Josh Pate Picks College Football Playoff Quarterfinal Games W/ Will Compton And Taylor Lewan

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to another episode of The Locker Room. I'm will
come to We got Josh, Fate, Trelawn. It is college
football quarterfinals week. We got Oregon, Texas Tech, Bamba, Indiana, Ole,
Miss Georgia, Miami, O Wild State. Here are the standings
on the year. Taylor real close to get up to
the five hundred level. Josh a game behind, I'm three
games behind. We are happier here. If you're watching right now,
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(00:22):
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incredible show and let's talk.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Sous ladies, gentlemen, Welcome into the Locker Room.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
We have what is it? The quarterfinals? Quarterfinals. Have a
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Speaker 1 (01:13):
Rounds one is in the books, boys.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Is it?

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Oh?

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Speaker 2 (01:40):
Business fandels dot com slash busting to get started. Where
do we start, boys, Happy Holidays, Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas,
Merry Christmas. Indeed, and we were talking about Jews lining
the same on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, he said it with some home.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
He said it like he was telling more than just
a more than.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Just some people walk up to the line. Some people
will go over the line. Yeah, I'm an over the
line guy.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
That was more so saying happy hollidays, like for past Christmas,
New Year's is coming up. Let's combine them together. You
were speaking of separation. I mean it essentially is like
we're getting into the new year.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Could I present an alternate theory. I don't think we're
gonna separate. I think we're together. I think we're together
through the duration.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I agree twenty twenty six, we're all together. But as
far as this record goes, the fact that you're even
saying we're gonna stay together is the first domino piece
to fall for us finally to separate. Yeah, one way
or the other.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
But we could be together on these games, do you
think so?

Speaker 3 (02:38):
I mean, we got six picks left right, four plus
two plus one is seven. Yeah, so how much separation
could happen?

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah? Seven games?

Speaker 3 (02:49):
How much separation? I was talking to you about some
pretty wild prop bets. If we allow prop bets in
this thing, then it's total wildcard round.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
But if we don't, because it would be an ethical
I don't really think we're gonna separate all that much.
And to be honest, that's probably good news for me
because I'm thirty nine and forty three and you'll take that. Yeah,
kids have screwed up a lot for me this year.
I'm below five hundred.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
How's the ramn Noodle express doing?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Romanel expresses above five hundred, Romnel expresses seventy seven and seventy,
which is not like crush it quit your second job
style winning percentage, but it's it's a winning percentage.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
It's kind of like you had a wash of a season,
but you did game, you did win some money.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, we literally started.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yes, we're able to get a few power Ball tickets.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, some scratch offs. I would never send me my
cigarettes back home because Memo never smoked, but I could
send the fam some things back home with our winnings
this year. Depending on which your size or your unit is,
and you know, to each his own when it comes
to how big your unit is.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, I'm I'm very I'm curious, which I'm sure the
entire audience is. What is somebody? What is Josh paid?
What's a guy like Josh paid get for Christmas? I
got we guests first. Yeah, that'd probably when he walked
in with that. When he walked through with that c zip,
I was thinking, is that it was that a Christmas gift?

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Wasn't I think it was?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, so after all the c zip talk from Oklahoma,
you could accuse it for Christmas and you got accuse
it for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
What's you guys playing on? Let's go over there?

Speaker 3 (04:14):
What color. Was it though?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Coccus it that I dealt with.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
I got a black cu zip. That's fair logo on
it is not crimson, was not cream. It was right,
it was black.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
I got feelings about it. You strike me as a
guy that your wife looks at you and she said, hey,
what do you want for Christmas? And you tell her
I don't want anything. I want nothing for Christmas?

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Is that correct and equivocally yes? And I'm not lying.
It's not the reverse psychology thing. I want nothing for Christmas.
Christmas morning. Congrats babe, you got nothing but a smile.
And I'm really in my feelings about it. That's okay, Okay,
that's okay. No, man is a failure? Who has friends?
I have friends. I have everything I need for Christmas?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Saw hoody is that Christmas gift? Yeah? Those pants? Also?
Those pants look new? No, no, no, no, I've been rocking these.
These are these are the green drips.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Maybe just they've been through the wash, because they don't
look like they've been worn hardly at all. Those are
the green ones. Every time I see you, where am
I going?

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Hey? What'd you like green? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Those are special pants? Are those are October pants. Those
are those are Christmas pants?

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Those are comfy. You look cozy. Thank you extreme feel cozy?

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Can I ask you this? Pivoting to some more football stuff.
What's your opinion of opinion of Colin Whodingham.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
I think you ended up that was him right there?

Speaker 1 (05:32):
A second?

Speaker 3 (05:32):
What does he say?

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Oh no, it's a John o'rahoff.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Uh. He helped me win three Fantasy championships in a row. Statistically,
our chance of winning three Fantasy championships was zero point
zero five eight percent. It was one in seventeen twenty
eight chants. So that's history. We can talk about that
in the NFL show. What's your opinion of Collewoodinghem?

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Do you have an opinion that's different than everybody else's.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Everybody else is pretty high on it, right, Yeah, Yeah,
I'm pretty eye on it. I think you're better than
you were two months ago, so you upgraded. Doesn't it
feel like? Doesn't it feel like the stuff that if
you and I would have talked about Michigan in the
second week of October, the stuff that you would have
begrudgingly said to me off camera about the overall state
of the program. Everyone's just freely saying in the open

(06:19):
now that you hired Cale Whittingham. Good, we're injecting solid
football culture back into the building. Good. We were reliable,
we're stable. Good. No one's whispering, No one's hesitant to
walk around corners in the building. That's Kyle Whittingham. Kyle Whittingham,
just a football guy. Occasional motorcycle ride during the lunch break,
hit a stake at four pm at his desk. Back

(06:39):
to football. Yeah, solidom guy.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Loves to get in the gym a little bit. But
you're absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
All the whisperings people behind closed doors, the loser's mentality,
talking gets small groups kind of talk a little bit shit.
All that is now out in the open for everybody
to see. And yeah, I think no disrespect. But two
weeks ago, I think Michigan got better from a football
from a football standpoint, coaching standpoint, and now knowing where
we're headed. Because Kyle Whittingham wasn't like the sexiest name

(07:06):
in the world. I didn't know a whole lot about
him or about Utah. Since he's been hired, I've just
been on the message boards. It's just a search bar
on Twitter Michigan Footballkyle Whittingham and just I'm only seeing
Utah and Michigan fans come together over It's very odd.
I'm seeing USC fans be like, hey, that's a hell
of a coach and our Dame fan like people all
over the place like this is a great ball coach

(07:26):
and mission is a whole lot better.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
So it fires me up. I'm cautiously optimistic.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
I was trying to talk to anybody that would listen
yesterday about it, but it's really like January second. If
we can keep this roster intact and add a couple players,
it might be in some futures.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Next one question, So it's as we're recording, it's Tuesday, December,
let's call it January first, twenty twenty six. Let's just
pretend it's New Year's Day, which it will be in
forty eight hours New Year's Day, twenty thirty one. Is
he the head coach at Michigan five years?

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Probably not, probably twenty thirty two, twenty thirty one, because
he's got five year contract.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
He's as old as he is.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
But I think it's about stabilizing, maximizing the potential of
Michigan what it is, and then once he rides off,
from the sunset. It's bringing it to where we get
the best guy available again. But this is I think
it's the biggest knock on Kyle Woodingham is his age.
He says he wanted to get out last year, but
this team went five and seven or whatever their record was.
They go through the portal, they go ten and two.

(08:23):
He feels a whole lot better about it. I personally
believe there was the private equity thing going on. He
might have got pushed a little bit. Yeah, he's a
guy that would never say that, and that's why you
love him more for it. But five years from now,
I think he maximizes this and he rides off the sunset,
leaving the program much better off than Sharan Moore did.
And I think that's a massive positive because you get
a guy in waiting, you grew him a person a
DC or OC or you know who the next best

(08:44):
guy is. And now Michigan's playing a couple of chess
pieces ahead of everybody else, similar to we talked to
Ed oseron and he's getting the third party phone call,
going to a gas station. Someone's like, hey, you're gonna
be the next head football coach. Michigan gets to that point,
it seemed like for the last two weeks, Michigan was
in a situation where they find out about the Sharon
stuff and then they're scrambling to find who the new

(09:05):
guy is as much names being thrown around, and they landed,
they fell forward, which is amazing. Okay, So that's my
thought in the next five years.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Did you have any when the announcement first happened and
he didn't know anything about kywitny name, I knew that
you have like sad instance, it wasn't your guy Biff.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
No, Because to me at first, I was like, I
just need to know who this guy is because when
it comes to Michigan, where I'm kind of at with
my fandom is whoever's gonna be sitting in that seat,
I'm gonna support one hundred percent. So whether it was Biff, Kenny,
Kaylen de Bore, the kind of three names are really
popping around last week, I was, yeah, I was fully
ready to support them. Once his name gets named as

(09:41):
the head coach for Michigan, I just think I know
he wins a lot. I know he's been at a
program for twenty one years as a head coach, and
maybe nine years before that as like an assistant coach,
He's won multiple Pac twelve championships. It's a school like
Utah where no disrespect to them, but they don't have
the resources to be a top F fifteen like school
football team year and a year out. However they are

(10:04):
and that's leadership and stability. And I'm like, oh, this
is a guy that absolutely is everything that Michigan needs
right now. So that like, within an hour of him
being named as the head coach, reading about him like oh,
I'm all about this. I actually texted Biff and I
was like, what do you think this is? After he
met him, and he's like, this is the guy, is
exactly what we need. The kids already respect him. I
think he's the perfect fit for Michigan. So even Biff

(10:26):
is like, yeah, this should be the guy.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
HM. Would you like to tell a very very brief,
fifty second to one minute behind the scenes story that
illustrates the this thing you did. You did the air
quotes when you said Michigan found out it was really
what you're talking about is there were whispers, there were
some rumors, no one really knew. No one put the
train cars together. There wasn't solid evidence of anything. But
there were whispers throughout the season.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, whispers about the season. I think they.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
I was saying, I was going to tell a stories.
Oh you tell yeah story. I thought you said, it's
a story that involves the three of us. Yeah, okay.
So let's about a month ago, probably maybe a month
and a week ago. It was the first time I
went to New York where you guys do get up.
And we walked into the production meeting, which you have
at six am Eastern time, and it's Mike Greenberg head

(11:11):
of the table, and you got some production folks, hawks
probably in there. You got us three shifters on the
wall or Lavski's on the wall. They're on their way in.
Like that's the production meeting setting. And we got through
the whole thing, and then Greenie said, Hey, what about
this Michigan job opening And he was saying those rumors,
aren't they And we ended up just kind of laying

(11:33):
out for him what the situation was, like, wause, no, no, no.
What happened was this is for the social edit. Later,
so Greeney asked about the job openings. He was talking
about Florida and news talking about Auburn and he was
talking about Penn State. Right before everyone gets up, someone
in the room who shall remain nameless, said they watch Michigan.
And then everyone settled back in their seat. They're like,
who whoa because Michigan's not open. This was before there

(11:55):
was really a whiff of that publicly. And remember he said, Michigan,
Michigan's going to go like eight and four, nine to three.
Michigan's they're getting ready for the Ohio State game. What
are you talking about? And then everyone started to share
sort of the rumors they had heard throughout the season,
and the entire picture came together in that production meeting
over like a five minute period and Greenee's Jaws just

(12:15):
on the table. And then sure enough, a week later
to the day, everything that we had said in that
production meeting ended up happening in real life, with the
only added caveat. I guess that some stuff happened internally
at Michigan that made it go public. There was a mechanism,
There was an hr based mechanism. There was a legal
based mechanism that made it all go public. And if

(12:37):
I could have had like surveillance video, if we could
have like a voyeuristic view of that production meeting. We
just packaged that footage up.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
We could sell that, Yeah, Crystal Balston, we could sell
that because everything that happened happened to a tier.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Because here's what was beautiful. Greeney is he's a college
football guy, but he's much more pro sports guy. So
he is he's in the weeds of the pro sports
rumors and the free agency rumors and the coaching carosel
on thefl and that's nice and structured. When you come
into the college football carousel world, it is a jungle
with no parameters. It's like when a natural disaster moves

(13:10):
through a town and everything just the civil society breaks
down and you just revert back to Caveman law. That's
kind of the way a college football coaching search and
college football coaching rumors are. And we were watching him.
Every time you said something, then I'd say something, then
will Uld say something, then Schefter would say something then
or lots of you would say something, and everyone's kind
of piecing together versions of what they've heard. We're all

(13:31):
adding a rubber band onto the ball, and he's like
his mouth goes from this to this to this, And
it was watching someone in real time get a sense
of what it's like to live in the college football
weeds instead of just to view them over in the
ditch from the road. We pulled him in to the weeds.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
I was going to say, I feel like we've brought
some some more college football fascination to Greenee that throughout
the year, throughout the season.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
He's always been kind of curious. And it really started
like whatever was like third week in September and you
came on and Greeney was like, who's this Josh Peate guy?
And then you did your segment via zoom and after
you've got off, it was like the commercial breaking He's like,
I think I like that job, payt guy. I think
he seems like he knows what he's talking about. And
we were obviously being out giving you your flowers behind
the scenes.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Shouting out our show. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
And then every week Greeney would get more and more
enamored with Josh Peyton has takes and what's taking place
in college football. And I think the Michigan the Michigan
situation broke, it broke its back hooked him.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Between between the weeks of the Michigan LSU with Kiffen
and Ole Miss and everything else like that is it's
been prime time college football popularity as far as diving
into all the weeds of everything that's going on.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, do you think there was any validity to kill
in the boor leaving Alabama?

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Zero?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Did you believe is this like, Hey, we're going to
talk about the outcome of the game after the game,
this is what should have happened?

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Or is did you know this had zero validity?

Speaker 3 (14:55):
I knew as far as I could know from talking
to Kaitlin several times through the I says it has
zero validity.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Okay, all right, that seems like a fair source.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
You know, I don't want a traffic in unsubstantiated rumors.
So in this in this new journalism two point zero
world and whence we live, you just got to throw
your sources out there. So everyone's like, well, how would
you know that? I talked to Kaitlyn today? Man, that's
kind of how I know what I know. You may
have a better source than Kaitlin Debora on this as
it relates to where Kaylen de Bor is going to go.
I'm just going off what the guy tells me. He's

(15:24):
never lied to man in his life, So that's my
that's where I'm sitting right.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Because you also lied to it, sitting up here talking
about Marcus Freeman.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah. Man, let's let's recap right here. Recap. I think
the Giants are going to target Marcus Freeman, and I
think he will listen to them. The Giants have since
targeted Marcus Freeman. He probably listened briefly. Instaid I'm staying
at Notre Dame. Translation, you're a fraud. You lied to us.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Somebody coming after you.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
And I click baited him. Not sure what I wanted
him to click on, but I click baited them, and
I wanted here's the harshest allegation. This is really the
only one I care about. I wanted to push Marcus
Freeman too the NFL because you guys know how much
I really traffic in the NFL. College football is a
side job for me. I'm a big NFL guy.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
You're the pipeline if I get it.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
By the way, I just build this gigantic funnel and
then I toss everything that's good about college football into
the funnel to hopefully get it to the NFL pistol
college football. Who needs college football?

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Right?

Speaker 3 (16:20):
No? I want all the prize commodities, the great coaches.
I want them all to go to the NFL. I'm
gonna lose the players to the draft within four years.
Let's get rid of the coaches too. That's in my
best interest. That's my business model, actually to push all
of the good coaches and to completely kneecap all the
great programs by pushing their coaches to the NFL.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
I'm glad you got that after your chest.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
That's pay state material.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah. And also Lincoln Riley all he does about him too.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
I'm not backing down on Lincoln Riley. Oh, that buzz
was everywhere.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Buzz was there, that is no longer there for.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
This cycle, I would assume, not like the only way
that would happen. And let me which when you look
at my key shot, I haven't heard anything on this.
The only thing that change that. Yeah, the only thing
that would change that is if which I haven't heard
is the case. But if like he were to go
the NFL route. I never hardly know about the NFL.

(17:11):
The only reason I knew about the Giants is called
Everyone kind of knew, Yeah, the Giants were gonna tart
Freeman and that was the reports. When when it happened.
So yeah, other than that, but there was a lot
of buzz about Lincoln Riley, like I was not on
an island. If you know who to listen to. I
wasn't even the only one who said that. So either
everyone lied, we kind of collaboratively lied about it, or
no one really cares about doing that. And there was

(17:32):
buzz about Lincoln Riley.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
But you're the guy. You are the guy.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, I'm the face who listened to.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Like, if I ever hear a room, I just call
you because I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
What's twenty two is. We'll talk about all of these conversations,
whether we give surface level whatever to the audience. We
have all these conversations around the show, like whether it's
before the show like oh snap, yeah, oh I heard this,
blah blah blah. We'll talk about it after the show.
But Josh, whether Josh says says something, we'll just have this.
Oh yeah, it was just feeds it even more lie. Yeah,

(18:06):
because everybody else in the same reaction as this.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Oh when you told us post show, I think that
was the most mind blowing concept we've ever heard.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
There's no why would he there's no way.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Just keep your on it. Keep frozer grenade in the
middle of our show. Yeah, nobody was in the nothing happened. Yeah,
he had to put him back for a second. Should
we get in the games?

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Let's do it?

Speaker 1 (18:27):
That's fun, all right?

Speaker 2 (18:30):
First game, Dan Lanning, Joy Maguire here, do you want Okay,
do you want to go somewhere else?

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I'm staring at the bracket.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Stare at the bracket.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
If you already have an order, go by the order.
I was just gonna make a humble suggestion, all right.
Typically on this stuff, if we have a game that
starts the previous day, I would do that one last,
because if someone's listening to us on New Year's Day,
the cotton bowls already happened, which is going to suck
for us because they know the ending. But I would
do that one last.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Okay, into the rosewell why not?

Speaker 3 (19:01):
All right? Right up?

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Speaker 1 (19:18):
We do the work. Let's get to this episode.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Okay, let's do the rose. Well, we've got Alabama versus
number one Indiana. Indiana's favorite at seven and a half.
Total points in that game is forty eight and a half.
I think it's opened up at six and a half.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Right, yeah, wait, what is it now?

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Seven and a half according to the sheet that Ryan Nolan.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
That's interesting is seven and a half.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Let me just ask one question that we can break
the game down. What is the model?

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Set model? Says Indiana minus three and a half. There's
a huge difference.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Huge difference, yea, A huge difference is Indiana.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I like it, though, I like Alabama to cover. I
just don't know if they got I just don't know
if they have all sixty minutes to beat Indiana. You
don't know if they have sixty I don't know if
they got the sixty minutes to beat Indiana.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Oh man, I just what you think? Sec Bate ty
Simpson comes on the show, does everything but howl in
your face. You went out there, you stayed in New York,
you went out there. I want to one of the
games you were able to get on the field.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Once Well heard we were going to Miami, and he's like,
ouldn't worry. I'm that you guys are supporting in New York.
He stayed in Ash do nothing. He lied, Lincoln Riley
went to New York. Two lies, as it plays on
the show.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
But onward was like, oh yeah, so Tyd Simpson. Yeah,
goes into wolf mode, which ironically you had a wolf
after you and Norman and he was on the field.
He was on the field wolf mode. He's howling. He
comes on the show afterwards, calls both of you out.
Shame on both of you for picking against him in
that round. Okay, and so you would think to yourself,
you were on.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
That graphic too. Now he spared you.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Right, I can't believe you didn't catch it last week.
I lobbed it as clear as I could to you.
Last week.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
We saw it.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
We just responded to it, just watched it hit the ground.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Like, oh my god, he's trying to dunk on us.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Here's what I'm trying to say. If you pick against
Alabama this week, you disrespect him and you hate ty Simpson.
So would that continue your prediction?

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, that's why I like it. I like Alabama to
cover to cover to cover. I'm taking Alabama plus even
and a half. Yea minety six and a half. I'm
sitting there, I'm pounding my head against the wall. I
kind of don't know which way to go. I do
believe Indiana is gonna win this game, but I'm like,
does Alabama keep it close? Six and a half seems
like a lot. Now that it's seven and a half,
we're getting a full point. I kind of like Alabama

(21:35):
score a game.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Now you're looking at before it was as hey, if
they went by a touchdown, I can see that happening
with Indiana. You look at any of the defensive lineman
Stephen Daily, he goes down, he has five and a
half sacks, celebrating with fans after the bag ten championshich is, yeah, huge,
lands on his leg, all weird. He was our best
defensive lineman. And then you watch a film of Indiana
and their defense, and they run a bunch of like

(21:56):
run stunts on first and second down, so it really
messes up. Alabama's already rushing for three point and four
yards per carry, and they do a great job of
zone blitz and exotic blitz. And if you watch the
Oklahoma Alabama game, Oklahoma in the first half ran one
specific blitz over over and over again in the middle
of that offensive line. It was linebacker or nose goes

(22:16):
across the face of the center and the linebacker comes
in and for whatever reason, series after series they cannot
figure that out. So then you think, okay, in Theanni's
kind of got the edge and everything. Then you see
Omar Cooper Junior's trying back, who missed the Big Ten
championship game we played in the first quarter, misses that game,
and he I think he has what eight hundred and
fifty nine receiving yards, My courage as well be three thousand,
might as well be three thousand. And then you see

(22:39):
Ty Simpson. He's kind of looks like between the years,
he's having a trouble, a little bit of trouble in
the first half. Late in the second quarter or early
in the second quarter, throws the ball in the Alabama
sidelines kind of a duck, but it gets him out
of whatever fog he was in. They go back and
what score thirty seven to seven in the second half,
so it kind of like, oh, is Alabama back? And
then you add the point of seven and a half

(23:00):
and I sit there thinking about we're talking at ty
Simpson and he is like he's a wolf. He gets
in my face. He puts the graphic of all of
us on, but only tags us and spares Josh Pate
and I have no choice but to go Indiana covering
minus seven and a half because of that, and it's
a piece of me. It's like, hey, if Alabama wins,

(23:20):
then I've done them a favorite yet again, because it's
clearly motivation. Ty Simpson clearly watches the show, shouldn't be
watching a gambling show. Clearly watches the show. He's a
fan of the Boys of the Boys. But I hope
he doesn't have, you know, one of the maps right now.
He can't have that in college football, John Mattier can't
have that.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Do you see this being anything other than a Ty
Simpson This is a if Alabama's gonna win, it's gonna
be a ty Simpson legacy game. It has because they're
not gonna be able to run the football. I was
talking with Garrett, who's our role tiede tier one, and
I'm thinking, I mean sixty yards that'd be improvement, that'd
be what's something that you leave the game being like, well,
at least we could run the football a little bit,
but it's gonna have to be a Ty Simpson legacy game.

(23:58):
And you're talking about what Indiana does well, is they
cut up the front. They also do exotic pressure or
zone blitzes everything else. When you do true zone dogs,
you're still sending five men to rush the passer. Where
Indiana does a good job as they do a lot
of simulated pressures, a lot of things that we did
with DMPs when I came to Tennessee in twenty eighteen,
where if you're just rushing the passer and you're playing

(24:20):
let's just say cover three, four underneath and three deep,
you're rushing four guys simulated pressures. You're bringing guys from
the second level, but you're dropping a defensive lineman out,
so that way you're still getting the simulation of a
pressure that Ty Simpson is going to have to pick
up on, but you're still dropping an in so you're
still going to get that four underneath, three deep. Look,
if you're talking about simulated pressure in the cover.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Three case, people, the thing when you bring a lot of pressure,
there's clear holes in the defense. But by dropping that
defensive lineman, one tysims is going to react to Okay,
someone's coming here, I.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Can go there.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
But there's somebody replacing in that area as well, which
can cause and turnovers and bignetti.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
You know, they're going to do a good job of
disguising at times so they can try and throw it off.
And if they're cutting it up and getting after Ohio State,
Julian's singing that offensive line, who's just saying they're not
gonna be getting after Alabama as well. That's why I
feel like it's gonna if if Bama's gonna win, it's
gonna be a ty Simpson legacy game, right, And I
think you're you're also playing the Heisman Trophy wonder Fernanda Mendoza,
Najuma tier for Nanda Mendoza. You're also playing a team

(25:16):
who can run the football, not Oklahoma who can't run
the football, a team who can run the football.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, And people I brought up Stephen Daily him getting hurt,
and he's clearly the best defensive lineman. But because of
the stunts that take place on first and second down,
the simulator pressures a lot of times a guy can
come free. So when you lose your best player that
you're usually scheming, because of these simulator pressures, guys have
more opportunities to run free, which leads me to believe
there's still going to be an equal amount of pressure

(25:41):
with Steven Day out of the game.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
And we can just talk amongst each other because we
know he's gonna go here the second. Yeah, But you're
right because when old buddies out their best player on
the d line, when he's out, they're not just true
rushing all the time to where it's like Jeffrey Simmons
on the Tennessee Titans, where he's just going to absolutely
disrupt the entire game because he gets multiple guys. You've
got to, hey, we got a scheme against him because
they are doing so much creativity with sinding, Blitz is

(26:02):
sending pressure everything else.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
That's where Yeah, and before we let Josh go, it's like,
do we believe in Ty Simpson, No doubt, that's the boy,
that's the guy that's our exactly. But when you can't
effectively run the ball and make yourself one dimensional, it's like,
all right, can Big Nettie take all this time and
they'll be like, Okay, this is guy we clearly have
to beat, so let's just make sure and disrupt him

(26:26):
so he's never safe. Make him get outside the pocket,
and then you know, have your guys play in.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
The back end.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Now you're not worried about the run game, but let me.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Throw something at you please. Ohia State has a down
game in the Big Ten Championship. Down game, down game.
Ohio State has a down game where Indiana sneaks him.
Indiana shows up, they've had some time off, they show
up and it's Indiana, Notre Dame last year when we
were staying on that sideline. They get hit in the mouth.
Bama runs away with it.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I love, I love where your head's at. It's completely
normal for you to think that way. But we're also
looking at a year or two of some of the
that were in that locker room against under Dame.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
They're back.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
They understand the process, how the playoffs worked. Before Indiana
this was like a what a great story. One of
the worst program at football programs in the history of
the sport college football. They've made it the playoffs the
first time. This Kurt signetic guy, who is he?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
I've googled him. Apparently he wins. Now they're in the
year two of it, Nana Mendoza wins the Heisman. It's
a completely different attitude that's kind of taken place here.
And to say they had a down game, I think
Ohio State is probably gonna go on a crazy little
run yet again. And regardless of how Michigan was this year,
that win for Ohio State was big for them and

(27:36):
they let them go. Thank God that's done, because they
clearly were the better team. They should have probably won
the year before, however they didn't. And now there's all
this amplified pressure taking place for Ohio State and they
get a win the way they did against Michigan, it's
kind of understandable that they'd be like a little hey,
we finally got them Rocky off for back, which makes
me go Indiana like they might not be as good

(27:56):
as what we sell in the beig ten Championship, but
based on one dimensional Alabama offense and big Netty, his culture,
his attitude, the way he talks about, you know, the
process and emotions don't really matter. We're working on fundamentals
and he just approaches everything the way a head coach
should It's like, I don't see these guys having a
break a bye and then walking into this thing slow.

(28:17):
They understand what that stake and they understand what the
logos that people are gonna look at. Regardless of the
one being next to Indiana's, people are gonna go, oh shit,
Alabama's gonna mop this team. And that's where Indiana catches
the edge evenymore.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Josh, this is a tough show to do because we
picked the biggest games. The biggest games have the tightest spreads.
The tightest spreads mean it could go either way. It's
tough to give yourself an edge. We're trying to see
through the fog a lot of times when we're trying
to make these picks. This one's not that way for me.
Alabama's gonna win this game outright, So I'll take the points,

(28:49):
especially if you're giving me seven and a half. I
love it. Both of you are doubting ty Simpson. That's
what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Nope, no doubt shit, Josh, don't you put that. He said,
ty Simon is a dog. Their offense is one dimensional.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Let me tell you what a dog would do in
this game. He'd win the game. He'd win the game.
That's what he would get the point dogs do in
he went on the road against Georgia. Did they have
a run game against Georgia earlier in the year.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Come on now that Dell was earlier in the year,
earlier in the year.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Glad you're mentioning this, William. Do you want to know
why I'm going back to the Georgia game, Please do
tell sources deep inside the program tell me that Alabama's
team will be as healthy as not just they've been
since the Georgia game, but since they've been since the
second scrimmage of fall camp. You hadn't seen this team
all year, and I get the added psychological benefit of

(29:40):
the rubber band effect of what the final three quarters
of that Oklahoma game did. You just summoned the Ohio
State example and it was good. I want to go
back to the year before the Ohio State Michigan example
where they lose, but somehow, some way that ends up
being the psychological rubber band for Ohio State and they
go on a run. That spread is what it is
because of what these teams have been this year. But

(30:02):
I'm not trying to look in my rearview mirror to
pick the Rose Bowl. I'm trying to look in the windshield.
My entire premise for my belief that Alabama's gonna win
this game out right, is because I believe the team
that will be on the field, or rather the performance
level that will be on the field, will benefit. Number One,
for having jumped in ice cold water and survived it
last week, and then you kind of feel yourself a
little bit. Number two, I think the Steven Daily loss

(30:24):
is even bigger than you guys just made it. You
pointed it out and you talked about it. They haven't
had to play a series without that guy all year.
And if you go back and watch them against Oregon,
you go back and watch them against Ohio State, He's
constantly in the backfield. If I give Ty Simpson any
time to throw. The only other set of receivers that
Indiana faced like Alabama has is Ohio State. Ohio State

(30:45):
was very hesitant to even use that part of their weaponry,
which I think would be different a second time around
if they played them. But the other thing that I
think people are forgetting here is Alabama's defense carried them
while they were banged up, and then they go into
the Georgia again and they're totally crippled. And the Georgia
game is the lasting impression, even above the Oklahoma game,
that I think a lot of people have in their minds,

(31:06):
even though that Oklahoma game just happened like two weeks ago.
I really think most people when they picture Alabama in
their head. Some people probably even still remember the Florida
State game from the beginning of the year, but you
really remember that Georgia game because the mind thinks in
terms of worst case, like what's the disaster scenario. The
best case scenario FORBAMA this year has been winning close games.
The worst case has been the whole wheels come off,

(31:28):
all four of them come off, like they did against Georgia.
I don't think any semblance of that team is taking
the field this week at the Rose Bowl because I've
got Josh Quavis back, I've got a healthy Parker Brailsford,
I've got LT Overton back. They thought medically that guy
wasn't going to play again this year. And remember, he's
not coming back from injury. He's coming back from medical,
so it's not like they're trying to ease him back

(31:48):
in with an ankle or a knee so out Indiana's
best defensive front player enter Alabama's best defensive front player.
And in Indiana's closest games this year, you're talking about
a five point winning against Indiana or Iowa. You're talking
about a come from behind win against Penn State. You're
talking about hanging thirteen to beat Ohio State. These haven't
been blowout games. I think Alabama's team will play at

(32:11):
the highest level that they've played at all year. Therefore,
I think what we're going to see is not indicative
necessarily in their worst moments of what we have seen.
And the other thing about Indiana their talent, like their
best skill set has been high level execution, which will
buzzsaw you through a regular season. The one thing that
I worry about is the same thing growing up as
a Braves fan that I worried about with Greg maddis.

(32:32):
Greg Maddox was the ace of my staff, and he
was a craftsman, and he never hit ninety five on
the gun, but he didn't need to, and he'd win
like eighteen nineteen games in the regular season. He's the professor.
I don't need to sell I don't need to say
I want to beat you actually, look at my record.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
I need to beat you. He said.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
We weren't going to do it.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Now he's trying to do it. Well, just safety. I
am Alabama plus seven and a half.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
They're getting the.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Post and I'll get to look, it was always Alabama
plus seven and a half. Hey, you're not in Indiana. No,
I'm saying Indiana. I think Indiana is gonna win, but
I think Alabama's gonna cover.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
You are gonna win. That's the irony of all this.
You are gonna win.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
I said it right before, like I said it honestly
at the very top.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
And he started talking and thinking to myself, Oh my god,
Yeah he has.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
He think about who his preseason national champ was, Alabama, Alabama.
Think about like, what kind of equity he has in
Alabama winning this game. Think about what kind of equity
has in this storytelling family.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Think about his wife.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yeah, his dad.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
One of the dirtiest players I've ever met. Why would
I even listen to you talking about my dad?

Speaker 2 (33:42):
You know, Hey, if you're so confident Alabama takeing Alabama
on money line already did Okay, Yeah, so this is
what it's like to be on an island.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
The problem the problem.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
No, Actually, what's with you?

Speaker 3 (33:59):
You get in the playoffs? This used to be like
one of your religious part of your show prep is
I'm listening to my words parented back in my face
because you've listened to my show when my show.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, I had to, had to because you say things
so beautifully and eloquently. I can't help but just keep
it in my head and then it comes out of
my mouth in a less beautiful way, and I just
can't do that.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
So I decided then when you when you called him
on it, he's probably thinking, Okay, I gotta yeah, I texted.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
By the way, I don't mean to do that. It
just kind of happens.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
We left that day, everyone's laughing in a great mood,
and then I looked down on my phone. It's like,
I can tell there were tear drops on the phone.
If you texted me this apology, I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
It had a bunch of yeah, my team is for me.
That's kind of what happened.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
So I wanted to stroke your cheek, like it's okay, man. No,
let me tell you about Greg Maddics. He would get
to the playoffs and he get let up in the playoffs.
And it's not cause Greg Matics was a bad titue.
It's because he had to rely on craftsmanship and high
level precision to overcome raw power that he I'm not
saying Indiana lacks power. I'm saying they lack elite athleticism

(35:04):
and because of that, they're so fundamentally sound technically, they
just out execute folks when you get to the postseason
that can win. But they've got to actually do Obama's
been doing all year. They got to walk the tightrope.
That's what Indiana has to do. They don't have this
massive athletic edge. They're playing a team in Alabama that's
had to live that way all year. And they're playing
a team in Alabama that really doesn't get crowbarred down

(35:28):
to a halt if you take away their ground game
because they haven't run the ball anyway. So I think
Alabama's going to be very, very efficient throwing the ball.
Weather could be horrible, by the way, weather could be
horrible here. A lot of people have theories on who
that helps, and a lot of times it's just a
wash pun. A lot of times it's a wash I
always love if I've got a deep receiver Corps. I

(35:49):
always love that those guys know where they're going and
the defense doesn't. And I think from a reactionary standpoint,
a lot of times bad weather or a wet track
works against the defense a lot more than it just
helps the one game.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
You got seven studs for that.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, so I'm gonna take.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
King Hans, no doubt. I don't know the size Ties got,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
I don't know how the rest, but I have all
the games. I'm praying Indiana, not because of I love Tie.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
He's doubting Big Netty, Indiana. Twitter is gonna eat this up.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
So you're on this show. You're taking Alabama money line.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yes, that's all I needed.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
That's all I needed because if I had that l
category him.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
I started laughing when he was talking about Who's who's
the d lineman coming back for Bama lt Overton lt Overton.
When he was like, he's not just coming back from injury.
I was hoping he was gonna say he's coming back
from death. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
I talked to Gary about it yesterday to okay, he's back,
and I was all on Alabama yesterday and then for
whatever reason.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Oh hey, so you you were mentioning, Hey, if they
get sixty yards on the ground, like, that's a good
day right for Alabama. Got some good news for you.
I was just looking at fans duel over under seventy
seven and a half rushing yards for Alabama?

Speaker 1 (37:05):
What are you taking there?

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Don't have a strong feel on it, because I think
they can run it for sixty eight yards and win. Like,
I think there's several pads. I don't count on Alabama
to run the ball. If they ran it, that would
just be a crazy added bonus to me. I think
if they if they rush for over seventy seven yards,
it's something like Ryan Williams on some orbit motion or
something like that ends up breaking off thirty five and

(37:27):
then the rest of the game just looks like a
normal Alabama game. And they have eighty four rushing yards,
but half of it comes on one play and it's
probably the ends of a receiver. So say all that's say,
I don't have a feel on that one, but I'll
take Alabama moneyline.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Alabama money line Alabama plus seven and a half, yes,
Indian of minor seven and a half.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Onward, what game would you have to go to next?

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Josh, let's go to the Sugar Bowl.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Sugar Bowl All Miss versus Georgia. Georgia's favor by six
and a half points. Total in that game is fifty
five and a half. This team played before forward seventeen
points in the fourth quarter All Miss towards zero.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Forty three thirty five final.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Right, Yes, nice little shootout. Fun, little shootout, fun little shootout. Touchdown, touchdown,
touchdown every drive.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Georgia never punted. Ole Miss had touchdowns in their first
five drives. Trinidad Chambliss's first SEC road start. They played
obviously earlier in the year, so that was an ath.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
This was pre Georgia defense coming alive all of a sud.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Yeah's true.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
This is pre Georgia getting to the quarterback. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Some say in Georgia circles. The latter portion of this
game is where their defense turned a corner. I don't
disagree with them. Kirby's trying to downplay that. He was like, oh,
I don't even remember how the end of that game went.
Yes you do, Yes, you do. So something flipped a
switch in the Georgia defense mentality and they started getting
after the quarterback, or at least started affecting the quarterback
a whole lot more. But I think that this is

(38:53):
the most dangerous quarterback in the playoffs. All the teams
included Ty Simpson, Julian Say and we got the Heisman
trou if you winner Fernando Mendoza in this tournament. If
there was one that just like scared me, it would
actually be Trinidad Chandlis because I don't know what his
ceiling is because he's ascended all year. He can do
more with legs, arms combined than anyone. And the only
one who would challenge that's really Dante Moore at Oregon.

(39:14):
So I think this is a really unique challenge for Georgia.
The reason I'm going to go Georgia and I actually
went Georgia and minus the points. I like Georgia minus
up to seven, so we can get six and a half.
Right now? Is I always just blindly trust Kirby in
these spots. Remember the Georgia Texas game when they played
him in Athens and at the time, like everyone was
trying to say, ooh man, Texas getting hot Texas coming

(39:38):
out of the bi like maybe this is the time,
and Georgia just shut him down. And my entire premise
for taking him is Kirby's not going to get beat
in the spot. And that's the same way I feel
about these games. He's earned so much like blind trust.
It's not blind, but he's earned so much trust in
my mind that I think about him in these spots.
This is where their season ended last year. That was
the Notre Dame game. They got beat like twenty three

(39:58):
to ten. That was Ducton's first start. Because Beck was
out for the year. You still got Gunner Stockton. But
now I've seen him in several big games. Tennessee game
earlier this year, they needed to score forty. They did.
They needed to score forty against Ole Miss. They did
the Alabama game. The first time around, he lost, but
then he played really really good football. The second time around.
The Texas game he played really well. But the Old

(40:20):
Miss game was his best game. So if Georgia can
win scoring twenty, yeah that's great. That probably is a
game that favors them. But if they need to get
up into the forties, I trust that they can. They're
playing on a fast track. They're getting Kolby Young back
their wide receiver. It's so weird because you normally get
to the playoffs and you're thinking it's a war of attrition.
Who's left. But you got some of these teams, Bama

(40:40):
getting Overton back, You're getting guys back. If you're Oregon,
you're getting guys back. If you're Georgia. Not to say
they're not banged up, cause they are, but I like
Georgia to be able to win. Probably still a pretty
high scoring game. Honestly, I don't hate over fifty five
and a half. Are we allowed to take a total
as our pick? I would to take over fifty five

(41:01):
and a half as my pick, so that's on the record,
but then off the record, just us talking. I would
also lay the points with Georgia.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah, Georgia's gotten a whole lot better throughout the year.
Everyone was knocking them for starting so starting slow and
the second half turning it on and just being able
to will themselves into beating people. I think George is
probably gonna win this game. I love the storyline of
the head coach being like, this is Charlie Weiss's offense.
You could tell the entire team is like, fuck Lane Kiffin,
We're gonna show him. And meanwhile, Lane Kiffin is at

(41:32):
the LSU Bowl game. He like leaves early and everyone's
up in arms about that he.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Just made his appearance.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah, but I just love the story of these kids
being like, we're a bunch of misfits. We have no
leaders stability taking place right now. Our guy left left
us during a playoff run. So I'm gonna take all
of Miss with the points. Everything you said about Trindadad Chambliss,
I don't have a whole lot to hang on my
heat other than that, because Georgia has turned it up

(41:58):
quite a bit and this is more of a hope
than it is a breakdown.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yeah, I would I would love to see an upset
with Old Miss, just in the college fool will play
up the spirit of the playoff and Old Miss his
story and everything else. I just for me, I'm taking
Georgia with the points just because it's more of the
Kirby Smart. It's like this team in here so many times,
so many times, right, Like this spot is part of
the process for Georgia, the preparation for playoffs and being

(42:22):
in massive bowl games or national titles, SEC championship, Like
it's always part of the process for Georgia and Ole
Miss being kind of being new in this spot and
also without with all the drama that surrounded them. I'm
just I'm leaning on Kirby Smart and Georgia to cover
in this game, especially the way they've played the last
like five weeks, defensively, coming alive, getting after the quarterback

(42:43):
Gunnar Stockton in these moments. Yeah, I like Georgia. I
like Georgia to cover for.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Both of Ever on Georgia, does the break hold any
weight for you when you kind of look at Oregon
and Ohio State last year?

Speaker 1 (42:55):
It does? But again, Kirby Smart, like whatever break that
they've had, like well you've had like bowl preps during
bowl games, or you've had long breaks or a month
off at a time. Like to me, it's like Kirby
Smart just understands this situation at all times, year in
and year out, to where anybody who walks in that building,
in that program as a freshman, they just this is

(43:18):
all that they've known, so they know when their head
coach is gonna be hard on them when they might
be getting, you know, an off day because of injuries.
Even though Kirby Smart, you got an injured team, you
gott what a scared team? What do you say? A
few weeks ago before. It's like when they were talking
about if you're injured and you don't practice, you have
a you end up having a scared team. You end
up having a scared team. Like I just I just
believe in Kirby Smart. So it does a little bit.

(43:39):
But again, it's like Oregon that was orgon Dan Lannings
is kind of their first experience in that moment and
coming off a very pissed off Ohio State team losing
the Michigan h thumping Tennessee. Then they get Oregon where
Oregon's had zero prep. It's kind of the first year
of this twelve team playoff. But again with Kirby Smart
that I just I don't really have much doubt that
he's probably handles it as good as he possibly can

(44:02):
coming off that sec time.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Yeah, I will say, like my answer is, yeah, with
the teams coming off the buy, it's just a blanket
concern for me. I never know. I could say the
same thing about Indiana, I could say the same thing
about Oregon. I'd say the same thing about Georgia here,
I just never know. And there have been stretches of
Mike Bobo's career where slow starts have haunted them. There

(44:24):
have been stretches this year where Georgia struggled with that.
It was a little more early in the season. But
then the other thing I think you got to avoid,
like the recency bias a little bit. Of the last
two games you saw Georgia play was Georgia Tech and Alabama,
and neither one of them had like an existent offense
at the time they played Georgia, and so Georgia just
shut them both down. And that could fool you a

(44:44):
little bit into not thinking highly of the defense. I
think highly of the defense, but maybe overinflating it a
little bit. And then all of a sudden you face
a different challenge and what a first two possessions here
for Ole miss are the same way that previous game
started and it's fourteen to nothing. So then the other thing.
I don't know that this is able to be quantified.
I don't want to overlook this because I was just

(45:05):
thinking about this. So this game last year, Sugar Bowl
last year for Georgia specifically, think about this experience. There's
a terrorist attack in New Orleans, so they bump the
game back. I think a day Kirby Smart's dad dies
while he's at the game while he's in New Orleans
for the Sugar Bowl, and then from a purely athletic standpoint,

(45:26):
their season gets ended. So going back to New Orleans
a year later, like, what must that feel like for them?

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (45:32):
What must that feel like for him? That cannot You're
glad you're there, But like from a competitive PTSD sort
of standpoint, that's got to do a number on you.
It pales in comparison to what people who are actually
victims of the terrorist attack I had to deal with, obviously,
but in football terms, that can't be the easiest trip.
I'm pretty sure there were three other semi final or

(45:52):
quarter final spots they would have preferred to go if
they had their choice. But here we are New Year's Night.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, it's a good point. A lot of options over Ole,
miss the points Georgia to cover.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
This might actually this is separation Sugar Bowl, second separation
Sugar Bowl.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Not Oregon. We're not going to Oregon yet, correct?

Speaker 3 (46:13):
I would go hang Oregon, Okay, let's go Organ.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Talk about the Orange Bowl. Now, Oregon versus Texas Tech
were the same. Oregon favored two and a half total
points in the game is fifty one and.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
A half mm that dropped, didn't it? Wow?

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Okay, carry on, Dan Lanning back in the playoffs versus
Texas Tech, a team that people say bought their entire
They bought their entire team, would they, Joe?

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Would they not?

Speaker 2 (46:41):
And bringing the Bay twelfth get themselves a buy. They're
in complete uncharged territory. Oregon's at least been in this
position before. Number one run defense in the country. Yeah,
m hm, check out Agaz.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Yeah, Oregon one of the best run offenses in the country.
Dante Moore had.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
A nice tune up game against a G five team
that will really be named. Since then, every starter has transferred.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Yeah, only the only the logo remains.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Then Dante Moore looked great.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Will oh before before you go oh no, I don't
know who this is from, it says, don't forget Oregon
spent a fair amount of money in the portal as well.
Get our name out of your mouth. I don't last
far it was necessary Wow. Yeah, yeah, so Oregon is
pretty active in the portal as well. Just before the
whole world claims that Texas Tech a bunch of portal merchants.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Yeah, a lot of money more than Texas Tech, right,
that's what some say. People are saying that these are
not public records.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah, I can't.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
I can't folly you this information.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Right, this is all allegedly Oregon doesn't have Nike and
Phil Knight, right, Yeah, I'm full forty dollars into their roster.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Yeah, it's all allegedly.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
It's a lofty number. That is a lofty number in
this economy.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Is it culture or is it is it Landing or
is it the narrow you know, because you kind of
lean Texas Tech because I haven't heard a whole lot
of Joey MacGuire saying a whole lot about Dan Lanning
kind of kept it quiet a.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
Little bit, and Landing said this game should be in Lubbock.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Which is I think a great move.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
And also just a is it bold face?

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Lie?

Speaker 3 (48:15):
I never knew, always kind of skim you don't want
to play this game in Lubbock. He's saying it because
he knows that it can't happen, and he knows that's
what the.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Spirit of college football needs is everybody who have a
bye get the host of playoff.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
He is right about that. I'm not disagreeing with him
in principle, don't you wish this game was in love. Yes,
I'm just saying that if he was in Lubbic, I doubt.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
I doubt.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Landing opens this presser and says, ladies and gentlemen, tell
you what I'm really happy about. We're going to Lubbock, Texas.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Isn't it great?

Speaker 3 (48:42):
Don't you love it? I highly doubt that would happen.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Yeah, McGuire's kind of he kept it quiet.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Yeah, yeah, he has.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
I think. So there's a little something I got. No, yeah, stop,
because when I think of Joey McGuire, I think of
Texas Tech. You know my love for Jacob Rodriguez, his squads,
the physique, yeah, the mustache, the everything that Run Defense
has going on, going against a victim of the deep state.
Victim of the deep state. Yes, ye had a.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Cat that sat there on national television and hit the
crossbar right before.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Got a lot of juice.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Just yeah, he's got a lot of momentum, a.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Lot of momentum. He's got a lot of juice, a
lot of swag. But I cannot help but think that
Oregon has been working for this spot for an entire year.
I cannot help but think about Dan Lanning, wake it
up in a cold sweat, over and over at least
once a week throughout this entire year, no matter what
cliche bullshit. He tells the press conference on how he's

(49:39):
felt since that ass whipping that the Ohio State Buckeys
and Ryan Day gave his little ass a year ago.
Because they are in this spot, they were in this
round that they were a year ago. This is everything
that they've worked towards. This is where there's their season
is supposed to start. And I also can't get out
of my head the letter I got. No, you didn't
get a lot in the mail last night. There is

(50:00):
was it overnighted or was it standard business? It was
just it was just folded like this sitting in my maulbow.
You got to drive by.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Wait, this was not in an envelope. No, there was
no postage.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
No listen to make sure.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
I just want to authenticate it. I just want to see.
So this is a this is a letter, This is handwritten. Yeah,
all right, continue, it's real.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
So I don't know who it's from.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
You guys can tell me because I'm leading, I'm leaning
tech right now, Let's not go there. Keep their mouth shut.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Let's hear it out.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
First, knock, knock, who's there? Red Raider? Red Raider? Who?
How many times do you think that pussy has asked
his wife would shoes he should wear this weekend? What's
his excuse going to be when it's sugar Daddy Phil Night?
What's his excuse going to be to a sugar Daddy
Phil Knight when he loses with the forty million dollars

(50:54):
plus roster? So it is true. Don't forget the type
of guy he is. He claps from the plane. He
was the kid that were that would remind the teacher
that homework was due. He plugs his nose when he
jumps in the pool. He even plugs his nose when
he gets in the shower. No, get off his meat, Willie.
See how's that big ten butt taste? Red Raider fan

(51:17):
from for Life, Joey Mack could be anywhe.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Wrestle Mania seventeen, Steve Austin versus the Rot, Austin turns
heel wins the WWF. Now in the Championship, Jim Ross
is sitting at ringside and he's just screaming. I thought
I knew that man. I thought I knew Steve Austin.
I didn't know how he felt at the time because
I was a kid. But I kind of know that
feeling now because I know Joey McGuire, or I thought

(51:47):
I did. I thought I knew Joey McGuire. I thought
I knew Joey McGuire. I thought I knew that man.
But the Joey McGuire I know Joey McGuire one point
zero would not have done that. But joe McGuire two point.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
Oh dark Joey playoff, Joey playoff, Joey playoff Joey Mack
apparently has peeled off a layer and what was underneath
is something more terrifying than we could have ever imagined.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
This is Buffalo Bill Dan landing down in the basement
in some pit. He just told Dan to put the
lotion on the skin.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Yeah, and it.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Sounds like Dan has no other option.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Would shoes you wearing, Danny boy?

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Oh, that's terrible.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
What if Dan just shows up in a pair of
black Jays, no color, nothing on him.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
I'm taking organ.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
You know. You know I said before that note, I
was leaning Texas Tech, and the main reason was is
no one was saying that Joey McGuire was keeping it quiet.
People from Texas Tech were being polite about organ But
after that letter, man, here's what I'll say if that letter.
If Dan Lenning sees that letter and then loses the
Texas Tech, that program might be done.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Not only loses the Texas Tech but loses in this
spot two years in a row. I'm gonna ride with
my boy. We're kinda fake noise. We're gonna get about
Dan Lanning and not being able to win the big
one or would it.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Be fake at that point? Got lost lost Indiana?

Speaker 1 (53:15):
I fake in the sense of Dan Franklin. Do you
start coming forward? That's what people will say, Dan.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Franklin, don't do that.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Danny Franklin, Danny Franklin, don't do that.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
I'm not doing it.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
I'm just saying that's people will do it.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
People will do that's fair. You're just saying if they lose,
some of the first tweets we will see on X
is gonna be Danny Franklin.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
The AI, Dan Lannings face, James Franklin's body. Yeah, don't
do that anyway.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
I would never do that to my guy. I want
to be very clear in that I would never do
that to my guy. But if that letter holds true
and Dexas Tech wins, God forbids covers this tiny little.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Line, which they would do if they wont don't don't
take Texas. Don't take Texas Tech to win, but Oregon
to cover. We've gone down that road once this year.
We don't want to take the dog on the money line.
But the favorite cover.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Was who was that? Iowa was that I was stayed.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
I don't think it's important.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
My brain doesn't go back that far.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
It's important. I think it's important that you didn't smile
a lit when you said it said yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
I just sat there and was like, this is I'm staying.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
I'm taking dog money line. I'm laying the points, but
I'm taking the dog on the money line.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Give me an organ, give me loyalty, give me Dan
Lanning to get this monkey off his back.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
I'm surprised you're not going with the Red Raiders.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
I was thinking about you even before the collegewall play.
If you're like, I kind of want I think they're
a little bit of a dark horse. I thought that,
but you told me something.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
What was it thing?

Speaker 3 (54:46):
You told me that I'm taking an organ?

Speaker 1 (54:49):
No, but the gap integrity just whenever some gids said
to him, there's a look that he has in his
eyes where it ain't coming. He said so many different
things like you got to help him out, ga ga.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Oh yeah. Well, so Taylor comes to me to break
down line play a whole lot. And so we were
talking about gap integrity the other day, and we were
talking about just the style of play that Texas Tech
has incorporated very effectively in the Big Twelve this year,
and their their stat profiles like a silo, it's just
Big twelve teams because that's all they played Oregon State.
Both of them played Oregon State back to back weeks.

(55:21):
There's a mutual opponent here and it was pretty much
the same outcome. So then elsewhere you're wondering, all right,
what did they do well? They did everything they did
in the Big twelve, all right, Now, they blew everyone out.
When they had their starting quarterback in Big Twelve play,
no one ran the ball on Kansas State ran it
for one to twenty six. That was the best rushing
output anyone had against Texas Tech all year. And yet

(55:43):
the over under on total rushing yards for Oregon is
one forty two and a half. Well it was, and
it's one forty four after what I did to it.
So I attacked that number because I actually think the
biggest edge in this game is Organ's going to be
able to run the ball better than anyone has on
Texas Tech. I fully understand that Joey, author of that note,

(56:04):
Willaged will be taking this and I'm not even alleging
that they're going to put it in the hype video
because earlier this year I thought Kansas would cover against
Texas Tech foolishly. I was pretty vocal about it on
the show that week, and then Texas Tech just ran
it up on Kansas. And then I got a text,
not a letter, a text, and the text was from

(56:26):
one Joey Maguire and it was a video link to
the video that they had showed the team the Friday
night before the game, and my prediction was laced throughout
the video. They did everything but put a clown nose
on me. And so I understand what I'm about to
say is going to be used. It's going to be leverage.

(56:47):
It's going to be weaponized inside the walls of the
Texas Tech hotel down there in Miami. But I don't
care because I really do think Organ's going to be
able to run the ball. And if they can do that,
they have full balance and they'll be able to operate offensively,
and they'll put Texas Tech in the spot no one
else has, and that's in a dog fight in the
fourth quarter or maybe even having to play from behind. Now,
that doesn't mean they can't. It just means that they've

(57:07):
been so good this year they haven't been in that spot.
And I think they're gonna get put in that spot.
And I think what we saw Ohio State due to
Oregon last year sort of hit the reset button in
Oregon's mind and everything was built on peaking at the
right time because Oregon just kind of peaked during the
season last year and then whatever was left got served
up to Ohio State, and Ohio State peaked at the

(57:27):
right time. I think Oregon's gonna peak at the right time,
and I think they're gonna go down there and they're
gonna win, and they're gonna look in the bus rear
view mirror as they pull out of the parking lot
knowing we could be right back in this building on
January nineteenth. I think it is because where they're playing
this quarterfinal game is where they played the national championship game.
Because college football playoff system is stupid, so you play

(57:49):
in some buildings twice. God forbid, we played these second
round games on campus. We couldn't have that. That's got
to change this, yeah, dude, some of the get in prices.
So before I go, Oregon wins. My favorite prop of
the playoffs is Oregon over total rushing yards one hundred
and forty two and a half, which I think is
one forty four and a half. Now, it's my biggest
wager of the playoffs. Period. We're gonna have to all

(58:11):
hit that period.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
We're gonna have to hit that.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Now, the get in prices for these games, something's got
to be done. There are rumors on the streets that
a couple of these games won't even be at capacity.
Cotton Bowl, which we're about to break down, Orange Bowl,
some of the get in prices are under one hundred dollars.
Rose Bowl. It's going to rain like five inches, but
still get in prices insanely cheap out there. Now you
may be thinking, oh, man, you're the future commissioner, what

(58:34):
do you have against affordable ticket prices? It's affordable because
there's no demand, because everyone's looking at the game saying,
why would I pay money to go to a quarterfinal
game one thousand miles away? If we win, I'll just
go to the next round games. And if we lose,
I just paid money to go watch our season end.
So either way, I don't want anything to do with that.
Whereas these games could be played in where Columbus and

(58:57):
Lubbock and Eugene and and uh Athens, that's where we
could be watching these games happen on New Year's Day?

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Are you going any of these games?

Speaker 3 (59:07):
I'm not going to a single quarterfinal game.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
If these games were at the locations you were.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Just saying, multiple, How were we going to multiple? I'm
with you, Yeah, all right?

Speaker 1 (59:17):
He said, none of them?

Speaker 3 (59:18):
None of them?

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Organ organ, organ, organ, big organ, how big big, like thirty.
What's the model say about this game?

Speaker 1 (59:31):
I'm gonna say, I'm going to.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
Minus four and a half.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
That's good enough for me.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
One, yeah, four and a half.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
I'm gonna go Oregon move the line to minus nine
and a half.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
So ALLT line in it, ALLT line. You're gonna screenshot
that and send it to me.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Yeah, all right, he'll tweet it. I'll fucking put it
out there.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
I'll fuck.

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Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Every weekend's got games. Well, one fits just right. This
is the True Classic game of the week. We got
Will's favorite Miami versus Ohio State. It is at the
Cotton Bowl. Say his favorite at minus nine and a half.
Total points in that game is forty one and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
You weren't at this game.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Miami beat Texas A, and m at Texas A and M.
I think the score in the game was ten to
three three reamy one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Miami won.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
That's why they're playing in this game. And kicker missed
what four field goals?

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
I don't put that all on him. We were playing
in a hurricane. You felt it more than I did.
You were way higher than I was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Yeah, it was was still the psyche.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Do you think so?

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Yeah, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
And stadium goes straight up and down like we were
on at the second highest level and it won that
windy for us and we were above the field goal posts. Yeah,
so it wasn't like there was a little bore tax.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
You know better than me. And even if not Psyche,
if he happens to watch this show and he just
hears that, then that could play into the site, should
I be we should put a.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Spoiler up for him, like if you're the Miami kicker,
don't watch this part of the segment.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Look all right, So last night I watched in an
NFL quarter, So that's why I'm talking to the NFL. Wow,
Atlanta needed a fifty one yarder. I remember that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
I think the thought that dude just piped it like
as good a looking kick as you could possibly kick.
I know a lot of kicks every week, but you
split the uprights the Miami game, I thought that dude
drilled one, like wouldn't change a thing about the way
the ball came off the foot, about the snap, about
the place, about the hold, and it's on its way
and then Win takes it, which is not going to

(01:01:48):
happen because I have the forecast in my hand. Is
a kickoff in Jerry world? What is it? Seventy degrees
zero mile per hour? Wins?

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Wow? Is that because it's not even to be sunny?

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
That the little windows aren't even gonna come into play?
The windows because it's a night game? So who cares?

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
That makes sense?

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
So I don't worry about special teams. I don't worry
about kicking from Miami. What I do worry about is
Carson Beck. But should I? But should I worry about
Carson Beck? I'm working on a theory here, and my
theory is that Miami realized their teeth were clenched pretty
tight defensively in that A and M game, and the
only way they thought to themselves that we're going to

(01:02:28):
lose this is if we give it away, And we
would give it away by putting the ball in the
air and Carson Beck throwing some picks, and I just
think they throw atle play calling down. I'd you will
not convin me, put it in another way, you will
not convince me that Carson Beck is a liability offensively
for Miami. If he is, they're going to get smoked
in this game. So if I'm wrong, then it's it's
Ohio State altline. It's like Ohio State big. I don't

(01:02:51):
think that he's played a ton of ball. He's played
in several big games. He's been a weapon more times
than not. I'm not saying like top five future draft
pick or anything like that, but I'm saying I think
they can lean on him to make plays here. And
I don't know. Man, there's so much talk about the
physicality with Miami, with good reason. It's a really physical team.
It's a really physically impressive team. Ohio State twitter is

(01:03:15):
some of the worst in the world at hearing what
you don't say. Earlier this year, I go to the
Miami FSU game, I say, man, there's there's no team
in the country that physically looks like Miami. They took
it to mean there's no team better than Miami in
the country, which I didn't say. Ironically, these two teams
play each other. Now, I'm still gonna say, look at
it on the field, there's no team that looks like Miami.
Doesn't mean they'll win the game though. They're a nine

(01:03:36):
and a half point dog for a reason. But if
you want to get like really simplistic about it. You
do the O line versus D line edge, you do
the D line versus O line edge. There is at
least an argument to be made that Miami has a
two way edge. There slide edges like fifty two, forty eight,
fifty five, forty five, But there, I think you can
make that argument. I haven't said that about anyone else
Ohio State played this year. I'll just say that quarterback experience,

(01:03:59):
it edge goes to Miami. Who has the better quarterback?

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
That one.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
We could debate a little bit more and it's really situational,
but I ended up, well, I think so.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
I think so Julian sand has two aliens he throws to.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
That's true. If he throws it to, that would be
the argument. Hey, you know who's calling plays in this game? Offensively?

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
X factor?

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Ryan Day? Yeah, yeah, solid up and comer in the
coaching profession, Ryan Day. Friend friend of your program, friend.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Of the show, friend of the show. Nope, person, not
a friend of Taylor. Taylor does respect randw Yeah, respect,
there's a respect level. But if I'm in Columbus, Ohio,
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
There's a respect level. Yeah for him, I have a
respect level. For Ryan Dale, there's no doubt about it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Not quite enough to look him in the eyes on
the camera, but there's a respect. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
You know damn well how that bus works. You bite
your tongue. I know how that bust.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
They don't. They don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
You explained it and me that monitor this offseason we got.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
I got a right of the camp bag monitor.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Look it up the whole time.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
I mean, I am going to take Ohio State in
the game for the same reasons I took Georgia against
Ole Miss because I don't want to overlook the staff
factor here in the staffing agent having been there before.
It's a big game program. This is unfamiliar territory for
all of Miami. I don't really care. Like nineties, early
two thousands, Nobody on that staff in their current role,

(01:05:32):
let me put it that way, has been this far
out on the tree limb. Nobody on that roster. The
only one is really Carson Beck. He's been there with Georgia.
That's why I think he's a strength in this game
for them. It's the biggest point spread in the playoffs,
and it's the game that actually intrigues me the most
because if you if you start seeing the game get

(01:05:52):
bogged down, it just spreads out the window. The two
best defenses that I watched Ohio State play this year
were probably Texas and Indiana, and they scored fourteen and ten.
Michigan defense, Yeah, but they took care of Michigan pretty handily.
We don't say it like that, but what if it's
that kind of game? But really, what if Miami needs

(01:06:15):
seventeen points to win? I don't think it'll be that
kind of game. For the record, like, I think Ohio
State will probably learn from their mistakes in terms of
approach against Indiana, and if they go down, they're going
to go down swinging with those wide receivers. And that's
why I think Ohio State will win because I think
they'll get plenty enough offensive juice here to where they
don't condense the game and insert so much variance into

(01:06:39):
the equation they don't let Miami take over. Also, Ohio
State is not backing down physically from anyone, so it's
not like I think Miami's going to overwhelm them with physicality.
So wouldn't shock me if Miami won. Will take Miami
in the points one possession game, ish, I will take
Ohio State to win, though, which I think a lot
of people are going to do as a cop out

(01:06:59):
in this game.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
By the way, take Miami with the points. Yeah, I
think Ohio State's gonna blow them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
I think Ohow State's gonna beat my three touchdown run
it up big, yeah, big Compton big.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
What's the thinking?

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
So my thinking is, I think you're right with Miami.
I think this game is gonna come down to Carson
back like Miami's gonna Mark Fletcher is gonna have to
have a big game. But dude, I honestly believe that
they're gonna have success running the football against Ohwa State,
Like this is one of the best Ohio State defenses
that they've had. They're giving up like, what eight eight
points a game.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
They haven't given up more than sixteen points all year.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
Yeah, they're giving up yeah, like eight point the average,
giving up like eight points a game. And then I
think about offensively, what happened to Ohio State in Indiana
going against Miami, who, by the way, their defensive line
then get after your ass their secondary. I loved watching
them fly around to the football against A and M.
They got Keyante Scott back from last from his injury.
They had him back in the and M game, so

(01:07:50):
he's getting his feet wet. The secondary's opportunistic. I do
love Ohio State this challenge going up against Miami's defense,
but I think Ohio State giving up five sacks to
Indiana is one of those things to where it's like
them losing to Michigan last year. I feel like it's
kind of the best thing to happen to them in
the Big Ten Championship, right before they get into into

(01:08:11):
the College World Playoffs, because the offensive line is going
to be challenged. They get to live in that watching
the tape, seeing the five sacks, get coached that hard,
and then coach Ryan Day calling the plays. I think
those are the two X factors for me. Is Ohio
State giving up five sacks Indiana, which is the right
thing to happen to them in that game. And then
also Ryan Dave calling plays offensively because we will not

(01:08:34):
have seen the wrinkles that he's going to put in
the offensive strategy against Miami until the game is played,
which I do think I think gives them an edge
with the heartline going to the USF and everything else.
So those are my two factors.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
I like everything you just said. That's a big reason
why him to get a house stays well as Brian Hartline.
He with Ohio State right now. I thought I saw
a clip of that. He's still in the building. But
he's not going to be play no.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
I know that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
You know he's a.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Great wide receivers coach. He knows the offense. It's a
big asset for them to have. I agree with everything
you said. I just only think the X factor from
Miami is the defensive one. If they have the ability
to shrink the game down, then you don't have to
worry about Carson Beck possibly throwing multiple interceptions. You can
just run the ball, dink and dunk like kind of
chop away. They did a text A and M, but
that only happens if Reuben Bainn and company can get

(01:09:20):
after it. But because of the Indiana game and them
taking five sacks then waking up to a challenge taking place,
Ryan Day with his play calling, you know, respect, ma'am
very creative in his play calling. He's going to have
mismatches everywhere. He's going to motion into mismatches. And that's
why I believe Julian saying card del Tay and Jeremiah
Smith are going to have massive days.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Do you think they'll be aggressive wire to wire offensively?
I do, so let me paint you a scenario. I
think that's the approach they're going to go in the
game with if they're aggressive early, like everyone thinks aggressive
play calling, and they never assume the risk with aggressive
play calling, like that's the benefit of being a fan.
You just think, oh, what what could happen? Whereas coaches
have to think about what could happen on the other side.

(01:10:00):
What if they're aggressive and they turn the ball over
first drive and they know, hey, we got a good defense,
we got a good ground game. We could revert to
just grinding this thing out. Do you think they go
back into the comfort zone of doing that or do
you think they still push the pedal down even if
things go sideways open and drive.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Right they look at the Michigan game, That's what I
was just going to say, Like, you have a perfect
example of that. The first drive, the first throw of
the game, they run, Jeremia Smith runs a little crow route,
gets picked off, and they still hold them to three true.
And then they come back and this put their their
foot even more on the pedal pressent even harder, and
that is I think as much pressure was in that
Michigan Ohio State game because of the last four years,

(01:10:40):
and then for just not go back to hey, let's
you know, take a little off saying let's run the
ball a little bit. They were just as aggressive after
that first play the rest of the game. And I
think if they get in that position in the first
couple of drives, nothing changes for them. In defense, bro
and Julian Sane has done such a great job of
taking care of the football. Well, he's also throwing routes
on air, which is you know, yeah too Alien. It's

(01:11:01):
not his fault because they have so much separation, but
he's done an amazing job of like taking care of
the ball and seeing coverages.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Not getting you know this new say is still a
stud stud Yeah, starting quarterback for Ohio State. Young guy.
He has thrown to aliens right, and we get to
talk again. We get to talk about all the offense
in the world with every game a quarterback, play, run game,
everything else. Who which team has wide receivers And it's
hard to always prop up and talk highly of a

(01:11:30):
defense in Ohio State has that defense? Yeah, so I
love Ohio State and it goes back to it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
Every time we've breaking down Ohio State's games throughout the
year on this show, it's been Matt Patricia and teams
have to get into a position of we have to
see what Matt Patricia is going to give us before
we can truly have our own game.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Yeah, it terrifies me. They interviewed him yesterday at media
days for the Cotton Bowl and he laughed during the
answer as he said, we'll probably show some things we
haven't seen this year. We'll just have to get to
the game to find out what that is is. I'm
not Carson Beck, but if I were, that would keep
me up about fifteen minutes longer tonight than I was
gonna stay up.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
I mean, the Keys are stopped to run and take
away Tony. That's true, that's the take away Tony and
then whatever he has creatively going on patriciaan that defense.
I think that's where again the game is going to
come into the lap of Carson Beck and Kenney show
up in the big moment or come back from behind
against Oho State force mkick three.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
If they ever get the opportunity to.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
I think Elijah Loften tight end for Miami if they
were to win, has to have like a sneaky strong
stat line game here. Yeah, because somebody outside of Malachi
Tony has to step up. I mean, the reason Ohio
State's so good is because no one's really gonna shut
Jeremiah Smith down. But theoretically, if you did, they always
have two or three other ones they could shoulder the
load of a game Miami. I'm not gonna say they

(01:12:46):
don't have that. They haven't had that on paper this year.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
One last thing about the kicker. You were on the field,
you understood the win. I was up in the rafters.
I felt the wind as well.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
Not so much though.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Everyone's to look at how many kicks the the kick
or missed in the text C A and M game
and we're gonna go.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
They're gonna go in the same thought process as.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
You're in a dome. There's no win nothing. But if
he misses that first kick, run him right back out there, buddy.
The mental fortitude won't it'll be bad.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
I'm not saying it'll be good.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
But if he misses that first or second kick, if
they are given the opportunity or given the opportunity to
make it into the red zone, because I think Ohio
State has that ability to keep you on your side
of fifty for fifty minutes of that game.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
They have that type of potential.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
If you have him kick in the first quarter and
he misses this nine and a half should be a
lot bigger.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
You said the most points that Ohio State has given
up this year sixteen, right. You know what the Miami
total point over under just team points here is on
this game forty no, no, no, Miami team total just
Miami fourteen and a half. It's fifteen and a half.

(01:14:00):
Where you're going under on that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Yeah, I think I.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
May go over on it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
And that means offensive showing.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
That means it means Ohio State winning this thing. Twenty
four to seventeen gets me a win, It gets me
a Miami cover, It gets an Ohio State outright win.
I mean, twenty four to seventeen seems like a plausible
route for this game to go.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
I don't like the way that goes. Somethink it Ohio
State last night.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
And a half. Just let me let me ask this. Also,
the winner of this game goes to the Fiesta Bowl
to face the winner of Georgia versus Old Miss. What
do you think the odds are we get Miami Old
Miss in court in this of my finals. It seems
so remote that it's the kind of thing that you
dismissed to the point where you say, man, watch that happen.

(01:14:49):
Watch that end up be in the way this goes.
And then on the other one, which would be the
main event. You know, if Dan landing in Oregon do
come out on top and I'm wrong, Rose Bowl, you
do know what that gives us in the right right
down the road in Atlanta, we get Son versus Father.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Dan Lanning versus Big Netty. That's what we need.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Those chances of that Old Miss game happening low, but
not low, but the same as me getting three Fantasy
championships in a row.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
I gave you the numbers earlier. If Miami takes down Ahast,
clearly right now they're the favorite to win the national title.
But if Miami takes down.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
It's wide open.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
It's wide open.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Now, let me let me throw one more thing at you.
What would happen? Well, let me let me back up.
The Big Ten this year is viewed universally as the
best conference at the top right, which I agree with
so universally, I'm saying pretty universally, Like I mean, there
may be a guy in Tuoplo in Mississippi just machete

(01:15:55):
across the chest. SEC all your entire live show, all
the fans of your life shots, they hard. I think
they would disagree that the Big ten at the top
as the best. You screamed at some of the fans, Well,
they were being nasty, they were, And sometimes you have
to raise it. You have to elevate the voice a
little bit because so many people want to talk over
each other. You just got to get that high pitch.
So I was just getting financial advice. You had all
kinds of obscenities year.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
I think that was incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
So the think about this all right, So there's always
like a possibility that you've just misread the room all year.
The possibility is eliminated when you have a ton of
cross pollination, Like you have a ton of out of
conference versus out of conference. So in the SEC and
the ACC, we've got a ton of examples of out
of conference play to where you felt like you got
a pretty good read on the SEC and the ACC

(01:16:41):
Big ten and Big twelve. There's not a lot of that,
but the Big Ten specifically, the best out of conference
win for the Big Ten this year was Ohio State
over Texas that's in Week one, fourteen to ten in Columbus.
The next best out of conference when they had I think,
was Illinois overdue. So you're looking at what you're seeing
and you think your eyes are to you the truth.
I'm admitting I think this too. I think Ohio State

(01:17:04):
and Oregon in Indiana at various points this year, maybe
even now, may have been better than anything the SEC
had to offer. There is always the possibility that you
were wrong, because there was a very incestuous, sort of
silo based stat profile. And the way you would know
you're wrong is early on, if Miami's doing something to
Ohio State you didn't think would happen. Maybe even they win,

(01:17:25):
but if it's just a close game. Then you turn
on the Orange Bowl the next morning and Texas Tech's
up thirteen to nothing. Then you turn on the Rose
Bowl and Alabama upsets Indiana, and over the span of
less than twenty four hours, your entire worldview of what
the Big Ten was this year could crash in on you.
So that's what I'm always careful of because we don't
have enough out of conference games in college football. I
wish we have more of them, so you still get

(01:17:46):
to the end of the road sometimes and you just
have to think, you know about these conferences. That's a
good point, you know what I mean? William, Oh, yeah,
I know what you mean.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
He's sizing it up. He sizing he's also in an article.
We are, but he's got some sec bias. We're both
big ten guys.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
What did you score? What did you score?

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Plus twenty something?

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
What was I I wasn't twenty some of them some
of the me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
You were right next to each other.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
Someone, what is what is this article?

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
There was a there's an article I believe it was
from Awful Announcing and they basically tear They basically ranked
all the bias in perceived bias perceived bias in college media.
Higher numbers worse or better. Higher numbers are, higher numbers
are worse. Like they had them. They had like an
unbiased list that was like from what zero to five

(01:18:40):
or something like that, like say they have a point
biased or something or no bias at all.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
These are fine bombs. Number one, I think, wasn't he
Number one? Like no, no, no, no, with most bias
like plus ninety percent SEC bias.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
Right, and you guys are both twenty What was I?
You were like thirty seven. I'll take that number. Big ten,
You're like thirty seven, big ten. I think I was
like twenty, mid twenties or so. It was something like that,
big ten, And then Peyton's I was twenty nine?

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Was I?

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
Taylor?

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
You were thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
Thirty seven? And he was pro big ten, pro, big
ten pro sec.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
That's a great balance to the show.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
And there was no negative, like negative G five. They
didn't even do that, right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Different hates G five. I'm five up for these games.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
It's gonna be a big weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
Is this separation is there's two games.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
I took a total in the quarterfinals. I don't even
know what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
I know what I'm doing as soon as the show's over,
he's got over the rushing yards.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Yeah, and he's got Miami to cover against as State, sure,
and he's snuck in some props there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
I snuck in some good you saw it coming from
them all away though. We're sitting there over on the
other side and he's like, you do props? Yeah, you
can if you want, I want.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
To see what this is on before we're going to
rushing yards is now dropping one fort Ooh so.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
You need a you need to push pay Joey McGwire.
They're saying yeah, they're saying, we're fade and pay. Interesting.
I like that, all right. Good luck to everybody. We
will see you guys next week. Good luck to you both.
Good luck to both. Happy New Year, Happy New Year, God.

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