18:55):
Know, like just being real, you know, like the things
that he'd done, Like like literally I've watched him not eat.

Speaker 2 (02:19:02):
I'm like, damn, he.

Speaker 14 (02:19:03):
Gave us the food, you know, like he giving us
his full We spliting, you know, three pieces of chicken
between five kids and some sides, you know, like and
I'm like, man, I'm like, damn, is you gonna eat?
Like I remember, I'm telling you, like we was just
sleeping them cars. Everything used to be in the back
and it was suburban, so you know, it's like three
roles in the suburban. And I remember I used to

(02:19:24):
wake up and he just he got his gun sitting
on his lap, and I'm like, you want to sleep,
like what you like. But the thing that I would
say that I did learn and notice at a young
age is I understood a lot. Like I felt like
it made me grow up very fast. Like I seen
and experienced a lot at a young age. So like
by the time I was in fifth grade, like I

(02:19:45):
already knew how to cook, how to pay bills, get groceries,
like all of that by myself.

Speaker 4 (02:19:52):
Like I used to have to go literally have to
go do it. I used to hate that shit, you
know what, but like literally, like my god, n it
was just a difference. It was just different.

Speaker 14 (02:20:02):
So for me, football was always Football in school was
the only time I felt like I was just like regularly.

Speaker 2 (02:20:09):
What was it like in your mind whenever the homies
would be like, hey, Josh, let's go over to your spot.

Speaker 5 (02:20:14):
You want to know what's crazy, bro.

Speaker 14 (02:20:17):
I was just talking to my dad about this literally
last week. I said, I think it's crazy how to
all my friends. We probably have the least amount of
all my friends, but all my friends always wanted to
come to my art like wherever we was. But I
think it's because the way that my dad treated people,
in the way that he it was the feeling, like
you know what I'm saying, Like I tell people all
the time, people be like.

Speaker 4 (02:20:38):
Single pair of households. Like I tell people, I'm like, I.

Speaker 14 (02:20:40):
Know a kid right now where he has his mom
and his dad at home, but his dad's alcoholic and
he can't be at home, you know what I'm saying.
So I never judged nobody because I obviously my situation,
but like, you never know what people were going through.
So when I feel like a lot of these kids
they was going through things at home that when they
came with us, we might not have the best of things,
but it was always peace and it was always love.

(02:21:03):
So like I think that was something that like I
definitely carry.

Speaker 1 (02:21:07):
Yeah, that's awesome, man, that is cool. I've never met
your dad, but obviously have a whole lot of respect
for him. Sure, we're at the draft now, you get
drafted in the first round. Where did you go to
the draft?

Speaker 4 (02:21:19):
Yes, regretted it.

Speaker 1 (02:21:21):
What was that experience? What was that experience like for you?

Speaker 14 (02:21:24):
They don't tell you that the whole day leading up
to the ship, you got interviews, you got media, then
you got like an hour, like two hours to get
ready and really like head over there and be the
because you got to be there at a certain time.
And then they don't tell you afterwards, like you leave
the stage and literally go back to media they're doing
interviews like So for me, I love the experience. I

(02:21:48):
loved Nashville's it was fun. I turned up a little
bit and a little bit of time that I had
I had at six am flight that next morning. Uh
so I turned up a little bit, But I felt
like it was so much going on. I didn't really
get to sit down and really just like process what happened.

(02:22:09):
And if I was to do it differently, I would
have just had a party at home with all my
with all my family and all my friends and then
figured it out. But it was definitely something that I'm
you know, forever, you know, grateful for and a memory
that is definitely gonna last all my life.

Speaker 1 (02:22:23):
What was it like sitting there and you're sitting at
the table, you have like eight people with you, plus
your agent, and you're just waiting for the phone to ring,
and you see guys getting picked over and over. Yeah,
were you ever like, man, what if I don't get picked?
What if I have to be the guy to sit here?
Would have to be that Geno stip Remember that Will
Levis moment where it's like all the cameras around me.

Speaker 4 (02:22:41):
I was watching people do that.

Speaker 14 (02:22:43):
Yeah, you know I knew I was. I knew I
was gonna either go to the Raiders or I was
going to Philly. So I was like, I already know
these are the two teams.

Speaker 1 (02:22:51):
Did How were you for sure about that?

Speaker 4 (02:22:52):
Just by talking to him?

Speaker 2 (02:22:54):
You know, he wasn't for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:22:55):
I know he could have just by I was when
I when I was getting red the draft. Yeah, the
Falcons came to my house, yeah, Monday before the draft
on Thursday, and they took a private jet to Arizona
and they're like, hey, if you're there at six Britt Eddy. Yeah,
and I'm thinking to myself, I'll fucking be there at six,
like I'm gonna be a dirty bird. Six came and
went Jake Matthews took him, and I was I thought

(02:23:17):
I was not gonna get drafted that day. Yeah, I
thought I was essentially the Truman show and it's been
a show. And I was just making fun of me.

Speaker 2 (02:23:23):
You got duped, that got duped.

Speaker 4 (02:23:25):
There's no way you really know, No, you don't really
truly truly know. But I just know.

Speaker 14 (02:23:29):
When I had that meeting with the Raiders and I
talked to you know, Kirby Wilson and Gruden, I'm like,
one thing about Grooded, I don't think he got a
real good poker face, like you kind of like you
kind of.

Speaker 4 (02:23:40):
Know what he thinking and way you're feeling, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 14 (02:23:42):
But like the way he just treated me, I'm like, okay,
like there's a real possibility. But then when I seen
the Eagles they moved up it was like the twentieth
twentieth pig something like that, they moved up to twentieth
twenty two or something like that.

Speaker 4 (02:23:56):
I'm like, oh shit, they about to draft me.

Speaker 14 (02:23:58):
Like I went to you know, took a visitor and
ship and then they end up picking the Andre Dillard
and I was like, damn, So then I was kind
of like a ship, you know, like I'm like and
then two picks later, I heard that phone ring and
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (02:24:14):
Did you have like one of those old rotary from
the call yourself they called the rotary thing? Yes, dude,
that's fucking awesome. But the stress is insane.

Speaker 14 (02:24:23):
The stress is insane, especially because, like like I say,
you see them people that's not getting picked that day.
They thought that they were dressed to tie family there,
and now you see their family. You know, you know,
you're getting sick secondhand embarrassment, and you're just like, damn,
like would.

Speaker 9 (02:24:38):
It be me?

Speaker 4 (02:24:39):
Like, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (02:24:42):
That's just come on, that's scary. When you flew to
the Raiders, do you fly private?

Speaker 2 (02:24:47):
No?

Speaker 14 (02:24:47):
I don't even I'm gonna be honest, bro, it's the
first time I ever told this told this story. I
don't even know how I got on the plane.

Speaker 2 (02:24:57):
In a short amount of time.

Speaker 14 (02:24:59):
When I when I got back, I got back to
the whole remember it was it was probably one o'clock.
I got back to the hotel The first thing they
did was gave me a bottle of champagne. No, I
haven't ate nothing the whole day because you're doing we
were doing things the whole day. I down the bottle champagne.
I'm like, all right, I'm still good. On my people

(02:25:20):
were taking like another shot at the bar. I'm like,
all right, I'm going out. Sweet Lee invited me out.
I'm like, all right, we were gone. You feel me
like I go out. I'm mixing every liquor and note
I never really drunk in college, so like I ain't
even know, like mixing liquor when something you were supposed
to do, you know what I'm saying. Like, so I'm like, boy,

(02:25:41):
I'm good. The whole time we out. We must have
got in that car, everything starts spinning.

Speaker 4 (02:25:46):
I said, fuck, got to the hotel, barely could get
the hotel. He like, man, look you gotta leave, and
literally like an hour or two you got to be
at the airport. Next thing I know, I remember waking
up on the plane just were I was like, it
was funny because it was at the little If you
go back and look at my interview at the Raiders
that first first like you know, initial was three first

(02:26:08):
round picks, Me Cleveland, Pharrell, and Jonathan Abrams. I'm like,
I know they smelled the liquor on me. I'm Zodie.

Speaker 2 (02:26:16):
I gotta go check that out.

Speaker 4 (02:26:17):
I swear like, I'm like said on alcohol coming at
your I'm like, I didn't know we were supposed to
dress up to this ship.

Speaker 1 (02:26:29):
So I'm like, you got the raiders pull on? Got
I swear. I'm like, everybody want to put this on.
That is so funny, dude. That yeah, the night after
is unbelievable. The night of the night of you just
get after it.

Speaker 4 (02:26:46):
And like you said, we was in Nashville. You already know.

Speaker 2 (02:26:50):
That crazy when the draft came through.

Speaker 14 (02:26:52):
Bro what And that was like the largest like crowd,
like thee in a long time. And I remember because
I'm like we was hopping everywhere like.

Speaker 4 (02:27:01):
That was that was a fun day. Yeah, it was
a fun day.

Speaker 1 (02:27:03):
What was your first big purchase?

Speaker 4 (02:27:05):
We were like, yes, first big purchase, big purchase.

Speaker 14 (02:27:14):
I would say my first big purchase was I bought
my dad a crib. So I bought my dad house
before I even had the house I was renting at
the time, which I was renting for a steal in
Dublin in Oakland because like, I'm like, I had a
three bedroom for like twenty seven hundred.

Speaker 4 (02:27:30):
A month, a three bedroom townhouse with a garage. I
was hitting the legs.

Speaker 14 (02:27:35):
It was people paying thirty eight hundred they stayed in
Oakland like for a single.

Speaker 2 (02:27:42):
Single bro because I remember, I just stayed at the
extended state because all the options were crazy.

Speaker 14 (02:27:46):
So I was like and then not like I said,
I deferred my signing bonus. So I was living very modest,
like you know, I'm like, I'm not really spending no
money or nothing.

Speaker 4 (02:27:54):
Nothing.

Speaker 14 (02:27:55):
But actually I ended up doing a Super Bowl commercial
for Kia, and I made more in that Superball commercial
than I made the whole year in football, so I
went it.

Speaker 1 (02:28:04):
Yeah, where was the commercial shot?

Speaker 4 (02:28:06):
It's also really at home. I went and bought my
pops a crib the next day.

Speaker 1 (02:28:10):
So did you get taxed in Oklahoma for that or
do you?

Speaker 2 (02:28:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:28:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's a win. That is a win. Yeah,
because if you play for Tennessee, like you're playing all
eight home games, are stating a free state income tax,
no state income tax. But then you're also playing in Houston.

Speaker 4 (02:28:26):
Which is good.

Speaker 1 (02:28:27):
Yeah, and Florida in your division, so you have like
the most amount of no state income tax if you're
playing in the AFC South, if you're in Florida.

Speaker 2 (02:28:34):
Well he got the taste it in Vegas.

Speaker 1 (02:28:38):
No, yeah, they got no they had no state income tax.
But the cost of living is crazy out there there too.

Speaker 2 (02:28:44):
Yeah, it is nice outlook on this year. How are
you feeling? You look healthy, you look ready to go?
He was just he was talking before before the pod started,
how even though you were like the most carried back
in the first quarter of the first half, that you
feel like you're in great shape, Like you didn't take
much of a beating last year.

Speaker 14 (02:29:02):
Now I was the cleanest I hadn't had in the year,
Like I probably had only had like a couple of
games where I felt like I was like damn, this
shit lingering, and like I feel it like the damning.
The whole year, I was pretty good. Like you ever
come out of game and just feel like damn. I
did a lot of conditioning, Like they didn't feel like
no brumps, no bruises, just like a lot of conditioning.
I had a lot of those games. So for me,

(02:29:23):
like what I think of the team when you got
a lot of young guys. Was the youngest team in
the NFL last year. It's a lot of hunger, which
I love. It's a lot of guys that's still coachable,
still willing to, you know, like put in the work
each day and just to have them type of guys

(02:29:44):
with another year's worth of experience. And then obviously we
added some pieces. We add them with Cole Harty, we
got Nate Hobbs. You know the draft coming up, We're
gonna get some guys. I think we're gonna be straight man.
I tell people all the time, we played the Eagles
better than any other teams that I seen, and that
was just me watching football and scouting and things like that.
I'm like, we gave them the best run for their

(02:30:05):
money than any other than any other team.

Speaker 4 (02:30:08):
So I think we're there. Were just a few pieces away,
and we gotta gotta figure it out.

Speaker 2 (02:30:16):
Yeah, what do you think is gonna take for Green
Bay to get over the hump man crazy?

Speaker 14 (02:30:23):
The division is legit. The division is legit. I always thought, Bro,
and they close. That's why I keep telling me. I'm like, Bro,
I'm I'm not a I'm realistic. I'm a realistic thinker
you feel me. So like the Bears are not bad, bro,
Like they got a good team, they just missing some pieces.
And I feel like for us, a lot of our

(02:30:44):
problems last year was especially towards the end of the year,
like half our team was hurt.

Speaker 4 (02:30:48):
Like if we would have won.

Speaker 14 (02:30:49):
Against the Eagles that next game, we would have got
blew out because nobody was half our team want to play,
you know what I'm saying. Like I saw it was
just one of them situations where I was like, we
stay healthy.

Speaker 4 (02:31:01):
We get that.

Speaker 14 (02:31:01):
You know, we built that callus and like mentally and
physically we you know what I'm saying, We we built
that callus. We're gonna figure it out. Yeah, stamina, We're
gonna figure it out for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:31:11):
What it talks to me about Matt Lafleur in his
process and how he is and then and then after
that talk to me about his pregame speeches.

Speaker 14 (02:31:21):
So Matt, he is first off, his mind for the
game is it's up there with the best of them.
He is smart, His mind for the game is up
there with the best of them. Like one thing I
love about me and his relationship. We talk every day,
so like when we in season. We literally talk every day.
He'll put me to the side or whatever and we'll
we have our one on one or he'll be like,

(02:31:43):
you know.

Speaker 2 (02:31:43):
What do you see?

Speaker 4 (02:31:44):
What do you whatever? And we'll we had them conversations.

Speaker 14 (02:31:47):
But like when I say scheme wise and like the
way he breaks down films and explains like why we're
doing this because you know, a lot of people just
tell you do this, Like he break it down like
this is why we're doing this because they show this,
and they show this. I'm like, damn this, Like he
got me thinking, like I'm going on your six at
the time, and I'm like, damn, he got me thinking

(02:32:07):
about ship that I ain't even thought about, you know
what I'm saying, Like, and so it was a lot
of big respect. I think he's also a player's coach.
He gives the players a lot of He give us
a lot of Like I'm not gonna say Lee way
because he don't give Lee way. He gonna stand on
what he believe in.

Speaker 1 (02:32:22):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (02:32:22):
But like when I say Lee way, like he gonna
come to the to the leaders of the team and
be like, what do y'all want to do in certain
situations like uh, it's code outside of I want to
go inside outside, we outside, you know, like that's like
things like that. But as a coach man like and
he gonna go to war for you. That's another thing too.

(02:32:43):
Headn't got fine for cutting out refs things like that,
Like if he believed in something, he gonna go to
war for you. So he's just one of them guys
man like that group that's in there, you know, Pisace
and all of them guys man Like they're legit. They're legit.
They make you. They may come in to work fun.
I don't know if people know, but we got a
basketball hoop in our team meeting room, and we got

(02:33:06):
something like even in the workout rooms and stuff like that,
like they have dance sauce. We had like all that,
all that kind of stuff. Bro, he just he understand.
He got a he got his finger on the post
for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:33:16):
Fun.

Speaker 14 (02:33:16):
Yeah, he make it fun. He don't make it just work,
you know what I'm saying. And then he's efficient with
the time. That is that's the thing that I love most.
I'm not gonna lie to you, like because I'm already
waking up at five every day. I'm not trying to
be here from five to six thirty every day. That's
basically how it was at the Raiders. Five to six

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thirty every day.

Speaker 4 (02:33:39):
Here we out about three three thirty You gone, You're done,
bro Yes on Wednesday, on a Wednesday. The only way
you staying, the only way you staying longer is if
you obviously taking care of your body, right, But like
if you already got all that, Like me, I got
a whole setup, Like you know what I'm saying, So
they like I'll face them, FaceTime them at home recovery.

(02:34:00):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 14 (02:34:00):
So like three third you gone, I'm like, this is different,
Like I actually feel like I got a day, Like
I don't feel like I'm just working the whole time,
you know what I'm saying, Like, and I think that
that's something that that helped us a lot, you know,
especially like from a mental standpoint, it helped our team
a lot. But we also got younger guys, and then
each generation that it gets.

Speaker 4 (02:34:21):
A little weirder and weirder. They are a little a
little different, so you kind of gotta like, for real,
I'm just.

Speaker 2 (02:34:27):
Being real, Like his voice gets a little a little.

Speaker 14 (02:34:31):
Different, but you got it. Just and I feel like
he's one of them coaches that he understands. He has
his finger on the post for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:34:37):
I feel like Matt Lafleur's mind being displayed to the public.
A good example of that was Malik Willis and Jordan
Love went.

Speaker 4 (02:34:45):
Down, come on.

Speaker 1 (02:34:49):
And like, I love like he is one of those
guys like in the locker room, always the smileest face,
always seems eager to learn. But when he was at
the Titans, it was like he didn't know the cans,
Like he had a really hard time picking up the
playbook yep. And so when he went to the Packers,
I was thinking, you.

Speaker 2 (02:35:04):
Know, he's playing in what week?

Speaker 1 (02:35:07):
Week four?

Speaker 4 (02:35:08):
Yeah, because we went to three.

Speaker 1 (02:35:10):
Yeah, And I bet a lot of money on Tennessee.
I bet a lot of because I was like, oh,
Malice's playing, I know, like you know, I just know
he struggled with the playbook quite a bit because I
really like him and I don't want to throw the
shit at him at all, But he came out and
he had.

Speaker 4 (02:35:24):
A game, and you want to know what's crazy about him?

Speaker 14 (02:35:26):
So Malik, great dude, great dude, first and foremost hard worker,
never signs the light on himself, always gives the light
to somebody else, Like he's just wanted them guys that
you genuinely be friends with the rest of your life.
But me and him, we had that conversation. I'm like
he like, he said, Bro, this is the first time
I ever felt like I'm getting taught how to play,

(02:35:49):
like for real. And he was like, he said, the
way that they breaking it down to me and simplifying
things for me, like I feel like I could just
play for again, He's like, I feel like I'm in college,
like I could just play. So that is something like
and even you know you've seen it. The fans even
kind of was like, damn, nobody expected him to play
as good as he did, and he really look like

(02:36:11):
every game he played in bro, he called, I'm like, damn,
Like it got to the point where everybody.

Speaker 4 (02:36:16):
Was like, I shit, like like what we been to do?
Like what's fitna go on?

Speaker 14 (02:36:21):
But that's just a testament to him, bro, Like and
I feel like when you, like I said, bro, when
you're a good person, Bro, when you work hard, I
feel like everything else, take care of yourself.

Speaker 4 (02:36:30):
And he's just one of them dudes that we had
this talk.

Speaker 14 (02:36:33):
I literally talked about said, man, you keep putting this
on film, like you might have some teams like really
trying to come get you, like figuring it out like
this next year. I was like, I don't know how
long you're gonna be here because you're playing so good,
you're playing at a high level that like maybe you're
gonna get another chance at it.

Speaker 4 (02:36:49):
So hopefully I hope you do.

Speaker 14 (02:36:50):
Man, I think he definitely deserves another chance at least
competing for that spot for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:36:55):
We brushed over it a minute ago because I know
coach Laflurt, he's tapped in right now, but he's pregame speeches.

Speaker 4 (02:37:01):
Oh yes, pre game speeches?

Speaker 2 (02:37:02):
Does he does? He just get the mic to Basacia.

Speaker 4 (02:37:05):
I ain't gonna lie. I feel like.

Speaker 14 (02:37:09):
I feel like he's not really a pregame speech coach.
He like he had a few that he was like okay,
but he don't mostly like he say the ship that
needs to be said, let me say that, like he
keep it more like calm, and then he let the players.

Speaker 4 (02:37:26):
He let the players take over, so like really the players.

Speaker 14 (02:37:30):
Lead, we lead each other out, like he'll say what
he gotta say, and then the players will get this.
We'll talk and we will hype everybody up, and then
we will lead up and then we'll lead.

Speaker 4 (02:37:39):
Out, you know.

Speaker 14 (02:37:40):
And he's always that way. Now, his speeches after the
game be befar speeches, speeches even talking to ship then
you feel me. But before the game he's more kind
of kind of chill. He's more like a calm, collected coach.

Speaker 2 (02:38:00):
Plays strengths. Yeah, you got to do we get into
the last question.

Speaker 1 (02:38:04):
Let's get in the last question.

Speaker 2 (02:38:06):
This last question is brought to us by bud Light. Josh,
you know how people will do anything for a bud Light.
What is something that you would do anything for.

Speaker 4 (02:38:15):
I can't say.

Speaker 2 (02:38:17):
Family could be an ambitious goal.

Speaker 4 (02:38:23):
Any something I would do anything for. Damn, that's a
loadly question.

Speaker 1 (02:38:31):
You got some low hanging fruit though, that's just waiting
for you to pick it.

Speaker 4 (02:38:35):
That's what you think.

Speaker 2 (02:38:36):
What you think super Bowl?

Speaker 4 (02:38:40):
But what's anything for it?

Speaker 2 (02:38:42):
Because when he's on the podcast years ago, he said
he'd cut his dick off for a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (02:38:48):
No willing to sacrifice for greatness, not for that.

Speaker 14 (02:38:55):
That's an as that's it depends on what you think
about it.

Speaker 2 (02:39:01):
When you're in the middle of the season because you're
always in that like top three? Do you have your
mind on the rushing title offensive MVP? Bro?

Speaker 4 (02:39:09):
You want to know something, Bro, I've never once any
season came into a season with goals. Never, never in
my life. Never.

Speaker 14 (02:39:19):
I feel like, when you work hard on every day
and you literally give it everything you have, it's gonna
play out how it's supposed to. And if it don't,
I can at least live with it not playing the
highest sposal because I know I poured everything I had
into it. So I've never had goals Like It's to
the point where like even when I led the year

(02:39:39):
that that year in Russian, my teammates to tell me
where I'm at. I don't never know. I never look
at that ship, but I never really care. I'm always
big on just like wins and losses. He cared, he'll
talk about it. He'll talk about it.

Speaker 4 (02:39:52):
Because he probably has got just took you out, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 14 (02:39:56):
Like for me, I'm like, we won, but I don't
care about like when you even lost a lot. It's like
winning is literally I don't I don't too much care
about what it looked like. Obviously selfishly, I do want
to play good, and I do want to, you know,
be one of the guys every time, But I feel
like that take care of itself by just my day
to day habits and what I do on a daily basis.

Speaker 1 (02:40:20):
It's crazy to me that you because I hear you talking,
I feel like matc Crosby has a very similar mindset
to you that you do. It's crazy that you guys
are on the same team and you guys couldn't make
something happen, bro, because you see you, you really you're
the head you have on your shoulders is incredible.

Speaker 9 (02:40:37):
Bro.

Speaker 14 (02:40:37):
When you going at Raiders Stadium, you're gonna see nine
to eight, You're gonna see two, eight, eight and seventeen.

Speaker 4 (02:40:45):
I'm the only numbers you're gonna see.

Speaker 14 (02:40:47):
So I'm like, if I'm one of the faces of
the franchise since I've came in, since I since my
rookie year, what's going on? Oh ye am four, you
gonna see Derek Carr. Soo, let me not add no,
let me not you don't forget about that. But but
I'm like, so yeah, bro, I mean Max. What makes

(02:41:08):
Max great is because honestly, I've never seen nobody ever
like him, And that's just me being like from the.

Speaker 4 (02:41:18):
Mentally, he gotta be off, like you gotta be a
little fucked up to play football. I'ma just be real
because what we do is dumb as hell.

Speaker 14 (02:41:24):
Like we run, We run full speed at each other
and we hit each other like the fun we're doing it,
but like like literally like but literally like the way
he approached the game, the way I've seen him go
from being a little tubby to being toned up with
tattoos and shit, And you're like, damn this, mother, who

(02:41:44):
is this?

Speaker 4 (02:41:45):
Who is this?

Speaker 14 (02:41:45):
But his worth ethic when I say you see how
he played on Sundays, When I say he does that,
he can fuck up a whole practice, Like he's one
of them guys that you gotta be all right, you
gotta take Max out like you can't let him, you
can't let him fuck up the whole practice. He's just
such of a difference maker. I've never seen nobody like it.
The only guy that I can honestly compare him to

(02:42:08):
is ab which is crazy, but it's the truth. Antonio
Brown had that same work at it. Whenever you practice
and shiit like every rout one hundred percent hmm, come
back to the ball. Never dropped the pass like Max
gut all intellig was, Bro, he gonna be great just
because it just because of that alone.

Speaker 4 (02:42:26):
And he knowed to play the game too. He definitely
know how to play the game.

Speaker 14 (02:42:29):
He's smart when it comes when it comes to you know,
on the field, in off the field shit. But man,
that's why I feel like, yeah, Max, like I said, Bro,
I got too much praise for him because he's just
one of them dudes.

Speaker 4 (02:42:43):
I've never seen nothing like it.

Speaker 1 (02:42:44):
You brought him up. But what was your experience like
with Antonio Brown? Was that your rookie year, rookiear So
that had to be the craziest.

Speaker 14 (02:42:51):
Because it's the first time I ever told this story
on interview. You remember the whole time he was like
free me. Remember when in the whole video free a
B Free Me, Grandma. I was right next to him
at his house. I got a beat here on my
phone right now. I swear, I'll swear everything I love,
I love. We was free styling my first time ever

(02:43:16):
pulling up to his house. This is when this ship
was going on.

Speaker 4 (02:43:19):
You feel me. He was free styling and we're sitting
there and he got the car.

Speaker 14 (02:43:25):
You know, he got the cry on all that ship
that's before he that was before he burned his feet
and ship it's like after right his feet, so like
he got to pull the ship. He and one thing
I will say, like I say, he worked his ass off.
We was there he in the back in the back
of his yard catching hundred passes on the jugs, catching him.
Then he talked to his grandma seat and he was like, Grandma,

(02:43:48):
this is what I'm thinking, and I don't want to leave.
And I tell people all the time, do I think
that he was wrong? No, I think he the way
he went about it was wrong, But the feeling that
he had he wasn't wrong. You know what I'm saying,
Like it's kind of hard to explain that unless you

(02:44:10):
really get into it. So like what I mean is
like why he was upset and the things that he
was upset about.

Speaker 4 (02:44:19):
He was one hundred percent right to be.

Speaker 14 (02:44:22):
Upset about him, but how he handled it, I think
it was one hundred percent wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:44:28):
What were the things that he was upset about? Because
there are a few things that kind of happened.

Speaker 1 (02:44:32):
I know one that six out was like he was helmet.

Speaker 14 (02:44:34):
He was mad about because he couldn't worries him and
no more because he worried it's like it went outdated
or something like that.

Speaker 4 (02:44:40):
He couldn't worry.

Speaker 14 (02:44:41):
He burnt his feet and he was mad because he
wanted to do like he was doing, like training, but
they wanted him to do it like you know with
the He like, I want to see the best people.
I can't fucking walk and like you know, so like
that was the thing. And then him and Mayock had
a conversation.

Speaker 2 (02:44:57):
Is that the cracker thing?

Speaker 14 (02:45:00):
They had a conversation. I'm not gonna get into what
was said, Alawa said. Alawa said, on both on both ends,
you feel me so like I think that like the
way he was feeling. Basically he was saying, really what
it came down to us, They threatened to take his
money and so he was arguing, like to keep his money.

Speaker 4 (02:45:24):
So I was like, I understand what you're saying, like
you And.

Speaker 14 (02:45:28):
The craziest thing about ab Bro he would be the
guy in the meetings that would be on his phone
the whole time and everybody know he on his phone,
and ain't nobody gonna say nothing, But he go out
and practice and never fuck up a play, like I swear, Bro,
like he was just different, you feel me, but like
he was going through that, he was they were trying
to take his money. They was trying to take some
of his guarantees and shit, and he was like basically

(02:45:51):
going back and forth with him and like that whole
little thing.

Speaker 4 (02:45:54):
And I think that the people he had around him.

Speaker 14 (02:45:55):
I don't know if the people still around him, but
he had too many guys that were just willing to
tell him what ever he wanted to hear. And I remember,
like I said, we was literally freestyling and he got
that call and he on the phone and he called
his grandma and all that stuff, and I remember and
I was like, he was like, I got thirty million
in the bank right now, Like I don't. I'm like,

(02:46:17):
first off, why do you got thirty million just sitting
in the bank. Do something with that money? But That's
what I was thinking of. But I'm like, he's not,
he's not. He's not necessarily wrong for how he feels,
but he's he's wrong, but how he went about it.
And that was my perspective on the outside looking in.
But I remember Bro, like the whole freemi and then

(02:46:39):
the video came out. Bro, the dude, the dude that
made the video was there.

Speaker 4 (02:46:43):
The whole time. He was following around every bro. The
ship was crazy. I think I can probably pull up
the freestyle of my phone. I'm not even lying, but
I'm not even talking. Let me see if I can
part this ship.

Speaker 2 (02:46:54):
Bro, Yo, that is so funny just picturing that video
from what I remember of it and thinking that Joshul
sitting there there being like, what the hell is going on?

Speaker 6 (02:47:03):
Like?

Speaker 4 (02:47:04):
Is this? I'm like, is this the NFL? Is this
what mockers do? Like That's what I'm like.

Speaker 14 (02:47:09):
Bro, Like, what what in the hell is going on?
But let me sell you this, bro, I ain't even
gonna sell the whole video. I saw you right where
he was freestyling. You can hear his voice, and I'll
show you the date. I literally show you today and
you'd be like what the fuck.

Speaker 1 (02:47:30):
While you're while you're finding that, it's like, Mike Tomlin
needs love for what he was able to do with
ab and all them.

Speaker 4 (02:47:43):
Who who is that to back?

Speaker 2 (02:47:48):
Crazy?

Speaker 4 (02:47:50):
I'm telling you, I'm like, damn.

Speaker 14 (02:47:53):
But then when he left, when he left though, two,
I ain't gonna lie. It was like good and bad.
Like obviously it was bad for our team because like shit,
he was the biggest, probably the best player on our team.

Speaker 4 (02:48:05):
Uh, but like all the bullshit went out the window.
It was it was all like, okay, this is football,
like this is this is the league.

Speaker 14 (02:48:14):
Everybody started liking in all the media and all that shit.
And we was on hard knocks too, so that was
another thing.

Speaker 2 (02:48:19):
It was a lot. Yeah. But yeah, bro, because over
here too, like when I came in that year, that
he would have like the posse or his crew, they'd
be like in the locker roll, Yeah, rolling around the
building with Nazi. They might have trying to like train
after hours, like trying.

Speaker 4 (02:48:34):
Yeah, just a lot of different.

Speaker 14 (02:48:36):
So yeah, like I remember, I remember he came in
and when they brought him in, he was like, y'all
gotta find me on the private And then when he
got there, he was like, I'm not paying for this year.

Speaker 4 (02:48:46):
They gotta pay for it. I swear Bro. I swear Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:48:52):
But like one interesting optics.

Speaker 4 (02:48:54):
He was just different.

Speaker 1 (02:48:55):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (02:48:56):
He was just different.

Speaker 14 (02:48:56):
But like I say all the time, like nobody can
ever take away what he did on that field.

Speaker 4 (02:49:02):
I don't care. I don't care. Nobody saying it. Bro.
You can you can get on the person the man
as much as as much as you care for or whatever.
But like on that field, it's not like him and Max, Him,
Max Tay. I ain't seen a lot like it, Like
nobody else like.

Speaker 2 (02:49:18):
That Him Max and who bad.

Speaker 1 (02:49:25):
But yeah, but like Antonio, think about Antonio Brown, Le'Veon Bell, Ben, Roethlisberger, Councy,
all those personalities on one team, James Harrison, all those
guys on one team. Like Mike Tomlin needs to write
a book those years, dude. That makes him such a
good coach. And the fact that Steelers fans are like, hey,
Toma might have to leave. It's crazy every year they

(02:49:48):
like they gotta get him out of here. It's like
that is. I don't think there's another coach that can
handle personalities better than Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 14 (02:49:54):
He has a lot of coaches don't even like when
you got any kind of personality for real, right so
you know, especially if you look off. But I mean
a b was just putting guys, Bro telling you one
of them animals, Bro, one of them guys. He made
me step up my my hell, and I'm not doing
enough for real.

Speaker 2 (02:50:16):
For real, we appreciate you a uh JP, I know
you had a question. Oh you did, but the air
of the light oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:50:26):
So oh yeah yeah, I know if you wanted me
to talk about it on here or not.

Speaker 5 (02:50:33):
Just know each other.

Speaker 14 (02:50:35):
So b little So he does streaming uh with a
guy named They actually just hit five million subscribers literally
last week. But it's a guy that I grew up with,
like probably literally since like fourth fifth grade. I known
him middle school, high school, went to high school together
and everything. Stay cool like I was just on a

(02:50:58):
on a pod not too long ago. But cool people, bro.
And it's crazy because he went to school, he went
to he played a t U University play receiver. He
was good, bro, but never really got a chance, you know,
like one of those situations. But man, he's doing his
thing now. That's my dog, isn't It's crazy? You just
say five million subscribers somebody you grew up with, bro.

(02:51:20):
And the funniest part about it is when you when
you leave here, just look up his videos.

Speaker 4 (02:51:25):
How he acts on them videos.

Speaker 14 (02:51:26):
It's one hundred percent how he is literally like he's
always been, Like we've been in class. I'll be like, Bro,
I cannot be in class with him, want to get
in trouble every time. Just just too funny. It's too funny,
bro like, Yeah, he was always that guy for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:51:40):
Does anybody have anything for Josh for we wrap up?

Speaker 4 (02:51:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:51:53):
He said that's up. So what Jack saying is Garrett Hargins.
He said, you guys shared the same birthday, by the way,
so he says, you guys are practically blood. He's a
massive Bama fan, so he was. He was bummed to
miss this interview.

Speaker 4 (02:52:05):
I don't have no problems with him being the Tennessee fan.
I never lost to them.

Speaker 14 (02:52:08):
Smoked a lot of smoke as.

Speaker 1 (02:52:14):
Before you go, how much did you ever get paid
of Alabama?

Speaker 12 (02:52:16):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (02:52:17):
Believe it or not? Nothing.

Speaker 1 (02:52:19):
Believe it or I don't believe it.

Speaker 4 (02:52:20):
You don't.

Speaker 14 (02:52:21):
I wish I did, But I swear about Hey, I
believe him. I swear I wish.

Speaker 1 (02:52:30):
That makes sense. Dereck Henry tried to tell me he
never got money.

Speaker 4 (02:52:32):
So, Bro, the thing about the thing about Bamah Boster
did he get paid?

Speaker 2 (02:52:37):
Oh, I have no clue.

Speaker 14 (02:52:38):
I know he's trying to tell you about the thing
about Bama is same. He used to say it all
the time, he was like, I want to pay y'all,
but he was like, we are literally under the microscope.
He was like, so everything we doing is getting judged.
He said he wasn't willing to risk it. So if
people was getting paid, it.

Speaker 4 (02:52:55):
Was not from him.

Speaker 1 (02:52:56):
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 4 (02:52:58):
I tell you that.

Speaker 1 (02:53:01):
Do you think Alabama is going to be back?

Speaker 4 (02:53:04):
I think I don't figure it out. Yeah, I think
I don't figure it out. Someday I think they're gonna
figure it out.

Speaker 14 (02:53:10):
I think I think the coach needs two of the
three years to like really like implement what he what
he believe in and his coaching style.

Speaker 4 (02:53:17):
I think also, well, just.

Speaker 14 (02:53:19):
From what I've heard from you know ah and you
know some of the guys that's that's been back is
it's just a different group of guys, you know, like
from the work they think everybody complaining and do you
know n I l and transfer, you know, like saving
Like when I was in school, you had to you
had to almost work and play. You couldn't be like

(02:53:41):
I'm mad and want to leave because you would have
to sit out, you know what I'm saying, Like now
you could just go play, like it's making the job
of a coach very hard because it's almost like you
can't discipline guys how you want to, because it's just different.
It's just different now. So and I think that they
told me something like that average guy Bama makes like

(02:54:02):
three hundred thousand, and that's the ones that don't even play.

Speaker 2 (02:54:05):
Yeah. We were, yeah, we were hearing the same things
and mission, Yeah, would you imagine getting your scholarship check?
Like I want to say, the floor CB was telling us, like,
you know, you could have somebody that's that doesn't do anything,
they might get sixty grand. Yeah, could you imagine getting
your scholarship check of whatever that was and then getting
an extra five thousand dollars a month just from nil bro?

Speaker 1 (02:54:27):
And that's somebody who's making it's.

Speaker 4 (02:54:28):
Not gonna live Bro.

Speaker 9 (02:54:29):
Three.

Speaker 14 (02:54:30):
I had I remember, I remember I had, like, you know,
your fast one hit come in and I had like
three thousand.

Speaker 4 (02:54:37):
I thought that was a lot of money. The pale Grande,
the pale grand I'm like, Bro, I'm like, yeah, I
got a lot of money. US three thousand, you times
are by ten. That's crazy, Bro.

Speaker 14 (02:54:46):
I don't think that nobody at that age is really
mentally or like prepared for that type of money, like
I think, I know, right, Do I think that they
should be getting paid, Yes, But what I think is
the way that they should structured the way that kids
get pa should be different. I think that like, you
shall only get a certain amount and then the rest
you get either when you leave or when you graduate,

(02:55:09):
and do it that way instead of giving all these
kids all.

Speaker 4 (02:55:12):
This money to try and protect them, because not.

Speaker 14 (02:55:15):
Only not only are you protecting them from their selves,
but you protecting them from everybody else too. I think
about how many stories we've heard about people's families taking
their money or you know, people getting caught up in
the wrong things and losing their money that way. And
you're telling me, I'm seventeen years old and I've come
from nothing, and you're gonna give me this amount of money.

Speaker 4 (02:55:35):
I'm not gonna know what to do it right.

Speaker 14 (02:55:37):
And then my first thing to do is do the
things that I always grew up and thought that I
seen was having money.

Speaker 4 (02:55:43):
I'm gonna go get a car, I'm gonna get some.

Speaker 14 (02:55:44):
Jewelry like things that really, you ain't even got that
type of money to be doing that type of things
that early. You know what I'm saying like, it's just
I don't think that that's I don't think that the
way that they structured it is smart. And the thing
that I would say about saving I don't know if
they still do it.

Speaker 4 (02:56:00):
At Bama.

Speaker 14 (02:56:01):
That was the best thing beneficial for me was when
you're a freshman, they make you take broadcasting classes and
they make you take financial literacy classes. It was like
mandatory for everybody, and it taught me because I'm like, shit,
I ain't know nothing about credit. I know nothing about
none of that shit. Like I literally learned all of
that in college, you know what I'm saying. So for me,

(02:56:22):
it was like without that, I would know. I don't
know if they still do that, But imagine me not
knowing that and then you friend, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:56:31):
Like bro, I'm not gonna know what to do with it, Like, yeah,
that is wo Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:56:35):
Good for shaving to do that too. Man. We appreciate
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Speaker 2 (02:56:42):
It has been awesome, Bro, thank you for coming with
the boys. Yeah, appreciate you.

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