Tony Vitello On How He Landed Historic San Francisco Giants Manager Role + From CBB To MLB | Bussin' - Bussin' With The Boys

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Welcome to Busting with the Boys, Episode three fifty three.
The Boys Spootober is over. We are now in the
Thanks Given season. Christmas season is upon us.

Speaker 6 (00:57):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
We have Tony Vtello winning us on the bus today,
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(03:14):
Everything happened that is in the recap show. This is
the Bustin intro and Boys. Spootober is over. Another year
is gone, Another year has passed. Moment of silence for Spootober.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
It's been an interesting year for sure.

Speaker 6 (03:33):
Last week I said on this bus wall you find
gentlemen were dressed up in your best Halloween costumes. It
was beautiful, it was wonderful. There's only one thing missing.
The head of Spooktober, the man who dubs himself number
one of all Spookiness, was not wearing that I like
to believe I wrote the ship a little bit throughout
the week. That's not for me to say, put it
in your court. I'm basically putting words in your guys's mouth.
I will take the compliment, thank you. But a hell

(03:55):
of a Spootober for the Lawan family. The Lawan family
as a whole didn't watch as many spooky movies as
I wanted, didn't get my adult fix of Spooktober that
I like to get. But from a family standpoint, Disney
World Mickey Mouse is not so scary Halloween. We had
the trick or treating, we carved pumpkins, we had I
think my kids trigger treated three separate times, including a

(04:17):
Halloween party as well. So overall I.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Have to get We hit Nico Lane.

Speaker 6 (04:23):
By the way, dude, if I'm ever gonna move from
my house in Nashville, Tennessee, that's the neighborhood I'm moving into.
It is they bought in. You could tell there's a
couple of bad apples, Like there's four or five houses
out there that either they're too old or they're anti Halloween.
But that whole neighborhood, dude lined up. There was a
tent where adults could go and get their adult beverages

(04:44):
while the kids were hitting the trick or treating Willie
see hit me up?

Speaker 5 (04:48):
Hey.

Speaker 6 (04:48):
We went to this place last year, my neighbors telling
me this is the spot to go, and I was
dealing with gout, which we'll talk about in a little bit.
But that was the That was trick or treating. That's
trigger treating on staireroids.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Dude.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
Everybody's dressed up, everyone's having a good time. Parents are
making jokes and other parents of like what costumes we're in.
We're all kind of staying in character with each other.
Your family was dialed in. I thought. Every time I
looked at Charo, I laughed, Bro, I would see what
you just hear just Charles's voice coaching. Oh hey Taylor,

(05:21):
shit all right? Bing bomb. But dude, just so funny
it was. It was outstanding. And there was like roadblocks
with the police officers. You get down the street and
it was like a firework display where like the finale
was the last house in the left. Dude, their display.
I looked at the tail and I go, we gotta
step our ship up, dude, Like this is I like
to take a lot of pride in the decorations you

(05:41):
put in the one household this house, their lights, their decorations.
I was like, this ship is incredible. That is amazing.
And Charles's parents too, I didn't even realize it was them.
What stuff about that?

Speaker 7 (05:57):
He's like, Ah, just Will having to be year. I mean,
he crushed it, he owned the role. He crushed the role.
But it just doesn't sit right with me that he
was that he was assigned to be feared.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, that's not Will. That's not what I hate that
that got used against me immediately, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (06:16):
Like that, And it won't be the last time.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Nebraska, anytime they showed me play a top twenty five team.

Speaker 7 (06:20):
It's just me, Bro, it's now there forever. Yeah, you
put in way too much work to have that be
your legacy.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, yeah, I don't disagree with that.

Speaker 6 (06:32):
I thought you knocked out of the park a couple
of things too. Yell a little piece of green in your teeth?

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Oh thank you.

Speaker 6 (06:36):
Yeah, we're gonna get that out of the way. Side
other side of the side of the said, ah, yeah,
one over to the one over yeap, that one?

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Did you get it?

Speaker 6 (06:45):
Smile?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
At me.

Speaker 6 (06:46):
Boom, He's back.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, dude.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
The whole though fit was it was outstanding.

Speaker 7 (06:51):
Who was the winner that y'all saw? Like everybody looked
and was like, dang, that's a good costume.

Speaker 6 (06:55):
I saw one dad in a Willie Wonka fit, yes,
but it was like, well, like a very well like
actual three piece. I probably got a custom made. I'm like,
this dude really sold out. Good looking cat good. Yeah,
had the longer hair, the big hat on the cane.
I was with that. Yeah, I saw a times.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
The second time around, He's like, what's up, will And
I was like, oh, okay, we're both just not awkwardly
staring at each other. I thought he just looked great
in the Willy Wonker.

Speaker 6 (07:21):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think the first time I met
he was like, bro, you really that's awesome. He's like, yeah,
you too, Dobby, And I was like, ship, all right,
you understand my game. You understand my game a little bit.
Look at that hot dog. Yeah. Anyway, dude, Spootober was awesome.
It was awesome for the ones. I'm sure the confidence
had a great time. Would you just call Pumpkins?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
No covering Pumpkins? We kind of gave up after last week, dude,
I shut down the entire house. Okay, Taylor quit on that.
We gotta pack it in. Don't say that we gotta.

Speaker 7 (07:55):
So just to be clear, are you stepping down or
are you not?

Speaker 6 (07:59):
I can't step that. If you guys think there's somebody
that's more fit at this bus, I can't stop you.
This as a democracy, there's no hierarchy here. I would
love another opportunity, cause you're right, listen the multiple gambling
shows the ESPN. My brain got too like focused on
my weekly routine that when Spootober came, I didn't give

(08:19):
it what it should have been. I see where I
went wrong, and I apologize for that. I could be better.
And then it was just I just mashed a bunch
of it in the last week, mashed.

Speaker 8 (08:30):
I do want to throw it out there. I don't
think it would be like a democracy type thing of like,
oh we vote for somebody to replace Taylor. They would
have to challenge you head on to a spook off.
I think it's like a one v one Battle of.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
The Spook, Battle of the Spook.

Speaker 8 (08:44):
I don't think anybody's going to challenge you, though. I
think you still are the Prince of darkness. But I
just wanted to put it out there, a spook off
if somebody wanted.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
To challenge you know, the person that I think would
challenge me and probably have the most likelihood of success
is the person that was just talking on the mic.

Speaker 8 (09:01):
I don't have it. I ain't got it.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
We'll break it down, you know, we'll look at we'll
look at the winds of Speotober, We'll look at what worked,
what didn't, where there's opportunity, and it'll be a collective brand,
like we're gonna have to get more guys involved, because again,
we were in a this was a big, massive contract
here for Taylor, and I think if you're looking at
it front office wise, you're gonna have to figure out
something replaceable for what we did.

Speaker 6 (09:26):
I didn't like any of that. I like the way
that felt at all happen.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
I know it's uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
Hey, you make the bed. You have to be able
to sit there and be like, hey, why is he
saying that? Why is it hurt? Because there's truth in it,
That's why it hurts. And I have to sit there
and I have to realize, listen, it's November three, right now. Correct.
I got a long way to the next Speutober, the
longest ways you can possibly get. And there's a lot
of reflecting I need to do you as well, the
front office, you guys. You guys need to have your

(09:52):
internal conversations. Then I shouldn't be a part of because
I didn't earn that right. And I just hope at
the end of the day we get to September and
we know spoo to obra's on the horizon, you guys
can look at me and be like, we're gonna give
you one more shot. Yeah, that's all I'm that's all
I'm hoping for.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
How many days are we until Spootober?

Speaker 6 (10:07):
Oh it has to be three hundred and thirty one?

Speaker 1 (10:12):
We just typed that out right now on Twitter. It's
not oh yeah, yeah, no, yeah, sixties yeah, sixty.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
One because Spootobra starts October one.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Oh yes, that's another great point. We're leading.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
It might be thirty one, thirty two. Are you just
tweeting that you just tweeted that out.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
I might have to be the guy. I might.

Speaker 6 (10:37):
If there's a guy here that's gonna hold it, it's
not gonna be you.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
I might have to like next year, like when Merch
comes out and everything else, I just might have to
be the guy for Spootobra.

Speaker 6 (10:46):
Spook Off. Yeah it doesn't. We can actually have a No,
I haven't, and I know that I just did it out.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
You're lying, No I didn't. No, I'm like, I'm like,
now will I when this episode comes out? So that
way everybody's in on the inside joke. But yeah, it's
it's more of that. It's like mere Monday, We've got
to take a good, hard look in the mirror. We
have to get uncomfortable and be like, what's going to
push if? If Spootober is going to be a real
thing for the brand, we got to remove the we

(11:15):
had fun as a family. Is like do we want
this to be a hobby or do we want this
to be a thing for the brand?

Speaker 6 (11:21):
But let's look at the last week, right, You're only
as good as your last week in Spootober and I
think if you want to Bee brought it home. Yeah,
we're talking about eight different eight different costumes in ESPN.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
You needed a lot of motivating starting last Monday.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
When we is to not be motivated by others, be
motivated by yourself. How do you beat yesterday. That's the
goal here.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
He's being Michigan.

Speaker 7 (11:44):
It's like last year they're having a down year, but
they come in and they beat a house state at
the end. Yeah, it's kind of it's it's a reflection.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of Like it's like if
there's an analogy, it just feels like the Mitch's fandom.
Mitch's fandom in this last spook okay, and.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
Like when I was really challenging him about it, we're
just kind of starting to try to hurt at this point,
like we're really driven a point at home. If we
won't have a spook off, that's fine, but it's like,
what do you really want this? It's like, yeah, I do.
It's like but you think about it, Yeah, but I
still want it. But I could also Yeah, but I
still want it. Like, hey, I could be better, no

(12:22):
doubt about it. Did I drop the ball, especially in
the middle of Spootober, No doubt. Did I kind of
have a massive lawan family spoot.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Ober, No doubt.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
But when it comes to bus with the boys, Yeah,
could promote the merch better, could have came in with
more outfits, could have done a whole there's I could
have done a little bit more work for a much
better result. And that's really what you look at. It
didn't take much to have the last week that I did.
It's just like a little motivation and I need to
zoom out a little bit and realize what we did
on ESPN there that could have been every single week here,

(12:54):
so I'll be better. Someone wants to have a spook off,
we can have a spook off it that's fine. By the
end of the day, what's the most important. It's celebrating Spooktober.
That's the most important thing. So let's not have to
be about Taylor or Will or JP or Mitch's fandom
that way animally just takes bullets. This is about well,
it's like the opening season of the holidays, and we've

(13:16):
opened the season.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
We had.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
It was a little bit rough, we got it good
with at the end. Now we're looking forward. What's next?
Is it Christmas? Is it is it Thanksgiving? Like that's
the now debate what's going on here, and let's get
let's let's have fun, let's enjoy it, because at the
end of the day, we know, hey, this product wasn't
good enough. Taylor all right. I understand that, we understand that. Yeah,
if you want to there's another thing you want to say,

(13:38):
You're more than you know.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
If there's ever space we get to say a few things.
It's like, uh, we're really coming down hard on Matt
for turning off the TV. It felt like this was
a moment where you've turned off the TV, you turned
it back on. There's some redemption in here. Yeah. And
I think the team like we've we've all we've all realized, like,
how do we get the best out of our guy? Like,
how do we motivate our guide? I think we've kind
of found those I think we've kind of found those buttons.

Speaker 6 (14:02):
Yeah, And I think the goal now for me internally
when I have my own internal conversations with me, is Okay,
they motivated you this year. How do you bring the
motivation and stay consistently motivated through thirty one days of
fright without having them have to come and pull you
out of the weeds. Totally fair? I see that. Let
me get back it. Let me I'm starting to work.
It's like, dude, it's like Santa and his elves, Like

(14:24):
I'm working towards Spooktober now, Like it it takes three
sixty five to have them more with them thirty one.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:31):
Yeah, but is there another analogy you want to use.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
No, I'm just saying, if I'm having internal conversations with myself,
it's like, all right, you know how to motivate your guy.
You got to continue to coach him hard when those
opportunities come, and so at collectively we will be we'll
all be doing that, right, yeah, we all will all
be better, be better. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:48):
I forget the fact that I just said I can
motivate myself and all that, but I.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Know, but I'm just saying, I know a player feels
that way. But sometimes it's like, hey, this is how
you got to coach this player, right, this is how
you got to motivate that.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
And then a lot of times the players are gonna
find out are you going to mature a player? Are
you not? And I feel like this is an opportunity
for me to mature as a player.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
But yes, as that coaches like this guy's been on
the roster for four or five years, for four or
five years, and.

Speaker 6 (15:11):
I had it down. Here're gonna throw me away?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Right?

Speaker 1 (15:13):
He has not been several years.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
Last year said last year was the best year season
which every single week we went out and we got
we went to uh Spirit Halloween together, we went and
got pumpkins. Together, we displayed we got pumpkins and say
these are the personalities. Last year was a great year.
You can't look at this year and look at last
year and be like, now both years are bad. This
is not a great year. That was not a great year.

(15:36):
Did it get better at the end, yes, but do
we know, like, hey, one blip on the radar, one
blip on the radars, all of a sudden it changed
the last four or five years. That's how losing franchises
continue to lose. We want to be a winning franchise.
Let's not make it. Let's not steamroll, Let's not just Hey,
this is a step at a time. Look at the mountain.
Now look at the first step. Let's take the first step.
That's November a contract year, going to contract year, contract

(15:58):
yearn for another year.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
And we know contract we know collectively the things we
gotta do to just push continue to push this thing.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
For he's a he's a great player, who franchise tagged him.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
We need one more, one more per year. Yeah, you
gotta get good pieces around him. That's where he flourished.

Speaker 6 (16:16):
And I'm sitting here saying, coach, fuck the new pieces.
I can do this. I'm griving you by the caller.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
I can do this. I know, I know.

Speaker 6 (16:24):
We all we Yeah, we don't need anybody else. We
got everything we get is right in here. Regardless of negativity.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
We're not gonna have not negativity. Iss, just a learning
This is a learning moment. Sometimes it was.

Speaker 6 (16:37):
The first three times get a chipper out there. Now
it's just negativity. I was like, hey, I learned from it.
You're like, yeah, but but I learned from it.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (16:46):
But the goal is how do we make it better?
How many times you're gonna have the conversation? Right if
you're if you're explaining to somebody an issue and they
say I got it, are you going to continue to
man's playing at them, or you're gonna let them count
of fucking they say they got it, let me see
if they actually got it. Because I've got it, I
understand this is what this is for the team into
Mitch's fandom. It's all right, crazy, but all right, I

(17:07):
understand what you're trying to say. Yeah, but it's also
like Matt turning off the TV. It's like, all right,
I still got it, Like what are we doing here?
At some point I gotta be like, hey, I gotta
defend myself now.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, this is you are exactly what I need you
to be right now. Okay, so we got you. We need.

Speaker 6 (17:29):
People talk about Dylan Royol a broken fib, throwing out
wristbands and ship like. No one's talking about Taylorwan having
gout on Thursday switching into eight different outfits. No one's
talking about Taylorwan having gout, sitting on an air strip
for forty five ninety minutes wait to take off and
whether that could have taken out planes when we made
to Nashville. No one's talking about Taylorwan have a gout
with no medicine and his kids walking multiple miles during

(17:52):
trigger treat and not flinching because his kids got to
have the trick or treat. All right, they know their
dad's gonna be they it is his dad's holiday, all right. Yes,
Saturday November first, was I up on the couch with
my foot elevated, hitting rice all day?

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (18:06):
I was, But it was because of Spootober. It was
for Spootober. Am I in pain right now sitting on
this bus. You bet your ass I am. But it
was because of Spootober. So don't come at me and
say my dedication is not there all right after I've
said I've got it, and then you want to pile on.
But boys, hey, let me tell you something about gout.
It's no fucking joke.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
I would probably wish with on my worst enemy. But
like people I just don't like, I would not wish
this on. Gout is horrendous diet. Like I used to think,
gout was like a for heavier set gentleman who treat
their body, yeah like that, treat their body like shit.
Like I try to be pretty good in the health

(18:50):
and wellness category, especially as how many you know how
many times you dive had first into a pile. You
guess they head of the chains a little bit. I'm
I've treated my body like shit the last month, no doubt.
There's been a couple of snickers laying around late at
night in a dark alley, and I think you shouldn't
be here all by yourself. I go and take them
boys down. I'm paying for it. I earned this. I
have to essentially change my relationship with food, because this

(19:10):
is like, I hope you guys never have to deal
with gout. It is is.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
This something you have that's just like genetic to where
you're dying.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
I don't know that'd be good for the comment section
because I don't think my dad ever had it. I
don't know anybody in my family ever talking about me.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
And it's just like a month of just having some
fun with some food. It's like I do that all
the time, dude.

Speaker 6 (19:34):
It is sharp. Like so Wednesday night, we get there.
My foot was a little sore, which I didn't think
much of. Go to sleep, wake up for like whatever,
five whatever I am for ESPN, stand up, literally fall
to the ground. I feel like a gunshot, like similar
to what you're talking about when you hit your foot injury.
A gunshot going off in your foot like that fucking hurts.

(19:54):
But a lot of times gout's like very like a
cute It'll be in one little area of your foot,
so you can overcomp it to like okay, I'll just
stay on like the outside of my foot and kind
of alleviate that pressure. This one, for whatever reason, it
was like the whole bottom of my foot kind of
like the middle area where if I was going to
push off, it was just so painful. And then through ESPN,
like it kept getting worse and worse, and every time

(20:16):
I had to go and change into different outfits, I'm
like in pain where I'm looking at Jack going I'm
in every commercial break, I'm like, dude, I'm hurting so bad.
We get to a Friday, and I like, it's kind
of feeling better. But after all that walking, like the
next day on Saturday, I went to like get out
of bed and I like, literally it took me like
twenty five thirty minutes to get out of bed to

(20:36):
where like Nathan Worksman and Taylor are in the room
and I'm like, like, how can we help you? I
was like, please just leave me alone, Like I feel
so vulnerable right now in my underwear while you guys
are trying to get me out of bed, Like I'm
like crawling to the toilet just to take a morning piss.
Like I would think to myself, like I would drink.
I'll be on the couch drinking a bunch of water,
and I would think, I got I kind of have

(20:58):
to pee right now, and I would be so afraid
to stand back up and go to the bathroom. That
another forty five minutes would go back to where like
I'm rushing to the bathroom, but I'm in so much
pain that like I'm borderline pissing on myself. That's how
much pain on dog I would have.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
I would have.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
There was a couple of times I was laying there
and be like peeing myself right now over getting up
is kind of a wind. That's how painful this was, dude.
And it's like it's not like, oh, I lay down
and put it up, it feels better. It's like I
any like there's no it's discomfort all day. And when
I stand up, like you would see the discolouration of
my foot to where my oldest wind she'd come up

(21:34):
to me, like Dad, why are your feet like complete
different colors? And like my left foot would be like
raised when I had both feet on the ground because
there was so much swelling on the bottom of my foot.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Dog.

Speaker 6 (21:44):
And it's like needles. It's like needles like sticking in
the joints of your feet. It's so painful.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
Do you not have like one of those cards from
the acl where you put your knee on it and
it keeps your foot up.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
No, but I had some crutches in the basement that
tailor went and got. But a lot of times with
curses like you'll put the injured limb down and like assist,
I couldn't even put my foot on the ground. I
how to like hover. So I'm like doing like the
kid thing where you're like swinging yourself all around kids
toys everywhere, because I got my two kids and then
Nathan has three kids that are all under four, and

(22:17):
so there's toys everywhere. It was a minefield out there.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, to morrow, I.

Speaker 6 (22:21):
Just go to the man cave and just put my
foot up and be like, hey, you guys, enjoy the trip.
I'll be in here just And then I find like
I'm a big like anti antibiotic guy, Like I don't
want to take antibiotic. I don't want to take like
talan or anything. I eventually gave in and I'm just
like I need it. So I'm like on a medrol
dose pack. Now I'm on a heuric acid. Yeah, I'm

(22:41):
on all of it, and it's gotten better to where
like literally, if it was Saturday, if I was feeling
the way I felt Saturday, I'd probably call on sick.
I like would not be able to make it into work.
That's how bad it was, like just sitting I have
to have it up. It was awful. It was awful, dude.
Still it is pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, it's honestly, it's crazy thinking like any injury that
feels debilitating just feels like this is the worst thing that.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
Possibly of the world. It's the end of the world.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Like even like say, I would you know, strain my
like ucl playing football and it's like in my elbow
and you like can't do a pull up, you like
can't really press against anything, and you just like, God,
this is the worst thing of all time. And it's like, well,
I would I rather have this? Or would I rather
have a shoulder rather have a knee a foot or
growing And anytime you're going through any of the injuries,
you're like, this is just the worst pain of it.

Speaker 6 (23:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, everything hurts, and it's like your foot
starts to hurt. But then once you're in pain for
a long time, like everything else just starts to hurt. Also,
like you start to feel like achy almost. It was
a terrible weekend. It was Awful's and ps Man still battling,
still battling right now? Am I actually in a sweat

(23:51):
thinking about it right now? No, It's like a once
a week thing for me. Right now. I got to
reevaluate everything, bro, I gotta I gotta to re look.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
At pretty good for the most part.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
Yeah dude, but my yeah, I'm pretty good at like
my diet exercise. This last month though, I've kind of
like let go of the rains and I've kind of
only getting like two workouts a week. I'll like, I'll
see something in the corner, you know, Clump's wife brings
in those pies and I'm like, I'm not gonna eat that.
But then I get done with the two gambling shows

(24:23):
and Connor Hunger right now, so you have a slice.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Everybody in the shops talking about it tas so yeah, how.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
Good it is. And I'm just thinking, I got to
I got just I got to get powerful about saying
no to myself, Like this is an internal battle.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
We might need to make like a morning lift group
here at the shop. Get over it with the sword.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
Next maybe, man, But it's also like where are we
gonna shower?

Speaker 9 (24:47):
The issue is, boys, The issue is is just holiday
seasons kicking up the colder weather, and now that we
full back, it gets darker sooner.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Charle chocolate chip cookies. Last night we had chili and
of course I had two peanut butter sandwiches with it.
But it's just it's that time of year. Left over candy,
Like I've just been going to like rouse little pumpkin
little bucket and just one at a time, just every hour.
You just make your way over there and grab one.
You know, it's a little mini Eat this right now,

(25:19):
grab a second one, eat the first one real fast,
then walk out of the laundry room with one, like
I had to get a piece of candy thinking that
the first one didn't even count.

Speaker 6 (25:28):
And that's so real. Do you all do the switchwitch
with real What the switch witch?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
The switch witch? I don't think so it's.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
A little it's a little put you guys on game.
When you have kids, they have their they trigger treat
and it's like, hey, if you want to do a
switch witch, if you put out some candy, the switches
will come a night and maybe bring you something. So
it's kind of like you get like a little twenty
dollars toy or something like that, and you switch out
the candy. So they make the decision, I'd rather have
a toy than candy, and so you just kind of
like get rid of that candy can.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Because I'm thinking I got to stay on top. I
can't let me read all this can I'm gon this
case and dude, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
With Wind, we have had like Tealan saw this thing
like if you don't, if you don't let your kids
have like sugar for the first three years of their life,
like once they have sugar their bodies that they'll know
it's bad for them. And so the first candy, the
first piece of sweet Win ever had was from Will
during thingsgiving. Gave her a piece of crumble cake or
something like that. Not a big deal, but she was

(26:22):
like two and a half at that time, where it's
like we've gone long enough without giving Win sweets. Her
body is probably going to be like anti sweets. There's
probably not another child on this earth that is obsessed
with sweets more than when this, it's like crack to her, dude, maybe,
but she's eight, bro, and I'm like, when you got
to make a decision because I know it's bad for me,
but I just can't stop that. We have like legitimate conversations.

(26:45):
Make honey, like, you eat this candy, like it's going
to be so bad for She's like, I know, but
I just can't stop. She's an addict. Win is an addict, bro.
And it's like, dude, you got to stop eating this
candy because it's like she'll jump through hoops for a
piece of ice cream.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
She'll just hoops you as a young as a young lad,
like that's just you chase them, sweet chase.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
It's like the high bro. And we saw that mostly
at Disney World, where it's like early morning to get
the Disney worlders. We only had Friday and Saturday coming
back Sunday, and we get up super early on Friday
and it's like, well, Taylor and I are having coffee.
We kind of realized, like you give them a couple
pieces of shirt kind of resets their little resets their

(27:29):
energy a little bit.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
So we're kind of.

Speaker 6 (27:30):
Keeping them alive with candy, which is like the weirdest
thing ever. But the backfire the next three four days, Dude,
it's like kids coming down like they're itching, they're moving around,
ed you sure you don't got one more skittle in there?
For me, it's like we got to keep you away
from the skittles.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
A little bit.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
I feel like the way to get this happened to
me for a little like when when I was a kid.
I was like kind of like Win, once you get that,
you to that first dentist appointment and you got a
cavity or like you need a filling, Like the pain
from that will be like, Okay, I can't eat sweets
anymore because I do not want to go through that again.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
A couple of weeks, maybe it's easy back in that sound.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
You know, he's right, he's right, because we went in
and Win had a couple of feelings. She had to
get in and it was like I'm not having sweets.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
I'm not doing that.

Speaker 6 (28:16):
And it was probably two weeks exactly, and Win's back
in there. Like my pantry, I try to keep as
clean as possible, but we'll get like these like healthy
like chocolate things, and Tale is all about like lesser
of two evils kind of thing, like she's gonna have
the things in there probably be like the healthiest version
of the bad thing. My kids will sniff that ship out, dude,
And you know, sometimes I'll wake up a little later

(28:36):
than they are and that fucking pantries taken down, stepstools
are put up. These kids are there. They're innovative.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (28:43):
The way that I'll put it at the top shelf,
they're fucking swinging, catching it, getting back. It's just crazy
what they'll go, the lengths they'll go to the lengths.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
I respect it. I did too, but I was.

Speaker 6 (29:02):
Yeah, bros tough, but yeah man.

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Speaker 6 (31:29):
Episode, Spookober is over. Now the tickle turkey lives. The
tickle turkey lives.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, explain the tickle turky.

Speaker 6 (31:36):
So tickle Turkey. I kind of got from one Jack
Conklin and the movie ThanksKilling. Do you guys have you
seen the movie Thanks Killing?

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Is that? What is that? The turkey?

Speaker 6 (31:45):
Yeah? Yeah, it's a low budget cult film or whatever.
But the tickle Turkey essentially is this, I will go
and I'll tickle my kids and every time tackle my
kids to go. And that's a tickle turkey. Tickle turkey
lives from November first to Thanksgiving. That's in the tickle
turkeys a lot. That's the that's the things killing turkey.

(32:05):
Funny ass movie, dude, the movie opens up with just
a nipple like it's the funniest, it's hilarious, but yeah,
the tickle Turkey's fun. He'll just kind of Jack Conklin
would do this after after Halloween. Jack would just go
in and like tickle other players at the locker room,
walk up behind him and tickle them. And then so

(32:25):
once I guess, I was like, bro, I gotta the
tickle Turkey's gotta be a thing in my household. So
now my kids every time around them, they're like they're
kind of doing this or like.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
So the tickle turkey is just always active.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
Tickle turkey is always active, can always get you. He's
not just gonna come out though when you want him to,
Like Willow will be like that, bring out the tickle turk.
I hate n't do that, but once she turns her back, boom.
Tickle turkey.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Is it like a thing though to where it's like
on uh, what's it called lepre con Day? Irish Day,
Saint Patrick's Day, Saint Patrick's Day, to where if you're
wearing green you don't get pinched.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
No, didn't ever text you from the turkey turkey? If
you yeah, if you wear. I guess if you wear
a turkey, if you're wearing a turkey hat or a
turkey shirt, I guess you can't get you. That's a
fun little that's a fun wrinkle. But the tickle Turkey's
out from November first to Thanksgiving. The day Thanksgiving, I
told well, was like the turkey dies, we eat the
tickle turkey, and then it's Christmas. Okay, So yeah, tickle

(33:21):
Turkey's out. Boys, and that's for everybody in the shop too.
You can get tickle. Just know your boys can get
God around here. Huh, what are you going to say?

Speaker 1 (33:28):
JP?

Speaker 7 (33:29):
No, I have a like hilariously embarrassing story about similar
to the tickle turkey. We were at this like party
at one of our friends houses and there was this
hallway that a bunch of the people were lined up in.
Anytime someone walked through the hallway, they're tickling them tickle
turkey basically. So I'm like, I want to be a
part of this. This would be funny. And I don't
know if they were just scheming on me the whole time.

(33:50):
And I'm like kind of first in the order. And
this girl comes walking through that we're friends with, and
I go tickle her, and nobody else goes and does it,
and I'm like, any of usn't ticklish. So I'm just like, yeah,
I know her, but not like that close. I'm like,
I'm sorry. I mean you're like, yeah, she's like what

(34:12):
are you doing? Like do you have a at the time,
Like you have a girlfriend. I'm like, yeah, you make
any noise when you're trying to tickle her. I mean
like I don't really know off the top of my head,
just a silence. But man, I was so embarrassed. I
was like, I gotta leave. This is a prank.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, like what the fun? What are you doing?

Speaker 6 (34:35):
How old are you when this happened?

Speaker 1 (34:36):
This is like three years ago? Middle school? It was
so bad. Dude, you go from the armpits, where'd you go?
Side crazy?

Speaker 6 (34:50):
You gotta go for the side to discomfort of people
being scared of the little hips, right, get a little
movement in them. The tickle turkey man the fun. You
should bring him to the Compton household, all right, ruising
for some.

Speaker 7 (35:06):
Damn ye'll think he can make me dress up his fear.

Speaker 6 (35:11):
Yeah, I'll tell you. He was in a bad position
in our office. Is Derek his back to that hallway,
like that ticket turkey is getting his ass.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
He's got to wear a turkey.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
When we were when I first started working here, Clump
wanted me to have that desk spot and for that reason,
like you were walking to a restaurant the old like
I have to have my back to the wall so
I can see everything. Yeah, that's how I felt about that.
I was like people walking down the hall and I
can't see him.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
That would freak me out.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
To this day if I go, if I'm at a restaurant,
I always prefer to have my back to the wall.
Like what am I going to do? Like some sort
of Seal Team six guy, Like I'm gonna protect everybody
in here. I'm just gonna getting got You know, you're
back to the rest of the Crowd's terrifying. Yeah, I
don't know how Derek gets any work done in the shop.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, and he's he's yeah, yeah, I never know what's
going on. Are your Christmas decorations up yet?

Speaker 6 (36:02):
You know they are the force?

Speaker 1 (36:04):
I not.

Speaker 6 (36:05):
Christmas decorations are like the end, like Spootobra is already
down in my household, like all the decorations, Like we
had a crew of people come in November one. I'm
laying there on the couch, leg up, dude, just everybody,
ten fifteen guys just carrying shit. I'm looking at him like, please,
just don't even fucking make eye contact me in this
vulnerable state. But all this stuff is that lights are

(36:25):
up now. And I know, bro, I know this is
like a disgusting look to you guys, but I've just
lost that battle of my household. I don't I don't
wear the pants like Thanksgiving has already happened in Canada.
Talent's beating me down, like have it, take it. But yeah,
it's a winter wonderland. You want to drive past my house,
It's absolutely beautiful.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
The upside of it, like if I had an optimistic
outside of like disgust that your Christmas decorations are already up,
it's just that you have the theme, like you have
the vibe that you just yearned for when Christmas time
dos come? Or is it that it's skin dark early
you got you know, lights are on living room. Just
the ambiance of Christmas is just so pure and good.

Speaker 6 (37:04):
It definitely has a good because like the front side
of our house is all like white lights and then
the backs of our house is more colorful nineties vibe,
and outside of my master bedroom, like there's like a
bunch of little trees that are all like in colored lights,
And it does give you that regardless of it being
November third, when it's like you look at it and
you're like, yeah, it does give you that cozy feeling.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah, Like if if like if I'm you and I
was battling and you're like trying to come to a
middle ground, it's we can do the interior of the house,
but the Christmas lights on the outside don't go up
until after Thanksgiving type of vibe. Because again it's like
you at least you're in the vibe of a feeling nice,
all warm and cozy with some lights and some decorations around.
To be fair to the public, like just an asen nine.

Speaker 6 (37:45):
Yeah, but to be fair to tailing having that feeling,
like what other feeling you need to get between November
one and and Thanksgiving, Like it's kind of like a
dead spot because Thanksgiving is very much like a long
weekend type of vibe as opposed to like a cell
lebrate holiday throughout it like a whole month period, So
there is a level of like kind of cheating the
vibe a little bit for an extra long time because

(38:07):
it's not Christmas. Vibe is not one that kind of
dies off as you get farther and farther down. It
like you're kind of enjoying it more and more and
more as you kind of get up to Christmas. So
it's kind of nice. I've I've I've been to the
knee and I've kind of like it can't beat them,
joined them type of vibes. Yeah, yeah, don't know, don't
you do that?

Speaker 1 (38:25):
You can't beat the Canadians, join them? That's what you
kind of.

Speaker 6 (38:28):
You saw what happened this past weekend at the Canadians Dodgers.
Dodgers beat the the Boo Jays, and I Quinn was
texting me like, hey, we own hockey, you're about to
own baseball as well. It's a totally different game like MLB.
You have a couple of Canadian teams all good, but
that was nice for the Dodgers to take that one.
So I have that over my wife's family. It's become

(38:50):
a complete rivalry ever since the Four Nations tournament. Yeah,
where it's like they kind of they've been talking crazy
to me ever since that Four Nations game, and it's
it's nice to have one we go. I don't only
view this as one, but they kind of do. So
it's like, yeah, we got you guys.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
See that is a fun that's a fun fam Like
for me, it's like I just got to wait and
see if pack y'all fights again. Yeah, it's not a
whole lot, but there is this tennis there's this tennis player. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
there is this tennis player.

Speaker 6 (39:20):
Yeah we need uh but have you did you guys
watch that game? Game seven? Incredible? Like I was, I
had zero players to even watch that game. And then Nathan,
you know, he's a big baseball guy. I grew up
in l A. He's a Dodgers fan. But he's he's
the worst type of fan with the game with him
last year, it was his idea to leave. He's the

(39:40):
worst type of things.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Taylor was beating him up on the plane because he
flew back with us from New York when we came
from ESPN, because I was kind of asking him for
for whatever reason, I thought he was like a Michigan
State fan or we're talking for I don't watch any fun.
He's like I am all baseball. So he was fired
up for the World Series, but then Taylor was beating
him up. He's like, you got me killed for leaving
that world here his game last.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
Year, because to me, it was like I checked the
box of being there. But I've never been, like since
I've been twelve years, I've never been like a base
I'm gonna watch baseball, but like going to a first
World Series game, this is awesome and it's so fitting
that Nathan's like, you're tired, right. I'm like I'm good.
He's like, you're pretty tired. We should go. It's like
all right, let's yeah, I'll go. And as soon as
we leave, like fireworks take off in the entire game.
That's when Freddie Freeman had to walk off Grand Slam.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
So we get to this year, Dodgers are back in it.
That is Nathan Worksman's team, like he grew up going
to Dodgers games to have a whole They go to
this one spot that all Dodgers fans go to. They
get these like Philly cheese take type of sandwiches. I
did the whole experience. He's looking at me saying, I
hope Toronto wins I'm like, Bro, you grew up a
Dodgers fan. What are you talking about. He's like, well,
my team already won. It wouldn't be as fun for

(40:43):
us to get another One'm like, no, like you want
your team to win another one because how cool wuld
be that three? Pet Like, that's what it's about. It's
like you just want you just want to win them all.
And he was anti that anti and bro so he
was rooting for the Blue Jays. He's yeah, he's the
weirdest fan ever. And we we were watching the game
and it's the bottom of the ninth whatever, the Dodgers

(41:06):
score run to take it into extra innings. I kept
calling it over time. He was laughing at me about that.
He gets up, He's like, I had early flight tomorrow.
I'm gonna I'm gonna leave. I'm like, game seven, you're
a baseball fan, You're a team who you're rooting against.
Just caused the game to go into extra innings and
you're gonna go to bed. And he's like yes, he

(41:27):
left and bote that that game was incredible? Was it Yamamoto?

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Who's the guy Yoshiniba Yamamoto?

Speaker 6 (41:37):
Okay, that guy, dude, game six. This Yoshinido Mama Modo guy,
pitches ninety two pitches and plays an incredible game. They're
in Game seven and it's starting to get in this
like are they are the are the Toronto Blue Jay
is gonna run away with it? Or the Dodgers is
gonna come back? They get Yama Moto, who's just thrown

(41:57):
ninety two pitches the day prior, to come back in
and finish the game and pitches three innings and it
was incredible. Bro guys like five to eleven throwing like
after doing all those pitches, still throwing like ninety seven
ninety eight, like just watching the intricacies of like he's
down in the pitch count. Then he's getting guys to
chase wide, he's jamming guys in. It's like one of

(42:20):
the most fun games ever. And then this Rojas was
a Miguel Rojas in the ninth of the Yeah, the
ninth inning, top of the ninth, top of the ninth inning.
They're down one, no one's on base, Miguel Ross has
not had a hit, and all of the World Series
hits a home run and they're now tied up. Yamamoto
comes in three up, three down, gets him off. We're

(42:42):
now an extra innings, and then I think Yamamoto had
all had the Blue Jays had three guys on base
correct every first, second, and third, and they go broken
back because it comes off and goes back on. And
then Mookie Bets from shortstop hits it, gets a ground ball,

(43:04):
steps on second, wins the game by having a double play.
Like it was like probably the only time as I've
been like twelve years old, I'm watching a baseball game
like this, shit is unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
It was a sick game. But the Dodgers winning is
awful for baseball because.

Speaker 5 (43:18):
Why is that because the super rich franchise.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, the biggest thing that's been going the highest paid. Yeah,
so show hey, like show Hay's contract alone is like
more than the entire Pittsburgh Pirates like payroll. Like, so
it's these teams, like the Dodgers can just afford to
pay all of this money to all of these players,
but it's like not even fair, Like the Pirates will

(43:42):
never win a World Series. All of these lower tier
teams will never win a World Series because they can't
afford all of these players. Like that's why you see
all of these really really good guys going to the Yankees,
going to the Dodgers, going to the Mets because they
can afford to like pay them and like get give
them all this money.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
There's no cap, right, there's.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
No cap, So that's what But like it's bad for
baseball in the sense of like this just continues to happen,
but it's good for baseball in the sense of, Okay,
this is proven, like that we may need a salary cap,
but it's insane because Bryce Harper or like earlier in
the season there was I saw that, Yeah, there was
a meeting about, hey, we're gonna have a salary cap,

(44:20):
and Bryce Harper went up and it was like, if
you're here to talk about a salary cap, get the
fuck out of here, because we do not we do
not want that. But it's like insane because it's just
imagine like the the biggest market teams in the NFL
always win, and like the Titans, they're the smallest media market,
have no chance to win whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Is there for any baseball guys, Chef, you seem like
you're itching again in this conversation, Uh, for the baseball guys,
Is there a leverage play for the league to make
it a salary cap because it's it just sounds like
they just don't have They wouldn't have the leverage if.

Speaker 6 (44:52):
You're if you're a player, you don't want a salary
if you're yeah, if you're If.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
We're speaking for like, if this is going down in
the NFL, you'd want the biggest ours to be saying
the same thing, Bryce Harper.

Speaker 6 (45:02):
Yeah, you want this conversation taking place in the NFL
where it was Kirk Cousins getting a guaranteed contract.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Right, you want your superstar guys like throwing their weight
around to get basically no salary cap. You just get
paid as much as you possibly can.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
Yeah, So it's gonna look it's looking like that the
MLB and the Players Association could possibly go into lockout
and then it becomes basically the MLB will have a
lot of more leverage going. Hey, the Dodgers are.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Is that the man? Right there? A great guy to
come in on the conversation, what's up?

Speaker 6 (45:37):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Felas Before we get into Tony Vtello, we gotta finish
off the episode. There is a new Buffalo ranch, Shaws,
that has arrived at McDonald's McDonald's is now a sponsor
a bustle with the Boys Boys massive brand. And and
what was that? Did we hear a little? Did somebody too?
That must have been yeah, the Mickey D's. There's a

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new buffalo ran sauce that has arrived at McDonald's and
it pairs perfectly with your snack wrap of mccrispy sandwich
or those new mccrispy strips. I will let sure them
speak to that in a second. It's got the tangy
zang of buffalo with the creamy cool of mild ranch.
It's mild and wild at the same time. It's a
sauce that balances itself and compliments our crispy chicken. Uh Fellas, Look,

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the snack wrap jumps out at me. The McChicken or
the mccrispy chicken sandwich jumps out at me. Bangs in
this buffalo, the zesty, zangy, tangy buffalo sauce. Yeah, mild
and wild.

Speaker 6 (46:35):
I'll tell you what I used to love to do
as a kid, and I still continue to love to
do now, is going to that little the regular cheeseburgers,
the two for nine to nine cents deal that it
used to be like the two cheeseburgers. I would get
max sauce on those things. This new little sauce we
got talking about it, I think I'm gonna find myself
in a drive through real soon getting those two cheeseburgers.
But go and put that zesty buffalo ranch on there.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah, sure, you were just talking about the chicken strips
of McDonald's. I have yet to have the chicken strips.

Speaker 8 (46:59):
I'm a big chicken Nuggies guys. I've always want to
make chicken nuggies, right, that's the staple. But these new
mac crispies they are really really good. I usually dip
them in honey mustard. I have yet to try this
new sauce. I know what I'm having for lunch.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Two day big sauce guys. Two day, big sauce guys
on the bus and a photo too. Yeah and there,
shirm dog. There's a new sauce in town at McDonald's,
the tangy, creamy buffalo ranch. Order now. And there is
this final bite segment that we're gonna dive into of
which something that we want people to be thinking about

(47:36):
as they're dipping their sauce and eating whatever little combination
they're gonna have with this buffalo tangy tangy, creamy buffalo rance.
Oh maybe a final take, maybe a take a thought,
something we want people to be thinking about going into
this football weekend.

Speaker 6 (47:52):
I like that. Do you mind if I go first?

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Go ahead?

Speaker 6 (47:55):
Something off the top of my head right now that
we kind of talked about in the reaction show, I'm
gonna bring it over to the bus and intro of
the show is, let's talk about the NFC East for
a second. It's done. It's over. We might be in November,
but as far as I'm concerned, the Philadelphia Eagles are taking
that thing they run with it, it's over for the
rest of that whole entire division because they're just falling back,
back and back. So if we want to look at

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playoff implications, I'm already good to go in. Not just
Pencil'm gonna pen in the Philadelphia Eagles in two. So
theF is you.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Want Dallas fans at tune in, Washington fans at tune in,
and Giants fans at tune in to be sad dipping
their mccrispy streets in this Buffalo tanky sauce right thinking
that this season is over for us.

Speaker 6 (48:36):
I know what the old Golden Arches has provided to
this beautiful country for many, many years. And if you
can hear one thing, it's broken hearts and the broken
hearts of the Commanders, the Cowboys, and the Giants. Listen, Giants,
I think you've got nothing to be upset about. Like
you lost cam Skataboo, but Jackson Dart quarterback of the future,
day ball saved his job. Cowboys. Yeah, I can see

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you guys getting sad because you have a per Bowl
caliber offense, but your defense is poop poo magoo. Now
you look over at the Washington Commanders and you just
dislocated your best court of your quarterback's elbow when you're
down thirty eight to seven. Those who have a lot
to be sad about. The Giants, you can go over,
hit that drive through, get that zesty Buffalo ranch, and
you're gonna feel all right about having the McChicken strips
whatre they called mccrispy strips.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
And the Eagles too.

Speaker 6 (49:21):
Grease the Poles, grease me up, send me to mcde's.
You know what I'm saying. Get you some of the
get you a little happy meal. You know what I'm saying.
I like it. I having fun with it. And you
know I was I was dating the Cowboys for a men.
I was in love with the Cowboys for a hot second.
But that flame burned bright. Now I'm kind of thinking
to myself, boys, it's time to back up. We got
other toxic relationship and just realize the Eagles are gonna

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keep flying.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
This new buffalo ranch that people are going to be
dipping into this week. I want Husker fans to think
about this. TJ. Latif Latif over three hundred all purpose,
over three hundred yards through the air, combined through the
air and on the ground the.

Speaker 6 (50:01):
Air combined through the air.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Yeah, TJ. Latiff going out to U c L a
night game gonna be tough getting up after this emotional
loss to the USC Trojans. As you were in sad
Boys season thinking about what's t J. Latif gonna do
this weekend. I'm telling you right now it's over three
hundred yards.

Speaker 6 (50:20):
It's so funny you say that, because do you know
what Latif is French for buffalo sauce, zesty buffalo ranch.
That is actually what it's French for yeah, I think
google that real quick, make sure, but I'm I I
took French in high school.

Speaker 8 (50:36):
Yeah it's yeah, Buffalo rancho, creamy.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Buffalo ranch, Lati latif and when he does, ninety three
is alive and well, honey, nine and three has never died.
No fibula is gonna stop nine and three and nebrassic
corn Hoskers.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
That's mine. Do you have, gentlemen, do you have any
back there? To find a bite going into the weekend.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
As you're dipping into that creamy buffalo ranch sauce, just
think to yourself, real quick, could forty year old Joe
Flacco win the MVP VP? Just think about it as
you're tasting that sauce eating them at Crispy's. Could he think?
Could he win it? Something to think about being the conversation.

Speaker 6 (51:19):
Being the conversation, Have a conversation, Ignore everything else that's
happening in the NFL world, then just focus on Flacco.
Joe cool seven last two games, Joe Flacco.

Speaker 8 (51:30):
Mine is separate of football? Is that against the rules?

Speaker 6 (51:32):
It feels like it is, but go ahead.

Speaker 8 (51:34):
Insulated denim jackets are back. That's what the people are saying.
Really and and just as you're dipping, does somebody might.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Have insulated what are they insulated?

Speaker 8 (51:43):
What denim jacket?

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Insulated denim jacket on right now? Dipping?

Speaker 8 (51:47):
Oh? Come on, and just think about it as you're dipping,
like there's we're not wearing enough denim right now. Denim's
like I think it's back.

Speaker 6 (51:58):
I don't have any denim on right now. That's how
kind of naked I feel after you talking about that.
If there's an individual out there that is listening to this,
thinking I'm dipping in denhim right now, please tag us
in a photo. Tag us in a photos. We love
to see you dipping in denim. Yeah, you know what,
that's my favorite take. That is my favorite take. And

(52:18):
I think we need as Bustle with the Boys Mighty
to go to a mcdizzels set the tone for a
dipping in denim hashtag dipping in denim. See what we
can do?

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Will you? Or just go you just we get a
photo together and we just drop at no caption and
the Tier one sikos No. They let the world know
that we're doing what denim denim and dipping.

Speaker 6 (52:38):
Enough time, setting enough times we need to remember, I'll
do dipping and denim.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
By the way, this new buffalo sauce available for a
limited time at participating McDonald's while supplies.

Speaker 6 (52:49):
Are you serious?

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yeah yeah, I think it's going to be a hit.

Speaker 6 (52:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Well, this is a sauce country.

Speaker 6 (52:54):
Think of all the things that mcdizzel's has done back
in the day that has been hit over hit like
nostal But the McRib the mcflurry.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
The smell of hot breakfast, oh, pancakes.

Speaker 6 (53:07):
You open that thing up, dude, It's like, what this
is a fast food place.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (53:11):
It's fine dining out here, man, It's incredible syrup sauce.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Let me mcgriddles talk to you about mcgriddell.

Speaker 6 (53:23):
Lemon know, but the mcgriddle.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
I would have this, uh. It was basically a plus
hour in high school as a senior to where a
plus you could if you were gifted this luxury you
could go off campus and go to. For me, it
was middle school. I would go in shadow my eighth
grade football coach and his like health p class. I
don't even know because I never went to it. He

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would just give me the sign, he give me what
I needed, and me and a couple of my boys,
we'd rip over to McDonald's and it'd be like be
our breakfast every morning. Second hour we'd pull in and
we talk about this cashier behind the register as he's
like rivals recruit, like he's like a five star. He
understood the game and the operation of McDonald's. We thought

(54:06):
he should own one one day because of how much
work this guy put in. But we get the uh,
the little breakfast burritos, the little.

Speaker 6 (54:12):
Two for five, little chunks of sausage in there.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
We'd get the meal with the mcgriddle and I would
unpack that thing like there's a like I was in
the dark and the candle was next to my nightstand
and I would be unpacking this mcgriddle. I pick it up.
We'd have this four play we'd do with it. I'd
smell it. I just I'd take the entire environment in
before I took a bout of the mcgriddle and taking
them buy that mcgriddle. I don't know if you can

(54:35):
hear my boys right now, but my mother's watering.

Speaker 6 (54:38):
And Fawcet talking to a Fawcet right now.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
We would throw roast sparks in and just enjoy a
good No. I was a junior senior in high school.

Speaker 6 (54:49):
Okay, okay, I thought you said something about middle school earlier.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
That was my football coach, and we'd enjoy every day.
Second hour, it'd be where are we going? We know
we're going. That's a stupid questions throw up? What is it?
Stone sour? Looking at you through the glass. I'm looking
at you through the glass. I don't know how much
time has passed. Oh god, it feels like forever. No

(55:18):
one never tells you that forever feels like home. Sitting
alone inside you're how do you feel? How do you
do so much? The question?

Speaker 6 (55:32):
Yeah, did I know that one?

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Actually?

Speaker 6 (55:35):
Do you know that one? I just don't know that one.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Throw that tune on or to be hindered. Touched like
an angel, Touch like an angel, kiss like an angel,
lips of an angel.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
Hey you, why are you calling me so late?

Speaker 1 (55:50):
It's kind of hard to talk right now. Those would
be the bangers. You guys just took me back to
a moment.

Speaker 6 (55:57):
Girls in sometimes I wish you was you. Yes, man,
never really moved on.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
That was good. That was really good.

Speaker 6 (56:13):
You want to hear saying my name is sounds so sweet?

Speaker 1 (56:19):
People tuned in, they're like, God, we can't wait to
listen to Tony Vtello.

Speaker 6 (56:23):
Yeah, but then I know they start dipping in down them.
That's what they didn't know about, dude. Can I just
give you I know, we'll just told a cute little story.
Can I just give you mine real quick? Young three
four year old one, all right, just freshly into Scottsdale, Arizona.
My father he worked late hours, He worked, he worked
early mornings as well. But every Saturday, your young till
of one would get up at the crack ass of
dawn around five thirty six am, and right around the

(56:45):
corner from our house was what i'm mcdiesels. And my
dad would take me across the one on one Papa
sitting at mcdizzels. Give me a couple of them pancakes,
couple of them breakfast briers. I don't evenlieve the mgriddle
wasn't even a thing at this time, all right, we're
talking about nineties babies. And I would sit there and
my dad would read the morning newspaper with a McDonald's
orange juice while I ripped apart that ballpet alone. Because

(57:08):
ain't no kid got the luxury I did on a
Saturday Morning that my father gave to me when I
was just a young buck man. So shout out mcdee's
keeping Families Together since ninety three.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Keeping families together since ninety three. Before we do get
into the episode, we are doing this collaboration with Folds
of Honor. Do you mind bringing up? So we have
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(57:42):
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Speaker 6 (58:11):
Don't forget about their shirt as well. The shirt is
out there fold of on our shirt. Yeah, I got
the red, white and blue on there too. But yeah, man,
aving and do to help our vets, our people that
are affected on a daily basis, keeping our freedoms free.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Man.

Speaker 6 (58:23):
This is a beautiful time.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Yes, and you'll see it at the top of this
interview with Coach Bytello. We also the licensing deal that
we got to do with Tennessee is now going through,
so these hats for Tennessee Valls fans will be up
in our shop as well at bwtv dot com. We
gifted coach Bytello the first ever won.

Speaker 6 (58:42):
The first ever one. We should have signed it for him.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Yeah, we should have as his gift to go to
San Francisco. We will love him forever, we will miss
him forever. This was an incredible interview. I think you're
gonna love the conversation. We were very ripe in the
in the baseball industry, right, and a lot of questions.

Speaker 6 (58:57):
Yeah, yeah, just remember this boys you go into this episode.
The Giants are gonna be contenders this year, San Francisco Giants.
The Eagles are going to win the NFC East, and
by god, we're dipping in denim. That's what we're doing
out here. Let's get into this episode. Subscribe please for
the love of God and rape five.

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Speaker 6 (59:52):
We were just talking baseball, Yeah, just talking about the Dodgers.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
Wild Game seven, Wild World Series.

Speaker 6 (59:57):
Yeah, and then we're oh, yeah, toss that over here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
So let's start with the first.

Speaker 6 (01:00:02):
Let's start with a gift. So let's start with a gift.
I know you just left, but this just got I
think we just we need just got.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
A licensing deal with the University of Tennessee to like
make these hats, and we want to give you give you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
The first one. I still want to represent. Got a
lot of blood, sweat and tears with that recruiting class.
That's uh, that's there now and I guess coming in too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
God, So on this conversation, what were you going to ask.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
What was the consensus on those?

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Okay, so I'm not a massive like baseball guy, like
I'll watch the Cardinals if they go to the playoffs
and stuff and get fired up with everybody else. But
they're sitting there breaking down the World Series game. I
caught until they went the extra innings and then that's
when I went home because Nebraska just lost the USC
So I need to go home and go to bed
because I was miserable. But Mitch is saying, like l
A winning is bad for baseball because of how much

(01:00:50):
money that they have to afford the team.

Speaker 6 (01:00:54):
I mean, I think it's great to have you put
that mic a little closer. Sorry, you just get thrown
in the fire right there.

Speaker 5 (01:00:59):
And right I got gifts. Anything I say about the
Dodgers is certainly going to be of interest in San Francisco.
But no, this is a pretty bad ass setup. I
appreciate you all having me. And I think, you know,
whether it was the Yankees back in the day with
baseball or it's achieved some football, I think it's good

(01:01:21):
for sports in general and the sport that's in specific
to have kind of a target or a standard that's set.
And it's college now, too, like it or not. Money talks,
and it's going to be a big part of it.
But you can't just buy your way to a championship.
There's still got to be the right people in place,
and then eventually to those people gotta, you know, make
the place. And I'm sure you guys were diagnosing that game.

(01:01:44):
There were a million different plays that could have went
one way or the other. And uh and then you
get stories too of people rising up one one pitch
it could have went the other way. And now you
got the Blue Jays is you know, the Brewers were
kind of trying to do this, the little engine that could.
And obviously those those teams got stud players too. But
it's fun to cheer for the underdog, and then it's
also it's good to have that you know, enemy number

(01:02:07):
one or you know Americans, Uh, I think are hard
workers overall, but it's a lot easier to it's a
little lazy and a lot easier to cheer for who
the best is. Yeah, you know, so there's always going
to be people that pick a side. I think, you
know it. I'm not I'm not at Tennessee anymore, so
I don't say it arrogantly, but our twenty two baseball

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team was one that a lot of people just picked
a side. They either hated them or they liked them.
And I think overall it was good for college baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Because you're getting to join up with who is the
psycho that has other celebrations.

Speaker 6 (01:02:40):
Drew Gilbert, who, Yeah, psycho loves being choked from the.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
That could be diagnosed a lot of different ways.

Speaker 6 (01:02:49):
Yeah, there's gonna be a therapist in the back end
of that career at some point. Humping the slapping the side.
Some dudes are just walking up to him joking. He's
just love it, like this is the type of cat
you want around.

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
Yeah, no doubt. It'll be a good bridge for me.
Obviously I'll be learning a lot on the fly, But
to have someone like that in your clubhouse, no matter
where you're at you constantly have energy, and our sport
has a bigger sample size than any other, so it's
very repetitive. And if it's boring or there's lack of personality,
it's not going to be fun to come to work

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come August or later in the season.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Is that something too, Like when you were with Tennessee,
it's like you guys did have kind of this bad
boy image. But just allowing your players to like be themselves,
to kind of keep that energy during all those monotonous, repetitive.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
Days, I think so. I mean, I think, now you've.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Got one hundred and sixty two games, you gotta do it.

Speaker 5 (01:03:40):
Yeah, it'll be different, that's for sure. And during the
press conference, the first question out of the shoot was
reminding me that I not only not in the big
leagues as a player, wasn't even close, but haven't been
in pro ball. So I don't know what I don't know,
But yeah, every day for us in the fall and
in the spring in college was a new day, and
you try and some are better or more entertaining than others,

(01:04:02):
but it's a blank slate and you try and make
it something fun and something memorable, and you know there's
nothing more fun and memorable than winning.

Speaker 6 (01:04:09):
Yeah, how did the conversation? How did this job even happen?

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:04:12):
Because you're this is the first head coach of a
college football team, a college football college baseball team to
become a manager at MLB team?

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Is that?

Speaker 6 (01:04:19):
Am I crrect in saying that?

Speaker 5 (01:04:19):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:04:20):
And so how did this conversation start? Your agent call?
You say, hey, by the way, the Giants are looking
at you, like, explain to me the process.

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
Yeah, it was a little bit. It was organic, and
if you really reflect on it was kind of drawn
out because the conversations have always gone on with college
coaches and big league teams, especially in the summer. And
you know, I remember taking a call on our guy,
Gavin Keelan. He was a second basement shortstop for us.
The Giants took him first overall, one of our best
players this last year. So there was a lot of

(01:04:49):
conversations not just about him, but like, what's going on
with our program? How do you guys like to do things?
Just idea sharing? And then with Drew Gilbert also came
over Blake Tidwell, one of our pitchers. They were both
involved in that trade. So, hey, what can you tell
us about these guys, and so with those conversations, a
little bit of a co op started there. And then

(01:05:12):
you know, I don't know who gets full credit. I mean,
Zach the jam buster is obviously you know, in charge
as well. Somewhere along the line, someone floated the idea
of basically trying something new, and San Francisco is about
as innovative. I mean there's AI stuff everywhere, buildings and
corporations and so just an innovative idea, and I feel

(01:05:35):
blessed to be the guy, but I'm also the guinea pig.
We'll see how it goes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
I'm sure it's gonna be hard to just hammer your ego,
but what do you think it was for San Francisco?
And the things that you're doing are the things that
they were hearing that dove deeper into getting you to
San Francisco.

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
I think, And it's easy to be humble because I
think it was more the concept. And so I was
a guy who maybe fit that profile. So we're going
through that now with trying to hire a coaching staff.
Is what's the profile we want and then pick out
of a group of guys that maybe fits that profile.
And it was it was something new. Pat Murphy has
been looked at. I think, I mean, I don't get

(01:06:15):
on social media a lot, but Pat Murphy is a
former college coach at Notre Dame at Arizona State, and
now he leads the Brewers to, if I'm not mistaken,
the best record in MLB baseball this year, and he's
kind of got that more. I don't want to say
it's not really about college versus pro ball, but just
a little more of the old school coach mentality when

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coaching his team. You know, when we grew up, like
you knew Bobby Bobby Cox, and I could get Whitey
Herzog where I grew up in Saint Louis, Like he
was a manager that everybody knew and there was a
certain approach to it where his teams all kind of
have the same culture. And I think baseball swinging back
a little bit towards that coach deal as opposed to
the analytic guy in the office.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
This, Yeah, is it like that old school? Is it
like old school too? Kind of mix with the younger,
like a younger swag, you know what I mean, Like
I would say, you're like a young You're like a
young Thundercat kind of coming up into this situation.

Speaker 5 (01:07:13):
I think energy. I think when you're around guys like
Drew and then our fan base, like a lot of
times are the fans at Tennessee are about as good
as it gets, and so when they come up with
an idea, whether it was yours or not, you're kind
of if you're wearing orange, you're involved in it. So
I think people think I got a lot more swagger
or confidence than I truly do. I mean, if I
was more confident, I would have been a better fricking player,

(01:07:35):
but I was, But I'm I'm fortunate to be in
the dugout with guys like that, and so I don't
know that it's more swagger. I think naturally what I
do have is energy. Like at the field, it just is,
it's a vibe, it's fun to be there, and uh
so I think it's more of an energy thing. And again,
winning will bring about swagger more than anything, so hopefully

(01:07:55):
that's the case. There's there's some good players on the roster,
but I think energy is a part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Yeah, just a Missouri boy doing it, big man doing it.

Speaker 6 (01:08:05):
How much time have you spent in San Francisco.

Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
So far, it was really three days with the press
conference and and again trying to hire some staff and
things like that. But when I was younger, I played
college ball in a summer league out in Salinas, California.
Small town, great people, just south of San Jose. And
a guy that played for my dad, Bill Miller. If
you've watched uh the specials on the Red Sox coming

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back from three to zero against the Yankees, he's actually
the guy that gets a hit off Mariano Rivera to
start that the first comeback game and then ultimately they win.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:08:38):
Bill was with the Giants, so we'd go watch and play,
get free tickets, and you're in what I thought was
the coolest park I'd ever been in, and you get
to explore the city. And fortunately Twitter didn't exist then
and I didn't have a job, so it's a little bit,
a little bit more free. Reign that's a little bit
more free. Yeah, it's a pretty cool area.

Speaker 6 (01:08:55):
So now what's process for you? You are you selling?
Are you keeping a place here in Nashville?

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
Definitely in Nashville, for sure. This place is phenomenal, whether
it's you know, just running into you guys, like at
the restaurant or the grocery store. I'm sure you get
bothered everywhere, so sorry if I bother you guys too,
but run into you guys. The connection with country music
some friends I've formed. You're in the middle of the country,
so both coasts are kind of accessible. This is just

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a phenomenal place. So yeah, definitely looking forward to sticking
to a place here and probably even the fans were
awesome to me at the football game Saturday, So as
long as that continues, I'd like to still be in
Knoxville a little bit. I mean, like I said, I
mean the other coaches had a lot to do with it,
but for the next three or four years, I'm going
to be pretty closely tied to some of those players.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Yeah. What are the biggest differences in being like the
head coach of a college baseball team and then being
a manager in the MLB.

Speaker 5 (01:09:47):
I think just that recruiting you can have a voice,
maybe with trades or free agency, and I think that's,
you know, something that pro players look at as what
park do I want to play in, what city I
want to live in, what coach So it's not like
recruiting completely goes away, but you're not in charge of
your roster anymore, which hell, free up some more time

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to go to UFC or you know, you know whatever
it might be. Maybe, but then to the amount of
sample size. And then the kids you work with in
college are so impressionable they'll latch onto about anything you'll
give them. And I haven't again what, I don't know,
what I don't know, but I assume a thirty five
year old that's in the big leagues for a while,

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he's he's pretty much got his system figured out, and
so it'll be a little bit different of a co
Oper relationship there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:10:36):
With when you got the news that you're going to
be the next Giants manager, I'm gonna have a hard
time not saying head coach. How do you tell the team,
the Tennessee team.

Speaker 5 (01:10:46):
Yeah, no, my my non friends or non baseball friends
are all like manager, Like, are you managing the title manager? Skipper?
You know, our pitching coach, Frank Anderson wud always call
me skipper, And it's kind of I don't know, I
kind of like that concept. So whatever it is, you're
serving that role of writing out the lineup, you know,

(01:11:08):
So it's interesting I get with recruiting, you have to
respond to every email and every text possible. But I
had to give up on my phone, so I apologize
to everybody. And one of the first texts was nice
but also sarcastic. I think from you. It was basically
like I miss you and love you or something I
don't mean to put words.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
I think I said i'll miss you. I sent you
when it was starting to be like, hey, they're closing
in on a deal. Yeah, I sent him the link
from Twitter and just put I'll miss you forever.

Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So sorry, it was a little aggressive,
But I bring that up just because how this thing
broke was very unconventional, and it's the day and age
we live in. We were not we were not even
at a point where I was going to make a decision,
and this news broke on a football Saturday in the
middle of one of our scrimmages that I was going

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to do this, and our assistants were like, you know,
I had kind of kept any of the conversations out
of the locker room because it can only be a distraction,
especially with recruiting, and now if it was going to
get to a point where this is something I really
got to decide on I was gonna involve everybody. Well
that all got skipped over by a tweet or what again.

(01:12:17):
I'm not on there, but I think, god, you know
Ken Rosenthal or somebody. And I've had a couple of
people apologize to me like, hey, I just got a
job to do. They get word that talks are at
least serious, and now all of a sudden, it's like
you're doing it. And so I got these texts on Saturday,
like I don't know if it's true or good luck,
and I'm like I don't even know how to respond.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
So that the initial reaction is you're you're probably pissed off.

Speaker 5 (01:12:40):
Yeah I was, so I was mine.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
I'm thinking like if if this, if this profile is
posting about it, it seems like this is gonna happen.
First manager, it's like congratulates like, hey, I'm gonna miss
you forever. But now that makes sense. On the no response,
you're probably like, who in the fuck is leaking this stuff?

Speaker 5 (01:12:58):
Well, I was trying to watch Alabama Tennessee and I'd
thought about going to the game with a donor after
our scrimmage, and when this popped, is like, well, I'm
not going anywhere, And I just sat and was watching
the game and it's on the ticker, and I even
kind of quit watching the game a little bit to
be honest with you, and I just for the night
kind of shut it down. And then the next day

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some things picked up. Ironically, it ended up being instead
of one conversation with the team and being like this
sucks and crying and everything, it was a three parter
and it gave those guys time to share their thoughts
on it a little bit with me, including our coaching staff,
And I mean, this is a tough setting to break

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down and cry, so I won't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
Here, but.

Speaker 5 (01:13:46):
All emotions are welcome here, like I will forever be
grateful the way those kids texted me, talked to me
in person, and then the way the coaches basically said
do what you gotta do, and that really opened up
the freedom to think about it selfishly, just like what
do I want to do as opposed to how is

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this going to impact other people?

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Yeah, so wait on tears.

Speaker 5 (01:14:14):
Trying to go Barbara Walters, it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Is very hard. I'm assuming being in your spot, even
as a player, Like if I'm a player on your team,
and I absolutely love you. It's like when coach Eckler
left Nebraska, he recruited me there yea, and whenever he
left to go be like a co defensive coordinator or
something in Indiana. And he's kind of telling the linebacker
room after practice around like the thirty yard line, like
we're all breaking down because you're like, fuck man, a

(01:14:36):
part of you comes to a place for a staff
or for a guy, and you're galvanizing around this this roster.
So I can only assume how hard that was on
trying to be like you don't feel like you have
the freedom to think selfishly. You have so many people involved,
some of them aren't tipped off. Now they're finding out
on the internet. How do I even approach this conversation
because I know there's gonna be broken hearts. It's broke.

(01:14:57):
I'm assuming you're broken heart of it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:58):
It's just it's tough, and you're sitting in a situation
where you haven't made the decision yet and it seems
like the decision has been made for you, yeah, publicly,
and now you have to go put out what you're
assuming is a bunch of fires and you're met with
like it seems like empathy and love.

Speaker 5 (01:15:10):
Yeah, no, it affected things greatly, and at the end
of the day, it was a difficult decision. And if
you know, props to any college coach out there. Coach
Eckler's a stud and back at Nebraska now. But when
you switch in college, you don't get to breathe for
a year minimum, just because of the nature of the turnover.
And now I'm in this weird stage where it's not
like we're hiring a staff. There's work to be done,

(01:15:32):
press conference, all that, but it's not that drinking from
a fire hose that you have, so in a bad way,
it's freed up a lot of time to just reflect
on those relationships and things like that. And it's it's tough,
but you know, staying in motion is a good thing.
You guys are doing what you're doing because you guys
are constantly kind of pushing the envelope. And shoot, Dana

(01:15:53):
White did what he did when no one else was
doing anything active. He got active and now he's reaping
the benefits of it. And I don't know that the
sport would be that popular if he didn't push the
envelope during COVID or during a time where people weren't
in motion. So hopefully, who knows how this thing will go,
But I think staying in motion is healthy and and
hopefully it'll benefit me. Again, kind of a selfish decision,

(01:16:16):
But Tennessee, Tennessee will be all right. There's some players
in that dugout the next few years, so future Giants. Yeah,
I'm all for that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
We got.

Speaker 5 (01:16:24):
That's gonna be a touchy sun.

Speaker 6 (01:16:25):
I bet that's gonna be hard for you too, because
are you now as a manager?

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Are you?

Speaker 6 (01:16:29):
You're not the GMS, You're not You're not pulling the
trigger on draft picks. Correct, correct, But it's such a
so you sit there and you're like, hey, this guy,
and you're you're the one evaluating the ball players as well. Yeah,
sure there's a level of bias you're gonna have.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Player I'm hitting them up, ye.

Speaker 5 (01:16:45):
Little higher, a little more money. But I think the
Giants organization has always been very well thought of and
kind of a family vibe. So far, it's been enormously
welcoming to ideas and into working together. So I think
all of us are going to have a voice when
it comes to stuff like that. But like the decision
you were talking about being skewed because of personal feelings

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or stuff that's out there. Probably got to be a
little careful about not loving on those guys too much
from my standpoint.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is.

Speaker 6 (01:17:13):
Was there ever a point when this news starts to
break where you're like, fuck it, I'm just gonna stay here.
Did you like, was there ever that much second guessing involved?

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:17:19):
When that first hit, it was like, you know, any
competitor kind of bows up when someone tells you one
thing that it's not true or you don't believe in it,
you blow up and want to do the other. And
so I got good advice from a guy who was
a mentor of mine, Sean mccanns's name, and he's like, dude,
just take a time out. You don't know where that
came from or why. And so it was good to

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kind of take that night to reset. And then, you know,
it's like these kids I talked to on the phone
with college decisions. I mean, when you're getting recruited by
SEC schools, you can't really choose wrong. I mean, you're
gonna think it if you're working at Tennessee and they
choose Mississippi State or you know, South Carolina or whatever.
But the only way to make a decision right is
just to move forward and make it the right one.

(01:18:01):
So no going back now.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
Was getting in the MLB always like a north star
for you?

Speaker 5 (01:18:07):
Never just because I didn't think it was possible. I mean,
I knew enough as a son of a coach that
I wasn't skilled enough, that wasn't going to happen as
a player. And then I always thought. One of the
reasons I went to Missouri and walked on University of
Missouri was I always thought, you pretty much and this
is true for the most part, you finish or you
coach where you finished playing like that level, and I

(01:18:29):
know there's exceptions. So I would took a big risk
and walked on at a Division I school because that's
what I wanted to do, But having never even been
in pro ball, I didn't think it was possible. And
then the last couple of years some conversations have started
where the interest was peaked, and you know, I'd hate
to finish coaching without at least trying it.

Speaker 6 (01:18:49):
And yeah, were there any other MLB teams you said
in the last couple of years that were interested?

Speaker 5 (01:18:53):
Nothing significant? You know, you mentioned agent. You know, Jimmy
Sexton's got his hands full now since is your agent. Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Let's back up.

Speaker 5 (01:19:06):
That stems more from a guy well that that stems
from more of a friendship and a tie. He went
to Tennessee, so that's kind of more and of course
baseball is not. It's become more his field. And really
he's impacted the game in a great way. He gets
a lot of credit for coaching salaries and where the

(01:19:27):
trend is going right now, so kudos to him. But
that's kind of how that relationship worked out. Obviously, he
started with Reggie White and he's been in football and man,
these guys, I can only imagine how much you guys
have discussed college football. This firing guys in the middle
of the season. I get it, but I get it.
But it happened at an SEC school baseball wise, and

(01:19:49):
I wasn't there, so I'm not talking ill about any decisions.
But you looked at a schedule this guy had in
front of him, It's like, this team is going to
win a lot of games, and if you get in
the postseason, anything can happen. But they get rid of
the guy in the middle of the year. And again
the schedule got a little more favorable. They had good players,
just you guys are athletes. The season has a lot
of ebbs and flows. And I've been on teams especially too.

(01:20:11):
Out of last three three years at Tennessee, we started
out really weak and we finished really strong. This past year,
we started out like a ball of fire and we
finished okay. But we were doing so well at the
beginning everyone thought we were just going to steamroll every Moody.
So a season is an entire body of work, and
I get it, it's a different sport. You guys know
what better than I do. But right now is wild.

(01:20:32):
And I mean Lane Kiffin can only take one job
out there.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Oh yes, or even stay. It is nuts. It's like
we were talking about it, what is it? Arkansas, Auburn,
l Florida, Florida.

Speaker 6 (01:20:50):
That's yeah, that's an insane and the.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Still more jobs a lot out there. I'm just saying, yeah,
what do you do?

Speaker 6 (01:21:03):
You know? Now he's just doing it. We shot a
reaction show a little bit agoing and we're really having
a good conversation about football and college and little all
the head coaching jobs. Then I started talking about Michigan
and how like I want to see the passing game develop.
He's like a lot of head coaching jobs open out there.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
I'm just like, you know, what do you do? Har Well?

Speaker 5 (01:21:23):
If anything you got Morgan Walling coming to the stadium,
was that July.

Speaker 6 (01:21:27):
Yeah, that'll be nice, that'll be nice to see Zach Bryant.
He did that set the record and now Morgan's like,
not on my watch, get that they done?

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:21:35):
Place gets rowdy.

Speaker 6 (01:21:36):
Huh, there's a lot of them there.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:21:39):
I think that's probably Michigan's biggest knock in a game.
The atmospheres is not very loud for how many people
are in the building. Yeah, but I think it's a
structural thing. It has to be. You can't have one
hundred and fifteen thou.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
Tenne straight up.

Speaker 6 (01:21:52):
It's like it is a way different sound Tennessee ls
U A and m We went to Nebraska even ninety
two thousand there. Yeah, it's very very loud. Then you
go to Michigan and kind of just bows out a
little bit. Sure we were talking about this before. If
you just take you get the suitets that they were
putting in when I first got there, If you just
kind of put those in next to the big screens
and then take out the wood and put in aluminum.

(01:22:14):
I think you've changed the game right there. A couple
of hundred mil.

Speaker 5 (01:22:17):
That's all you gotta, don't I don't know why they
went now sore shift for this information.

Speaker 6 (01:22:21):
This is zip Man. And then I got a lot
of good ideas.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
In Tennessee against Oklahoma.

Speaker 5 (01:22:27):
I don't know. That was rough, And even more rough
was trying to keep one eye on the TV of
watching Game seven and then watching the game as well.
But you know it's up there and Peyton and those
guys can break down football better than I can. But
it was just a real frustrating game. And you know,
people seem to be a little sour on our defense,

(01:22:47):
but I don't know. You win and lose as a
whole team. And you know, coach Hypel has always done
well with the offense and the quarterbacks, and the vibe
is always good over there, you know, in the building.
So it's the SEC and it's same for you guys too.
I mean, when it's that high level of competition, it
can go one way or the other. And unless you're
in the locker room, you don't know if there was
a vibe that swung it one way or the other, and.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
We were just talking about the chaos and people just
these emotional decisions on firing coaches mid year. It's like
after the Oklahoma game, even Hypel's names getting brought up
in Lane Kiffin coming back to Tennessee.

Speaker 5 (01:23:18):
It just got.

Speaker 6 (01:23:20):
Relax.

Speaker 5 (01:23:20):
Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure he's.

Speaker 6 (01:23:22):
Gonna make fifty million dollars a year, so he's got
a bitting war going crazy right now.

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
I'm sure he's been known to get back with an
X or two. But there's something to be said for consistency.
And when I was coming up at Missouri, I spent
more days on the bench that I did on the field, unfortunately,
but I knew I want to coach. I'll surveying. It's like,
what's consistent about some of these best programs, And a
lot of it was that word consistency. When a group
can stay together and build some synergy and keep things

(01:23:50):
going with you know, the recruits stay on board, and
relationships with the donors. I think there's a lot to
maybe because I'm defensive of coaches, but there's a lot
to be said for riding out some ORMs and giving
somebody some freedom, because if you're in our league or
one of the best leagues in the country, you're gonna
take blows. You're gonna dish out blows, but you're gonna
take some too.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
What's the consistency look like? Like this will be a
very broken question, but I'm very curious, Like you being
a player, and you be a guy, spend more time
on the bench unfortunately than playing. But as you're observing,
what is the consistency, like, what are the things that
in your mind you're trying to build a resume or
a portfolio for for you knowing you want to be
a coach. What are things you're seeing like when you
are in the locker room as a player that you're

(01:24:31):
observing It's like, I'm going to take some of these
things knowing that I've experienced it as a player into coaching.

Speaker 5 (01:24:37):
I think probably even on the sheet of what to
do is even on the sheet of what not to do,
and you know how to approach guys and what freedom
to give them reaction wise, you know, the freedom to
be who they are. You kind of mentioned that earlier.
That's all good, but it's got to be under the
framework of the team so it sounds real vague and
real easy to say, but balance is huge. And like

(01:24:59):
I said that balance eat of learning and watching probably
equal to what not to do is just as valuable,
and there's just as many lessons learned there as what
to do.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
You're probably learning it too in real time, Like a
coach might have a wrong message of trying to address
something and be like, I know my teammate or this player,
he's not taken it kind of the correct way. This
could be a way to get the messaging that the
coach wants across and you know, mixing it in with
kind of the player mentality. I've always been fascinated with
that because my thought if I wasn't podcasting is I was,
I would get into coaching. So I'm just not too curious.

(01:25:30):
It's not too I know, you never know. Man it
look listen, if rule can't get it done, you know,
really see.

Speaker 6 (01:25:34):
Me, give me five six more years with this man.
He can go do what he wants that I'm really
enjoying doing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Just needs me. It's like, give me a couple more games.

Speaker 6 (01:25:43):
That's a real thing too, That's a thing that could
happen in the next couple of years is maybe like
the linebackers don't do well in Nebraska and they will
call well, but hey, can you just coach the linebackers
for a couple of years. That conversation is real between
me and Will. We've had the conversations of like, if
you go, what's our game plan?

Speaker 5 (01:25:59):
I think it should be. I mean, I mean as
far as the thought of who to hire as a coach,
so many times you know that I've been a part
of interviews or coworkers and we're kind of doing this now.
We just talked to a guy. I was like, I'm
thinking about just quitting my job and starting a company
with this guy. Like it doesn't matter if it's working
at a pizza parlor or tech industry or coaching or
podcast like, this guy would be good. And I think,

(01:26:21):
you know, there's some similar traits for people that are
successful across the board. And like I said, fortunately or unfortunately,
I was sitting on the bench a lot, so I
didn't have any skills in but I got to watch
a lot of people that I think had the that
set of skills.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
Yeah, had a good correlation what or the nerves like
and stuff. As you're interviewing for this job in the MLB.

Speaker 5 (01:26:41):
You know, because you you this is a different like
first ever it is. Well, the other thing is you're
talking to Buster Posey, and that's that's a guy that
I had started coaching. But I looked at him, you know,
in college, and watched him in college almost as a fan,
and then to see what he did in Major League Baseball.
He's one of the biggest winners ever in pro sports.

(01:27:03):
And I know that was the concept of bringing him
on and making him a part of the front office now,
So to talk to him. I mentioned to Jimmy a
couple times, like, hey, you you got to let me
talk to some people other than Buster, because it's impossible
not to talk to him and see him for who
he is, you know what I mean, and just keep
it normal and regular. So that was a big part
of the process. But I guess when you're in a

(01:27:25):
good position, and I didn't. I didn't hand in a
resume or seek this out. It kind of presented itself
to me. So I felt rock solid. And what was
going on at Tennessee and you know, new stadium being
built there and the next couple of recruiting classes are
ranked real high for whatever that it's only worth so much.
But yeah, so I think that kind of changed the

(01:27:46):
tone of it too.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
Yeah, now that you're out of it, how is the
nil speak on the nil? How how has it been
changing the game in college athletics as particularly at a big,
small level.

Speaker 5 (01:27:57):
Yeah, it's a disaster. I'm in this weird again. We
all have thoughts that are probably you dream a little
bigger then I kind of have this weird fantasy or
vision of like, Okay, can college and MLB merge together
a little bit and help each other? And I wouldn't
be the main you know, I certainly shouldn't be the

(01:28:19):
patron of either, but I could connect the right people
and get this thing where it's a little more fluid.
But the one part MLB can't affect is just where
NCAA sports are in general, and it's just a mess.
And I would say the biggest I'm doing this off
the cuff. Hopefully no one wants to slash my tires.
But it's like you're driving in the fog and you
can't really see but about one hundred or two hundred

(01:28:42):
feet in front of you, and you know you're grasping
for what's real, what you can do what you can't do.
And again, I'm sure someone will throw out that I
did something wrong, or I didn't do this, or but overall,
it's very frustrating. We don't know the rules to the game,
and it's I hate to keep beating up the topic.
Of course, there's judges in UFC or boxing, but I

(01:29:02):
love those two sports because it's two guys locked in
one spot, or it could be gals and just who's better.
And that's what I like more about anything. I mean,
I almost wish too, like Oregon, you should only be
allowed to have a certain amount of uniform combinations, you
should only have certain square footage in a locker room,
like let's find out. That's the whole point of athletics

(01:29:23):
or competition is like let's find out who can do
it better. But when you really don't know what the
rules of the game are, or they're so lopsided in
favor of Tennessee over Middle Tennessee State, it's kind of
hard to have that nose to nose competition.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:29:36):
Yeah, it's definitely. It's the Wild West. There's gonna be
like a crazy documentary about all the nil it's taking place.
How does it work? For baseball players, Like, do baseball
players get full scholarships now? Because when we were in school,
it was like baseball was getting like eighty The most
you could get is like fifty percent. That's like, hey,
this is a really good baseball player like this percentage.
But now nil has come in, so you're paying these guys,

(01:29:58):
But do they have full scholarships? Like how does?

Speaker 5 (01:30:00):
Yeah, so to make it overly simple, so they're used to.
When I first started coaching, it was eleven point seven
pretty much for every major programs scholarships. So if I
sit down with you and your family and we love
on you all weekend official visit, you go down on
the field for the football game it had finished in
the office with a here's your scholarship offer, and you

(01:30:20):
try and do your best to make it seem as
big as it can be because it's not an average.
If you do the numbers, eleven point seven, you'd get
to about forty three percent, so not even half of
your cost would be covered. And it's like, we love you,
but to come here, you're gonna have to pay twenty
grand a year out of state kid, Let's say, yeah,
it's just awful dealing with that, and then the nil

(01:30:40):
is actually like this is in football, this is a mess,
but in baseball it's kind of helping, like, hey, you
got no cost, We'll just figure out a way to
combine everything. And then we go into the new territory
where the rumors became true and it's like I'm in
the portal. You want me my first phone call? They
said this number? What do you guys got? And some
of those conference like kids too, kids literally walked in

(01:31:01):
my office like what is it? And I was like,
nice to meet you, you know, you know, and so.

Speaker 6 (01:31:08):
Some of these things are getting so over the tow bat.
They're not even really introducing themselves. They're not there's no
small talk. It's like, what are you willing to offer
me to come player school?

Speaker 9 (01:31:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:31:14):
And again no offense to them or no foul on them.
I mean, it's what I keep saying, what you don't know?
You don't know. I mean, if their phone call there
get from University of whoever is right out of the shoot,
this is what we're offering you. Then that's kind of
what his expectations are. And now we're at this new
place where we can offer full scholarships at Tennessee. Not
every school did that, and I mean we're talking big

(01:31:37):
time program athletic departments did not boost their scholarships. So
you can offer full scholarships if you want as an
athletic department, but it's not available. And then you got
this rev share thing, which is real money, but some
don't get any. And then you got nil, which again
is hopefully getting sorted out, but we're still in a
very gray place with that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
Yeah, and are you even able to, like if they're
getting this offer outside from another universe, that's a great question.
I'm sure you can't eventually. But with it's like, you know,
a coach I was talking to you. Even with college football,
you're like, you're not even having real exit meetings to
talk about what the player can work on or develop.
They're kind of walking in and be like, Hey, this
is what I'm hearing from my agent. There's really no

(01:32:17):
conversation to be had unless I get X, Y and Z,
and it's kind of the bulk. It's that is the
exit meeting.

Speaker 6 (01:32:23):
Which is bad for the development of players. Yeah, in
the football world, at least, I don't have a work
in baseball. But yeah, if you're not you can't coach
a guy hard, he's not going to get better at
these small things. And you're going to see it in
the next couple of years where the level of play
on the field is going to get worse because the
techniques that is good, because the guys aren't getting coach
the way they should. They're just getting more and more
money because they're naturally talented.

Speaker 5 (01:32:42):
Yeah, I think it's kind of already started that way.
To backtrack a little bit, the one thing is what
and again, no foul play on an agent. If you're
an agent, why wouldn't you say, hey, my guy's been
offered already kind of between this number and this number,
and maybe you make it seem a little better than
it is how we supposed to know, and the recruiting
and the summer goes like that. I mean, it's a whirlwind.

(01:33:03):
So but I think development A word that I kept
coming up with is sequence. I think there's a sequence
that takes place in the development of an athlete, and
for some guys that comes quicker, some guys that come slower.
But there's definitely a sequence you have to respect, and
I think all respect for that has gone out the
window because coaches are you got to make a choice,
what's your approach? But all of us at some point

(01:33:23):
have tiptoed around something because of the threat of the
transfer portal or a guy being disgruntled, and then two
for a player, it's like, it's not going well. It's
not going as well as I thought it would, So
I'm out, And I thought the coolest thing, and I'm not.
I just I know I'm fortunate enough to know Peyton
because of the university. But when people talked about arch

(01:33:44):
Manning leaving Texas, one of my favorite individuals I've ever
met is Archie Manning. And if you know that family,
it's like that dude ain't going nowhere. He's going to
see that thing through and he's going to make it happen.
And I followed a little bit. It seems like it's
going decent last.

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
Couple of games.

Speaker 5 (01:34:02):
But I think because of the background of that family,
there's a respect for that sequence of development. And at
some point you're gonna get knocked down and you're gonna
have to overcome some challenges and if you wait till
too long in your career, you might not know how
to handle it.

Speaker 6 (01:34:16):
Yeah, it'd be very off brand. For arch Man to
be in the transfer portal, and you wanted to be
a massive shock to anybody if he was gonna go
somewhere else based off of the diversity that was having
up until these last couple of games. You talked about, Uh,
every coach at some point is kind of tiptoed around
some things. What are some examples of you tiptoeing around and.

Speaker 5 (01:34:33):
You're like, ah, I should thanks a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:34:36):
Maybe, well, hey we're out now, Wait, this is fair game,
say names.

Speaker 5 (01:34:41):
Well, I mean there's one that's pretty well documented. I
mean the thing is, sometimes you find out a guy
is leaving, and.

Speaker 6 (01:34:49):
You find out be a news or a text.

Speaker 5 (01:34:51):
Well, on the recruiting side, you get a phone call
and we had kind of blossomed and now all eyes
are on us, and I think we could have coached
a kid that was a superstar. But you get a
call and it's like, hey, this guy's got seven or
eight sec offers. What's your guys offer? And it's like, well,
and trust me, I'm no saint. But at the time

(01:35:12):
it's like, we got too many eyes on us, and
people are throwing out, you know, certain things. We didn't
move on it at all. But it's so weird because
it's like I just watched this guy on TV. He's
playing for a different school and yet shopping these other ones.
So there's so many different situations in recruiting that pop up.
And that's one. And then with coaching, I had to
coach a kid that was really talented that we knew

(01:35:35):
he was out the door. We knew the minute we
made kind of a change in role that he was
going to be out the door, And we had a
short conversation in the locker room, like what do we
want to do? And finally I just I mean, we
made a lot of group decisions in this particular case.
I was just like, this is what we're doing, but
he's going to leave. And then knowing that you still

(01:35:55):
have season left, it's kind of like you know, the
firing coaches in the mills. He's in college football. Sometimes
it's a different way you get there, but you might
still be able to have a successful season if you
can just kind of keep things on board. So that
that was a tough. That was tough one to deal
with these.

Speaker 6 (01:36:12):
Decisions of all the schools. When you're getting cult from
agents being like, hey, we have an offer from this
school for this much. What's one school that came up
the most? It was like, hey, L s U. L
S wh's got a big baseball brother. They're always kind
offering the most. What school does it seem to you
is like always offering the most?

Speaker 5 (01:36:28):
Well, you know, I think, oh as far as N
I L N I L like you're I'm talking about, like, yeah,
you know, I think there's a few certain ones that
seem to be more organized out of the shoot. But
you know, you brought up L s U. It's like
it's a religion down there. That culture is so different,

(01:36:51):
and not just in sports, but just in life. It's
pretty cool to be around. Just the vibe. You're not
going to go hungry if you're walking around down in Louisiana,
and and that vibe is sports is life. And then
in the state of Texas it's you know, everything's bigger.
It is true in a lot of different ways, and
down there it's like who can throw out the bigger

(01:37:12):
wallet or the bigger amount. So and then there's traditions
at other sports too, and there's some quirky niches that
are out there. So it honestly, it varied. It'd be
now I'm not in college. Maybe I could throw something
out there, but it honestly varied where some were really
organized out of the shoot and then others made adjustments.
Oil money is real and then you guys see it

(01:37:35):
like fan bases or loil and I don't you know,
I've been in Columbus, but ohiose it's a big city
in Ohio state football? Is it? Is it? That's the
main deal going on?

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
What are a couple guardrails you'd put up in college
baseball with the nil and the portal. It's like for football,
like I don't know the portal windows and stuff, but
in football, I want to say the main one opens
up in December, yeah, or.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
The last I thought it was the first week of January.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
Yeah, it might be that. I know it's shipped a
couple of times. But what makes it very hard to
where it's like, hey, if we're going to do all
this money stuff and everything else, like just make it
a like a free agency type window our kids, Like
some of these decisions aren't getting made, were right if
there's still some season left or like right after it's happening.

Speaker 6 (01:38:24):
And there's teams playing for in the playoffs that are
focused on the playoffs. Other teams are not making a
bowl game.

Speaker 5 (01:38:29):
Some bowl games, yeah, but being you know, with our
sport being a spring sport, and this is totally off
the cuff. I don't have a stance one way or
the other. But some people are in favor of guys
being able to transfer and play if you transfer it semester.
So right now, somewhere out there in the SEC, there's
a kid that's realizing this isn't the place for me,
and but he's good enough to be in the SEC.

(01:38:51):
Why can't he transfer at December, at the end of
the semester and be eligible. You know that that creates
a big mess, but that's an option out there. And
then you know, moving the portal dates. You know, I
don't know that it'd affect our deal too much because
so many of these conversations start before they start, you know,
so our deal does start, you know, I think in

(01:39:13):
the middle of regionals, and it creates a bit of
a mess. And now you're trying to win a regional
and you know, recruit a kid or a kid's trying
to win a regional, but he's already you know, got
one foot out the door. So I think it's kind
of nature of the beast.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
A lot of the.

Speaker 5 (01:39:26):
Stuff starts before it actually happens, and I don't know
how you safeguard or put up you know, rails against that.
But that's why the smarter people than I and higher
paid positions.

Speaker 1 (01:39:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:39:40):
Yeah, and that's a word that gets thrown out a lot.
You know, I think what the actual definition of that
needs to be put out there. And I think, you know, again,
someone will say I did this or that, but I
think pretty staunch penalties against that would be wise. But
there's always back champ stuff when agents are involved, and

(01:40:02):
again they've got a job to do. When agents are
involved and they can technically be a middleman or a
third party, it throws everything out of whack a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:40:11):
I mean even in NFL, like there's a tampering period
before the free agency period that's.

Speaker 1 (01:40:15):
Like well known.

Speaker 6 (01:40:16):
It's like these guys as soon as like free agency starts,
if it's like two pm on this day, it's like
two oh one pm, these ten guys are getting signed
with these massive contracts. There's always tom foolery about sure,
but it's like, how do you that's like the name
of the game. Right, Like, you find the rules and
then you exploit the rules with the way they're written
to put your team in the best advantage you possibly can't.

Speaker 5 (01:40:36):
Yeah, I've tried to say, I mean with the NCAA
in particular, I've seen a bunch of rule changes, and
again I don't know necessarily what's best. You just find
out what they are and you're trying to do your best job.
But anytime you make a rule or a law, to me,
you should always hire a criminal and say, how are
we getting around you know, yeah, we're going to start
a casino you would want you know, I think you've

(01:40:57):
had some time at the table.

Speaker 6 (01:40:58):
Yeah, not as a criminal.

Speaker 5 (01:41:02):
How do we hire a criminal?

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:41:05):
Well actually yeah, but you know, find find out what
are the ways around this, and maybe you can prevent it,
but there's probably always going to be a gray area,
and you know, I guess and anything. Kudos to people
that are aggressive trying to make it happen.

Speaker 6 (01:41:17):
It's such an interesting world. Danna l is just so
crazy right now, All.

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(01:43:06):
Let's get back to Tony in the MLB world, we
in favor of a salary.

Speaker 5 (01:43:11):
Cap to an extent, to an extent I need yeah
right now?

Speaker 3 (01:43:20):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
Or not?

Speaker 5 (01:43:21):
Trying to stay out of trouble.

Speaker 6 (01:43:23):
Yeah, although you went a great job of doing the
allegedlies and people will say I did this, But would.

Speaker 1 (01:43:28):
You like to see a salary cap in college baseball?

Speaker 3 (01:43:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:43:30):
Yeah, yeah, what I again? I do kind of like
what it's it's delicate because America is built on pushing
the envelope and trying to outdo people and capitalism and
things like that. But in the spirit of competition, I
do like when things are even, so you know where
the where the balance is between those two As far
as what you can pay people, I don't necessarily know,

(01:43:52):
but yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
Look at the example of the ESPN and YouTube TV
right now. Yeah, as far as fighting for capital.

Speaker 6 (01:43:59):
Viewers, yeah, the leaders are losing right now on both ends.
Uh yeah, But we were just some of the Dodgers
and how the Dodgers. It's bad for baseball. The Dodgers won,
this is Mitch's take, because they can pay more money
for people. Also, they have a crazy like vet tunnel
from like Japan, the most disciplined people ever, Like the
people from Japan love Dodgers. If you uh from a
giant time zone works out the whole thing. They though

(01:44:22):
they had a nice little tunnel with the Dodgers. When
you look at the Giants, is this like a franchise
that can spend a lot of it? Do they spend
a lot of money?

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:44:30):
They're aggressive. Okay, good, they're good.

Speaker 6 (01:44:32):
So we're in a good spot.

Speaker 5 (01:44:33):
Yeah, I think so. You guys want to jump on board.

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
Yeah, listen, we have hasn't hit our account right now
to where a couple of years ago somebody was on
the podcast is I think they said that they would
give their salary to Busting with the Boys to win
a national.

Speaker 6 (01:44:50):
And did that person win a national championship? He did
that year? It did Bust with the Boys get their salary?

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
They did not see a dollar?

Speaker 6 (01:44:56):
Do you pull up that individual salary?

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
Tuning in with Don't pull San Francisco new viewers rooting
on your next manager. Coach Tony V was on. We
sat down with him out in Tennessee for Busting with
the Boys an episode and oh damn. The question we
like to ask is what would you be willing to
do to win like a national title or a super
Bowl super Bowl? And Tony V was on he said

(01:45:21):
he'd give us his salary if he won a national
title that year. We went on through the first pitch
here and yea, yeah, they going to win a national title.
So we've been having guns point at Tony V like, hey,
you have where's that salary? I fail getting it. We
were dipping into the new salary.

Speaker 5 (01:45:36):
We could, we could come up with an agreement, especially
because I failed. I've been running around. We're interviewing people,
but the plan was to come in with a briefcase
full of IOUs two and seventy five thould you might
want to hold on ye.

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
Hold on out.

Speaker 6 (01:45:52):
It's a big one. Might want to hold on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:45:54):
Yeah, so we could.

Speaker 6 (01:45:56):
We'll get on a payment plan. We'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
Yeah, maybe, Like I.

Speaker 5 (01:45:59):
Don't know, Like, I mean, how about a Beverett Like
now that at least I'm not a molding young men
and having to recruit, I actually won't be fearful of
being seen with a beverage in my hand.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:46:10):
Well, we'll start with if I see you guys, a
free cocktail, and then we'll just keep the tab run
until a million might buy us a coffee or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
And no one how the national title went. You might
have to have us out to throw a first pitch
to get that World series time.

Speaker 5 (01:46:25):
I'm one hundred percent down with that.

Speaker 6 (01:46:27):
Yeah, we need that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
Here's where it starts. Would you be willing to give
us your salary this year with the Giants if you
win a World Series?

Speaker 5 (01:46:37):
A good chunk, a good chunk.

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
Yes, I would exactly what what you need to say
right now is yes, then we do the first pitch
thing and it might just be written in the stars,
written the stars. Then you never give it to us.

Speaker 5 (01:46:47):
I would do that. I would do that, and would
actually give it to us as Yeah, and then i'd
you know, we'ream the streets of San Francisco and there's
got to be a company that's having enough success there
that amount of chump chain about there.

Speaker 6 (01:47:02):
That's a perfect city to give out money.

Speaker 5 (01:47:05):
Yes, we have a non handshake deal. For the non
handshake deal for the record.

Speaker 1 (01:47:12):
Oh bro, what else do I have?

Speaker 4 (01:47:14):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
I have a question? Oh So, it's like coming up
through high school when we were younger, it's like it
seemed like if you get drafted or going to the
farm system, that could be a better route to the
MLB versus like going to college. Has that shifted a
lot due to the NIO stuff going on in college baseball?
You know what it is? Is that a good question? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:47:33):
I think scouts were real fearful of, Hey, we want
to give this guy, you know, eight hundred thousand dollars
in the third round, but he's going to get pushed
to college. And I think there's been examples people can
point to, like, hey, they bought this guy out of
the draft. I think there's probably more of that with
returning players, like a sophomore or a junior that could
have left college X and gone to the draft. Maybe

(01:47:56):
he's more inclined to come back because he's already ingrained
in the community. He's getting the andile set up. But
I think it's, like anything, it's case by case. I
don't think it was as rampant as maybe scouts feared of. Man,
I'll put all this work in on this guy. I
know he's the guy I want. I go to the
front office, But when we call him on draft days like, no,
I'm good, I'm getting six figures from a college.

Speaker 1 (01:48:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:48:17):
So it skewed it a little bit, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
But so my follow up is that where you is
that where some collaborative efforts on bringing college baseball or
the NCAA into like the MLB in some sort of
a way.

Speaker 5 (01:48:31):
I think, if anything, an understanding instead of both sides
wondering what's going on. And Hey, I always kind of
kept my distance because I've just kind of been a
live I've lived my life in the clubhouse. I mean,
that's my family away from my family. But there's probably
already been some continuity between college coaches and pro teams,
but might as well open up the avenues and everybody

(01:48:52):
have a full understanding of how it works and what
goes on, so that people can make the best decisions
without you know, looking back on it with yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:49:00):
Yeah, yeah, I feel there's a lot there's a lot
more nuance as a high school player coming out, Yeah,
potential to get drafted, potential to go make a lot
of money in college, and yeah, so the development in
a certain organization that you might want, Like I'm just
assuming here, Like if I'm a player and you're a
massive fan of you or development of you, and you
could get a call coming out on draft day and

(01:49:22):
you're kind of stuck between a rock and a hard
place of wanting to go into this organization but getting
a lot more big dollars to go play college baseball.
I could just see where there's a it's a very
nuanced decision that an entire family is making.

Speaker 5 (01:49:32):
I think it could be an X factor at the
end of the day. I think a lot of decisions
are made ahead of time, and it's like maybe a
fallback on something like that. It makes me feel confirms
that's what I want to do, or just has more
gives more conviction to the decision. But I think a
lot of these guys, man, it's in their DNA what
they want to do at a time. And then you've
got the first round as unique. It's if they're making

(01:49:54):
you their number one, you know they're committed to you
more than any other player and that draft class to
make it to the big leagues, it's hard to say
no when of course there's finances that come with it.
But I think there's very few swing guys where you
can change their mind. I think more times than not,
it's kind of in the DNA, so to speak.

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
What it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:13):
Yeah, I appreciate you being up, but I'm very right
when it comes to all this baseball talk.

Speaker 6 (01:50:17):
Yeah, yeah, Sam, how long if someone's picked in the
first round, what is like the average amount of time
it takes them to get to the big leagues.

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:50:23):
I mean, we've got a kid now that it'll be
interesting to coach him because he said no to us
and committed to Alabama. But Bryce Eldridge is a guy
who's you know, twenty one years old probably and has
already seen what it looks like in the big leagues.
So again, that sequence can happen different for various guys.
But to go from high school to the big leagues,
you got your outliers like Brett Anderson was a left

(01:50:45):
handed pitcher, and Andrew Jones, who can make it it
Y're twenty twenty one. But I think on average it's
price six seven years really, so you know, and again
I'm throwing that out. All this stuff is just my
vantage point. There's other people you could bring on that
are either have variant opinions or are different experts. That's
cya but uh, but yeah, I think in general you're

(01:51:07):
looking at a long march into the big leagues. But
there's there's reasons why clubs can can show kids it's
an advantage to get into the organization and start your
pro career. And then there's also college coaches that can say, look,
if you're playing in the SEC, you're actually speeding up
the process to make it to the big leagues because
you're learning how to handle media and you know, compete

(01:51:29):
at a high level. Deal with fans knowing what you
got on your Instagram and yelling at you. And then
you've seen it too. There's proof in the pudding with
guys who almost go straight from our league to the
to the big leagues, whether it's Schimes or Christian more
guys like that.

Speaker 1 (01:51:44):
What do you think you what will you miss most
about coaching college baseball?

Speaker 5 (01:51:47):
I think just from seeing this weekend with a college
football Saturday, just the youthfulness, the youthful energy. Having said that,
there's a donor who lives here. Really good, dude. I'm
watching Game seven of the Blue Jays Mariners and he's
texting me because it had kind of gotten hot and
heavy at this point. You know, you're better around kids
and and that energy thing. And I'm watching the game

(01:52:09):
and I get that, and I agree with it. But
if you were watching Mariners versus Blue Jays Game seven
and you don't see two dugouts full of kids, you know,
and again, you guys have experienced it in pro sports
like it's recess. You're wearing a damn uniform.

Speaker 6 (01:52:23):
And still playing, still having fun.

Speaker 5 (01:52:25):
Yeah, yeah, you're you're behaving as if you were a
kid and you're playing a kid's game. And then when
you take the uniform off. Your life is different because
you're an adult or you have a family. But I
think that's the essence of the fun moments of sports
as you get to see guys being in that character
of being a kid, but you're seeing it at the
highest level athlete.

Speaker 1 (01:52:44):
Yeah, especially when you're in the playoffs. Why does MLB
one hundred and sixty two games?

Speaker 6 (01:52:48):
Why do we do that? That's so many games?

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
Just so many?

Speaker 5 (01:52:56):
How many games are college baseball fifty six regular season?

Speaker 1 (01:53:00):
Ok?

Speaker 5 (01:53:00):
And then of course you start the postseason with the
conference tournament all that, so you can end up playing
about seventy games if you have a successful year, maybe
a little bit more.

Speaker 6 (01:53:08):
Earlier in the part you're talking about you starting off
slow and then getting real hot towards the end. Then
this past year is starting real hot and they kind
of being okay towards the end. How is it as
a coach manager like motivating guys when you have that
many games? Because football it's like every game kind of counts.
If you lose one, it's like, guys, we can't we
if we lose one. More like warnabat spot making the
playoffs with you, guys, it's like you drop three or four,

(01:53:30):
it's like, hey, who cares.

Speaker 5 (01:53:32):
Right, well, the biggest thing is and that was something
people cautioning against me. Of a distaste for losing can
really hurt you if because even a good season, you'd
lose sixty games, So you better learn how to deal
with that. And again I haven't personally experienced it, but
in the college level, even at fifty six games, it's like,
we beat Alabama, Coach hypels good enough to have me

(01:53:53):
in the locker room, and the guys have cigars and
things like that. You can't You got a game the
next day, so you really can't do that baseball. And
then when you lose, you know, after a loss of
you prepared all week and it comes down to the
last play. I can only imagine how down of a
feeling that is as a coaching staff. Next morning, see

(01:54:13):
in the office at six am breakdown video. I'm sure
coach Eckler would just sleep there. You can't do that.
It's go home, get a good night's sleep. When you
take you know, the old one. One kind of mental
deal is when you take your jersey off, the game
is over. In baseball, some guys will roll with that.
So yeah, it's a lot, a lot bigger sample size,
and you got to learn to roll with the punches

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a little bit more and you can't get as hyped
up as you as you do running out of the tunnel.

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
Dude, it is it is so fucking cool that you
were the first manager to kind of make this crack
into going from college to the MLB when you are
in your reflective stage, is your reflective state, Like, what
are some moments you look back on that you were
proud of that you persevered and stayed the course knowing
that you are now in this spot. It's I mean,
it's fucking awesome, bro, especially if if you're you.

Speaker 6 (01:55:00):
Go on win World Series and like yeah, like the
ability you've had, you're like, hey, well see if it
works out and all that. It's like we all know
the competitor and he was like you, obviously you're going
to crush this. But it's like they're the guinea pig
and you're kind of figuring out, like is this gonna work?

Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
Because if this.

Speaker 6 (01:55:14):
Works out for you, you're opening up a door to
every college baseball coach and it's like it's a sick
opportunity that you're being able to pave the way and
be different than everybody else.

Speaker 5 (01:55:24):
Now that's a source of energy too, that that other
people might be able to do something that they normally
wouldn't and it's it's not going to be me, it's
going to be just the general concept. And I think
there's starting to be an understanding of, yeah, I didn't
ride all the buses in the minor leagues where I
didn't have the talent to make it to the big leagues.
And I'm speaking on all college coaches, but the time
these guys have to invest in recruiting and learn how
to deal with people and watch games. I mean, you

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watch five or six games on any given day in
the summer through recruiting, so you're around baseball as much
as anybody. So if there's a little bit stronger of
a bridge there, that would be pretty awesome to be
a part of. But you know, reflecting on what I
persevered through as a player, speaking of crying at Missouri,
there's a couple of times where I was just like,
I'm working my ass off and I'm not getting rewarded

(01:56:09):
the way that I should. Is this worth it? And
there were a couple of days where I was just
gonna quit as a player and I didn't, you know,
see it working out like this. But if I would
have quit as a player, it wouldn't have worked out
as a coach. And then two, as a coach, it's
kind of like being an insurance salesman recruiting. I've heard
know so many damn times. I think, again, you only

(01:56:30):
see the successes. So maybe people think it's different. But
even at Tennessee, you hear know all the time and
it's negative feedback and it can beat you up. So
to keep pushing through it is pretty huge. But yeah,
that was It would take me a while to reflect
on the whole career. There's there's a lot of ups
and down, strikes and gutters, as the big Lebowski says,

(01:56:50):
But you know, it's been been awesome to be a
part of some of the teams I've been around. And
ultimately it starts with players. So again, I think the
concept started of maybe a college coach, but it started
with them having an interest in our players. And then two,
I've gotten credit for being around guys like Kyle Gibson's
a major League All Star guy, coached any we could

(01:57:10):
go pick somebody up off the street, they could have
coached that guy. It was just fortunate enough to get
a yes from them in recruiting, you know. And Max
Scherzer is Max Scherzer. But every time I address a team,
I can bring him up because everybody knows him and
I'm friends with him, and I coached him, and you
can almost kind of take credit for some of the
things he's done. But you've seen that guy Pitch. I mean,
he is the definition of creating your own future.

Speaker 1 (01:57:33):
Yeah, so that's sick man. You will be successful in
whatever moments you do reflect on a come up with
it can be part of your book one day. It
just won't you know, Wiley will not go bias that
we got to have him on the bus. Yeah, as
you're going in the majors. And not only that, but
we got to sit with you like before you went
on that the national title run and out. It's to me,
it's just sick that you you we have this relationship

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and you've allowed us to interview you and you've came
on the bus, and when you are fucking successful one
day and you do win the World World Series, like
I know, for us this will be this would.

Speaker 6 (01:58:02):
Just be a you talking about taking credit for what
some guys have done, like your perfect example for us,
when you win a world series, We're like, look what
we did, yeah, the three of us, Yeah, taking credit,
we helped Will Will the Giants into a world series.

Speaker 5 (01:58:17):
Well let's say, okay, if we are going to Manifest
or whatever, and we win a world series, if you
guys get to be in the clubhouse with the champagne
and everything, what is that worth dollar wise? Do you
see that?

Speaker 1 (01:58:28):
Man?

Speaker 6 (01:58:28):
Like, that's a good million.

Speaker 1 (01:58:30):
Put me some five.

Speaker 6 (01:58:34):
That might be worth five hundred. Put the cool goggles dropping,
dropping the it's ridiculous, like snowboarding goggles.

Speaker 5 (01:58:40):
Now I remember the I mean you were out there
and you threw out that first pitch and I was like, well,
ship didn't or do you have eligibility? Or but then
did you have again I'm not on social.

Speaker 6 (01:58:50):
Media, yeah you know on social media, but go ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:58:53):
Then there was there one that wasn't a successful Yeah
you know, I'm not being facetious. I'm trying to because
the one looks like.

Speaker 1 (01:58:59):
A good, big long lefty when he threw that first
pitch here and now it.

Speaker 5 (01:59:02):
Was good, really good.

Speaker 6 (01:59:03):
Thank you, And you brought that up because everyone wants
to look at Saint Louis and be like, that's the
sample size. Like people forget what happened in Tennessee. Here's
what happened. I tasted the success, sure, and I felt
good about it. A couple of your your guys and
the volunteers not bad. You know, used to throw a
little bit back in the day. So we go to
this Cardinals game and I'm thinking, I'm just gonna throw

(01:59:24):
as hard as I can. I'm gonna try to throw heat,
get on like ESPN Top ten and yeah, got away
from me, got away from me. Didn't bring it around. Yeah,
And can I be honest? Since that day, I've had
the yips well to where we go and we go
to the Royals game and I throw one that's a
little too high and it's better than that one, but
it's like, what are Let's get back to the basics.

Speaker 1 (01:59:45):
Sure, So working on the side, he gets the ball
in his hand and you feel the confidence. But the
moment you step in the big leagues, Yeah, got that
ball in his hands, that could just start shaking.

Speaker 6 (01:59:53):
I'm gonna yeah, I'm I'm a triple A guy. I'm
never gonna do that. I'm a dude. That's gonna ride
the bus for fifteen twenty years.

Speaker 5 (02:00:00):
I don't have all the answers, but I'm in Nashville,
so maybe we need to play cats a little bit.

Speaker 6 (02:00:04):
I should have called you during this process.

Speaker 5 (02:00:06):
You know, the if anyone's listening out there that has
that opportunity. The number one advice I would say is
don't try and throw it hard. And you did better
than like fifty cent tried to throw hard and he's
muscled up, and Connor McGregor tried to do the same thing.
So yeah, just a little feel, a little touch pass if.

Speaker 6 (02:00:22):
Yeah. Well that's the thing though, is we It would
be very easy for me after that Cardinals game to
go and just kind of throw a muffin, get it
in there, no problem. But it's like, am I going
to take that way? Or I have to like kind
of keep the same process. Yeah, and I have to
conquer throwing hard.

Speaker 5 (02:00:38):
Yeah, we're gonna have to.

Speaker 6 (02:00:40):
Maybe after this podcast we get out there. We had
a couple gloves, you give me, Just give me a
couple of pointers. Throw the ball ten fifteen times.

Speaker 5 (02:00:46):
I should have brought all these materials. I'm upset the
no suitcase with the IOUs should have brought a ball
on some gloves.

Speaker 6 (02:00:52):
That's right. I can guarantee we'll be out in San
France sometime. Yeah, I can guarantee that for you. Bring
it on, We'll be out. I think we're officially a
bus with the boys. Uh, San Francisco Giants fans, right
we are.

Speaker 5 (02:01:02):
Now, I'll send some gear. Yeah, you know spooky now
that Super bowls in San Francisco, right, Yes, will you
guys set up shop out there doing anything?

Speaker 6 (02:01:14):
We will be out there.

Speaker 1 (02:01:15):
Yeah, we'll be out there. We haven't got said in
stone yet.

Speaker 5 (02:01:18):
Yeah, yeah, we can arrange that. I've got an I
don't know that I should. Gabe Capler. Uh, there there's
a place that's been talked about.

Speaker 2 (02:01:34):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (02:01:35):
You know, Bob Melvin was the last manager and I
didn't get say it in the press conference, shame on me.
But he reached out to me and was a class
act and uh was very helpful. And then the manager
before him was Gabe Capler. And Uh, Gabe is in
pretty good shape and I think I think enjoyed the city.
So I'll explain how that involves a living arrangement. War off.

Speaker 6 (02:01:56):
The sounds like we have a big enough place to stay,
will we come out.

Speaker 5 (02:02:01):
We'll make sure that happens anyway. But yeah, there's the
official invitation, and man, what a cool I want to
see that stadium as well. I mean our park. You
guys will absolutely fall in love with. But I want
to go out there. And John Lynch reached out right
away obviously he's involved in the organization. Great dude. And
then if I can meet coach Shanahan because those guys
like Al Wilson and Peyton that know him through you

(02:02:22):
know his father with the Broncos. I always asked about
him and they say, the guy's an absolute superstar.

Speaker 1 (02:02:28):
You got a great football team that would very much
probably rally around the Giants. Yeah, good crew, good locker room,
good locker room.

Speaker 5 (02:02:34):
I probably shouldn't have it, but I was given George
Kittle's number, and uh, boy, would be fun to take
part in some shenanigans with that guy. Have you reached
out to George yet, Well, it was a group message.

Speaker 6 (02:02:46):
Got so Yeah. Yeah, George is the perfect guy. He's
the type of dude that he get dms from guys
and become friends with them. Yeah, and they'll be at
his part his Uh, George Hittlefest.

Speaker 1 (02:02:55):
Yeah, and not just dms from guys. I'm talking like
this is like meme group DM. Yeah. People he doesn't
know that, like Xbox fans, and they'll be out at
kittle Fest because he's like, oh, you're my guy, George,
Like and I'll be go, how'd you meet George? Like, Oh,
we're on the same kind of like Xbox team. Like
we just kind of DM every week and people drop
like different just memes in the DM, and Georgia will

(02:03:17):
respond and now they're out of here at kittle Fest
in Nashville.

Speaker 6 (02:03:20):
Yeah, so George, George is he's the perfect guy. The
forty nine ers.

Speaker 5 (02:03:23):
That's a true clubhouse team. That's why every kid should
at least be on one, you know, take part in
one team sport. Yeah, glovehouse mentality. It sounds like he's
the definition of it. What the hell's kittle Fest?

Speaker 1 (02:03:35):
Kittle Fest? Yeah, yeah, kittle Fest where Yeah, it's Kittlefest.
You don't know how to explain it.

Speaker 6 (02:03:41):
But every year is a different theme. It's out of
his farm, food trucks, jelly roll. He just randomly comes
in place.

Speaker 1 (02:03:47):
Yeah, people performing beer games. George just throws a party.

Speaker 5 (02:03:51):
That's awesome. Yeah, Jelly roll Man, that guy says something
to you. Even it was just a regular sentence, it
feels like a sermon. It's awesome. I have to have
him speak to the team if we if we go
through any poor streaks.

Speaker 6 (02:04:03):
Absolutely, he is the nicest guy ever.

Speaker 1 (02:04:06):
Yes he does. We want to him with the bud
Light questions. Go what an opportunity for him to say.
I'd be willing to give my entire salary to you
guys if we win the World series. Yeah, but we
can hit him with the bud Light questions. So bud
Light people would do anything for an ice cold bud light?

Speaker 5 (02:04:20):
Absolutely, what is.

Speaker 1 (02:04:21):
Something that you would do anything for.

Speaker 5 (02:04:25):
I wouldn't stand in front of a gun with Kid Rock,
that's for sure. It was just Halloween for an ice
cold bud light. I'd be willing to go back to
my I didn't wear a costume this year, but kind
of the one that I regret or look back on
the most was Kramer and Seinfeld once was trying to

(02:04:46):
be an underwear model. So there was one time I
roamed the streets of Columbia, Missouri with just tidy whities
and some Doc Martins or some shoes. So I'd revisit
that Halloween costume for an ice cold butler.

Speaker 6 (02:04:59):
Hey, yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 (02:05:03):
Columbia, Missouri.

Speaker 5 (02:05:04):
It's a fun town. Yeah, it's a fun town.

Speaker 1 (02:05:07):
It's part of some interesting teams.

Speaker 5 (02:05:08):
It's a little chilli. Yeah, a lot of personalities there,
and yeah it's interesting. I like the loyalty thing and
being a part of one place. But when you explore
new areas, you meet people that you never would have met,
and you pick up on different cultures. And I look
back on the four colleges I worked at and wouldn't
have it any other way.

Speaker 1 (02:05:29):
So to juice up the Seinfeld clip, would you be
willing to throw us an image of you back again?

Speaker 5 (02:05:37):
Is this an off air thing or is this going.

Speaker 6 (02:05:39):
On on social media?

Speaker 1 (02:05:42):
Now?

Speaker 5 (02:05:42):
I can't, I can't. I gotta do something between now
and spring training. I gotta get in shape if I'm
gonna be in uniform around these guys. But back then
I was in decent shape. But I don't think it
was anything to brag about and have the whole world
looking at that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:05:55):
Yeah, I'll handle this is a throwback photo. I'm wondering
the streets and tidy whities.

Speaker 6 (02:06:06):
Yeah, well, dude, congrats on your success.

Speaker 5 (02:06:09):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (02:06:09):
This is it's awesome ground floor.

Speaker 5 (02:06:12):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (02:06:13):
And thank you for taking the time to come here.

Speaker 5 (02:06:15):
No, this is awesome. Anyone would ever get a chance
to do this, UH would be floored. And you know,
Coach Eckler was good enough to to hook us up
a few years back and fortunately went well enough. I
didn't screw it up, but you know, you guys had
floated the invite. I knew something crazy had to happen
to actually step foot on this bad boy, and uh,
I appreciate it. Maybe maybe one day down the road

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we can do it again. Scottsdale, Arizona the the mecca.
And uh, I've never got to do the waste management thing.
My buddies do that every year. And I'm in a groove.
Text Bruce Bochi, you know he was another guy these
man like, I'm blown away because you know, on the
SEC there's high level of respect, but you're at each

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other's three wrote more than you want to be. And
I got the job, and all these guys reached out
to me with either text messages or phone calls. Managers
now in the MLB or former managers. And Bruce Bochi
he was with the Giants and with Buster. He lives
here and I was able to sit with him. But
one of the things he said a lot of great advice,
but maybe the thing that jumped out the most was

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he said, Scottsdale, Arizona during spring training is like Marty Grass.

Speaker 6 (02:07:23):
It is, dude, it's a zoo I grew I mean,
I grew up in Arizona and every time every spring
training it was like a flood of people coming in,
always something to do, somewhere to go. You're gonna love
old town Scottsdale. And if I could just give you
a piece of advice, if you want a team bonding experience, yes,
take your boys to Zips. Go to Zip. Hey, Am
I wrong? Hey?

Speaker 5 (02:07:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:07:46):
Get some golden wings.

Speaker 6 (02:07:48):
Call Zips, tell rent out this place, get yourself some
golden wings for the boys, some Monaco ficasias. You get
the whole.

Speaker 1 (02:07:55):
Team in there.

Speaker 6 (02:07:56):
But you're gonna spend twelve hundred bucks to feed your
entire team, but you're gonna walk away with full bellies
and full hearts. You guys might win it all based
off of this one experience.

Speaker 5 (02:08:04):
We will set that up one hundred percent and we'll come.

Speaker 1 (02:08:06):
How awesome would that be. It's like the players are
like coach apparently has some nice dinner. Yeah, Jop's the location.

Speaker 6 (02:08:12):
They pull up Zips Sports Bar and he's just like
Taylor told me to go here.

Speaker 1 (02:08:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:08:16):
Yeah, but that well, zim Zip sent us a gift
card for two and fifty dollars, which is like a
month worth of Zips. And we have talked about like
flying into Arizona for one day just to get Zips
and come back.

Speaker 1 (02:08:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:08:28):
But now spring training, boys.

Speaker 5 (02:08:30):
Let's go training. And then also, so those guys are
training for the for the big league season. You come down.
You trained for a first pitch in spring training.

Speaker 6 (02:08:39):
I love it?

Speaker 1 (02:08:40):
And we finished.

Speaker 5 (02:08:41):
Ready, Yeah, the real game in San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (02:08:43):
I would love.

Speaker 5 (02:08:44):
Yeah, Zips is the icing.

Speaker 6 (02:08:45):
Zips is icing on the cake. We're going to a
full day of training. Get the elbow nice and sore,
then we're gonna go feed some Zips. That elbow be
just fine. It's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:08:54):
You can just tell them we got a couple of
sponsors that lined us.

Speaker 6 (02:08:57):
Yeah, bring all the fellas Man Center on the boys. Hey,
that's I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (02:09:04):
I'm telling you, Chef before we get off for Jack.
Any questions for Coach b being sick o all fans.

Speaker 6 (02:09:11):
Uh, not a question.

Speaker 10 (02:09:12):
But thanks You truly embody what it is to be
a Tennessee ball and took Tennessee baseball into the forefront,
brought us first Natty truly incredible. The whole fan base,
I can wholeheartedly speak for them. We will miss you
and wish you the best of luck with the Giants.
And yeah, I'll be telling the giants now moving forward,
so GBO and whatever the go Giants.

Speaker 5 (02:09:32):
So thank you for I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (02:09:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:09:36):
Also thanks here. You're actually the reason I have a
job here. I did the documentary on Hunter I don't
know if you remember, and I interviewed you. That's the reason, Jared,
when I was an intern, he said, just off of
that alone is kind of how I got started here.
So appreciate it. Appreciate everything I did. Ball Baseball has
been such a great like since you got there and

(02:09:56):
turned the program into what it is now. It's added
just another sport that we get excited for and it feels,
you know, anything that we can root on the Orange
and White is the best thank you and best of luck.

Speaker 5 (02:10:07):
Yeah, well, thank you man. That's a cool story and
you did the work, so it's it.

Speaker 1 (02:10:11):
Goes to show you even know that with the documentary.

Speaker 5 (02:10:14):
Yeah yeah, I mean, if you do good work, someone's
gonna notice. So good on you for that to happen.
But I'm glad we had a part in it, and
overall just it almost like anytime you're talking to a
ball fan, you feel like you're talking to the whole group.
It's just a representative at that So as far as
that exchange goes, I got more out of it than
anyone else did. And it couldn't have happened without all

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the ingredients are there in a great city, obviously phenomenal
place in the fan base. And then you mix in
college baseball. If you haven't been to a college baseball
game and you're listening, you gotta go, no matter where
it is. It's become a party and it's a lot
of fun and you're seeing future big leaguers for a
much cheaper price. You know, not that there's anything wrong
with the San Francisco Giants prices, but no apreciation as

(02:11:00):
mutual and dude, Walk, I didn't know my dad's like,
how was the feedback or whatever? Because he cares and
you got to grow thick skin. But I went back
to the football game Saturday and just entering the stadium
stuff that people were saying on the street. I was like,
again to use the tears theme, Like, I was like,
I gotta duck my head and get in the stadium
because this is emotionally overwhelming and people don't have to

(02:11:21):
do that. So I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (02:11:24):
I think part of it Josh Lander stepping in. I
think a lot of people have trust in him, And
do you want to speak anything on that? And kind
of yeah, tell volls fans what they can expect. I've
heard some really cool stories about him being in Canada
and wildfires or maybe it was California and drove home
for like his wife's he was doing recruiting, wife pregnant,

(02:11:44):
and then got back out like just these crazy hard ethics,
hard work ethics stories. Do you have anything you can
attest to that?

Speaker 5 (02:11:50):
Yeah, to a fault going back and forth and being
on top of the recruiting thing, for sure, But no,
that was I feel like, you know, again the hat,
I feel like I'm still a part of all nation,
but really truly being a part of a victory that
was the last victory I was a part of, and
it was a small part of it.

Speaker 1 (02:12:09):
Really.

Speaker 5 (02:12:09):
It was the player spoke up, the agents that he
worked with, the summer coaches, the players that are in
our recruiting classes. He was the guy that was heading
all that up. And you know, just because there were
some moments maybe you accidentally touch an umpire or bump
into an umpire, I should say, you get a little
more attention than you deserve. There was a massive group

(02:12:31):
effort in that building to try and get the thing,
you know, going, and he was just a big of
a part of it as any. So he's the right leader,
but there's also the right players on the field. And
then also it'll keep that culture going. And there's something,
like I said, consistency of that culture. Tennessee baseball, for
whatever reason, has a vibe and the fans contribute to it.

(02:12:53):
So the fact that ViBe's gonna keep rolling fires me up,
should fire everybody else up to.

Speaker 1 (02:12:58):
YEA, yeah, before we get off, do you have a
piece of advice that you've latched onto as you're making
this transition.

Speaker 5 (02:13:06):
Again, I think, make a decision and do it like
hell was something that a family we talked about earlier
kept kept revisiting with me. And and the thing I've
always latched onto from a mentor of mind with these
recruits is the right decision is the one you make,
you know, unless you look back on it or your
second guess or you regret things. So those are somewhat

(02:13:29):
corny ones, but I think impactful at this point. But
more than anything, I'm just gonna enjoy it. Again. I'm
the guinea pig, so whichever way it goes, I'm blessed
to be able to experience it. And the organization has
blown me away so far and how they do things,
So I'm gonna learn a lot and have fun doing it.
And we'll see if we win enough games for you
guys to be in the locker room one day. Appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (02:13:54):
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