Will Chiefs Make The Playoffs? Josh Allen For MVP? Eagles Win Again + College Football Playoff Chaos

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(01:29):
into the reactions. Let's talk about NFL. Things are chaos,
Things are going crazy right now. And as much as
things change, they somehow stay the same. When you look
at the Eagles and the Lions is like, oh my god,
you're looking at a Kansas City Chiefs team that's five hundred,
while the Denver Broncos are what nine and two? Eight
and two of them? One of them. There's something on

(01:51):
to something in two. There's something in two. But let's
go ahead and trickle down to the Thursday night a
football game that took place, and know you boys did
a stream. If you always want to talk about that.
My little last in Arizona taking care of some stuff
right there. But Patriots dead with the Patriots have consistently
We've done this entire year. They're also done in two.
They get themselves a twenty seven to fourteen win over
a powerhouse New York Jets team.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, we can get in the AFC East. We'll start
in the AFC East. Like Patriots, they're incredible. They're incredible,
and everybody too that's talking about they have the easiest
schedule in the NFL. Like, sure, statistically analytically you can
say that, but this is the NFL. This isn't college football.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Right, and something to put in people's minds. When you
have the easiest schedule, you're going against the easiest teams.
They were bad last year, they had better draft picks
in that so they should statistically get better as a
team if their front office is doing what they're supposed to.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Be doing right, And no matter what the expectation coming
into this season was, like Patriots could compete maybe for
the second they'll be in that kind of second or
third range of the AFC East. Like it's the Bills.
This is the Bills. I have Josh Allen Yere like
these are you know it's the Buffalo Bills talk every year.
This is purely like a rebuilding expectation for the New
England Patriots. And the way they look right now, they

(03:00):
May looks in the pocket like the dude makes the
game look easy. He's calm. Like you'll hear about quarterbacks.
I want to say, Bo Nicks might be one who
else where they just rock at the ball where they
just throw the ball hard.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Caleb Williams.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Caleb Williams with cam Ward at times. But you watch
Drake May the touch he puts on these balls, and
just the poise and calm he has, like when he's
maneuvering around the pocket, when he's breaking tackles. The dude
is a baller right now, I think too. After you
watch the Sammy Darnold and Matt Stafford play the Rams
Seattle game. Jonathan Taylor was on a bye week, but

(03:32):
those quarterbacks Sammy d and Stafford kind of being in
the MVP conversation, I feel like Drake May is right now.
He is the leader. He is at the forefront. I
know he's at the front of the odds, but everybody
kind of had everybody pocketed in there on who's going
to show up as the MVP. I think after this weekend,
Drake May is the MVP of the NFL right now.
Josh Allen starting to creep in there. You have a
six touchdown game, You'll be back in the conversation.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Matthew Stafford he had three touchdowns? Ye yesterday didn't he
three touchdowns zero interceptions? Yet again I.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Had like a what do you have two Mosey's stat line? Stafford, Yeah,
one hundred and thirty yards.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Two.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, he has one hundred and thirty yards two touchdowns, right,
And so it's really those two guys, especially after Sammy
d has himself a four interception game those years. I
mean the guy who I think we should be waving
the fly for a little bit more as a guy
that was on a bi week this week, Jonathan Taylor.
People are talking about this as a quarterback award. It
really just needs to the quarterback. We need somebody needs
to at the very least draw a line the sand

(04:28):
and hold the flag for some of these other positions
getting this MVP award. And Jonathan Taylor, there's going to
be anybody this year, It's going to be him.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, if he comes out again. I feel like for
running backs, it's just it's harder as run me because
it's usually a QB dominated award. Unless Jonathan Taylor continues
to do what he's been doing and gets like thirty
touchdowns on the season, it'll be hard for him to
get that word now if he gets thirty touchdowns or
if he breaks a touchdown record or has two thousand
on the ground, like he's a versatile running back. Like
the Colts I think are for real, Like where are

(04:57):
they at right now? They'd be like the two seed?
Would they be the two seeds behind it and they lost?
Would the Broncos? Either way, you got the Broncos, you
got the Colt, you got the New England Patriots. If
he finishes, if he finishes the way he's been performing,
I just feel like it's much harder for running back
to do. He absolutely should be in the conversation.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
I feel like, right now it's it's Drake. Right now,
it's Drake May. I mean Patriots two lost team number
one in the AFC. Drake May, Drake May Mike Rabel Coach.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Of the Year for Coach of the Year, Yeah, it
is it cannot be understated. It cannot be understated what
the New England Patriots and Mike Vrabel has done with
the culture already in one year. You've already kind of
splashed on a little bit. Like if they went four
and thirteen this year, people be like, that's kind of
the expectation is to be like a bottom of the
barrel team. They didn't have the roster, they don't have

(05:44):
the guys that had a bad year last year. Drake
may an early part of the season, everyone's like he
needs another year to develop and become the quarterback that
the New England Patriots want him to be. They have
thrown all that out of the window. They're playing sound,
complete defense. They have the number one rush defense in
the NFL. Ra may As, I think at this point
we can just say he's throwing the best deep ball
in the entire NFL. Like they are balance. They're a

(06:06):
balance attack on offense. Their offensive line is playing well
for how young they are, especially on the left side
that offensive line. It is truly impressive to see what
Mike Rabel has done in New England. Incredible, absolutely incredible.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Then you look at Uh, then you look at the Bills,
massive massive win over the Buccaneers. It started off when
Josh Allen to that pick himself.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
I was like, man, it's about it, and yeah, backed up,
It's like, bro, this is really going to this might
be the end of the Bills for this season. I'm
never going to kind of out like if Josh is
a bad year next year, I'm like, well it's Josh
Allen like that, that's a one off.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
You're thinking more they're going to be in the wild
card conversation.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, maybe maybe, because then you start I mean, they
if they can, if they spiral that game, if it
was the pick, and then it just kept going that way,
similar did it for them last week. It's like, yeah,
what is this team really because when you look at
the Bills defense, their defense, they clearly have an issue,
and it's if you can run the ball effectively between
the tackles, you're going to beat the Bills. That is

(07:05):
kind of what you be in position. You'll be in
a position to beat the Bills. You'll be able to
stay in the game because, like you pointed out before
the after that Atlanta Falcons game, like they're light in
the ass, and when you're lighting the ass and you
can do gap scheme downhill runs from under center. You
are going to be in a world of trouble if
you're a Josh Allen because he plays in backyard football.
Yesterday it was absolutely incredible what he does. But how
often can we expect him to do these things when

(07:27):
he has a wide receiver room the way he does?

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah? And he what is it a second time in
his career that he said that? He said three passing
and three rushing touchdowns. Yeah, and Klumpy, you just had
the mic in your hand. Give us a stat you
were talking to us about.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Josh Allen currently has seventy five career rushing touchdowns, which
is tied for the most in NFL history by a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Who is who?

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Who is? He tied with Cam Newton. Cam's only Josh
Allen's eighth year.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
And we got safely five plus years of elite play,
probably from Josh Allen's.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Barring a major injury. Josh Allen is going to wipe
the floor with that record.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, one of a kind player in the three and three,
Like the record is held by somebody who played.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
There was Frank Targentin back in the fifties. Fran.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah, and he did it three times, so Josh Allen
is only one game away from tyme at record.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Back in the nineteen fifties.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Nineteen fifties.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Impressive stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, they didn't throw the ball in the nineteen fifties.
That like nineteen fifties one is kind of impressive.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah, it's crazy that he's so good at running the football.
But I don't know if you guys saw his deep
ball to Shavers, I believe, just scrambling around and then just.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
A bomb like he is.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
He's a freak freak player, he really is. And his
offensive line is good too, Like they have the opportunity.
James Cookie can run it at a clip anytime he wants. Like,
their offense can be really good. There's gonna be more consistent,
but their defense is the thing that scares me. When
we're talking about postseason. Yes, yeah, we're talking about Championship,
Super Bowl, Lombardi Trophy, Will Compton, Taylor Lawan throwing bean

(08:52):
through the through a table. I'm concerned about right now
that in November.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, yeah, can we bring up while we're two talk
about this next thing? And can we bring up New
England and Buffalo's wrestler schedules?

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Right one thing. I'll just will motor past it pretty quickly.
But it is getting a little more interesting to me.
The Miami Dolphins. Okay, they've won two in a row,
and I'll tell you the biggest difference about the Miami
Dolphins is they're they're not doing this cute motion everything,
tricky DG type of offense. They're actually just getting under
center and running downhill plays with eight chan They're running

(09:27):
play action pass and you can see a massive change
in their offense. Obviously it was thirteen thirteen. They go,
they win an overtime game after Marcus Mariota and the
overtime throws a pick. Quickly they go kick the three
and it's over. But like their offense seems so much
more controlled time of possession. It's just something to keep
your eye on. I'm not saying that the Miami Dolphins

(09:47):
are gonna be anything, but watching how quickly they've transitioned
their offensive scheme. Yeah, something to keep your eye on. Somebody,
you know, littlewis if you're Miami fan, like, maybe we
we got something going on here now.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
I love that you brought that up. Be because football
fans out there, football fans ever, we're in such a
prime time of the season because here's where chaos ensuies.
If you watch and if you're also in college again
college all drop here later on or they'll be later
in the episode. But if you're on audio later in
the episode.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
But if you love chaos or which we do on
this bus, which we do.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
On this bus, how some of these conversations could shift
around the Dolphins because you know, realistically, like they can't lose,
they can't lose another game. But for them to get
in some of these potential wildcard spots, here's the rest
of their schedule. They got the Saints, they're on a
bye week right now. Then they have the Saints, then
they have the Jets, then they have the Steelers, Bengals, Buccaneers,

(10:38):
and Patriots to end the year. You look at Bucks Patriots,
the way the Steelers are playing there so inconsistently, you
have no clue.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
You never know, right they like the Falcons, Like if
they win, if the Steelers win the week before they
play the Dolphins, you assume they're gonna lose the Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, but over the next two you got Saints and Jets,
and right there they could be making a little comeback
to where they they'll be sitting at six and seven.
They could be sitting at six and seven. And the
conversations with the Miami Dolphins, the potential chaos of the NFL,
it could be alive and well, because again you got
Saints and Jets. Then the Steelers will have to play
at Pittsburgh, but they will be playing some They will

(11:11):
be playing some uh December, they'll be playing December football,
some meaningful games in December. Yeah, then you got the
Bengals after that. Then obviously you end with the Bucks
and Patriots, but they could they can be interesting there.
They could be looking at playoff mode in December.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Patriots could bench their starters in the last game of
the year too, so that it could be a little
free win.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
It could be a.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Little free win.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
I see, Ray's been playing them for a half at
least at least, but it's in New England. We obviously
know the Mmy Dolphins how they handle the cold not
very well. But you see that Bucks game, bro, if
they don't get healthy and and Baker Mayfield, he's got
to keep scrambling the way he is, like, it's hard
to believe that Baker's be able to stay healthy the
entire year, having to play the way he is to
keep his team going. We could be getting into that

(11:56):
late December early January with a no Baker may Fields
Bucks and then the Patriots sitting their team, and all
of a sudden, the Miami Dolphins are kicking the Kansas
City Chiefs out of the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Well, Chiefs, they could be out of the playoffs, buddy,
right now they're out of the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Dolphins, Dolphins or Chiefs. You're gonna pa, You're gonna.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
Take the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
I understand you're a little thing you got with the Chiefs, buddy,
but come on fire. Their GM McDaniels is a dead
man walking right now, like the Chiefs.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Team than the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Why can't we think that way? Yeah, the Chiefs are
what to five and one score games like the Chiefs.
Here's what's gonna be painted for the rest of the year.
If anybody can do it, the Chiefs can do it.
But right now, like the Chiefs, they just don't have
any of that juju going for him, any of it.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Last year, the biggest knock on them was they're winning
these games in such unique ways. The blocked field goal,
the DP game, yeah, twelve and zero one score games.
Now we get to this year, same situation, just coin
flip going the opposite way. They're owing five. Yeah, they've
got to They've either got to not make it a
one score game or figure out a way to win

(13:15):
those one score games. So that's that's the game plan. Boys,
if you're wondering, if you're the Chiefs, that's how you
deal it. We look at the chief schedule right now,
they got the Colts at home, Cowboys away, Texans, Chargers,
who Charges are very inconsistent as well. We saw what
the Jacksonville Jaguars did to them Dommy Session right there,
Dommy Session.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Jaguars beat their ass man beat their ass and I
was surprised. I'm like, okay, Chargers were four and one
in their last five. Like they're still they're still in
the hunt. They're still in the home with the division.
Like there's still a team that's finding ways. You got
justin Herbert who can win any football game. Don't have
to put an old line in front of him. The
dude finds a way to win. And for them to
just get killed by the Jaguars, who Jaguars have been inconsistent.

(13:57):
They were sneaky at the very beginning. Then they're kind
of like, Okay, they seem like the Jaguars of old
over the last few weeks, but now it's like the
jaguars sneaky tough in the AFC right.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Now, sneaky tough. They're back to sneaky tough. I'm gonna
say they're sneaky dead.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
But how can you say they're sneaky dead after beating
the charge.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
If they can be sneak, if they can be sneaky tough,
they can also be sneaky dead. Because if this is
what sneaky is, sneaky is hope. All right, I'm just
taking the hope and being the native portion of the hope, right.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
But you're taking the hope after an insanely optimistic ass whooping.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Insanely optimistic as whooping when they beat the chief. That
was insanely optimism going around there. What happened after that?
But you're boats they roll the boats cross the pond,
ass whopping, But.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
You're saying jag.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
You're saying jags after thirty five six win, you're like,
sneaky dead, sneaky dead.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Because everyone's like, oh, they're so alive right now, because
the ass women. They just put on sneaky dead. Okay,
what's the Jags record right now?

Speaker 5 (14:49):
Six and four.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Snaky dead. That's a great record to be sneaky dead.
That's a great record to be sneaky dead. I don't
need to see Herbert's totter brother, Okay, sure.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
By the way, I did not know Herbert had a
brother in the league. It's crazy, right, Herbert's hotter brother
plays for the Jacks. Tight end for the Jacks. Yeah, yeah,
look alike, sound alike. And I see that there's a
Herbert tight end down there in Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Talk to me about Steelers Bengals. I know the Steelers
won that game. But a little note there says Rogers
hurt wrist could be out. What can I what happened there?

Speaker 6 (15:32):
I think that's a small break or something like that.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Alleged small break.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Per Aaron Rodgers sources, they said it was a very
weird report. But I guess someone close to Aaron Rodgers
let them know that. Someone said they believes he has
a broken left wrist day.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
To day, not throwing him.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
I'll tell you what, there's there's not gonna be a
more a rod moment than he goes out for the
next game with a club on his left hand and
just goes in fucking slings that thing. So tries to
give him. He gives a little jab in the throat.
I kind of like it. I like the adversity. Speaking
speaking of inconsistency.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Steelers, Well, you're gonna say, jab this is kind of
for you. The Steelers game, there was a spitgate with
Jamar Chase and Jalen Ramsey and uh, I guess Jamar
Chase allegedly spit Jaalen Ramsey and then he punched him.
I don't know if you guys saw that, but they.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Reviewed the film Combo.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
He definitely spit and then they interviewed Jayalen Ramsey after.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Did you see his interview after?

Speaker 4 (16:28):
It was like he said, respectfully, expectfully, He's like, when
someone spits on me, I don't care about football at
that point, respectfully, he said, fuck football.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
At that point, he.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Said, ah, somebody spits on me. It's up. I don't
even care about football at that point. Respect was.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
It, little Luke? No, I didn't. My dad came over
and wanted to talk about his love life. I'm like them,
I'm trying to watch these games right now, classic, Dave,
I'm going out with this girl. Hi, Dave, I hid
Dave win rebel a one. She had herself a little
she started to baying and they had their first louting
at this bowling alley and they like were singing two

(17:05):
original songs at four forty five. And I go, Dave,
you're trying to go to this. It'd be awesome, thinking Grandfather.
He's like, I got this, I got this date kind
of meet up with this girl. I got plans. I thinking,
I look home, I go, hell of grandfather, all right, Dave, Yeah,
I just but it was last minute, So I got
to give Dave a little bit of credit. It was

(17:26):
a last minute. And VI that's on me live music.
I'll tell you what. The girls kind of had themselves
a couple of choreographed dance moves. Well, it was sold
that I know there. It was hard to find a seat.
I know that. No, just three three little girls singing.
They're called the squashes, dude win Summer Squash.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
She had herself a little like they were singing together
a cappella style went round all of a sudden, when
singing by herself, I'm like, what, No, this one little
girl did wrap though, and she started hitting him. I
was like, oh my god, Bars yeah, Bars four an
eight year old for sure. It was impressive to see
kind of sat there, just smiled when it was like

(18:11):
staring me down the whole time. She was sticking thinking doing this,
no no, no k pop Demon Hunter. But I'll tell
you what that album hits. Onward back to football. I
just wanted to have that little nugget for you guys.
Dave made me miss that game.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
What were we on? Jar spinner and quitter.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Spending issue going in the NFL. Hey, we can't stand
for it, right voice, hands in? Right, we can't. We
can't stand that. We started space. We need started hands in.
We can't have that in the NFL. Am I right will.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, I agree. I think it's disgusting. I think it's
the lowest of the lows.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
It's the lowest of low. That is that is scumbag move.
It's a scumbag move. You spin on somebody.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
Is there any coming back from speak?

Speaker 1 (18:58):
You can come back?

Speaker 2 (18:59):
What did like? What would you tell as a guy
who's been a spinner before, what would you tell? Jamar
Chase reviewing the tape.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Start a podcast with your best friend and apologize publicly. Okay,
That's what I would do every day every time it
comes up and your boys want to once again kick
you while you're down about spitting own it, Levett, apologize
about it. That being said, TJ. Once again, I am sorry.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
Do you think Jalen Ramsey would ever go on that podcast?

Speaker 2 (19:23):
No? Probably not Yo the way Jalen Ramsey was answering
that question too, like it seems like all he wants
to do is fight Jamar. Now we know this about
I know, but you think you get onside type in
the off season when the receivers or DB's like when
the corners, like when they get when they get together,
they always have this good like you know, they always
have like this rapport, this respectful rapport, like they respect

(19:45):
each other and stuff. It's like, I'm so curious now
if they're going to be around each other in the
off season, there'll.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Be something, man, there'll be something Miami, Houston. Something's gonna
that's the spit right there.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
It was.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
A logis on mouth type of ship. Yeah, yeah, phlamm
in there.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
That's he's drank a lot of gatorade and he had it.
He had it fizzle on up there in the back
of the Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, that is a like a heartburn spitre. The heart
came out of his mouth than he had yards that
game where Dalen said man, Jalen said, Dylon snapped off
like that. Yeah, I can so Jalen fights him. Does
he get ejected from the game? Ejected out of here?

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Because when you when you're watching it go down, and
I'm I'm kind of rewatching the clip without knowing that, uh,
Jamar spit on him. I see it go down. I'm like,
what is Jalen fucking doing?

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
They're kind of sitting there talking. Then Jalen kind of
like punch grabs him in the face masks. They're going back
and forth and Jamar just keeps his hands down the
whole side. I'm like, I wonder what Jamar said to
him to set him off, Like, good on him for
getting him riled up. And he's got the flag and
everything else, right, But now that I see this loogie
getting spit on him, it's.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
On site, it's on side. It's I'll tell you what.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
In the locker room, Jamar like, I ain't spit on nobody.
I don't know my mouth for that guy. It's like
there is a fat loogi coming out of you.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Could have been something else. Did you also didn't know
that there's a video out there?

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah? Games televised.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Games are all televised, dude.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Hell yeah I did spit all over.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I wonder I wonder how that all?
What are you doing in a game? Somebody spits on you.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
I'm telling on him right away.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
You're not fighting out?

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, I'm on pointing at him.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Hey there that you just hear him hawk it up
and then you just open your mouth.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Spit on your chest. You try and like drop your
if I could, Hey, wrath, maybe that's what it is.
You just wiping and fucking lick it.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, I mean that's some psychotic ship that throws off.
He spits on you, he gets ready to square up
with you, and you just fucking like.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
It tastes like a bitch.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Oh you're so cute, man. There's a win. That's a
win right there, that's a win. Tastes like a bitch.
Oh my god, that's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Gates a great way to handle it too, right there,
he's like a bitch.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
JJ McCarthy throws two more. I t's the Vikings loose
to the Bears in nineteen seventeen. Here's what I'll say
about JJ. It's not obviously statistically it's not going great
right now. Watch the film, though, dude. He shows flashes
where he's throwing guys as they're breaking out of their route,
ball placement, certain situations like he has the ability to

(22:45):
be a good quarterback in the NFL. He does, and
we've got her. This is what a six start. So
we're in middle of octobers SNOOKI Oh no, that was
tough to look at. Uh, but yeah, dude, he has
the ability. And now the question is is how long

(23:05):
are the Vikings going to be patient with him? Give
him a chance, because you see it on film. Dude,
He's got a couple of throws here and there, a
couple of drop ones by Addison during that game. Had
a nice one to Addison for a touchdown. Adison, my
favorite fantasy team will take that. He's got the ability.
Now can he mentally overcome some of these blemishes that

(23:25):
continuously happen during the games. Because if you're throwing two
I t's a game, but you're gonna you're gonna run
do an issue that said, you see the touch on
the ball, you see the deep throws every once in
a while. There was one in his last game where
the dude was bringing off to the left and he
throws it. DB's draped all over him and he puts
it in a spot that only receiver catch. You watch
that thrown, you're like, that's an NFL quarterback. But then

(23:46):
you see the stat line, it's like, you know, obviously
it's not what you want. You know, it's not gonna
win you games. It's not gonna make you a playoff
championship caliber team. So we will see, we will see.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah. To me, it's just all patients. I just don't
want to be in the camp where you're like, is
JJ the guy for the Vikings or not. I flirted
with that this year with Caleb Williams. He's had a
season and a half under his belt and the dude
does nothing but show up in the fourth quarter. And yeah,
when it's on script, he looks great. When it's off scripted, Dude,
the way he's able to get mobile and with the
ball round, his talent is unreal.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
How elusive he is, man, Yeah, he is, Like I
know people want to say, like Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen.
As far as elusiveness, I think Caleb is the most
elusive quarterback in the NFL. There are times where he
is guys are draped on him. He is able to
get out of those things. He's way more athletic that
people give him credit for. He's way more quick twitch.
His ability to extend plays I think is one of

(24:36):
one in the NFL right now, especially with the Lamar
We're kind of seeing this series he heard is he's not,
But I think Caleb Williams is the most elusive quarterback
in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, and just the vibe they got right now in Chicago. Again,
people are gonna talk about this schedule, but at the
end of the day, there's seven to three, they're winning games.
They're winning games late like game winning drives with Caleb Williams.
And then you go into the locker room. Ben Johnson here,
the postgame speeches and just how fired up the locker
room is, like they have a lot of momentum right now.
And again going back, like for just the way Cale
Williams has been playing and the way everybody myself included

(25:05):
flirting with this is not the guy for Chicago everything else.
It's like he's had a year and a half of
football to be played and J. J. McCarthy's only at
start five or six, and yeah, he's playing inconsistent, He's
got flashes, and people want a lot more out of him,
which is all justified. But again, it's like you just
you got to give him patience. I have to give
him patience. Dude has had injuries both years, and Minnesota's

(25:27):
just not going to be a team that's in the
playoffs this year. So you know, it's like having that expectation,
you eliminate that expectation. Just hope the kid gets better
as the season goes on.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah, Ben Johnson Coach of the Year nominee. Yeah, has
to be in the conversation.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
He has to be in the conversation. I Kal Devaibel
right now, though, I think so.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah. You know, again, hits his first year and everybody
was saying this is they don't have the roster, they
don't have the team. Hasn't been the head coach before.
Caleb Williams, is he the guy. He's not the guy
for Chicago, And all they've done is get these wins
and they're seven to three then you got what's his name?
Stiking from the Colts.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
You want todds right now?

Speaker 2 (26:04):
What are the odds on FanDuel Grabes.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
Shane stike In, Mike McDonald, Dave Canelis, Ben Johnson, Sean McVay. So,
Ben Johnson plus two thousand might be worth, it might
be worth.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
But on Dave in Carolina, I mean he's doing his
thing down there sneaky eleven weeks into the season that
the Panthers would have had would have a better record
than the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, oh wow, battle that impressively. Yeah yeah, coming from
a Chiefs guy, I'm sure that one hurts us say.

Speaker 7 (26:38):
Is that breaking that Matthew Stafford is now in the
lead for MVP odds?

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Oh yeah, they were tied.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah yeah. Josh Allen, with a big bump.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
To Stafford, is the favorite at plus one thirty five.
Drake May second plus one seventy five, Josh Allen third
plus four fifty, Jonathan Taylor plus nine hundred, Patrick mahomes
is fifth plus two thous and six get Jalen Hurts
plus four thousand.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
There, oh, miss Chiefs guy. The only guy that kind
of holds the Chiefs. Flad and you're saying, get Patrick
Mahomes out of there.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
No, no, no, no, I'm talking about get that fifth place.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
Guy, six, sixth place guy, the number one seed in
the NFC.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
Jalen Hurts should not be in the MVP conversation.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Neither of them. I absolutely agree with that.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, you're one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah. I don't feel like Mahomes should be. You know,
I guess again, if any team can do it, it's
the Chiefs. That's what's going to be the whole the
saying for the rest of the season.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
That is the question.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
They absolutely cannot make the playoffs if the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
If the Chiefs go win six of their last seven,
because they're five and five right now, right, Yeah, if
they win six of their last seven and they do
it in the way the Chiefs have to do it,
which is by Mahomes magic, Is he the MVP of
the season.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
I think Caleb Williams should be in that conversation.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Over Jalen Hurts. I agree, yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
That also Sam Darnold, I know he just did it
for four pigs. He's not He's not in the top three.
But as far as all these odds, like quarterbacks who
have been playing well, like he had a bad game.
What about js N Yeah, Dan Yo, where's yeah Danny Diames?

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Well, he had the one bad game, was it? He
did a buye this week? The week before the won?
So the week before that he had like two three interceptions?

Speaker 2 (28:17):
What's that Jackson Smith and Jig?

Speaker 1 (28:20):
But yeah, what was his stat line?

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Daniel trying to get some easy money from people? Jayleen
Hurt like clumps probably put in the odds on Jalen
Hurt plus four thousand. Yeah, speechless.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
I can't even make.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
A joke off.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
Here's the list extended.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
By the way, So Sammy D's sitting at eight right
now at plus five thousand behind Hurts. Dude, that is
just crazy to me. Jackson Smith and Jig, but he's
waged on the list at plus ten thousand. Can I
get his stat line from yesterday? Can I see that?
Because I was at the sold yesterday when that game
was going on, and when that three thirty slate hit, Dude,

(29:03):
I was like, look at these games. I cannot wait
to sit on this couch and watch. That's when Taylor
he me with, hey, we got this thing today that
I didn't tell you about it, and I was, I
guess that's what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
I can I can, honestly, I can see now why
Stafford's in the league. Like you beat a Seattle defense,
like Seattle's defense three touchdowns, yeah, bro, And that was
a defensive battle like that was That game was fun
to watch.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
How many games in a row does Stafford have three touchdowns?

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, he had two touchdowns only, Like he only had
one hundred and fifty yards and two touchdowns. But against
Seattle's defense, you don't give the ball away, like you
don't throw an interception. I can see. Yeah, I can see,
like why they have him as a front runner.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
I mean, Stafford through for one thirty.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Because you're gonna bring schedules into it.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah. And Stafford the way that they beat Seattle, how is.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
He continuously open down the field line receptions in one
hundred and five yards. That is just mind blowing to me. Yeah,
smooth bro. Like he has got some crisp movements.

Speaker 5 (29:59):
They were talking about it on the broadcast. He has
forty six percent of the target share, so that means
like forty six percent of the passes are going to him.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, which man Sammy d had Rashid Shaheed yesterday in
the end zone and just under throw them a little
bit really to where the corner was just long enough
to get his hand on it. But dude, Shaheed beat
this dude off the line of scrimmage and his speed
getting to the end zone, it was just earlier. Yeah,
that's one where it's like it's week two Rashid being

(30:28):
on the roster, right, Sammy trying to figure him out
a little bit. But speed man, Yeah, this.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
Guy's that fast.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, it is awesome the way like we'll get to
college football. And I know that the chaos has kind
of like slowed down a little bit with the chaos
possibilities in college football with what happened this past weekend.
But as much as that's kind of gone down in
the NFL, it's getting spicy and that who's going to
be that six seven in the playoffs?

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, I think the chaos is has picked up in
college football.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
You were saying before, I know you're you're a big
like just like a bracketeer, Like I I lean on
the Will Compton expanse to kind of give me the
lay of the land. Then you walked in the billion
to day ago Texas ruin the chaos. So I just
go in my head like I guess the chaos is
kind of slowing down in college football because I love
to hear about it. But I'm not a guy that's like,
you know, in there with the yarn ball on the
coreboard trying.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I should have said Texas ruined maximum chaos.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Maximum chaos, maximum maxims. We'll get to that.

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Ten football and football fans everywhere. Let's get back to
this recap.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Well, we should talk about heartbreak hotel or optimistic loss
Titans Texans. I know it's kinda like that. This is
I mean, this is chaos, and it's we live in Nashville, Tennessee.
We obviously the two biggest Tennessee Titans fans sitting over here.
We both played for the Titans. So obviously, like every
Sunday when they play, you're gonna keep You're gonna watch

(33:32):
it a little bit. You're gonna make sure you keep tabs.
Jeff Simmons is back. Obviously are an absolute wrecking ball.
Defense is ten times better when he's in it. But
give me your guys' thoughts, because we're looking at Tennessee
Titans that are the number one overall pick right now
and then the next one, six seven, I don't know
why I keep saying that, dude. The next five or
six teams are like two win teams, so we're kind

(33:54):
of in this like you could be the first overall
pick or like the eighth. It's very interesting dynamics taking place.
Love to hear from the Nashville Boys about where their
hearts are at, their minds are at when it comes
to the future of this franchise.

Speaker 6 (34:05):
I'll let Jack take the bulk of it. But you
earlier saying that you want to lose to have a
draft pick, Pa earlier this morning.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
I think it's a it's a if you look at
long term, you don't want as a player, ask as
a player, if I am in that, if I'm in
that locker room, the only thing that matters to me
is winning. Sitting on a bus, you're not playing in
Cabo right now, if you're in that locker room. No.
I was never that guy ever ever. Ever. I'll believe
I was also too young to like get to that
experience by the time, Like when I was older and

(34:39):
now those thought those those uh, those bad thoughts could
creep in. We were like in playoff hunts, winning and such.
So but I like to believe I would never I
remember being the first two years and these guys talking
about Cabbo and being like, these fucking guys don't like
this is football, Like you need to understand, like this
is all we got type of mentality. Yeah, they these
older guys might be looking at that way and and

(34:59):
ten see. But as a player, you want to win
every single game. If I'm looking at it strictly from
what is going to give us the fastest and clearest
path to becoming a successful franchise in the NFL, that
answer would be having the one pick. When you have
the one pick and you have your first overall pick
last year, being the quarterback, you have a big opportunity

(35:20):
to play teams against each other, had that game of chess,
that house of cards, like we're smoking mirrors, where you
gain a lot of more draft equity or liquidity, and
you're able to bounce back a few spots to get
the guy you still want, setting yourself up for years
down the road. You have to pick. You have to
pick him right. But I'm just saying from a managerial standpoint,
looking at this team, the best move is to have

(35:41):
the first overall pick player throw everything. I just said
out the window. You want to win games regardless.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Depend unless you're event Like the older guys in that
locker room, everybody's absolutely planning their offseason planes.

Speaker 6 (35:52):
I don't think Big Jeff is, though he seems pissed.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Jeff is in a very unique situation.

Speaker 6 (35:58):
He's the oldest guy on the team.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
He's he's the longest tenured guy on the team. Yeah,
he is in a contract ish year like he wants.
He sees all these contracts happening. He comes in, body
looks phenomenal, His body of work is incredible. He gets
a little injured, Like Jeff is fighting for the team
to win, no doubt, because he's a competitor. But he's
also like that checkbook, like what that bank account look like,

(36:21):
because he knows where he the level he's playing at
right now. He's underpaid and you have a you have
a you know, a quarterback that's in the first contract.
He's in his first contract, so you don't have all
this crazy money being flown to the quarterback. He's in
a good position to get broken the fuck off by
the Titans.

Speaker 6 (36:37):
Yeah, I just would like for us to go for
two at the end there, Like, what do you have
to lose, go for the win.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Me. If I'm a fan, you want to win. You
want to win as many games as possible. But if
you're sitting there the last game of the season and
it's already you know you've lost every game. What's the
Titans record right now?

Speaker 1 (36:56):
One and one and nine.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
If you're sitting there at one in one night, at
one in fifteen playing the Jets, what's the Jets record
right now?

Speaker 1 (37:04):
I think if they're state loss their two win team.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Let's say you guys are both two and fourteen playing
the last game of the season. If I'm a fan,
it's a last game of season, you're two and fourteen,
I would be hopeful that we lose so that way
you can have the number one over the See.

Speaker 6 (37:17):
Yeah, I would rather be beat straight up than to
lose the way we lost yesterday.

Speaker 8 (37:23):
I'll never be a fan that wishes for my team
to lose. I will never be a fan that wishes
right team to lose. For the optimists say, yes, you
can spin a positive like notion on it after you've lost.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
McKay, at least we have the number one pick. But
we're playing a.

Speaker 8 (37:37):
Divisional game in Nashville. And it goes down to a
last second field goal. If you're a Titans fan wishing
that the Texans win, go fuck yourself. You're not a
Titans fan. And right now, the way the NFL works,
the number one pick one is a lottery ticket. You
have no idea who you're gonna get to. The way
that the league it works, it is not like it

(37:58):
was ten years ago. Pick one and pick three, four
and five can all be same.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
There are guys who were six.

Speaker 8 (38:06):
Round picks that are better than the first round picks.
Each year there's a first round pick that goes to
the Hall of Fame. There's also a first round pick
that's a bus and leaves the league in two years.
I'm not like, I'm not devastated that we lost on
a last second field goal. There's positives a spin, but
I'm in that stadium wishing that we beat the Texans
because it's a divisional game. I despise the Texans. They

(38:29):
were flooding our city. Losing does not build culture. What
our team lacks is culture. We have nothing to stand
on there, so we need sometimes those kind of wins.
And yeah, I look, there's an argument where if it's
the last Game of the Year, and you know it's
basically the loser is gonna get the first round pick.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
That's something.

Speaker 8 (38:49):
There's still a handful of games left to.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Where I don't want to conversation.

Speaker 8 (38:53):
But yeah, it's brutal to take that loss to a
divisional game. And I just I hate when Will bank
on the tanking aspect because you have no idea what's
going to play out. We had the first round pick
right now we have there's so many issues. A win
could do our city a lot of good. You just
need guys to buy in more. And yeah, Big Jeff

(39:15):
was fucking furious. There are a lot of weird calls
to the I mean that game was excruciatingly boring up
until about ten minutes left.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
That's the thing about your team, though, if you're if
your team is boring to watch, it's still your team,
So every play is exciting. It's the person that's not
a fan of the Titans, washingt Titans, being like, why
the fuck are we watching the Titans.

Speaker 8 (39:37):
I mean, it was not it was not excited to
watch at all.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
It was three to zero until the third quarter and
then it was six. So it's just yeah, yeah, I'm
with you when as many as you can. My question
is more of like, if you get to the last
last game and both teams are, say they're tied two
and fourteen, you're almost like because again you're like, yeah,
you're right, it's a lottery ticket. You never know who's
gonna win what. But Tennessee and knowing that they have

(40:02):
their quarterback of the future, you have the first overall pick.
There's a team out there that wants a quarterback badly,
so you have a leverage to get more draft capital.

Speaker 5 (40:11):
For sure, if it's the Jets, Like if you have
the number two overall pick and they have the one
they need a quarterback, you know they're gonna take a quarterback.
Whoever you want is still gonna be there, So I
feel like you're right.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
But if you're a team layer in the round and
you want a quarterback and you want a deal, you're
gonna call the first overall pick in the draft, knowing
that the Jets are sitting right there they want a quarterback, Hey,
we need to go up and get our guy. We
think he's the guy. You pick up the phone and
call Tennessee, and that's when you start wheeling and dealing yea,
and Tennessee could be in a spot to where they
have the leverage to shot that first overall pick.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
The huge positive that the Titans are sitting in right
now is if you do have a top five pick,
you're one of probably you're one of the only teams
that don't need a quarterback. You've picked your quarterback. So
if you're sitting at one, Jets are two they need
a quarterback. Miami will ply need a quarterback. The Saints
upoly need a quarterback. Who else am I forgetting about?
Minis Minnesota?

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (41:04):
But honestly, if it keeps going that way, Minnesota might
want a quarterback. It just depends on the I mean
the yeah what Will Howard? Yeah Will how But.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Still you never know.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
You have all these teams right behind you that one
a quarterback, and there's going to be two, maybe three
guys that guys look at they're like, this is our dude.
Frenanda Mendoza, Dante Moore, Ty Simpson is another individual, and
it's like, if you know your guy is insert one
of those names, you have to call the number one
pick to ensure you're going to get that guy. That's

(41:34):
where as a Titans fan and the ability to look
at you like, we need the number one over one pick.
Is if you're sitting at three, four or five, your
leverage is now gone and you're able to get multiple
first round picks for the future because they're taking a
massive game. Wele that this is our quarterback for the future,
that's what we want. And then you pull back to five,
you have two extra picks going to the next year,

(41:55):
and you're able to get Caleb Downs, who's the first
person that's sitting on the screen in front of us,
or this tackle which I don't think you think it
tackle dude.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Carson back.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
You take a quarterback, two Miami quarterbacks back to back.
But you're able, you're able to get your guy and
draft draft capital. That's where and then again, Jack, everything
you're saying, there's always there's gonna be a Hall of
Fame guy in there. There's gonna be a bust in there.
That's what the draft is. It is the lottery. You're
gonna find out, Hey, how good is our front office.
That's why you pay them all the money. That's what
this guy came from the Chiefs to make those decisions.

(42:27):
But you get the guy you want, you get this
Jordan Tyson KIF from Arizona State or whoever it is.
It's like, holy shit, look at the pieces we're putting together.
Free agency was a few months before that. You can
make a huge turnaround, fit faster having the first too
overall pick.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
We're talking to Jack right now. There's still a handful
of games left, handful.

Speaker 8 (42:44):
Of guys, handful of games.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
The seven games left.

Speaker 8 (42:49):
Yeah, I think one through four.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
We're talking about. We're talking about leverage. That's all we're
talking about. You win the games, that's great. But now
you're sitting at three four five, well one two and
three one four. They want a quarterback. You're not in
a position to be like, you want your guy. You
can come up right to here and we'll move back
through four spaces.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (43:07):
I mean, like, look, I'm not upset that we lost, obviously,
like parties like dang wish we would have. But in
the moment in that game, there's no part of me that.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Is actively rooting for us to lose.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
I agree, and that's how you should be done.

Speaker 8 (43:19):
I sit here on the bus, I'm like, hey, we're good.

Speaker 5 (43:21):
One game whatever.

Speaker 8 (43:23):
Man, it'd be great if we get the number one pick.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
I would love that.

Speaker 8 (43:25):
We're obviously in a continual rebuild right now. But yeah,
I'm not going to actively root against my team ever.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
The the win that you guys are, the situation you
guys have is if you don't get the right coaching. Yeah, oh,
it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Where it starts.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Where's we If we don't get the right coaching, we're fucked.
I know, absolutely cooked done.

Speaker 8 (43:47):
McCoy's most likely finishing out the rest of the season.
But yeah, it's there's a lot. And uh, I drove
by the new stadium.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
For the first time.

Speaker 8 (43:59):
Damn Jack first, I mean, is this not close enough
to not for Mitch? I mean, so if I'm I
don't even know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
You by the new stadium. You drove by the new
stadium for the first time.

Speaker 8 (44:12):
Yeah, anyways, the stadium is starting to look beautiful. They
put it all the glass windows, which is really nice.
And you know, time is ticking twenty twenty seven. If
we don't have stuff figured out, it's if you think
the conversations we've been having this year is Titans fans
are are difficult. Just wait until we're in a really
shiny new plate toy box and we are god awful.

(44:33):
It's not gonna be good, but we have time.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
But we have time. The way you looked up at
me and set time, man, I felt that. Hope it's
on Amy.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
She she's got a How about Olaine Kiffin? I do
not want a college coach.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Shut it down, Yeah, shut it down.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
You want to get Joey Freshwater back in Nashville.

Speaker 8 (45:00):
Yeah, Way too many Bachelor at parties out there for
Joey Freshwater to just be running around. Way too many
noon games first Sunday, to have the empty slates Sunday night,
go out, do whatever you want. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
I mean it'd be exciting, aren't there. Muzzy Smith, Dude,
I'm telling you one hate it. You gotta have a
guy in here that understands the process. What what?

Speaker 2 (45:30):
What?

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Oh? Yeah, yeah you get you get the head coach
he brings in his guys. But yeah, dude, it's tough
because you guys, you're not picking from the top either.
The Giants are gonna get their first pick who else
who else fired their coach? Dolphins most likely will fire
their coach. Who knows if the fancy is gonna be there?
In the Browns, I'm putting in the one. Let's move on.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Hey, how about the Niners man once again, Man Brockerty
sneaky three lost team sneaky, Kyle Shan sneaky in that
Coach of the Year conversation, I know, and pretty ball
two hundred yards three touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, yeah, he did have a great catch, dude, the Niners,
and yeah, party, this is the biggest story to come
out of there is all the question marks of his
Mac Jones, the guy I'm fired up for party fired,
friend of the show.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yeah, friend of the show.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Yeah he Actually they could be a team that peaks
at the right time too, Yeah, because they're still getting
all used to each other and having healthy guys back
on offense. Obviously defense is injured. But y'all know, it's
all about peaking at the right time, and they definitely
are far from peaking.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Far from peaking.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
And the NFC West is crazy too.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Yeah, it really is. Even I mean, I know the
Cardinals got decimated. I don't I don't even watch their game.
Oh they played the four Nights. I know they got
decimated at the Seahawks three before, and they didn't do
well here. But they are like sneaky competitive at times.
Brissett had a couple of nice balls out there.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
There's just a handful of teams out there that can
ruin your Sunday, like the Dolphins, the Cardinals, like they
could pull off and win against any good team. And
it's Panthers. Takes everything else.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah, they got the Panthers. Stay at the Browns. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Can you bring up the NFC standings?

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Are we can we just get a thought on the Seahawks.
Do we think less of them is a team now
because they lost to the Rams?

Speaker 2 (47:28):
No?

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Okay, I feel the same exactly.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Four interceptions, miss winning field.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Goal and had an opportunity to win it at the end.
I I think they played that game again. I'm taking
the Seahawks.

Speaker 5 (47:39):
I think the Seahawks won or lost that game more
than the Rams won it.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah, I mean the four picks and uh as bad
as the situations that they were in the way the
defense was showing up around the goal line. It was cinema, Bro.
You're talking about just goal line defense, Bro, It's nuts
like that. It's just man verse.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
Man.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
You get picks and you're kind of pinned like you're
just in a brutal spot. You're at a disadvantage, like
when the offense is like down inside of your own
thirty or twenty and it's like, all right, boys, you
gotta strap up and play and just to either you know,
hold them to a field goal, bail them out, whatever
it is. Like that's a it's just a massive win.
And it's fun watching defenses like a defense like Seattle
fly around and still take pride and not feel like,

(48:22):
oh fuck, we threw a pick, like they're probably gonna
go in and score.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Yeah, there's nothing more like momentum changing than getting a
pick inside your own fifty. But there's nothing more deflating
as a team than when that pick happens and you
guys go three and out. Yeah, the point that might
be worse than the momentum shift of getting the pick. Yeah,
Like the other team's like, yo, it kind of doesn't
matter what we do on offense, Like our defense came
to fucking play to this. Yeah, that's the kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
And the Rams defense was flying around as well, Like
I just enjoyed watching that game, like both defenses. The
way the young defensive line for the Rams got after
Sam Darnold, like getting pressure to him, like getting fast
in his face, he's throwing balls. DB's already breaking on
the ball picking it off. Yeah, these two teams, I
don't think any less. I don't think any less of a.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Oh we have a tier talk right here from uh
at nutty X professor Jeremy Clump. Now that Will Compton
is one and seven betting against the Philadelphia Eagles on
the locker room, will he stop betting against them? Hashtag
tear tongue.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Look, I've taken an ass beating against the Philadelphia Eagles.
I've been I've personally been chasing ghosts like things that
I think are there with Philadelphia everybody has. They're not
showing up. Like that game last night against the Lions
did not go at all the way I thought I would.
What were the Lions like zero for five on fourth
down and every time they kept missing. There's one time
I'm like, man, just just kick a field goal. Yeah, yeah,

(49:40):
I think they're on the four yard line and went
for it on fourth and four and I'm like, I
just I guess take the points here. I know Greg
Olsen hates that, but yeah, look, I'm a loser betting
against the Philadelphia Eagles right now. That's the only thing
that I can say, like, I still think their offense
is average, their defense is elite. They play like this
the rest of the year. Jordan Dave Tavis, Jalen Carter, Cooper, Dejeen,

(50:02):
even a Dory Jackson played a good game last night, Quinnon, Mitchell, Reid,
Blanket Ship, Zach Bond, Jalen Phillips, Campbell, the linebacker from Bama.
The way that that unit played last night against the Lions,
who is arguably one of they are one of the
best offenses in the NFL. The way they shut them down,
it was impressive. And again they just they do enough
on offense. But I've been taking an absolute ass beating

(50:25):
against the Eagles this year. I'm a loser betting against
the Eagles. I like the Cowboys this weekend.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
I was gonna say, you're in a unique spot because
the minute you go away from the Eagles or go
towards Eagles and like join the bandwagon, that's when they lose.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Yeah. They're like, look, we don't want you over and
I'm like, listen, I'm not going over there. Your time
will come. It just hasn't happened yet. You stuffed it
down my throat. But right now Yeah, they've spent spitting
in my mouth. They've been giving after the Jamar Chase
Lugi's just going down my throat.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
God, bless man. They really I don't understand it at
this point. It's just like, yeah, we just gotta assume
they're gonna keep winning and then pray they lose in
the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
We're forgetting the biggest factor of the Philadelphia Eagles, Big Dom,
who set up the meeting between Jeff Brellerry and AJ Brown.
He's the godfather of Philadelphia. He's he said, Aj don't
go against the family anymore. I think the Eagles they
needed Big Dom to do that.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
There. Who is the report that broke that down? Sal
sal pal Yeah, sal Palell the way he was breaking
it down. Darana Versini writes a piece on Jalen Hurts
on what's going on inside that offense and I'm thinking
bingo and but yeah, uh salth sal Palell breaks it
down like a meeting that happened last Thursday between Aj
and the owner on the field. He's like, it is
thirty years of covering this team, he's never seen anything

(51:45):
like it, and a lot of the credit goes under
the radar, but he goes by all these different titles
like operations, director of this, assistant head coach, yeah, all
the stuff. It's Big Dom and he's like, this is
the Godfather saying hey, you gotta stop going against the family.
Message was received, But yeah, Big Tom is out there
putting out fires day in and day out with Phildelp.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Big Domb, Big Dom. Good guy to have his number
on your phone luckily. Oh yeah, yeah, he's worth giving
a call to this week. He's worth giving a call.
Should have him on the bus when he retires, bro,
he will absolutely be on the buck. He said he's
down some of the things he was telling us that
that can't he could say half of those things. He's

(52:30):
got have to. Like, if you're the Eagles, you're like,
do not go on that podcast? And they would call
him be like he can't go. We would have to
sit there and be like we absolutely understand and agree.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
How do we even know that the Eagles can tell
him what to do? He tells the Egles exactly.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
He is the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Yeah, he's one of them.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Maybe he owns the team. We just don't know it.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
He is. Yeah, he's the shot calling.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
For real. They go, they go, and win it.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
This year.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
It's like, you just got to put a Dom up. Man,
just put up a domb at every Philly Chief steak
spot in Philly. God damn Dom is the man. And
I love how he was getting so much hate too,
Like he was kicked out of a game was against
the Giants last year. He was like, kicked out of
game forty suspended. People started hanging like this guy, he's
a fucking he's a twoke. He's just ripping around doing whatever.

(53:19):
And then this year happens and I was like, oh no,
this guy is actually the reason why it's keeping all
these unique personalities together. While Sirian's was like, We're just
gonna keep winning. She's gonna keep winning, Big Dom man.
How about the Ravens man, what's their deal? What is
their fucking deal? They're gonna keep winning. They're gonna win
the AFC North Bareley beat the Browns. Should there Sanders

(53:39):
place put up an absolute stat line four for sixteen
forty seven yards in an interception.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
That's his uh, look, welcome to the NFL moment. He's
got one forging fires.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
And when Stefansi goes all right, put him in, He's
like I'm about to light these motherfuckers up. He was like,
this is the time people are finally gonna find out
about me. Then go your way, Bob, but listen, keep swinging.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Yeah, full week of preparation, he'll, you know, depending on
Dylan Gabriel in the concussion protocol and everything else. But
him having a full week of preparation. Is him going
to be the guy?

Speaker 1 (54:14):
The guy?

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Yeah? Is he going to be the guy? I could
see a TJ. Latif game coming out right here. He
gets thrown in at USC kind of like, oh, you know,
he had there's a weird little stat line. Then boom,
it goes out to l c A, u C l
A and Wrexham. It can be Sanders next week.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
But also the few games he did play in bald
didn't He's played in one game, but he did well.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yeah, after he went into USC and kind of fumbled
a one that we were going to take to the house,
kind of like oh, we're gonna you know, miss Roola,
Like t J. Latif? Can he play the rest of
the year? What a game are we about to end
six and six or whatever the record would have been.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
What a game the Browns have coming up at the Raiders.
He's gonna be all fit games to call some chaos
and that.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Legacy game.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Legacy game.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
I'm rooting for him. I hope he goes on.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
I hope he does too.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
Good question on what do you think about he got
sacked like for the first time and Hamilton hit the shador.
I saw Twitter going off about how it's crazy that
he's done nothing in the NFL, but still NFL defenders
still want to like mock his celebration and stuff.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
I mean, he was so he was so polly.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
I mean, that's just think that's the game, bro.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Yeah, kim ca. A lot of people, even when they're
not playing the Titans. I've seen a couple of guys hit
one of those and it's.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Like, oh, I think that's a new one.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
But yeah, swag a swag dude.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Yeah, that stuff goes like you got defensive players doing it,
like that's like the new first down. Yeah, I feel
like people hit that on first down. Now we got
all these celebrations that happened after. Yeah, but yeah, that's like, uh,
you sacked and welcome to the NFL. Stand up over him.
Give the shitter, Sanders as you should hit the seally yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Yeah. We had a game in twenty fifteen when Zach
Bennenberg got maybe fourteen. Zach Mettenberger got the start against
the Titans and he's had a snapchat and a snapchat
is him with the head band and the must and
the caption is this is my fucking team now, and
it's like one of those JJ Watt sacked him in
the game, hit him with the selfie. So pettiness goes.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
A long way.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Yeah, dude, it was.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Yeah, it was like a little piece of news hitting
around like, Zach Mettenberger.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Do you have the standings? Sure? Yes.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
One thing we should talk about with the Browns too,
is just Miles Garrett defensive Player of the Year, like
clear favor right now, had another monster game.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
He is how many sex they have in the year
fourteen uh fifteen double digits straight season?

Speaker 2 (56:37):
I mean, Miles Garrett is a.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Freak freak bro and he handles his pressers so well.
How he sits there and they're like he was he
would trade all five of those sacks for one win.
It's like that's exactly what you need to do to
ball out. Like if he sat there and was like
I'm the man, It's like fuck, dude, you guys are losing.
But he's just handling things so well.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Right, you can bring up just the NFC standings, not
the division.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
NFC standings mm.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Hmm yeah, hit conference. Who you got? Uh? Who you
got making the playoffs right now?

Speaker 1 (57:18):
That's a great question. Without looking at schedules, I see
I see the Packers dropping out and the lines being
where they're at.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
You think the Packers don't make the playoffs?

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Well, I forgot that Bears are winning their division right now?

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Is there a playoff picture one term? If you scroll
up on ESPN.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
The top eight.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Yeah, it's just hit a hit playoff next to standings. Yeah,
it breaks down the breakers.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Yeah, Ok, the same exact, same exact thing.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
I love.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
I love the Bears and how they've been playing. I
don't see them winning that division. I see the Lions
winning that division, and then it's between the Bears and
the Packers. I think, who gets that? That's the wildcard spot?
I could I could absolutely see the Panthers sneaking into
a wildcard wildcard spot.

Speaker 5 (58:26):
You do not want to play, right, Yeah?

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Because like the NFC West, I think is the number
one division. I can see three coming out.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Yeah, I see I see, yeah, I see them NFC
West having three teams in there with the Niners, the
Rams in Seattle, then you got the Eagles, then you
got the Bucks. But again it's like, what's gonna happen
with the Bucks and the Panthers. But I have the
Bucks winning that division, and then it's yeah, I still

(58:58):
got the Packers in it. I still got Packers and Lions.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Packers and Lions. So you're saying one of those NFC
West teams fall out.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Yeah, I would say the Niners fall out.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
The weird thing about the Niners is they are a
team that last couple of years have been hurt, and
they just get more and more hurt. This is the
first year they like started really hurt and they're getting
more and more healthy. Like Kittle goes down early in
the year, he's now back. Purdy goes down earlier in
the year, he's now back. So I wonder if like
they're gonna if they're having their starters kind of come
back in the fold less try taking off the tires

(59:35):
of the season. I could see them making a jump
as before the last couple of years, you've seen them
kind of scale down a little bit. And then the Packers. Bro,
it's weird because the Lions do what they did against
the Eagles, but the Eagles. At this point, you just
have to you just got to bend the knee and
be like, Bro, you guys are really the best team
in the NFC right now. Until somebody says differently, you've
beaten the Lions, you've beaten the Rams. They haven't played

(59:57):
the Seahawks. Correct, they haven't played the Seahawks. But like
transit of property theory, whatever Peyton wants to talk about,
like you beat the Rams, the Rams beat you. So
that's what it is. I have more trust in the
Lions than I do in the Packers. So I see
the Packers falling away. I see the forty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Ers, right, I see the Lions winning the division. I'm saying,
if it's the last spot out of the Packers in
the Niners, I just give the nod. I just give
the nod to the Packers.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Let's pull up the Packers schedule. Packers schedule, and I
want to pull up and then we'll do the Niners schedule.

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
If the if you have the Lions winning, that means
the Bears will be another team fighting for that spot
then too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
I just don't see how right a three way fight
between Packers, Bears, Niners.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Yes, all right, so the Packers got to play the Vikings.
We can, we can. We're gonna say that to win
the Lions redemption game in Detroit. I see Detroit winning
that game at Denver. So those next two games December
seventh and December twentieth against the Bears, I think that's
we're gonna find out who's gonna who's gonna be that
third because the Bears they've been hot right now and

(01:01:03):
the Packers are so they're touching. Go man, it's very odd. Broncos,
I mean the Broncos, like, I can't hate on them anymore.
Ravens are very interesting. Packers got a hard little deal.
Go pull up the forty nine ers because they've already
played Seattle once. They've already played the Rams, beat the Rams.

(01:01:24):
They play the Rams twice.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Yeah, yes, played the Rams twice.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Okay, forty nine Ers Panthers. Let's just say when Browns win,
Titans win, Colts loss, Bears will find out, Seattle will
find out. Seems like an easier path for the forty
nine ers.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Yeah, it'll be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
So you give the nod to the I give the
nod to the pack the Niners over the Packers.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
How about the how about the AFC.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Let's go to the AFC. You're on the same page
of the Niners.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
I still like the Packers. Okay, I'm just thinking the
Packers somehow find a way.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
They just gotta get more consistent.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Yeah, because they have a team. B Yeah, it wasn't
that bad.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Okay, Denver's now sitting at Nember one. I see Denver
winning the AFC West. I see the Patriots winning the East,
yet the Colts win the South. The Ravens I still
believe are going to come and take over the Steelers
and those that the Steelers earlier in the year. I
think they I think they go and get that done.

(01:02:26):
They're another team as well. That reminds me of the
the Niners. They're like injured, depleted, They're in a winter
go home situation the rest of the year, and they're
just continuing to find ways to win. Pittsburgh is very
inconsistent from there, from an offensive standpoint and from a
defensive standpoint, like they played well last week or this
or yesterday. Who knows what's gonna happen to be after that.
The Bills are a wild card team.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
The Chargers, so Broncos, Patriots, Colts, who you got winning
the AFC North you got.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
I'm gonna take the Ravens. I'm gonna take the Ravens
in that. So they bump up Ravens and now you
have the two wildcards, the two wildcard spots.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
I'm gonna go Bills and I'm gonna go Jaguars.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Hold on, there's three there, right, five six seven, five
six seven in your wildcard spots. So you have three spots.
And I'm telling you, bro Kansas City Chiefs like Jacksonville Jaguars,
we both have different opinions on them. Too inconsistent, the
Chargers too inconsistent. The thing that is, like, if anyone's

(01:03:33):
gonna do, it's gonna be the Chiefs. I agree with
that because the Chiefs have shown success for so long.
And if you're gonna take the Chargers, the Jags and
the Chiefs and be like, hey, which one of these
teams makes it out into January in the playoffs, You've
got to sit there and say, Chiefs, Now, the Chiefs
already a if you lose again, fucked maybe not that

(01:03:55):
it was the Jags. Bro, the Jags are six and four,
like they break.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
I think there'll be so many things that matter when
the Steelers and the Ravens play the final game of
the season, because if the Chiefs are sitting where you're thinking,
like you know, it's almost like whichever team loses that
might just thrust the Chiefs in based on record alone,
because Chiefs would have to end the year like, let's
just say they lose to the Colts. They don't lose
another game. They're ten and six, yeah, man, because they

(01:04:28):
got the Broncos again.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Oh Chiefs, Yeah, Chiefs at home. That game is another
game I look at and I'm like, that gets played, it,
that gets played again. I think the Chiefs win that
game at this moment, Christmas on JP's birthday. All right,
let's hit a couple of two. We're hold on, let's
set wildcard. What were you thinking, Chiefs don't make it? Yeah,

(01:04:52):
I don't think that she gets the Chargers into the
Jagson there, so you like the way it sits right now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
It's hard for me to say the Chargers after that
ass open against the Jags that they'll be in it.
To me, It's like it could come down. It's gonna
come down to what the Chargers or you know, Chargers, Steelers, Ravens,
Charger Steelers, Ravens. Who knows what the Texans? I mean,
they have an elite defense. They could still squeak out
these weird wins, just like they did against the Titans.

(01:05:19):
They got the Bills this week. I mean, you don't
know what's gonna happen in that game.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Right, The Bills have to show level consistency too.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Yeah, as far as run.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Texans are just so inconsistent and they just shoot themselves
in the foot and they not there's not there's not
a place you can go that's where the Texans gonna
win the game. Yeah, yeah, there run game is not strong.
They're like they're not great at passing. Nico Collins go blue.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Did you see? Did you see? Steelers Darnell Washington absolutely
beat the hell out of the entire Cincinnati defense, doing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Exactly what he was drafted to do. There is Wes
de voy at West de boy eleven says, don't Washington
meets Will Compton in the out in the flat? How
bad is Will's concussion? That's what's what it says hashtag
tear talk. So this guy's can cuss running about you
getting concussed.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Yeah, yeah, there'll be a casualty.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Who's getting the casualty.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
I think it's gonna be one of those situations where
he runs through my face and says night night, motherfucker.

Speaker 8 (01:06:21):
Like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
You is it a tackle though?

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Yeah, of course I'm gonna trip him up. It's gonna
look a lot like what was his name, Rob Kowski
from the Packers where he ran me over, but it
was you know, solo solo, Yeah, stat.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Sheet Yeah, yep, yep, Internet dude, it comes and goes hey.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
In the second effort to by the Bengals defender, horrendous
dude was scared going to run into him. Yeah, kind
of like threw his shoulder and they're like, man, I'm
about to get killed. Smoked.

Speaker 6 (01:06:49):
There's an angle. Uh when he's running down the sideline
and that last guy that comes up to make a
play and he looks like he comes up to his waist.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Yeah, he's like six Stop saying that that's how he's
six seven.

Speaker 6 (01:07:03):
We're gonna get a counter on you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
He's a tight end and he weighs more than I
ever did.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Yeah, Jed Keeley or hashtag tear to Gruden to Atlanta
is raheem on the hot seat.

Speaker 5 (01:07:13):
I mean they're three and seven right now, and he
seems like a great coach. I feel like he'd be
great guy for sure. If he does, unfortunately get canned,
I think he'd be a good.

Speaker 6 (01:07:23):
Fit in Pennix also is done for the season, breaking.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Oh really, Pennic's done for the season. Kirk Thuggans second opinion,
kirkle Thuggans, what do you do me? I know, yeah, yeah,
the knee injury thing for him getting fired. I don't
know who made the call on drafting him when they
had Kirk, but he's always had knee problems, so that

(01:07:49):
could get someone. I think what you'll see with Kirk
is some more under center. I agree the whole time
b Jon season man.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Finally, I mean he had a game, yes today, well fantasy,
I think he got be like twenty nine points. He
went off. But Drake loant to do. Drake Lennon might
be the most underrated receiver.

Speaker 4 (01:08:06):
In the Drake Lennon's banged up too, right, Yeah, he is.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
My whole my whole fantasy team is slowly we just
keep winning, but we are losing guys. Every single week.
We just lose somebody. Yeah, we feel good boys about
the recap.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Yeah, feel good? All right, awesome, shout out Philly fans,
shut out Philly. But like I was telling Clump too,
Like I was telling Clump if we were in the
war room, like al kaieda to me, like priority number
one was the Kansas City Chiefs. They've always been the
number one priority. We've we're taking Chiefs Kingdom down. It's
taken a few years. No one said it'd be easy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Well, yeah, I mean, how long did it take to
get a song? But London.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Six seven? Yeah, I mean, bro but Broncos country. We
are writing shout out demon for that that edit last night.
It's going nuts right now, shut out.

Speaker 8 (01:08:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Yeah, you can't honestly think that the Broncos are everything. Yeah,
I can always, Hey I do. We do have to
give a little credit to comp like he had. He's
had six or seven calls this year where it's like,
oh ship, like he kind of pulled that ship out

(01:09:18):
of thin air and it just ended up. You had one.
You've had multiple in the college football, but also in
the NFL where yeah, we're like this team is gonna
lose this weekend. Everyone but you is on that team.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
And then one week when everybody's like, oh will Hayston Chiefs,
I'm like, I got the Chiefs against the Lions this
week game.

Speaker 6 (01:09:38):
Yeah, you stand on enough hills.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
One of them is not.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Yeah, look you'll get your It was undoubtedly a shotgun
theory got like he's just throwing ship the wall and
seeing what sticks. But like we got to kind of
appreciate what has stuck this year. It's been impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
Patriots, Broncos.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Yeah, yeah, the Broncos one.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
The Bronco one to me is like, uh but honestly,
like when when teams have like really to like on
a bad Thursday night game, they'll usually turn it around,
Like they did play abysmal against the Raiders, and it's like, oh,
this is gonna be peak everybody across the board Chiefs.
But the Broncos defense is so fucking elite, dude, Like
they played out of their mind against the Chiefs, and

(01:10:19):
it's like, you know, you just you trust the professionalism.
Vote bow Knicks to watch the film hard and like
eliminating some of their penalties that they've been getting in
the first half are in crucial situations.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
And they went down to the first game all season
they went down their first points on the board.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Yeah, and this team knows that. Everybody down down some too.
You see everybody in the post game, dude, you know,
buddy saying, hey, if you're gonna say something about bow Nicks,
kind of standing on the hill for bot Nicks. Then
you see what's his name, the left tackle or the
tackle for the Broncos. He's like, what are they going
to say about us now? Like they're they're motivated. They
hear all this outside noise and for a team to

(01:10:55):
be what are they nine to two right now to
have that type of motivation.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Yeah, the Patriots who are one in two and the
Broncos are not two, but two complete different storylines taking
place on how people are viewing them as teams. Everyone's like, look,
how amazing Mike vrabel Is, Drake may Is play an
unbelievable level. Like this defense is like all of a
sudden come together, and the Broncos are like, they start slow,
they find a way to win at the end. They're
only good in the fourth quarter. All things that have

(01:11:19):
come out of my mouth and they just they just
win Man and.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Bo Nicks of the first over his first two seasons,
the most fourth quarter comeback wins in NFL history. What
a how many is he at? Listen? I don't know
the numbers, I just know the statements.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
But if you had a guess and the numbers, what
would it be?

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Six?

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Speaker 8 (01:11:58):
Alane Johnson out four to six weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Better than being out six to seven weeks. Yep, So
that's good.

Speaker 4 (01:12:05):
I think that's good for the Eagles. Get him healthy
for the playoffs. Honestly, he's been getting beat up all year.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Bro Lane, let him take You can not lose Lane, Yeah,
war can or not lose Lane Johnson.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
Let him off a little, get healthy.

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Go Birds. Man Chillen hurts, MVP clumps on it. Good
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Ten play college since twenty sixteen. Usually that would be
an excuse for players on why they're not good. He
just wins Super Bowls, National Championship.

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Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Chaotic weekend. Chaotic weekend. A lot of Heisman talk going around.
People were very pissed off about me not having Gunner
Stockton in the Heisman conversation. We got a guy who
you know, a dude coming after your boy saying I
don't like college football because I don't want I'm saying
that the College Baball Playoff is wasting spots with the

(01:13:57):
ACC and G five teams. We will get into that.
SEC Oklahoma's creating chaos Texas. We were this close to
maximum count. All Texas needed to do was lose by
a little. They didn't. They got their shit pushed in.
We'll cover all that stuff, but wild weekend of college football.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Let's start. Let's start with your social media. So people
are coming at you saying that you don't know or
like college football because the ACC and the G five
schools still deserve to be in this year.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Yeah, there is a gentleman it looks like he can't
even bench one thirty five. He can't even he can't
even have a plate on the bar, saying Will doesn't
like college football, And you know, I'm just we needed
to stop having these guys being the faces of sports
media and they just like helmets, they don't like the ball.
And I'm just thinking to myself, like what I want
the twelve best teams in the college football playoff.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
I wouldn't mind.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
If the G like the only team, like of the
G five coming out right now that could get in
is JMU. In my opinion, they lost to Louisville earlier
in the year. That's been their only loss. They've handled
their business on the rest of the schedule. If they
went out, Sure that one loss G five team can
come into the College wall playoffs. They're gonna get worked
in the first round, which I don't think anybody cares about.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Bring them in, see what happens though.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Yeah, but they're a one lost team. Who again, if
you're saying Louisville that's been their only lost by a
little sure, bring them in. But everybody else, bro, they've
gotten mopped by somebody like you look at North Texas
and I took some notes. I was coming down here
just to be ready. I got a little pad. North
Texas got waxed by South Florida by like thirty points.
Tulane lost to UTSA, Like that's all you need. They

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lost to UTSA.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Diniversity of Texas, San Antonio for those years, they don't
belong in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
They also lost to Ole Miss. They could argue, you know,
they can talk about Old Miss, but they lost to UTSA.
You're done, You're gone. Navy got killed by Notre Dame
recently got killed by them. They also lost to North Texas.
San Diego State. They lost thirty eight to six to Hawaii. Like,
these teams should not be in the College for spot,
not a football spot. Yeah, as one of the as

(01:15:50):
one of the you know, as one of the best twelve.
These teams should not be in the College Wable playoff.
Now JMU texs care business the rest of the year,
by all means they should get the you know, hey,
they had an all some season. This is a one
loss G five team. They can represent the G five
coming to the collegewall playoff. They are going to get mopped.
And then again, it's like the ACC I would have
loved to have seen, you know, these teams handle all

(01:16:11):
of their business and not without a shadow of doubt.
They're in Miami. Wanted to see them own the moment
they are in position. They'll be in position probably a
ten and two team against Notre Dame, who's going to
be a ten and two team, and you will have
that game to look at, like, hey, Miami beat them
head to head. I would not mind seeing Miami in
the College Will Playoff. But Georgia Tech, they're gonna get
their opportunity against a school who has a Shitlottle momentum

(01:16:32):
right now with Georgia, so we're gonna get to see
a game like that if they get mopped.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
No, I do not want to see Georgia Tech in
the Collegewoill playoff.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Virginia. What's Virginia's the one loss team? Oh wait, No,
they're a two loss team NC State and Wake Forest.
NC State is five and five and you lost to
Wake Forest. They're not that good in the ACC. So
those like having those two losses. I don't want to
see those teams in the College Forwow Will Playoff. I
do want to see I would I don't care like, look,
I'm more of a Big ten guy than I am SEC.

(01:17:01):
But the chaos is suing in the SEC right now.
If there's five two loss SEC teams, I want to
see them all in the College Bawll playoffs. Right there's
four two loss Big ten or five two lost Big
ten teams or who've lost two or less, I want
to see those teams in the playoffs. Cause and it's
not he was talking about college football elite and somebody
else was like, oh, I was just disappointed what they eat,
What ESPN and the College Football Commissioner Josh paid has

(01:17:22):
done to your brain. It's college football leadism at its finest. Like, yeah,
I want to see these conferences Big twelve. They're gonna
have Texas Tech potentially what it could be Utah, Houston BYU.
I wouldn't mind have seeing a couple of Big twelve
teams in. I want to see the teams where from
a recruiting level, these conferences have the advantage NIL budget
is way bigger. They have more money poured into these kids. Right,

(01:17:44):
they're high, higher ranked recruits. But I do not want
to see these teams in the ACC or the G five.
Who's gotten dummied by teams in their conferences who aren't
worth the shit.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Yeah, can I just real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Go ahead? I know I went on a little team.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
No, no, no, it's not gonna it's not gonna be very long.
We grew up in an era where the participation Trophy
started to become a thing when we were younger. Yes
or no? Yes, okay, what is that the move? Do
we believe that the participation Trophy should be given out
the kids just for you know, being a part of
the season. Yes you No. No. So if you're a
G five team and you have one loss, and this

(01:18:19):
is more a JMU than any of the those other schools,
you have to do something spectacular, a undefeated type of
season in my mind, to make it into the playoffs.
It might hurt and might not be what you want
to hear, but the landscape of college football and where
we live right now is so much different than it
was five years ago. We have teams where we have
fifty million dollars rosters taking place. All right, your team, JMU,

(01:18:43):
respect I love what you guys have been able to do.
It's amazing. What a feel good story that is to
put you in the playoffs. Is like putting that goat
on this on the stand with the Jurassic Park with
the t Rex that goes and all of a sudden
he gets his ass fucking murdered Like that is just
the reality of what is going to happen here. But
the ACC, there's a whole lot of conversation. I think

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they are one of the power for teams. You'd like
to see one of those teams make it in most
likely be Miami. They really shit down their leag especially
having two massive wins early in the year. But if
you're a G five team and you're upset, if you're
eleven to one and don't make the playoffs, it's not
about you. You have to go twelve and zero to
show that you can be competitive in this world. Now,
if JAMU makes it into the playoffs, they play that

(01:19:23):
first game, even if they don't win that game, but
they lose it by a field goal less than a
touchdown situation, then I will bend the knee and say, hey,
I was wrong on this take. However, you've got it, bro.
You've got to be twelve and zero and be dominating
these lesser than teams. If you think you're gonna walk
into SEC, Big ten, hell even the Big twelve country

(01:19:44):
and be able to play competitively against these guys. Yeah,
when it comes to the SEC chaos ensuing all of
those things, you said there's seven teams. Those teams need
to be in the playoffs, the Big ten. If everybody
it's ten and two or less, those teams need to
be in the playoffs. Those they are two best conferences.
Anybody us who doesn't sit there and they want to
bitch and can play in a moan. You had twelve
opportunities to show everybody what you could do. All right,

(01:20:05):
Not everyone's gonna be treated equally because these conferences are
not equal. Onward, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
You go back to the year when what was a
UCF with Scott Frost, when they went undefeated and they
still hung a banders. But if they go if that team, yeah,
they went undefeated, I would be screaming, Yeah, they deserve
a shot in the College War. Absolutely like they're undefeated.
They handled their business. And to the gentleman who says
I just like helmets, I love helmets, and I think
jmu has got a great helmet, I just don't you know, Again,

(01:20:32):
if they're a one loss by the way, great reference
on Jurassic Park, Like, right there, whoever comes out of
the G five, that's gonna be our clip. We're busting
with the boys drops a clip and it's gonna be
the goast slowly coming out of the ground. And what happens,
They're like Jami's low because any other team is not
worth the shit to be in the College Wable playoffs
out of the G five conferences.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Right, and if you're just putting one in, let's say
Jami drops another one. Dude, they should not even fucking
sniff one. They shouldn't even be on the bracket that
says first out. It's like, we gotta stop doing that.
Just put the twelve best teams in. These are the
twelve best teams. They deserve to be in. Onward.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
You know, people they're always going to do the first
ones out because they're like a little rage baity.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
Yeah, but first ones out shouldn't even be Jamis.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
We made the n I T bracket and they got
Nebraska first one out. Okay, they're trying to get me right.

Speaker 7 (01:21:17):
Arguably, James Assen's two hardest games are their final two
of conference play, which.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Is great, and if they mop them put them in.
They deserve they they do. I would say they deserve
to be because they got they got a two score
loss of Louisville. We're not going to talk about Louisville
be an average or a four loss ACC team. I'm
just going to give them a benefit of doubt and
say that was early in the season. They've handled their
business and mopped everybody. Go and throw them in for
dumbing Washington State and Coastal Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
I disagree. I think they've lost their opportunity with that
Lowville loss margin. Ferr is that much smaller when you're
G five team. That's just the ree hout.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Well, so let me ask you who you putting in.
If you go if Miami finishes ten and two and
another Dame finishes ten and two, who are you putting in?

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
The coach jmu is going to be out. So they're
both going to be in.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
I'm just saying, if there's one slot and it comes
down to.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Them, if I had to pick one, at this point,
it was gonna it's gonna be Notre Dame. Even though
Notre Dame lost to Notre Dame, they're they're they're trending
in the direction they're playing better football, they're dominating teams,
they're getting hot at the right time. You have to
be able to evaluate those things. JMU G five. That's
not even like, that's not a part of the conversation.

(01:22:22):
That's not even a thing. They're mopping these other teams.
There's smaller schools, they have less money, they have less
talented players. It's not a disrespectful thing. It's just the reality.
That is just the truth. Notre Dame is playing really
good football right now. CJ. Carr has developed. If Notre
Dame and Miami played tomorrow on a neutral field, I

(01:22:42):
would love to see what Fandel has to say about this.
I bet you Miami is six and a half point
favorites or sorry, Notre Dame is six and a half
point favorites Miami.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Yeah, So here's what I'll ask, because Miami just got
done beating the shit out of North Carolina State. Who
North Carolina State beat Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech is number
one in the a CEC right now, or them and
it's them in Virginia Georgia inc.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
State's record.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
I think you just five and five? Okay, but hang on,
So if we're going to give recency. You're beating the
best team in the a CC in Georgia Tech in
C State then gets absolutely stomped by Miami. Miami beatshim
forty one to seven. What if Miami dummies Virginia Tech
and dummies Pitt? Who Pit is ranked right now?

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
Pitt Pitt's Yeah, they're not ranked anymore. Yeah, they got
dummy by nother dame. I mean the the pit you're right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Right now? They Yeah, I guess these are rankings for
college wall playoffs. The rank just mop the floor with
a ranked But if say, say Miami does the same
thing to Virginia Tech and Pitt like forty one seven,
forty one ten, and they're sitting at ten and two,
putting up over one hundred and twenty in their last
three games, the talk about going on.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
That's the conversation. Yeah, that's because it's going to be
the back half of their schedule. They play USC, right,
Notre Dames look great, they play USC, right.

Speaker 6 (01:24:03):
That's their that's their only ranked win.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
There's are only ranked win. No, no, no, they beat Pitt
as well, so there's two ranked wins. Number well, hey, right,
ranks ranked? Right? Sure, rank is ranked?

Speaker 5 (01:24:15):
What if Georgia Tech, who's.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Who's Notre Dame half they just mobed pitt Syracuse and Stanford.

Speaker 5 (01:24:21):
If Georgia all had to hang your hat on that
wins out, they beat Georgia, they played my Or would
Miami be in the a SEC Championship game.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
I think it would be Georgia Tech in Virginia. That's
why Miami's kind of positioned in a spot where they
can finish ten and two with big time wins over
the last three weeks and then you'll be staring right
at Notre Dame in Miami.

Speaker 5 (01:24:39):
But what like Slet's say Georgia Tech wins out, beats Georgia,
goes to the ACC Championship game, loses to Virginia, and
they say it like, you have that marquee win on
your your schedule beating Georgia and you have that Georgia Tech.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
This is not wrong in the game. Rain is getting
so fucked up by this conversation right now. If you're
Miami and you do not make it to the a
SEC Championship, to me, that's a place where you're like, okay,
like we saw Miami kind of they fizzled. They lost
our opportunity there. Notre Dame's kind of done this. Regardless
of what Miami does in these next two weeks, it
goes Notre Dame in my mind, and that is one
of the benefits of being independent. You don't have to

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play a thirteenth game of the season.

Speaker 7 (01:25:17):
Can we talk about the other controversy surrounding Notre Dame
on social media? Where was it the pay coach that
basically said, if we lose to Notre Dame, I'm not
worried about it. That doesn't affect us in the conference.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Yeah, that was talked about in the locker room quite
a bit. Oh okay, okay, that was a oh yeah,
you went, you have to go do something. Yeah, that
was the only reason why I said Notre Dames covering
this game probably twice, Yeah, I said. I think I
said Notre Dame will score forty, pit will score less
than ten, and I think it was thirty five to fifteen,
So I was ten points off on that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
And just to go back to what mitches here, Virginia
is currently nine and two, so they'd be Virginia Tech
will be ten and two. Let's say they go to
the ACC Championship. Georgia Tech is eleven and one in
the a c C Championship with a win over Georgia,
arguably the best Georgia House states, the best team, but
arguably like the best team playing in the SEC. They

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play in Athens.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
No, I've had they play in Atlanta.

Speaker 5 (01:26:14):
It's a neutral site.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
It's always a neutral site.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
But let's you say Georgia Tech beats takes down Georgia.
Georgia Tech goes into the a CEC Championship against a
ten and two Virginia team. Virginia beats Georgia Tech. Now
Georgia Tech's eleven and two, Virginia is eleven and two
in Miami is ten and two. This is potential. Again,
I am pro chaos, so I would love the chaos
to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Right and we're just having a we're having a brainstorm,
we're having a think tank right now. My thought in
that is, if you're Georgia Tech and you beat Georgia
at a neutral site, regardless it's in Atlanta, So it's like, really,
you know, I think that game holds the most way
out of everything else. It takes place in the a SEC.
If you lose the AC Championship. The committee has already said,

(01:26:57):
we don't hold a lot of value in the ACC.
I think if you're Georgia Tech and you're eleven than
one and you beat Georgia, you're in. You're in, and
you you can you hold that win over Georgia and
point out what Georgia just did to Texas, how well
they played this year, who they've had to play and
beat as clear, like Georgia Tech here is like here's
our ticket to the chocolate factory right there. Yeah, And

(01:27:17):
and Miami is out.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
Miami's out. But Virginia and both Virginia Tech are in.

Speaker 5 (01:27:23):
Virginia.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Oh my fault. Georgia Tech, Georgia Tech and Virginia are
in because Virginia wins the a CEC Championship.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
But are you already in if you win the a
C Championship?

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
Yeah? Yeah, it's an auto bit.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
That's the chaos, right, the chaos. So then Notre Dame.
They are they now getting pushed because of those two.
You have to be right, that would because Georgia Tech
and Virginia.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
The way I'm talking about the Big ten, the SEC
even the the you know, Big twelve's kind of playing
itself out. But the way I'm talking about these three
conferences and dumbing the A C C and G five.
I would be so paid off at Georgia at the
Bulldogs for losing that game against Georgia Tech. You know
what I mean. It's like because if that chaos happens,
it's like, yeah, Virginia Tech and Georgia Tech, like they
gotta both be in. Georgia Tech beat Georgia keep.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Saying Virginia Tech, you mean.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
Sorry, sorry, sorry, you're good. Virginia and Georgia Tech they
do have to be in because Georgia Tech beat a
team with a shitloadle momentum Right now coming out of
the A C C play with in Georgia.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
And Georgia will be ranked what four, maybe maybe three?
After what A and M did. Huh Georgia bro rivalries
are so weird.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
I think so too, JP. And again that's why I
would be so pissed off at Georgia. Georgia Tech happens
to get that win. It happens to get that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:42):
Could Georgia miss the playoff if they lose to Georgia
Tech and then Georgia Tech loses the ACC championship, showing
that I A two loss Georgia shouldn't be in the
playoff as well, they could.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
But I mean, you're gonna have what's gonna happen is
a couple of these two loss SEC teams are going
to be out and they'll all have beaten somebody or
a common opponent or each other. So it's gonna be
nothing but which we love chaos, chaos.

Speaker 6 (01:29:06):
But then that's when you would have to argue, Okay,
is it two lost Georgia team or whatever it would
be for them worse than some of these other teams
that you're talking about might get in.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
No, not at all.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
Because also, well I know I like a massive homer here,
but we're looking at Michigan if they beat Ohio State,
like they're in.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
Where where do you?

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
What is your like? They are they are in? Yeah, No,
you're right, And so now you've got this eleven twelve
missions gonna just like how'd you guys here? Were like,
we don't fucking know. You guys got here too, Like,
holy shit, we're in this thing and now you've got
these SEC teams are two lost teams getting marked and
Missigans was like fuck, yeah, we're in.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Well how do you feel because right now in the
Big ten you got Ohio State Indiana, Yep, their chances
are pretty much locked. Then you got Oregon USC, which
organ and USC play this weekend of implications on the game.
If USC wins, now Oregon's a two lost Big Ten team.
And then you got Michigan sent at eight and two.
Were you feeling as far as you know, how how

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confident you feel about beating Ohio State?

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
I mean, buddy, like very confident. Like if you if
you look at our team last year to this year,
like we're light years ahead of where we were last year.
This time we were five hundred, we were five hundred
and end of the season seven and five, and we
had zero pass game. And people want to you know,
Bryce Underwood had himself a two series. He had a

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game where it was like, Okay, that's a freshman, that's
a rookie.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
But if you just look at the stat line, you're
looking at Bryce being like, oh this kid, he really
shit the bed. Dude, you're if you're a Michigan fan
watching that game. The first half that we should have
we should have had a touchdown, a call back for
a holding, we should have made a field goal, could
have should have would us We'll just throw out the window.
Bryce was throwing the ball very well. He was making decisions,
being decisive. When he got into his self a pinch,

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people recovered he was running for downs, like played very
very well. Our offense like very very balanced. At no
point last year did you watch the Michie Wolverens go
there's a balance football club right there. Like our defense
only give up points to Northwestern because our offense shot
ourselves in the foot, like we had a snap exchange issue.
We had a punt By the way, did you guys

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see this punt return fumble? Homage Morgan and I tweeted
it out earlier. Dude, I feel so bad for this kid.
Love his mentality, love the love the individual his It
just he's got the gipps. It hasn't gone his way.
He muffs a punt he and then he falls on
the ball. There's a big scrum to see wo's gonna
get it? It turns out Samage Morgan comes out, he
has the ball in his hand. But this, and I'm

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just pointing out, this is a woman referee. She's a female,
So you guys can see the line that'd be like, oh,
that's the what if I'm gonna say somebody I'm gonna
point out based on things right, It has nothing to
do with her being a woman. It's the fact that, hey,
she's a woman. So you guys see her. She comes
in before you can even tell what's going on, she
starts pointing Northwestern right away. They showed the replay homage,
drops the punt on the twenty yard line, drops the punt,

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lands on the punt, and then shows up with the punt,
and it's like, what are we doing here? But because
the call was on the field was Northwestern ball, they
end up getting that. They walked away with that with
three points. So our defense is playing at a very
elite level. Go back to the question Ohio State and Michigan.
I believe Michigan is so much better than we were

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last year. Ohio State, I think is more more well
rounded and more complete than they were last year. But
they're not as explosive, they're not as scary on the
out side of the ball. You guys se jeremih Smith
walking around. He looks like me right now, walking around
with this boot on my foot. He is hobbling. He's hurt.
Cardinell Tate, he was hurt a little bit they're getting
a little beat up. I feel more confident than I

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ever have about this game going into the last week
in November.

Speaker 2 (01:32:53):
I respect it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
I mean, and it's like last year I sat there
and I was like, hey, we're gonna win. We're gonna win,
and it's like you got the home where you got
the biased after last year being twenty and half point underdogs.
Like I'm sitting here telling you this, Hey, we're gonna
win the game, and a lot of you guys are
like probably four in a row, and we beat them
at home without a passing game. It's like, here's here's

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where Ohio State can beat us. Brian Hartline, Brian Brian Hartline.
If he doesn't listen to Ryan Day, hold on, if
he doesn't listen to Ryan Day and play this we're
tougher than you ball, which they tried to do last year.
That's when things can get very dicey for the Michigan Wolverines.
That being said, man, we are a way better ball
called than were last year. Like I do like day

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and night better.

Speaker 6 (01:33:38):
Does Matt Patricia make you a little more nervous this year?

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
Here's what Here's where it doesn't Here's what it doesn't, dude,
Just like are like, how do you beat a great defense?
Run the ball? Like, run the ball downhill. You have
six freshmen starting on the Michigan offense. Six freshmen. One's
a wide receiver who had one hundred and eighty six
yards receiving last week. One's our quarterback. Three of them
are on the offensive line. Three of them like like

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and buddy, they are just getting better. We give three
sacks in this game. One was a coverag shack. Two
of them were. They ran this what we called the
NFL past thirteen pop. It's where you gap scheme the
tackle on the right side. He's one on one, but
the guard pulls and they brought pressure into it. Like,
they schemed that play better than we did. We ran
that play twice. They brought guys down. So to me,

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it's like, that's not on the offensive line. That's a hey,
we're moving chess moves. They happen to call better play
than we did. This offensive line is playing so much better.
And our defense, Bro, here's here's where Northwestern was very close,
and Northwestern is a hell of a ball club. That
are our defense. We sat a bunch of guys like
you look at Jayshon Barram, he probably played fifteen snaps

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more probably played thirty snaps. They really need to start
playing the game a lot until it was like getting
really really close. But even then, like we have two
linebackers that are out, I think one kind of was
sparingly jumping snaps. Like we had a lot of guys
not playing because we overlooked this team a little bit.
Still end up with a double five turnovers and still
won the game. Like it's just we're cockroaches, Bro, We're

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the cockroaches the Big ten.

Speaker 6 (01:35:07):
Yeah, are you potentially overlooking going to Maryland?

Speaker 1 (01:35:10):
Dude? Here's the thing I and I said this in
twenty three, this is gonna be the hardest game of
the year. This is the hardest Northwestern, no doubt, Hey, bro,
no fucking doubt. Yeah, Perdue, you watch that game, You're
like you're never really feeling like, Okay, they're gonna take over.
Its just it's a lot closer than it should be
with with no Northwestern. Like they were up and we

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had to go like put a drive together and buddy
Bryce had a throw on third and ten to Andrew
marsh right in the bucket. Dude, on the sideline marsh
was an NFL catch.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
It was gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
Walk on freshman after Jordan Marshall goes down with the
shoulder walk on freshmen bullying guys. As the line of
scrimmage is moving, it's like, yeah, there's a lot of
things to look at that and be like, holy shit,
we should be nervous. But there's a lot of things
like you look at me, Like most teams lose a game,
you have five turnovers, most team with a freshman quarterback.
We didn't. And it's like this Maryland, hopefully you get

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so much of a scare from Northwestern. You go to
Maryland this week and it's a completely different team. I
expect it not to be expected to be a one
score game. Don't even know what the line is. It's
gonna be a one score game. It's gonna be tight,
it's gonna be I'll be shipped myself the whole time.
It's ten and a half Maryland plus ten and a half.
That's the play of the week. It's not I it's
just going to be scary. And then we hammer Michigan

(01:36:25):
money line the week following hammer boys responsibly.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
I love seeing the psyche. It's like I got to
I get to watch myself talking about Nebraska because I
can see it. I like what I just said. I'm
like witnessing. I think it's fascinating, the compartmentalizing of not
thinking about the product that's been on the field with
with tight games with Purdue, with Michigan State, with Northwestern

(01:36:52):
probably gonna be Maryland, and it's like Maryland, and in
your brain it's we're so much better because we can
throw the ball this year against Ohio State, and just
for that reason alone, we're a better team. Like I
feel as confident as ever.

Speaker 1 (01:37:04):
We're a better football team for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
Again, I respect it because I'm sitting there. It's like
you think, with all these freshmen you got, and you're like,
run the football. It's like you're on your third string
running back.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
No, No, Jordan Marshall, he'll be fine. Sean already said
he'll be good, and there's a rumor he is. Justice
Hayes will be back for the holl State game. It's
light right now.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
And just to touch on Matt Patricia, I think when
everybody talks about Ohio State, hasn't a tested you know,
Dani Orlowski's like, let's see what they're like if a
game is close to the fourth quarter. Like Matt Patricia,
this this acquisition in the offseason of him being the
defensive coordinator for Ohio State has been the absolute X factor,
Like this is the best defense in the country. Like, yeah,
I'm with you on you know, when are we going

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to see like you know when they do when Ohio
State does get challenged, what are they going to be like?
But this defense is legit, bro, they challenge when Matt
Patricia's the That's what That's what I'm saying, Like we
might have Yeah, you could have a close game, but
what offense. Like Georgia's got a great offense, it's coming
right now. Alabama's a little too one dimensional. We'll get
to see them against Indiana in the Big Ten Championship.

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We might not.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
It might be Michigan if when, if Michigan beats Ohio State,
we will be in the Big Ten champions But that's in.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
This hypothetical world. If Ohio State is playing Indiana in
the Big Ten Championship, we'll.

Speaker 1 (01:38:23):
Get this one loss in the uh in the in
the Big Ten, we have one loss in the Big Ten.
If we beat Ohio State, we have a tiebreaker over
how state we're in.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
Yeah, that'll be Couer and bro.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
But the big the championship, like like all that shit, Dude,
as bad as we played and it's not. It's not overlooking.
Like I think so many people, so many fans are
gonna look at Michigan that are fans of Michigan and
be like or this or that, Look how bad this is?
Look how bad that. It's like, dude, if you watch
the game of Northwestern, there's so many things to be like,

(01:38:54):
really proud of the turnovers. Suck, Like you're gonna get
your ass beat against a really good football team when
you have five turn Northwestern's a good ball club. You
said it, anyone who watches the Big ten nos. You
got to earn your stripes. And we had multiple turnovers
on the wrong side of the fifty, and we our
defense stood up in a big, big way, stood up
in a big way. Bryce is putting touch on the football.

(01:39:15):
He's scanning the field better, so he threw for the
most yards. Like those two picks one freshman mistake. The
other one was ego like they're doing this RPO and
they're reading the safety and the safety was so quick
to get in the box. This Fitzgerald cat, which, by
the way, Northwestern always is like a fit something on
their team. Uh. He goes, takes two steps down, obvious
should have been a give. He throws the ball right

(01:39:36):
into the lap of Fitzgerald and it's like it's the
first throw he had since the first pick.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
Go go Big Ten Championship. Huh go if you if
you guys are playing in Indiana, what happens to do
you think you have to win the Big Ten Championship
to get in the coagewo A playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:39:49):
I think the.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
Committee's already shown. First off, I think we've beaten Indiana.
But I think let me tell you this, let me
say this, you can't if Michigan beach Aha State you
if you're in it, you can't count on Michigan. Like
Indian is a damn good ball club. You gotta respect.
You got to turn that into an Iowa game that
Indiana had against Iowa and where I believe we are
a better football team than Iowa because we can throw
the ball a little better. But when it comes to

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the Big Ten Championship, you beat Ohouse State, the number
one team in the country. The team that's been the
number one team in the country since Week two. You're in
and the committee is already said, we don't put a lot.
We don't put we put hardly anyway in championship games.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
So it would be some chaos right there. Yeah, three
these things happen. You got nine to three Michigan. The
accoure talking about, oh yeah, my fault ten and three.

Speaker 4 (01:40:35):
Would a two loss Notre Dame be out over a
three lost Michigan who beat Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
But it's like that's.

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
Regularlybody in the college football world buckle up, because honestly,
I want to see this go down just to see
I just want to see anarchy.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
Dude, I'm telling it. And also Indiana, like they haven't
really seen in defense like Michigan's. There. There was slow,
slow first half against Wisconsin. The wea for that they
had to go to a game when he drive to
be the Penn State team.

Speaker 5 (01:41:04):
I just think it's funny because this is literally Will
whenever he talks about Nebraska, but hey, hey, there to.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
Tell you they haven't seen a defense like Nebraska.

Speaker 5 (01:41:12):
The delusion is just there.

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
Okay, maybe I will maybe I'll talk, you know, I
understand like the delusion that we kind of see will
go through. But like, have I said anything that's like no.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
Ah, some yeah, what absolutely what Michigan Like, you guys
are a two lost team, but it's not like you're like, oh,
this is a two loss team that is dangerous.

Speaker 5 (01:41:32):
Right, You're not like it. You're yes, you're a two
loss team, but you're not like a two loss team
like Alabama.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
Okay, do you think we could be like like Bryce
is what eleven touchdown, seven interceptions?

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
Oh, you must forget that. Peyton Manning Tennessee. His first
year starting, he threw eleven hundred yards and six touch.

Speaker 5 (01:41:47):
You're not going to sit here compare Bryce Underwood to
Payton he just did.

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
He's having a better freshman year than Peyton Manning did. Yeah,
but OK, but I'm just saying the next year, Peyton
Manning here for thirty five hundred yards and almost thirty touchdowns.
I'm just saying, like, are the freshman years? Are already
looked it up?

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
No, no, I was.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
I'm not looking at that up. I wasn't looking at
I need to google it. I already did last night,
looked up Cam Newton starting. I was like, well, I
can't bear those looked up And I was like, guy,
you know from that, I thought I was like, maybe
Payton Maning because I know he's had like tough starts,
like his rookie season looked up. I think he threw
like eleven and eighty five yards actually put pull it up,
suret and pull it up. And I was like, oh, bro,

(01:42:28):
like Brice Underwood is having a better year his freshman
season than Peyton Manning did his freshman season. But it's
the the saying of Indian that's rookie season. That's rookie season.
You go freshman year against Tennessee, but you're also Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
Time out, time out. But you're also saying they haven't
seen a defense like Michigan's, Like Michigan's not like like
you guys aren't like some top ten defense.

Speaker 5 (01:42:51):
Probably defense is pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
Our defense is really fucking good.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
I mean they gave up what twenty four to Oklahoma,
twenty seven in Nebraska, twenty to Michigan State, twenty two
to Northwestern, thirty one to USC.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
Listen, this is where this is where the guy's tweet
talking about you not like the ball doesn't really love ball.
It's like you're looking at scores, and there's been times
that Michigan's offense has put the defense in positions that
get Michigan State twenty points. That by the way, Michigan,
Michigan State scored a touchdown as we pulled all of
our starters with four seconds left in the left in

(01:43:26):
the game. Our turnovers, we had multiple turnovers in the
red zone, and Purdue took advantage of that. No through
five turnovers, five turnovers, three of which were in the
red zone for four Northwestern and held them the three
points every time on that. So in your mind, they
are a great defense, and you can't really judge. You
think I was great defense. Yeah, but you can't judge

(01:43:50):
Michigan's defense until post USC because there's a massive change.
Before USC. Listen to me, bro, listen to me. Listen
to me. Before you USC, we were blitzing the most
in all of college football, over fifty percent, the most
in college football. Since USC, we've been like a twenty
five percent blitz team, and our defense has been so

(01:44:11):
much better, so much better. Like statistically, if you were
to take that chuck of games, we're the best. We're
probably the best in the country, probably the best in
the country. Oh, here it is Peyton Manning. Eleven games played,
sixty one percent completion, eleven and forty one yards, eleven
tds and six interceptions and forty four times. I don't ask, dude,

(01:44:36):
We're going off of stats. Peyton Manning is having a
worse season than Bryce Underwood. Their freshman year is worse. Sorry,
Bryce Underwood is having a better season than Peyton Manning's
nineteen ninety four freshman season.

Speaker 5 (01:44:49):
I wonder how many.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
Peyton Manning friend of the show?

Speaker 5 (01:44:52):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:52):
We all know, we all know Peyton Manning what he's
been able to do. Like, could you imagine if we
go get this Cam Coleman kid from Auburn, or go
get another wide receiver with Andrew marsh next year with
an offensive line that has a full year of experience.
All these guys are sophomores. Dude, there is so much
to be excited about when it comes to Michigan. So much.

(01:45:13):
Got to win this week. You have to win this week.
You have to win this week season. But I'm just
telling you, but like, and then we get in the playoffs.
Who knows playoffs?

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
JP South Carolina Man thirty to three at halftime. You
goat coach Beamer hype in the crowd. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
I texted JP in the third right when and then
went up.

Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
Yeah, fourth quarter with like eleven minutes and it was.

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
Like thirty one third. It was like right when they
came back, and I said, hey, I'm really sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:45:42):
Text me back left eleven minutes left in the game.

Speaker 1 (01:45:45):
It was thirty one thirty right, yeah, And so I
texted that I'm really sorry. There's a lot of time left.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
And I looked at it and I just, oh, that's
barbaric to send a message.

Speaker 1 (01:45:54):
Like that, buddy. I mean, the momentum is crazy, like there,
Yeahnutes apologizes for what I did. I still in the
middle of the.

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
Bullets flying, but it's I wish you could see my
my I message because the whole game is just like
a million of my friends sending me the imoji they're
talking about man, y'all are looking great, like y'all really
did it, and I'm just keep putting down. I didn't
respond to a single one of them, Like this game
is so far from over, and I hate being on

(01:46:22):
the side of history of what was the record, oh
in two hundred and eighty six.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
Like since two thousand and five. Right in the SEC
games where a team has had the lead of twenty
seven or more points, the record for the SEC team
is two hundred and eighty plus.

Speaker 3 (01:46:36):
Yeah, I know, I know what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
I know it is.

Speaker 3 (01:46:41):
So then when I tell it's four, when I tell people,
you don't know pain like I know pain, that's what
I'm talking about. Yeah, that's because it's one. It's one,
and I'm the one, and I have to live with
that the rest of my life.

Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
Keith McCall on a tear talk said Will nineteen ninety seven,
Jack nineteen ninety eight. J never which guy on the
bus has experienced the most heartbreak from college football fandom?

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
Hashtag yeah JP without question.

Speaker 3 (01:47:09):
The penny never saw a South Carolina national championship. The
penny has now been discontinued.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
Since Wednesday of last week.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
Abraham Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln is on the penny. Yeah, I
might come back. But what I hate, I mean, there's
no like defending any of it. It sucks you. We
gave up the biggest lead whatever. I just hate all
of the aftermath of people starting to compare Beamer to Muschamp.
We're talking right before It's ridiculous. You cannot compare any

(01:47:40):
coach pre nil Era to nil Era at a school
like South Carolina, plus inheriting the program that Beamer inherited.
He took a three and nine team. I know must
Champ didn't have the greatest hand either, but when you
go nil Era inherit three and nine team that lost
the citadel in ap State and then you come back

(01:48:00):
and we're having a tough year right now, but you
cannot compare them to Will mus Champ. I'm a foxhole guy.
I will remain in the foxhole. People next to me
will change, but I will remain.

Speaker 1 (01:48:11):
Not the think about the foxhole.

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
You can come and go, though, No, not this foxhole.

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
Foxhole and listen is now the Nebraska foxhole.

Speaker 3 (01:48:16):
Right for me, It's like coaches are in my foxhole
with me. Will muss Champ I was in there with them,
Unfortunately they took him out. Shane Biemer is in my
foxhole with me. So I'm going to put my life
on the line for him every single week, and I
would be happy doing it because that's what the foxhole is.
And I just hate the loser mentality. It's the easy
way out is to complain about everything going on, and

(01:48:39):
I don't want the easy way out. I want the
hard way out.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
And I told Garrett, when.

Speaker 3 (01:48:44):
This championship comes, God, I hope I'm alive for it.
I promise you I will be the most insufferable fan
of all time. And I won't feel bad for any
week of that college football season because I've earned it,
because nobody's been through what I've been through. And when
I'm sitting up at the top of that hill, I'm

(01:49:05):
gonna be looking down on everybody as if they are
pieces of scum for three hundred and sixty five days.
And so I'm looking forward to that day already today.
If this tells you anything about me, I've just been
now going back and forth with the guy that used
to be the captain of Clemson football team back in
some of their better days, and I'm have begun my

(01:49:26):
trash talk. Yeah, like this is what we're just what
we're dealing with.

Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
But yeah, no, that was a brutal Yeah, that was brutal.
Not only that you got the Mall Cup from Texas
A and m shoulder and both your guys should have.

Speaker 3 (01:49:39):
Stopped the game there. Our guys probably didn't feel safe.

Speaker 1 (01:49:42):
Hey, that was insane, insane insane double elbows out too,
like very intentional.

Speaker 3 (01:49:48):
And nothing led up to it before. Like if anything,
Nick Carver is running towards the tunnel and the yell
leader like slaps the ball, tries to slap the ball
out of his eyes. I saw so I had mean
that was unacceptable.

Speaker 2 (01:50:01):
I'm glad they handled that too, like as the games
continue going on and really relieved of his game day duties.

Speaker 1 (01:50:06):
Which sucks, man, I mean that mistake he made. I'm
sure he's the biggest he's got to be one of
the biggest an M fans out there. Yeah, but it
is just something so dumb because he can't control what's
bro Yeah, exactly, like what are we doing right? You're
a police officer.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
Dude's drunk with power with the badge. He needs to
be relieved of.

Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
His professional duties, you guys. I mean, if he's reacting
like that, if you're that emotional over the football game,
which I get, like we can all be emotional after
our teams or when they're losing or whatever, but you're
a police officer who is on duty, there's an expectation,
Like all the negative talk about police officers. It's like, buddy,
you're You're now an example someone can put out there

(01:50:50):
and be like, this is why police X Y and.

Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
Z Ryan Clark got in there.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
Oh I bet I bet he did.

Speaker 6 (01:50:56):
He point He clearly knew who he was pointing at too.
Like if anything, twenty seven tries to get out of
the way. That's the elbow he throws. He doesn't really
do anything to Nick Harber, but turns around and it's like, yeah,
hopefully Nick just was like I'm walking by the way.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
I would love to see him get downgraded the mole
cop or like cleaning toilets or just doing the.

Speaker 3 (01:51:18):
Ball Blart exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
That touchdown though, and same bro The acceleration of Nick
car watching Nick Harber run is one of the more
beautiful things.

Speaker 3 (01:51:28):
He's watching secretariat, seeing these little guys chase him too.

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
That should clearly be faster than him. He's pulling away.
It's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
He gets just as.

Speaker 3 (01:51:38):
He's moving so fast. But I'm watching him in slow motion.

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
I'm just like, he'll be fascinating as like a draft pick,
like how scouts have him and everything else. Look at him,
bro fly, that's a crazy picture.

Speaker 1 (01:51:53):
Crazy so completely has he even got the ball tug
who cares I can catch it him? But yeah, man,
little guys.

Speaker 3 (01:52:02):
Yeah he made an insane special teams play, which how
ultimately didn't matter.

Speaker 6 (01:52:08):
But the fastest Yeah, twice your size and coming at.

Speaker 1 (01:52:13):
You and you're looking up, Oh my god, night night. Yeah, heartbreak.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
But SEC, man, Look, I'm not saying A and M's
I'm not saying A and M's frauds at all, but
I am saying in the tier that they're at, there
on like a fraud watch because they'll play Texas. Texas
will be the hardest SEC team they faced all year
again the SEC Championship, Like, I would not be surprised

(01:52:40):
if they lose their last three games Texas SEC Championship
and one and done in the playoffs. I think they're
I look, I think they're a good team. I'm just
they've had so many close games with the bottom half.
Like if you look at their schedule, they've played all
the bottom half.

Speaker 6 (01:52:56):
Their best win is Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
Right, gotten Notre Dame by one early in the season.

Speaker 1 (01:53:01):
Yea, And they actually shouldn't have beat Notre Dame like
that fourth and whatever. The last play of that game,
there was a clear holding call taking place by the
left guard.

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
But again, they're undefeated right now. They've they've honestly, they've
had a heavy year. Marcel Reid had had a Heisman
moment that second half of that South Carolina game. First
half what he throw for three picks? But to come
back from that deficit to be undefeated in the SEC.
Is you know again you don't apologize for your schedule.
I'm just saying, like, what like watching watching the games

(01:53:32):
across the board, if somebody could you know, a couple
of weeks ago, people are arguing about A and M.
They should be the number one team in the country.
Oh yeah, Garrett was on here last week. I'm a
them in Ohio State. Uh, and again they're in the.

Speaker 1 (01:53:46):
Arguably, well, I can't agree until obviously that last week
when when Michigan wins Ohio State's game dropped a five
Michigan B twelve eleven. I mean, I'm just saying, I
beted Ohio State has not been tested. Nobody get tested.
A couple of weeks dude, we just got to beat Maryland.

(01:54:06):
We just got to beat Maryland.

Speaker 2 (01:54:08):
It's all about the turps right now.

Speaker 1 (01:54:09):
It's everything. What time is that we're streaming this weekend?
Correct game? Is it eleven? So we're streaming. We're streaming
misterus Maryland US.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
The organ is going to be a huge game too.

Speaker 1 (01:54:20):
Where's that game at Skydocs. Let's do a couple of
tier talk before we get out of here. We got
Zane Dingo at p w d z k if TJ
latif beats Penn State Inhappy Valley and Iowa and Lincoln.
Do we Husker fans have a conversation on our hands?

(01:54:44):
Hashtag tear talk? I would say ask me that next week.
Oh you until there's something.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
That you's something to talk about, there's nothing to be said.

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
I'm glad you went back to that. Yeah, I'm glad
you went back to that. What we got here with you?

Speaker 2 (01:55:00):
Hey, we're double digit underdogs right now at Happy Valley.
Bad week to be a Niitney lion.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
Bad week. They started giving themselves a little excitement because
they took Indiana.

Speaker 2 (01:55:13):
Double digit. I think when I checked last night on
fandel it was ten and a half, ten and a
half point underdogs coming out of a bye two coming
off a bye We'll find out we got another one
from a chinook seedy sunflower shout out those sunflower seats.
If you were an a D how would you go
about handling a possible coaching change situation meaning he's on

(01:55:34):
the hot seat going into the year and we're four
games in and it's obviously not working. What you're playing
hashtag to your talk. I'm more of let the coaches
finish out the year.

Speaker 1 (01:55:44):
I was not at the beginning of the year seeing
all the chaos. I now agree. I think your four
games in the season, you're not firing him. Say, man,
you just keep doing your thing, We'll see if it works.
Blahlah blah. But you're on the phones and you're dialing
in your next guy. You've got a dialom in. Yeah,
because you want to keep You want to fire head
coach and the new head coach be within seventy two hours.

(01:56:05):
Because you got to worry about uh, transfer portals, scout
like your your the kids coming in from high school, recruiting,
like all that's so important. You need to be have
everybody aligned. Hey, this is good, And before these kids
can even blink, it's like we got a new one
and he's great. Look how awesome he is. So you
don't let these kids all you know, decommitting all those things.

Speaker 2 (01:56:26):
Yeah, I guess recruiting would be the big situation there
because if you fire early, that's depending on the recruiting
staff and everything else going to the next year, you'd
fire and then get to recruiting and keeping your guys there.

Speaker 3 (01:56:38):
And on that topic, that's why we have got to
keep Shane Beemer for another year, because if we let
him go, we lose all these recruits we have coming
in and it sets us back so much farther. If
anybody's curious where I stand on it, that's where I
stand on Ye.

Speaker 1 (01:56:52):
Keep Shane Biemer's.

Speaker 3 (01:56:56):
But where you guys gonna go and Shane, we're gonna
be looking at where we're gonna go top the hill
to look down on everybody next year. Gone, oh yeah,
nowhere me fire s Beemer.

Speaker 2 (01:57:08):
Now you end up with me.

Speaker 3 (01:57:10):
And Beamer.

Speaker 1 (01:57:15):
All right, boys, we feel good? Uh, ge real quick,
give us a Bama.

Speaker 2 (01:57:20):
Yeah, it's tough.

Speaker 1 (01:57:21):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:57:21):
You talked about turn the ball over five times against
Northwestern and still getting the win. That's a tough one
to lose.

Speaker 5 (01:57:31):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:57:31):
If you look at the stat sheet, it looks like
we absolutely destroyed them. Aside from the turnovers, and points
that they came out with. They only had a true
six points. So our defense is humming right now.

Speaker 1 (01:57:47):
People will look at the box scoring ball. Alabama's defense failed,
but not so fast.

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
No, even on team stats. He's saying like they like double.
We doubled them and they doubled their stats.

Speaker 1 (01:57:58):
I'm kind of going back to when people put up
schedules and say, right, defense is playing one.

Speaker 6 (01:58:05):
You know, no, like not taking anything away from Oklahoma,
Like they house to pick six. That's an awesome play
if you're a defense. They had a great punt return,
like immediately in the game, we could have tackled him
right there. The guy made a great play and got
him down there. We held him to three. That's when
I was like, Okay, we're gonna be in one, but
our defense is showing up. The one that I'm most

(01:58:27):
disappointed in turnover wise, is we stopped them. We take
momentum away from them, We almost get a pick ourselves,
stop them. They punt the ball and then we fumble
the punt and Ryan Williams hasn't returned a punt all
year until this week.

Speaker 3 (01:58:45):
So that's pretty frustrating.

Speaker 6 (01:58:46):
When a guy that you would consider a hand specialist
loses the football, but he made good plays later in
the game when we needed it downfield. You know, you
hope that you taste your blood one more time and
then it's just go time from here. You hate that, Uh,
you have to go to Jordan Hare, the most cursed
place on the planet, and it's a must win.

Speaker 3 (01:59:10):
So but you know, it's it's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:59:13):
When Yeah, Oklahoma's made it interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:59:15):
There are two lost team and it's it's tough because
at the beginning of the season, John Matterira was a
Heisman favorite, Oklahoma's defense. Everyone's talking about Oklahoma, Oklahoma, how
the season's gone. They've they've done the wave as much
as anybody. And so to lose a game the way
we lost it to a team that is a good
football team, it sucks. And I mean you said it

(01:59:37):
like you got to wake up and we didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
Wait, we.

Speaker 6 (01:59:41):
We didn't wake up, and we played good enough to
win that game and it just didn't go our way.
But Eastern Illinois, whoever the fuck we play this week,
I'm sorry you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:59:51):
Still you guys still got the rivalry game with Auburn. Yeah, Oklahoma,
it's not it's not easy. The rest of the way,
they got Miszoo. They got misso already coming off a
three hundred game on the ground, throughound your game on
the ground.

Speaker 6 (02:00:03):
Yeah, it is tough though, because our defense plays so well,
and at the beginning of the season it was all
the defense is struggling, the offense is good, and at
some point along the way it's leveled out, and now
the defense is what's really winning us these games.

Speaker 2 (02:00:22):
I do wish.

Speaker 3 (02:00:23):
I think that we have one of the best two.

Speaker 6 (02:00:26):
Minute offenses in the country.

Speaker 2 (02:00:28):
You guys are great through the area. You guys just
can't run the ball that well, which is crazy as
that we kind of ran the ball fairly well. Yeah,
like in a weird way.

Speaker 6 (02:00:36):
We ran the ball well. But that last drive you have,
like almost five minutes left, we took a long ass
time to cross midfield and then stalled out. I would
have liked to see us march down the field and
let the defense win you the football game. They've shut
them down. They again, they had more possessions inside the

(02:00:58):
thirty and came away with points. Then when we truly
kicked them the ball, they only got six points and
one of them was a good punt return. So it's like,
go put the defense on the field and win you
the football game. But yeah, you know what it happens. Now,
you gotta go win and uh just get in. It's
weird that if we win in Auburn, there's a chance

(02:01:20):
we still make the SEC championship game. But if you
lose the SEC championship game, are you penalized?

Speaker 1 (02:01:25):
And then not?

Speaker 2 (02:01:26):
Right, you could be a three loss Yeah, a three
loss team because again the chaos we're looking at. You
got A and M who's undefeated, Georgia who's one.

Speaker 3 (02:01:33):
Loss, Right, are also sleeping on Old Miss?

Speaker 6 (02:01:35):
Who's the one loss team?

Speaker 2 (02:01:36):
Yeah, you got Ole Miss. Then you got the two
loss SEC teams is Bama and Oklahoma. Oklahoma who's won
at Bama? Oklahoma who's won at Tennessee. And then you
also got Vanderbilt. They finish up the rest of your
beat Tennessee. They're a two loss SEC team. Yeah, it's weird.
So that's six teams right there. I don't know if
he was doing that, but that's.

Speaker 1 (02:01:57):
On the disk and wishing my foot would feel better
before you out of here.

Speaker 6 (02:02:00):
I don't know if it's a long thing, but can
someone explain the tie that they have at six in
the ranking.

Speaker 2 (02:02:07):
No clue, I don't be on.

Speaker 1 (02:02:08):
My BIG's a that's a josh big question.

Speaker 6 (02:02:10):
Yeah, yeah, we'll ask him right, it's it's in numerical order. Yeah,
we didn't make that up, but it does truly just
go six.

Speaker 2 (02:02:21):
Yeah, it's gonna be nuts, man. I can't work for it.

Speaker 1 (02:02:24):
It's time after works.

Speaker 2 (02:02:26):
Sounds like we got a wrap, got a wrap, Thank
you guys, Big cugs, tiny kisses. Hell of a week
coming up. We get the locker room for the dads,
inside the bus, all things streaming on Saturday, streaming on
Thursday night, all the bus with the boys stuff, big kugs,
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