Mike Vrabel On Leaving Titans, Drake Maye's Rookie Journey + Mack Hollins Goes Barefoot | Bussin' - Bussin' With The Boys

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good afternoon, ladies, gentlemen. This is episode three hundred and
forty one, A bus with the Boys. We are officially
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and Mike Rabel himself. He comes back on what is
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Football season?

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Football season? A lot of the a lot of the
hardos want to argue that it's already here. Will it's
already happened, Charles Jus.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
I understand that enthusiasm. I do because I think this
is a I think this is a great time to
start prepping your significant others, your wives for what is
to come right right right you get to where it's preseason.
Everybody's excited. I mean I I flip back and forth
on the preseason game, the Hall of Fame game. But
it's not like I'm sitting there watching it. You see it,

(04:14):
You see the excitement. You scroll the apps a little
bit and see everybody else's excitement because we worked really
hard to get here. But this is the opportunity where
you start the warm up, before the workout.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
The massage. It was intercept that real quick. You're you
tune on the game. We've been in the situation. We've
been in a preseason game, and you know those guys
don't want to be there. If you see yes no,
you see yes, yes, and yes, the cats who are
playing like you know, the first round. The cats that
are not are not working for a job to have
their job. They're sitting there going, these motherfuckers got us

(04:46):
in the Hall of Fame game. We gotta do an
extra one of these things. And also there's a bunch
of hungry Roberts Ballanes well confidence with around there, going
I'm gonna absolutely ruin someone's fucking life this afternoon, and
that's to get my game to come true. Be somebody's
nightmare in Ohio.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
It's like Charleo. We were upstairs changing Scottie row was
up there jumping off the furniture, and I was like,
Hall of Fame game, tonight, Football's back. There's a game
that it's July out it is July, and it's just
you start playing the seed. You're like, oh, football's all night.
We got to have it on. It wasn't really on,
but you start the domino effect and start getting them

(05:25):
warmed up to what this schedule is going to be. Like, Yeah,
preseason games are sporadic.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
My two kids walked into the main cave the other
day and I'm sitting there and they go, Daddy, what
you watching? I was like, I'm just watching them with something.
They go, oh good. We were hoping it wasn't football,
and I said, could you mention that because we're not
too far away kids, and we will be watching him
like no, Dad, please don't. They called themselves a punishment,
got them back in line. Now we're getting ready for football.

(05:50):
So put your nose in the corner right now. Hall
of Fame game. Thank you for let me punish my
children so I can get ready for the football season. Yeah,
I'm excited.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
Let me ask you this, tell me would you potentially
be excited to be the Hall of Fame game? The
first game being in camp?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Great question? Never had the op I don't hate it now.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
I think both teams they probably had to report early
for camp.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
I think so.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
I think that's usually that would suck. But if you haven't,
but usually.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
The report early happens with a new coach, and neither
one of those teams have new coaches. We're talking with
the lines and the charges for those of you who
did not, who live under a rock and don't know
football's back.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Yeah, yeah, because I'm sitting here thinking it could be
nice if you have a preseason game that early out
of the game because camp gets a little cut, a
little bit shorter. Yeah, not like shorter, but you know
what I'm saying. Yeah, the scheduling around it. Yeah, the
types of practice.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
The day you have to travel. Yeah, you have to
get out there. And a lot of guys, the guys
who are kind of solidified that they're going to have
their position for that year. This isn't that's like an
off day. That's like a Okay, hey, we want you
to play ten snaps this game. You stressed out, you
warm up, but you're morally joking around. You're thinking, I
just gotta I gotta operate for ten snaps. Show that
I'm you know, putting the work in blah blah blah,

(07:03):
kind of get my you know, get a little WD
forty in these joints of mind and get moving. But
then it seeds. It's jokes. It's camaraderie after that, that's
the vibe. That's what you want.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
How thankful are you that you were not out in
this heat a training cam can I be honest?

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Be honest, I missing right now and these last like
four or five days seeing how hot it was and
being like, yeah, waking up in the morning and not
being feeling obligated to be somewhere immediately at six am
is a nice bonus. But there is not a better
feeling than getting done with a two and a half

(07:39):
hour practice. A couple guys are cramping in the corner.
You're drenched in sweat, you're taking off your stuff. You
take your socks and you squeegee them and sweat just
drained off.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah, you get a little with because you like your
own scent, not somebody's else's.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
And you sit there and somebody makes the remark, boys,
this is the farthest will be away from the next practice,
And there's a piece of you that goes from I
have been in hell to holy shitty's right. Then the
giggles start to happen. People get on their phones. Boys
in the locker room start jabbing each other. You might
stumble up across a friend who just came from the
Redskins and you have accountabill of buddy, and you're like,

(08:15):
let's do the extra mile, let's get ready for tomorrow
with the sauna, with this cold top yea. And that
to me is fucking awesome. It's the it's embracing the
suck together and it's like, yeah, like I sit here now,
I'm on a bus. Our air conditioning is working. That's new,
but it's like and it's great, Like we have a
great life. Our life is amazing. But I trade this

(08:36):
shit in right now to get out there for a
couple more stacks.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
I don't know if I share that same sentiment.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Anybody trade there's a out of meeting there.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
I miss everything you just said, but I miss it
with my younger body.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, like knowing where I'm at.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
Now, it's like I touched that heat outside gets sticky
right away, Like there's a little bit of softness that's
came with this comfort, no doubt to where it's like
I would not trade what's going on right now to
get back out there in the training camp. You know,
your boy, I will you know I'm kind of an
expert finesse in training camp.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, you're an expert finessing a lot of things. I'll
say this, dude, when you're when you go to camp
and you wake up in the morning, like you wake up,
the alarm goes off and there's your anxiety. Immediately you
go into the meetings, you get like pre taped. If
you do tape, You put your braces on if they're
making your wear braces. You got the pants on, you
got your bottoms fully done, you got your your shoulder pads,

(09:31):
the jersey on. You go in the meeting. Coach goes over, Hey,
this is what's gonna happen today. We're doing nine on
seven period. We got one on ones and this time
we're gonna individual and individual. They were gonna do those things.
At this point, your heart rate is truly skyrocking.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Because you're also like, I got to get my pre
my pre practice route. Hit this body, and a.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Lot of coaches like to hit them fucking jaw sets.
You're like, I need that extra five, Especially when you're
in years seven and above, You're like, I need that
extra five. Let me loosen in the lather a little
bit before I get out there. But a lot of
your mind goes to for me, it was first team period, Okay,
I got to operate there, and then those one on
ones where it's just you and another guy in front
of you, and you know it's tailored towards the defense.

(10:09):
They're pinning their ears back, the cadence doesn't really anything,
and you're like, if I can succeed in this category.
In this category to day, everything else can go fuck off.
That's where the anxiety hits. Now, go back to what
we're saying before of like after practice, if you're able
to check those couple of boxes where you're like, I
got better today because I focus on these things, and
I saw myself improved winning and losing the reps whatever,

(10:31):
but like my hands were better, my set was better,
my feet were better. I got out of my stands
a little bit faster. Whatever you were trying to work on,
you hit those, man, that's like a rest easy moment,
and you're like, Okay, tomorrow, we're gonna watch this film.
In your mind, you've already watched film fifty times, you
had every bad snap you've had, and you're like, I'm
gonna work on these three things tomorrow. And then you
go to a meeting room they tell you the other

(10:51):
things you already know, and you're like, tomorrow, I'm gonna
knock that shit out of the park. And then you
go to bed and buddy, you don't sleep better. Then
after a hord day of camp, yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
And knowing that you get to go into uh you
know your your position meetings and Uh, what am I
trying to say right now? Defense offense, defensive offense, team
not team meeting offensive, defensive, defensive defensive meetings.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
And there's had a hard time, he's aid defense offense.
All you have to do is flip those two weeks
for him, got the.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Breaking what's going on there? And you get to kind
of cit easy, knowing like oh, plays about to come up.
You know, get a little compliment right right, like this
one was good, versus the anxiety of like fuck I
fuck this one?

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, vice versa. Yeah, that's the opposite because when you
do have a really bad play, let's say I the.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Coach is gonna how is coach going to coach? This
is going to go off?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Because if you have a bad player, early my brain
would go to you got to finish extra hard today.
So when coach reams your ass, there's a couple clips
when maybe we have a big explosive play that you
also see seventy seven run down the field quite a bit. Yeah,
and you can you can look at that and be like,
that's the effort we need. It's all you need to
get back on track. Football players are words of affirmation. Guys.
You hate to admit it. But when they walk into

(11:57):
that team meeting room, you're looking for the words of affora,
you're looking for a pat on the ass, you're looking
for a good job, and you're dreading the fact that
you might get up. What the fuck are we doing here?
The age old we're paying you how much to do this?
That's always the gut wrenching situation.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, when yeah, I'm going back to the
time where you got spun around by JPP.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yep, what you loved?

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah, I mimicked that for Vaybel at the Rookie Show.
That was tough.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
And also I will say this about JPP. Hell of
a move, hell of a move with eight fingers. I
will say like.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
He was fun Taylor round in practice. Buddy.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
He hit me with an inside move and I like
was like, oh, he's going inside. And I went hard
inside and then he went back outside and I literally
did a whirling dervish, turned around and he was at
the quarterback. Hits the bag, sorry, hits the bag and
goes And I did that with one hand. I thought, fuck,
he got my ass because I was thinking to myself,
I'm gonna body him, and now I'm gonna say, maybe

(12:56):
if you had two hands to go a lot easier
for you. I had a little something in my arsenal
up the top and then all of a sudden didn't
go the way I wanted. But I will say we
played Tampa the next year. I remembered that play and
I watched that play over and over again. He didn't
get my ass in the game. So it's called learning.
That's called learning. Someone who's also learned. A man from

(13:18):
Ohio was in the rap game for a long time.
Something happened between him and M and M all of
a sudden changes the genres and revitalizes punk pop, and
now he is the official twenty twenty five c ifb Anthem.
Let's even n a plus for MGK single handedly bringing
back the greatest genre of the two thousands, the greatest.

(13:40):
I think that's not arguable, right, what's you doing now?
All right?

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Jack? Well?

Speaker 6 (13:48):
Sorry, I don't know that crazy.

Speaker 7 (13:50):
I don't know that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Say it again. Some people know what you said. I said,
touching again, touching kids. Oh my god, dude, I'm yeah.

Speaker 7 (14:01):
I think he's doing, like justice, maybe single handedly bringing
back pop punk.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
That's a crazy statement, MGK. He and Travis Barker brought
back that genre. There were people doing that, but they
were the faces and the voices that brought that genre back.
Now you got Black one two out there killing it.
You got five black guys doing a pop punk music

(14:26):
and they rip, shout out paradox, They rip, and they
I've seen them do a live show, like a little
clip of them, and they make jokes. They reference the
fact that they're black.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
With they make jokes, they make jokes.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
About them being black when any too. I love it.

Speaker 8 (14:43):
But you're saying, MGK, the white man is bringing it back.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, okay, I am JP. Black guys can get mad
about Elvis Presley about you know, they do cool ship
that we take the cool shit. It's no long cool shit,
so they have to make new cool ship and then
we know we try do that cool shit. White guys
have been pretty steady on the pop punk. We've been
pretty steady. We've been right. That's that's that's our fastball, true,

(15:09):
that's our fastball. And MGK, it started a putter and
MGK brought it back. Don't break up, Jimmy Hendricks.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Jimmy Hendricks on the screen, don't.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Play up, don't do that that's the day. That's rock.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
That was gonna say. Song of the season is MGK
Song of the Season, MGK college football.

Speaker 8 (15:30):
Can we played ten seconds of it?

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Play ten seconds of it?

Speaker 4 (15:33):
I don't know if we're allowed to.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
You know, Will hasn't heard it.

Speaker 8 (15:35):
We can't play under I.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Saw the little theme, yeah, I saw the little.

Speaker 7 (15:38):
Reel touch for the guys in the back who can
not hear. I know Taylor's opinion on the song is
a song good Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
With the reel that it's doing, like the little high video,
it just gets you excited about college football coming back.
It's very good energy. It's not like a some motivating song,
but it's like a good, feel good let's get excited.
Let's get excited for college game Day. I'm back on
Saturday's big noon kickoff, just getting in the spirit of
college football.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
What do you think it has been the best college
football anthem that they that there's.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Been work, Come in to your city.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
That's the college game.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Play get talls and saying you what comes for some?

Speaker 3 (16:16):
That's the college game.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
We need, we need to.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Know, we would need to see you pull up a few.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
That I remember one was central last centuries was by
fall that boy walk on water by thirty seconds to Mars.
Those two, those two I remember. I can't think of
the others because they've been doing it for like Damn
Near ten years.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Now, Damn Damn near, Damn Near. Speaking of Damn Near,
Damn near.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Football season is what it is.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
The Busting Live Show.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
September nineteenth, which is also will.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Be coming to link In, Nebraska September nineteenth. Tickets are
on sale right now at Rococotheater dot Tickets are live
and on sale, go buy them up. The boys will
be there, special guests, drinks, food, the whole kit and kaboodle.
We will be there getting ready to go to war
on Saturday, Michigan versus Nebraska Birthday weekend Birthday weekend. But
those tickets are on sales, So if you're watching you

(17:15):
want to go to the live show on September nineteenth.
That is at Rococotheater dot com. That is where you
can get the tickets.

Speaker 9 (17:21):
Also, go to BWTV dot com and it will take
you over to the record.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
There you go. If you don't want to try to
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you want to simplify it down in a four easy
letters bwtv dot com. Our live show banner is right there.
You click on that link, it'll take you right to it.

Speaker 8 (17:37):
Bang and comment. If you want Inside the Bus to
open the live show.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
I did see like that. I said that. I like that.

Speaker 8 (17:44):
Just give us like ten minutes, man, yeah, just ten,
maybe twelve. We'll play back in there too.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
You guys want to open?

Speaker 8 (17:51):
Yeah, I think it'd be fun.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah. Inside the Bus opens, Yeah, I think that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
That'd be great.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
It's the boys, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (17:57):
But we secretly have Jared walkout first and then no
one follows them, so it's just Jared.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
That would be elite. That would be elite.

Speaker 8 (18:03):
We can think, think of something.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
You know, he's listening to this. Somebody's gonna send it to.

Speaker 8 (18:06):
Him, and no way he listens to the intro.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
He does if we talk about him.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
He got a guy.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
He's got a guy that shoots him. What says a guy?

Speaker 7 (18:14):
Man?

Speaker 1 (18:16):
He probably does. Yeah, the live show is going to
be incredible. That weekend will be insane. It'll be a
lot of fun. It'll also be very tight, very a
lot of tightness going on. Me versus y'all, me versus
the bus, Taylor, what means you have Matt Malone with you,
Taylor versus the bus.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Taylor and Nebraska versus Michigan.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, the most Taylor verse the bus in off this bus.
It is the bus. I'm sitting in right now. It's
Taylor versus the bus. I understand what you're trying to do.
And at the end of the day, it is Michigan
versus Nebraska. I can't put the wing helmet on, although
I wish I absolutely could, just to take a couple
more heads.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah, it's my wife.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
And that's also the theme song from Good About the Ugly.
If you guys are wondering, Yeah, it's gonna be a
hell of a day. I literally am so excited for that.
I'm so excited. And then as soon as that's over, dude,
it's spooket.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Ober exactly right there, It's Spook.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Spooketober.

Speaker 10 (19:15):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Right now, we're what fifty eight days away If you're
listening to this episode on Tuesday, we're shooting this on Friday.
So at sixty one days, I'm trying to carry the
one a little bit. Is it fifty eight fifty seven
days right now? Well, I looked it up right before
we started the show. Show and it's not that impressive.
I will say this about Spootober. It's an amazing time.
It's incredible. I got bad luck during Spootober. Is anything

(19:36):
my right knees got bad luck during Spootober twenty twenty.
What happened? Your boy tears it against Houston Texans. Have
to get surger. You have to be in Principula, Florida
for a knee all right, twenty twenty two, first week
of Spootober. I have to get my knee fixed from
the first surgery. Now fast forward to twenty twenty five.
Your boy has trial for his knee starting on Spootober twentieth.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Oh, I have two options.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I have two options. I cut my right leg off
and just say, hey, you're not running my Spootober. Oh.
I'm going to make the conscious decision when I'm in Pittscola, Florida,
when this trial is going down. We still make time
for the spook We still get after it because the
end of the day, you are what you do on
a daily basis. And if I want to truly embrace Spootober,
I need to be Spootober this year. I need to

(20:25):
be it Yeah, are we going to hit a hunt
house this year?

Speaker 11 (20:31):
We got to hit a big movie.

Speaker 10 (20:32):
I feel like there's some good scary movies coming.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
There's coming out in September.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yes, yeah, I think it's the final iteration.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Also, twenty eight years Later is coming out? Is it
this year? I might have to wait to watch that
Spootober one because I want to kind of see twenty
eight days, weeks and then finally years because that I heard.
I'm not a big ratings guy Rotten Tomatoes guy, but
I love the fact that it has one hundred percent.

Speaker 7 (20:59):
I opened up thing honestly. But I have seen some
things on Twitter. Apparently some of the zombies in this
movie are hung no ship, like like McGregor, yeah, discussing. Yeah,
so I'm excited to watch it?

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, Yeah, I didn't they give anybody an excitement to
watch it?

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Yeah. Weapons looks like a spooky one weapons awesome.

Speaker 8 (21:21):
It already debuted one hundred on Rotten Tomatoes.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
But what about the critics? The critics or not critics?
What about the audience.

Speaker 7 (21:28):
Score won't come out until it's actually hit box office,
but the critics scores one hundred, That is, to me
is my most anticipated movie of the year.

Speaker 8 (21:35):
I think I have such high expectations, then if it
lets me down, I'll.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
You'll cut off your right leg. You're a big You're
a big ratings guy. Are you talking about spooky movies?
You know, like if you get like a seventy five,
it is essentially like an ELI.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
If you're if you get a seventy five or seven
point five on IMDb with the audience in a scary
genre like you're cooking with gas?

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Got you?

Speaker 4 (21:58):
You're cooking gas?

Speaker 11 (21:59):
Alright?

Speaker 1 (21:59):
I like the I don't like to be pressed by
other opinions when it comes to my spooky viewing pleasures,
So I get worried about the ratings.

Speaker 7 (22:06):
On the note of reviews, Uh, the New Naked Gun movie?

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Did you hit record? Hit recording?

Speaker 7 (22:15):
Okay, zombies are the new Naked The New Naked Gun, though,
had one hundred percent on Rotten Tomatoes with Liam Neeson.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Really yeah, I don't think I've even seen.

Speaker 7 (22:23):
The original Naked Gun, so I don't know if there's
many people listening being like that's Cardinal Sin, but I
want to go see that.

Speaker 8 (22:29):
I've heard really good things about it, so.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
I'm not as big. I'm not a big critics Rotten Tomato.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Oh yeah, no, no Audio is a man of the
people because people think.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Yeah, I'm somebody who's very easily entertained. So I pretty
much enjoy damn near every movie. But I'd just like
to know where where it sits at, to know if
I should be like if this is going to be
a banger, or if it's rated lowly and I'm watching it,
if it's ready lowly with the audience and I'm watching it,
It's like I can in my mind, on my eye,
can see how they got there.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Transfers, movies aren't rated that high on IMDb in their
gas exactly.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
That's what I'm saying. I enjoyed pretty much any movie
I'm watching.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
It takes a lot to make it go of that movie.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
So yeah, I just like knowing, like, Okay, I can
see how they I can see how they got to that.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
You know a movie I saw recently, No Country for
Old Men, Oh wow, I actually recently just watched it
for the first time. There's like twenty minutes left in
the movie. I had to stop and to put my
kids to sleep, and I'm I think I'm already sending
out text like have you seen this movie. This movie
is absolutely incredible. I hated the ending of that movie,
The Cow Gun. Yes, I hated the end of that movie.

(23:37):
Did you I mean, obviously you guys are Your eyes
got real big when I say I watched it the
first times, you like, Yeah, one of the best villains ever.
I think the writing of Woody Harrell said. All the
guys are awesome. They all do an amazing job in
that movie. I didn't like the way the movie ended.
Did you guys feel that same way? Or you guys
were totally fine?

Speaker 3 (23:55):
People like psychiatrists have done, uh, like studies and stuff
on that movie.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Movie?

Speaker 3 (24:00):
And who's the guy who's the actor's name, Javr bar Damn?

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, who plays a villain.

Speaker 12 (24:05):
His character is.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
The closest thing there's ever been to like a psychopath
in a movie.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, I've seen that same stuff. I'm saying. I love
the characters, I love the storyline, I love the movie.
But the ending, I was like, I feel like it
does a disservice.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
I forget it.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (24:22):
One of the other things it does that piss a
lot of people off is it killed the protagonists off screen,
which is crazy. Yeah, I'd forgotten about that dude.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yes, that pissed me off too.

Speaker 13 (24:32):
I was like all the and sorry spoilers, but yeah,
it's like Josh Brolins. All of a sudden, it's like, yeah,
we found this dead body in this motel room.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Paso, Texas. It's like, yo, can we like this guy's
been hunting that guy for how long?

Speaker 14 (24:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:46):
And he just gets murked and we're like, damn, I'm
making myself. That's fucking wild.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I literally paused it like right before that to put
my children down. I'm thinking, I cannot wait to finish
this movie. And then that happens and I'm like, that's
a little fucking weird. And then the scene where he
sees the girl and she's like I know you're here,
blah blah blah, and then he walks out the door.
I like that part where it's like, it's the wife. Correct,
it's the wife, Yes she was. I knew you'd be

(25:11):
here eventually that I think that what's the villain's name again,
Javier Bardaan Bardam, Javier Bardem. I thought he I loved them,
but then when he leaves, I mean, we're already giving spoilers.
And the car accident happens. He's like sticking out of
his arm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The kids give him the mister, mister,

(25:33):
are you okay? And he's like, give me your shirt
and he like takes the shirt and he puts it,
wraps around and walks off. And then it goes to
the sheriff given like a five minute monologue about a
dream he had that doesn't make any sense to me.
And then and then the movie's over. Mm hmm, make
it makes sense?

Speaker 4 (25:50):
Sure, gol it, gol it.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
That's one of probably the best scenes in the movie.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
Call it What are we calling? Where are we playing for?

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah? And then just gets murged no he lives.

Speaker 13 (26:05):
Oh he does live, but the cop doesn't.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
It's a great movie. Terrible ending that got me into.

Speaker 10 (26:13):
Well.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Will was talking about how it's easy, it's easy for
him to watch a movie and not be upset by.

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Speaker 4 (27:26):
Talk about some rage bait potentially out there right now,
Terry McLaurin asking for a trade. That's a trade.

Speaker 10 (27:32):
Titans title Parsons too, Yeah, Michael Parsons too.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
That's I was surprised with Terry McLaurin when I thought
he was happy out there. Maybe I think it's all
coming down to contract stuff. Maybe he's ustering, but to me,
it's like, we gotta make him.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Michael Parsons made sense because you see Miles Garrett, Max Crosby,
a handful of other guys signed the largest NFL contract,
non quarterback NFL contract in history, over.

Speaker 14 (27:57):
And over and over again.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
It kind of just keeps on going, and here's send
him Michael Parsons. He's with them in that same reason
about who's the best pass rushers right now? Michael Parsons.
His name's always brought up, and you got.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Jared Jones out there in the pressers talking about do
what Michael? What did he call Michael one of.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
His press conferences. I could have been his accent or
he could have just called them Michael, but he was like, yeah,
Michael Parsons.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
He's talking about like paying guys. He took like a
subtle shot at deck at Dak Prescott. Maybe Micah too.
He talks about paying guys. And you know, we only
had him for X amount of games last year. But
I could see Michael wanting to get out of that,
get out of Dallas. He took what right, right, So
I could see him wanting to get out of Dallas.

(28:43):
Terry scary. Terry just surprises me. Just I didn't know
it was. It got to a spot to where he's
publicly requesting requesting a trade.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
That's also a wild time to be requesting a trade
after getting your franchise quarterback and like going to the
NFC Championship game.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
And then actually your team actually getting better on paper
as well.

Speaker 10 (29:02):
Debo, maybe he's gonna get less balls, maybe he's worried
about that.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
I think they're for security. I'm going to just give
them the ball and be like, hey go and he
gets after it. Terry's doing to take the top off
and just absolutely push all the backfield away from everything
so then you can take it down to Debo. But
I think I think Terry is just looking for some
financial security and he's not getting what he wants. But buddy,
you have an opportunity to make something massive happen in Washington,

(29:29):
and everything you've said about the Washington media, the fan base,
like they've been begging for this, begging for it.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
Their position will I think it's the Eagles in that division, Yeah,
all day long.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, they were I think the Giants step. I think
a Giants tak the step step this year, there's not
going to be I don't know if they're gonna be
a playoff team, but something about Scatabo and Dart, I
need them to be a like ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
Yes, I got scat Bo on the preseason the watch
list going to start though, I don't know, I think,
but I'm watching.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
I'm watching clips of Jackson, Dart and Scatterbo walk out together.
They're wearing opposite jerseys. They have nice little banter, and
it's like, I like these two to be the faces
of my franchise if I'm the Giants, I like this
to happen. I like Scatabo to run a free You.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
See some of the yeah aliens, right.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
I don't know, how do you think like that?

Speaker 4 (30:30):
That that dark scatter bow. They just got a couple
of guys out there. I really into.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
The Giants. A good starting running back and Tyrone Tracy too.
He was a rookie last year, like was a wide
receiver transfer or switch to running back. He's he's a
pretty good player too.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
They need just need a healthy offensive line, for sure.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
They need a lot of things. They did a lot
of things.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
They could like they'll improve, But I mean, who they who?
They gonna jump over the cow.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
They're not jumping They're gonna be fourth. But I think
they'll improve as a franchise. Will They'll They'll get done
with their season and be like, hey, obviously you know
what we want, but I think we're taking steps in
the right direction.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Would you take over and wins?

Speaker 1 (31:13):
What's that?

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Would you take over?

Speaker 1 (31:14):
It depends what it is. You can pull that up
for me right now. I'll say this about Russell Wilson
as well. I've talked to people that were at the
Broncos with him and they were kind of like, really
anti him. The way he came in, the way he acted,
his attitude, and towards the end of his stint there
you could see a little more humility, a little more
he can see where he went wrong. So if he
still is trending that way, that'd be great for Russell,

(31:36):
who's had all the experience, won super Bowls, has had
a great career to get a guy like Jackson Dart
and teach him a couple of things, because Jackson's got
that you got something about him, you know, he got
a little something about him.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
Yeah, it'd be interesting.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
What on the FanDuel Sportsbook analyzing wins pull up their schedule.
I'm gonna I'm gonna feel that one out a little bit.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
Five and a half wins.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
I'm gonna feel that.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
My gut says under. My gun says under.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Commander's L Cowboys, L, Chiefs, L Chargers, L Saints, dub Eagles,
L Broncos L Eagle. Yeah, we're going under. They're going under.
They got a schedule, they got a guy. So when
I think when they finished the season, they're gonna look
and be like, that was a tough schedule we're getting Yeah,

(32:37):
And I think you have a schedule like that with
some defenses that are on that schedule, there might be
a time whe're like, hey, let's go the rookie in
there and see what he can do a little bit.
If he shows a little bit of improvement, you can
have that Will Lewis vibe that the Titans had a
year ago where it's like we got something here, boys.
But yeah, let's go under on that five and a half.

Speaker 10 (32:54):
Yeah, men out there, you think Jackson Dart's showing up
five am every day?

Speaker 4 (32:59):
No, Like, okam Ward.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Cam Ward is saying and doing all the right things right.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Now his film. I'm excited to watch him. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (33:09):
The juicy ist cam ward video out there right now
is when he's going back and forth the Big Jeff.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
One that Callahan is talking about how he's he's talking
ship while Callen's called the play and then talk ship
and then still says the playout loud. That's a that's
a veteran ship right.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Well, he's doing what he's telling Jeff.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
No, no, Big Jeff is talking ship to cam Wore.
Cam Warden is talking ship back. While this interaction is happening,
Callahan is in the green dot giving him the play.
He finishes talking ship and said the things he wanted
to say to Jeff while also retaining the play. Goes
in the huddle, says the play and it's smooth. Yeah,
that is the type of ship that gets you juiced up.

(33:50):
And it's like he's a little bit disrespected on the Madden.
He comes in, he goes, good things come to those
who work. Matden the next day goes, I feel like
we funked up after he dropped that bar on us.
So they jump him up to seventy two, which.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
Is still give me e a again. I think mad
in them that I think they do a great job
of getting like trolling the world.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
I agree, I agree. It seems like Cam is one
of the least talked about first overall picks of all time.
As a Titans fan, that's where you want to sit
right now. You want no media, you want know nothing.
I don't think we have any primetime games this year?

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Do we? No? Zero zero zero, And you're actually where
you want.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
To be as a Titans fan. Wake up early, get
ready for your noon slate game, and just watch the
world slowly incrementally get better. So maybe next year got
one or two of them boys, But you want to
live in the shadows right now, Dan, you're strong in
the darkness.

Speaker 8 (34:41):
Week fourteen, we're undefeated.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Flexus if you're yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 (34:46):
It's fair and we will be undefeated.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
So go ahead and NFL.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Say, well, I'm not on the team anymore. I do
support and love the Titans a lot. I do support
and love the Titans quite a bit. It's just one
of those things that's like you want them to do well.
I feel like I do in my mind. I do
a better job of being unbiased when it comes the NFL,
because that's one of the most recent tuned. You can

(35:14):
kind of like sit in the locker room be like,
this is the team we have, and you know, like
what the expectation is kind of what you're ceiling is.
And I remember being in college being like, We're gonna
win the Baked champion I'm coming back from my senior
year because we're gonna win the Baked Championship. Fast forward
six and six buffal Wah Wings Bowl, Right, so you
just kind of live in a world of delusion. Kate
in my pool being like, we're Vanderbilt, We're gonna win

(35:34):
the national championship, and I'm like, I know you believe that,
but I know it's not also not true and it
will not happen. No disrespect to the Vanderbilt, but what it.

Speaker 8 (35:45):
Is there, but just one more thing on.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Campbell, just with the one liners.

Speaker 7 (35:50):
Today It's Friday, man. You know we don't catch a
lot of Friday true intros. But when it all shakes
out and the dust settles in about a decade.

Speaker 8 (36:00):
Is gonna go Warn Moon three, Steve McNair two, cam
Ward one, great greatest QBS and Titans free.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
I love the excitement, optimism and I and I.

Speaker 7 (36:15):
Very welcome get crushed Week one. He throws a pick,
you know, first drive.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
I love how Jack just said all that and said
my dreams could go down the tank in the first
game of the season.

Speaker 7 (36:25):
This is this is the first time I have felt
so optimistic about a player, like actually confident, like every
year Denver blindly optimistic.

Speaker 8 (36:34):
Yeah, I know that Mile High City bro.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yeah dude, we we played in September. We played week
one in Denver. Yes, that ship sucks to.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
Breathe only been in camp ten days.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, and easy ten days too. That back ten days
are the easiest ten days, the best in the league. Yeah,
oh bo Nicks taking that year two step Sean Payton.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
They'll for sure have growing pains. But as far as
like optimism for the player that Cam wore could be,
it is sick being on the ground level getting that.

Speaker 9 (37:12):
It seems like the team has good chemistry right now.
Like they're having fun. Yes, it's also exciting.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Yeah yeah, camp.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Ward and Big Jeff, Jeff Vin Ridley and the Cobs
with the boys do a little cannonball in the cold tub.
That's another thing.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
We Oh yeah, there's definitely things I miss, But I'm
saying like I'm thankful that I'm not out in the
I'm thankful I'm not doing it anymore. I left it,
I emptied the tank. I left no doubt. Every ounce
of my being is out there on the field. Yeah.
Here one eleven, we come with an empty cup.

Speaker 7 (37:50):
He's been interact He's been interacting with a ton of
our posts on socials.

Speaker 8 (37:54):
So get him on Jack, all right, Calvin, come on, man,
come on, dude.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
You used to play for this team, and I didn't
play when you host this punch. Yeah, but he knows
who you are.

Speaker 7 (38:06):
They got a statue of you in the parking lot
in that wheelchairs.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Some rulers flying around the Titans and bust. The boys
might be doing some stuff together this year.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Whispers, whippers, they're just whispers, whispers.

Speaker 9 (38:16):
Are you gonna like say we then, are you gonna
say like busting?

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah, we are gonna be gonna be out there. We
will be with Titan, the Titans getting after it.

Speaker 8 (38:24):
We are the Titans.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Yeah, we are to be.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
The Titans or now. Yeah, that's what we all know.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
It took a couple of years to get him. We
with Michigan, it'll take a couple of years.

Speaker 9 (38:36):
If the Titans were winning the Super Bowl would say
we too.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Yes, I don't disagree with any of the things you
guys are saying. I'm, for whatever reason, don't know. Probably
have to break it down, not when in the middle
of a podcast of why I'm not saying we. But
I have a harder time getting too we. Maybe it's fresh.
Maybe I did get cut a couple of years ago.
Maybe I'm in camp. I'm just talking about how I
miss it. I'm a little sad right now.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Who knows.

Speaker 10 (38:57):
Yeah, I think you applied for an extra roll as
a zombie in that movie and you.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Didn't get it, and you didn't get it. You know what,
I didn't get it too out there, so I looked
around the fun I ain't gonna get to cut in
this thing. Yeah, Jesus Christ, what's going on here with
these boys? Man? All block zombies?

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Man? Yeah, she talk about how excited we are to
go on our little tour. Yeah, let's at first.

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Speaker 4 (40:28):
Great ad read. So next week we'll be doing We
got a little four day trip planned and we will
be hitting. Yeah, we leave Sunday, come back Wednesday night,
jump around. We're gonna go to the New England Patriots.
See the Boycoach, Frames.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Braby Stretch, hass Fresh Stretch.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
I forgot about stretch.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Can't never forget it, can't forget about you, can't forget
about stretch.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Can't forget about Stretch. Then we jump to Philadelphia. We'll
be doing some interviews in Philly, and then we will
go up north, north of the Wall to Buffalo. Buffalo Bills,
Little Josh Allen Action and Billy Bean.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
I'll tell you now, I don't fuck with blue cheese.
I hate blue cheese. I mess with your franchise, I
mess with you guys. I do not I will not
touch your blue cheese.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Can I say something ahead?

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Yeah, I try it.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
I hate I'm going to try it because I'm going
to go out to Buffalo with an open mind on
this blue cheese. Maybe I'll hate it, but I'm saying
I'm going to go out there with an open mind.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
I will try it.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
My mind is not. Yeah, that was a good one.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
I needed that one.

Speaker 10 (41:36):
I was nervous.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Frank, the head string coach at the Patriots, used to
be at Italians.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
I told him. I said, Hey, we're going to be
in town Monday. We get in Sunday.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
Is he with the Bills?

Speaker 1 (41:45):
He's with the Patriots. Calls me and he's like, we
getting a pumpin or what. I'm like, yeah, we'll get
a pump in Monday morning, So slate us in for that, buddy.
The boys are back at it.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
That's awesome. Frank's other Harold Landry.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Harold Landry's out there, Drake May who's him? And brother
fan of the boy, Bobby Splaine.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
I mean loves football.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Yeah, they got a good group of boys out there.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Manon Diggs. But we'll be hitting Will Campbell, be hitting
interviews in New England, Philadelphia and Buffalo. Those will be
coming out, you know. We will through the month of
all Yeah, through the month of August. Yeah, little vlog, fun,
little vlog.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah, it's gonna be a good time. Man, just kicking
off our fall, Dude, this is kind of This is
like a little appetizer, is like an appetizer before the
big kickoff August twenty nine.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
How do you think Rabe is going to go about
our sit down with him?

Speaker 1 (42:35):
I think it's gonna go exactly like you think it is.
We will both be more nervous than we usually are
for a podcast. He will make some off putting comments
to us as jokes. We will receive them we will
think about say anything like Taylor, looks like you're too skinny.
Now it's like, yeah, Rape looks like you took all
my weight. I'll think that, and then I won't say

(42:55):
that because at the end of the day, it's still Rapes.
So that's how I think it's gonna go. Okay, how
do you think it's gonna go?

Speaker 4 (43:02):
Yeah, I think everything you're saying. I'm actually excited to
sit down. I'm excited to like not a lot of
not a lot of nerves is trying to figure out
where he's gonna go because if he says the uh,
Taylor looks like you lost a lot of waiter, makes
a skinning joke, I'll now be able to you know
how it gets. It's like, okay, now I'll go team
Braves and yeay, Taylor was going to say this about
you goes very Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
I don't doubt that at all. But you know, dude,
it'll be it'll be interesting to see him in his
element there. And with Rabel, it's always like it's always
on Rabel's terms, like we kind of have to figure
out what mood Rabel's in that day.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
I think he's gonna be in a great movie.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I think he is too. I think he's excited. I
think he's excited. He'll sit down, uh twenty bucks says.
He says, Daddy's home is his first thing when he
sits on the bus or sits in the chair.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
Yeah, that he made us.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah, all those things will come. Yeah, you guys are
welcome all the success my career. I mean he took
shot at the Manning Brothers for us. He goes, we're funnier,
less successful versions of the Mannings.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
It was a shot.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, it was a shot.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
I thought that those I thought it was.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
And we are less successful than the Manning brothers. Yeah, yeah,
you're shooting them. I think he was hitting them funnier,
he said.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
Yeah, we said. I thought he gave us a compliment.

Speaker 15 (44:17):
Yeah, compliment, just a fact.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Would love you froom with him. You love to sit
in a team meeting and to see him talk to
them boys. I'll just run the team meeting for him,
because I want to know what version of Arabel are
we seeing twenty eighteen first year of Mike Rabel when
he was trying to turn the culture around, or were
sitting like a twenty twenty twenty one where it's a
little more relaxed. He understands the product's about to put
on the field with the boys.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
Yeah, Patriots could be dangerous this year. It would be
they could be dangerous. They would be Buffalo in that
division Miami. But then out of yeah Miami, the Miami
traded and.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Traded Jayalen Rams around their other corner just got a
c L just towards a cl. So every everybody in
their secondary training camp, everybody in their secondary no one
was there last year. So Miami's already dealing with a
couple of issues. There you got Buffalo, who's just an
absolute juggernaut. I keep thinking this. I have to look
more into it, but I think this is the Bill's year.

(45:09):
I feel like it is. And then the Jets are
gonna Jet.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
I agree with that. I think the I think New
England's got a shot to be the two.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
I think New England has a shot to be the
two as well. Because the Dolphins it's like they had
a skiddy last year. Toua has health issues their back end.
It sounds like they're having a lot of hard times.

Speaker 10 (45:26):
There a lot of people coming at his Veneers to us.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Yeah, booka Shells they said was that a garrett or
was that a you read that somewhere.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
Yeah, he's got some nice new veneers. Look at that's
a good smile. This is a show that's about veneers.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
We support veneers. We support Veneers. Maybe Christmas gift for
all the boys in the back, just to make them
all get veneers.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
I'll take it'd be a great, great gift from you.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
You know what, I wouldn't mind a little something. Yeah,
I see Ernest walking around sometimes he's.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Got like didn't you.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Oh yeah, I wanted a grill. I wanted like one
of those custom mouthpieces that was a grille because I
never really wore a mouthpiece. I wanted to be kept
thinking to myself, white guy from Cave Creek, Arizona, tatted,
dark visor and a grill. I think that's hilarious, your
riff raff. Yeah, I never got to do it though.

(46:30):
That's where you miss it, man, You need that grill.

Speaker 10 (46:34):
I will say it was funny the first time that
I was here in rabel came on the bus because
you guys were like hyping it up big time, and
I'm like, oh, this is gonna be epic, and I
was not thinking of coach player relationship at all, and
right when everybody sits down, it just kind of goes quiet,
and y'are like, how's it going?

Speaker 15 (46:55):
This is not what I thought this was gonna go
at all.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
I thought they were boys with him. You know that
respect is respect that yeah, And it is very much
like Rabel decides how the conversation is gonna go. So
like you start making jokes to really, he'll flip up
and go serious on you, and you're like all right,
and then it's like really when he's ready to be funny,
and it's like, all right, I guess we'll joke around now.

Speaker 7 (47:16):
Also, the last time he came on, he kind of
cooked you with that trash bag bit. Do we try
and formulate something as a I don't know what it
would be.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Whatever it is, we have to keep it quiet.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
We can't say he's a stretches watching right now for
that cut this cut it right, the brave episode, all right,
enjoy the raible interview. Retarded. Oh Ship.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Could bring like a trash game like hey you guys
forgot this, or a trash bag like yeah you forgot
this in Tennessee, like we just wanted to make sure
you got it, like kind of just it's the same joke,
but like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
We could do that, but I don't know. I don't
think we have enough room on the plane.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
I just don't know if you want to reuse that
joke like on him and be like, oh that's cute,
but he'd.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
Get it, he'd get over something.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (48:10):
He probably is going to be ready for war. We
should give him a bag of pink like dust go on?
Did she?

Speaker 8 (48:19):
Stevon Diggs might be never mind?

Speaker 4 (48:23):
Maybe I just hit like, uh getting the Verbel fits
and then we're just like ripping a jewel like as
he sits down.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
I think we should get in a Rabel fit before
this podcast for sure. That actually would be hilarious.

Speaker 7 (48:33):
Yeah yeah, just vest forget you already both got the mustache.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Figure out what he's wearing that day and being.

Speaker 9 (48:40):
On it wrote on the top of the shirt, Oh yeah,
I have.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
A perfectly good busting shirt, is what he did.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
I miss.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
I hope Gen comes.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
She's not gonna be there, I asked, really, yeah, damn,
it's gonna be good. Seah. He he hit me up
because he and Stretcher watching film. I don't know how
they got across his clip. But it was when you know,
I forced him recover the fumble against the Detroit Lions
and like at the goal line, he's like stretches, trying
to tell me you force his fumble, but Daykon day
Kwon loosened it up before you got there. He's right.

(49:15):
I ended up getting credited with the stat. Day Kon
was pissed after the game. He's like, hey, I caused it, Phone,
I know, but you're gonna get the stat. And I
was like, yeah, well, what you caused the fumble? I'm
saying I'm acknowledging that you cause them fumble. He's like, yeah,
but you on social media everbody's gonna think you did it.
But I don't know what you want me to say.
Of course I'm gonna hype it up.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Let men, I love what's he doing now?

Speaker 4 (49:39):
He's still playing, isn't he? I don't think so. He
was on the bills last year just put day Kwon Jones,
he put his.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Daykon still playing? Sure?

Speaker 4 (49:51):
What kind of so can you go to?

Speaker 7 (50:01):
All?

Speaker 4 (50:01):
Can we see if he's still playing? Jesus?

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Sure, Sherman's got no problem putting up all the most
weird stuff in the world.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
Yeah, yeah, we need some information here. Sure, are you
looking it up? Okay, he's with the Bills.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Yeah, we'll see him when we're in Buffalo. Then go
sure what else, dude?

Speaker 4 (50:23):
Our internship has come to a close. Yeah, that's a
great fun. I'm trying.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Actually just texted clubs that bring cheese on the bus.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
It's his last day.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
Yeah. So we had five interns and we hired three
of them. That's a big that's big. We we had
expectations of hiring one for social but the boys are
leaving with three big cheese. He's what cheese is what?
Nineteen years old? He's got to go back to school.
He was. He was talking about It's like, buddy, you

(50:50):
gotta you don't sacrifice everything the joined bus with the
boys right now. You gotta Yeah, you gotta go back
to school.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
That feels like forever.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
You have to have a degree to get the job. Yeah, yeah, yoh,
gotta have Are you gotta have a degree? Acad's in camp.
We hired Matt Malone, chef Jack and Borrow.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Good group of boys, man, good group, And that is
the most busting thing ever to be like, well, maybe
hire one guy and then they're all great. We're like, well,
all right, we got it. We can't gotta have this.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
Guy made him, made themselves invaluable.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
There was something that happened. Was it two days ago
where Soul Matt Malone is essentially under Jack? But then
they then they raced weird and Matt, I believe, beat
you in a race.

Speaker 8 (51:42):
Yeah, by like a little bit.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
I think.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
I think if you Matt reached out with his hand,
you went ahead. But I think it would have been
a tie.

Speaker 7 (51:51):
If and I'm wearing vans, running at thirty years old,
no warm up.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Thirty uphill, I think it would have been a tie.

Speaker 8 (52:00):
He was faster than I thought he would be.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
I got Jack on the field though, for sure.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
You do JP. Yeah, is this big cheese, big cheddar,
Come on here, big cheddy cheese.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
Send them in a chair, bro, what's going on? We're
just talking about how we were talking about recapping the
internship and how it was your last day.

Speaker 15 (52:25):
Yeah, it's been crazy.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
Did you learn a lot?

Speaker 15 (52:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (52:28):
I did.

Speaker 15 (52:28):
I did learn a whole bunch from these guys.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
In the they did the most recent bus things. I
thought you did a hell of a job.

Speaker 15 (52:34):
Thank you appreciate it. It took a lot of time. Shout
out JP for helping the kid out, but yeah, it's
been awesome.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Who wrote those note cards? Was that JP's questions? Were
those your questions?

Speaker 15 (52:44):
We we collabed on it. Yeah, yeah, I would say
he came up with a couple of really good ones.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yeah, we collab when you were on uh it's called
inside the bus now, when we were on inside the bus,
you we sat down with the boys and they said,
give me one word to describe each guy sitting here.
Can you go, what was your original words for the guys,
and then what is your new word for them?

Speaker 15 (53:05):
I stayed pretty respectful, as you should. I might have
gave Garrett some grief. I don't know what I I
don't I don't remember I did say, Mitch, I said,
hyphenated big ass head. Yeah, I thought that was oh,
I said, yeah, Jack was always on Twitter hyphenated Yeah.

(53:30):
From moving forward, I think I think Garrett would just
be helpful. Jarrett's a very helpful guy. Whenever I need him.
We have, Hey, we're growing.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
JP.

Speaker 15 (53:49):
JP's open minded, very open minded guy.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Jack.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
He keeps saying it under his breath, too. Go ahead, Mitch.

Speaker 15 (54:09):
Still he's he's still got a big guys head.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Yeah, as long as he can go.

Speaker 15 (54:16):
Uh sirm's gotta be goofball, terms a big goofball. And
then Jack Yeah always on Twitter. You're still always on Twitter? Man? Yeah? Still?

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Or how about your mentor Jared, how do you feel
about him? How's a process been of him teaching you?

Speaker 15 (54:35):
He has been amazing every single question. I feel like
I was peppering him all the time with like random
questions and just like things that get can get kind
of repetitive. But he did a really good job with
us and we made we we bonded really well, really fast,

(54:56):
because I feel like our stories are kind of similar
when it comes to get in a really cool internship
opportunity early on in our careers. And yeah, we bonded
very quickly. And I feel like he did a killer
job with all of us for sure.

Speaker 7 (55:10):
Nice.

Speaker 15 (55:10):
So, yeah, he helped me. He helped me grow and
learn a lot.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
We're gonna miss you, bro, You're a boy for life. Yeah,
we're gonna miss you, I thought. I thought. Overall, just
the internship itself was an incredible learning experience for us.
I hope you guys get a lot out of it too,
but it was kind of new for us Chartered Waters.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Right, and we kind of did just decide to do
this internship. We had like a little with the two
boys from Michigan, a little like you know, okay, let's
see how it kind of feels is dip our toe
and went full on board and it was like, all right, Jared,
you run this entire thing. Yeah, And I thought Jared
did a great job, did a great job. Could have
picked a better group of boys, Yeah, Alu bay man.

Speaker 15 (55:49):
That first day we walked in, when we were I
was looking around, I was like, they brought five new guys,
and there's gotta be one odd one. I mean, Matt's
got his own thing going on. But you picked five
amazing guys. Jared did a great job hiring us. So yeah,
you crushed it.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
Man. You've been with us for two months now, away
from home. Are you excited to get back home?

Speaker 15 (56:08):
I am super excited to get back home, back to
back see my family, see my friends and everything.

Speaker 12 (56:13):
But a little bit of.

Speaker 15 (56:15):
My heart's gonna be left in Nashville here.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
That's beautiful man for cheese. Before we send them.

Speaker 9 (56:22):
Off, I was gonna say, what was some of your
favorite moments from the summer, because we did some cool
ship this amazing summer.

Speaker 15 (56:30):
Obviously that first day coming in and just like Will
and Taylor just caught like just calmly saying, yeah, we're
gonna throw you guys on the bus really quick, and
I was just like freaking out, Like I don't recall
that at all, freaking out. But obviously tighten you was
an awesome week.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
Yeah we did.

Speaker 15 (56:54):
We did go over. We did hang out Mitch's house.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
Yeah we did. We did.

Speaker 15 (57:01):
We did watch the fights to Jack's.

Speaker 14 (57:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (57:03):
I had a great time. I feel like you guys
really brought me in and I the brunch too.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
Yeah we had a killer.

Speaker 15 (57:09):
We had a killer somewhere. But yeah, you guys just
taking me in and and taught me a lot. So
I had a great had a great time.

Speaker 9 (57:19):
It's been sick, dude, It's been a lot of fun.

Speaker 12 (57:21):
For sure.

Speaker 9 (57:22):
We did come a long way from that first time
you were on inside the bus.

Speaker 15 (57:28):
Yes we did.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
He did kind of.

Speaker 9 (57:29):
He grilled cheese me.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
The first experience with cheese. I walked up, uh in
that little area where the old beer punk stuff is.
You guys have made like a little office for them,
and I grabbed his hat and I put it on,
and she goes, we fucking are fighting.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
You know where cowboys hat?

Speaker 1 (57:47):
What what are you talking about? He took my hat?

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Cowboy.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Yeah, he took my hat and put it on. Just
big dog me and I just met him like the
first time we fucking or fight.

Speaker 9 (58:00):
Don't take a cowboys hat, no.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
Doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Well, jeez, we appreciate you, man.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
You did a great job.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
You were awesome, man boy for life's giving.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
Men appreciate boys, big Chetta.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Oh you fucking sun you twice back to back.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
That's how he did.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
That's what he did on Man get him at.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
That's what he did on his first day he did. Man.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Yeah, dude, great internship. Good three group of guys, two
and a half. Good group of guys coming in staying
with bus. Matt's got his Matt's got his own bag.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
Man.

Speaker 8 (58:35):
He is literally the only guys supporting Michigan with you.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
That's that's not true.

Speaker 8 (58:39):
Coop is.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Have you talked to about.

Speaker 8 (58:46):
It or about training bride?

Speaker 9 (58:50):
He was kind of.

Speaker 8 (58:53):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
I'm not taking anything away from Nebraska. Nebraska Lincoln is awesome.
Fan base is great. The stadiums, the people are awesome.
I think my team's better than your team. That's it.
I love Will, I love the bread, that's all. And
we're gonna find that September twentieth, when I'm the only
one on that plane flying back with a big ass
smile on my face, you're all gonna feel dumb. But Matt,

(59:17):
Matt's got his own bag, dude. Matt's got his own
little deal going on right now. Matt, Yeah, yeah, he's
got And I told him after two because when you
guys raced, you guys walked in. I keep hearing people saying, Matt,
you cheated, you cheated, blah blah blah. And he's just like,
my arm's along, I don't cheat whatever he was saying. Yeah,
Well he also he said fuck like seven times around

(59:39):
my kids, which the first time is funny, but it's like, hey,
we can do that. Second time is like I get it.
We all make mistakes, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seven times.
My brother, what are we doing? And he's yelling at too,
but I brought him in. I was like, hey, come here,
I go. I don't know what bit you're doing, but
like the right now, this first six months you haven't
busting with the boys is going to be the bed

(01:00:01):
that you are going to have to sleep in. So
how do you want to represent yourself to these guys?
Because eventually it'll just be there'll be the evidence. I'll
be like, how's Matt. Matt's like this, No, I'm not,
here's the evidence. And I was like, you got to
realize the bed you're kind of making for yourself right
now because I'm watching it, I'm just like like, this
is a young ass cat. But then I see the

(01:00:22):
what is it under the hood? Everyone's like, what's your pet?

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Peeve?

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Matt goes JP. The rest of them go Matt, So
let's see, let's see what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
Matt.

Speaker 7 (01:00:33):
Yeah, a lot of potential, a little bit uh And
at the end of the day, he's my guy, So
like I you know, me and him. I was like
that too at a younger age, and then you turn
thirty and you grow up.

Speaker 8 (01:00:47):
You know, you turn thirty and grow up just like
that seven years.

Speaker 7 (01:00:53):
No, but I do think he's he's like a good
punching bag. He takes a joke well, but like there's
some of the ship he says, just like so out
of pocket you're like dog like, I don't know if
you live in like a perpetual bit or if you
are literally just a huge douchebag.

Speaker 8 (01:01:08):
Right, and I link it's half and half. But I
love the yet of Dad.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
But buddy, if you were, if.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
You're, guys got to love on him. His family's watching.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
That, no doubt, And we're trying to get this fam
in a calm and be like, hey, sounds like they.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
Do anytime we mentioned them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
But yeah, and if, like Matt is a guy that
is good at taking a joke, that's great. But eventually,
if you become the guy that's always the butt of
the joke, it hurts eventually, Mitch am I right, yeah,
I mean, fuck, how often have you been like on
the boat of every joke And it's like, yeah, it's
fun for a little bit, but then it's like, holy shit.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
I mean I've just gotten used to it at this
point three years in. I mean, it is what it is,
and like, but Matt seems more He's like, dude, I
don't know what you guys are even saying, like where
is this even coming from. It's like, Matt, you put
this on yourself. I don't know if I necessarily put
it on myself.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
I said, that's a really good thing that's happened for you,
no doubt.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Yeah, no dout.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
But just let that dog lie. Okay, I do like
Matt just say, well, I I worry about him. I
worry about him a bit. I got a bunch of
sharks back here that I get his ass.

Speaker 7 (01:02:12):
He the last thing I'll say about him, he said,
just a classic Matt euphemism today where he's like, yeah,
I'm meeting with my ex girlfriend and I haven't seen
her eight months.

Speaker 8 (01:02:21):
He goes, things have just been too good recently. He
just I need some chaos in my life.

Speaker 6 (01:02:25):
I was like, you up with He's like, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
No, I just just stirre the pot a little.

Speaker 8 (01:02:28):
I was like, dog, what are you doing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
I swear to God, I heard that exact thing come
out of your mouth. I'm telling you reformed. I swear
I've heard Jack say that before. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:02:44):
Yeah, I mean I'm laying out the footprints for him right,
And he's got seven years until he's got to figure
his ship out.

Speaker 8 (01:02:53):
Clock is ticking.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
I love the boy, man, love him. I love our additions.

Speaker 8 (01:02:57):
We love Matt Miss Malone, and he's in get hands.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Yeah, miss Malonia or a fan.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
Of Matt should we should we get to our interviews.

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Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
Until everything was ready, We got got it? Yeah, okay,
so ready to go. You're talking brave stories.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Like the hat. We got a hat. You can leave
me with a hat.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
You're not a big head guy. It might be I
like the rope. We'll get you, We'll get you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
I like it. Carter likes them.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Do you remember what you said to me when you
when I was late for tea meeting one time?

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Yeah? Thank god you're rich?

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
And then what happened?

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
I find you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Yeah, no other words were I thought abouts it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
It was good and we moved on, and so we're here.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
We were early.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I was on time nine to twenty, Stacy, nine to twenty.
Thank you, Stacey.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Welcome to Bust with the boys again, dude, third time.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
There's a charm.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
Good to see you back on your feet.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Thank you.

Speaker 11 (01:05:08):
Yeah, well I don't think that was ever off my feet,
but well, Tennessee, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
There's like a little Browns consultant.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Consultant.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
We've all been fired.

Speaker 11 (01:05:17):
Yeah, shit canned. Yeah, go ahead, Taylor, Yeah, I don't
get scared. Now ask the hard stuff. Let's go back
on my feet.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
What took place in that conversation that led because when
the season ended, everyone's like Rave was gonna get extension.
The rumor is that Raves is now going to go
from an eighth sheet to actually have a little more
of a GM role as well, maybe a little more
power in the building. And then you walked into a
meeting and you walk down there, I.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Can know that wasn't a meeting. That those aren't meetings.
You just get fired.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
They just called you and fired you.

Speaker 11 (01:05:47):
No, you walk upstairs. Yeah, you just handle it. I
just said give me an hour and I'll be out
of here. I want to talk to my staff.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
I feel like you. You wouldn't be a fun guy
to to fire.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
No, it was meant and they make everybody makes decisions.
And uh I any question. No, I got the point.
I got the point, get the drift.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
So there was never like a hey, what do you
think could have happened differently?

Speaker 11 (01:06:14):
A no, no that at that point. No, there was
no Again, it was no discussion. I heard the message
and I just said, give me an hour. I like
to talk to my staff and I'll box my stuff up.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
Just spind the cup. How close were you to coaching
in college, because there are rumors throughout not very close.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Not very close.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
There are rumors about you potentially being the defensive coordinator
at NASA. Remember when I texted you, I was like, hey.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Yeah, no interest and what I text? I'd even text
back or no, I forget what you No? Not very close.

Speaker 11 (01:06:53):
No, And I love my time in Cleveland. I mean
I love being on the offensive side of the ball.
I loved just getting back to coaching helped the old line.
You'd have loved it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
You were in there all the time telling guys to
wall off on the backside of duo, getting just getting the.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Way inside, inside out, deuce near foot.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
It was there anything during that time with Cleveland?

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
You got to have it there, leverage, man, reach, you
take them on the angle, you find them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Are you running the same offense in Cleveland?

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
There were some similarities.

Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
Yeah, was there a time like uh, just having that
year in Cleveland to where you found or reignited some
passion that you had that when you were you were
at first head coach, all the expectations, all the pressure,
and then you kind of just go into a consulting
role and kind of having more fun around Cleveland.

Speaker 11 (01:07:38):
I think that that's probably there's some truth to that.
I think there's some reality to that. I think you
realize that you miss it, you know, and that you
want to do it, that there's nothing else that you
want to do.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
Do you have what do you feel like you learned
from the first time as the head coach now coming
into New England?

Speaker 11 (01:07:56):
Well, I mean I think we learned stuff every day.
I mean, it's just there's gonna be things that come
up every day. Situations, injuries, you know, I mean we
always talk about distractions are unavoidable, it's how we we
handle them. And so just staying flexible, staying consistent, you know,
focusing on the guys that want to improve, that are

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taking a message, and those things that sometimes I let
the you know, the small majority affect all all the
other positive stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:08:26):
Yeah, you'd always say, you can't fuck up my Friday,
but sometimes sometimes they try.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
No, I mean they tried, Taylor tried and all everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
I think sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
I probably did. But it was a good message. It
was a good tagline.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
How did you do that development of you and Jameis
Winston running at the start of every practice, So.

Speaker 11 (01:08:49):
They would go routes on air, right, and then they
would go and I was like, I can I mean,
I could push these guys a little bit, just goofing around.
I'd wait to the last guy throw and take off,
run in and just trying to have some fun down
there in the Greenbrier down in West Virginia.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Have you ever seen what a spirit that guy has?

Speaker 11 (01:09:06):
I was gonna I ever met a guy you think
it's like, you know, two three days in this is
a stick, right, yeah? Three five second a week, two
weeks You're like, it's impossible to stay in character.

Speaker 14 (01:09:19):
This long.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
This is actually this guy is actor of all time. Yeah.
I'm like, now this is just a stick and I'm like, nope,
this is I loved it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
When did it feel like New England was going to
be a real possibility for you?

Speaker 11 (01:09:33):
Well, I mean just going through the process of interviewing
and having he's doing teams reach.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Out, He's doing the thing right now, the coach talk.

Speaker 11 (01:09:41):
Yeah, I mean I think after the after the season, like,
that's when it heats up, you know what I mean,
that's when people call.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
How about this? How about this? So we get so
because the coach? Yeah, yeah, the interview process everything else.
Are you leaving a good inn? Are you leaving like
after you have a good interview and you're just thinking, Man,
what if I be I'm the head coach of the Patriots. Hey,
three banners up there. You reminded us all the time
to work.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
No I didn't.

Speaker 11 (01:10:12):
You're not in every single year in this meeting with
you guys, you guys would juice it a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Hey, listen, just stay in front of your guys. Listen,
what do I know I've done for I know that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Is not true.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Myself imperserrate that. But but what are you talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
Yeah, but legit legit, like whether you're flying back or
you're driving and you're just thinking, what if I'm the
head coach of the New England Patriots.

Speaker 11 (01:10:36):
Yeah, I mean I think that that goes through and
I think that the timing was right, and had opportunity
to come back here probably prior as an assistant. Uh,
I didn't feel like that was something that I wanted
to do or that was what was best for me
at that particular time, And then I think the timing
was was right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
Was the inter your process a little bit different with
the Patriots because you have the relationship with Craft called
them up, say what are you thinking?

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
No, I mean they were all about they were all
about the same. Yeah, I mean as far as.

Speaker 11 (01:11:09):
Actually I met with Chicago, met with the Jets, and
then met with the Patriots, and had talked to other teams,
but didn't end up taking those interviews.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Did any other teams offer you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Offer without an interview?

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
No, like you you end up talking to those couple
of other teams.

Speaker 11 (01:11:24):
Oh No, I mean I think that that after meeting here,
I think that it happened pretty quick over the next
couple of days.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
When you go out to practice and it's like, you know,
fans can come in the gen pops watching, they're excited.
Do you ever hear anything about the twenty nineteen season
when you Bill Belichick? Bill Belichick?

Speaker 11 (01:11:42):
No, I mean I don't hear anything about that specifically
from the fans. Yeah, I met people are excited. I'm
glad that they're excited and they come out and it's
it's a good environment. We had a bunch of fans
in the stadium on Friday. It'd be a bunch up
there today. They heard you guys were coming.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
They did. Yeah, they did, said put on the tweet.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
I hooked up with your boy Frank. You ever interview
Frank the Tank?

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:12:07):
Yeah, how smart that Frank.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
He's an encyclopedia.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
I mean it was like just couth.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
Times you're walking, You're like where you know, where might
this go?

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
We just talked sports.

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
Yeah, he is an encyclopedia.

Speaker 11 (01:12:18):
Knew everything about all the about the ages that I
grew up in. Brown's back then, every crazy everything that
was fun.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
What else?

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Kids?

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
Everybody good, everybody's great, man, everybody's great.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
You've done with you've done it too? Or how many
more we haven't?

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
Uh, we're up in the air right now, but we're
open to a third one. We're open to a third one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
How was the la Wan crew?

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
Do you guys go to Canada?

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Went to Canada? Just got back on the twenty first win.
Willow turned eight and five. So when does watched Harry
Potter for the first time yesterday before we gotten the plane?

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
What's that maker set? Third grade?

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Yeah? Third well, second grade?

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Second grade? Held her back, got the wan? Little wan brain.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Starts reading a little bit. I said, I think to myself,
and you know what, we're gonna do you the favor
that never happened for me, and we're gonna hold you
back a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Good.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
Yeah, it's it's it's tough because you risk you go again.
You get three girls.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
It's Tony do.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's the guy that chased. He
was obviously chasing the boy got the twos.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
We'll do one. We have a little football player, okay
or not?

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
And again yeah, kids, just get it right like you
did the first time and second.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Time and the second time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
The boys.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Tyler's actually a BC helping out O line intern.

Speaker 11 (01:13:30):
Yeah, yeah, you helped out in the spring and then
they asked him to come back help for the season.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
So he's grinding, figuring out that, figuring out the old uh.

Speaker 11 (01:13:40):
Grind, Yeah, like just the whole Like you know, when
you play, you you don't worry about you see the diagrams, right,
you don't realize where those run diagrams came from.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
Or where the defense?

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Yeah, right, And so it's on visio and he's like that.

Speaker 11 (01:13:53):
The first time I said, hey, all these cards on visio,
he goes, I was there for four hours. I think
I got three cards done. He's like, there's got to
be a better way for this. And then he figured
it out, and you know, and then Carter's back in Nashville.

Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
How often is Tyler looking for a job?

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
What is he doing looking for a job?

Speaker 11 (01:14:14):
He graduated from Tennessee Tech, played baseball, and uh is
looking for a job the Pats.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
No, he's not coming. He's not leaving Nashville.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
He's not leaving. He staying.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
You know, he ain't trying to get no, he he
he loves Nashville. He he'll be up here for the game.

Speaker 14 (01:14:28):
But he just loves the room.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
He went for a summer and was like hanging out.
He would it was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
He know, he's passed chasing jocks around everything else, laundry
is Tyler?

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
Does he pick your brain a lot on the You know, he.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Was asking about coverages.

Speaker 11 (01:14:42):
As an offensive lineman, I think as a young one,
you don't really worry too much about coverage, and now
that he's drawing cards, he just wants to know, you know,
coverages and rotation and whether the week's safety is down
or the week's safeties pressuring. Is he outside the end?
You know, all the things that we would talk about.
You know, I think he's just understanding the game. I
think he's excited about helping the young players. He was

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a developmental player and so he's like, I get to
work with the threes. There's some young guys that I
think have potential. So I think that there's some excitement
there from from helping those guys.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
Does he want to coach coach with you one day?

Speaker 11 (01:15:17):
I don't know about that, you know, I mean, I
just I think he wants to see if he wants
to coach and if he's willing to go on this journey.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
What was the conversation like with him, because I was
before before we're going, I was trying to catch up
on what he was up to.

Speaker 11 (01:15:28):
H huh.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
And I just saw that July thirtieth, he was on
injury reserve. In twenty twenty four, I assumed, like, okay,
he's out.

Speaker 11 (01:15:34):
So he and Tyler just decided that he didn't want
to do to practice squad again. That had been his,
you know, his decision, and again I that's that was
his path, and I think he realized that he you know,
missed football, loved football, wanted to be around it, and
finished his degree. And then the process of doing that

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helped out in the spring, and then you know, they
asked him to come back for the season.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Was there any type of conversation between you and him
and You're like, yeah, I know, you don't want to
the practice what again?

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
There was there was like a coach and a dad conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
You gotta wear different hats. I'm sure that was a
tough for you to go back and forth.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Well it wasn't. I think a while ago it had.

Speaker 11 (01:16:12):
I mean, I told you there were some things that
I regretted, you know, growing up when they were growing up.
There was things that I regretted the way that I
handled it and was you know, borderline embarrassed with things that,
you know, just not being able to differentiate.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
The coach and the being demanding.

Speaker 11 (01:16:31):
And then Dad and so, by the grace of God,
got past that and had another opportunity. And so it
was a good conversation. It was, Hey, here's what I
would say to you as from a coaching perspective. Here's
what I would say to you as a dad. And
so he made his decision, and I think he's really
happy about it, and uh, you know see where this goes.

(01:16:52):
This coaching thing goes for him. Yeah, like Tyler, dude,
Oh he don't. Yeah, he's harmless.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
The other one, the other one is out.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
Of his Yeah, he's gonna he's gonna catch fire here.

Speaker 11 (01:17:03):
So plenty of ink and there, you know, I mean,
they they love the ink guy. I mean, they could
thank Taylor for for hooking them up.

Speaker 14 (01:17:09):
Joey.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
Right, joe here's in town this past week. It is right,
anytime Joey's in town, I feel like Carter's over there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
So at first it was I think you were like, hey,
Carter wants to get some mank you got a guy
he comes in right, So we kind of got them
hooked up. And then Eventually it became Joey text me
and be like, Hey, I'm coming into Nashville for a weekend.
What are you doing here?

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Is like Tyler had him come to Atlanta too for
a couple of guys like that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Yeah, Joey's just out there doing mercenary work for other guys.

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
I got a question for you. You are you're big
on culture and painting a clear vision, whether it's a
weekly game plan or whether you're coming in for the
first time as a head coach and kind of painting
how the organization is going to be. What is the
best advice you've received on building culture, whether you've been
a fly on the wall witnessing something, or you've kind
of learned in conversation with a former coach.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Uh, here's what I've learned.

Speaker 11 (01:17:58):
I've learned that we can have different personalities, we can't
have different mentalities, and sometimes what's that buddy, that's a bar?
I just sometimes get caught up that we don't that
that people may be different than me. I think I
struggle with that early on, and and now I've realized
that if the mentality is the same, how they maybe

(01:18:20):
act off the field or what their personality is or
they may not be. You know, I would say that
we all kind of have this similar personality right pretty close.
But there's a lot of people and players that are
successful that don't and I have to be okay with
that if ultimately their mentality is about the culture that
that we want to have here, and I think that's
what I've learned.

Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
Would you say that's what you've learned, is that growing
pains as a head coach? Is that more earlier in
your assistant coaching?

Speaker 8 (01:18:47):
No?

Speaker 11 (01:18:48):
I mean I think as a head like as a
head coach, right, whether it's you know, just players that
have different personalities but still got their job done and
did it the way that we ask them to do it.
You have to be okay with, you know, kind of
that what their vibe is just walking around let them, Yeah,
they got to be them.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
You excited to have Cardi be a couple of games
this year?

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
I don't know. I thought that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
I haven't seen her yet. I haven't. Well, I'm sure
we'll double they sure we'll.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Take you Jen, card Are you Friday out there?

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
There's a level of excitement when you heard one of
your players dating a famous lady like, oh, we have
our own Taylor Swift.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Now, yeah, I guess so, I mean, I don't you know,
I don't you see.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
The revenue from this past year sixteen billion extra in revenue. Yeah,
and I started trending upwards in Kansas City when.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
You know, I don't know. I mean, I'll see that.

Speaker 11 (01:19:42):
I mean not try to meet everybody's family that comes
and a lot of people come out. If she's here,
I'll say, Hi, I don't see how that goes?

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Fair enough? You there was a big we talked about
this on the podcast. Is twenty eighteen Rapes was a
lot different than twenty twenty two rapes?

Speaker 4 (01:19:59):
What rape are?

Speaker 7 (01:20:00):
You?

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Are the Newland Patriots players getting a like because you
go walk into a place that has those banners on
the wall.

Speaker 11 (01:20:05):
Foray, somewhere between those two, Yeah, you know, I think
you just learn and again you're just trying to set
things and make sure that again there's there's an individual
role that the players trying to create, and then there's
the the idea of building a team, and I have
to try.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
To combine those two. Right, So do you evaluate treatment
and culture? Things like if you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
Walked in the Titans facility, and the culture was very
like all over the place, very sporadic. We didn't really
have an identity of who we were when you walked
into here, was there, like did you get the same
sense of like culture?

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
I needed to.

Speaker 11 (01:20:42):
I felt like it was important to make sure that
all those systems and the programs and everybody around the
players was sound right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
That that was there was a structure there that the
support systems what was was sound and cleaned up.

Speaker 11 (01:20:56):
And then we focused on the players, you know, because
the players aren't around and in February, everybody's gone. So
it's like operations and video and equipment and training and
player engagement, all these things that were set up that
I wanted the players when they came back that they
were you know, they were they liked what they saw,

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They believed in the program that we were building. And
then and then now we're we're focused on the on
the football side of it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
When you're going and you get the call and you're like,
I'm going to be the head coach of the New
England Patriots. Were you essentially like Ron Bergen getting the
band back together when you went and got stretching, Frank
and all the boys popping up, rolled over, rolling.

Speaker 11 (01:21:35):
Over, and I was, you know, some of those guys
you can get. Some of them you can't. Some guys
are under contract. But again, those people are important to
me and I hope to the players we had. They
were part of our success. And certainly, you know Stretches
he Alreadys had a feature article in the Boston Globe.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
There's another one coming down the pipe. I heard.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
He's starting to feel himself a little bit right next
to yours.

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
He's looking for a window.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
He's getting a window. We're building a new building. You
got a window next door.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
That article came out. Those are his demands, but no, he's.

Speaker 11 (01:22:15):
He's, uh, you know how important Stretches and the best
you know, Frank and and and Ryan and all the
assistant coaches were able to get Big Tea and Hass.
I think Hass does a fantastic job. The old line
room has got three good coaches in there. So just
trying to give the players everything that they need. And
you know, we're big on connection and we think that's

(01:22:37):
important and and hopefully we can continue to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
How about Bob Splaine, Bobby getting another stint with Bob Splaine,
him being undrafted.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
I told him the other day. I told him the
other day. I was like, I said, after you knocked
the ship out of Derek, I said, if you stop hitting.
He's like, what do you tell you? Get serious?

Speaker 11 (01:22:56):
You remember when he smoked Derek and so then I
was like, you smoked Derek. I said, you even't hit
anybody since then. He's like, what do you I was like, dude,
I said, you're too easy man.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Just for that.

Speaker 11 (01:23:08):
I was just like you trying to get my blood
pressure on all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:23:14):
But that's been awesome to see. He signed what like
a thirty three million dollars deal. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:23:17):
I mean everybody's got their own journey to the National
Football League, and.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Yeah, we don't care how you got here.

Speaker 14 (01:23:24):
All we care about is.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
What you do when you're here.

Speaker 4 (01:23:27):
I cut your aspect.

Speaker 11 (01:23:29):
It was a rookie mini camp tryout. Yeah, and those
are like you're doing those. It's like favors, like get
the guy a hat and a T shirt and send
him on his way.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
And now here he is just came in doing his thing.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
A contract, got Harold who is Jack doctor Gibbons.

Speaker 11 (01:23:44):
Doctor doctor Gibby. Yeah, what's crazy? Now we have a
Gibson and a Gibbons. We have Antonio Gibson, so it's
Gibby and doctor Gibby.

Speaker 4 (01:23:57):
Jack's got the doctors.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Got every answer in a book that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
You Every year around this time you pop up a
film This ship that gets you beat film from the
year prior. What are like three or four key plays
you saw on last season that you pull up in
the screen. You're like, guys, this is the ship that
gets you beat.

Speaker 11 (01:24:15):
Oh, not being able to take advantage of bad football, right,
two minute execution, those are big ones. Guys throwing the
ball to the official, you know, celebrating after a gain
as the clocks ticking and you're thirty yards from field
goal range, ball security, right, all those things. I mean,
it's the same stuff. It is the same stuff. Just

(01:24:38):
try to build an identity around our effort and a
way that we finish. You know, I think Taylor will
remember it's hard to finish when you're looking back for
the ball or you're directing traffic and all those things
we talk about it. But taking care the football right,
being able to take care of football. I still think
fundamentals are important. I think techniques important, offensive lines of

(01:25:02):
technical position, you know, and then again, whether it's don't
do dumb shit to hurt the team, or a softer,
gentler version is making great decisions on and off the field.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
I don't know. We had some opportunities to have a
scrimmage on Friday.

Speaker 11 (01:25:19):
Guys got excited, you know, taunting three fifteen yards, pointing
in somebody's face, you know, throwing the guns up, all
that stuff, just things that you know.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
It.

Speaker 11 (01:25:33):
We're just it's hard to be that good for all
that stuff to not matter. That stuff has to matter,
and we'll get there. I'm confident that we will.

Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
There's always some good Friday tape.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
Yeah, we're not there yet.

Speaker 11 (01:25:46):
We're so far from Friday tape, just because you know
we're at the ground floor. Yeah, you know, we'll break out.
The first one, we did have a good meeting. We
split the teams up, We had a draft, and we
put together like a draft reveal, right for this scrimmage
off Friday night, we had like a draft reveal. So

(01:26:07):
we split the coaches up, had two separate head coaches.
They drafted stretching out, were like the commissioners of the draft.
And then they had we put all these funny pictures
of these guys from high school and all this other stuff.
And I was like Johnny Carson going through like on
the reveal and they had the draft music, and I mean,
the guys had fun like something, remember when you didn't
know if I was like joking or not joking. So

(01:26:29):
I would be like, you can laugh.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
It's like.

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
We're still a couple on stage.

Speaker 11 (01:26:35):
We're still there where I'm like that if it's funny, laugh,
and I mean I kind of go back and forth
and they're not sure when I go to the joke,
so I let it loose.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
The other day a lot of laughs. And it was.

Speaker 4 (01:26:50):
Because you'll be caught in the middle of a you're
breaking down film and team meetings and you're roasting, and
it's like, you know, you're like holding in your laughter
because like, oh, this is a serious moment. Then when
you throw a joke, it's like yeah, then last, right, because.

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
You will you do like to flip on a dime.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
On a swim right.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
You'd be like, Taylor, what were we doing here?

Speaker 4 (01:27:14):
We pay you?

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
How much?

Speaker 15 (01:27:14):
Am I?

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
This is awful? You're terrible, and everyone terrible, and you'll
be like saying all these things. You'll be like doing
your podcast with your boy Will Right, Well, yeah, what
do we what.

Speaker 4 (01:27:30):
Are we doing?

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
So we get it's a it's it's a process. It's
a process.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
How many shows are you guys traveling a lot?

Speaker 8 (01:27:36):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Where were you before this?

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
So we had some time off.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
We knocked out tight ending you at the last week
of and so then I went to Canada.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
You guys were basically the ball boys for that thing.
Weren't you run around?

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
Yeah? Whatever they needed water, No job too big, no
job too small.

Speaker 11 (01:27:57):
I mean it just looked like I mean every every
clip you guys were there, like with water towels.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
It was hot. We're there to serve, man, I looked
like it you were serving.

Speaker 4 (01:28:07):
We're giving back to the youth.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
Ball washing.

Speaker 4 (01:28:12):
You said, Taylor, so is gonna be there? Here?

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
We can we can we hang out, we can hang up,
we can.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Open, we can see sure, we'll go cameras there, Okay, good?

Speaker 4 (01:28:19):
Can we bring Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
And then what other teams you've been to? Any other teams?

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
You're first one.

Speaker 11 (01:28:26):
Then we got made the voyage. Uh, this is it
Virgin Territory.

Speaker 4 (01:28:30):
He was always once once you got hired, it was circled.
We gotta get it it's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Don't go back up.

Speaker 11 (01:28:38):
Like all you have to do is just text daddy.
I'll text you back. Whether you guys can come.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
Jokes.

Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
But we met the draft. We we texted or we
met Victoria out at the draft. She was awesome. Veronica, Oh, Veronica,
I'm so sorry. That was.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
It's our Hey, it's our Hey, you're gonna you're gonna
muscle through that. But we met them at the draft
and they were really excited. They were obviously seemed like
we have been talking about saying some nice things.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
So we were like, I showed that clip.

Speaker 11 (01:29:04):
Where will you showed him the clip that I sent
about the costs fumble on the goal line?

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
Oh yeah, I told him about it. I didn't run
a meeting and show them I wanted to. But you
showed the team.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
No, I didn't show the team though.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
You showed any man reaches.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Yeah, that man reaches from like I don't know, Like
we had a POD's drill in there.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
Yeah, probably not good then yeah, oh you know what, it.

Speaker 11 (01:29:27):
Showed a fit drill and and you got over extended
and you got jerked. Remember the FID drill.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
The rock set, which we can be honest with you
now that we're on the other side. Yeah, I think
that's a dumb drill.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
I don't. I think the past is good, right because.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Again you're staying level. I'm never in the special.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
No, you're talking about not on the not on the cutoff,
not on like just the rock set right where we
snap out.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
Also also a dumb drill again because.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
You got over extended and then got jerked. It wasn't
a dumb drill.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
It bad techniques because if you and I are both
going at each other, we're going and we're fitting and
then we're setting, but they already know what's happening. And
then as soon as I say it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
Right, But I didn't say get over extended, didn't get
no shoulders.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
Out over there, create hands and side the jerk.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
And the transition and you on my you on my
base to be a little wait, yeah, a little bit
more of a Yeah, you were kind of not over
your skis over.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
But you did show did you show any man reaches?

Speaker 8 (01:30:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
I mean I think we showed you could do this.
You did. Yeah, a couple of pools out on the corner.

Speaker 11 (01:30:36):
His highlights were like talking ship to a corner back
that was thirty five years old.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
Yeah, run it again. Tell her we can only run
so many toss cracks again. I don't know you get
on the corner. Sorry, I don't know how you get
on the corner. Truck get over. We're going to get
you on the tax times you have to block the
end a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
No, no, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
Not left. Yeah it all.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
I loved it perimeter playing man, it was just fun
to kind of be out there feel like an athlete
for a little bit. It was nice.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
Couple what have you seen from remember that the tie
Sambrello four I cut off. I was like, this is
how we're supposed to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
Everybody actually great on the four I know, great on
the four US.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
So we're showing some of that. We showed you on
the backside.

Speaker 11 (01:31:19):
Thanks getting vertical, you know Cincinnati stretch cut behind you
all right?

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
Yeah, you know you just I just don't call you
and tell you every time.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
You just hope you made enough.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
Showed Will Slice in the seven clinic tape clinic he
didn't think he's got to catch.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
The balls playing Slice in the seven real quick. For
the viewers that are sitting here.

Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
Just transitioning out, we were mugged up too. We were
down to the line of scrimmage and they had you know,
it was double double near a gun or week side
side and running back one flat. So you just know
is about the run of seven round we're in ot
we're trying to make We're trying to win this game. Yeah,
third down and around the sticks. Once I saw the
flat route, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna slice up under
Sam Inside, I'm trying to go through the low hip

(01:32:02):
to slice underneath the tight end. Slice it, ball hits
me in the hands, I drop it. However, third down
we're off the field. We go down, Corey Davis catches
a touchdown. We all celebrate in the corner for the boy.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
Yeah, oh the boys.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
That was crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
Yeah, that game. What you need to do, Mitch on
that clip is you need to have it on my
face he's talking, because you could just see the smile.
Will's explaining the tires that Yeah, proud, very proud.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
But we had you've heard the story of his his
recruiting trip, right.

Speaker 11 (01:32:33):
We had breakfast at the hotel and then we basically
did the deal I was thinking about. You know, we
basically negotiated that contract over breakfast me and you an agent, right, yeah,
but it just it wasn't a very big contract.

Speaker 4 (01:32:49):
That was the most the most I had in my
career though.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
Yeah, yeah, so that was bad season. You're throwing out Nichols.

Speaker 4 (01:32:56):
He was picking. Then they drafted Rashan in the first round.
I'm sitting at a bar in German Town. I'm like,
fuck me, yeah, yeah, I don't know what time it is.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
Going back to the draft, ye, and I'm sure I'll
get a very probably, Yeah, I'll get the answer we're
probably all expecting to get.

Speaker 4 (01:33:11):
When the A. J.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
Brown trade happened. Yeah, there you see the video, you
see you stand up?

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
I mean listen that that is.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
But also before as long as I'm the head coach
of this team major, I didn't want.

Speaker 11 (01:33:23):
To Obviously nobody wanted to have him walk out of there,
you know, I mean, the contractual terms weren't going to
you know. It just it didn't work out, and it's disappointing.
The thing that I am most proud of is just
still the relationship with AJ and players that I've coached,
whether it be you guys or or other players that

(01:33:43):
you know, continue to to text or check in on
or just think about when they're in the summer or
what they're doing, or their families or you see that
they're having kids. Like, I think that's that's important and
I'm glad that that's still something that that that happens, right,
there's still some sort of relationship after, you know, after

(01:34:03):
coaching them.

Speaker 4 (01:34:05):
Allegedly, there's some footage out there of Will Campbell, you
getting put on your back from we Will Campbell.

Speaker 11 (01:34:19):
Happened. I mean, I'm almost fifty, I'll be fifty, and
I don't know twelve days, ten days?

Speaker 4 (01:34:24):
Did you expect that?

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
Though? No?

Speaker 11 (01:34:26):
I just you know, I mean it was a four eye, right,
I was going into four eye and it was the
backside cut off and he got going and I caught
my foot. I didn't get my second step in the ground,
Like what am I gonna do? I back up like
well getting knocked out.

Speaker 4 (01:34:38):
I probably loved it too, Did you said that?

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
I loved it? I just was like, that was a
good rap. But I just, you know, give him a pat,
me get back on the line.

Speaker 4 (01:34:46):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
Yeah, I mean you got to get one back.

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
Yeah, you an extra heart on that next one, you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
Think, I mean, it happened it's not like the next
time we got to shave it in a little bit
pad back.

Speaker 11 (01:34:59):
It's not It's not like you know, I was fine.
I popped back up. Everybody else thought, you know what
I mean. I thought it was a bigger deal than
I did.

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
You're seeing a lesser man would have stayed down.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
I mean he had have never done that to me. Yeah,
you're right, I mean it was a good It was
a good block.

Speaker 11 (01:35:18):
He got into it, got the backhand and the stern
him and I didn't get my second stuff on the ground,
and I asked over tea kettle.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
Yeah, it was like six seven yards it was. It
was awesome to see. We need that clip.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
Have you seen it? He showed it to us, But
will showed you at the clip somebody he showed.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
You haven't seen anything.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
He has it on his phone.

Speaker 4 (01:35:39):
We haven't seen JP.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
He was probably all gassed up. I'll get him back,
don't worry.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
That's what I'm afraid.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
He was.

Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
He where's it? Will He was gas was pumped. Yes,
he's a boys. Once I get done with this little
two minutes, you're I'm Sorry'm laying it all out there, Willie,
he said. Once I get done. I gotta show you
guys a clipped. I think enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
Yeah, and he hit me over there.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
I was like, I'm gonna start to walk out, and
we're like, hey, you said you had a clip for us, Like,
oh yeah, I'm like, I don't him over How are
you trying to get it out? Man? Come in?

Speaker 11 (01:36:15):
They laid it on the line.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
They laid it on the line for me. I gotta
go on the show.

Speaker 4 (01:36:20):
You got to come on the show. Yeah, you have fun.

Speaker 12 (01:36:27):
I just wanted to.

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
Oh you don't want to? Okay, fine, we only have
for I think we.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
Stacey's got the time limit. It's time.

Speaker 4 (01:36:37):
How about try at the time we have uh, Veronica,
come on, sorry, I got I got local media. Bud light?
You know how everybody, anybody would do anything for a
bud light, an ice cold bud light. What would coach rable.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
Free shout outs?

Speaker 4 (01:36:54):
What would Coach Rabel do anything for?

Speaker 11 (01:36:59):
You can't say family, can't say family. I mean obviously
another banner up there, Like, that's what you do for
that banner? We've we've discussed this already.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
Well yeah, but.

Speaker 4 (01:37:11):
What else?

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
What else would I do?

Speaker 4 (01:37:14):
Yeah? For the banner?

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
I'm gonna work every day. I meant.

Speaker 11 (01:37:19):
Cutting off any more appendages, you know what I mean? Like,
that's that's why we're doing this, you know, other than
to provide for our families, it's to to win championships.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
Like you guys know this spiel. We've been through this.
You guys are trained. You guys are trained. Rats.

Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
Would you cut it on?

Speaker 4 (01:37:35):
He already said on the second one, he's well.

Speaker 1 (01:37:38):
Yeah, because we went to the AMC Championship.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
He said, that's it. Boys. I want an honest evaluation
of practice. What I gotta got?

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
Can I tell you something?

Speaker 11 (01:37:46):
I want an honest evaluation of practice, obviously, and if
I'm missing an ing, let me know.

Speaker 4 (01:37:52):
You know, obviously you got to create the evidence and
build the legacy and everything else. But I'm legitimately so
juiced that you were the head coach of the Patriots
just because you were a hell of a player at
Ohio State. You're a health of a player in the
league with the three betners in the three Super Bowls,
And I hope, I hope, hang on, hang on, this
one's for Jin too. I hope you take time to
just have perspective of how fucking.

Speaker 11 (01:38:13):
Cool I appreciate that I will try to stop and
smell the roses along the way. I hope you guys
come back for a game. Promise okay, promise?

Speaker 4 (01:38:22):
Can I get a Can I get ahead? St I'll
stay out of the way.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
You have stretches?

Speaker 4 (01:38:26):
Okay?

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(01:39:11):
keeping You set them up, You set it up.

Speaker 4 (01:39:14):
You slept his leg. No, okay, Drake, May, what's going on?

Speaker 12 (01:39:19):
How you doing hanging in there right?

Speaker 1 (01:39:21):
Oh dude, we're doing great, Josh Allen, vibes already off
the top. I'll be honest with you. You got a
nice little.

Speaker 4 (01:39:29):
Player.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
Give me the team keys when you're talking to the media.

Speaker 12 (01:39:33):
Talking to the media, yeah, pervorable team keys.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
Yeah in the media.

Speaker 12 (01:39:37):
Yeah, speak for myself.

Speaker 4 (01:39:39):
Yep.

Speaker 16 (01:39:40):
No talking about injuries, that's correct. Don't talking about expectations, right,
don't talk about scheme.

Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
Don't talk about scheme.

Speaker 4 (01:39:47):
Is there another one?

Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
You're on it? You seem like there was one more
all of them.

Speaker 12 (01:39:52):
No comparisons the same as kind of expectations.

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
Comparison ye, no comparison.

Speaker 4 (01:39:58):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
Do you see yourself a lot in Josh Allen? Do
you guys think you're very similar football players? Both mobile, tall,
handsome white quarterbacks.

Speaker 12 (01:40:09):
Uh, you know, he's the m v P. I think
the comparisons are.

Speaker 16 (01:40:13):
I got a lot of work to do, you know,
with kind of even give me in the same you know,
stratus sphere or atmosphere as Josh. So luckily in the division,
so we have some good matchups I was looking forward to.
But really, comparisons, I'm just trying to be myself and hey,
at the end of the day, some people think that.

Speaker 12 (01:40:30):
I mean, that's a lot of no respect for him.
But at that I got a lot of work to
do for that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
Let's pivot real quick on the sports though. I apologize
for interrupting you. Will you and Josh Allen one on
one pick up basketball? Who's winning that game?

Speaker 12 (01:40:44):
I think myself as a hooping yea and hoops for sure?

Speaker 4 (01:40:47):
Who do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
Josh Allen? The night before the draft was in a
y m c A playing pick up basketball? Did pat
tell you that we have our sources exact time?

Speaker 4 (01:40:56):
What are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
So Drake the day it was in Detroit, correct, the
day before he gets drafted first round pick by the
New England Patriots. He's at an indoor gym at a
y m c A, playing pick up basketball with a
bunch of gen pop.

Speaker 4 (01:41:13):
Just trying to get war your stats. What was your numbers?

Speaker 16 (01:41:15):
My brothers were in there, so we had some good competition.
But just get the nerves and you're going, you know,
you and the brothers will yeah, you know, kind of
being at the draft, I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
You get nervous. You get nervous, whether you get whether
you're there where the draft's happening or you're sitting at home.

Speaker 4 (01:41:30):
It doesn't matter. Yeah, I mean I was nervous. I
have nerds for three days. Disappointment.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
Was there a piece of you ever throughout? Like when
you're going to the draft process of day one hit,
you're like, what if?

Speaker 4 (01:41:41):
Though, one hundred percent, I want to say Bill Belichick
got some projected guy. He was like in the lower
rounds and he drafted him in the second round and
on the first on the first night, the Chargers called
me being like I kind of forget what the how
the conversation went, but I'm like, maybe I'm a Day
two guy.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
No ship.

Speaker 4 (01:41:59):
Then the draft, damn man. He was a great player.
Great I played longer, but he's a great player.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
Yeah he had the build though, Yeah he had stirred
on him.

Speaker 4 (01:42:10):
Sturdy.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
Were you surprised if the Patriots drafted you?

Speaker 16 (01:42:13):
I think I was just pumped, you know, kind of
the feelings you just want to get drafted somewhere. So
I was really just pumped. I think I knew there
was a chance possibly here. You know what a great
legacy this place has been, and uh hopefully were trying
to get back to that.

Speaker 4 (01:42:26):
What's the first several months been like with coach Rabel.

Speaker 12 (01:42:29):
Yeah, it's been awesome. I mean, y'all know it's uh,
it's hostile.

Speaker 4 (01:42:31):
Now, oh we know it's awesome.

Speaker 16 (01:42:34):
You gotta bring you gotta bring it and leave, he
goes at the door. I'm sure y'all and I'm sure
you check y'all a few times with personalities of y'all too.
But uh, I think you know, we watched old film
with Big Taylor's in there watching Podrill watching you over there.

Speaker 4 (01:42:48):
How was he doing?

Speaker 12 (01:42:50):
I think you may I hurt or something new know,
damn you know.

Speaker 4 (01:42:55):
And when Ray was answering the question talking about how
he had to drill up, are you and POSI you
got over leverage? I'm thinking of myself, you know. Rave
was just loving the fact that he could kind of
just body bag you in front of some mother.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
And the fact is it's like that's not for anybody else.
I know five people on this football team. That was
for Raves and Stretch.

Speaker 4 (01:43:11):
Yeah and hush yeah you kinda laugh.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
And like look at that idiot right there.

Speaker 16 (01:43:15):
No, but I saw the first pitch, dude, come on, yeah,
you kind of looked like good form, like a little
bit of Randy Johnson and this.

Speaker 4 (01:43:23):
Let it Go.

Speaker 1 (01:43:24):
Yeah, bring my showd You know, Redemption's coming really, I
don't know if we can say the date yet, but
it is this month. I'll be catching Redemption.

Speaker 12 (01:43:30):
Where was that? What game was that at the Redemption?
Another game that you just threw?

Speaker 1 (01:43:34):
Oh that was in Saint Louis. Yeah, Saint Louis and Buddy,
I'll tell you this nerves No. I was like, I'm
about to rip this. I'm about to throw this thing
high sixties. Yeah, which was good for me. And I
walked out there. Buddy was standing mere on the mountain
go just saying, no, I'm gonna rip this thing. He
was like, didn't even say a word. And then that happened,
and I was like, oh my god, I'm still in disbelief. Yea,

(01:43:57):
and I think I'm like kind of getting the yips
now too, Like I go play catch, like I'll put
a couple in Wilf's chest and then there'll be one.
Oh Buddy, I practice every day, really get I get
to the shop, we do work, and then I'm like,
come play catch with me.

Speaker 4 (01:44:10):
That's really bad, so we'll see We'll see you now.

Speaker 12 (01:44:14):
I thought about throwing curveball or something one time.

Speaker 1 (01:44:16):
First pitch.

Speaker 12 (01:44:17):
Yeah, I haven't thrown one, but if I did, I'll
throw a curveball or something.

Speaker 4 (01:44:20):
Your baseball guy growing up, Yeah, baseball guy, you have
a whole family of them.

Speaker 12 (01:44:23):
I got a bunch.

Speaker 4 (01:44:24):
I saw one story where it was like, uh, what
was it People magazine? Where your mom would make like
thirty six eggs for you guys, just be a war.

Speaker 12 (01:44:31):
We got some big dudes, some big fellows whirling around.
So a bunch of hooligans.

Speaker 1 (01:44:35):
Who's the most athletic in your family?

Speaker 12 (01:44:36):
Think probably a mom. I'm speaking from a mom.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
But you know Dad's plunging air right now.

Speaker 12 (01:44:43):
He's old and fat now.

Speaker 4 (01:44:44):
So you give it to yourself over the other brothers.

Speaker 12 (01:44:46):
Yeah, yeah, they'd say the same.

Speaker 4 (01:44:48):
They would Yeah they know what's up or they just
pounding the steering wheel right now as they listen.

Speaker 12 (01:44:53):
My brother's definitely a tune in. My brother is a
big fan of the Bust with the Boys.

Speaker 1 (01:44:57):
Patcher playing it Tians, I think, what's there? Was Pat
Collins there?

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
Yeah, he was there.

Speaker 1 (01:45:02):
We came down just to go meet his brother, just
like because he was that big of a fan of us,
and I was like, yeah, I'll go down there for sure. Absolutely,
And we met the night that night before at the
Pegle Porker.

Speaker 12 (01:45:11):
You got Troy Nunes exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:45:12):
Yeah, bring it back to Rapes. I need a pet peeve.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
What pisses you off about Mike?

Speaker 4 (01:45:19):
Or how about this?

Speaker 17 (01:45:20):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:45:20):
Uh instead of what pisses you off about Coach Rabel?
What would piss Coach Rabel off about you? Or what
would be a pet peeve of Raves that.

Speaker 12 (01:45:30):
He has of you not celebrating after rescore?

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
They did go viral, didn't.

Speaker 16 (01:45:35):
Yeah, he just I agree. I mean it's hard to
get in the end zone. Yeah, I think you saw
the club. We didn't score enough of them last year. So, uh,
just getting excited. I think it's there's so much mental
game going on the game. He practice playing QB, So
just getting excited when do something good. That's tough, you know,
I think I need to do a bad job of that.

Speaker 4 (01:45:53):
We'll go through your brain when.

Speaker 16 (01:45:55):
Simulate, you know, in practice, when it's actually a real
touchdown the game. You know, it's easy to run down
there with the boys, but you know the old lines
gotta run down there, like oh I got run fifteen
yards back?

Speaker 1 (01:46:04):
Yeah, boys cruising.

Speaker 4 (01:46:06):
Over there exactly celebrating after touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
Yeah, I saw you throw a few touchdowns today in
the red zone, and I didn't see you running to
the endsine and celebrate.

Speaker 12 (01:46:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:46:16):
So is that a coachable coachability thing or is that
just hey, we're in this is not a team period.

Speaker 12 (01:46:21):
No, it was one on one.

Speaker 16 (01:46:24):
I think he still get some excitement for sure. What's
what were the things that y'all did back in the
day he got mad at Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:46:30):
Got mad at me? Probably just being on social media. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
he'd bring up posts every now and then. Yeah, there
was one time where it was like Darren Bates was
injured and so he was sitting out of walkthrough and
in my brain he was just getting one over. I'm like, oh,
you're just You're just want to chill like you ain't

(01:46:50):
in that bad of shape. So I bought this neck
brace on Amazon and then I like took a video
because he had like the yellow jersey and I'm telling him, Hey,
throw this on this boy, the neck brace, and we're
kind of busting his balls in the locker room and
I'm videoing it. I put it up on social and
he texted me later that night and he's like, you
think this was smart? And dude, fear just filled the

(01:47:12):
entire part of my body. And so I'm sitting there
looking on how I should respond back to Vrabel kind
of like is he kind of messing with me? Should
I like send a joke back because we all know
he's playing like it's all good? And he put it
up in the TV the next day. My asshole was
was tight. My asshole was tight.

Speaker 1 (01:47:26):
You walk in that TV room, it's really the first
one when you come back for OTAs because everyone's kind
of done their thing. Maybe he posted something in January.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
He knows.

Speaker 1 (01:47:35):
John Striker knows, and he will show Mike rab Yeah
he's not he is on it. He has dialed in.

Speaker 4 (01:47:42):
I think, yeah, he's the OP.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
I don't think you understand how much of a win
it is for you guys to have stretch on this
team just yet, like you guys will realize how big
of a win it is to have. But he's definitely
the OP. I had a time Bill O'Brien got fired
from Houston and I was commenting on how I was
like fired up about him getting fired, and Rave's like
called me and chewed me out for like five minutes

(01:48:04):
about how disrespectful that is, and I don't know Bill
and all this stuff, and that was walking in the
next day was very difficult. It was it was scary.
But I saw him the next day he like pat
me on the ass and walking down the hallway. So
he's kind of always doing this and you just don't
really know what to do.

Speaker 4 (01:48:18):
He bullies you until he knows you're broken a little bit. Yeah, yeah,
and kind of stepping on egg walking on eggshells, and
then that's when he buddies you up and he's like,
why don't you laugh? And it's a joke.

Speaker 12 (01:48:27):
It's like, well he was.

Speaker 1 (01:48:28):
He was sitting here with us before y'all's practice, being like,
you know it is. They don't know that I'm joking
yet and stuff like that. So you know, I'll tell him, Hey,
if it's funny, you can laugh in the team meeting room.
I'm thinking, we're still there. We've known you since twenty eighteen.
We're still liked there. We have That's how Ravee likes me.

Speaker 12 (01:48:46):
I saw the clip of you y'all about to fight
in the bus. You like your chances, you.

Speaker 4 (01:48:50):
Think against Rabe. Yeah, I don't know. I got too
much respect to think that I could take him. It's
almost like gesture yeah. And then he's a little and
it's kind of like he's just got the power dynamic
of father's son, you know what I mean. It's like, hey, Will,
do you think you can whoop your old man? It's
like you just don't. You don't really go there mentally.
And then when he bulkes up, it's kind of like

(01:49:10):
he's a long he's a specimen. Hands to scratch his
knees a.

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
Little bit, saying saying, Rabes is your daddy right now.

Speaker 4 (01:49:17):
I'm saying he's got that's the type of respect that
I have for him as a father. Yeah, yeah, Like
I see him as like a father figure. Yeah yeah.
You know, we swapped text in the off season. He
checks on the family and stuff, and he's like a
mental mind.

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:31):
So I just appreciate him, you know what I mean?
When he up, like, you know, hey, don't get sensitive
on me, braves, like.

Speaker 1 (01:49:39):
Two of you. He likes Will a lot more than me. Yeah,
he like I. He I think he definitely views me
as like he coached me really hard when he got there,
and I was like he'll lighten up eventually, and it
never really happened, and then I like got cut eventually
and it's kind of just not stopped.

Speaker 12 (01:49:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:49:56):
Will was like they.

Speaker 1 (01:49:58):
Brought Will in he was doing the core for he
was like a light and did the Rabel thing and
that went over really well. And then once Will was
out of the building, Rabel was like, that's my guy. Yeah,
I'm I'm Will's buddy, but that Will's Rabe's friend. Does
that make sense?

Speaker 4 (01:50:16):
Taylor was an asset that they needed to produce at
the highest level at all times, so when he get injured,
I'm sure that kind of plays into the psyche of
what his view was of Taylor, Like I'm an asset,
but I'm more of an asset like, uh, you know,
like one of those uh what was a gester?

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
You know, first off gestures the people that would entertain
the king.

Speaker 4 (01:50:37):
What's the animal that you keep and they just like
give you good vibes, are there for you, golden retriever,
no support, emotional sporting. Yeah, Like my asset ability was
like being the support animal in the locker room.

Speaker 1 (01:50:50):
Yeah. And Will, you know, just Will was a locker
room guy, so Ravees would always be like, we're gonna
hold her high, our best players to the highest standard
or whatever. That's like his phrase. He always and he
would call me in his office, Hey, what's up, Braves.
I'm trying to be buddies, Always trying to be buddies. No,
he'd be like, coming here real quick, and he pulled
up some film. We just sit in silence for a
little bit while he play some couple of plays of

(01:51:11):
me like not doing videos. We hold our best players
to the highest standard. Correct, yes, sir? Is that the
highest standard?

Speaker 2 (01:51:19):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:51:19):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:51:20):
I need you to play better next week? Yeah, okay.
And there be games too, I like walk away from games.
We're like, bro, I that was a game. I kind
of have myself a little. I think, have like four
or five plays if I really put that guy in
the dirt, that was good in protection blah blah blah.
I felt good about it. And as I'm like truly
feeling good about myself, I'm getting a text from Braves
be like, need you to be better next week? And
it was always it was.

Speaker 4 (01:51:40):
Always that Will.

Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
I would I would sit over and watch Will and
Raves be like, how the fuck do I get to that.

Speaker 4 (01:51:46):
Just had to get a couple tackles on special teams,
slice of second a game or something. Because when he
said here.

Speaker 1 (01:51:52):
I was like, hey, man, you showing some man reaches.
He's liked, should you getting overextended on on on a
play action? Some clips just killing me.

Speaker 4 (01:52:00):
That's kind of the difference in dynamic. But this is
about this podcast. You're doing very well and asking questions
about us. Now we're getting the fume more time of
them than I have. Take us through the process last
year being thrown into the fire, because on the outside,
it seemed like when you got drafted you were going
to be somebody who was kind of like maybe groomed
in on the sideline throughout the season. Then the season
was going the way it was. You had coach Mayo,

(01:52:22):
he was he was in his first year, and then
you kind of get thrust in and thrown into the fire.
Was that something that you expected or what was the
learning curve as that decision? Uh was made?

Speaker 17 (01:52:33):
No?

Speaker 16 (01:52:33):
I think you know, we had the Texans here at home,
so it was a good in front of home crowd
get thrown into the fire. I think it's something that
they're like, man, let's see what I got. I think
it's uh, you got there and you see the Neil Hunter,
will Anderson, you know when you go out there in
the first drive and you're like, it's the NFL.

Speaker 12 (01:52:49):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:52:50):
Specimens, especially Hunter dude.

Speaker 12 (01:52:54):
Yeah, good guys.

Speaker 16 (01:52:56):
So I think, you know, from there, I think there's
ultimate confidence. I think that's what I think. You kind
of appreciate yourself. You do all that practice, to all
this training camp, go out there and just a lot
of bullets, see what you see what you got, and
you know, I think, you know, the biggest thing is
these guys we still played hard. You know, I think
we uh, you know, we were in some close games
and you know, season didn't go with the way we wanted,
but these guys fought hard. I think, especially those guys
up front, they fought for me hard. And you know,

(01:53:18):
the least I do was get back and go out
there and compete and you'll leave it all out there.
So that's my approach to it, and it's not gonna change.

Speaker 4 (01:53:25):
Was there ever a moment of discouragement during your rookie year, Like,
as you guys are out there and you're performing, whether
up to your standard or not.

Speaker 16 (01:53:34):
You know, once you really hit and I think kind of,
you know, ten losses in the season, you know it's tough.
You got there, and you're out there playing. You probably
know in the back of your mind you're not gonna
make the playoffs. You're out there playing a you know,
a gruesome game, and you're out there just battling. And
I think that's really what you kind of finding these
guys like who can I really go to war with?
And I think that's what, you know, I was trying

(01:53:55):
to approach it myself, like these guys are gonna see
me am I still competing hard and you know, scrambling
around and trying to make plays or just gonna throw
it in the dirt and keep back up and punt.
And so I think that's kind of is what I
kind of used last year as you obviously want to
you know, win you know, more games this year, and
that's our playing. So I think everybody feels good now.
So it's it's going into week one to see, you know,

(01:54:17):
when the real bullets go times.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
Remember that rookie wall. When you're sitting there in the
middle of November possibly like walking into December, you know
you're out of the playoffs. Like you say, you're you know,
ten losses, you're probably not gonna pay the playoffs, Like
you will not make the playoffs with ten losses. And
you see these guys, you know, you're twenty one years old.
You got these guys that are in their thirties they
kind of know. So you see guys kind of talking
about Cobbosa and Lucas. All of a sudden, I'm gonna

(01:54:40):
go over here. What are we doing for a vacation?
Like what was that like from you from like a
just a going from college to NFL.

Speaker 12 (01:54:46):
No, No, it's different.

Speaker 16 (01:54:46):
I think even the first thing I know is these
guys got families. You know, it's not the locker room
in college where you're hanging out and going back to
someone's place and you know, watching football. Yeah, I think
stuff like that. It's more like you like your families
and you leave here. And like I said, that rookie
Wall kind of after you know, after the bowl season,
you go straight to training and then you go straight
to the draft preps. So it's a long year, long
years of these rookies. That's what I'm telling these guys

(01:55:09):
on our team. You know, will cambell those guys it's
a long year, and I think you know, from there,
you give up here to Boston. Never been up here
in the north, and you get out of our meetings
at at five o'clock and next thing you know, it's
dark outside and it's fifteen. I think I had a
whole different element of the morbidness up here of the winners.
So I think that's really really right around your teammates
and you know, when you are in the building, try

(01:55:29):
to make it as you know, enjoyable as you can.
And I think definitely you see guys not like you said,
not checking out, but no one kind of what's what's
in the end and kind of the light the end
of the tunnel is not you know, looking you know
too bright. I think you can see that in the NFL,
which is you know credit then you guys want to
you have you know, longevity in the years and you
know credit their bodies and you know, you can see

(01:55:50):
injuries is a big part of the game. So there's
two sides too, but hopefully not in that situation.

Speaker 1 (01:55:54):
Yeah, when you got like your routine and your first
year and you hit the wall and everything like that,
what are some changes you making for yourself? And you're
in your daily routine during the football season.

Speaker 12 (01:56:03):
Yeah, I that's a great question, you know.

Speaker 16 (01:56:05):
I think Drakoby set was someone great for me to
learn from, you know, a veteran this league, playing a
bunch of different offenses. He's the man, you know, just
hanging out outside. We should go to dinner. I think
it's different. I got my wife up here now in
the season, so it'll be different having her up here.
But really just it's about ball. I think, trying to change,
trying to find what's work, kind of find a rhythm
throughout the weeks and hopefully if you you know, get

(01:56:27):
w in the wing column, just try to repeat it.
And if not, you gotta change something wet or study more,
get with the guys more, do something different.

Speaker 4 (01:56:34):
I have one more question for you, and I want
to take you back to college your senior year. You're
Drake may Hey. Is he gonna go first? Overall? This
kid's a specimen. He's this He's that you start off
seven and oh eight to o ranked ten in the country.
Is this Drake may kid? Is he about it? And
then Virginia and Georgia Tech happened? What the fuck happened

(01:56:56):
against Virginia and Georgia Tech.

Speaker 12 (01:56:58):
Those the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:56:59):
This was the kind of question as you're getting a
bus with a boy jobs right there.

Speaker 16 (01:57:03):
No, I think it was it was tough. I think
we twice two years in a row. My last two
years two years I played, we lost to Georgia Tech
at home. We ranked tenth in the country. We were
like nine and one, and then we lost to Virginia
That next year we were like maybe seven or eight
in the country at home. Yeah, I think it's uh
fucking Christ, there's kind of story. No con football, really,

(01:57:23):
you know when I was there, we just couldn't find
a way to get over the hump kind of get
into that next category of of wins and being that
next kind of division of respect you know, around the
country for our football program.

Speaker 12 (01:57:33):
And I really think it was just unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (01:57:36):
This is my last question. What was your welcome to
the NFL moment? If you got to go to the thing,
if it goes you to.

Speaker 16 (01:57:42):
Be fast, I think the Neil Hunter. I think we
came out of halftime. I just threw a touchdown. My
first touchdown was fourteen to seven, and were getting empty
and yeah, I get stripsacked to start off the half,
the first play, and then from there it was kind
of like, you know, holding the ball in this league,
you gotta get rid of it.

Speaker 4 (01:57:56):
So get rid of it.

Speaker 1 (01:57:57):
Doude appreciate your time. Thank you so much. Yeah, I
appreciate you.

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Speaker 14 (01:58:48):
Come on, I appreciate you guys having me on.

Speaker 2 (01:58:50):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:58:51):
Absolutely welcome the busting with the boys I am personally
fired up. I know Taylor's fired up as well. But
just as an undrafted linebacker, you were a rookie mini
camp tryout, like the gutter, the gutter of gutters. Rabe
was kind of saying too, he's like the meatia camp
trial guys like you just have them there to be

(01:59:13):
bodies for the people you bring in, the draft picks
you bring in, the other preferred undrafted free agents that
you bring in. You weren't one of those. You got
what an offer coming out of.

Speaker 14 (01:59:25):
Where'd you go to College Wan, to Western Michigan.

Speaker 4 (01:59:27):
To Western Michigan, Bro, and now all the way to
just signing a three year, thirty three million dollar deal
to be with the Patriots, a second stint with coach Rabel.
We're fucking proud of you, bro Stoked.

Speaker 17 (01:59:42):
Definitely come a long way. Hasn't been easy, a lot
of trials and tribulations. You know, when you start as
an undrafted player, they look at you as an undrafted
player for the remainder of your career. So I still
have that chip on my shoulder every day I go
out there, I tell myself you're undrafted. You know it's
time to go earn it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:59):
When did you think I think you had Obviously you
can tell you love ball, and we tell the story,
told the story in the podcast multiple times of us
sitting after I think it was Pittsburgh reception interception had
like seven eight, maybe even ten tackles and you're kind
of walking by and we're like chopping it up in
the corner a little. We're a little banged up, and
I'm like, hey, man, kind of did your think out there?
And you kind of get a little nervous. You're like,

(02:00:19):
I love football and you kind of just kept it
moving and it's like we joked and laughed about it,
but like, brother, that those are the guys that make it,
the dudes that sit there, and they're like, you have
to truly love playing this game to be put in
the position you were in the NFL and now to
be sitting where you are now. But at what point
was it that rookie mini camp? Was it after your
first year? When were you like, oh, I can I

(02:00:40):
think I can actually play in the NFL.

Speaker 17 (02:00:42):
I think our first practice as a team when I
got the veterans in there after Rookie Mini Camp, and
I saw what the NFL was. I knew I had
a chance to make it. I had that internal confidence
right away that I am undrafted. I'm the ninth man
on the roster of the ninetieth overall, the ninth in
the linebacker corps, and I feel like I can make
myself good enough to be good in this league one day.

Speaker 4 (02:01:04):
But you get cut. Then you go and practice squad,
you get cut, I believe in October if I remember right,
and then you end up signing with Pittsburgh in the
next February, like after the season's over. You so you're
you know, technically the saying is, you're on your couch
for the rest of the season. Did doubt ever creep
in your mind?

Speaker 17 (02:01:25):
Yeah, it's hard. It's hard when you get cut and
you spend four months at home. You go out to
la for a tryout, they send you home without giving
you a call back. You go out to Denver for
a tryout, they send you home without getting a call back.
Go out to Pittsburgh for a tryout, and just as
we're walking on the field with six inside linebackers, they

(02:01:48):
sign one of them. They take one of them upstairs
and say we're gonna sign you in front of everybody.
So I go out for the tryout, i'd leave without
a call. I in turn, decided to give them a
call back and give them a peace of my mind
and say, why the fuck did you bring me out here?
What was the fucking point of bringing me out here
if you already had your mind made up? And it
was that energy, that fire that they saw on me.

(02:02:10):
And two days later they gave me an opportunity.

Speaker 1 (02:02:12):
What are they seeing on the phone so you call them, hey,
patch me into Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 17 (02:02:17):
It wasn't Mike Tomlin. It was uh, Kevin Colbert's son,
the head, one of the head scouts that invited me
to the tryout originally, and he called me or I
called him after the tryout, saying, what was the point
of you bringing out here? We just talked on the
phone before I got out here. You want to give
me an opportunity? And I felt like that's bullshit. You
guys signed a guy without even giving me a shot,

(02:02:39):
and uh, he just oh, yeah, we're gonna We're still
looking at you. We're still looking at you. I'm like, yeah, bullshit.

Speaker 14 (02:02:46):
Whatever.

Speaker 17 (02:02:46):
Didn't expect to hear anything back from them. Two days later,
they gave me an opportunity to come in for a
ninety man roster spot and kind of worked my way
through practice squad, through special teams, and then got my
opportunity to play defense when Devin Bush went on.

Speaker 4 (02:03:02):
That when you decided to call them and give him
a piece of your mind, is it like your frustration
was that an all time high when you're going out
and doing tryouts, because me like doubt, doubt being the
wrong word, more of like discouraged that you're putting in
all this work, You're persevering, you're staying resilient, you believe
in yourself. Did it just get to a point where
it's like, I gotta I gotta figure out why this

(02:03:23):
isn't happening.

Speaker 17 (02:03:24):
Yeah, without a doubt, I wanted answers. I wanted I
felt like I was wronged. I felt like I had
the ability and the capabilities to one day be a
successful player in this league. So it really bothered me
that I wasn't getting that opportunity. And I honestly believe
if I didn't have that chip on my shoulder, I
wouldn't be here today.

Speaker 1 (02:03:42):
Yeah, when you when you go to the Steelers, you
get on the ninety man roster put the dark visor on.
By the way, that was a nice touch. Was very nice.
Headaches head, Yeah, that's what it's all about. Um, you
go play the Titans again and there's a goal line
stand and a lot of people. I believe there's a
there's another reporter. He's on ESPN. He talks about him

(02:04:05):
and Dereck Henry in the whole He's taking Dereck Henry
all and everyone always argues about it, but you actually
stood Derek's ass up to Derek. We love Derek on
the show, but handled business was that like you're coming
You're coming out moment for sure.

Speaker 17 (02:04:18):
My first career start against the team that cut me
two years prior. Anytime you step on the field with
King Henry, you have to give him respect and you
have to bring it all. If you take a slight
uh second of the playoff, he's scoring a touchdown. So
I knew at that moment that it it had to
be there on the goal line with the team that

(02:04:39):
cut me two years prior. All that worked up inside
me and I was able to make a nice play
on the goal line.

Speaker 4 (02:04:46):
There.

Speaker 17 (02:04:47):
Yeah, I felt the excitement from everybody in the stands,
my whole family took a bus from Chicago to the game.

Speaker 4 (02:04:53):
Oh, that's awesome.

Speaker 17 (02:04:54):
I had a lot of friends on the Tennessee Titans
still at that point that showed me love after the.

Speaker 14 (02:05:01):
Game, So it was really a special moment for me.

Speaker 4 (02:05:03):
You put your face in the fan, did you feel
it like as you're getting up to celebrate.

Speaker 14 (02:05:06):
I definitely lost a few years of my life in
that moment.

Speaker 4 (02:05:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (02:05:11):
I definitely gave the Good Lord a few years.

Speaker 4 (02:05:14):
Of my life.

Speaker 17 (02:05:16):
You have a did you feel it like, do you
have a sting or anything like that? Yeah, they call
it a stinger. But when you can't feel half your
body and you're like, no, ship. I came off the field.
Cam Hayward rips me off the ground. He's like, oh,
spill sleep and get off the field. So I run
off the field and obviously you don't want to be

(02:05:36):
wobbling coming off the field.

Speaker 14 (02:05:38):
So I'm like, oh, my shoulder sore, my shoulder.

Speaker 2 (02:05:40):
Man.

Speaker 14 (02:05:41):
I guess that's all part of playing in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (02:05:47):
So when you go to as you're going through the Steelers,
you get cut, you going practice squad, you get cut
again early in the year, you get brought back, brought
back the next week. Then when Devin Bush goes down
with an a c L and you get your number calls,
and then that game, I think you go on you
have like you have a few good plays, and that
next week, Tomlin's in the in the press conference saying

(02:06:07):
that you're going to be the starter. Take us through,
take us through that process. And what that meant to
hear knowing that coach Tomlin and the Steelers had that
trust in you to continue to be the starter.

Speaker 17 (02:06:17):
Yeah, knowing that they had that trust in me, it
was all I needed to go out there and succeed.
Knowing I had the trust of the ten people around me.
It's a very safe spot when you're in the middle
linebacker of these defenses. You got ten killers all around you.
So it seems very chaotic and a lot going on,
But for me, that's like where I feel the most
calm and Uh. Having the confidence of the players and

(02:06:39):
the coaches in that organization meant everything to me to
go out there and succeed.

Speaker 1 (02:06:42):
How they break the news, cheat, they call you in
the office, they play a trick on you, or anything.

Speaker 17 (02:06:45):
Yeah, Tomlin called me in and he said it's time
to start living like a pro we need to get
you some new outfits. We need to get you a
new car. You're you're a starting middle linebacker, so you
need to come in looking like it, playing like it.
So it was kind of a fun moment for me
and uh something and I'll never forget.

Speaker 1 (02:07:00):
Did you listen, You'll get yourself next to you get
a new car?

Speaker 17 (02:07:04):
No, I did, and that's probably why they didn't keep
me around too much longer.

Speaker 4 (02:07:08):
So then you went on, you signed a free agency
with the Raiders. Did Pittsburgh not want you back? Uh?

Speaker 14 (02:07:15):
No, they they didn't.

Speaker 17 (02:07:17):
And it hurts to say that, and it it hurts
the feel like that because you felt like you great,
You made all these great connections, You felt like you
poured your heart on the line, You felt like you
did everything to be a good team player. But at
the end of the day, this is the business and
they don't always want you back, and uh it hurts,
and it hurts, and it adds to that chip on

(02:07:37):
the shoulder. But that's all I could do at that
point was to go out to Vegas, my one opportunity
no one else was calling, and go out there and ball.

Speaker 4 (02:07:46):
So who else was in the conversation when you were
negotiating as a free agent ended up with the Raiders.

Speaker 14 (02:07:52):
It was the Raiders.

Speaker 4 (02:07:52):
It was just the Raid the Raiders. So when you
were going into free agency, what were those conversations like
in your exit meetings with the Steelers, Like, as you're inner, Yeah,
before I.

Speaker 17 (02:08:02):
Went into free agency, they told me go out test
the market, see what you get. We're going to offer
whatever they give you, and we want to make you
a Steeler.

Speaker 14 (02:08:09):
We love you.

Speaker 4 (02:08:10):
In your brain, you're like, this is where I want.

Speaker 17 (02:08:12):
So I called him, Oh I got an offer from
the Steeler or from the Raiders, like I want to
come back, what's the deal? And they're like, oh, good luck,
have fun. So really that's how it happened. And obviously
at the time you're sick, you're moving across the country,
but at the same time you're so happy because somebody
believes in you, and that's all you really need, Like

(02:08:33):
to have Patrick Graham out there, to have Josh McDaniels
out there, believe Antonio Pierce believing in me as the
player and as a person. That's what gives me confidence
to go out there and do what I do best.

Speaker 1 (02:08:44):
What was it like when so was it March when
I saw you at UFC. Yeah, yeah, and I explaining
like walks by me. We kind of like I don't
I'm just kind of walking and he kind of like
he's gy could you see you?

Speaker 4 (02:08:55):
Man?

Speaker 1 (02:08:55):
Like maybe goes I'm gonna be a Patriot and just
kind of books it out of there. I was like,
just you see, just beaming, absolutely being back. When Braves
calls you, were you just so fired up about the
full circle moment? Was he the one that called you
or the gym called you?

Speaker 4 (02:09:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (02:09:10):
They offered the deal once free agency opened. Uh, And
I knew I wanted to be a Patriot. I knew
I wanted to get back with coach Rabel. I knew
what type of person he is willing to lay his
life on the line for his players. And Uh, it's
just an organization that you want to be a part of.
It's a historic organization and a new emerging team with
a lot of new pieces, and it seemed like a

(02:09:31):
really good opportunity for me and my family.

Speaker 1 (02:09:33):
How does it feel for you when you walk out
and do a scrimmage last Friday and you see all
six of those banners standing up there in the stadium.

Speaker 17 (02:09:40):
Yeah, it's it's uh, it's pressure. But at the end
of the day, that's why we come out here. That's
why we love doing what we're doing. We love when
these these stadiums are filled out, sold out, rocking, loud
and excitement, and uh, we're gonna have a lot of
that this year. And I can't wait to see what
Pat's Nation is all about.

Speaker 4 (02:09:58):
Uh, your second stadium. Free agency. Same kind of question,
like when it was coming to a name with the Raiders,
Like who is in the market for you before you
ultimately decided on the Patriots? Like were the Raiders winning
you bat?

Speaker 1 (02:10:10):
Uh?

Speaker 14 (02:10:11):
Not not really?

Speaker 4 (02:10:13):
God damn Yeah, And I feel like, uh giving it
Max Cross.

Speaker 17 (02:10:20):
You're gonna have to ask Max because he went on
the podcast and he said, you know, he's been in
the office with the GM every day in the off season,
So I don't know what happened where.

Speaker 14 (02:10:30):
The love loss was there. But at the end of
the day, I have this.

Speaker 17 (02:10:35):
Opportunity here and I'm gonna do with everything I can
to be a good teammate here and perform for the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (02:10:42):
Were there any other teams that were fighting for you
before you decided here?

Speaker 1 (02:10:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:10:45):
There was? Are you able to do you want to
hear about it.

Speaker 1 (02:10:49):
So this is a podcast we do. We like, we
like talking people.

Speaker 4 (02:10:54):
This isn't like this isn't like a professional ESPN sit down.

Speaker 17 (02:10:57):
Yeah, I mean there was a team in the West Coast.
There was a team that I had recently played for
and won in the Mountains, and uh uh, they all
showed a big interest and we're excited.

Speaker 1 (02:11:13):
So Denver Chargers Titans close.

Speaker 14 (02:11:16):
It's very close. It's very close.

Speaker 1 (02:11:19):
Yes, and it was the Rams.

Speaker 14 (02:11:22):
Uh yeah, well well we'll just say that's that was close.
That was very close.

Speaker 17 (02:11:27):
New England said and showed me that they wanted me
to come out here. It was a done deal. I
wanted to be here. Out of the four teams that
were offering, I wanted to be part of the Patriots.
So I'm glad that we got it done here and
I'm excited to go out and perform.

Speaker 1 (02:11:42):
You know, Splain we're asking these questions. Everything we've asked
so far as harmless. But he's thinking himself, what's that
team meeting going to look like when this podcast comes out?
And Braves goes plain, we're not paying you enough?

Speaker 4 (02:11:53):
Mean what you want to be here?

Speaker 17 (02:11:55):
No, I'm so excited and glad to be here. And
and we we got a young team. A lot of
free agents joined the team this year, so it's gonna
look a lot different than last year. And we're just
gonna go out and uh, continue to work.

Speaker 15 (02:12:09):
What do you.

Speaker 17 (02:12:12):
Do?

Speaker 4 (02:12:13):
My best to ask question where you just won't give
a bullshit answer? Are they all bulls?

Speaker 1 (02:12:18):
Answer?

Speaker 17 (02:12:19):
No, I don't want to say something stupid, no doubt.
I am not a trained podcaster.

Speaker 1 (02:12:30):
So you, uh, you have to play the Steelers and
the Raiders, two teams to have elite pass rushers. What
are similarities and some differences you see between t J
Watt and Max Crosby.

Speaker 17 (02:12:42):
Yeah, two of the best in the league. Obviously, as
you can see those contracts, those boys are living right.
They are working hard. Uh, TJ is dominant, both on
the left side of the ball. Both have the freedom
to do whatever they want on a play. You know,
if you have a non dominant edge rusher, you tell
him set the edge. If you have Max and TJ,

(02:13:03):
you tell him do whatever the hell you want because
we know you're gonna make a play. So playing behind
those guys h has let me learn how to play
behind people that like to swim gaps, like to find
the ball. I think TJ has done a great job
forced fumbles interceptions. Max has the best motor in the NFL,
so he is unblockable for ninety snaps out of the game,

(02:13:26):
which is unheard of.

Speaker 4 (02:13:27):
From the end, I love it, Bobby, We're getting we're
getting the wrap up signal. But dude, again, so proud
of you. I think you are a fucking awesome example
front drafted guys, being a rookie, meedy camp trial guy
to get all the way into your third contract, which
is massive, especially at the linebacker spot man. And I
wish you well this year, bro, stay healthy.

Speaker 14 (02:13:47):
Yeah, thanks for having me on. I appreciate love you guys,
Thank you guys.

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let's get let's get into this. That outfit. This you're
you're obviously rocking something special. What is the what's the
reason for this?

Speaker 6 (02:15:15):
Uh so, originally there was function behind it. So six
years ago I played Miami. Yeah, you know, it's ninety
five degrees feels like one hundred and two but the
ends of this don't get wet. Yeah, when it's like
flowing through, it'll sweat up here, but the whole shirt
won't get wet, so I can dry my fingers and
then every training camp now I just do it.

Speaker 1 (02:15:32):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (02:15:32):
Yeah, So originally the West function. Now it's pure style. Yeah,
because it's like eighty two outside.

Speaker 1 (02:15:37):
How crazy is it going from a place in Miami
to New England. And then you're probably in the stream
game and you hear one guy whispered, man, it's fucking
hot out here today, and you're like, what are you
talking about? You have no idea?

Speaker 6 (02:15:47):
Literally, the guy's like it was like ninety three the
other day. Dude's like like, yeah, I don't know if
I can go. I'm like, what are you talking about?
This is like if we got a ninety three degree
day in Miami. Everybody was smile here to ear I
this is simple.

Speaker 4 (02:15:59):
It's gorgeous out here.

Speaker 6 (02:16:00):
Yeah, it's super nice. Like y'all haven't even changed your
cleats because they're soaking water through yet.

Speaker 1 (02:16:04):
Right certain start of walking up the field and your
feet a little squish.

Speaker 4 (02:16:08):
Yeah that's okay, we had a hot day.

Speaker 1 (02:16:11):
Yeah, how's it how's the process been with with Mike
and the culture and everything here in New England.

Speaker 6 (02:16:18):
It's been good. I think one of the biggest things.
And I've been kind of in that New England style
system of like work and get shit done. And I
love that type of ship, like the guy who works
hard gets rewarded. But having Mike who has also played
so he understands, Like when he says some shit, it's like, Okay,
he's actually probably done it. He's done some of the
ship that he's telling.

Speaker 2 (02:16:36):
Us to do, so it works out.

Speaker 6 (02:16:38):
It's okay, cool. I can I can hear where he's
coming from because he could pull up some tape with
him actually doing it. He's not just talking out his ass.

Speaker 1 (02:16:44):
Yeah, it's gramy as hell, but he he did do
it for fourteen years. How many times has he mentioned
that he's played fourteen years in the NFL and team meetings.

Speaker 6 (02:16:52):
Team meetings, I don't know. When he comes in the
receiver room, it's straight to the touchdowns. It's like ten
for ten or twelve or twelve whatever it is. Yeah,
even I can do it.

Speaker 1 (02:17:00):
Sort of the Titans this he was AJ's first year.
He put up all the receivers and their stats from
the year before, and it was like, I think all
of them had like maybe total eleven and then his
was twelve or twelve twelve touchdowns.

Speaker 4 (02:17:14):
He like he out paid them. Was it until I
want to say it was in the middle of the
second time around that I was there, like twenty twenty. Yeah,
when the room finally passed them in touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (02:17:25):
Which is it was something that was that was a
team that's big for the big game around?

Speaker 4 (02:17:31):
How big? Well? How how finally do you look back
on your last year with the Buffalo. It seemed like
you had a lot of fun. I feel like you
were in the headlines a lot more. Obviously you've talked
to You've spoken about your feet at length, but it
seemed like you guys had a really fun locker room
in Buffalo.

Speaker 6 (02:17:45):
Yeah, for sure, I had a lot of fun. The
guys were great.

Speaker 11 (02:17:48):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (02:17:48):
Anybody who's played their kind of nose, that's really all
there is is ball and city loves you, and if
you work hard, it like kind of turns over you're
winning games. And when you're winning games, freaking no matter
where you're at, it's freaking great.

Speaker 1 (02:17:59):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (02:18:00):
So, yeah, I had a great time there, and I
was able to be barefoot in wild and yeah, they
just embraced it, and like people started wearing no shoes
in the snow and I was like, hey, I'm not
liable for any of that shit.

Speaker 1 (02:18:10):
Yeah, are you going no shoes in the snow?

Speaker 2 (02:18:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (02:18:12):
On the on the walk in Yeah, walking no matter
what the temperature is, I'm going barefoot. But if it
gets blowed thirty five, grounding.

Speaker 2 (02:18:19):
It's just I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:18:21):
I think the word I guess people use would be
the passification of America. People are so soft now, like,
bro do something hard for once. It's not even hard
to wear no shoes, but like if it gets blowed
thirty five, I'm not an idiot, like I'll put shoes on,
but walking into games, no matter what.

Speaker 2 (02:18:34):
I have to be barefoot.

Speaker 6 (02:18:36):
How long you've been doing this for walking in the games?
Probably three four years? Yeah, So I got hurt seven
years ago. Started training barefoot. Found these guys in Australia
called m MT. They trained, they showed up to Philly.
I flew them out freaking barefoot off the plane. I'm like,
the fuck you doing same way, y'all look at me.
That's how I looked at them, started training with them,
and then like three four years ago, I was like,

(02:18:58):
what's the point of the shoes?

Speaker 15 (02:18:59):
Now?

Speaker 6 (02:18:59):
I just don't pay Other than bathrooms and airports, is
the only time I were shoes.

Speaker 1 (02:19:03):
Really, So you you obviously go into a restaurant, they're
excuse me, sir.

Speaker 6 (02:19:05):
If I'm by myself like this, and if they kicked
me out, so be it. But if I'm with the group,
I'm gonna wear shoes like I'm not gonna screw thele Yeah,
but by myself I'll get kicked out of places all
the time.

Speaker 4 (02:19:21):
You probably have to be so thankful you found this
you found this group in Australia.

Speaker 2 (02:19:24):
Yeah you did.

Speaker 14 (02:19:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:19:25):
I mean I was like about to retire, Like I
couldn't walk for a year, like just came off the
Super Bowl, just won a Super Bowl and then for
six eight months couldn't walk. I was like, yo, I
just was at the peak too, I can't do anything.

Speaker 4 (02:19:37):
What was the injury again?

Speaker 11 (02:19:38):
Grind?

Speaker 6 (02:19:38):
So I had a grind had surgery three months later
toward the other side, had surgery again and like couldn't walk,
couldn't get back from it, and.

Speaker 1 (02:19:45):
What was these Australians, these barefoot Australians, what is the
method behind?

Speaker 6 (02:19:50):
So they called Melbourne muscular therapy. So muscular therapy is
like their main thing body work. But then they also
do so I was doing whim hof stuff. I was
doing like breathing exercise, eye gazing, where you like sit
interests from each other and stare in each other eyes.

Speaker 4 (02:20:02):
Literally.

Speaker 6 (02:20:02):
The first thing they did when they got to my house,
they blindfolded me, picked me up on their shoulders to
start carrying around the neighborhood. And this is like Philly
and our season is not going too hot at the time,
So now they see my weird ass doing this, and
I'm like, what's going on? And they're like, we just
want you to know that no matter what, like we
got you. And at that point I was like, whatever,
I'm about to retire, I'll do whatever y'all say. And
then within like three months, I was back running again.

(02:20:24):
And you know when you get hurt and you all
of a sudden get that like, oh I might be
able to do this again. Yeah, it freaking change everything.

Speaker 1 (02:20:31):
Everything you're explaining to me sounds like the beginning of
a cult.

Speaker 4 (02:20:34):
Sometimes the cults are right, though, that's how you know
you're Sometimes I'm scared even asking which cult is right?

Speaker 1 (02:20:45):
Right exactly? Yeah, no doubt, But did you So they're
picking you up there walking around Philly, and all of
a sudden, you can you walk and feel great a
few months later.

Speaker 6 (02:20:55):
I mean the body work is the main thing. So
they did bodywork on me. I would say between six
and eight hours a day for two weeks straight. So
I'm getting forty plus hours a week of like bodywork,
holding muscles, just completely releasing all the tension in my body.
In their mind, your body's kind of like a plumbing
system and they're just clogs all over the place, So
how can we help you unclog so everything flows properly.

(02:21:16):
And that's what they did. Like you know, when you
have a surgery, you wake up and your brain doesn't
know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (02:21:20):
It just wakes up.

Speaker 6 (02:21:21):
It's like, oh shit, this is this is completely different
than what it was. Now just get fixed, and we're
just so trained to Yep, you have surgeries, so you're good,
which your brain doesn't know. It went to sleep and
it couldn't really control or had pain somewhere and it
wakes up and like now it doesn't know what's going on.
So I think that second surgery just kind of shut
everything down and they were able to get me back
on for.

Speaker 4 (02:21:39):
The last couple of minutes. I would love to know
what is your favorite thing about coach Rabel and what
is one thing you don't.

Speaker 1 (02:21:47):
Yeah you think Raves could work on?

Speaker 4 (02:21:49):
Yeah, you think you can work on? There we go
because I was like, should I say eight growth mindset?
Growth mindset?

Speaker 6 (02:21:57):
I think what I love is that he'll he'll get
the competitive miss out of me. I love talking ship.
I think he does too, and it gets that even
though he's getting older and you kind of lose that
that T level and that and that competitive like I'm
still a player, but he still has it. Yeah, he
still has it and you can get it out of
him and it's uh and it's great things that he

(02:22:17):
could work on her improved. I feel like sometimes he
gets soft.

Speaker 1 (02:22:25):
On the guys, now you know, oh you think so?

Speaker 2 (02:22:28):
Yeah, I think he gets I.

Speaker 6 (02:22:29):
Think it's more of a CBA thing than him though.
I think he wants to get us to work, but
I think he's like kind of forced not to, and
sometimes I look at him, I think he really wants
to like spas on dudes. You know, like if somebody
came late, how it probably was before the CPA changed
a little bit and you couldn't be as like strict
a guys. I think he still has it in him
and he wants to let it out, Like I don't
think he's allowed to anymore.

Speaker 4 (02:22:50):
So you think he's lost? Do you think he's got
a little soft.

Speaker 1 (02:22:52):
Yeah, So what you're saying is the pacification of America
rapes is a part of that.

Speaker 6 (02:22:57):
No, not really, it's like forced on him me, Like, yeah,
he's picked up bull Yeah, Like yeah, like he really
wants to just spas on somebody for like coming late
or like doing some shit that like constantly happens, but
he just like not allowed to. Yeah, And I can
like see it because I'm front row, and I'm like.

Speaker 4 (02:23:12):
Oh, I think I think he's about to do it.

Speaker 2 (02:23:15):
He's gonna do it, and he's like I.

Speaker 4 (02:23:16):
Can't do You look at him in like a way
like you're kind of sad for him because he's.

Speaker 6 (02:23:19):
Form h yeah yeah right, Because now it's like this
Twitter age like in thirty minutes will come out that
rage yelled at somebody and all of a sudden.

Speaker 4 (02:23:28):
Yeah, we gotta shut the team when you see it
in him. Next time, you should just whisper it out,
bro do we gotta? Are we good?

Speaker 2 (02:23:42):
All right?

Speaker 11 (02:23:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:23:43):
Well, let you do your thingk man. We know you
guys are on the schedule. We appreciate you taking the
appreciate it, yeah,

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.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Mike Vrabel On Leaving Titans, Drake Maye's Rookie Journey + Mack Hollins Goes Barefoot | Bussin'