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Speaker 1 (00:05):
All right, we're good.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
You like that, busting with the boys, hanging with the face,
betting on the game. No woman's gonna tell us what.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Not be.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
We're here just drinking beer and making n Baby, I'm
hanging with the fellers. He's busting with the boys.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Bro are we rolling? Mitchie? All right's rolling right now.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Let's keep a rod a bus rob going Cowski fillow
making up the buss.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Been a long time cover three years time. We've been
trying for three years. We're gonna finally be on.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
We're where The first time we met was at my house.
You were doing about two thousand of NAD. Just sat
there and stare at the wall for three hours, just
dying for a little bit. The next time, tight end
to you. Yep, we're putting the full court press on them.
And then we almost made it happen, but then I
had to go to the town for something. I can't
remember what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
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(01:47):
the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Oklahoma City Thunder in the West,
The Indiana Pacers and the New York Knicks in the East.
Who are we writing with for the rest of the
pro seeds? For the rest of the postseason? Boys, I'm
gonna give you the Knicks. I'm just look, I'm I'm
just I don't know shit about basketball, but I'm gonna
ride it with the Knicks because i feel like they've
created the most chaos on social media. Yeah, taking down

(02:08):
the Celtics.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
I was actually just a game. I think it was
Game four. It was in New York. I was there
actually with fan Duel. I was up in their suite,
you know, shooting some content, making some bets in the game,
and that at Mispear in New York at Madison Square
Garden was absolutely electric. My man, I'm talking. I never
seen a basketball game like that. The garden in Boston
is always electric, but it was like another level, you know,

(02:31):
in New York City. I feel like because they haven't
been in the playoffs or that far and so long,
and they're also facing the reigning champs and they did
win that game as well. So New York is popping.
But I'm not a Knicks fan. I'm a Celtics fan.
Actually not really. I don't really have a true NBA
team because I grew up in Buffalo. But I'm cheering
for Oklahoma Thunder right now. I just watched Game seven

(02:52):
versus No, I'm not going next.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
I was just giving them credit for the A And
it doesn't feel like they fan base is psychotic and psychotic.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah, the last game they just played, they beat the
ship out of the Celtics team like eighty four or
something like that.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Something was down. Brown has like a torn mc l
gus had like an illness. Yeah, football injuries. Yeah, they
just don't know how to work because they're not football.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
To get that sish figuring out baby, and also Timothy Shallamane.
You see that guy sitting outside the s u V.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, the videos after the game, like outside Timothy Charlemagne
and then like there's some face what I think you
said it nice Charlemagne. Yeah, Charlotte Charlamagne.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
That's a hard name to say. You don't want me to.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Ultimately, they're throwing like trash bags at him. Who is that?
Was that a Celtics fan?

Speaker 1 (03:47):
That was an Indiana Pacers fan and he was wearing
the star player's name. What's Hallan Burton? Sure, yeah, Halim
Burton's jersey, and they're throwing trash cans and everything at him.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
And everybody.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
The northeast, which was wild. That's too much, man, just
because he's wearing the jersey around the city and you're
attacking home. I mean it was one verse like a thousand.
The guy just had to walk away in shame. But
I think that's too much to start throwing trash at
like a random fan that's just wearing another jersey something
in the middle of the streets. A lot. I kind
of love it, you do.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
I do, because it's just like it adds to me
for the entertainment. I don't think we should ever hurt somebody,
We should never be hateful. Checkbox, checkbox, check box. But
I also think like when fan bases are that nasty,
you talk about like the Philodelphy Eagles, like that adds
to the storyline of all the teams playing and the
last time they played X, Y and Z happened. Like
I think it's good for sports and the culture and

(04:40):
everything like that.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
There's a place for just as long as it doesn't
leads pulling out.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yeah, stabbing fights and.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, people getting stabbed, but that's usually what it leads to.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Right, right, if we can just throw a nice bag
of trash or somebody and then maybe chest like bump
chest a couple of times, push each other.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
All right, we'll move on.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yeah, we'll take that every day of the week.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Throw a couple of fists. Yeah it was this couple.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Yeah, keep it classic. Well, since we're showing the basketball thing,
Kington Clark, Angel Reaes, where do you stand on that?

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I'm a Caitlin Clark fan.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Are you really where do you have you?

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Do you see this past weekend?

Speaker 3 (05:14):
I see all the Internet's blowing up about it, and
may it's something like.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
I really do think that Angel Reese does not like
Caitlin Clark. Definitely.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
That's probably a competitive rivalry, but everybody tries to make
it about some race thing storyline.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
But the first time I'm a Caitlin Clark fan because
I actually just hearing a lot about her when she
was at Iowa. What was it, I think her second
last year when they when she was playing in all
the games. No, I think it was her last year,
and I haven't seen her play yet. And then she
was in the tournament and I finally watched a game
in the tournament and she was just shooting threes up
like she was Steph Curry, and she was just sinking
them from like five feet past the three point line.

(05:49):
That's when I became a big fan, just watching her
first game in the tournament and I was just thrilled
watching her and I was I was in shock just
how smooth she was too, with all her passes, the
way she dribbled, and the way she shot. And then
ever since then, I became a big fan of her game.
And now I follow her through the w NBA and
I follow that whole beef angel rees Caitlyn Clark, and
I think Caitlyn Clark is on the pedestal of being

(06:12):
top dog in the NB and the WNBA and Angel Reese,
I feel like he's just a little bit jealous. I
think when we tell about yeah, right, not to go
way back to then, Kaitlyn.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Clark being as good as she is is one thing.
So she comes in as a big jump in the
in the viewership in the w n B A but
that wouldn't be sustainable if there wasn't the Angel Reeses
adding to like the hate now we have this big
rival were going on. So next time they play, the
seats were filled for that game, And I just think
it's attention to the league.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, I agree, you need Angel
Reese to have this hatredg uh to Kitlyn Clark and
all these other players to keep getting that attention that
the w NBA actually deserves as well. And it's working.
You know, if they were all for Kaitlyn Clark. Oh,
she's such a good player, she's so sweet to play again.
I'm gonna let her shoot her three pointer. I'm not
going to contest it. Oh, since she's getting elbows thrown

(07:01):
at her, people are loving that, and people love physicality
in sports. That's what fans love. That's why hockey's back
all the fighting when with the four nations everyone's throwing
elbows at each other the checks. That's why the NBA
is kind of back in the playoffs right now because
the referees are letting all that physicality, you know, just
go on. They're getting physical again in the pain and
they're throwing elbows. They're playing hard, and fans love to

(07:24):
see that. And that's why football is the greatest sport
because every play is physically you're getting thirty every single play.

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Speaker 4 (08:02):
Before we go any further, could we just get a
quick moment of sounds from my beloved Toronto Maple Leafs.
Thank you very much for your time.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
You know that was tough for me because I'm from Buffalo.
I'm a big Buffalo Savers fans. Toronto Maple Leafs was
our rival really, you know, throughout my whole childhood, especially
Ti Domi versus Rob Ray, all those fights back in
the day. I love both of them just getting after it. Yes,
but I didn't really want to give that moment of silence.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
I will say this, if we can, we can be
nasty about Toronto. Now they're in Game seven, in the
biggest game in your franchise's history since nineteen sixty seven
when you actually won the Cup. Disgusting display of effort.
The boys were did not want it yesterday in the
first period, zero zero. Then all of a sudden, I
go to start putting my kids down. I pop up
the YouTube TV as I'm laying on the ground as
they're falling asleep, and they're just getting throwed them badly.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Three goals within ten minutes.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
And they just got after them over and over and
over again. I mean they killed a great penalty after
the first period, and then well it was a Wall.
He was a goalie, correct, he became a sieve in
those last two periods and it was just tough, dude, tough.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Well, I know, history repeats itself, and I think the
Toronto Maple Leafs had folded and basically every game seven
in the last five six years, right in the playoffs.
So I actually did my first NHL bet on FanDuel
sports book last night. I bet two hundred dollars on
the Florida Panthers just beating the Toronto Maple Leafs straight up,
and I won. Let me pull it up, man, I'm
not telling you. It was my first I ever made

(09:39):
world Taylor put five. That must have not worked. H yeah, yeah, yeah,
my head Florida. Yeah yeah, so I kind of wish
you won now and then we kind.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Of like Taylor a lot more and got his.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
A let me go. It was actually my first bat
in the state of Tennessee too, which is really cool.
All right right here, Tennessee Saddle. Look at that Florida
Panthers toll wager two hundred dollars one three forty.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, look at that. I just check it out.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
I did see that. I saw that on Twitter last night.
And I'm just thinking to myself, God, damn it.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Well, I was just watching. I was doing the same
thing Scott.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Right now, my last my last four bets with the
Toronto maple Leafs have gotten murdered, and I had Toronto
a futures bet on them. We're in the Eastern Conference finals,
and obviously that's not going to come come together anymore.
That's now dead.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Biz has been such a like a you know, voice
for the Leafs. And then you've obviously been riding with
the Leaves too, so knowing that they were in a
game seven when I was just watching the last night,
she says, like a you know, non hockey guy, just
watching as a as a fan of the love of
the game, for the love of the game, a game
seven going on, it did seem like Florida was just
playing at a different speed, just bullying, bullying the maple Leafs.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
I had clump on phone with a bunch of people
from FanDuel setting up something when they won this game.
I wasn't gonna go to a game in Toronto. Yeah,
check it out, get the environment. See that's all about
sure enough, man. They shipped the bed and everyone told
me Toronto is like the Dallas Cowboys of hockey. Like
they're like the biggest, most well known franchise. They sell
the most jerseys, they make the most money, blah blah blah.

(11:22):
And I thought, that's great. I'll get behind them. It'll
be a fun fan base to play with. Little did
I know if they really are the Dallas Cowboys. Those
ship the bed in the playoffs, and that's what just happened. Yeah, tough, tough, slick.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
There was one two like when it was zero zero
after the first period, I was like, I wonder if
because you could notice that Florida was just out playing
them the whole time, even though it was zero zero.
Hang around and the least might just pull something off.
But then they just started to just put their face
in the pillow.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Austin Matthews, the Scotts, the Arizona guy captain. I was like, man,
I need an Arizona boy. They're running for us, but
now we got to chuck good chuck for the Panthers.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
I mean, my favorite player in the NHR, though, is
the Adminton Oilers going blank? Yeah, David, I mean I
love skates around just to spenders ice to ice, you know,
lying to line and just goes around everyone. I'm cheering
for him. I'm hoping that minto the Oilers win it all. Plus,
I feel like the NHL needs a Canada the team
to you know, win it. It's been so long, and

(12:16):
I think that will bring hockey back in a way,
even though you know, yeah, even though we're beefing a
little bit anywhere, yeh, Canada. I think it would be Yeah,
I think it would be really good if Edmonton Oilers
win it for the NHL.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Just for the sport, the attention and everything exactly.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
And on top of it, on top of speaking about hockey,
my brother texted me this morning. He goes, you have
to let because I was like, I'm going on with
buzzing with the boys, and I didn't really know. I
don't think he really knew. That's truly, you guys are
like more of a football podcast. And he goes, you
have to let them know. You're going to be in
the hockey world soon with all your nephews. So I
just want to give a shout out to all my nephews.
They're up and coming in the hockey world right now.

(12:54):
They're playing on the Buffalo Junior Sabers they're ballers and
you'll be hearing a lot about them in the few
my nephews. I told my brought I would get it
in if somehow the hockey subject gets brought up. So
there you go, brother and Jace Grayson. Keep dominating boys.

(13:14):
You guys are gonna be lethal out there on the ice.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
You play it all you in the skates. Being New York.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
I love playing hockey, man. I grew up and played
until ninth grade, and I stopped playing hockey because hockey
and basketball were at the same time, and I just
thought basketball was a better fit for me. And I
kind of like basketball more at that time. But hockey
was my favorite sport growing up.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Ye many, damn.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Yeah, But think about this guy's hockey.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
I was but left wing.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
You who Charlie is? No, it's your wife.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Number one.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Number two is Danny Charro. He was a guy who
played for the Boston Bruins. He's like six seven, he's
like six eleven on skates. This he was Russian, right,
this Russian guy who just beat the fun.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Out of people. It was it was not from the US,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah, he was not from here. He wasn't from here,
But the guy have like a hundred I think he
did like one hundred and ten mile an hour slap
shot because he used to do that. Like the All
Star games, they would do all like the little challenges.
His slap shot was insane.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
This game literally like twenty three years in the NHL.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
And just with body bag people of all time. Yeah,
and that could have been six nine six nine. Were
you nice up until you stopped playing?

Speaker 5 (14:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:20):
I was nice. I was nice. If I get on
skates now, I'm pretty slappy because it's been so long
and you got to like be able to skate all
the time in order to keep up with it. But
I was nice, man, I only played up a level.
I played with all my friends that were older than me.
I love playing hockey, it was It was by far
my favorite sport. And I was in Buffalo too, with
all the ice rinks around. It was so good. I

(14:41):
had one time scored ten goals in a game when
it was it was house hockey. We were down ten
to one and I ended up scoring ten goals in
a row and tied it up and made it eleven eleven,
and then we ended up losing twelve to eleven. That
was I think squirts. You scored ten goals. It was ridiculous.
It was one of the best performances of all time.
I know.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
It was just.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
And then another time there was just there was this chick.
She was this was travel hockey. There was this chick
on the cheek the Wogga team I think it was.
And this this is a pretty good story. And she
was vicious, she was strong, and she always came after
me to try and just deck me. And it was
always a joke all around. We're playing the chick like,
don't get leveled, and she came at me and I

(15:23):
absolutely destriight it. I'm talking like she would go flying
back like three feet, but she would get up and
then next ship she would come full speed and try
to deck me. One time she hit me pretty hard.
She went flying back still though, but my helmet broke
and my face mask went flying off me. So still
to this day, my friends punked me about the time
the chick absolutely rocked me and my face mask went

(15:43):
flying off me. But then like literally like ten years later,
when I got to the NFL whatever eight years later,
however long it was I'm a rookie and she dms
me on Facebook She's like, hey, Rob, remember I'm the
girl that always attacked you in hockey, And I like
lost my mind. I was showing all my friends that
she said she's writing me messages. It was just it
was just cool.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Big respect to her too, even though she got that.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
She's trying to slide in the DMS after Yeah, oh
he made it to the league. Rival she was your
angel Reese and you're and then all of a sudden
you make it to the league.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
She's like shot out for just having the sack to
just come at me. Yeah, yeah, every single I'm sure you.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Were an absolute unit at this time too. Still real.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Oh yeah, I was no Back in the day when
I was playing hockey. Oh, fearless, fearless I played.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
We had a much different stories. So I played hockey
like when I was like eight or whatever it mights
and it was right before checking and I house House
got a hat trick. We won it. The next year
pee wee's were doing like tryouts for a travel team,
and I did not know checking was like starting right
as the whistles blowing. Some guy who I believe in
my head is still to this day he was six
seven at eight years old.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
He knocks me down.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
I got off the ice.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I was done.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
I wanted nothing to do with it, really wanted nothing.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
To do with it. Was that the last time you skate?

Speaker 4 (16:56):
That was the last time, you know, they say get
back in the horse. No, I went that croom. I
took my pads off. I retired that day. Dude, that
was such a pussy growing.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well then, what what got you into football? If you
couldn't handle no idea? How did you get into football?
I was the kid.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
I was the kid that was like even hated baseball.
I think, yeah, hit with the ball and I.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
Would steps me yes, I would step out of the
batter's box and like kind of swing like this.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
I was one of those that bats up when the
pitchers coming, he bats up three feet in that was
mere feet. Yeah, I was because they're so scared, so scared.
Those kids drove me crazy. Yeah, yeah, that was you
would have you would have hated. Yeah, Like when did
that switch? Probably probably like.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Yeah, I got a good little hair on my sack
and I was like, you know what, this physicality thing
is not bad. I like went from doing sports like
from five to eleven twelve thirteen, I did my whole
like X games, like Metal, Militia, Travis Pastrana, Niter Circuit's
life and then I got a little bit of trouble.
My dad's like, you got to play football. And we
went and played football one state my sophomore year at
nose Tackle, and from then on I was like, Yo,

(18:02):
I'm obsessed with football.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
I loved it. Is that the dog? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:05):
That Ralph If people who are able to see Ralphie
down here, we got Yeah, we got a little friend.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
They squirrel noises in the corner over here.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
He's a good boy. He's actually been on TV before.
He was in the USAA commercial with me. Oh, this
guy is a superstar.

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Speaker 3 (18:53):
He's enjoyed.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
There are some there's some French bulldog haters on this bus.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Really, Yeah, who would that be?

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Sniff him out?

Speaker 1 (19:02):
You're talking about yourself? No, yeah, you look like one
of those white Frenchies.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah. I got an English bulldog.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
At home, all right, that's like a French bulldog. That's
the grandfather. Yeah, we're part of the bulldog world. Yeah. Yeah,
like I said, yeah, you do you look but go ahead,
English bulldog a tough you can't.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
I can't let you guys be talking up.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
I don't hate Frenchies.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah, you're not opposed to him.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
I'm a little bit opposed to him.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
So it's him.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Yeah, one one, So this is you're a guy. I'm
not a French.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
You guy.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
I think got a good coat on him.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
He's got good broad.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Shoulders, got a nice coat on the boy. Looks like
got a piece on him too.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
About these balls that haven't I haven't seen around Ralph
there is nickname is Ralph.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
I don't want to make him uncomfortable, but yeah, yeah,
good looking dog. I just.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah, that's a good boy.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
This is a tough start to me in this podcast.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
You know, walk off the bus, bus driver, open up
the door. Ralph and I getting off. We're going for
a walk. Yeah, we're gonna have to think about this.
We need to take a couple of deep prests.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Aren't these guys like made in the lab? Like, aren't
they like not?

Speaker 1 (20:17):
I know that that is one thing that they say
about it. I just kind of plugged my ears. When
people start.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
They got a lot of health issues too.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Right, a lot of health issues. But this guy, he
stays in top shape. But he's pretty healthy. It's crazy,
but majority of them, I mean, for how healthy he is,
it's still like a full time job just making sure
that he's healthy. But uh, you know, you got to
keep him active. If you don't keep them active, then
that's when all the health problems definitely really start.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
Put them on the treadmill.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
There's their personalities are through their roof. They're like human beings.
They're the best to be one on one with them.
They're they're just so entertaining and loving.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
That's awesome having for you.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Thank you man, You're happy.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
That's it, bro, That's all I can do off the bus. Dude,
let's talk about growing up.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
So you grew up in like Taylor he ran over
y yeah bah dah. So you group in Buffalo with me? Guy?

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:13):
I gave him a shot out, you know, a good
guy like.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Surgeon.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
I had some you know, vitamins this morning, some na
D to make sure I'm clear minded. So thank you
to Arete.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Yeah in dude, Buffalo, you grew up in Buffalo. How
do you head the Tucson, Arizona?

Speaker 1 (21:30):
All right?

Speaker 4 (21:31):
Was it dirt bas Uh?

Speaker 1 (21:32):
It wasn't dirt bags, but it should have been dirt bags. Actually,
I'd never been to dirt bags before until I actually
went to the NFL, and then I was old enough.
When I came back on a visit. Uh, after my
rookie year, I was twenty one, so I finally got
to go to dirtbacks. I didn't hit any bars when no, no,
I really awed to. I mean, I would admit it
like no big deal. I didn't hit any bars. When

(21:53):
I was at the University of Arizona. It was literally
all house parties or going to a frat party or
having our own house party, or just running around the
streets just trying to get into a bar, but not
getting into the bar because I was, you know, never
of age. But so my brothers were getting recruited out
of high school. And my brother Chris, who's two years

(22:13):
older than me, well, first off, my dad's in the
business of selling fitness equipment. He's been in the business
for thirty five years now. And then he became best
friends with a guy named Donnie who did the same
thing as him, that was an alumni at the University
of Arizona but sold all his equipment in Arizona. So
then you know, they go on a work trip where
Life Fitness brings everyone because they both sell Life Fitness products.

(22:34):
And then what is it like a fitness convention and
then that's where they met and they became best friends.
And then when we were all just kids, so the
alumni Arizona was like, bring your kids out to Arizona.
I know the coaches, I'll get them, you know, I'll
try to get them a scholarship, show them the film,
bring them out on a trip. Come on, we got
to get it done. So I went on a trip
with my brother when he was a senior when he

(22:56):
went to the University of Arizona, and my dad was like, hey,
you're up next in line, Like, come on the trip,
see what it's all about to get recruited. Uh, And
then the University of Arizona was the very first cool
I basically ever seen in my life, and I fell
in love with the place. My sophomore year in high school.
I was like, this is a college. This is this
is ridiculous. I mean, it's ninety degrees, palm trees. We

(23:16):
went by a pool party and like, as a sophomore year,
you know in high school, you're like home.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Market out in Arizona.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
This is ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yeah, those Arizona schools ASU, U of AS and the
nuts exactly.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
And then that's how that's how I got to University
of Arizona. I fell in love with it when I
just tagged along with my brother on his recruiting trip,
and then they started recruiting me from there. After my
brother chose to go to the University of Maryland. Then
he actually transferred to the Universe of Arizona and played
with me there for two years, and he was the
full back and I was a tight end and we
were on the field at the same time for a year,

(23:47):
which was just super cool to have and just ball
out with my brother. So that's how I got there.
Long story show show.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
You were Were you highly recruited coming out of high school?

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, I was a four star. I was in the
Rivals top two, one hundred and fifty. I was like
the fifth tight end on the board. He was. Fernandez
was actually number one. Really yeah, we were in the
same class. He was number one, and then there's a
couple in between. I forgot who they were, but they
never made it to the NFL, I don't think. But
it was, you know, it was, you know, the whole

(24:18):
entire recruiting process I went through. It was you know,
enjoyable because my top four, you know were Ohio State, Clemson, Syracuse,
and Arizona, and everyone was just so surprised that I,
you know, chose Arizona to go all the way out west.
But I just fell in love with that place from
the very beginning. Loved Clemson almost went there. That was
definitely number two. Ohio State, you know, they were recruiting me.

(24:42):
I kind of just took a visit there because it
was the Ohio State University, and I could definitely see
myself fitting in there, you know, I can can see
myself being a Buck guy. That's when Jim Trussell was
the head coach too. The facilities were insane as well.
And then Syracuse my dad went to, but the program
was just so on low at the time. Yeah, and
I just kind of wanted to get out of the

(25:03):
state of New York. I didn't want to go back to,
you know, basically home where I grew up in Buffalo,
So Arizona was just a right thing.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Don't you have a legendary story from your Ohio State visit?

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
To where you were? What was it you were hungover?

Speaker 1 (25:15):
I was super hungover. So I was a senior. I
moved to Pittsburgh my senior year in high school, so
it was an easy trip, uh, to go over, you know,
to Ohio State when they were recruiting me and then
all my friends for Buffalo. They were all older than
me and some of them went to the Ohio State University.
So I took my official visit there and I went
out with my friends the night before the game and

(25:36):
they showed me around. We actually got in a fight,
which wasn't surprising. That was my last time I basically brought.
I used to fight all the time when I was
a senior in high school because I was visiting my
brothers at the University of Maryland and they were just
bad ass motherfuckers, him and his roommates and they were
just brawl every weekend. I would show up and just joined, Hey, Rob,

(25:58):
we want to go get this one in. We literally
walked from the bar and just trying to pick a fight.
On the way home, I was running into people on purpose,
and then next thing you know, it was a five
on five brawl. I was getting thrown down a hill.
My brother kicked the guy in the face. Next thing
I know, I look up the hill and the guy's
falling down the hill. That threw me down the hill.
But I got in a little fight. It wasn't that

(26:19):
big of a fight at the at the Ohio State
it was just a little, you know, scuffle and uh.
But we had a good time. And the next morning
went to the game. I think that was Ohio State
Versus I forgot who they were playing, but I was hurting.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Look at this guy, the guy in the bottom all
the waters and I have yea.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
All the wad Oho State. Did any of the staff
know that you had got in a fight the night before?

Speaker 1 (26:43):
No, no, no clue, no clue. It wasn't that big
of a fight. It wasn't worth, you know, being in
the news either. It wasn't newsworthy. It wasn't really Like
there's no like phones back then, which was the best time.
I'm so glad none of that ship existed like when
I was in college, Like it was an era of
like the South. The camera phones were just beginning when

(27:05):
I was in college. But like that absolutely sucks to
be a superstar in college right now. You can't like
really live a college life because everyone has those camera phones.
If you go out, you know, to a house party,
you're's gonna be filmed. Like that's not cool at that age.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah, that's suck.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
You really can't have that true college experience. And I
feel like I was that last era to be able
to do all the crazy shit without ever being on
like a cell phone or being like reported to Twitter.
Plus I wasn't as good as you know. I was
in the NFL as I was in college. I was
a good player, but it's not like you know, people
knew me like that. I could ride around you.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
But you chose to leave early.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Right, Yeah, I left early as well.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yeah, but you got to be pretty damn good to
be able to enter your name into the dream.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah. Which sucked because I didn't even play my junior
year really yeah, which sucked. I was about the ball
out man. I was ready to go my junior year.
Nick Foles with our quarterback. We had a solid team.
We went eight and four that year. My brother was
to fall back as well, so it sucked. I complete
with my brother, my friends with Foles, we were bawling
spring game as well. I'd like eight catches for like
one hundred in the spring game and that was the

(28:03):
first time that we even played together, Foles and I.
And then I just blew out my back. Bro. I
had that micro with the second me surgery where I
think it was just just going to ham in college lifting,
doing all the other you know, extra activities as well,
and then I just had a major bulging disc and
I just kept going harder and harder on it, and
like the harder I went on it, the more numb

(28:26):
it would get. At that moment, and I was able
to go out to practice and lift, and then like
that night, I wouldn't be able to move, and the
next day I would just go hard on it again,
and eventually I blew it out totally, like I couldn't
even feel my legs anymore when I was nineteen years old.
And then it sucked because I had to get the
surgery that and then finally I was like, yo, my
back's fucked up. And then I even went out the
training camp and got open on an in route, ran

(28:48):
so slow, but the well it opened up, the defense
opened up, and I caught the pass, turned around like
one mile prour and I walked off the field. I
was like, yo, I'm fucked like and then we were
finally like, all right, let's get an MRI. And my
back was blown out. The disc was so hurt, neated
on the spinal court. And then eventually I got the
surgery and missed my junior year, which you know, if
I could go back, that's one thing I would do,

(29:09):
is if I wish I could replay my junior year
and play at the University of Arizona. But I still
left early, still left early.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yes, had a good couple of first years.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Then I did what was crazy is my freshman year
going in, I had six touchdowns, you know, like five
hundred something yards. I was bawling. But then going into
my sophomore year, I was like, I'm ready to dominate.
You know, it's kind of like the NFL. You know,
you're getting your feet wet. I didn't really know the
playbook that well, you know, adjusting to life, trying to

(29:40):
you know, do the dumb shit off the field as well,
that was more important time it was. It was really
more important to me. I'm not gonna it was probably
just as important as football was to me. Was going
out and acting like an idiot, you know, rookie year
in the NFL and freshman year of college. I mean,
you can't blame eighteen years old. Twentyyears old.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
I had a place like U of A too.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
And then going into my sophomore I'm ready to dominate.
I get mono, I get monos somehow, and I'm like.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
And I had to miss the first three games because
they's like, oh, your spleen's blown up, you know you
gotta miss So I missed three games my sophomore year.
True sophomore year, came back and played like what is
it you missed three was twelve games and the season
played nine games, had like ten touchdowns and balled out.
And then we went to the Las Vegas Ball which
was which was my last game I played at the

(30:32):
University of Arizona. And that was the year my brother
and I played together and he had a great game.
I only had like, you know, twenty yards that bowl game,
but we won. It was the first bowl game that
the University of Arizona even went to in ten years,
and we won it. And then that was my last
last game as a Wildcat. But overall, I played sixteen
games in college and had sixteen touchdowns as an eighteen

(30:54):
year old, and nineteen.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
Year old is awesome.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
So I had enough film to get me, you know,
afted in the second round.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
When you had the bulging discs and you got the
MRI and like you can't even fill your legs. Did
you think at any point that your career was over?

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, I sure did. Actually I went and uh, actually
I was lucky enough. I had an insurance policy. My
dad got me an insurance policy going in my junior
year because I was you know, I was kind of
highly rated, you know that I could get drafted that
year in like the top three rounds. So I had
an insurance policy and I could have cashed out on
it actually because they were saying I had spinal dunosis.
What is it spinal? I wouldn't I wouldn't know spinal

(31:30):
what's that word snosis? I'm saying dun nosis, spinal stunnosis,
And like my spines curved and there was a lot
of question marks on my back and they were like, oh,
Like the insurance company was like, hey, you can never
play football again if you get that policy, and I
was like, I was like fuck that, I'm playing football.
That was my ultimate dream. I always wanted to be
in the NFL. I'll just work through this. But at

(31:50):
some points trying to come back because that was my
first surgery, like I couldn't really get that pop back
because you lose that pop because the spinal corp is
completely shut down, and like to get that pop, to
get that explosive on this back. I was training. I
left early. I was training for the combine, and right
before the combine I didn't even participate in the combine
because at that time I didn't even have that pop still,

(32:10):
Like I couldn't even broad jo you just.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Played high school football basically the.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
NFL, and then finally boom, I got it back. And
then uh, you know, I kind of understood the recovery
process and all that, and then I was finally like,
all right, I can play again. I got this. But
there was a little point like, man, I might not
ever be able to play again because like you know that,
you know, you've never been through that experience, you know.
So I'm glad I got over that fear and over

(32:35):
that stage because everything worked out, didn't year, No, not
not one snap, you know, the.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Last game of him officially like as a as a
wildcat Nebraska.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
No, that was the year I didn't play. Brother, Was
that a show? Were you on that team?

Speaker 3 (32:50):
I was a freshman, you were a freshman.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
So that was the year I didn't play the hollyball.
We got smacked by you guys. You had gotten the
dominicant sue at the time. He went what number two
overall that year. But that was the year I got hurt.
And if I didn't get hurt, we would have watched
your ass, brother, but I think we actually we would.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Have been Yeah, dude, that yeah, nothing, yeah, thirty three
to nothing.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I was chilling, chilling. Yeah, you guys are chilling when
you're I mean I was, I was young. Yeah, you
us what you're a red shirting.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
This was my freshman red shirt year. Got you not
my red shirt, not my red shirt year, but my
second year.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
You re freshman year.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, that was bad. We got wamped. I was there,
though I was there, I didn't play that whole year. Man.
It sucked. It sucks not playing, dude. Yeah, you're just
staying there.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
It's fast.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Was I was standing on.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
It's fascinating to me that he got draft in the
second round and he only played sixteen games in college
and he had back surgery, and I had all these
question marks about it been going up to the combine,
like in the pre draft process.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
And it didn't even participate at the combine. I did
the bench press, got twenty three.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
And didn't you didn't he fall asleep in a draft interview?

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yes, with the Patriots. Bill Yeah, Bill told this story
plenty of times. This story's been talking about plenty. But
I was so tired, man, because you know that draft process.
I think it's the stupidest process as well. Like you
go from team to team, it's like you're on fifteen
flights in like fifteen days getting interviewed by all these teams,
and the Patriots were my last one, and I was exhausted.
I fell asleep like the first ten minutes I got

(34:25):
there in the room that they put me in there
like hey, we'll be right back, and I fell asleep
on the spot when they came back in to check
on me. And then I also bombed the interview process,
but like bombed it in the best way possible.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Something in the best way possible, all right, Like.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
For example, they drew a play on the board, Billy oh,
and he's in then he raced it. He's like, draw
the play? What you got? What does everyone have? And
it was one of the hottest plays. It's still a
route that I still don't even understand, olpak. It's like
the receiver goes up and down back like a comeback,
and then he goes takes off again and he makes
another comeback something you know way.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
But it was like the longest progressive play way above.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
My you know, my skill set. I don't run routes
like that. I don't stop go stop too big to
stop and going. I was like what so he's like
redraw the whole play, and I was like, brother, like
I'm stuck, like I like ground zero. I'm at like
and I was like, you know something, They'll just throw
me the fucking boss still. Like like I was like that,
like that type of interview, like you just say this

(35:26):
is so that I would just come up with an
insane answer like.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
That, yeah, just throw me the ball. Still.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
That's all I know.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
Did were you ever like nervous for these coaches because
they have that kind of hey, just throw me the
ball anyway, It just screams confidence.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
I was never really nervous because like.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Standing up at the whiteboard with the marker in hand,
trying to think, like ship, what was the play drew?
And then just like hey.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
You get a double comeback. He's just talking about like I'm.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Gonna be honest, I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
But I was cashed out though. It was like my
fifteen visit and like the last fifteen days, I was
cashed out.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
And what were you You said you had fifteen visits.
Of all the visits, like which one did do the best?

Speaker 1 (36:07):
It was probably about like eight visits or so fifteen
was a little exaggerated like eight, but at fifteen including
the Combine. Yeah, I've met with fifteen teams there, but
you know, I felt like they all went really smooth.
You know, I was on point with them all. You know.
The Cincinnati Bengals one, I was. I really wanted to
be on point because we all knew that they were
going to draft a tight end first round and then

(36:28):
they took Jermaine Gresham, but they were interviewing me like crazy.
Now they had the twenty first pick. I felt like
I smacked everything right on the money with all the questions,
my interviews at the Combine. I felt like I did
a great job and everything, but just overall just bombed
the New orleand Patriots one like bombed it, like in

(36:49):
the worst way possible. Like I said, like I like
when Billy Ull and Bill described how the official visit
was or it's not the official visit that's in high school.
The interview visit went. But uh, you know, and also
at the time, like there's so many players getting in
trouble in the NFL, and I remember I called my brother,
I was like, fuck this, I want to act like

(37:09):
a complete idiot. I feel like it gets you like
more chances, you know, because there was like five guys
that were just arrested and they were signing big deals
in the NFL. Yeah, they're like, oh, that's a good
way to think about it and look at it. Use
that theory, rob go.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
And it worked.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
It worked. Jones was getting arrested all the time.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Yeah, it was a crazy time.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, and then he signed a big deal and I
was like, yeah, it was like, if you freaking act
like a fucking insane motherfucker, you're going to get picked up.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
So it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
I want the interview process like that. And it worked.
You gotta be you gotta be nuts. You got to
be tapped in order to play in the NFL as well.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
I think I think it depends in the position. Depends
on the position. Like if you're a d end, a
tight end, like wide receivers and corners, they have their
own cocky personalities or stereotypical cocky personalities. Quarterbacks, I feel
like you have to be composed, calm, confident individuals, but yeahschoic,
like the psychotic tight end. Yeah, the psychotic tight end
is you made a name for the for the brand

(38:14):
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pants down Back to this episode. So when you're you're
at the draft, first round goes by, were you like

(39:09):
upset at all? Or were you like we knew this was
a possibility.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
No, I was upset. It's my mom says that there's
two times in my life that she's ever seen me upset.
I forgot the second time. We got to give her
a call if she told me I would remember, like
it would be like that, but she's And the other
time was not getting drafted in the first round. While
I was at the draft in New York.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
City, Did you have all the cameras rounds you and everything.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Not?

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Really, you know, it wasn't really expected for me to
go in the first round. It was the first time,
I like to say this, I was infamously, you know,
drafted as the first player going to New York as
the first player getting drafted at the draft in the
second round. So that's how I look at it, as
I started that trend. If you go to the draft,
it's fine that you get drafted in the second round. Still,

(39:58):
I was the first player to that to ever have
that happen to But there was also other ones after
me as well that year that got drafted in the
second and third round. But you know, I was ticked off.
I felt like I deserved to go in the first
I was always a goal of mine. But after I
got picked by the New England Patriots in the second
round and they traded up for me, I thought that
was really cool getting traded up for like, you know,
it's unique and like you feel special about that. Situation.

(40:21):
But once I got drafted, man, I didn't care one
single bit anymore that you know, I wasn't a first rounder.
It was it was a blessing and it was one
of the best feelings of all time that you know,
could ever happen to you.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Knowing that the expectation wasn't necessarily for you to go
in the first round. What made you decide to still
go to like New York and be potentially around the
cameras and everything when it's it's a possibility that you
might not go in the first round.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well, I didn't really look at it as like, oh,
I got to be a first rounder because they drafty.
They actually brought in a lot of other players as
well that were expected to go in the second round.
So it wasn't like I was gonna, you know, feel
uncomfortable there, gotcha. So there was like five other players
that didn't get drafted. Again, it was its first year, like, hey,
we want first rounders and second rounders at the draft.

(41:03):
We want to expand it. We want to show the inside,
you know, for both rounds, not just the top ten picks.
So they expanded how many players they invited to the draft,
and it was about like twenty five guys there, so
like twenty five guys aren't going in the first round.
That's too hired to be able to balance at to
know who's going where. So I didn't care. I thought
it was cool. And being you know, twenty years old,

(41:24):
you know, you look for the spotlight then, you know,
and whenever you're going to invite, you take it. You
know at that age. Now these days you pick and choose,
like I got to go do that in front of
the camera, You're like, ah, whatever, you know, but when
you're twenty years old, you love all those moments. You're
never saying no at twenty years old. So I was
definitely not going to say no to that situation. And

(41:44):
you know, being at the draft, you know that as
a kid, that's all you look forward to, you know,
watching all the players get drafted, like that could be me.
I just got the invite, you know, I wasn't not
going to guys standing up there a hole in the
jersey shaking Goodell's hand exactly.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
That's badass.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
It's awesome. Did you did you plan the celebration that
you do with your family, because it is it's got
to be number one.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
It is epic and you know it's still talked about
to this day. Definitely, But that's just how we were,
you know. You know, that's how we party at the
University of Arizona. We got around, who are I jump
up and down, get rowdy, all that good stuff, and
whenever we get together as a family, it was just
bringing all the energy and juice to the table. So
we knew we were going to be celebrating, but not
to the extent of like putting the helmets on, putting

(42:26):
my hand down versus my brother, you know, getting in
a circle and hooing all over the place. So that
was just on the spot right there. That was cool.
It was good man.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
You talked about comparing like saying that you're off the
field life was just as important to you as on
the field. Was that How long did that carry into
your NFL career?

Speaker 1 (42:47):
I would say just a couple of years. I mean
I started realizing that football, you know, is definitely number
one in my life, and that football, you know, needs
to be number one. Like I can't be putting football aside.
I can't be putting the training aside just because I
want to go out hang out with the friends be

(43:09):
busting with the boys, and you know at whatever college
I'm visiting my buddies at because I left college early,
so after my rookie year, all my friends were still
in college, you know. So I'm visiting Miami, Ohio, which home.
My gosh, going out there. That place is crazy, rocking bro.
I got my jersey up at Brick Street still. I mean,
I'm a legend there. I'm visiting pool parties. Look at

(43:32):
those pictures. So I'm going Ham. At least I'm going
so Ham. I was getting exercise while I was going Ham.
I was staying in shape. I was burning at least
a thousand to two thousand calories just dancing the three
four hour period of going out. But I realized that
football has to be number one, though, and football is
going to sustain that, you know, the extra activities as well.

(43:56):
And so if I keep the football, you know, activities
and football all you know, skills at the highest level,
everything else is always going to be there. I learned
that about two three years into the league.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
What made you come to this realization? Was it a
conversation with the teammate, just s, family members, your.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Experience of showing up the football and being deteriorated and
sucking and being out of shape and wind ind the
puke and feeling like every single one of your muscles
are gonna spas them out there on the field or
pull and like yeah, it's like miserable and you're like, yeah,
I shouldn't be out here right now. And you got
to work your way through it because you got to

(44:31):
show that you know, you're doing the proper things. You know,
But when when you hit you know, real life, when
you hit that realization on the field of it's not
going well, you know, that's when you know you got
to tune things up and you got to change whatever
whatever you're doing. I mean, I'm sure you experienced that
before at least once or twice.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Did your realization that football has to be the main thing? Yeah,
oh absolutely. Everyone has pretty young for me, because you
know they're hearing about the stories that you have. I
just I think in my head, like, I don't know
how I would function as an athlete in college if
I like my night life was just right there. I
put as much into my night life as I did football,
So I feel like it just wouldn't I don't know,

(45:12):
I feel like it genetically it wasn't. It wouldn't have
worked for me.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Well, hearing the way you talk about it, it sounds like
you were like practicing and then after practice you're like, Okay,
what are we going to do tonight? And for me,
like I have partied a lot in college in my
first couple of years in the NFL, but it was
always to me like I'd act like in my brain,
I'd be like, I'm not going to go out this weekend.
Then accidentally, all of a sudden, I'd It'd be two
am on a Saturday and I'd be up at Losers
or Rick's American Cafe in Ann Arbor. It seemed like

(45:36):
you were like, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna work
really hard at football so I can go party and
get the most out of that.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
There we go. That's exactly how it went, no doubt
about it. And also going out in the party, it
wasn't you know, throughout the week. It was only one
night a week, or maybe possibly two nights a week
during the off season. It wasn't an everyday thing. If
it wasn't every night thing, then I would definitely never
be where I am right now. So I always put
that work into and then sometimes we're in the weight

(46:03):
room and we would work harder. We would be pushing
each other harder because we'd be like, hey, you got
to look Jack tonight. You know you got extra you know,
twenty crunches, extra minute on the plank, you know, extra
set of the bench press. So that motivated you. That
got you to where you needed to get to because
then you felt like you deserve to go out that
night too. So, uh, you know it was always in

(46:24):
back of the mind. Uh, but it wasn't like, you know,
a daily thing. If it was a daily thing, I've
seen players go through the daily thing where they're going out,
you know, throughout the week too. And I always knew
too as a kid, even in college, I'm like, no,
I ain't touching that during the week. I ain't going
out during the week. I need my sleep, you know,
I need I need to go to classes obviously, I
need to be ready for practice. And then I always

(46:45):
actually did it when I always knew I had basically
had off next day as well. Yeah, sometimes in the
younger generation era, you know, you would do it with
practice till the next day at like ten am or
eleven and you would just fight your you know, fight
your life through it. But majority of the time I
would know I would have off next day as well
to recover, rehydrate and all the good stuff. So I

(47:05):
was I did all the all the stupid shit the
smartest way possible.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
I feel that, Yeah, you grind it through it. Even
in workout. It's like if I would be hungover, Like
I remember a couple times where I'd be hungover, you
try to have a late night and you work out
the next day, and when I felt like I was
on the verge of throwing up or my body feeling
the way it did, it'd be like when you're on
a knee listening to your coach talking, I'm just thinking
in my head, I got it, i can't do this, Yeah,
I can't like continue.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
I guess that's yeah, that's always the second guess, because
when you go out, you're like, this is gonna be awesome,
and then when you're a peak drunk.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
You're like, I'm gonna power through tomorrow. I'm gonna absolutely
crush it.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
And the minute you get wake up the next day,
I can never do that again. Yeah, But then it
goes like it's Monday, you're like, I'm not drinking. I'm
living my life like a saint. Now Tuesday comes by,
you're like just a good old boy. Wednesday, it's like,
you know, Friday is right around the corner and it
is a lot of fun. Thursday is like, all right,
one more weekend and then we're solid. And then all
of a sudden, it's Friday, Saturday, and then Sunday you're like,

(48:00):
all right, yes, just had that timeline, perfect, dude, because
that's what it is. You always have, Like the Sunday scariers.
You were like you've rethought your entire life, and you're like,
this is it. This is the day I changed who
I really am, and then by Friday you're back to
being the same fucking person over and over again. I
can't imagine that first offseason you had after your first
year in the NFL, because because in college, it's like
back when you played, it was you have like a

(48:20):
week off at most, right, two weeks if you don't
make a bowl game.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Well. The best thing about it, too, was it was
the lockout, so we weren't even allowed to have an
off season that year, So I had a true six
months of just doing whatever I wanted to do.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
So I was Milichick his pants.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
He really was. And that's when like kind of like
videos were starting to service on the Internet of me.
I was back at the University of Arizona with the
basketball players at a pool party, just going ape shit.
I was visiting my friends, like you said, in college Miami, Ohio.
I got to bring that place up again. I'm telling you,
a spectacular place if you're a young buck. Just the
atmosphere that that's presented there is just phenomenal, h and

(48:56):
just everything else. I learned what Vegas was that year
as well, after my rookie year. But this is like
I never had one. I never had the responsibility of
going back in training, you know, up in New England
because we were locked out. We weren't allowed back there
for the whole six months. And then I ended up though,
showing up and absolutely balling and training camp and having
my breakout season where I scored like twenty one touchdowns

(49:18):
including the playoffs, and like broke every record as a
tight end. So I guess I can contribute it to
all my dancing and all my party because I was moving.
I'm talking about my stamina was up there. I was
staying loose, you know, just jiggling everything on my body,
just every type of motion you could possibly think of,
tworking to the extreme powers, like I swear, that's what

(49:40):
got me through. Was just NonStop movement. You know you
do the lifting. You know, they say you got to
have that base, like you know, the foundation of like
your core of being loose, flexibility and stamina of the
little muscles firing. And that's what got me the you know,
keep everything firing at a proper rate. Was all the

(50:01):
dancing and all the movements throwing your friends up in
the air on top of lifting as well. Yeah, when
did you? Right? I swear, though I swear, I mean
I don't really do that really. I like try to
go out and like I dance for like five minutes,
and I'm like, how the fuck was I dancing for
three hours straight? Like I can dance for five minutes.
Now I'm like all right, Like I can't dance any

(50:23):
longer anymore.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
When did you realize that your party and your antics
could become like a massive brand, Because now you have
like grounk Beach, your brother you and your brothers. You
did the cruise, so you have you have so many
things that are revolved around a lot of things that
used to get you in trouble. When did that transition
happen where you're like, oh, I can actually make money
doing this?

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Uh? You know, it kind of just happened naturally as well.
It wasn't like I was doing it as like a
scheme or a play or you know, to get like
notoriety from it. Not at all. Man. I was just
being myself. What what I've been doing since, you know,
my college days and going into the NFL. It wasn't like,

(51:01):
you know, anything was planned ever. I was just doing me.
And then it just kept blowing up sometimes. And that's
why I just kept doing me, because I'm like, I'm
just doing me, like I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm
just having fun, you know. And then I really noticed
a couple of years into it, like all right, like
this is starting to become something because wherever I went,
people expected it, you know, and it was cool. It
was cool as shit. It was like, all right, I'm
going out, it's going to be so turned up. But

(51:23):
you have the energy when you're in the twenties as
well to turn up the whole entire place. Get on
the bar, give everyone shots, all that good stuff, and
I noticed that, you know, it could possibly be a brand,
Like it's working, even though I'm just being myself. It's working.
It's blowing up, you know. At the same time, though,
I always knew that balling on the field was what
the real accelerator was, was what the engine was, was

(51:45):
balling on the field, because like, this guy's absolutely fucking
balling on the field, but he's going out with all
the fans as well and just having a good time
and going ham And then you know, eventually though, I
kind of got over that kind of stigma, you know,
because it was hard, you know, in your mid twenties
easily with the energy to keep up with it. But

(52:05):
when I was starting to fade on the football field,
that was becoming hard off the field too, because I
was starting to back away from it big time because
football was, you know, starting to get away from me,
and I didn't want football to get away from me.
So I knew I had to start changing my lifestyle
big time. So I would start picking and choosing when
I'm going out, how much I'm going out then, and
all that good stuff, because I wanted, you know, to

(52:28):
be on top of my game for football and now
to this day. You know, it is a brand, you know,
like a party brand, it really is. But I'm not
even close to partying how I was partying back in
the day, that twenty year old me, you know, got
that brand to sustain all the way to this day.
That's how ham I was going though back then. Yeah,

(52:49):
that's how much I was balling in the field. So
you know, it's cool, like throwing grunk beach, I just
pick and choose. Now, like grunk beach, I'll go hand,
but not like how I used to. You know, I
don't want to drink as much as I used to either.
It's it's not good for you. It is poison. You know.
I can't work out the next day. It takes three
days to recover. I'm really into health, you know now,
and and in fitness obviously I've been my whole life.

(53:12):
But uh just I'm always in for a good time.
But I'm more of the guy now you know that
likes to look like laid back and watch what's going
on and join a little bit of the action, but
you know, not going too crazy, not.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Like your young self. What were the what we're like
the coaching moments like with somebody like Bill Belichick. You
talk about how like the Patriot way, how strict he was,
how meetings could run like in the early days before
it becomes a brand. Are there any moments you're having
in the facility with Coach Belichick before it like becomes
a distraction or hey, your brand or being more than
the team. Was there like a transition there? Because obviously,

(53:47):
when you become drunk and you're the man, you guys
are winning super Bowls, it's a lot more accepted because
you know you're the man the Patriots are. You guys
are winning football games. But in the early years, when
you're coming back in these videos are surfacing, Is there
anything happening in meetings with Coach Bill.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Here's the thing I always knew if I showed up
and balled, I would be in good hands, still be
in good faith with the coaching staff, and Coach Belichick
let a lot of things go. If you were bawling
on the field, he didn't care if you were out
all night and showing up. As long as you produce
on that football field, he let everything go. It was fine.

(54:22):
But the second you started dropping off, oh shit, you
didn't want to be there. You didn't want to be
in that meeting. You're getting called out. You're going to
have a one on one meeting like hey, mother, Like
what the fuck are you doing? I see you out,
Like you can't even you know, come out to practice
and get open versus our undrafted free agent. Like so
he would let you know, and he would eventually let

(54:42):
you know in front of the team too, he would
call you out. So that's why, like you always had
to be on point when you enter that facility. And
that's why I believe that going to that destination, you know,
kept me on the grind too, Like yeah, the nightlife
and whatever you were doing outside of football, but the
second you stepped in that building, like you had that
motivation in that grind like oh fuck, Like I got

(55:03):
to absolutely dominate because I was out. Everyone saw it.
And if I don't produce on this field, oh fuck,
it's going to be a bad day for me. So
that kind of got you to that level mindset like
that you got a ball.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Did you ever have a moment with Bill where he
had to check you in a one on one or
a team meeting?

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Not really, So Julian and I we went out Memorial
Day weekend to narraganinstt No Not Narro, garratt It, Nantucket,
Naragainst's and Rhode Island. We went out to Nantucket for
for Gawie weekend. We got absolutely, you know, hammered. We
were out of a golf cart. We're in the back,
Julian and I doing our thing, and the golf cart

(55:42):
lifted up in the air the front tires and we
landed on the ground and it was a video that
surfaced the internet and it was classic. And I remember
the next day or three days later, we go to
whatever OTAs running rounds and Bill came up to us
and we were outing all over please get all that
fucking ship out of your system. I saw you too,

(56:04):
idiots this weekend. You guys are fucking fools. Keep running,
get it all out of you. So we were balling
though we were out there. But Coach always got you
to that mindset hungover and not feeling so good when
you hit that field. That just the aura in New
England that got you to that mindset of whatever fuck
is in your system, however you feel get yeah, you

(56:27):
better not feel that way. It's gonna get it's gonna
get you over it when you hit that field right there?

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (56:33):
It is that the golf cart? Yeah, right there there
we are to oh the back of the golf cart broke.
That's not good. This is like two months before the season,
is it really? But Justin Timberlake loved it because that
was the same night we were, Yeah, right there, we
were dancing to a song. This is the same night
we were dancing to a song gotta feel it. Yeah,

(56:56):
got a feeling and we were rocking out. And then
he tweeted that, Yeah, the same night ladies to groc
get a playboy. So shout out to Justin timber That's
what I knew, all right, I gotta keep going. You
see those dance moves. Now you see why I was
getting out there. You're staying loose. Look at shimminging all
over the place.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
At that what is it the shuffle? You got something
going there for sure. You talk about the aura of
New England those first couple of years, Like what was
it like for you picking up the playbook? Understanding everything
and knowing like what Tom wanted? Like how demanding was
Tom on you when it came to the playbook and
stuff like that?

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Bro, That's why I didn't play like my first eight
games because I didn't really know the playbook like that.
I had the skills, I had the talent, you know,
but they didn't trust me. I even had some great
you know highlights in the preseason that year. I had
like three touchdowns drag blauring nights into the end zone.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
You like I showed some talent, Like I showed some bursts.
I showed like what the type of player I could be. Uh.
But then like practice would come still and I would
be fucking up tremendously, Like I would have five great
plays and I would have five terrible plays. I'd be
blocking the wrong guy, I'd be running the wrong route.
And when you're at that level, no matter how good
you are, if they can't trust in you doing the

(58:09):
right thing, well you're not going to play in New England.
They don't give a fuck how good you are. They're
not gonna play you. And they let me know that.
And the first eight games I only had about fifteen
to twenty snaps per game I was playing, And it
would only be the true plays that they would trust
in me. They say, hey, here's the twenty plays that
you know we trusting you with these twenty plays, we'll

(58:31):
call you in personnel when we're gonna call these plays.
I do like twenty plays a game. And then all
of a sudden, I'm bawling though I'm still showing that potential,
you know, and they're like you, we're not putting you
out on that fucking field until like we can truly
trust in you. Same with Tom, you know, coaching staff, Billy,
oh Bill. And then finally, like I was struggling because
the playbook was totally different from college. At college, I

(58:53):
lined up on the right every single play. I had
like five routes, you know, we had like five blocking plays, run,
place and kaboom in the playbook. And one day, I mean,
you get to New England. You got a playbook like that,
you got fifty five different formations. I gotta line up
on the left, I gotta line up and slot. There's
fifty different calls in the run game. I'm likeel fifty
different calls in the run game. Arizona, we had five

(59:14):
different run calls, you know. Yeah, so I couldn't get
up the pace. And then finally, like week eight, Week
a nine, all of a sudden, just everything clicked, you
know that feeling when you're like, okay, I got this.
I know everything in the playbook. Not everything, but like
I got I know enough now. And then I was
showing them on the practice field like hey, I'm consistent.
Now I'm bawling like I'm doing the right things. And

(59:36):
then I'll play. You know, I talked about plenty of times.
There There was a play versus Chicago Bears versus Arlacker
that I had to body him up and I did
it in practice on Friday, and they're like, we're gonna
call this play and you got you better be ready
for it. And then it was versus Arlac. I had to,
you know, get big on him in the end zone,
one yard into the into the end zone, turn on him,

(59:58):
use my body and the boom there as a ball.
Did it in practice, replicated in the game versus Iarlacker
box box him out. Uh, Tom put the ball right
there and I caught it. And ever since then, the
trust just went through the roof and I played every
single play after that. So the playbook, you know, I
to you rookies out there, get in the playbook. That's

(01:00:20):
the first thing. It doesn't matter how good you are
if you don't know the plays. If you're thinking on
the field, you're not going to play. You're not going
to be the best player that you could possibly be.
So get in the playbook and know those plays right
from the beginning.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
What was Tom Brady like through these growing pains your
rookie year?

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
He was an asshole in my rookie year. He really was.
He was like mister Bill Belichick's son at that time.
He was mister Patriot at that time. But and he
was on my ass though. But you know, I see why, though,
you know, I really see why he saw the potential
in me too. I remember one time I ran a
flag route and he always wanted me to go outside

(01:00:58):
of the defender, and like I didn't have the fluidity
to get outside of him when he was like two
yards outside of me and try to get open. So
I always try to go right inside of him, make
a little move and try to get open the flag
route even though he's playing outside. And he's like, I'm
never gonna throw you the fucking ball. Actually, I'm never
throwing you the ball ever again. He said that in
the meeting room after I went inside on the flag round.

(01:01:20):
But he told me five times already to get outside
at least show them I'm trying to get outside. But
I'm like it was too hard for me at that time,
Like I couldn't comprehend it, you know, the way that
my body was moving. I just couldn't do it. And
then after he said that, then that kind of clicked
in me too, like, oh, fuck, I gotta really try
to show him that I'm getting outside and just just

(01:01:40):
have a quarterback to be that hard on you at
the beginning though as a young buck, you know, it
can definitely deteriorate you a little bit. But he saw
all that potential because then right after he would say
something like that, Yo, stay after me with practice. Let's
fucking let's let's run this route twenty times. Let's get
you on the same page. You have to finally click.
I'm going to keep going until you click. So he
was really really hired on me. But I see why,

(01:02:03):
and I respect it to the highest tea. And I'm
so glad that he was that hired on me as well,
because we would have never gotten to the page and
the chemistry that we were at if he wasn't that
hired on me. And that's what makes him probably you know, well,
the greatest player of all time because it wasn't his
skill set, you know, it wasn't his ability to do
you know, what he does on the football field. It

(01:02:23):
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to this episode with Tom. It seems like his two
main guys throughout his career were like you and Edelman,
or just like kind of like his core guys all
the time. At what point did you feel like, all right,
I'm really in Tom's pack because a guy like that,

(01:03:16):
of that superstardom, Dayton Models marrying the models, like he
seems like he's like one of the first guys in
the NFL to'll be like above the NFL. And for
you to be like in that group with him, was
there like a moment where you're like, Okay, I'm I know,
I'm Tom's guy now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Kind of that moment. You know, my rookie year, you know,
I felt like I got in the pack, like after
that play versus Earl, but I wasn't truly in it yet.
You know, we had Wes Welker as well. I mean
Randy Moss you know, just got traded in my rookie year,
so he was in that pack as well. Dan Branch
got traded back, like he was in that pack even
though he left for a little bit with the Seahawks.

(01:03:54):
We had a couple other players as well that I
could see that he truly trusted and that he truly
looked to. And I would say I truly enter. That
was my second year when I bloss him, and that
was my absolute goal as well. We talked about, yeah,
having that lockout, but in me going hand for six
months straight, but also in back of my mind, football
was always there, and I always wanted to be the greatest.

(01:04:15):
And I remember calling my agent, Drew Roadshouse. I said,
I'm gonna be the greatest fucking tight end this season.
Watch and he's like, okay, I mean, he's like, you
got Antonio Gage, you got Jason Wait, And I'm like, now,
I'm telling I'm gonna be the greatest tight end this year.
And like I had that as a mindset and I'm
gonna be on the same page as Brady. I get
what he wants now. And then going into that training camp,

(01:04:37):
everything was just clicking and I entered that pack of
that trust because I get that trust from Brady and
the coaching staff. You have to be a consistent fucking player.
I don't care. You can show a burst of going
deep and making an amazing play, but if you can
do that one out of every ten, I mean, you're
not in that pack. You're not going to have that trust.
So I showed that trust going into my second year,

(01:04:59):
and then that's when it just all truly started clicking
and it lasted for ten more years straight.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
How did that was? It? Always respect from Tom when
he's hard on you in those moments like your rookie year.
Are you thinking, like, Yo, this dude's a fucking asshole.
I thought he was, well, you're kind of resistant to like, hey,
let's stay up to practice, do twenty reps, and you're
just like, fuck man, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
I thought he was an asshole for sure at first.
You know, I'm telling you it was mister Patriot, my
rookie year, like like he was. He was Bill two
point zero. I swear, like, I'm like, man, this guy
zero fun zero fun like zero like. But but I

(01:05:39):
kind of understood it at the same time, not to
the full extent, you know, but.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
Once you're in this, like once you're in, you're growing,
you're progressing, you're getting better. You're thinking, all right, this
is this is where I need to kind of bum yes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
And then once I bought in too, he loosened up
as well, Like he just wanted me to buy in
and get rid of all that bullshit that was going
on on the outside, or me not pay attention in
the meetings, or me not doing what I need to
do out in the football field, because he saw it
in me like he sees he sees potential in players.
He knows players inside and out, like he can watch

(01:06:10):
film Tom he can break down a player's strength, he
can break down their weakness. He can break down how
to get open versus what you got to do. He
can even break down a defensive lineman like and know
their strengths and how to block a defensive lineman. He
knows the game of football like that, and that's what
makes it made him so great obviously. So he knew
what I needed to do out in the football field.
And when I started finally doing it, when it started

(01:06:31):
clicking to me and I was starting to truly understand,
that's when that relationship really blossomed, and he, you know,
he was less hard on me. I mean still to
this day, he's hard on his players. I mean even
once you get that relationship going, because he wants that
relationship to keep building, you know. But it wasn't like
my rookie year. You know, every rookie year was tough
at some points. But I saw why, and I'm I'm

(01:06:54):
so blessed and I'm so thankful that he was like that.
I needed it. Put it that way, I needed it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
How hard was were they on Julian Edelman. I just
listened to Bill Belichick on the pivot and it seems
like they were extremely harder. Coach Belichick was extremely hard
on Julian when he got to New England.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Well, he was a year before me, so I didn't
really see his rookie year like that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:13):
Dog.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
It's a good boy though, he knows where we're a
good boy working. You feel safe, Yeah, he feels safe.
He's just relaxing. That's a good boy right there. So
but later on, if we keep going, he'll eventually let
us know like, hey, hey, motherfucker humans, Hey, motherfucker humans,
it's my turn, throw me the ball. But he's a
good boy. But Julian was absolute dog and they love

(01:07:38):
getting under his skin. If you got under Julian's skin,
it brought the best out of them. And I would
say same with myself, you know, And that's why they're
hired on players there. Coach Belichick knew how to get
him play into players' minds, even if it was in
the most asshole way.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
That's why we respected so much and we appreciate it,
you know, to this day. Because he was really trying
to make you the best fucking player that you could
possibly be, and he was trying to bring the best
out of you, and he sure did it, even though
whatever way he was doing it, you know, it could
have been vicious. You know, it could have been like, yo,

(01:08:13):
I'm about to trade you. Like he could have just
been making it up and then you would go absolutely balls,
you know, out in the practice field and the games.
So he knew how to bring the best out of players,
especially the ones that he knew wanted it, and Julian
was a guy that wanted it, and he brought the
best out of Julian and whatever techniques he was doing
to get under Julian's skin.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
Dude, you I mean obviously, receiving wise as where you
get paid, it's probably the most fun for you. But
from a blocking standpoint, you see so many clips of you,
like throwing a chip bock on trail sucks and then
sending them into the bleachers that the safety from the
Colts on the goal line sitting him all the way
to the sidelines, tell me him no white T shirts
in the club. Where did the mindset come with the blocking?

(01:08:52):
Was it always really important to you or did you
learn early like this is how you become like a
complete tight end.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
No, it was always important to me since my high
school days playing football, I always just took pride in
the blocking game. I really did. I remember in high
school it was before like all the blindside blocks you know,
got banned, which was a good thing, you know what
I'm talking to, those crack crack black blocks. You took
more pride in high school when you absolutely leveled someone

(01:09:20):
than say, scoring a touchdown. I'm talking The touchdown was cool,
you celebrate, but the whole sideline would go absolutely bonkers
if you took someone up and just planting them on
the ground, or you blindsided someone and just flat blacked
them and basically put them in the hospital. So that
mindset was always there to just be the biggest dog,
to be the you know, to be the strongest dog

(01:09:41):
out in the field, and to to be tossing people around.
Tossing people around felt like the manly thing to be
in the game of football. Yeah, catching touchdowns was cool,
that came with it, but that wasn't what you wanted
to showcase. It was how far can you take someone
and just embarrass them and just show them who the
fuck is boss? So that's started, you know in high
school maybe say it would say as a kid though

(01:10:03):
that toughness because I was getting beat the shit out
of from my three older brothers and their friends at
all times, and they would pick on me and I
would just come right back at them. So that mindset
started then. And then in high school my senior year,
I only had eight catches my senior year in high
school as a tight end, and we ran the ball
fifty two out of fifty two plays one time, and
it didn't matter because we were dominating. We won the

(01:10:25):
game like thirty nothing. I would just take guys, drive
them back five yards, planning them. At one time in
high school, picked up a guy, brought them off the
sidelines ten yards and threw them over the fence. It
was kind of like the play, the Sergio Brown play,
but instead I took the guy up in the air
at ten yards and threw them over. And now, yeah,
just like that one. But then I took the guy
and threw them over the fence in high school, and

(01:10:45):
we just took so much pride in that, like it
wasn't about catches, it wasn't about touchdowns. So that translated
into college and everyone respected it. Everyone respected me a
lot more because I wasn't the guy just looking for touchdowns.
I was the guy when it came to whatever seven
on seven what's it called when nine and seven run period,

(01:11:06):
that I'd be showing up. And it was all about
how how how bad ass can you be in the
run game, and how you know, how hard can you
block the d N and make a hole for your
running back?

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
Dude, there is something about having a tight end that
knows how to do like a trade block or a
triple block and knows where the right fit is, where
to put his hands. It makes your life so much easier.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
It's the best feeling, dude. Yeah, to this day. You know,
when people show my highlights, I don't give a fuck,
Like the catching highlights and touchdowns, I'm like, cool whatever,
I won't even look. I'll be like, that's cool. But
when I see a blocking play of mine, I rewind
that thing I've read there. I remember Stephen Ridley, he

(01:11:47):
was running back, my good friend. He'd beat Kevin Hart
in a race like two years ago, and Kevin Hart
blew out his hamstring. So the NFL, you guys remember
that a little bit. No, he blew out his abdominal
and then the NFL was you know, showed oh ex
player Stephen Ridley, you know, blows away Kevin Hart in
a race. Kevin Hart blows abdomino. So then what did
they do? The NFL took all of Stephen Ridley's highlights

(01:12:10):
and they put them up on the NFL dot com
or whatever their Instagram page, and guess what there, I
was blocking and I sent it to Really, I said,
look at that motherfucker block for you. I'm like, I
love the blocking highlights. And I'm I'm like surprised with
myself because I don't really remember, like it was just
a natural thing I would do, you know, and I

(01:12:32):
didn't really notice how important it really was. It was
just part of my personality, Like that's what I did.
I blocked. But when I go back and I watched
me block, like when I was in my heyday, like
the first four years, man, I was fucking tossing motherfuckers, dude,
and I didn't really realize it that I was really
doing it like that. Like I was doing it like that.
So I'll always rewind a block and I'll always make

(01:12:53):
sure that people see all the blocks when they're up
on the DV screen, which is whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
With the game, were you a g that like talk
ship during the game, or you kind of just keeped
yourself and if somebody talks it to you turn it
up on them a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
There we go, and I love when people talk shit
to me, Like brought me to a whole other level.
And that's what happened with the That's what I was
gonna ask ahole entire game, just yapping at me and
we're friends, like we're friends like in New England. I'm like, bro,
like I'm getting open on you guys too, and we're
dominating you. But just kept going and going and going,
and finally he just triggered me and I just was like,
I'm on the next blocking play again. I'm gonna just

(01:13:25):
keep going and going and going.

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
How long was that? I'm gonna I'm gonna get him when.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
I get just chirping. He was chirping the whole time. Yeah,
there was Dabel. You saw Dabel there giants. Now he
loved it too. There he is right, there was.

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
Oh yeah, good ship. How many plays so this guy's
chirping at you, getting after you, saying whatever? How many
How long after was that block for you where You're like, Okay,
I'm gonna take this kid to the episoute sound.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Oh, I was going. I didn't care if I knew
the play was over too. Like I saw the running
back score a touchdown. Oh Ship, what's his name again?
He had three touchdowns that came in like two hundred
and fifty yards.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
You just had like fifty running backs?

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Yeah, no, yeah, And then we caught him like two
weeks later because jonas yeah, ja so many running backs.
I just couldn't think of what it was you guys
running backs. I saw him score right behind me too,
and I was like, fuck this, I'm still going. I
was just over him. He was just talking the whole time,
and I just like I'm gonna I'm just gonna go

(01:14:24):
until he collapses and then boom finally.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
Right there is why I never wanted to talk Ship. Yeah,
just to like, if you're going to gainst a good player,
you're just I'm always like complimenting. I'm complimenting.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Yeah, I hated that this guy's too nice, Like I
don't want to it's.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
Yeah, it's when you have a lax just like you're
playing a hell of a game out here, just to
like you never want that trigger to go off on
somebody because you just never fucking know. You ain't trying
to be on a highlight.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
No, I feel you, I mean you're you're how do
you feel about this?

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Oh? Man? That's that's that's a set you fifty one correct? Yeah,
you got me solo tackle. But that's a nice uh
flat route though. Look at the speed I had back then.
Wish I had that speed still though, Man, look at
me come out of the back Was that coming out
of the backfield or was that just a flat route
at the tight position or that? Yeah? I'm flying right there.

(01:15:18):
See I out angled you. That's how fast I was
back then. That should have been if you were playing
true technique football as a linebacker, that should have been
a two yard cat. Just I just beat the zone,
beat his own.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
I think we were a man there. Yeah, so it
makes it even worse, worse, but you made up for it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
You made up right there. Look at should I have
only about four yards? But Will couldn't close the gap fast.
Holy shit, I'm on the same page still. And that
was and that was. That was June twenty third, twenty
twenty three, all right, so that wasn't that long ago.
But still, that was a nice tackle.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
He got one on one a lot of other men
have failed trying to do.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
There's a photo where it's captured from from Rob's angle
to where it looks like he just I mean, he
does stiff arm me, but it looks like they have
a great angle to where that should you get like
posterized for getting stiff armed?

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
I know, I know Gronk's a guest on our show,
but if you're in man coverage, are you fearful of
this man because he's not like it wasn't the shiftiest
guy in the world and you had some speedback then,
this is.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
You know, yeah, you know he's a stiff arm Well,
so yeah, absolutely, Look at that pick man.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
I see that picking.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
You got to break that down. You got to break
that down.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
And I.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Was on the sideline, so I knew that you had
silent help, so I didn't really try. I wanted you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
I wanted you to catch the ball because I wanted
to pad My stats.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
Was there for both of us. First down, But you
gotta tackle.

Speaker 4 (01:16:52):
Tackle bright pull on the film, but comp you got
to fix the angle here a little bit. But hey,
way to get him down when he got him.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
A lot of guys fail on.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
That, A lot of guys failed.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Mission Impossible is the greatest franchise of all time, and
it's one of those few franchises that feels like they
just constantly get better. They raise the bar. They have
an amazing cast, and they have incredible action.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
Scene Buddy, I could not agree more. Tom Cruise is
truly incredible. There's actors and actresses out there all over
the world. There's only a few elite actors and actresses,
but there's only one individual who does all of their
stunts and has no stunt doubles, and that is the
one and only Tom Cruise.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning. They have some of the
most dangerous stunts that have ever been filmed in cinema.
They're incomparable visceral action for audiences around the world. I
don't understand how they do it each time, each.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
Move, Buddy, the stunt Tom Cruise performed on that plane,
That plane was going one hundred and seventy miles an
hour and then all of a sudden, this in sane stunt.
That was with two million gallons of water.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
You just know at one hundred and seventy mile prior
wins in massive water tanks. This movie's gonna be crazy,
It's gonna be untouched.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
This film is a culmination of the last thirty years.
Every mission has led to this.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
I cannot wait to see this movie. The whole squad's
going and all we talk about is how we can't
wait to see this action on the big screen.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
Bro. Tom Cruise truly delivers in this movie. It makes
you wonder, will this be the final Reckoning?

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
Catch Mission Impossible? The final Reckoning in theaters this Thursday.
You do not want to miss I want to ask.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
I gotta ask.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
You were the same same position, group, same age, What
was it like around Aaron Hernandez.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
I was just gonna get into that De's really.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Like in your mind or you're like all the stuff
that comes out about him now, like going back to
those moments around him, are you kind of thinking your
head like I'm not in this world too much? But
there's like some there's like some shit that this guy's
into off the field that I don't necessarily even want
to know.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
Because there was we we heard stories about like him
being in the team meeting room, like beating off and
like doing crazy shit. I mean, and and honestly, if
you don't want to talk about me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Possibly, that's a possibility. I may or may have not
seen it live. No shit, yeah, I'm not going to
complete I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
At the time, just thinking yourself, Man, this guy really.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
But uh, I mean I love crazy shit though, so
like I didn't mind things like that. I was like, wow,
like that was pretty epic. Like I was a wild
man myself, so like I was like, nothing fazed me.
I was like I encouraged it, but like never I mean,
I mean, first off, unbelievable football player. Man, you're talking

(01:19:37):
about the playbook me struggling with the playbook. That guy
knew the plays inside and out, the run game, man
pass game, and like the first two weeks being in
New England, while I struggled with it all the way
untol like week eight, you know. And he was bawling
right from the beginning. He was a basketball player out
on the football field, That's what he was. With his size,
he could run, he was he was at one point

(01:19:58):
he was lining up at running back and having already
plus yard runs while I was black. I mean, you guys, yes,
you're the best combination at the tight end position of
all time, and that second year proves it. I mean,
we have like, what twenty three hundred yards combined and
like twenty eight touchdowns between just him and I including
playoffs and regular season. That's unheard of. Like, there ain't

(01:20:20):
no other tight end combo ever going to have fifteen
hundred yards combined like ever again possibly or maybe like
sixteen hundred yards. So we went like twenty eight hundred
and like twenty eight touchdowns, which is just absurd. But uh,
there's a lot of craziness definitely. But I didn't mind it,
Like I said, I loved it. Uh, And then I

(01:20:41):
didn't see, you know, it going to the level that
it went to. I didn't see that happening Like that
was a surprise. It was a surprise to everyone because
you would never expect anyone, you know, especially be in
that position, to have it go to the level that
it went to.

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
And you're learning about this stuff with when all the
whether it's duckumentary shows coming out about it. You're learning
that then, and you're like, fuck, I didn't really know
it was that bad.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
I didn't know it was that bad. I mean I
knew that, you know, there was definitely some wild size
to him, but with everything coming out, there's there's some
that I would say is true, and the documentaries that
come out, there's some that's probably exaggerated a little bit,
but there's some that's not exaggerated at all either. I'm
not going to talk about like what topics it was

(01:21:26):
and everything, but uh, I mean it was wild man.
I I was the guy that was truly there throughout
his whole career, right in the same room the whole
entire time. Is But it's unfortunate though what happened, because
the talent was just just through the roof. Man through
the roof, and if we could have kept our tandem going, yeah,

(01:21:49):
we would been just truly unstoppable. But uh yeah, that's
really all I got on that. Yeah, saw it, saw
some of it, but you didn't know it was like
to that extra and not surprise either now either, like
it's like okay, that makes sense now.

Speaker 4 (01:22:04):
Yeah, yeah, when you guys are at practice, he got
charged when you guys were at practice or like like
you guys practice that day.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Correct, it was an off season, it was it was
actually it was yeah, it was during the summer when
no one was actually at the facility and.

Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
When like when when you found out were you like
at first, like there's no way this is possible? Or
were you like that's that's that's a tough question to ask.
What was your thought process when you heard he was charged?

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
Well, he didn't get charged until like after the fact
that it all came out correct, So like when I
first kind of like was the thought process when I
first heard about you know, the situation, the real situation
where I was like, all right, this is trouble. Uh,
you know, surprised, shocked big time? Uh, sad a little

(01:22:56):
bit like no, like no way, Like also disappointed, you know,
like like why would you do that? Like like why,
like what's going on? We got the whole world in
front of us, We got the world by the balls,
especially you know you and I as the tandem, Like
we got the best team out there everything. So it
was it was shocking, you know, it was sad as well,

(01:23:17):
you know once once you really realize what truly happened.

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
Yeah, how was Bill Belichick? Aside from what you get
to see, whether he's uh in press conferences, the coaching side,
the Art of Winning book, Like, what's he like kind
of off the field or away? Because I think there's
a story where he showed up hammered to Randy Moss's
one of his costume parties or like a Halloween, like

(01:23:40):
what's a what's another what's a fun side of Bill Belichick?

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
All Right, here's something that a lot of people really
don't know is that he never really cracks jokes, you know,
and he's always got that serious face and team meetings,
but every once in a while, like once every two weeks,
he would just come in with an absolute fucking banger,
bro I'm talking banger, and he would actually have a
smile on his face right after he would just drop
some knowledge or some you know, over the top joke

(01:24:06):
that just landed every time with the team, and everyone
would just be on the ground, that's fucking dying laughing.
It was so it was always vicious too, the joker
or whatever, the knowledge was always vicious. But when he
came in with that, it always lightened the mood. It
was every it was once in a blue moon. But
when he did do that, man, it was good ship.
We all appreciated it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
You ever get to you have a party with Bill.
He ever partaking the Gronkowski Dances.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
Actually he showed up to the first Grunk Beach ever
when I first retired. It was in Miami. It was
at that Super Bowl like uh five six years ago,
and he showed up to that grunk beach, which was
really cool. But other than that, he was there for
like five minutes. He's like, Yeah, this isn't really for
me showing face. Really, let's go. Yeah, he's great, but

(01:24:52):
I think he loves he loves the party scene more
than ever right now. Actually at parties. I mean he's
not like he's right picking out, I mean, but he's there.
You know, he's doing his thing, and you know, he's
loosened up big time ever since he left being a
head coach in the NFL, which is cool to see.

Speaker 4 (01:25:09):
Were you surprised about that him loosing up after he
became a head coach after he left the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Definitely, definitely surprised. I thought he would keep that mantra
even like going on to whatever you know, he was
going to do next after the NFL. I'm sure he
probably has that mantra while coaching, you know, the tar heels,
but like on the outside of everything else. I was
definitely surprised when he started joining you know, social media.
You know, he joined the media game and he was
more loose, you know, cracking more jokes, smiling more when

(01:25:37):
he was making all his appearances on all the shows
that he was on. But it was really good to see,
Like I was happy for him, man, you know, it
was a different side that everyone got to see too.
But the knowledge he drops as well is always accurate too.
Knows the game of football inside and out better than
anyone else out there.

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
What's it like seeing all the headlines with the Jordan stuff,
with knowing coach Belichick as this no nonsense coach and
seeing all the like theatrics that have kind of came
with on the outside looking in, like with him at
North Carolina.

Speaker 4 (01:26:05):
Guy, that's all about eliminating distractions.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
So that's a little surprising to me because he was
all about eliminating distractions, and like it's kind of I mean,
we can't really say if it's a distraction yet or not,
because well, no, in the win lost column this year,
if he wins every game or puts up eight wins
this year at UNC, well then there was no distractions

(01:26:28):
at all. The distractions sometimes fuels him. I mean, how
much you know, crazy shit did he deal with in
New England From you know, Tom's things to Hernandez, to me,
you know, in some situations, to just a lot of
other things that were going on, and we would just
go out there and win constantly at a at a
you know, at a rate that's never been seen before,

(01:26:48):
and win super Bowls even though there was things going
on the outside. Uh you know that didn't you know
that we're trying to distract us, but want to get
to us because we would block it all out. But
still if there was something going on and it was
just at like just bickering you know, at the team

(01:27:08):
and like everyone had to deal with it, he would
kind of say something, you know, like a kind of
like amp and down a little bit, you know, media, Yeah,
like hey, this is going on, Like can you just
kind of diffuse the situation. So I kind of feel
like he's not diffusing the situation at all when it
could be diffused a little bit more, and it's becoming

(01:27:29):
a distraction to the whole entire program at the University
of North Carolina a little bit. So, uh, it kind
of goes against that. But like we said, he's also
loosened up tremendously and he's kind of a you know,
changed you know, personality since being a coach in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
But just overall, I think like football needs to come.
Once football comes, you know, I'm excited to see how
all that goes. You know, I'm kind of getting ann
about all these other things that talked about with Bill
right now. It's like, let's see this guy coach. You know,

(01:28:05):
if this guy dominates, well, then let it be. And
if he loses out right from the beginning and he's
one in three, that could be a serious problem.

Speaker 4 (01:28:14):
If he starts out one and three, you need to
fly out to North Carolina and have a one on
one meeting with him. We got to eliminate these distractions.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
I'll have University of North Carolina hiring me as like
president of all sports. Yes, so I can be president.
Wants to beat you, You're in there and be like,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
Tom and Edelman all flight all above them too. They
all have to be above them.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
Eliminate the distractions.

Speaker 4 (01:28:42):
Come on, what are we doing out here?

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
Yeah, you want to win or not? That's what we
got to focus.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
We'll see, We'll see what happens, you know, Yeah, we'll
see what happens.

Speaker 4 (01:28:49):
One in three.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
I'm going I'm pulling from. He'll be great for football.
It'll be great for college football, like the Dion effect,
you know, like how much better? Like no one watched Colorado,
It's like no one watch you, and like everyone tuned
in everyone, it will be tuned into you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
And see for sure when Tom and Bill end up
breaking up, Tom, you go with Tom to Tampa Bay.
From your vantage point, what did you see happening there
on the inside between their relationship, because you were saying
in the beginning of your career, Tom's sitting there as
baby Bill Belichick. He's Bill Belichick's son essentially, and then
they get to the end you hear about how they're

(01:29:25):
not really getting along culturally. They think that they're going
different directions. Tom and everybody, you guys lose to the
Titans in twenty nineteen, ending your dynasty and then retired.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
You're right, that's why you're a dynasty, do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:29:36):
So what do you what did you do see happening
between them and that breakup?

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
Well, yeah, like I said, I mean I was surprised.
I mean, if you go all the way way back
to my rookie year, it was definitely like a different
mindset or positioning that Tom was in like he like
I said, he was like Bill Belichick's son, my rookie year.
I would say, I mean, I really can't talk for
Tom or Bill like on how the relationship, but I

(01:30:06):
would just say what kind of really happened was that
Tom was probably growing older, you know, and was like,
you know, wanted to freelance more. I would say, doesn't
have to be treated like a rookie. And it was
still going on, uh, And I would say he was
getting over that situation even though it was kind of

(01:30:26):
like that, you know, my rookie year.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
Yeah, and he he was, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
Guys, thirty five years old now thirty six, and doesn't
need to be treated like arguably the goal yeah, probably
already the greatest of all time. It doesn't need to
be treated like a rookie, you know. And I would
say the tensions started feuding over things like in that
situation between them two, that's kind of like how I
how I saw it in a way. And then eventually
neither of them were gonna you know, you know, twitch

(01:30:55):
or like Ben the knee or Ben then yeah, bend
the knee. So the tension just started heating up. I
would say, and eventually, you know, the divorce happened, But
our details or what they were truly thinking, you would
have to ask one of them. But from an outside perspective,
like player, I would say that's kind of how the case,

(01:31:15):
you know, kind of started and ended.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
When those topics are getting talked about in the media
is when we you're like, oh, yeah, this is gonna
come to the surface sooner or later.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
Uh yeah, And then it's also like, wow, it took
that long for it to come to the surface as well. Yeah. Yeah,
Sometimes the media is right, it's like wow, it took
them that long. But then sometimes it's like, wait, they're
already way ahead of the game. How did they already
know that it was that that was already coming to
the serface, or they would come up with something that
wasn't even up to the surface and it was never
going to come up to the surface. But there's some

(01:31:45):
things where it's like, whoa, it took them that long,
and you're surprised, you know, now with media these days,
when media doesn't catch on to something and it takes
a while to get out, you're surprised with that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:54):
Yeah, what were the conversations that took place to get
you out of retirement into Tampa.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Well, everything had a you know check out for me.
It wasn't just one situation that was gonna you know,
get me out of retirement. First off, I had to
be feeling good again. I was really beat up, you know,
those last two years in New England, and it was
getting tough on me, you know, playing on a weekly basis,
like the Sunday game. I couldn't recover until like Saturday,
the following Saturday, and then to practice and all that.

(01:32:21):
It was just becoming miserable. I mean everyone experiences that,
and that's why everyone retires, especially because if you weren't
experiencing that and you're experiencing the joy of like playing,
like when you're in twenty three, why the fuck would
you retire, you know what I mean. So when it
gets starts getting miserable and hard, you know, that's when
you want to walk away from the game. And that's
what I did. But I was really beat up too.

(01:32:41):
But I was like, you know, you're kind of evolving,
you know, throughout your whole career. I involved found different situations,
you know, to recover. Also different workouts you know that
can keep me on top of my game. Also kind
of needed a different scenario, you know, different program, you know,
So when time went to Tampa, we just talked about
it a little bit. My mom lived down there. I

(01:33:03):
love Florida. Totally different organization, felt more laid back. Definitely
put the work in, but still more laid back like
a country club.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
They wanted me as well Tampa. It wasn't just Tom
wanted me. The organization called me up too and they're like, yeah,
we definitely want you be a part, you know, of
the Buccaneers family. I was feeling good as well and
felt like I had more left in the tank. So
every box checked off. And then obviously with Tom going
down there to have that chemistry and just to keep

(01:33:31):
it going on in a new program. So everything just
you know, you know, pled my way and I pulled
the trigger to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
And there it seems it sounds like they were willing
to like cater around your expectation what you wanted physically
to like what your body needed, what you needed as
how old are you at this time?

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
I was thirty years old.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
Yeah, it's like a thirty year three year old tight
tight end was back in New England when you decided
to retire. You talk about the joy and it just
you hated going up to work. Was a lot of
it to the expectation and the stress that would come
with the organization of the Patriots, like the standard that
had lived and they expected you to live by when
you're like, hey, I feel like my body would respond

(01:34:10):
better doing this, or I feel like I should be
doing this workout, because a lot of times you butt
heads with those third party sources that we all use
outside of the facility, and then you try to implement
them inside and the who the whole ego battle kind
of like butts heads.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
Yeah, you hit it right on the money, bro. You
I mean, like you said, you played for a while,
so you understand that. And every player kind of goes
through that experience too. But in a way like I
like in New England, like coaches never gave off anyone
from practice. But like at the end of my career,
I was like, I can't be playing in a game
on Sunday and practice full speed Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Like

(01:34:47):
I'm blocking guys. Think about what I'm doing. I'm running
thirty five routes a game as well, like a wide
receiver and I'm trying to block three, you know, three
hundred pounders sometimes d ms that are two hundred and
sixty pounds linebackers that are running all over the place
on a continuous basis, every single place. So my energy
and effort, and I'll put it is higher than anyone
else out there on the football field if you really

(01:35:09):
think about it, because of the routes I got to
run and also to be in shape blacking, and I
just couldn't recover anymore. Like Wednesday would come and I
won't even want to hit anyone in the nine nine seven.
I'd be like yo, like I'm just gonna put my
hand in front of you, you know, Like I didn't
even want to hit, Like that's that's a bad feeling.
You don't want to get hit and you're playing the
game of football. But like if I took off like
by like Thursday or Friday, like I was able to

(01:35:30):
do it again, like have that mindset like oh I'm
ready to hit, but like no, no one would get
off in practice or anything. So it was getting tough,
like that mentality that aura in New England, like I
wanted a day off of practice and all that, but
it was just tough, and it was tough to ask
for it too, because of the expectations. Right, So when
I got the Tampa exactly, but when I got to Tampa,

(01:35:54):
they were kind of known, like, hey, we're gonna we
give vets a day off, like you got to be
truly proven though, like and I was proven at that time,
and I was like, okay, I at least get one
day off a week, and every in training camp, every
three days, I get off too. And they were down
for it. Well, they were down.

Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
I bet you could have probably negotiated more coming out
of retirement.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
Yeah, I didn't need more though, But also with the
mindset coming from New England, you kind of feel like
you're letting the team down as well if you're taking
off too much, you know, especially if you're not injured
or you know, rehabbing an injury. But I was cool
with it with my mindset because I truly knew that
I couldn't practice every single day and then be fully
ready for a game on Sunday. And they gave me

(01:36:33):
off every Friday my two years in Tampa, which I'm
thankful for, which you know, I put the work in,
you know, Wednesday Thursday, but I truly believe that's what
got me to play and got me, you know, to
be able to play at the level I played. It
wasn't the highest level of football that I could possibly
play it like I was, but like to play at
the highest level at that age and where I was. Yeah,

(01:36:54):
taking off that Friday to at least make an impact
on the field.

Speaker 4 (01:36:57):
Right, Well got you that incentive too, because there was
that clip that came out of you going up to
Tom being like, hey, I need one more Yes. And
so you guys are you were pulled out of that game? Correct,
and You're like, I need to go back in.

Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
Yeah, well we were. We were whomping him. It was
like the third quarter. We were up like thirty five
nothing or thirty five seven, So they pulled all the starters.
But Tampa's cool, you know, they're cool like that. They
want you to make all the possible money that you
can make Offen the corner of Byron Left which always
said in the meeting, there's two things that you take
away from football. On the end, he goes, it's your
relationships and it's the money that you make. That's the

(01:37:29):
two things that stick with you forever, and he says,
So going in, he goes, if we're up, obviously, the
most important thing is to win the game. But if
we're up and you need an extra catch, we're going
to get you that extra catch. We're going to get
you that money. So we were winning. They pulled all
the starters, but Tom was like, hey, we got to
get one more catch. We drew a play right on
the right on the sideline. Hey, rob motion across. You're
just gonna run a diagonal. I'm going to hit you

(01:37:50):
and boom motion across. I actually false started, but they
didn't get called where you lean forward a little bit? Yeah,
it's called what's that called again? What's the motion? Yeah?
But you uh, where you accidentally moved forward a little
bit on the motion that's appunently you're not allowed to
move forward. Then it is a fall start. But there's
a name for it. I can't think about it right now,

(01:38:12):
but I did that actually, but they didn't call it
because it was the game was just it was that
way out of reach, ran that diagonal. Boom time hit me.
It was it was my I needed I think like
fifty five catches or something. That was my fifty fifth
catch to hit my last incentive in my contract. Yeah,
so Tampa's cool, cool like that.

Speaker 4 (01:38:34):
Yeah, did you ever have incentive based stuff in your
contracts in New England?

Speaker 1 (01:38:38):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
Never? Did you ever miss one?

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
My last year in New England, I basically missed them all,
but my second last year in New England, I base
I hit them all. Did you really? I fout out
myself again going into that last year, but halfway through,
half way through, I didn't even care about them anymore.
It was just like I gotta I gotta survive. I'm
just trying to survive.

Speaker 4 (01:38:59):
Yeah, what was what was the most on you towards
the end? Like you're from your body standpoint, I had
to survive this.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
It was it shoulder? Was your back at all?

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
Again? It was inflammation in my body? Bro insert Adam bobo. Yeah, inflammation, dude,
Like it wasn't anything naga while my back was nagging
a lot, but I was inflamed. But like like I
still have it to this day a little bit like
if I go ham one day two days later, like
I can't move like I'm inflamed, like I'm slow. I
kind of actually have it a little bit today. I

(01:39:29):
haven't worked down like two weeks. I did a hardcore
yoga like forty eight hours ago exactly, and like, I
didn't go too hard in it because I knew I
was coming on. But when I get inflamed, like I'm slower,
Like I can't run as fast, and I was like
I couldn't recover fast enough and get rid of that inflammation.
Even though I started finding ways to do it, It's
just at that rapid rate and I was so far
behind that just that slowness, just that not that burst anymore.

(01:39:53):
You don't have that quickness either anymore, and it just
doesn't want to make you get hit either. Everything hurts
then too. So inflammation was, you know, my biggest killer?
I would say, is.

Speaker 3 (01:40:04):
There a story outside of what you've already talked about
in past conversations where you were going to get traded
to Detroit? You threatened to retire they don't trade you. Yeah,
but was there a story behind the scenes about how
the organization was kind of handling your situation that isn't
known or that you haven't kind of talked about because
everybody's aware that you did the whole threat to retire
they don't trade do You're back in New England?

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
Well, that was a tough year. We lost to the
Philadelphia Eagles that year actually in the Super Bowl after
we after the comeback versus Falcons, so we went back
to back Super Bowls. We were actually almost three Peter,
we went to three Super Bowls in a row, but
we just lost the middle one versus Egles. But that
year was tough, man, I'm talking just the area of
the organization. I don't think anyone really enjoyed that season.

(01:40:46):
I'm talking like any player, like it was just weird.
But we were dominating, we were still winning, and we
went to the Super Bowl. But just overall it was
it was tough. And uh what what was the question again.

Speaker 3 (01:41:00):
About when they were going to they were going to
trade you tog.

Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
There we go. Now, I say that that's why I
was bringing that up so that whole year. So then
I was being an asshole after that year, you know,
like they were trying to get a hold of me.
I wasn't answering anything. I was saying shit in the media.
I was just being a complete asshole. And then I'm
with Monster Energy and Monster Energy has Monster Jam and
uh at the at at in New England at Gillette Stadium,

(01:41:24):
and I still haven't talked to anyone in the organization.
I was kind of vocal in the media like this
year sucked, like kind of shit like that, like miserable here,
Like I was one of those guys like like that
was like the oral when everyone was saying it sucks
to play in New England, Like there was those that
one or two years that was when the Eagles players
were going to the uh the parade and like ripping

(01:41:45):
on the organization Like yeah, I was one of the
guys like saying it sucks to play there like that year,
like it was just a tough year just overall. So
then I was being an asshole. I go to Monster
Jam and I have to have a press conference there
and it's all the full like for my announcers like hey,
like you got to do the appearance at Monster Jam,
And I was like, oh shit. I was like, this

(01:42:05):
ain't going to go over so well. So I show
up to the press conference in the whole uniform like
I'm a freaking dirt bike rider with the helmet on.
I go up to the press conference and they just
start asking me football questions right away, and I'm just
giving fucking blatant like asshole answers back. And then a
week later is when I get the phone call and
finally I answered, hey, we're going to trade you. And

(01:42:27):
I never wanted to get traded. Actually, I knew it
was going to come down to this sell because of
what I was doing. It was the counter reaction, you know,
the organization was doing back to me like oh, he
wants be an asshole, Well we're going to get rid
of him. And that's when Patricia was the head coach
at the Lions too, and he's like, all right, well
I'm gonna grab Gronk then I'm gonna trade for him.
And I got the call. I got traded, but I

(01:42:47):
was prepared. I was fucking prepared. I knew the phone
call was going to come. I knew I was going
to get traded. I was prepared. Hey, Rob, we're going
to trade you to the Lion. I said, you can't
trade a retired player. Yeah, right on the spot. I
was like, I can't trade me. I'm retired, Like I
just retired, Like you can't trade. My agent's like you're
a genius. True, I've never been in this situation before.

(01:43:09):
And then finally they Bill was like, well then what
the fuck is the problem. When went in, we hash
everything out. I was like, the train never went through.
Then it got acts and actually it would have been
through if I said no problem. But uh, I ended
up playing one more year doing I was like, I
was like, business isn't done. Like I'm just being an
asshole a little bit. Business not done. Let's do one
more year. I'm so glad I went back. I was

(01:43:31):
actually about to retire though too. I was really thinking
about it, but I didn't feel right going to another team,
not at all. I was like, I'm not gonna end
up with another team. I'll do another year in New England.
And we ended up winning the Super Bowl. And that
was my last game in New England, winning that Super
Bowl I think fifty three in Atlanta versus Los Angeles Rams.
I died with that catch up the middle, the twenty
eight yard bomb up to seem to the two yard line,

(01:43:53):
and then Sony Michelle ran the ball right behind me
in for the only touchdown of the game. So it
all worked out in the end.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
Yeah, man made that year with Philadelphia. So hard was
the expectation coming off the prior Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
Uh No, I was beat up a little bit. Still
my body wasn't responding how I wanted it to. But
uh just aura, Yeah it was that. No, that was
last year. Going in was was a lot better than
that Philadelphia season. I remember everyone just was pissed. I remember.
I mean it's just hard to explain, like what like

(01:44:27):
what like why you just had to be a part
of it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:31):
Yeah, off the field, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
I like, off the field, You've.

Speaker 4 (01:44:35):
Done a lot of cameos. I have family guy the clapper.
It sounds like a Venaria clapper.

Speaker 1 (01:44:41):
That's well had. That's why they beat us so bad
in the holly Ball. We were staying away from them.
These guys have the clap.

Speaker 4 (01:44:50):
But dude, you've done You've done all of these different
SpongeBob square Pants, Got to square.

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
Pants still gives me residual checks for like two grand
like ship like every like. I mean the show is yeah,
I love it, and I'm like, when did I do
SpongeBob SquarePants? I remember I sang though like birthday song
in one of the episodes. I still get residual checks
from it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
Of all these cameos that you've done, what was like
the like the thing you were most excited for? Now
do the people call you and be like, hey, we
want growing to do this cameo or were you ever
like calling your agent me and like I heard this
movie's coming out, I heard the show. I love the
show How I Met your Mother. I want to be
a part of.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
This kind of both, you know, especially at first, I
wanted to be a part of cameos, Like I wanted
to live that lifestyle. Like I said, I wasn't saying
no going to the draft any that movie with Jamie
Fox was any given Sunday or right. I love that movie,
Like I'm like, I want to live like that they
were a part of in the locker room after doing
all that good shit, you know, I wanted to live

(01:45:45):
like a movie. So I was just telling my people like, oh,
I'll do any appearance in whatever movie. And then my
very first one actually basically was the Entourage movie. Loved
Entourage growing up as a kid, one of the one
of the best shows like that when I was in
high school, and I told my friends in high school,
so I'm gonna be on that show one fucking day
watch And then I ended up getting in the movie,

(01:46:05):
which was really really cool, and definitely I would say
That was one of my favorite appearances because what's funny
is I was writing my Private Party and so I
actually got to this set and I started taking shots
with everyone because it was like eleven thirty pm at
night and I was going out that night. So I
started getting hammered on the spot and in the scene,
I'm partying in the scene, so it worked out perfect. Yeah.

(01:46:27):
I was actually hammered for that scene right now? Was
that was?

Speaker 6 (01:46:30):
That?

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
Was that line?

Speaker 4 (01:46:31):
I lived when you stood up and screened?

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
No, No, they gave it to me and I took
it to another level. Yeah. Yeah, he was super handicapped.
I was actually coming off the knee injury, so I
was actually at you know, ACL surgery three months prior
to that. But then we also put the arm brace on,
like my arm was still freaking broken. Yeah, I was

(01:46:54):
had a cane as well. It just just went along.

Speaker 4 (01:46:57):
Well, what was it like seeing Vinnie, Chase and Drama
and all those boys after watching that show for so
long and being able to see them, it.

Speaker 1 (01:47:04):
Was the best. Dude. I love them to this day.
I see them at charity events and everything. And seeing Drama.
I love Drama, his character and just Drama as well
as a person, dude, great dude, it was the best
to be just be a part of it, you know,
the dream come true?

Speaker 3 (01:47:18):
Yeah, dream come true? Dude, all this stuff here, we
are all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:47:22):
We are pictures right there, right there's the set.

Speaker 4 (01:47:29):
At Really was that show that if you watched it
you wanted to be Vinnie Chase. You'd be like, how
do I have the ability to live this life?

Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
Well, Vinnie Chase was like too pretty, and like I
knew I couldn't be Vinnie Chase. I was kind of
like I just wanted to. I just want to have
a group like that, you know, a group of boys,
group of boys like that, because I was kind of
like Vinnie Chase, but I was more of like Johnny
Drama in a way. I was like them combined, you know,
like I got you, dude, that show. You got to

(01:47:58):
watch that show.

Speaker 3 (01:47:59):
I know I've seen You've never seen the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:48:01):
You've never seen the show Man the movie too. There's
many the show blows away the movie though, like absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:48:09):
Blow Is he not?

Speaker 4 (01:48:12):
Is he maybe the best character of all time?

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
Written character character? God by Fire Drama you know competes
with it, but he is just phenomenal dude.

Speaker 4 (01:48:20):
I don't think anybody touches in the show. He is
so outstanding. Taylor, He's all right. I knew I saw
you looking at me too. I got the frenchy. He's
pissed off as I step out of the batter's box
in baseball, we can't. Yeah, one wasn't a huge fann't
he wasn't a huge fan.

Speaker 3 (01:48:38):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:48:41):
Well that's why I like you a lot more. Man
the show for you.

Speaker 3 (01:48:44):
Well, all the stuff that you've done off the field.
It's it's rumored that you never spent a dollar of
your NFL earnings. Is that true?

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
Technically it's not true. Uh, well, it actually started working
because Drew game fifty thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:49:00):
Technically it's not true. Technically it is true.

Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
Technically it is true. Yes, what did I say it's
not true?

Speaker 3 (01:49:06):
Nical?

Speaker 1 (01:49:06):
Well, technically I was wrong there, but technically it's true.
I meant it's true. Drew roshand was actually gave me
a fifty thousand dollars up front, like marketing budget at
the beginning, and you got to pay them back over
the time the first fifty grand you made. So I
actually took that fifty grand. I bought me a car,
you know, I paid for my spot up in New
England actually with it, and then as I was getting

(01:49:28):
a couple of deals, I paid them off. But just overall,
you know, I actually I'm very frugal, you know, and
lived you know, with a roommate my first couple of years.
I didn't know how long the NFL was gonna last.
I was a second round pick, so it was like
a four year, four million dollar deal, and I was like,
if I played this contract out, I'll be set for life.
I got two million dollars in my bank, I can

(01:49:48):
make a hundred and two hundred thousand dollars of interest.
I was like, if I only played three four years,
I'm good. And I wanted that situation for me too,
that I could be good as well, Like like if hey,
if I don't ball, if I'm not the player, you
know that, I think I could be whatever, I'm still
set for life, because two million in the bank is
set for life to me, you know at that time.

(01:50:08):
So I just always wanted to save it and I
just used my money that I was getting off the
field to just spend it on whatever I needed to
spend it on. And then Therefore it just kept continuing
and to this day, technically I have not spend any of.

Speaker 3 (01:50:24):
My into crazy. How when you're young, you have the
mindset like, if I'll have two million dollars, I'll be
set for life. And I know, obviously two million dollars
is a lot of money, But as time goes and
you get older in your lifestyle that you do have,
you're like, oh, fuck, two million. Two million wouldn't get
me very far if I continue to like live the
way you think you can live right first on a
deal for like four years four million dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:50:45):
Yeah, it's scary how there's always a new level to it.
Like you think, if I can get to this point,
that's all I need, blah blah blah. But then you
get to that point and you're like, what is this?

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
What's going on here?

Speaker 4 (01:50:55):
There's a private aviation you can get on a plane
and just kind of go where you want. That's pretty crazy,
and always just it's always changing. It's always, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:51:02):
I told you he's gonna be quiet the whole entire time.
He's gonna let us know when it's his turn. And
now he's letting us know it's his turn, all right,
but buddy, buddy, we still got a little bit longer,
just a little just a little bit harder. We'll give you.

Speaker 4 (01:51:15):
We'll give us ten, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:51:16):
Give us a little bit longer. Buddy. I told you though,
I call him. I know this guy way too. Uh yeah, see,
come do come up here, good dog.

Speaker 3 (01:51:24):
Don't you think about old Ravees in New England?

Speaker 1 (01:51:26):
I think that's I mean, I was waiting for this
subject to come up actually because you guys know Rabes.
You guys both played for him. But I think that's
the perfect fit, you know, for New England overall, just
for the organization, for the fan base, for the Craft family.
Uh you know, I just love his mantra. I love
what he stands for. I never really met Rabel before,
just for a quick second. I've heard plenty of stories

(01:51:47):
of him because he was that first era of being
a you know, a Patriot and winning all the Super Bowls,
but just to see the way he progressed as a
coach too. That's why he's such a good fit too
for New England, because he's established. He put his time
in as a player, put his time in as a coach,
going to Ohio State, working his way up going to
Houston is like what DC or whatever and getting the head.

(01:52:08):
So he took a step every single way to get
to where he is and I think he just has
the personality just from just seeing it and just hearing
from other players that I think he's the truest perfect
fit possibly possible for the second era, you know, after
Bill Belichick and what they're doing so far in New England.

(01:52:29):
I mean, you can't really argue with any of the
moves that they have made so far. I think they
have made every move, you know, correctly with the draft,
with who they took, all the way from free agency,
they had all that money, they went and got the
guys they needed to get for the positions they needed
to get. You never know, though, like when you make
a team out of free agency, you never know how

(01:52:50):
it's going to be. A guy like rabel I feel
like he can gel him because he's a guy that
can gel people from I mean he played offense before
special teams defense.

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
Those guys, Yeah, they'll tell you, He'll tell you.

Speaker 4 (01:53:02):
He'll tell you. He's done it all too. I mean,
fourteen years in the NFL and he's been the guy
on every part of the entire roster. I mean, if
you look at like the Titans in twenty twenty one,
I think they set a record for the most players
played because of all the injuries, and we were the
number one seed going into the playoffs. Obviously we lost
the first round we played, but that that shows a
guy that can gel his team. I really, I think

(01:53:23):
it just depends on Drake May. If Drake May can
show up in a big way and take a step
from here one year two, like the Patriots could be good,
actually good with all the with all the free agency acquisitions.

Speaker 1 (01:53:33):
I'm going on record to say that they're making the
playoffs this year as well. I don't think you know
that they may they have a chance at the division,
but the Bells, but it's it's AFC. Dolphins are gonna dolphin.
You know, they're gonna look beautiful real quick out of
the water, and they're gonna sink back down. The Jets. Yeah,
I mean, we know they're just too far away still,

(01:53:56):
I mean, uh, and then the Bells are gonna you know,
Bills are good, they're established, They're gonna obviously be the dominant.
But I think the Patriots they can they can sneak
into the playoffs this year. I can see that. I
don't think they're gonna, you know, compete for a super Bowl,
but I think in the end, in the two three years,
possibly yes, But this year they're going to be making
a big impact.

Speaker 4 (01:54:16):
I mean, if you go from what the fourth overall
pick this year to the playoffs the next year, that's
a huge jump.

Speaker 3 (01:54:21):
We should get a speaking of since we're all team
fan duel, we should get a little futures parlay going.
I want to say the Commanders over unders nine and
a half, Titans are five and a half and Patriots
are seven and a half. Wins, get a little combine
them all, futures bed hit the overs, hit the overs
on them all.

Speaker 1 (01:54:39):
Why are we hitting the overs with the Titans? Why
can't we each do the over and then the Titans
we do the under.

Speaker 3 (01:54:44):
You think the Titans will struggle in that win over
get six games?

Speaker 1 (01:54:47):
I don't think so. Now, how many did they get
last year?

Speaker 4 (01:54:50):
Three?

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
I think they got three. I think they got four
or five in them this year? No, was it five?
I know this is the improvement. Yeah, they got they
got the quarterback number one overall pick. But I'm just
saying overall what else did they get. This is a
good page they did.

Speaker 4 (01:55:02):
They paid a left tackle eighty million dollars and they're
gonna move their left eckle from last year. Put all
seventeen games. He was a top ten pick over to
the right side. They got Zeitler at right guard. Now
they got Cushion Berry at center. And then you have
a guy going to his third year that was a
eleventh overall pick. It's Peter Skronski at left guard. So
we have a good offensive line. All right, all right,

(01:55:23):
you got Calvin Ridley and you got two great backs
and Spears and Pollard and you got it really depends
on like cam Ward can If cam Wore can be
who we've kind of seen him be, then they are
going to easily win over five minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:55:36):
It's all on cam Ward.

Speaker 4 (01:55:38):
It is just like just like just like the Patriots,
it's all on Drake May because you got seven and
a half.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
We got five and a half. With that breakdown, you know,
I feel more comfortable taking me over.

Speaker 4 (01:55:47):
I will say, well, let me put a meeting tea meeting.

Speaker 3 (01:55:51):
Maybe we go both options and under one, well under
seven and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:55:57):
Oh yeah, they got we gotta go over if I
say they're making the play, you're saying can be over. Yeah,
and that's a weak division as well. You know monster,
you have a monster yeah with the Bills. But going
over big, I'm going over big time.

Speaker 4 (01:56:13):
We're all just going to be so biased.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
And then what's the.

Speaker 3 (01:56:15):
Commander is ninety and a half and half, which is
a big one, but that is Big Daniels in a
second year, I mean, and they only upgraded their.

Speaker 1 (01:56:22):
Team as well. They went out and got some more talent.
You know, you got Cliff Kingsbury is off in the corner.
He's established. He knows how to handle players, and he
knows how to break down players talent as well and
use it. So I like the over. We got to
do a parlay where it's just all over there.

Speaker 4 (01:56:36):
But big go up to go up to September fourteenth,
it's the first game or September seventh, September seventh, Raiders
dub but Pete Carroll, Yeah, the new running back in there,
Gino Smith is there. They're going to run the ball,
They're going to play good football. Toss up. You said
the Dolphins come out of come out of the water
early in the season and look really pretty now On's

(01:56:57):
in Miami, and that on's in Miami.

Speaker 1 (01:56:59):
It's in Miami. But did you see portnoy break down
the Patriots schedule.

Speaker 4 (01:57:03):
Yeah, I thought he's a great job.

Speaker 1 (01:57:04):
I mean they're going seventeen and oh so he did
do a great job.

Speaker 3 (01:57:09):
He did a good jay.

Speaker 1 (01:57:10):
He did a good job that I like. Usually I looked,
I was like five and a half minutes, like the
first thirty seconds, the first breakdown of the first game.
I was like, all right. I was like, maybe I
can watch five and a half minutes. But he was
so good and entertaining the first, you know, breakdown of
the Las Vegas game, I was like, all right, I
gotta watch every single one. I watched the whole entire
video and I literally walked away like that was good.

(01:57:31):
It might be seventeen, Yeah, that might be.

Speaker 4 (01:57:35):
There's a reason why Daves where Dave's act. Yeah, he
can talk.

Speaker 1 (01:57:38):
But Steelers, we're breaking down the whole schedule.

Speaker 4 (01:57:42):
I'm just looking at seven games.

Speaker 1 (01:57:43):
They're going above seven. I mean, we got the Steelers number.
The Patriots always take down the Steelers no matter what
you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:57:48):
Have, we just do schedule. You got the Panthers it's
very favorite Saints, Browns, Falcons.

Speaker 4 (01:57:54):
Yeah, we feel good about seven and a half. There, Jets,
we feel good about it.

Speaker 1 (01:57:58):
We're going over seven and a half. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:58:00):
The Titians, I know, I talked a big about their offense,
but they are going to have holes on defense, like
they're going to have their cornerback. Their secondary is going
to be a tough position.

Speaker 1 (01:58:08):
And that's gonna be tough on a rookie quarterback then too,
because if rookie quarterback needs help from the defense in
order to get truly established and understand everything going on and.

Speaker 4 (01:58:17):
From behind all the time exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:58:18):
And when you're playing from behind as a rookie, it's
tough to get over that hump. Then you know, it's
tough to win games. I mean, you got to be
truly established as a quarterback in order to understand, like,
all right, this is what we got to do from behind,
this is what we got to do with a shitty defense, right,
that's hired to understand your rookie year.

Speaker 3 (01:58:34):
Yeah, you know in the.

Speaker 1 (01:58:35):
NFL at that position. But uh, I'm down. I'm down
the dude, I'm down to parlay. Actually, I got my
phone right here. I'm gonna put the parlay in right.

Speaker 3 (01:58:43):
Now, at least build it so I won that bet.

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
I won that bet last night. Florida Panther is taking
down you know, the Toronto maple leafs in game seven?

Speaker 5 (01:58:52):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:58:52):
Do you need another moment of silence for that?

Speaker 4 (01:58:56):
Appreciate you, Thank you for thinking about my feelings, but
we do need to We're gonna go to tier talk
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Speaker 1 (02:00:04):
All right, here we go. I got the odds for
the Tennessee Titans regular season wins, but they give plenty
of odds. You can do over three and a half wins,
or over five and a half wins, or over seven
and a half wins. So you're saying the standard odds though,
are over five and a half wins.

Speaker 4 (02:00:18):
What does it say?

Speaker 1 (02:00:19):
Straight up? I don't know. It's minus one thirty for
five and a.

Speaker 3 (02:00:22):
Half wins, and then that's the one that they'll be.

Speaker 1 (02:00:24):
All right, So that's the one we want right there?
So how do I parlay that? Do I go to
another bed? All right, I'll go to the New England Patriots?
All right there, Washington commanders, click that. So what we
want to over nine and a half wins? That's minus
one time. That's the one we want then all right,

(02:00:45):
all right, there we go that that parlay, same game parlay.
And now we're going with the New England Patriots. Where
are you guys right there? Over under seven and a
half minus one fifty. That's it, just clicked it all right?
Oh now it's a plus four seventy three overall.

Speaker 3 (02:01:03):
Four seventy three for this so how much?

Speaker 1 (02:01:06):
So this is a future bat. I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (02:01:08):
Don't do it yet. We might get it.

Speaker 1 (02:01:10):
We could.

Speaker 3 (02:01:10):
We could get a little juice from FanDuel. Yeah, like
we tell them, we get we get done with the bus,
we hit a FanDuel. Hey, we want to put this
rock and the boys parlay.

Speaker 1 (02:01:19):
Yeah, but I'm gonna I'm gonna put a put a
little something on it now and then I'm gonna go
big when they give us that little juice. Yeah, so
I'm gonna do I'm gonna do three hundred. There we go,
three hundred right there, three hundred. I'm gonna win fourteen hundred. Okay,
that's about right there. I'm feeling good, We're all feeling
good about it.

Speaker 4 (02:01:38):
I'm thinking about this tier talk right now. Our Tier
talk today is gonna be best movie couples, So that's
what I'm hearing.

Speaker 3 (02:01:43):
Yeah, best movie couples, which is tough. I thought about
it is it's very hard.

Speaker 1 (02:01:48):
I love like the outside football talk. I thrive. Football
is great to talk about, but I can't talk too
much football. I really can't.

Speaker 4 (02:01:55):
If it came out, you're to talk about more than
just football.

Speaker 1 (02:01:58):
I love talking more. I love off the old time. Yeah,
breaking conversations. My uh so, what's this one?

Speaker 3 (02:02:03):
I'll kick it off with tier talk.

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
All right, Sorry, tear talk is what I live for.

Speaker 3 (02:02:08):
Tier three, Tier two, Tier one. You're ranking them three
all the way. We got honorable mention as well. You
can anson all right, and for an honorable mention, my
first honorable mention is going to be Noah and Ali
from the Notebook. It's a movie that will stay in
the test of time. Great love story. I do enjoy love,
and sticking on the theme of love, enjoy love. I
do enjoy love. I love a good tier drinks.

Speaker 1 (02:02:30):
Love is the greatest drug out there.

Speaker 3 (02:02:31):
Amen. Amen. My Tier three is going to be Jerry
and Holly from PS I Love You. Great tier jerker movie,
right there, Great tier jerker movie where Jerry knows he's
going to die and he writes these little ps I
love you notes all throughout her life she finds them.
It is a very great love story. My tier two
is going to be Rocky and Adrian one of the

(02:02:53):
best proposals of all time, where he says, hey, you know,
what are you.

Speaker 1 (02:02:56):
Doing for the next forty to fifty years And she's.

Speaker 3 (02:02:59):
Like, I don't know why. He's like, you wouldn't mind
marrying me too much? Anything right, And she's like, huh,
He's like, you wouldn't mind marrying me too much? She says, yes,
Rocky Adrian. Great love story. That is my tier too.
My Tier one is none other than Shrek and Fiona
O great ones.

Speaker 1 (02:03:18):
Oh man, you.

Speaker 3 (02:03:22):
Know it gets into the end. She loves Shrek. She
doesn't want to be with the prince, she doesn't care
to be the queen. And that is all time love story.
That is my tier one.

Speaker 1 (02:03:30):
I watched that with Camille last year for the first time,
and I'm in love. I'm in love with Trek.

Speaker 3 (02:03:35):
Yeah, Shrek is a great, great movie. Have you watched
all of them since?

Speaker 1 (02:03:41):
In some comparisons? Yeah, I can't believe you didn't say that.

Speaker 3 (02:03:44):
Well, I mean, you know, no homo, I think you're
no paus really too, I think you're a good looking cat.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah you're not.

Speaker 1 (02:03:52):
I'm in a way.

Speaker 3 (02:03:53):
You got some ogre tenons.

Speaker 1 (02:03:54):
Yeah, there we go. Yeah, shrunkk it kind of looks
like me a little bit.

Speaker 4 (02:04:02):
So now we give one word to describe how we
feel about will Scheer talk. I'll go first, hyphenated, saved it.

Speaker 1 (02:04:09):
What was your one word, saved it? That's two hyphen
Oh that's one. Uh spectacular yeah mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (02:04:22):
Thank you boys.

Speaker 5 (02:04:24):
Yeah, shrunk, m lovely, buzzer beater, emotional, money, strong, touching.

Speaker 3 (02:04:41):
Wow, thank you boys, thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:04:43):
Wow. I was getting turned on from all those descriptions.

Speaker 3 (02:04:47):
Because yeah, because you got that, Uh, I get that.

Speaker 1 (02:04:51):
And yourself really did feel it back there. The emotions
a boy's emotions.

Speaker 3 (02:04:56):
Taylor, would you like to go second? Or should we go?
Do we want to throw the grunk?

Speaker 1 (02:05:00):
All right? So just best movie couples? Yeah, all right,
my honorable mention. I'm gonna go with my girlfriend and
Channing Tatum in in the movie Oh shit, what was
that movie that she was in? Free Guy? In Free Guy?
It was the opening scene. Yeah, it was really it

(02:05:21):
was really touching. It's honorable mention because they weren't really dating,
but like they kind of where it was like going
on a date, like the opening scene. It was. It was,
but I gotta give it honorable mention.

Speaker 3 (02:05:32):
He's a rocket, Yeah, I know he is, and he's
got moves. B you talk about dance.

Speaker 1 (02:05:36):
I know, I wonder what happened behind the scenes. Yeah, So, uh,
that's honorable mention. You gotta see it, free guy. It's
a great movie. She's not she's a hot chick in
the beginning in the car with Channing. Yeah, yeah, there
they are right there, and that's bad ass. Yeah, that's
a good one. It was a badass scene. So I
gotta give her some credit there. She did very well

(02:05:56):
throughout that whole movie. And then uh, I'll go with
number three. I'll go with uh, Justin Baldini and Blake
Lively and it ends with us. Yeah. I still haven't
seen the movie, but it's talked about so much that
I gotta, you know, put them in in in that
ballgame of being top three. I mean, when you talked

(02:06:17):
about that much, it's got to be a power couple,
you know. Throughout the movie. It ends with us, So
that's number three, Number two, Tier two, I'll go with
Shila Buff you say for Shia La Buff and uh
Megan Fox in the Transformers Transformers one one. Yeah, that's yeah,

(02:06:41):
that was excellent, dude, who doesn't love you know, Transformers
one and and they were like an ultra power couple
in that movie, and uh number one. You know it
was a real life relationship at the time too, and
also they made one of the best movies of all
the time. I'm a big action guy, mister and missus
Smith and Jolie and Brad Pitt. Yes, it hit all

(02:07:04):
aspects of that category because they are a real life relationship.
It was a relationship in the movie. And it's also
an action movie and I love action movies. So that's
number one by far for me. Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (02:07:16):
My word fireworks is that two words?

Speaker 1 (02:07:21):
Is that fireworks combined or or with the little dash
like fire dash words?

Speaker 3 (02:07:25):
Fireworks is one word.

Speaker 1 (02:07:27):
It is one word. You're right, Yeah, that's how you're
using it the way you're using just testing making sure.

Speaker 4 (02:07:34):
My one word amazing, boys, shrunk, shrunk again, perfect, incredible, strong, hyphenated, gronk, spike.

Speaker 1 (02:07:50):
Okay, that's one word. Solid, Elite.

Speaker 4 (02:08:00):
And Mister and Missus Smith is one that's not on
my list, And if I could redo it, I probably
would because it's so great, but I'm not gonna take it.
My Tier three is gonna go to Test and Finn
from Fools Gold that's played by Kate Hudson and Matthew McConaughey.
Now at the beginning of the movie they're getting divorced.
The whole movie, they're getting divorced towards Dan. You'll have
to watch it spoiler alert. They get back together. It's

(02:08:21):
a beautiful one in Matthew McConaughey looks phenomenal movie. Not
to educate.

Speaker 1 (02:08:25):
I actually just read his book green Light. I just
finished it. This song very solid. Any chance if you
like to read books, read Matthew McConaughey's book.

Speaker 4 (02:08:33):
Shout out Matthew McConaughey. My Tier two is gonna go
to Vanessa and Deadpool. In the first movie, the passion
that those two have with each other, trying to outdo
each other, and how bad their child childhoods are. They
didn't get engaged with a was it a ring pop?

Speaker 1 (02:08:51):
And then all of a.

Speaker 4 (02:08:51):
Sudden, the big C word comes and obviously we know
how the whole entire movie goes. My Tier one is
gonna go to uh, Jeremy Gray and John Beckwith from
Wedding Crashers. You probably say, Taylor, that's two guys. They
weren't married. Life in business is like a marriage with

(02:09:12):
your best friends. Those two working together tirelessly during wedding
season to grab and stab all these other beautiful women
is something that takes a lifelong friendship to achieve, which
is a marriage. And that is why they're my tier one.

Speaker 1 (02:09:28):
All right, I'll go first. I'll say creative because of
the of your Tier one.

Speaker 4 (02:09:34):
Thank you, waam, greatest hits, Mazzele, top.

Speaker 3 (02:09:42):
Ring, Pop, silver medal, those are those are both need
gotta say hyphen.

Speaker 1 (02:09:53):
Hyphenated. Third place?

Speaker 4 (02:09:56):
Boom boom boom, how many.

Speaker 1 (02:10:05):
Three booms?

Speaker 4 (02:10:05):
Okay, okay, boom boom boom?

Speaker 1 (02:10:09):
Great?

Speaker 4 (02:10:10):
Here can you understand? You understood the assignment?

Speaker 1 (02:10:14):
Like I said, man, outside of football, I love conversation
like football. Can you know go for so long?

Speaker 3 (02:10:20):
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Speaker 3 (02:11:11):
Here's a football here's a question in the football world. However,
I think it involves you being a student of the
game and giving game to the fellow young ones out there.
During the COVID year when a lot of things were virtual.

Speaker 1 (02:11:22):
You are.

Speaker 3 (02:11:23):
There's a story about you potentially wearing different T shirts
while you're doing a sprint workout to send it in
give some game to the young counts out there, and
how you game.

Speaker 1 (02:11:30):
Yes, you got it. Work smarter, not hired or Borys.
You know, that's what it's all about, and that's what
you know, keeps you around a lot harder too. So
you can work as hard as you want. But if
you're doing something that's making you insane and you just
keep working harder, you're gonna get more insane, you know.
But you gotta work smarter, so you're supposed to. You know,
during COVID, you were doing all the workouts at home
and you had to send it into an app that

(02:11:51):
you were proved to prove that you were doing the workouts.
So you actually had to film yourself like benching and
film yourself, you know, running the routes or running the sprints,
but you didn't have to do the whole entire bench
like it was like your last set, or you would
have to, you know, show like two of the runs
that you were doing. So instead of filming myself running
every time, I just filmed so that day you have

(02:12:12):
twelve runs, so you got to show two of them.
So instead of filling myself every single time to submit
the runs, I brought out six different T shirts and
every two runs I would switch my T shirt up
and then film the whole entire run that day, and
then I would submit those two runs with a different
T shirt on every single time that those moments came
up that I had to submit it, and so I

(02:12:33):
tricked them. I tricked them, So technically maybe I didn't
run that day then because I was like, I'll just
use the video.

Speaker 3 (02:12:41):
Yeah, yeah, I hit the bench.

Speaker 1 (02:12:44):
Tricked them.

Speaker 4 (02:12:45):
When did do you? Did you tell on yourself or
did somebody ever find out?

Speaker 1 (02:12:48):
I told on myself, told the story to the reporters
actually that year and then like once like like what
the fuck? I got everyone hitting me up? You're an ass?
He thought it was great. That is a funny, funny
piece of game.

Speaker 2 (02:13:05):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:13:06):
Last question, the bud light question. Everybody knows anybody they
would do anything for a bud light. What is one
one thing that Rob Gronkowski would do anything for? Can't
say family?

Speaker 1 (02:13:18):
Oh uh, well my dog's technically family, right yeah, yeah, girl,
technically family. Yeah. So what would I do anything for? Ah? Dang,
you know that's that's a really good question. I would

(02:13:41):
do anything to be happy at all times twenty four
to seven.

Speaker 4 (02:13:45):
That would be something special.

Speaker 1 (02:13:47):
Well, you can't go against that, right, Oh you know,
I don't think, Yeah, they'd be happy at all times.

Speaker 4 (02:13:52):
What about what about playing your junior of college?

Speaker 1 (02:13:55):
Okay, all right, physically that's mentally so now physically I
would go back. I would love to play my junior
year in college. And also I transferred my senior year
in high school. If I could somehow play that year
that I played in Pittsburgh but also play the year

(02:14:15):
at my old old high school as well. Yeah, so
if I could like do double senior seasons in high
school and play the year my junior year in college
at Arizona, because you do you like when you leave,
like you missed your boy, like I left my boys,
like in high school. You know, I went to a
different school. I was getting trouble and stuff. There's a
lot more to it. But then I went to Pittsburgh

(02:14:37):
my senior year. But like, you know, I'm still friends
with all those guys like to this day, and like
you're leaving them, you know, I mean it's for the
better in the end, Like it worked out for sure,
but like still like you wish you could. You know,
you watch all the high school movies and everything, like
Friday Night Lights and like you wish you could finish
strong with the people you started with, but it just

(02:14:57):
didn't work that way. And same with you know, my
third year, you know, at the University of Arizona. So
I would do anything. You're right mentally to be happy
at all the times. So it's being happy's great, like
and energize and energize and then physically go back and
play those years.

Speaker 4 (02:15:13):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (02:15:13):
What's something you weren't necessarily prepared for kind of kind
of came as a surprise, like during retirement, Like you're
a guy Hall of Fame career, one of the best
to ever do it, and you obviously tasted retirement that
one year and then you came back to Tampa Bay.
But now you're like officially retired. What's something you feel
like you didn't necessarily see coming with retirement?

Speaker 1 (02:15:32):
You know, being on a routine. You know, when you're
playing ball and you're an athlete your whole life, you
always have a routine. You gotta be at practice, you
gotta you know, be in the film room like it's there,
like it's handed to you like a you know, a
schedule every single day, that routine you know what to
do and get prepared for and then once you retire,
that routine's totally thrown out the window. It's kind of

(02:15:53):
up to you now to schedule, you know, when you're
going to work out, when you're going to do this,
when you're going to study, all that good stuff. So
just getting on a routine and when you totally get
off of it as well, it fucks with you. You know,
like you're you're kind of like mentally weak. Sometimes you're
flying all over the place, you're not doing the right things,
you're not getting your workouts in, uh and and all
that good stuff. And you're just so used to doing

(02:16:15):
all that, you know, on a continuous basis, even if
you don't feel like it. You have to do it
when you're an athlete because everyone else is doing it.
You don't have that push around you. So that that
was that's the tough spot, is getting that push, you know,
to get to the next level. And also that routine
of always you know, being on the grind and getting
things done.

Speaker 3 (02:16:34):
Yeah, because when it's snowballs, you're just laying there and
you just get so mad at yourself from falling out
of a routine. Yeah, then you start talking to yourself
like in ways like you said, like mentally weak, Like
I'm fucking for right, Look.

Speaker 4 (02:16:43):
What's happened to you? You look at an old photo
of yourself, like that guy worked hard.

Speaker 1 (02:16:47):
But you guys, you guys got it down though, Like
look at you guys that keep each other, you accountable.
I bet you know doing the show, you got to
get a routine and you know, get prepared for it.
You know, study up. Same thing with myself and Julian. Uh,
we got our podcast Dudes on Dudes, So you got
to prepare for that, get mentally readily kind of physically
ready to because you want to be physically feeling good
at all times. It keeps your mental game sharp. So

(02:17:09):
you just got to find, you know, the guys out
there that want to get on the same page with
you and want to do that as well.

Speaker 3 (02:17:15):
What is it like diving into the podcast world with jewels, Yeah,
it's great.

Speaker 1 (02:17:19):
And what's great about it, Julian already had his podcast
games with names, So yeah, Julian was experienced the podcast.
I never thought it was like really for me. I
always liked going on people's podcasts, but I was like,
I said, no, for like ever, I was like I
don't want to start my own podcast. But then once
I went on Julian's and we had the chemistry, and
then I saw that Julian can carry the load of
the podcast too, the load. We were just talking about

(02:17:40):
that on Sunday Conversations. He's like, oh, Julian takes the
whole load of the podcast. I was like, yeah, so
that just brought you a kind of trigger to my mind.
But I was like, all right, so he's going to
be the like, he's going to be there to help
me along and everything, and it's just great to have
a teammate. So I was like, this is perfect. And
his team around him was already experienced, everything set up
ready to go right when you walk in. So I

(02:18:01):
was like, I can do it now, and it was
just the right fit. It's kind of like going to
Tampa had to be the right fit.

Speaker 3 (02:18:05):
Yeah, do you travel out there to do it each
time you guys do the pod?

Speaker 1 (02:18:09):
Well, I'm in La all the time for the pregame
for the Fox show. Uh So we usually just knock
out an episode or two on like that Monday or
Friday or something, and now that it's offseason, we get
together like we were just in Boston last week. We
knocked out two episodes. But if we're not, we just
do it over zoom. Got Yeah, so half of them
right now in the season are over zoom. The other
half are one we can get in person whenever we can.

(02:18:30):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (02:18:31):
And we got to get all the boys together.

Speaker 4 (02:18:33):
Yeah, we can get the four of us in one room.
That'd be awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:18:35):
There really was, the dudes, it would be good stuff. Gosh,
are you guys? Basically you guys are like football with
a little all football with a little everything else as well.

Speaker 4 (02:18:45):
Yeah, it's like probably seventy percent football and the off
season two. Like I mean we have like comedians, musicians,
like all coaches, players, all these different things.

Speaker 1 (02:18:55):
Yeah, that's what we were. We were basically out football
in the first couple though, and I was like, bro,
I'm not all football, like like I can't. So now
we're switching up with like fan questions or like or
that like tier talk that we just did with the
movie couples. Like we come up with segments like that
now too, And I'm like this is way better. Like
football is great for half of it, but the other half.
I wanted up this freelance was going on what you're

(02:19:15):
doing at the moment, like what you learn, like new technique,
new trick in life or whatever with new hack, just whatever,
just go off. So not just all about football now
we're kind of blostoming more like because of it, hot
topics whatever he's talked about right there. So football is great,
I mean, but like to do it twenty four seven.
I like, I like abroad of you know, of everything.

Speaker 4 (02:19:35):
I'm with you on that, absolutely with you before we
let mister Gronkowski go. Does anybody have a question back there?

Speaker 1 (02:19:40):
They like to ask anybody feel free. I thought that
guy in the middle would ask me where I get
my ivs from me? You know, we already brought it
up where you guys get your ivs from you in Nashville.
So yeah, he does do a good job. You know.
I don't want to give him the credit, but he's
gonna yeah. And he does rehydrate you well. So these

(02:20:03):
unbelievable nurses there that work really hard, yes, and they
actually deserve all the credit, all the women nurses that
he has hired rite in Nashville. They do get you
hydrated and filled you up with the best vitamins in
the game. Those solid Yeah, the nurses you run that company.

Speaker 4 (02:20:20):
Run it run. Yeah, I really do without the nurses
all the work at the beginning, yeah started started. Yeah,
but what we do. Appreciate me for the show. You
were talking about giving us all free i VS like
next two months. So I appreciate you saying.

Speaker 1 (02:20:33):
I agree, and that is awesome. Thank you. And if
you're listening and and you hear this, just walk in
and say I heard you're giving out free i V. Yeah, yes,
on the grond episode free IV.

Speaker 4 (02:20:52):
So that is big time. But you have to give unity.

Speaker 1 (02:20:54):
You have to give it. We're not saying any DAL
vitamin bag, the athlete bag. You have to give out.
Someone comes.

Speaker 4 (02:21:00):
But you remember he was saying.

Speaker 1 (02:21:01):
You were saying that he was giving all of us
n A D for free. Yeah we're getting a yeah,
but they can get If you hear that, you can
get a vitamin bag. Yeah, for free. We don't want
to bankrupt. No, just a big bag.

Speaker 4 (02:21:12):
Get in there, small bag too.

Speaker 1 (02:21:15):
Small, No small bag, big bagsfferent, it's just fluid fluids
five cents, even though you get charged one hundred dollars.
Gotta make a profit. Got to make a profit.

Speaker 3 (02:21:28):
Margins are healthy. Yeah, it's like ice cream, ice cream margins,
ice cream margins.

Speaker 1 (02:21:37):
Did you have a questions? Hey, I got it.

Speaker 3 (02:21:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:21:38):
When when do ice cream companies make their most amount
of money? Yeah? Like what month?

Speaker 3 (02:21:45):
July?

Speaker 1 (02:21:47):
June? See, that's what you think. It's actually May. It's
like right when the weather blossoms, because everyone wants to
hurry up and get there. I heard they make all
their money for the whole year. Yes, June, July, and
August are great, but when it's truly packed, it's the
first month that it as the sun comes out. I
learned that. That's what That's why I've been that's crazy
because everyone goes crazy. It's like when the weather's nice outside.

(02:22:07):
How how bzonkers is it outside WI.

Speaker 4 (02:22:11):
The first week around?

Speaker 1 (02:22:12):
Yeah? Well later in the summertime you go out on Saturday,
it's like, ah, people like, oh, we've seen the sun
every single day now.

Speaker 3 (02:22:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:22:18):
Right, everyone goes ape ship when it's the first you know,
week of nice weather. Same with the ice cream world when.

Speaker 4 (02:22:24):
It comes it comes to the ice ground. I don't
discriminate on weather. I'll take down on ice cream.

Speaker 1 (02:22:27):
In the middle of January.

Speaker 4 (02:22:29):
I love that stuff. Love it. Go ahead, Jackie.

Speaker 5 (02:22:32):
Was the Steve Harvey lego head spike scripted?

Speaker 1 (02:22:35):
Damn, damn, that's a good question, and everyone wants to
know that. Actually, it's still talked about to this day.
That was a legendary moment by far. We were hosting
New Year's Eve on Fox, and uh, I spiked Steve
Harvey lego set of of his head, of his face.
But uh, what was scripted was that I was gonna
spike it. Like I knew I was spiking it. They
had me, uh in the script, Hey, grink, you're gonna

(02:22:58):
spike the Steve le Uh, Steve Harvey legos, not Steve Harvey. Steve.
My names are all over to place. Steve. You're right,
Steve Harvey. I'm getting him confused with another Steve, I know.
But the Steve Harvey lego said, hey, you're gonna spike it.
So when I spiked it, that that was kind of
you know, understood, understood, that was kind of But his

(02:23:19):
reaction was not scripted at all. And I'm not sure
either if he knew I was gonna spike it or not.
I knew I was going to from the beginning. I'm
not sure if he knew, but his reaction was priceless. Man,
Like it felt like he was truly pissed if he
truly was, But.

Speaker 3 (02:23:36):
How was how was the dynamic after around him?

Speaker 1 (02:23:39):
And he was going he didn't bring it up after
like it was like he was like nice Spike, but
like he wasn't like out the screen like why the
fuck did you do that? No? No, like he acted
like that like when it happened. I mean he kind
of got me scared. I was like, oh shit, like
was I really supposed to do that or not? Like
he's pissed. But it was good. It was TV. It

(02:24:00):
was one of my best movements, one of my best
moments on TV of all time. I love it.

Speaker 3 (02:24:05):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (02:24:05):
Boys, We feel good.

Speaker 1 (02:24:07):
Any other questions back there? I know, but I don't
like telling anyone that's scripted because everyone truly believes it
was like right on the spot, like I decided to do.
Steve sells it. Yeah, he sells it big time. Yeah
he solid that good. So yeah, it was scripted, but
it was kind of it was unscripted. Scripted unscripted scripted.

Speaker 4 (02:24:22):
Let's give Rob around applause boys, thank you the prevn
on the b thank you guys for having us man
bossing with the boys.

Speaker 1 (02:24:29):
That's what's up man, Thank you for yes. Oh yeah,
FanDuel is the best man.

Speaker 4 (02:24:34):
This fall is going to be awesome. I can't wait
for it.

Speaker 3 (02:24:37):
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