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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Alright, We're good.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
You like go.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Busting with the boys, Hanging with the fan.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Betting on a game, No moment's gonna.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Tell us would.

Speaker 5 (00:28):
Not be.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
We're here just drinking beer and making a nadle.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Baby, I'm hanging with the Fellers.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
He's busting with the boys.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Yeah, another episode
of Busting with the Boys. We are presented by the one,
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we got college, we got NFL. Everything that happened this
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and if you ever have questions, use hashtag tear talk.
We will feature them on the show and we will
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NFL fan, you're not a big college fan, I will
tell you the greatest and I don't know highly most
highly coveted trophy game and all of college football is
taking place this Saturday in Lincoln, Nebraska. My Michigan Wolverines
are taking on a three to o Nebraska Cornhuskers football
team led by year three Matt Rule. It is sure

(02:34):
to be an outstanding game. The competition is going to
be incredible. As it stands right now, Michigan is four
and oh in their last fourgust Nebraska. Do they turn around?
That's up to him. That's up to Matt Rule and
his boys to figure it out.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Big show, Big show this week, Big Birthday weekend.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Big Birthday weekend is birthday.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Birthday's off we lose this game. I know my birthday
happens on Friday. Yeah, but if we lose Saturday, we
got to be like, all right, birthday thirty five again.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Right, We're just that's a good way to go backwards
in time. Yeah, you'll just restart everything.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
And there was a bet that was suggested, suggested on Monday,
that bet shortly after the show was filmed, was agreed upon,
and that they'll have to find out in the locker room. Okay,
blurt that out. Blurt that out. It'll be on the
locker room. Blurp that out. Make sure you write down
your notes. Mitch bleed that out.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
But for those that watched the recap with the bets
are thrown around, said, we'll talk about it we got
you know, the show happened. Afterwards, we figured something out.
You will find out what that is on the locker room.
This game is everything. The minute the game ended yesterday
between both teams, because I was watching your guys game
a little bit, I was obviously watching the Huskers juggling

(03:44):
the two kidd oh's, I had rue, Hey, we got
to watch the Huskers like this is this is this
is this is not negotiable. But the minute that game ended,
I shot the text. I said it's go time, go
Toru okay, because I was I was literally thinking, I say,
am I CT brain. I'm like, I don't remember getting
a text from you, but you said text. I paced around.

(04:07):
I just paced around my house. You know how I pace, right,
I can't be on the phone and like I'm a pacer.
I probably paced around the house for the next fifteen
to twenty minutes.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
I watched the game Michigan versus Central Michigan. It was
a great game. If you're a Michigan fan, to w
wash it like that's that's what you want to see
going into Big ten play, because that's what this is.
At the end of day, it's it's the start of
Big ten play kicks off. I am at a Hummingbird
thing expedition, Hummingbird Festival, and my wife say, hey, we're

(04:35):
going for five minutes. The whole thing. I did a
whole thing on Twitter about this, where it's like I
inception my wife Thursday Friday, like, hey, they play at eleven.
I love to watch again they played at eleven. I
love to watch the game. Woke up at nine, get
everything done and I get to the farmer's market at
ten or a nine to fifteen, nine thirty ish. We
get everything going and I get in the car and
it's like ten to fifteen and tailoring. My beautiful wife.

(04:57):
I love her to death, seriously, She's a great thing
that's ever happened to me. How Ever, looks me in
the eyes and goes, there's this hummingbird thing going on,
Hummingbird Festival right on Highway one hundred. I told the
kids about it. They really want to go. First off,
tailing and your family watches the show. Shame on you.
Shame on you for telling our kids about it before
you even came to me. Shame on you about that.
That's not okay.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Knowing that this situation, this moment was going to come
up because whether.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Taylor you're corner, yeah, whether Taylor wants to not remember
or remember, I guaranteed the words were said because I
had a little note thing on my phone saying how
many times you shay the tailing? And I checked it
off six or seven times. So I was keeping because
I know my brain. I can get a little bit.
Whoa everyone, So all right, I start getting a little seat.
I take a couple of hits. I dove into a
few too many piles, so I know I can forget

(05:41):
some things sometimes. So I wanted to make sure I
took care of my house first. Make sure you mentioned it,
Tand they play at eleven that started Thursday when I
got home from ESPN played eleven Saturday on Saturday, and
so I'm at this Hummingbird festival and I am I mean,
kids are having a good time. God bless them, God
blessed my children. They have little these little passport cards
to get stamps on arts and crafts everywhere. I'm sure

(06:04):
they had fun. Win rebela won. My daughter is like, Mommy,
we shouldn't stay very long because Michigan plays that was big,
that was made. I bribe my kids. I do oh yeah,
assume me I got I went to five daughters. I said,
I got us. I got got us a six pack.
You guys want to watch the game with daddy. These
are available to you if you watch the game with daddy.

(06:25):
And I did say if they're jaskeed, all go blue, Daddy,
go blooe, we're all bad. We're gonna beat them when
it's going to people and the farmers are not gonna
be in Like you know, Michigan beat beat Ohio last year.
She didn't say. I never told her, we don't say
Aho State because I think that's kind of lame as fuck.
But uh, she keeps going, we keep beating Ohio. We
can't lose to Ohio. All these things. I go, I

(06:45):
watch the game. It is what it is? You said,
you paste?

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
I took a nap right after. It felt good. It
felt good to see that game.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
You guys have you guys, we're gonna different and different
spot culture wise.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
What I like about this game is it's gonna be
so telling for both both programs. You know, you got
this two five star quarterbacks going on it. Both considered
to be generational talents. I love what Matt Rule has
done with that program. I love to turnaround you play. Yeah,
you've played nobody's but at the end of the day,
like you've produced against nobody's the way you should produce.

(07:20):
And that's the sign of a really good football team.
Big fan of Rule. Who's Dane Holgerson. He's a study,
Especially Mike Eckler, big fan Eckler. I said this already
on the show Cincinnati. I'm looking to make I'm all,
I'm a big greag, that kind of like showing off.
I'm supporting the boys, and I go, but in a
couple of weeks it's not gonna be the same. And
he looks me dead in the eye and says, we

(07:40):
don't fucking need your support. And that's beautiful. I got,
I got Nebraska fans, Fuck you, Taylor, all the things
good good Nebraska is on the right track. I love it.
I absolutely love It's gonna be a gret game Saturday.
I can't wait.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
So how did it go with the daughter story?

Speaker 3 (07:59):
I ended pretty much. I mean, we get to the house.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Like, did you stay right right?

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Because I started ask we get there like the second
half is starting while I'm in the car still and Buddy.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
So did you take the donuts away?

Speaker 3 (08:14):
I told the kids were walking the car.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
They go, let's go.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Hold watch the Michion gave me to donis you go?
Rumors are sorely the donuts are no longer available.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
I would have been working the politics. This would have
been a game of survivor. Wife tells me that, hey, sweetheart,
you know, hey, if we go to this Hummingbird thing,
donuts are.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Going, don'ts are gone.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
I would have bought ten fifteen extra minutes. The would
have been an uber and a black suv would have
pulled out a bed.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Sweetheart. Yeah, you guys go to the It's hilarious. Do
we win? And at this I'm like, sitting there, I'm like,
I'm obviously not present right now, but it's like I
know that my wife knows that my kids are pretty
aware of that that I don't want to be here,
and it's like if my kids know, I pop on
the YouTube TV on my my phone. I just got

(08:54):
it sitting there. Funny enough, some guy next to me,
he's like, it's twenty one zero and I go, you
talk about the Michigan game. He goes, I can't get
it up on my phone. I bet service and a
buddy come over here. We started watching the game together,
made a couple of friends. So I ended up working out,
But still Tailing you can't you can't operate like that.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
You got to have good situational football. That's one. Hey,
this is ship that gets you beat.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Right, And I think that Taylor would argue that is
good situational football because that's the ship that got her
to a Hummingbird festival.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Because you guys are not aligned, You're not on the
same team, right, know what I mean? Right?

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Right?

Speaker 3 (09:25):
And yeah, it's it's it's tough for me to say
that Tailor cares about Michigan as much as I care
about Michigan. It's tough. She's a Canadian. She doesn't understand
American college sports.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
She doesn't understand the team keys going to the weekend was.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Let me tell you where Tailor's fucked up. After the game,
I'm talking to Taylor after my nap, I'm talking to Tailoring,
and I'm telling her how, like, how big of a
game this is for you, and if it doesn't go
the way for you, it might affect our relationship in
a way that I don't know if we can come
back from and Tan goes, there goes, that's what are
you talking about? Like it's isn't it a bit with

(10:00):
Will in Nebraska? Honey, we all thought it was for
the last four years, we all thought it was. But sweetheart,
I hit it with the sweetheart too sweeter. I really
think at this point he believes the words that come
out of.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
His mouth.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Consistent, and I'm not no, I think that Brassa is
a good ball club. This year. I'm saying, like the
three and nine year, the seventh, like last year, the whole,
like the whole, the whole thing works where it's like
Will is truly believing all this, and I think if
it doesn't go his way, like Bustin, might be in trouble.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
No, because if you if you trust my words, then
I've always said our related that thishing is gonna happen
to a relationship like yeah, it's gonna suck.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Like I said, I'm Michigan and Nebraska player. We want
Michigan won forty five to seven. And shortly after that,
Will you told me that you want Michigan to fail.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Because the way you would just pat me on the
head like I can't help the way I react to
the things that you might do. But I'm just saying, like,
the reason I'm so juice is I care. I care
about the programming. It's not just this one game. Like
there's no taking a nap on any week after Nebraska
places because I'm thinking about the next week, the next week,
the next week. If we get this game, it's out
there for us. It's out there for us to run

(11:05):
the table. If we take a lump in this game,
we're gonna have to bounce back. But it's like, what
what team do we have? And is it gonna have?
Are we gonna get are we gonna get beat my
Michigan's gonna be Michigan, USC and Penn State. Then you're
not in the playoffs if you lose three games, like
I still go to it. No, we're taking care of Iowa, buddy.
That's where my confidence. My confidence goes up to that point.
But now I'm at the I'm at the spot of

(11:26):
like the the real healthy optimistic nerves of like, is
this is this the the era? Is this it? We
look good? I know we've played some slapticks, but this
is you know, you're a little I'm nervous for the
game in general. Yeah, of course I want to beat you,
but it's not If this isn't like a If we
get beat I'm just gonna be sad and I'm gonna

(11:47):
be disappointed and I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have
to handle myself a lot better because I could be
like a caged animal that you know, Mike loses himself
and I'm gonna have to call therapist right after the
game if we do lose the.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Game, right, Can I just tell you to how the
last couple of hours have gone this Monday, I'm worried
about your mentals of mis If Michigan wins.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
That's okay, that's again, that's if we're If we're coaching
ball inside of Will's body, that's outside noise, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, but I'm saying the outside action. I don't know
what's going inside your body, but the outside action is like,
is Will okay right now? And it's Monday?

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Oh yeah, I'm buddy, I'm excited. I'm ready to go.
But this is this is our first big test, you
know what I mean? Yeah, Like, this is me, this
is me. Any big tests we have, and if I'm thinking, like, hey,
we can win this game like this is This is
Willy c Twenty four to seven with the Huskers.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
This game does mean more, but it's you know. Oh listen,
we're gonna be fine.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Tell him about our beautiful guest afterday.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Will the misz just a specimen of a human being,
good looking cat. And then he gets here in a
few minutes. Oh miss is here. Wow, Oh the miss
is here. The miss is here. Here, he's he's in
the building. He is in the building.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
He's ready to come on the bus.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
When ady, I here's all I hear. Put this, run
this through the chain. If Miz can talk some ball,
he can come on right now and we can talk
some ball.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Can Miss hear me right now? He can't, mister Mizz,
mister Mizzy. There Taylor hold on ud oh JP asking
if he knows ball?

Speaker 4 (13:21):
He does he love ball.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
I'm gonna doing the role play thing with you again
because I see the Roe spicy tear talk on here,
and I remember the the back and forth of you
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Speaker 1 (14:33):
In the building, I walked, of course, god, and I
was so angry. I was like, wait a second off,
and I see, yeah, I don't want to I want
to be in the bus because I thought it was
a bus.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
You look you look sharp, of course, yeah, you are fantastic.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
I want to dress up for you guys.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Okay, yeah I got it. I got to head the deliverables. Yeah,
give it up, no doubt about it. Where's moving? Can original?

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Really? And so I was telling your guys over on
the other side, I was like, I was expecting, like
in the middle of a like a field, just a
bus and literally you walk on the bus. And that's
what I was expecting. I was literally expecting to walk on.
I was not expecting like it was a huge and
got some stuff going on. Big you got a ton

(15:27):
of stuff going.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
But it didn't start like this. It started in the
back of a gravel parking lot.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
It started how well you expected it.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
That's the origin store I wanted.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
That's what I wanted.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
My give going on a generator. We would have had
to cut the A C because it makes too much
noise and we would have been sweating. You would have
been really sweating.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, yeah, I would have done it, though, I would have.
I would have been.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Because you're a grinder.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, I'm a man of the grind. Let's go.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
You're a man of the grind. Absolutely. So what we
just did right and that just recently was we are
we rolling right now? Well we did this recently read
an ad for roast sparks and we usually do like
a spicy little tear talk that goes with it. Sure,
what's the category today?

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Celebrity crushes? Celebrity crush?

Speaker 3 (16:04):
So okay, this I think is a good This is
a good ice breaking situation for them is himself? Okay?
Can you seem like a ladies man? You see, like
a guy that can handle his business between the sheets. Okay,
I'm sure before the yeah yeah, and amazing as well.
Celebrity crushes though I was when you were a kid. Now,
the way tier talk works is you can have an

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honorable mention if you want, if you like, there's more
than three, then we're gonna go to tier three and
we're gon say this is my third place person, Tier two,
and then finally your tier one will be it.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Okay, I have my tier I have my Tier one.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Right and out of respect for you and you're getting
comfortable on the bus, I'm gonna have Will Compton go first.
Oh oh yeah, I'm gonna have Will Compton go first, okay,
because I've got two in my head, but I need
I got three. Actually, I'm good to go.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
How many do I need? Uh? Three? Three?

Speaker 4 (16:55):
If you have more, you can just start throwing a
honorable mentions, right because this might turn into.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Like, oh oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
It is going to turn into that. Because it's hard
for me to think about all my celebrity crushes throughout life,
I do have some to jump out at me. I know.
I'll just say this for my Tier three. When I
was a young little boy, I loved uh Poison Ivy
in Batman Poison. I had the poster. I might have
kissed the poster a couple of times. I was young.
Yeah I was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. My Tier two,

(17:25):
I'm gonna say to Panga from boy Beats World, massive
massive crush to and my Tier one. Listen, this is
this is Margot Robbie. This is the top spot Margot,
Margot Robbie, Wolf of Wall Street, Like.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Wait, how old are you? I was old like five
years ago.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Yeah, this is one where even with my wife married
has kids. Yeah, I have a wife. She knows I
love Margot Robbie. We might watch the Hall Pass movie
and I might be like, hey, Margot, Robbie, and she
might say somebody, Ah.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
That would be hers. Like what would be like, hey, hell?

Speaker 4 (17:59):
But that right? Have to shut it down.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
I heard Charles a lot of things about the guy
who hosted the Netflix show Battle Camp.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Have you heard that? I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
That's on Netflix. Yeah. I didn't get season.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Two, so good though.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Who is the host of the.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Yeah that's yeah, there he is. And I got to
give an honor will mention to Patty man aise from
Doug Mention Patty man as from.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
My favorite cartoon growing up as a kid. Yes, sir,
Oh my god, yeah, Doug. Yeah, Yeah, it's Doug. Right.
They're saying Doug in the song they got.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
I thought it was dud at the Maybe it is.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
I think it's more of Google.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
I feel like it was like, I don't know man,
I uheter yeaheter geter.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Oh yeah, mister miss please keep that microphone closer to
your face, just for just for everyone who's listening my
Tier three project. It does okay, some guys, that's okay.
That's why he's he's got a big of his microhone
because he's a popper as well, my tier three, and
I'm having a hard time kind of like putting these everywhere.

(19:14):
But Kerin Diaz Charlie's Angels growing up.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Oh I forgot Pamia Henderson.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, Pamela Anderson and the one we'll get her the
atto mention that can be for all of us, unless
you disagree.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
I mean I didn't go yet.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Okay, yeah, you're right. Oh Also, dude, I'm not even
knowing my own show. So after tear talk, we go
around the room and we give one word to describe
how we feel about the individual's tear talk. So for Will,
I'll say hyphenated spot on. Yeah, Mitchie, go ahead, good,

(19:54):
hyphenated roast Sparks.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
I don't know what I'm saying. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Uh yeah, that's not that's too weird.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Solid, just solid, okay, mister.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
And miss Fire, Oh there we go.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Very nice. So Cameron Diaz is my tier three. My
tier two is going to go to It's gonna have
to go to Topanga. It's gonna go to Topanga. From
Boy Meets World. I think every kid first off the show,
the lessons it teaches you incredible. Mister Feenie. On the
other side of the fence. But anytime Topanga walked into

(20:28):
that screen and that same hallway that with all the
locker rooms, or they're in the cafe, it's like, that's
our girl, that's our girl that we grew up with.
Hell do you are you?

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Are you going to vote for her on Dancing with
the Stars.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Oh, I've kind of fallen off the PA since I'm
really going back in mine.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
I understand, but this is your childhood. She's dance. She
needs your vote.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah, okay, so maybe I will.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Okay, it's a good point.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
I need a support.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Shocked You guys aren't on Dancing with the Stars yet?

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Shocked too, Huh?

Speaker 1 (20:56):
I mean would you do it?

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (20:59):
You would?

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Yeah, yeah, i'd right, guy, give my best shot. Yeah.
I don't know if I moved very well, but I
would love a great job. Yeah, you get some really
good training.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
I feel like he's a unique white boy. My tier one,
I forgot who it is, Oh, Nordon, My tier one
is Mela Conez from that seventy show. I loved Mila Conez.
I think, I mean, to this day, I think she's beautiful,
She's incredible. I just can't say enough about her. Big fan. Okay,

(21:33):
big fan and that is my tear talk.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Love it solid love, yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Hyphenated and nailed it. Can I have one more? Oh yeah, rocket, yeah,
one more honorable that mentioned. It has to go Megan
Fox and Transformers.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Oh buddy, oh that is my tier talk. There's this
galto in the music video. I like the way you
move in that music video. There's a gal she's a
dark skin that I was into.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Who was the who's the girl? She's a super famous model.
She was in the uh everybody get out okay match.
I knew he'd fall for that one. Yeah, that one
that moved it around too, that moved it around.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
That was the first time that you're like, wait, this
is a music video. Yeah, this is this is not peace?
This ar right, this is this is a little much.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah. I remember also the first time the wap Up
music video came out and I saw it in the
locker room at the Titans with Russ Grim, who's our coaches,
like sixty five years old hall of Fame guy, and
watching that with all the guys, it was like, those
ladies are too much for me. I would not be
able to handle that in the bedroom. But it was

(22:55):
an aggressive deal.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
That was Ani deal.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, do I get to go.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Making good? Shout out making good as well? Good God?

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Miss all right, so all right my tear talk. All right,
here we go. So do we do honorable mentions first
or last? You know, I'll do third place? Third place.
I might be a little older than you guys, and
I think I am. So I'm gonna go with Saved
by the Bell, Kelly Kapowski, Amber Theeson. And since we're

(23:30):
going with cartoons, I mean you went Panty Banna's. I mean,
if you want to go with a cartoon, you go
with Jessica Rabbit.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Likes curves?

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Do you not even know?

Speaker 2 (23:41):
I feel like I tell me the show show it's
a movie and a red dress, look cocktail dress, Big
Bazongo's big grade pool.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
I gotta give me.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
And I can't believe you didn't even know who that?
Have you been seen? Who framed Roger Rabbit? I might
be in a I don't know if I have.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
I don't think I have. How old are you?

Speaker 1 (23:59):
I'm turning forty five?

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Oh so you and Will the same age? No, he's
thirty forty sixth thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Day before my daughter? Okay, And number one is Pamela Anderson.
When I was a kid growing up, there was nothing
bigger than Baywatch, nothing bigger than Pamela Anderson honorable mentions.
I had posters of Chenaia Twain, my Walk and uh,
for some reason, Victoria silversit. I think I just found
that at the local Spencer's and I was just like,

(24:30):
this is a hot chick. Let's just put it up.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
We can we get a picture of I don't even
know who that is, Victoria Silverson? Is that what it was?

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Erico Lydiac was the first Playboy I ever saw.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Nice dude. There was a place down Eighth Aven. I
don't know how familiar of Nashville, but they have this
place called Cool Stuff. We were things And I walked
in there with my wife and I first met and
they had like five or six like shelves full of
like old Playboy vintage magazines and I bought like a
bunch of them for like twenty bucks. And it's like
different world back then in seventies. Yeah, a different world

(25:02):
back then.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Well decade, it's like, you know, I know, you got
we think. Yeah, I'm just gonna say, what was it
like in the magazine era?

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Oh my god, I mean it was I remember a
time when there was an internet.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Do you remember a time when there's no internet?

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Like I remember? Yeah, I was young, Like what was
the year that.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
The like six or sorry, nineteen ninety six or seven?

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Yeah, around then, I'm like eight years old, seven, eight
years old, so.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
I'm going into high school. Yeah, so, like I remember
the AOL and I remember like the dial up version
where it takes an hour just to do anything, Like,
I remember those days.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Can you make a mistake in a conversation? You sign out?
Re sign in? Hey I got hacked? Yeah, basically just
change your name to a bunch of lyrics or something.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Simple. Times back then too, man like this right here,
stating by that and having the foma of knowing all
your friends are online to.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Go outside and play. Yeah, that's what we did. Like
we played all day instead of being online all day.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Well like video games, right, Nintendo sixty four guy, No,
I was an ORIGINALGA Genis. Oh my god, that was
the one for me. Like I liked it better than
Super Nintendo.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Really, you're saying you like the Sagamore, right.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
I like Sega Way, I like Sonic the Hedgehog. I'm
a big fan.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Were you did you play Madden on Sega where you
had to like double tap the buds When I was
the big Madden.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Guy, I was more of like a Mortal Kombat guy. So, like,
I liked the Sega Genesis version because there was blood,
and then the Super Nintendo didn't have blood, So I
like the the Sega Genesis.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
They need to be crushed. When mom would tell you
we got to go take it back to best Buy,
what do you mean take it back to the video
game store?

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Oh my god, Yeah, it's my fault Blockbuster. Yeah, back
in the day. Yeah, but I mean my parents would
buy me the stuff usually, I mean, yeah, I rent stuff,
all right. I remember Neo Geo. You probably probably don't
remember that Turbo Graphics sixteen. No, Like these are like

(27:05):
very uh they weren't like as popular as the Nintendo's
or the Sega Genesis, but man they were the best.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Sixty four to this day is my favorite game console
of all.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
And what's the game that you would get?

Speaker 3 (27:15):
The game for me is a Super Smash brotherly huge
Super Smash guy. Loved play like I remember it was
a big big Link Kirby guy. And then I got
to college, and there's this kid named Jack Greenley who
like knew how to play with all the characters really well.
And I learned this character ness and I kind of
kind of became unstoppable.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
I love double O seven GoldenEye.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Oh yeah, I mean yeah, that's a NFL ninety seven
two thousand.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Like I'm a super technoble guy.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Really you're not.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
No, Oh my gosh, that is like the game of
all games. Bo Jackson and Marcus Allen, you were unstoppable
if you played with the with us more than the Raiders. Man.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Oh, we still have to give one word to describe I.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Don't think incredible.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
Aged weather.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Perfect Yeah, perfection.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Fine wine hyphenated hyphenated the mizz oh, legendary, thank you stellar.
See we're going to the back already making our guest
feel comfortable.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
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is our bud Light interview.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
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Speaker 1 (28:53):
Where is that? That is a collection of a party?
I want to be a part of my God. That
sounds like a blast.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Shane Gillis, Post Loane, Dustin Poirier, Taylor, Lawan, will Compton, Baker,
Mayfield and at Smith, Peyton Manning, George Kittle.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
It's a good party.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
It's a good time body. That's a good crew of
boys right there. That is it's a good good crew
of hangouts. But yeah, dude, welcome to the show.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
And you were talking for I don't know if we
were running during the.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Home right away we're talking celebrity crushes, bills.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Play's and good on you for never wavering right you
get on. Hey you play a handsome guy. You must
have crushed it. Boom I'm married. Hey, we all are
too or just, but you've handled yourself in a way
that's like you're fitting right in right away.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
My wife is hotter than all of them.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Nice one.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I'll take my wife over any woman, any day, all day,
every day.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
And I don't know if I know this correctly, but
you met your wife while hosting a TV.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Show wweh So, wwe had a show called the Divasearch
where we'd find the next WWE Women Superstar and my
wife was a contestant. I was the host and our
first interaction was on TV and you can literally she
didn't speak English. She spoke French. Yeah, so she spoke zerous.

(30:04):
So imagine this woman coming from Montreal, spoke zero English
and she's trying out to be a WWE superstar. Yeah, Like,
how crazy is that? And then she goes in there
and she's like, I am going to give one hundred ten.
I'm like, whoa, I don't want this cookie cutter answer,
give me a real answer. I want the realize that's
actually it right there. And she was like, I don't

(30:27):
speak English, so I was like speaking French and then
she would give us these answers in French and like
you didn't you didn't know what she was saying, but
you knew what she was saying, right, I felt it.
But there was something there. There's always been something there.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
So how does that process? Like, you're filming the show.
Obviously there's days and days of shooting. You're the host,
so you have to stay focused. But there's this beautiful
woman over there in the corner that's speaking French in
a telling you don't understand, but you're looking over her like, hey,
this could be something to read.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
I think it could be something. I mean, I was
looking at her like, this girl's out of my league.
I don't think you. I don't think I could get
a woman like this. Yeah, I'll never forget. Like our
first date was she got signed to w she didn't
win the divsearch. She got signed to WWE. She was
down in developmental. She was coming up to the main
roster where I was, and so I invited her. I said, hey,

(31:16):
we're all going out after the show, because that's what
we do. We go out, find a place to eat
that's open at eleven o'clock, so that's when our show ends.
And so she went. We went to this pizza place.
She didn't sit at my table. She sad at another table,
which I thought was very intriguing. I was like, okay,
all right, all right, let's play. So then after the
place let out, everyone left and we stayed in the
parking lot and talked and we just talked. And by

(31:36):
the way, it was broken English, but I still understood
what she was saying. We had great conversation. And so
we started driving like we were like, it's getting late,
we need to go back to the hotel. And so
we started driving and I'm like, pull over, pull over,
And there was this like I don't know what you
want to call it, like an adult store. Yeah, And
I was like, I don't want to be in the
friend zone. I want to make sure this girl knows

(31:58):
like I'm a catch, like I'm I'm here to play,
you know. So we go into this place and it
was not it was like in Wichita, Kansas, you know,
and it's not like not the classiest place you'd want
to say. Yeah, I mean it was a little rough. Yeah.
You walk in, there's like gags. I'm like, oh my god.
And I was like she was just like I'm like, uh,

(32:21):
get into that or that?

Speaker 3 (32:23):
What about that ship?

Speaker 1 (32:25):
That?

Speaker 4 (32:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Like I'm trying to. I'm trying to. You want to
play chess, you want to play checkers, Let's go we
go outside. We go outside, and we ended up talking
for like I would say, like until our plane, until
we like until the morning came and we went straight
to the plane. And I remember I got off my
flight and went straight to a Barne and Noble and
got like because we didn't have du Lingo back then,

(32:47):
I got like a book that tried to teach me
how to speak French because I was like, I got
to learn French. I mean, if I can only get her.
I remember telling myself, I only get a girl like this,
I'd be truly happy. And then there I am got away. Yeah, man, French,
huh did you learn some French? I'm trying. I'm still
trying to. I mean, I like, I'm on day one
thousand on dou Lingo and it is not I mean,

(33:09):
I can read it. I can read some of the stuff,
but it's hard to talk about it. And the reason
I wanted to start really where I really started being
like I need to speak French is when I got
daughters and I was like, wait a second, they're not
gonna hear us speak French in the household, so they're
not going to pick up French because my wife only
speaks French with her mom and she speaks English now.
So I was like, man, I need to start picking

(33:29):
it up so my daughters pick up French. It's like,
it's amazing what you'll do. Like you're like, ah, my wife,
I'll learn a bit of we we go on, you know,
I mean, I'll learn that stuff. But then for the kids,
it's like, all right, I gotta I gotta start hammering down.
So I'm trying, but it's very difficult.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Are the kids doing better than you are?

Speaker 1 (33:48):
No? I mean they know they're I mean, but also
they're they're five and seven, right, so they there, they
know they're one, they know they can count to twenty.
They can they can have a couple of lines here
and there, but they're not fluent like i'd want them
to be.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Right right, I feel like they're gonna pick it. Like
I have two daughters as well, eight and five, and
my oldest is learning Mandarin. My youngest way, yes, where
she takes a class like with a teacher via zoom
essentially like twice a week. And she's like learning about it.
She's obsessed with like China, Like she.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Wanted to guess Chinese chese the Chinese.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yeah, she's obsessed with it. It's like it started with
dragons and started high to chain your dragon, and then
she figured out that dragons are big in like the
Chinese culture, so she'd becme upsised with the Chinese culture.
And then she's like, I want to learn Mandarin.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
We're like, all right, dude, you know who speaks Mandarin?

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Who?

Speaker 1 (34:34):
John Cena? No?

Speaker 3 (34:36):
I think I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Actually, I was actually just telling a story about this.
People are like, what's one thing that you remember that
you don't always remember about John Cena? And I remember
us being on a European tour and he had flash
cards and like like a child in elementary school, and
on one side was Mandarin, on the other side was
the English version. So he was practicing his Mandarin on

(34:57):
the European tour like and I was like, what are
you doing? He like, I wanted to learn Mandron and
uh so ww A has this program where if you
want to learn a language, they'll they'll pay for it all.
So he's like I took him up on the offer.
I thought it'd be great to learn Mandarin. Uh, And
so he knows it, and so I will never forget
watching train Wreck and him speaking Mandarin. I was like,
that's improv right there, because I know he knows Mandarin,

(35:19):
and it's like that he's improving right there.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
No, that is so awesome.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Yeah, he seems well put together, dude, very well.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Together, he does. I learned a lot from him. Yeah,
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
When you're coming up through the ranks at the WWE,
is that the guy you look at and you're like,
that's the kind of career I want to have.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah. Of course when I was coming up, he was
the top guy. He was in like WWE champion, and
I got to be on live events, live events meaning
non televised shows that we have and we have tons
of those, right and or we did, and so I
got the opportunity to actually work in a ring with him.
And I don't know about you guys in football, but
when you work with a person that is an above

(35:57):
and beyond different level than you are, especially for an
up and comer, like I imagine rookies in NFL come
in there and they think they know everything. They're all like, yeah,
I can block, I can, I can do everything you know,
and then you're like, dude, you don't have any idea
what you're doing. And then you take that guy aside
and you show him. You see the light bulb go
off and you're like, oh wow, and the guy becomes
a sponge. That's what I felt like I was to

(36:18):
John Cena. I got in the ring with him and
he was like, listen and I'm like, I'm listening to
the audience. I hear them chanting, you suck. He's like,
you're not listening. You're not listening to him, You're not
hearing them. And so he taught me how to actually
hear an audience and what to do with that audience.
And that's one of the biggest things that I've learned
from John Cena is how to listen to an audience,

(36:40):
hear an audience, and know what to do with that audience.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
Yeah, is there like a is there an example that
you can call to that you could you could practically
like show us or tell us, like the audience is
doing something. You might have thought one thing, or maybe
you weren't hearing it at all, and it's like, oh,
when the audience is doing this, but if.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
The audience was doing nothing, what if the audio you
you come out and the audience is hired. They've been
watching three hours of wrestling. They're tired. They just had
a huge, a huge segment where the rock comes out,
Stone called Steve Austin comes out, and they're just they're
just exhausted. And now you have to come out and
you're in a match that's a cold match that no

(37:17):
one like. It's literally like you're in a feud with
a guy that literally just happened today, and it's like,
we're just gonna have this match. We have to get
the crowd up and at them. So how do you
get that crowd up? And am? You have to hear them?
You get to listen them. Okay, when I first walk
out into the arena, I'm listening, I'm hearing a crowd.
Where are they at? Should they be higher? Should they
be lower? Do I need them? Where do I need
them to be? So then when I get in the ring,

(37:38):
I start listening and just hearing who they're who they're
cheering for, what they're doing, and then yeah, it's it's
literally like listening and being like, okay, what did this
does this crowd need Does he need to pick me up?
Do they need to slow it down? It's all like,
what's it?

Speaker 4 (37:51):
What's what's like your rolodex of like pick me up.
So if you hear like a dead crowd or something.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
I hear a dead crowd. Sometimes it's like, uh, an
easy one is just a baby face hits the ring
and you just blow up, blow them up and just
start beating, beating the holy hell out of them, and
it's like, oh, whoa, and you just you do big stuff,
like you know, you throw them on a table, boom,
you throw them into the barricade, boom, throw them into
the stairs, boom. Oh my, oh oh oh what is

(38:15):
going on? And it's like, oh what this guy is beating?
This guy's up. I want this guy. And then they'll
start cheering. They'll be like, come on, come on man,
you got this?

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Yeah, you know. And then if the crowd's high, is
it like.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
I'm riding the way the crowd is like really into
the good guy and I'm the bad guy and they're there,
I'm at the I think they're at the top. I
think they're at the top. I'm gonna shut that baby
face down because I'm gonna get them down, and then
I'm gonna build them back up and build them back
up and make them want to see a baby face,
as we call come back. I want they want to
see like if I'm if they're at their highest, they're like,

(38:50):
he does a flip to the outside, boom nails me.
The crowd is going, oh my god, this is awesome.
This throws me back in. I cut them off, I
beat them up, boom boom. And now maybe I just
start taunting the crowd. Yeah that's your hero, that's who
you like. That's who you like. And now you'll start
hearing the crowd, yeah that is who I like. Leave
them alone, man, leave them alone. And then they'll start

(39:12):
doing a slow chant and it's like, okay, they're starting
to come. Now I gotta give him a little more
because the crowd is like getting if you if the
crowd starts cheering for the guy, you got to give
him something. Gotta give him something. So it's like, yeah,
you have him blocked my punch. Booom boom boom boom boom.
Oh oh shut him down again until they're ready for
the big triumphant comeback of a good guy babyface. So

(39:34):
that's kind of like.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
God damn science out here.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I allowed to talk about this because it's like we
have a show on Netflix called Unreal where we just
unleashed everything and we're like, hey, we have writers that
that help us write everything. Like and I love the
show on Netflix, the Unreal because it really shows people
exactly what we do. People are just like, oh, this
is easy, I could do that, or I can do that.
Then you get him in yeah, yeah, or a choreograph

(39:57):
or whatever. But and then it's like you get him
in the ring and they're like, whoa, this is a
lot different than I thought it was gonna be. Yeah,
Like we're we're always talking in there, We're always trying
to figure things out. It's you know, it's it's hi.
I love it because it's it's an art form that
it's unlike anything else. And I always thought that WWE
has prepared me for everything in entertainment, right, Like you

(40:19):
need me to host a show, I can do it.
Why because I've been literally in a live crowd one take.
You don't get any other takes. We're just live. We
don't have we don't have teleprompters, we don't have guys
holding a sign to give us art. We have our
whole promo and everything in our minds, in our heads,
and by the way, sometimes it changes. Sometimes you go
out into an audience and they're just not feeling that

(40:41):
promo and you need to figure out how to wake them.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Up right, you know, like things aren't going according to
playing weather.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, And it's like the bad guy can turn good guy.
You might be in bizarro world where you go to
like Europe, and I mean in Europe, I'm usually the
bad guy. I walk out and they're cheering me and
they're singing my song and I'm like like, well, this
is interesting. Now we could either I can make them
hate me or we could go with this. And usually
it's like I look at the guy across from me

(41:08):
and I'm like, does this guy, this guy, can he
get it right?

Speaker 4 (41:15):
You know?

Speaker 3 (41:15):
What's the chemistry between the two of you?

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Yeah, exactly. And so then you look at each other
and you're like, all right, let's do it, and you
can you could feel the energy and you can feel
it like and it's fun. That's what makes it fun.
It's like it's improv.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
When you when you walk into a ring and you
think they're gonna hate you, but they end up loving
you and you look at the guy. Does that change
the outcome of what's going to happen for you? Guys?

Speaker 1 (41:33):
We always want to make sure that our stories are
told right. We have a we have a set plan
because we have pls you know, where we are leading
to a certain type of match. But there have been
times where things have changed. You never know what's gonna happen.
With a live audience and a live show, things change
like that, you know. I mean there were there were

(41:53):
times where I was going to be a w w
E champion and then I was told like hour before yep,
it's not gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
No, yeah, and why is that?

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Certain things certain things happen right, So, uh I remember
there was like I think Sampunk left the show and
he took the title with him. So they made up
I guess, a paper champion, I guess or whatever, like
they brought a championship and said, hey, if he's leaving
the show, he's gone. He put the title and refrigerator

(42:23):
like that was the big meme. Uh So they're going
to have a tournament and I think I went up
against Ray Mysterio and I was going to beat Ray Masterio.
Then I was going to beat John Cena and I
was going to be a champion, and then they switched it.
Because usually we like babyface versus heel right, bad guy
versus good guy, but then in this certain instance back

(42:45):
especially back then, it was been Babyface versus Babyface, Ray
versus Sina, and they were like, ah, you need a
bad guy versus a good guy. So I was the
bad guy. But then it was like, well it's too
huge monumental Babyface? Is that? Are Ray? Mysterio and John Cena?
Let them go at it, and I think Ray ended
up winning that title. But yeah, there was a moment

(43:07):
there where I was going to be I would have
been a double champion there.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
So if you go it's an hour before the show starts,
it's obviously very exciting, whether it's written or not, that
you're going to be the face of what this franchise.
And then somebody has to walk into them. A suit
walks into a room and says, actually, we've changed the script.
This is what's now happening. How are you handling that? Internally?

Speaker 1 (43:27):
If someone told me you're the guy and then they
told me you're not the guy, I'm more of a
person that I was like, all right, I'll make them
believe I'm the guy. Yeah, you give me. I'm the
type of person that if you give me ten seconds
on a television show, I am going to make sure
that you remember those ten seconds. No matter what is
dealt to me, I will make sure it's remembered. You

(43:49):
can give me any type of line and I will
make sure or I'll do my best to do it.
Sometimes I fail, sometimes I succeed, right, you know. So
it's kinda like that.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
Yeah, do you see a lot of of examples of
guys who don't handle the politics of it when something
like that happens, they don't handle it.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Well, yeah, I mean it happens. I mean they're usually whenever.
I mean it happens all the time. Where you believe
your story should go a certain way, it's in your head,
but the big you know, the execs are looking at
it and going that's not what we want, that's not
where we're going with this. Like, I'm always pitching ideas always,

(44:27):
even right now, I'm in year twenty and I'm always
pitching ideas, always, trying to elevate myself and elevate the
company as a whole and sometimes I'm in there their
stories and sometimes I'm not. And it's my job to
make sure that they never forget me, never forget that, Hey,
who I am and where I am and what I'm
going to do for this company.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
Yeah, yeah, that's us crazy. I was the Vince McMahon
went on Netflix where you see the kind of unfoldings
of like hul Cogan and then you see the Brett
Hart stuff go down. It's just like, man, it is,
It's a different world on the inside of the W.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
I wish I. So we talked about this all the
time on the show, Like Will grew up watching WW
a lot, and it's like, I think a massive piece
that I missed in my childhood because I didn't. I
never get to like invest in I hear Will get
all my guys like George Kittle and they start just
like growing out over it. I'm over here sitting in
the on the sidelines in the dark room, being like,
I wish I knew what they were doing.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
You grew up in the Midwest around those adult stores.
It was like, yeah, the adult stores, you had the NASCAR,
you had WW Right, Bill Goldberg trying to stay undefeated
wcw WWF at the time. Then it transitions, but yeah,
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it in this episode twenty years ago, when you're getting
into this game, what is that process like for you?
Like the events?

Speaker 1 (47:04):
These guys even know this the real world? Yeah, it's
in your notes, but do you know the real world?
Did you grow up watching it?

Speaker 4 (47:10):
In the real World? Road Rules? I would watch, I
would watch those I knew of Real World, but it
wasn't like glued to it like a lot of you
got the knees audience that like loves all the reality
TV stuff.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
So back in the day and like I would say,
the late nineties early two thousands, real World was the show.
MTV was the network. Believe it or not, it was
the network, and it was TRL. It was Real World,
it was road Rules, it was the challenge. It was
where every teen and you know, twenty something wanted to

(47:44):
be It's where, it's what you you watched, and I
got the opportunity. I remember I was in college. I
was at Miami of Ohio at a Theta Chi fraternity,
my fraternity, and I was watching the show and they said,
do you want to try out for the Real World.
It was like Real New Orleans season nine, and I said, hell, yeah,
I want to try out for that show. So I

(48:04):
tried out and I went through a bunch of auditions.
I'm talking. I had a fifty page application asking everything
anything about my life. Back then, we didn't have cell phones,
so they would call you and you'd put on a
speakerphone and you'd have a camera with a VHS like
tape in it and you'd press record and you'd talk
to that camera while they're asking you questions, and you'd

(48:25):
send that VHS tape back to them and then they
would watch it. Yeah that's that, Like, that was how
we did it. Yeah, that's how we did it, you know.
So then I went through I would say, like five
interviews and got on to their casting special, which was

(48:45):
the first time ever they brought Real World and road
Rules twenty eight people only thirteen were going to make
it seven on Real World, six on road Rules. You
didn't know which one year are going to be on
if you made it at all. So by the end
of the three days, I made it onto the show
and I did the Real World. Created a character called
the miz WWE Superstar because I thought I was at

(49:06):
least I didn't had any plans of being a wrestler
at all. I didn't think I could. I was six
foot nothing, two hundred nothing pounds, like I wasn't like
this tremendous athlete I could play, but I wasn't like
this above and beyond. There's just no way, Like I
couldn't be the Hulkgan or the Ultimate where the rock
Stone called Steve Boston that there's no way, right, So

(49:26):
I just created a character. I thought it would be funny,
and once I created the character, it kind of took
off and I was like, man, when I remember leaving
the show, like when it was done, it was like
six months of filming. I paid really nothing. I would
have done it for free anyway, just because of the experience.
Went back home to Cleveland, and I remember staring at
myself in the mirror and going what am I going

(49:47):
to do for the rest of my life? Like, am
I going to go back to Miami, Ohio and have
business classes that I can't stand that I'm basically getting
d's and failing out? Or am I going to pursue
something that I truly am passionate about? Because where I'm
from and I don't know, maybe Midwest. Like where I'm from,
it's like you go to high school. After high school,
you go to college. After college, you go back to
where you're from, and you get a job, and that's

(50:07):
what you get a family, and that's what you do
for the rest of your life, and that is your
life that's set out for you. And so that was
my trajectory. But going on the real world made me realize,
maybe I don't have to do that. Maybe I could
do something different, Maybe I can do what I want
to do.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
Maybe I don't have to be a pe coach. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
So I said, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna
find a wrestling school and I'm going to go and
train to be a professional wrestler. And everyone laughed at me.
My dad was like, you are not doing that. You're
going to college. You're going back to college. You're staying
in Cleveland, and I'm like, no, I'm going to move.
So I got on a challenge right after the real world.
Once I got on the challenge, I won that challenge

(50:46):
and made fifty thousand dollars. I used that fifty thousand
dollars to move the Los Angeles. Got a wrestling school
that I paid five thousand dollars I believed for. I
went into improv classes at Groundlands and Improv Olympics. I
got an acting coach. Uh. And so I was trying
to find all the tools that would get me to
where I wanted to be with WWE. Right and also

(51:08):
I try to find a nutritionist. I was going to
Gold's Gym Venice because I thought that's what the big
boys play, right, Yeah, that's how I get big, you know. Uh.
So I didn't get big. I mean I got fat
because I was just trying to eat as much as
possible to get because I was two hundred pounds I
needed to be. I thought, like, you had to be
two sixties pure, said muscle, How do you get that?
Back then, you didn't have all this information about you

(51:30):
gotta get your macros in and you gotta we didn't
macros back then, you know, you just ate like burritos
or whatever.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Just to get jims Venis beach. You're also have a
syringe in your hand. You're like, hey, we're gonna figure
out that.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
That's one thing I never got into though, So I
was just like, I just these guys must be I
thought it was like, and this is dummy me, right.
I thought they were just eating more you know.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Also like to eighty of just pure muscle. Yeah, gotta
be the protein that it got to be. So okay,
so you go, you move there.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
He was on with the Theo. Yeah, like he really
doesn't talk about he doesn't, does he He doesn't talk.
It's really interesting.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
So us trajectory of life is incredible to see.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
I remember his first stand up really so his I
remember when we were on a bus and we were
on Battlest Sex. Battlest Sex is part two, I think,
or Battle the Season's part two, something like that. It
was one of those ones where we were in New
Mexico and we were going to a club and we
had this bus and we had a microphone and people
were doing karaoke, and I remember THEO telling us like

(52:37):
that year He's like, yeah, I'm starting up comedy. And
we were all like comedy, like stand up comedy, good
for you, that's great, and we were like, do your
stand up, do your stand up, come on THEO. And
no one thought he would actually get up and do it.
But he got up, got on the microphone in our
bus as we're going to a club, and did his
stand up. And I remember it like it was one

(52:58):
of those ones wh you you guys might never know this.
Do you remember the collect calls commercials? And he would
talk about how dirty the collect calls were. It's like
dial down the center. Yeah, he would do all these
like things that were like about the collect calls and
the commercials that were going in and I can't remember
all the things, but it was a dirty joke on

(53:21):
the collect calls and everyone was everyone was dying laughing
because he wasn't like the THEO you see. I mean
there were there were there were hints of it, right,
but the THEO you see now is just like his
mind is just it's whoa, it's out there and the
way he's exactly but you didn't see that's that. You

(53:41):
knew it was funny, but it developed and he trained
himself into that you know what I mean. I mean,
I feel like comedy, football, any type of thing that
you want to be successful at, you have to train
your brain into it and you just don't grow up.
I mean, you could be funny stand ups, a whole
different art.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
It's a whole different ball game.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Yeah, and he's he's done amazing with it. And I
can't tell you a better person to do it, because
THEO not only was he hilarious, but he was one
of the first people I met because he was remember
the show I said, uh where was a casting special?
He was the host of it, and so he was
one of the first people I got to talk to
about it and gave me amazing advice about what I

(54:22):
should do. He's like, just be yourself. If you start
playing up a character, they'll be able to see through
it because they're filming you twenty four to seven. So
a lot. That's a lot, a lot of reason why
people in real world don't like what they see on
the edited version. They're like, oh, they edited me wrong.
It's like, nah, you played a character. You didn't play you.
And if you don't play you, it's like your barstool stuff.

(54:43):
Like when you guys were doing that stuff. If you
guys are just yourselves, you're not going to get screwed
over because it's hard to edit something that you are.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Ye, if you in the lane aime, sorry.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
The barstool stuff, I don't.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
Know, no no, no barolotely watching the thing with you
guys on it, I thought you guys are gonna win
by surviving, it seemed like.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
And so I've never obviously I'm made a joke about
the hosting a relation ship, but I've never done reality TV.
Will did it the year before and won, and going
into it, I was so naive to all the other
games being played and I was thought.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Oh, did he educate you?

Speaker 3 (55:19):
He did, but I guess like I just didn't take
it upon myself too noodle like getting to other people's business.
I was like, oh my my squad seems really tight,
and then.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
I want too many moves too early, and it's like.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Hey, we got we can't be see to me, I
was like, let me make this impact quick because I
know Jersey Jerry. He was he was my first kill
of the of the show, and I was like, I
need to get this cat out because it's like.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
And then the bandwagon will happen knowing what I know now, happen.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Knowing what I know now, there were multiple people that
were like Taylor, and I was able to without knowing,
like get Jerry and get people on Jerry, and I
might have been out even sooner than that. If if
if I didn't like speak up a little bit, inevitably,
it ends my demise was always forecasted. It was always
going on.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
So I played these games, and I've got to host
these games. And I remember we did a we did
a show where on MTV that was a challenge based
show where you would take on the challenge. The people
that actually do the challenge they all stars versus celebrities.
Celebrities didn't have a chance because they don't understand the intrigues,
like the ins and outs of the game. If you

(56:31):
don't understand the it's a game, you have to play it.
And if you're not playing it and you're not involved,
you're not gonna win. Like I watch all these like
these reality shows like Traders, like I'm like I can
win that, no doubt in my mind, like all of them.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
You watch them, bro, I haven't seen Traders, though I
watched was million dollars. It just came out on Netflix.
It came out a little bit after Battle Camp.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
I think, I know you're talking about like someone's like
someone has.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
A million dollars, you know, the the guy God. I
hate that. I'm blinking on this. Can you look it up? Sure?
Million Dollar Secret? Did you see that one?

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (57:08):
You would like that one. That's another like game within
the game. I love that, like Werewolf the card game
or Mafia. Some people play that game, like all those
little I don't know. Those strategy games are a lot
of fun. Risk. We love Risk.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
That's twenty twenty, when the whole COVID thing was going on.
I was in California training. We would just get high
and stay up to like two in the morning playing Risk.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Within and we were just getting like your training and
you're just.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
Getting Yeah, we were training. I put my kid to sleep,
I had to get a little cooked up, and then
we play like three games of Risk.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
And we played on Xbox Xbox Live and so we'd
all be on our controllers just talking trash, having a
good time. It was so much fun.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
That's us.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
That was us. Earlier this year. Comrade Willie over there.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
Dude, would you would you play Surviving Barstool.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Would I play it?

Speaker 4 (57:54):
I think we don't know. They're wanting to do a
celebrity one.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
So the problem the problem with those those games are
they allow phones. They don't allow like it's it's it's
a big like it's it takes a long time to
film a show, you know, it's Surviving, it's.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
All done a week.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Bro, is that in a week and it comes out
two months later? They do Rob? Yeah, Rob, he does
an amazing job. Yeah, of like handling everything and yeah,
after the challenges, we have our phones.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Oh really Like the things about Traders that were like, yeah,
you're out there for fifteen days. You know, you get
to talk to your kids. And if you do talk
to your kids, like it's it's a person has to
watch you do it. I'm like, yeah, it's not happening.
Not a chance. And ol, I need to talk to
my daughters every single day, Like yeah, I'm I know
you guys are girl dads, but like, what is that?

(58:43):
What has that been like? You know, raising girls?

Speaker 4 (58:46):
Dude? Incredible? Incredible man Like like Rue, she's very right
now she's three, she's very intense with her emotions. It's
been great for myself just I grew up. It was
me and two other brothers.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
My mom.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
She you know, a lot of like boy energy, handling
us and everything else. But being like.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Your emotions, is that the PC version of whining all
the time.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
She gets she's a whiner, but she's very much she
feels all of her emotions in like a big way.
So like having to communicate with a three year old
like in the trenches has been very much a learning
experience for myself. And then Scotti Joe, she's ten months old.
She's just a little She's like Michael Parson's on third down.
She's scrambling everywhere, all over the floor right now. But
it is, it is. It's the best feeling in the

(59:27):
world being a girl.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Dad, did you educate him at all about a three
year old?

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Yeah? No, I think we've kind of played the games
of like, Okay, she's three. This is like I remember
when Rue was born, because I had my oldest I
might have yeah, I already had Willows, well, so I
had both my kids. It was almost like the first
six months are kind of a grind, grind because you
don't really understand the talent.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Yeah, six months to a year and a half you're
in a good spot.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
You're in a good spot.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
But it's like around that six month mark is when
you see the smile and they recognize you when you
come into a room, and that's when you're like, you're
obviously in as a father, but that's when you're like,
I get I, I one hundred percent understand what the
feeling everyone's talking about it. So if you don't feel
it right away, that's perfectly fine. For my kids. Like,
my oldest daughter is she's eight years old, and she
just recently got a book. She was at this like

(01:00:12):
fair and just at a park a week ago, and
there was a girl who was nine years old that
was selling a book that she wrote herself, and my yeah,
how cool is that? So my daughter buys the book.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Weird, where do you live? Your daughter's learning Mandarin? This
nine year old's writing books?

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Yeah? My kids, who my kids are the best. My
kids are the best. But like when my oldest she
gets this book and she's like, you can tell, like
truly inspired. So now my win has written four chapters
of her own book in the last week and a half.
Of these three kids, she's like, it's a ratedar story.
Daddy and oh, what's righted r Man. She's like there's

(01:00:50):
guns and I'm like, okay. The story starts with these
three girls. They are in this car. The mom leaves
out of the gas station. Someone starts shooting up the car,
so the nine year old gets in the car drives off.
They end up in this boat in the island. They
meet with these other kids. They find their dad. Like,
she's telling me the story and I'm reading the words
and like some of them are misspelled, but like when
she reads it, it's like it's fluid because it's like
how her brainessing the words and it's awesome. And she's

(01:01:12):
taking piano lessons now where she wrote a theme song
for the book, like because she's begging to Harry Potter,
so she hears the Harry Potter theme song. She's like
written notes and plays the theme song. It's incredible on piano.
On piano, and this is like eight. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
She plays.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
She's not like, you know, it ain't Mozart, but she's
out there. She working like she she understands the keys.
Do you play No, dude, I'm a front man. I
I can you know I can give you I'm a
front man. But and then my my my youngest daughter.
Like I think the second is really unique because they
watch the oldest and they want to like they kind

(01:01:49):
of fall in line with the oldest and follow whatever
they do. It's really cool to see my youngest daughter
find her voice and start to find like her own interest,
what she likes to do, where she likes to be dependent,
where she likes to be independent. And it's like I
was literally having breakfast with my oldest daughter this morning
and I was like, I think I'm in like peak
dad mode right now. And I've said this a bunch
of times in the pod, and she's like, what does
that mean. I was like, we're already decorating for Spootober.

(01:02:11):
We're already getting ready for like October first is to
kick off to the holiday season, so we got a
whole bunch of stuff going around the house. I'm like,
I was like, dude, in like three years, you're not
gonna care about this, Like you might be like me
that like doesn't care then comes back to it, but
like you're fully invested. She doesn't know about Santa just yet,
but like she's all about Santa still. So it's like
the position I'm in as a father it's like knowing

(01:02:33):
that you're in the good old days while you're in them,
because right now it's like it's the fucking best, dude,
it is all time. Yeah, that's a win right there,
my wife and then I'm holding my youngest daughter right there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
But uh yeah, man, I got five and seven and
I uh, it's a lot, Like I want to be
there as much as possible. With with WW, I travel
a lot. So I wonder what the grind was for
you guys in football. I mean you get to go
home though every day.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
You know him every day like he had his kids
after football. For me, it was yeah, like you just know,
those six months are a blur and you try to
be as good with your time as possible about like
being present when you can be. But like when I
when I was playing, it was like I'm always thinking
about the rusher I'm going against, the defense I'm going against,
and how I played last week, how can I play

(01:03:21):
better this week? So it's very difficult to be present
all the time because you know, you say you've been
doing WW for twenty years, It's like there's like three
guys that's ever played twenty years in the NFL, And
like you know, like it's such a finite amount of time.
So my wife did a did an amazing job of
like getting times, like, hey, we're gonna be together at
this time. She knew the schedule inside and out. But
it was Yeah, it's tough, man, especially when you're in it.

(01:03:43):
And one thing that I think a lot of people
don't talk about is after the season, when the season
ends and you're so used to kind of everyone catering
to you and you're now in an off season where
now I'm integrating back into our family's livense. But they
have the routine, they had, the things they.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Do, yes, and no one ever talks about talks.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
About it, and it's like there would always be like
friction between me and my wife, like between week one
and week three of like the off season, because like
I'm trying to find my way back in. They're very
comfortable about like seeing me rarely, but like and so
like I kind of bulldozed my way into it, and
so that's a very difficult time to get into it.
Once you get into February March April, it's like, Okay,

(01:04:19):
everything's smooth sailing, but it's a it's a grind. I mean,
you understand.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Yeah, I mean I know exactly what you're talking about.
Like I every week it's that though, Like it's like
I leave for a day or two and then I
come back and then I'm like, let's go, let's go,
let's go, and it's like we have a routine here, yeah,
like but this is our routine, this is what we do.
And I come in and I just ruined that routine.
And kids need routines, they need their there, so you

(01:04:45):
don't want to ruin that. But also you want to
make sure that like I try to create moments, like
capture moments like yesterday we went to like a water
park and we were there for six hours and I
thought this, this was really cool. I got home and
I wanted to watch football, right yeah, sat down. I
was like, ah, my dad, my kid comes up, and
you want to play. And one of my rules is
if my kid asked me if I want to play,

(01:05:05):
yes is always the answer yes I want to play,
because they're not going to ask that when they're twelve thirteen,
they're gonna be like I don't want to, I don't
want to. Ham maybe they'll have conversations you're gonna exactly
so I'm like, how many more of those do you
want to play?

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
Do you?

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
They always want to wrestle me because I like they
like or not shocking, right, It's okay, So it's not
just that I'm a wrestler.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
When I come home, my youngest saughter goes, Daddy, we
want to catch these hands. Get in the bedroom and
I take them and I just throw them all over
our faster bedroom. And I'm like, I'm throwing them in
the air.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Now, does your wife go? Stop playing so rough with that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
There's there's been we probably wrestled, let's just say, one
hundred times in their lives. There's been thirty five times.
Tears happened. But they got to find out who they
are every time.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
But they but they I remember I used to play
with my uncle Nick, and my uncle Nick was like
professional boxer, like really rough, and I remember my mom
always going, Nick, you're playing too rough with him? Would
cry cry, But I remember those times, and I remember
even though I was crying then, like I remember them
fondly and like like I remember smiling and happy and

(01:06:09):
and every time I see my Nick, I'd try to
like wrestle him and like it. So I remember those times.
Even though I was crying every time I wrestled him,
it didn't matter. So like when I'm with my daughters,
I don't make them cry, obviously, but like tears do
happen sometimes because we play rough. They like they want
to play rough. They don't like they're like, Dad, you're
playing you're playing too light. Throw me, And it's like,

(01:06:30):
all right, there you go. There's your throw. There's your
throwing me by my legs. My wife's like, you're gonna
pour her legs off. There are kids.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
I talk about the ultimate gaslight on my oldest. We
were in Canada and like I was tossing her and
like two or three tosses, she got hurt and it
was like a lot of tears and I'm like, honey,
like this is you want to play like this? You're
going too hard. You're going too hard. So I would
take my five year old and I would just throw
her to the headboard like a bunch of pillows.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
Don't get into it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
She love it. And then my oldest I pick her
up it high in the air and I start to
throw it down and I catch her and gently put
her on the bed. She's like, no, that's that's not enough.
But I did that for like two three different wrestling sessions,
so the pot were she's like screaming up and she's
like that's enough. Like I'm like, all right, let's find
out who we are. Then you want it, then let's

(01:07:22):
do that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
This is what you wanted.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
Yeah, but it is like I'm i'm I'm I have
no idea what it's like to have a nine year old,
but I'm figuring out what it's like to have an
eight year old and I've had a five year old,
and like it's the best.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Yeah, it is, It truly is. And like I always
teach them the first thing that if they say we
win wrestle, I was like, lock up. It's like and
that taught them how to lock up. But then I
also go, all right, now choke me, like you have
to choke me out, like and it's not like but
it's like I want them to learn if someone's picking
on them and someone is that I want them to
be able to choke a person out because it's not
you're not punching, you're not hurting yourself. You literally you

(01:07:55):
duck under and you boom.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Put it on a doing any martial arts or anything like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Yeah. So I was watching like a podcast and I
heard Dana White say something about jiu jitsu, and so
he was like, he was like, like a little girl
can take down a three hundred pounds man. And I'm like,
come on, it's like if they had the right technique
and they know how to do it, like they can
do it. So I got my daughters into jiu jitsu

(01:08:20):
because I was like, I want my daughters to be
able to take care of themselves. And I also think
confidence level of knowing that you have the confidence to
take care of.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Yourself the ability we need yourself. Yes, yeah, we started
doing the same thing. I saw that podcast as well,
and I was trying to like really press organized sports
sports and I was talking to my oldest and I'm like, hey, listen,
your dad he did it. He's kind of you know,
you got the genes. Basically, I was giving her the
talk like if you want to play the sports, you
can do it and you can get a scholarship. Blah
blah blah. I'm trying to explain title nine er the

(01:08:50):
whole thing, and she kind of sits back. We're watching
playoff by she said, she sits back she's like, you
know what, then I think I'm just going to be
me And I was like all right right then and there,
like competitive like team sports kind of died. That's okay,
but they have to do something. So I got them
into jiu jitsu, and it took a little bit of
time for them to really get into it, but once
they got that first stripe on their belt, they're locked in.

(01:09:12):
They are all about it. I did the bribe, Hey,
every time you win, I get you a dollar. But
they're like they're about it now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
So was it crying before going? Like I don't want
to go. I don't want to go because that's too busy,
like playing with stuff, and it's like and you are like, okay,
you know what. They don't want to do it, right,
But then it's also like do they because when they're there,
they they're having so much fun, but getting them to
the place is so difficult, and it's like I'm I'm

(01:09:39):
like more strict on that, like where it's like, no,
if we're doing this, I gotta give them a like
do you want to do jiu jitsu? Yes? Okay, if
we do this, you have to do it. You can't
just quit. You have to do it for one ye
out and I'll tell you what if after the class
you don't want to do it anymore, you don't have
to do it anymore. And usually after the class, I
was like, do you guys want to do it? And

(01:09:59):
they're smiling, they're happy they just took a boy down.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Oh yeah. They're like they're like, do you want to
do it tomorrow? Yes? Yes, And then the same thing happens.
I don't want to go. I don't want to go.
We're going. And if I tell you what if afterwards
you don't want to do it, we don't have to
do it, right, It's always the same.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
It's always it's always yes after I always struggle with that.
And I remember being a freshman in high school. I
got like a lot of trouble in middle school, and
I was a freshman in high school. It was summer
workouts a group in Arizona, and so it's like you know,
one hunter and whatever degrees, and they have like the freshman,
the JV and the varsity. They're all we're all like
kind of doing camp drills, and uh, I'm like this,

(01:10:36):
like I'm not like fat, but I'm like shapely I'm
a Shapeley and like Mike from Monsters, Inc. And uh,
I'm I'm dying. I've never had this difficult condition in
my life. So I go up to my dad who's
in the stands, and I go, I'm done. I don't
want to play football. I want to quit. And my
dad gets up and he's like, all right, you want
to quit. Gout to the guy in the visor. And
the advisor was a guy named Chad D. De Grenner
who was the head coach of the varsity team. And

(01:10:57):
my dad says, he goes, sits in the car and
he just waits for two more hours. I come back
in and he just says there he goes, Buddy, I
just want you to know what it's like on the
other side, Like if you're going to do something, you
have to do it. And I mean without that conversation,
if you walked up and quit, it's like we're not
all sitting here. And it's like one of those things
you look at your kids and like when they're crying
and they're having a meltdown and my wife's like, do
they really have to go? It's like, no, they don't

(01:11:18):
have to go, but they should go because they committed
to doing something, and it's like you just want them
to get to the other side. And once they got
that stripe, that's like, oh, I've had a little bit
of success here. Now it's like, when's jiu jitsu next?
And that's when it's it's like getting fun with in.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
That regard to Yeah, it's like gymnastics now too, Like
gymnastics and jiu jitsu is what they've been into. I
got him in the sock. I tried to get him
into every sport just to see what connects and clicks right,
And so far that the gymnastics and jiu jitsu has
been the two that they have taken to.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you guys. It's like if you're
if you're going to commit to something, and then if
they're having like if Ruth's having a breakdown about something,
it's more of just like, hey, this is what we do.
You said you wanted to do this, you know, give
her the whole confident speech, like you're like, this is
how we show up, this is how we're going to
do things. If at the end of it you don't
want to do it or you want to quit after
said CEO, like she's not old enough to be in seasons.

(01:12:08):
But if at the end of the day you don't
want to do it, we don't have to do it anymore.
But if you said you're gonna do this, like this
is how we show up. This is what we do
because I agree. I feel like a lot of the
times they just might be doing something in the moment
and it's like, well, they don't know what it looks
like unless you teach them, and like the world's gonna
be hard. That's just how however it is. It's like
you can micro manage your kids as much as you want,
but at some point they're gonna have your principles, your

(01:12:30):
foundational thinking, like once they step out into the world
and you want them to know like, hey, you might
not want to do this today, but if you're somebody
who you know keeps your word, you keep your commitment,
like you'll think the right way. Like once you get
to that age and it's like, hey, this is how
we're going to do it. If you say yes, like
you keep your word, we're going to show up. So
if those are like the foundational things, because it's hard
when the crying, it's like, I mean, they are just

(01:12:51):
three four or five, like they don't have to, but
it's like, ah, is it because I kind of don't
want to go either? Or then you start to have
that self talk with yourself. It's like no, they need to.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Have littel talk every day. Like literally, there has never
been something so confusing in my life than parenting. It's
just every time I'm out there, I'm like, am I
doing the wrong thing? Like is the reason she's crying
is because she really doesn't like it? Or she's just
having a meltdown? And sometimes that happens, you know, maybe
she really does, but then she's smiling now, so it's

(01:13:21):
like wait, and then I'm like going in my head,
I'm going, how can I do this? Okay, how can
I develop her confidence? Because I want her to be
a confident, you know, strong individual, you know, and smart
and fun and and and everything that you want like
your daughters to be you want them to be. And
how do you guide them? You can't give them everything? Yes,
you just say yes everything. Then you're like, oh man,

(01:13:43):
I'm just giving them everything and they don't learn.

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
They're like false confidence where you just lay it up
for him. It's like, oh, that was awesome. That you
keep it and then you're kind of just hoping that
it works out again the next time.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Are you familiar with the monosaur teaching?

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Yes? So not not yes and no, like we looked
into it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Right, well, is that what you were actually homeschooling for
the first time this year?

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
How is that going?

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
Buddy rave reviews at this point? Like I told you
about god no okay teaching, yea yeah. If if I'm
doing the teaching call CPS, like my kids are not
going to be equipped. But we have a teacher that
was actually at the monastery school and she wanted to
do like a homeschool and that's what she did in

(01:14:23):
the past, and she was like up in Minnesota, came
down and it has been awesome. And for me, it
was always like it's the social it's the extracurriculars, Like
you have to have enough of those. So like, you know,
I think we all grew up with you see a
couple of homeschool kids and you're kind of like, yeah,
stand the social cube portion, but so far I I
rave reviews about it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
What made you change?

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
It was always a conversation that took place when my
oldest was born, and I think I was more resistant
to it because I came from the public school system.
I think social like social interactions and understanding social cues
are way more important than like your traditional like how
much do you know about the Revolutionary War unless that's
what you want to go into. And then as we
got farther and farther in, it's like you just want

(01:15:06):
to make the right decision. And then it's like, Okay, well,
my I making the right decision for my kid or
for myself because I'm worried about what my kid might
be if they do this. But like at the other day,
like we spend more time with our kids there like
last year, my kid wasn't writing a story and like
writing her own theme song to the story, which is
something that's extremely new, but like it's an opening space

(01:15:27):
for them to be more creative in a world where
the nine and like the nine to five is what
we all grew up. It's like, you know, you go
to high school, year of college, then you get a job,
and then you die. You married and die. It's like,
now there's so many different things you can do in
this world, and there's so much access to learn those things.
It's like, Okay, what are you most passionate in that's
a nurture that while checking the boxes, we have to
check from an educational standpoint and get you where you

(01:15:48):
truly want to go in life and be the person
that you actually want to be.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Does she get to go to see her friends? Like
does she have like where does she meet friends?

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
So there, we do jiu jitsu, we do those art classes,
we do the men but that's that's online and then
then piano lessons are all in a group setting as well.
But it's like she's got like five to six good
friends that were constantly circulating play dates on making sure
I having there's a neighbor girl that is over every
single day when when schools up for her. So the

(01:16:16):
social part, I think they're getting done. I think as
we get older we'll press it a little bit more.
But like both my kids, like when we go to
a park, it's not the nervous shy, it's the who
are you? What's your name? My name so and so
this is old I am. They're very like forward and
like willing to make a fool out of themselves. And
I mean that in a positive way. But the monastory
thing I was talking about before was the whole good

(01:16:38):
job thing. Like one of the core values of Monastori
is like self like self reflection, So like when a
kid finishes a drawing, instead of being like, oh, that's
so great, good for you, it's like, how do you
feel about it? And then have them be like, I'm
proud of this. Because of this, that gives them the
sell validation to be like, oh, well, my opinion matters
more than what other people people's opinions matter. And so

(01:16:59):
I just think it's it's a really cool kind of
way of going about things.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
And do you feel like they're keeping up with uh
most kids or do you feel like they're going down
or up or maybe even higher.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
So we started Montassory with the September, like we started
at the like the middle of August, so to know
all that, I mean, check in with me at the
you know, end of the year, sure, and then I'll
I'll have a better idea. But what I've seen from
my kids, they seem much more engaged, much more like
excited to talk about what they learned at school than
they were when I pick them up from school. So
I feel like it's trending in the right direction.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
I have a hard time to like I'll be like,
how like I try to not do the how it
was your day? It's like what was your favorite part
of the day. Yeah, they don't know. Yeah, Like I
was trying to do all the right like lingos. Yeah
I know. I'm sitting there.

Speaker 4 (01:17:44):
Doom scrolling on Instagram because there's so much good parenting
stuff on Instagram. Like, as I'm sitting there watching it,
Dad is a great show.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
You can go check.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
This is basically for the Dad's hosted by the Miz right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Right, yeah, yeah, the chat here it is no doubt,
but yeah, it's a I was nervous about the homeschooling thing.
I love it right now and it could change it
any point. But I just think more time with your kids,
like why why not that they're at.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
So we started uin school this year, Like we've had
several of the days where she doesn't want to go
to school, which I kind of enjoy because it's like
you get to do all the same kind of conversations
of like you know, not talking and or going, but
essentially like talking or into going. It's like, oh, all
your friends are waiting this that the other. But so
she just started Monsori school this year, it's been what
I love it. I feel like they do, you know,

(01:18:30):
with the monasory stuff. Again, I was a public school kid.
There wasn't really any monossory around where I grew up
in good old bond Ter, Missouri. But it's like really
like tribal to where they're setting their spot when they
all eat, whether they snack time or lunchtime, like they're
setting their table, they're cleaning up after themselves, they're learning.

(01:18:52):
It's like working with it with the kids, like the
manners and who's going who's doing this, who's doing that,
Like everybody's helping out and they gravitate more to It's
like the kids interest which I haven't gotten to go
to a like an observation class where they'll have the
parents come in you get to kind of watch them
throughout the school day. I think we do that here
in a couple of weeks, which I'm excited about. But
it seems to be going awesome. Man Like, she seems

(01:19:13):
to be making friends, Like they play outside a lot.
It sits on like like I don't know how many acres,
like in the ten to twenty on acres to where
they get a lot of outside time they get their
rest time, they're doing a lot of things. That's where
it's like them self helping themselves and they get guided,
uh to what their interests are guided to. Hey, if
you got to go to the bathroom, you're you know,

(01:19:34):
you're more well equipped to do it on your own,
not having the Hey if you can wipe, you can wipe.

Speaker 5 (01:19:38):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
I've seen to enjoy it. I think she's having a
good time with it. And I also it's like, uh,
I enjoy when she's in all these other set like
other settings to where somebody else can be their like
authoritative figure, to where she's more uncomfortable being away from
being away from myself. I know, like even as a dad,
I get really nervous every time I drop her off
to do some whether it's gymnastics because now she'll now

(01:20:00):
she does ballet to where it's more class, where the
parents aren't in there. I myself find myself just being
sad or like what is she scared? What if she
doesn't fit in? She's shy at first, but she I
hope she has a good time to where I also
it's like my wife and I love those conversations with ourselves,
Like hey, you know, even though this adult might not
have said a thing that we would want them to say,
they're going to be around all these authoritative figures throughout

(01:20:21):
their life. Like it's good to get them, you know,
adapted to those things. But we've seen like she comes home,
she talks about school, she talks about her friends, she
tells us about her day. Uh, they seem she seems
to be doing well there. So we've had a good
experience so far. But we're only like a month in, OK,
But we've enjoyed it. It's been it's been fun, and
I kind of look forward to the chaos in the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Proper school, which is the best school? I want number one?
I want the best best, And it's like all right,
and you're you're already thinking like, uh, is she can
go to college? Like I don't know, I want her
an opportunity to go to college. And Montossori schools. Can
they go to college? That I'm learning that too, Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
They go they go pretty deep in the grades. And
it's like I sit there again, all I've known is
the public school system, and it's like, you know, I'll
sit there and I'll be like I turned out all right, Yeah,
And I came from Bontare, Missouri. Like, I'm sure you know,
it doesn't necessarily matter. She's going to go to a
school somewhere here in Nashville. But parents are pretty like
dialed on. If I'm talking to a parent, like an

(01:21:18):
adult and they're like, oh, where you thinking about your
kid going to school? And I'm like, dude, I have
no fucking clue. Like you might need to you know,
you got to get in early, you gotta do this.
Have no clue, bro, I'm I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
Sure when you grew up, it was like you go
to school at five, like that's kindergarten, and then if
there's a daycare someone that you go to the daycare.
But like here in Nashville, it's like there are kids
in school at eighteen months years old? What eighteen yeah,
not years, eighteen months and you're just like what are
we what are we talking about here?

Speaker 4 (01:21:43):
I feel like those be more like the daycare or
like what is it called.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Day the monastery school that my kids were at before
they started at eighteen months, and I was getting the
same conversation that you were getting where it's like, hey,
where are they going to school? Well, she's two and
a half nonw you should probably get her in before
otherwise they might they might have a lot of area
or all these different things, and it's like, bro, like
we can't just like put them in a like, hey
go to school now five. You know, it's kind of

(01:22:07):
like a it's a it's a wild thought process.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
So because when you're a small town, it's like you
got the one school. Yeah that everybody else to, Well,
they're on that side of the line. They got to
go to Park Hills.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
Can I ask you a question? Yeah, so you win
fifty thousand dollars, you moved to LA, you get an
acting coach, improv coach, you're doing all the things, putting
yourself in a position for the WWE. You're in Venice
Beach at the Gold Gym. What happened to get you
in WWE?

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
Uh so, good question. Uh So they had a show
We'll go back to MTV. Yeah, so MTV had a
show called Tough Enough where you could win a WWE
contract if you win the show. So I wanted to
try out, but back then you couldn't be on two shows.
You couldn't be on Real World road Rules Challenge and

(01:22:52):
then beyond tough Enough. So they wouldn't let me do
the show. But then cut to three years later, after
training in learning the art of professional wrestling, trying to
at least, I was trying to go to Japan because
I've heard like that's where you can really, you know,
learned a different style, Like Japan has a different style

(01:23:13):
than what WWE is. There's different styles everywhere, Like Lucha
Libre is Mexican, that's very that's a whole different style
as well, so there's different style. So I was like,
maybe if I learn, you know, the artirofessional wrestling here
in California, then I'll go to Japan and they'll bring
me over to Japan and I would do like things
called dark matches, where you go backstage and you kind

(01:23:34):
of start meeting people backstage, and you might get a
dark match, which is the match before the show even airs,
so they can see you and test you out. I
never got one of those because I just wasn't like
they weren't looking for me. And then finally three years later,
after all that, I got asked to do Tough Enough,
which was not going to be on MTV. It would

(01:23:56):
be on the CW during SmackDown, and I was like
I was like, I've been trying to do the show,
but they wouldn't let me. It's like, there's gonna be
fifty people. If you make the top eight, then you
will be on the show. I'm in. So I had
to go to Venice Beach. They had this, they had
a ring setup, they had an obstacle course, and I'll
never forget Build de Mott's like, oh, the real world guy.

(01:24:17):
And by the way, being on the real world, you
might be like, oh, that must be like a good thing, right,
like you already have a notoriety, you have people watching you.
None WWA. That was more like, no, you don't belong here.
You shouldn't be here, We don't want you here. You're
just I mean, when you're on a reality show. You
back then you were in no talent hack. You weren't.

(01:24:38):
You were just on what you can be filmed and
you're good on television. People didn't realize, like it does
take and there's a special thing to being on a
reality show. You have people that are wallpaper that literally
you never ever see, and you have people that are
the star of the show and you need those stars.
And so people didn't realize that. I don't think back
then maybe producers and that kind of stuff, but like

(01:24:59):
not you know, when I was trying out. So I
try out and I remember being going onto this obstacle
course and it almost felt like they were trying to
get me out cause it was like, what's your time
going to be? And I was like and back, and
I think it was like under like two minutes was
unheard of, Like no one's even come close to being
under two minutes. And I was like, Oh, I'm just

(01:25:19):
gonna do my best. What's your time going to be?
And I'm like I know what they're doing right now,
Like they're going to make me say under If I
say three minutes, you know that's not fast enough. Two
and a half, it's not fast enough. Well that's it,
that's it, that's all you're gonna say. I was just like,
I'll go under two. And they were like, ah, no
one's been under two. There's no way you're gonna do that.
Did the obstacle course got under two like one fifty

(01:25:41):
seven and they were just like whoa. And then I
got in the ring and I started cutting promos and
they were like oh okay, And so I made it
onto the show. Now once I made it on the show,
they were trying to almost make it quit. We would
have to do five hundred bumps, which is bumps is
like standing in the middle of the ring and landing

(01:26:02):
flat on your back, just flat on your back, flat
on your back, flat, like five hundred of those. Then
you'd have to do flip bumps where you do uh
kind of a one eighty and land on your back. Uh.
And then so so one guy ended up did did quit,
And it just felt like the entire time they were
just trying to It was like, can you withstand what
we're getting putting you through, because we're going to give

(01:26:24):
you I was on the million dollar you know you're
gonna win a million dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
Yeah, it sounds like a hell week, like a Navy
Seals hell week, one.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
Hundred percent, but it was. It was. It was the
hardest thing, and so I made it all the way through,
got second place, didn't win. The fans voted and they
voted Daniel Peter uh the the winner. But honestly, that
was a blessing in disguise because during this time I impressed
the exact so much that they were like, we're going
to give you a developmental contract. It wasn't a million

(01:26:51):
dollar contract, and I had to take a pay cut
from doing the reality shows when I was winning. I
was doing reality shows and I would win, and so
when you win, I win a lot of money, right,
So I took a pay cut to go into the
developmental into Deep South Wrestling in Atlanta, Georgia, which was
makedon at Georgia. So moved from Los Angeles to Macdonnat, Georgia.

(01:27:12):
And every day I'd wake up and my body was
just killing me. I'd be like, one more day, you
can do it. One more day, you can do it.
One more day, you can do it. One more day,
you can do it. And you'd see people quitting. You
would see people always faking that they were sick on
this bleachers. I never wanted to be in a bleacher,
never wanted to be a sick guy in the bleacher.
I was always the guy that was like, I'm just
going to go through it and let the torment happen.

(01:27:35):
And so went through it. Finally got up into the SmackDown,
and when I remember sitting down with Vince and Vince
they were like, Vince wants to see you, and I'm like,
oh man, holy cow this is it. I get in
there and he's like, we want you to be the
Ryan Seacrest of the WWA. I'm let me tell you something.

(01:27:58):
Ryan's Seacrest. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
Yeah, a talented guy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
Hell the talent. But when you want to be the
big star in WWE, being the Ryan Seacrest of ww
is not what you want to hear. But I knew
that if they gave me a microphone, I could get
the crowd to want to see me get beat up
in the ring. He wanted me to be the host

(01:28:21):
of SmackDown, like they wanted to me. They didn't want
me to be like a wrestler. They even tried to
get me to be a commentator, like commentators being like,
you know, hello, everybody, a welcome to Monday night Rawl
or Friday night SmackDown. They wanted me to be that guy.
And I actually went to Stanford to do that, and
like they asked me, like this is what we're thinking
this is I was like, I really want to I

(01:28:43):
think I could be a ww superstar. And by the way,
even me thinking of this now, like I can't believe
I had that much balls to say that, Like, because
when you're trying to get in to w W and
this is your dream. It's like they're they're giving you
like an opportunity. Take it, take it, take everything, take
a thing.

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
I was trying to tell them, I think I can
be the w by the ways and everyone still by
the way.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
Back then, people were still huge, right, they were massive.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
Throughout these stories. You've gotten taller by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
Thank you, yeah, thank you. So uh and I feel
taller because that's my feeling at the time. Let's go
so I uh so yeah I I I got the microphone.
I was the host of SmackDown, and I knew if
I could get people to hate me enough or love
me enough on the microphone, that they'll want to see
me in the in the ring. And finally after I

(01:29:35):
believe like that's where I did the hosting of SmackDown,
did the hosting of the Diva Search, And once I
got done with the Diva Search, I was told, hey,
you're going to have your first match next week, and
it was against Tatanka. And had my first match against
Tatanka and I beat them, went one to oh and
I went like six and oh and everyone hated it.
And it was great because like the worst thing you

(01:29:57):
can have is when you walk out, no one does anything.
They're booing you. That's a pat on the back. That's awesome.
And honestly I prefer it. I like being a bad guy.
I like a lot of people don't like it. A
lot of people don't like when they go on Twitter
and see like this guy sucks, he's terrible, he's the
worst wrestler ever. I it thrives me. It it releases

(01:30:17):
a fire in me when someone tells me I can't
do something. And and now starting to realize, like more
and more, like that's how I grew up. Like my
dad was never like great job, you know, you're doing great.
It's always like, Mike, what are you doing? What do
you do? Why are you throwing a curveball? When you
just learn how to throw a curveball, throw a fastball?

(01:30:39):
And I'm like, leave me alone, Dad, I know exactly
what I'm doing, you know. And it's like in football
or a basketball it was always like you, how are
you missing foul shots? Mike? They're the easiest one. You're
just standing there, just hit the thing doing it, you know.
So like that's what I grew up with. So now
like when the audience I hear the audience doing that
kind of stuff, It's like kind of what I grew

(01:31:00):
up with, and it's made me who I am. It's
like my dad, Like I love the fact that he
did that and was like that because it gave me
a work ethic, like you had to work for everything,
every ounce, every inch, everything that you've ever gotten, like
and in ww you have to work for everything. The
reason why it was so hard in developmental is because
when you get up to the top and you're a

(01:31:22):
WWE champion, you have to be able to stand everything
and I mean everything, and so the pressure when you
were a champion, they're trying to see they're weeding out
all the people that that don't need to be there,
that can't withstand the pressure of being not alone WWE Superstar,
but can they stand the pressure of having the weight

(01:31:42):
of a WWE championship Because there's it's it's unlike anything
you can ever imagine. When you have that title, everything
is on you the company. We have a bad we
have a bad showing at an arena where it's not
sold out, or it's half full, or the PM doesn't
get as many buys, that's on you. It's not on

(01:32:04):
all those other guys. That's on you. You're the face
of the company. You're the guy that we put our
put everything into. So if we are failing, you're failing.
Like if I'm failing, the company's failing. That's that's what
you feel like, that's the pressure that you have. So
when you're going through the developmental and you're going through
that hell and it's tiring and it's hard, and you're
in you're you're sitting there going every day, you're saying,

(01:32:26):
can I do this? Oh my god, I don't know.
I don't know, but one more day, one more day,
one more day. And when I got up to WWE,
I got kicked out of the locker room. The the uh,
the the superstars didn't like me. And if you get
kicked out of the locker room, like I don't know
in football, but like I need people to teach me
how to be a WWE, how to be a top

(01:32:47):
talent in WWE. So people are like, well, why didn't
you fight the people? Like why didn't you, you know,
stand up for yourself. And I'm like, in that moment,
if I would still up for myself, I would have
got fired within a week and I would have never
made it back because I was that guy like that
nobody wanted there. I was the guy that was walking
on egg shells, but you know, somehow, some way, I
would crush every egg and literally, like I remember, I

(01:33:10):
was eating chicken in a locker room and a guy
came in. It's like, you got chicken all over the place.
And I still to this day do not believe I
got chicken all over the place because I was so
on the egg shells that I was like eating like this, uh,
and they were like, you got it everywhere. And then
by the time you know, the telephone happened, it was
like I was taking chicken and just throwing it all

(01:33:32):
over the locker room, you know, which I wasn't, but
then got kicked out of the locker room. Took like
six months to get back into the locker room, and
it was a lot of like yes, sir, hello, sir Helosa.
And by the way, back then, everyone shook each other's hands.
When you walk into the arena, you shook, you shook
everyone's hand. You look them in the eye. I don't
care if they were eating or whatever, because they'll find something. Right.

(01:33:53):
So if someone was eating and you didn't shake their hand,
and they saw you didn't shake my hand.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
Today he didn't shake your hand, game a posture and
going off.

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
How could he not shake your hand? It's not like
that anymore. And sometimes I missed those days right because
it really showed a respect and a want And honestly,
I remember I went into an audition for a Supernatural
and I walked in and I'm just so I just

(01:34:20):
shake everyone's hand. I shook everyone's hand in the audition,
and I remember getting the part and then being like,
how did I get that part? It is like, one,
you were amazing in it, and you there was no
one that we actually saw, but two you shook everyone's
hand like we've never seen anyone do anything, Like no
one does that, Like usually people just go in and
they're so in their head. And I was like, wow,

(01:34:42):
that was something that WW is always ingrained in me,
like you kind of even when I'm done with like
on like when I was doing American Gladiators, I after
we were done, I would shake everyone's hand at the
end of the night. It's just something that's ingrained in
me now, Like when you're done, you shake everyone's hand
because you look them in the eye and say thank you. Right,
kind of ingrained that in me. So I was like,
it doesn't happen now, like cause it's it's very it's

(01:35:04):
not loose, I would say, But I don't know. Back
then it was. It was very difficult. But I'm glad
I went through it because it made me realize like
I could take on anything. Yeah, I could do anything
I need to do, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:35:18):
Yeah, there was there ever a moment where you're like
at the top, whether it's w W Champion or you're
getting right there to where you failed on the mic,
or you had a lapse like during a promo, so
we're like, ah fuck, that was my moment.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
But that I let everybody it's every time I go
out there. I'm I'm so I will watch every A
lot of people don't like to watch themselves on TV.
They don't like the way they sound, they don't like
the way whatever. I dissect everything I do.

Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
When you watch this podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
Huh, absolutely, you're kidding me, And I will dissect everything
I should have talked about, that should have talked about,
that could have went in this step. I could have
done a joke there. That's just everything I do, I
literally I study it and say, how could I've on
that better? I will watch this podcast and I'll go,
how could I have done that podcast better? How could
I have done it? For the boys? Because I'm a
fan of busting with the boys, I think that you

(01:36:06):
what you've guys done, what you created out of a bus,
and especially that you guys obviously pro football players, very
very successful undrafted, but you did well. You're pat on
the back man. You were great on special teams, you
really were. You were, and you were a great linebacker,
you really were. But man, what you guys were able

(01:36:27):
to create. Think about that that it is very hard
to do be successful in one thing and then turn
it around and be successful in something else, and not
only that, create jobs for so many more people and
then have so many different avenues like you guys have
created a really cool atmosphere for people to come and talk.
I watched Don and Sue and I was like, I
always thought that guy was a jerk because I watched

(01:36:48):
him on football and it seemed like it seemed like
he was a jerk. And then I watched him on
here and I was like, I like that guy who's
soft spoken, he was eloquent. He was very business savvy.
I was like, wow, man, I did not think Sue
is like that. You know, he seemed like just a dirty,
dirty player.

Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
Yeah, he had a couple of things. Yeah, I'll tell
you what words of affirmation are the key to our hearts?

Speaker 4 (01:37:12):
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Back to this episode, so.

Speaker 3 (01:38:57):
I know the biggest thing going on right now is
Russell Poaluza. Russell Palooza, and I mean WW is going
to ESPN like talk about not only Russell Palooza. But
like how WD has been able to evolve in the
two decades you've been a part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
Ude, It's it's been incredible. I've been here for twenty
years and I remember when the scenes worked full right.
I remember when looking out there and it's just, you know,
how do we get more popular? How do we build
this business? And every day you just go out there
and you do the best you possibly can, you know.
And so now looking at where we are, we're on Netflix,

(01:39:34):
and I think us going to Netflix was a huge,
huge move. And the reason being is one of my
buddies lives down the street and he has three boys,
and he was like, yeah, they never really really watched
until you were on Netflix. Because now it's not at
eleven o'clock at night. They had to go to bed
eight to eleven. That's that's a late night. But when

(01:39:56):
they get home from school, it's on Netflix. It's right
right there. Number one show on Netflix. Boom. They turn
it right on, and that that's generating a whole new
ban base. Because we're also on USA for Friday Night SmackDown,
and then once TKO took over, it feels like we're
we're getting out there more in the world, if you will,
Like there's less live events, but we're traveling more worldwide

(01:40:20):
and they're creating new places like ESPN now is our
home for pls premium live events, and our first one
is Wressell Palooza. It's going to be a part of
the Big Six. You got WrestleMania, you got Royal Rumble,
Survivor Series, SummerSlam, Money in the Bank, and now Wressell Palooza.
We have Big Six. These are our big, huge pls

(01:40:43):
and they're all going to be on ESPN. We're moving
to everything, all our pls to ESPN. This is the
first one and it's starting off with a bang. I mean,
you have Cody Rhodes, who is our WWE champion, who
has been doing a phenomenal job as ww Champion. Have
you guys talked to him yet?

Speaker 4 (01:40:58):
I have gone.

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
You will want to talk to him. He has an
amazing story. It's Dusty Rhodes's kid, right and growing up
as a kid of a living legend to be in
that shadow, but not only to be in the shadow,
but to succeed under that shadow and take what he's done.
His story is tremendous. I mean, he literally was unhappy
in WWE. He left, he created a whole underground vibe

(01:41:24):
of literally a huge fan base that brought him back
into fruition to where people like WW didn't look at
him as a main eventor they said he's a mid carter.
So he said, I'm better than that. I know I'm
better than that, and I don't like where I'm at,
So I'm going to leave and I'm gonna build, and
I'm gonna make you believe that I'm a main eventor.

(01:41:44):
And he did exactly that. He came back and now
he is our poster child. He is. He's guile in
street Fighter, you know, and he's been doing I mean,
he's been doing a tremendous job. But I mean he's
going to be taking Drew McIntyre for the ww Championship.
John Cena is on a farewell tour. This is the
last time we're going to see him wrestle in a ring.
In Indianapolis at Russell Plouza against Sue brock Lesner.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
Yeah, man, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
I mean, brock Lesner is just a massive human being
and just full of just muscle and like when you
think of a professional wrestler like you show brock Lesner,
It's like, yeah, that guy. I don't want to mess
with that guy at all. And John Cena's last match
in Indianapolis will be against brock Lesner and he's on

(01:42:36):
a farewell tour and this is sad for I think
not only me, but I feel like the up and
coming superstars because I got to learn from John Cena.
I got to get the teachings from John Cena, and
now these kids that are coming up from our performance
center won't get that opportunity to wrestle John Cena. We
got to wrestle me, which is great, but there there's

(01:42:58):
there's a there's a difference, right, I've got to learn
from John Cena. Now hopefully I can take what he's
taught me and pass it on down. And that's what
you do as a legend in the business, right You
always want the stuff that you've taught and left on
this industry to be passed down for generations upon generations.
And so I've been fortunate and very lucky to be
in the ring. I want to do it one more time,
but I feel like he only has like six more

(01:43:19):
dates because this year is the last year I think
it's like December something is his last show. Yeah, is
his last wrestling match. He's been doing a farewell tour.
This is it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:29):
This is on September twentieth.

Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
September twentieth will be the last time you see John
Cena wrestle in Indianapolis.

Speaker 3 (01:43:35):
Oh buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:43:36):
Yeah. And so that's Russell Palooza. I mean, this is
what that why it's big. Not only that, like you
have seth Rawlins and Becky Lynch teaming up. They're a
couple going up against the couple of CM Punk and
aj Lee who just made her return in Chicago and
it was wild, it was It's big. And so the
couple's matches are always interesting because you never know, like

(01:43:58):
we always say, you never know what's going to happen.
But in a couple's match, like this is a real
life couples their real life and they're fighting each other
at Russell Palooza. I mean, I can't wait for Russell.
I mean and being able to go to ESPN, like,
I mean, it's the worldwide leader in sports, like I mean,
think about that. When I was a kid, what did

(01:44:18):
you what did you watch when you were a kid.
ESPN ESPN. Like when you wake up in the morning,
some people watch news. I watch ESPN. I remember like
ESPN esp in your face. You probably don't remember that,
but I remember that. Yeah, and now and and sometimes
I felt like, you know, ESPN kind of sidetracked us,
not such, but like kind of like not pushes aside,

(01:44:39):
but like we're w W. We were sports entertainment. Now
we're a focal point in ESPN. And I love the
fact of being on ESPN and being able to have
our huge events on there. It's gonna be amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:44:53):
The only thing that worries me for you guys and
Russell Palooza is it's I mean, I feel like someone
should have thought of this, but like you guys booked
it on the same day as the bust and Bowl.
Oh really yeah, that is Michigan versus Nebraska. It is
so yeah, it's a double header. It might be one
of the greatest days in entertainment ever.

Speaker 4 (01:45:10):
Yeah, right in Nebraska. Bust and Bowl was two thirty.
Did you go to Nebraska. Yeah, you went to.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
Michigan, Michigani State, I mean national champions but Ohio.

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
Yeah, okay, I mean yeah, because you said I heard
you mentioned Miami, Ohio. I heard you mentioned Stanford on
this and then you just said Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
Yeah, I mean, I uh, Miami, We're never in the tournaments.
Like the last time we were in a tournament I
think was like with Roethlisberger or Wally Zerbiak in the
in the NBA. But I mean, I mean, we're never
in anything. So it's the Ohio State went to Miami, Ohio.
He did, you know what's interesting about that? I have
a story about Sean McVay. Uh. So, Jay Glazier has

(01:45:53):
a gym unbreakable in uh Los Angeles, or he did.
I don't know if he still does. But Jay told
me to come down to work out there. First day
I get there, I'm like working out with like stile
Vester salone. And then who shows up? And this is
before he's the coach of the Rams, he just got
the job. Sean McVay walks in and so Jay's like,

(01:46:14):
you should work out together. I'm like, ah, sure, no problem.
I like, I was like, oh, yeah, this is a
good guy. Good I wanted to run through a wall.
Like when we were done working out, like he was
pushing me, like pushing me, and I was like this
is why this guy is going to be a great coach.
And then like he became this amazing coach and I

(01:46:35):
was like, I know why I felt it. Like there's
certain people that you can feel in energy and it
drives you. And there's something about Sean McVay that literally,
when you were around him, you want to do better,
you want to be better. You're like, I can, I
can beat this guy, but he's not gonna let you
beat him, Like you have to really work for it.
So McVeigh is awesome man in my book, that is awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:46:59):
You were able to have him at the Redskins.

Speaker 4 (01:47:02):
Yeah, yeah, he was the UC at Washington when I
was there, and he was he's a stud. Like I
know he was doing like the interview circuit fore head
coaching jobs, and the way they were kind of telling
me about it is he'll get in the circuit this year,
probably won't get a job, and then the next year
it'll keep growing and building. But apparently, like when he
went interviewed with the Rams, they didn't want him to
leave the room because he had did he had done

(01:47:22):
such an incredible job. Again, just the ore that he has,
like once you're around him, he's got it, He's got
that X factor.

Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
The last ten minutes the conversation took place, we talked
about Sharah Sanders, a bunch of things, Caleb Williams, Caleb Williams,
Is he the guy? Is he's not the guy? Seems
like a thing that you guys will never know the
answer to.

Speaker 4 (01:47:38):
At this point, if we talked about you would just
keep Bears fans just in hell because they would know these.

Speaker 1 (01:47:46):
I do not feel sorry for I saw your whole
little promo and I was like, you don't even get it.
You don't get you had you you had Rex Grossman
take you to the super Bowl, and you got to
go to a super Bowl. You know what I have
to go through. Yeah, at least you had Jay Cutler
for a while. Yeah, I mean that was fun.

Speaker 3 (01:48:06):
Me me, what have I had?

Speaker 1 (01:48:07):
What is the Cleveland Browns?

Speaker 4 (01:48:10):
So that video would have been great for you when
you guys had drafted what Johnny Manzel? What? What? What pick?
Did you have him on?

Speaker 3 (01:48:16):
Thirty first? Thirty first? Even then?

Speaker 4 (01:48:19):
But it's like, you know, they went through all these guys,
you got the number one overall pick, and he just
doesn't seem like he's going to be that number one
overall pick.

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
Many times have I had the number one pick or
close to the number one pick, or the guy that
everyone's talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:48:31):
Who's been the quarterback that you've taken, like Charlie.

Speaker 1 (01:48:33):
Frye, Brady Quinn, Brandon Whedon tough exactly to Sean Kaiser.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
Yeah, and that the video that McCoy, Oh, that's your boy,
Tyrod Taylor, Seneca Wallace.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
I mean, what else do you want? Huh? All G
three we had him as well? Yeah, is Mark Anderson?
I thought he was a guy. He didn't end up
being a guy. What else?

Speaker 3 (01:49:02):
Huh? Did I feel like? One photo of the uh
the fan that has like the name, and then a
whole bunch of sheets of like the other names that
took place, and you memorize life.

Speaker 1 (01:49:12):
I didn't memorize that's my life. I would amaze this
is what I remember.

Speaker 4 (01:49:15):
I would have made that video for you guys, had
you you know, had this. This is gonna be the
next coming of our court. This is gonna be our
quarterback for life. Oh, like, I know you feel bad
for the babies.

Speaker 1 (01:49:26):
A bunch of you don't get it. You didn't have
to go through a no win season and then the
next year win two games. Boy was that a fun year?
Those were fun for us. Do you understand what the
thing about Chicago is. It's a big city, right, They
got the Bulls, they got the You know, Cleveland needs
its sports. When it's sports thrives, Cleveland thrives. And that's

(01:49:47):
why we need great football team, basketball team, baseball team
because when those sports are going, that city is pumping. Man,
And that's what I love about that city. But it's
hard when the city when it's not happening, because it's
it's depressing. This city feels it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:05):
I feel.

Speaker 1 (01:50:05):
I love Ken Stefanski. Kevin Sevansky is a coach like
I do not think like if we do terribly this season,
we need to get Like, but.

Speaker 4 (01:50:13):
About what was your expectation going into this season for
the Brown Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (01:50:17):
No, it wasn't, Yes, it was. It was from Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (01:50:20):
Bro, you're not Joe Flacco?

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
Why not the why not us? Why not? Why not Joe?
He did it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:28):
Because the things you said, that's why not.

Speaker 1 (01:50:31):
You don't get it. Joe Flacco was an m v
P Super Bowl winning m v.

Speaker 3 (01:50:38):
I was in college when that happened. Yeah, so it
was two thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:50:42):
In the division. Now I like him.

Speaker 4 (01:50:44):
Yeah, But Joe Flacco, the age he's at now, I
saw him run. It looked a lot like me running
out there.

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
He's a pocket passer.

Speaker 4 (01:50:50):
Rodgers, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Like, there's no way you're
thinking this is a super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:50:56):
He's gone for a couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:50:58):
He's gone.

Speaker 1 (01:50:59):
By the way. We should have beaten Cincinnati. We beat ourselves,
and that's a lot That's what I think happens a
lot of time with Cleveland Browns. We end up beating ourselves.
Miles Garrett controls a game. It's interesting to watch him,
like Micah Parsons, like they're game wreckers. They ruin an
entire offense that literally thinks that they can do, an

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offense that usually can do whatever the hell they want
because Jamar Chase t Higgins, Oh, all these super sexy
uh playmakers, and then what happens. Miles Garrett's in there
and go, here's your seven yards for the second half?
And how do we lose?

Speaker 4 (01:51:33):
No offense?

Speaker 3 (01:51:34):
Joe Flacco was bringing back what do we do?

Speaker 1 (01:51:38):
What do I do? Dylan Gabriel, is that our guy?
Do you think Shuders are guys.

Speaker 3 (01:51:43):
I think Dylan Gabriel is pretty good when put him
against By the way, you guys lost the game forty
two to seventeen against the Ravens yesterday. Talking about Super Bowl,
I remember Gabriel came had a nice touchdown pass.

Speaker 1 (01:51:53):
Do you want to hear something about I thought Flacco
was going to get the win and then he was
going to have I think thirty one t is that
he's beaten. I thought he was gonna beat the Ravens yesterday.
I thought we were gonna win.

Speaker 3 (01:52:05):
That's what makes fandom the best. That is that delusional
thought process.

Speaker 1 (01:52:09):
It's not delusional. We it could happen. It could Miles
Garrett's on our team.

Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
It could, but not right now. Your offensive line is
not very good. Your best running back.

Speaker 4 (01:52:18):
Issue about what your expectations would be. The history that
you've talked about the Cleveland Browns and you go out
and get Ben Johnson, he's the new head coach and
you were it's like year two for the number one overall.

Speaker 1 (01:52:28):
We got like five years ago and he was the
coach of the year two of his like five years
that he's been. What do you want from me? Like
we have a Coach of the year. He's won Coach
of the Year twice.

Speaker 4 (01:52:41):
So when Stefanski came over, like, what was the expectation,
We're about to win the whole thing? Yes, yeah, so
we had my video would have been great for that year.
When you know those couple of years happened for you
guys in Baker Mayfield, Stefanski, Kim make.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
Can you can you explain this to me? Though? Here's
what I don't understand. You have Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield
was Rookie of the year, right and then and he
he he he had records. And then the second year,
I believe he got injured maybe and then he got ousted.
How does that happen? How do you look at a

(01:53:17):
guy that gets Rookie of the Year, that takes you
to a playoff that you play and wins. In the playoffs,
we almost beat the Kansas City Chiefs, if you remember that,
we we almost won that game. And so then you
go to kicking him off your team. Why, like, why
does that happen? I don't And then I met I
met Baker, and I got to tell you, I love

(01:53:39):
the guy.

Speaker 3 (01:53:39):
Yeah, I think anybody who comescross Baker Mayfield loves Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
So if you if you think Fancy didn't, do you
think that is it? Or do you think the higher up,
upper management? Like what would it be though? If you
see a guy in a locker room and he's getting
along with it, he seems like a guy that gets
along with the boys, like right, Like he seems like
a guy that can motivate a team.

Speaker 4 (01:53:59):
And no, know that you had a run game, you
had an incredible offensive line.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
Yes, I don't understand like that, Why why did we
get right? It'll it'll always be in my mind. I'll
never understand it. Being with him at the American Century Championship,
I like played eighteen holes with him and Kittle and
boy was that fun? Oh my god?

Speaker 4 (01:54:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:54:20):
I was filming for my uh my YouTube channel Miss
Golf out there for anyone that I wanted to watch subscribe,
subscribe Miss Golf. Uh yeah, I And honestly, at one point,
all three of us were listening to Baker's music and
dancing in the middle of the fairway and I go,
what do you listen? What is this We've been listening
to all day? It's the best music ever. He goes

(01:54:41):
big Booty Mix fifteen, and I'm like, you're kidding. I
was like, this is what this is. And so now
I have Big Booty Mix fifteen just playing all the time.
Whenever I'm golfing, I'm going to run. I'm telling you
it was correct.

Speaker 4 (01:54:55):
I listen. I know you're in paining as a Browns fan.

Speaker 1 (01:55:01):
You don't know what pain is. You sit there and
you cry about the Huskers.

Speaker 4 (01:55:07):
Will you don't know about the Huskers.

Speaker 1 (01:55:09):
What about the Huskers? You're gonna lose the Michigan. I'll
tell you that. I don't even like Michigan, but they're
gonna lose the Michigan. I don't even know. I mean,
is that even a game. It's gonna be like this,
zero points scored.

Speaker 4 (01:55:21):
I no clue my Bears video did this to you?
Because you're lashing out right now, but dact like I
don't know pain. You'd be sadly mistaken the Huskers over
the last decade since Alight to Nebraska, Bo Polini and
that staff.

Speaker 1 (01:55:35):
Yeah, yeah, my family's from Broken Bow, Nebraska. Some of
my family are the Husker fans. I've been there, I've
been to they are. Yeah. I think everyone's a Husker
fan in Nebraska. Get her done's a big Husker fan. Yes,
the cable guy is a big big I see him
at the American Century Championship as well.

Speaker 3 (01:55:53):
You should not go to Wrestle Palooza and come to
the bust and Bawl to check that out.

Speaker 1 (01:55:58):
I'd love to, But it's a huge event. It's our
Big Six and it's a big deal, and we're going
to promote the hell out of it here with Busting
with the Boys. Yes, it's a big deal.

Speaker 4 (01:56:10):
What's the I haven't I haven't like the you're telling me.

Speaker 1 (01:56:14):
You're telling me you don't want to see John Cena
versus brock Lessons.

Speaker 4 (01:56:17):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:56:18):
If you took a gorilla and shaded all all tear
offf its body, that's what brock Lessons that is. I mean,
he is a freak. That is going to be incredible.
I can't wait to watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:28):
And the way, there's the way we've been putting out
things when we went to Netflix with SmackDown USA. You
look at it now and you think we're going to ESPN.
We're pulling out all stops. So I feel bad for
you guys on that Saturday because we're pulling out everything.

Speaker 3 (01:56:44):
Can I be honest with you, No one could chow
up that game and will and I will be excited
about it, right.

Speaker 4 (01:56:50):
I mean, I'd rather be in Memorial Stadium on Saturday
where we kick off conference play with the Michigan Wolverines
in the bust And Bowl. We got our trophy. This
is a trophy game.

Speaker 1 (01:56:58):
So will you guys be kind of commentating on it
or will you guys?

Speaker 3 (01:57:02):
You guys we're sitting there, will be on the sideline.
I don't know what the dynamics look like. Last time
we stood on the Nebraska sideline, we'll probably do the
same thing again.

Speaker 1 (01:57:11):
You'll stand on the Nebraska sideline.

Speaker 3 (01:57:13):
Yeah, listen, I'm not here to put some No. We're
four to zero against Nebraska.

Speaker 4 (01:57:17):
You should see if you can stand on the Michigan side.

Speaker 3 (01:57:19):
I could if I want it. But if I go,
I go gbr after Goblue like it.

Speaker 4 (01:57:22):
Will knows that.

Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
JJ McCarthy, huh, we think JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 4 (01:57:26):
Where am I?

Speaker 3 (01:57:27):
JJ McCarthy, You got to take some time. I think
you had a great coaching staff, and I think you
got a good defense behind him too. They're going to
be in games because of their defense and the.

Speaker 1 (01:57:34):
Coaching staff at all worried.

Speaker 3 (01:57:36):
Well, yeah, I think you should be concerned a little
bit if you're a Vikings fan. But like he'll take time.

Speaker 4 (01:57:42):
Three years. Oh but wait, he's ruled out, So.

Speaker 3 (01:57:46):
Yeah, who got ruled out?

Speaker 4 (01:57:49):
But then being a first round pick, he'll have two years.

Speaker 1 (01:57:51):
Wait a second, he he's ruled out of the game already.
That's the second injury in two years. Yeah, that's tough.

Speaker 3 (01:58:01):
I can't get that bug. You gotta you gotta get
that wins.

Speaker 4 (01:58:05):
Since he's Michigan and you'ren Ohio state guy, a little bit.
I kind of see his antics right now.

Speaker 3 (01:58:09):
Oh no, yeah, but it's it's seen. But this is like,
you know, what do you do to a guy who's
been beat down four years in a row? Like do
I go and like say something better?

Speaker 1 (01:58:18):
The National champions I can't remember, do.

Speaker 3 (01:58:20):
You do you?

Speaker 4 (01:58:21):
Guys?

Speaker 1 (01:58:22):
Is it? I think it was Ryan Day?

Speaker 3 (01:58:26):
Leader of men?

Speaker 1 (01:58:28):
My goodness, leader of men.

Speaker 3 (01:58:29):
Ryan Day? That's your guy, I mean. And also, you
remind me a lot of a high state fan that's
on this bus right now, because you've mentioned three different
schools you were a Miami fan growing up, that you
were over the.

Speaker 1 (01:58:39):
Cleveland bro.

Speaker 3 (01:58:45):
Ohio State fans is the hardest school to get into.

Speaker 1 (01:58:47):
And I'm smart. I was like, you know what, I'm
going to the hardest school to get into. And I
went to j Crew. You it's the Harvard of the Midwest,
Miami of Ohio. I went there. Doesn't mean that I
was a fan of the RedHawks. Okay, all right, I
don't think anyone even goes to the red hawksim.

Speaker 3 (01:59:03):
Is, no one's coming at you here. I'm just pulling
something out.

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
I feel like someone's coming at me.

Speaker 3 (01:59:07):
Well, it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:59:09):
This and this and diving through and second. Yeah, Ryan
was Ryan Tannehill.

Speaker 3 (01:59:16):
Yeah right, Marcos Smarriotta, Charlie Whitehurst, Jake Locker had a
lot of Mettenberger who had a lot of them, had
a lot of.

Speaker 4 (01:59:23):
Let's get a quick tea quick ta. Let's bring it
back in, let's walk back in. Because I were you.

Speaker 3 (01:59:27):
Guys favored in the last game Michigan for sah State.

Speaker 1 (01:59:30):
I don't, I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (01:59:32):
It's minus twenty and a half points. You guys were
favored by in Columbus, Ohio.

Speaker 1 (01:59:36):
Do you know.

Speaker 3 (01:59:39):
Like passing how Michigan did last year?

Speaker 1 (01:59:41):
No, we went, don't follow we went.

Speaker 3 (01:59:43):
To the settings and we turned it off. There's only
we only threw. We threw more passing yards. The only
schools we threw more than were military school.

Speaker 1 (01:59:50):
I thought people forgot about Michigan since Jim Harball left.
I didn't even think it was a school anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:59:55):
Well, how state hasn't because you guys changed two laws.

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
Because of them, two laws.

Speaker 3 (01:59:59):
Yeah, it's a she illegal to go into Columbus, Ohio
and Wine.

Speaker 1 (02:00:03):
I'm just in hand. I am just telling you. Aren't
you telling you the truth? Did they ban you from
the U?

Speaker 4 (02:00:09):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:00:10):
I got in there in there week one Ohio State for.

Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
Second, I will, don't you worry.

Speaker 3 (02:00:15):
I love that Ohio State's always good. I love that
Ohio states always good. And I'm glad Ohio State won
the nas chamionship last year. It's good. Guys kept in
the big ten.

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (02:00:22):
Thank you, You're very welcome, Thank you, congratulations.

Speaker 1 (02:00:25):
Thank you so so.

Speaker 4 (02:00:26):
John Cena, Yeah, John Cena, the whole heel switch thing
is he's still a heel.

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
No, he's baby face now baby face?

Speaker 4 (02:00:35):
Now, how did that work out? High level upper management?
The move to do.

Speaker 1 (02:00:39):
John that I thought I thought it created intrigue and
interests because John was never a bad guy. Like I
mean at the beginning of his career he was a
little bit, but I mean for the ninety nine percent
of his career he's been the uber baby. Even when
people wanted him to change and go to a bad guy,
he never did. And so I don't know. This is

(02:01:01):
me speaking just on my mind, and what I know
is a WWE superstar, it creates intrigue. It's like, oh,
he's never done that. Maybe John wanted to do that
because or maybe the higher ups wanted to do that,
or it was just a collective unit where they were like,
let's try that. But sometimes that happens, right, and you

(02:01:22):
see what happens. And I mean John can make anything work.
John is just that talented. I mean you look at
what he's able to do, not only in WWE, but
in the movies. I mean you watch if you watch Peacemaker,
I mean that show is phenomenal, so good. It's the
work ethic that John Cena has and he's he's parlayed
it to every person that he's come across. Like for me,

(02:01:43):
like my work ethic stems from what he has put
upon me. If that makes any sense.

Speaker 4 (02:01:50):
Yeah, absolutely, obviously got a massive like what do you
call backlash whatever, all the engagement in the world. Yeah,
no matter what you want this, Yeah, if this is
not the route we want to go, we can switch
course now. But it's gotten everybody talk.

Speaker 1 (02:02:04):
So it was kind of cool because he did it,
and then it was like, oh, this is weird, this
is interesting, but everyone's talking about it because it's John Cena.
And then when he changed back, it created that much
more like, yes, he's back, our guys back for the
next four I mean, what is it three months? Now
we get him for three more months? God, it's crazy.
Like every time I see him, I go, what six

(02:02:26):
more days? Yeah, six more that's it. I'm wondering. And
now he's starting to use all the people that he's
paying tribute to, uh, to all the people that he's
wrestled by using their finishing move neuvers Like I saw
him use a GTS, I've seen him use pop up
power bomb from KO. I'm like, I wondering what he's
gonna use the skull crushing finale. I mean I did

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beat him in the main event of WrestleMania.

Speaker 3 (02:02:48):
Yeah, have you mentioned it to him text every.

Speaker 1 (02:02:52):
Day every time he sees me. I think I am
the one person like that was the right move. And
the only reason it was the right move is because
if Sina would have beaten me, would have been forgotten.
But I won't let you forget that right. And it
will go on and on and on for life, because
how many people can say they may invented WrestleMania, but
not only may invented WrestleMania as a bad guy one.

(02:03:14):
I think there's maybe two or three people that it's
crazy world. And I'm that guy. The kid from Parma, Ohio.
You got him know.

Speaker 3 (02:03:22):
Every time he was fan Miami fan, Stanford.

Speaker 1 (02:03:24):
Fan, Stanford said Stanford, I think you made that up.

Speaker 3 (02:03:28):
We can go back. He said something about Stanford.

Speaker 1 (02:03:31):
You went to acting school there, you went to MC
school at Stanford University. Definitely didn't say that, did I.

Speaker 4 (02:03:40):
He'll know because you.

Speaker 3 (02:03:43):
And I'm gonna want to text say.

Speaker 1 (02:03:45):
You were right. No, there's no way.

Speaker 3 (02:03:48):
Do you guys heard Stanford? Correct? Yes?

Speaker 4 (02:03:50):
Was it Stanford Connecticut?

Speaker 1 (02:03:51):
Maybe Stanford? Yeah, Stanford, Connecticut, Sam Stamford, Stanford, Stamford, Stanford, Stanford, Connecticut.
Where's the way to the Stanford.

Speaker 4 (02:04:05):
The only text they need out of you is just
when as John is as Johnson is doing everybody else's
signature moves, you shoot him a text can't wait to
see mine.

Speaker 1 (02:04:13):
Oh, I've already talked about it. Okay, good area, I've
already mentioned it to him a couple of times.

Speaker 3 (02:04:17):
How was he receptive to the idea?

Speaker 1 (02:04:19):
Of course? I love that John's always recepted to everything.

Speaker 3 (02:04:22):
Really yes, first rule?

Speaker 1 (02:04:24):
So yes, yeah, oh yes, very good. You've went, You've been.

Speaker 3 (02:04:29):
I love it, Yeah, absolutely love it. I know we're
can get you out here in a second five ten
poll events. You guys have added this six? How did
this come about? Adding this six? Russell Palooza?

Speaker 1 (02:04:38):
I think making a big deal uh for actually what
it is moving our ple e s to the ESPN
and finding something that kind of gravitates to ESPN. That's theirs,
right and Wreussell Palooza is it? Uh? It's in Indianapolis,
which honestly is a great sports spot.

Speaker 3 (02:04:56):
It's actually a great city.

Speaker 1 (02:04:57):
It's a great city, and I don't think it gets enough.
I think McAfee does a great job in promoting it.
I think the draft has done a great job in
promoting it. But like whenever we go there, the fans
are above and beyond. I mean we were just there
for Royal Rumble. We had seventy thousand in Lucas Oil
Stadium and so now to bring Russell Palooza and have
its entity come to Indianapolis for Russell Palooza, it's going

(02:05:22):
to be lights out. I mean, it is going to
be a show to be remembered. There will be moments
to take I mean we always say this like this
is our kind of thing, like you take away, Like
my job when I go in that ring is to
create a moment that will last a lifetime. What I
want is for families to be in the audience and
to be able to talk about the experience they had.
Something happened in the ring the miz did and the

(02:05:44):
father and son or the father and daughter, or the
mother and daughter and son, whatever it is, the family
gets to talk about that moment. And whether it's me
saying hey, kid, this is your hero, there's your hero,
your hero, or the hero being oh oh oh, something
along those lines. We create moments that last a lifetime.

(02:06:07):
So you can't put price tags on those because those
are the moment. Those are the memories that we have
with our kids, right Like I went to the water
park yesterday with my kids. I will remember these. That
is a memory I'll never forget, and I don't think
my kids will either. Me lugging up their rafts four
stories on those freaking stairs and then them being scared

(02:06:28):
and me like motivating them and being like, I know
you're scared. You know when I was your age, I
was scared too, But there's this is a moment that
you can You don't have to go down it, but
if you want to, and you wanted to down there,
you want to up here. I promise you you're not
going to get hurt. And then them going down, to
them jumping up and down in celebration that they did

(02:06:49):
something like that is I mean, I get goosebumps right now.
And my heart is filled with love right because seeing
them be scared of something and me being able to
motivate them and not something dangerous, but something that like,
I know they can do right, and I know they
just need to believe in themselves to do it. And
so that's those father moments where you're like, ahh, it's great.

(02:07:13):
So that's what I want families to have right, like,
not necessarily like that moment, but like a moment that
they can talk about and share for the rest of
their lives. That's what Wrestle Pollus.

Speaker 3 (02:07:23):
Will that juices me up. Rus Paulo, ESPN, seven pm
Eastern Time. All right, this is the last question before
we get you out of here. We all know that
anybody would do anything for a nice cold bud light.
What is something you would do anything for? You can't
say family. We've had a lot of subjects on the show.

Speaker 1 (02:07:42):
What would I do for a bud light?

Speaker 3 (02:07:43):
What would you do anything for? Because people, we know
people do anything for a bud light? But what it
would the mis do anything for?

Speaker 1 (02:07:50):
So obviously you do anything for your family? Yep, I
do anything for my.

Speaker 3 (02:07:53):
Wife, that's but that's families. No, family, can't do that.
Can't say family, What I do anything for?

Speaker 1 (02:08:00):
You know? I do anything for?

Speaker 4 (02:08:02):
Tell me.

Speaker 1 (02:08:04):
Just to relax, like my brain like and this can't happen,
but just to shut down my brain, to slow it
down and and just relax and just sit and just
I don't know, watch football or watch something that my
mind can just go at ease, Like I have a
hard time relaxing I'm never relaxed. I'm always on, whether

(02:08:28):
it's dad, husband, job, work, everything, boom boom boom, go
go go go, go, go go go, go, go, go
go go. And I feel like maybe you guys are
the same way because this whole thing that you guys
have going not just busting, but like your whole enterprise,
it's a lot of work. Yeah, takes a lot of
a lot of people to get that done, and a
lot of thinking and your family and your and your

(02:08:48):
friends and everything. It's just to set back and relax,
you know. You know what, Actually I got a better one, Okay,
because I was actually gonna do this with Miss Golf
with my dad. So my Dad's gonna be on Miss Golf, right,
and you'll get to see why I am the way
I am because of the way my dad literally coaches
me in golf and everything I do. Even though I'm
a profession wrestler. I would give anything to have a

(02:09:12):
dinner with my dad and just my dad. He will
not do it because I will go Dad, I'll come
home to Cleveland. I'll go Dad. Let's just let's just
go to dinner, okay, Mike, just me and you, Okay,
I go to that dinner. There's forty five people and
literally I'm shaking hands talking to people. These are all
his friends. He's proud, right, yeah, but he just he

(02:09:36):
doesn't get that I just want.

Speaker 3 (02:09:37):
To hang out with him.

Speaker 1 (02:09:38):
And it almost feels like, do you not want to
hang out with me? Right? You get what I'm saying. Like,
it's like, but he sees it as he talks about
me all the time, and my friends and family all
tell me he's always so proud. He talks about you.
All that doesn't tell me, but he tells everybody else.
And so it's like, hey, Mike, like, yeah, let's go

(02:09:58):
have dinner. Twenty five people show up. Don't worry about it,
says these are my buddies. Hey, this is my friend
that I've been talking about. Oh, here's your d Hey,
nice to meet you. Blah blah blah bla blah blah
bla bla blah blah blah blah bah. And by the
end of the night it's late. All right, I gotta go,
We gotta go. Didn't have that dinner, see what I'm saying. Yeah,
So that would be it, especially because my dad's getting

(02:10:19):
older and I read something the internet is a crazy
place right when she starts frolling, Man, you get sucked in.

Speaker 4 (02:10:25):
Actually just got the amount of times you see him.

Speaker 1 (02:10:27):
I don't live in Cleveland. We all have I don't
live in Cleveland. I live in Las Vegas. Now I'm
going to see my dad. How many times he's seventy
something years old? How many times will I will see him?

Speaker 3 (02:10:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:10:42):
Rick, we'll see him twice a year, twice a year.

Speaker 3 (02:10:44):
Yeah if that average age is seventy six, so he's
seventy two.

Speaker 4 (02:10:50):
Right, So you gotta assume just a hand.

Speaker 1 (02:10:52):
And any well he was he just had cancer on
his but he got his kidney taken out. He didn't
need to go through chemo or anything like that. So
that's that. But he always tells me. He's like, I'm tired.
I'm always tired. And I'm like I'm trying to think, like, uh,
maybe are you sleeping enough? I'm sleeping enough. Are you

(02:11:13):
eat what are you eating? Are you eating the right foods?
He's like, I think, so are you drinking enough water?
Like you're you're going through all the all the motions
and all that stuff. But it's like how and so
we're gonna play golf eighteen holes and he's like, well,
I got a card game the day before, Mike, so uh,
I'm like, Dad, can you not do the card game.
He's like yeah, but I'll be down. I'll be down
two thirty. And I'm like, we're playing at eight thirty

(02:11:34):
in the morning, so I'll be all right. I'm like, okay, Dad, okay, yeah,
all right. So we'll play eighteen holes and see how
that goes. But I think my bet is going to
be if I win, he has to have dinner with me.
But if he wins, I'll do an autograph signing for
him wherever whenever.

Speaker 4 (02:11:53):
I love that think, no matter what, we got to
clip this for you, so that way you can just
hey Dad, I'm done this fucking.

Speaker 1 (02:11:59):
So here's what we'll have. My family will send it
to him. God, don't worry about blah blah blah blah.
It's fine though.

Speaker 3 (02:12:06):
Yeah, it's fine, guys, it's fine.

Speaker 4 (02:12:09):
It's fine with you.

Speaker 3 (02:12:14):
I hope you get moment.

Speaker 1 (02:12:16):
You know that?

Speaker 3 (02:12:17):
Did he really?

Speaker 1 (02:12:17):
Yes, my dad had a WrestleMania moment. I put him
into a match at WrestleMania Met Life Stadium, me versus
Shane McMahon, and I told him if Shane starts beating
me up. You will walk in the ring and this
is what. So I told him to put up his
dukes and he put him up, like like like this

(02:12:39):
became a meme. By the way, this is a meme,
like it was the biggest most talked about picture, Like
look look the way he's standing like this is like,
get get a bit, like.

Speaker 4 (02:12:48):
This is awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:12:52):
I told him this duke's up. He puts up like
a nineteen forties like boxer, come on, put up, put
him up, put up. So so yeah, like he got
in there and uh, that became a viral moment, probably
the most viral moment at that WrestleMania. And He's like, Mike,
I was in the ring for five seconds. I became
a viral moment. And you've been doing this for how long? Yeah?
How many times have you gotten that big of a reaction.

(02:13:14):
I'm like, oh my.

Speaker 3 (02:13:14):
God, Yeah, look at that is awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:13:18):
That's actually not really I know, I know that's ai.
He never got into the ring with Lessner looking.

Speaker 4 (02:13:23):
Brock Lesler right there.

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you coming the show works.

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You guys work hard, so I appreciate it. Thank you guys.

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It's a long pod too.

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